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Look what we have here. You may remember ADI brought out a book around the time AvP was released called “The Creature Effects of ADI”. Well, they’re bringing another one out for AvP2. There’s two pictures on the right panel that are from AvP2, right? Okay, the Predator picture is too small to see anything but at least it’s something. :wink:

“Alien vs. Predator: Survival of the Fittest is the upcoming sequel to 2004’s Alien vs. Predator film. In this follow-up to the worldwide hit ALIEN VS. PREDATOR, the iconic monsters from two of the scariest film franchises ever, wage war in an American Midwestern town "" with the residents caught in the middle.”

Notice that they’re also using the “Survival of the Fittest” tagline on the book. Special thanks to Harry72 from AliensVsPredator.de for finding this.

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We definately know that the Predator gets into the sewers now.

Any chance of getting a larger pic?

Not a chance. That was the size the picture came in.

Looks more menacing, but all they did was remove the dome and muck with the neck.

I want my Giger Alien back, not these ambulatory turds :'(

I like it. I want my Alien to look scary and threatening and that one does.

I want my Alien to look like an Alien.

And that one doesn't.

You want it too look like THE Alien.  :P

When it comes to this, people call me a purist, but I don't think that's fair.

I appreciate everything that went into the original design. The aesthetic, the sexual undertones, the uniqueness, its ultimate composition. So much went into creating something that was new and frightening, easily one of, if not the, best creature design to grace the screen. It was bizarre and twisted, a biomechanical parody of the human form.

And now it looks like a shit that gained sentience. A tube here or there. The second jaw, a slightly elongated head. Drool, a tail, protrusions on the back. But now it looks so far removed from what it was I just can't look at it and think 'That's the Alien'. It's not. It's a knock-off, a parody, something that belongs in a B-movie ripoff.

There end my two cents.

I actually thought the original Alien looked B movie.....each to his own!

I like this new one, its not too different, just enough..

Nothing to complain about the Predator.
I hope the Alien has that ugly color only because of the lighting, I like my Xenos black. I agree with SiL, the original design was way better. This "Alien" looks more like some wild animal out of a zoo from the future. But when you look at this (http://www.hrgiger.com/alien.htm) you know it's an Alien.
PS. SiL, check your PMs!

give them a chance lads! its one half frontal with bad lighting...!! :P

f**k!

My number one hate of ADI's recent Aliens was the shitty top lip used in A:R and AvP...and it's still there!  Even though they dropped the dome, they kept that shit-eating, droopy-ass f**king lip.

Damn it.
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Yeah, yeah.  I know I sound like a raving fanboy, but sometimes you just can't help it.  :)

I think that Alien looks awesome, the head looks very creepy, couldnt be better in my oppinion, and the Predator...  we dont have to talk about him, hes just badass in all ways ;D

Looks pretty damn fine to me :) Can't wait till we get some footage!

Ppl just need to chill out a bit here and enjoy the ride!

Quote from: Champonser on Apr 21, 2007, 11:53:07 AM
Like i said on the front page i like this pic better than the first.

The Alien looks very cool, really like those in Aliens ;D
I like those more than the original Alien, because when you see the original, you couldnt think it is a brutal, i mean fast and agile, creature or fighter, so in my opinion the original was only a creature that could attack out of the dakness and only when the prey is in front of him^^
I like Aliens 8)

Quote from: dDave on Apr 21, 2007, 12:53:10 PM
The Alien looks very cool, really like those in Aliens ;D
I like those more than the original Alien, because when you see the original, you couldnt think it is a brutal, i mean fast and agile, creature or fighter, so in my opinion the original was only a creature that could attack out of the dakness and only when the prey is in front of him^^
I like Aliens 8)

The first alien is way too slow,but the design is still and remain the best.

QuoteThe first alien is way too slow,but the design is still and remain the best.

But why, tell me why!
I want to understand it...
I mean, its the original, thats cool enough, but i think at the second time they make it little better...

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Quote from: dDave on Apr 21, 2007, 12:59:15 PM
The first alien is way too slow,but the design is still and remain the best.

But why, tell me why!
I want to understand it...
I mean, its the original, thats cool enough, but i think at the second time they make it little better...

Cuz it's less an insectoid like the ones in aliens.The xenos in resurraction are too beast like and the one in alien3(second in my opinion)is animalistic.Think about it,the first alien is just so....alien.It's just my opinion anyone has an opinion for himself,there is nothing wrong about the fact that you prefer the aliens in "aliens".

Quote from: Champonser on Apr 21, 2007, 01:28:01 PM
Cuz it's less an insectoid like the ones in aliens.The xenos in resurraction are too beast like and the one in alien3(second in my opinion)is animalistic.Think about it,the first alien is just so....alien.It's just my opinion anyone has an opinion for himself,there is nothing wrong about the fact that you prefer the aliens in "aliens".

OK
Now i understand why you think the original is better ;)
but for me and my opinion it doesnt matter.
but thats really ok ;D

I personally think it's cool we get a slightly different version each time. If we knew it was going to look exactly the same next time, we'd have not so much to talk about haha! ;D

Quote from: DazAvP01 on Apr 21, 2007, 01:43:48 PM
I personally think it's cool we get a slightly different version each time. If we knew it was going to look exactly the same next time, we'd have not so much to talk about haha! ;D

Yeahh, and i think this is the best version of the Alien since the original and the Aliens from "Aliens".

The alien looks good but I'll reserve judgement for the predator until we get to see his face.

I honestly squeeked when I saw the pictures. I can't wait for the trailer.

Quote from: SiL on Apr 21, 2007, 09:00:55 AM
When it comes to this, people call me a purist, but I don't think that's fair.

I appreciate everything that went into the original design. The aesthetic, the sexual undertones, the uniqueness, its ultimate composition. So much went into creating something that was new and frightening, easily one of, if not the, best creature design to grace the screen. It was bizarre and twisted, a biomechanical parody of the human form.

And now it looks like a shit that gained sentience. A tube here or there. The second jaw, a slightly elongated head. Drool, a tail, protrusions on the back. But now it looks so far removed from what it was I just can't look at it and think 'That's the Alien'. It's not. It's a knock-off, a parody, something that belongs in a B-movie ripoff.

There end my two cents.

Odd as it may seem, SiL, I agree with you... The original design was top notch, why mess with it...?

The 'Aliens' movie is 'guilty' of this odd change between the 'domed xenos' and the 'un-domed ones'... This later design was less expensive, less heavy for the stunt guys, but it created continuity problems because the hosts being from the same species, why the different xeno appearance...?

People have suggested that the 'Aliens' ones are drones, there to protect the Queen and gather hosts for impregnation, and the original was a soldier one, more individualistic in nature and a hunter... But we have seen now, in AVP,  the Queen and the 'domed ones' together, so that explanation is off now... So why the different designs then...?

IMO, the AVP2 design is there as a crowd-pleaser, what I called a 'fan-pleaser'... And it will just add more to the confusion especially if there is to be no Queen... This is a visual gaffe that was never explained on-screen... And I think they should, somehow, explain this in AVP2...but this is me holding my breath...  ::)

So, SiL, if you are a purist, then so am I, and that is somewhat contradictory as far as I am concerned, right...?  ;)

if there is no queen (even though i want her back) maybe they are protecting the PredAlien and are protecting it like they protect a queen.

A theory...

Quote from: Aliendrone on Apr 21, 2007, 03:16:45 PM
if there is no queen (even though i want her back) maybe they are protecting the PredAlien and are protecting it like they protect a queen.

A theory...

Unlikely, if the first part of the AICN script is SOMEWHAT maintained, which, as far as FOX is concerned, I don't think it will be changed a great deal... The Aliens will have to show up on Earth from somewhere and my guess is the crashing Predator spaceship from AVP...

Now, the Predalien will probably die in the crash, with the rest of the Predator clan... Bummer... and the sole survivors will be some facehuggers (whose existance on the ship must be explained in the light of what transpired from AVP...)  which will impregnate some humans and the Predator will arrive from space or just being a surviving Predator who managed to escape in a pod before the crash...who knows, right...? ... and will begin his hunt of the Xenos... That is what I think will happen... But the Predalien is probably only gonna be in the first 5, 10 minutes of the movie... Again, that is my guess...! ;) 
   

interesting screens.... and the Alien design looks sick!  8)

Cant wait for this.

x-M-x

I think the directors would be happy with the different creatures, i would if I were them, it makes your mark on the series, and as we know nothing about the development from a movie point of view, theres no need to explain the different heads..

Who knows? maybe the original Alien will make an appereance, remember, theres multiple creatures in this one as far as were led to believe.

Predalien is a must for me, I think it would take alot of balls to introduce a change to the series, then kill it off after 5 minutes, cant see that happening,

Hybrid is the trump card for this movie....

I don't mind the changes made in Alien. In fact I really like those designs - They were more agile versions of the original and they maintained the biomechanical aspect. Head still looked like a penis and all that, but a ridged one for all the ladies.

...I feel dirty having said that last remark, but anyway.

I think my point was best summed up when ADI made the head shorter and flatter - Removing one of the fundamental design aesthetics, the psycho-sexual undertones - because they thought pointier shapes are more menacing.

Ooo!
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It's a brown alien and i wonder about the other multiple creatures in the film.Looks like this movie will be full,see this:Predator,facehuggers,ridged head aliens,smooth head aliens,praetorians,predalien,a queen,an other newborn and humans.I can't wait to see this :P I have modify my post,now is more clear.

Praetorians?

God, please no O_o

And the newborne was the result of severe genetic tampering. I don't think it's coming back.

Quote from: SiL on Apr 21, 2007, 10:14:23 PM
Praetorians?

God, please no O_o

And the newborne was the result of severe genetic tampering. I don't think it's coming back.

I'm joking only,i'm joking with the interview that tells about the battle on the roof or something.It's says there will be multiple creatures included.I have no idea what that is suposed to mean.Maybe the lonely predator fights with aliens on the roof,but humans are included in to the fight too.But whatever the pics got me hyped,the creatures are improved.I can't belive ADI becomes better after just one avp and this is good.I'm happy for the fact they know what has to be changed since the first avp.

okay, i've seen something. Now i can go a month without new stuff.....(teaser now)...nothing.

Overall, I am very pleased with the look of this Alien. The ribs look great, and the paint job looks similar to Cameron's version, with the black background with brown highlights.


Very excited.

Can't wait to see more of the pred, but I'm loving the lighting situations I'm seeing.

Quote from: Uncanny Antman on Apr 21, 2007, 11:23:00 AM
f**k!

My number one hate of ADI's recent Aliens was the shitty top lip used in A:R and AvP...and it's still there!  Even though they dropped the dome, they kept that shit-eating, droopy-ass f**king lip.

Damn it.
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Yeah, yeah.  I know I sound like a raving fanboy, but sometimes you just can't help it.  :)

Hasnt the lip been in every alien film? I distinctly remember the lip being pulled back right before Lambert gets PWND in Alien..

Lemme know if im wrong.

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Quote from: Uncanny Antman on Apr 21, 2007, 11:23:00 AM
f**k!

My number one hate of ADI's recent Aliens was the shitty top lip used in A:R and AvP...and it's still there!  Even though they dropped the dome, they kept that shit-eating, droopy-ass f**king lip.

Damn it.
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Yeah, yeah.  I know I sound like a raving fanboy, but sometimes you just can't help it.  :)

Hasnt the lip been in every alien film? I distinctly remember the lip being pulled back right before Lambert gets PWND in Alien..

Lemme know if im wrong.

you ain't wrong. its been here, all the way. ( i mean the lip)

Ok thanks I thought so..

any ways im ready to bust at the new pic right now..
My fan boy dream is that the ALien hive gets made in the sewars and they drag towns folk down there once it gets big enough. That would be scarry as shit!

Then the pred gets to town and eventually has to fight his way to the hive center kinda homage to the Pred ship in P2 which was hiding in the sewars lol

Quote from: Dekapitator on Apr 21, 2007, 10:46:40 AM
Nothing to complain about the Predator.

How can you complain about something too small to see?

Quote from: Dekapitator on Apr 21, 2007, 10:46:40 AM
I hope the Alien has that ugly color only because of the lighting, I like my Xenos black.

The Strauses said the movie would be filmed in cool blues.

They said they'd be using a variety of palets. As you can see from the still of the Predator, it's orange in that scene, not blue.

As for the lip, while they've always had lips, yes, what he's getting at is that dopey V-shaped half-smiling grin that the Alien Res-AvP designs had.

^Thanks SiL.  That is exactly what I was talking about.  The original Alien's lips were awesome.  Even the Alien 3 "human lips" worked really well.  But I hate the Rez/AvP style.

I probably reacted strongly because the rest of the design looks good.

It's almost like they left the lip there just to make sure I couldn't enjoy it 100%  ;)

But whats so wrong about them, i think they look good and they match perfectly with the design.

I prefer the weird condom-and-cable lips of the original design. Just looked so creepy.

Here they just curl into a snarl.

i personally find that creepy and scary

Quote from: Uncanny Antman on Apr 22, 2007, 05:14:41 AM
^Thanks SiL.  That is exactly what I was talking about.  The original Alien's lips were awesome.  Even the Alien 3 "human lips" worked really well.  But I hate the Rez/AvP style.

I probably reacted strongly because the rest of the design looks good.

It's almost like they left the lip there just to make sure I couldn't enjoy it 100%  ;)

You can't even see that there's a droopy upper lip.  Take a closer look - that part is in shadow, and it's hard to make out any details.  So there's no use complaining until we see a clearer picture.

Quote from: Alienseseses on Apr 22, 2007, 02:38:24 AM
How can you complain about something too small to see?

It's big enough to see the Predators' main characteristics such as head size, dreadlocks lenght and overall muscularity.

It doesn't really tell us anything about the Predator that we don't already know from other pictures. I doubt we'd be able to tell anything, in fact, if it wasn't for the pictures that came before it.

Quote from: Lovely Man on Apr 22, 2007, 02:25:48 PM
It doesn't really tell us anything about the Predator that we don't already know from other pictures.

That's not the point. What I said didn't contain anything that presumes that what you posted (that the pic shows us something new). The point is that

Quoteit's big enough to see the Predators' main characteristics such as head size, dreadlocks length and overall muscularity.

QuoteI doubt we'd be able to tell anything, in fact, if it wasn't for the pictures that came before it.

You'd have to be blind not to see that it is different from the AvP Preds in terms of head size and muscularity. Even on that small picture it's clear this is an "old school Predator", not like the AvP ones.

Quote from: Dekapitator on Apr 22, 2007, 02:41:03 PM

Quote from: Lovely Man on Apr 22, 2007, 02:25:48 PM
It doesn't really tell us anything about the Predator that we don't already know from other pictures.

That's not the point. What I said didn't contain anything that presumes that what you posted (that the pic shows us something new). The point is that

Quoteit's big enough to see the Predators' main characteristics such as head size, dreadlocks length and overall muscularity.

QuoteI doubt we'd be able to tell anything, in fact, if it wasn't for the pictures that came before it.

You'd have to be blind not to see that it is different from the AvP Preds in terms of head size and muscularity. Even on that small picture it's clear this is an "old school Predator", not like the AvP ones.

Dekapitator, the AVP Preds were fully armoured and muscled as hell (in the featurettes, they showed both the suits and the stunt men walking about in them, and they looked pretty muscled.. Also, the armour made them bulkier... but I suppose the materials now used in AVP2 (silicon instead of foam latex) aloows for a thinner and pliable skin, enabling more mouvement and a more elegant figure... Though the first pic and this one, in comparison with Pred 1 and espcially Pred 2, still looks heavy... Ad the head is too large, dude... the thinner the Pred suit is, the bigger the head becomes... and it sure looks big comparing to the body... check the Pred 1 pic when the Predator switches off his cloaking device after coming out of the water... check the balance between his body and his head... Then compare it with the small pic of the Pred in the sewers...see the differences...?

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Quote from: Dekapitator on Apr 22, 2007, 02:41:03 PM

Quote from: Lovely Man on Apr 22, 2007, 02:25:48 PM
It doesn't really tell us anything about the Predator that we don't already know from other pictures.

That's not the point. What I said didn't contain anything that presumes that what you posted (that the pic shows us something new). The point is that

Quoteit's big enough to see the Predators' main characteristics such as head size, dreadlocks length and overall muscularity.

QuoteI doubt we'd be able to tell anything, in fact, if it wasn't for the pictures that came before it.

You'd have to be blind not to see that it is different from the AvP Preds in terms of head size and muscularity. Even on that small picture it's clear this is an "old school Predator", not like the AvP ones.

Dekapitator, the AVP Preds were fully armoured and muscled as hell (in the featurettes, they showed both the suits and the stunt men walking about in them, and they looked pretty muscled.. Also, the armour made them bulkier... but I suppose the materials now used in AVP2 (silicon instead of foam latex) aloows for a thinner and pliable skin, enabling more mouvement and a more elegant figure... Though the first pic and this one, in comparison with Pred 1 and espcially Pred 2, still looks heavy... Ad the head is too large, dude... the thinner the Pred suit is, the bigger the head becomes... and it sure looks big comparing to the body... check the Pred 1 pic when the Predator switches off his cloaking device after coming out of the water... check the balance between his body and his head... Then compare it with the small pic of the Pred in the sewers...see the differences...?

Now youre the one who has to take a closer look at the Pictures, if you look at the avp2 pred from the Predator 2 cover you see that the body is not bulky, and i dont see what you got about the head, everything about the damn thing is fine, all good balanced, body is skinny and not too much armour, perfect in my oppinion, and every Pred is different, different colors on each one and different bodys, these are Predators and not Aliens, like stan winston sais on the Predator 2 special edition, theyr like snakes, theyre the same species, but different snakes have differences in colour and strukture. And i think thats very good, anderson missed that part too, in avp theyre all the same, same bodys, same armour, you just dont have the feeling that each one have a history, and thats just the stupiest thing because this is what makes every Predator unique.

RIJOENPIAL, that Predator is an old school one and that's what matters to me. Back to the roots as the bros said. I heard others say the head is too big, I think it's good the way it is.

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Quote from: Lovely Man on Apr 22, 2007, 02:25:48 PM
It doesn't really tell us anything about the Predator that we don't already know from other pictures.

That's not the point. What I said didn't contain anything that presumes that what you posted (that the pic shows us something new). The point is that

Quoteit's big enough to see the Predators' main characteristics such as head size, dreadlocks length and overall muscularity.

QuoteI doubt we'd be able to tell anything, in fact, if it wasn't for the pictures that came before it.

You'd have to be blind not to see that it is different from the AvP Preds in terms of head size and muscularity. Even on that small picture it's clear this is an "old school Predator", not like the AvP ones.

Dekapitator, the AVP Preds were fully armoured and muscled as hell (in the featurettes, they showed both the suits and the stunt men walking about in them, and they looked pretty muscled.. Also, the armour made them bulkier... but I suppose the materials now used in AVP2 (silicon instead of foam latex) aloows for a thinner and pliable skin, enabling more mouvement and a more elegant figure... Though the first pic and this one, in comparison with Pred 1 and espcially Pred 2, still looks heavy... Ad the head is too large, dude... the thinner the Pred suit is, the bigger the head becomes... and it sure looks big comparing to the body... check the Pred 1 pic when the Predator switches off his cloaking device after coming out of the water... check the balance between his body and his head... Then compare it with the small pic of the Pred in the sewers...see the differences...?

Now youre the one who has to take a closer look at the Pictures, if you look at the avp2 pred from the Predator 2 cover you see that the body is not bulky, and i dont see what you got about the head, everything about the damn thing is fine, all good balanced, body is skinny and not too much armour, perfect in my oppinion, and every Pred is different, different colors on each one and different bodys, these are Predators and not Aliens, like stan winston sais on the Predator 2 special edition, theyr like snakes, theyre the same species, but different snakes have differences in colour and strukture. And i think thats very good, anderson missed that part too, in avp theyre all the same, same bodys, same armour, you just dont have the feeling that each one have a history, and thats just the stupiest thing because this is what makes every Predator unique.

First of all, a cover that could well be a montage is no proof whatsoever... That and the small pic only show a big head, comparing with the Pred 1 and Pred 2 body... And that is all  have to say about that... this is a POV thing... to some it looks big, to others, don't... and to each his own...

Now, second remark, the Stan Winston's remark is a good dodge, but not enough... The xeno in Alien1, Alien3, Alien4, AVP, all have domed heads, from HUMAN hosts... ALiens was the only one that introduced the un-domed ones... So, OF COURSE Stan Winston will defend his Queen, no pun intended... he was the designer of the new Xenos (remember, Giger was not even an advisor on 'Aliens', and he would never change his original design without a good explanation...and the 'easier for stunt men' reason would not matter to Giger, who is an artist, not a practical person...so that would have increased thealready heavy mood on 'Aliens' set...)

I am doiong some lateral thinking and that is how you put things into perspective... Of course Stan Winston will justify his departure from Giger's designs by comparing a bee-like Hive-minded insectoid xenos with snakes...!  LOL

Third, the masks differentiated them, so did the Grid idea to distinguish the Xeno that killed two Preds from the rest... So i dn't get what PWA did wrong about that... He individualised the Preds good enough, with the different masks, and the skull heads in the Chopper one, and also the Xeno character from the rest... What else couild he do that would not get too intrusive...?

So, I am not the one that needs to take a good look at the pictures... I see just fine... And I seem to remember saying you to compare the Pred 1 and Pred 2 with the AVP2 Pred to illustrate my point... but you did not do that, did ya...?

So, until you do, there is nothing more to discuss... Comparing is how you distinguish, hindsight instead of shortsight... That is my motto... And again, the Pred design is the least of my worries, so I don't really care if I convince you or not...

You seem pretty certain and unconvinceable, and this being just a matter of taste, not fact, I see no point in this discussion... I compared the photos and got to a conclusion... the only question is 'Am I watching this with an open mind or is my mind already made up and all I am doing is legitimise it, manipulating facts to illustrate my POVs...'? This is all that matters, this inward questioning of our motivations and that is how we get to the facts, by focusing on the facts and not our preconceived ideas...

So, instead of wasting time and energy trying to convince me you're right, better ask yourself the same questions I am constantly asking myself: "Am I being openminded or am I just a slave to my ego...?"

I ask those questions all the time and I only state my POV's AFTER making that mind-training... I concede when I am wrong...And this has not been the case... The more info you cross, the clearer your grasp of things will be... Most of my POVs have solid grounds, not on a whim... That is why I present you with all the reasons that back those statements... You should do the same... Fact-based POV's can be discussed, taste-related ones cannot...
Unless you have explanations why you like some things and dislike others and present evidence to support them...

Take my advice for what is worth...


PS - Sorry about yet another long post, guys... But I had to say all this... ;)

I'm happy with the new pic of the alien. Much better than what we got earlier.  Also, I think the brown looks better on this alien and it does look like how the aliens in Aliens paint job looks like in normal light.

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Quote from: Dekapitator on Apr 22, 2007, 02:41:03 PM

Quote from: Lovely Man on Apr 22, 2007, 02:25:48 PM
It doesn't really tell us anything about the Predator that we don't already know from other pictures.

That's not the point. What I said didn't contain anything that presumes that what you posted (that the pic shows us something new). The point is that

Quoteit's big enough to see the Predators' main characteristics such as head size, dreadlocks length and overall muscularity.

QuoteI doubt we'd be able to tell anything, in fact, if it wasn't for the pictures that came before it.

You'd have to be blind not to see that it is different from the AvP Preds in terms of head size and muscularity. Even on that small picture it's clear this is an "old school Predator", not like the AvP ones.

Dekapitator, the AVP Preds were fully armoured and muscled as hell (in the featurettes, they showed both the suits and the stunt men walking about in them, and they looked pretty muscled.. Also, the armour made them bulkier... but I suppose the materials now used in AVP2 (silicon instead of foam latex) aloows for a thinner and pliable skin, enabling more mouvement and a more elegant figure... Though the first pic and this one, in comparison with Pred 1 and espcially Pred 2, still looks heavy... Ad the head is too large, dude... the thinner the Pred suit is, the bigger the head becomes... and it sure looks big comparing to the body... check the Pred 1 pic when the Predator switches off his cloaking device after coming out of the water... check the balance between his body and his head... Then compare it with the small pic of the Pred in the sewers...see the differences...?

Now youre the one who has to take a closer look at the Pictures, if you look at the avp2 pred from the Predator 2 cover you see that the body is not bulky, and i dont see what you got about the head, everything about the damn thing is fine, all good balanced, body is skinny and not too much armour, perfect in my oppinion, and every Pred is different, different colors on each one and different bodys, these are Predators and not Aliens, like stan winston sais on the Predator 2 special edition, theyr like snakes, theyre the same species, but different snakes have differences in colour and strukture. And i think thats very good, anderson missed that part too, in avp theyre all the same, same bodys, same armour, you just dont have the feeling that each one have a history, and thats just the stupiest thing because this is what makes every Predator unique.

First of all, a cover that could well be a montage is no proof whatsoever... That and the small pic only show a big head, comparing with the Pred 1 and Pred 2 body... And that is all  have to say about that... this is a POV thing... to some it looks big, to others, don't... and to each his own...

Now, second remark, the Stan Winston's remark is a good dodge, but not enough... The xeno in Alien1, Alien3, Alien4, AVP, all have domed heads, from HUMAN hosts... ALiens was the only one that introduced the un-domed ones... So, OF COURSE Stan Winston will defend his Queen, no pun intended... he was the designer of the new Xenos (remember, Giger was not even an advisor on 'Aliens', and he would never change his original design without a good explanation...and the 'easier for stunt men' reason would not matter to Giger, who is an artist, not a practical person...so that would have increased thealready heavy mood on 'Aliens' set...)

I am doiong some lateral thinking and that is how you put things into perspective... Of course Stan Winston will justify his departure from Giger's designs by comparing a bee-like Hive-minded insectoid xenos with snakes...!  LOL

Third, the masks differentiated them, so did the Grid idea to distinguish the Xeno that killed two Preds from the rest... So i dn't get what PWA did wrong about that... He individualised the Preds good enough, with the different masks, and the skull heads in the Chopper one, and also the Xeno character from the rest... What else couild he do that would not get too intrusive...?

So, I am not the one that needs to take a good look at the pictures... I see just fine... And I seem to remember saying you to compare the Pred 1 and Pred 2 with the AVP2 Pred to illustrate my point... but you did not do that, did ya...?

So, until you do, there is nothing more to discuss... Comparing is how you distinguish, hindsight instead of shortsight... That is my motto... And again, the Pred design is the least of my worries, so I don't really care if I convince you or not...

You seem pretty certain and unconvinceable, and this being just a matter of taste, not fact, I see no point in this discussion... I compared the photos and got to a conclusion... the only question is 'Am I watching this with an open mind or is my mind already made up and all I am doing is legitimise it, manipulating facts to illustrate my POVs...'? This is all that matters, this inward questioning of our motivations and that is how we get to the facts, by focusing on the facts and not our preconceived ideas...

So, instead of wasting time and energy trying to convince me you're right, better ask yourself the same questions I am constantly asking myself: "Am I being openminded or am I just a slave to my ego...?"

I ask those questions all the time and I only state my POV's AFTER making that mind-training... I concede when I am wrong...And this has not been the case... The more info you cross, the clearer your grasp of things will be... Most of my POVs have solid grounds, not on a whim... That is why I present you with all the reasons that back those statements... You should do the same... Fact-based POV's can be discussed, taste-related ones cannot...
Unless you have explanations why you like some things and dislike others and present evidence to support them...

Take my advice for what is worth...


PS - Sorry about yet another long post, guys... But I had to say all this... ;)

You didnt get my point...
I was talking about that each Predator is his own creation, and to difference them just with the masks is pretty poor, because the creature itself has to be different, and avp just showed them with the same bodies, same armour and all that stuff, and thats not enough, that is another proof that anderson didnt care for the Predators at all, the Aliens is another species from another planet, so they dont have to be different, but Predators have to because that was the thing what made them so great, each one is his own with his own history, and iam a predator fan for 10 years now and i know the designs pretty clearly, and when i saw the Picture it was like theyre back again, and colin said that the Predator 2 cover with the avp2 pred is a nice shot of him, so thats a proof that hes not bulky again, so that statement is out of the world now.
And the reason why the Aliens have the dome or not can just be the same thing as the Predators, maybe its the dna from the queen, if the eggs come from the Predator ship ,that will mostly crash, that doesnt have to mean that the eggs come from the avp queen, but from a queen that is reproducing Aliens with no domes, but that cant be right??? omg, that has to be a continuity error, all aliens have to be the same, youre thinking you know all of this franchise, just because it wasnt explained in one of the movies, you have to think in a wider range.

Johnny, so you say that the Pred from AVP2 has a different design...? The mask is similar to Pred 2... if not identical, without the spikes and all... So what is so new about it anyway...?

The Celtic, the Chopper and Scar all had different helmets to distinguish them from each other... And for script purposes, only Scar and celtic had the most screen time, though Chopper was present in the first high-resolution promo shot, remember... the one with Grid...? So, we never ever saw Predators together before, and you still criticise AVP for doing one of the many approaches it could do with it...!

Also, the only major difference between Pred 1 and 2 was a more pronounced jaw in Pred 2's helmet... not much else... the cannon  too was different... just the gear...

Actually I would prefer Chopper to be Scar, because it had a far greater helmet design... not sure about the crania sticking up behind him though...  ;D

SO, they all had distinctive marks about them, you're just being stubborn about this...

And forgive me for saying this, but until i see a GOOD pic of the Predator, in REAL light, Colin's statement is worth his credibility, which so far is none... he is selling his product, so his integrity will be in question until he can PROVE with ACTUAL photos in HIGHER resolution and FULL BODY that statement... Until he does, his statements don't prove anything, and his credibility still to be established... I am a lawyer's son and almost went to Law school myself, so I give a lot of importance to HARD EVIDENCE...

Until he does, I don't buy into anything he says... he is a Fox employee, nonetheless and the main person interested in selling the movie and selling it well, THAT is why he is pposting... he thinks that his word alone is enough, and from what I have read so far, many are buying into his words, so...

Again I am proudly alone, it seems...

Why doesn't Fox send individual high resolution photos of both the Pred and the Xeno... to prove they're being truthful...?

Fishy... very fishy indeed...

Speaking of fish... getting hungry... see you later guys...  ;D :D








     

I'm confused on what you two are bitching about. The Bros. Said they are going back to the roots and if you watch the original predator film, the head actually does seem a little big.

I love the new Predator look just as much as the new Alien look. Very Predator 2/Aliens thing we have with us here.

"Also, the only major difference between Pred 1 and 2 was a more pronounced jaw in Pred 2's helmet... not much else... the cannon  too was different... just the gear..."





The mask was different,the temperament was different,the skin color was different,the face is different.Every single predator is different from the others,he's unique.Pretty much like the humans.So i really like what i have saw for now on the predator's look and the aliens seem to be nice too.In the begining i wasn't confident that ADI could do a nice job after the first AVP,but i have to admit that the creatures look as near like the originals as it possible.Besides the pics we have saw are not so clear,we can't see the whole creatures,but there are still so good.ADI is going in to the right direction,they will never be Stan Winston,but they don't stay on the same level.The creatures design proves it totally.

Quote from: SiL on Apr 21, 2007, 09:00:55 AM
When it comes to this, people call me a purist, but I don't think that's fair.

I appreciate everything that went into the original design. The aesthetic, the sexual undertones, the uniqueness, its ultimate composition. So much went into creating something that was new and frightening, easily one of, if not the, best creature design to grace the screen. It was bizarre and twisted, a biomechanical parody of the human form.

And now it looks like a shit that gained sentience. A tube here or there. The second jaw, a slightly elongated head. Drool, a tail, protrusions on the back. But now it looks so far removed from what it was I just can't look at it and think 'That's the Alien'. It's not. It's a knock-off, a parody, something that belongs in a B-movie ripoff.

There end my two cents.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh  8)

yes i agree!  ;D and Camerons Alien creature was good to.

If it the same design as the earlier photos - and it looks like it is - then nothings changed.  While I admit the creature looks better from this angle - it's still the worst Alien design thus far.

Can't imagine why people are creaming their pants about it...

Quote from: gameoverman on Apr 22, 2007, 01:25:42 PM
You can't even see that there's a droopy upper lip.  Take a closer look - that part is in shadow, and it's hard to make out any details.  So there's no use complaining until we see a clearer picture.

No use complaining without proof?  That's all we do around here!  ;)

Anyway, I can see the shape of the lip just fine.  It's the same as AvP.  Still got the 'vampire teeth' thing going on, too.  Not a big fan of that either.

The Pred I have no probs with at all.  I think he  looks swell.  I just hope that the Aliens will be shot in a manner more akin to "ALIENS" and will help disguise any design issues I have with them.  :)

I am happy with the new designs. The Alien looks real, and mean. The predator from what I can see is a vast improvment, as long as Ian can move in the suit, it will look great.

On IMDb.

Me: "ADI think pointy shapes are menacing. Hence why the head doesn't look like a penis any more."

Greg Strause:" I'd beg to differ with you on this one. Once you see the back of the head, you'll be taking this post down. "

Would that we could in fact see the back of the head.

Or indeed any of the head beyond the two pics we've seen so far.

The stolen suit pictures show the back of the head, but it looks flat. May just be the shitty quality.

Am I the only one who really doesn't go for the alien design in "Resurrection" and "AVP"?  They just look.... I dunno... just like more typical badass movie monsters...  I LOVED the designs in "Alien" and "Alien 3".  The creatures in "Aliens" were really cool too.  I'm really happy they're going back to the ribbed head look because I think it will bring back the feel of "Aliens" a little.

...But people have said they love the look from "Resurrection" and "AVP" so they love how they're bringing that look back to the "Aliens" design...  I'm personally a little annoyed.  Seeing how the three latest films are using this new look, I don't think we're going to get the gorgeous Giger originals back.

(I'm not saying I hate the look of the more recent aliens, I just prefer the originals.  This won't affect the film much for me.  ...I hated "Resurrection" for many different reasons.) :P

The original is far and away the best, but I've never really disliked ADIs work.  First time for everything though.

I'd like 'em more if I didn't have to think they were the Alien.

Personally I love the alien3 runner. My favorite design.

I love all the aliens they are beautiful. I alwayse kinda thought the Alien design from the frist film looked like a guy in a suit, but thats just me.

Quote from: SiL on Apr 23, 2007, 04:40:29 AM
The stolen suit pictures show the back of the head, but it looks flat. May just be the shitty quality.

Hmmm... Im really eager to see the back of the head now. The piping is more similar to Aliens than it is AvP, which means it'd look far better rounded like a penis at the back than the flat back. Meh, I'll take Greg's word for it...

Quote from: Champonser on Apr 22, 2007, 08:33:52 PM
"Also, the only major difference between Pred 1 and 2 was a more pronounced jaw in Pred 2's helmet... not much else... the cannon  too was different... just the gear..."





The mask was different,the temperament was different,the skin color was different,the face is different.Every single predator is different from the others,he's unique.Pretty much like the humans.So i really like what i have saw for now on the predator's look and the aliens seem to be nice too.In the begining i wasn't confident that ADI could do a nice job after the first AVP,but i have to admit that the creatures look as near like the originals as it possible.Besides the pics we have saw are not so clear,we can't see the whole creatures,but there are still so good.ADI is going in to the right direction,they will never be Stan Winston,but they don't stay on the same level.The creatures design proves it totally.

I couldnt say it better then that, youre right, not just the helmets were differnet, but the color of the body ans the structures, i have a production pic of Predator 2, you see them all in one picture, one Predator has even blue color tone to it!!!
Rioj....   you are saying shit on this one, so please stop posting crap if you even dont know the Predator really good, ok? Thank you.

Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Apr 23, 2007, 12:02:22 PM

Quote from: Champonser on Apr 22, 2007, 08:33:52 PM
"Also, the only major difference between Pred 1 and 2 was a more pronounced jaw in Pred 2's helmet... not much else... the cannon  too was different... just the gear..."

The mask was different,the temperament was different,the skin color was different,the face is different.Every single predator is different from the others,he's unique.Pretty much like the humans.So i really like what i have saw for now on the predator's look and the aliens seem to be nice too.In the begining i wasn't confident that ADI could do a nice job after the first AVP,but i have to admit that the creatures look as near like the originals as it possible.Besides the pics we have saw are not so clear,we can't see the whole creatures,but there are still so good.ADI is going in to the right direction,they will never be Stan Winston,but they don't stay on the same level.The creatures design proves it totally.

I couldnt say it better then that, youre right, not just the helmets were differnet, but the color of the body ans the structures, i have a production pic of Predator 2, you see them all in one picture, one Predator has even blue color tone to it!!!
Rioj....   you are saying shit on this one, so please stop posting crap if you even dont know the Predator really good, ok? Thank you.

I know it fine... And I have two words for you: 'screen filters'... And I was talking about helmets as an OUTSIDE DISTINCTION... I don't know what the face of AVP2 Predator looks like... DO YOU...?

Only one Predator in AVP showed his face... And on the outside, they all had distinctive aspects about them: the masks, the suits, the skulls on Chopper... And these distinctions were mentioned in the AVP Prod featurette... So I apologise if I take THEIR word over YOURS...

And Johnny... stay calm... I don't seem to be saying what you say is 'shit' so keep the level, OK... That's the mature thing to say...

The Alien has a better angle. Greg has given some good news. I know the Alien won't look like shit. That's good. According to Greg it will even have a change I really like.

Quote from: necrotard on Apr 23, 2007, 05:05:35 AM
I LOVED the designs in "Alien" and "Alien 3".

What is it about the A3 Alien that you like that the A:R/AvP Aliens lacked? They're quite similar.

I Prefer the Design of the Alien in the first movie.

Quote from: DB on Apr 25, 2007, 10:32:35 PM
The Alien has a better angle. Greg has given some good news. I know the Alien won't look like shit. That's good. According to Greg it will even have a change I really like.

Quote from: necrotard on Apr 23, 2007, 05:05:35 AM
I LOVED the designs in "Alien" and "Alien 3".

What is it about the A3 Alien that you like that the A:R/AvP Aliens lacked? They're quite similar.

I think it's partially the runner position, the way it moves all graceful like a jaguar.  And the back of the head is more rounded like the first film, while the newer aliens come to a more flat bottom in the back....  That flat, pointed back is part of what bothers me so much about the A4 and AVP designs...  That, and the more monstrous shape of the mouths and teeth.  The creature in the third film actually seems to have more human-shaped teeth, while the A4 and AVP teeth are much more pronounced to look like ferocious monsters.  The heads of the newer aliens seem stretched vertically a little bit too, to appear more... like... large and threatening...  It's hard to describe and I don't know if anyone else sees it, but when I look at the creatures made directly by Giger himself, the word gorgeous comes straight to mind... yet I don't get that feeling when looking at the newer movie-monsters.

The creatures also seem to be made of different materials or something... as the creatures from the first three films were always more convincing to me... (and that's just discussing the puppetry... not the horrible CGI...)

ALSO... Ridley Scott... James Cameron... David Fincher... three of my favorite directors... the third being my ABSOLUTE favorite director... I think that helped make them look a little more appealing as well.  I don't think many people would declare Jean-Pierre Jeunet or Paul Anderson to be better directors than those three geniuses.

Quote from: necrotard on Apr 26, 2007, 01:02:55 AM
I don't think many people would declare Jean-Pierre Jeunet or Paul Anderson to be better directors than those three geniuses.

Have you not seen Jean-Pierre Jeunet's other movies? There is no way you can compare the guy to Anderson.

Haven't seen Very Long Affair, but Delicatessen, City of Lost Children and Amelie are all brilliant.  Way out of Anderson's league.

I'm not trying to compare him to Anderson, just Scott, Cameron, and Fincher.  All I meant was the first few films being way better probably helped make the creatures look better to me. :P

I also don't like the freakishly large and slender hands on the newer aliens.
And I don't think the tails were shaped the same before either.  I hate the elaborate... fin... look.  I dunno, it looks like something on a fish.  It doesn't look like a Giger creation.
Gah... tons of those little things just bother me about the newer aliens.  Going back to the ribbed look should be different.  I'm glad they're using that.

Quote from: necrotard on Apr 26, 2007, 04:24:17 AM
I also don't like the freakishly large and slender hands on the newer aliens.
And I don't think the tails were shaped the same before either.  I hate the elaborate... fin... look.  I dunno, it looks like something on a fish.  It doesn't look like a Giger creation.
Gah... tons of those little things just bother me about the newer aliens.  Going back to the ribbed look should be different.  I'm glad they're using that.

It's a fresh change to the modern alien designs (the last movies where ADI has worked on the aliens) to bring back the ridged heads.I hope we can see an other pic soon,that reveals the whole alien body....

I too have always liked the suit for the alien in Alien 3, I really don't know why, I just gravitate towards it.

Yeah, Aliens is my Favorite movie out of the series but I prefer the design in the first Alien.

I dont understand how you poeple dont like the ribbed head look.  Looks way more aggresive and flows way better with the body.
The alien body is so rough and ridget then they have this perfectly smooth head.  It doesnt look right and is out of wack.
Seeing the wole body of the alien in aliens it just looks so right.  I have the mcfarlane aliens toy and i love it.  Was gonna get the alien one to but It just looks wrong.  Doesnt look believable.

Quote from: Spoon on May 01, 2007, 12:52:38 PM
I dont understand how you poeple dont like the ribbed head look.  Looks way more aggresive and flows way better with the body.
The alien body is so rough and ridget then they have this perfectly smooth head.  It doesnt look right and is out of wack.
Seeing the wole body of the alien in aliens it just looks so right.  I have the mcfarlane aliens toy and i love it.  Was gonna get the alien one to but It just looks wrong.  Doesnt look believable.

Maybe you should look at the basis for the creature.  The first movie is pretty much entirely based on the artwork of H.R. Giger.  He designed the creature in Alien and Alien3, as well as the Derilect and the Space Jockey it held.  The ribbed head looks nothing like one of his creations.  I'm not saying this makes it bad.  I really love the ribbed head and I'm so glad they're using it in this film, as I feel it will bring back the feel of Aliens a little bit, but maybe you'd appreciate the original creature more after seeing the basis for it.

Here's a gallery of paintings he's done, (though it's nowhere near all of them):
http://www.system75.com/gallery/giger/giger1.htm (http://www.system75.com/gallery/giger/giger1.htm)

I just think the smooth heads carry the feel of his work a lot more... the bizarre, dark, & haunting, yet.... like... graceful and exotic look.  I know, I sound like a total douche right now, :P but he's the only artist whose work I actually sit and admire.  I've never seen anything like it.

Don't know if anybody has noticed but the images on the Design Studio Press site have been censored now: http://www.designstudiopress.com/new_site/book_pages/pics_avp2/book_avp2.html

mmmmmmmmm? strange?

If you listen closley I think you can just hear the sound of someones Ass getting kicked.......  ;D

Quote from: Darkness on May 04, 2007, 03:13:37 PM
Don't know if anybody has noticed but the images on the Design Studio Press site have been censored now: http://www.designstudiopress.com/new_site/book_pages/pics_avp2/book_avp2.html

heh, i wonder why THAT happened...?

Quote from: Darkness on May 04, 2007, 03:13:37 PM
Don't know if anybody has noticed but the images on the Design Studio Press site have been censored now: http://www.designstudiopress.com/new_site/book_pages/pics_avp2/book_avp2.html

Thats OK with me, at least we've got the pictures!  ;)

(I don't know why they censored the first AvP pictures at the bottom, we know what they look like anyway!)

maybe because of what directors said about the title of the movie, maybe in the book they putted AVP2: Survival of the fitest

 :D What the hell??  Every horror/sci-fi site on the web has already posted the pictures in news articles.  I found it funny how they always had the cover censored... since the cover image is a publicity photo from the FIRST film that we've already seen.  Maybe they ment to censor the book pages in the first place instead of the cover.

well it looks like the pred from 1 or 2 is gonna be in it which i find is good but im hoping to dear god the jungle one and chopper is in it cause he had such a small part chopper did and the jungle pred well we all no he is the best well i hope you guys no and there are more pictures out there

i like the new alien design.its mad but a little weird in a way though.
The tecture is a little weird i liked the black colour the best.
but
all and all
its great! ! !

On the Pre-order page for the book, there's a bigger picture of the Alien:
https://www.designstudiopress.com/new_site/reserve_book/reserve_avp2.php
(https://www.designstudiopress.com/new_site/reserve_book/avp2_pics.jpg)

Nice find, wonder what's with the purple on the alien though?

SiL told me about the link. Thought nothing of the picture though.  ::) Newb.

Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Jul 14, 2007, 10:29:09 PM
Nice find, wonder what's with the purple on the alien though?

  Lighting.

Same explanation as why an otherwise dirt-gray pigeon can appear to have brilliant metallic violet, green, and magenta coloring.

Hmm, it doesn't look like a light though, like they purposely made the alien like that. A PURPLE light source on the set? ::) I think Colin and Greg have something up their sleeves.

Hopefully we will find out at Comic-Con.

Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Jul 15, 2007, 04:09:38 AM
Hmm, it doesn't look like a light though, like they purposely made the alien like that. A PURPLE light source on the set? ::) I think Colin and Greg have something up their sleeves.

Hopefully we will find out at Comic-Con.

You always think that the brothers have something up their sleeves....  ;D

I don't know what the purple is either - It wasn't like that this morning when I first saw it.

Ah, the power of suggestion.  As I said before, it is simply the magic of iridescence, where upon light is reflected off a shiny surface-- be it Alien funk or Pigeon feathers and is then reflected back in a myriad of beautiful colors, most commonly metallic green and violet/purple.  If anything, it adds a nice touch of reality to the creature.

Looks damn nice.

Well, I'll take your guys' word for it.

Quote from: The Ultimate Predator on Jul 15, 2007, 07:11:45 AM
Looks damn nice.

Huh, doesn't that head look brown to you...? :o

I mean, even with the lighting, the translucent head looks brown, doesn't it...?  ???

Check the other side of the head, without the light on it...!  :o

You only need to look one post above yours Yutani at Pvt Hcks Signature Pic.

Same deal , brown Alien, from Aliens.

Its a bit like Car Paint, It depends the way the light hits.

The suits in 'Aliens' were black, if memory serves right. The lighting can affect that. The scene where Ripley and Hicks are in the elevator and one suddenly closes, splashing acid, shows it under strong lighting and black in colour.

In my view, they should be black, but with a very slight and economical application of an electric blue sheen upon them. It would be just enough to catch the light in such a way as to make their presence so much darker than it usually has been.

thats what i'm saying the suits were black, but alot of the time the aliens looked brown, like the one in the picture i was talking about, I'm sure the one that opens the door and tastes some shotgun was brown looking aswell. 

I actually like it when they are off colour, Ie silver/brown/red tints, The black in Alien Rez was really too black, if you know what i mean! lol

Quote from: highlandpred on Jul 16, 2007, 10:40:54 AM
You only need to look one post above yours Yutani at Pvt Hcks Signature Pic.

Same deal , brown Alien, from Aliens.

Its a bit like Car Paint, It depends the way the light hits.

I know the lighting can change the perception of colour, but it just seems strange that in both sides of the head (the lighted left side and the unlighted right side, both look brownish...?

I remember that in Batman and Robin, the suit was purple and in the movie it was black...So I know that lighting changs a grea deal, but it just felt weird that on nboth sides they both look brown...

Or am I color-blind and never noticed before...? ;D ;)

the best example is the Car paint like I said, I have a black car, but the actual paint colour is Metalic Purple, you can see it when the sun is shining, but you'd swear its black in normal light.

It may be a new Material they are using with the new heads? Colin ALready confirmed they are silver black, so thats cool.

Dind´t Colin said that the movie will have purple colors? anyways, i would love to see the photo of the new predator bigger too... :-\

I must admit, the ribbed pattern is an improvement.  Still looks like crap, though.  The Pred in the lower-right corner is from Predator, and the top one pretty much confirms the leaked pic took place in the sewers.

Definately. That's in the sewers. Poor Ian Whyte. But yay!

Love that shot of the Pred in the sewers.  Thanks for uploading the pic.

Looks pretty cool.

I think that shot of the alien looks f*** awsum!   ;D  

Yeah, the alien looks cool. Isn't it possible to make the picture of the pred bigger with some program or something?

at last! we can breath......!   ;)     looking good, Alien looks improved, and pred sorted...  Happy with that, good result

Also! now we only need some form of photo equipment akin to Decard from Bladerunner and we could zoom in and read what that paragraph says.......   ;D  

I hope they won't use the "Survival of the Fittest" tagline for the movie. The Pred's looking good, but the Alien kinda looks like a "brainless beast" IMO.

This is the coolest Alien design since Aliens IMO, and the Predator is looking really badass in that shot in the sewers, i couldnt be happier with the creature designs, really badass both, Alien and predator   ;D  

I like that still better

I bought the first one, signed version. Great read. Will definately pick this up.

The pred looks bad-ass and the alien looks a lot more violent and menacing than its avp1 counterpart! huzzah

Now thats what I'm talking about! Thats how the predator should look. And the alien looks hot as hell too.    ;D  

WOW   ;D  they did an exelent job on both ....i think im getin emotinal there awesome   :'(  

WOW if thats what the AVP 2 alien looks like im fine with that but whats happening with the predalien im anxious to find out what it looks like.

Thats f*** awesom... The Alien(s) looks very cool...and angry   ;D  

dang that pred looks cool in sewers and the alien looks really killa and pimped and also is more tanner a little

The pic in the bottom right is from AVP1 though cause that's Scar with the Alien jumped onto his back

Well, some new pics at last...  First of all, can't make out the Pred, though it looks the sewers allright (see, told ya...) and the Alien is still a bad concept until someone explains why the different Alien heads if the hosts are humans... unles it is there for fan-pleasing, which is my guess of course... Also, the Alien head looks fake...there isvery little drool which, as you all know, is what makes the suit and Alien head organic-like... I can't make out the Pred but the Alien head still concerns me... Why the different heads, especially all coming from huma hosts...? And fi if they are drones, the it must be a Queen somewhere, right...? being the Xenos from Aliens drones and all...?

And guys, even without the abulky armour, the Pred still looks bulky...   ???  

I love the new Alien. Since I like Aliens and AVP, it is a great combination of the two.

I love the new Alien, it looks like they took the best from AVP and Aliens.

This is victim of a photoshop))) NO ADI BOOK)))

ADI book - 2004 year

And guys, even without the abulky armour, the Pred still looks bulky  The Pred looks bulky??? No way, the Preds shape is like p1 and2, we already seen that on the spanish Predator 2 cover that the avp2 pred is NOT bulky, and why are the Aliens bad looking? Theyr just the coolest thing.

Pred 1 and 2 was athletic and very elegant... check the Predator promo shots from Pred 2, for instance... It was a more proportioned Predator...This AVP2 Pred has an overlarge head, and is 'fatter' than kevin in that suit... just go back to the Pred 2 design and compare the two... I think the prob is the head... in Pred 1 and 2, only in some photos did the head look overlarge, but in Pred 2 the head was reduced to make a more balanced head and body... This Pred in this shot, though this is not a great photo, still trasnpires a havier, more muscled Predator and not the athletic, elegant Predator Kevin Peter Hall personified in Pred 1 and 2...   AND we still haven't seen the Predator's face... which will be more important than this fitness thing...

The Pred looks nice.  The Alien's meh. I can live with it, but it's nothing special. ADI's Alien looks better with the dome.

when is this book coming out????

Man RIJOENPIAL, nothing ever seems to satisfy you. Most of the time you post here you always have a negative thing to say. I dont know what you're talking about the pred being too bulky because the pred looks perfect, exactly the way it was in pred 1 and 2, and the alien looks fine. In my opinion, I think it looks better than the original.    ;D  

both of them are perfect    ::)  

Brown(ish)? ribbed aliens! That looks ten times better than the production still we got. See what post production can do guys...  This just hyped me up even more. The marketing engine has officially started    :)     But yeah, I do hope they explain why the aliens head is different. Either way I'm pleased with this!

Yeah...? Add the armour and you'll see the 'resemblance' with Pred 1 and 2...! Even in the first pic posted, it seemed larger than Pred 1... but whatever...   Hicks, it says right there on the linked page 'december 2007'..so you'll be eating your fingernails till then, I suppose...

I am a concerned fan, not a 'Yiipii' kind of fan...  I want the previous material respected, I want Fox to stop treating fans like sheep, and I sure want AVP2 to be more than prosthetics looking good or not so good...  So, sue me...   >:(     ???     ::)  

Why does the alien look like crap it looks bad ass and menacing to me.

your one of the true fans RIJOENPIAL! im like you, i want them to respect the whole universe of alien and predator! them pics are really nothing i want somenoe to blow them up so we can take a look at them properly

Maybe the new Alien design is the Predalien?  Just a guess.....

So were not true fans if we like the new pred and aliens?    :-\     ???  

What the hell? Why would it be the predalien?

Well Fox might not take the video game design into consideration, and just take the original Alien design and modify it a little to make their version of the Predalien.  like I said this is just a guess...

You must really be smoking a decent sized rock if you think there is more muscle and a bigger head on this pred. Honestly you whine like a 5 year old girl. From the 3 pics i have seen the only beef i had with any of them was the first one due to the aliens hands. If you were a true Predator fan you wouldnt be able to do anything except send praise to the brothers for what they accomplished. However your just a bickering nit picker that will more than likely bash this film till it is released.

Alien looks incredible, I don't know how you can say that looks like crap.  And the pred looks badass.

like i sais on imdb forums i want to run around the street naked.

I agree, these pictures should be things the fans can wack it too...and they are. Theyre just incredible.

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Can't really tell what the pred looks like but the alien looks really cool.  This pred may look "bulkier" because it's a different actor in the suit.  Kevin P Hall was really tall and built like a basketball player.

Yautja Thei-De, you took the words right out of my mouth. That is something I see Ia lot with some people here. Wining and never being happy of what they see. The bros seem to be doing a good job so far. The pred looks nice and the alien does too. Although I still dont know what RIJOENPIAL's problem is with the pred being too bulky. OPEN YOUR EYES, the pred doesnt look bulky, it looks just fine. However I do have to agree with you on the head because you have to admit, it is pretty big, but other than that the pred looks great.    ;D  

Predboy, I see it just fine... I am not the one saying the movie is great JUST because the Pred and Xeno designs are to your liking... I am placing things int the correct places... You and Yautja Thei-De are the ones bashing people for thinking differently than you... And thank goodness I think differently from you... I wash the wool pulled over my eyes... You apparently do not... A you both show why Fox is ripping these franchises to shreads: 'give them new costumes and the 'Aliens' design, but don't give them anything substantial like a story that makes sense and a movie worthwhile...'   You like the designs, I think they are just  fan-pleasers and not what is more important about the movie... But you seem to be contented with your pre-conceptions there, so I'll leave you two alone...     ;D  

RIJOENPIAL, Im not bashing people for thinking differently from me, Im just saying that a lot of people are saying that the pred looks bulky and Im simply saying that it doesnt. And im still concerned about this movie like everyone else here. I know the first one was crap because of what anderson did to it and im still hoping that the bros dont do the same to this one. All Im saying is that they are on the right track for making this movie satisfy fans and bringing these two dealdly creatures back to their roots and that people should be happy with the desighns because that was one of the main problems with avp.

What does it matter if they do the designs right but rip continuity to shreads...?  This setting (Aliens on a small town) is EXACTLY what PWA avoided to do...Yes, it can be done on Earth, but not on POPULATED Earth... !    :o   This should be the main focus of fans, and not if the Preds and Aliens look fine or not...This is not a fashion d

Alien looks so awesome, straight out of "Aliens"

The Alien looks great to me, probably the best design. It looks threatning and scary, just what I want the Alien to look like. Well done Strause Bros...    ;)  

Ok i have to admit that I thought that the whole predator in the sewer idea was very stupid, but after seeing that screenshot it looks like the brothers are really pulling it off it looks great!

In case you didnt read what i put im still concerned about the movie. All im saying is that the bros are doing a good job on the costume desighns and are heading in the right direction. Now the next obstacle is to do a good job on the script.

It's actually quite a bit - And by that I mean a shitload and then some - different to the Aliens design, but it fits.

RIJOENPIAL wow, I've been reading your overly negative rants on here for a while now.  You come across as very stubborn and completely committed to your own ideas so I saw very little reason to engage you seeing you simply spout your opinion and have no real idea what's going on with the film.    However, you really seem to be reaching here and it's nice to see other fans calling you out.    This post is about pictures of the new designs and people are reacting to that plain and simple.  Because the reaction is positive you want to chastize them for not being true fans because you don't like the story?    That has nothing to do with it.  Fans can appreciate good art direction and design separately from the story.  I can't really stand the Star Wars prequels but the art direction is top notch.  I understand that great design and visuals don't make up for a crappy story but seeing the only leaked information given today was on the designs I think its fairly common sense that is what is on everyone's mind.

WOW! I really like the ridged-head design. Not sure about the light-green color though...I'm hoping the Aliens will be the characoal color again.  I can understand that some of the Alien fans will be against the ridged-head design and would want the Aliens to retain the "Giger" (which, as we all know IS the best design). however, the I believe the ridged-head design is just as menacing (if not, more) than the smooth-head design.  Maybe, there will be both ridged-head Aliens and smooth-head Aliens in AVP2.  To call the ridged-head design "crap" or "stupid" is your opinion. I have always liked that design and am glad Stan Winston/Jim Cameron decided to try that design in the first place.  As for the AVP2 Predator, well, I think the Predator design looks incredible. The pic of him in the sewers is too small to judge, but the lighting looks nice. I can't wait to see what the face looks like. I don't think we will be disappointed =)  The wait for a teaser or trailer is killing me!! I want to see some footage!!!  I have a feeling AVP2 will kick our ass!

Oh, in response to these new pics from the ADI book, Colin mentioned on the IMDB forums that "Survival of the Fittest" is NOT the title of the movie and that the title of the book needs to be changed.

Sorry for the spelling errors. I wish I could edit the comments.

Yay    ;D  

I watched Predator when i was 5 years old have been a fan every since. Dont ever say people lik eme are the reason these GREAT franchises have been ripped to shreds! I loathed, hated and despised the first movie more than anything because it took a great thing and made it sh*t. And you i am at a loss for words about you my last post sums up everything about you spending more time bashing this thing before you know jack sh*t about it all you have is negativity towards it. I DO CARE ABOUT THE STORY i honestly wish we had an AvP movie based off the original comic but i have to settle for what is given to us and you cannot deny that these 2 brothers have done a better job than Paul Anderson. And that can be said just looking at 3 pics of the film! And you are entitled to your opinion no matter how ignorant it may be. You speak of continuity so let me ask you this how many movies do you think can be made in the Alien franchise being based solely on a space or futuristic setting? These movies cant be made FOREVER which seems to be what you want perfect example of ignorance these films will be done one day until 30 years pass an someone remakes them. So if you truly were a fan you would stfu and be thankful we even get to see a sequel to that piece of trash given by Paul Anderson and thats all i have to say.

I completely agree with you. RIJOENPIAL you really need to shut up because you are trying to say that us REAL FANS are the reason why this franchise is falling apart when all we're doing is saying that you write negative comments and that we like the pics. Thats basically what we said and all of a sudden you come out and say we're the reason that the franchise is falling apart? Please, like this guy said, if you were a true fan you would be happy that this sequel is coming out at all. You are a true fan right?   ???   And you need to stop pinning the blame of Andersons failure on REAL FANS because all wer're doing is appreciating true art work on the creature costumes.

Pvt. Hicks im not saying that your not a real fan mate, its just that people think that by a couple of pics the movie is gonna rock! i mean come on! please dont tell me that some fans will believe anything that they are told! what i crave for is a good story!!!! is that really hard??? im just hoping that this is the movie to bring back the Aliens and Predator to LIFE!!! come on!!!!!

I like the lighting on the Alien. Design, not so much, but it's certainly pretty. And fitting, seeing as it comes from the sewers.

I think the alien is tan because it blends in well with the sewer environment. Look at the sewer the predator is in, and look at the alien. They both have that some mucky, gritty tan look. I love it.   Just like with every other alien movie, the aliens always blend in with their surroundings so they are very difficult to spot.   The directors are awesome for realizing this and making their aliens match perfectly with the look of the film.

I think it's very strange no one has noticed that the alien seems to have eyes... EYES!!! Isn't that shinny thing an eye???  That would kill the alien concept, mostly... Im sure Im not the only one who thinks they are 1000% more terrifying because of the lack of eyes...

Colin Strause just debunked you on the IMDb.  Also, if you look at the original production still you'll see that there are no eyes.

They most certainly don't have eyes in AvP2.

Back to old school Predator, I love it!    ;D  

Yautja Thei-De, first of all, 'you cannot deny that these 2 brothers have done a better job than Paul Anderson...'...? Man, I rest my case her and now... And you say I am the hasty judgment guy... Someone who just because of the marketing posting by the Bros, because of the pics that show less than show more, think this is a better movie than PWA's, really should talk...  Instead of contradicting what i said, you actually sank deeper... so be more careful there...   I am not the one STILL giving the benefit of the doubt to Fox after all the stunts she did with the Alien and now the AVP franchise... I am definitely NOT the one who says they are still reserving judgment AND at the same time say this 'from what i've seen, the Bros, did a better job than PWA...' And you know that how...? On the SB words alone...?   Uau, the age of innocence is still here, after all...     ::)  

The designs are just the easy part: they extensively know the 'Aliens' design is more liked by the fans and they know that this Predator, without the bulky armour, will look more elegant, despite the fact he is still too heavy to seem agile and fast... The face, I don't know and don't particularly care, because this is just sideshow... I don't see any info coming out about the rally important aspects of the movie: the story and synopsis... Fox knows the December release could favour them, but could also make fans too impatient and also lose the hype and momentum if they don't let the info out in small drops... That is what they are doing and to tell you the truth,  I am not at all impressed with this 'out of the manual' marketing antics... Where is a synopsis...? Where is a trailer...? Why the late release...? By my calculations, they can do the marketing and post-prod at the same time... They are doing it already...

They are doing their marketing by convincing fans directly, on IMDB forums and here too...  And it seems they can save a LOT of money by doing this instead of big ad campaigns, especially because only the fans are showing willingness to go see this sequel...and it is a much easier audience to convince than the mainstream ones...     ;D  

Of course the Story and the synopsis are very important if not the, the story in avp was good in my oppinion, but the creature designs werent, so this is the first thing that can make the film good, the creatures, and that is what this thread is about, the creatures... so we know the creatures are looking great in this movie, so that problem is out of the world now, now we can go for the story and all the things, but suing the brothers and fox for just releasing new pictures and not a story sinopsis and a trailer is a little stupid, and doesnt mean that the creatures look great and the rest will be shit.

Cool. The alien looks better than in that early pic of it.   ;D  

So, knowing what the story will be about is stupid...And they did not release any photos apart from the first one, otherwise we would be having higher-resolution ones than the tisy bitsy ones we got so far since then...  And you have to have coherence while posting your POVs... I am 'suing' the Bros for throwing sand to the fans eyes, and not be doing what they should... By now, we would be having AT LEAST a synopsis of the movie, being them so proud of it and all...   These pics are mere sideshow to keep fans contented and buy Fox more breathing space until the next rain drop they release... And that is how you manipulate fans... not rocket science there... 'Give fans what they want, but on our terms' crap... It is amazing people are still buying into this old strategy... Oh well, I seem to be the only one saying 'be careful with the precipice',  while everyone else is walking towards it looking at the sky instead...' So be it...

Stupidity is to go with the flow, not look before you leap... And the same person who says this:  "...the story in avp was good in my oppinion, but the creature designs werent, so this is the first thing that can make the film good, the creatures...'   ...thinks my remarks are stupid... Go figure...  Very interesting reasoning there ...      :D     And your interpretation of what I said is ludicrous... The designs are worthless without a story... It is just for show, and not what will make it or break it for the movie... It is statements like that that sends chills down my spine and prove that fans are definitely NOT the best judges... Like women discussing soap operas...      ::)  

End of argument, if they aliens were to grow wings and start flying, i bet my house all of us on here would go see it...  Rijoenpial, you seem to forget that this franchise is owned by fox, run by them and also paid for by them.......? we have no say what so ever, we can only give our feedback...   a bit like what lucas done with star wars 1/2/3, we 90% of fans could have written 3 better movies? but we cant, because we are the cattle with the cash, just like you will be when you line up with your $5 bucks to get in.................or will you decide when the script lands on your front door......?   ;D  

Lookin' good...lookin' REAL good

Actually, highland, you and all the fans have a say...  Just try to boycott the first weekend and you will see how much power the  fans have...  Fox is all about money, right? WHOSE money...? YOURS! So if you want them to respect you, demand some respect from them...  If ALL the fans would boycott the first weekend proceeds, you would seee Fox peeing their pants...! The ticket-buyers are the ones with the power, not FOX... If you demand they respect the franchises by doing wht you can, which is NOT give them your money, THEN the will learn and see more clearly...  Just try it...wait till the end of week...meanwhile, read some reviews from critics you respect... and then go see it... I am sure if the first-weekend proceeds plummett, they will stop treating fans like cattle...  Make your voice be heard... That is all I am saying...  I am not saying do not go see the movie at all... JUST wait till mid-week and then go see it if you must...   Just make them sweat a little...!   ;)  

I know what you say has some truth behind it, but lets face it, the fact the we are all on here every 5 minutes for an update means again 90% of us will go see it without blinking an eye.   We also have to remember the fans probably make up less than half (probably even less than that) of the proceeds, other wise there'd be 1000s of us on here instead of the 100 on here.    I agree with what you are saying, but sometimes we have to let go when something is gone..   Were never going to get Alien or Predator back, and thats the truth.   But the brothers can have a dam good try!    :)  

About time, I can finally let that breath out. The scene in the sewer is going to be smashing. Yay the Predator takes his helmet off in this and it looks as if the Strauss's got the Mandibles right.

I hope the sewers is where the Predator first fights the Predalien    ;D  

Yes, the sewers is where that would take place. And I believe the first fight with the predalien, is also the last. ;)

I need to do a titled discussion just for RIJ, over in the forum, so that I can reply to all the accusations they've thrown at me, the last few times and which I have not had the chance to reply to. :)  For now, however, I would like to point out that none of the images have been officially 'sanctioned'. The main one was leaked out and they commented that they were surprised it had done so and would have preferred it did not, specifically because it was not lit in the right way. Here, similarly, is probably just someone at the general merchandise department in the studio, showing some random picture for suppliers who might be interested in carrying the book for purchase in future.

The publicity effort has not yet begun and, it should be stressed, has no need to. Not as of yet. It's far too early!  We already have a basic synopsis of what it's about. We're not going to be spoon-fed things such as confirmation of if it's the original Predator ship which crashes, or if the outbreak occurs in some completely different way, because those are critical to the story. Those are technical details which will be discovered when you watch it.  We know it takes place in a town in contemporary times, with a very dark atmosphere. That's about as much as we knew about 'Alien' (extraterrestrial parasite break out on a spaceship) or 'Predator' (alien hunter stalks an elite military team). Unless you want to be spoiled before you see it, robbing the film of its mystery, it is better not to know much more.

The only thing not going to see this film would do is be interpreted as a sign that nobody is interested in seeing any new examples of the franchise, not that the studio took any wrong decisions with who they let helm the production.

I think the alien on here might be brown cause its a Runner (Dog) (or Ox) Alien like in the Alien 3.  I mean where would all the aliens come from they, have to be born, and they are in a town with a bunch of four legged creatures.  Though it might just be messed up lighting    :P   The pictures look awsome, i personally prefer the smooth top alien but this one is awsome too   :D   And the directors or someone, i forgot who, said there would be a wide variety of aliens when asked about the Predalien, so maybe they might put in one of the other aliens that showed up in toys, like a Superfacehugger (also in extended Alien 3), and my favorite, a Bull Alien   :P   Have my toy right here lol (plays for 30 minutes)   ;D  

BAh, i like da head of d alien but.....i like HR giger's original head design.(Translucent Cranium) So far da best alien 4 me is da 1 in ALien 3 da DogAlien like da guy above xD i got my mcfarlene DogAlien here not opened! i love it. But neways i can't wait 4 these avp2 preds n aliens figures to be released by mc farlene. The pred is awesum i giv it a 5/5. 4 d alien i giv a 4/5 although i like aliens better...

Hmm wait maybe i wil change my mind, lookin at da pic many times(the alien) seems so sweet. It looks so smooth n slimy, seems like da 1 in alien 4 n aliens combined. Man nice alien i lov it it giv it a 5/5 ALIENS 4 EVA!!!!

fu@#n Voodoo magic man......   ;D  

vvvvv   :)  

Hi Everyone, I Rrarely post here but I read everyones comments and I only ever post when I feel something really needs to be said. I still think, like Ive always thought (even with regard to AVP) that FOX's approach to this movie is ALL WRONG. Predator and Aliens (widely regarded as the best or most enjoyable of the respective franchises) had great elements of conspiracy and deceit. I feel an AVP movie should act like a sequel to both franchises, their characters and the histories each frachise built. Is RIJOENPIAL the only one who agrees that if this film wasnt approached like a typical action flick than it would be the first step to the AVP film we've all wanted to see for years?????

I am also a big fan of the original comics and while I think they truely are a masterpiece - I still feel that they do not answer the call that is in distress as an actual sequel to the original movies. I really think if one were to mix various elements of the original comics into a story about the history of the original characters to form a NEW plot ripe with conspiracy and action, THEN and only then, will the greatest of all AVP movies emerge from the shadows. Im writing a pet project AVP script in which I am tackling everything I have mentioned above - the only question is, will I be good enough to execute my idea! RIJOENPIAL - I like your way of thinking,its brutal and honest and frankly seems to lie in tandum with respecting the originals for more than the creature designs. (Im not saying anyone here is less of a fan) Everyone has different opinions all of which are as valid as mine or the next persons, and for this reason, I am happy to be in the company of die hard Alien and predator fans.

hmm thinkin bout it, da alien pretty much looks badass man. I think its cause of da cranium n da mouth with da curvy feriousity. ALIEN OWNS! Looks like da 1 in aliens combined wit da 1 in alien 4....

hmm seems like dis MAYBE n i mean MAYBE be4 predator 2 da movie. Firstly, da pred looks like da 1 in pred 2. Secondly pred 2 was on earth, nnnn da alien skull was on da ship 4 pred 2 so u know. Neways da pred is da best design i eva seen.( of all preds ) Da alien is da second, cause i like da DogAlien in alien 3 better. I like aliens with da translucent craniums, it makes it mysterious n also cool. Man if only if dis avp2 alien has da skull wit da translucent cranium, dat would be fckin cool!!!

OK, i c ppl hav a question. Y do aliens hav different skulls? i dun know either, but nowadays da original alien look like da 1 in aliens hence avp2. Even in games, the drone(original alien) has not translucent cranium which i dun like. But its aliens, wad can i say. I would like aliens with SOMETIMES wit da cranium n sumtimes no cranium. it might be cool. But i read sum alien stuff in dis sight n it says wen an alien is old, it will not hav d translucent cranium. But u gota know dat its giger dat created da original alien wit da translucent cranium. HR GIGER, I LOV UR ALIENS! he created ALIEN 1 alien, alien 3 n alien 4 aliens. All of em had da translucent skulls. Stan winston made d idea of dat non-translucent cranium 4 d alien, which i like but not as mkuch as da 1 with da translucent cranium.

'Predator 2' was set back in the days of 1997. :)  The problem with RIJ's views is that he or she has been presuming far too much, leading them to claim others are automatically giving Fox a licence to do whatever they want. I, however, have been warning against presuming anything: That goes for people who assume it must be good, as well as those, such as RIJ, who feel it is going to be bad, no matter what is done.  There is just not enough known about the story to assume anything about it.

YEEEEERRRRRRSSSSSSSSSs!!!!!!!    ;D  

I think they look great.Just wished the Predator photo was bigger myself....But it's better than nothing.

ALIENS VS PREDATOR: AVP2 is guna be a fckin great movie. The alien looks damn fckin sweet. Man da bros r awesum!!! They r true aliens n pred fans i can tell u dat. Paul is a sad bitch, he makes avp2 a PG 13 HELLO fanchises none of aliens n predators hav been PG be4. Paul is not even a true aliens n pred fan, i mean WTF TEENAGE PREDS SEEM SO BIG, BIGGERR THAN DA 1s IN PRED 1 n 2. Plus remember da part wen da little cute buster got outa da french girl, it was bleedin. Wen dat italian ass had a buster came outa him, they was no blood. Dat was jus sad man Paul pls GTFO of da avp sequels. If he comes bck 4 avp3, i m guna faint. It seems he wants to mess da aliens n preds legacy up....

Man d alien looks like da 1 in alien4 mixed wit da 1 in aliens.... Da pred looks like both in predator1 n 2.

On that new pic there was an alien. And that is chestburster-right? I looked that new pic for a some time, and i noticed - That chestburster is not come out from human (he doesnt look like one from A1,A2,A3,A4 and AVP) neither from predator(there is no that predator mouths look). Do you think that this one came out from some animal? Does this represents that option whit Facehugger attacking dog, cow or some other animal is posible. I hope that we will see runners one more time. Still it looks GREAT!!

=p I said that myself a couple of comments above.  That Alien could be runner or something else from another creature, though ihopr it has those holes and stuff to denote age if it is a runner, and there are young runners too, cause the orignal design with the smoothlike top was better.    :P   have my dog and bull alien ight here, hope there are bull aliens and maybe praetorian(s) =p

great pictures

OMG U GUYS! what is that between the original p1 phot and the p2 head phot? could it be avp2?

DANG sum of u guys r not a true alien fan....like me. I know, i KNOW 4 SURE dis alien at da top came from a human. U GUYS WANA BET??!! NP BIATCHES!!!

Allright lets bet biatch   ::)  

I was just watching AVP again and I have a theory   :P   Alot of people have asked why no other aliens survived and only the queen did(only one that fought pred) Maybe some other aliens did survive and thats how the aliens appear at the town where this is set in.  After all the Strause Brothers did say they would expand on the AvP storyline, derive from it, or something like that, cant remember   ::)    I would like to see Grid Alien fight again   :P   Maybe kill a couple humans, or 20   ;D   then fight a good tough match against the pred but of course get beat   :(   I wanna see Runners, or at least one   :P  

dude, dun't be a dumbfck. How can avp aliens look like da 1 in avp2. From blck to brown. What r u kiddin me? humans hav a chosen alien form...lmfao nope its in a new settin n its in colorado. U expect aliens to travel like so far is it? Sad alien fan. U gota be a pro alien fan man cmon THINk....like me.....   8)  

lol ur right dont no what got over me   :P  just wnna see grid again   :P     ::)     ;D  

The alien has a mouth and the predator has dreadlocks. That's good enough for me. I'm fine with that!    :D   I hope it will keep my mind occupied for at least 90 minutes so I can forget about real life for a while. That's why I go to this stuff.

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