http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/06/18/prometheus-2-could-peter-weyland-return?abthid=53a1e1972a24e09f32000022 (http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/06/18/prometheus-2-could-peter-weyland-return?abthid=53a1e1972a24e09f32000022)
Fantastic news. I always felt his character was wasted, and he should have been one of the main ones, along with Shaw and David.
He's open to collecting a new paycheck. Of course. :P
Weyland 8, made with some Deacon's DNA :p
he could play the next generation of android from weyland, the first bishop so to speak
I did like Guy Pearce - more in the TED talk stuff than in the actual film itself though. I would happily welcome him back as an android (no age makeup) and that'd play into his immorality angle (something they really didn't build up enough to be convincing for me in the film).
perhaps weylands consciousness will exist through technology . ?
Maybe when the Juggernaut crashed some of the jars containing the black goo cracked and weylands dead body rolled into it.
Don't think the goo is going to bring him back from the dead.
Maybe Ford had one of them electro nervous system trickers and Weyland fell on it...
I imagine it will be an AvP2 Eisenburg kind of deal where they transferred Eiseberg's consciousness to an Android body.
Hope not...
I hope the only android in Prometheus 2 is David. Well, multiple Davids. And one of them is evil. Maybe we can finally have the 'nefarious David affixing a facehugger to someone's face' moment.
The first one wasn't exactly good.
That's what I love about that movie, actually. Lindelof really took the approach of "well, he's not technically good or bad, he's a robot". Whereas Ash was obviously bad, and Bishop obviously good.
In any event, I can't picture original David attaching a facehugger to somebody's face. I think David is sincere in his fascination with Shaw, and will take her where she wants to go.
Ash was following orders just like David.
Quote from: SM on Jun 19, 2014, 09:54:52 PM
Hope not...
Only way I can see it working without being tacky as f**k.
Unless Pierce is just another android without old weyland's memories, I'd be down with that I suppose.
I'd be surprised - if it did ever happen - if it was anything more than holograms.
Quote from: SM on Jun 19, 2014, 11:38:04 PM
I'd be surprised - if it did ever happen - if it was anything more than holograms.
This. Maybe David accesses some more Weyland Industries files, and we get more young Pearce.
Could they logically implement the Weyland Yacht scene that was cut, somehow?
bzzzt
WEYLAND INDUSTRIES - BUILDING BETTER WORLDS
Hello friends. My name is Peter Weyland, and though you can't see her, right now I'm being blown by Miss September.
Maybe someone will find Weyland's old instagram account, acting like a British Dan Bilzerian
Wasn't Guy Pearce in Momento?
Quote from: SM on Jun 20, 2014, 01:23:53 AM
bzzzt
WEYLAND INDUSTRIES - BUILDING BETTER WORLDS
Hello friends. My name is Peter Weyland, and though you can't see her, right now I'm being blown by Miss September.
Thanks for spoiling the movie, SM.
Thanks. ::)
:D
Quote from: Spoonman101 on Jun 20, 2014, 01:46:42 AM
Wasn't Guy Pearce in Momento?
No, that was Gary Oldman. You're thinking of Hannibal.
No it was Guy
Shh.
Gary Oldman? As in the cheif of the police in Batman? Hahahahhahaha!
He was also the star of Bad Grandpa
Alright, how's this. For reasons not logical, David08's head insists that Shaw recover Weylands Body and put it on ice for their trip to the engineer home world. Out of sheer convenience. Shaw agrees to this after David08 reminds her of the TRILLION bucks Weyland corp put up to fiance this debacle. Once there the engineers resurrect Weyland. God does not approve of this and sends man xenomorph. The ship of course never makes it to earth.
One of the biggest disappointments I had with PROMETHEUS was the fact that it didn't include any footage of Guy Pearce as a younger Peter Weyland.
I loved the whole TEDTalk sequence in the futuristic arena, and that's why my copy of Agent9's PROMETHEUS:Special Edition fan edit is my go to version, seeing as it's included at the beginning.
As I still feel that Pearce deserved a moment in his prime in the original, I'd be more than happy to see even a flashback involving him in some way in the sequel. Not that I think his character will be included again in any way in the next one, but who knows at this point?
Where can one watch this fan edit? Or any fan edit, for that matter?
TED talk is way too long in the context of the film. It doesn't do anything to advance the plot.
I feel the same way about the cave discovery, as it's literally described and explained again 5 mins later.
The cave painting was bullshit anyways.
How can you divulge translated alien mathematical measurements from a cave painting.
That nigga could've been teaching early humans how to play basketball for all Shaw and Holloway knew. That was Paul Anderson lame.
Yeah, I really don't like the cave scene. I just want to get to space by that point!
Lemonade, if you google 'fan edits' then you'll find out what's available out there. You'll need to dig around a little, but they are available to download.
Here's the trailer for Agent 9's version - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEGJFGIPQ7c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEGJFGIPQ7c)
QuoteYeah, I really don't like the cave scene. I just want to get to space by that point!
That seven minutes must've been terrible. Did you live?
Quote from: Ghostface on Jun 21, 2014, 04:31:11 AM
I feel the same way about the cave discovery, as it's literally described and explained again 5 mins later.
No, it isn't. We see the painting and get a few hints, then Charlie and Elly explain it after they wake up. It's pretty important to the story. Unlike the TED talk which develops a character who's barely in the film.
Quote from: BringbackJonesy! on Jun 21, 2014, 10:31:53 AM
Lemonade, if you google 'fan edits' then you'll find out what's available out there. You'll need to dig around a little, but they are available to download.
Here's the trailer for Agent 9's version - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEGJFGIPQ7c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEGJFGIPQ7c)
Ugh. I've tried everywhere, and can't find one anywhere. I need a direct link.
I'll send you a PM shortly Lemonade. The fan edit has some good ideas, some of the reinserted scenes are great for the characters, a few of the musical cues are horribly balanced and unneeded. (In particular a usage of JG's Alien theme that plays when Janek finds the Juggernaut... Oi. Not fitting at all.)
As far as the TED talk, I think it works in the context of what the fan edit was trying to do. it moves the focus more towards Weyland/Vickers. Guy Pearce's presence is much heftier, as is Idris Elba.
And yeah, the Cave scene is redundant. It's not in the fan-edit, and you don't miss it's absence. :)
Quote from: Ghostface on Jun 20, 2014, 09:11:53 AM
He was also the star of Bad Grandpa
thought that was mark maron ?
I'll never understand casting Pierce as Weyland. Did they really cast a young guy, then encase him in old-man prosthetic makeup (which always looks fake, no matter how good it is), just so he could appear as himself in some promo scene that isn't even in the actual film? Why the hell didn't they just cast an older actor?
Pretty sure there were scenes of a younger Weyland at the time Pearce was cast.
When David is talking to Weyland in cryosleep there was a scene of a younger Weyland on a yacht telling David to try harder. I love Pierce but I still think it was a poor decision.
Ahh, there are some actors that have pulled it off convincingly.
As for this guy "Pierce" having him return is likely going to have it in flashbacks or as an android. Almost too predictable...
Put Guy in it, starve him and let his beard grow out and you've got movie f**king GOLD.
The man is a force of nature.
With a beard.
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jun 19, 2014, 10:41:45 AM
Maybe when the Juggernaut crashed some of the jars containing the black goo cracked and weylands dead body rolled into it.
...revived super-Weyland meets up with the Deacon...
Could work as flashbacks if David is talking to Shaw about his own inception, or about what was going on behind the prometheus mission.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Jun 23, 2014, 09:07:10 AM
I'll never understand casting Pierce as Weyland. Did they really cast a young guy, then encase him in old-man prosthetic makeup (which always looks fake, no matter how good it is), just so he could appear as himself in some promo scene that isn't even in the actual film? Why the hell didn't they just cast an older actor?
I'm of the opinion that Prometheus went through some pretty significant story changes during filming and production. I remember seeing some images floating around in 2012 that contained images of the other three Engineer sleep containers in the Juggernaut. They all had holes burst through the top cover. In one shot they had a cover off, and inside was the corpse of an engineer that looked like he got "bursted". This wasn't the last Engineer, but one of the other three.
The guy Pierce as Weyland is just another example of these changes that took place. I'm guessing that by the time they figured it was too expensive to do the yacht scene, it was too late to look for a different actor to play the part.
The other three hypersleep pods have holes in them in the final film.
Quote from: SM on Oct 09, 2014, 05:24:16 AM
The other three hypersleep pods have holes in them in the final film.
Yes..
Sorry this is a bit off topic.
My point is that it seems like they were going to do MUCH more with them. They even created a full size dead bursted engineer in a juggernaut pod. Why go through the expense and trouble of creating that level of detail if it was never meant to be seen? IMO, the only logical explanation is that they intended David or some Prometheus crew members to actually inspect the other three sleep pods in the Juggernaut. I would have really liked to seen this in the film. We know there are four pods from some of the zoomed out Juggernaut cockpit shots in the film, but none of the other three are shown up close or mentioned in the final film.
Same goes for Guy Pierce as Weyland. It seems as though Ridley was doing some major fiddling with the story pretty late in the process.
Quote from: Mustangjeff on Oct 09, 2014, 02:20:13 PM
It seems as though Ridley was doing some major fiddling with the story pretty late in the process.
That's pretty much standard operating procedure for Riddles. Not sure if you have ever seen all the deleted footage and alternate takes for Blade Runner? There were entire sets that weren't used in the final film nevermind a sleep pod or two.
With regards to fiddling with his films, Tom Southwell (Blade Runner Art Dept.) said it best:
Quote from: Tom SouthwellThe film was constantly changing, developing, improving. Ridley is never satisfied. Constantly improving, layering, enriching.
David Peoples, screenplay writer, describes in Dangerous Days, coming to the set with new pages Ridley has required, only to find that the idea has changed again. "that kind of thing can make you crazy", he said.
Every time they brought the Spinner to Ridley he would ask for an addition, another sticker, another complexity. I was trying to complete something, because I had a ton more things to draw, but nothing was ever finished. Keep adding something on top, to the texture, to the complexity. "This kind of thing can make you crazy".
Now picture Vangelis knitting a score around an ever changing temporary edit of BR and his yarn stretching and shrinking with daily changes. I find it amazing he was even able to do the film, much less make the masterpiece he created that finishes the film so perfectly.
So now look to Ridley Scott, who pushed EVERYBODY to improve, add this, add that, more layers, skuff that up, wet that down, glaze that wall, more texture, more smoke, put more neon, swing that light beam, reflect the neon in the broken glass...it just never stopped, and he pushed people to the breaking point. This is why BR looks and sounds the way it does.
Ridley.
Ridley.
Ridley.
So two words I'll never believe: final cut.
It's pretty standard for a lot of films. Material is constantly added and deleted then added again during the cutting.
And then changed again years later.