New PREDATOR Movie in the works from 10 Cloverfield Lane Director!

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BlueMarsalis79

BlueMarsalis79

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Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Dec 16, 2020, 11:00:25 AM
Including not only native actors would probably attract more people to see it, so it's probably a safer bet. I would totally dig an all native cast, but that seems unlikely.

R' u' avin' a giggle M8?

Disney would be flayed alive, but you're right about something marketing this to a Chinese audience will be nightmarish, here's hoping they don't bother. 

Dachande

Wouldnt be surprised to see them try to cast some more Hollywood names with Native ancestry, to appeal to other markets.

BigDaddyJohn

Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Dec 16, 2020, 06:22:05 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Dec 16, 2020, 11:00:25 AM
Including not only native actors would probably attract more people to see it, so it's probably a safer bet. I would totally dig an all native cast, but that seems unlikely.

R' u' avin' a giggle M8?

Disney would be flayed alive, but you're right about something marketing this to a Chinese audience woul be a nightmare, here's hoping they don't bother.

Flayed alive, if they casted only natives or if they didn't ?

Nightmare Asylum

Seeing as "Skulls" is apparently being described as having a "pre-colonial" setting, I would imagine that this film will feature a solely indigenous cast.

BlueMarsalis79

Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 16, 2020, 06:33:50 PM
Seeing as "Skulls" is apparently being described as having a "pre-colonial" setting, I would imagine that this film will feature a solely indigenous cast.

With this in mind, if they casted none.

BigDaddyJohn

Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Dec 16, 2020, 06:40:04 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 16, 2020, 06:33:50 PM
Seeing as "Skulls" is apparently being described as having a "pre-colonial" setting, I would imagine that this film will feature a solely indigenous cast.

With this in mind, if they casted none.

I totally agree

Wysps

Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 16, 2020, 06:33:49 PM
Seeing as "Skulls" is apparently being described as having a "pre-colonial" setting, I would imagine that this film will feature a solely indigenous cast.

I'd like to know if pre-colonial means prior to the establishment of governments by the Spanish , the States, or pre-contact altogether. It could still be considered pre-colonial, even with the presence of Spanish "explorers/mappers" since a colony wouldn't have been established or taken root. I'd love for the horses to make it into the movie, but without the presence of the Spanish that would be impossible  :'(

Mr.Turok

Quote from: Master on Dec 16, 2020, 05:22:35 AM
I'm not diminishing games nor do I intend to.  Instead of arguing who's right I'll give an example.

There was once a super popular SW game series called Dark Forces and it's mane character Kyle Katarn was one of the most important characters out of the movie spectrum. It was so popular it had impact on whole universe and books were written that gave it's characters further life. But the Disney came and all of the sudden whole set up  and it's characters are no longer canon. I see bits of it recycled and
implemented in other new SW media, but as much as it personally hurts me none of it matters anymore.

That was an unfortunate decision Disney has done  but this doesn't change the fact that at the time it was canon, simple as that.

By that logic, you can't even say only go by films as canon as films aren't immune to removal of canon, as we see Terminator has done this to their past movies with their constant reboots, as Dark Fate is the true canon. (Although I elect to ignore that decision) Ridley Scott ignored the AVP series and continue off with Alien his own way. Colonial Marines was canon until they made the wise decision to remove it with the exception of some materials, as it was canned by both critics, causal gamers, and fans universally.

Until Fox and Disney says Hunting Grounds isn't canon anymore, than it's canon. The big dogs declare it, and since its great material/lore for the Predator series, I'm not disagreeing with this anytime soon. If its just you not liking the game and the lore it brings, that's fine man, you can ignore Hunting Grounds as I ignore Dark Fate.

Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Dec 16, 2020, 11:00:25 AM
Including not only native actors would probably attract more people to see it, so it's probably a safer bet. I would totally dig an all native cast, but that seems unlikely.

Well there are some factors that can help take care with that.

Johnny Depp wasn't a big name when he was casted in Nightmare on Elm Street 2 until years later. So was Linda Hamilton and Arnold Schwarzenegger in Terminator with now both names being synonyms to the franchise. If the movie delivers good and the actors do a good job than people will come. Never underestimate the power of word by mouth.

With culture politics being a thing these days, having a full on native cast will be too much to not ignore these days. People went crazy for Black Panther, Apocalypto is a great film with an all star native/hispanic cast, and the demand for stars of various backgrounds is high these days.

Lets also not forget that Predator was considered a trash film back in the day until years later people realized that this film was gold so I don't think something like people not digging an all native cast will stop this film. Internationally? I can see China not taking it so well, seeing to how they removed Finn from the Star Wars posters but other than that, I don't know.

SiL

Johnny Depp was in the first one and Arnie had done Conan.

Mr.Turok

Quote from: SiL on Dec 17, 2020, 05:08:06 AM
Johnny Depp was in the first one and Arnie had done Conan.
Right, right, my bad! I could have sworn Depp was in the second one but I have seen the first two films only once though so yeah just a fuzzy memory.

Voodoo Magic

Quote from: Mr.Turok on Dec 17, 2020, 04:48:51 AM
If its just you not liking the game and the lore it brings, that's fine man, you can ignore Hunting Grounds as I ignore Dark Fate.

Yeah, Dark Fate doesn't exist in my dojo either. :)

QuoteJohnny Depp wasn't a big name when he was casted in Nightmare on Elm Street 2 until years later.

Yeah Depp wasn't even the lead in Nightmare of Elm Street but that film didn't make him big either. Neither did his stint in Platoon. It wasn't until his starring role in the television series 21 Jump Street did he become a star and a pinup for young teenage girls everywhere.

QuoteSo was Linda Hamilton and Arnold Schwarzenegger in Terminator with now both names being synonyms to the franchise.

Quote from: Mr.Turok on Dec 17, 2020, 06:28:00 AM
Quote from: SiL on Dec 17, 2020, 05:08:06 AM
Johnny Depp was in the first one and Arnie had done Conan.
Right, right, my bad! I could have sworn Depp was in the second one but I have seen the first two films only once though so yeah just a fuzzy memory.

Yeah Arnie had done two Conan films before The Terminator, but even more movies before that. Arnold even won a Golden Globe (can you believe it!) for his role in Stay Hungry with Jeff Bridges and Sally Field. But he was already world famous for bodybuilding before that. With his charisma alone he garnered a huge spotlight on what was previously thought of an odd sporting competition.

For Linda, The Terminator was indeed big for her. Terminator 2, even bigger.  Another good example would be Sigourney Weaver and Alien.  :)

QuoteIf the movie delivers good and the actors do a good job than people will come. Never underestimate the power of word by mouth.

Plus in slasher / horror films, the draw usually is never the actors being chased. It's about the horror and its villian.  :)

QuoteLets also not forget that Predator was considered a trash film back in the day until years later people realized that this film was gold

I don't think this is an accurate description of what went down in 1987. It likely applies more to Predator 2 to some degree.

BigDaddyJohn

I was about to say that, among genre fans it was well received, and also among general audiences.



Mr.Turok

Mr.Turok

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So I was doing some research for a project I am working on and I came across the only recorded female warrior chief of a native tribe (so far discovered), Running Eagle of the Piegan Blackfoot Indian. If you guys want an idea of how badass the lead for the new movie can be, I'd recommend checking out this article. The article has a lot of high school dick jokey humor, but its the staple of Ben Thompson who writes these articles and books for his website. 

https://www.badassoftheweek.com/runningeagle

For those who want a clean humorless read:

https://web.archive.org/web/20170114022132/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Running_Eagle

Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Dec 17, 2020, 01:55:00 PM
I was about to say that, among genre fans it was well received, and also among general audiences.

Really? I recall many people, including some here although I don't remember who,  that it fell flat on the beginning as a B movie until decades later it was seen as something gold.

SiL

Nah, the original was pretty well regarded as one of the better 80s actioners.

Kradan

We all know what "trash Predator movie" is

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