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Title: Fan Reviews
Post by: ikarop on Feb 07, 2013, 03:27:34 PM
As some retailers have shipped the game early, those who have played the game are free to discuss it. You can use this thread to post your reviews in.

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Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: szkoki on Feb 07, 2013, 05:51:26 PM
the feedbacks i read says its a very week game, low ai, boring gameplay, not scary at all, disgrace, worse than avp2010

dunno about the difficulty level was played on


Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: PLEXI on Feb 07, 2013, 05:55:01 PM
Quotedunno about the difficulty level was played on
This shouldn't matter. A good game, is a good game regardless of the difficulty. Would it be possible to link us to this feedback or quote it so we can read the original?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: szkoki on Feb 07, 2013, 06:03:03 PM
they are not in english and they are so detailed as my translation


btw it was played on xbox360 , feedback after around 1 hour gameplay
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WinterActual on Feb 07, 2013, 06:04:47 PM
QuoteAbout 5 missions in and it's very average shooter. Mostly it only has nostalgia going for it...mostly.

At 2nd missions you are introduced to human enemies which unfortunately shows how bland it is. Gun customization is basically cosmetic albeit the ability to change the underbarrel weapon. Who the f**k wants to put a silencer on a pulse rifle...that's just wrong.

All in all,it's worth a play for the nostalgia's sake.

QuoteJust played the first mission and someof the second, unfortunately this game sucks Sad Since I'm also a huge alien fan i really wanted to like it but besides the license there really isn't much to like.

Graphics are barely this gen. So imagine Quake4 from the launch window without the slowdowns but with framerate all over the place (it jumps between 25 and 60, at least thats how it feels). Heavy aliasing, shitty textures, shitty lighting, no mimic in character faces whatsoever. The "cutscenes" are super ugly, i couldn't believe it when i started the game up. Evern the start screen is low res :/.

Gameplay wise this is as generic as you can get. In the first mission alone i had like 10 situations where the npc said, cover me while I'm opening this door. Belive me its really that bad. The scripted events completely pull you out of the game and have never felt this clunky :/. AI is nonexistent just as a storyline, but I'm only like 45-60 Minutes into the game, so i won't bash it for that.

My first contender for biggest letdown 2013 Sad
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: PLEXI on Feb 07, 2013, 06:07:19 PM
Unfortunate, but expected. Thanks for the posts guys.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: saintbenzie on Feb 07, 2013, 06:10:44 PM
Damn, it's what I expected but it's still pretty unfortunate. Will still be getting it day one but I was hoping it was at least going to be somewhat above average.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WinterActual on Feb 07, 2013, 06:30:58 PM
QuoteYep, this game is bland as f**k. AI is also terrible in this game. Aliens standing still for multiple seconds when they come into the room at times, or your coop AI ignoring enemies at times and vice versa. It feels like a poor mans COD in the alien universe. The f**k yeah brofist attitude is forgiven in this case seeing as the marines were like this in the actual movie.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Gazz on Feb 07, 2013, 06:34:40 PM
Pretty much in line with expectation.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: unwittytitle on Feb 07, 2013, 06:38:58 PM
Quote from: WinterActual on Feb 07, 2013, 06:04:47 PM
QuoteAbout 5 missions in and it's very average shooter. Mostly it only has nostalgia going for it...mostly.

At 2nd missions you are introduced to human enemies which unfortunately shows how bland it is. Gun customization is basically cosmetic albeit the ability to change the underbarrel weapon. Who the f**k wants to put a silencer on a pulse rifle...that's just wrong.

All in all,it's worth a play for the nostalgia's sake.

QuoteJust played the first mission and someof the second, unfortunately this game sucks Sad Since I'm also a huge alien fan i really wanted to like it but besides the license there really isn't much to like.

Graphics are barely this gen. So imagine Quake4 from the launch window without the slowdowns but with framerate all over the place (it jumps between 25 and 60, at least thats how it feels). Heavy aliasing, shitty textures, shitty lighting, no mimic in character faces whatsoever. The "cutscenes" are super ugly, i couldn't believe it when i started the game up. Evern the start screen is low res :/.

Gameplay wise this is as generic as you can get. In the first mission alone i had like 10 situations where the npc said, cover me while I'm opening this door. Belive me its really that bad. The scripted events completely pull you out of the game and have never felt this clunky :/. AI is nonexistent just as a storyline, but I'm only like 45-60 Minutes into the game, so i won't bash it for that.

My first contender for biggest letdown 2013 Sad

if your going to post that, you could have at least posted the more positive review from the very same page as well

QuoteMini review

Only couple of missions in so very early impressions but graphics are okay, lighting is good, some of the textures are poor. Sound is great, the voice acting is no where as bad as the last trailer made out. Gameplay wise it feels like Aliens, the guns are authentic, story so far seems in keeping with the movies. I have it preordered and i haven't felt the need to cancel do far.

In summary, if this didn't have the license it would maybe be a 7 out of 10, because i am a huge Aliens fan i can overlook its flaws and i hope the multiplayer is good.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WinterActual on Feb 07, 2013, 06:42:18 PM
What? I posted all the reviews so far from the forum where I got em..
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: unwittytitle on Feb 07, 2013, 06:45:35 PM
Quote from: WinterActual on Feb 07, 2013, 06:42:18 PM
What? I posted all the reviews so far from the forum where I got em..

Interesting, perhaps he posted it in two seperate forums then
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: OpenMaw on Feb 07, 2013, 06:46:03 PM
Quote from: WinterActual on Feb 07, 2013, 06:42:18 PM
What? I posted all the reviews so far from the forum where I got em..

You know what that smell is WinterActual? I think we all do... *SNIFF* Yep. Denial.  :) (Not you. About the negative reviews, I mean...)

Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WinterActual on Feb 07, 2013, 06:47:55 PM
Quote from: unwittytitle on Feb 07, 2013, 06:45:35 PM


Interesting, perhaps he posted it in two seperate forums then
I posted ALL the reviews posted so far from nfohumps. I don't know where you got that review from but I don't have anything against the positive reviews. If I see one I'll post it.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: RagingDragon on Feb 07, 2013, 06:50:26 PM
Quote from: WinterActual on Feb 07, 2013, 06:30:58 PM
QuoteYep, this game is bland as f**k. AI is also terrible in this game. Aliens standing still for multiple seconds when they come into the room at times, or your coop AI ignoring enemies at times and vice versa. It feels like a poor mans COD in the alien universe. The f**k yeah brofist attitude is forgiven in this case seeing as the marines were like this in the actual movie.
Yup, I'm on that boat too. Discouraging, but not surprising.

This in the quote ^ could see it coming a mile away. Even from the earliest gameplay footage, it was clear that the AI comrades joining you will do nothing to advance the terrible NPC counterparts in most games. Awful pathing, no reaction to enemies, the environment, etc...

Most games suffer from this same problem, heavy-hitters like CoD included. I just got through about 8 hours of eye-rolling over Black Ops 2's sometimes-terrible NPCs. The game wants you to be this badass soldier when you can't even count on your teammates to perform basic combat maneuvers like covering you while you move or looking a different direction than everyone else. It's par for the course with shooters these days, but just damn discouraging.

Sad that with all of the work that's gone into this, the game still seems to suffer from these most fixable (and non-Alien related) issues. :-\
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: unwittytitle on Feb 07, 2013, 06:52:22 PM
Quote from: WinterActual on Feb 07, 2013, 06:47:55 PM
Quote from: unwittytitle on Feb 07, 2013, 06:45:35 PM


Interesting, perhaps he posted it in two seperate forums then
I posted ALL the reviews posted so far from nfohumps. I don't know where you got that review from but I don't have anything against the positive reviews. If I see one I'll post it.
Yup thats the same one, top of page 4 is where the review is
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WinterActual on Feb 07, 2013, 07:00:58 PM
You are right, its posted by Foghorn Leghorn. I guess my attention is being held by the emoticon including posts which this post is missing and that's why I missed it  :laugh: One positive review is still something I guess. We will see of the guys will post more detailed reviews.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: First Blood on Feb 07, 2013, 07:40:35 PM
Good thing my excitement level for this game is currently sitting at 10% rather than 100% -- beats not having to deal with being let down by this.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Samus007 on Feb 07, 2013, 08:00:52 PM
Quote from: WinterActual on Feb 07, 2013, 06:04:47 PM
QuoteAbout 5 missions in and it's very average shooter. Mostly it only has nostalgia going for it...mostly.

At 2nd missions you are introduced to human enemies which unfortunately shows how bland it is. Gun customization is basically cosmetic albeit the ability to change the underbarrel weapon. Who the f**k wants to put a silencer on a pulse rifle...that's just wrong.

All in all,it's worth a play for the nostalgia's sake.

QuoteJust played the first mission and someof the second, unfortunately this game sucks Sad Since I'm also a huge alien fan i really wanted to like it but besides the license there really isn't much to like.

Graphics are barely this gen. So imagine Quake4 from the launch window without the slowdowns but with framerate all over the place (it jumps between 25 and 60, at least thats how it feels). Heavy aliasing, shitty textures, shitty lighting, no mimic in character faces whatsoever. The "cutscenes" are super ugly, i couldn't believe it when i started the game up. Evern the start screen is low res :/.

Gameplay wise this is as generic as you can get. In the first mission alone i had like 10 situations where the npc said, cover me while I'm opening this door. Belive me its really that bad. The scripted events completely pull you out of the game and have never felt this clunky :/. AI is nonexistent just as a storyline, but I'm only like 45-60 Minutes into the game, so i won't bash it for that.

My first contender for biggest letdown 2013 Sad

Oh wonderful  :-[ :-\
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: acrediblesource on Feb 07, 2013, 08:07:14 PM
It's hard to be objective when it comes to reviews. What are shitty textures? Is it a trademarked quality? Is Super Ugly a band?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Predaker on Feb 07, 2013, 08:11:05 PM
Quote from: acrediblesource on Feb 07, 2013, 08:07:14 PM
It's hard to be objective when it comes to reviews. What are shitty textures? Is it a trademarked quality? Is Super Ugly a band?

I wouldn't qualify anything posted yet as an actual review, myself.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: PVTDukeMorrison on Feb 07, 2013, 08:25:50 PM
I'm waiting for reviews to come in on game websites, and then I'll just go by the most common score  :)
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Deathly_rYaN on Feb 07, 2013, 08:32:02 PM
My friend got it earlier today, So we both played Co-op. I know there are Movie problems in the game, but you know what. The feel of the marine is quite good. And Because you don't have to worry about Predators at ALL the game keeps the scare factor. It's almost like AvP2 where it had you jump at times
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: RagingDragon on Feb 07, 2013, 08:57:07 PM
Quote from: First Blood on Feb 07, 2013, 07:40:35 PM
Good thing my excitement level for this game is currently sitting at 10% rather than 100% -- beats not having to deal with being let down by this.

I'm with you dude. I don't really care too much anymore :/ I still talk about it and am excited to play it, but I feel like I know how it's going to go.

I hope I'm surprised, but I'm not surprised by much anymore :D Hopefully the DLC will be creative and bring some new things.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ShadowPred on Feb 07, 2013, 09:20:03 PM
Reactions are worse than I expected. Sadly this shouldn't be a surprise, but it sort of is for me.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: szkoki on Feb 07, 2013, 09:27:19 PM
i also read that the game is pretty hard, u can die from 2 xeno attacks on soldier difficulty....so beware of ultimate badass according to this info


still wanna stick with the hardest diff :D
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: teras on Feb 07, 2013, 09:34:53 PM
Ok, first impressions from the PS3 version.

After only 45 minutes with the game my feelings are mixed.
The environment so far is good. The graphics overall are definitely last gen.
There is nothing particularly wrong with them and they get the job done but they are not impressive either.
The character models are average. There is no actual facial animation. Only eyes and mouth movement. At least the lip sync is ok.
I like the lighting. The sound is probably the best part of this game. The pulse rifle and the motion tracker sound excellent. The music builds the tension nicely and pays homage to the movie. Searching for xenos with the motion tracker is really good. The beeps and the way they change according to distance and movement is spot on.

My main problem so far is with the Aliens themselves. For a game built around survival against uneven odds the Aliens should have been in the spotlight. They seem too weak and they are not scary. Even their size seems wrong. They are not fearful, imposing, deadly creatures like in the movie. The encounters with them have no weight and at times it feels as if you are shooting balloons that pop. The fact that the guns don't feel like packing a punch adds to that feeling too.

Pessimistic as I sound, the game still has the atmosphere of the movie. In that respect it is as authentic as it gets and if you can forgive its shortcomings I think it's safe to say that you don't need to cancel your pre-orders. It's still early to say but so far I think the game will be a solid 7 for generic fps fans and an 8 for the rest of us.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: RagingDragon on Feb 07, 2013, 09:48:55 PM
Damn it. I knew it. We all knew it. :-\ I would've picked extremely well-done Aliens over all of the extra stuff like weapon attachments that look like they were taken straight from a COD game and slapped onto a pulse rifle.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Slaine on Feb 07, 2013, 10:03:26 PM
QuoteDamn it. I knew it. We all knew it.  I would've picked extremely well-done Aliens over all of the extra stuff like weapon attachments that look like they were taken straight from a COD game and slapped onto a pulse rifle.

I hear you. It's no fun if the Aliens themselves are so rubbish. Every gameplay vid i've seen so far have them running around like idiots, easy targets. I am literally fed up with having them as dumb canon fodder and not the intelligent, sneaky, scary lethal killers they used to be.  This game could have been a step above if they nailed the AI. That's what makes the Aliens so cool. They aren't- and shouldn't- ever be as the generic video-game enemies seen here.

It makes me sad to see them literally running towards you as you shoot them straight on, not doing anything and accepting death like morons. So much for the "perfect organism".

Ahh..well, i won't cancel my pre-order, i'll still play this game, but my expectations/reservations have been severely "demoralized", as Hudson would say.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: RagingDragon on Feb 07, 2013, 10:07:52 PM
I thought if they were following the successful Left 4 Dead model so closely that they'd at least take the most impressive part of the entire game: the AI Director.

I thought wrooong :D Sad fact given that you couldn't find a more fitting game to use an intelligent horde-handling program than Aliens...
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: OpenMaw on Feb 07, 2013, 10:13:11 PM
Quote from: RagingDragon on Feb 07, 2013, 10:07:52 PM
I thought if they were following the successful Left 4 Dead model so closely that they'd at least take the most impressive part of the entire game: the AI Director.

I thought wrooong :D Sad fact given that you couldn't find a more fitting game to use an intelligent horde-handling program than Aliens...

Same here, Rage. When I heard they were going for drop-in Co-Op that's exactly what I figured they'd do. Have the AI director in there to see when and where to best drop in aliens, and surprise the players each playthrough.

Bugger.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Elicas on Feb 08, 2013, 12:55:54 AM
(Leroy712plays) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPXBEmxnLfk#ws) that Ikarop posted in the stickied video thread. He went from jacked up about playing A:CM to sighing with irritation within the first half an hour.

His complaints:


It wasn't all doom and gloom however, bright points included:

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[/list]

And at the end, a critique of the reviewer:
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[/list]


Part 11 just went up. I'll watch the walkthrough online to see just how bad it really is, but I've cancelled my pre-order. It looks so bad as to not even be worth pirating!

The biggest thing I noted, was how the Aliens are reduced to generic Stormtrooper status. According to his score screen on normal, 68 Xeno's down in the first mission. With a two man squad. Yup. 74 Wey-Yu mercs toasted in mission 2, 142 kills within the first hour, authentic yo. I'm actually going to keep a little log in here of how many kills he gets each mission, just so we can see how over the top Gearbox have gone.

1: 68 Xenos
2: 74 Wey-Yu
3: 64 Wey-Yu + Xenos
4: 71 Xenos
5: 62 Xenos
6: 65 Wey-Yu + Xenos (video cuts off before score screen is displayed, average from above levels would be around 65 kills)
7: 67 Wey-Yu + Xenos
8: 87 Wey-Yu + Xenos
9: 65 Xenos (video cuts off before score screen is displayed, average from above levels would be around 65 kills)
10: 96 Wey-Yu + Xenos
11:  Queen - End of Game



Edit: Editted a couple of things, in bold.[/list]
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ShadowPred on Feb 08, 2013, 12:58:57 AM
QuoteThe biggest thing I noted, was how the Aliens are reduced to generic Stormtrooper status. According to his score screen on normal, 68 Xeno's down in the first mission. With a two man squad. Yup.


Good job Gearbox, way to be unique.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Njm1983 on Feb 08, 2013, 01:05:37 AM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 08, 2013, 12:58:57 AM
Quote68 Xeno's down in the first mission.


Good job Gearbox, way to be unique.

They're wall to wall in there...
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: OpenMaw on Feb 08, 2013, 01:09:07 AM
Quote from: Njm1983 on Feb 08, 2013, 01:05:37 AM
They're wall to wall in there...


Those guys in Aliens were so whiney. They could have handled the aliens easily if they just walked into the tunnel with their guns ready.

Take em all down.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: The Runner on Feb 08, 2013, 01:24:09 AM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 08, 2013, 12:58:57 AM
QuoteThe biggest thing I noted, was how the Aliens are reduced to generic Stormtrooper status. According to his score screen on normal, 68 Xeno's down in the first mission. With a two man squad. Yup.


Good job Gearbox, way to be unique.


Pitchford had his hard-on right down the barrel of Hicks shotgun, while oblivious to the obvious threat the xenomorphs were.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Sully on Feb 08, 2013, 01:25:01 AM
QuoteI thought I got lucky and bought the game last friday from a shop who clearly had no idea about it's release date, and I have played through the campaign on normal once. And I got bored about halfway through.

The game is buggy, you can walk inside your companions and enemies get stuck. There is a lot of down time waiting for doors to open while your companions chat away. Probably to mask load times, but it's so obvious that it gets old fast.

Ai for both companions and enemies are bad. It just kills the atmosphere when you have your companion and an Alien having a boxing match until you help out. The Aliens aren't very scary since they seem so slow, and if they come to close, as they often will, you'll have to melee them or trow them off with a quick time event. To make matters worse they are badly animated too.

The implementation of the motion tracking sensor doesn't work so well. The screen is too small and the levels dark, so when you finally get yourself orientated the Aliens are on top of you anyway. Just get used to using the shotgun and upgrade all your rifles with one too.

I think the reviews of Aliens: Colonial Marines will probably be about 6-7 on average.

And that is too bad since I had high hopes for this to. But maybe the mp or coop is more fun, but I wouldn't hold my breath...

QuoteI was very disappointed at least so I thought I should tell people. The main problem might be that as a sp game this is not very good, or very scary as you'd hope for in a game version of Aliens.

It seems to have been designed around coop and that deflates all tension. Ai companions shout out long before you see Aliens so there isn't really a need for the motion tracker.

I haven't said anything about the story not to spoil anything, but there really isn't much too spoil either as the story is not the main focus at all. You are running from objective to objective in a linear shooting spree that unfortunately reminds me of Cod....

He uploaded videos to prove it;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZB0Rjn9qyM#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZB0Rjn9qyM#ws)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GdJhSxK2X8#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GdJhSxK2X8#ws)

http://www.ps3trophies.org/forum/aliens-colonial-marines/187966-lower-your-expectations.html (http://www.ps3trophies.org/forum/aliens-colonial-marines/187966-lower-your-expectations.html)
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Dovahkiin on Feb 08, 2013, 01:25:55 AM
Quote from: Elicas on Feb 08, 2013, 12:55:54 AM
Watched the first 45 minutes or so with the Latino sounding fellow playing on youtube that Ikarop posted in the stickied video thread. He went from jacked up about playing A:CM to sighing with irritation within the first half an hour.

His complaints:


  • Dialogue is hammy.
  • Textures are exceedingly low resolution.
  • Alien Wrastlin'.
  • 'Dumb' AI from your squadmates.
  • His biggest scare so far was his squadmate warping through his screen from behind.
  • Acid is ineffectual.
  • Aliens queue up to be shot.
  • Less than an hour in and it becomes a generic chest high walls cover shooter versus Weyland mercs.
  • There was too much talking and exposition rather than trying to actually get on with surviving in the Hive

It wasn't all doom and gloom however, bright points included:


  • Fighting the Lurker in the nest was very atmospheric.
  • Facehuggers made him shit his little girl panties.
  • Weapons sound very good, like being in the film.
  • Motion tracker is again, very authentic.

That was about it before part 3 finished, part 4 isn't uploaded yet. I'll watch the walkthrough online to see just how bad it really is, but I've cancelled my pre-order. It looks so bad as to not even be worth pirating!

The biggest thing I noted, was how the Aliens are reduced to generic Stormtrooper status. According to his score screen on normal, 68 Xeno's down in the first mission. With a two man squad. Yup.

Extremely disappointing to read. It was the same way with the marine campaign in AVP2010. There's still hope for multiplayer, though...
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Elicas on Feb 08, 2013, 01:26:37 AM
 Amended my post, having found part 4. Added his new complaints to the list, no new plus points though :(
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ShadowPred on Feb 08, 2013, 01:27:30 AM
Quote from: Dovahkiin on Feb 08, 2013, 01:25:55 AM
Quote from: Elicas on Feb 08, 2013, 12:55:54 AM
Watched the first 45 minutes or so with the Latino sounding fellow playing on youtube that Ikarop posted in the stickied video thread. He went from jacked up about playing A:CM to sighing with irritation within the first half an hour.

His complaints:


  • Dialogue is hammy.
  • Textures are exceedingly low resolution.
  • Alien Wrastlin'.
  • 'Dumb' AI from your squadmates.
  • His biggest scare so far was his squadmate warping through his screen from behind.
  • Acid is ineffectual.
  • Aliens queue up to be shot.
  • Less than an hour in and it becomes a generic chest high walls cover shooter versus Weyland mercs.
  • There was too much talking and exposition rather than trying to actually get on with surviving in the Hive

It wasn't all doom and gloom however, bright points included:


  • Fighting the Lurker in the nest was very atmospheric.
  • Facehuggers made him shit his little girl panties.
  • Weapons sound very good, like being in the film.
  • Motion tracker is again, very authentic.

That was about it before part 3 finished, part 4 isn't uploaded yet. I'll watch the walkthrough online to see just how bad it really is, but I've cancelled my pre-order. It looks so bad as to not even be worth pirating!

The biggest thing I noted, was how the Aliens are reduced to generic Stormtrooper status. According to his score screen on normal, 68 Xeno's down in the first mission. With a two man squad. Yup.

Extremely disappointing to read. It was the same way with the marine campaign in AVP2010. There's still hope for multiplayer, though...


I think it says something that I found the live stream portions of the multi-player to actually be more fun than the campaign we saw. Looks like actually playing the campaign will be as shit as it was in AvP 2010.


Lol, just saw the edited post of the pros and cons...142 kills in the first hour...with two Marines...brilliant, just f**king brilliant.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ShadowPred on Feb 08, 2013, 01:49:35 AM
Quote from: Sully on Feb 08, 2013, 01:25:01 AM
QuoteI thought I got lucky and bought the game last friday from a shop who clearly had no idea about it's release date, and I have played through the campaign on normal once. And I got bored about halfway through.

The game is buggy, you can walk inside your companions and enemies get stuck. There is a lot of down time waiting for doors to open while your companions chat away. Probably to mask load times, but it's so obvious that it gets old fast.

Ai for both companions and enemies are bad. It just kills the atmosphere when you have your companion and an Alien having a boxing match until you help out. The Aliens aren't very scary since they seem so slow, and if they come to close, as they often will, you'll have to melee them or trow them off with a quick time event. To make matters worse they are badly animated too.

The implementation of the motion tracking sensor doesn't work so well. The screen is too small and the levels dark, so when you finally get yourself orientated the Aliens are on top of you anyway. Just get used to using the shotgun and upgrade all your rifles with one too.

I think the reviews of Aliens: Colonial Marines will probably be about 6-7 on average.

And that is too bad since I had high hopes for this to. But maybe the mp or coop is more fun, but I wouldn't hold my breath...

QuoteI was very disappointed at least so I thought I should tell people. The main problem might be that as a sp game this is not very good, or very scary as you'd hope for in a game version of Aliens.

It seems to have been designed around coop and that deflates all tension. Ai companions shout out long before you see Aliens so there isn't really a need for the motion tracker.

I haven't said anything about the story not to spoil anything, but there really isn't much too spoil either as the story is not the main focus at all. You are running from objective to objective in a linear shooting spree that unfortunately reminds me of Cod....

He uploaded videos to prove it;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZB0Rjn9qyM#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZB0Rjn9qyM#ws)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GdJhSxK2X8#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GdJhSxK2X8#ws)

http://www.ps3trophies.org/forum/aliens-colonial-marines/187966-lower-your-expectations.html (http://www.ps3trophies.org/forum/aliens-colonial-marines/187966-lower-your-expectations.html)


Yep...this pretty much settles it for me. As I said before, I am definitely going to buy this game for very cheap, and used.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: RagingDragon on Feb 08, 2013, 02:14:14 AM
Despite my horrendous disappointment, this whole page had me laughing freaking hard. :laugh:

I guess I haven't been keeping up on current events, but that first video... he straight rubs on that Alien's face around the 3:30 mark. He rubs it, all up on it man! Why does this have to happen?

The only people to ever rub an Alien's face have had theirs almost immediately eaten. But of course, the Alien has to hiss and scream for no real purpose instead of attack, like an angered but not very dangerous dog.

And that's how they begin the game? With a good Alien face grope? God help us.

They wag their tails too. Watch as the first alien jumps down from the wall. His tail sure is a'waggin (because he knows he's about to get cuddles on his face.)

Just like Avpaliens... These are just Anderson AvP aliens, that's what they forgot to mention. The game is now great. ;)
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 08, 2013, 03:16:54 AM
Short review from a woman who is from England I believe. She gave it an 8 outta 10.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/columnist/2013/02/08/cheryl-mullin-aliens-colonial-marines-100252-32768147/ (http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/columnist/2013/02/08/cheryl-mullin-aliens-colonial-marines-100252-32768147/)
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Giger_Incubator on Feb 08, 2013, 03:20:31 AM
So Dog Alien confirmed then? I had hoped so, even assumed, but never heard confirmation from anyone. Best news so far, easily.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: DiabloGuapo on Feb 08, 2013, 03:28:22 AM
Based on the videos that I've seen, I like it and I'm still looking forward to playing it. Is it perfect? No, but it still looks fun. It looks no worse than AvP2010, and believe it or not, I like that game. Hammy dialoge, so what. It's no worse than any other FPS. The graphics look fine to me, then again I'm not too picky. Sure, the Alien AI could be more stealthy and acid could do more damage, but the game has to be playable. Could you imagine trying to survive a xenomorph encounter if they were like the ones from the movies? You'll never be able to get pass the first level. I think everyone set their expectations too high and are being too hard on it. I know it's been hyped up about being a "canon" game, but remember that it's a game first and foremost. I think fans would find something to complain about regardless of what's in it. Remember, it's just a game, have fun with it.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 08, 2013, 03:39:41 AM
Quote from: DiabloGuapo on Feb 08, 2013, 03:28:22 AM
Based on the videos that I've seen, I like it and I'm still looking forward to playing it. Is it perfect? No, but it still looks fun. It looks no worse than AvP2010, and believe it or not, I like that game. Hammy dialoge, so what. It's no worse than any other FPS. The graphics look fine to me, then again I'm not too picky. Sure, the Alien AI could be more stealthy and acid could do more damage, but the game has to be playable. Could you imagine trying to survive a xenomorph encounter if they were like the ones from the movies? You'll never be able to get pass the first level. I think everyone set their expectations too high and are being too hard on it. I know it's been hyped up about being a "canon" game, but remember that it's a game first and foremost. I think fans would find something to complain about regardless of what's in it. Remember, it's just a game, have fun with it.

That's my thing. If it's fun and brings me back for more than I am okay with it. I mean, I will be satisfied, not happy, as long as ACM is better overall than AVP 2010. Which should not be hard to do.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Corporate Merc on Feb 08, 2013, 04:21:08 AM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 08, 2013, 03:39:41 AM
Quote from: DiabloGuapo on Feb 08, 2013, 03:28:22 AM
Based on the videos that I've seen, I like it and I'm still looking forward to playing it. Is it perfect? No, but it still looks fun. It looks no worse than AvP2010, and believe it or not, I like that game. Hammy dialoge, so what. It's no worse than any other FPS. The graphics look fine to me, then again I'm not too picky. Sure, the Alien AI could be more stealthy and acid could do more damage, but the game has to be playable. Could you imagine trying to survive a xenomorph encounter if they were like the ones from the movies? You'll never be able to get pass the first level. I think everyone set their expectations too high and are being too hard on it. I know it's been hyped up about being a "canon" game, but remember that it's a game first and foremost. I think fans would find something to complain about regardless of what's in it. Remember, it's just a game, have fun with it.

That's my thing. If it's fun and brings me back for more than I am okay with it. I mean, I will be satisfied, not happy, as long as ACM is better overall than AVP 2010. Which should not be hard to do.


F@#king right, have fun man everyone is tearing this game a new asshole. Im right there with ya, im actually digging the vids Ive seen so far cant wait.


Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: RagingDragon on Feb 08, 2013, 04:26:11 AM
In all fairness, Gearbox does make some fun games. Even if it fails on strictly 'Aliens' levels for me, there's still a lot to like about it. At least it looks like they have a decent enough amount of content and some effort went into it.

AvP2010 really felt kind of limited. At least we've got the major functions of most games here, such as ducking. :laugh: I think I'll have some love/hate things about the game similar to how I felt about Prometheus. Too early to tell the final verdict yet, but this dog alien news really has my nipples at attention......

Bug Hunt could be a blast to, and for that price they have to include at least 4 maps.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 08, 2013, 04:31:39 AM
Quote from: Corporate Merc on Feb 08, 2013, 04:21:08 AM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 08, 2013, 03:39:41 AM
Quote from: DiabloGuapo on Feb 08, 2013, 03:28:22 AM
Based on the videos that I've seen, I like it and I'm still looking forward to playing it. Is it perfect? No, but it still looks fun. It looks no worse than AvP2010, and believe it or not, I like that game. Hammy dialoge, so what. It's no worse than any other FPS. The graphics look fine to me, then again I'm not too picky. Sure, the Alien AI could be more stealthy and acid could do more damage, but the game has to be playable. Could you imagine trying to survive a xenomorph encounter if they were like the ones from the movies? You'll never be able to get pass the first level. I think everyone set their expectations too high and are being too hard on it. I know it's been hyped up about being a "canon" game, but remember that it's a game first and foremost. I think fans would find something to complain about regardless of what's in it. Remember, it's just a game, have fun with it.

That's my thing. If it's fun and brings me back for more than I am okay with it. I mean, I will be satisfied, not happy, as long as ACM is better overall than AVP 2010. Which should not be hard to do.


F@#king right, have fun man everyone is tearing this game a new asshole. Im right there with ya, im actually digging the vids Ive seen so far cant wait.

I mean, it's one thing to have high hopes but it almost seems like people here want a GOTY type game. End of the day I just want a game that is solid. I think ACM will be decent enough for me.

If another AVP or Aliens game comes out though I would hope SEGA gets a top-notch developer. I think 343 or Bungie would do wonders with this kind of series.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: OpenMaw on Feb 08, 2013, 04:40:25 AM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 08, 2013, 04:31:39 AM
I mean, it's one thing to have high hopes but it almost seems like people here want a GOTY type game. End of the day I just want a game that is solid. I think ACM will be decent enough for me.

If another AVP or Aliens game comes out though I would hope SEGA gets a top-notch developer. I think 343 or Bungie would do wonders with this kind of series.

It's like, whenever someone has anything negative to say, there seem to be two or three people around who feel compelled to completely marginalize critical opinions. No. It isn't that people have any super high standards. It's what Gearbox is saying. If you can shrug off a developers own words and say "I don't care that they lie to my face. I just want a fun experience." That's on you. Don't postulate that other people just like to tear things apart. We don't.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 08, 2013, 04:54:01 AM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 08, 2013, 04:40:25 AM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 08, 2013, 04:31:39 AM
I mean, it's one thing to have high hopes but it almost seems like people here want a GOTY type game. End of the day I just want a game that is solid. I think ACM will be decent enough for me.

If another AVP or Aliens game comes out though I would hope SEGA gets a top-notch developer. I think 343 or Bungie would do wonders with this kind of series.

It's like, whenever someone has anything negative to say, there seem to be two or three people around who feel compelled to completely marginalize critical opinions. No. It isn't that people have any super high standards. It's what Gearbox is saying. If you can shrug off a developers own words and say "I don't care that they lie to my face. I just want a fun experience." That's on you. Don't postulate that other people just like to tear things apart. We don't.

Developers always say stuff like GBX does. Just like boxing promoters promise the best fight of all-time.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: OpenMaw on Feb 08, 2013, 04:57:31 AM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 08, 2013, 04:54:01 AM
Developers always say stuff like GBX does. Just like boxing promoters promise the best fight of all-time.

...That's a bunch of crap. When they flat out lie about a feature, or intentionally mislead the audience, or promise absolute accuracy, they deserve absolute scrutiny.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Remonster on Feb 08, 2013, 05:02:39 AM
I try my best to always take what developers say with a grain of salt, because you never know if they're lying, or just getting way too overexcited about the game they are making and promise too much. I learned quickly to ignore what Peter Molynuex said about his games, and just play the games for what they were. And It's the same with this game. I haven't been listening to much of the "authentic" crap that Gearbox has been spewing, because to me it doesn't matter. If the game plays well, and I'm having fun, then I feel like my money was well spent.

Honestly, I hope the game does well. Because I would love to see what Gearbox could do with a stand alone sequel. Granted, they would actually have to learn some big lessons from this game. But I think they could. They fixed a lot fo the problems I had with Borderlands when making Borderlands 2, and BL2 went on to be one of my favorite games last year.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: VonPelz on Feb 08, 2013, 05:04:41 AM
My first impressions after playing six chapters (X360):


On a more positive note:
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WinterActual on Feb 08, 2013, 05:53:27 AM
Quote from: teras on Feb 07, 2013, 09:34:53 PM
The fact that the guns don't feel like packing a punch adds to that feeling too.

This is the same for every GBX game. All the guns in their games feel like toys, not like real guns.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Ash 937 on Feb 08, 2013, 06:07:16 AM
So can anyone confirm whether or not there is a MP map that resembles Fury 161?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Speedy_J on Feb 08, 2013, 07:46:02 AM
Something tells me multiplayer is where the main focus is...
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 08, 2013, 07:59:07 AM
Quote from: Speedy_J on Feb 08, 2013, 07:46:02 AM
Something tells me multiplayer is where the main focus is...

Fine by me. MP has more replay value than SP anyway. If that is a letdown then I will be pissed.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Le Celticant on Feb 08, 2013, 08:24:00 AM
And that's what they call "The Aliens sequel we never got".  ::)
It remind me so much of Strause brother claiming it is the Predator and Alien film "we've all been waiting for."
The story looks stupid anyway and completely lack the Immersive side. It just feels they wanted to bring you directly into the game so you can be happy that "yeah there are aliens and I'm shooting at them zomg!!!".
They've just shown less than an hour and the script already show how stupid it is with guy killing himself with a grenade, blowing a ship, a girl that has been infected but nobody gives a damn while someone a minute ago just died cos of a chestburster. The ship which land in the hanger is just... meh?

I don't know WTF is going on with all AI Alien/AVP game had.
It's like games like this were never intended to be played in Single Player just like AVP2 and AVP2010 having some of the most retarded AI system I've ever played. I just feel that Gearbox has give to the AI a whole new level of stupidity to be an equal to its predecessor.

The game seems very linear and Humans combat sound so boring. (And what's up with the character Model? I feels like there are only 3 WY guard model. It looks very repetitive).

I think a lot have already been said about graphics, though, it's not the PC version so you never know for real what it is going to like on your system BUT nothing is impressive so far and some level design fells short.

I'm not quite fan yet of the Alien hive texture. Dunno what's going on with this fashion to put Orange everywhere in the Lightning but I'm definitely not a fan of it. I'd rather have dark blueish atmosphere with a lot of haze / fog in the air than an hollywood blockbuster color correction shit ala Transformers.


Overall, I feel that this game is just like AVP2010: Released as a Beta stage.
I can't believe that even the first screenshot we got of the game looked better than the actual footage.
I suspect some smart 3DS Max/Vray render but anyway, they were very ambitious at the beginning. Making us see we would see human cities in the future, futuristic base on an asteroid, different location and possibly even some ALIEN³ locations and Hadley's hope as well.
But nah, they just want everything to be set on LV-426 in three location that we already know.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Saberous on Feb 08, 2013, 09:00:58 AM
First impressions: The issue I've seen that really bugs me is the Alien's AI. After watching the game play I've seen several instants were Aliens just stand there and do nothing. Perhaps this is a difficulty setting and hopefully in Ultimate Bad-Ass mode it will be different were the Aliens try to kill you ( Some of the human AI could use some tweaks to). Some of the game bugs I've seen haven't impressed me either; people, and Aliens glitching through doors floors, and etc. I mean come on, Gearbox has been working on this game for how long, and the game looks this buggy? I'm hoping the graphics are better on the PC then the consoles but when I was watching the live stream the graphics looked great (It also could have been the quality of the stream/video. Sources: IGN live stream and Leeroy712Plays). I understand for balance reasons why you can't equip a M56 Smartgun right away in MP but in campaign I'm hoping you can equip it (My fav weapon in the Aliens universe). I think acid should should do more damage, granted I've only seen difficult set on soldier but still you should always have to worry about it. I love how much detail they put in the game. What I've seen looks great, the Sulaco and Hadley's Hope look amazing, and I can't wait to play the game and explore. I'm hoping that in the future they have a non Alien infested Sulaco and a non blown up Hadley's Hope in a DLC to play on. The nerd I am would love to act out scenes from Aliens. Like the first battle against the Aliens in the Atmospheric Processor, to the final stand at Hadley's (Maybe I could save Drake or Hudson, or both? That would have made for an interesting twist to the movie.) After everything I've seen so far I'm still really excited to play the game. The concept of their story I like, how they went about to bring it to life I don't like from what I've seen. I mean the chestburster part and the grenade, common really? I could have wrote a better part. However the story still has my attention, how did the Sulaco get back to LV-426? How and why to Weyland-Yutani breed Aliens on the Sulaco? From trailers it seems that either Hicks or Hundson survived (I'm thinking Hicks, maybe both, that would be epic!) and did they help WY with their research? I can't wait to play to find out.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WeaN on Feb 08, 2013, 09:11:01 AM
Game is really easy, even on Hard... standard aliens aren't much of a threat up close, which kind defeats the purpose - they need several hits to kill you, and before they do you have ample time to either melee (which actually works) or point blank shotgun, as there's close to no acid damage. Even alien corpses.
Shotgun is also very overpowered, as it has sick range and you can easily kill one of them with 2 shots, at worst. Even at a distance.
Human ennemies are more challenging indeed, but I ain't playing an Aliens game to fight humans... Chapters 2 and 3 really were a chore to go through (95% of ennemies are human).
Lurkers are the more interesting foes, as they actually try to hide and flank instead of (slowly) going up to you like standard ones (Drones). But even they aren't really a challenge, as even when they get up close and grab you it doesn't mean instant death - you can mash X and push them away, rinse and repeat.

Ambiance wise the game really picks up by Chapter 4, in my opinion that should have been the beginning of the game.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WinterActual on Feb 08, 2013, 09:17:12 AM
In how many chapters exactly we are encountering a human enemies? If they are present in just 2 chapters its not that much of a deal I suppose.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WeaN on Feb 08, 2013, 09:20:31 AM
I'm at Chapter 6 and so far I only encountered them in Chapters 2 and 3. Hopefully it stays that way.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WinterActual on Feb 08, 2013, 09:22:29 AM
You shouldn't be too far away from the ending. The game is pretty short. I've heard 2 guys finished on Hardened for 6 hours without rushing or anything.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Speedy_J on Feb 08, 2013, 09:33:57 AM
By the way, with all the bugs and glitches...Do we know if we're getting a day 1 patch?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 08, 2013, 09:37:38 AM
Quote from: Speedy_J on Feb 08, 2013, 09:33:57 AM
By the way, with all the bugs and glitches...Do we know if we're getting a day 1 patch?

I would hope/think so. None of these early players will get it obviously until the 12th.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WeaN on Feb 08, 2013, 09:52:15 AM
Quote from: WeaN on Feb 08, 2013, 09:20:31 AM
I'm at Chapter 6 and so far I only encountered them in Chapters 2 and 3. Hopefully it stays that way.
Disregard that, I encountered more of them later on, but not as much as in the first levels, fortunately.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ShadowPred on Feb 08, 2013, 09:58:19 AM
Quote from: WinterActual on Feb 08, 2013, 09:22:29 AM
You shouldn't be too far away from the ending. The game is pretty short. I've heard 2 guys finished on Hardened for 6 hours without rushing or anything.


Damn, this game isn't even worth playing if you can beat this in 6 hours on Hardened.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 08, 2013, 10:04:33 AM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 08, 2013, 09:58:19 AM
Quote from: WinterActual on Feb 08, 2013, 09:22:29 AM
You shouldn't be too far away from the ending. The game is pretty short. I've heard 2 guys finished on Hardened for 6 hours without rushing or anything.


Damn, this game isn't even worth playing if you can beat this in 6 hours on Hardened.

I beat Halo 4 in like, 5 and 1/2 on normal by myself. The next difficulty would have maybe tacked on 2 hours.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Salt The Fries on Feb 08, 2013, 10:16:49 AM
Yeah, on Legendary you are just forced to retreat plenty of times, backtrack for supplies or wait for the shield to recharge itself, if I played it on Normal I'd have finished it 3 times already.


And of course if you want to get certain achievements while playing Solo on Legendary, that time is extended even further...

But I gave up on that "Bros to the Close" achievement, on Legendary Solo I always lost 1 guy at worst...If my checkpoints saved tad differently I would manage to do it, but my last one when I had 6 bros was not a good checkpoint, so I decided to screw it and replay those couple of checkpoints on Heroic...
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ShadowPred on Feb 08, 2013, 10:24:07 AM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 08, 2013, 10:04:33 AM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 08, 2013, 09:58:19 AM
Quote from: WinterActual on Feb 08, 2013, 09:22:29 AM
You shouldn't be too far away from the ending. The game is pretty short. I've heard 2 guys finished on Hardened for 6 hours without rushing or anything.


Damn, this game isn't even worth playing if you can beat this in 6 hours on Hardened.

I beat Halo 4 in like, 5 and 1/2 on normal by myself. The next difficulty would have maybe tacked on 2 hours.


6 hours on Hardened sucks, can't even imagine how much less it would be to play the game on Normal. I sure f**king hope that the game is awesome with all the stuff that could happen in each level, because that is what will redeem the time it takes to beat it.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: LogansFolly on Feb 08, 2013, 10:26:08 AM
Quote from: DiabloGuapo on Feb 08, 2013, 03:28:22 AM
Based on the videos that I've seen, I like it and I'm still looking forward to playing it. Is it perfect? No, but it still looks fun. It looks no worse than AvP2010, and believe it or not, I like that game. Hammy dialoge, so what. It's no worse than any other FPS. The graphics look fine to me, then again I'm not too picky. Sure, the Alien AI could be more stealthy and acid could do more damage, but the game has to be playable. Could you imagine trying to survive a xenomorph encounter if they were like the ones from the movies? You'll never be able to get pass the first level. I think everyone set their expectations too high and are being too hard on it. I know it's been hyped up about being a "canon" game, but remember that it's a game first and foremost. I think fans would find something to complain about regardless of what's in it. Remember, it's just a game, have fun with it.

Words taken out of my mouth.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WinterActual on Feb 08, 2013, 10:29:00 AM
Everybody is looking forward to play it. Everybody will try it no matter what either if he rent it, buy it, torrent it, play it in a friend, steal it etc. But that's not the point.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Elicas on Feb 08, 2013, 10:30:08 AM
Some of the criticisms are justifiably needed in my opinion. As someone who only plays single player in fps games, this means the entire game is around 6-7 hours long for me, with numerous mistakes, bugs, glitches, bad game-play and inauthenticity.

Co-Op and Multiplayer might very well redeem the game, but as I wouldn't touch them with a 10 ft barge pole, it's irrelevant to me.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: szkoki on Feb 08, 2013, 11:34:20 AM
Quote from: Dovahkiin on Feb 08, 2013, 01:25:55 AM
Quote from: Elicas on Feb 08, 2013, 12:55:54 AM
Watched the first 45 minutes or so with the Latino sounding fellow playing on youtube that Ikarop posted in the stickied video thread. He went from jacked up about playing A:CM to sighing with irritation within the first half an hour.

His complaints:


  • Dialogue is hammy.
  • Textures are exceedingly low resolution.
  • Alien Wrastlin'.
  • 'Dumb' AI from your squadmates.
  • His biggest scare so far was his squadmate warping through his screen from behind.
  • Acid is ineffectual.
  • Aliens queue up to be shot.
  • Less than an hour in and it becomes a generic chest high walls cover shooter versus Weyland mercs.
  • There was too much talking and exposition rather than trying to actually get on with surviving in the Hive

It wasn't all doom and gloom however, bright points included:


  • Fighting the Lurker in the nest was very atmospheric.
  • Facehuggers made him shit his little girl panties.
  • Weapons sound very good, like being in the film.
  • Motion tracker is again, very authentic.

That was about it before part 3 finished, part 4 isn't uploaded yet. I'll watch the walkthrough online to see just how bad it really is, but I've cancelled my pre-order. It looks so bad as to not even be worth pirating!

The biggest thing I noted, was how the Aliens are reduced to generic Stormtrooper status. According to his score screen on normal, 68 Xeno's down in the first mission. With a two man squad. Yup.

Extremely disappointing to read. It was the same way with the marine campaign in AVP2010. There's still hope for multiplayer, though...

tbh it sounds worst than avp2010, aliens are scary in that one and fast and hard to kill
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: The Runner on Feb 08, 2013, 11:43:59 AM
Quote from: WeaN on Feb 08, 2013, 09:20:31 AM
I'm at Chapter 6 and so far I only encountered them in Chapters 2 and 3. Hopefully it stays that way.

Any new aliens encountered?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: teras on Feb 08, 2013, 11:52:38 AM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 08, 2013, 09:37:38 AM
Quote from: Speedy_J on Feb 08, 2013, 09:33:57 AM
By the way, with all the bugs and glitches...Do we know if we're getting a day 1 patch?

I would hope/think so. None of these early players will get it obviously until the 12th.

There is a day-one 106MB patch for the PS3 version.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Elicas on Feb 08, 2013, 12:06:31 PM
Watched parts 5+6 and amended my post on page 3 accordingly. Half a dozen more negatives, one new positive. Your now three marine squad currently has over 300 kills, no casualties (in combat anyway).
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: slipknotpredator on Feb 08, 2013, 12:10:36 PM
Im so sad... I´ve been waiting for this game for so long... :(
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WinterActual on Feb 08, 2013, 12:16:05 PM
We all did, bro. I was saying how bad this game is going to be, I was pointing its flaws here and there but (almost) no one listened, more of the users called me a troll back then. After the first ever mp footage I was sure where this is going.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: szkoki on Feb 08, 2013, 12:20:21 PM
so u want a medal for it or what? because what u were guessing is true ?

we are already depressed and upset enough because of the reviews no need for this really
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WinterActual on Feb 08, 2013, 12:22:14 PM
Guessing? No, I was sure.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WeaN on Feb 08, 2013, 12:25:35 PM
Quote from: The Runner on Feb 08, 2013, 11:43:59 AM
Quote from: WeaN on Feb 08, 2013, 09:20:31 AM
I'm at Chapter 6 and so far I only encountered them in Chapters 2 and 3. Hopefully it stays that way.

Any new aliens encountered?
Standard Drones, Lurkers, Spitters, creepy explosive ones  and
Spoiler
something akin to a Praetorian in size with a skull face that acts as a boss you have to defeat using a power loader
[close]

I'm nearing the end of my playthrough ... seriously guys, this game is bad. Honestly.
And that's coming from a die hard fan, I played all principal games that this franchise spawned... this one is by far the worst. Bad graphics, bad level design, shit ennemy AI, difficulty is either stupid or non existent... it's unpolished as f**k, bugs and glitches everywhere, and the plot is a joke.
This game has nothing going on for it except wacky fan service. Yeah we got it, it's cool to go through the sets of the movie, but if Gearbox thought this would be enough they were either truly mistaking, or taking us players/fans for a bunch of fools.

... multiplayer better be fun (and not too laggy like AvP2010), or else people are going to feel buyer's remorse. Bad.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Salt The Fries on Feb 08, 2013, 12:29:45 PM
I already feel f**kING BUYER'S REMORSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: szkoki on Feb 08, 2013, 12:32:06 PM
first Prometheus , now this :D

at least that movie has quality look
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: piff on Feb 08, 2013, 12:33:30 PM
so after a decade they still havent gotten it right and avp2 2001 is the better game still...
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: LogansFolly on Feb 08, 2013, 12:34:52 PM
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Feb 08, 2013, 12:29:45 PM
I already feel f**kING BUYER'S REMORSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So trade it or sell it... no big deal?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: szkoki on Feb 08, 2013, 12:35:02 PM
if its that bad really im guessing someone who called the creative manager will lose his job
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WeaN on Feb 08, 2013, 12:35:24 PM
Quote from: piff on Feb 08, 2013, 12:33:30 PM
so after a decade they still havent gotten it right and avp2 2001 is the better game still...
That sounds about right.
I'm trying to remain as objective as possible, but even as a fan, trying to find bits and pieces of redeeming qualities, can't help but face the fact the game is a mess. You know when it's almost a chore to play through it something is wrong.
Dunno what they've been doing for 4 years, this has to be some kind of sick joke.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: szkoki on Feb 08, 2013, 12:36:55 PM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.officialplaystationmagazine.co.uk%2Ffiles%2F2012%2F03%2FRandy.jpg&hash=4f13d519c677b1f35def30147379c6d3ac3c9c66)
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: LogansFolly on Feb 08, 2013, 12:40:05 PM
Quote from: WeaN on Feb 08, 2013, 12:35:24 PM
Quote from: piff on Feb 08, 2013, 12:33:30 PM
so after a decade they still havent gotten it right and avp2 2001 is the better game still...
That sounds about right.
I'm trying to remain as objective as possible, but even as a fan, trying to find bits and pieces of redeeming qualities, can't help but face the fact the game is a mess. You know when it's almost a chore to play through it something is wrong.
Dunno what they've been doing for 4 years, this has to be some kind of sick joke.

Can i ask please... what games do you like play generally? Whats your fav game of this current gen....
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WeaN on Feb 08, 2013, 12:46:13 PM
Quote from: LogansFolly on Feb 08, 2013, 12:40:05 PMCan i ask please... what games do you like play generally? Whats your fav game of this current gen....
When it comes to shooters, I mostly played the Halo series and Battlefield. Never liked CoD, haven't touched any of those since CoD4.
Dunno if that's gonna help... I would understand if people would rather give the benefit of the doubt and see for themselves... by any means, please do. That's also what I did, reserved my judgement until I got my hands of the game. And I was utterly disappointed. I'd take AvP2010 Campaign over this one's anyday, that says a lot.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Blacklabel on Feb 08, 2013, 12:47:26 PM
Disapointing to see this game being blasted all to hell :/

Canon? Nope!lolz.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: LogansFolly on Feb 08, 2013, 12:55:02 PM
Quote from: WeaN on Feb 08, 2013, 12:46:13 PM
Quote from: LogansFolly on Feb 08, 2013, 12:40:05 PMCan i ask please... what games do you like play generally? Whats your fav game of this current gen....
When it comes to shooters, I mostly played the Halo series and Battlefield. Never liked CoD, haven't touched any of those since CoD4.
Dunno if that's gonna help... I would understand if people would rather give the benefit of the doubt and see for themselves... by any means, please do. That's also what I did, reserved my judgement until I got my hands of the game. And I was utterly disappointed. I'd take AvP2010 Campaign over this one's anyday, that says a lot.

.... oh bugger!(good answers imo!) Oh well lets hope mp is good!? I am more of a multiplayer fan anyway... when there are no kids fcukin up the chat ect ect!!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WeaN on Feb 08, 2013, 01:04:35 PM
Quote from: LogansFolly on Feb 08, 2013, 12:55:02 PM
.... oh bugger!(good answers imo!) Oh well lets hope mp is good!? I am more of a multiplayer fan anyway... when there are no kids fcukin up the chat ect ect!!
If you want my opinion, MP has the potential to be better than AvP2010's, and maybe on par with AvP2 - there's a lot of customization so the fans will be much more pleased than the very limited options AvP2010 had, and the concept of class based xenos is a solid mechanic, AvP2 proved it. I'm only fearing lag. Still have bad memories from AvP2010's MP in that regard... and let's be realistic, what are the chances they can provide a lag free game when they seem to suck at everything else so far ?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Kalawaki on Feb 08, 2013, 01:10:53 PM
All I see is inconsistent bitching from everyone on this forum day in, day out.

You are all whining about something you have yet to play.

Fan-based reviews are biased, everyone that is a fan usually sets their expectations way too goddamn high, and most company-based reviews require a bribe or a bandwagon to give a positive review.


Instead of being mindless sheep with no opinion for yourselves, worthlessly only taking the opinion of people that got an early copy or got paid a salary to write a few paragraph's about something, why don't you actually play the game before judging it? The entire point of video game reviews is pointless unless you share the exact same needs, preferences, and personality as the person writing the review.

Idiots.

And for those of you that have an early copy, I honestly don't give a flying f**k about Graphics, AI, or the like. I'm getting this game mostly for the multiplayer and because i'm a die-hard fan, so I would like to know what happens in the story. That's all.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: szkoki on Feb 08, 2013, 01:20:26 PM
wow smartass...guess what i've read dozens of FAN reviews...and the contras alwasy was more then the pros

but why am i talking to u we are just whining little bitches u dont want to chat with us in this forum :)

wich gives the question what the F are u doing here?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Kalawaki on Feb 08, 2013, 01:24:57 PM
Quote from: szkoki on Feb 08, 2013, 01:20:26 PM
wow smartass...guess what i've read dozens of FAN reviews...and the contras alwasy was more then the pros
Fan reviews.
Biased.

Quotebut why am i talking to u we are just whining little bitches u dont want to chat with us in this forum :)
That is because half of this forum complains worse then the Bungie forums.

Quotewich gives the question what the F are u doing here?
Unfortunatly this website seems to be the one that updates the most about the latest A/P/AvP/A:CM news. Additionally, i've been here for over 5 years.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Samus007 on Feb 08, 2013, 01:25:57 PM
Quote from: WeaN on Feb 08, 2013, 12:25:35 PM
Quote from: The Runner on Feb 08, 2013, 11:43:59 AM
Quote from: WeaN on Feb 08, 2013, 09:20:31 AM
I'm at Chapter 6 and so far I only encountered them in Chapters 2 and 3. Hopefully it stays that way.

Any new aliens encountered?
Standard Drones, Lurkers, Spitters, creepy explosive ones  and
Spoiler
something akin to a Praetorian in size with a skull face that acts as a boss you have to defeat using a power loader
[close]

I'm nearing the end of my playthrough ... seriously guys, this game is bad. Honestly.
And that's coming from a die hard fan, I played all principal games that this franchise spawned... this one is by far the worst. Bad graphics, bad level design, shit ennemy AI, difficulty is either stupid or non existent... it's unpolished as f**k, bugs and glitches everywhere, and the plot is a joke.
This game has nothing going on for it except wacky fan service. Yeah we got it, it's cool to go through the sets of the movie, but if Gearbox thought this would be enough they were either truly mistaking, or taking us players/fans for a bunch of fools.

... multiplayer better be fun (and not too laggy like AvP2010), or else people are going to feel buyer's remorse. Bad.

argh... It's THAT bad huh? Dammit!!!!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: szkoki on Feb 08, 2013, 01:29:04 PM
Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 08, 2013, 01:24:57 PM
Quote from: szkoki on Feb 08, 2013, 01:20:26 PM
wow smartass...guess what i've read dozens of FAN reviews...and the contras alwasy was more then the pros
Fan reviews.
Biased.

Quotebut why am i talking to u we are just whining little bitches u dont want to chat with us in this forum :)
That is because half of this forum complains worse then the Bungie forums.

Quotewich gives the question what the F are u doing here?
Unfortunatly this website seems to be the one that updates the most about the latest A/P/AvP/A:CM news. Additionally, i've been here for over 5 years.

u saw it was the case with Prometheus last year aswell , the EXACT same case...we got bad reviews from fans aswell so we dare to believe its not good, glitches are glitches, dumb enemies are dumb enemies , linear stages are linear stages, short gametime is short gametime...u cant argue with these...and mostly these are my problems here with ACM
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: teras on Feb 08, 2013, 01:29:46 PM
Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 08, 2013, 01:10:53 PM
All I see is inconsistent bitching from everyone on this forum day in, day out.

You are all whining about something you have yet to play.

Fan-based reviews are biased, everyone that is a fan usually sets their expectations way too goddamn high, and most company-based reviews require a bribe or a bandwagon to give a positive review.


Instead of being mindless sheep with no opinion for yourselves, worthlessly only taking the opinion of people that got an early copy or got paid a salary to write a few paragraph's about something, why don't you actually play the game before judging it? The entire point of video game reviews is pointless unless you share the exact same needs, preferences, and personality as the person writing the review.

Idiots.

And for those of you that have an early copy, I honestly don't give a flying f**k about Graphics, AI, or the like. I'm getting this game mostly for the multiplayer and because i'm a die-hard fan, so I would like to know what happens in the story. That's all.

So, what exactly are you doing in a thread called Fan Reviews?
??? ???
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Gren_86 on Feb 08, 2013, 01:29:50 PM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 08, 2013, 04:31:39 AM
I mean, it's one thing to have high hopes but it almost seems like people here want a GOTY type game. End of the day I just want a game that is solid. I think ACM will be decent enough for me.

If another AVP or Aliens game comes out though I would hope SEGA gets a top-notch developer. I think 343 or Bungie would do wonders with this kind of series.
My thoughts exactly.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Prime113 on Feb 08, 2013, 01:32:42 PM
Quote from: Gren_86 on Feb 08, 2013, 01:29:50 PM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 08, 2013, 04:31:39 AM
I mean, it's one thing to have high hopes but it almost seems like people here want a GOTY type game. End of the day I just want a game that is solid. I think ACM will be decent enough for me.

If another AVP or Aliens game comes out though I would hope SEGA gets a top-notch developer. I think 343 or Bungie would do wonders with this kind of series.
My thoughts exactly.

I think SEGA might be part of the problem. 343 won't be making it, as they are a halo only company I believe, and Bungie wants to do more original stuff. I say give it to Ubisoft. Ubisoft would be the shit!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Soffish on Feb 08, 2013, 01:33:30 PM
Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 08, 2013, 01:24:57 PM
Quote from: szkoki on Feb 08, 2013, 01:20:26 PM
wow smartass...guess what i've read dozens of FAN reviews...and the contras alwasy was more then the pros
Fan reviews.
Biased.

Quotebut why am i talking to u we are just whining little bitches u dont want to chat with us in this forum :)
That is because half of this forum complains worse then the Bungie forums.

Quotewich gives the question what the F are u doing here?
Unfortunatly this website seems to be the one that updates the most about the latest A/P/AvP/A:CM news. Additionally, i've been here for over 5 years.

Agreed with this guy, to be fair he has a point fan reviews are mostly subjective rather than objective, expectations set far to high. While currently looking at the game, yes it isn't going to be a 9 or 10. It's definitely not perfect but It still might be a half decent game. Personally I would wait for a official reviews since they are not subjective at all, they are paid to give a objective opinion on the game and look at both the positives and negatives.

Who knows, they might find more positives that you think. Just chill guys  :)

Edit: Yes I know this thread is based around fan reviews, we can still talk about published reviews. Hell some guy already posted a official article review in this forum.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WinterActual on Feb 08, 2013, 01:37:30 PM
Quote from: Prime113 on Feb 08, 2013, 01:32:42 PM
Quote from: Gren_86 on Feb 08, 2013, 01:29:50 PM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 08, 2013, 04:31:39 AM
I mean, it's one thing to have high hopes but it almost seems like people here want a GOTY type game. End of the day I just want a game that is solid. I think ACM will be decent enough for me.

If another AVP or Aliens game comes out though I would hope SEGA gets a top-notch developer. I think 343 or Bungie would do wonders with this kind of series.
My thoughts exactly.

I think SEGA might be part of the problem. 343 won't be making it, as they are a halo only company I believe, and Bungie wants to do more original stuff. I say give it to Ubisoft. Ubisoft would be the shit!
No, give it to ID how it was originally planned back in the 90s.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: szkoki on Feb 08, 2013, 01:37:55 PM
my fear is not based on opinions but facts

Quote from: Soffish on Feb 08, 2013, 01:33:30 PM
Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 08, 2013, 01:24:57 PM
Quote from: szkoki on Feb 08, 2013, 01:20:26 PM
wow smartass...guess what i've read dozens of FAN reviews...and the contras alwasy was more then the pros
Fan reviews.
Biased.

Quotebut why am i talking to u we are just whining little bitches u dont want to chat with us in this forum :)
That is because half of this forum complains worse then the Bungie forums.

Quotewich gives the question what the F are u doing here?
Unfortunatly this website seems to be the one that updates the most about the latest A/P/AvP/A:CM news. Additionally, i've been here for over 5 years.

Agreed with this guy, to be fair he has a point fan reviews are mostly subjective rather than objective, expectations set far to high. While currently looking at the game, yes it isn't going to be a 9 or 10. It's definitely not perfect but It still might be a half decent game. Personally I would wait for a official reviews since they are not subjective at all, they are paid to give a objective opinion on the game and look at both the positives and negatives.

Who knows, they might find more positives that you think. Just chill guys  :)



Quote from: szkoki on Feb 08, 2013, 01:29:04 PM
Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 08, 2013, 01:24:57 PM
Quote from: szkoki on Feb 08, 2013, 01:20:26 PM


u saw it was the case with Prometheus last year aswell , the EXACT same case...we got bad reviews from fans aswell so we dare to believe its not good, glitches are glitches, dumb enemies are dumb enemies , linear stages are linear stages, short gametime is short gametime...u cant argue with these...and mostly these are my problems here with ACM

Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Prime113 on Feb 08, 2013, 01:38:33 PM
Quote from: WinterActual on Feb 08, 2013, 01:37:30 PM
Quote from: Prime113 on Feb 08, 2013, 01:32:42 PM
Quote from: Gren_86 on Feb 08, 2013, 01:29:50 PM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 08, 2013, 04:31:39 AM
I mean, it's one thing to have high hopes but it almost seems like people here want a GOTY type game. End of the day I just want a game that is solid. I think ACM will be decent enough for me.

If another AVP or Aliens game comes out though I would hope SEGA gets a top-notch developer. I think 343 or Bungie would do wonders with this kind of series.
My thoughts exactly.

I think SEGA might be part of the problem. 343 won't be making it, as they are a halo only company I believe, and Bungie wants to do more original stuff. I say give it to Ubisoft. Ubisoft would be the shit!
No, give it to ID how it was originally planned back in the 90s.

Yeaaahh, I can dig on that, too.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WinterActual on Feb 08, 2013, 01:43:43 PM
I am wondering why no one's making an Aliens mod for DooM ]I[? id released its source code long time ago so everybody is able to do whatever he wants with the game, even to rebuild it from scratch. I am sure it can work out pretty well with the right team behind it.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: teras on Feb 08, 2013, 01:44:14 PM
Continuing with my PS3 impressions.

Just because the game doesn't stand up to the huge hype doesn't mean it is bad.
It does entertain as long as you don't expect to be wowed.

I'm on chapter 2 now (I play as slowly as I can to enjoy the atmosphere) and yes, there are gunfights with humans that are as generic as they come and will probably bore most of you.

I would like to point out that on the PS3 so far, I haven't experienced framedrops, glitches or notable aliasing.
I play on the "soldier" difficulty and although the game is not hard, there are some difficulty spikes here and there. For example, some Aliens may give you time to finish them but sometimes they will circle around you and attack fast, killing you with 2-3 blows.

I like the bro-talk in this game. It is consistent with how the movie portrayed the marines.

Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WinterActual on Feb 08, 2013, 01:54:10 PM
Can you tell me if the pre order bonuses are just an early unlocks? Just check if you can see the movie characters in the MP customization menu. Or if it says something like "Purchase to unlock". Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WeaN on Feb 08, 2013, 01:56:02 PM
They are nowhere to see in the vanilla character customization.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: teras on Feb 08, 2013, 01:58:51 PM
Quote from: WinterActual on Feb 08, 2013, 01:54:10 PM
Can you tell me if the pre order bonuses are just an early unlocks? Just check if you can see the movie characters in the MP customization menu. Or if it says something like "Purchase to unlock". Thanks in advance!

I haven't tried the MP menu yet, because it's probably not functional before the official release but i will give it a go.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: thecaffeinatedone on Feb 08, 2013, 02:02:25 PM
Not gonna lie, so far I'm pretty dissapointed. And I was really hoping to at least get a somewhat enjoyable experience. Gearbox's games haven't graphically wow'd me or anything so it's not that aspect so much as the AI and gameplay. God, your allies are pretty goddamned retarded at shooting. Oh...and the dialog is a bit...how should I put it? Theatrical? It's not nearly as bad as I pictured but still.... :B Hoping that we'd one day get an Aliens game that has some amount of natural-esque dialog that we've heard in Alien.
Definitely won't be buying the game anytime soon unless something comes along that blows my mind. Some actual PC gameplay would be nice, preferably in 1080p.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WinterActual on Feb 08, 2013, 02:05:39 PM
Quote from: WeaN on Feb 08, 2013, 01:56:02 PM
They are nowhere to see in the vanilla character customization.
What about the SHARP rifle or the Ripley's rifle?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: thecaffeinatedone on Feb 08, 2013, 02:12:48 PM
Damn, that's not good news at all. Ah well, with the recent gameplay I expected something sort of mediocre but solid-ish. Guess it's worse than that. Ah, well...it doesn't look like the Alien series will ever get a proper game. Such a long, long, long waste of time.
Welp, there's always mods and that other Alien game that's in developement.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Prime113 on Feb 08, 2013, 02:18:42 PM
Quote from: thecaffeinatedone on Feb 08, 2013, 02:12:48 PM
Welp, there's always mods and that other Alien game that's in developement.

What is that?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: thecaffeinatedone on Feb 08, 2013, 02:21:19 PM
QuoteWhat is that?

Too lazy to link. It doesn't have a name anyway, but it's being developed by Creative Assembly.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Salt The Fries on Feb 08, 2013, 02:21:46 PM
Quote from: Prime113 on Feb 08, 2013, 02:18:42 PM
Quote from: thecaffeinatedone on Feb 08, 2013, 02:12:48 PM
Welp, there's always mods and that other Alien game that's in developement.

What is that?

Quote from: Salt The Fries on Feb 08, 2013, 10:28:26 AM
The most PATHETIC thing is we all were mad how SEGA rushed AVP 2010 ahead of A:CM and we felt that AVP 2010 was indeed a rushed product make for an easy cash-in so in turn we expected even more from A:CM, to be finally this serious, very well-conceived game that is finally going to make the series justice...But guess not. We'll have to wait for yet another such instance!!! Which might never happen btw.

Oh and I wouldn't put too much hope in Creative Assembly's next Alien IP coz this is their console dev team having nothing in common with the team from Total War series and other quality PC games...Those console devs from that team made Viking: Battle for Asgard (70/100 metacritic), and Stormrise, that pathetic RTS for consoles (48/100 metacritic, 360 version, PC version got 42/100!) :D

This is yet another Alien IP but probably in works for next-gen consoles, it was meant to be a TPP game and more like Dead Space 1/2...But I wouldn't get my hopes up...
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Prime113 on Feb 08, 2013, 02:23:23 PM
Quote from: thecaffeinatedone on Feb 08, 2013, 02:21:19 PM
QuoteWhat is that?

Too lazy to link. It doesn't have a name anyway, but it's being developed by Creative Assembly.

That'll do, pig. That'll do.


SALT THE FRIES - Sometimes teams have bad games. I thought Viking was fun for what it was.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Terx2 on Feb 08, 2013, 02:24:12 PM
Quote from: WinterActual on Feb 08, 2013, 01:43:43 PM
I am wondering why no one's making an Aliens mod for DooM ]I[? id released its source code long time ago so everybody is able to do whatever he wants with the game, even to rebuild it from scratch. I am sure it can work out pretty well with the right team behind it.

I Beleieve someone has already made one for doom and doom 2 I just need to find the link again.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: thecaffeinatedone on Feb 08, 2013, 02:24:37 PM
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Feb 08, 2013, 02:21:46 PM
Quote from: Prime113 on Feb 08, 2013, 02:18:42 PM
Quote from: thecaffeinatedone on Feb 08, 2013, 02:12:48 PM
Welp, there's always mods and that other Alien game that's in developement.

What is that?

Quote from: Salt The Fries on Feb 08, 2013, 10:28:26 AM
The most PATHETIC thing is we all were mad how SEGA rushed AVP 2010 ahead of A:CM and we felt that AVP 2010 was indeed a rushed product make for an easy cash-in so in turn we expected even more from A:CM, to be finally this serious, very well-conceived game that is finally going to make the series justice...But guess not. We'll have to wait for yet another such instance!!! Which might never happen btw.

Oh and I wouldn't put too much hope in Creative Assembly's next Alien IP coz this is their console dev team having nothing in common with the team from Total War series and other quality PC games...Those console devs from that team made Viking: Battle for Asgard (70/100 metacritic), and Stormrise, that pathetic RTS for consoles (48/100 metacritic, 360 version, PC version got 42/100!) :D

This is yet another Alien IP but probably in works for next-gen consoles, it was meant to be a TPP game and more like Dead Space 1/2...But I wouldn't get my hopes up...

*Pours a bottle of scotch*
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgif-cdn.com%2F812.gif&hash=ac38a80197c7c93b8b3e1dd53b120eacf040261e)
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: xenogenicide on Feb 08, 2013, 02:43:37 PM
Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 08, 2013, 01:10:53 PM
All I see is inconsistent bitching from everyone on this forum day in, day out.

You are all whining about something you have yet to play.

Fan-based reviews are biased, everyone that is a fan usually sets their expectations way too goddamn high, and most company-based reviews require a bribe or a bandwagon to give a positive review.


Instead of being mindless sheep with no opinion for yourselves, worthlessly only taking the opinion of people that got an early copy or got paid a salary to write a few paragraph's about something, why don't you actually play the game before judging it? The entire point of video game reviews is pointless unless you share the exact same needs, preferences, and personality as the person writing the review.

Idiots.

And for those of you that have an early copy, I honestly don't give a flying f**k about Graphics, AI, or the like. I'm getting this game mostly for the multiplayer and because i'm a die-hard fan, so I would like to know what happens in the story. That's all.
yes this ^ love it eat it read it
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WeaN on Feb 08, 2013, 02:50:01 PM
Quote from: WinterActual on Feb 08, 2013, 02:05:39 PMWhat about the SHARP rifle or the Ripley's rifle?
You can use what they call "Legendary weapons" in MP once you find them in Campaign, such as Hudson's pulse rifle or Vasquez's smartgun, but the ones you mentionned I've yet to see in vanilla.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Salt The Fries on Feb 08, 2013, 02:53:47 PM
To folks who played the game: what about using sentries? Are we free to place them whenever we want? Is there any degree of freedom in welding objects? Or it is 100% up to the course of the story?

How does using sentries differ from games like RAGE where you could also use them?

Is there ANYTHING UNIQUE ABOUT THE GAME ANYMORE? Apart from having to pull out the motion tracker???
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ScardyFox on Feb 08, 2013, 02:58:12 PM
Quote from: Prime113 on Feb 08, 2013, 01:38:33 PM
Quote from: WinterActual on Feb 08, 2013, 01:37:30 PM
Quote from: Prime113 on Feb 08, 2013, 01:32:42 PM
Quote from: Gren_86 on Feb 08, 2013, 01:29:50 PM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 08, 2013, 04:31:39 AM
I mean, it's one thing to have high hopes but it almost seems like people here want a GOTY type game. End of the day I just want a game that is solid. I think ACM will be decent enough for me.

If another AVP or Aliens game comes out though I would hope SEGA gets a top-notch developer. I think 343 or Bungie would do wonders with this kind of series.
My thoughts exactly.

I think SEGA might be part of the problem. 343 won't be making it, as they are a halo only company I believe, and Bungie wants to do more original stuff. I say give it to Ubisoft. Ubisoft would be the shit!
No, give it to ID how it was originally planned back in the 90s.

Yeaaahh, I can dig on that, too.

I'd have Insomniac Games do it. In fact I would kill every single one of you here without hesitation for that.

Every one of you.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WeaN on Feb 08, 2013, 02:59:39 PM
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Feb 08, 2013, 02:53:47 PM
To folks who played the game: what about using sentries? Are we free to place them whenever we want? Is there any degree of freedom in welding objects? Or it is 100% up to the course of the story?

How does using sentries differ from games like RAGE where you could also use them?

Is there ANYTHING UNIQUE ABOUT THE GAME ANYMORE? Apart from having to pull out the motion tracker???
Yeah you can place sentries wherever you like... the first time you place one is just some kind of tutorial that's why the spot is highlighted. I guess that's good news... somehow.
You only get one at a time though. Maybe that's different in coop. Dunno, I only played 1P.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WinterActual on Feb 08, 2013, 03:02:35 PM
Quote from: Terx2 on Feb 08, 2013, 02:24:12 PM

I Beleieve someone has already made one for doom and doom 2 I just need to find the link again.
Yes I know about the DooM 2 mod, but I am talking about some other stuff  :laugh:

Quote from: WeaN on Feb 08, 2013, 02:50:01 PM

You can use what they call "Legendary weapons" in MP once you find them in Campaign, such as Hudson's pulse rifle or Vasquez's smartgun, but the ones you mentionned I've yet to see in vanilla.
Yep but I thought the Ripley's weapon is not part of the legendary weapons for some reason  :laugh:
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WeaN on Feb 08, 2013, 03:05:49 PM
I guess it's a preorder/DLC weapon, hence why it wouldn't appear in vanilla. The other Legendary weapons are ingame unlockables - Hudson's pulse rifle, Hick's shotgun, Vasquez's smartgun, Gorman's pistol - all of those you can unlock and use in MP once you find them in Campaign.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: DemonicD13 on Feb 08, 2013, 03:17:02 PM
Leeroy712Plays
Part 7 is going up.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: saintbenzie on Feb 08, 2013, 03:27:00 PM
To everyone still in denial and saying everyone should make up there mind about the game by playing and ignoring reviews. When 90% of people say the game is not very good it is safe to assume the game is not very good. Some of the gameplay on youtube shows the games mishaps and downfalls very clearly. Yes there is still fun to be had but as a game and being ranked against other games it obviously is not up to par. When a game takes 8 years to make there are going to be problems.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: xenogenicide on Feb 08, 2013, 03:30:23 PM
has anybody tried to play online i just keep hearing the same SP bullshit blah blah blah we know that its terrible how about some MP maybe we can get something people wont complain about
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Kalawaki on Feb 08, 2013, 03:30:48 PM
Quote from: saintbenzie on Feb 08, 2013, 03:27:00 PM
To everyone still in denial and saying everyone should make up there mind about the game by playing and ignoring reviews. When 90% of people say the game is not very good it is safe to assume the game is not very good. Some of the gameplay on youtube shows the games mishaps and downfalls very clearly. Yes there is still fun to be had but as a game and being ranked against other games it obviously is not up to par. When a game takes 8 years to make there are going to be problems.

When 90% of america's congressmen vote to censor the internet without having any idea how the internet works, clearly the internet needs to be censored regardless.

>your logic
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: xenogenicide on Feb 08, 2013, 03:32:31 PM
Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 08, 2013, 03:30:48 PM
Quote from: saintbenzie on Feb 08, 2013, 03:27:00 PM
To everyone still in denial and saying everyone should make up there mind about the game by playing and ignoring reviews. When 90% of people say the game is not very good it is safe to assume the game is not very good. Some of the gameplay on youtube shows the games mishaps and downfalls very clearly. Yes there is still fun to be had but as a game and being ranked against other games it obviously is not up to par. When a game takes 8 years to make there are going to be problems.

When 90% of america's congressmen vote to censor the internet without having any idea how the internet works, clearly the internet needs to be censored regardless.

>your logic
lol i like this guy he's a smartass
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WinterActual on Feb 08, 2013, 03:33:41 PM
Quote from: WeaN on Feb 08, 2013, 03:05:49 PM
I guess it's a preorder/DLC weapon, hence why it wouldn't appear in vanilla. The other Legendary weapons are ingame unlockables - Hudson's pulse rifle, Hick's shotgun, Vasquez's smartgun, Gorman's pistol - all of those you can unlock and use in MP once you find them in Campaign.
I thought the smartgun can be acquired only by picking it up from the ground. The way you are saying it it seems like you can select Vasquez' smartun as default weapon  :o
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ScardyFox on Feb 08, 2013, 03:34:42 PM
Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 08, 2013, 03:30:48 PM
Quote from: saintbenzie on Feb 08, 2013, 03:27:00 PM
To everyone still in denial and saying everyone should make up there mind about the game by playing and ignoring reviews. When 90% of people say the game is not very good it is safe to assume the game is not very good. Some of the gameplay on youtube shows the games mishaps and downfalls very clearly. Yes there is still fun to be had but as a game and being ranked against other games it obviously is not up to par. When a game takes 8 years to make there are going to be problems.

When 90% of america's congressmen vote to censor the internet without having any idea how the internet works, clearly the internet needs to be censored regardless.

>your logic


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lf_KrGP61uo# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lf_KrGP61uo#)
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WeaN on Feb 08, 2013, 03:36:22 PM
Quote from: WinterActual on Feb 08, 2013, 03:33:41 PMI thought the smartgun can be acquired only by picking it up from the ground. The way you are saying it it seems like you can select Vasquez' smartun as default weapon  :o
Actually you're right, it was a mistake - I was listing the Legendary Weapons you find in SP - but since smartguns can't be used as starting weapons in MP, you can't use Vasquez's either, yeah.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: saintbenzie on Feb 08, 2013, 03:38:58 PM
Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 08, 2013, 03:30:48 PM
Quote from: saintbenzie on Feb 08, 2013, 03:27:00 PM
To everyone still in denial and saying everyone should make up there mind about the game by playing and ignoring reviews. When 90% of people say the game is not very good it is safe to assume the game is not very good. Some of the gameplay on youtube shows the games mishaps and downfalls very clearly. Yes there is still fun to be had but as a game and being ranked against other games it obviously is not up to par. When a game takes 8 years to make there are going to be problems.

When 90% of america's congressmen vote to censor the internet without having any idea how the internet works, clearly the internet needs to be censored regardless.

>your logic

It's different when everyone here is a fan of the Aliens franchise and has watched this game for years and years to watch it age and grow up into a sub-par game. It's more or less people who love Aliens and were hoping and praying for a good game. Watch LeeRoy's video and watch him go from being hella excited to gradually figuring out it is not an overall "Good" game. As a game it stands with all other games an also stands with Aliens/AvP games. I'm buying the game and I will still have fun with it but that's not to say it's going to be a Great game. Everyone is entitled to their opinions but when you go on a thread entitled "Fan Reviews" and say reviews/opinions mean nothing it makes no sense.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WinterActual on Feb 08, 2013, 03:53:08 PM
QuoteCompleted it - 5.75/10

It gets slightly better; open spaces, the story gets more interesting and you get some new weapons. But thats about it... so is it worth playing? Well, if you don't have anything else to play, sure Smile
11 missions, took me about 6-7 hours.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: xenogenicide on Feb 08, 2013, 03:55:19 PM
that doesnt sound to bad im ok with it idk about some others but im good with that
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: MR EL1M1NATOR on Feb 08, 2013, 04:03:46 PM
Even though this game hasn't looked that great for the past year, I am still disappointed at just how lazy and generic it seems to have turned out to be.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: DRAKE M. on Feb 08, 2013, 04:17:51 PM
All I know is that I'm gonna be playing it on my bad ass PC so it's gonna look a hell of a lot better than the console versions....will probably get more updates as well. I'm also planning on playing it with friends via 4 player coop so the squad AI doesn't matter to me at all. All I can say to you console guys is.....you shoulda got the PC version.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: teras on Feb 08, 2013, 04:25:25 PM
Quote from: DRAKE M. on Feb 08, 2013, 04:17:51 PM
All I know is that I'm gonna be playing it on my bad ass PC so it's gonna look a hell of a lot better than the console versions....will probably get more updates as well. I'm also planning on playing it with friends via 4 player coop so the squad AI doesn't matter to me at all. All I can say to you console guys is.....you shoulda got the PC version.

I can see how that makes perfect sense  :laugh:
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: SPECIAL FORCES on Feb 08, 2013, 04:29:46 PM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.diablogrinder.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F06%2Fpatience_small.jpg&hash=85d32f82bf592c407a6adeda9e9812602b9416a2)

So...New Xenos? at least not those we already know off?
Any story twist?...What about Hicks/bag ect?
Engineers?...Alien 3/Prometheus connections?

Guys...somebody? The end of the game/story? How did the egg end up there finally?
(since this is the true sequel of Aliens  :laugh: )

AAA?????
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: reecebomb on Feb 08, 2013, 04:33:28 PM
From now on i can only view Randy Pitchford as the gaming equivalent of David Brent (i am big fan btw). Both are charming but not to be taken seriosly.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwithfriendship.com%2Fimages%2Fb%2F9282%2FRicky-Gervais-picture.jpg&hash=b1b84fd016e0b0876690265e03566696fb3368e4)
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: OpenMaw on Feb 08, 2013, 04:34:08 PM
Well, it's more a sequel to Alien 3 in terms of it's placement in chronology. Spiritually it's a sequel to Aliens, but... Well, questions like "How the eggs got on the Sulaco" may have been ignored entirely, or be only vaguely dealt with. I don't know yet, I have not yet received my copy, but what I've seen in the playthroughs seems to indicate they probably don't go into detail.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: DRAKE M. on Feb 08, 2013, 04:37:56 PM
Quote from: teras on Feb 08, 2013, 04:25:25 PM
Quote from: DRAKE M. on Feb 08, 2013, 04:17:51 PM
All I know is that I'm gonna be playing it on my bad ass PC so it's gonna look a hell of a lot better than the console versions....will probably get more updates as well. I'm also planning on playing it with friends via 4 player coop so the squad AI doesn't matter to me at all. All I can say to you console guys is.....you shoulda got the PC version.

I can see how that makes perfect sense  :laugh:

Yep, I'm laughing...everyone has a PC these day man and the specs on this game are so low that you really don't need that great of a computer to play it. Even on medium settings, the game will probably look better that a console.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WinterActual on Feb 08, 2013, 04:41:39 PM
Quote from: DRAKE M. on Feb 08, 2013, 04:37:56 PM

Yep, I'm laughing...everyone has a PC these day man and the specs on this game are so low that you really don't need that great of a computer to play it. Even on medium settings, the game will probably look better that a console.
This
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: 9th_Stew on Feb 08, 2013, 04:44:59 PM
Quote from: reecebomb on Feb 08, 2013, 04:33:28 PM
From now on i can only view Randy Pitchford as the gaming equivalent of David Brent (i am big fan btw). Both are charming but not to be taken seriosly.

http://withfriendship.com/images/b/9282/Ricky-Gervais-picture.jpg

lol
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: teras on Feb 08, 2013, 04:46:09 PM
Not on my 7 year old Acer Pentium M 768MB RAM notebook  :P


Quote from: reecebomb on Feb 08, 2013, 04:33:28 PM
From now on i can only view Randy Pitchford as the gaming equivalent of David Brent (i am big fan btw). Both are charming but not to be taken seriosly.

http://withfriendship.com/images/b/9282/Ricky-Gervais-picture.jpg

Vote Brent for President  :laugh:
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WeaN on Feb 08, 2013, 05:12:18 PM
Warning for major spoilers upcoming guys... be advised.

Quote from: SPECIAL FORCES on Feb 08, 2013, 04:29:46 PMSo...New Xenos? at least not those we already know off?
List of Xenos :
Spoiler
Drone
Lurker
Spitter
Explosive (forgot its name)
Massive Rhino type (forgot its name)
Queen
[close]

Quote from: SPECIAL FORCES on Feb 08, 2013, 04:29:46 PMAny story twist?...What about Hicks/bag ect?
Spoiler

Hicks is the bag guy. He's being held by Wey-Yu for most of the game until you save him, he then joins the squad as an NPC and fights alongside you for the rest of the game.
The explaination on how he's alive : He says Wey-Yu hijacked the Sulaco when it was around Fury and replaced him by somebody else - so the body from Aliens3 isn't actually Hicks, according to the game.
Whoop Dee f**king Doo, nicely played Gearbox...
[close]

Quote from: SPECIAL FORCES on Feb 08, 2013, 04:29:46 PMEngineers?...Alien 3/Prometheus connections?
Only Prometheus connection is this (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=47011.msg1607089#msg1607089).

Quote from: SPECIAL FORCES on Feb 08, 2013, 04:29:46 PMGuys...somebody? The end of the game/story? How did the egg end up there finally?
(since this is the true sequel of Aliens  :laugh: )

Spoiler
Nothing on how the egg got into the Sulaco.
End of the game is basically confronting Mister Weyland, realizing he's not the real thing and just another cyborg, shooting him in the face, then Bishop offers to plug into what's left of it to learn more about Wey-Yu's plans. Game ends on Bishop saying he got everything.
[close]

Quality plot, no doubt about it.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: SPECIAL FORCES on Feb 08, 2013, 05:24:29 PM
Quote from: WeaN on Feb 08, 2013, 05:12:18 PM
Warning for major spoilers upcoming guys... be advised.

Quote from: SPECIAL FORCES on Feb 08, 2013, 04:29:46 PMSo...New Xenos? at least not those we already know off?
List of Xenos :
Spoiler
Drone
Lurker
Spitter
Explosive (forgot its name)
Massive Rhino type (forgot its name)
Queen
[close]


Quote from: SPECIAL FORCES on Feb 08, 2013, 04:29:46 PMAny story twist?...What about Hicks/bag ect?
Spoiler

Hicks is the bag guy. He's being held by Wey-Yu for most of the game until you save him, he then joins the squad as an NPC and fights alongside you for the rest of the game.
The explaination on how he's alive : He says Wey-Yu hijacked the Sulaco when it was around Fury and replaced him by somebody else - so the body from Aliens3 isn't actually Hicks, according to the game.
Whoop Dee f**king Doo, nicely played Gearbox...
[close]

Quote from: SPECIAL FORCES on Feb 08, 2013, 04:29:46 PMEngineers?...Alien 3/Prometheus connections?
Only Prometheus connection is this (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=47011.msg1607089#msg1607089).

Quote from: SPECIAL FORCES on Feb 08, 2013, 04:29:46 PMGuys...somebody? The end of the game/story? How did the egg end up there finally?
(since this is the true sequel of Aliens  :laugh: )

Spoiler
Nothing on how the egg got into the Sulaco.
End of the game is basically confronting Mister Weyland, realizing he's not the real thing and just another cyborg, shooting him in the face, then Bishop offers to plug into what's left of it to learn more about Wey-Yu's plans. Game ends on Bishop saying he got everything.
[close]

Quality plot, no doubt about it.


Thank you.To be honest,i realize all of us who tried to explain the story trailer posted more original explanations than the one Gearbox chose.
Something about the story...:
Spoiler
If WY boarded the ship,maybe they put the eggs?
[close]
btw i forgot to ask one more thing...remember that pic with the facehugger with the ''sword'' tail?  Anything about it?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: RedHood on Feb 08, 2013, 05:25:47 PM
Has anyone ever heard of a game called Deadly Premonition? Looks horrible got 1 & 2 ratings from major game review companies. It ended up being a cult classic and now there releasing a directors cut. The point is, it doesn't have to look amazing or get good reviews from everybody. It depends on your mindset and how you go into the game. I think the multiplayer looks sick and I'm going to be tearing it up. I like how they force you to use teamwork to win unlike other multiplayers. So if you RAGE quit, that means your not using the fundamentals of battle.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WeaN on Feb 08, 2013, 05:27:26 PM
Quote from: SPECIAL FORCES on Feb 08, 2013, 05:24:29 PM
Thank you.To be honest,i realize all of us who tried to explain the story trailer posted more original explanations than the one Gearbox chose.
btw i forgot to ask one more thing...remember that pic with the facehugger with the ''sword'' tail?  Anything about it?
Not sure what you're referring to... I have to admit I didn't follow the promotion/hype too much, so I may not have heard about that... and I don't remember seeing any strange looking facehugger during my playthrough. Got a pic ?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: OpenMaw on Feb 08, 2013, 05:28:29 PM
Quote from: Sgt.Camacho on Feb 08, 2013, 05:25:47 PM
Has anyone ever heard of a game called Deadly Premonition? Looks horrible got 1 & 2 ratings from major game review companies. It ended up being a cult classic and now there releasing a directors cut. The point is, it doesn't have to look amazing or get good reviews from everybody. It depends on your mindset and how you go into the game. I think the multiplayer looks sick and I'm going to be tearing it up. I like how they force you to use teamwork to win unlike other multiplayers. So if you RAGE quit, that means your not using the fundamentals of battle.

On the other hand, shoddy AI/weak sauce aliens, limited multiplayer maps, very linear and fairly short campaign, expensive DLC...
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WeaN on Feb 08, 2013, 05:30:55 PM
Disappointing SP aside, I could see this game becoming as popular as AvP2 if the MP delivers. It has interesting mechanics, fun gametypes, lots of customization and cool maps. It only needs a decent netcode. I guess time will tell.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: 9th_Stew on Feb 08, 2013, 05:34:19 PM
AVP2 had a crap net code
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WinterActual on Feb 08, 2013, 05:38:29 PM
ACM MP may deliver on the consoles but I doubt it on the PC. Its p2p based on the PC too so it will be pain in the ass to find fellow players.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: SPECIAL FORCES on Feb 08, 2013, 05:41:35 PM
Quote from: WeaN on Feb 08, 2013, 05:27:26 PM
Quote from: SPECIAL FORCES on Feb 08, 2013, 05:24:29 PM
Thank you.To be honest,i realize all of us who tried to explain the story trailer posted more original explanations than the one Gearbox chose.
btw i forgot to ask one more thing...remember that pic with the facehugger with the ''sword'' tail?  Anything about it?
Not sure what you're referring to... I have to admit I didn't follow the promotion/hype too much, so I may not have heard about that... and I don't remember seeing any strange looking facehugger during my playthrough. Got a pic ?

I'm very sorry,i just cant remember who uploaded the pic.It was a hugger flying towards our face but it was like he was gonna use his tail for the kill and the end of the tail was like the tip of a sword.I'm sure someone will remember that pic too.
Probably a pic from a trailer.

Something about the story...:
Spoiler
If WY boarded the ship,maybe they put the eggs?
[close]
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: OpenMaw on Feb 08, 2013, 05:45:12 PM
Quote from: SPECIAL FORCES on Feb 08, 2013, 05:41:35 PM
Something about the story...:
Spoiler
If WY boarded the ship,maybe they put the eggs?
[close]

Doesn't fit the timeline of events.
Spoiler
WY jacked the ship after Alien 3 happened.
[close]
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: PLEXI on Feb 08, 2013, 05:45:22 PM
QuoteI'm very sorry,i just cant remember who uploaded the pic.It was a hugger flying towards our face but it was like he was gonna use his tail for the kill and the end of the tail was like the tip of a sword.I'm sure someone will remember that pic too.
Probably a pic from a trailer.
Reading too much into it. That's just them conserving polygons in conjunction with asthetics in spots that you usually won't notice while playing..
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Gren_86 on Feb 08, 2013, 05:46:21 PM
I think that a collaboration between ''Ubisoft'' and ''Monolith'' or ''4A Games'' would serve the franchise justice.
So you don't have to look the m up, A4 Games are responsible for Metro 2033. The only downer was the retarded human AI in SP, everything else was simply gorgeous.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: RedHood on Feb 08, 2013, 05:50:07 PM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 08, 2013, 05:28:29 PM
Quote from: Sgt.Camacho on Feb 08, 2013, 05:25:47 PM
Has anyone ever heard of a game called Deadly Premonition? Looks horrible got 1 & 2 ratings from major game review companies. It ended up being a cult classic and now there releasing a directors cut. The point is, it doesn't have to look amazing or get good reviews from everybody. It depends on your mindset and how you go into the game. I think the multiplayer looks sick and I'm going to be tearing it up. I like how they force you to use teamwork to win unlike other multiplayers. So if you RAGE quit, that means your not using the fundamentals of battle.

On the other hand, shoddy AI/weak sauce aliens, limited multiplayer maps, very linear and fairly short campaign, expensive DLC...

Aliens are suppose to be weak, thats why they attack in numbers. So put the game on Ultimate Badass mode. This isn't at you but I hate it when people say "weak AI" when there playing on normal. The DLC was ridiculously priced and that's why I'm getting the season pass and I think if people blowup SEGA, and Gearboxes twitter, Facebook and mailbox then they will add more and maybe do some improvements. POWER TO THE PEOPLE! :P
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: teras on Feb 08, 2013, 05:51:23 PM
I would love to see Guerilla Games take a shot at the Alien franchise.
Killzone 2 and 3 look amazing and they've stated that they are huge Aliens fans too..
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: DemonicD13 on Feb 08, 2013, 05:54:03 PM
It's starting to sound like a bad case of bait and switch. :(
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WinterActual on Feb 08, 2013, 05:54:21 PM
They look amazing FOR A CONSOLE titles and their gameplay is a CoD ripoff. ACM will end up just like now.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: teras on Feb 08, 2013, 05:57:39 PM
Quote from: Sgt.Camacho on Feb 08, 2013, 05:50:07 PM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 08, 2013, 05:28:29 PM
Quote from: Sgt.Camacho on Feb 08, 2013, 05:25:47 PM
Has anyone ever heard of a game called Deadly Premonition? Looks horrible got 1 & 2 ratings from major game review companies. It ended up being a cult classic and now there releasing a directors cut. The point is, it doesn't have to look amazing or get good reviews from everybody. It depends on your mindset and how you go into the game. I think the multiplayer looks sick and I'm going to be tearing it up. I like how they force you to use teamwork to win unlike other multiplayers. So if you RAGE quit, that means your not using the fundamentals of battle.

On the other hand, shoddy AI/weak sauce aliens, limited multiplayer maps, very linear and fairly short campaign, expensive DLC...

Aliens are suppose to be weak, thats why they attack in numbers. So put the game on Ultimate Badass mode. This isn't at you but I hate it when people say "weak AI" when there playing on normal. The DLC was ridiculously priced and that's why I'm getting the season pass and I think if people blowup SEGA, and Gearboxes twitter, Facebook and mailbox then they will add more and maybe do some improvements. POWER TO THE PEOPLE! :P

So you thing the DLC is ridiculously priced and you are buying the season pass, which is what they wanted all along.
Nice logic there.

Weak AI means weak AI. It's not just about the difficulty, it's about how the npc's move and react to the player.
For example the Aliens could be moving smart reacting to your actions accordingly while still not being able to do a lot of damage. The difference is that you would have more challenge to actually hunt them down and put them in your sights, making the game more "real like" in a sense.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Ash 937 on Feb 08, 2013, 05:58:17 PM
Wow...

From reading the reviews, it sounds like the storyline in A:CM completely lacks innovation.  I agree that this game will make Alien3 a better film (as Pitchford claimed) but only in the sense that it shows us how much worse people can handle the franchise material they're given.

I will not count A:CM as canon but...

Spoiler
Is there any explanation as to why Hicks is retrieved from the Sulaco while Ripley is left to her to own fate on Fury 161?  Surely, she would be more valuable to WY than Hicks...as a matter of fact, that point was an entire sub plot in Alien3.  WY wanted her back and had a huge intent to retrieve her alive after her EEV was jettisoned.

And whose body is in Hick's cryotube on Fury 161 then?  Clearly, there was an opportunity to provide an awesomely gruesome, Fincher-esque subplot to explain that...I mean, the jig would've been up if his face was recognizable as opposed to being smashed in the crash.  But how would WY have known he'd be unrecognizable after the fact?  If they wanted a cover-up, it would be in their best interest to disfigure someone first and then make the switch...its an interesting thing to think about and a great opportunity to make something else out of the story...but I don't think GBX knows much about subplots from what I'm reading here. LOL

Still, do we get any answers for these questions?
[close]
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Salt The Fries on Feb 08, 2013, 06:00:32 PM
Will that game be worse than Aliens: Infestation on Nintendo DS? I found that game to be fun even if somewhat formulaic later on, a solid 7.5/8 out of 10...
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: teras on Feb 08, 2013, 06:00:58 PM
Quote from: WinterActual on Feb 08, 2013, 05:54:21 PM
They look amazing FOR A CONSOLE titles and their gameplay is a CoD ripoff. ACM will end up just like now.

It's not just the graphics. The enemies have decent AI and the combat is meaty. The player you control has weight in his movement and shooting the Helgans actually feels like your bullets punch into something. It's a bit hard to explain if you haven't played those games.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: DemonicD13 on Feb 08, 2013, 06:03:20 PM
Am I to take it that this game has no connection to Aliens Infestation? It seems that it may have been a better game. How Is Alien 3 a better movie now?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: OpenMaw on Feb 08, 2013, 06:04:00 PM
Quote from: Sgt.Camacho on Feb 08, 2013, 05:50:07 PM
Aliens are suppose to be weak, thats why they attack in numbers. So put the game on Ultimate Badass mode. This isn't at you but I hate it when people say "weak AI" when there playing on normal. The DLC was ridiculously priced and that's why I'm getting the season pass and I think if people blowup SEGA, and Gearboxes twitter, Facebook and mailbox then they will add more and maybe do some improvements. POWER TO THE PEOPLE! :P

No. Aliens are supposed to be deadly. Yeah, you shoot them, they die. Beyond that, they are supposed to be cunning foes. Otherwise what is the point? They should be far more dynamic and dangerous. Not to mention aggressive. I've seen both the human AI and the Alien AI walk past eachother, go around corners, stop and wait right in your line of fire. That is unacceptable in 2013. Absolutely unacceptable.


Quote from: DemonicD13 on Feb 08, 2013, 06:03:20 PM
Am I to take it that this game has no connection to Aliens Infestation? It seems that it may have been a better game. How Is Alien 3 a better movie now?

Initially Infestation was entitled "Aliens : Colonial Marines" and intended to be a portable version of it, but when A:CM was delayed, things changed.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: DemonicD13 on Feb 08, 2013, 06:09:33 PM
Did Leeroy712Plays get a cease and desist order?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: SPECIAL FORCES on Feb 08, 2013, 06:15:31 PM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 08, 2013, 05:45:12 PM
Quote from: SPECIAL FORCES on Feb 08, 2013, 05:41:35 PM
Something about the story...:
Spoiler
If WY boarded the ship,maybe they put the eggs?
[close]

Doesn't fit the timeline of events.
Spoiler
WY jacked the ship after Alien 3 happened.
[close]

WeaN wrote that:
Spoiler
The explaination on how he's alive : He says Wey-Yu hijacked the Sulaco when it was around Fury and replaced him by somebody else - so the body from Aliens3 isn't actually Hicks, according to the game.
[close]

So how did it happen After alien 3?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: OpenMaw on Feb 08, 2013, 06:20:26 PM
Quote from: SPECIAL FORCES on Feb 08, 2013, 06:15:31 PM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 08, 2013, 05:45:12 PM
Quote from: SPECIAL FORCES on Feb 08, 2013, 05:41:35 PM
Something about the story...:
Spoiler
If WY boarded the ship,maybe they put the eggs?
[close]

Doesn't fit the timeline of events.
Spoiler
WY jacked the ship after Alien 3 happened.
[close]

WeaN wrote that:
Spoiler
The explaination on how he's alive : He says Wey-Yu hijacked the Sulaco when it was around Fury and replaced him by somebody else - so the body from Aliens3 isn't actually Hicks, according to the game.
[close]

So how did it happen After alien 3?

That really doesn't add up with the events of Alien 3 at all. So they got on board the ship, replaced Hicks, let/or lost Ripley to Fury 161, were still in the area obviously, but didn't bother to retrieve her until several days later.

Yeah. Okay. Sure. Really makes a lot of sense.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Gren_86 on Feb 08, 2013, 06:25:14 PM
Quote from: WinterActual on Feb 08, 2013, 05:54:21 PM
They look amazing FOR A CONSOLE titles and their gameplay is a CoD ripoff. ACM will end up just like now.
Dude, the graphics of Killzone 3 are phenomenal and not just for consoles. Guerrilla Games, were using for the physics a modified Havok engine which is one of the best on the market. I can't speak of gameplay though, don't own a PS but the visuals are stunning even within the console's restrictions.
Resistance and Killzone are the only two games that have tempted me to buy a PS.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: RedHood on Feb 08, 2013, 06:27:06 PM
QuoteSo you thing the DLC is ridiculously priced and you are buying the season pass, which is what they wanted all along.
Nice logic

I should have explained myself better. It's always smarter to get a season pass or wait for the DVD release of DLCs. Buying DLCs individually are usually not the way to go. Who cares if "they" are hustling us, they aren't the only ones slanging DLCs or other products.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.persephonemagazine.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F09%2Fat-me-bro-you-come.jpeg&hash=1894e069c2b2152c940ebb05d816f9212d60ed96)
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: SPECIAL FORCES on Feb 08, 2013, 06:29:22 PM
I think we can all agree about the story OpenMaw that:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdamonday.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fsmells-like-bullshit.gif&hash=03382c5d654c2b68a8f484519441926b04dc4931)
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: OpenMaw on Feb 08, 2013, 06:30:58 PM
Quote from: Sgt.Camacho on Feb 08, 2013, 06:27:06 PM
Who cares if "they" are hustling us,

This right here is exactly what is wrong with the mentality of the mass consumer market.

We should care, and just because others are doing it doesn't make it right. And the fact that people roll over everytime this kind of thing happens. every. single. time. Just shows them they can get away with it.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Gren_86 on Feb 08, 2013, 06:45:07 PM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 08, 2013, 06:30:58 PM
Quote from: Sgt.Camacho on Feb 08, 2013, 06:27:06 PM
Who cares if "they" are hustling us,

This right here is exactly what is wrong with the mentality of the mass consumer market.

We should care, and just because others are doing it doesn't make it right. And the fact that people roll over everytime this kind of thing happens. every. single. time. Just shows them they can get away with it.
True, we mustn't reward failure, generally speaking.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Frog on Feb 08, 2013, 06:47:38 PM
Eeeeesh.  This sounds horrendous!!!  I watched part of that 2 hour video on IGN the other day and was amazed at how horrible the graphics, animation, and textures are.  DOOM3 BFG runs at 60fps and looks a lot better than this.

I'd probably still buy it if it had Horde mode, but no way I am I paying $75 for a 6 hour, linear, scripted game with a "possibly" good horde mode.

Heck, now that I know Bug Hunt is not in the game, I'd be hesitant to pick it up at $30 cause I'd still have to pay $15 for the mode I care about.

Major dissapointment.

Is there a Horde mode in AVP2010?  If so how many maps does it have?

I'll have to see if my buddy's indie store will cancel this for me.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: RedHood on Feb 08, 2013, 06:48:00 PM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 08, 2013, 06:30:58 PM
Quote from: Sgt.Camacho on Feb 08, 2013, 06:27:06 PM
Who cares if "they" are hustling us,

This right here is exactly what is wrong with the mentality of the mass consumer market.

We should care, and just because others are doing it doesn't make it right. And the fact that people roll over everytime this kind of thing happens. every. single. time. Just shows them they can get away with it.

And what's your plan to stop the MAN from working us? Trust me I don't like being used or manipulated just like the other guy, but its about making money. Soooo... Dew the Dew! I just made $10 on that comment.  :laugh:

On another note are you going to buy the DLC or season pass?  :P
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: OpenMaw on Feb 08, 2013, 06:52:31 PM
Quote from: Sgt.Camacho on Feb 08, 2013, 06:48:00 PM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 08, 2013, 06:30:58 PM
Quote from: Sgt.Camacho on Feb 08, 2013, 06:27:06 PM
Who cares if "they" are hustling us,

This right here is exactly what is wrong with the mentality of the mass consumer market.

We should care, and just because others are doing it doesn't make it right. And the fact that people roll over everytime this kind of thing happens. every. single. time. Just shows them they can get away with it.

And what's your plan to stop the MAN from working us? Trust me I don't like being used or manipulated just like the other guy, but its about making money. Soooo... Dew the Dew! I just made $10 on that comment.  :laugh:

On another note are you going to buy the DLC or season pass?  :P

If we all actually, ya know, got together a community and actually made the tough choice of NOT BUYING their stuff until they dropped their prices, things would likely change. That's how you fight that kind of crap, and it does work. It has worked in the past many times. Developers, and particularly publishers, get really scared when a community organizes and gives their high price tags the finger.

Neither. Not until I know absolutely what the game is like for myself 100%, and what the DLC is offering, 100%.

Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Ash 937 on Feb 08, 2013, 06:56:14 PM
Before we all collectively agree that this game is a failure...

...be mindful that the game spent years in development hell (over a decade if you go as far back as the planned PS2 version).  It's also based on a Sci-Fi film that came out in the 27 years ago, well before the majority of current gamers were even born.  Public interest and advocacy for getting this game developed, hyped, and released was probably never going to be easy thing for any developer.  Perhaps we should consider ourselves fortunate that we even got a playable game out of this at all...
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: MR EL1M1NATOR on Feb 08, 2013, 06:58:23 PM
Quote from: DemonicD13 on Feb 08, 2013, 06:09:33 PM
Did Leeroy712Plays get a cease and desist order?

No, he made those vids private and if you put your email on his first vid he will let you see them. I have no idea why he is doing this.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Gren_86 on Feb 08, 2013, 07:02:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y74MZsTCCtw# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y74MZsTCCtw#)
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: OpenMaw on Feb 08, 2013, 07:03:41 PM
Quote from: Ash 937 on Feb 08, 2013, 06:56:14 PM
Before we all collectively agree that this game is a failure...

Success or failure aside, the prices are terrible.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: RidgeTop on Feb 08, 2013, 07:05:46 PM
How are the prices any worse than other major game releases?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: MR EL1M1NATOR on Feb 08, 2013, 07:09:03 PM
For now, I don't think it will be too long before prices plummet. Very glad I didn't pre-order this, but I think I will still check it out as MP looks OK.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Predaker on Feb 08, 2013, 07:21:45 PM
It's disappointing escape mode only has two maps without DLC because multiplayer is what will keep me playing A:CM.

As for Brian Burleson saying there would be a ton of maps, two feels more like the bare minimum. Although this is the same person who said there were no playable females in A:CM.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: RedHood on Feb 08, 2013, 07:23:00 PM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 08, 2013, 07:03:41 PM
Quote from: Ash 937 on Feb 08, 2013, 06:56:14 PM
Before we all collectively agree that this game is a failure...

Success or failure aside, the prices are terrible.

Your stuck on the prices, Black Ops 2 Revolution DLC was the same price (it came with 4 maps, a new Zombie mode and a new weapon). As long as the Bug Hunt DLC delivers I really don't see a price difference from what other games have already done. I guess we will all just have to wait and see.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Gren_86 on Feb 08, 2013, 07:34:22 PM
Quote from: Predaker on Feb 08, 2013, 07:21:45 PM
It's disappointing escape mode only has two maps without DLC because multiplayer is what will keep me playing A:CM.

As for Brian Burleson saying there would be a ton of maps, two feels more like the bare minimum. Although this is the same person who said there were no playable females in A:CM.
Same here.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Predaker on Feb 08, 2013, 07:43:57 PM
Quote from: Gren_86 on Feb 08, 2013, 07:34:22 PM
Quote from: Predaker on Feb 08, 2013, 07:21:45 PM
It's disappointing escape mode only has two maps without DLC because multiplayer is what will keep me playing A:CM.

As for Brian Burleson saying there would be a ton of maps, two feels more like the bare minimum. Although this is the same person who said there were no playable females in A:CM.
Same here.

I think Hadley's Hope sewers might end up being the more popular of the two maps for escape mode. They showed it on the IGN live feed last weekend.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WinterActual on Feb 08, 2013, 08:01:35 PM
Quote from: teras on Feb 08, 2013, 06:00:58 PM
It's a bit hard to explain if you haven't played those games.
I have played the third one.

Quote from: Gren_86 on Feb 08, 2013, 06:25:14 PM
were using for the physics a modified Havok engine which is one of the best on the market.
Yeah but sadly Havok is very dated engine by now. It was my fav physics engine long time ago but its already too old for the current standards. Also there are better looking games on the PS than the KZ series. Uncharted 3 looks way better for example. KZ is just covered with blur, the textures are pretty low res actually.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Elicas on Feb 08, 2013, 08:09:54 PM
Leeroy knocked off 71 Xenos in Hadleys Hopes first level, I'd be suprised if that many were left on the entire plane,t let alone on the first level of entering Hadley.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: OpenMaw on Feb 08, 2013, 08:22:31 PM
Quote from: Sgt.Camacho on Feb 08, 2013, 07:23:00 PM
Your stuck on the prices, Black Ops 2 Revolution DLC was the same price (it came with 4 maps, a new Zombie mode and a new weapon). As long as the Bug Hunt DLC delivers I really don't see a price difference from what other games have already done. I guess we will all just have to wait and see.

Those are terrible prices too.

There's nothing to "wait and see" when you pay a third of the game price for what is essentially 1/10 the content, you are being jipped. Expansion packs back in the day would run you about 20 bucks total, but you'd get new weapons, a full new campaign, new gameplay for multiplayer, all in one go. Things have changed, and they've changed badly. Just compare what you got in AVP 2 Primal Hunt, to this kind of bullshit they do with modern DLC.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Bjørn Half-hand on Feb 08, 2013, 09:23:13 PM
Spoiler
So Hicks is indeed alive then. Why would WY take Hicks from the crytube and leave a double in his place? Why leave Ripley behind and take Hicks? I know Burke was acting alone in Aliens and not with WY but he refers to Hicks as a grunt and a nobody if I remember right but he employers apparently see him as a valuable kidnap target, more valualble than Ripley. It just doesn't make sense. So did WY plant the egg in the Sulaco and were they responsible for starting that fire? If so did they actually kill the Hicks double so he couldn't be identified or did they not care if Ripley realise that Hicks was mysteriously replaced much like Homer bieng replaced with a German in the Simpsons. Not of this makes any sense.
[close]
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: reecebomb on Feb 08, 2013, 09:31:49 PM
Quote from: Bjørn Half-hand on Feb 08, 2013, 09:23:13 PM
Spoiler
So Hicks is indeed alive then. Why would WY take Hicks from the crytube and leave a double in his place? Why leave Ripley behind and take Hicks? I know Burke was acting alone in Aliens and not with WY but he refers to Hicks as a grunt and a nobody if I remember right but he employers apparently see him as a valuable kidnap target, more valualble than Ripley. It just doesn't make sense. So did WY plant the egg in the Sulaco and were they responsible for starting that fire? If so did they actually kill the Hicks double so he couldnt be identified or did they not care if Ripley realise that Hicks was mysteriously replaced much like Homer bieng replaced with a German in the Simpsons. Not of this makes any sense.
[close]

Nothing about this game makes sense anymore but you need to obey to the cannonz so kindly obey and don't question. I bet you
want the game to fail. I give the game 10 out of then. 
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: JokersWarPig on Feb 08, 2013, 09:40:21 PM
A lot of these reviews arent the best...Oh well.
Everyone said AVP2010 was crap and I've been enjoying the game every couple of months since its release. i still have very high hopes for this game
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: SPECIAL FORCES on Feb 08, 2013, 09:41:58 PM
Quote from: Bjørn Half-hand on Feb 08, 2013, 09:23:13 PM
Spoiler
So Hicks is indeed alive then. Why would WY take Hicks from the crytube and leave a double in his place? Why leave Ripley behind and take Hicks? I know Burke was acting alone in Aliens and not with WY but he refers to Hicks as a grunt and a nobody if I remember right but he employers apparently see him as a valuable kidnap target, more valualble than Ripley. It just doesn't make sense. So did WY plant the egg in the Sulaco and were they responsible for starting that fire? If so did they actually kill the Hicks double so he couldn't be identified or did they not care if Ripley realise that Hicks was mysteriously replaced much like Homer bieng replaced with a German in the Simpsons. Not of this makes any sense.
[close]

Spoiler
LOL The story is for an Oscar...if WY boarded the ship why not simply take as prisoners Hicks,Ripley,Newt and Bishop?
Then impregnate them all and take the cherstbuster and whatever.Why risk letting them fall on Fury?

They fell victim of their own logic.They wanted to be canon so they were ''tied'' by the start of Alien 3.
But when Alien 3 was written none had in mind that WY boarded the Sulaco ect.So it is natural the story to be bullshit.
[close]

They chose to bring back Hicks,well nice welcome but...  >:(
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Bjørn Half-hand on Feb 08, 2013, 09:46:55 PM
Quote from: SPECIAL FORCES on Feb 08, 2013, 09:41:58 PM
Quote from: Bjørn Half-hand on Feb 08, 2013, 09:23:13 PM
Spoiler
So Hicks is indeed alive then. Why would WY take Hicks from the crytube and leave a double in his place? Why leave Ripley behind and take Hicks? I know Burke was acting alone in Aliens and not with WY but he refers to Hicks as a grunt and a nobody if I remember right but he employers apparently see him as a valuable kidnap target, more valualble than Ripley. It just doesn't make sense. So did WY plant the egg in the Sulaco and were they responsible for starting that fire? If so did they actually kill the Hicks double so he couldn't be identified or did they not care if Ripley realise that Hicks was mysteriously replaced much like Homer bieng replaced with a German in the Simpsons. Not of this makes any sense.
[close]

Spoiler
LOL The story is for an Oscar...if WY boarded the ship why not simply take as prisoners Hicks,Ripley,Newt and Bishop?
Then impregnate them all and take the cherstbuster and whatever.Why risk letting them fall on Fury?

They fell victim of their own logic.They wanted to be canon so they were ''tied'' by the start of Alien 3.
But when Alien 3 was written none had in mind that WY boarded the Sulaco ect.So it is natural the story to be bullshit.
[close]

They chose to bring back Hicks,well nice welcome but...  >:(

It's just a shame that the story is so crap. Judging by these reviews the gameplay itself is so generic shooter with dodgy AI. The game has to rely on its Aliens atmosphere and story and it turns out the story is crap.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Marvelnerd1 on Feb 08, 2013, 11:22:48 PM
Well. I guess I may be the only still going to get the game to see it for myself.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Cal427eb on Feb 08, 2013, 11:28:36 PM
Quote from: reecebomb on Feb 08, 2013, 09:31:49 PM
I bet you
want the game to fail. I give the game 10 out of then.
Huh?  ???

Quote from: Marvelnerd1 on Feb 08, 2013, 11:22:48 PM
Well. I guess I may be the only still going to get the game to see it for myself.
Nope. I will be as well but I am expecting trash at this point. Just gonna rent the game unless the multiplayer is any good.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: HybridNewborn on Feb 08, 2013, 11:35:49 PM
Is Morse even mentioned?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: thecaffeinatedone on Feb 08, 2013, 11:53:50 PM
Spoiler
QuoteLOL The story is for an Oscar...if WY boarded the ship why not simply take as prisoners Hicks,Ripley,Newt and Bishop?
Then impregnate them all and take the cherstbuster and whatever.Why risk letting them fall on Fury?

They fell victim of their own logic.They wanted to be canon so they were ''tied'' by the start of Alien 3.
But when Alien 3 was written none had in mind that WY boarded the Sulaco ect.So it is natural the story to be bullshit.
[close]

Christ, that's awful. And completely non-sensical and f**ktarded. I'm curious to see what  Bradley Thompson and David Weddle's original treatment for the game was.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: szkoki on Feb 09, 2013, 12:01:37 AM
seems like i should continue to play with Aliens Infestation to have at least a little bit of joy regarding the Alien universe...
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: RedHood on Feb 09, 2013, 12:06:43 AM
I played chapter one on hard then decided to go up to the ultimate badass difficulty for chapter two. Playing on Badass with no hub adds some spice. Its ok that you can find the secret stuff with your motion tracker, but that takes away from the searching. The AI is under par, you do catch them standing around at times. And the achievements are pretty simple i unlocked 12 in just 2 chapters. But I'm having a blast with the game.

I know this has been said before but WHO THE HELL NEEDS A SUPPRESSOR IN A RUN AND GUN GAME!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: HybridNewborn on Feb 09, 2013, 12:11:29 AM
SEGA just confirmed (http://blogs.sega.com/2013/02/08/aliens-colonial-marines-dlc-and-season-pass-bundle/) like 20 minutes ago that there will be more campaign missions in the DLC packs.

So there's a chance at a better story ending.

Hopefully.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 09, 2013, 12:11:53 AM
Quote from: Sgt.Camacho on Feb 09, 2013, 12:06:43 AM
I played chapter one on hard then decided to go up to the ultimate badass difficulty for chapter two. Playing on Badass with no hub adds some spice. Its ok that you can find the secret stuff with your motion tracker, but that takes away from the searching. The AI is under par, you do catch them standing around at times. And the achievements are pretty simple i unlocked 12 in just 2 chapters. But I'm having a blast with the game.

I know this has been said before but WHO THE HELL NEEDS A SUPPRESSOR IN A RUN AND GUN GAME!

How did you get your copy and where?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ShadowPred on Feb 09, 2013, 12:12:44 AM
Quote from: HybridNewborn on Feb 09, 2013, 12:11:29 AM
SEGA just confirmed (http://blogs.sega.com/2013/02/08/aliens-colonial-marines-dlc-and-season-pass-bundle/) like 20 minutes ago that there will be more campaign missions in the DLC packs.

So there's a chance at a better story ending.

Hopefully.


Lol, f**k off Gearbox. Honestly, what more can they do for the campaign, are they going to add missing levels? Or, hopefully, they actually add missions that take place AFTER the campaign.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: HybridNewborn on Feb 09, 2013, 12:16:57 AM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 09, 2013, 12:12:44 AM
Quote from: HybridNewborn on Feb 09, 2013, 12:11:29 AM
SEGA just confirmed (http://blogs.sega.com/2013/02/08/aliens-colonial-marines-dlc-and-season-pass-bundle/) like 20 minutes ago that there will be more campaign missions in the DLC packs.

So there's a chance at a better story ending.

Hopefully.

Lol, f**k off Gearbox. Honestly, what more can they do for the campaign, are they going to add missing levels? Or, hopefully, they actually add missions that take place AFTER the campaign.

I'm hoping that Morse shows up, kills the revealed-to-be-a-synthetic-double-of Hicks, and helps you go kick some ass. Or something similar.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: szkoki on Feb 09, 2013, 12:23:30 AM
fix  the ai and the bugs gbx for f**k sake at least


Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Elicas on Feb 09, 2013, 12:26:18 AM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 09, 2013, 12:12:44 AM
Quote from: HybridNewborn on Feb 09, 2013, 12:11:29 AM
SEGA just confirmed (http://blogs.sega.com/2013/02/08/aliens-colonial-marines-dlc-and-season-pass-bundle/) like 20 minutes ago that there will be more campaign missions in the DLC packs.

So there's a chance at a better story ending.

Hopefully.


Lol, f**k off Gearbox. Honestly, what more can they do for the campaign, are they going to add missing levels? Or, hopefully, they actually add missions that take place AFTER the campaign.

It's like they intentionally want to f**k with their biggest fanbase. What's the betting it adds a mission after the deliberately ambiguous ending. It's ok folks, pay just £14.99 to access the real end of the game you paid £30 for, oh and another payment for the real skirmish MP you wanted at release too.

We did this all for you, you know. You should feel honoured! All hail Gearbox, the true authentic fans.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: szkoki on Feb 09, 2013, 12:27:19 AM
Quote from: HybridNewborn on Feb 09, 2013, 12:10:39 AM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 08, 2013, 11:55:51 PM
Quote from: HybridNewborn on Feb 08, 2013, 11:47:32 PM
The season pass description seems to indicate that there will be more campaign missions, so there might be more story that salvages this... hopefully >__>
Which is f**king bullshit.
SEGA just confirmed (http://blogs.sega.com/2013/02/08/aliens-colonial-marines-dlc-and-season-pass-bundle/) like 20 minutes ago that there will be more campaign missions in the DLC packs.

why not just add the hive-escape-fight scene as a "mission" from Aliens with the actual squad where u can be any of the soldiers and where u can save as many mates as u can and u can escort them back to the apc ...ofcourse with only a flamethrower as Apone or Dietrich, or with a smartgun with low ammo as Vasquez or with a shotgun as Hicks for example, no pulse rifle this time, u would have pistol ofcourse....the more people u can save in the shortest time and the more xenos u can kill the better rank u get xD
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Elicas on Feb 09, 2013, 12:34:22 AM
Quote from: szkoki on Feb 09, 2013, 12:27:19 AM
Quote from: HybridNewborn on Feb 09, 2013, 12:10:39 AM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 08, 2013, 11:55:51 PM
Quote from: HybridNewborn on Feb 08, 2013, 11:47:32 PM
The season pass description seems to indicate that there will be more campaign missions, so there might be more story that salvages this... hopefully >__>
Which is f**king bullshit.
SEGA just confirmed (http://blogs.sega.com/2013/02/08/aliens-colonial-marines-dlc-and-season-pass-bundle/) like 20 minutes ago that there will be more campaign missions in the DLC packs.

why not just add the hive-escape-fight scene as a "mission" from Aliens with the actual squad where u can be any of the soldiers and where u can save as many mates as u can and u can escort them back to the apc ...ofcourse with only a flamethrower as Apone or Dietrich, or with a smartgun with low ammo as Vasquez or with a shotgun as Hicks for example, no pulse rifle this time, u would have pistol ofcourse....the more people u can save in the shortest time and the more xenos u can kill the better rank u get xD

Now that would be a good DLC. A mode where you all pick a character and try and escape the Hive, it's dark, moody, smokey, Aliens are buffed for one hit kills and no Alien Wrestling Championship. Get back to the APC as fast as possible, with as many squad mates alive as possible.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Njm1983 on Feb 09, 2013, 12:40:08 AM
Im gonna go out on a limb and say this whole thing stinks of meddling by SEGA.

AVP2010 was a rushed buggy imbalanced game
A:CM appears to be a rushed buggy game

AVP2010 only offered a handful of multiplayer modes
A:CM only offers a small number of multiplayer modes

AVP2010 had a handful of regular multiplayer maps and a 2 each for 2 other specialized game modes
A:CM  has a handful of regular multiplayer maps and a 2 each for 2 other specialized game modes

AVP2010 Had expensive DLC in the form of 4 maps
A:CM appears to be following a similar pattern with adding a game mode only to the game for its first DLC

My point is, you cant tell me to separate game developers like Gearbox and Rebellion are doing the exact same thing, when theres a mutual production company involved with both. Coincidence? I think not..
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: OpenMaw on Feb 09, 2013, 12:53:02 AM
Quote from: Njm1983 on Feb 09, 2013, 12:40:08 AM
AVP2010 was a rushed buggy imbalanced game
A:CM appears to be a rushed buggy game

Again, there's a massive flaw in the logic here. A:CM was delayed repeatedly. It's not a rushed game. It had a very lengthy and protracted development cycle.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: szkoki on Feb 09, 2013, 12:54:31 AM
ummm AVP2010 was a finished, decent game besides a few bugs that i just SAW in walktroughs it doesnt had problems...my only problem was that it was short and it was focused more on the preds wich just killed the terror for me
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Samus007 on Feb 09, 2013, 01:01:19 AM
Quote from: szkoki on Feb 09, 2013, 12:54:31 AM
ummm AVP2010 was a finished, decent game besides a few bugs that i just SAW in walktroughs it doesnt had problems...my only problem was that it was short and it was focused more on the preds wich just killed the terror for me

And it had a crap story and Tequilla was beyond annoying and could not act worth a damn.


Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 09, 2013, 12:53:02 AM
Quote from: Njm1983 on Feb 09, 2013, 12:40:08 AM
AVP2010 was a rushed buggy imbalanced game
A:CM appears to be a rushed buggy game

Again, there's a massive flaw in the logic here. A:CM was delayed repeatedly. It's not a rushed game. It had a very lengthy and protracted development cycle.

Yeah I think this game was in development longer than Halo 3 and 4 combined. (Figure of speech, I dont really mean that)
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: szkoki on Feb 09, 2013, 01:03:06 AM
yeah beyond that :D and beyond that every marine had the same skin almost and u can get to see it every time
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Njm1983 on Feb 09, 2013, 01:07:52 AM
Actually I think the flaw in your logic is that A:CM was actually "in" production the entire time. Which I highly doubt. Its PR, of course they will pour honeyed potion in your ears, and get you chanting "GEARBOX, GEARBOX". There is no fricken way this game had been worked on for this long and turns out this bad, unless it a DNF scenario. Start, Stop, Start, Stop etc Then they get a green light and rush it into the limelight and release it when it really needed to be overhauled.

Ive played game mods that have been in production since 2003 and with each patch or new version they go back through and update the older content to keep the game looking current.

AVP 2010 was buggy and and imbalanced as shit on release, it got patched and became better. PC got the best patching. I did enjoy it for about 6 months, but I dont bother now because its a broken game.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Le Celticant on Feb 09, 2013, 01:11:50 AM
AVP was bad, like really bad but at least they got the "minimum" required for a game to work.
Aliens animations were very nice, graphics were good, controls were almost good only concerns were some part of the mechanic that were clearly broken and several things as the inability to change species in game.

A:CM doesn't seems to have that minimum.
Graphic sucks, we agree on that.
Animation sucks, we agree on that.
Mechanic is totally random and full of non sense like placing a ***** sentry gun in the middle of nowhere just for the sake of having a sentry gun in the game.
AI sucks, it could have work very very well if all Aliens were behaving like lurker and wouldn't stand 90% of the time on the ground.
Coding sucks, full of bug/lag/glitch that could have easily been fixed if given the proper amount of time to run correct test.
Story is unwise, why trying to change something that is already set up? Gearbox did not succeed where ALIEN³ or AVP failed, it mimic the exact same non linear mistakes that have been bothering the fans since ages. It is a total failure and far from giving an alien experience since their vision matches more the Strause soap.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Salt The Fries on Feb 09, 2013, 01:19:34 AM
Can someone locate and paste here that Mikey Neumann photo with "badass" subtitle written on it?? :D


We should make a meme out of it!!!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ShadowPred on Feb 09, 2013, 01:20:56 AM
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Feb 09, 2013, 01:19:34 AM
Can someone locate and paste here that Mikey Neumann photo with "badass" subtitle written on it?? :D


We should make a meme out of it!!!


Blame the video editor.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Predaker on Feb 09, 2013, 01:23:46 AM
Gearbox poured their heart into this game. Like it, love it, hate it... please show some respect.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Salt The Fries on Feb 09, 2013, 01:25:05 AM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F666kb.com%2Fi%2Fc65lyaa4jjuan2ysw.png&hash=fdb7e43b20691cb13afb645dab47fc9c1fb4073a)
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: OpenMaw on Feb 09, 2013, 01:26:22 AM
Quote from: Predaker on Feb 09, 2013, 01:23:46 AM
Gearbox poured their heart into this game. Like it, love it, hate it... please show some respect.

It's earned, not given.

Haggle me for extra DLC money and make wild declarations of authenticity. No respect earned.  ;)
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: szkoki on Feb 09, 2013, 01:28:14 AM
Quote from: Predaker on Feb 09, 2013, 01:23:46 AM
Gearbox poured their heart into this game. Like it, love it, hate it... please show some respect.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

u did buy some rotten food yesterday but i should show some respect to the seller really?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ShadowPred on Feb 09, 2013, 01:28:29 AM
Quote from: Predaker on Feb 09, 2013, 01:23:46 AM
Gearbox poured their heart into this game. Like it, love it, hate it... please show some respect.



Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 09, 2013, 01:26:22 AM
Quote from: Predaker on Feb 09, 2013, 01:23:46 AM
Gearbox poured their heart into this game. Like it, love it, hate it... please show some respect.

It's earned, not given.




Completely agree on this.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ShadowPred on Feb 09, 2013, 01:31:10 AM
Quote from: Predaker on Feb 09, 2013, 01:29:19 AM
Have fun bashing a game you haven't even played yet.

Peace.


If that's what it seems like to you, then ok dude, see ya. I'm not really trying to bash a game, I'm only bashing what I have seen with my own two eyes. If I enjoy playing the game when I get my hands on it, then that's fine, I'll be glad. Despite this, the game has shown that it's not doing as good as it should have been. I don't know why you feel like there's some need to defend anyone or anything about this game.


EDIT


Seems Predaker deleted his post.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Terx2 on Feb 09, 2013, 01:32:02 AM
For those of you that have played the game or watched up to a certain part may I ask.....
Spoiler
Why do the marines go to the derlict and how long is the level with the derlict and how much of it can you explore?
[close]

Quote from: Predaker on Feb 09, 2013, 01:23:46 AM
Gearbox poured their heart into this game. Like it, love it, hate it... please show some respect.

I couldn't agree more. If you think you can do better than go ahead and make you own game. I won't stop you. Besides I'm sure they'll patch it.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: szkoki on Feb 09, 2013, 01:33:53 AM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 09, 2013, 01:31:10 AM
Quote from: Predaker on Feb 09, 2013, 01:29:19 AM
Have fun bashing a game you haven't even played yet.

Peace.


If that's what it seems like to you, then ok dude, see ya. I'm not really trying to bash a game, I'm only bashing what I have seen with my own two eyes. If I enjoy playing the game when I get my hands on it, then that's fine, I'll be glad. Despite this, the game has shown that it's not doing as good as it should have been. I don't know why you feel like there's some need to defend anyone or anything about this game.


EDIT


Seems Predaker deleted his post.

Seems he just started playin' with the game  ::) :P
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: OpenMaw on Feb 09, 2013, 01:41:58 AM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 09, 2013, 01:28:29 AM
Completely agree on this.

You know... It's not even that I want to bash on Gearbox or Aliens : CM. I expect better from the company that gave us Half-Life Blue Shift and Opposing Force. I expect more from Randy, who is, to a degree, part of the old guard of game developers. I expect more

When someone asks "What? Were you actually expecting GOTY material?" As if that's too high a standard... I have to ask, Why? It wasn't for Monolith a decade ago. Or Rebellion nearly 13 years ago.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aliensonline.hu%2Fspgm%2Fgal%2FPC_Jatekok%2FPC_AVP2%2Favp2-gold2.jpg&hash=16f752c572b0f2639f0eb529e93d930f2dd029f9)

Why should it be too high for Gearbox? This is the Alien franchise. It deserves a genuinely triple A experience. Not something that is a mere novelty or a fashionable skin over done-to-death shooter experiences that can be had in a dozen different games.


And, Predaker, I saw your post before it disappeared. Look, we've seen most of the game in walk through form now. We've seen it from several people. I've been reading and watching everything on the game. There isn't much left that I can get from the hands on experience that my eyes, and ears aren't already able to figure out.

In the words of Corporal Dwayne Hicks himself "We've got problems."


Quote from: Terx2 on Feb 09, 2013, 01:32:02 AM
I couldn't agree more. If you think you can do better than go ahead and make you own game. I won't stop you. Besides I'm sure they'll patch it.

Not much experience with this brand in terms of the legal ferocity eh?(aside from this remark being a total straw man. I don't have to be a musician to judge music, why should I have to be a game developer to judge a game?) Fox has a habit of shutting people down who try. I'm shocked I haven't received a C&D for "Into the Vents" yet.

Alien Quake, foxed, computers stolen out of the creators home, a few months later AVP 99 was announced.

Several alien mods for Quake 2, GoldSRC (An online game called USCM : Infestation, dealing with similar gameplay to Infestation/Evac marines against aliens.), Quake 3, and Source were all foxed.

Believe me, there are many people who would LOVE to do it ourselves.

Also, they don't earn my respect until i'm a satisfied customer. They aren't our friend. They are a company offering a product. We're the people buying said product.

Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ShadowPred on Feb 09, 2013, 01:42:08 AM
Quote from: Terx2 on Feb 09, 2013, 01:32:02 AM

I couldn't agree more. If you think you can do better than go ahead and make you own game.



This is such a lame argument that a lot of people keep dishing out. As if anyone on here can't criticize something because they can't do it themselves, such crap. By this logic about "do it yourself then" it should apply to everything. That means that people who can't draw, can't criticize people that can, people that don't like a movie can't criticize it if they can't make one, etc.

Complete BS.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Omega1 on Feb 09, 2013, 01:43:19 AM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 09, 2013, 01:42:08 AM
Quote from: Terx2 on Feb 09, 2013, 01:32:02 AM

I couldn't agree more. If you think you can do better than go ahead and make you own game.



This is such a lame argument that a lot of people keep dishing out. As if anyone on here can't criticize something because they can't do it themselves, such crap. By this logic about "do it yourself then" it should apply to everything. That means that people who can't draw, can't criticize people that can, people that don't like a movie can't criticize it if they can't make one, etc.

Complete BS.

I just had to quote this one for truth!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Salt The Fries on Feb 09, 2013, 01:45:13 AM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 09, 2013, 01:42:08 AM
Quote from: Terx2 on Feb 09, 2013, 01:32:02 AM

I couldn't agree more. If you think you can do better than go ahead and make you own game.



This is such a lame argument that a lot of people keep dishing out. As if anyone on here can't criticize something because they can't do it themselves, such crap. By this logic about "do it yourself then" it should apply to everything. That means that people who can't draw, can't criticize people that can, people that don't like a movie can't criticize it if they can't make one, etc.

Complete BS.
I also hate this "argument", you don't have to be a programmer to criticise poor scripting, coding, etc., because such flaws are otherwise tangible. It's not a duel ffs!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Nukiemorph on Feb 09, 2013, 02:02:21 AM
I can't help but assume most of these negative reviews are from game snobs who are way pickier than I am.
I personally loved shit out of the latest AVP game, especially the marine levels.  My only complaint about AVP was that it was a bit short.  So I still anticipate enjoying this game for myself.
I'm always up for playing as a colonial marine in a "shake-n-bake colony" killing rigid-headed aliens, and with this game, I'll finally get to do it without predator taint all over it.  This is all I'm personally asking for.  I don't see what more you guys are expecting.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: OpenMaw on Feb 09, 2013, 02:06:33 AM
Decent AI, a challenge, a non-retarded story, compelling characters, non entirely linear gameplay...


You're right, it's too much to expect.

Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: RedHood on Feb 09, 2013, 02:11:51 AM
I got the game and I'm liking it. You gotta play on hard or Badass, I like Badass it keeps it interesting.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Terx2 on Feb 09, 2013, 02:11:57 AM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 09, 2013, 01:42:08 AM
Quote from: Terx2 on Feb 09, 2013, 01:32:02 AM

I couldn't agree more. If you think you can do better than go ahead and make you own game.



This is such a lame argument that a lot of people keep dishing out. As if anyone on here can't criticize something because they can't do it themselves, such crap. By this logic about "do it yourself then" it should apply to everything. That means that people who can't draw, can't criticize people that can, people that don't like a movie can't criticize it if they can't make one, etc.

Complete BS.

I'm just saying you deal with what your given and if you don't like than change it yourself. You don't have to be an artist to criticize artwork I agree with that.

@OpenMaw I understand theres legal trouble people can get into I just meant if you have those skills and you could do it yourself. Would you? This is a franchise thats dear to thousands of people. If you do something different in your own vision these potential backlash while if you keep doing the same thing it will get boring. I'm leaving this thread. I need time to cool off all this negativity towards myself and a game I am yet to play.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Kalawaki on Feb 09, 2013, 02:14:10 AM
Quote from: Predaker on Feb 09, 2013, 01:23:46 AM
Gearbox poured their heart into this game. Like it, love it, hate it... please show some respect.
Most certainly this.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ShadowPred on Feb 09, 2013, 02:15:12 AM
Quote from: necrotard on Feb 09, 2013, 02:02:21 AM
I can't help but assume most of these negative reviews are from game snobs who are way pickier than I am.
I don't see what more you guys are expecting.



I can't speak for anyone else, and I can only talk about what I have seen, but I was expecting to see a game that had A.I. that would have been intelligent. I would have wanted to see their "authenticity" talks to actually hold some weight when they so far have been lying about it completely, there's no excuse there when they continue to say that they have all the details right, and everything is as it should be when it clearly isn't. That's my biggest gripe with them, that they said they were going to do something and then not do it. Other things I was expecting for the Acid of the Aliens to actually harm the player, seeing the game...it really doesn't do anything but prevent the player from auto-regenerating their health bar for a short time. The facial animations of the characters do not exist, they are pretty much robotic in nature. There's just so much more that I was expecting that this game shows they didn't do.



Quote from: Terx2 on Feb 09, 2013, 02:11:57 AM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 09, 2013, 01:42:08 AM
Quote from: Terx2 on Feb 09, 2013, 01:32:02 AM

I couldn't agree more. If you think you can do better than go ahead and make you own game.



This is such a lame argument that a lot of people keep dishing out. As if anyone on here can't criticize something because they can't do it themselves, such crap. By this logic about "do it yourself then" it should apply to everything. That means that people who can't draw, can't criticize people that can, people that don't like a movie can't criticize it if they can't make one, etc.

Complete BS.

I'm just saying you deal with what your given and if you don't like than change it yourself.




I don't see how this is any different than what you said earlier though.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: chrisr232007 on Feb 09, 2013, 02:17:12 AM
Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 09, 2013, 02:14:10 AM
Quote from: Predaker on Feb 09, 2013, 01:23:46 AM
Gearbox poured their heart into this game. Like it, love it, hate it... please show some respect.
Most certainly this.

Screw that they made a shit game and they need to hear it.  If we spend are money on it then we have the right to rip it apart if it's shit which it is.  There the ones who promised a great ands authentic game which they didn't deliver.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Le Celticant on Feb 09, 2013, 02:17:53 AM
Quote from: Terx2 on Feb 09, 2013, 02:11:57 AM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 09, 2013, 01:42:08 AM
Quote from: Terx2 on Feb 09, 2013, 01:32:02 AM

I couldn't agree more. If you think you can do better than go ahead and make you own game.



This is such a lame argument that a lot of people keep dishing out. As if anyone on here can't criticize something because they can't do it themselves, such crap. By this logic about "do it yourself then" it should apply to everything. That means that people who can't draw, can't criticize people that can, people that don't like a movie can't criticize it if they can't make one, etc.

Complete BS.

I'm just saying you deal with what your given and if you don't like than change it yourself. You don't have to be an artist to criticize artwork I agree with that.

How do you expect us to change it by ourself if we're able without a SDK?
Years we've been asking for it on both AVP and A:CM.
Still nothing on the surface and I doubt we'll ever get one for at least one of this games.

Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 09, 2013, 02:14:10 AM
Quote from: Predaker on Feb 09, 2013, 01:23:46 AM
Gearbox poured their heart into this game. Like it, love it, hate it... please show some respect.
Most certainly this.

Strause brother poured their heart by making AVP-Requiem.
So did Paul Anderson when he did AVP.
So does the FOX CEO with the amount of money he makes every second.

They're trying to sell you a product.
Will you create something and then tell to people to not buy it because you were completely uninterested into its conception during the creation process?
It's called Communication and each studio as a department that gives a brief to people so they can follow it.
SEGA holds everything, if they tell Gearbox to do/say something like "promise their a sequel to ALIENS", they'll execute and have no choice.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Kalawaki on Feb 09, 2013, 02:17:59 AM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 09, 2013, 01:41:58 AM
Not much experience with this brand in terms of the legal ferocity eh?(aside from this remark being a total straw man. I don't have to be a musician to judge music, why should I have to be a game developer to judge a game?) Fox has a habit of shutting people down who try. I'm shocked I haven't received a C&D for "Into the Vents" yet.

Alien Quake, foxed, computers stolen out of the creators home, a few months later AVP 99 was announced.

Several alien mods for Quake 2, GoldSRC (An online game called USCM : Infestation, dealing with similar gameplay to Infestation/Evac marines against aliens.), Quake 3, and Source were all foxed.

Believe me, there are many people who would LOVE to do it ourselves.

Also, they don't earn my respect until i'm a satisfied customer. They aren't our friend. They are a company offering a product. We're the people buying said product.
You forgot ALIENS ONLINE.

The only reason that Fox hasn't nailed the guy that patched AvP2's servers after they were shut down is because the game's license to AvP2 belongs to about 7 different companies.



Quote from: Le Celticant on Feb 09, 2013, 02:17:53 AM
Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 09, 2013, 02:14:10 AM
Quote from: Predaker on Feb 09, 2013, 01:23:46 AM
Gearbox poured their heart into this game. Like it, love it, hate it... please show some respect.
Most certainly this.

Strause brother poured their heart by making AVP-Requiem.
So did Paul Anderson when he did AVP.
And it's their fault for pouring their heart and souls into nothing more then a crossover.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Le Celticant on Feb 09, 2013, 02:30:35 AM
Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 09, 2013, 02:17:59 AM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 09, 2013, 01:41:58 AM
Not much experience with this brand in terms of the legal ferocity eh?(aside from this remark being a total straw man. I don't have to be a musician to judge music, why should I have to be a game developer to judge a game?) Fox has a habit of shutting people down who try. I'm shocked I haven't received a C&D for "Into the Vents" yet.

Alien Quake, foxed, computers stolen out of the creators home, a few months later AVP 99 was announced.

Several alien mods for Quake 2, GoldSRC (An online game called USCM : Infestation, dealing with similar gameplay to Infestation/Evac marines against aliens.), Quake 3, and Source were all foxed.

Believe me, there are many people who would LOVE to do it ourselves.

Also, they don't earn my respect until i'm a satisfied customer. They aren't our friend. They are a company offering a product. We're the people buying said product.
You forgot ALIENS ONLINE.

The only reason that Fox hasn't nailed the guy that patched AvP2's servers after they were shut down is because the game's license to AvP2 belongs to about 7 different companies.



Quote from: Le Celticant on Feb 09, 2013, 02:17:53 AM
Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 09, 2013, 02:14:10 AM
Quote from: Predaker on Feb 09, 2013, 01:23:46 AM
Gearbox poured their heart into this game. Like it, love it, hate it... please show some respect.
Most certainly this.

Strause brother poured their heart by making AVP-Requiem.
So did Paul Anderson when he did AVP.
And it's their fault for pouring their heart and souls into nothing more then a crossover.

1) They can't nail the MS because it would be useless, anyone else could replace it, countries have different laws concerning copyrighted material and the AVP2 source code was released in Public for a few hours on some old Website making the usage of it legal (even if it was then removed by FOX request). According to the EULA, anyone could create its own MS and would be perfectly legal to do so.

2) And it's their fault for pouring their heart and souls into nothing more than a casual FPS that mimic all the story mistake fans have been complaining as discontinuity since ALIEN³ and a pathetic gameplay disfavored to an atmosphere that is supposed to be reproduced to the identical (while it's not according to some hardcore fans on this forum).
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: OpenMaw on Feb 09, 2013, 02:36:13 AM
Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 09, 2013, 02:17:59 AM
You forgot ALIENS ONLINE.

The only reason that Fox hasn't nailed the guy that patched AvP2's servers after they were shut down is because the game's license to AvP2 belongs to about 7 different companies.

ALIENS : Online was an officially licensed Fox game. Unless you're talking about the mod/conversion for AvP2, that's a different thing entirely.

The one that I really forgot was Aliens A Comic Book Adventure, which to this day still confuses me as to the legal nature of that beast. Somebody didnt have the rights to something and Fox said "Hell no" and the developers said "Oh **** yes." and then shenanigans... bizzaro land.


Point is, Fox has generally shut down any attempts by fans to create TCS or mods, or even full on games of a high quality that weren't licensed.

The original Aliens Doom TC was the biggest exception. Though it did wake Fox up to the potential of the franchise as a whole. (AVP Jaguar came out the next year, Alien Trilogy a couple years later, AVP 99 followed just five years later.)

Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Terx2 on Feb 09, 2013, 02:37:22 AM
No Software Development Kit? Great! Sorry I take back what I said. I'd thought they'd at least have it for PC. Make acid for blood damge and map out you own terrain and enemy spawn points. Hope they at the very least patch it so we have acid for blood damage.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Dachande on Feb 09, 2013, 02:48:07 AM
Seeing i managed to get this early via work, i figured i'd just give everybody my perspective on the game, considering a lot of negativity has come out so far. This is just for Single Player though, as i can't play MP, although i have looked about in the loadouts and challenges etc. This is only from the first mission so far.

Graphics:

Well, right off the bat the graphics aren't terrible, certainly not last gen quality as people have been saying. There are quite a few dodgy looking textures here and there, some of which can be very prominent when your running around searching for collectibles as i tend to, but overall they aren't dreadful, the majority in gameplay look pretty good. I;ve certainly seen a lot worse in current gen games.

A.I.

Again a lot of people saying the Aliens A.I. is terrible, IMO it seems ok to me, nothing groundbreaking but i wouldn't call it bad. Very much standard FPS AI, with some smart bits thrown in here and there, i've noticed the Xeno's will tend to try and swarm when in groups, but when theres only one or two left, they will go hide behind cover, or underneath platforms, which i thought was nice. One or two times i've noticed them just standing around, but its been very rare. Teammate AI, again standard FPS fare, they run around and shoot the Aliens. Again it just seems like standard AI to me, dunno how much it changes between difficulty levels though.

Gameplay

First of all, i just want to say as well, that i am really enjoying this. The Shooting feels very solid, with the Pulse Rifle, Shotgun and Pistol, all feeling completely different like they should. The Aliens seem able to take a fair bit of a beating, with a few even taking around 2-3 shotgun blasts from close before dying, with melee attacks being next to useless except for making some space between you and the Aliens. The game also does set up tension quite well, as noted with the first lurker fight, but especially just walking through dimly lit corridors, your always staying alert, watching for aliens, something which i don't think comes across when just watching a youtube vid, as hearing somebody talk over something does ruin any sense of immersion for me.


I think i've covered a lot of the issues i've read so far, so any questions fire away.

For all the people who have seen some of these fan reviews, first off i'd just say don't write the game off yet, i'd seen a lot of the comments before playing and i disagree with most of them, so definitely try to play it before casting judgement.

I'd not gonna go and say this is TEH BESTEST GAME EVAR, because it's not, it does have its flaws, with the occasionally poor textures, and moments of bad AI. 

So far, i'd give it a solid 7/10. I think a lot of people had very high expectations for this, which GBX didn't help with comments they made over the authenticity of all the events and canon and blah blah. For me at least, it's an enjoyable FPS in a universe i know and love.

Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Kalawaki on Feb 09, 2013, 02:48:28 AM
Quote from: Le Celticant on Feb 09, 2013, 02:30:35 AM
2) And it's their fault for pouring their heart and souls into nothing more than a casual FPS that mimics all the story mistakes fans have been complaining as discontinuity since ALIEN³ and a pathetic gameplay disfavored to an atmosphere that is supposed to be reproduced to the identical (while it's not according to some hardcore fans on this forum).
You really enjoy run-on sentances, don't you? I applied a few grammatical corrections where they need apply for you. I'll save punctuation for you, though.

Regardless, those are ideas and inspirations implimented into the genre. They were making a game that was to be a spiritual successor to the movie ALIENS. Of course they would make it play out like an action shooter, that's what the movie was you dolt.

Meanwhile trying to make a good film out of a crossover never ends well.

Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 09, 2013, 02:36:13 AM
Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 09, 2013, 02:17:59 AM
You forgot ALIENS ONLINE.

The only reason that Fox hasn't nailed the guy that patched AvP2's servers after they were shut down is because the game's license to AvP2 belongs to about 7 different companies.

ALIENS : Online was an officially licensed Fox game. Unless you're talking about the mod/conversion for AvP2, that's a different thing entirely.
Nay, i'm talking about the mod for the game that the fans created after it was shut down to try and keep the online servers running. Fox subsequently smashed their copyright hammer down at the several attempts made by the fan community until they ground it into dust.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Xenomorphine on Feb 09, 2013, 02:54:26 AM
Topics merged.

And thanks for the hands-on impressions, Dachande. :)
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Kalawaki on Feb 09, 2013, 03:06:50 AM
Dachande, your review doesn't seem littered with the constant "This didn't live up to 7 years of hype and expectation so I hate it" that nearly every other fan review i've seen on here has been littered with.

Nay, yours seems to be rather simple and to the point. I find your review the most legitimate out of all i've read thus far.

Additionally, I was wondering why that topic disappeared, Xenomorphine.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Le Celticant on Feb 09, 2013, 03:17:59 AM
Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 09, 2013, 02:48:28 AM
Quote from: Le Celticant on Feb 09, 2013, 02:30:35 AM
2) And it's their fault for pouring their heart and souls into nothing more than a casual FPS that mimics all the story mistakes fans have been complaining as discontinuity since ALIEN³ and a pathetic gameplay disfavored to an atmosphere that is supposed to be reproduced to the identical (while it's not according to some hardcore fans on this forum).
You really enjoy run-on sentances, don't you? I applied a few grammatical corrections where they need apply for you. I'll save punctuation for you, though.

Regardless, those are ideas and inspirations implimented into the genre. They were making a game that was to be a spiritual successor to the movie ALIENS. Of course they would make it play out like an action shooter, that's what the movie was you dolt.

Meanwhile trying to make a good film out of a crossover never ends well.

Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 09, 2013, 02:36:13 AM
Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 09, 2013, 02:17:59 AM
You forgot ALIENS ONLINE.

The only reason that Fox hasn't nailed the guy that patched AvP2's servers after they were shut down is because the game's license to AvP2 belongs to about 7 different companies.

ALIENS : Online was an officially licensed Fox game. Unless you're talking about the mod/conversion for AvP2, that's a different thing entirely.
Nay, i'm talking about the mod for the game that the fans created after it was shut down to try and keep the online servers running. Fox subsequently smashed their copyright hammer down at the several attempts made by the fan community until they ground it into dust.

What makes you think that this "hate" as you like to name it comes from a so long wait?
I knew since the announcement of the game that something was quite wrong with it.
They imitated the Strause Brother in interviews:
"Our game gonna be the best, blabla, true and authentic, very much has ALIENS atmosphere and is true sequel blablablabla"
I'm not surprised at all, they do what they do the best: lie to sell.
Thanks for the corrections and yes I do enjoy them.
I hope it wasn't a question you were asking but an affirmation.
Feel free to apply corrections in the future.

BTW, I can't remember that 2/3 of the movie were about gunfire.
Maybe we didn't watch the same movie, maybe we did and forgot.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: HicksLives! on Feb 09, 2013, 03:21:05 AM
I had a feeling this game would suck since the first time I saw Randy Pritchford talk about it. Watching him spaz out about the game made me cringe.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Giger_Incubator on Feb 09, 2013, 03:21:35 AM
Can people shut the f**k up with the fighting in this topic? I'm sick of seeing a new comment that isn't a fan review.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Predaker on Feb 09, 2013, 04:12:22 AM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 09, 2013, 01:26:22 AM
Quote from: Predaker on Feb 09, 2013, 01:23:46 AM
Gearbox poured their heart into this game. Like it, love it, hate it... please show some respect.

It's earned, not given.

Haggle me for extra DLC money and make wild declarations of authenticity. No respect earned.  ;)

So if I don't like that mod you made with the flamethrower in the air ducts, it's perfectly acceptable to post pictures of your face and make fun of you?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Cal427eb on Feb 09, 2013, 04:24:03 AM
Quote from: Predaker on Feb 09, 2013, 04:12:22 AM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 09, 2013, 01:26:22 AM
Quote from: Predaker on Feb 09, 2013, 01:23:46 AM
Gearbox poured their heart into this game. Like it, love it, hate it... please show some respect.

It's earned, not given.

Haggle me for extra DLC money and make wild declarations of authenticity. No respect earned.  ;)

So if I don't like that mod you made with the flamethrower in the air ducts, it's perfectly acceptable to post pictures of your face and make fun of you?
Mods are free. Games are not.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Giger_Incubator on Feb 09, 2013, 04:59:50 AM
I guess not.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: LogansFolly on Feb 09, 2013, 07:23:11 AM
Quote from: Le Celticant on Feb 09, 2013, 01:11:50 AM
AVP was bad, like really bad but at least they got the "minimum" required for a game to work.
Aliens animations were very nice, graphics were good, controls were almost good only concerns were some part of the mechanic that were clearly broken and several things as the inability to change species in game.

A:CM doesn't seems to have that minimum.
Graphic sucks, we agree on that.
Animation sucks, we agree on that.
Mechanic is totally random and full of non sense like placing a ***** sentry gun in the middle of nowhere just for the sake of having a sentry gun in the game.
AI sucks, it could have work very very well if all Aliens were behaving like lurker and wouldn't stand 90% of the time on the ground.
Coding sucks, full of bug/lag/glitch that could have easily been fixed if given the proper amount of time to run correct test.
Story is unwise, why trying to change something that is already set up? Gearbox did not succeed where ALIEN³ or AVP failed, it mimic the exact same non linear mistakes that have been bothering the fans since ages. It is a total failure and far from giving an alien experience since their vision matches more the Strause soap.

Perhaps a patch could fix some of these issues? Prehaps a patch is due to go live from day one! (12/2)? I just wanna add that I'm more stocked for the multiplayer and couldn't give two fooks about single player? Has anyone played this co-op or would that not make any difference?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WeaN on Feb 09, 2013, 07:24:10 AM
Quote from: Dachande on Feb 09, 2013, 02:48:07 AMThe Aliens seem able to take a fair bit of a beating, with a few even taking around 2-3 shotgun blasts from close before dying
Playing on Hardened, I never had to shoot them more than twice with the shotgun to kill them, and that was mid range. Which difficulty were you playing ?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Highland on Feb 09, 2013, 08:36:04 AM
Finding it hard to find a proper review on this game. Is it not out yet in some regions??

I went into EB today and they have it on sale so I assume it's out??
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: pixelbaron on Feb 09, 2013, 08:42:21 AM
Stores are breaking the street date which is why you see it on shelves. It's not out till the 12th.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Highland on Feb 09, 2013, 08:47:27 AM
Quote from: pixelbaron on Feb 09, 2013, 08:42:21 AM
Stores are breaking the street date which is why you see it on shelves. It's not out till the 12th.

ahh ok, The Australian shops don't usually do that.

I was going to pick it up but these games have a track record of being rubbish so I thought I'd hunt down a review first.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Kalawaki on Feb 09, 2013, 10:39:29 AM
I'm finding the vast majority of these reviews to have no hinderence towards me. Graphics? They look fine to me, personally. I'm not a graphics whore. AI? Doesn't matter to me in the slightest. Linear campaign levels? Won't be an issue.

Why?

Because i'm getting the game mostly for the multiplayer, which while limited looks fun as hell. I've yet to see a review cover multiplayer at all, and only complain about the campaign. I've enjoyed playing from the xenomorph's POV since AvP 2000, and AvP2 after that. That is the main reason I am getting the game.

The second reason is that I have been a ALIEN fan for nearly twenty years and, since Fox green-lit this as canonical, i'm interested to see what they do with the storyline. And while I don't expect the story to be superb, I don't see any of the problems/issues presented by any review i've read in here to hinder the overall story.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 09, 2013, 11:16:47 AM
IMO

1) Graphics are not everything.

2) AI sucks in most games. I think some of the AI in even Halo 4 sucks.

The fact ACM is lacking in graphics and AI does not bother me...at all.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Dachande on Feb 09, 2013, 11:38:34 AM
Quote from: WeaN on Feb 09, 2013, 07:24:10 AM
Quote from: Dachande on Feb 09, 2013, 02:48:07 AMThe Aliens seem able to take a fair bit of a beating, with a few even taking around 2-3 shotgun blasts from close before dying
Playing on Hardened, I never had to shoot them more than twice with the shotgun to kill them, and that was mid range. Which difficulty were you playing ?
Just on soldier, granted they were mostly body shots. Who knows, maybe I just have shit aim! :P
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Capsule on Feb 09, 2013, 12:17:30 PM
Having watched alot of those videos now and going through the feedback and especially the critique and letdowns. A:CM looks like an average shooter through and through and it is, for me, sad that the wait was so long for everyone here.
So, I want to lay down my opinion what went wrong for those who expected something more:

Alien fans, especially the fans of Aliens, are looking more into the survival terror experience, not to a military COD -style on rails shootout. I personally think that the whole feeling of surviving is somehow lessened when there is an actual plot, a laid down path for you to follow through the cabinet of horrors. This works in a movie, but doesn't work in a game. Perhaps Aliens does not translate into a game in a cinematic way, as it is more about spontaneous intelligence to come up with quick solutions to keep yourself alive in an overwhelming stress situation where death is most certain if you stay put. Try staying put in A:CM, I promise you absolutely nothing happens as you have to trigger the events by moving forward blabla. You know the drill assholes and elbows! What an aliens game should be, might be something more of a simulation. Lets just say that you have two hours to get the hell out of some installation, a'la hadleys hope/the atmosphere processor and the game has an endless generation of aliens from a certain hive throughout the whole time. They wont wait, they will actively search for you, and they absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead. There are the possibilities for emergent gameplay scenarios, how to barricade, what to scavenge, when to hide, when to run and why not ultimately, when to kill yourself to save your mates. So I would put my time and money into creating the ultimate sandbox experience. There could be civilians, who could act as the actual pawns and there would be a race against time to reach them before the xenos, as the casualties transfer directly to new aliens and there will not be enough ammo to kill them all.

Perhaps it is something like this, a role playing, bonding experience, surviving a hell together, or at least wishing to. Why did gearbox create almost a carbon copy of AVP 2010?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: teras on Feb 09, 2013, 01:49:28 PM
Guys, guys, guys and girls.
The game is good. Sure, it should have been much better but it's good.
Hadley's hope is better than the Sulaco, much better and things are starting to pick up.
Ripley's pulse rifle rocks (limited edition DLC).

To someone who asked before, I put the limited edition code last night and saw the movie characters in the MP customization menu.
They are there to play with.

Don't lose hope. The game is better than AVP 2010.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Salt The Fries on Feb 09, 2013, 01:52:46 PM
So everyone is comfortable with relegating it to Warhammer 40k: Space Marine class of game out of sudden while it has been hyped as an AAA title since 2008?

How would you compare this game in terms of quality to W40k: Space Marine?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WinterActual on Feb 09, 2013, 01:59:56 PM
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Feb 09, 2013, 01:52:46 PM
So everyone is comfortable with relegating it to Warhammer 40k: Space Marine class of game
You know that I am not  :laugh:
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Salt The Fries on Feb 09, 2013, 02:00:46 PM
How does it fare compared to Alien: Trilogy and Resurrection btw?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: reecebomb on Feb 09, 2013, 02:14:30 PM
Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 09, 2013, 10:39:29 AM
I'm finding the vast majority of these reviews to have no hinderence towards me. Graphics? They look fine to me, personally. I'm not a graphics whore. AI? Doesn't matter to me in the slightest. Linear campaign levels? Won't be an issue.

Why?

Because i'm getting the game mostly for the multiplayer, which while limited looks fun as hell. I've yet to see a review cover multiplayer at all, and only complain about the campaign. I've enjoyed playing from the xenomorph's POV since AvP 2000, and AvP2 after that. That is the main reason I am getting the game.

The second reason is that I have been a ALIEN fan for nearly twenty years and, since Fox green-lit this as canonical, i'm interested to see what they do with the storyline. And while I don't expect the story to be superb, I don't see any of the problems/issues presented by any review i've read in here to hinder the overall story.

Wow, your standards are low. Do you even like videogames?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: OpenMaw on Feb 09, 2013, 02:40:13 PM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 09, 2013, 11:16:47 AM
2) AI sucks in most games. I think some of the AI in even Halo 4 sucks.

No, actually, I haven't seen AI performing this poorly in quite some time.

Quote from: Predaker on Feb 09, 2013, 04:12:22 AM
So if I don't like that mod you made with the flamethrower in the air ducts, it's perfectly acceptable to post pictures of your face and make fun of you?

Was I making outlandish promises and hyping the shit out of it? No. I cited an example with regards to AI. That's it. I didn't lie to anybody about the content.

Not to mention, I expect something more from a developer with several dozen members working on something for six years with millions of dollars invested than a single hobbyist working out of his freaking bedroom. Just a bit of a gap there, wouldn't you say?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Byohzrd on Feb 09, 2013, 03:35:17 PM
to those who have the game, whats the customization like? Marine and Xeno? screencaps if possible?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WinterActual on Feb 09, 2013, 03:37:33 PM
Watch the IGN Live! and you can see the full customization  ;)
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: RedHood on Feb 09, 2013, 03:56:45 PM
quote author=OpenMaw link=topic=47082.msg1608298#msg1608298 date=1360420813]
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 09, 2013, 11:16:47 AM
2) AI sucks in most games. I think some of the AI in even Halo 4 sucks.

No, actually, I haven't seen AI performing this poorly in quite some time.

Quote from: Predaker on Feb 09, 2013, 04:12:22 AM
So if I don't like that mod you made with the flamethrower in the air ducts, it's perfectly acceptable to post pictures of your face and make fun of you?

QuoteWas I making outlandish promises and hyping the shit out of it? No. I cited an example with regards to AI. That's it. I didn't lie to anybody about the content.

Not to mention, I expect something more from a developer with several dozen members working on something for six years with millions of dollars invested than a single hobbyist working out of his freaking bedroom. Just a bit of a gap there, wouldn't you say?

OpenMaw you really remind me of Hudson when he spazzez out.

6 YEARS MAN, 6 YEARS MAKING THIS GAME! IT AIN'T FAIR MAN

(https://thedoorisajar.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/hudson.jpg)
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: OpenMaw on Feb 09, 2013, 04:05:54 PM
Quote from: Sgt.Camacho on Feb 09, 2013, 03:56:45 PM
6 YEARS MAN, 6 YEARS MAKING THIS GAME! IT AIN'T FAIR MAN

https://thedoorisajar.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/hudson.jpg

Don't know how you're making that leap. I'm not yelling, angry, afraid, panicky, irrational, or nonsensical.

If you have a point you disagree on, state it and refute it. Trying to say i'm emotional, irrational, or a cry baby doesn't discount what i'm saying.

It's a fact. I can list dozens of games released over the last twelve years that have had exceptional AI compared to what we've seen so far in A:CM.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Byohzrd on Feb 09, 2013, 04:06:38 PM
Quote from: WinterActual on Feb 09, 2013, 03:37:33 PM
Watch the IGN Live! and you can see the full customization  ;)
but not the xeno customization man XD chompin at the bit to see these ridiculous cosmetic upgrades
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: OpenMaw on Feb 09, 2013, 04:07:21 PM
Quote from: Byohzrd on Feb 09, 2013, 04:06:38 PM
Quote from: WinterActual on Feb 09, 2013, 03:37:33 PM
Watch the IGN Live! and you can see the full customization  ;)
but not the xeno customization man XD chompin at the bit to see these ridiculous cosmetic upgrades

They did show some of it very briefly at one point.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Byohzrd on Feb 09, 2013, 04:11:19 PM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 09, 2013, 04:07:21 PM
Quote from: Byohzrd on Feb 09, 2013, 04:06:38 PM
Quote from: WinterActual on Feb 09, 2013, 03:37:33 PM
Watch the IGN Live! and you can see the full customization  ;)
but not the xeno customization man XD chompin at the bit to see these ridiculous cosmetic upgrades

They did show some of it very briefly at one point.
No they mentioned it when someone asked if you could change the color of your xeno and he said something vague about different cosmetic upgrades, they didn't show any though, they did however show some of the xeno loadouts and attack/defense upgrades.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: OpenMaw on Feb 09, 2013, 04:23:10 PM
Ah, my apologies. I thought that's what you were referring to.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Byohzrd on Feb 09, 2013, 04:31:54 PM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 09, 2013, 04:23:10 PM
Ah, my apologies. I thought that's what you were referring to.  :laugh:
Its all good mate, i'm just really interested in the crazy new designs they made for the xenos, the few i saw in the MP previews were okay at best, really hoping theres a lot more, there seemed like there was DOZENS of customizations for the marines i just hope the xenos got the same treatment.




Also, from what ive gathered from the videos posted, SP is meh at best, and MP is prettty sweet itself. I'm okay with this. Not thrilled, but not exactly heartbroken either, just, okay with it.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: DRAKE M. on Feb 09, 2013, 06:26:04 PM
Can we get a PC Review?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Kalawaki on Feb 09, 2013, 06:28:43 PM
Quote from: reecebomb on Feb 09, 2013, 02:14:30 PM
Wow, your standards are low. Do you even like videogames?
If I sold half of the video games I own for half the price I paid for them, I could probably pay off my car.

I'm an avid gamer. I just know what to expect from a video game, and have my priorities more on gameplay, multiplayer, and the overall story rather then small details like graphics.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Jango1201 on Feb 09, 2013, 06:44:45 PM
So I just got through a few missions. What is everyone complaining about? The graphics look great on my Xbox and high def television. The game play is entertaining and the mix between human and alien enemies is good. The AI definitely needs a little work but its nothin to cry over as I've seen so much worse. Story is pulling me in so far and is keeping my interest in completing the SP campaign. Lurkers are definitely my favorite encounters so far and I'm hoping to run into more. When I complete the game ill put my full review. I think gamers like me who don't nitpick at every single little detail will enjoy this game.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Dovahkiin on Feb 09, 2013, 06:59:55 PM
Quote from: Jango1201 on Feb 09, 2013, 06:44:45 PM
So I just got through a few missions. What is everyone complaining about? The graphics look great on my Xbox and high def television. The game play is entertaining and the mix between human and alien enemies is good. The AI definitely needs a little work but its nothin to cry over as I've seen so much worse. Story is pulling me in so far and is keeping my interest in completing the SP campaign. Lurkers are definitely my favorite encounters so far and I'm hoping to run into more. When I complete the game ill put my full review. I think gamers like me who don't nitpick at every single little detail will enjoy this game.

^Probably going to be exactly what I think.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Xeno_Killer on Feb 09, 2013, 07:01:28 PM
I'm also enjoying the game immensely, it's not perfect but its still great fun and very playable.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Dachande on Feb 09, 2013, 08:56:33 PM
ATTN: Byohazard.

From what i've looked through each Xeno has 3 different head customisations. the Warrior has three that look like dinosaur skulls, some of which look pretty sweet. The Spitter has 3 variations of the bulbous green sacs, with different patterns. ATM i can't remember all the Lurker one's, but the one that springs to mind was a really awesome looking one with no dome, a sort of spiked mohawk, and the original Alien face, so it looks kinda like a skull.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Darkness on Feb 09, 2013, 09:09:46 PM
I just finished playing the campaign. Took me exactly six hours. Here's my thoughts coming from someone who has barely followed the game for the past few months.

The good:

Rooted in the Aliens universe but I don't consider it canon.

Graphics look fine to me. Environments are very nicely detailed. I liked being able to explore Hadley's Hope and the Derelict even if everything is very linear in nature.

Iron Sights and been able to crouch are a big plus.

The atmosphere, I guess.

Some alien classes that we've not seen before.

Michael Biehn and Lance Henriksen. Even though they didn't have much to do. It was nice having the connection.

Ability to upgrade your weapons.

The bad:

The character models could be a lot better. How they look and move.

There's quite a few bugs. Lip-sync issues. A lot of doors seem to take to up to 30 seconds to open. Not sure if that's a bug or deliberate. The way the xenos move and die. Some seem to vanish in front of you while others explode.

Marines - I didn't like how the shooting felt. Maybe it was the sound effects. But it felt very weird when you hit a human or a xeno. For some reason it was hard getting the gun steady with iron sights. Aiming for headshots if near impossible as the gun is bouncing around. Doesn't seem to do it when you upgrade it though.

The weapon selection menu thing is a mess quite frankly. Takes way too long to get what you want. The motion tracker should also be part of the HUD, not tucked away.

The game isn't scary but I don't think the series ever can be.

The biggest complaint for me is the complete lack of story. There really isn't one. There's very few cut scenes that actually explains anything and the game ends rather abruptly. The game basically gives you the chance to explore the Sulaco, Hadleys Hope and the Derelict while doing some objectives. That's it. It's not necessarily a bad thing but it could have been so much better.




How does it compare to AvP? Hard to say as there were three separate campaigns in AVP with varied environments and gameplay. I'd say Rebellion were a lot more passionate about the franchise than Gearbox ever was. At the end of the day though, it's just a game set in the Aliens universe and in a few months, we'll have forgotten all about it. It's just not worth arguing about the things that could have been better.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Enenra on Feb 09, 2013, 10:25:21 PM
Darkness, why can you only hurt? I could laugh off the fan reviews as people expecting too much, but I trust you. I really wanted this game to be just average, above average maybe.

Damn. DS3 and A:CM. GoW Judgement is going to be this way too. The only silver lining is at least Halo 4 is popular and I like it.

Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 09, 2013, 10:29:44 PM
Quote from: Enenra on Feb 09, 2013, 10:25:21 PM
Darkness, why can you only hurt? I could laugh off the fan reviews as people expecting too much, but I trust you. I really wanted this game to be just average, above average maybe.

Damn. DS3 and A:CM. GoW Judgement is going to be this way too. The only silver lining is at least Halo 4 is popular and I like it.

I liked Halo 4 as well but there were some things I definitely did not like. But it was still a very good game.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Skull on Feb 09, 2013, 11:58:19 PM
I got the game today . i have not yet completed singleplayer but i am pretty far in . I must say i realy like it so far . Yes sure it feels kind of dated it has some bugs here and there but i hope a patch will be released soon for this. only thing is story could have been better and the scare factor is almost except for mission 5 not present . Multiplayer is also  little buggy but i have had a blast so far :) . its realy cool to stalk and pounce your buddys from the dark .  i will give it a solid 7 out of 10 , just dont go in expecting the ultimate alien experience . still think avp 2 holds that title, for me that is .
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: spychi on Feb 10, 2013, 12:19:49 AM
Quote from: Enenra on Feb 09, 2013, 10:25:21 PM
Darkness, why can you only hurt? I could laugh off the fan reviews as people expecting too much, but I trust you. I really wanted this game to be just average, above average maybe.

Damn. DS3 and A:CM. GoW Judgement is going to be this way too. The only silver lining is at least Halo 4 is popular and I like it.

Dead Space 3 is an awesome game, A:CM completly the opposite. The game just ruined my entire day. I would have rather spend my money on something different, or even give my money to charity... instead I am stuck with a box I don't want to open anymore...
I am no longer pre-ordering games... such a waste of everything including my hopes
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Vertigo on Feb 10, 2013, 12:40:01 AM
Quote from: Darkness on Feb 09, 2013, 09:09:46 PMThe game isn't scary but I don't think the series ever can be.

Really? All of the AvP games can be exceptionally scary in my opinion.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Kalawaki on Feb 10, 2013, 12:55:47 AM
Quote from: Darkness on Feb 09, 2013, 09:09:46 PM
The motion tracker should also be part of the HUD, not tucked away.
I disagree entirely. It was a seperate device in the film that the marines had to holister their weapons and hold out in front of them, it was never a part of their HUD. I prefer it this way, it adds more gameplay. "Should I keep my weapon ready, or sneak a quick glance at the tracker since it's pinging?"
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: OpenMaw on Feb 10, 2013, 01:05:10 AM
Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 10, 2013, 12:55:47 AM
Quote from: Darkness on Feb 09, 2013, 09:09:46 PM
The motion tracker should also be part of the HUD, not tucked away.
I disagree entirely. It was a seperate device in the film that the marines had to holister their weapons and hold out in front of them, it was never a part of their HUD. I prefer it this way, it adds more gameplay. "Should I keep my weapon ready, or sneak a quick glance at the tracker since it's pinging?"

In fact, several mods for various games made that the way it functioned. You had to pull it out, and risk being caught off guard.

Aliens : Online, had it that way too. Which I thought was way cooler, especially because it took up a large chunk of your screen.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: hfeldhaus on Feb 10, 2013, 02:06:52 AM
alot of people are completely off topic. i clicked on here to read reviews not people bitching about a game they've yet to play.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: JokersWarPig on Feb 10, 2013, 02:15:30 AM
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Feb 10, 2013, 02:06:52 AM
alot of people are completely off topic. i clicked on here to read reviews not people bitching about a game they've yet to play.
This. Every time I've looked at this thread.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Kalawaki on Feb 10, 2013, 02:26:22 AM
Quote from: JokersWarPig on Feb 10, 2013, 02:15:30 AM
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Feb 10, 2013, 02:06:52 AM
alot of people are completely off topic. i clicked on here to read reviews not people bitching about a game they've yet to play.
This. Every time I've looked at this thread.
Seconded.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: SiL on Feb 10, 2013, 04:34:59 AM
Cos posting "This thread is off topic" and have it followed by two posts that contribute f**k-all but "Agreed" is helping.

I don't know how far through I am -- I just finished the mission The Raven -- and so far my only gripes stem from two things:

* It's about as tense as watching kittens frolicking in a field of daffodils
* Their attempts to make the game flow with the game are making me pick holes in it where I otherwise wouldn't care.

There's no threat from the Aliens. The only times I've died so far have been from accidentally blowing myself up with a pulse rifle grenade, a sentry gun cutting me down before I saw it, and getting trounced by the first boss thing because we couldn't see the pipe we were supposed to run through to get around him. I'm amazed at the utter, utter lack of any kind of suspense or atmosphere in the game, which is a first for me playing an Aliens-related FPS. The AvP games, particularly the first two PC ones, were tense as balls and they barely had Aliens in their first marine missions (Slash none at all for AvP2).
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Remonster on Feb 10, 2013, 04:59:53 AM
Quote from: SiL on Feb 10, 2013, 04:34:59 AM
Cos posting "This thread is off topic" and have it followed by two posts that contribute f**k-all but "Agreed" is helping.

I don't know how far through I am -- I just finished the mission The Raven -- and so far my only gripes stem from two things:

* It's about as tense as watching kittens frolicking in a field of daffodils
* Their attempts to make the game flow with the game are making me pick holes in it where I otherwise wouldn't care.

There's no threat from the Aliens. The only times I've died so far have been from accidentally blowing myself up with a pulse rifle grenade, a sentry gun cutting me down before I saw it, and getting trounced by the first boss thing because we couldn't see the pipe we were supposed to run through to get around him. I'm amazed at the utter, utter lack of any kind of suspense or atmosphere in the game, which is a first for me playing an Aliens-related FPS. The AvP games, particularly the first two PC ones, were tense as balls and they barely had Aliens in their first marine missions (Slash none at all for AvP2).

I might have missed it earlier, but what difficulty are you paying as? And how does the shooting feel? The Gunplay in borderlands 1 felt too floaty, but they improved it quite a bit in the sequel and I'm curious how it compares.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: SiL on Feb 10, 2013, 06:51:34 AM
I think I've only got it on Soldier, but considering how inaccurate every weapon is and how many Aliens you get swarmed by, there should be some struggle.

The shooting feels like playing Borderlands before you level up your weapon proficiency ... even with upgrades. I can't tell if I've hit anything half the time unless I'm right next to it.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Space Sweeper on Feb 10, 2013, 06:54:55 AM
I just watched a full 1080p walkthrough of the campaign, and have not yet played the game myself. These are my thoughts on what can be seen and what has made itself apparent, having played or not.




At one point in the campaign, a Marine can be seen through glass in an incredibly small boxed room that serves seemingly no purpose. He's screaming things as he shoots into a dark vent over and over where aliens are presumably trying to advance on him from. You're supposed to cut the door to get him out, but it's clear that you can keep watching him through the glass do this forever on a loop. All of the elements are there to make it a summation of the campaign. Confining, repetitive, and obnoxious.

This is the Duke Nukem Forever Gearbox and not the Borderlands Gearbox, to be certain. The game design is outdated, the gameplay is a headache of repetition as you gun down a plethora of Aliens and (what seems to be even more) Weyland Yutani mercenaries, press buttons, and move on to the next 'wink wink' setpiece. And man are they utterly unspectacular. While the aesthetic is better than most games, and follows closely to that of Aliens, the actual spaces are dull playgrounds, like a gravel 'sandbox'. It comes down to uninspired, linear fan service that is magically cramped close together.

The plot is next to non-existent. Luckily, there are some bearable characters (aside from Cruz' unbearable macho-man voice and godawful lines) with likeable personalities and well done voice-acting work. The writing isn't anything special, but most of anything amusing comes from the in-game banter. As for the story, the claim that it will make you feel that Alien³ is better because of it is utterly self-indulgent and not true in the slightest bit...

Spoiler
All it does is salvage Hicks and give a reason for the Sulacco going into high-alert and ejecting the EEV, never once mentioning the egg on-board or how Ripley was impregnated. The worst part is Hicks never explaining but supposedly knowing why there was a body in his place. When asked whose body it is, he simply responds "that's a longer story". Are you-- are you f**king kidding me? The one thing left from validating his presence in the game aside from being fan-wank and that's what we get? "That's a longer story"? f**k off. That is truly terrible writing.
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Atmosphere is something I thought the game would actually have going for it, but after the first 10 or so minutes of actual gameplay and once the hordes of brainless xenos come in, with the Call of Duty-Experience™ Weyland-Yutani mercs very soon after, it goes straight out the window. Everything around the player, from the environments to the aliens themselves just become novelty items and the authenticity that the game was so heavily hyped upon (thank you, Gearbox PR department) is nothing more than a nudge and a wink. Any AvP game did it better... and those had Predators for god's sake.

I'll try not to dwell on the graphics for too long, but technically in general, the game is less-than remarkable. The character models and ani... er, animations (if that's what they can truly be called) are last-gen, and that is no hyperbole. It shows how long the game has been in development for in the worst way, and without the excuse of a studio switch like Duke Nukem Forever had. If a facial expression ever changed, it was a slight furrow of the brow and nothing more. On top of that, the eyes barely blinked, the mouths seldom moved, and everybody looked as though they were lacking an entire texture layer. From a distance, some of the lighting looks pretty and helps with the mood of some of the lower-maintenance scenes, but it's just a distraction from what it looks like when you move slightly closer. The sound design is the best part of the presentation with everything hitting the right beats, the score most of all, but after a while, like the rest of the game, it all drones on and recycles itself to headache inducing levels.

The AI are below sub-par (save from the sometimes cunning and oddly competent Lurker), particularly friendlies, doing next to nothing at all aside from shooting what is directly in their line of sight. They're useless, and the enemies aren't much better. The Wey-Yu mercs will pull the standard duck and cover or stand out in the open and shout 'come, sweet death' as your gunfire reigns down upon them. At least your teammates blocking doorways isn't an issue, seeing as you can clip right through them at any time as if you were f**king Casper the Friendly Ghost. Really, at no point in development, did nobody look at the fact that you could walk straight through your allies and think "this is kind of awful"? Who am I kidding, they've got the a million other un-assessed basic problems on their hands already. These are basic contemporary game design expectations, so please, apologists, think before you forgive this kind of miserable offering.

I figure I'll wrap it up pretty quickly here, seeing as this is slipping into TL;DR territory, if I haven't reached that point already. I may get some flack for writing this before playing the game myself, but after watching it the whole way through for 6+ hours, what more can be said for the game's campaign? I'm still holding out hope that much more attention has been put into the multiplayer and playing it with friends will hold up nicely (as it did with AvP 2010... though even that, for all of its backtracking, had a better Marine campaign than this). This has been a troubling 6-year stretch blunder of a game, and it seems to just ride the backs of a slew of other games that have come out in that time... most notably Call of Duty and Battlefield series. With nothing but Alien and repeat mercs, that formula can't fly in the Alien universe, and this is exhibit-A of why not.

As somebody who has gone along for the full arc of this game's hype, even at times playing the optimist, I can honestly and objectively say that this is certainly not the sequel to Aliens we 'always wanted'.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Enenra on Feb 10, 2013, 07:33:54 AM
I was so excited for this game. SO hopeful. Duke Nukem territory huh? Fantastic. I even skipped out on registering for a school dance because I figured this is what I'd want to be doing on my Friday. Don't I feel retarded.

Hopefully I'll still have fun with the game, even if it is a another buttcheeks quality rendition of a once great franchise.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: UDA on Feb 10, 2013, 08:04:15 AM
I've started a couple of threads recently, and I intend for this to be my last. In the other threads I tried not to get to the point of just utterly insulting the developers, but now that's I've seen the game beginning to end, I can't help but say I am actually kind of offended.  I know that's probably taking it a bit far, but I don't bother much with games these days, and when I do it's usually something that I'm already invested and interested in. I think most of the real Aliens fans are the ones who were alive to see at least the third movie in theatres, and that's the perspective I'm taking.

First off, this game was in development for a long time, scrapped, and reworked, and this is what they make. This wouldn't be a huge point with me, but I'm an avid hater of mindless shooter games, such as Call of Duty. I asked a friend to sit through a walk through with me, and around the fourth part he mentioned that this was a "clone of Call of Duty." Granted, with aliens. I'm not asking for the most intelligent game out there with this one, nor was I expecting it, but to Have Hicks alive and not really explain how or why (the body that was on the EEV is still a mystery, as far as I know), is a flat out slap in the face to the efforts of those who made Alien 3 (which was trouble from the beginning, but released by the perseverance of Fincher. For a young guy he had alot on his plate).

Also, he mentioned that the graphics were "Practically last Gen" which I agree with. There's alot of pixillation when you look at certain lights, or when you actually bother to study the surroundings. this was even brought up in a walk through of the game I watched later. For as long as this was in development, you'd think minor matters such as lights and glare would be honed in and polished off, it doesn't feel that way.

What was an amazing concept of no HUD at all has turned into "Badass mode" This to me is gimmicky. They might as well have added the motion tracker to the HUD (which, by the way, having to switch over to use it like it was done so in the film feels gimmicky). I believe anyone could beat this game without it and not miss it. Not that it was pertinent in the previous games, but at least then it wasn't a conscious effort to remind you that 'this is a game'.

The welding tool could have been used better. cutting open a hand-ful of doors, sealing others at key points in the game is kind of a turn off. The previous build always gave me the impression that the welding tool was more essential and offered more freedom. Don't want an alien sneaking up behind you? Weld the door. Need to hold a position against the aliens, weld the vents and doors shut. I could have just assumed to much, but as linear as this game is, we could have foregone the welding tool entirely, and it's just another cheap, near meaningless game mechanic. I was hoping ACM, because it's centered around the marines, would give the player more options and use out of these iconic pieces of equipment.

And the AA guns? What shooter game doesn't have those? Again, falling back on readily available mechanics to prolong the time spent playing the game. I had hoped for something more imaginative. The corridor shooter vibe of this game is possibly the second biggest turn off, after the "Canon" Story which infringes upon the canon of Aliens Resurrection (in matters of cannon, always go with the first media base, in this case the films, and then what established the facts firsts, in this case Aliens Resurrection, which i'm not much a fan of).

It's because of these things, and more that I've lost my drive to play this game. I don't like being the "Hater" but in this case, I think it's justified. Go look at my other posts and threads, I've given Gearbox as much benefit of the doubt as I reasonably could, as I know many others in this forum have. Gearbox called this cannon and authentic, and I just don't feel it, hear it or see it. The atmosphere might be similar, the guns might sound the game, but the story with Hicks, the massive amount of weyland yutani commandos, and the often silly Alien A.I. that we've seen in some of the walk throughs, I won't try to defend the developer anymore.

Enough of my rant for now, how about yours?


Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WinterActual on Feb 10, 2013, 08:23:13 AM
Quote from: SiL on Feb 10, 2013, 06:51:34 AM
I think I've only got it on Soldier, but considering how inaccurate every weapon is and how many Aliens you get swarmed by, there should be some struggle.

The shooting feels like playing Borderlands before you level up your weapon proficiency ... even with upgrades. I can't tell if I've hit anything half the time unless I'm right next to it.
Just like every GBX game since BL. Why they can't do the shooting like in BiA? It was fine there.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Jango1201 on Feb 10, 2013, 08:27:15 AM
I have no rant. I'm an alien fan for 20 years now and a casual gamer. I've played 1/2 the game and I love it so far. It has some fault but nothing that makes me feel insulted. I believe they really tried and would love to see someone do better (minus a graphics arguement).
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Darkness on Feb 10, 2013, 09:08:08 AM
Quote from: Vertigo on Feb 10, 2013, 12:40:01 AM
Quote from: Darkness on Feb 09, 2013, 09:09:46 PMThe game isn't scary but I don't think the series ever can be.

Really? All of the AvP games can be exceptionally scary in my opinion.

Perhaps when they first came out. But nowadays, we've seen the creatures that many times, they're just not scary any more.

Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 10, 2013, 12:55:47 AM
Quote from: Darkness on Feb 09, 2013, 09:09:46 PM
The motion tracker should also be part of the HUD, not tucked away.
I disagree entirely. It was a seperate device in the film that the marines had to holister their weapons and hold out in front of them, it was never a part of their HUD. I prefer it this way, it adds more gameplay. "Should I keep my weapon ready, or sneak a quick glance at the tracker since it's pinging?"

I get that it's a separate thing in the movies but you'll barely use it in singleplayer because of that. Apart from the first encounter with an alien, you never need it because there's always so many of them around you. I think if it was on screen, it would add to the tension a bit more hearing the beeps all the time.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: SiL on Feb 10, 2013, 09:12:03 AM
Knowing what they're like isn't why it's not scary; the game just isn't well done. Any enemy can be scary so long as it poses a threat and the game makes you fear for your character's wellbeing. That just did not happen here. When you dread the human enemies in an Aliens game more than the Aliens, you dun gone f**ked up.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Salt The Fries on Feb 10, 2013, 09:13:37 AM
Usually I'm pretty forgiving when it comes to games, I can get past unpolished games, because I try to see good sides in everything. Hell, I enjoyed Alone in the Dark from 2008...But come Tuesday, if it really turns out to be as bad as so many people already suggested - I might not account for my actions on Gearbox forums and I would never STOP.


Quote from: SiL on Feb 10, 2013, 09:12:03 AM
Knowing what they're like isn't why it's not scary; the game just isn't well done. Any enemy can be scary so long as it poses a threat and the game makes you fear for your character's wellbeing. That just did not happen here. When you dread the human enemies in an Aliens game more than the Aliens, you dun gone f**ked up.
So, still Alien: Resurrection remains the infinitely superior game, right?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: SiL on Feb 10, 2013, 09:30:17 AM
Compared to this, God yes. That game was great and the Aliens were pants-shitting in all their low-poly glory.

I finally finished the game, so I have some kind of review to write:

On the story front, this is one of the worst self-indulgent masturbatory fan-fics I've ever had the displeasure of sitting through, and good God have I read through a lot of them. I've read better fan-fics than this. I've written better fan-fics than this. The entire thing is geared towards crawling up Aliens' backside and making base camp somewhere around the lower intestinal tract. It's like watching someone pick up a priceless broken vase to glue it back together with hot glue muttering "See? See? It still fits! It still goes together! It can be just like nothing ever happened!"

In terms of the actual gameplay it's a shambles. The directional pad on the XBox 360 controller never seemed to work properly, and assigning two functions to one button -- turn your torch on and pull out your pistol -- ended with me drawing a pea-shooter in the middle of a fight with six Aliens when I decided it'd be nice to see what the hell was going on. I didn't mind the tracker being something you had to pick up, but the game was so devoid of atmosphere, tension, or dread, there didn't seem to be any risk in whipping it out to check for targets or see your mission waypoint. At that point they may as well have integrated it with the HUD like old times.

The worst aspect, though, for my money, when it comes to actually enjoying the game, is that the Aliens aren't the primary threat. The Weyland-Yutani guys are. Aliens may be in the title and there might be a shitload of the buggers, but the only sections which gave me difficulty in any real sense were ones wherein I was being shot at, not clawed to pieces. The Aliens were a persistent yet minor annoyance for most of the game, and I swear they didn't start bleeding acid until the last couple of levels.

Overall I sincerely feel like I've wasted my money :-\
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: SM on Feb 10, 2013, 09:33:50 AM
I find Gearbox expecting fans to swallow their bullshit about the storyline kind of insulting as well as their baseless claims about "authenticity".  Beyond that, can't say without playing it.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: SiL on Feb 10, 2013, 09:35:58 AM
"Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining" springs to mind when it comes to what was said vs. what was delivered.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: spacemarine on Feb 10, 2013, 09:46:10 AM
Is every god damn shooter game going to be a Call of duty clone from now on.
By the sounds of some people you would think COD was the first shooter game ever made. >:(
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ShadowPred on Feb 10, 2013, 09:51:08 AM
I want to post every quote of mine that I can find on this game, but all I'll say is that I am not personally insulted, but I do feel offended when they say all this stuff about being authentic, and that every details is strictly the same as the movie...which it obviously is not. The fact that they continue to stay adamant about this is madness.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Salt The Fries on Feb 10, 2013, 09:55:43 AM
It's like Uwe Boll now, isn't it? It has reached THAT levels of denial, hasn't it?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: pixelbaron on Feb 10, 2013, 09:59:40 AM
If Uwe Boll made a  movie I think we'd come full circle.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Salt The Fries on Feb 10, 2013, 09:59:56 AM
After playing Halo 4 multiplayer for just 2 days - there was no f**king way I'd trade that awesomeness for A:CM...In the end I'm glad I kinda bought A:CM - I'll have something to trade it in for BioShock: Infinite and keep Halo 4 - FOREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVER!!!

Looks like A:CM won't even make me sell L4D2 to keep a multiplayer-oriented game in my possession...
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Darkness on Feb 10, 2013, 10:02:43 AM
I never even realised the motion tracker also had your objectives on it until the end of the game. That's how much I used it. Could have done with having the objectives on screen all the time.

I don't think the acid even hurts you does it?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ShadowPred on Feb 10, 2013, 10:04:39 AM
Quote from: Darkness on Feb 10, 2013, 10:02:43 AM


I don't think the acid even hurts you does it?


From what I've seen, it only makes you not be able to regenerate a health slot like you normally would if you were attacked by a claw, or a bullet, or something. It's possible that it does damage you, but if it does I'm not seeing.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: SiL on Feb 10, 2013, 10:11:04 AM
Acid spit seems to bypass your armour to damage you. I noticed I was taking damage when I shot Aliens up close and walked on their corpses towards the end of the game, but the first Alien I killed I blasted with a shotgun and danced a merry jig on its corpse with no repercussions.

Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Salt The Fries on Feb 10, 2013, 10:12:21 AM
My God, even in Alien Trilogy acid from the corpses hurt you upon walking...In Alien Resurrection they could spit acid on you at times and it was a pleasant surprise how much they were able to do there, acid hurt you too...Oh and they only walked bi-pedally once they were close to you and centered at you.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: SiL on Feb 10, 2013, 10:14:27 AM
The AvP for the Atari Jaguar was the biggest pain with acid blood. Alien corpses never disappeared and would often take up the whole hallway -- and clogged vents something chronic.

But with this, I don't even know. Maybe on higher difficulty settings?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: SilkySilly on Feb 10, 2013, 10:20:58 AM
What is wrong with u people the game is brilliant. Seems like all u want to do is hurt the sales of this game and then will never be an aliens game ever again and this forum will have nothing to moan about seeing as u killed the franchise with ur whining. All i can say is play the game on ultimate badass mode if u want to install fear and get the proper experience. Playing the game in normal and fluing theough it in 6 hours is not how u play this game or watching a 6 hour video. The aliens are a real threat in UBA mode and i often get cut down when overwhelmed by them.
The AI seems good to me,the weyland yutani flank me,the aliens flank me,they attack from all directions just like the end scene in hadleys hope.and the aliens dont have a high IQ in the films anyway so what do u expect.

The graphics are great particually the lighting. The animations on the cut scenes are not the best i admit which kinda pulls you out of the experience sometimes but it wasnt a major issue like some moan about on here. Im here to kill bugs nothing more and this game lets me do that with style

Dont let the moaners on here cloud your judgement. Judge the game yourself.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: SiL on Feb 10, 2013, 10:25:33 AM
What a load of wank.

There's been plenty of unsuccessful Aliens games. We still ended up with this one being made. There'll always be more.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 10, 2013, 10:40:16 AM
Quote from: SiL on Feb 10, 2013, 10:25:33 AM
What a load of wank.

There's been plenty of unsuccessful Aliens games. We still ended up with this one being made. There'll always be more.

If ACM sells more than AVP 2010, which I think it will, then we will definitely see another game withing 2-3 years. I just want ONE good one. ONE that can be GOTY material. Is that too much to ask?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Darkness on Feb 10, 2013, 10:43:29 AM
I don't think it'll sell anywhere near as much as AvP did.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: SilkySilly on Feb 10, 2013, 10:43:44 AM
Quote from: SiL on Feb 10, 2013, 10:25:33 AM
What a load of wank.

There's been plenty of unsuccessful Aliens games. We still ended up with this one being made. There'll always be more.

And the last unseccessful AAA aliens title was called what
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ShadowPred on Feb 10, 2013, 10:45:34 AM
Quote from: SilkySilly on Feb 10, 2013, 10:43:44 AM
Quote from: SiL on Feb 10, 2013, 10:25:33 AM
What a load of wank.

There's been plenty of unsuccessful Aliens games. We still ended up with this one being made. There'll always be more.

And the last unseccessful AAA aliens title was called what

Triple A or not, we'll see the Xenomorphs in video game form again.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Space Sweeper on Feb 10, 2013, 10:46:24 AM
Quote from: SilkySilly on Feb 10, 2013, 10:20:58 AM
What is wrong with u people the game is brilliant. Seems like all u want to do is hurt the sales of this game and then will never be an aliens game ever again and this forum will have nothing to moan about seeing as u killed the franchise with ur whining.
Yeah man, I'm hoping for a good, hm, let's say six thousand unit sale loss because of my negative review of the campaign.

Quote from: SilkySilly on Feb 10, 2013, 10:43:44 AM
Quote from: SiL on Feb 10, 2013, 10:25:33 AM
What a load of wank.

There's been plenty of unsuccessful Aliens games. We still ended up with this one being made. There'll always be more.

And the last unseccessful AAA aliens title was called what
The last AAA Aliens title was called what?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Salt The Fries on Feb 10, 2013, 10:50:53 AM
Gearbox flat out lied about so many things it's not even funny. We should not let them get away with that.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: teras on Feb 10, 2013, 10:51:46 AM
Gearbox made the mistake of starting the campaign with the Sulaco.
If the first level was Hadley's hope, the reception would have been better because first impressions are most important.
Anyway, with all it's shortcomings it's still a fun game to play when you actually play.
And I insist that it's miles better than AvP 2010!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: SilkySilly on Feb 10, 2013, 10:54:45 AM
Avp 2010 was a AAA title.

(video games) A video game expected to sell well, typically with a higher budget than budget software.[1]
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Darkness on Feb 10, 2013, 10:55:30 AM
I must admit it took a bit too long to get to Hadley's Hope. It was nice to have a change of scenery.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: SilkySilly on Feb 10, 2013, 11:12:58 AM
They did drag out the sulaco section. I think level 2 was fun but pointless. They game picks up when you hit hadleys hope
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Kalawaki on Feb 10, 2013, 11:18:32 AM
Quote from: Darkness on Feb 10, 2013, 09:08:08 AM
Quote from: Vertigo on Feb 10, 2013, 12:40:01 AM
Quote from: Darkness on Feb 09, 2013, 09:09:46 PMThe game isn't scary but I don't think the series ever can be.

Really? All of the AvP games can be exceptionally scary in my opinion.

Perhaps when they first came out. But nowadays, we've seen the creatures that many times, they're just not scary any more.

Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 10, 2013, 12:55:47 AM
Quote from: Darkness on Feb 09, 2013, 09:09:46 PM
The motion tracker should also be part of the HUD, not tucked away.
I disagree entirely. It was a seperate device in the film that the marines had to holister their weapons and hold out in front of them, it was never a part of their HUD. I prefer it this way, it adds more gameplay. "Should I keep my weapon ready, or sneak a quick glance at the tracker since it's pinging?"

I get that it's a separate thing in the movies but you'll barely use it in singleplayer because of that. Apart from the first encounter with an alien, you never need it because there's always so many of them around you. I think if it was on screen, it would add to the tension a bit more hearing the beeps all the time.
So let me get this straight.

You guys are all complaining that this game isn't immersive and has very little atmosphere, and yet you want to get rid of one of the only gameplay mechanics that add immersion? A gameplay mechanic that was shown to be used in the exact same way in the films, no less.


Brilliance.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Darkness on Feb 10, 2013, 11:21:01 AM
No, the opposite. I wanted the motion tracker on the screen all the time, not hidden away.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Elicas on Feb 10, 2013, 11:23:11 AM
I think the issue is that the tracker is useless because there are so many Aliens on screen. What's the point when they are literally coming out of the walls? You don't see them using a tracker in the Hive once the shit hits the fan. On the other hand, the tracker is excellently well done when fighting Lurkers in the Hives.

Basically all the Warriors should have been scrapped, and every level consist of 4-5 Lurkers who can kill you in one hit. Sorted.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Space Sweeper on Feb 10, 2013, 11:25:27 AM
Kalawaki, I know you're a faith-driven apologist and all, but do try to understand what people are saying. The motion tracker adds nothing to the experience because the gameplay seldom requires it. Like everything else, it's a novelty item. Try playing one of the AvP games where it's part of the HUD, and you'll see that it's of more persistent use (also having to do with the Aliens trying to stalk instead of rush).
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ShadowPred on Feb 10, 2013, 11:27:02 AM
It just occurred to me that being able to use the Motion Tracker is no different than occasionally glancing at a motion tracker that is a part of your hud...holy f**k this knowledge saddens me. Regardless, I think it's a nice addition, but yeah.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Space Sweeper on Feb 10, 2013, 11:31:44 AM
Let's see if it's a more valuable dynamic in MP where human wit comes into play.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 10, 2013, 11:40:31 AM
Quote from: Darkness on Feb 10, 2013, 10:43:29 AM
I don't think it'll sell anywhere near as much as AvP did.

Why? People wanted another game and AVP was a letdown. I can see sheer sales just because of the name alone.


Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 10, 2013, 11:27:02 AM
It just occurred to me that being able to use the Motion Tracker is no different than occasionally glancing at a motion tracker that is a part of your hud...holy f**k this knowledge saddens me. Regardless, I think it's a nice addition, but yeah.

That icon is too small to tell where movement is and how far. I don't really think it's a big deal. I'd rather not have it at all though. Rely on your ears when the pings start going off.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Darkness on Feb 10, 2013, 11:44:02 AM
We were all waiting for an AvP game forever. It already had an established franchise. The only thing ACM has is the fact it's based on Aliens. Is that enough? Plus, the marketing for ACM has been pretty poor compared to AvP.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Elicas on Feb 10, 2013, 11:46:57 AM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 10, 2013, 11:40:31 AM
Quote from: Darkness on Feb 10, 2013, 10:43:29 AM
I don't think it'll sell anywhere near as much as AvP did.

Why? People wanted another game and AVP was a letdown. I can see sheer sales just because of the name alone.

Not necessarily, a major part of the gaming turnover is going to be your typical 16-20 year old male right? I suggested to my nephew to wait for reviews before buying the new Aliens game as he always buys the latest shooters. Not only had he never heard of this game, he'd never heard of or seen the original Alien quadrilogy, his entire knowledge of Aliens and Predators is that AVP and AVP:R were shit, and who cares about those things anyways?

He's 17, and we're in the UK (maybe Aliens is more prevalent in the states, I do not know) but at least in my experience, anyone under the age of 25 is a very real minority in the Aliens fanbase. Even tried running a D&D campaign recently at my local FLGS based on recreating the film Aliens. We got one sign up, out of a forum with over two hundred gaming members, because it wasn't 40k or Warmachine and most of them had either never heard of Aliens or thought it was simply old and shit.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: szkoki on Feb 10, 2013, 11:48:46 AM
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Feb 10, 2013, 10:46:24 AM
Quote from: SilkySilly on Feb 10, 2013, 10:20:58 AM
What is wrong with u people the game is brilliant. Seems like all u want to do is hurt the sales of this game and then will never be an aliens game ever again and this forum will have nothing to moan about seeing as u killed the franchise with ur whining.
Yeah man, I'm hoping for a good, hm, let's say six thousand unit sale loss because of my negative review of the campaign.

Quote from: SilkySilly on Feb 10, 2013, 10:43:44 AM
Quote from: SiL on Feb 10, 2013, 10:25:33 AM
What a load of wank.

There's been plenty of unsuccessful Aliens games. We still ended up with this one being made. There'll always be more.

And the last unseccessful AAA aliens title was called what
The last AAA Aliens title was called what?

Aliens Infestation (DS) 10/10
Aliens Resurrection (PSX) 10/10  (just the movie killed this game for me aswell...i just couldnt play it)
/and imo Aliens vs Predator: Extinction (PS2) 8/10 /

these games imo had everything u want in an Aliens game and they are quality games

i like really AVP2 aswell because of the scary atmosphere on that distant planet but had some annoying bugs for me...eg. saved a bunch of marines in a scripted alien attack where they supposed to die...then they stood there in the hallway waiting for the colony to explode.. -.-' a big moment killer not to have a line for this situation like "we are going after you buddy or something..."
AND YES I JUST HATED THIS IN IT thats why is just a 8/10 for me :D
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Salt The Fries on Feb 10, 2013, 11:51:45 AM
I can't believe not only Aliens: Infestation but also AVP 2010 might turn out to be a lot better games than this...
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ShadowPred on Feb 10, 2013, 11:57:15 AM
Until I get my hands on it, I really can't tell if this is better or worse than AvP 2010...because that game made me so mad at how broken it was.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: szkoki on Feb 10, 2013, 12:06:00 PM
i dunno guys whats your problem with AVP2010 besides it's length, story, voice acting, characters...and it was just empty, no alien vibe at all ...but as a shooter and as a game it was ok, no serious glitches, dumb things and graphic problems

it seems like ACM has the same problems plus its not a well written game
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ShadowPred on Feb 10, 2013, 12:11:01 PM
Quote from: szkoki on Feb 10, 2013, 12:06:00 PM
i dunno guys whats your problem with AVP2010 besides it's length, story, voice acting, characters...and it was just empty, no alien vibe at all ...but as a shooter and as a game it was ok, no serious glitches, dumb things and graphic problems

it seems like ACM has the same problems plus its not a well written game


Well, besides all that, I have to chalk up my experience with very bad A.I. then. Because for me, The Aliens were literally falling into single file lines. You could stealth kill a Marine, and his buddy...who wasn't even 8 feet away, would even bother to do anything, and if they did see the body...only that Marine would be on patrol mode while another who was fairly close would just be standing there. The former marine would eventually end patrolling and act as if his buddy wasn't killed. It was really awful in that regard for me if you don't count everything else that was bad.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Space Sweeper on Feb 10, 2013, 12:18:39 PM
Well, aside from the backtracking, AvP 2010 was actually a competently designed and programmed game in the basic respects. What it really lacked was species balance, even level design, replayability, better pacing, and proper story conclusion. It actually got quite a few things right in comparison to A:CM.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Lionhart on Feb 10, 2013, 12:25:01 PM
hey all, Been a long time ago since I wrote anything in here. I tried this game yesterday and I would like to share my opinion.

1. Graphic looks like this game was made for xbox 1 and not xbox 360 or ps3. 2. Gameplay is not that bad but its still bad that it sucks if you know what I mean. ME like many of you have been waiting for many years for this game to come out and when it got released then I wished it never did. They f**kt us all by releasing some good looking trailers but in real life this game has the graphic of a game that is 5 or 6 years old. The loading time when you die is a pain in the A. I could go smoke and take a coffe before the loading time is over.

The Aliens in this game looks bad, not enough blood, and picking up AMMO is a pain in the ass sometimes. I been playing dead space 3 and I can tell you its a masterpeace to this peace of crap game. Trust me when I say this, alot of people are gonna get pissed and dissapointed.

Only good thing about this game is the sound of the motion sensor and the rifle.  I will give this game 3.5 out of 10.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ScardyFox on Feb 10, 2013, 12:34:01 PM
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Feb 10, 2013, 11:25:27 AM
The motion tracker adds nothing to the experience because the gameplay seldom requires it.

Playing Devils advocate: Thats the meaning I have read so far from what people are saying.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Darkness on Feb 10, 2013, 12:35:22 PM
Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. The ammo pickups were just neverending. Why couldn't they just make it so that you could pick them up automatically without having to select a button.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Lionhart on Feb 10, 2013, 12:39:55 PM
Quote from: Darkness on Feb 10, 2013, 12:35:22 PM
Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. The ammo pickups were just neverending. Why couldn't they just make it so that you could pick them up automatically without having to select a button.
Good idea but to late now
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: szkoki on Feb 10, 2013, 12:49:55 PM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 10, 2013, 12:11:01 PM
Quote from: szkoki on Feb 10, 2013, 12:06:00 PM
i dunno guys whats your problem with AVP2010 besides it's length, story, voice acting, characters...and it was just empty, no alien vibe at all ...but as a shooter and as a game it was ok, no serious glitches, dumb things and graphic problems

it seems like ACM has the same problems plus its not a well written game


Well, besides all that, I have to chalk up my experience with very bad A.I. then. Because for me, The Aliens were literally falling into single file lines. You could stealth kill a Marine, and his buddy...who wasn't even 8 feet away, would even bother to do anything, and if they did see the body...only that Marine would be on patrol mode while another who was fairly close would just be standing there. The former marine would eventually end patrolling and act as if his buddy wasn't killed. It was really awful in that regard for me if you don't count everything else that was bad.

my bad :) i forgot i havent played with the predator that much because i dont like it...but that doesnt matter, fair point
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: BUGZ on Feb 10, 2013, 02:50:26 PM
Hi guys,

I managed to buy a copy of the game last night. Its great!

Graphics are superb. The game blends in well with the workd of J Cameron. The aliens themselves are very good.

Ive still to try MP. but the customs section is great fun!!

Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: AMC_Duke on Feb 10, 2013, 02:53:08 PM
Great to hear some positive feedback!  cant wait for tuesday

I have MY PC Collectors Edition Ready too

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net%2Fhphotos-ak-prn1%2F859255_413939228690299_256175532_o.jpg&hash=fa0f9e3f8145ac3f156344b735189daa60e1aad9)
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Corporate Merc on Feb 10, 2013, 03:00:14 PM
Quote from: BUGZ on Feb 10, 2013, 02:50:26 PM
Hi guys,

I managed to buy a copy of the game last night. Its great!

Graphics are superb. The game blends in well with the workd of J Cameron. The aliens themselves are very good.

Ive still to try MP. but the customs section is great fun!!

Game on man, what country you live in? I went to Walmart yesterday on the off chance they might have it but no dice. Guess I gotta wait till Tuesday like everyone else.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Kalawaki on Feb 10, 2013, 03:03:41 PM
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Feb 10, 2013, 11:25:27 AM
Kalawaki, I know you're a faith-driven apologist and all, but do try to understand what people are saying. The motion tracker adds nothing to the experience because the gameplay seldom requires it. Like everything else, it's a novelty item. Try playing one of the AvP games where it's part of the HUD, and you'll see that it's of more persistent use (also having to do with the Aliens trying to stalk instead of rush).
Pausing to look at the motion tracker is no different now then it was when it was smaller and at the bottom of your screen. I played both AvP, AvP2, and AvP2010. I never looked at my tracker while shooting something, and always watched it when not shooting something.

The fact is, having it a part of your HUD would be useful maybe on 2 occasions tops, because you wouldn't need to use it anyway. The problem isn't the Tracker mechanic, it's the abundancy of enemies. And without an abundance of enemies the game might feel dull and stagnated. In this game you would be too busy aiming and shooting regardless of the position of the tracker. By the logic you are giving me having a Tracker at all seems useless in this game.


QuoteWell, aside from the backtracking, AvP 2010 was actually a competently designed and programmed game in the basic respects.
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Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: BUGZ on Feb 10, 2013, 03:06:54 PM
UK based dude. Loving the game. I wont post spoilers, but they have kept to proper aliens tradition!

Loving the box set!! Ive pre ordered it!

Bri
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: OpenMaw on Feb 10, 2013, 03:17:49 PM
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Feb 10, 2013, 06:54:55 AM
-Snip.-

As somebody who has gone along for the full arc of this game's hype, even at times playing the optimist, I can honestly and objectively say that this is certainly not the sequel to Aliens we 'always wanted'.


Granted, as you said, you haven't played it yet. However, I think it is very possible to watch a game and see many of the issues cropping up. It's very linear, and it doesn't make good use of what it has in the license. (The tracker has been used far better in previous games, imho.)

It seems like such a sad end to this game's development.  So much potential, wasted.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WarriorRidged on Feb 10, 2013, 04:09:23 PM
What are Al Matthews, Michael Biehn, and Mark Rolston's voice acting like?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Gren_86 on Feb 10, 2013, 05:17:42 PM
Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 10, 2013, 03:03:41 PM
The fact is, having it a part of your HUD would be useful maybe on 2 occasions tops, because you wouldn't need to use it anyway. The problem isn't the Tracker mechanic, it's the abundancy of enemies. And without an abundance of enemies the game might feel dull and stagnated. In this game you would be too busy aiming and shooting regardless of the position of the tracker. By the logic you are giving me having a Tracker at all seems useless in this game.
I too find the motion tacker useless in SP because of the poor AI.
MP though is a whole different story.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Local Trouble on Feb 10, 2013, 07:50:07 PM
Quote from: Prime113 on Feb 08, 2013, 01:32:42 PMI think SEGA might be part of the problem. 343 won't be making it, as they are a halo only company I believe, and Bungie wants to do more original stuff. I say give it to Ubisoft. Ubisoft would be the shit!

I was thinking Rocksteady Studios should do it.  They turned their Batman license into gold with the Arkham games and I can only imagine what they'd do with Aliens.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 10, 2013, 09:33:36 PM
Two reviews that gave the game a 7 each

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGGP4NtRVbo#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGGP4NtRVbo#ws)

http://setinstonegaming.tumblr.com/post/42753536156/danxios-review-of-aliens-colonial-marines (http://setinstonegaming.tumblr.com/post/42753536156/danxios-review-of-aliens-colonial-marines)

I will take a 7 over the 5.5-6 that AVP 2010 was.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: PFC Hudson on Feb 10, 2013, 10:01:17 PM
I will also take that 7 over all the negativity I've been reading. I also find it interesting that the reviewer liked the campaign over the multi-player, most people have thought the opposite.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 10, 2013, 10:13:05 PM
Quote from: PFC Hudson on Feb 10, 2013, 10:01:17 PM
I will also take that 7 over all the negativity I've been reading. I also find it interesting that the reviewer liked the campaign over the multi-player, most people have thought the opposite.

He said the MP wasn't great but I wonder if he had trouble finding games since the game is not out in mass numbers yet?

I will take a 7 over what I read from people here as well. You would think the game is a 3-5 with some of these reviews. I am hoping IGN trolls the haters and give it an 8. They somehow gave AVP 2010 a 7.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: MrBrokenTusks. on Feb 10, 2013, 10:15:39 PM
The main concern I have is not really over quality but of the theme/context the game has,

are the combat situations more akin to the first dead space where you can go a whole level with a couple of encounters and have it be tense as f**k or more like dead space 2/3 where the only real difference is more enemies and go for an action game


I know the media suggests the latter but it is hard to make trailers out of the situation where it's one alien


I honestly would prefer a worse quality tense experience rather than a well executed action experience, for a load of reasons mainly because theres loads of solid action games and because then the only pull is for the license when other games are better at the same gameplay I was just wondering how the balance was, as most people are commenting on the quality rather than the whether than what the preference was gameplay wise was and what we got.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Elicas on Feb 10, 2013, 10:18:42 PM
Quote from: MrBrokenTusks. on Feb 10, 2013, 10:15:39 PM
The main concern I have is not really over quality but of the theme/context the game has,

are the combat situations more akin to the first dead space where you can go a whole level with a couple of encounters and have it be tense as f**k or more like dead space 2/3 where the only real difference is more enemies and go for an action game


I know the media suggests the latter but it is hard to make trailers out of the situation where it's one alien


I honestly would prefer a worse quality tense experience rather than a well executed action experience, for a load of reasons mainly because theres loads of solid action games and because then the only pull is for the license when other games are better at the same gameplay I was just wondering how the balance was, as most people are commenting on the quality rather than the whether than what the preference was gameplay wise was and what we got.

It's a straight up action shooter. Page three of this thread I have a post dissecting someones playthrough of the campaign, over 250 kills in the first 5 missions. They throw Aliens at you like cheap Russian cannon fodder during the WW2 COD games.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: darthmaul1 on Feb 10, 2013, 10:52:22 PM
Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 10, 2013, 03:03:41 PM
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Feb 10, 2013, 11:25:27 AM
Kalawaki, I know you're a faith-driven apologist and all, but do try to understand what people are saying. The motion tracker adds nothing to the experience because the gameplay seldom requires it. Like everything else, it's a novelty item. Try playing one of the AvP games where it's part of the HUD, and you'll see that it's of more persistent use (also having to do with the Aliens trying to stalk instead of rush).
Pausing to look at the motion tracker is no different now then it was when it was smaller and at the bottom of your screen. I played both AvP, AvP2, and AvP2010. I never looked at my tracker while shooting something, and always watched it when not shooting something.

The fact is, having it a part of your HUD would be useful maybe on 2 occasions tops, because you wouldn't need to use it anyway. The problem isn't the Tracker mechanic, it's the abundancy of enemies. And without an abundance of enemies the game might feel dull and stagnated. In this game you would be too busy aiming and shooting regardless of the position of the tracker. By the logic you are giving me having a Tracker at all seems useless in this game.


Quote

Agreed u barley use the tracker in SP but in MP is where u will actually use it more. And if a marine has to pull it out to find out where u r, it will make is so much better.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: DB on Feb 10, 2013, 11:07:59 PM
Reception on other less... invested websites seems to be much, much worse than here. Bad, but not unforeseen.

I can safely say that I'm not surprised. All you need to do is watch all the footage they released. It makes you think they missed the whole point of Aliens and watched Starship Troopers instead. Ineffectual acid blood, only one xeno type actually behaves like an Alien, rare usage of ceilings and walls... yikes. Finding a way to make the Aliens generic space zombies must have been rather difficult to do on accident. They downplayed the very things that made our Aliens unique to shoot at and would have helped the game stand out.

Even the Kick Ass trailer seemed completely oblivious to the film's theme; tough macho spess mahrenes getting raped by random space gecko/termites. Instead, we play marines Master Chief would be jealous of.

The unfortunate implications of such boring adversaries is that it opens the door for the worst sin in any shooter - making the act of shooting things boring.

Dead Space is another action title that features (mostly) dumb zombies, but it makes the act of shooting them interesting and how you shoot them drastically changes how the enemies interact with the player. Some of the guns behave completely differently and you have jedi gloves and stuff to have fun with, versus this title's large armory of guns that spit bullets slightly differently. These Aliens are just moving targets, barring the Lurkers during the times where they don't bug out. In fact, I would argue the game would be much more fun to play if every Xeno type behaved like the Lurker, even if they had different abilities.

Rebellion's own poor Xenos, whom could be kited eternally with liberal application of the sprint button, would try and dodge your shots. They would occasionally jump up on a wall or a ceiling, promptly getting lost with crap pathing, but at least they tried. There was more to melee than a single godlike elbow. Their acid could kill you. What happened here?

Compare and contrast the most common enemy, the Cameralien, with Halo's useless Grunt. Grunts can charge up their pistols to remove the hero's armor instantly. They can lob grenades that kill the hero instantly. Cameraliens can... absorb your ammo?

Killing the poor things in and of itself lacks... oomph. They fall over like cardboard, when they explode, all that happens is that their model vanishes in the blink of an eye and is replaced with a small sprite of green goo, not a single F given. Just like in AvP2. How long ago was that? Acid? What's that? They don't crawl towards you when you blow off their legs. They don't come at you with one arm. The WY guys are more dangerous and take more bullets to down (how come they don't explode into red sprites when shot by the same guns?). What the hell doesn't even begin to cover it.

As I read in another website:

"Right, right. Somebody said "colonial marines" Gearbox thought they said "Space Marines" and signed up!"

The campaign itself is of questionable design, though it adheres to the modern day "cinematic experience" nonsense. Cutscenes and loading and waiting for your stupid and immortal NPCs to open the door for you... All to move forward in a straight line for a few meters and whack a few moles before another long cutscene/dialogue begins and my guys have to open another door for me. Not only does this minimize player interaction but it means that the story has to hold up since it's such a focus. It... it doesn't. They don't even really address all the Super Aliens that are running around.

I'm also rather amazed the game has some long stretches where all you do is shoot guys with baseball caps that for some reason drop marine helmets (?). Does not bode well for a game with Aliens in the title. I also like how your marine can duct tape 5 different marine helmets together and wear them as full armor, that's ingenuity!

The multiplayer and customization basically seem like the game's one shot to do something right, though I'm not very convinced. Much of the cool stuff about playing an Alien has been removed. You no longer are the Alien. You remote control one whose arse blocks your view. You are constantly reminded of the sub par animations for the Xenos. If there's one thing I cannot critique about Rebellion's effort is that at least the Xenos animated well. The crawling animation is light years better than hopping like a bunny in menace and creepy factor. Insects and lizards crawl. They are disgusting and creepy. Ponies and bunnies? They are cute. I love them. Do you want me to cuddle the Xenos, Gearbox? Should I love them and feed them biscuits?

Although a rather personal observation of mine, I find that the multi doesn't really look very enticing to me. I prefer a title that makes me feel like I'm improving at the game whenever I play it again. I can aim better, I can move and dodge better, etc. But in this game, everything's so slow, the Aliens die so easily, and you don't even have to learn how to navigate as an Alien anymore so it's that there's just no room to really improve anything.

"Remember to climb on the ceiling and camp corners". Alien mastery.

"Elbow smash, stick with the herd and instagib slow xenos with your guns". Marine mastery.

Just doesn't call out to me, is all. It can't really compare to all the cool stuff you can pull off as a skulk in NS, for example. That kept me going back. Not grinding to remove artificial gameplay limitations. What difference does it make to me if I instagib a Xeno with a grenade or with a shotgun?

All that said, eating people from behind always gives some jollies, so if the multi looks to be up your alley, I would suggest waiting for a Steam sale and picking up the game for 15 Ameribucks when you can. Perhaps with time people will find there's some good to it.

The game does have its solid points: the music is really good and the Cowadooty perks look like they could keep you trying different builds. There is, indeed, ONE nice segment in the game that's well made. You know which one it is.
Spoiler
Boilers in sewers. Though the solution to the problem is far too simple and being just told what to do removes most of the tension.
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But... that's about it.

To be quite frank, this game is best watched on the tube, to curb your curiosity, and then left forgotten.

If you ask me, and this is completely unscientific and little more than fan wank, the biggest problem with the game is that it's just marine pr0n. "Guys, look at these guns! They're from Aliens!" Ok? So... how does that make the game good? "THE MARINES WERE AWESOME THOSE ONE LINERS!!" Really, why do I care about Hick's shotgun? Do I seriously care if I ever see Hudson again? I want to have fun shooting some Aliens. Make the Aliens fun to shoot. Get these WY guys out of here, I want to shoot Xenos, not shoot the same guys I shoot in every other game. I don't care about all the guns in the technical manual, bro, I just want to shoot the Aliens from the movie, with the guns from the movie and for it to keep me engaged and entertained for awhile. Focus on the interactions between the marines and the Aliens. What would make shooting the Aliens more fun than shooting the same zombies we've shot in a billion other games? What makes them unique? How does their presence affect the shooting mechanics? Embrace these elements, don't just make them zerglings. A shooter based on Aliens is a game where you shoot Aliens. Think about that statement. It's an incredibly obvious thing to say, isn't it? So why does it feel like shooting the Aliens, not just aliens, the Aliens, took a back seat? Was Aliens really about cool marines with ridiculous sounding guns making one liners? Is a generic termite shooter really authentic to the movie?

The game is really about the evils of heresy space corporations versus the heroic noble badass space marines that are so manly even the women run balls to the wind. Also there are some Aliens running around and stuff while the people shoot each other.

If you want multiplayer just play Natural Selection. Still the best Aliens game ever. Call of Aliens: In Space! is just not that good.

Edit: Oh my. I think I'll take back what what I said about multiplayer. No dedicated servers coupled with no effective host migration is a death sentence. The same mistakes AvP3 made. You don't even get XP when the host dcs it seems. So it's like AvP only worse, since XP actually matters in this game.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Kalawaki on Feb 11, 2013, 12:11:50 AM
Quote from: DB on Feb 10, 2013, 11:07:59 PM
If you want multiplayer just play Natural Selection. Still the best Aliens game ever. Call of Aliens: In Space! is just not that good.
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Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Jonesy23 on Feb 11, 2013, 02:53:44 AM
For being such a popular topic of discussion on this forum, it seems like no one is going to even give A:CM a chance even. Were we all so embittered by AVP 2010 that we can't give anyone another chance? And it does always seem that no matter how much people complain about a game they continue to buy it and play it for a long time. I have a friend who's like this with COD and it is so strange to me. Overall, the point I want to make is I think we should at least give the game our own personal walkthrough before we say yay or nay.

What do you guys think?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Vezner on Feb 11, 2013, 03:20:43 AM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 10, 2013, 10:13:05 PM
Quote from: PFC Hudson on Feb 10, 2013, 10:01:17 PM
I will also take that 7 over all the negativity I've been reading. I also find it interesting that the reviewer liked the campaign over the multi-player, most people have thought the opposite.

He said the MP wasn't great but I wonder if he had trouble finding games since the game is not out in mass numbers yet?

I will take a 7 over what I read from people here as well. You would think the game is a 3-5 with some of these reviews. I am hoping IGN trolls the haters and give it an 8. They somehow gave AVP 2010 a 7.

Agreed. In the end, if it gets a 7 or above from IGN, I'll be very happy. I think that most of the hate that the game is getting right now is from people who had their expectations WAY too high. I'm not saying that the game doesn't have problems but some people are calling it the worst game ever made. I find that VERY hard to believe.

Oh, and I should probably mention that I'm not one of those people that hated AVP2010 with a passion. I enjoyed the marine campaign (though I wished it had coop...which I now get!), found the Alien campaign to be tolerable, and felt like the Pred campaign was ok. MP was horrendous at first on the PC because it was just beta but once they finished it, I found it be enjoyable enough but unfortunately the MP community had mostly died by then.

One way or another, I'm still excited to play ACM despite the negativity of some. Again, if it's a 7 or above, I'll find the experience to be well worth my $60.

Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: RubberChickenMan on Feb 11, 2013, 04:14:39 AM
Im on chapter 7. So far Im enjoying the game. The shooting mechanic feels satisfying. The graphics for consoles isnt bad at all. Aliens attack you now instead of running in circles like avp2010. Different enemy types makes the game feel fresh instead of shootin the same target over and over again. Lots and lots of easter eggs for Aliens fans. Music is freaking awesome. Lurkers are by far the best enemies. Its just fun trying to figure out where theyre gonna come from. Story isnt half as bad as people say it is. Uprgading your weapons is awesome. The atmosphere is among the best Ive seen in this generation of consoles.

The negatives.

Glitches: I shot an Alien in chapter 4 and he sky rocketed to lv-223

Voice acting: some of them are just meh (bishop is great though)

Facehuggers arent that threatening all you have to do is constantly press square to push them off your face.

8.5/10 for me
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 11, 2013, 05:44:37 AM
Quote from: Jonesy23 on Feb 11, 2013, 05:39:07 AM
I've been reading some reviews where they say the MP is a weaker element because of server problems. They don't seem to get that they weren't supposed to be playing right now, so the server is probably not up to snuff at the moment. MP elements to a game don't seem like they're reviewed properly because the critics get the games early and the MP stuff isn't supposed to be up and at em until everyone has a chance to play.

What do you guys think?

I would think/hope the MP will be 100% when the game is actually released. But I am not a tech person so I can't really comment.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Crazy Rich on Feb 11, 2013, 05:57:00 AM
Quote from: Jonesy23 on Feb 11, 2013, 05:39:07 AM
I've been reading some reviews where they say the MP is a weaker element because of server problems. They don't seem to get that they weren't supposed to be playing right now

I totally forgot that actually, thanks for bringing that last part up. It's not technically out till Tuesday, it was released early by some. I'm no server tech but what you say seems to make sense.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Jonesy23 on Feb 11, 2013, 06:10:00 AM
What they're playing on is most likely a beta server, or a server that's not fully open yet. That's the disadvantage of breaking the street date. That and it's probably hard to find a whole lot of people to play with right now.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WinterActual on Feb 11, 2013, 06:19:42 AM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 10, 2013, 09:33:36 PM
Two reviews that gave the game a 7 each

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGGP4NtRVbo#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGGP4NtRVbo#ws)


Holy shit man.. this guy spoiled the whole game with his vid  >:(

Quote from: DB on Feb 10, 2013, 11:07:59 PM
If you want multiplayer just play Natural Selection. Still the best Aliens game ever. Call of Aliens: In Space! is just not that good.

I know man, but the NS2 is so badly optimized that I rarely go above 40fps. I run every other game like FC3, BF3, Crysis, Metro 2033 in DX10, AvP '10 in DX11 etc. maxed out but I can't run NS2 in steady fps no matter on what settings I try. I really want to play it more but I simply can't do it right now. I cant wait to see some optimization and I mean heavy optimization by the devs.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 11, 2013, 07:06:54 AM
Quote from: WinterActual on Feb 11, 2013, 06:19:42 AM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 10, 2013, 09:33:36 PM
Two reviews that gave the game a 7 each

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGGP4NtRVbo#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGGP4NtRVbo#ws)


Holy shit man.. this guy spoiled the whole game with his vid  >:(

Quote from: DB on Feb 10, 2013, 11:07:59 PM
If you want multiplayer just play Natural Selection. Still the best Aliens game ever. Call of Aliens: In Space! is just not that good.

I know man, but the NS2 is so badly optimized that I rarely go above 40fps. I run every other game like FC3, BF3, Crysis, Metro 2033 in DX10, AvP '10 in DX11 etc. maxed out but I can't run NS2 in steady fps no matter on what settings I try. I really want to play it more but I simply can't do it right now. I cant wait to see some optimization and I mean heavy optimization by the devs.

My bad. There were a few spoilers but it wasn't stuff I was not expecting already from trailers and what not. There was something with the boiler alien that he f**king ruined though. Oh well.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Jonesy23 on Feb 11, 2013, 07:10:37 AM
Was that a boiler? I've seen a video review where he says that there's another type of xeno that walks around the areas but the footage he showed wasn't a boiler. Interesting....
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: teras on Feb 11, 2013, 08:52:26 AM
Quote from: Jonesy23 on Feb 11, 2013, 05:39:07 AM
I've been reading some reviews where they say the MP is a weaker element because of server problems. They don't seem to get that they weren't supposed to be playing right now, so the server is probably not up to snuff at the moment. MP elements to a game don't seem like they're reviewed properly because the critics get the games early and the MP stuff isn't supposed to be up and at em until everyone has a chance to play.

What do you guys think?

Actually no.
Since there are no dedicated servers to host the MP matches this logic doesn't apply.
The matches are hosted by the peers as with almost every other game on the consoles. I haven't heard anything about the PC version having dedicated servers.
I played on the PS3 a couple of matches and didn't run into problems, apart from the matchmaking taking a long time and some collision detection issues.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: LogansFolly on Feb 11, 2013, 09:10:12 AM
Quote from: Vezner on Feb 11, 2013, 03:20:43 AM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 10, 2013, 10:13:05 PM
Quote from: PFC Hudson on Feb 10, 2013, 10:01:17 PM
I will also take that 7 over all the negativity I've been reading. I also find it interesting that the reviewer liked the campaign over the multi-player, most people have thought the opposite.

He said the MP wasn't great but I wonder if he had trouble finding games since the game is not out in mass numbers yet?

I will take a 7 over what I read from people here as well. You would think the game is a 3-5 with some of these reviews. I am hoping IGN trolls the haters and give it an 8. They somehow gave AVP 2010 a 7.

Agreed. In the end, if it gets a 7 or above from IGN, I'll be very happy. I think that most of the hate that the game is getting right now is from people who had their expectations WAY too high. I'm not saying that the game doesn't have problems but some people are calling it the worst game ever made. I find that VERY hard to believe.

Oh, and I should probably mention that I'm not one of those people that hated AVP2010 with a passion. I enjoyed the marine campaign (though I wished it had coop...which I now get!), found the Alien campaign to be tolerable, and felt like the Pred campaign was ok. MP was horrendous at first on the PC because it was just beta but once they finished it, I found it be enjoyable enough but unfortunately the MP community had mostly died by then.

One way or another, I'm still excited to play ACM despite the negativity of some. Again, if it's a 7 or above, I'll find the experience to be well worth my $60.

Ign uk gave avp2010 8.5. Must have been because rebelion are british? It won't beat that... i think ign will give it a 6 which is 'okay' by there system i just read this giving it a 7.9 http://www.itnewsafrica.com/2013/02/review-aliens-colonial-marines/ (http://www.itnewsafrica.com/2013/02/review-aliens-colonial-marines/) dispite canning it for the whole review!?! Must have been an aliens fan!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: teras on Feb 11, 2013, 10:06:06 AM
Here's a youtube parody!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dPF8jpItCs#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dPF8jpItCs#ws)

It's really funny..and sad at the same time!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WinterActual on Feb 11, 2013, 10:40:32 AM
Its sad because its true.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Elicas on Feb 11, 2013, 10:54:53 AM
Hysterical, for all the wrong reasons!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: MR EL1M1NATOR on Feb 11, 2013, 11:55:19 AM
"My god"
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi49.tinypic.com%2Fvkv0p.jpg&hash=edbef8da4b883b907dea68a4817ebb87ce7b5af1)

(They sure liked using that phrase)
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: pixelbaron on Feb 11, 2013, 12:55:28 PM
"My god!"

"Not ur god wink wink"
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: RubberChickenMan on Feb 11, 2013, 01:45:50 PM
Its a fun game. And having fun is why started gaming. Loving all the easter eggs.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Elicas on Feb 11, 2013, 03:22:27 PM
Updated my post on page 3 up to video part 19, and wow, the cons list is getting massive.

Edit: Any news on an upcoming AVP:G official review?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: QUAGMIRE83 on Feb 11, 2013, 04:57:09 PM
I just got mine today and all I can say is, BEST GAME EVER MADE!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WinterActual on Feb 11, 2013, 05:01:17 PM
Quote from: QUAGMIRE83 on Feb 11, 2013, 04:57:09 PM
I just got mine today and all I can say is, BEST GAME EVER MADE!
How so?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Elicas on Feb 11, 2013, 05:05:10 PM
Quote from: QUAGMIRE83 on Feb 11, 2013, 04:57:09 PM
I just got mine today and all I can say is, BEST GAME EVER MADE!

You obviously only own this one game.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Kimo on Feb 11, 2013, 05:16:30 PM
Im from the UK and i manage to get this game a day early from the small computer shop for my Xbox 360. I only played like the first few levels and here is what i think, my option will no doubt change as i get more in to the game. BTW the was already a 3mb update when i installed ACM.

The Graphics are like Doom3/Quake4/Fear1&2 era... I dont judge any game for it's graphics, its all about atmosphere and playability for me. So far the atmosphere in the game has been ok but nothing out of this world... i would say it's defo better then AVP2010 atmosphere, you do sort of feel like you are in the Aliens Universe, but i aint had any shock or jump moments yet.

My biggest problem with the graphics is sometimes its hard to make out whats going on, when your in a room with loads of computers, and wall lights, and alien goo why you are getting attacked from aliens/humans can be a little sensory overload. I would say this is due to the graphics looking a little generic making everything look a liitle bland. But saying that, i have been in some rooms and corridors were the graphics look good. I am looking forward to seeing the other levels like Hadleys Hope and Derelict to see how they look.

The AI is like Random, sometimes the Aliens act how the real Cameron's Aliens should act. But then you may see one or two act all retarded and buggy (The same go's for the human AI) The Ragdoll on both human and the aliens can be buggy sometimes... Like after you have killed a Xeno sometimes the ragdoll effect can have them spaz out on the floor like limbs shaking and moving unrealistically. Like i shot one Alien that was wall climbing, and its dead body was still hanging from the wall from the tip of its tail, it looked fake and buggy as hell. Anyhow i have to say i do like how the Aliens move and look in this game when the AI gets it right. The Aliens can attack you from differnt directions and also little waves of alien attacks happen that i like.

So fair the game has been average/fun for me, but i have not been blown away by anything yet. I still have a good few levels to go so hopefully my option may or may not change for the better. O


Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Cal427eb on Feb 11, 2013, 05:26:52 PM
Quote from: QUAGMIRE83 on Feb 11, 2013, 04:57:09 PM
I just got mine today and all I can say is, BEST GAME EVER MADE!
you're.... You're being sarcastic right?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: JokersWarPig on Feb 11, 2013, 05:34:38 PM
Quote from: Kimo on Feb 11, 2013, 05:16:30 PM


The Graphics are like Doom3/Quake4/Fear1&2 era...



Puts my graphic worries to rest. Those may not be Frostbite 2 graphics but they're still better then other big franchised games.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Cal427eb on Feb 11, 2013, 05:58:41 PM
Quote from: JokersWarPig on Feb 11, 2013, 05:34:38 PM
Quote from: Kimo on Feb 11, 2013, 05:16:30 PM


The Graphics are like Doom3/Quake4/Fear1&2 era...



Puts my graphic worries to rest. Those may not be Frostbite 2 graphics but they're still better then other big franchised games.
Which games exactly?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: JokersWarPig on Feb 11, 2013, 06:02:31 PM
Quote from: Cal427eb on Feb 11, 2013, 05:58:41 PM
Quote from: JokersWarPig on Feb 11, 2013, 05:34:38 PM
Quote from: Kimo on Feb 11, 2013, 05:16:30 PM


The Graphics are like Doom3/Quake4/Fear1&2 era...



Puts my graphic worries to rest. Those may not be Frostbite 2 graphics but they're still better then other big franchised games.
Which games exactly?

Call of Duty. F.e.a.r 2 had way better player models imo
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Cal427eb on Feb 11, 2013, 06:04:34 PM
Oh I thought you were saying that A:CM had better graphics than most modern franchises out right now.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Le Celticant on Feb 11, 2013, 06:05:59 PM
F.E.A.R 2 had decent graphics but where it was very good was all the FX.
Explosion, Particles, distortions were all great.
The Grenade from the pulse rifle in A:CM reminds me a lot the one in AVP2.
AVP2010 performed better on FX.

I don't think textures are an issue, when I'm speaking about graphics what I like to see are the lightning, the FX and the world design. Unfortunately A:CM seems to have none of this and it is twice sad when you know that it took a lot of elements from ALIENS.
Every corridor seems pretty generic, room that are not from the film feels like random design that all average / bad FPS has.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: teras on Feb 11, 2013, 06:06:15 PM
Quote from: JokersWarPig on Feb 11, 2013, 05:34:38 PM
Quote from: Kimo on Feb 11, 2013, 05:16:30 PM


The Graphics are like Doom3/Quake4/Fear1&2 era...



Puts my graphic worries to rest. Those may not be Frostbite 2 graphics but they're still better then other big franchised games.

Think again. I thought the same too but just now I got into the Derelict and OMG the graphics are even worse.
I can't believe they had the balls to release this as it is.
Didn't anybody in the GBX studio ever raised his hand and said "guys we can't release that looking like that"!
For God's sake it really looks as if the whole game was an internal side project made just for fun.
Damn, I thought it couldn't get any worse!


...and FEAR 2 had much better graphics than this (console).
This game literally has no effects. The fire is 2D, the explosions are taken straight from Duke NukeM 3D (not Forever).
The enemies have no hitboxes other than the head and the torso and when they die, sometimes they just disappear and reappear as if their textures are instantly replaced from living to dead.
You can't have more last gen than this.
Damn, I'm mad now!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Gren_86 on Feb 11, 2013, 06:28:37 PM
I think that we wouldn't be so pissed at GBX if they were a bit more modest in their press statements. Let the f**king fans decide on their own terms if it's cannon material or not. Doesn't matter if its just another marketing gig or well intentional fanboysm, it's not rational thinking in my opinion.   
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: teras on Feb 11, 2013, 06:34:37 PM
Oh and the gunfights with the mercs will break your balls.
They redefine the phrase "cheap death"!

A part of me is really hoping that tomorrow Pitchford will make a press conference and say "YOU'VE BEEN PUNKED. We gave you some pre-alpha concept copies to have a few laughs. Here's the real game!"
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Samus007 on Feb 11, 2013, 06:39:41 PM
Quote from: teras on Feb 11, 2013, 06:06:15 PM
Quote from: JokersWarPig on Feb 11, 2013, 05:34:38 PM
Quote from: Kimo on Feb 11, 2013, 05:16:30 PM


The Graphics are like Doom3/Quake4/Fear1&2 era...



Puts my graphic worries to rest. Those may not be Frostbite 2 graphics but they're still better then other big franchised games.


Think again. I thought the same too but just now I got into the Derelict and OMG the graphics are even worse.
I can't believe they had the balls to release this as it is.
Didn't anybody in the GBX studio ever raised his hand and said "guys we can't release that looking like that"!
For God's sake it really looks as if the whole game was an internal side project made just for fun.
Damn, I thought it couldn't get any worse!


...and FEAR 2 had much better graphics than this (console).
This game literally has no effects. The fire is 2D, the explosions are taken straight from Duke NukeM 3D (not Forever).
The enemies have no hitboxes other than the head and the torso and when they die, sometimes they just disappear and reappear as if their textures are instantly replaced from living to dead.
You can't have more last gen than this.
Damn, I'm mad now!

:-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: souNdwAve89 on Feb 11, 2013, 06:43:21 PM
I finished the game, thanks to a friend who got an early copy. Here is my short non-spoiler review.

Gameplay

The gameplay is standard just like any other fps game The difference of course is the setting, which takes place in the Alien universe that many have come to love and adore. The shoot mechanics is decent and I compare it to the Call of Duty games, which means that the recoil is almost non-existent. It it awesome to hear the sound effects of the pulse rifle, which is the same as Aliens. The shotguns are useless and enemies soak up at least 3 to 4 shells. Don't get me wrong, they come in handy in a tight spot, but I always find myself going back to the pulse rifle. You do fight humans in this game, who are the Weyland-Yutani's private military company, or PMC. The human AI is not the greatest and they act like bots sometimes. There was an instance where I ran past the enemy while he was shouting "intruders! Hit the alarm" and proceed to just walk down the aisle. The Xenomorph AI is good and they do pose a threat because of how fast they travel. Gearbox did a good job programming the Xenomorphs to use the darkness and shadows.

Story

The story is canon and a true sequel to Aliens. They worked closely with 20th Century Fox and even talked to Ridley Scott (dunno why it wasn't James Cameron, but maybe he was busy...). To keep it short, the story revolves around another Colonial Marines detachment that was sent to investigate the distress signal (sent out in Aliens) 14 weeks after the events of Aliens. The game offers a cool level of fan service such as exploring the whole ship (Sulaco) since we only saw bits and pieces of it in the movie. You do get to wander around in Hadley's Hope and other set pieces in the movie. What I found to be really cool is that they got back actors to reprise their roles in the game such as Michael Biehn (Corporal Hicks), Lance Henriksen (android Bishop), etc. I know that a lot of fans are pissed that the game makes the Xenomorphs weak. You have to understand that it's a GAME. Gearbox tried their best to make the game as authentic as the movie as possible. For example, you do lose life overtime due to the Xenomorph's acid when you kill it and get too close. YES, the guns do take down the Xenomorphs faster than the movies. If they made the game authentic, then the game would be difficult for the avenge gamer.

Visuals

The game was almost in development hell that caused delays and pushbacks. The game was originally suppose to come out on the PS2, but it was scrapped and pushed to be released on next generation consoles. The visuals are quite... poor. I played on the Xbox 360 and there were instances of screen tearing and fps drops. There was a moment in the game where there is a light in a dark room and it was pixelated. The Xenomorph animation and look is really good and even the Marines movements. If the game didn't bump into many problems it did and was released like they wanted, it could have passed for its time. I am not a big graphics whore, but there are parts of the game that just bugged me.

Conclusion

Overall, if you are a big fan of the series you will enjoy the game for what it is. If you are looking for a fps game to play, then skip it until the price lowers. The game is not worth the full retail price of $60 in my opinion. To be fair, it worth around the $30 range. I have not tried the multiplayer, but if that is your thing, then go for it. I like Gearbox, but they are hit or miss with their games. I really wish they made another Brothers in Arms game =/
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WinterActual on Feb 11, 2013, 06:45:39 PM
Quote from: Le Celticant on Feb 11, 2013, 06:05:59 PM

AVP2010 performed better on FX.
AvP '10 is made with DX10 and high res in mind after all. Its still a "test your dx10/11 gpu" kind of game.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Gren_86 on Feb 11, 2013, 06:47:36 PM
Quote from: teras on Feb 11, 2013, 06:34:37 PM
Oh and the gunfights with the mercs will break your balls.
They redefine the phrase "cheap death"!

A part of me is really hoping that tomorrow Pitchford will make a press conference and say "YOU'VE BEEN PUNKED. We gave you some pre-alpha concept copies to have a few laughs. Here's the real game!"
That would be so cool! The ultimate tease in video game history.
It's brutal when reality kicks in and shits on your dreams.
Ah well...
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Jonesy23 on Feb 11, 2013, 07:03:08 PM
It seems like the average so far from the early reviews that were eventually pulled is about a 6-7 out of 10. I'd probably say no lower than a 7.0 for the most part from people like IGN.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: RagingDragon on Feb 11, 2013, 07:22:44 PM
Sad to see that almost every single issue people pointed out during development is *gasp* right there in the game!

There's an army of people on here who knew that the initial lack of focus on the Aliens themselves was going to kill this game, I'm just really glad to see some reviewers pointing that out. It seems that if GBX had actually concentrated on making a more creative or original experience, which ironically falls in line with making the Aliens more accurate to their film counterparts, a lot of these bugs we've seen mentioned (no pun intended) could be tolerated better.

You can't make a proper Aliens game without understanding the source material and having the creativity and courage to actually apply it.

Would've taken geniune balls to make the real Colonial Marines experience, balls that, for Gearbox, have sadly never dropped since their first viewing of Aliens back in '86.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Elicas on Feb 11, 2013, 07:24:30 PM
Quote from: Jonesy23 on Feb 11, 2013, 07:03:08 PM
It seems like the average so far from the early reviews that were eventually pulled is about a 6-7 out of 10. I'd probably say no lower than a 7.0 for the most part from people like IGN.

By my maths, it works out as a 5.7 out of 10 average.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Rolle on Feb 11, 2013, 07:40:56 PM
Hello everybody. Just registered for these forums. Seems that most of the people in here are true fans to the AvP universe, or what ever you call it. I for myself have waited this game for long time, talking like..since the day when it was supposed to come for PS2. I´m more of an alien fan than predator fan. I do like them both but there is something that I like in the alien more.

Yes I have played many alien games and most likely all the AvP games. So lets start. I recently installed AvP 2000 (on steam 3$ the original doesn´t work on todays windows PCs.) Also I have played the AvP 2 and its addon Primal Hunt. Oh let´s not forget PS2 Extinction. Also I have just recently watched all the 4 Alien movies on Bluray with the extras on.

Let´s see..AvP 2000 has the marine setting right..or at least I´m afraid to let the aliens close to me, because of the acid and how fast they can kill me in melee. Loved the skirmish mode in this game. Also the aliens fall pretty easy but my god they are quick in this game.

AvP2 I remember the time when I played this game online. My god the best game EVER! When online that is. The SP story was kinda meh. Just like the first AvP. The aliens still felt a threat when they came in swarms. They toned their speed quite a bit from AvP. Challenging game when played on harder difficulty. Thou it did not give me that "oh my god so many I´m going to die" feeling at least on normal. On the other hand, when I played it online. Chose Marines and it was humans vs aliens (no predator) it was a goddamn slaughter house! In the MP it truly felt like an aliens movie. The aliens coming from multiple directions, needed to coordinate what we were doing. I remember that sometimes when we as humans weren´t playing as a group..well it wasn´t pretty. When we did play as a group we had a chance, a good one too. Miss those times..

And we get to the AvP(3). It had some good some bad. On consoles the MP had a hiccups because no dedicated servers. The patches came too late, few players and so on. But when I did get to play I did enjoy it. Not as much as AvP2 but yeah. It was fun. Campaings were ok but still i do find it stupid that I could pistol whip alien to death as human.  ::) Now that was stupid. The A.I was little better when compared to the originals. Atleast the aliens tried to use the ceilings and walls in the singleplayer. But when facing the alien and moving backwards, it just followed like a dog, waiting to be putdown.

Mostly the aliens have been coming straight at me in all the AvP games. They don´t try to circle around or nothing, just zerg rush.
So my point being..to what do some people compare this game to? I don´t say that I´m all knowing aliens fan but I do have read the comics too. So aliens are like bees or ants. There are workers, soldiers, queen, defenders etc. So the point with this yabbering is this, aliens don´t have inviduality (mostly) they work for the best for the hive and queen. So yes, they do attack, attack and attack straight forward, relying on their speed, strength and numbers. BUT when they notice that the resistance is too strong they do backup, search for an weak point. That is my main consern with this game, GB promised that the aliens should be more like the aliens in Aliens. They do think at least on some level. But if it just this head on attacking..well I´m little disappointed. But I´m still going to buy the game, mostlikely I will enjoy it, playing the campaing on Coop and then hitting the MP like there´s no tomorrow! Hoping that it would be like the AvP 2 MP experience.

Also I do find it money grapping greedy mans plot to make some DLC that should come with the game. Mostlikely the content is on the disc already. I´m talking about the ummm what was it? Survivor? Damn forgot the name, well it´s humans vs A.I aliens mode.
That was on AvP, AvP2 and AvP(3) no extra cash needed. Also the newest AvP had only two maps for that mode, I hope that there would be at least 6-8 different maps (more I hope) for different playmodes. Like I don´t know..16 maps? With DLC 24 or so. Otherwise the MP will wither away because at least on PC you could make your own maps..if I remember correctly since I don´t have the AvP3 on PC  and been quite a while when I played AvP 2 online.

In the end, I hope that at least me myself will enjoy the game, the MP and SP alike. Also I did give the AvP 3 7/10 in my own opinion so I hope that this one gets at least the same or hopefully, even better number in my books.

Sorry for my english. Keep on the good stuff, I like what I have read on these forums  :)

Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Elicas on Feb 11, 2013, 07:58:45 PM
Welcome to AVP:G. I'm afraid you'll be somewhat disappointed because no, the multiplayer has very little in common with AVP2. My advice would be wait two days while Ikarop gathers up all the reviews, and make an informed decision on purchasing the game.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: N3ONPORCUPINE on Feb 11, 2013, 08:00:52 PM
lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dPF8jpItCs#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dPF8jpItCs#ws)

Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: saintbenzie on Feb 11, 2013, 08:05:42 PM
Quote from: N3ONPORCUPINE on Feb 11, 2013, 08:00:52 PM
lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dPF8jpItCs#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dPF8jpItCs#ws)

This made my day.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Cal427eb on Feb 11, 2013, 08:15:08 PM
Quote from: N3ONPORCUPINE on Feb 11, 2013, 08:00:52 PM
lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dPF8jpItCs#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dPF8jpItCs#ws)
Sums it up pretty nicely.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: chrisr232007 on Feb 11, 2013, 08:22:43 PM
Just cancelled my preorder at gamestop, the guys there tried to change my mind which they said all the reviews were positive and lowest score was a 8......I just looked at them and laugh then said give me my dam money.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Syrath101 on Feb 11, 2013, 08:26:30 PM
Quote from: N3ONPORCUPINE on Feb 11, 2013, 08:00:52 PM
lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dPF8jpItCs#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dPF8jpItCs#ws)

I almost pissed myself.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: saintbenzie on Feb 11, 2013, 08:27:03 PM
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Feb 11, 2013, 08:22:43 PM
Just cancelled my preorder at gamestop, the guys there tried to change my mind which they said all the reviews were positive and lowest score was a 8......I just looked at them and laugh then said give me my dam money.
As someone that works at Gamestop I can say I know how it is from both sides. On one side there's the customer that of course wants their money back for a shitty game and then there's the employee that get's ranked on preorders which is just f**king retarded. They could have been at 0 preorders and one cancel can put them at -1 reserves which you get bitched at about by corporate. The reserve system is really really shitty.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: chrisr232007 on Feb 11, 2013, 08:29:42 PM
Quote from: saintbenzie on Feb 11, 2013, 08:27:03 PM
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Feb 11, 2013, 08:22:43 PM
Just cancelled my preorder at gamestop, the guys there tried to change my mind which they said all the reviews were positive and lowest score was a 8......I just looked at them and laugh then said give me my dam money.
As someone that works at Gamestop I can say I know how it is from both sides. On one side there's the customer that of course wants their money back for a shitty game and then there's the employee that get's ranked on preorders which is just f**king retarded. They could have been at 0 preorders and one cancel can put them at -1 reserves which you get bitched at about by corporate. The reserve system is really really shitty.

That is shitty
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Bjørn Half-hand on Feb 11, 2013, 08:30:29 PM
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Feb 11, 2013, 08:22:43 PM
Just cancelled my preorder at gamestop, the guys there tried to change my mind which they said all the reviews were positive and lowest score was a 8......I just looked at them and laugh then said give me my dam money.

Lying bastards, more like lowest 5 and the highest 7.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: chrisr232007 on Feb 11, 2013, 08:33:33 PM
Quote from: Bjørn Half-hand on Feb 11, 2013, 08:30:29 PM
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Feb 11, 2013, 08:22:43 PM
Just cancelled my preorder at gamestop, the guys there tried to change my mind which they said all the reviews were positive and lowest score was a 8......I just looked at them and laugh then said give me my dam money.

Lying bastards, more like lowest 5 and the highest 7.

What's even more funny one of them try to tell me that Ridley Scott wrote the story  ::)
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Bjørn Half-hand on Feb 11, 2013, 08:34:17 PM
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Feb 11, 2013, 08:33:33 PM
Quote from: Bjørn Half-hand on Feb 11, 2013, 08:30:29 PM
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Feb 11, 2013, 08:22:43 PM
Just cancelled my preorder at gamestop, the guys there tried to change my mind which they said all the reviews were positive and lowest score was a 8......I just looked at them and laugh then said give me my dam money.

Lying bastards, more like lowest 5 and the highest 7.

What's even more funny one of them try to tell me that Ridley Scott wrote the story  ::)

LOL
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: saintbenzie on Feb 11, 2013, 08:35:56 PM
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Feb 11, 2013, 08:33:33 PM
Quote from: Bjørn Half-hand on Feb 11, 2013, 08:30:29 PM
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Feb 11, 2013, 08:22:43 PM
Just cancelled my preorder at gamestop, the guys there tried to change my mind which they said all the reviews were positive and lowest score was a 8......I just looked at them and laugh then said give me my dam money.

Lying bastards, more like lowest 5 and the highest 7.

What's even more funny one of them try to tell me that Ridley Scott wrote the story  ::)

Haha wow that is bad, at least I'm knowledgeable about things. I also wouldn't straight out lie, I tell whether or not a game is worth it or not.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Cal427eb on Feb 11, 2013, 08:36:25 PM
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Feb 11, 2013, 08:33:33 PM
Quote from: Bjørn Half-hand on Feb 11, 2013, 08:30:29 PM
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Feb 11, 2013, 08:22:43 PM
Just cancelled my preorder at gamestop, the guys there tried to change my mind which they said all the reviews were positive and lowest score was a 8......I just looked at them and laugh then said give me my dam money.

Lying bastards, more like lowest 5 and the highest 7.

What's even more funny one of them try to tell me that Ridley Scott wrote the story  ::)
Guess he really needed those pre-orders...
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: chrisr232007 on Feb 11, 2013, 08:38:06 PM
Quote from: Cal427eb on Feb 11, 2013, 08:36:25 PM
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Feb 11, 2013, 08:33:33 PM
Quote from: Bjørn Half-hand on Feb 11, 2013, 08:30:29 PM
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Feb 11, 2013, 08:22:43 PM
Just cancelled my preorder at gamestop, the guys there tried to change my mind which they said all the reviews were positive and lowest score was a 8......I just looked at them and laugh then said give me my dam money.

Lying bastards, more like lowest 5 and the highest 7.

What's even more funny one of them try to tell me that Ridley Scott wrote the story  ::)
Guess he really needed those pre-orders...

Guess so
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Jonesy23 on Feb 11, 2013, 09:32:10 PM


Lying bastards, more like lowest 5 and the highest 7.
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Maybe they were talking about the Game Informer score perhaps? Although, it's a big maybe.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: chrisr232007 on Feb 11, 2013, 09:36:48 PM
Quote from: Jonesy23 on Feb 11, 2013, 09:32:10 PM


Lying bastards, more like lowest 5 and the highest 7.
Maybe they were talking about the Game Informer score perhaps? Although, it's a big maybe.
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Idk but I found it insulting that they sat there lieing to my face on facts about this game with me being a fan of Aliens over 20yrs plus been waithing on this game for many years as well. 
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Jonesy23 on Feb 11, 2013, 09:40:08 PM
I totally get that man. I like the Gamestop in my area is usually pretty honest with their opinions, but I've been hearing about the chain itself having customer service issues.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Gren_86 on Feb 11, 2013, 09:48:28 PM
I have to play devil's advocate when it comes to xeno AI. When you think about it, not only is the creature's design one of a kind but also it's abilities. Imagine how difficult it is to animate and program such a beast. Even in the movies everyone from production talks how challenging it was to make the creature not look like a guy in a rubber suit. I can't think of any other game that offers such a versatile enemy which can crawl on any surface while retaining speed and ferociousness. Hopefully this game will be patched soon, in order for us to have a bug and glitch free experience in both MP and SP alike.             
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Jonesy23 on Feb 11, 2013, 09:54:58 PM
I agree with ya on the patch thing. Most games start with bugs and they're usually resolved after about 2 patches or so, sometimes 1 if it's like COD or something. For the most part I've trusted GB so far mostly thanks to Borderlands 2 being a much better game than the first game or other games they've produced so I guess we'll just see.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: RagingDragon on Feb 11, 2013, 10:00:28 PM
So many games have launch issues. Black Ops 2 was the most recent one for me. Multiplayer was a mess right after release, but a few patches in and it played a lot better. They were quick about it, too, with less than a week before the patch was released iirc.

I hope they fix a lot of these glaring issues that seem like they should've been caught and fixed during development.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Jonesy23 on Feb 11, 2013, 10:12:40 PM
I think the reason they have such a problem with bugs and glitches in modern gaming these days is the same reason a lot of mediocre films are released: the company executive's give them a very specific release date and they have to finish by then. Aliens CM was delayed a lot but It still seems like game companies are always in a rush without bringing the best possible product to the table.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Gren_86 on Feb 11, 2013, 10:28:25 PM
Quote from: Jonesy23 on Feb 11, 2013, 09:54:58 PM
I agree with ya on the patch thing. Most games start with bugs and they're usually resolved after about 2 patches or so, sometimes 1 if it's like COD or something. For the most part I've trusted GB so far mostly thanks to Borderlands 2 being a much better game than the first game or other games they've produced so I guess we'll just see.
That was the case with BF3 when it came out. It was a shit storm of glitches and bugs. I had the feeling of not playing the final product but a alpha version. EA, well knowing released an unfinished game because they were in a race with Activision's COD.
It was a slap in the face of every BF fan out there. 
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: JokersWarPig on Feb 11, 2013, 10:30:51 PM
Quote from: Gren_86 on Feb 11, 2013, 10:28:25 PM
Quote from: Jonesy23 on Feb 11, 2013, 09:54:58 PM
I agree with ya on the patch thing. Most games start with bugs and they're usually resolved after about 2 patches or so, sometimes 1 if it's like COD or something. For the most part I've trusted GB so far mostly thanks to Borderlands 2 being a much better game than the first game or other games they've produced so I guess we'll just see.
That was the case with BF3 when it came out. It was a shit storm of glitches and bugs. I had the feeling of not playing the final product but a alpha version of it. EA, well knowing released an unfinished game because they were in a race with Activision's COD.
It was a slap in the face of every BF fan out there.

But look at how good BF3 turned out to be after the glitches where patched. I'm not saying we should have to put up with incomplete games that need patching, but BF3 is a prime example of a game with its fair share of problems that can be fixed via patching. One of the reasons why I'm not taking the negative reviews of ACM to heart
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 11, 2013, 10:35:18 PM
Quote from: Gren_86 on Feb 11, 2013, 10:28:25 PM
Quote from: Jonesy23 on Feb 11, 2013, 09:54:58 PM
I agree with ya on the patch thing. Most games start with bugs and they're usually resolved after about 2 patches or so, sometimes 1 if it's like COD or something. For the most part I've trusted GB so far mostly thanks to Borderlands 2 being a much better game than the first game or other games they've produced so I guess we'll just see.
That was the case with BF3 when it came out. It was a shit storm of glitches and bugs. I had the feeling of not playing the final product but a alpha version. EA, well knowing released an unfinished game because they were in a race with Activision's COD.
It was a slap in the face of every BF fan out there.

I recall the bugs in BF3 on Xbox when I got it. The glitch that deletes campaign data STILL exists. That's why I have owned the game forever and have yet to beat it. f**king irks the shit out of me.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Gren_86 on Feb 11, 2013, 10:36:09 PM
Quote from: JokersWarPig on Feb 11, 2013, 10:30:51 PM
But look at how good BF3 turned out to be after the glitches where patched. I'm not saying we should have to put up with incomplete games that need patching, but BF3 is a prime example of a game with its fair share of problems that can be fixed via patching. One of the reasons why I'm not taking the negative reviews of ACM to heart
Good point but keep in mind that BF is a huge title among gamers while ACM isn't that mainstream.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: JokersWarPig on Feb 11, 2013, 10:39:35 PM
That campaign glitch in BF3 is the only reason I dont have the achievement for beating it hardcore. Damn game wiped out my progress right before the second to last mission. Haven't touched campaign since.

Quote from: Gren_86 on Feb 11, 2013, 10:36:09 PM
Quote from: JokersWarPig on Feb 11, 2013, 10:30:51 PM
But look at how good BF3 turned out to be after the glitches where patched. I'm not saying we should have to put up with incomplete games that need patching, but BF3 is a prime example of a game with its fair share of problems that can be fixed via patching. One of the reasons why I'm not taking the negative reviews of ACM to heart
Good point but keep in mind that BF is a huge title among gamers while ACM isn't that mainstream.

I guess I didn't take that into account, but at the same time a developer cant just release a product with out fixing atleast most of its major issues, especially if their the whole DLC season
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Elicas on Feb 11, 2013, 10:47:03 PM
Quote from: JokersWarPig on Feb 11, 2013, 10:39:35 PM
I guess I didn't take that into account, but at the same time a developer cant just release a product with out fixing atleast most of its major issues, especially if their the whole DLC season

Of course they can, cut their losses and run. It looks like the majority of reviews may very well slam the game, sales could be poor, and it costs thousands of dollars to patch on PS3 and XBOX. Do one courtesy patch and run for the hills dropping it as a failed investment.




Funnily enough, I replayed the AVP10 campaign to cleanse myself from the horror of watching this games campaign. It's better animated, better told, better graphically and has better gameplay (excepting the melee combo system, that's still f**king retarded) than A:CM and you can pick it up for a fraction of the price nowadays.

The campaigns main issues from AVP10 are still prevalent in A:CM: too many human/synthetic enemies and not having enough/any marines with you (though in A:CM, i think it would be better not having them with you they are so bad) though it doesn't have all of A:CM's additional problems.

Today, I'm glad I own AVP10, and that's not something I ever thought i'd f**king say. Ever.

It's downright depressing.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Jonesy23 on Feb 11, 2013, 11:07:02 PM
I'm with you about AVP 2010. Sure, it had its problems and MP was a mess, but overall I really enjoyed the game a lot. I've been checking out the SP of CM and the story does seem like it's everywhere. You seem to be going from here to there for almost no reason. I still haven't noticed too many of the bugs or glitches people have been talking about except in MP where the hit detection sometimes is off.

Updated Pre-Review:
Story: 6 (weak and almost puts AVP on a pedestal)
Graphics: 7 (slightly outdated, but nothing too distracting)
Gameplay: 8 (gunplay is nice although the AI has random difficulty and MP is a blast)
Overall: 7/10
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Gren_86 on Feb 11, 2013, 11:11:00 PM
Quote from: Elicas on Feb 11, 2013, 10:47:03 PM
It's downright depressing.
It sure is, considering the possibility of having two promising games being abandoned by their fans :'(
That's why it's crucial for the MP segment to make up for all the glitches in the campaign before we get a hot fix for both SP and MP asap!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Elicas on Feb 11, 2013, 11:57:06 PM
Last part of Leeroys walkthrough has his review, skip the first 4 minutes for spoilers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9kQPK8pRrY#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9kQPK8pRrY#ws)

4:10 is his review.

AI - 4.5/10
Gameplay - 7/10

He didn't give values for the other points he touched on. Graphics, Scripting and Story was all described as 'shit' or 'awful' No overall score given for the game, other than 'disappointing' or 'shitty'.

"2010 AVP is a much more refined experience than this one"

He put the games value at $15
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Jonesy23 on Feb 12, 2013, 12:04:13 AM
It's weird he would separate the AI from the gameplay since they're usually in the same category. Also, giving the gameplay a 7 then calling the game overall shitty is strange too. Isn't the main part of the game the ahem...gameplay? I do have my own negatives about the game, but this is a strange little review to me but hey, opinion is an opinion and everyone in the gaming world is worth a listen, for the most part.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: RagingDragon on Feb 12, 2013, 12:25:41 AM
Sadly, my only consolation about the state of Colonial Marines are the pages and pages of utterly hilarious negative reviews and comments. I'm going to be laughing for the next 48 hours, I'm sure. :laugh:

Here's a particularly belly-tickling snippit from the GBX forums:

Quote* Weyland enemies where baseball caps into battle. And shades. This is the first game I have ever played featuring Space Douche Enemies. Well done, Gear Box, well done.

Spoiler
QuoteSpace Douche Enemies.
[close]
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Gren_86 on Feb 12, 2013, 12:26:19 AM
Quote from: Jonesy23 on Feb 12, 2013, 12:04:13 AM
It's weird he would separate the AI from the gameplay since they're usually in the same category. Also, giving the gameplay a 7 then calling the game overall shitty is strange too. Isn't the main part of the game the ahem...gameplay? I do have my own negatives about the game, but this is a strange little review to me but hey, opinion is an opinion and everyone in the gaming world is worth a listen, for the most part.
I'm also confused by his verdict  ???
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Jonesy23 on Feb 12, 2013, 12:59:09 AM
Giving the gameplay a 7/10 then saying the game is shit to me is like the people who say they hate playing Call of Duty because of noobs, but they continue to play every single night.

P.S. 'Space Douche Enemy' is great.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: pixelbaron on Feb 12, 2013, 01:02:49 AM
Sounds like a sycophant over on the Gearbox forums.

"Almost everything about this game is god awful. Pulse rifle sounds great, though. Game of the year 10/10."
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Jonesy23 on Feb 12, 2013, 01:04:07 AM
Lol. It's so true. I hope I don't become that kind of fan one day.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: saintbenzie on Feb 12, 2013, 01:15:19 AM
Haha I love going on Gearbox forums. Whenever someone brings up any flaw or negative comment people all flag it and report it.....It's f**king ridiculous. No wonder Gearbox wasn't able to take constructive criticism with the crazy ass nazi mods.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Slaine on Feb 12, 2013, 01:37:37 AM
Spent a few hours on it today.

It is as bad as I had feared.

I'm really very disappointed with Gearbox, I don't even know where to begin. The game is a mess; an unfinished mess.

The graphics are last-gen- i'm talking Doom 3 for PC, or even the original Xbox. Some of the textures are unacceptable for this gen, for example, the computer monitors and screens simply have a blurred texture on top to make it look like there's something on screen. This texture is so low-res and blurred, think of the monitor screens from Goldeneye on the N64 and you'll get an idea. Horrible. The character models are horrid- expressionless puppets. Animation is crap, could have done with some motion-capture. Lip-synching and cinematics in general are poor. Environments are slightly better rendered than the characters but only from a distance- up close you see how simple everything looks. What annoyed me was a simple thing like water which looks so bad; at one point I was walking through a sewer with a high water level and the water was simply a flat cover, with no water physics. It looked, literally, as if all the characters were standing halfway through solid ground. Horrible. And what kind of age are we in, when you can't shoot out the lights in a game? Gearbox put details in like being able to smash screens, and put dents in walls- but when I tried to shoot out the lights in a room- it wouldn't work. Lights still remain.

Story seems to be non-existent so far (i'm on chapter 3). It's just you and a few crew members re-visiting the locales from Aliens and running away from the Xenos. Doesn't seem any point to anything so far.

Gameplay is very poor. The enemies are just no fun to kill, and the AI is woeful. Hit-points are horrid, on many occasions I was in cover trying to shoot enemies with my laser sight directly on them-  but the shots were going nowhere near them. Same as when I was playing as the Spitter in multiplayer- i was trying to spit on the players through a hole in the wall...and the projectiles kept getting blocked by an invisible walls. So many times that the character models were through each other's, or they were floating on the ground, or some other random crappy glitch.

And the game is full of so many glitches, I just can't believe it.

Xenos randomly appear and do the dumbest things, not helped at all considering the game is so glitchy. And as I said before, the AI is horrid. At so many points did an enemy just stand around not doing anything, or froze, or just simply dissapeared.  Physics in general are crap, a few times I saw a Xeno jump and it shot directly up into the air like Superman in that Man of Steel teaser, and did a spinning cartwheel. A few times my gun simply disappeared from my hands so I had nothing to shoot with! The Xenos simply run at you in the dumbest-looking way possible- and drop like puppets after a few hits. Doesn't matter where you hit them either, they die in the same manner, which is crap. Remember in AVP 2010 when if you sever their legs, they still crawl at you? Doesn't happen here. This is also a wasted opportunity for multiplayer, too. Which is actually awful.

Music doesn't do anything either..the OST is actually pretty bad..just random ques from Aliens (and Alien, which for me doesn't fit in with this movie because not even James Horner used Goldsmith's tunes for the movie). Music doesn't add to the experience. Weapon sound effects sound fine, but the pulse rifle sound gets very repetitive, they should have used more variety from the movie's rather than the same 3 seconds which loops.

Multiplayer is forgettable. Again, riddled with gameplay issues and glitches. Players will randomly freeze, Xenos are difficult to control (they start doing random things, eg they keep changing direction when when you're on walls which does not help at all in the middle of a fight), the balance seems to be all over the place. I had a bit of fun with "Escape" but otherwise it can't even play on the basic level as Left4Dead did. It's just really poor clone. And no facehuggers in multiplayer makes me think they really missed a trick. Also eggs- you'll find a ton of closed Xeno eggs around the single player campaign and multiplayer levels- at first i just destroyed them all thinking they held live facehuggers, as they should..but then I found out there was no point wasting my ammo, because the eggs actually don't do anything. No facehuggers in them. Theyr'e just there as set decoration. What's the freaking point of having them then if they serve no purpose? I had so many ideas of how cool it would be to be a Xeno in multiplayer, but none of them were realised- it just settles down to you running straight up to someone and slashing like an idiot till they die. No strategy. Sucks.

Honestly speaking, I think the marine campaign in AVP 2010 was better. And I actually hated that game- but that felt more finished, and at least the enemies had some intelligence and the Aliens themselves had some degree of difficulty to kill. I remember acid damage being harmful and the carcasses staying on the floor- none of that happens here. AVP2010 now actually deserves more credit, especially from me. It was definitely more fun, and at leas they tried to make something playable.

Verdict:

I wish Gearbox spent more time on gameplay, than trying to recreate the sets full of pointless little details for fans. It's cool seeing the sets of course, but..that's about it. The game is not the ultimate Aliens experience we all wanted, or the sequel. And the amount of time spent on this, and then this is the result..it's just unacceptable. It's what happens when you let fans take over before people capable of making a game.

Boot up AVP1/2 or (if you must) AVP2010 for the best Aliens games. And keep on wishing that we actually do get a proper Aliens game in the future. Because A:CM is simply an extremely underwhelming, and below average FPS full of problems, cashing in on the Aliens franchise again :(

4/10

Sorry for my English it's not my first language.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ikarop on Feb 12, 2013, 02:15:10 AM
Quote from: saintbenzie on Feb 12, 2013, 01:15:19 AM
Haha I love going on Gearbox forums. Whenever someone brings up any flaw or negative comment people all flag it and report it.....It's f**king ridiculous. No wonder Gearbox wasn't able to take constructive criticism with the crazy ass nazi mods.

No need to call them that. Please love or hate the game, not the fellow fans.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Yautja_Warrior on Feb 12, 2013, 02:39:16 AM
Been playing the PC version for just over an hour now, and I'm pretty impressed.

Graphics - While not the best, do the job.
Sound - Weapon's sound powerful and sound just like in the movie  ;D  Xeno's sound good.
Story - Seem's ok but like I said, I've only played about an hour so far.
Gameplay - Solid like most good shooters really, The Motion Tracker is cool and done really well.
Collectors Edition - Power Loader Statue is really cool.

Playing on Hardened difficulty for 1st run, and I have to say all those people saying the Xeno's just stand around or any video's on the net must be playing on easy or normal, unless the PC version has better AI then the console version ? because they move fast, use the walls and ceilings, they do a good amount of damage on hardened. (Been killed pretty fast a few times lol)

Also I died a few times from the acid blood when I shot a Xeno at point blank with the shotgun, so acid does damage you for anyone interested. I know it was the acid that killed me as it goes to a 3rd person view when you die and the marine holds his face and you can see steam coming off him where its burning him  ;D

Any bad points ? Well I'm not fussed on the weapon upgrades, seems like it's there just because Call of Duty has it, but if you don't like it you don't have to use it. Graphics are a bit rough around the edges. Marine AI is a little off but they do shoot and kill Xeno's, it's not like Call of Duty where they don't kill anything and you have to do all the work. Xeno's don't take to much damage to kill but I can live with that as they can kill you fast aswell, at least they can on Hardened on PC version anyway.

So while it may not be perfect or the best game ever, its not a bad game at all really.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: hfeldhaus on Feb 12, 2013, 02:48:02 AM
Quote from: Jonesy23 on Feb 11, 2013, 11:07:02 PM
I'm with you about AVP 2010. Sure, it had its problems and MP was a mess, but overall I really enjoyed the game a lot. I've been checking out the SP of CM and the story does seem like it's everywhere. You seem to be going from here to there for almost no reason. I still haven't noticed too many of the bugs or glitches people have been talking about except in MP where the hit detection sometimes is off.

Updated Pre-Review:
Story: 6 (weak and almost puts AVP on a pedestal)
Graphics: 7 (slightly outdated, but nothing too distracting)
Gameplay: 8 (gunplay is nice although the AI has random difficulty and MP is a blast)
Overall: 7/10

pre-review? first time iv heard that
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Jonesy23 on Feb 12, 2013, 02:54:56 AM
I guess I can coin the phrase then? lol
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: hfeldhaus on Feb 12, 2013, 02:58:08 AM
haha think you can. will be interesting to see if your opinion changes once you have played it for yourself. i think the MP is going to make it or break it for me. it looks like a lot of fun
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Smokeyrelic on Feb 12, 2013, 03:08:08 AM
im gonna ace hug ya
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 12, 2013, 03:10:34 AM
I will be posting my review tonight. I like to think I am not overly bias but not overly harsh either. Stay posted!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Jonesy23 on Feb 12, 2013, 03:12:21 AM
I'll be sure to let you know as soon as I get a hold of it.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ikarop on Feb 12, 2013, 06:32:30 AM
For those interested, some of issues reported earlier don't seem to be present on the officially released PC version.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-2.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F578980607050080574%2F9334FADE78DD0B19BE2F9F80FD246DE5CE78C785%2F&hash=53e4e49f1b994c86959ef9bb448ea54eec046274)
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Valaquen on Feb 12, 2013, 06:36:55 AM
Remember they talked about emulating the 16mm film stock that Cameron used, so we'd get the option to have a grainy, gritty screen just like the movie? Is that an option in the game, or has it slipped?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: RagingDragon on Feb 12, 2013, 06:40:43 AM
Wow, let me prepare a giant middle finger if console players have to deal with most of the crap. :-\ But I guess it's good news as it can and hopefully will be patched quickly...

Why all of this madness if the game was developed for consoles from the beginning?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: pixelbaron on Feb 12, 2013, 06:45:08 AM
I don't think PC users are out of the woods. A lot of people that have started playing the PC version have at least confirmed horrible AI and some really bad texture quality in some areas.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WinterActual on Feb 12, 2013, 06:45:15 AM
Yeah Ikarop, the collision is working fine and thats why I died 2 times so far  :laugh: Every god damn time when I want to use the under barrel gl and O'Neil moves infront of me in the exact time when the grenade is traveling in the barrel so we are dead anyway. Its inevitable. Besides that the game is... its.. its not that bad. Not bad at all. So far at least. I am surprised actually. Or maybe the game is bad but my expectations were soooooo low that I like it now  :o
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Rolle on Feb 12, 2013, 06:49:11 AM
Seems that once again, console players get the "surprise buttsex" when buying this game. Glitches, bugs, all kinds of bad crap. Then hoping for a patch that will be roughly..2Gb or so. Well I personally hope that when the fix comes the game will be as good as on PC. Yes the graphics may not improve but with patching maybe the textures will be more stable.
The reason why I bought this for PS3 is splitscreen with my fiancee and friends on the internet. Also I have 5.1 surround system for playing with PS3. On PC it´s only headphones (thou they are good but it´s for my ears only). So yeah, I want to hear the oomph in the bass when explosions happen LOUD! My neighbour must love me :D
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Giger_Incubator on Feb 12, 2013, 08:00:12 AM
Thought I would share my first console (PS3) impressions.

Over the past few days I've been getting pretty scared that the consoles actually were going to get raped with the version we were getting. While, the PC screenshots look leagues better than what I'm seeing onscreen, I think the art design and the lighting more than give a pleasing environment to play in. I'm really impressed overall. I can tell it's an older engine obviously, but they did a good job making due. While not a graphics whore, it was definitely a concern.

A.I. wise, I haven't run into any of the problems others are listing, besides the occasional Xeno in the background staying still for a moment. The rest, on hardened at least, are quickly in your face, and surprisingly, climbing and jumping onto every surface to try and throw you off. Also, while I have noticed a few run past my partner, he is not nearly as dumb as I was lead to believe. I caught up to him at one point,  just barely behind him,  and he had cleared a room of five or six Aliens by himself.

I think the guns make you actually control your fire, and are satisfying in a way that most FPSs miss the mark on. So far, as an Alien fan and as FPS fan, I feel like the game is so much better than AVP 2010, which I also played for quite a bit. I'm so relieved, and can't wait for the patches I'm sure are coming to make it even more polished.

Hope that puts a few more people at ease somewhat.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Omega1 on Feb 12, 2013, 08:19:38 AM
Yeah I am playing the PC version on "Hardened" mode and I have encountered some of the worst AI I have ever seen in a video game, Xenomorphs just stopping dead in their tracks just waiting to be killed, either that or running all over the place as if they are lost.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: teras on Feb 12, 2013, 08:59:51 AM
Quote from: Valaquen on Feb 12, 2013, 06:36:55 AM
Remember they talked about emulating the 16mm film stock that Cameron used, so we'd get the option to have a grainy, gritty screen just like the movie? Is that an option in the game, or has it slipped?

Not in the PS3 version  :(
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: RagingDragon on Feb 12, 2013, 09:15:57 AM
Okay, so let me just repeat the obvious and say that these graphics are almost comical. :laugh: No, shit, they are comical. I mean, I'm on Xbox and they're sub Indie-game status at times.. But once you start playing the game, you suddenly stop giving a f**k about them lol. At least I did, because the gameplay was just fun.

I'm only playing multiplayer, though.. so I'm sure there are a lot of things I'm not getting with the campaign..

It kind of feels like Aliens, but serious 13-year-old-boy status Aliens. :laugh: It's Durrrr, but damn I still enjoy it. The multiplayer combines addictive, fast, and variable gameplay with lots of customization (at least I think, at this point?) and I think (f**king read: HOOOPE) it will keep people playing.

Sorry not much of a review, I'm just really enjoying the aspect of the game I was most looking forward to. A bit giddy, after all of the doom. Even if the campaign pisses me off, I'm going to have some fun with this MP before she goes' *plays sad harmonica*
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: SAWolf on Feb 12, 2013, 09:25:12 AM
I hope they do a remake of this game with the AVP 2010 engine  :o
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Aceburster on Feb 12, 2013, 10:35:23 AM
First impressions. Played it for about 2 hours. Started it and continuing to play on badass difficulty.

The graphics could be better and ive seen some goofiness like the players arm vanish during the umbilical section as well as xenos glitching through the floor pointing the wrong direction. Dont really care about it though because the mood is good and its got style, as well as being accurate to the movie.The game is waaaay dark so far though. Not such a bad thing from a suspense point of view but its so dark i cant see enemies, cooridoors, my teamates or anything else half the time just blurs and flickers. My solution is to just wait for the melee icon to appear and start mashing buttons in most cases. It works and I live lol

Ran into an issue early on when I picked up Hicks shotgn and promptly died. Unless i missed a prompt, I had no idea i still had other weapons in my inventory and spent about a half hour trudging through a section with two shotguns. In most games this isnt a problem but in Colonial Marines the shotgun is awful. Mostly its because there is no spread whatsoever and the gun doesnt point at the same direction it is firing. I actually had to get a red dot scope for a shotgun in order to use it...

I dont mind so much that I have no idea how much ammo I have though I thought they were putting in a button to look at the ammo display for the guns but I dont see it in the controls. Whats aggrivating me is that I have no idea if/how many grenades I have or if/how much body armor I have or even if it is being effective, sometimes I die in one hit and sometimes I die in 5. I kinda like it but its still a little frustrating. I did have to remap my F and G keys because i would try to launch a grenade and hit the wrong key... just staring down xenos with a nade in my hand.

I was impressed with the ai in places actually, the npc teamate just blocks my aim but the enemies are sometimes smart. The first lurker I encountered actually ran past me and I thought he went through the door but he went up the wall, dropped down behind me and got me from behind as I went looking. Could have been a random chance but I liked how the encounter went down.

The only thing that has got me bent so far is that after the first area the game has suddenly turned into every generic fps ever except my guns suck and and grenades explode on me so fast that Ive died in mid sprint being pegged by them. There doesnt seem to be any delay, if someone throws a grenade on badass difficulty its GG.

I spent my last half hour resetting my selected weapons after a fresh death (oh man thats annoying) and working my way through the first area full of combine troopers just to get blasted through cover or beaned with a grenade while waiting for an enemy to quit hiding behind crap. This is something youd expect 4/5 of the way through the game just to slow you down but I just got started!

Ive noticed that the human enemies are pretty smart and do manage to take good positions. I like that, the only issue I have is theres no answer to them other than to get lucky spamming the SHARP gun at red dots and hope nobody throws a grenade.

So far (which isnt much of the game, or at normal difficulty) its not that bad. I cant see squat and as soon as the enemies from FEAR showed up I wanted to kick my monitor in because... ITS AN ALIENS GAME... but overall id give it a 6/10 with potential.

Also: I have no idea if health regens on badass or not but when the screen stops being red it doesnt seem like I gained any life back, next shot always kills me.

Might edit/update later whenever I get past the part im stuck at.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Elicas on Feb 12, 2013, 10:57:55 AM
Well I said 40%, which would be 55%-60% in todays inflated scores.

Looks like very few people had to inflate their score for this, it's that bad. We can discount the couple of places that gave it an 8 or a 9 (places like Forbes) or who prefaced their reviews with "I've only ever seen Prometheus out of the series before" as knowing f**k all about gaming/Aliens.

3-7 across the board, it stinks. f**king fanwank bullshit that'll go down as a worse rape of the source material then AVP or AVP:R.

Told you so. ;).

Edit: Metacritic score as of 11:00 AM GMT.

PC - 47 critic - 5.1 User.
PS3 - 50 critic - 4.4 User.
XBOX - 50 critic - 4.8 User.
WiiU - Unreleased.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Cabo Grake69 on Feb 12, 2013, 11:22:23 AM
Hi everyone.

I´ve been reading reviews for at least 2 hours, and still I dont know what Im gonna do. One thing is sure, it shouldnt be this difficult for an alien fan to decide whether or not buying the game.

I´ve been following these forums for years (I didnt  post because my english is sooo rusty). Today I cant help but ask you: Is the game as bad as it sounds? In other words, do you think alien fans (who actually liked AVP 2010) should purchase the game??? I find hard to believe the game is such a let down! I know you take alien franchise seriously, so please let me know your opinion.

Im awared this is not a fan review but I promise to write one ASAP (If you convince me to buy the game). Thanks for you replies!!!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Gazz on Feb 12, 2013, 11:34:06 AM
I've played through three levels. The graphics are alright if unremarkable maxed out on PC but the integration of animated sequences (pressing buttons, doors, cut scenes) is jarring to say the least. I like that care has been taken to recreate a the old sets and in realising up the new, but they're wasted on the samey generic action over and over again. Overall I would say that 4 or 5 out of 10 seems about right but I have yet to finish the campaign or give the multiplayer a real go.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Ac!d4Blood on Feb 12, 2013, 11:38:33 AM
Its all over the net now the game blows :(
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Salt The Fries on Feb 12, 2013, 11:44:10 AM
The game's release taught me extremely valuable life lesson - to appreciate the value of life, what we have and that we take so many things for granted. Now I infinitesimally appreciate what Rebellion did in 2010.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WinterActual on Feb 12, 2013, 11:50:43 AM
AvP '10 = GOTY MATERIAL!

I think SEGA will probably cancel the Wii-U version.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: EEV2650 on Feb 12, 2013, 11:56:55 AM
Goog God, I'm overcome with nothing but negativity for this game. Every review I'm reading, be it professional or amature reviewers is negative. I am starting too wish I had waited and got this game on the cheap the same way I did with AVP2010.

I'll pick up my pre-ordered copy today but I probably won't have a chance to play it till tommorow. I'm already depressed.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: The Runner on Feb 12, 2013, 11:58:02 AM
Was playing AVP 2010 Single Player Survivour, and boy, the aliens actually....hmmm you know, act like aliens.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: teras on Feb 12, 2013, 12:21:50 PM
Quote from: Cabo Grake69 on Feb 12, 2013, 11:22:23 AM
Hi everyone.

I´ve been reading reviews for at least 2 hours, and still I dont know what Im gonna do. One thing is sure, it shouldnt be this difficult for an alien fan to decide whether or not buying the game.

I´ve been following these forums for years (I didnt  post because my english is sooo rusty). Today I cant help but ask you: Is the game as bad as it sounds? In other words, do you think alien fans (who actually liked AVP 2010) should purchase the game??? I find hard to believe the game is such a let down! I know you take alien franchise seriously, so please let me know your opinion.

Im awared this is not a fan review but I promise to write one ASAP (If you convince me to buy the game). Thanks for you replies!!!

If you liked AVP 2010 and you can get it for the PC, then go ahead.
There is enjoyment to get out of this and I think that it is better than AVP 2010 (although others disagree).
Beware though that you have to keep your expectations low and just play it for mindless fun. No canon, no AAA material. Just an "unknown" mediocre uneven game that in some parts reminds you of Aliens.

Although I personally would have prefered not to give GBX and Sega more profit by purchasing, because honestly they don't deserve it. GBX is now officially on my boycott list, right next to Bethesda!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Vepariga on Feb 12, 2013, 12:39:38 PM
Just been playing some Campaign. Its decent,gameplay is solid but I have had a few glitches and odditys now and then,bit of clipping issues,some parts it made me feel like im playing a BETA version. Like everyone has said Graphics could be alot better,like they just used low res textures on everything...It is Sega/Gearbox after all. A.I is abit dumb lol and I find some of the Marines actions to be abit corn ball too,like at the start why the hell would you pop a grenade in the docking bridge is beyond me. but its fun for the most part and thats whats important.

Going to jump into the multiplayer tomorrow.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: teras on Feb 12, 2013, 12:42:19 PM
Quote from: RagingDragon on Feb 12, 2013, 09:15:57 AM
Okay, so let me just repeat the obvious and say that these graphics are almost comical. :laugh: No, shit, they are comical. I mean, I'm on Xbox and they're sub Indie-game status at times.. But once you start playing the game, you suddenly stop giving a f**k about them lol. At least I did, because the gameplay was just fun.

I'm only playing multiplayer, though.. so I'm sure there are a lot of things I'm not getting with the campaign..

It kind of feels like Aliens, but serious 13-year-old-boy status Aliens. :laugh: It's Durrrr, but damn I still enjoy it. The multiplayer combines addictive, fast, and variable gameplay with lots of customization (at least I think, at this point?) and I think (f**king read: HOOOPE) it will keep people playing.

Sorry not much of a review, I'm just really enjoying the aspect of the game I was most looking forward to. A bit giddy, after all of the doom. Even if the campaign pisses me off, I'm going to have some fun with this MP before she goes' *plays sad harmonica*

On a comical note:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J8SzBhjqaQ#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J8SzBhjqaQ#ws)
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WinterActual on Feb 12, 2013, 12:45:15 PM
Even the AI can't deal with the wallwalk. Its THAT broken :\
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Vepariga on Feb 12, 2013, 12:59:46 PM
This is what they have to show for 6 years...Honestly they could have used the money they put into promotion and events to upgrade the engine and AI code and de-bugging.

Its hard to say AVP 2010 is better,but it is...
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Prime113 on Feb 12, 2013, 01:01:31 PM
Quote from: teras on Feb 12, 2013, 12:42:19 PM
Quote from: RagingDragon on Feb 12, 2013, 09:15:57 AM
Okay, so let me just repeat the obvious and say that these graphics are almost comical. :laugh: No, shit, they are comical. I mean, I'm on Xbox and they're sub Indie-game status at times.. But once you start playing the game, you suddenly stop giving a f**k about them lol. At least I did, because the gameplay was just fun.

I'm only playing multiplayer, though.. so I'm sure there are a lot of things I'm not getting with the campaign..

It kind of feels like Aliens, but serious 13-year-old-boy status Aliens. :laugh: It's Durrrr, but damn I still enjoy it. The multiplayer combines addictive, fast, and variable gameplay with lots of customization (at least I think, at this point?) and I think (f**king read: HOOOPE) it will keep people playing.

Sorry not much of a review, I'm just really enjoying the aspect of the game I was most looking forward to. A bit giddy, after all of the doom. Even if the campaign pisses me off, I'm going to have some fun with this MP before she goes' *plays sad harmonica*

On a comical note:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J8SzBhjqaQ#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J8SzBhjqaQ#ws)

:laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Grey_Yautja on Feb 12, 2013, 01:13:55 PM
Quote from: teras on Feb 12, 2013, 12:42:19 PM
Quote from: RagingDragon on Feb 12, 2013, 09:15:57 AM
Okay, so let me just repeat the obvious and say that these graphics are almost comical. :laugh: No, shit, they are comical. I mean, I'm on Xbox and they're sub Indie-game status at times.. But once you start playing the game, you suddenly stop giving a f**k about them lol. At least I did, because the gameplay was just fun.

I'm only playing multiplayer, though.. so I'm sure there are a lot of things I'm not getting with the campaign..

It kind of feels like Aliens, but serious 13-year-old-boy status Aliens. :laugh: It's Durrrr, but damn I still enjoy it. The multiplayer combines addictive, fast, and variable gameplay with lots of customization (at least I think, at this point?) and I think (f**king read: HOOOPE) it will keep people playing.

Sorry not much of a review, I'm just really enjoying the aspect of the game I was most looking forward to. A bit giddy, after all of the doom. Even if the campaign pisses me off, I'm going to have some fun with this MP before she goes' *plays sad harmonica*

On a comical note:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J8SzBhjqaQ#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J8SzBhjqaQ#ws)

Oh god, I squirted my drink through my nose after seeing that, so random!
All those in favour of a sticky thread with all these funny glitches, say 'Aye'.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Omega1 on Feb 12, 2013, 01:15:40 PM
I lack the words to express how horribly bad and disappointing this game is... It really is heartbreaking to go from the greatness that is Alien and Aliens... To this...
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Grey_Yautja on Feb 12, 2013, 01:20:14 PM
Quote from: Omega1 on Feb 12, 2013, 01:15:40 PM
I lack the words to express how horribly bad and disappointing this game is... It really is heartbreaking to go from the greatness that is Alien and Aliens... To this...

I honestly don't know if I sould spend some bucks of my salary on this game. Should I wait and see if this ugly duckling births a beautiful Xenomorph? Or just save my money?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Samus007 on Feb 12, 2013, 01:38:14 PM
So for those that have played it, should I just plan on playing thru it on the hardest difficulty setting, or is that "frustrating hard"? I plan on playing CoOp only with my brother, we are both avid FPS players.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Cabo Grake69 on Feb 12, 2013, 01:45:44 PM
Quote from: teras on Feb 12, 2013, 12:21:50 PM
Quote from: Cabo Grake69 on Feb 12, 2013, 11:22:23 AM
Hi everyone.

I´ve been reading reviews for at least 2 hours, and still I dont know what Im gonna do. One thing is sure, it shouldnt be this difficult for an alien fan to decide whether or not buying the game.

I´ve been following these forums for years (I didnt  post because my english is sooo rusty). Today I cant help but ask you: Is the game as bad as it sounds? In other words, do you think alien fans (who actually liked AVP 2010) should purchase the game??? I find hard to believe the game is such a let down! I know you take alien franchise seriously, so please let me know your opinion.

Im awared this is not a fan review but I promise to write one ASAP (If you convince me to buy the game). Thanks for you replies!!!

If you liked AVP 2010 and you can get it for the PC, then go ahead.
There is enjoyment to get out of this and I think that it is better than AVP 2010 (although others disagree).
Beware though that you have to keep your expectations low and just play it for mindless fun. No canon, no AAA material. Just an "unknown" mediocre uneven game that in some parts reminds you of Aliens.

Although I personally would have prefered not to give GBX and Sega more profit by purchasing, because honestly they don't deserve it. GBX is now officially on my boycott list, right next to Bethesda!

Thank you very much for your reply. With that in mind, I think I´m getting the game. Once I finish the SP campaign, I´ll post my conclusions here. I must warn you, when it comes to aliens Im easy to please. That being said, something tells me this game is going to put my patience to the test...

Once again, thanks. Enjoy the game! (if you can)
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Rolle on Feb 12, 2013, 01:54:09 PM
My opinion based on PC version singleplayer badass difficulty. Haven´t played for long but, I do understand why people are so disappointed. I´m disappointed too. I get this feeling that I´m playing beta game (happens quite often nowadays) so my opinion currenlty on SP about 2h game time. 6/10.

Graphics are outdated, not the worst but I did hope to see at least black ops level graphics.

Sound world is awesome and also I noted that I didn´t hear the aliens move, just like in the Aliens movie. One actually sneaked behind me and I had a jump scare moment there. :D

A.I well I would dare to say it´s basic. Yes in my 2h game time I did see that some of the aliens tried to flank me, humans took cover and popped some grenades at me, own side marines little lacking but hey, I´m used to worse thanks to Cod and Battlefield. They did manage to kill some aliens so they are not completely useless. But because GB guys hyped the "they can come from the vents" etc. I did ummm...what´s the word..well lets say I waited for better A.I. I mean that it´s funny when the lurker goes behind table to hide like ashamed animal xD I could clearly see where it was whole time.

Control of the game is good, better than AvP(3) and modifying weapons do affect somewhat to the aiming speed and mobility.

Animations are lacking, yes I did manage to get some limbs of from the enemies but why did it die? AvP series aliens would crawl at me if lost limb. Also the acid blood effect is lame. Thou I have died because of the acid so yes, it´s hazardous at least on the hardest difficulty.

Oh yes, there will be bugs...like bugs bugs net the alien bugs. Clipping, pathing errors, bad textures, invisible walls etc.

So I do believe that when I got this for my PS3 there will be patch by then (hopefully) in a week or so. Hotfix I think.
Also because I´m going to play the campaign coop I bet it will affect my rating with +1

In my books that means, game is playable, it´s not perfect, if you like this type of game you might consider buying it (even more so if the MP is good), suggested price 30-45€ (something like 50$) or wait till price drops if you are not a fan of the series or this type of games.

Currently in my own humble opinion , better than AvP (just a little) also ,if patched properly and not abandoned it could be even better.


Quote from: Samus007 on Feb 12, 2013, 01:38:14 PM
So for those that have played it, should I just plan on playing thru it on the hardest difficulty setting, or is that "frustrating hard"? I plan on playing CoOp only with my brother, we are both avid FPS players.

Go for the badass. Because of you are good at FPS games I see no point playing any easier level.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Porkus Maximus on Feb 12, 2013, 02:02:09 PM
Quote from: Samus007 on Feb 12, 2013, 01:38:14 PM
So for those that have played it, should I just plan on playing thru it on the hardest difficulty setting, or is that "frustrating hard"? I plan on playing CoOp only with my brother, we are both avid FPS players.

Playing through co-op on ultimate badass with 1 friend at the moment. Even though the Aliens are physically a bit tougher, the poor AI makes them pretty easy to kill. The main difficulty comes from the wey-yu mercs who have deadly accuracy and can headshot you with ease. The heavily armoured ones can take entire magazines to the chest without even flinching too.  I still wouldn't consider it overly frustrating though.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: teras on Feb 12, 2013, 02:17:36 PM
Quote from: Cabo Grake69 on Feb 12, 2013, 01:45:44 PM
Quote from: teras on Feb 12, 2013, 12:21:50 PM
Quote from: Cabo Grake69 on Feb 12, 2013, 11:22:23 AM
Hi everyone.

I´ve been reading reviews for at least 2 hours, and still I dont know what Im gonna do. One thing is sure, it shouldnt be this difficult for an alien fan to decide whether or not buying the game.

I´ve been following these forums for years (I didnt  post because my english is sooo rusty). Today I cant help but ask you: Is the game as bad as it sounds? In other words, do you think alien fans (who actually liked AVP 2010) should purchase the game??? I find hard to believe the game is such a let down! I know you take alien franchise seriously, so please let me know your opinion.

Im awared this is not a fan review but I promise to write one ASAP (If you convince me to buy the game). Thanks for you replies!!!

If you liked AVP 2010 and you can get it for the PC, then go ahead.
There is enjoyment to get out of this and I think that it is better than AVP 2010 (although others disagree).
Beware though that you have to keep your expectations low and just play it for mindless fun. No canon, no AAA material. Just an "unknown" mediocre uneven game that in some parts reminds you of Aliens.

Although I personally would have prefered not to give GBX and Sega more profit by purchasing, because honestly they don't deserve it. GBX is now officially on my boycott list, right next to Bethesda!

Thank you very much for your reply. With that in mind, I think I´m getting the game. Once I finish the SP campaign, I´ll post my conclusions here. I must warn you, when it comes to aliens Im easy to please. That being said, something tells me this game is going to put my patience to the test...

Once again, thanks. Enjoy the game! (if you can)

You're welcome  :)

Don't worry, I can enjoy the game. It's just that GBX basically lied to us. They showed entirely different things during development and they gave us something completely different. I think this is the definition of a scam.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Frog on Feb 12, 2013, 03:33:49 PM
Thank you for this thread.  I read it last Friday and immediatly cancelled my pre-order.  You saved me $60.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Anonymous684 on Feb 12, 2013, 03:43:15 PM
I dunno if everyone has a busted version of the game but im playing on the PC and its looks beautiful plays great and the multiplayer is addicting as hell. Shit so far my only complaint is some of the voice acting... oh and you want the Enemies to be more difficult... Badass mode bitches!

Never would have dreamed to get it on a console as that seems to be FAR worse!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Space_Dementia on Feb 12, 2013, 03:45:10 PM
I cancelled my pre-order for completely different reasons, though I'm kinda glad i did now...I never thought I find myself saying that about anything Alien related and I tend not to rely on reviews/other peoples views. But for the sake of saving £40 on something that's no where near the quality of say...Halo 4 for example, id rather keep that £40. Saying that...I'm still dying to get my hands on this and have a go, im just not willing to part with my money so easily anymore, so I hope they lower the price real soon...like £20 maybe? because from what im hearing, quality wise, that's what its roughly worth.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Samhain13 on Feb 12, 2013, 04:04:19 PM
can you play in coop with split screen like gears of war?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Samus007 on Feb 12, 2013, 04:07:23 PM
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Feb 12, 2013, 02:02:09 PM
Quote from: Samus007 on Feb 12, 2013, 01:38:14 PM
So for those that have played it, should I just plan on playing thru it on the hardest difficulty setting, or is that "frustrating hard"? I plan on playing CoOp only with my brother, we are both avid FPS players.

Playing through co-op on ultimate badass with 1 friend at the moment. Even though the Aliens are physically a bit tougher, the poor AI makes them pretty easy to kill. The main difficulty comes from the wey-yu mercs who have deadly accuracy and can headshot you with ease. The heavily armoured ones can take entire magazines to the chest without even flinching too.  I still wouldn't consider it overly frustrating though.

Thanks!!! And you to Rolle
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: DB on Feb 12, 2013, 04:37:37 PM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FTx6e4Ik.gif&hash=3ac424b098a119cc5fbf775a3118e42eeae215b2)

Now that the game is released I can finally say that the wait paid off. This is a really enjoyable trainwreck to watch across the internets. 10/10 The best way to play this game is to go out on lots of different websites and read what the residents think of the game. It is glorious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5WwV9YoW_U#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5WwV9YoW_U#ws)

The teleport!  :D

Edit: Beated. :(

QuoteBasically, everything that is wrong with this game could have been overlooked if the aliens were authentic, but they're not. They're retarded as f**k, will storm straight at you and they're weak as f**k too. There's nothing cunning, menacing or dangerous about them.

Also, why do aliens have the same death sound as gnolls in WoW? That's just f**king retarded.

QuoteBy far the shittiest game I've ever had the misfortune of playing. I've played it for five minutes and that was five minutes too long. It's a terrible console port, with no redeeming qualities whatsoever.

Heck, even AVP 2010 had much better graphics, gameplay, atmosphere, and story.

This game is so bad that every gamer deserves to play it at least once when it hits bargain bin prices (which shouldn't be too long) just to see how much of a train wreck this piece of excrement is. Videos alone won't do it justice.

:D

From a site completely unrelated to shooter games or Aliens.

Oh, Lawdy Lord!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: RagingDragon on Feb 12, 2013, 06:08:28 PM
I know DB ^ It's awesome :D

For anyone thinking about badass mode, I would definitely say go for it. It doesn't make the slow, sometimes silly Aliens any smarter, but they're a bit tougher and do more damage. The mercs aren't bad, either, but their accuracy can be unbelievable at times.

Still, I've had far worse times with CoD on Veteran, far far far worse and more irritating than this.

I agree wholeheartedly with Rolle's review back there in that the AI is just simple. It's not terrible, but it has plenty of flaws. You may not even notice any on your playthrough, but odds are you sure will.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: shakermakerman on Feb 12, 2013, 06:49:54 PM
What a dog turd of a game it is......
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: OpenMaw on Feb 12, 2013, 06:53:44 PM
Would you care to go into the specifics of your experience? What platform were you on?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: MrBrokenTusks. on Feb 12, 2013, 06:59:37 PM
Is this fun?? I know the overall of opinion of this game so far is poor, fair enough, but I never expected a 9 or 10's but it can still be fun and I never really expected or wanted any of the other aspects like graphics or story to be amazing, but is it fun? I am about to start it up, as the single player is the main focus of anger I plan to play it 2player and was wondering how many have experienced how it compares to a solo experience.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: worriors on Feb 12, 2013, 07:02:41 PM
game over man, game over.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Feb 12, 2013, 07:09:43 PM
Wait, is
Spoiler
live Hicks canon?
[close]
That's crazy.

What is the Prometheus connection? The derelict?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: OpenMaw on Feb 12, 2013, 07:12:20 PM
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Feb 12, 2013, 07:09:43 PM
Wait, is
Spoiler
live Hicks canon?
[close]
That's crazy.


According to Gearbox. Yep.

Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Feb 12, 2013, 07:09:43 PM
What is the Prometheus connection? The derelict?

The only connection is the
Spoiler
floating pups found in the derelict, and a two-line dialogue exchange when you enter the pilot's chamber.
[close]
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Anonymous684 on Feb 12, 2013, 07:20:35 PM
Anyone on steam? I want to get some coop in!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: OpenMaw on Feb 12, 2013, 07:24:39 PM
Quote from: Uncanny Psycho on Feb 12, 2013, 07:20:35 PM
Anyone on steam? I want to get some coop in!

I'm waiting on my copy to arrive in the mail. It's 11:30 here, they usually deliver by 2 or so. I'd love to join you though!  :D
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Slaine on Feb 12, 2013, 07:29:27 PM
Spent a few more hours on it.

The campaign is horrible and a waste of time. This is not a good sequel, nor is it worthy. The story was pointless, Hicks was tacked on and it has one of the most anti-climatic endings i've ever witnessed. I finished the game in about 5 hours with no difficiluty apart from stupid glitches that got in the way.

However after playing on the multiplayer a bit more, it's semi-decent. My friends all have the game now so I had an okay time with a few of the modes, once you get over how dodgy it plays, it plays okay. Apparently I read Gearbox only developed the multiplayer (and let Timegate do the single player campaign) which is probably why it funcitions better. And it's much better being able to fight Aliens who are controlled by actual humans, rather than the crappy non-existent AI.

I've now got the hang of controlling the xenos better, and when you work as a team it's okay. I felt none of the game captured the experience of Cameron's Aliens film, but the multiplayer at least brings a bit of it to the table- the manic rush is almost similar to the tense gunfights of the film. Almost.

However the game overall is still very, very poor. And I am deeply dissapointed in the people who made it. Some of the levels Gearbox showcased last year aren't even in the game (such as the first video walkthrough with the crusher, where the queen comes in and smashes up the powerloader). Isn't this false advertising?

I'm trading the game in tommorow after having it for 2 days. Not worth keeping at all as the multiplayer will get boring very quickly, and I want to be able to get as much money from the trade in price as possible as I know lots of people will be trading it in this week.

A massive dissapointment.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Elicas on Feb 12, 2013, 07:37:44 PM
Quote from: Slaine on Feb 12, 2013, 07:29:27 PM
Spent a few more hours on it.

The campaign is horrible and a waste of time. This is not a good sequel, nor is it worthy. The story was pointless, Hicks was tacked on and it has one of the most anti-climatic endings i've ever witnessed. I finished the game in about 5 hours with no difficiluty apart from stupid glitches that got in the way.

However after playing on the multiplayer a bit more, it's semi-decent. My friends all have the game now so I had an okay time with a few of the modes, once you get over how dodgy it plays, it plays okay. Apparently I read Gearbox only developed the multiplayer (and let Timegate do the single player campaign) which is probably why it funcitions better. And it's much better being able to fight Aliens who are controlled by actual humans, rather than the crappy non-existent AI.

I've now got the hang of controlling the xenos better, and when you work as a team it's okay. I felt none of the game captured the experience of Cameron's Aliens film, but the multiplayer at least brings a bit of it to the table- the manic rush is almost similar to the tense gunfights of the film.

However the game overall is still very, very poor. And I am deeply dissapointed in the people who made it. Some of the levels Gearbox showcased last year aren't even in the game (such as the first video walkthrough with the crusher, where the queen comes in and smashes up the powerloader). Isn't this false advertising?

I'm trading the game in tommorow after having it for 2 days. Not worth keeping at all as the multiplayer will get boring very quickly, and I want to be able to get as much money from the trade in price as possible as I know lots of people will be trading it in this week.

A massive dissapointment.

Funny, I'd only heard that Timegate had done the multiplayer, which is the decent part. Like their other multiplayer focussed games like Section 8.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Feb 12, 2013, 07:50:24 PM
Spoiler
Who the hell was in cryo in Hicks's place?
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Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Elicas on Feb 12, 2013, 07:51:29 PM
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Feb 12, 2013, 07:50:24 PM
Spoiler
Who the hell was in cryo in Hicks's place?
[close]

Spoiler
His reply to that question, and I quote: "That's a longer story."

Really, that's the games canonical explanation.
[close]

Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Space_Dementia on Feb 12, 2013, 07:56:08 PM
Quote from: Elicas on Feb 12, 2013, 07:51:29 PM
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Feb 12, 2013, 07:50:24 PM
Spoiler
Who the hell was in cryo in Hicks's place?
[close]

Spoiler
His reply to that question, and I quote: "That's a longer story."

Really, that's the games canonical explanation.
[close]

I imagine this may have been explained as a DLC...maybe, but this game is getting such a bashing i cant imagine any DLC being announced, apart from what i already coming.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Feb 12, 2013, 07:58:32 PM
Genius.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: RazorSlash on Feb 12, 2013, 08:42:07 PM
This is a pretty good representation of my thoughts on this game
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijZABYb4x8k#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijZABYb4x8k#ws)
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Speedy_J on Feb 12, 2013, 09:32:35 PM
Right now I'm playing the campaign on Ultimate Badass...I'm liking the game, it's no GOTY but I'm enjoying it for what it is...Multiplayer? I wish I could actually COMPLETE at match.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Sexy Poot on Feb 12, 2013, 09:36:50 PM
Quote from: RazorSlash on Feb 12, 2013, 08:42:07 PM
This is a pretty good representation of my thoughts on this game
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijZABYb4x8k#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijZABYb4x8k#ws)

Lol JonTron!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: TheLoneSpoon on Feb 12, 2013, 09:40:09 PM
Quote from: Sexy Poot on Feb 12, 2013, 09:36:50 PM
Quote from: RazorSlash on Feb 12, 2013, 08:42:07 PM
This is a pretty good representation of my thoughts on this game
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijZABYb4x8k#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijZABYb4x8k#ws)

Lol JonTron!

Another appropriate Jontron reaction gif to this game.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc05.deviantart.net%2Ffs70%2Ff%2F2012%2F275%2F7%2F9%2Fjontron_nightshade_reaction_gif_by_metroid0070-d5gmyks.gif&hash=619dee7ec2cb9ce74ef43c68ce9dae45d0cccf49)
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ikarop on Feb 12, 2013, 09:43:13 PM
Quote from: DB on Feb 12, 2013, 04:37:37 PM
http://i.imgur.com/Tx6e4Ik.gif
I'm sort of impressed that this whole boiler thing has become an actual meme.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Le Celticant on Feb 12, 2013, 09:44:34 PM
So here we are, after spending few hours on the Multiplayer and completed the SP campaign (Soldier) and doing some Coop (Ultimate Badass) here is what I say about this game:

SP
It's a joke but everyone knows it now.
Successor to aliens blablabla, blablabla, AI blabla, animations blablabla graphics blablabla.
The thing as a mapper that strikes me is the total lack of originality in the environment that feels repetitive and pretty generic to every FPS campaign aka COD syndrome.
The only good things that came up were the Sulaco Hanger with the dropship, some segment inside Hadley's Hope with medlab, Command and maybe just the shortest segment ever inside the Derelict.
It's a shame they did not focus on those three parts rather than spreading us among a thousands blank and empty corridor and room that absolutely does not catch the magic of ALIENS.

If there's only one thing that's probably positive to me it's the marine command.
It felt right handled, much better than the toy you have in AVP2010, the super fast godspeed guy in AVP99 and the Doom Like retarded marine you controlled in AVP2.
Well that's pretty much about it on the positive side of the campaign.

Raven felt like a threat when you were actually not fighting it but when you get on the power loader and engage fight I just felt like they could have give us that for the queen (sucks but better than the end they gave us) or simply make a cut scene.
The fight with the crusher was a joke to me. I'm not even sure that he hits me once.
Overall, Human Corp were much deadlier than Aliens.

Also, I'm old school and there are things I used to love in AVP2 like:
-Ladder
-Vents
-Water for swimming. (you could halfway say it's there in A:CM, but nah, How much I would give to have a fight with Aliens underwater knowing I can't use all my weapons because some cannot fire underwater.
-More hackable / torchable things that are not "just" doors and serves a purpose.


MP

-MAP:
What's the point of making an Alien game directly inspired by ALIENS if it is to give us NO MAPS at launch that are from the movie? Gearbox? Is this a joke? How much DLC did you planned to give us something that can pretend to mimic ALIENS? And even if you didn't want to include them, that's a so few amount of map that it get very quickly boring especially when they don't offer much with having mostly wide open environment. Maybe there are a few spot interesting in each but overall it's weak and environment is wrongly balanced.

-Customization:
LAWLZ

-Mechanic:

[1] What's the point to put Alien third person if it is to make it WORSE than any other AVP games ever managed? Even the horrible AVP99 transition between edges didn't felt that bad. I feel like being constantly disorientated and sometimes my character is moving while I'm not even touching the keyboard when performing wallwalk. Joke?

[2] I feel like that most people are going to be pissed off in the coming weeks between Marine campers and Alien Spliter that camps too.

[3] Why are aliens dying when very very low on health but marine doesn't? Does that makes sense to any of you? I'm pretty sure that between Alien & Human regeneration, Alien is far ahead of us. But nah, to gearbox, Aliens are just BUGS and MUST DIE COS IT'S COOL!

[4] The fact you can't remain in a team as you want is annoying. I wish so much I could spend two matches as Alien instead of having to constantly change every 5 minutes (TDM).

[5] Escape was cool at the beginning but it's kinda like Coop campaign. Aliens aren't a real threat even if handled by player thanks to the ultra god armor you have.

[6] Spawn points are kind of glitchy.

[7] Glitch / bugs / problems everywhere in the MP constantly. Sound problem, animation problem, teleport problem, player exploiting game environment already.

-Network:
As many people pointed out, it's horrible.
No dedicated server doesn't make things easy.
No ability to have host migration will bring hate.
No ability to have at least a server list to choose what you want and drop into a game you're seeking rather than using this finder is not good.
No ability to allow the switch of an Host Pissed me out when I dropped into a server with everyone having above 500 per ping.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Cal427eb on Feb 12, 2013, 10:03:41 PM
Rented it from Redbox, please for the love of God. Don't play this game!  :'(
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: RagingDragon on Feb 12, 2013, 10:17:51 PM
I'm going to second some of your points, Celticant, not that it bloody matters now..

But Escape mode is straight broken until those jackasses fix it. The only 2 maps are full of huge open spaces where your Alien will be cut down again and again. Even when you get close, the marines have so much armor that even when all 4 of you team up and rush at once, you'll still all die 9 times out of 10. I'm serious.

Marines can just backpedal and shotgun or spray with the PR. Grenades do no damage up close, acid does no damage, and Alien health is retarded weak. Sentries are nigh impossible to negotiate, as well.

Why, Gearbox? Why you do this?

I mean, it's fun as the marines (though you win non-stop) but no one's going to be playing it in about 20 minutes. :-\

Sorry if I seem like I'm going back and forth here, this game is just a mess. There are parts I really do enjoy..... bah..
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Gren_86 on Feb 12, 2013, 10:26:00 PM
Quote from: Cal427eb on Feb 12, 2013, 10:03:41 PM
Rented it from Redbox, please for the love of God. Don't play this game!  :'(
Especially for those who are only interested in SP and haven't bought the game I can only say...

STAY THE f**k AWAY FROM IT!!!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: shakermakerman on Feb 12, 2013, 10:33:10 PM
Already sold mine on ebay.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Hellspawn28 on Feb 12, 2013, 10:33:36 PM
It's not too bad so far. I haven't played the multiplayer but the game is pretty fun. The game does bring back some good memories of me playing Alien Trilogy over a decade ago. Right now I give it a 6.5/10. The AI seems pretty buggy sometimes and the graphics are alright I guess.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: MrBrokenTusks. on Feb 12, 2013, 10:34:09 PM
Honestly, maybe it's because I spent the rest of my money on this, so it is exaggerated, but I have this horrible feeling in the pit of my stomach, guilt for buying this, I dunno why as I know I would have probably bought it at somepoint and that its not like I need the money for something else, but damn. I also enjoyed the first mission (all I've played) which makes the guilt even stranger. obviously it's not the best thing in the world but apart from the ai I don't think theres much actively bad about it, (if you wanted and expected a action game rather than a tense action horror game) Maybe it's because I was told not to buy this that the feeling is so strong but I imagine if I hadn't of had that feeling going in I wouldn't be annoyed, I haven't touched the multiplayer yet but if it's better than the single player I will be relieved. Even then I doubt I will stick with it more than a week or two so my advice rent it, I think I might trade it in for £30 and just cut my losses before all I can get is £10 but then Im going to feel even worse for wasting my money, when I could have rented it for £6 quid instead.

EDIT: Anyone in the uk ever use CeX?? there doing a relativley good price for a trade in, but I want to give this game a few more days to let the fan and critical reaction out of my head to give the game a fair chance and was wondering how quickly and often the priced change???
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Gren_86 on Feb 12, 2013, 10:41:13 PM
Quote from: shakermakerman on Feb 12, 2013, 10:33:10 PM
Already sold mine on ebay.
Smart move !
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Anonymous684 on Feb 12, 2013, 11:34:55 PM
I honestly can see the disappointment but the hate HELL NO! I was so sketch about getting this game and honestly if they can fix the wall climbing and boost the AI (all able to in a patch) this game will be awesome!!!! But its at good/great status right now. Met some people online and we've been tearing shit up in the camping and online we wreck havoc. Cant speak for the consoles but PC version is very much satisfying to me!

Oh and everything MAXED out on PC.. Graphics look great! Only some side textures (computer screens, coke cans) that are lose res but again a patch can fix that shit!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Hellspawn28 on Feb 12, 2013, 11:57:16 PM
I doubt I will sell it anytime soon since Gamestop will likely give you only $30 for it. I think I will likely play the game with other members of the site and friends of mine. It's a shame that the game was pretty lackluster, but I don't think it's as bad as other people make it out to be.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: HappyAlien on Feb 13, 2013, 12:11:24 AM
Well i got colonial marines for XBOX 360 about 5 days ago after waiting since the first ps2 announcement in 2002/03.
First thing i noticed was that it looked like an early 2006/7 XBOX 360/ps3 game or a one of those bad early ports from xbox/pc to ps3 remember like the Orange Box. I got it on XBOX because i was hoping like Black ops and Modern warfare it would look a little better than on the PS3. Well its looks pretty bad and i'm hoping for Ps3 owners it dosen't look any worse.

People go on about how bad Call of Duty games look but i think even 2007's modern warfare looks better and the newer ones look far better. When i played co-op with my friend his statement was ' this looks really good for a Super Nintendo game' while being  sarcastic you get the point. Gameplay isn't anything special and when i try to aim the gun i do a melee attack a lot of the time like its to sensitive or something. The cut scenes are a joke and look really dated. While the atmosphere is good at time overall the game feels very dated much like avp2010 when it came out. Its 2013 and i''m playing a game that looks like it belongs in 2006.

When you compare it with other shooters that came out this year like far Cry 3 or most decent shooters that have come out in the last 3-4 years this game just looks old and the gameplay is nothing special. How hard is it for developers to make a good Aliens game a lot of the work has been done for you, you don't have to create a world from scratch or enemies so much of it has been created for you. The sounds and the music has been done for you, so have most of the weapons. This has taken six years and this is the product they put out, not good enough. other developers take two years to create far better fps with better graphics, gameplay and they don't have the advantage of having such a great film to base their game upon. Since Aliens was annouced Gearbox brought out Borderlands 1 and 2, two very good games yet with all the time spent on Aliens this is what is dished out.


As for all those defending it just cause its an Aliens game i think you are in denial. Imagine an aliens game made with the same quality as Halo 4 or Far Cry 3 or one of the other dozens of FPS that are superior to ACM. The game is below average when compared to other FPS i play it cause i love Aliens so much and i hope they will produce something of much better quality in the future. Hopefully i can get some fun out of it in multiplayer with my friends.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Mister T on Feb 13, 2013, 12:26:16 AM
UTTERLY DISAPPOINTING.

I've been a fan of Alien and Aliens since before most of you were born; I have been looking forward to "completion" of the James Cameron story for 27 years; this... travesty simply insults those 27 years of waiting.

I played through the campaign on the normal setting in just under 5 hours; hardly a long title, to be sure.

The plot "twists" were 100% predictable and uniformly cheesy.

I turned the graphics up to maximum, and to be honest, they were so poor that I thought I had mistakenly turned them to minimum instead of maximum.

Audio was tolerable; the musical score was good.  Excellent in fact.

The voice acting was piss poor.

SCREW YOU, RANDY PITCHFORD.  I waited 27 years for this PIECE OF SH&T!?!?!?!

I want a refund; seriously.  There was nothing but false advertising about this game; we were led to believe that it would be "canon" to the film and "a true sequel."

BS!

The only thing that could have been done to make it worse would have been to include a crowbar as the most powerful weapon in the game and some panzy in an orange biohazard suit.

The levels were TEDIOUS and visually unappealing.

One the good side, oh, wait, I haven't seen a good side yet...
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Xenomrph on Feb 13, 2013, 12:43:09 AM
Christ what a clusterf**k. I still want to play this game and I haven't canceled my pre-order, but... jesus, it's like 'Alien3' all over again.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Anonymous684 on Feb 13, 2013, 12:56:30 AM
People are being WAYYYYYYYYY to over critical. What the f**k were people expecting the next BIG THING! Its exactly how it was marketed out to be..... People complain to complain. ITS NOT THAT BAD!

Mark my words in a weeks time there will be a patch out for some side textures and AI boost!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: OpenMaw on Feb 13, 2013, 01:30:28 AM
I've played the first chunk of the game.

Is it as bad as some people are saying? Well... Sorta.

Lots a glitches abound. AI freezing up. AI scoring cheap one shot kills out of nowhere(The Mercs. The aliens are completely weak sauce.).  Allied AI that consistently seems to shoot at walls, missing the targets entirely. I fell through a floor and died out of nowhere. Several spots where you would think you could jump down, or explore, you can't. Very linear experience over all. I was witness to a warrior getting stuck in the ceiling, and a face hugger getting stuck in the base of an egg.

The eggs near Keyes are props, they don't open. I had a feeling every time people wouldn't bother going near them. Facehuggers seem to pause dramatically before leaping at you, making them easy pickings, and not scary in the slightest.

I'm having some fun, but there are a lot of things that are just broken. It's put me on the fence and has me really questioning the DLC pack. I do want to play Bug Hunt, but i'm not sure if I want to give Gearbox that kind of money.


I'm pausing for now until I can find a PC player to co-Op with.

I'm working my way through the campaign on Ultimate Badass mode, by the way.


I recommend to anyone still on the fence, get it when it goes on sale, or in the bargain bin.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: demonbane on Feb 13, 2013, 01:37:59 AM
Quote from: Uncanny Psycho on Feb 13, 2013, 12:56:30 AM
People are being WAYYYYYYYYY to over critical. What the f**k were people expecting the next BIG THING! Its exactly how it was marketed out to be..... People complain to complain. ITS NOT THAT BAD!

Mark my words in a weeks time there will be a patch out for some side textures and AI boost!
Just watching walkthroughs posted in Youtube, it is safe to say people have valid complaints. If you look through the complaints, you will see. People complain that in multiplayer, once marines stick together, they always pwn Aliens. Unless Alien outnumber Marines heavily, there is no hope for Xeno.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Mister T on Feb 13, 2013, 01:39:39 AM
Quote from: Uncanny Psycho on Feb 13, 2013, 12:56:30 AM
People are being WAYYYYYYYYY to over critical. What the f**k were people expecting the next BIG THING! Its exactly how it was marketed out to be..... People complain to complain. ITS NOT THAT BAD!

Mark my words in a weeks time there will be a patch out for some side textures and AI boost!

In fact, I was expecting "the next big thing."

Isn't that what Randy Forkedtongue at Gearbox was promising?  Wasn't he GUARANTEEING Aliens fans that this was "a true sequel" to one of the greatest Sci-Fi movies of all times???

I am complaining because I spent $200.00 on 4 copies of the game so I could have a LAN party with some of my friends who are still overseas in the Army - I retired recently - and the game is so terrible, I don't want to play it again.

THE GAME I S THAT BAD!  To use a phrase from an audiophile, this game is nothing more than boom and sizzle, only it lacks the boom and sizzle.

PISS POOR PRODUCT.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Enenra on Feb 13, 2013, 02:24:47 AM
I'm actually really having a lot of fun with this game. It's a bad game, not 4.5/10 bad but still around 60-70%, but I'm having a lot of fun. MP is a really good time and makes up for the low points of campaign. Speaking of which, there were even a few moments in campaign I enjoyed.

I guess I'm a minority but this buttcheek game is a good time.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: JokersWarPig on Feb 13, 2013, 02:34:55 AM
I'm in the middle of campaign right now, I'll do a review from as fair of a standpoint as I can later or tomorrow.
Really having fun with it though.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: RagingDragon on Feb 13, 2013, 02:35:22 AM
Quote from: Enenra on Feb 13, 2013, 02:24:47 AM
I'm actually really having a lot of fun with this game. It's a bad game, not 4.5/10 bad but still around 60-70%, but I'm having a lot of fun. MP is a really good time and makes up for the low points of campaign. Speaking of which, there were even a few moments in campaign I enjoyed.

I guess I'm a minority but this buttcheek game is a good time.

I'm having fun with it too, and there are plenty of players. Nice to see, even if just for a time. I hope the mp hooks dem assholes :laugh: in a desperate and sick twist of fate, I would now beg the COD kids to stick around, even if they start quick-scoping my Xenomorph with a pimped out gold battle rifle that says "boss" on the back.

I don't care, just want to dick with the mp for a bit and try out the bug hunt, then we can just let it die like Ripley 7 :-\ it's unnatural, not meant to live...

Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Terx2 on Feb 13, 2013, 02:46:26 AM
Played it enjoyed it.

I do have have a little less faith with the story (Hicks should of stayed dead but thats the Alien 3 fan in me talking) Cruz was a bit of bossy jerk
Spoiler
His sacrifice was probably the best thing I like about him and his care for other marines
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The customizations were great could have gone into a little bit more detail though. The doors do take a while to open but that will be fixed in a patch. The music in this game was spot on and with even a few nods to a certain Alien prequel
Spoiler
When I first saw the glowy red ball fly around the Origin I freaked out and shot it :laugh: as the dialogue between Winter and what his face when they spot the dead space jockey.
[close]
Exploring the Derlict/origin and Hadleys Hope was a blast. Multiplayer is were this game shines. Still need to download Ripleys flame thrower, movie characters and the extra customization opitions. I look forward to slaying xenos and tear marines apart with friends. Overall I give it a 8.5/10

Still trying to find the legandary smartgun and Frosts flamethrower ;D
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: RagingDragon on Feb 13, 2013, 03:02:09 AM
I was playing an Extermination on Hive earlier, and got paired up with a marine using Apone's skin. 8) It was awesome, Apone and I running through the hive flamethrowing shit. Just a fun and intense time that I never would've had without this stupid game. :laugh:

I just wish Valve had made the game, then the perfectly-rendered Apone would shout "assholes and elbows!" instead of the generic marine going "I'm a badass!" every 3 seconds :-\ :'( ... >:(
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Anonymous684 on Feb 13, 2013, 03:32:53 AM
Quote from: demonbane on Feb 13, 2013, 01:37:59 AM
Quote from: Uncanny Psycho on Feb 13, 2013, 12:56:30 AM
People are being WAYYYYYYYYY to over critical. What the f**k were people expecting the next BIG THING! Its exactly how it was marketed out to be..... People complain to complain. ITS NOT THAT BAD!

Mark my words in a weeks time there will be a patch out for some side textures and AI boost!
Just watching walkthroughs posted in Youtube, it is safe to say people have valid complaints. If you look through the complaints, you will see. People complain that in multiplayer, once marines stick together, they always pwn Aliens. Unless Alien outnumber Marines heavily, there is no hope for Xeno.

lol weak sauce! Its a group based game! You think charging 4 marines while be one alien and your going to leave.... pleaseeeeeee! I may just be a lucky one but i've experienced ZERO glitches, honestly i've only had stupid 'ALIEN' AI and the wall climbing sucks monkey dick!


Quote from: Mister T on Feb 13, 2013, 01:39:39 AM
Quote from: Uncanny Psycho on Feb 13, 2013, 12:56:30 AM
People are being WAYYYYYYYYY to over critical. What the f**k were people expecting the next BIG THING! Its exactly how it was marketed out to be..... People complain to complain. ITS NOT THAT BAD!

Mark my words in a weeks time there will be a patch out for some side textures and AI boost!

In fact, I was expecting "the next big thing."

Isn't that what Randy Forkedtongue at Gearbox was promising?  Wasn't he GUARANTEEING Aliens fans that this was "a true sequel" to one of the greatest Sci-Fi movies of all times???

I am complaining because I spent $200.00 on 4 copies of the game so I could have a LAN party with some of my friends who are still overseas in the Army - I retired recently - and the game is so terrible, I don't want to play it again.

THE GAME I S THAT BAD!  To use a phrase from an audiophile, this game is nothing more than boom and sizzle, only it lacks the boom and sizzle.

PISS POOR PRODUCT.

sorry but i dont see it! I can see the game being quite lame if your playing alone by yourself through the campaign with bots only, and if your trying to go solo G-DAWG status on multiplayer. Otherwise the game isnt half bad.... is it the best game ever or ALien game at that... nahh!

AGAIN, I only speak for the PC!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: [T)A]DarkDragon on Feb 13, 2013, 04:34:23 AM
Quote from: Mister T on Feb 13, 2013, 12:26:16 AM
we were led to believe that it would be "canon" to the film and "a true sequel."

you believed that?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: OpenMaw on Feb 13, 2013, 04:40:25 AM
Quote from: [T)A]DarkDragon on Feb 13, 2013, 04:34:23 AM
Quote from: Mister T on Feb 13, 2013, 12:26:16 AM
we were led to believe that it would be "canon" to the film and "a true sequel."

you believed that?

That's not really the point is it?

Why do we let game developers off the hook for that kind of crap? Would you let someone sell you a lemon of a car after hyping it up to you? You get it out of the dealership and breaks down, even though he told you it was in excellent shape with only a few miles on it. You're gonna drive back there and tear him a new a**hole, right?

Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Aceburster on Feb 13, 2013, 04:54:27 AM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 13, 2013, 04:40:25 AM
Quote from: [T)A]DarkDragon on Feb 13, 2013, 04:34:23 AM
Quote from: Mister T on Feb 13, 2013, 12:26:16 AM
we were led to believe that it would be "canon" to the film and "a true sequel."

you believed that?

That's not really the point is it?

Why do we let game developers off the hook for that kind of crap? Would you let someone sell you a lemon of a car after hyping it up to you? You get it out of the dealership and breaks down, even though he told you it was in excellent shape with only a few miles on it. You're gonna drive back there and tear him a new a**hole, right?

I kinda agree. Software guys can get away with murder. Whats to stop someone from putting together a slick fake demo with a high poly count in a specific genre and literally delivering pong at the last minute. Not much.

As long as they put an asterisk that says "may not represent finished product" I dont think anyone can do anything about it. Video game makers are starting to dev the same way chinese devs make the clone games/systems sold at flea markets.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Cal427eb on Feb 13, 2013, 04:56:08 AM
Multiplayer is surprisingly good so instead of a 4/10 I'll give it an 6/10. The xeno controls are horrible as is the matchmaking system but if they can fix this the multiplayer could be very fun.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Bugnubbinz on Feb 13, 2013, 05:18:06 AM
New here, but not to the Aliens franchise.

I got my pre-ordered copy of the game today, and have played through half of the campaign as well as trying out each of the multiplayer modes.

While IGN and Metacritic will have you believe that this is a terrible game with graphical issues and poor presentation, let me dispel any apprehension you may have right now. THIS GAME IS FANTASTIC!!

Critics are misguidedly looking for the next-gen FPS CoD-killer, whereas die-hard Aliens fans will be looking for a true sequel to James Cameron's Aliens. This game represents that, more than any movie-adapted video game I've ever played. Aliens: Colonial Marines is a stalwart example of atmosphere and story done right. With a wonderfully-crafted narrative and a deep, tension-driven, and exciting campaign just ooooooozing with all the fan service and spine-shuddering chills that we've been waiting for with an Aliens franchise game. No true fan will should be disappointed.

Gameplay-wise, you're looking at a campaign mode filled with tight shooting, dark corridors, and some superb voice acting including the return of several actors from Aliens including Lance Hendrickson and Michael Biehn. Weapons feel powerful and accurate, the arsenal of the true badasses that the Colonial Marines are (with the one notable exception of the Assault Rifle...with its wimpy 3-round burst, ineffectual sound design, and the fact that it's completely extraneous since the Pulse Rifle is better in every way). The sound design is dead-on, with everything from doors opening to motion tracker pings to pulse rifle blasts sounding exactly like their movie counterparts.

As for the Multiplayer (otherwise known as "why I will keep playing this game after i'm done with the 6-hour campaign"), the game offers some great sustainability in the way of many different game modes (all of which are teams of xenos vs. teams of marines; some of which the marines have only 1 life while xenos respawn constantly) and a TON of unlockable content for customizing your weapons and armor, xeno attacks, and appearance for both sides. The game modes offer a varied assortment of objectives and gameplay styles, and are a ton of fun.

As for the downsides....which every game has. As of today, the communications aspect of multiplayer is buggy (I tried chatting multiple times and the mike connection only worked about 1/3 of the time). There seems to be some lag or frame stuttering during mutliplayer matches during the downtime between rounds, but i'm not sure what caused it. All in all, any issues are minor compared to just how fun the game is!

The Verdict: 8.9/10 for me, the best Aliens game of the last fifteen years.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: JayHy17 on Feb 13, 2013, 05:22:31 AM
just finished the story...

its cool to have hicks back, but the game was so bad it took away what we all wanted.  mp is ok...

5/10
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: And stuff on Feb 13, 2013, 05:33:55 AM
The negatives:

Overall the game was a huge, steaming pile of shit.  From the audio to the animations, the game was a failure.  Not only was it very very short (I got to the end of the game thinking I was finally on the first boss), but it was riddled with glitches and bugs.  I died due to getting stuck on surfaces way too many times.  After waiting about 5 years for the game to come out, I'm very disappointed in the final product.  I don't even understand how a game this short and simple took so long to complete.  It's pretty much the same two level designs (the creepy alien hives and the creepyish human complexes) over and over again.  I had to turn the brightness down to the first tick above the lowest setting to feel any ambiance at all.  The sound effects were minimal - there were no foodstep sfx, no sfx for alien attacks, and poor world sfx.  Poor script and poor voice acting as well.  In other words, the audio for this game (other than the stuff they ripped from the movies, and the soundtrack) is complete shit.

And this is all without mentioning the ugly new alien designs.

The positives:

The graphics for the levels were pretty sweet, as were the aliens themselves.  I liked going through the levels and feeling like something could jump out at me and look damn good doing it.  However I was let down, because very few times does anything jump out at you like xenomorphs tend to do.  It felt more like I was playing the Halo 1 flood levels with alien skins over everything.  Also, the soundtrack and the audio they took from the movies was pretty good, as I mentioned before.

All in all it was a bad game.  Even with all the sloppy programming I would've been able to enjoy the game if it had some alien'esq ambiance, but it didn't.  The game felt like it was a demo awaiting a beta stage or executive producer to tighten it up.  It seemed to me like no one was hired to play the game and tell the developers what needed to be fixed, like a song before the mastering process or a book before it's been proofread.  And the saddest part of it all is that the game does have a lot potential - if they would've finished it.  But that would've taken another 2 years.


If you're on PC, do yourself a favor and check it out before purchasing it.  See if you think it's worth your money.  Piratebay, type "colonial marines" into the search and find Mr.Stifmeister's upload.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: hfeldhaus on Feb 13, 2013, 05:36:36 AM
Iv only played MP so fat and it's fun as hell. I watched my bro play the campaign and after all the negative stuff I heard about the graphics I had my worries. However I'm actually surprised as they're better than I thought they were going to be. Environmental lighting is very good and the indoor sections are interesting. The marine models are terrible though eexpressionless faces arent good. MP is a huge improvement on AVP. Better matchmaking system, that can be sosomewhat slow. It works well most of the time. It's also much more balance and fun to play. Alien controls are fiddly as a muthaf**ka but once I got used to the wall climbing they were fine. Hit detection can be off but it's not driven me up the wall yet like black ops 2. Maps are very good. Not too big and not too small, I like how it promotes players to usr basic tactics in order to win. In my opinion I'd give the MP a 7/10, and from what iv seen the campaign is a 5/10 because it's so generic. Why is O'Neil such a hussy when he looks like a bad ass?!?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Cal427eb on Feb 13, 2013, 05:37:03 AM
Quote from: And stuff on Feb 13, 2013, 05:33:55 AM
The negatives:

Overall the game was a huge, steaming pile of shit.  From the audio to the animations, the game was a failure.  Not only was it very very short (I got to the end of the game thinking I was finally on the first boss), but it was riddled with glitches and bugs.  I died due to getting stuck on surfaces way too many times.  After waiting about 5 years for the game to come out, I'm very disappointed in the final product.  I don't even understand how a game this short and simple took so long to complete.  It's pretty much the same two level designs (the creepy alien hives and the creepyish human complexes) over and over again.  I had to turn the brightness down to the first tick above the lowest setting to feel any ambiance at all.  The sound effects were minimal - there were no foodstep sfx, no sfx for alien attacks, and poor world sfx.  Poor script and poor voice acting as well.  In other words, the audio for this game (other than the stuff they ripped from the movies, and the soundtrack) is complete shit.

And this is all without mentioning the ugly new alien designs.

The positives:

The graphics for the levels were pretty sweet, as were the aliens themselves.  I liked going through the levels and feeling like something could jump out at me and look damn good doing it.  However I was let down, because very few times does anything jump out at you like xenomorphs tend to do.  It felt more like I was playing the Halo 1 flood levels with alien skins over everything.  Also, the soundtrack and the audio they took from the movies was pretty good, as I mentioned before.

All in all it was a bad game.  Even with all the sloppy programming I would've been able to enjoy the game if it had some alien'esq ambiance, but it didn't.  The game felt like it was a demo awaiting a beta stage or executive producer to tighten it up.  It seemed to me like no one was hired to play the game and tell the developers what needed to be fixed, like a song before the mastering process or a book before it's been proofread.  And the saddest part of it all is that the game does have a lot potential - if they would've finished it.  But that would've taken another 2 years.


If you're on PC, do yourself a favor and check it out before purchasing it.  See if you think it's worth your money.

You might want to remove that link. And did you really think that it had GOOD graphics?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Dusk on Feb 13, 2013, 05:38:52 AM
You probably shouldn't quote the link either.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Cal427eb on Feb 13, 2013, 05:40:17 AM
Shit you're right.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: And stuff on Feb 13, 2013, 05:41:32 AM
Quote from: Cal427eb on Feb 13, 2013, 05:37:03 AM
Quote from: And stuff on Feb 13, 2013, 05:33:55 AM
The negatives:

Overall the game was a huge, steaming pile of shit.  From the audio to the animations, the game was a failure.  Not only was it very very short (I got to the end of the game thinking I was finally on the first boss), but it was riddled with glitches and bugs.  I died due to getting stuck on surfaces way too many times.  After waiting about 5 years for the game to come out, I'm very disappointed in the final product.  I don't even understand how a game this short and simple took so long to complete.  It's pretty much the same two level designs (the creepy alien hives and the creepyish human complexes) over and over again.  I had to turn the brightness down to the first tick above the lowest setting to feel any ambiance at all.  The sound effects were minimal - there were no foodstep sfx, no sfx for alien attacks, and poor world sfx.  Poor script and poor voice acting as well.  In other words, the audio for this game (other than the stuff they ripped from the movies, and the soundtrack) is complete shit.

And this is all without mentioning the ugly new alien designs.

The positives:

The graphics for the levels were pretty sweet, as were the aliens themselves.  I liked going through the levels and feeling like something could jump out at me and look damn good doing it.  However I was let down, because very few times does anything jump out at you like xenomorphs tend to do.  It felt more like I was playing the Halo 1 flood levels with alien skins over everything.  Also, the soundtrack and the audio they took from the movies was pretty good, as I mentioned before.

All in all it was a bad game.  Even with all the sloppy programming I would've been able to enjoy the game if it had some alien'esq ambiance, but it didn't.  The game felt like it was a demo awaiting a beta stage or executive producer to tighten it up.  It seemed to me like no one was hired to play the game and tell the developers what needed to be fixed, like a song before the mastering process or a book before it's been proofread.  And the saddest part of it all is that the game does have a lot potential - if they would've finished it.  But that would've taken another 2 years.


If you're on PC, do yourself a favor and check it out before purchasing it.  See if you think it's worth your money.

You might want to remove that link. And did you really think that it had GOOD graphics?

Thanks for the warning..  And yeah, I mean, they weren't Dead Space 3 graphics, but they were okay for what they were.  Yes, they were really repetetive but they weren't terrible.  Some layering of more environmental effects would've been the icing on the cow shit cake though.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: hfeldhaus on Feb 13, 2013, 05:44:02 AM
Biggest problem I saw was the dumb AI. Everything else wad serviceable. It feels much less clunky compared to AVP. No longer is it like your surrounded by treacle
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Dusk on Feb 13, 2013, 05:50:18 AM
I still haven't played this game. I'm waiting for the price to go way, way down. But AvP was clunky? I'm currently playing the game again and think that everything Rebellion did was pretty solid. IMO, everything is in place. The only reason the game sucked was because the story was so utterly lackluster.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: And stuff on Feb 13, 2013, 05:51:34 AM
Quote from: Dusk on Feb 13, 2013, 05:50:18 AM
I still haven't played this game. I'm waiting for the price to go way, way down. But AvP was clunky? I'm currently playing the game again and think that everything Rebellion did was pretty solid. IMO, everything is in place. The only reason the game sucked was because the story was so utterly lackluster.

Do you play on PC?  If so don't buy it, just pirate it.  At least not before you decide if you like it.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Dusk on Feb 13, 2013, 05:54:30 AM
Already got in trouble because of piracy. Lesson learned.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: cursedMonk on Feb 13, 2013, 05:56:05 AM
I'm downloading now. I figured "what the hell". I have bought the Blu Ray SPE (didn't care to own 4 but it came with the package) -> DVD SPE 1-3 -> Laser Disk SPE 1-3-> and Dubbed the VHS SPE, i've owned every game for just about every console/pc I ever owned all the way back to jaquar days. Its been a few years, cant escape the urge for new aliens adventures. I also figure, im a programmer, maybe I can mod the things I don't like. Most of the avp games werent too stellar till the mod community hit it.

Will post review after 2 hours of game play (5 total hours according to everyone, fine im ok with that. i'm going to start on bad ass).

Like I said, im an avid fan, and like mp. Im cool if the story is crap...almost every alien game seems to have a crap story.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Hellspawn28 on Feb 13, 2013, 05:57:16 AM
I have people saying that this game is the Sonic '06 of the Alien franchise. I admit that its not a great or good game, but I don't think its nowhere near the level of that awful piece of crap in my opinion.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: And stuff on Feb 13, 2013, 06:04:41 AM
Quote from: Dusk on Feb 13, 2013, 05:54:30 AM
Already got in trouble because of piracy. Lesson learned.

The lesson should've been to get better at it..  Now we're one down in the fight. :-\
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: hfeldhaus on Feb 13, 2013, 06:08:33 AM
Quote from: Dusk on Feb 13, 2013, 05:50:18 AM
I still haven't played this game. I'm waiting for the price to go way, way down. But AvP was clunky? I'm currently playing the game again and think that everything Rebellion did was pretty solid. IMO, everything is in place. The only reason the game sucked was because the story was so utterly lackluster.

Playing as the marines wad very stiff with little manoeuvrability. MP IS aactually fun in CM purely because there's much less bullshit. The alien combat works albeit with sone exaggerated moves. The reason the game sucked was because it had a terrible campaign and MP was completely useless. The melee combat system was a shambles and I'm glad it's nearly impossible to knock an alien back in CM MP.


Quote from: And stuff on Feb 13, 2013, 06:04:41 AM
Quote from: Dusk on Feb 13, 2013, 05:54:30 AM
Already got in trouble because of piracy. Lesson learned.

The lesson should've been to get better at it..  Now we're one down in the fight. :-\

iracy is what is making the entertainment sector go down the shitter. Have some respect for the many thousands of people who put a lot of time and effort into making games, films and music.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Dusk on Feb 13, 2013, 06:15:55 AM
I can really wait before I'll get this game. Heck, by the sound of it, it might not be too long before it becomes a $10 bargain bin title. I'm seriously in no rush, especially since the majority of the game apparently wasn't developed by Gearbox anyway.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Vepariga on Feb 13, 2013, 06:25:39 AM
Thank god they brang out that update patch. It actually makes a load of difference. I'm still dissappointed with it but Its still a fun and decent title,just not the one we all hoped it was.

But im enjoying the multiplayer alot,thats where its at! its hard too lol
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ParkerAndBrett on Feb 13, 2013, 06:35:22 AM
I am 2 hrs plus into the campaign at this point, and I feel that this game is getting the shaft.
Any console player who bitches about these graphics and then goes out and plays Halo Reach should be ashamed. Reach convinced me to get a completely new xbox and HDTV and it still sucked ass in the graphical component.
The Xeno AI is dumb, I admit, but I have found it no worse for wear than AVP2010.
The lurker is very nice, and I like the fact that they seperated the giger alien from the cameron alien.
I have enjoyed the WY AI opponents and I don't care if you disagree. I have had no hair pulling moments in dying as I have had in COD4, MW2, BO, MW3, BO2, BF3 and Halo Reach. Stick your head out without cover and kneeling, you die. No cheap gernades, no bs explosions. 
The motion tracker is superior in this game. As a fan of the movies I enjoy its not a part of the HUD. Welcome addition.


Alien fans need to chill, FPS fans need to get off their ritalin and stop being halo/COD slaves.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: hfeldhaus on Feb 13, 2013, 06:41:58 AM
Quote from: ParkerAndBrett on Feb 13, 2013, 06:35:22 AM
I am 2 hrs plus into the campaign at this point, and I feel that this game is getting the shaft.
Any console player who bitches about these graphics and then goes out and plays Halo Reach should be ashamed. Reach convinced me to get a completely new xbox and HDTV and it still sucked ass in the graphical component.
The Xeno AI is dumb, I admit, but I have found it no worse for wear than AVP2010.
The lurker is very nice, and I like the fact that they seperated the giger alien from the cameron alien.
I have enjoyed the WY AI opponents and I don't care if you disagree. I have had no hair pulling moments in dying as I have had in COD4, MW2, BO, MW3, BO2, BF3 and Halo Reach. Stick your head out without cover and kneeling, you die. No cheap gernades, no bs explosions. 
The motion tracker is superior in this game. As a fan of the movies I enjoy its not a part of the HUD. Welcome addition.


Alien fans need to chill, FPS fans need to get off their ritalin and stop being halo/COD slaves.

Can't beat a good angry review. I agree wwith pretty much everything you said
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Space Sweeper on Feb 13, 2013, 06:48:05 AM
Hey, I've thought of something nice to say about the AI--!

Their callouts are usually very accurate, quick, and even useful.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Anonymous684 on Feb 13, 2013, 06:51:24 AM
Quote from: Vepariga on Feb 13, 2013, 06:25:39 AM
Thank god they brang out that update patch. It actually makes a load of difference. I'm still dissappointed with it but Its still a fun and decent title,just not the one we all hoped it was.

But im enjoying the multiplayer alot,thats where its at! its hard too lol

like i said earlier, expect patches this week! im confident they will fix the AI and other small things. `

other problems like people not liking the campaign... i cant but into that.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: JokersWarPig on Feb 13, 2013, 06:59:43 AM
So far I'm really enjoying the game, I'll start off with that.
I'll also try to make this as spoiler free as possible.

The Good
Accuracy: The look of the marines is spot on, as are most of the weapons and the weapon sounds.
O'Neil: I love this guy. Who ever did his voice acting did a great job IMO
The single player is pretty engaging, its not up there with Halo or GoW engaging but I think its a step above COD and the like.
The graphics on the character models and most of the environments are pretty good, the character movements seem pretty fluid as well. Not to many hiccups, though there are some.
Aliens: They do act like the Aliens in the film, they hurl them selves at you and the marines. Some people said this was bad and made them stupid, but its pretty film accurate, albeit there's no power for them to cut.
Legendary weapons: I've enjoyed the ones I've found so far, although at least one of them should be nonexistent. The idea is cool.
Allies: You almost always have a buddy. I hate games that make you lone wolf it out, it was the main thing I didn't really like about AVP2010. I like me some allies.

The Bad
Wey-Yu mercs. It wasn't nessesary for them to be on more then one or two levels imo. Its an Aliens game, I want to kill Aliens.
A better graphics engine would have been nice. I'm spoiled by things like Halo 4 and Bf3, and I know I said the graphics weren't as bad as everyone says, but there's always room for improvement.
Not enough allied bots: I like cannon fodder bots, the game that had these kind of bots the best was the Halo series (1- reach). There's no emotional connection to them, yet you kind of start to form that. I like when my allies follow me and theres the risk of them dying. This game could have benefited from Halo style allies.
Atmosphere: it was almost there, just a smidgeon away from being complete, but there wasn't any real sense of urgency in the game, I want to feel like I could die at any moment.
Vent/Floor pull throughs: What happened to this? I was so excited for this it wasn't even funny.

THE BIGGEST LET DOWN'S (for me)
The Crusher: He seemed so small compared to the E3 demo. It was like fighting a bull dog to be completely honest. The Raven was for more intimidating, the Crusher was just very, VERY puny and lack luster. It was one of the most pathetic things to fight in terms of a boss, the only thing I thought was worse than this was the Prophet of Regret in Halo 2.

Hudson's Pulse Rifle: The thing is burst fire. I don't mean good burst fire like BC2 or BF3, I mean the burst fire that takes 2 or 3 bursts to kill something on recruit and hurts your finger in the process. I love the look of this rifle of the default one, even down to the iron sights, but the burst fire really pisses me off because it's something gearbox had to go out of their way to mess up. Ripley's pulse rifle is full auto, further making it a big middle finger that Hudson's isn't.

For an average gamer who doesn't really care about the franchise I'd give this game a 5/10 maybe a 6 if you really like sci fi shooters.
For a fan of the franchise I'd give it a 7/10, or an 8 if graphics aren't a big deal for you. It wasn't really for me, they where good where it counted.


Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Nightlord on Feb 13, 2013, 07:04:32 AM
Average game is average.

Campaign was boring, like a sightseeing tour where all the sights are cheap imatations of the real things.
Ulitmate badass may as well have the default mode it was so easy, and the story ( ::)) was a true masterclass in fanwank.

The multiplayer is somewhat redeemable, except the two best modes, escape and survivor completely f**k over the aliens with a nerf bat, friendly fire needs to be turned off for those marine flamer and grenade spamming c**tbags.

The third person camera is a f**king failure and the wallwalk can sometimes end up with your alien spazzing out on the walls like he's having a fit,  hilarious to watch until it messes up your game and you get killed because every marine sees this spastic alien flying all over the place like he's got a bullseye on him.

Everyone seems to know how technically bad this game is so yeah no full version of the game here just another alpha like everyone else.


Best thing in the game is the Spaceballs reference.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: [T)A]DarkDragon on Feb 13, 2013, 07:26:21 AM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 13, 2013, 04:40:25 AM
Quote from: [T)A]DarkDragon on Feb 13, 2013, 04:34:23 AM
Quote from: Mister T on Feb 13, 2013, 12:26:16 AM
we were led to believe that it would be "canon" to the film and "a true sequel."

you believed that?

That's not really the point is it?

Why do we let game developers off the hook for that kind of crap? Would you let someone sell you a lemon of a car after hyping it up to you? You get it out of the dealership and breaks down, even though he told you it was in excellent shape with only a few miles on it. You're gonna drive back there and tear him a new a**hole, right?


oh i know, i was just giving you shit lol.

the moment that piece of shit randy pitchford called this game "cannon/true sequel" i knew it was going to be bullshit. and ive been saying that on these forums since.
every video about colonial marines had his face on it, smiling, talking out of his ass.

even funnier gearbox tried to blame this mess on timegate studios. from what i gathered they only had part in the multiplayer, which is the better part of this game.

this is probably the worst video game release in quiet some time. this honestly may be the final blow to the alien series.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.arstechnica.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F08%2Fborderlands-randy-4e39650-intro.jpg&hash=c869f49ddd417825a0980ef6353d18e7248046e2)
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ScardyFox on Feb 13, 2013, 08:09:56 AM
Quote from: Uncanny Psycho on Feb 13, 2013, 12:56:30 AM
People are being WAYYYYYYYYY to over critical. What the f**k were people expecting the next BIG THING! Its exactly how it was marketed out to be..... People complain to complain. ITS NOT THAT BAD!

Mark my words in a weeks time there will be a patch out for some side textures and AI boost!

Pretty much my exact feelings.

I am enjoying it, plain and simple. The cycle of "its cool to hate" hate has taken an unnecessary bite out of this game. It's not like if you don't like CoD you can turn to Battlefield or Vice versa; there are no other Alien games on the market. Sure, it has its problems (most of which can be patched) but it's not nearly the horror show people describe it as. I am enjoying it more than AvP3 thats for sure.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: And stuff on Feb 13, 2013, 08:20:56 AM
Quote
iracy is what is making the entertainment sector go down the shitter.

No, money is.  Cheap, fast money.  And the assholes who buy it up just because someone tells them it's the right thing to do are only making it easier for them to put out sub-par material.  As a community, we need to show the people who put this shit out that we wont buy garbage just because it's wrapped in a pretty bow.  Take some responsibility.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: alekss on Feb 13, 2013, 08:23:17 AM
My answer is short i like this game. Graphic good, sounds good, gameplay good. So far i enjoy playing the game.  :)
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Salt The Fries on Feb 13, 2013, 08:23:58 AM
The level of denial is so enormous it's not even funny. But in the end this exact psychological mechanism that drives you to the denial and excuses is very well documented, it always goes to the stage of making constant excuses to repress initial expectations to make yourself feel better. Make no mistake, from the get-go this has been marketed as the AAA title by both SEGA and Gearbox themselves, up until December 2012. And this was the expectation of majority of the fans as well. I mean, why else would they be waiting for more than 6 years?

Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ScardyFox on Feb 13, 2013, 08:30:34 AM
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Feb 13, 2013, 08:23:58 AM
The level of denial is so enormous it's not even funny. But in the end this exact psychological mechanism that drives you to the denial and excuses is very well documented, it always goes to the stage of making constant excuses to repress initial expectations to make yourself feel better.

A difference of opinion on enjoyment in a videogame dictates denial? Nice two-bit presumption clearly based on several years of clinical psychological studies run by such an esteemed psychologist such as yourself.

Got any more advice for us, life coach?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: SiL on Feb 13, 2013, 08:33:50 AM
No; agreeing with a comment that states the game was never marketed as anything other than mediocre dictates denial. They were clearly gearing this up as hot shit; it isn't; saying that they never hyped it up in the first place is the denial.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Jonesy23 on Feb 13, 2013, 08:34:42 AM
I don't quite understand how liking something others don't is denial. I think that's called an opinion.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: OpenMaw on Feb 13, 2013, 08:37:47 AM
Quote from: Jonesy23 on Feb 13, 2013, 08:34:42 AM
I don't quite understand how liking something others don't is denial. I think that's called an opinion.

Requoted. Read words.

Quote from: SiL on Feb 13, 2013, 08:33:50 AM
No; agreeing with a comment that states the game was never marketed as anything other than mediocre dictates denial. They were clearly gearing this up as hot shit; it isn't; saying that they never hyped it up in the first place is the denial.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: And stuff on Feb 13, 2013, 08:38:35 AM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Feb 13, 2013, 08:30:34 AM
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Feb 13, 2013, 08:23:58 AM
The level of denial is so enormous it's not even funny. But in the end this exact psychological mechanism that drives you to the denial and excuses is very well documented, it always goes to the stage of making constant excuses to repress initial expectations to make yourself feel better.

A difference of opinion on enjoyment in a videogame dictates denial? Nice two-bit presumption clearly based on several years of clinical psychological studies run by such an esteemed psychologist such as yourself.

Got any more advice for us, life coach?

I think it just comes down to standards.  Those of us with moderate to high standards have a harder time telling ourselves that a shitty product is decent.  People with low standards are presumably fine with the product, even if they have to convince themselves of it.

Us alien fans tend to be sticklers for quality.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Prime113 on Feb 13, 2013, 08:39:50 AM
Quote from: And stuff on Feb 13, 2013, 08:38:35 AM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Feb 13, 2013, 08:30:34 AM
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Feb 13, 2013, 08:23:58 AM
The level of denial is so enormous it's not even funny. But in the end this exact psychological mechanism that drives you to the denial and excuses is very well documented, it always goes to the stage of making constant excuses to repress initial expectations to make yourself feel better.

A difference of opinion on enjoyment in a videogame dictates denial? Nice two-bit presumption clearly based on several years of clinical psychological studies run by such an esteemed psychologist such as yourself.

Got any more advice for us, life coach?

I think it just comes down to standards.  Those of us with moderate to high standards have a harder time telling ourselves that a shitty product is decent.  People with low standards are presumably fine with the product, even if they have to convince themselves of it.

Us alien fans tend to be sticklers for quality.

:laugh: I always get a good laugh when someone brings up "high standards" as if it makes them a better human being or something.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ScardyFox on Feb 13, 2013, 08:40:21 AM
Quote from: SiL on Feb 13, 2013, 08:33:50 AM
No; agreeing with a comment that states the game was never marketed as anything other than mediocre dictates denial. They were clearly gearing this up as hot shit; it isn't; saying that they never hyped it up in the first place is the denial.

No. Insinuating that people who like the game somehow showcase a state of denial is ridiculous. Every game hypes up their product as so and so. Whether it failed or not at this is meaningless to the point. Liking the game doesn't mean you're physiological unstable - it simply means people like it.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: And stuff on Feb 13, 2013, 08:41:05 AM
Quote from: Prime113 on Feb 13, 2013, 08:39:50 AM
Quote from: And stuff on Feb 13, 2013, 08:38:35 AM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Feb 13, 2013, 08:30:34 AM
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Feb 13, 2013, 08:23:58 AM
The level of denial is so enormous it's not even funny. But in the end this exact psychological mechanism that drives you to the denial and excuses is very well documented, it always goes to the stage of making constant excuses to repress initial expectations to make yourself feel better.

A difference of opinion on enjoyment in a videogame dictates denial? Nice two-bit presumption clearly based on several years of clinical psychological studies run by such an esteemed psychologist such as yourself.

Got any more advice for us, life coach?

I think it just comes down to standards.  Those of us with moderate to high standards have a harder time telling ourselves that a shitty product is decent.  People with low standards are presumably fine with the product, even if they have to convince themselves of it.

Us alien fans tend to be sticklers for quality.

:laugh: I always get a good laugh when someone brings up "high standards" as if it makes them a better human being or something.

If anything it makes things a lot harder.  Trust me.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Jonesy23 on Feb 13, 2013, 08:42:12 AM
I would say that I'm a pretty heavy fan of the franchise and I don't deny anything about the game. I admit the game has issues but I still play it anyway because to me, it's fun. Does that make me wrong? I don't think so, it just means I have an opinion about the game and mine happens to be positive. Some of the complaints I've heard, such as the graphics being shit is just one of those notches in the bedpost that tells me that gamers now seem to base how good a game is because of how pretty it looks.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: And stuff on Feb 13, 2013, 08:43:09 AM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Feb 13, 2013, 08:40:21 AM
Liking the game doesn't mean you're physiological unstable - it simply means people like it.

Or that the people who enjoy it are much easier to please.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Prime113 on Feb 13, 2013, 08:44:02 AM
Quote from: Jonesy23 on Feb 13, 2013, 08:42:12 AM
I would say that I'm a pretty heavy fan of the franchise and I don't deny anything about the game. I admit the game has issues but I still play it anyway because to me, it's fun. Does that make me wrong? I don't think so, it just means I have an opinion about the game and mine happens to be positive. Some of the complaints I've heard, such as the graphics being shit is just one of those notches in the bedpost that tells me that gamers now seem to base how good a game is because of how pretty it looks.

On the graphics side of things, for me, it looks as if there is a great baseline for the graphics, it's just that they didn't follow up on it. This game could have been pretty damn beautiful.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Jonesy23 on Feb 13, 2013, 08:45:12 AM
I agree they could've looked better, but have we really become a generation of graphics whores when it comes to gaming? There's plenty of games that look very pretty that are total shit, like Devil May Cry 4.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ScardyFox on Feb 13, 2013, 08:46:32 AM
Quote from: And stuff on Feb 13, 2013, 08:43:09 AM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Feb 13, 2013, 08:40:21 AM
Liking the game doesn't mean you're physiological unstable - it simply means people like it.

Or that the people who enjoy it are much easier to please.

And who are you to make that judgment call? Do you some how have some kind of omnipresent ability that senses these things in people with a different view of enjoyment? Or, do you have a crystalball of some kind that lets you in on these things?

If the latter is the case hook me up with some lottery numbers bro, I would love to be a millionaire!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Prime113 on Feb 13, 2013, 08:47:30 AM
Quote from: Jonesy23 on Feb 13, 2013, 08:45:12 AM
I agree they could've looked better, but have we really become a generation of graphics whores when it comes to gaming? There's plenty of games that look very pretty that are total shit, like Devil May Cry 4.

I can agree with that to a point. But, when games like Halo 4 just totally blow our minds with the graphics, then in ACM five feet in front of you is blurry, that's just wrong. You know what I mean. (I'm one of the few enjoying it, by the way)
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Dusk on Feb 13, 2013, 08:47:44 AM
You can like something but still admit that it's bad. Like I immensely enjoyed Concrete Jungle, but I realized its shortcomings and actually had to fight to get used to the controls. But why did I do this? Simply because it was a Predator game. Would it have been anything else, I wouldn't have bothered with it in the slightest. But just because I liked it, while everyone else agreed that it was a bad game, I don't suddenly think they were just too harsh. Especially when this game, according to all the reviews and videos I've seen, don't even get some of the fundamentals of shooters right.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: And stuff on Feb 13, 2013, 08:47:55 AM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Feb 13, 2013, 08:46:32 AM
Quote from: And stuff on Feb 13, 2013, 08:43:09 AM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Feb 13, 2013, 08:40:21 AM
Liking the game doesn't mean you're physiological unstable - it simply means people like it.

Or that the people who enjoy it are much easier to please.

And who are you to make that judgment call?

It's fact.  Not an opinion, lol.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Jonesy23 on Feb 13, 2013, 08:48:17 AM
I gotta go with ScardyFox on this one. Are you saying I have some kind of psychological problem and denial issues because I like this game and not a game like Black Ops 2?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Prime113 on Feb 13, 2013, 08:50:18 AM
Quote from: Jonesy23 on Feb 13, 2013, 08:48:17 AM
I gotta go with ScardyFox on this one. Are you saying I have some kind of psychological problem and denial issues because I like this game and not a game like Black Ops 2?

Hell, I liked both. I liked MW3, too. I also enjoy AVP3. Honestly, I'm glad its that way. I would rather go through life enjoying things, than not enjoying things. Are some better than others? Of course. I can admit to the faults all those games have, but I enjoy my time with them.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: And stuff on Feb 13, 2013, 08:51:21 AM
Quote from: Jonesy23 on Feb 13, 2013, 08:48:17 AM
I gotta go with ScardyFox on this one. Are you saying I have some kind of psychological problem and denial issues because I like this game and not a game like Black Ops 2?

I think they're just saying folks are easy to please.  Yes it's a psychological issue but certainly not a problem.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: OpenMaw on Feb 13, 2013, 08:51:59 AM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Feb 13, 2013, 08:46:32 AM
And who are you to make that judgment call? Do you some how have some kind of omnipresent ability that senses these things in people with a different view of enjoyment? Or, do you have a crystalball of some kind that lets you in on these things?

If the latter is the case hook me up with some lottery numbers bro, I would love to be a millionaire!

Or, just simple observation of the facts. It's nearly universal with critiques, walkthroughs by casual gamers, first impressions, write ups, behind the scenes developers, and many members of this community that this game is at best a sub standard product. If you derived personal enjoyment from it, that's fine and good, but that does not make the game itself a good exchange for 50 bucks.

Quote from: Jonesy23 on Feb 13, 2013, 08:48:17 AM
I gotta go with ScardyFox on this one. Are you saying I have some kind of psychological problem and denial issues because I like this game and not a game like Black Ops 2?

It's not a matter of "this" over "that." It's what Gearbox said, what their PR team hyped up, versus what their game is. Even in the words of some of their own development people now after the fact. They KNEW they were putting out something faulty, and substandard. The evidence is visible all over YouTube with the walk through in every port. HORRIBLE glitches. This is not a good game. Just because a couple people had an emotionally positive experience romping through it does not change that fact. The game is mechanically flawed.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Prime113 on Feb 13, 2013, 08:52:14 AM
Quote from: And stuff on Feb 13, 2013, 08:51:21 AM
Quote from: Jonesy23 on Feb 13, 2013, 08:48:17 AM
I gotta go with ScardyFox on this one. Are you saying I have some kind of psychological problem and denial issues because I like this game and not a game like Black Ops 2?

I think they're just saying folks are easy to please.  Yes it's a psychological issue but certainly not a problem.

Then people who are hard to please have a psychological issue, too, right?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ScardyFox on Feb 13, 2013, 08:52:36 AM
Quote from: And stuff on Feb 13, 2013, 08:47:55 AM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Feb 13, 2013, 08:46:32 AM
Quote from: And stuff on Feb 13, 2013, 08:43:09 AM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Feb 13, 2013, 08:40:21 AM
Liking the game doesn't mean you're physiological unstable - it simply means people like it.

Or that the people who enjoy it are much easier to please.

And who are you to make that judgment call?

It's fact.  Not an opinion, lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyRHHlt3M# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyRHHlt3M#)



Technically speaking, if we're bringing reviews, its scored more so towards the middle of the road or slightly above. Not horrific. That said I've said my piece, its a fan review - I don't particularly want to drag it into a running battle of attrition soaking up several pages of thread with back and forths.   
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Jonesy23 on Feb 13, 2013, 08:52:45 AM
I mostly enjoy a game when I actually have it in my hands and played it before and If I pick it back up in a couple months time, then that's great just another part of life to enjoy. If I don't pick it up again, then it simply wasn't for me and I move on. I didn't enjoy Black Ops 2 but I'm not going to say people who do like it are in denial.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: And stuff on Feb 13, 2013, 08:54:25 AM
Quote from: Prime113 on Feb 13, 2013, 08:52:14 AM
Quote from: And stuff on Feb 13, 2013, 08:51:21 AM
Quote from: Jonesy23 on Feb 13, 2013, 08:48:17 AM
I gotta go with ScardyFox on this one. Are you saying I have some kind of psychological problem and denial issues because I like this game and not a game like Black Ops 2?

I think they're just saying folks are easy to please.  Yes it's a psychological issue but certainly not a problem.

Then people who are hard to please have a psychological issue, too, right?

Yes, we all do.  Do you know what "psychological " means?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Jonesy23 on Feb 13, 2013, 08:55:42 AM
I think we just all need to stop at a certain point, or this thread's going to go on forever. This is a stalemate, people aren't going to change their opinions. That's the end of it.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: And stuff on Feb 13, 2013, 08:56:41 AM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Feb 13, 2013, 08:52:36 AM
Quote from: And stuff on Feb 13, 2013, 08:47:55 AM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Feb 13, 2013, 08:46:32 AM
Quote from: And stuff on Feb 13, 2013, 08:43:09 AM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Feb 13, 2013, 08:40:21 AM
Liking the game doesn't mean you're physiological unstable - it simply means people like it.

Or that the people who enjoy it are much easier to please.

And who are you to make that judgment call?

It's fact.  Not an opinion, lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyRHHlt3M# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyRHHlt3M#)



Technically speaking, if we're bringing reviews, its scored more so towards the middle of the road or slightly above. Not horrific. That said I've said my piece, its a fan review - I don't particularly want to drag it into a running battle of attrition soaking up several pages of thread with back and forths.

If you aren't open to the idea of people having opposite opinions, then there's nothing anyone here can do to help you see it.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ScardyFox on Feb 13, 2013, 08:59:59 AM
Quote from: And stuff on Feb 13, 2013, 08:56:41 AM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Feb 13, 2013, 08:52:36 AM
Quote from: And stuff on Feb 13, 2013, 08:47:55 AM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Feb 13, 2013, 08:46:32 AM
Quote from: And stuff on Feb 13, 2013, 08:43:09 AM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Feb 13, 2013, 08:40:21 AM
Liking the game doesn't mean you're physiological unstable - it simply means people like it.

Or that the people who enjoy it are much easier to please.

And who are you to make that judgment call?

It's fact.  Not an opinion, lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyRHHlt3M# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyRHHlt3M#)



Technically speaking, if we're bringing reviews, its scored more so towards the middle of the road or slightly above. Not horrific. That said I've said my piece, its a fan review - I don't particularly want to drag it into a running battle of attrition soaking up several pages of thread with back and forths.

If you aren't open to the idea of people having opposite opinions, then there's nothing anyone here can do to help you see it.

Wait, you said its fact... not opin...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVMib1T4T4#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVMib1T4T4#ws)

OK, I'm out. :)
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Prime113 on Feb 13, 2013, 09:00:43 AM
Quote from: And stuff on Feb 13, 2013, 08:54:25 AM
Quote from: Prime113 on Feb 13, 2013, 08:52:14 AM
Quote from: And stuff on Feb 13, 2013, 08:51:21 AM
Quote from: Jonesy23 on Feb 13, 2013, 08:48:17 AM
I gotta go with ScardyFox on this one. Are you saying I have some kind of psychological problem and denial issues because I like this game and not a game like Black Ops 2?

I think they're just saying folks are easy to please.  Yes it's a psychological issue but certainly not a problem.

Then people who are hard to please have a psychological issue, too, right?

Yes, we all do.  Do you know what "psychological " means?

Oh yeah, I do. I just wanted to make sure you weren't one of those douche bags that thought his side was better than everyone elses. Then, you did kinda turn into that douche.  :-\
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: And stuff on Feb 13, 2013, 09:04:51 AM
Quote from: Prime113 on Feb 13, 2013, 09:00:43 AM
Quote from: And stuff on Feb 13, 2013, 08:54:25 AM
Quote from: Prime113 on Feb 13, 2013, 08:52:14 AM
Quote from: And stuff on Feb 13, 2013, 08:51:21 AM
Quote from: Jonesy23 on Feb 13, 2013, 08:48:17 AM
I gotta go with ScardyFox on this one. Are you saying I have some kind of psychological problem and denial issues because I like this game and not a game like Black Ops 2?

I think they're just saying folks are easy to please.  Yes it's a psychological issue but certainly not a problem.

Then people who are hard to please have a psychological issue, too, right?

Yes, we all do.  Do you know what "psychological " means?

Oh yeah, I do. I just wanted to make sure you weren't one of those douche bags that thought his side was better than everyone elses. Then, you did kinda turn into that douche.  :-\

We're all douches on forums, I'm not in denial here.  I was responding to Scardyfox because he or she seemed to think we're all on the same level as far as standards go.  We aren't - and if I needed to be a douche to get that across then so be it.   :P

Bottom line is some of us like things with higher quality, while some of us are okay without.

Edit:  And Gearbox telling us the game was going to be superb was just the icing on the cake as far as expectations go.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Prime113 on Feb 13, 2013, 09:09:51 AM
Quote from: And stuff on Feb 13, 2013, 09:04:51 AM
Quote from: Prime113 on Feb 13, 2013, 09:00:43 AM
Quote from: And stuff on Feb 13, 2013, 08:54:25 AM
Quote from: Prime113 on Feb 13, 2013, 08:52:14 AM
Quote from: And stuff on Feb 13, 2013, 08:51:21 AM
Quote from: Jonesy23 on Feb 13, 2013, 08:48:17 AM
I gotta go with ScardyFox on this one. Are you saying I have some kind of psychological problem and denial issues because I like this game and not a game like Black Ops 2?

I think they're just saying folks are easy to please.  Yes it's a psychological issue but certainly not a problem.

Then people who are hard to please have a psychological issue, too, right?

Yes, we all do.  Do you know what "psychological " means?

Oh yeah, I do. I just wanted to make sure you weren't one of those douche bags that thought his side was better than everyone elses. Then, you did kinda turn into that douche.  :-\

We're all douches on forums, I'm not in denial here.  I was responding to Scardyfox because he or she seemed to think we're all on the same level as far as standards go.  We aren't - and if I needed to be a douche to get that across then so be it.   :P

Bottom line is some of us like things with higher quality, while some of us are okay without.

Well, I like things of high quality too - Halo 4, Mass Effect 3, Kansas City BBQ, Dredd(2012). Are the games I mentioned better than ACM? You bet your stuffy ass they are, but I have enjoyed my time with ACM, and probably will for as long as this site has people playing it on the 360.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Salt The Fries on Feb 13, 2013, 09:10:22 AM
Quote from: SiL on Feb 13, 2013, 08:33:50 AM
No; agreeing with a comment that states the game was never marketed as anything other than mediocre dictates denial. They were clearly gearing this up as hot shit; it isn't; saying that they never hyped it up in the first place is the denial.

This guy totally got the point across.

Quote from: ScardyFox on Feb 13, 2013, 08:30:34 AM
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Feb 13, 2013, 08:23:58 AM
The level of denial is so enormous it's not even funny. But in the end this exact psychological mechanism that drives you to the denial and excuses is very well documented, it always goes to the stage of making constant excuses to repress initial expectations to make yourself feel better.



A difference of opinion on enjoyment in a videogame dictates denial? Nice two-bit presumption clearly based on several years of clinical psychological studies run by such an esteemed psychologist such as yourself.

Got any more advice for us, life coach?
This guy, however, by missing (or avoiding deliberately) the point entirely just reinforced what I just said.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: SiL on Feb 13, 2013, 10:49:28 AM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Feb 13, 2013, 08:40:21 AM
No. Insinuating that people who like the game somehow showcase a state of denial is ridiculous.
I agree completely.

Which is why no-one said that.

That you like the game is irrelevant every bit as much that it's irrelevant that I didn't liked it. The point is the comment was made that Gearbox never said this was going to be any sort of big deal and that people had much too high expectations considering what the marketing and interviews said. That is the denial; saying they weren't making a big deal of it when they clearly were.

If you liked it, more power to you. You get a game you enjoy and don't feel you wasted time and or money. But to say people's expectations were unfounded by what was said pre-release?

Well, that's a river in Egypt.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Aceburster on Feb 13, 2013, 11:23:05 AM
Just finished it. I gotta say that I think they took the crappiest parts of the game and stuck em up front because it slowly gets better. Its not perfect or even far above average for lots of reasons but it turned out to be more fun than annoying. : ) 6/10 final verdict. Better marine SP than AvP2010 but thats not saying much imo.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Elicas on Feb 13, 2013, 11:56:40 AM
Honestly, y'all make me think of the BDSM community. Some people like taking it up the arse with a rusty spike while being whipped and beaten, f**k some people even pay for the experience.

The majority of people don't.

Anyone, anyone at all, defending Gearboxes treatment of this game deserves the f**king inept fanwank bullshit that the games industry shits out on a bi-weekly basis with no chance at getting a solid Aliens game.

I think the denial part comes from the people saying things like:

Quote from: Uncanny Psycho on Feb 13, 2013, 12:56:30 AM
People are being WAYYYYYYYYY to over critical. What the f**k were people expecting the next BIG THING! Its exactly how it was marketed out to be..... People complain to complain. ITS NOT THAT BAD!

Mark my words in a weeks time there will be a patch out for some side textures and AI boost!

Gearbox marketed this as the next big thing, arguing that it would make a film in the original trilogy a "better film" and that this game would rectify all the ill's the Aliens franchise had suffered over the last fifteen years. It doesn't, near universal hatred strongly suggests just how shit this game is.

Quote from: Bugnubbinz on Feb 13, 2013, 05:18:06 AM
New here, but not to the Aliens franchise.

I got my pre-ordered copy of the game today, and have played through half of the campaign as well as trying out each of the multiplayer modes.

While IGN and Metacritic will have you believe that this is a terrible game with graphical issues and poor presentation, let me dispel any apprehension you may have right now. THIS GAME IS FANTASTIC!!

Critics are misguidedly looking for the next-gen FPS CoD-killer, whereas die-hard Aliens fans will be looking for a true sequel to James Cameron's Aliens. This game represents that, more than any movie-adapted video game I've ever played. Aliens: Colonial Marines is a stalwart example of atmosphere and story done right. With a wonderfully-crafted narrative and a deep, tension-driven, and exciting campaign just ooooooozing with all the fan service and spine-shuddering chills that we've been waiting for with an Aliens franchise game. No true fan will should be disappointed.

Gameplay-wise, you're looking at a campaign mode filled with tight shooting, dark corridors, and some superb voice acting including the return of several actors from Aliens including Lance Hendrickson and Michael Biehn. Weapons feel powerful and accurate, the arsenal of the true badasses that the Colonial Marines are (with the one notable exception of the Assault Rifle...with its wimpy 3-round burst, ineffectual sound design, and the fact that it's completely extraneous since the Pulse Rifle is better in every way). The sound design is dead-on, with everything from doors opening to motion tracker pings to pulse rifle blasts sounding exactly like their movie counterparts.

As for the Multiplayer (otherwise known as "why I will keep playing this game after i'm done with the 6-hour campaign"), the game offers some great sustainability in the way of many different game modes (all of which are teams of xenos vs. teams of marines; some of which the marines have only 1 life while xenos respawn constantly) and a TON of unlockable content for customizing your weapons and armor, xeno attacks, and appearance for both sides. The game modes offer a varied assortment of objectives and gameplay styles, and are a ton of fun.

As for the downsides....which every game has. As of today, the communications aspect of multiplayer is buggy (I tried chatting multiple times and the mike connection only worked about 1/3 of the time). There seems to be some lag or frame stuttering during mutliplayer matches during the downtime between rounds, but i'm not sure what caused it. All in all, any issues are minor compared to just how fun the game is!

The Verdict: 8.9/10 for me, the best Aliens game of the last fifteen years.

This game is neither fantastic, well made nor a suitable follow up to Aliens. Try harder Randy.

Edit: Or even this, from the official reviews thread.

Quote from: Apex on Feb 13, 2013, 08:55:23 AM
I mean, come on!

If you are a real fan, you should be happy that you got a game.

Be happy that you got a game based on a movie from the 80s... Correct me if I'm wrong, but that doesn't happen to often.

Be happy you got an Aliens only, not predator game.

Be happy you shoot Hick's Shotgun, Hudson's Pulse Rifle, and Vasquez's Pistol.

Be happy you can choose what finishing move you preform as a Xeno!

If you won't even play it, then don't call yourself a real fan.

I'd rather this story be canon than Prometheus. Not dissing the film, it was amazing, but I prefer it not to be canon.

Stop bitching and be grateful with what you have,


We should be happy, they made a shitty game, because it has authentic weapons. We should be happy because it's based on a film from the 80's. we should be happy, because if we don't like this film we're not a true fan. WE SHOULD BE f**kING HAPPY FOR THIS DAMNIT!

Denial, or delusional.

Or both.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: HappyAlien on Feb 13, 2013, 12:04:24 PM
Hopefully I'll have some fun with this game when i play with my friends on multiplayer. I think the main point to me is that i love the first two Aliens films and was hoping for a good or very good game based on them. Seeing the quality of some other FPS i was just hoping for something similar in an Aliens game. for the amount of time that was spent on this game what we got is not very good. If this game was not connected to the aliens franchise i wonder how many people would have bought a game of this quality. I probably wouldn't have but i'm an Aliens whore!


I remember when they brought out the first Star Wars prequel i was a huge fan and the trailer looked great and even after seeing that piece of garbage i insisted to my friends it was a good film took me a few days to realize it wasn't and now i see The Phantom menace for what it is. While this game is no where near as bad as the Phantom Menace, it has too many flaws for a 2013 game when developers should know the XBOX and PS3 inside out. Firaxis were given a much tougher job with creating Xcom (strategy game) for a modern FPS loving audience and look what they brought out. Creating a FPS based on Aliens is a much easier task. Maybe Firaxis should make an Xcom like game based on Aliens universe might be good!

Here are some things that i believe could have made a better Colonial Marines game.

1. Don't worry about being canon and setting the game where the film was set. Set it on a different planet with a bigger colony with a bigger diversity in environment. Maybe a colony where some of the planets environment has been changed some of it still looks like lv426 but some of it has been terraformed (of course include a derelict). Maybe have a prison planet like Alien 3 or gateway station as well in some missions.

2. Change up the gameplay. Some of the missions are going to be corridor shooters like COD that's the nature of Aliens (its mostly set in corridors mostly), but maybe mix in some sandbox missions. Maybe get to play as a colonist in some missions who has no weapons and has to outwit and evade the aliens and use traps to kill them you can fit into air vents that marines cannot  so you can go through levels they cannot. In some missions play as the drop ship pilot gunning down aliens like the c130 or drive the APC around.

3. Better enemy/weapons variety. They could have added some space jockey weapons to make it more interesting think of the gravity gun in District 9 could come up with a whole bunch of interesting alien weapons. Weyland Yutani could have been more than just the same looking guy in white armor. Could have had synthetic marines and spec op troops with the spec ops androids being more advanced androids who are faster and strong plus carry more advanced weaponry. Some of your own troops could also be traitors or company androids like Ash who turn on you and wipe out your team members.

4. Instead of messing with the films  original story lines  have some missions set in the actual films. Ok instead of bringing back characters who are thought to be dead, have some flashback missions like they did in Modern Warfare. Get to play as Ripley on the Nostromo alone with the Alien. Play as Hicks armed with only a shotgun when the go into the hive in Aliens. Have a mission as Newt escaping the Aliens. You can have a whole game based on a whole new colony and other worlds plus have missions directly from the films like Spec ops in MW2 and MW3. I always wanted to play a game on the Nostromo creepy as hell! 


5. Clean up the graphics and glitches. While i don't need perfect graphics since the XBOX and PS3 have been out for so long its not hard to make a game look nice and polished on both platforms, look at Rage.


6. End the game with the promise of the sequel being set on Earth overrun by Aliens and maybe a mission to the home planet of the aliens like the comics and novels. Don't worry about Prometheus the aliens can have their own home world in a video game and if its not canon just as long as its a good game.


There are so many things they can do to make a great Aliens FPS. When people really care about the license they are working on you get games like Batman Arkham Asylum followed by the even better Arkham City. I think we all want an Aliens game that does for Aliens what those two games did for Batman. Or what Firaxis did for Xcom or what Bethesda did for the Fallout series.

The first two films are so loved and admired by many of us and we deserve a game of the same quality and those making it would make a lot of money as well just from making an aliens game that was a true AAA title. Well least i have been enjoying it a bit more than AVP 2010.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Space Sweeper on Feb 13, 2013, 12:09:53 PM
Quote from: And stuff on Feb 13, 2013, 08:54:25 AM
Quote from: Prime113 on Feb 13, 2013, 08:52:14 AM
Quote from: And stuff on Feb 13, 2013, 08:51:21 AM
Quote from: Jonesy23 on Feb 13, 2013, 08:48:17 AM
I gotta go with ScardyFox on this one. Are you saying I have some kind of psychological problem and denial issues because I like this game and not a game like Black Ops 2?
I think they're just saying folks are easy to please.  Yes it's a psychological issue but certainly not a problem.
Then people who are hard to please have a psychological issue, too, right?
Yes, we all do.  Do you know what "psychological " means?
I think we should focus more on the term "psychological issue".

Here's one for you (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder).
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Elicas on Feb 13, 2013, 12:16:54 PM
Quote from: HappyAlien on Feb 13, 2013, 12:04:24 PM
I remember when they brought out the first Star Wars prequel i was a huge fan and the trailer looked great and even after seeing that piece of garbage i insisted to my friends it was a good film took me a few days to realize it wasn't and now i see The Phantom menace for what it is. While this game is no where near as bad as the Phantom Menace, it has too many flaws for a 2013 game when developers should know the XBOX and PS3 inside out. Firaxis were given a much tougher job with creating Xcom (strategy game) for a modern FPS loving audience and look what they brought out. Creating a FPS based on Aliens is a much easier task. Maybe Firaxis should make an Xcom like game based on Aliens universe might be good!

Hicks being alive = Midichlorians. It's a similar level of fail, each as bad as the other.

Actually, I'd rather watch the lovey dover scenes between Hayden and Natalie from 2+3 rather than play A:CM, and they were ball shrinkingly cringe worthy to watch.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: SPECIAL FORCES on Feb 13, 2013, 12:22:12 PM
Finished almost half of it.IMO one of the reasons it is not scary is because till now i'm always with other marines to ''help'' me.
Never felt alone and desperate on a hostile environment.

If the Xeno AI was good and you didn't play so long with other marines,it would have been a decent game.
I wouldnt care for the bugs and the low graphics.Same for the fact the Xenos seem to have low HP.It would have been covered by the good AI.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: teras on Feb 13, 2013, 12:47:52 PM
Quote from: Bugnubbinz on Feb 13, 2013, 05:18:06 AM
New here, but not to the Aliens franchise.

I got my pre-ordered copy of the game today, and have played through half of the campaign as well as trying out each of the multiplayer modes.

While IGN and Metacritic will have you believe that this is a terrible game with graphical issues and poor presentation, let me dispel any apprehension you may have right now. THIS GAME IS FANTASTIC!!

Critics are misguidedly looking for the next-gen FPS CoD-killer, whereas die-hard Aliens fans will be looking for a true sequel to James Cameron's Aliens. This game represents that, more than any movie-adapted video game I've ever played. Aliens: Colonial Marines is a stalwart example of atmosphere and story done right. With a wonderfully-crafted narrative and a deep, tension-driven, and exciting campaign just ooooooozing with all the fan service and spine-shuddering chills that we've been waiting for with an Aliens franchise game. No true fan will should be disappointed.

Gameplay-wise, you're looking at a campaign mode filled with tight shooting, dark corridors, and some superb voice acting including the return of several actors from Aliens including Lance Hendrickson and Michael Biehn. Weapons feel powerful and accurate, the arsenal of the true badasses that the Colonial Marines are (with the one notable exception of the Assault Rifle...with its wimpy 3-round burst, ineffectual sound design, and the fact that it's completely extraneous since the Pulse Rifle is better in every way). The sound design is dead-on, with everything from doors opening to motion tracker pings to pulse rifle blasts sounding exactly like their movie counterparts.

As for the Multiplayer (otherwise known as "why I will keep playing this game after i'm done with the 6-hour campaign"), the game offers some great sustainability in the way of many different game modes (all of which are teams of xenos vs. teams of marines; some of which the marines have only 1 life while xenos respawn constantly) and a TON of unlockable content for customizing your weapons and armor, xeno attacks, and appearance for both sides. The game modes offer a varied assortment of objectives and gameplay styles, and are a ton of fun.

As for the downsides....which every game has. As of today, the communications aspect of multiplayer is buggy (I tried chatting multiple times and the mike connection only worked about 1/3 of the time). There seems to be some lag or frame stuttering during mutliplayer matches during the downtime between rounds, but i'm not sure what caused it. All in all, any issues are minor compared to just how fun the game is!

The Verdict: 8.9/10 for me, the best Aliens game of the last fifteen years.

You are being sarcastic right? Right?  ???
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: YutaniDitch on Feb 13, 2013, 01:01:50 PM
Hello there, guys...

I have played it yesterday and it took me a day to muster all of it...

First thing is this game proved I am truly an Aliens nerd... I loved seeing the litle details like the names of the Marines we loved in the lockers... I loved watching the Sulaco, seeing the interiors of it... Loved Hadley's Hope and the vistas of LV-426... The graphics were not great, but to me, they got the point across... I was expecting a better graphics game, especially from the trailers and all, but I have to say that from day one, from the very first day I heard they were doing this game, I was skeptical for just this reason: having played Alien Trilogy on Sega Saturn, and knowing already this was taking place post-ALIENS movie, so, no Atmospheric Processor, LV-426 is ruins and so on and so forth, I think they went the only way they could: spending some time on the Sulaco, spending some time on LV-426, expanding it (IMHO, not so credibly so) to an obscure Weyland-Yutani facility annexed to the Space Jockey (aka Engineer) ship... And that is about it, really... I don't understand what fans were really expecting from a game that reduced it's scope so dramatically by calling itself 'a sequel to Aliens'... Maybe I am just being over-positive about it, but I was pleasantly surprised given I had such low hopes going into the game, except for the feeling of walking around Hadley's Hope or the Sulaco or the Jockey's ship... Or seing the four ejected pods on the Sulaco... That was cool... Those were great moments and I am always replaying those levels... Hoorah to ashes...

Also, whenever we see way too many graphical stills and no in-game shots, you should worry... That was my second hint...

About the STORY, I think it was tolerable... I am a huge Alien3 fan, so
Spoiler
having Hicks alive and kicking
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is not a sequel to me, but an alternate, paralell universe... His explanation could make sense, but was a bit flimsy...

But, of course, I understand those who were expecting a lot, maybe too much, from this game... It always disappoints... I liked AVP 2010, the last game featuring my favourite monsters, and given the quality of those 2010 graphics, I can understand the frustration against this 2013 one who, I agree, has the graphical quality of a Starship Troopers game... To me, it was good enough to make me happy to see my favourite tidbits of the movie - Hadley's Hope, Operations (seeing everywhere our favourite characters went was a great feeling; which is what these games are all about)...

Would I have preferred this game with the AVP 2010 graphics? Of course! But we must bear in mind that AVP 2010 is one of the benchmarks for graphical quality, meaning that most may computers may not come to specs... I am lucky, having a top of the line one, but I am aware that many, if not most, may not have... And I should add that, for instance, the Nest bits were better than in AVP 2010, because it had that cool shading effect the AVP 2010 did not have...

Regarding the Xenos, The AI was all over the place, alternating between the good and the awful intrinsically, which means that they were chaotic... The huggers gave back the fear the first AVP game had, even though you could fight it off (sometimes, I couldn't click fast enough and it was game over, man! HAHAHA). The Human enemies were a nice addition vor variety, and I disliked the Berserker and the Spitting Aliens, being two creatures that never existed before! So, unless they had elephants or rhinos on that planet, the Berserker makes absolutely no sense! But we had the Paetorians before in AVP, so... Also, the scarinness factor was clearly sacrificed for action, and since Aliens was more of an action movie with almost IMHO zero scarinness, I think this game followed that movie's choice of action over fear...

So, I will stop here for now, as this post is already enormous, and there are many things to be said about the music (great, best part of the game)...

Cheers!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: AcidGlow on Feb 13, 2013, 01:19:15 PM
This game blows.. end of story.

Now if you'll excuse me.. I need to go play a kickass multiplayer match of Aliens vs Predator 3 (2010)!!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: YutaniDitch on Feb 13, 2013, 01:55:04 PM
As many of you have pointed out to me, some hate, some love, some are okay about it... I am in the last group...

It has it's flaws, it's strengths, but like I said, it pays off if you go with low hopes as I did...

I remember people saying the same thing about AVP 2010, that it also failed, and now, they think it is better than ACM... So, at the very least, this game made people think differently regarding AVP 2010...  :P


Many games, like movies, work by comparison... To me, ACM would be perfect if it had better graphics, but then, it would take an enormous amount of hard drive space and a vast quantity of memory and processing power to play it, so I take my wins where I can... You CAN see the love of the material spread across the game, but I agree, for the time it took for them to make the game, it ought to be better looking than this... It reminds me of the Messiah game, actually... or Duke Nukem Forever... Way too much time in production means they are gonna downgrade it eventually... The graphics on the promotional stills often showed a quality that if we had the entire game on those visuals, the game would be brutal, but also incredibly heavy specs-wise... I wonder if that is what made them downgrade the graphics like that...

And regarding Gearbox's bravado, of course, they would over-sell their product!!! That is predictable as hell! I would be surprised if their CEO or MArketing Rep would say =don't buy this game, it sucks'! I watched one of Gearbox talking about it and surely he sounded like an Aliens geek like me! However, he failed to realise that the tidbits he liked about Aliens may not be the ones most of us do, and what I like about Aliens differ not only from me to anyone else, but even through time, my views evolve and somewhat change... I for instance, disliked Alien when I first saw it... Now, ten times after, I love it! It is all a matter of open mindness, especially having bought the game! HAHAHA 

OK, so to many, it blows... I am sorry, because it means you wasted your money... I can say I got my money's worth, especially with the PC version, which is less expensive than a console one, and also adaptable to the video card, memory and processor of the unit... I am sure I paid less for a lot more graphics, having skimmed through the console youtube reviews and walkthroughs... That is very low quality indeed... Because of my high-end machine, I concede on the graphics part... The story is flimsy, but it would be better and look better in an actual sequel than as a game pretending to be a sequel...

I loved Alien3 but I think this game never intended to devoid the Fincher movie... In fact, except for Hicks, it does not affect the third movie at all... He replaced his body with probably one of the first attackers and then sent the pods to the EEV... I also think the rationale behind his early awakening is credible... When attacked during hypersleep, the system automatically awakes the highest ranking officer on the ship... Now, the problem is this: the Opening credits on Alien3 clearly show huggers on board! Now, that would have to have happened between Hicks waking up and before he sent the pods to the EEV! That makes no sense as he would clearly have seen the hugger on Ripley! That is the only reason I don't think this was thought through! But it was nice to see Hicks again and even better, having Michael Biehn speaking the lines! And as always, One of my fave actors, Lance Henriksen, back to play! That guy has the greatest voice in HOllywood, followed closely by Michael Wincott (Elgyn from Alien Resurrection)...

So, these are my reason why I liked, though not loved, the game... It was worth the money, it is worth going back and replay it... I liked the add-ons to the gear, the paint jobs, etc... There are good things in the game... Nothing is ever all bad in my book... But I understand people who were expecting much more... I sure wasn't, hence why I was somewhat pleased with the results...

Cheers, guys!


Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: teras on Feb 13, 2013, 02:08:08 PM
Quote from: YutaniDitch on Feb 13, 2013, 01:55:04 PM
As many of you have pointed out to me, some hate, some love, some are okay about it... I am in the last group...

It has it's flaws, it's strengths, but like I said, it pays off if you go with low hopes as I did...

I remember people saying the same thing about AVP 2010, that it also failed, and now, they think it is better than ACM... So, at the very least, this game made people think differently regarding AVP 2010...  :P


Many games, like movies, work by comparison... To me, ACM would be perfect if it had better graphics, but then, it would take an enormous amount of hard drive space and a vast quantity of memory and processing power to play it, so I take my wins where I can... You CAN see the love of the material spread across the game, but I agree, for the time it took for them to make the game, it ought to be better looking than this... It reminds me of the Messiah game, actually... or Duke Nukem Forever... Way too much time in production means they are gonna downgrade it eventually... The graphics on the promotional stills often showed a quality that if we had the entire game on those visuals, the game would be brutal, but also incredibly heavy specs-wise... I wonder if that is what made them downgrade the graphics like that...

And regarding Gearbox's bravado, of course, they would over-sell their product!!! That is predictable as hell! I would be surprised if their CEO or MArketing Rep would say =don't buy this game, it sucks'! I watched one of Gearbox talking about it and surely he sounded like an Aliens geek like me! However, he failed to realise that the tidbits he liked about Aliens may not be the ones most of us do, and what I like about Aliens differ not only from me to anyone else, but even through time, my views evolve and somewhat change... I for instance, disliked Alien when I first saw it... Now, ten times after, I love it! It is all a matter of open mindness, especially having bought the game! HAHAHA 

OK, so to many, it blows... I am sorry, because it means you wasted your money... I can say I got my money's worth, especially with the PC version, which is less expensive than a console one, and also adaptable to the video card, memory and processor of the unit... I am sure I paid less for a lot more graphics, having skimmed through the console youtube reviews and walkthroughs... That is very low quality indeed... Because of my high-end machine, I concede on the graphics part... The story is flimsy, but it would be better and look better in an actual sequel than as a game pretending to be a sequel...

I loved Alien3 but I think this game never intended to devoid the Fincher movie... In fact, except for Hicks, it does not affect the third movie at all... He replaced his body with probably one of the first attackers and then sent the pods to the EEV... I also think the rationale behind his early awakening is credible... When attacked during hypersleep, the system automatically awakes the highest ranking officer on the ship... Now, the problem is this: the Opening credits on Alien3 clearly show huggers on board! Now, that would have to have happened between Hicks waking up and before he sent the pods to the EEV! That makes no sense as he would clearly have seen the hugger on Newt! That is the only reason I don't think this was thought through! But it was nice to see Hicks again and even better, having Michael Biehn speaking the lines! And as always, One of my fave actors, Lance Henriksen, back to play! That guy has the greatest voice in HOllywood, followed closely by Michael Wincott (Elgyn from Alien Resurrection)...

So, these are my reason why I liked, though not loved, the game... It was worth the money, it is worth going back and replay it... I liked the add-ons to the gear, the paint jobs, etc... There are good things in the game... Nothing is ever all bad in my book... But I understand people who were expecting much more... I sure wasn't, hence why I was somewhat pleased with the results...

Cheers, guys!

Sorry, this is absolutely wrong!

It is a linear action FPS. All the similar nature games are better looking than this on the consoles.
All the COD games starting from the first Modern Warfare, all the Halos, Crysis 2 and the upcoming 3, the PS3 Killzones etc.
Heck, even the Far Cry games that are non-linear sandbox games with dynamic worlds are looking much better than this.
This is U3 engine at it's worst. A competent and sometimes impressive engine DOWNGRADED to look like U2.

It's one thing to enjoy what you can from the game like I do as well and another to conjure false excuses  :(


Read this:

http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=47277.msg1613340#msg1613340 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=47277.msg1613340#msg1613340)
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Dusk on Feb 13, 2013, 02:17:25 PM
Quote from: YutaniDitch on Feb 13, 2013, 01:55:04 PM
I remember people saying the same thing about AVP 2010, that it also failed, and now, they think it is better than ACM... So, at the very least, this game made people think differently regarding AVP 2010...  :P

AvP may have failed, but that's because it couldn't live up two the last two games. At worst, it was a mediocre gaming experience. But there wasn't really anything entirely terrible about it, the games was polished, it just lacked ambition. A:CM on the other hand, is simply a broken and unfinished mess. Other than AvP, it seems to be overambitious, but fails even at fundamental levels of game design. 
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Vezner on Feb 13, 2013, 02:25:21 PM
Now that I've played some, though not all, of the SP and a lot of MP, I can honestly say that the critical reviews of ACM are being way too harsh. IMO this game deserves a 6.5 out of 10 going off of IGN's scale.

Is ACM a polished game like Halo 4? No, but it's certainly a fun shooter that is worth a purchase IMO. I like the MP character customization options, the weapons, the sounds, and the game-play in general (coop campaign is a blast and I'm loving all MP modes!). I've encountered a handful of bugs of course but none of them were game breaking for me. I don't think that the AI is nearly as bad as some people say though it could certainly be better. I don't think that the graphics are horrible though I understand why some people feel that it's dated when they compare the game to something like Halo 4. In the end, the fun game-play completely trumps any lack of graphical quality IMO.

In the end, I have been having a lot of fun with this game and I plan on playing it solidly for some time to come. For people that hate this game, it's too bad that you're not able to see the qualities that this game brings. I hope that you're willing to give the game a chance and allow Gearbox some time to fix the bugs that bother you so much. I have a feeling that they'll fix most of them. However if you're all hung up on the graphics, SP story, and/or the "lack of innovation" in the MP, I guess there's nothing that will satisfy you. I guess you can go back to CoD 20 or Halo 4 for your "innovative" game-play. ;)


Quote from: Dusk on Feb 13, 2013, 02:17:25 PM
Quote from: YutaniDitch on Feb 13, 2013, 01:55:04 PM
I remember people saying the same thing about AVP 2010, that it also failed, and now, they think it is better than ACM... So, at the very least, this game made people think differently regarding AVP 2010...  :P

AvP may have failed, but that's because it couldn't live up two the last two games. At worst, it was a mediocre gaming experience. But there wasn't really anything entirely terrible about it, the games was polished, it just lacked ambition. A:CM on the other hand, is simply a broken and unfinished mess. Other than AvP, it seems to be overambitious, but fails even at fundamental levels of game design.

"Polished"? Don't get me wrong, AVP was certainly a fun game in it's own way but they released it with the MP in beta (it literally said "beta" when you would load it up for the first few weeks after release lol). "Polished" is hardly the word I would use to describe that. lol
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Cal427eb on Feb 13, 2013, 02:43:54 PM
I don't think "fun gameplay"are the words I would use to describe A:CM. Lulz
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Crazy Rich on Feb 13, 2013, 03:53:16 PM
My thoughts on the campaign.

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I believe I have one more mission to pull off but here it goes. I believe the campaign definately isn't very great at all but I also think it isn't that bad. As I once put before "people are crying over a wound that looks worse than it actually is". But hey, there is a wound, you can have a point for that, but I ain't got time to bleed.

For starters, this isn't something I'd want as a true canon sequel to Alien 3, but hey it's a video game so because of this I didn't take such claims too seriously, in hind sight this was probably a very smart move. The graphics could definately use a lot of work but you know what, I won't dwell on it because I'm a gameplay > graphics kinda guy... mostly. I feel the story could be so much better but on the bright side I'm enjoying the basic adventure, surviving aliens and mercs with a pump-action shotgun from the Sulaco to LV-426, I'm having fun with it.

There were pretty intense and fun moments, such as sneaking by Boilers or witnessing a Queen trying to break free, but there was some pretty underwhelming moments too, one of the big attractions I was looking forward to was an encounter with the Crusher as I actually like the idea of such a creature, but when I met him, then figured out how to kill him without dying I thought to myself "That was it?" Why wasn't there some sort of a sub-plot with the Crusher? Like with that other guy eariler in the campaign you had to finish with the power loader (that guy made my spine shiver a few times)? One thing I will give this game is that the videos made it look easy, when I charged my first mercs with a shotgun and got killed pretty fast with full health and armour I was like ".... that just happened". But I at least caught on to their ways and could devastate them later but sprinting and using cover so that I got close enough to one shot kill with my pump-action shotgun. One enemy I actually enjoy is the Lurker, but I caught on to his ways too. But another underwhelming moment was the fight with the Queen in which you just had to survive, all I had to do was stay in a big cargo box and shoot at an invincible Queen, when she ran off I felt like something was unfinished.

Characters, not awesome but not bad either, I actually enjoyed the characters more in this game than I did in AvP2010. It's also pretty awesome to fight along side Corporal Hicks later, in one perspective at least. I want to buy his character story wise but I don't know... maybe I'll feel something more decisive later but right now I have mixed feelings. But as far as gameplay, fun and nostalgia go it's pretty damn sweet to be beside him. It's also pretty nice to see a Bishop voiced by Lance.

To be continued I guess. Gotta eat lunch then go to a provincial park to study the identification of trees for about 4 hours. College calls. When I get home in the end of the day I got one more mission to do.
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Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Elicas on Feb 13, 2013, 04:05:15 PM
Quote from: Smokeyrelic on Feb 13, 2013, 03:34:51 PM
Alien Colonial Marines is one the best games iv played in years. The co-op alone is what gaming should be. All the crying brat boys on this forum, can frolic in daisies in Halo or whatever game your bad at, while Im knee deep in nuclear sewage water whith my eltronic sonic ballbreaker. In closing you all are bad at games, and stay off ACM server cause your gibbed bodies are slowin me down

In that case the only games you've played in the last few years could be one rated below a 4, since this is one of the best you've played and is currently sitting on an average of 46% across the three platforms (50 on XBOX, 46 PS3 and 44 PC, add them up and divide by 300 for the average) and that is with a couple of ridiculously overblown 80%-90% grades given from a couple of hack journalists. Without those, this would be sitting in the high 30% grade range.

Duke Nuken Forever, commonly regarded as the biggest disappointment in gaming for the last fifteen year, is currently sitting on an average of 51%. (51% PS3, 54% PC and 49% XBOX) That's a full 5% behind DNF on the average scores across the board, and even then it's being propped up by such noted gaming columns as Forbes and the Guardian.

Face facts, your fanboys wet dream is a f**king disgrace to gaming.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Effectz on Feb 13, 2013, 04:20:53 PM
Smokeyrelic is one of those guys who Total Biscuit talked about in his pre-order video,the guy who likes the game no matter if it's utter shit will like the game because it's Aliens.He parted with his cash and all the reviewers are wrong,everyone on here is wrong and he is right.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: RagingDragon on Feb 13, 2013, 04:36:16 PM
I'm gonna sit right here on the fence :laugh: I agree that this is a bad game, a linear, buggy, hideously ugly game, but I don't think it deserves no 2 out of 10. Scores like that are absurd, and echo some of the most harped on flaws of the fans themselves: having expectations so high that they take out their anger on the game we've got.

The multiplayer does do a great job of keeping people playing, and the issues are all things that can be patched.

I could care less about the campaign, or this 'true sequel/canon' crap we've been prepared with. Just ditch that idea and view this as a run-of-the-mill Aliens title and it immediately gets a little better. There are lots of games with bad campaigns, look at the Battlefield series (though a bad comparison to make, I suppose, seeing the bulk of the game is the mp, but ya get my point I hope.)

Glad your havin fun, Rich. I'm grinding my way through the campaign, and was surprised by the WY sections honestly. I thought I was going to be bored and groaning, but their AI is no different than any of the morons in the CoD campaigns. Neither are your AI buddies!

I've recently had several AI comrades do just as retarded and unpredictable things in Black Ops 2. Running in front of me constantly, running past enemies and not shooting them, standing next to enemies, etc... No different. I don't find it a lot different than any modern game, except for the insane lack of polish that screams of a rushed product.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Effectz on Feb 13, 2013, 04:45:06 PM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dPF8jpItCs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dPF8jpItCs#ws)

Best thing to come out of the game.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Predaker on Feb 13, 2013, 05:27:41 PM
After playing some of the campaign, it is painfully obvious that development for A:CM was a train wreck. I haven't finished the whole story yet but some of the dialogue made me cringe. The motion tracker is a thing of beauty and the attention to detail there is second to none, IMO. Somebody poured a lot of love into this game and it really shows at times.

The multiplayer is awesome so far. It took me about 30 seconds to figure out the basic xenomorph controls before I was able to leap around between walls and ceilings fairly easily. It still needs some polish though and it would have been nice if there were more maps at launch.

I am disappointed the game feels like an unfinished product. Fortunately the multiplayer is decent because I love playing online and that is where I was going to spend most of my time in this game anyway.

Much love fellow fans.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: And stuff on Feb 13, 2013, 05:31:14 PM
Quote from: Effectz on Feb 13, 2013, 04:20:53 PM
Smokeyrelic is one of those guys who Total Biscuit talked about in his pre-order video,the guy who likes the game no matter if it's utter shit will like the game because it's Aliens.He parted with his cash and all the reviewers are wrong,everyone on here is wrong and he is right.

Sounds like a stand up guy  :D


Quote from: Space Sweeper on Feb 13, 2013, 12:09:53 PM
Quote from: And stuff on Feb 13, 2013, 08:54:25 AM
Quote from: Prime113 on Feb 13, 2013, 08:52:14 AM
Quote from: And stuff on Feb 13, 2013, 08:51:21 AM
Quote from: Jonesy23 on Feb 13, 2013, 08:48:17 AM
I gotta go with ScardyFox on this one. Are you saying I have some kind of psychological problem and denial issues because I like this game and not a game like Black Ops 2?
I think they're just saying folks are easy to please.  Yes it's a psychological issue but certainly not a problem.
Then people who are hard to please have a psychological issue, too, right?
Yes, we all do.  Do you know what "psychological " means?
I think we should focus more on the term "psychological issue".

Here's one for you (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder).

Forgive me for having my own opinion and talking about it in open discussion on a forum.  I must really love myself!  :D

Get real.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: cursedMonk on Feb 13, 2013, 05:37:13 PM
I said I was going to give my review after 2 hours, but played the game till three and had to get some sleep.

I'm about half way through. This game kicks ass for fans, I lost track of time. I'm not sure if the difficulty on normal is too easy but on baddass mode it feels challenging enough. There are a few stutters and glitches, and yes alien AI is all about rushing (and a bit stupid if not stuck on the floor until you fire at it), graphics are good when kept dim. I don't see how any this cant be patched though. If not by gearbox then by fans. Its not a 5 game, not in my eyes. Solid 7 for a non fan, for me it was worth it. The first 3-4 missions alone where f**king great.

I think where the fun is had on SP is how I played, middle of the night, lights off, and my px5 turtle beach headset on full (im' on PC so maybe consoles have their own issues that make things unplayable, seems fine on PC though, other then whats already known). I'm having a blast, using the motion tracker, the sound of the pulse riffle, lots of good sights from the movie...its pretty f**king cool so far. All I can say is im having a good time with it and worth my $45 bucks. I've spent more money on dinner and a movie at the drafthouse for 3 hours, so to me its already paid itself off.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Elicas on Feb 13, 2013, 05:39:12 PM
Quote from: cursedMonk on Feb 13, 2013, 05:37:13 PM
If not by gearbox then by fans.

Dream on buddy, this game will be unmoddable.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: cursedMonk on Feb 13, 2013, 05:53:03 PM
I Dont see why a patch then, looking at the day one patch notes it dosent look like its impossible to clean up some of the AI and glitches. As far as graphics goes they are sufficient, if crysis2 can develop a texture pack and DX11 support i'm sure gearbox can, whether they will is another question.

I guess i'm just not so bent out of shape about it, i'm having fun playing it, but I realize that's my own "for whatever is worth" opinion.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Dusk on Feb 13, 2013, 06:01:25 PM
The question is, will Gearbox want to support this? Sure, they've got DLC plans, because they've already made those. But beyond that? Reviews are tearing this apart. Fans are pissed, rightfully so. They are not exactly going to make a ton of money off of this. They'll lose nothing but money trying to fix this with multiple patches.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ShadowPred on Feb 13, 2013, 06:03:08 PM
Gearbox should definitely focus on supporting this game in order to show that they care. If they just shrug this off and move on to the next thing, then you know they don't give a shit as a developer, they will have shown that they don't own up to their mistakes and don't really care about their work in the slightest.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Dusk on Feb 13, 2013, 06:11:36 PM
I wonder, will enough people be around for it to matter? I'll get it eventually, when I can get it for less than $20. But by that time, how many copies will be collecting dust, or will have been traded in?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Bjørn Half-hand on Feb 13, 2013, 06:16:12 PM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 13, 2013, 06:03:08 PM
Gearbox should definitely focus on supporting this game in order to show that they care. If they just shrug this off and move on to the next thing, then you know they don't give a shit as a developer, they will have shown that they don't own up to their mistakes and don't really care about their work in the slightest.

No idea how much support Gearbox will give this game in terms of patches etc but I'll be interested to see Randy's reactions to the all mighty kicking this games getting, remember how defensive he was about Duke Nukem (sounded downright bitter).
I'm not saying he shouldn't be upset about peoples reactions just making an ibservation re his reactions to Duke's bad reception.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ShadowPred on Feb 13, 2013, 06:21:25 PM
Quote from: Dusk on Feb 13, 2013, 06:11:36 PM
I wonder, will enough people be around for it to matter? I'll get it eventually, when I can get it for less than $20. But by that time, how many copies will be collecting dust, or will have been traded in?


Probably a lot. I myself am not even going to get this game anymore, not even for cheap or used. I'm not wasting my time and money on a game that has nothing to offer.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Dusk on Feb 13, 2013, 06:25:15 PM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 13, 2013, 06:21:25 PM
Probably a lot. I myself am not even going to get this game anymore, not even for cheap or used. I'm not wasting my time and money on a game that has nothing to offer.

Wow... now that I've seen this, I think I'm right there with you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z2qVebxlUo#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z2qVebxlUo#ws)
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: hfeldhaus on Feb 13, 2013, 06:26:02 PM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 13, 2013, 06:21:25 PM
Quote from: Dusk on Feb 13, 2013, 06:11:36 PM
I wonder, will enough people be around for it to matter? I'll get it eventually, when I can get it for less than $20. But by that time, how many copies will be collecting dust, or will have been traded in?


Probably a lot. I myself am not even going to get this game anymore, not even for cheap or used. I'm not wasting my time and money on a game that has nothing to offer.

give it a rent, its not the greatest game but its worth a try over a weekend
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: HappyAlien on Feb 13, 2013, 06:27:32 PM
i've noticed that most of the people defending this game have less than ten posts on AVP Galaxy. Did Gearbox ask its employees to join this sight in the last 24 hours to defend the game or something?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ScardyFox on Feb 13, 2013, 06:28:49 PM
Quote from: HappyAlien on Feb 13, 2013, 06:27:32 PM
i've noticed that most of the people defending this game have less than ten posts on AVP Galaxy. Did Gearbox ask its employees to join this sight in the last 24 hours to defend the game or something?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfAm38GPsGw# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfAm38GPsGw#)
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ShadowPred on Feb 13, 2013, 06:33:35 PM
Quote from: Dusk on Feb 13, 2013, 06:25:15 PM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 13, 2013, 06:21:25 PM
Probably a lot. I myself am not even going to get this game anymore, not even for cheap or used. I'm not wasting my time and money on a game that has nothing to offer.

Wow... now that I've seen this, I think I'm right there with you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z2qVebxlUo#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z2qVebxlUo#ws)


Yep, a couple of days ago I was looking at screenshots, and how the DEMO footage is far more incredible than the actual game. To be honest, people really need to sue the shit out of these guys. The only time that something like this should happen, the clear night and day differences, are very early in development. Take a look at Halo 2, the first teaser they had for it with the all the shadows and everything, NONE of that was in the actual game...and Bungie knew that it was because very early in development, they just had good ideas that wouldn't really be in the actual game. I don't think Gearbox has any f**king excuse...6 years is more than enough time to know that they wouldn't be able to fit everything they wanted.

This video you linked is further proof to me that Gearbox honestly made a terrible game on purpose...but strictly speaking on VISUALS, they honestly just made a proff of concept, I really do believe that what they showed in the DEMO was simply something to show that the game wasn't dead yet...I...I don't think I can say anymore right now...this game is truly a f**king mess.


Quote from: hfeldhaus on Feb 13, 2013, 06:26:02 PM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 13, 2013, 06:21:25 PM
Quote from: Dusk on Feb 13, 2013, 06:11:36 PM
I wonder, will enough people be around for it to matter? I'll get it eventually, when I can get it for less than $20. But by that time, how many copies will be collecting dust, or will have been traded in?


Probably a lot. I myself am not even going to get this game anymore, not even for cheap or used. I'm not wasting my time and money on a game that has nothing to offer.

give it a rent, its not the greatest game but its worth a try over a weekend


Not going to spend a penny on this game. Only time I'll ever play this game is if someone gives it to me as a gift, or I end up snatching it for free.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: hfeldhaus on Feb 13, 2013, 06:46:53 PM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 13, 2013, 06:33:35 PM
Quote from: Dusk on Feb 13, 2013, 06:25:15 PM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 13, 2013, 06:21:25 PM
Probably a lot. I myself am not even going to get this game anymore, not even for cheap or used. I'm not wasting my time and money on a game that has nothing to offer.

Wow... now that I've seen this, I think I'm right there with you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z2qVebxlUo#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z2qVebxlUo#ws)

Yep, a couple of days ago I was looking at screenshots, and how the DEMO footage is far more incredible than the actual game. To be honest, people really need to sue the shit out of these guys. The only time that something like this should happen, the clear night and day differences, are very early in development. Take a look at Halo 2, the first teaser they had for it with the all the shadows and everything, NONE of that was in the actual game...and Bungie knew that it was because very early in development, they just had good ideas that wouldn't really be in the actual game. I don't think Gearbox has any f**king excuse...6 years is more than enough time to know that they wouldn't be able to fit everything they wanted.

This video you linked is further proof to me that Gearbox honestly made a terrible game on purpose...but strictly speaking on VISUALS, they honestly just made a proff of concept, I really do believe that what they showed in the DEMO was simply something to show that the game wasn't dead yet...I...I don't think I can say anymore right now...this game is truly a f**king mess.


Quote from: hfeldhaus on Feb 13, 2013, 06:26:02 PM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 13, 2013, 06:21:25 PM
Quote from: Dusk on Feb 13, 2013, 06:11:36 PM
I wonder, will enough people be around for it to matter? I'll get it eventually, when I can get it for less than $20. But by that time, how many copies will be collecting dust, or will have been traded in?


Probably a lot. I myself am not even going to get this game anymore, not even for cheap or used. I'm not wasting my time and money on a game that has nothing to offer.

give it a rent, its not the greatest game but its worth a try over a weekend


Not going to spend a penny on this game. Only time I'll ever play this game is if someone gives it to me as a gift, or I end up snatching it for free.


Fair does. cant really blame you, its enjoyable but not the game it should be. i signed up for the game that was shown in the demo footage
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Elicas on Feb 13, 2013, 06:47:17 PM
Quote from: cursedMonk on Feb 13, 2013, 05:53:03 PM
I Dont see why a patch then, looking at the day one patch notes it dosent look like its impossible to clean up some of the AI and glitches. As far as graphics goes they are sufficient, if crysis2 can develop a texture pack and DX11 support i'm sure gearbox can, whether they will is another question.

I guess i'm just not so bent out of shape about it, i'm having fun playing it, but I realize that's my own "for whatever is worth" opinion.

So they'll patch it in then, having had a kicking and more than likely lost money on the project. How many patches would it take to get there? Half a dozen, at $40,000 a pop. Say it takes 5 patches to get where (campaign, MP, DX10/11 optimisations, HD texture pack, bug fixes) the game should be. That's $200,000 out of their margins to spend on updating a game the vast majority of people hate. Plus the cost of actually developing the patches.

You really thing that'll happen, or do you think you'll get the most cursory of updates, fix the most amount of problems they can in the fewest amount of patches to save money (most likely one large patch) and then push DLC out the door ASAP.

My money is on the later.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: YutaniDitch on Feb 13, 2013, 06:58:29 PM
Of course, you got me wrong... I play all those games you mentioned, and this game is not that but guess what, it is not supposed to be on par with those! You are trying to compare games that first of all, have had far more resources and money and man power put into them! And those companies have the best programmers and people for the job! Gearbox is not Crytek, nor Ubisoft Montreal and it is not Infinity Ward or Treyarch! So, I think and still think that you can't compare this game with those! if you do, that explains why you can't enjoy little games like these! And I say 'little' compared to the ones you mentioned!


Like I said, I enjoyed it enough and the graphics were good enough for me to enjoy the game!

Cheers!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Anonymous684 on Feb 13, 2013, 06:59:46 PM
http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/1119412561936112939/30985D7CF5F68EE9E18E8D1BF49067B53B8A2668/ (http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/1119412561936112939/30985D7CF5F68EE9E18E8D1BF49067B53B8A2668/)

So this is a screenshot from my game... where are these horrible graphics people are talking about. May I add that steams screenshot system lowers the res a bit so it actually looks even better than that!

Oh and this is the only glitch thing I have come across!
http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/1119412561936123010/247C7DC377D29976F45A6E7BD04EBD1D63F61F37/ (http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/1119412561936123010/247C7DC377D29976F45A6E7BD04EBD1D63F61F37/)
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ShadowPred on Feb 13, 2013, 07:04:16 PM
The universe has bestowed Uncanny with a great gift...a not so terrible looking game...it seems the rest of the people are truly the 99.9%

Wish everyone had the same awesome looking game, but that ain't gonna happen.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Salt The Fries on Feb 13, 2013, 07:10:16 PM
The PC version has less glitches than the console ones.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Elicas on Feb 13, 2013, 07:15:23 PM
Quote from: Uncanny Psycho on Feb 13, 2013, 06:59:46 PM
http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/1119412561936112939/30985D7CF5F68EE9E18E8D1BF49067B53B8A2668/ (http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/1119412561936112939/30985D7CF5F68EE9E18E8D1BF49067B53B8A2668/)

So this is a screenshot from my game... where are these horrible graphics people are talking about. May I add that steams screenshot system lowers the res a bit so it actually looks even better than that!

Oh and this is the only glitch thing I have come across!
http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/1119412561936123010/247C7DC377D29976F45A6E7BD04EBD1D63F61F37/ (http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/1119412561936123010/247C7DC377D29976F45A6E7BD04EBD1D63F61F37/)

You really think that's 'good' graphics?

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abload.de%2Fimg%2Favp2010-02-0317-19-27-gqgw.jpg&hash=ccf7de1f0202d95b6689169e3b0b4a4e29f19270)

This was three years ago, and at least several scales clearer and better defined. You're defending the undefendable.

Allow me to direct you to:

Quote from: Dusk on Feb 13, 2013, 06:25:15 PM
Wow... now that I've seen this, I think I'm right there with you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z2qVebxlUo#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z2qVebxlUo#ws)

This game looks like garbage.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Anonymous684 on Feb 13, 2013, 07:18:20 PM
Quote from: Elicas on Feb 13, 2013, 07:15:23 PM
Quote from: Uncanny Psycho on Feb 13, 2013, 06:59:46 PM
http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/1119412561936112939/30985D7CF5F68EE9E18E8D1BF49067B53B8A2668/ (http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/1119412561936112939/30985D7CF5F68EE9E18E8D1BF49067B53B8A2668/)

So this is a screenshot from my game... where are these horrible graphics people are talking about. May I add that steams screenshot system lowers the res a bit so it actually looks even better than that!

Oh and this is the only glitch thing I have come across!
http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/1119412561936123010/247C7DC377D29976F45A6E7BD04EBD1D63F61F37/ (http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/1119412561936123010/247C7DC377D29976F45A6E7BD04EBD1D63F61F37/)

You really think that's 'good' graphics?

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abload.de%2Fimg%2Favp2010-02-0317-19-27-gqgw.jpg&hash=ccf7de1f0202d95b6689169e3b0b4a4e29f19270)

This was three years ago, and at least several scales clearer and better defined. You're defending the undefendable.

Allow me to direct you to:

Quote from: Dusk on Feb 13, 2013, 06:25:15 PM
Wow... now that I've seen this, I think I'm right there with you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z2qVebxlUo#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z2qVebxlUo#ws)

This game looks like garbage.

The game looks just fine buddy!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ShadowPred on Feb 13, 2013, 07:19:37 PM
Not when you compare it to a year and a half ago.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Anonymous684 on Feb 13, 2013, 07:24:01 PM
its no where near as bad as people are complaining.. I cant help but to stress it enough! (I speak for the pc only)
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Dusk on Feb 13, 2013, 07:27:44 PM
I'm not trying to hate on the graphics, though it's difficult when you know what they've been advertising over a year ago. I don't always need high-end graphics, sometimes I can go for stylized. And even though it might have been unintentional, the color palette, the lighting, make it somewhat cartoonish looking. Somewhat reminiscent of AvP2.

Had this game turned out to be everything they promised us it would be, but somehow in the process the graphics took a hit, I would barely be complaining. As long as the gameplay is great and the missions are exciting, I can accept graphics that don't meet today's standard.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Effectz on Feb 13, 2013, 07:29:14 PM
I have it on pc all on highest setting.the game looks out dated and plays like a piece of shit.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Elicas on Feb 13, 2013, 07:41:13 PM
Quote from: Effectz on Feb 13, 2013, 07:29:14 PM
I have it on pc all on highest setting.the game looks out dated and plays like a piece of shit.

This man speaketh the truth.

Some fans have such an Aliens hardon, they need the game to be good, so they'll convince themselves otherwise.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Dusk on Feb 13, 2013, 07:43:38 PM
The game looks good. For 2006.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Mister T on Feb 13, 2013, 08:06:08 PM
Quote from: [T)A]DarkDragon on Feb 13, 2013, 04:34:23 AM
Quote from: Mister T on Feb 13, 2013, 12:26:16 AM
we were led to believe that it would be "canon" to the film and "a true sequel."

you believed that?

Randy Forkedtongue made that claim HUNDREDS of times and even cited the participation of many of the artists involved with Aliens back in 86.  Now I may be an old fart, but when someone tells me, repeatedly, that Aliens: Colonial Marines is the sequel to Aliens - and cites all the reasons why - I tend to trust the fact that the product I purchase will be what I was sold, and not just a bill of goods.

What we actually received was a less-than-mediocre product with absolutely AMAZING marketing.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Effectz on Feb 13, 2013, 08:06:54 PM
Perfect example is the Sephora when the Sulaco is firing at it,the main set piece is the Sephora when you look out the window on the bridge yet it looks like a giant turd especially when it's breaking up.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: stemot on Feb 13, 2013, 08:21:50 PM
Quote from: Effectz on Feb 13, 2013, 08:06:54 PM
Perfect example is the Sephora when the Sulaco is firing at it,the main set piece is the Sephora when you look out the window on the bridge yet it looks like a giant turd especially when it's breaking up.

Then a massive piece of the Sephora proceeds to clip through the front of the Sulaco on its way towards the player.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: MemphisRains on Feb 13, 2013, 08:25:09 PM
So. I finished single campaign in 6 hrs on pc yesterday and I got some fun. Honestly I think there were few really good things in it like motion tracker or smartgun, sound. Design was ok but the movies, you know. Story just...pokerface\facepalm. Grafics is dated and it Unreal 3.5? Bitch, please. But still I'm okay with it. There is no fear, suspense...Even now AvP 2 kick ass...shame) Randy can kiss my ass for all that bullshit what he spoke.

I hope this game will be a lesson for Gears)
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Anonymous684 on Feb 13, 2013, 08:26:33 PM
Quote from: Elicas on Feb 13, 2013, 07:41:13 PM
Quote from: Effectz on Feb 13, 2013, 07:29:14 PM
I have it on pc all on highest setting.the game looks out dated and plays like a piece of shit.

This man speaketh the truth.

Some fans have such an Aliens hardon, they need the game to be good, so they'll convince themselves otherwise.

Actually I doubted this game from the start.. im starting to realize maybe my hopes were nowhere near as high as everyone else hence why I truly don't mind it!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Feb 13, 2013, 08:28:25 PM
The space vessels look like shit to me. Especially the one they escape in at the end, which looks like a particularly jaunty dildo.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Bugnubbinz on Feb 13, 2013, 08:32:44 PM
Quote from: teras on Feb 13, 2013, 12:47:52 PM
Quote from: Bugnubbinz on Feb 13, 2013, 05:18:06 AM
New here, but not to the Aliens franchise.

I got my pre-ordered copy of the game today, and have played through half of the campaign as well as trying out each of the multiplayer modes.

While IGN and Metacritic will have you believe that this is a terrible game with graphical issues and poor presentation, let me dispel any apprehension you may have right now. THIS GAME IS FANTASTIC!!

Critics are misguidedly looking for the next-gen FPS CoD-killer, whereas die-hard Aliens fans will be looking for a true sequel to James Cameron's Aliens. This game represents that, more than any movie-adapted video game I've ever played. Aliens: Colonial Marines is a stalwart example of atmosphere and story done right. With a wonderfully-crafted narrative and a deep, tension-driven, and exciting campaign just ooooooozing with all the fan service and spine-shuddering chills that we've been waiting for with an Aliens franchise game. No true fan will should be disappointed.

Gameplay-wise, you're looking at a campaign mode filled with tight shooting, dark corridors, and some superb voice acting including the return of several actors from Aliens including Lance Hendrickson and Michael Biehn. Weapons feel powerful and accurate, the arsenal of the true badasses that the Colonial Marines are (with the one notable exception of the Assault Rifle...with its wimpy 3-round burst, ineffectual sound design, and the fact that it's completely extraneous since the Pulse Rifle is better in every way). The sound design is dead-on, with everything from doors opening to motion tracker pings to pulse rifle blasts sounding exactly like their movie counterparts.

As for the Multiplayer (otherwise known as "why I will keep playing this game after i'm done with the 6-hour campaign"), the game offers some great sustainability in the way of many different game modes (all of which are teams of xenos vs. teams of marines; some of which the marines have only 1 life while xenos respawn constantly) and a TON of unlockable content for customizing your weapons and armor, xeno attacks, and appearance for both sides. The game modes offer a varied assortment of objectives and gameplay styles, and are a ton of fun.

As for the downsides....which every game has. As of today, the communications aspect of multiplayer is buggy (I tried chatting multiple times and the mike connection only worked about 1/3 of the time). There seems to be some lag or frame stuttering during mutliplayer matches during the downtime between rounds, but i'm not sure what caused it. All in all, any issues are minor compared to just how fun the game is!

The Verdict: 8.9/10 for me, the best Aliens game of the last fifteen years.

You are being sarcastic right? Right?  ???

No, I am not. I enjoy this game thoroughly. Stop hating
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Bjørn Half-hand on Feb 13, 2013, 08:35:42 PM
Quote from: Bugnubbinz on Feb 13, 2013, 08:32:44 PM
Quote from: teras on Feb 13, 2013, 12:47:52 PM
Quote from: Bugnubbinz on Feb 13, 2013, 05:18:06 AM
New here, but not to the Aliens franchise.

I got my pre-ordered copy of the game today, and have played through half of the campaign as well as trying out each of the multiplayer modes.

While IGN and Metacritic will have you believe that this is a terrible game with graphical issues and poor presentation, let me dispel any apprehension you may have right now. THIS GAME IS FANTASTIC!!

Critics are misguidedly looking for the next-gen FPS CoD-killer, whereas die-hard Aliens fans will be looking for a true sequel to James Cameron's Aliens. This game represents that, more than any movie-adapted video game I've ever played. Aliens: Colonial Marines is a stalwart example of atmosphere and story done right. With a wonderfully-crafted narrative and a deep, tension-driven, and exciting campaign just ooooooozing with all the fan service and spine-shuddering chills that we've been waiting for with an Aliens franchise game. No true fan will should be disappointed.

Gameplay-wise, you're looking at a campaign mode filled with tight shooting, dark corridors, and some superb voice acting including the return of several actors from Aliens including Lance Hendrickson and Michael Biehn. Weapons feel powerful and accurate, the arsenal of the true badasses that the Colonial Marines are (with the one notable exception of the Assault Rifle...with its wimpy 3-round burst, ineffectual sound design, and the fact that it's completely extraneous since the Pulse Rifle is better in every way). The sound design is dead-on, with everything from doors opening to motion tracker pings to pulse rifle blasts sounding exactly like their movie counterparts.

As for the Multiplayer (otherwise known as "why I will keep playing this game after i'm done with the 6-hour campaign"), the game offers some great sustainability in the way of many different game modes (all of which are teams of xenos vs. teams of marines; some of which the marines have only 1 life while xenos respawn constantly) and a TON of unlockable content for customizing your weapons and armor, xeno attacks, and appearance for both sides. The game modes offer a varied assortment of objectives and gameplay styles, and are a ton of fun.

As for the downsides....which every game has. As of today, the communications aspect of multiplayer is buggy (I tried chatting multiple times and the mike connection only worked about 1/3 of the time). There seems to be some lag or frame stuttering during mutliplayer matches during the downtime between rounds, but i'm not sure what caused it. All in all, any issues are minor compared to just how fun the game is!

The Verdict: 8.9/10 for me, the best Aliens game of the last fifteen years.

You are being sarcastic right? Right?  ???

No, I am not. I enjoy this game thoroughly. Stop hating

No where in the post you quoted does he say he 'hated' the game so why call him a hater. One thing about this whole debacle is that it has really helped me weed out the 'ignore user' posters.

Sick to death of this 'hater' shit that gets thrown at any form of criticism. Take A:CM for example;
''The graphics are poor'' stop hating
''AI is bad'' stop hating
''Story is bad'' stop hating.

Hate is a very strong word to describe what is fair and constructive criticism of this deeply flawed game.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Le Celticant on Feb 13, 2013, 08:36:15 PM
Quote from: Uncanny Psycho on Feb 13, 2013, 08:26:33 PM
Quote from: Elicas on Feb 13, 2013, 07:41:13 PM
Quote from: Effectz on Feb 13, 2013, 07:29:14 PM
I have it on pc all on highest setting.the game looks out dated and plays like a piece of shit.

This man speaketh the truth.

Some fans have such an Aliens hardon, they need the game to be good, so they'll convince themselves otherwise.

Actually I doubted this game from the start.. im starting to realize maybe my hopes were nowhere near as high as everyone else hence why I truly don't mind it!

I believe many people are reacting differently and this may be cause by a thousand things.
Expectation play its part (many sure thought that the game was going to kick ass).
But for some Others it doesn't (in my case I knew this game was going to be a catastrophe, I figured it is even worse after release :D ).

The problem mainly come from the Communication Gearbox had.
First of all, we haven't heard a word from SEGA on anything.
It was always Randy saying things blablablabla ALIENS fan blablabla.

Secondly, we've not heard a lot of words from Outsourcing studios.
What do they have to say about their game? Why the communication tried to hide sooooo much?

Third and last thing, Why in first place Gearbox ONLY tried to sell this game by pretending it as a sequel to ALIENS?
Wouldn't it have been better to talk about mechanic rather than actual things from the film you'll see in the game? We can guess that, we don't need someone to tell us that we will have a Motion tracker when every Aliens game have one.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: cursedMonk on Feb 13, 2013, 09:10:35 PM
Quote from: Uncanny Psycho on Feb 13, 2013, 08:26:33 PM
Actually I doubted this game from the start.. im starting to realize maybe my hopes were nowhere near as high as everyone else hence why I truly don't mind it!

I think that was my sentiments. I'm not giving gearbox (or whom ever dev team they outsourced the core game mechanics at) a pass, but too be honest im suprised it even got published in the first place. 

Here is another interesting question, if this had been a kickstart project, same game, same price, I think most people would be a little more forgiving and alot less bitchy. Would you play it, regardless of source, thats the question? Honestly.

I would, but then again you already know that from my last post.

Is this a subpar offering from a big company that marketed the shit out of what they knew would be a financial DOA from joe public given its release state: yes.

Is this game so broken that not one soul on this rock can enjoy it: no, its not that bad. Not in my opinion.

I guess its up to you what your money/time/expectations are worth and i'm not lambasting anyone who wants there cash back or never want to play. Like I said, its been enjoyable to me, I've seen much worse, and I've spent more money on a movie and dinner with much less bang for my buck.

For most if not all its a rental. I bought because I wanted now and because I wanted to play on pc. Will I be playing in 2 months, probably not, but then again I usually play games like these for a month max anyway unless the mp is really good.

My worthless 2 cents I guess.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: MasCot on Feb 13, 2013, 09:27:13 PM
Just finished playing. Oh boy.

I haven't played any video games since the 2008 Force Unleashed on the Wii, I had reasonable hope that this would be a decent game. I loved the hell out of AvP and AvP2, but this...

My conclusions? The game is not finished, it's as simple as that. I'll do the pro&contra thing.

Pros:
- the sound effects were good
- I played the game in French and as far as I can tell from trailers, the French voice actors did a better job than the Americans, I like the voices
- the level with the zombified aliens was kinda creepy
- the Easter Eggs

Contras:
- I liked the designs on the Sulaco and LV-426, but it got a little monotone over time
- I'm not obsessed with graphics, but the quality difference between the Demo footage and the actual game is quite shocking
- the game was never scary! AvP used to scare the s**t out of me. Or how about Half-Life, the non-Alien Alien game? We are living in 2013 and this is what we've got from Gearbox?
- the aliens were too easy to defeat, even the Crusher
- the Engineer ship looked decent, but it was ruined by...
- swarms of Weyland-Yutani mercenaries! huh? what? I think I killed a whole army of them, and boy, were they idiotic!
- the most underwhelming final boss battle! again, did the developers play Avp?

The biggest con: the story.
Spoiler
Hicks???? What? This doesn't make sense! The Derelict is still intact? Then why did the W-Y need Ripley in Alien3?
[close]

Placing this whole game on LV-426 was a mistake IMO. Instead of making Alien3 a 'better film', it just messed it up even further. Whatever happened to this?

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/games/alienscm/conceptart/normal_concept05.jpg)

How would I rate this game?

3/10.

'Cause I liked the sounds and most of the desings.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: SiL on Feb 13, 2013, 09:52:57 PM
Quote from: Bugnubbinz on Feb 13, 2013, 05:18:06 AM
No true fan will should be disappointed.
What a load.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: And stuff on Feb 13, 2013, 10:04:19 PM
Quote from: Bugnubbinz on Feb 13, 2013, 05:18:06 AM
No true fan will should be disappointed.

It's the true fans who are most likely to be let down by this.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Speedy_J on Feb 13, 2013, 10:40:46 PM
For me, this game is good...But there's room for improvement.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Alien³ on Feb 13, 2013, 10:41:29 PM
Playing it now and totally in love. :D
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 13, 2013, 11:07:30 PM
Done playing SP and MP. Here it goes.

Pros

- Certain levels had that Aliens feel to it which was great (Sulaco and Hadley's Hope were my favorites). I really enjoyed exploring the ravaged colony and fending off aliens in the Hadley's Hope level.
- Loved using the motion tracker (once I turned off the alerting icon on the bottom in the settings). Use it too long and you're dead (more MP than SP) Useful during the SP to figure out where the Weyland-Yutani mercs were at when holed up.
- I liked the variety of weapons not seen in the films but created for the game (SMG, Assault Rifle, etc) and the old weapons themselves
- Easter eggs all over the SP that were nods to the film and I had fun finding them
- The music score is fabulous
- Sound was pretty good (aliens shrieking and weapon sounds were solid)
- Weapons and appearance upgrades/customization were not too shabby

Cons (this is where it all falls apart)

- GRAPHICS. We all know that I have been defending the gameplay > graphics mindset that I have, but Jesus Christ. This engine has to be a few years, minimum, out of date. I mean, holy crap. Can anyone verify or not if it looks better on PC? It's looks awful on my Xbox 360. It's one thing to sacrifice graphics for gameplay but this almost a joke. I would argue Halo 3 has better graphics and that is a game is from 2006, 2007?
- Gameplay. While not a complete and utter failure, the game is not as smooth as it needs to be. This was evidenced big time when I was in a boss fight with a large, charging aliens and I could not run out of the way fast enough and died at least 12 times because I could not get out of the way fast enough. Aiming mechanics seemed a little off at times when I was firefighting with enemies as well. AI is really poor as well, for everything (aliens, mercs, other marines). I thought people were judging really harshly but they were right. It was THAT bad.
- Story. Complete joke. Wasn't the dude from Battlestar Galactica hired to pen a decent story? It felt like it was put together in 30 minutes. I mean, sure, it was nice to see a certain marine alive and well. But the story was very vague. I get that they left it open for a sequel and all but wow. Halo 4's story was not earth shattering but it was at least somewhat deep and detailed. This was really bad and Gearbox fumbled the ball here.
- Glitches. Yes, most games have them and I get that. My issue is that it seems the game was not 100% finished. I won't list all the glitches because most people named them already but it is definitely buggy. Patches will iron most of these issues out I am sure.
- Erratic MP play. While playing as the alien I would swap and claw away at marines and they would not go down. Maybe there are some battle damage issues that need to be fixed. Besides that the marine side has not been so bad. I find myself getting kills much easier on the marine side than the alien side. But the difference was that as an alien I could do almost NOTHING right.
- Challenges have to be done in order. Who the f**k made that call? How stupid is that?

I am VERY letdown by this effort from SEGA and Gearbox. It sucks that SEGA has control of the series and don't give a shit except for taking money off of us fans. I mean, I thought AVP 2010 was painfully average and was hoping for some redemption with this game. I won't get it. This game is in the exact boat as AVP 2010. So-so SP and decent, fun, but not exceptional MP play that you find in AAA titles now (Halo, Battlefield, Call of Duty)

Final score out of 10? Same as what I would argue giving AVP 2010. A 6. A very average, run of the mill 6.


Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: OpenMaw on Feb 13, 2013, 11:20:04 PM
Y'know Hudson, i'm actually pretty shocked. I was certain you were going to be among those incredibly forgiving of the game. Almost 99% certain of that. Glad to see you're more objective than I thought, and I salute you on that.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: DB on Feb 13, 2013, 11:20:27 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 12, 2013, 09:43:13 PMI'm sort of impressed that this whole boiler thing has become an actual meme.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FZwUzYbj.gif&hash=a8f413ee861d0bf7e043cab150235babb959e0b6)

Do we make a collection?

Bros, don't be sad. If anything, enjoy the delicious tears across the internet. Revel in the world burning around you. Because you know what? All that butthurt means only one thing: people care about Aliens. They remember. They love this ancient series and remember how it felt to see Ripley climb into a powerloader to face the Devil's mother. They remember what it felt to check under their beds before going to sleep right after watching Alien. It is because they remember that they QQ. Our Alien is still much beloved, and he is not yet a corpse. They are also 60 bucks poorer but that's not the point.

And one day, just maybe, a hero will rise. He is the hero we deserve, but will become the hero we need right now. We'll tear down these bad games, because Aliens can take it. Because Aliens isn't just a movie. It's an inspiration for all science-fiction. It is the muse that was ripped off influenced the marines in Halo. The Tyranids of 40k. The monstrous Zerg. The law of "all dropship pilots must be women". Sil from Species. BRO marines. "Stay frosty" everywhere. A creative vision will one day find Aliens. That time, it will be war.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv242%2FDeathbite%2Ffiremans-tears.jpg&hash=2ea95212f6fd548443e7acebf5945430b0ebbfdf)
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 13, 2013, 11:25:37 PM
Only thing I hope for at this point is strong sales despite the poor reception. It maybe, MAYBE, would force SEGA to get a real developer.

Or, they could just make more shitty games and force feed them down our throats.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Alien³ on Feb 13, 2013, 11:31:24 PM
Quote from: DB on Feb 13, 2013, 11:20:27 PM
Bros, don't be sad. If anything, enjoy the delicious tears across the internet. Revel in the world burning around you. Because you know what? All that butthurt means only one thing: people care about Aliens. They remember. They love this ancient series and remember how it felt to see Ripley climb into a powerloader to face the Devil's mother. They remember what it felt to check under their beds before going to sleep right after watching Alien. It is because they remember that they QQ. Our Alien is still much beloved, and he is not yet a corpse. They are also 60 bucks poorer but that's not the point.

And one day, just maybe, a hero will rise. He is the hero we deserve, but will become the hero we need right now. We'll tear down these bad games, because Aliens can take it. Because Aliens isn't just a movie. It's an inspiration for all science-fiction. It is the muse that was ripped off influenced the marines in Halo. The Tyranids of 40k. The monstrous Zerg. The law of "all dropship pilots must be women". Sil from Species. BRO marines. "Stay frosty" everywhere. A creative vision will one day find Aliens. That time, it will be war.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v242/Deathbite/firemans-tears.jpg

Exactly. Although I'm throughly enjoying A:CM so am I winning?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: MrBrokenTusks. on Feb 13, 2013, 11:37:43 PM
I doubbt sales will be above average, or even average, I went in the supermarket today, and it still hadn't been put on the shelves, and I asked a mate of mine if he had picked it up and he hadn't even heard of the game, and he is an average gamer and is even a fan of the films
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: chrisr232007 on Feb 13, 2013, 11:41:20 PM
Quote from: MrBrokenTusks. on Feb 13, 2013, 11:37:43 PM
I doubbt sales will be above average, or even average, I went in the supermarket today, and it still hadn't been put on the shelves, and I asked a mate of mine if he had picked it up and he hadn't even heard of the game, and he is an average gamer and is even a fan of the films

My local gamestop and wal mart have not sold many at all which there are a ton sitting on there shelfs.  Also when I cancelled my preorder I was one of many to do it according to the guy at game stop.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Alien³ on Feb 13, 2013, 11:44:33 PM
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Feb 13, 2013, 11:41:20 PM
Also when I cancelled my preorder I was one of many to do it according to the guy at game stop.

If you don't mind me asking, why did you cancel your pre-order?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Dusk on Feb 13, 2013, 11:48:22 PM
Quote from: Alien³ on Feb 13, 2013, 11:44:33 PM
If you don't mind me asking, why did you cancel your pre-order?

I see you haven't kept up with the news of this game.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Alien³ on Feb 13, 2013, 11:51:11 PM
Quote from: Dusk on Feb 13, 2013, 11:48:22 PM
Quote from: Alien³ on Feb 13, 2013, 11:44:33 PM
If you don't mind me asking, why did you cancel your pre-order?

I see you haven't kept up with the news of this game.

Why would that matter?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Cal427eb on Feb 13, 2013, 11:51:56 PM
Quote from: Alien³ on Feb 13, 2013, 11:51:11 PM
Quote from: Dusk on Feb 13, 2013, 11:48:22 PM
Quote from: Alien³ on Feb 13, 2013, 11:44:33 PM
If you don't mind me asking, why did you cancel your pre-order?

I see you haven't kept up with the news of this game.

Why would that matter?
Because everyone and their grandma think that this game is trash.  :P
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Dusk on Feb 13, 2013, 11:55:16 PM
Except for the occasional critic that has been payed under the table, and the fan blinded by denial.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: rufeo33 on Feb 14, 2013, 12:05:03 AM
I like it so far, way better than AVP2010 I didn't even play through 2 or 3 missions in that game before I quit playing it. Maybe the graphics aren't Crysis quality but I'm still having more fun with this than than Crysis 2. I'm playing it on Hardened. I have played and owned all of the Aliens games and this game is no where near as bad as its getting trashed by people or the media. Its seems to be the in thing now to just trash games. Same thing was happening with Dead Space 3. I mean come on 1 and 2's out of 10 that shit is insane I've played 100's of games and I have seen 1 and 2's and this is not that.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 14, 2013, 12:05:18 AM
Quote from: Alien³ on Feb 13, 2013, 11:44:33 PM
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Feb 13, 2013, 11:41:20 PM
Also when I cancelled my preorder I was one of many to do it according to the guy at game stop.

If you don't mind me asking, why did you cancel your pre-order?

Cause it sucks. It's a run of the mill, average game. It was also being touted as this great game by Pitchfraud. I wanted the game to just be better than AVP 2010, even just by a little. And it could not even do that.

Fail.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: JokersWarPig on Feb 14, 2013, 12:07:50 AM
It's not bad, but its not what we where promised. At all.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Alien³ on Feb 14, 2013, 12:16:02 AM
Why would anyone cancel their pre-order because of other people's opinions?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Cal427eb on Feb 14, 2013, 12:17:59 AM
Why would you pre order it at all?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 14, 2013, 12:20:19 AM
Quote from: JokersWarPig on Feb 14, 2013, 12:07:50 AM
It's not bad, but its not what we where promised. At all.

I won't say it SUCKS. Because I kept playing the MP (the SP is not something I would play over and over). It's an average game at best. I am just pissed because I actually felt this would be an above average game, albeit not a great one.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: chrisr232007 on Feb 14, 2013, 12:20:41 AM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 14, 2013, 12:05:18 AM
Quote from: Alien³ on Feb 13, 2013, 11:44:33 PM
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Feb 13, 2013, 11:41:20 PM
Also when I cancelled my preorder I was one of many to do it according to the guy at game stop.

If you don't mind me asking, why did you cancel your pre-order?

Cause it sucks. It's a run of the mill, average game. It was also being touted as this great game by Pitchfraud. I wanted the game to just be better than AVP 2010, even just by a little. And it could not even do that.

Fail.

That is basically why I did which no way I'm paying 60 for a game that will be 20 in like two months. First time I ever cancelled a preorder.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: MrBrokenTusks. on Feb 14, 2013, 12:21:40 AM
Um, well I buy no more than 2-3 games a year, and while reviews are horeshit for the most part they give a good indicator of technical qualities and if you find the right reviewer/persoon they can have similar tastes.

Obviously a game with average about a 4/10 isn't worth looking into if you are limited in what you buy and even if you played the game and think it is good theres no point risking £40 to prove that guy wrong.

No one uses opinions as the be all and end all but when your not rich as hell your not going to buy something just because its aliens
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Alien³ on Feb 14, 2013, 12:22:56 AM
To get the game. You don't pre-order to find ghosts.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: chrisr232007 on Feb 14, 2013, 12:24:20 AM
Quote from: Cal427eb on Feb 14, 2013, 12:17:59 AM
Why would you pre order it at all?

Because I was promise a authentic and true alien experience instead got a below average game that down grades are beloved aliens.  I refuse to put out any more money to only get crap in return.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Cal427eb on Feb 14, 2013, 12:25:39 AM
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Feb 14, 2013, 12:24:20 AM
Quote from: Cal427eb on Feb 14, 2013, 12:17:59 AM
Why would you pre order it at all?

Because I was promise a authentic and true alien experience instead got a below average game that down grades are beloved aliens.  I refuse to put out any more money to only get crap in return.
I stopped believing that shit they were sprouting a long time ago, but back to the point. Why would you pre-order ANY game that you have no knowledge about?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Alien³ on Feb 14, 2013, 12:26:27 AM
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Feb 14, 2013, 12:24:20 AM
Quote from: Cal427eb on Feb 14, 2013, 12:17:59 AM
Why would you pre order it at all?

Because I was promise a authentic and true alien experience instead got a below average game that down grades are beloved aliens.  I refuse to put out any more money to only get crap in return.

You didn't get it at all. You cancelled your order.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: MrBrokenTusks. on Feb 14, 2013, 12:26:51 AM
Well this game has been advertised poorly, and even misrepresented so that is reason enough,  I don't see any reason not too cancel
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: RagingDragon on Feb 14, 2013, 12:27:30 AM
A lot of the reviews have some fundamental problems:

1 - They don't play it on a difficulty that makes the game challenging, or the Xenomorphs remotely dangerous, then they bitch that it was too easy. How could you bitch about how easy a game was without playing it on the hardest difficulty setting?

2 - Hardly any of the reviewers even mention the multiplayer, other than to say "oh it's pretty alright" and move on, which is hilarious give the amount of content actually in the multiplayer portion of the game. By all rights, that's the main focus here, and the campaign is just an afterthought typical CoD or BF style. But no, people have to shit themselves over the campaign mode.

Campaigns usually suck ass anyway. These reviewers are mostly losers for not delving deeper into what the mp had to offer. They played the campaign and ragequit, shitting all over the game like the most butthurt fanboys.

Sad, but let's hope players stick around. My games have been all full so far, and I've hardly had any problems with people dropping out.

No worse than a lot of other games that get better scores, people just like to shit on it because of the hype they tried to build. It's by no means a 2/10, but in order to realize that you have to play mp.

Might as well play through the Battlefield 3 campaign on normal and then say the whole game is a piece of shit. ::)

I'm an avid gamer, and with friends, the mp is waaaaay more fun than a lot of stuff out there. Sad that so many fans are going to miss out because of Johnny Wackit's IGN review with about 20 minutes of multiplayer under his belt.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: chrisr232007 on Feb 14, 2013, 12:27:53 AM
Quote from: Cal427eb on Feb 14, 2013, 12:25:39 AM
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Feb 14, 2013, 12:24:20 AM
Quote from: Cal427eb on Feb 14, 2013, 12:17:59 AM
Why would you pre order it at all?

Because I was promise a authentic and true alien experience instead got a below average game that down grades are beloved aliens.  I refuse to put out any more money to only get crap in return.
I stopped believing that shit they were sprouting a long time ago, but back to the point. Why would you pre-order ANY game that you have no knowledge about?
[/quote

I answered that which I have knowledge of this game for years plus the demo the showed awhile back was great and not what we got now.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Hellspawn28 on Feb 14, 2013, 12:28:11 AM
I think the graphics look alright. They look like most games on the PS3/360 in the past recent years. Not as great as Far Cry 2 & 3 or Halo 4, but I don't think they look that awful in my opinion.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Alien³ on Feb 14, 2013, 12:32:23 AM
Quote from: RagingDragon on Feb 14, 2013, 12:27:30 AM
A lot of the reviews have some fundamental problems:

1 - They don't play it on a difficulty that makes the game challenging, or the Xenomorphs remotely dangerous, then they bitch that it was too easy. How could you bitch about how easy a game was without playing it on the hardest difficulty setting?

2 - Hardly any of the reviewers even mention the multiplayer, other than to say "oh it's pretty alright" and move on, which is hilarious give the amount of content actually in the multiplayer portion of the game. By all rights, that's the main focus here, and the campaign is just an afterthought typical CoD or BF style. But no, people have to shit themselves over the campaign mode.

Campaigns usually suck ass anyway. These reviewers are mostly losers for not delving deeper into what the mp had to offer. They played the campaign and ragequit, shitting all over the game like the most butthurt fanboys.

Sad, but let's hope players stick around. My games have been all full so far, and I've hardly had any problems with people dropping out.

No worse than a lot of other games that get better scores, people just like to shit on it because of the hype they tried to build. It's by no means a 2/10, but in order to realize that you have to play mp.

Might as well play through the Battlefield 3 campaign on normal and then say the whole game is a piece of shit. ::)

I'm an avid gamer, and with friends, the mp is waaaaay more fun than a lot of stuff out there. Sad that so many fans are going to miss out because of Johnny Wackit's IGN review with about 20 minutes of multiplayer under his belt.

Exactly!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: MrBrokenTusks. on Feb 14, 2013, 12:36:41 AM
Quote from: RagingDragon on Feb 14, 2013, 12:27:30 AM
................
The reviews had every right to call out single player, it is the focus of the game, and polish in cod and battlefield  games is what stops the single player getting criticised. They sold you a tence exiting sequel, we got a passable mp that has little depth and only 4 modes.

I enjoy the game but your defence of it while it isn't wrong the way you blame the reviewers is insane and almost contridictory.

The difficulty point is fair enough, but they play all there games on the same setting so it doesn't stand up. playing cod on medium and this on medium should be relatively similar so when they say it's too easy it is relative to other games on this setting, you cant expect them to go threw on badass mode and go it's the hardest game of all time,.. Get realistic

Just because campaigns 'suck ass' doesn't mean you forgive it esspecially when your game is sold as a sequel and story driven game. Thats like saying this episode sucked but it's alright because and episode of that tv show sucked as well, its not really the way you should look at it
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Porkus Maximus on Feb 14, 2013, 12:37:57 AM
Quote from: RagingDragon on Feb 14, 2013, 12:27:30 AM
1 - They don't play it on a difficulty that makes the game challenging, or the Xenomorphs remotely dangerous, then they bitch that it was too easy. How could you bitch about how easy a game was without playing it on the hardest difficulty setting?

You shouldn't have to play on the hardest difficulty to get a "challenge".  The hardest difficulty should be MORE than just a challenge, it should be really f**king hard! The problem with modern video games is that they are now developed more like an interactive movie experience rather than a GAME where you can actually LOSE. So unless you put games on the aboslute hardest setting you are going to coast through it with minimal problems.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: pixelbaron on Feb 14, 2013, 12:39:42 AM
His complaint that reviewers don't play on the hardest difficulty for a challenge doesn't even matter because Ultimate Badass is still a cakewalk and the AI is still absolutely dreadful.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Cal427eb on Feb 14, 2013, 12:42:23 AM
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Feb 14, 2013, 12:27:53 AM
Quote from: Cal427eb on Feb 14, 2013, 12:25:39 AM
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Feb 14, 2013, 12:24:20 AM
Quote from: Cal427eb on Feb 14, 2013, 12:17:59 AM
Why would you pre order it at all?

Because I was promise a authentic and true alien experience instead got a below average game that down grades are beloved aliens.  I refuse to put out any more money to only get crap in return.
I stopped believing that shit they were sprouting a long time ago, but back to the point. Why would you pre-order ANY game that you have no knowledge about?

I answered that which I have knowledge of this game for years plus the demo the showed awhile back was great and not what we got now.
Did you ever actually PLAY the game before you got it? No? Then you had no idea what you were getting since the demos were nothing like the actual game.

Quote from: pixelbaron on Feb 14, 2013, 12:39:42 AM
His complaint that reviewers don't play on the hardest difficulty for a challenge doesn't even matter because Ultimate Badass is still a cakewalk and the AI is still absolutely dreadful.
The only difference between Recruit and Ultimate Badass is a little more acid damage, more cheap kills, and no hud.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: And stuff on Feb 14, 2013, 12:42:41 AM
Quote from: RagingDragon on Feb 14, 2013, 12:27:30 AM
2 - Hardly any of the reviewers even mention the multiplayer, other than to say "oh it's pretty alright" and move on, which is hilarious give the amount of content actually in the multiplayer portion of the game. By all rights, that's the main focus here, and the campaign is just an afterthought typical CoD or BF style. But no, people have to shit themselves over the campaign mode.

Most people don't play games like this for the MP element, unless it's co-op campaign.  The devs should've scrapped the versus modes and focused on the single player and couch-co-op aspects.

Unfortunately the campaign did end up like a CoD style "afterthought", which is exactly what ruined it.   :-\

Edit:  You should read the IGN review and you'll see what I mean.  The MP might be okay in this installment, but most games aren't about the MP.  At least not non-competitive ones.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: pixelbaron on Feb 14, 2013, 12:45:47 AM
The drop-in/drop-out co-op campaign was the big draw for this game and that's what I recall the developers really putting the spotlight on as news filtered out about its development.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: RagingDragon on Feb 14, 2013, 12:48:23 AM
I think the COD games are easy as hell on normal, then on veteran they're frustratingly impossible. Hardened is the only difficulty I can stand, but the settings are wack. They just make a tighter experience, but that says nothing for the AI or the actual creativity or non-linearity of the campaign.

I agree that you shouldn't have to play a game on hard for it to be challenging, but if that's such a big complaint, you owe the game more than not even trying this specific mode that makes the entire game more difficult. If I were a reviewer, I would certainly do that and then inform my readers how I felt about normal mode.

and I'm not saying to "forgive" the campaign, I'm saying "forgive" the bloody multiplayer, because it's awesome. It has quite a bit of depth, more than the average shooter these days, and the different modes go a long way. Call of Duty has plenty of modes, most being the simple difference between objective locations, weapon loadouts, and other gimmicks all on the same maps that hardly qualify as "different modes."

I mean they're a nice switch, but unless you play mad Search & Destroy, you still do the same things ever... bloody... time. Aliens has proven to offer a lot of variety so far, lots of weapons, skills, set-ups, and strategies.

And the best part is, none of you really know, because none of you have really played it ;)

Quote from: And stuff on Feb 14, 2013, 12:42:41 AM
Quote from: RagingDragon on Feb 14, 2013, 12:27:30 AM
2 - Hardly any of the reviewers even mention the multiplayer, other than to say "oh it's pretty alright" and move on, which is hilarious give the amount of content actually in the multiplayer portion of the game. By all rights, that's the main focus here, and the campaign is just an afterthought typical CoD or BF style. But no, people have to shit themselves over the campaign mode.

Most people don't play games like this for the MP element, unless it's co-op campaign.  The devs should've scrapped the versus modes and focused on the single player and couch-co-op aspects.

Unfortunately the campaign did end up like a CoD style "afterthought", which is exactly what ruined it.   :-\

Edit:  You should read the IGN review and you'll see what I mean.  The MP might be okay in this installment, but most games aren't about the MP.  At least not non-competitive ones.

I think this is just wrong. The games that started making millions and dragged the entire industry into the AAA category were online games, multiplayer games. I enjoy single player too, but we're getting old. Single-player gamers are faaaaaar outnumbered by the hordes and hordes of internet players who've populated servers for years at this point.

Story mode doesn't keep a game alive past initial sales, unless your entire game is focused on it. Sure, DLC can cause some extra spikes in the player pool, but single-player isn't designed to last near as long, nor make nearly as much money, as a game like COD or Battlefield. For Aliens being an FPS, it was the smartest thing they couldve done to focus on mp. That's what will keep the game alive and make the money.

This is all moot, because by all rights they shouldve developed both to a much higher quality, but if I have to pick one, it will be mp all day long.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Cal427eb on Feb 14, 2013, 12:52:33 AM
Quote from: RagingDragon on Feb 14, 2013, 12:48:23 AM
And the best part is, none of you really know, because none of you have really played it ;)
Except, that I have.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Alien³ on Feb 14, 2013, 12:53:12 AM
This is the Aliens game we've been waiting for.

I'm deadly serious.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: And stuff on Feb 14, 2013, 12:53:26 AM
Quote from: RagingDragon on Feb 14, 2013, 12:48:23 AM
And the best part is, none of you really know, because none of you have really played it ;)

Probably because games like this aren't made for MP.  It's usually just something they throw in to please a minority.  I imagine most folks who have been waiting for this game aren't interested in the MP.

Unfortunately this time it seems like the MP is the only thing keeping the game afloat, sad as it is.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Cal427eb on Feb 14, 2013, 12:54:53 AM
Quote from: Alien³ on Feb 14, 2013, 12:53:12 AM
This is the Aliens game we've been waiting for.
Maybe what you've been looking for. For the majority though, not so much.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Dusk on Feb 14, 2013, 12:55:32 AM
I honestly never wasted a thought on MP. I wanted this for the co-op. And with Gearbox developing, I was sure they would put some effort into it. They didn't.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Alien³ on Feb 14, 2013, 12:59:21 AM
Quote from: Cal427eb on Feb 14, 2013, 12:54:53 AM
Quote from: Alien³ on Feb 14, 2013, 12:53:12 AM
This is the Aliens game we've been waiting for.
Maybe what you've been looking for. For the majority though, not so much.

We're all individuals. I've been a fan of this franchise since I was 4 years old. Now at 24 I couldn't care less what the majority feel, this game fills a void that I've been waiting for. Go figure.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: RagingDragon on Feb 14, 2013, 01:08:00 AM
I'm just glad you have a broad spectrum of opinions now. :laugh: The ratio is about right, because the game really does fail on a lot of what it promised to deliver.

But I'm just sharing my experience, because the magic is in the multiplayer. Lots to do, and bugs yes but patches and DLC should make a decent product great.

I don't regret buying this game strictly because of the mp, though I'm enjoying the coop for what it is (which isn't much.) I've already had some of the most awesome Aliens moments in the mp, more than I've almost ever had in a game, and I'm so happy I did. It does get it just as close if not closer than any game in the past, and sometimes it genuinely shines.

Dat all. Good luck with your decision dude, hope we were helpful. :laugh:
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 14, 2013, 01:29:22 AM
Quote from: RagingDragon on Feb 14, 2013, 12:27:30 AM
A lot of the reviews have some fundamental problems:

1 - They don't play it on a difficulty that makes the game challenging, or the Xenomorphs remotely dangerous, then they bitch that it was too easy. How could you bitch about how easy a game was without playing it on the hardest difficulty setting?

2 - Hardly any of the reviewers even mention the multiplayer, other than to say "oh it's pretty alright" and move on, which is hilarious give the amount of content actually in the multiplayer portion of the game. By all rights, that's the main focus here, and the campaign is just an afterthought typical CoD or BF style. But no, people have to shit themselves over the campaign mode.

Campaigns usually suck ass anyway. These reviewers are mostly losers for not delving deeper into what the mp had to offer. They played the campaign and ragequit, shitting all over the game like the most butthurt fanboys.

Sad, but let's hope players stick around. My games have been all full so far, and I've hardly had any problems with people dropping out.

No worse than a lot of other games that get better scores, people just like to shit on it because of the hype they tried to build. It's by no means a 2/10, but in order to realize that you have to play mp.

Might as well play through the Battlefield 3 campaign on normal and then say the whole game is a piece of shit. ::)

I'm an avid gamer, and with friends, the mp is waaaaay more fun than a lot of stuff out there. Sad that so many fans are going to miss out because of Johnny Wackit's IGN review with about 20 minutes of multiplayer under his belt.

I agree to an extent. Hardened mode on my own was a bitch. And I had a far better time playing MP than SP. But in the end it's still not a great game. I give it a 6. Pretty much the same score I would give AVP 2010.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Space Sweeper on Feb 14, 2013, 01:44:37 AM
Quote from: Effectz on Feb 13, 2013, 04:45:06 PM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dPF8jpItCs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dPF8jpItCs#ws)

Best thing to come out of the game.
That shit was hilarious.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Slaine on Feb 14, 2013, 01:46:07 AM
Quote from: RagingDragon on Feb 14, 2013, 01:08:00 AM
I'm just glad you have a broad spectrum of opinions now. :laugh: The ratio is about right, because the game really does fail on a lot of what it promised to deliver.

But I'm just sharing my experience, because the magic is in the multiplayer. Lots to do, and bugs yes but patches and DLC should make a decent product great.

I don't regret buying this game strictly because of the mp, though I'm enjoying the coop for what it is (which isn't much.) I've already had some of the most awesome Aliens moments in the mp, more than I've almost ever had in a game, and I'm so happy I did. It does get it just as close if not closer than any game in the past, and sometimes it genuinely shines.

Dat all. Good luck with your decision dude, hope we were helpful. :laugh:

I got rid of the game today, but I will say that the multiplayer is fun once you get the hang of it. I could see myself playing it a bit more, but since I the trade-in price for the game is high, i got rid of it..for now. I would have been much happier if they sold the multiplayer alone, as a budget downloadable title- because as simple as it is, the multiplayer is okay.

The campaign really was pointless.

I'll probably buy the game at a later date when it's really cheap.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 14, 2013, 02:00:04 AM
Quote from: Slaine on Feb 14, 2013, 01:46:07 AM
Quote from: RagingDragon on Feb 14, 2013, 01:08:00 AM
I'm just glad you have a broad spectrum of opinions now. :laugh: The ratio is about right, because the game really does fail on a lot of what it promised to deliver.

But I'm just sharing my experience, because the magic is in the multiplayer. Lots to do, and bugs yes but patches and DLC should make a decent product great.

I don't regret buying this game strictly because of the mp, though I'm enjoying the coop for what it is (which isn't much.) I've already had some of the most awesome Aliens moments in the mp, more than I've almost ever had in a game, and I'm so happy I did. It does get it just as close if not closer than any game in the past, and sometimes it genuinely shines.

Dat all. Good luck with your decision dude, hope we were helpful. :laugh:

I got rid of the game today, but I will say that the multiplayer is fun once you get the hang of it. I could see myself playing it a bit more, but since I the trade-in price for the game is high, i got rid of it..for now. I would have been much happier if they sold the multiplayer alone, as a budget downloadable title- because as simple as it is, the multiplayer is okay.

The campaign really was pointless.

I'll probably buy the game at a later date when it's really cheap.

I may do the same. How much did they give you for it? Mine would be unopened.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Slaine on Feb 14, 2013, 02:03:27 AM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 14, 2013, 02:00:04 AM
Quote from: Slaine on Feb 14, 2013, 01:46:07 AM
Quote from: RagingDragon on Feb 14, 2013, 01:08:00 AM
I'm just glad you have a broad spectrum of opinions now. :laugh: The ratio is about right, because the game really does fail on a lot of what it promised to deliver.

But I'm just sharing my experience, because the magic is in the multiplayer. Lots to do, and bugs yes but patches and DLC should make a decent product great.

I don't regret buying this game strictly because of the mp, though I'm enjoying the coop for what it is (which isn't much.) I've already had some of the most awesome Aliens moments in the mp, more than I've almost ever had in a game, and I'm so happy I did. It does get it just as close if not closer than any game in the past, and sometimes it genuinely shines.

Dat all. Good luck with your decision dude, hope we were helpful. :laugh:

I got rid of the game today, but I will say that the multiplayer is fun once you get the hang of it. I could see myself playing it a bit more, but since I the trade-in price for the game is high, i got rid of it..for now. I would have been much happier if they sold the multiplayer alone, as a budget downloadable title- because as simple as it is, the multiplayer is okay.

The campaign really was pointless.

I'll probably buy the game at a later date when it's really cheap.

I may do the same. How much did they give you for it? Mine would be unopened.

I'm in the UK, went to CEX and they gave me £30 credit for it, or cash is £28.

It'll likely go lower during the week I bet, as more people trade it in...

Funny thing is when I traded it in, I already saw 4 pre-owned copies of it on the shelf. I went in the morning, too, which means those people must have traded it in on the same day of release!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Alien³ on Feb 14, 2013, 02:15:48 AM
Or the staff at CEX bought it to have on shelves.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 14, 2013, 03:31:34 AM
Quote from: Alien³ on Feb 14, 2013, 02:15:48 AM
Or the staff at CEX bought it to have on shelves.

OMG, SHUT UP DUDE. STOP. We get it. You love this mediocre game.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Bugnubbinz on Feb 14, 2013, 03:31:48 AM
Quote from: Bjørn Half-hand on Feb 13, 2013, 08:35:42 PM
Quote from: Bugnubbinz on Feb 13, 2013, 08:32:44 PM
Quote from: teras on Feb 13, 2013, 12:47:52 PM
Quote from: Bugnubbinz on Feb 13, 2013, 05:18:06 AM
New here, but not to the Aliens franchise.

I got my pre-ordered copy of the game today, and have played through half of the campaign as well as trying out each of the multiplayer modes.

While IGN and Metacritic will have you believe that this is a terrible game with graphical issues and poor presentation, let me dispel any apprehension you may have right now. THIS GAME IS FANTASTIC!!

Critics are misguidedly looking for the next-gen FPS CoD-killer, whereas die-hard Aliens fans will be looking for a true sequel to James Cameron's Aliens. This game represents that, more than any movie-adapted video game I've ever played. Aliens: Colonial Marines is a stalwart example of atmosphere and story done right. With a wonderfully-crafted narrative and a deep, tension-driven, and exciting campaign just ooooooozing with all the fan service and spine-shuddering chills that we've been waiting for with an Aliens franchise game. No true fan will should be disappointed.

Gameplay-wise, you're looking at a campaign mode filled with tight shooting, dark corridors, and some superb voice acting including the return of several actors from Aliens including Lance Hendrickson and Michael Biehn. Weapons feel powerful and accurate, the arsenal of the true badasses that the Colonial Marines are (with the one notable exception of the Assault Rifle...with its wimpy 3-round burst, ineffectual sound design, and the fact that it's completely extraneous since the Pulse Rifle is better in every way). The sound design is dead-on, with everything from doors opening to motion tracker pings to pulse rifle blasts sounding exactly like their movie counterparts.

As for the Multiplayer (otherwise known as "why I will keep playing this game after i'm done with the 6-hour campaign"), the game offers some great sustainability in the way of many different game modes (all of which are teams of xenos vs. teams of marines; some of which the marines have only 1 life while xenos respawn constantly) and a TON of unlockable content for customizing your weapons and armor, xeno attacks, and appearance for both sides. The game modes offer a varied assortment of objectives and gameplay styles, and are a ton of fun.

As for the downsides....which every game has. As of today, the communications aspect of multiplayer is buggy (I tried chatting multiple times and the mike connection only worked about 1/3 of the time). There seems to be some lag or frame stuttering during mutliplayer matches during the downtime between rounds, but i'm not sure what caused it. All in all, any issues are minor compared to just how fun the game is!

The Verdict: 8.9/10 for me, the best Aliens game of the last fifteen years.

You are being sarcastic right? Right?  ???

No, I am not. I enjoy this game thoroughly. Stop hating

No where in the post you quoted does he say he 'hated' the game so why call him a hater. One thing about this whole debacle is that it has really helped me weed out the 'ignore user' posters.

Sick to death of this 'hater' shit that gets thrown at any form of criticism. Take A:CM for example;
''The graphics are poor'' stop hating
''AI is bad'' stop hating
''Story is bad'' stop hating.

Hate is a very strong word to describe what is fair and constructive criticism of this deeply flawed game.

You know what? You're actually right. I'm sorry (seriously, no sarcasm intended). People are free to have their opinions on the game, and it IS definitely a flawed one. I just get fed up with the lack of support that so many fans show, and it feels like a lot of people are unwilling to look past minor imperfections a lot of the time.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Cal427eb on Feb 14, 2013, 03:34:32 AM
Quote from: Bugnubbinz on Feb 14, 2013, 03:31:48 AMI just get fed up with the lack of support that so many fans show, and it feels like a lot of people are unwilling to look past minor imperfections a lot of the time.
This game has WAAAYYY worse than minor imperfections. The game is broken.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Bugnubbinz on Feb 14, 2013, 03:57:03 AM
Quote from: Cal427eb on Feb 14, 2013, 03:34:32 AM
Quote from: Bugnubbinz on Feb 14, 2013, 03:31:48 AMI just get fed up with the lack of support that so many fans show, and it feels like a lot of people are unwilling to look past minor imperfections a lot of the time.
This game has WAAAYYY worse than minor imperfections. The game is broken.
I know, I'm not saying it doesn't. I just meant I was sick of people griping about graphics (seriously, they weren't god-awful or unplayably bad graphics, just...lackluster).
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Cal427eb on Feb 14, 2013, 04:10:45 AM
Quote from: Bugnubbinz on Feb 14, 2013, 03:57:03 AM
Quote from: Cal427eb on Feb 14, 2013, 03:34:32 AM
Quote from: Bugnubbinz on Feb 14, 2013, 03:31:48 AMI just get fed up with the lack of support that so many fans show, and it feels like a lot of people are unwilling to look past minor imperfections a lot of the time.
This game has WAAAYYY worse than minor imperfections. The game is broken.
I know, I'm not saying it doesn't. I just meant I was sick of people griping about graphics (seriously, they weren't god-awful or unplayably bad graphics, just...lackluster).
They're f**king horrible.  :-\

I'm not even a graphics kinda guy but if everything else is just as bad or worse of course I'm going to complain about it. It wouldn't be a problem if the gameplay was solid.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Bugnubbinz on Feb 14, 2013, 04:16:29 AM
Quote from: Cal427eb on Feb 14, 2013, 04:10:45 AM
Quote from: Bugnubbinz on Feb 14, 2013, 03:57:03 AM
Quote from: Cal427eb on Feb 14, 2013, 03:34:32 AM
Quote from: Bugnubbinz on Feb 14, 2013, 03:31:48 AMI just get fed up with the lack of support that so many fans show, and it feels like a lot of people are unwilling to look past minor imperfections a lot of the time.
This game has WAAAYYY worse than minor imperfections. The game is broken.
I know, I'm not saying it doesn't. I just meant I was sick of people griping about graphics (seriously, they weren't god-awful or unplayably bad graphics, just...lackluster).
They're f**king horrible.  :-\

I'm not even a graphics kinda guy but if everything else is just as bad or worse of course I'm going to complain about it. It wouldn't be a problem if the gameplay was solid.

Eh, fair enough. Agree to disagree on that one. I didn't have that big a problem with the graphics or the gameplay (outside of multiplayer). I mean, neither one was anything special for this generation of gaming, but it wasn't a deal-breaker for me.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Skulexander on Feb 14, 2013, 04:51:42 AM
I got bored with SP pretty quick. I haven't even finished it. MP, on the other hand, is quite enjoyable. Playing as the marines kind of bores me (personal taste, probably), but it sure is fun playing as the xenomorphs and trying to get the hang of them. I like the customization options for them too, although I haven't unlocked much yet. All-in-all, it sure was disappointing after all the hype the game was given, but I still am enjoying it. The MP. It'll be a lot better soon as they fix the bugs.

I personally believe there could be a MP Alien game that has the proper feel of the movies instead of a more basic shooter game. It just needs to be done right. For instance, the environment would need to be darker and harder to see in. For the marines, anyway. The maps would need to be a lot more closed-in, so the marines can't go out in the open and wait for the xenomorphs to come out at them so they could easily gun them down. This is especially true for outdoor maps. There would need to be a lot more nooks and crannies for the xenomorphs to crawl through, so they could sneak up on the marines. It just needs to be done so that the people playing the xenomorphs can rely on stealth to defeat the marines, and the marines feel a sense of dread and need to be constantly vigilant. And the xenomorphs should outnumber the marines in versus mode, instead of having even teams.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Mister T on Feb 14, 2013, 04:56:53 AM
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Feb 14, 2013, 01:44:37 AM
Quote from: Effectz on Feb 13, 2013, 04:45:06 PM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dPF8jpItCs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dPF8jpItCs#ws)

Best thing to come out of the game.
That shit was hilarious.

ACCURATE
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ShadowPred on Feb 14, 2013, 05:01:33 AM
Quote from: Effectz on Feb 13, 2013, 04:45:06 PM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dPF8jpItCs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dPF8jpItCs#ws)

Best thing to come out of the game.


This is so f**king sad...I...god damn it. The only time I laughed was when they showed the Wii-U footage, I had to hold my mouth closed from laughing so damn hard.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: hfeldhaus on Feb 14, 2013, 06:05:40 AM
think there are a lot of drama queens on here when it comes to the graphics, they're not the best but they get the job done and even look good in some sections. the exterior of the derelict is impressive if you take the time to look
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 14, 2013, 06:11:10 AM
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Feb 14, 2013, 06:05:40 AM
think there are a lot of drama queens on here when it comes to the graphics, they're not the best but they get the job done and even look good in some sections. the exterior of the derelict is impressive if you take the time to look

You kidding me? The graphics are the LEAST of the games problems.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Feb 14, 2013, 06:12:23 AM
That Wii U footage can't be real. It looks like the Jaguar game.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Nightlord on Feb 14, 2013, 06:16:15 AM
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Feb 14, 2013, 06:12:23 AM
That Wii U footage can't be real. It looks like the Jaguar game.
Oh it's quite real alright, Gearbox just outsourced it to Monolith.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: hfeldhaus on Feb 14, 2013, 06:17:14 AM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 14, 2013, 06:11:10 AM
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Feb 14, 2013, 06:05:40 AM
think there are a lot of drama queens on here when it comes to the graphics, they're not the best but they get the job done and even look good in some sections. the exterior of the derelict is impressive if you take the time to look

You kidding me? The graphics are the LEAST of the games problems.

well thats what most people are focusing on. the boring story and the ai are the only real problems, but you get the same thing with COD games. bugs ad glitches can be ironed over time if SEGA and gearbox want to stump up the money for further patches
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 14, 2013, 06:21:17 AM
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Feb 14, 2013, 06:17:14 AM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 14, 2013, 06:11:10 AM
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Feb 14, 2013, 06:05:40 AM
think there are a lot of drama queens on here when it comes to the graphics, they're not the best but they get the job done and even look good in some sections. the exterior of the derelict is impressive if you take the time to look

You kidding me? The graphics are the LEAST of the games problems.

well thats what most people are focusing on. the boring story and the ai are the only real problems, but you get the same thing with COD games. bugs ad glitches can be ironed over time if SEGA and gearbox want to stump up the money for further patches

I can't even reply to this. You keep living in that dream world. This game sucks dude. This is coming from a guy (me) who was DYING for the game to succeed and be solid, not great or even very good.

This game sucks.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: hfeldhaus on Feb 14, 2013, 06:27:03 AM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 14, 2013, 06:21:17 AM
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Feb 14, 2013, 06:17:14 AM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 14, 2013, 06:11:10 AM
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Feb 14, 2013, 06:05:40 AM
think there are a lot of drama queens on here when it comes to the graphics, they're not the best but they get the job done and even look good in some sections. the exterior of the derelict is impressive if you take the time to look

You kidding me? The graphics are the LEAST of the games problems.

well thats what most people are focusing on. the boring story and the ai are the only real problems, but you get the same thing with COD games. bugs ad glitches can be ironed over time if SEGA and gearbox want to stump up the money for further patches

I can't even reply to this. You keep living in that dream world. This game sucks dude. This is coming from a guy (me) who was DYING for the game to succeed and be solid, not great or even very good.

This game sucks.

i have literaly never said this game was a 'dream game'. too many people are busting all kinds of nuts because they thought they were going to be able to relive the film. when it came to CM i was one of the few that was realistic in that it wasnt going to be the game everyone wished for. i had no expectations for this game so i can look past its flaws and enjoy it for a couple months, i sympathise with you pal. remember to keep your feet on the ground next time, things seem better that way
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 14, 2013, 06:30:12 AM
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Feb 14, 2013, 06:27:03 AM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 14, 2013, 06:21:17 AM
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Feb 14, 2013, 06:17:14 AM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 14, 2013, 06:11:10 AM
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Feb 14, 2013, 06:05:40 AM
think there are a lot of drama queens on here when it comes to the graphics, they're not the best but they get the job done and even look good in some sections. the exterior of the derelict is impressive if you take the time to look

You kidding me? The graphics are the LEAST of the games problems.

well thats what most people are focusing on. the boring story and the ai are the only real problems, but you get the same thing with COD games. bugs ad glitches can be ironed over time if SEGA and gearbox want to stump up the money for further patches

I can't even reply to this. You keep living in that dream world. This game sucks dude. This is coming from a guy (me) who was DYING for the game to succeed and be solid, not great or even very good.

This game sucks.

i have literaly never said this game was a 'dream game'. too many people are busting all kinds of nuts because they thought they were going to be able to relive the film. when it came to CM i was one of the few that was realistic in that it wasnt going to be the game everyone wished for. i had no expectations for this game so i can look past its flaws and enjoy it for a couple months, i sympathise with you pal. remember to keep your feet on the ground next time, things seem better that way

W/E dude. You act like I was expecting the best game ever. I was just going by the 2011 E3 footage and the fact that Pitchfraud sold us a game that he kept telling us would be phenomenal.

Go enjoy your shitty game. I will buy the next game when the reviews are higher than the average score of 4.7.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: hfeldhaus on Feb 14, 2013, 06:37:23 AM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 14, 2013, 06:30:12 AM
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Feb 14, 2013, 06:27:03 AM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 14, 2013, 06:21:17 AM
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Feb 14, 2013, 06:17:14 AM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 14, 2013, 06:11:10 AM
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Feb 14, 2013, 06:05:40 AM
think there are a lot of drama queens on here when it comes to the graphics, they're not the best but they get the job done and even look good in some sections. the exterior of the derelict is impressive if you take the time to look

You kidding me? The graphics are the LEAST of the games problems.

well thats what most people are focusing on. the boring story and the ai are the only real problems, but you get the same thing with COD games. bugs ad glitches can be ironed over time if SEGA and gearbox want to stump up the money for further patches

I can't even reply to this. You keep living in that dream world. This game sucks dude. This is coming from a guy (me) who was DYING for the game to succeed and be solid, not great or even very good.

This game sucks.

i have literaly never said this game was a 'dream game'. too many people are busting all kinds of nuts because they thought they were going to be able to relive the film. when it came to CM i was one of the few that was realistic in that it wasnt going to be the game everyone wished for. i had no expectations for this game so i can look past its flaws and enjoy it for a couple months, i sympathise with you pal. remember to keep your feet on the ground next time, things seem better that way

W/E dude. You act like I was expecting the best game ever. I was just going by the 2011 E3 footage and the fact that Pitchfraud sold us a game that he kept telling us would be phenomenal.

Go enjoy your shitty game. I will buy the next game when the reviews are higher than the average score of 4.7.

well your moaning sure sounds like you did expect that. never heard someone this butthurt. your too gullible, he was hardly ever going to say that the game hes making is glitchy as hell, has a bad storyline and out dated graphics. dont you worry im enjoying not wasting a lot of my money very much
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: LastSonofWhat on Feb 14, 2013, 07:37:33 AM
I think I may get the game just to record my reactions. Mind you not just my verbal reactions, I want to do it for science. I'll record my emotional, physical, and mental reactions. If I should die during the gameplay, someone tell them my story.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: HappyAlien on Feb 14, 2013, 07:40:56 AM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Feb 13, 2013, 06:28:49 PM
Quote from: HappyAlien on Feb 13, 2013, 06:27:32 PM
i've noticed that most of the people defending this game have less than ten posts on AVP Galaxy. Did Gearbox ask its employees to join this sight in the last 24 hours to defend the game or something?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfAm38GPsGw# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfAm38GPsGw#)


What I'm talking about is forum members like Bugnubbinz, alekss, Vezner and CurseMonk have just popped up in the last 48 hours with the sole intent of defending the game and saying how good it is. Bugnubbinz seems to take it personally when people complain (rightly so0 ho out of date the graphics are. Much like someone who worked on the game would be defensive about it.

Not saying they actually work for Gearbox but i find it strange how most of the people on this forum giving it good reviews have only been with AVP Galaxy for no more than 3 days or have only started posting in the last 48-72 hours. the vast majority see the game for what it is below average. Yes everyone is entitled to their opinion but this game is clearly sub par and badly dated. When compared to other FPS out there.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ShadowPred on Feb 14, 2013, 08:54:39 AM
I wouldn't think anything of it besides the fact that a new game has come out, and we've gotten some new people in here days, weeks, and months before the release of the game. The same thing is going to happen when another major game, or movie related to whatever franchise is going to come out.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: OpenMaw on Feb 14, 2013, 09:05:29 AM
Quote from: Bugnubbinz on Feb 14, 2013, 03:57:03 AM
I know, I'm not saying it doesn't. I just meant I was sick of people griping about graphics (seriously, they weren't god-awful or unplayably bad graphics, just...lackluster).

Of course they weren't "unplayable." That would be a fault in the game play department.

They are, however, embarrassing for this generation of games. No matter how you slice it. Screen tearing, low rez fuzzy textures, lots of texture popping, geometry popping.  Incredibly nasty glitches with decals, corpses, and body parts hanging in mid air, or getting stuck and having a conniption in walls/floors/ceilings. None of that is acceptable in a AAA game... And that's just one aspect of the entire circus freak show that is this bug riddled mess known as Colonial Marines.

Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Alien³ on Feb 14, 2013, 09:21:42 AM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 14, 2013, 03:31:34 AM
Quote from: Alien³ on Feb 14, 2013, 02:15:48 AM
Or the staff at CEX bought it to have on shelves.

OMG, SHUT UP DUDE. STOP. We get it. You love this mediocre game.

Keep it clean. Remember we're all on this forum because we love the two franchises. It won't do you any good telling people to shut up because they like something you don't.

Please and thank you.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: LogansFolly on Feb 14, 2013, 09:43:21 AM
Ok well im not new here and i wana add my bit. I think people might be enjoying the game and making there own opinions rather than taking ign or gamespots.

I think the games Multiplayer is fun and it works. I have played it for about 6/7 hours and am enjoying it. I have been playing all the modes and extermination is great... getting the marines to the eggs and waiting to see if your gonna get hit with your motion tracker out... it remindes me of, well.... aliens!? I intend on playing it to death untill the game dies because of the neg reviews which are way over board imo. The multiplayer fun alone means it is worth a 7. AT LEAST. I have noticed NO LAG WHATSOEVER. If anybody here on this forum doesn't think i'm for real and wants to play or see why i like it or how i play and enjoy by all mean add me on xbox live gamertag LOGANSFOLLY. I will be on every night around 9-midnight uk time. I promise you can have fun with it online and get some good kdr's and get some unlocks...

I only hope they do realese the bug hunt dlc because i will buy it.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: teras on Feb 14, 2013, 09:48:19 AM
So, I finally finished the game last night (soldier difficulty).

You can tell that the game is really unfinished and just had pieces patched in by different people working on it.
The pathetic ending is not just a cliffhanger. When it ends, there is no flow. No end credits, just mission over and return to the main menu. As if they literally added the final cutscene and said go, go, go, get it gold to be over with!

I also played the first 3 chapters co-op (Ubadass) with 3 other people and I didn't get the improvement some people are claiming to be.
It wasn't harder, just cheaper when fighting Mercs and with less health.
The MP while not bad is nothing special and needs serious balancing.

The biggest let down with this game is that it really had potential. In the hands of a developer that actually gave a f@ck about polish and production value this could have been a great game. Shame!

And yes, the demo they showed and the amazing screenshots before release was a different game. This was false advertising.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: LogansFolly on Feb 14, 2013, 09:51:31 AM
Quote from: teras on Feb 14, 2013, 09:48:19 AM
So, I finally finished the game last night (soldier difficulty).

You can tell that the game is really unfinished and just had pieces patched in by different people working on it.
The pathetic ending is not just a cliffhanger. When it ends, there is no flow. No end credits, just mission over and return to the main menu. As if they literally added the final cutscene and said go, go, go, get it gold to be over with!

I also played the first 3 chapters co-op (Ubadass) with 3 other people and I didn't get the improvement some people are claiming to be.
It wasn't harder, just cheaper when fighting Mercs and with less health.
The MP while not bad is nothing special and needs serious balancing.

The biggest let down with this game is that it really had potential. In the hands of a developer that actually gave a f@ck about polish and production value this could have been a great game. Shame!

And yes, the demo they showed and the amazing screenshots before release was a different game. This was false advertising.

Why does the multiplayer need balancing? Do you not need to get better?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: OpenMaw on Feb 14, 2013, 09:53:07 AM
Quote from: LogansFolly on Feb 14, 2013, 09:51:31 AM
Why does the multiplayer need balancing? Do you not need to get better?

No, it really does need some major balancing. The marines clearly have an advantage. The aliens are suffering from a buggy walk-walk and a badly functioning pounce for the lurker. There are other issues too. It has problems.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Salt The Fries on Feb 14, 2013, 10:04:58 AM
I maxed out the game on my laptop with 4 gb ram, i5 processor and Geforce 520MX on 1366x768 yet for example much of the second level feels like a game made in 1999 using LithTech engine...I AM HONEST and SERIOUS not trolling at all. Sometimes I thought I'm playing Blood 2 by Monolith but that was 1999.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: LogansFolly on Feb 14, 2013, 10:11:35 AM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 14, 2013, 09:53:07 AM
Quote from: LogansFolly on Feb 14, 2013, 09:51:31 AM
Why does the multiplayer need balancing? Do you not need to get better?

No, it really does need some major balancing. The marines clearly have an advantage. The aliens are suffering from a buggy walk-walk and a badly functioning pounce for the lurker. There are other issues too. It has problems.

The wall walk works ok. Yes there are some problems with invisable walls ect but i find that if you jump from surface to surface and wait and stalk the marines rather than chaseing them round the map then you can get a few good kills... you will die but you will take marines with you and if you have a team of aliens that also understand this you can easily over power the marines. Also the whole point is that you switch sides.... so if you dont enjoy the aliens part of the mp... soon its marine time and then you can get your scores up and have fun playing the game with your tracker out shittin your pants esp in extermination... i'm not trying to sell you the game.. am trying to tell you it is not as bad is being made out (mp only)
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: OpenMaw on Feb 14, 2013, 10:20:36 AM
Quote from: LogansFolly on Feb 14, 2013, 10:11:35 AM
The wall walk works ok.

Yeah. Okay. "it's ok." It's not as good as it could be. It's sluggish, especially when transitioning, which has gotten many people killed. Enough so that they have felt the need to ask in games i've been in if anyone else was having trouble with alien navigation. the front, back, and side motion gets switched around sometimes depending on which plane you are and which direction you are. Plus all the invisible clipping, which has blocked, but also knocked me off in places. This was never a problem in AVP or AVP 2. Gearbox should have taken notes.



Quote from: LogansFolly on Feb 14, 2013, 10:11:35 AM
you will die but you will take marines with you and if you have a team of aliens that also understand this you can easily over power the marines. Also the whole point is that you switch sides.... so if you dont enjoy the aliens part of the mp... soon its marine time and then you can get your scores up and have fun playing the game with your tracker out shittin your pants esp in extermination... i'm not trying to sell you the game.. am trying to tell you it is not as bad is being made out (mp only)

That's unacceptable in a game where kill count is the way to victory. If I kill them, and they kill me, it's a stalemate.

It's not a matter of liking one side over the other. I have no major preference. Marine is simply the easier one to pick up and play, and part of that has to do with the fact that the xenomorph controls are really shoddy. I'm a long time veteran of the Alien and AVP games, this isn't some noob crying foul over some new and mysterious shit. Gearbox tried to be cute and a little different with the alien design. The problem is their formula has taken the xeno game play experience away from what worked, and worked very well.

The combat in particular is built on this goofy idea that the alien stops moving when he attacks(Except for special attacks which you have to hold down.). They really should have replicated the functionality of AvP2. They didn't though. So the next best thing for them to do is fix what's fundamentally buggy and broken here. Navigation is vital. I shouldn't have to overcome buggy controls to become good at the game. That's not how it works.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: teras on Feb 14, 2013, 10:22:43 AM
Quote from: LogansFolly on Feb 14, 2013, 09:51:31 AM
Quote from: teras on Feb 14, 2013, 09:48:19 AM
So, I finally finished the game last night (soldier difficulty).

You can tell that the game is really unfinished and just had pieces patched in by different people working on it.
The pathetic ending is not just a cliffhanger. When it ends, there is no flow. No end credits, just mission over and return to the main menu. As if they literally added the final cutscene and said go, go, go, get it gold to be over with!

I also played the first 3 chapters co-op (Ubadass) with 3 other people and I didn't get the improvement some people are claiming to be.
It wasn't harder, just cheaper when fighting Mercs and with less health.
The MP while not bad is nothing special and needs serious balancing.

The biggest let down with this game is that it really had potential. In the hands of a developer that actually gave a f@ck about polish and production value this could have been a great game. Shame!

And yes, the demo they showed and the amazing screenshots before release was a different game. This was false advertising.

Why does the multiplayer need balancing? Do you not need to get better?

Because the damage feels random. Sometimes I find it very easy to do double kills as an Alien with the tail splash against marines that shoot at me from close range and others I may strike one from behind a couple of times and get killed with one shot.

As a marine sometimes my bullets don't seem to connect with the hitboxes of the Aliens and they can kill me with one strike.
Others i can kill 3 or 4 of them in a row as they dash on to me without a problem.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Porkus Maximus on Feb 14, 2013, 10:32:51 AM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 14, 2013, 08:54:39 AM
I wouldn't think anything of it besides the fact that a new game has come out, and we've gotten some new people in here days, weeks, and months before the release of the game.

When AVP2010 came out, suddenly we got a load of new members giving the game 9/10 etc.  When the movies Predators or AVP:R came out, new members giving them 9/10 etc.  Coincidence? Perhaps.  However I've spoken to people who work in the industry and they told me that it is very common to have people who are paid to simply go around the internet and hype whatever product is being sold at the time. I'm not saying that everyone who likes A:CM is a paid stooge however it may be more likely than you think.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: LogansFolly on Feb 14, 2013, 10:53:24 AM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 14, 2013, 10:20:36 AM
Quote from: LogansFolly on Feb 14, 2013, 10:11:35 AM
The wall walk works ok.

Yeah. Okay. "it's ok." It's not as good as it could be. It's sluggish, especially when transitioning, which has gotten many people killed. Enough so that they have felt the need to ask in games i've been in if anyone else was having trouble with alien navigation. the front, back, and side motion gets switched around sometimes depending on which plane you are and which direction you are. Plus all the invisible clipping, which has blocked, but also knocked me off in places. This was never a problem in AVP or AVP 2. Gearbox should have taken notes.



Quote from: LogansFolly on Feb 14, 2013, 10:11:35 AM
you will die but you will take marines with you and if you have a team of aliens that also understand this you can easily over power the marines. Also the whole point is that you switch sides.... so if you dont enjoy the aliens part of the mp... soon its marine time and then you can get your scores up and have fun playing the game with your tracker out shittin your pants esp in extermination... i'm not trying to sell you the game.. am trying to tell you it is not as bad is being made out (mp only)

That's unacceptable in a game where kill count is the way to victory. If I kill them, and they kill me, it's a stalemate.

It's not a matter of liking one side over the other. I have no major preference. Marine is simply the easier one to pick up and play, and part of that has to do with the fact that the xenomorph controls are really shoddy. I'm a long time veteran of the Alien and AVP games, this isn't some noob crying foul over some new and mysterious shit. Gearbox tried to be cute and a little different with the alien design. The problem is their formula has taken the xeno game play experience away from what worked, and worked very well.

The combat in particular is built on this goofy idea that the alien stops moving when he attacks(Except for special attacks which you have to hold down.). They really should have replicated the functionality of AvP2. They didn't though. So the next best thing for them to do is fix what's fundamentally buggy and broken here. Navigation is vital. I shouldn't have to overcome buggy controls to become good at the game. That's not how it works.

Kill count the way to victory...? Not always... try something other than team death match? When does the alien stop moving to attack? Only the one button finishes and if you use those when you sneak behind a marine....? I don't blame my controls as much as you... when i die i die. It can be the poor controls fault but it's not as often as your making out. NO you don't have to over come the controls to become good at the game but you can't just rush a pack of marines from a wall or celing either... i can't understand your points and don't agree because i can play the game and am having a LOT of fun with it. Navigation is vital as you say... find a place to lie in wait... ambush the marines or marine. What's you being a vetran got to do with anything this isn't an avp game it's an aliens game... if you wanted more of the same play the old aliens games or COD? There the same year after year.

Please note i am not saying this is perfect BUT it's not completely broken either and it IS fun.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Porkus Maximus on Feb 14, 2013, 11:03:34 AM
QuoteWhen does the alien stop moving to attack?

Most melee attacks. The "flurry" ability is specifically unlocked to give you a melee attack that you can use while moving.

And if you haven't had any problems with wall walking you're very, very lucky.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Elicas on Feb 14, 2013, 11:47:23 AM
Quote from: DB on Feb 13, 2013, 11:20:27 PM
The law of "all dropship pilots must be women".

Just pointing it out, that started with Heinlein in the Starship Troopers book from 1059, he makes the argument in the book that male and female brains are quite different when it comes to the mental capacity of space flight. The majority of the Navy are female mathematicians.

I'm pretty sure the Marines in Aliens pretty much come straight out of his book in many places.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Cal427eb on Feb 14, 2013, 12:02:55 PM
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Feb 14, 2013, 11:03:34 AM
And if you haven't had any problems with wall walking you're very, very lucky.
Or he's bullshiting because the wall walk is absolutely horrible, it's not even close to being okay.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: LogansFolly on Feb 14, 2013, 12:06:04 PM
Quote from: Cal427eb on Feb 14, 2013, 12:02:55 PM
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Feb 14, 2013, 11:03:34 AM
And if you haven't had any problems with wall walking you're very, very lucky.
Or he's bullshiting because the wall walk is absolutely horrible, it's not even close to being okay.

Thanks for that... i can promise you i'm not. It's okay.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Dovahkiin on Feb 14, 2013, 12:17:12 PM
I've decided that I'm not getting this. I'm getting Far Cry 3 instead.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Cal427eb on Feb 14, 2013, 12:24:12 PM
Quote from: LogansFolly on Feb 14, 2013, 12:06:04 PM
Quote from: Cal427eb on Feb 14, 2013, 12:02:55 PM
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Feb 14, 2013, 11:03:34 AM
And if you haven't had any problems with wall walking you're very, very lucky.
Or he's bullshiting because the wall walk is absolutely horrible, it's not even close to being okay.

Thanks for that... i can promise you i'm not. It's okay.
No... it's not. All of the controls are broken for the Alien. It can almost be unplayable at times.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Elicas on Feb 14, 2013, 12:34:16 PM
Quote from: Dovahkiin on Feb 14, 2013, 12:17:12 PM
I've decided that I'm not getting this. I'm getting Far Cry 3 instead.

Good choice, awesome game. Pirated it to try it out, played for about an hour and a half, rushed out and bought a copy for myself, my brother and my wife.

That. f**king. Good.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Crazy Rich on Feb 14, 2013, 01:07:37 PM
I disagree with it having bad controls. I can dominate as an alien.

Yep, I've been playing multiplayer now. In one game I got 20 kills and 6 deaths as an alien soldier. I found that as an alien it's only a matter of using your brain. Also the spitter isn't as bad as I thought it'd be, I used it when doing the challenge in which you had to kill 10 enemies with acid spit, I got some 1 shot kills in there. I feel I need to understand the lurker more, especially if I need to pounce 3 enemies within 10 seconds. I've been a boiler once, may be ugly but poetic when it comes to damage. I still need to try out the Crusher, I've seen it done but I never seem to get the chance.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Cal427eb on Feb 14, 2013, 01:15:49 PM
Quote from: Crazy Rich on Feb 14, 2013, 01:07:37 PM
I disagree with it having bad controls. I can dominate as an alien.

Yep, I've been playing multiplayer now. In one game I got 20 kills and 6 deaths as an alien soldier. I found that as an alien it's only a matter of using your brain. Also the spitter isn't as bad as I thought it'd be, I used it when doing the challenge in which you had to kill 10 enemies with acid spit, I got some 1 shot kills in there. I feel I need to understand the lurker more, especially if I need to pounce 3 enemies within 10 seconds. I've been a boiler once, may be ugly but poetic when it comes to damage. I still need to try out the Crusher, I've seen it done but I never seem to get the chance.
It doesn't matter whether or not you can be successful the controls are still bad. Even with the horrible controls I would often have 2.0 K/D but the controls were still aggravating as hell. If the wall walk actually worked you could get so many more kills.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Crazy Rich on Feb 14, 2013, 01:22:41 PM
I believe that if I can do so well then the controls couldn't possibly be so bad as made out to be. Controls never even occurred to me until someone brought it up.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Prime113 on Feb 14, 2013, 01:23:19 PM
Quote from: Cal427eb on Feb 14, 2013, 01:15:49 PM
Quote from: Crazy Rich on Feb 14, 2013, 01:07:37 PM
I disagree with it having bad controls. I can dominate as an alien.

Yep, I've been playing multiplayer now. In one game I got 20 kills and 6 deaths as an alien soldier. I found that as an alien it's only a matter of using your brain. Also the spitter isn't as bad as I thought it'd be, I used it when doing the challenge in which you had to kill 10 enemies with acid spit, I got some 1 shot kills in there. I feel I need to understand the lurker more, especially if I need to pounce 3 enemies within 10 seconds. I've been a boiler once, may be ugly but poetic when it comes to damage. I still need to try out the Crusher, I've seen it done but I never seem to get the chance.
It doesn't matter whether or not you can be successful the controls are still bad. Even with the horrible controls I would often have 2.0 K/D but the controls were still aggravating as hell. If the wall walk actually worked you could get so many more kills.

Well, bad or not, Rich and I seem to be f**king shit up with Aliens. And, I must be the only one who can wall climb worth a damn in this game. Only a few times has it got aggrivating. And, Cal, I know you only played it for, like, one day.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Crazy Rich on Feb 14, 2013, 01:25:57 PM
Quote from: Prime113 on Feb 14, 2013, 01:23:19 PM
Quote from: Cal427eb on Feb 14, 2013, 01:15:49 PM
Quote from: Crazy Rich on Feb 14, 2013, 01:07:37 PM
I disagree with it having bad controls. I can dominate as an alien.

Yep, I've been playing multiplayer now. In one game I got 20 kills and 6 deaths as an alien soldier. I found that as an alien it's only a matter of using your brain. Also the spitter isn't as bad as I thought it'd be, I used it when doing the challenge in which you had to kill 10 enemies with acid spit, I got some 1 shot kills in there. I feel I need to understand the lurker more, especially if I need to pounce 3 enemies within 10 seconds. I've been a boiler once, may be ugly but poetic when it comes to damage. I still need to try out the Crusher, I've seen it done but I never seem to get the chance.
It doesn't matter whether or not you can be successful the controls are still bad. Even with the horrible controls I would often have 2.0 K/D but the controls were still aggravating as hell. If the wall walk actually worked you could get so many more kills.

Well, bad or not, Rich and I seem to be f**king shit up with Aliens. And, I must be the only one who can wall climb worth a damn in this game. Only a few times has it got aggrivating. And, Cal, I know you only played it for, like, one day.
It started out aggravating, but once you know what your doing it gets better and easier to wall climb.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ScardyFox on Feb 14, 2013, 01:49:22 PM
Quote from: Prime113 on Feb 14, 2013, 01:23:19 PM
Well, bad or not, Rich and I seem to be f**king shit up with Aliens.

Your inherent sissiness cast a dubious shadow on this.

Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Hellspawn28 on Feb 14, 2013, 02:00:31 PM
Here's Angry Joe's review of the game

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGX2WE4QUw8#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGX2WE4QUw8#ws)

He give it a 4/10
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Cal427eb on Feb 14, 2013, 02:07:40 PM
Quote from: Prime113 on Feb 14, 2013, 01:23:19 PM
Quote from: Cal427eb on Feb 14, 2013, 01:15:49 PM
Quote from: Crazy Rich on Feb 14, 2013, 01:07:37 PM
I disagree with it having bad controls. I can dominate as an alien.

Yep, I've been playing multiplayer now. In one game I got 20 kills and 6 deaths as an alien soldier. I found that as an alien it's only a matter of using your brain. Also the spitter isn't as bad as I thought it'd be, I used it when doing the challenge in which you had to kill 10 enemies with acid spit, I got some 1 shot kills in there. I feel I need to understand the lurker more, especially if I need to pounce 3 enemies within 10 seconds. I've been a boiler once, may be ugly but poetic when it comes to damage. I still need to try out the Crusher, I've seen it done but I never seem to get the chance.
It doesn't matter whether or not you can be successful the controls are still bad. Even with the horrible controls I would often have 2.0 K/D but the controls were still aggravating as hell. If the wall walk actually worked you could get so many more kills.

Well, bad or not, Rich and I seem to be f**king shit up with Aliens. And, I must be the only one who can wall climb worth a damn in this game. Only a few times has it got aggrivating. And, Cal, I know you only played it for, like, one day.
It was actually for two days  ::) and I got a good 6 hours out of it. So why does it matter how long I had it for?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Valaquen on Feb 14, 2013, 02:28:12 PM
I'm on the sewers level. Right now the biggest crime this game commits, that I can quickly summarise, is that it's boring. I stopped playing yesterday to do the dishes. The thought of revisiting Hadley's Hope is better than the reality - it comes across as overly familiar and derivative, and you spend all your time trying to shake off the incredulity that the colony survived.

Honestly, when Cameron fetishised the Marines and their weaponry in the film, you can see that he's doing it to set the Marines up to fall, and for a first time viewer you almost believe that they'll be able to at least stand their ground - which they don't. This game misses that completely.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Mihail on Feb 14, 2013, 03:07:00 PM
Finished the game on ultimate badass difficulty, it's the only way to play it & i can say it's an average game not the AAA title(like Dead Space 3) we were hoping it would be.It has a lot of bad parts & just a few good.I personally wanted a survival horror game, a good story & to fight the classic aliens we all know(no crusher, sitter, boiler etc.).Strange the materials about this game that appeared before the release didn't make it in the final product.The game feels unpolished, loots of bugs, it's like they didn't have testers or someone sabotaged it.I think next time the developers should listen to what the majority of fans want.I give it 5/10.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Grey_Yautja on Feb 14, 2013, 03:11:21 PM
Welp, thanks for all the info, all the opinions, and thanks Gearbox/Sega for yet another game that was overly hyped and completely sank. Think I'm going to play the AvP 2010 marine campaign now...at least that one was alright.

This is just me, but personally, I think it's high time Sega let the big game developers have a crack at making Alien games, like Bioware or Valve. Or just a bunch of honest-to-God devs that KNOW what they're doing and actually CARE for the game they're making.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: robbritton on Feb 14, 2013, 03:29:24 PM
Just finished it. That's the end?! Prometheus is looking like the forefront of narrative clarity right around now!
Spoiler
"that's a longer story"?! Christ, I could write you twenty explanations in as many seconds.
[close]
Lazy, lazy self-congratulatory swine. All I wanted was a bit of story.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: EmptyVector on Feb 14, 2013, 03:40:11 PM
I pretty much pre-ordered my copy of the collectors edition of the game as soon as it was available. I am a big Aliens fan as quite and collect a lot of the collectibles so it was something I wanted for my collection. The special edition came with some nice extra's and a pretty decent quality figurine.

After playing it for a few days and getting a feel for the game, I now feel I can comment on it. Now I know full well that I am an aliens fanboy BUT I am not blind to a games flaws and issues. I was going back to the E3 2010 10 minute game footage and wondered "Um, why wasn't any of this cool stuff in the finished product?" To say I was disappointed with the games campaign would be a understatement. The levels were heavily scripted and boiled down to essentially a corridor shooter. The plot had some "WTF" moments and the over use of Weyland Yutani mercs instead of aliens as the main enemies just felt wrong. There was one level I felt got the feeling right and I just wished that they had more levels like that. You are unarmed and you are being stalked by a massive xeno and you have to navigate through a dark sewer filled with alien husks and a new alien type called a boiler that reacts to your movement.

The lighting effects in this game are very good though, environments look okay but aren't pushing any envelopes in terms of graphic fidelity. But the atmosphere is spot on and the sound effects are taken directly from the movie.

Enemy A.I however is dumb, I wished we had more alien A.I similar to the lurker that moved round and attempted to flank and ambush you. Once again I look back at the 10 minute game demo where you see aliens squeeze through little gaps and slink into the ceiling to try and attack you from unexpected angles. The human A.I tends to line up and let themselves be shot, they take cover behind crates but they are small enough for you to still be able to shoot them. Partner A.I is equally bad as half the time they tend to shoot at walls or completely miss enemies.

The multiplayer aspect of the game however is what I like about the game. You have many different perks and abilities to tryout for both alien and humans but I am having a lot of fun with it. My favourite mode so far is Extermination as it forces you and your opponents to move around the map and capture objective. Escape mode and Survival mode is also fun with some interesting scenarios and tense moments.

Overall I feel Gearbox jilted me, the promises Randy Pitchford made were not met and it's clear that palming it off to other developers so you could work on Borderlands 2 didn't work out for you. It could have been so much more and from that 10 minute gameplay video released at E3, I was expecting it to be much more. What we got though was watered down, Gearbox knew the fans would buy it anyway so they put it in the hands of other developers rather then work on the project themselves.

I give the game a 6 out of 10
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Njm1983 on Feb 14, 2013, 03:42:46 PM
redboxed it last night, especially after reading some members saying the multiplayer is fun.

Happily it is fun, though the alien has a hell of a learning curve. My first round I died the whole time as the alien, though as the marine I felt much more comfortable. The motion tracker usage is the absolute best part of this game - despite all the ranting on the dot colors, There is a sense of paranoia that comes from using the tracker and not having a weapon out.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Prime113 on Feb 14, 2013, 03:45:53 PM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Feb 14, 2013, 01:49:22 PM
Quote from: Prime113 on Feb 14, 2013, 01:23:19 PM
Well, bad or not, Rich and I seem to be f**king shit up with Aliens.

Your inherent sissiness cast a dubious shadow on this.

You wantin some of this, Foxy?!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: YutaniDitch on Feb 14, 2013, 04:40:57 PM
Hello there, guys... I just wanted to tell that this trend of outsourcing games to invest on cell shaded Borderlands 2 is a slap on the face of Aliens fans, especially when they profess to be fans of the franchise... Also, it becomes quite clear from comparing the gameplay demos from 2011 that this game was redone... The fights, the dialogue, the awesome graphics were gone, never to be seen again... NO atmospheric darkness, which was actually required since Hadley's Hope was supposedly without any power after being nuked, although the damage to the infrastructure was pretty minimised in the game...

I have seen the comparison between the demo and the final thing and it pissed me off... I was going to let it slide, as I did in my review, but having been reminded of HOW GREAT the visuals were on the demo, I am disgusted to see Gearbox smearing their record like this... That is what happens when you outsource what coudl have been a huge and great game...

I think they can minimise the graphics bit with an HD patch, but the dialogue, the firefights, the rest, is irretrievable... The demo looked amazing and it was just two years ago... How in the hell did it devolve into this?! I mean, the graphics are somewhat ok, but not at all when you compare them with the  gameplay demo... What the hell happened, Gearbox?!


By the way, even a moron can cook up some maps and make it fun... The campaign is where the difficulty lies... I am tired of people saying that COD games, Medal of HOnor, and this one is to be played online... WHat the crap?! Are you really willing to spend what you spend on a console game just to play online?! I sure as hell don't, especially an Aliens one...  The demo was going te right way... Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed it for the nods and outdoors, but with the sample from the demo, it would have been dynamite with those graphics, that level of darkness and effects...

So, I am not rethinking my review of the game, since it was my first reaction to the game itself and the enjoyment of it, WITHOUT remembering the gameplay demo that was what made me think this game would be awesome!

BUt like I said, always be afraid of a game that takes 3 years to do and with other games being done by the developer... Hell, it could even be FOX meddling in it, as they are so well-known of doing... I think that Gearbox is the sole to blame, because it was their job to do the game... The outsourced company was given a poisoned apple to chew on! AND Gearbox was the one marketing the game as well, so sorry, Gearbox, when most fans of Aliens disliked it, you know you fouled it up!

Cheers!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ScardyFox on Feb 14, 2013, 04:54:37 PM
Quote from: Prime113 on Feb 14, 2013, 03:45:53 PM
Quote from: ScardyFox on Feb 14, 2013, 01:49:22 PM
Quote from: Prime113 on Feb 14, 2013, 01:23:19 PM
Well, bad or not, Rich and I seem to be f**king shit up with Aliens.

Your inherent sissiness cast a dubious shadow on this.

You wantin some of this, Foxy?!


Sadly I am on PS3 or I would gladly rend the flesh from your bloated corpse!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Le Celticant on Feb 14, 2013, 05:30:47 PM
Just to point a word on a couple of points that are used here and here in every reviews.

We do all acknowledge (I believe at least) that by registering on any Alien/Predator forum you are a fan.
There's no need to justify yourself here, we share a common love for the licence (well at least what's good in it  ;D but that's a different topic).
Also want to say (not sure if it was here or on Gearbox forums that it was said multiple time by trying to justify their point of view) that "true" fan does not exist otherwise we do have "false" fan which makes absolutely no sense at all.

Just my 2 useless cents to the community I love.
Love ya bro.

---------------------------------------

IMO A:CM doesn't just insult the fans (that would be too easy) it simply insult consumers.
There's no way you can expect good reception when your actual demo looks better than final product and when the Networking system, which is supposed to be the big point of every Alien / Predator / AVP game is broken.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Elicas on Feb 14, 2013, 05:53:36 PM
Quote from: Darkness on Apr 22, 2008, 06:26:40 PM
AvPR all the way. Nothing will be as bad as that.

Admittedly that post was 5 years ago now, but would be interesting to see how Darkness compares the two :P
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Cal427eb on Feb 14, 2013, 05:57:52 PM
Quote from: Elicas on Feb 14, 2013, 05:53:36 PM
Quote from: Darkness on Apr 22, 2008, 06:26:40 PM
AvPR all the way. Nothing will be as bad as that.

Admittedly that post was 5 years ago now, but would be interesting to see how Darkness compares the two :P
I think I remember him saying that he was enjoying the game.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Salt The Fries on Feb 14, 2013, 06:44:48 PM
What I'm most afraid of is the fact it might be very difficult to tie in any aliens-related games to the existing universe from now on.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: R-850-A on Feb 14, 2013, 07:21:43 PM

Hi everybody. I been waiting for this game since a read from it in 2008, and was one of my 3 reasons for buy an Xbox 360 (the other two were Halo 3 and AvP 2010). Every day since then I been cheking the news, and get a really bit, angry >:( when I knew that A: CM will be realeased until 2013. When the pre-orders were announced, I purchased the collectors edition and even I made a video review the day the game was released, and I played it with my brother, and we finish it yesterday, but the 12/20/13 I make the mistake of reading the critics and get so angry, that I did go to the gearbox software forums and told them that A:CM is the first (at least from my point of view) the first decent Aliens game since AvP 2, but yesterday I tought that the critics were not so wrong, even I almost get sick ??? of thinking, but my brother told me that I don´t have nothing to worry about it, and I keep my position, Aliens colonial marines is the first Aliens decent game since Aliens vs. Predator 2, it has its failures, but at least, is superior in comparison with the "AvP 3", and, to keep my position I asked myself, "If the game is so bad, why I started to play it again just yesterday?" Theres a litle things that could be done better, but the game fullfill it´s work for entertainment, my brother enjoy it, I enjoy it, and it worth the almost 160 dollars (in Mexico almost 1600 pesos). My advice, for the people that didn´t do it, play it, finish it, a commet. And for the ones who say that the game is not scare, it would be because it is harder scare the people now than 25 years ago, for example, I look for scary images in the night, to relax  8)
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Elicas on Feb 14, 2013, 07:24:41 PM
Quote from: R-850-A on Feb 14, 2013, 07:21:43 PM
the first decent Aliens game since AvP 2

That's a damning verdict on the state of the franchise, not a plus point for this game.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Salt The Fries on Feb 14, 2013, 07:25:49 PM
Facehuggers which magically burrow underneath an egg and ground and can't get un-stuck aren't scary.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: SM on Feb 14, 2013, 09:54:50 PM
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Feb 14, 2013, 06:44:48 PM
What I'm most afraid of is the fact it might be very difficult to tie in any aliens-related games to the existing universe from now on.

How so?

Ain't nobody going to want to hitch their wagon to A:CM.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: szkoki on Feb 14, 2013, 10:07:34 PM
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Feb 14, 2013, 06:44:48 PM
What I'm most afraid of is the fact it might be very difficult to tie in any aliens-related games to the existing universe from now on.

screw the existing universe...avp 2 was good as an independent decent story for me...even though it was nothing magical, it was simple as it has to be
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Xenomorphine on Feb 15, 2013, 01:37:51 AM
Quote from: Valaquen on Feb 14, 2013, 02:28:12 PM
Honestly, when Cameron fetishised the Marines and their weaponry in the film, you can see that he's doing it to set the Marines up to fall, and for a first time viewer you almost believe that they'll be able to at least stand their ground - which they don't. This game misses that completely.

This. I cannot express hard enough how I repeatedly wanted this sentiment needed to be rammed into the developers' minds, right from the very start.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Mister T on Feb 15, 2013, 02:09:58 AM
Gearbox is definitely feeling the wrath of the disappointed fan...  though they really don't seem to care too much.

Their forum is full - FULL - of complaints about how bad the story is and how poorly the game plays.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: SM on Feb 15, 2013, 03:04:06 AM
They resurrect a formerly vapourised colony and someone who recently visited it.

Anyone who expected a good story after that was delusional.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: winter 223 on Feb 15, 2013, 04:08:54 AM
I bout the game the day it came out and beat it with in 10 hours witch for me is the only thing i can do because the PS3 i use wont hook up to the net hot spot i have all in all playing this game was fun i just wish they didn't make it so short or put the time line after the second movie.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: SM on Feb 15, 2013, 04:35:30 AM
The timeline is after the second movie.  It's also after the third.

There's precious little time to set anything substantial after Aliens, before Alien3 begins.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Feb 15, 2013, 04:40:02 AM
Honestly, if the game devs and companies are so fixated on developing Colonial Marines shooters over and over, why not mix it up? Consult with Fox and then do a CM game like the CM property I've always imagined in my head: Marines doing something other than fighting the ultra-rare aliens of LV-426.

We always spec about what else these Marines get up to for regular service, and we never see it. The most we have to go on are a few lines in Aliens and an old RPG sourcebook. Even the old Dark Horse comic is just "more aliens and Vasquez's sister lol". Do they encounter other extraterrestrials or not? Do they put down colony uprisings? Terrorists? What? If they really wanted to interest me in the f**king Marines, they'd do a game showing what the USCM actually get up to in a normal tour of duty.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Cal427eb on Feb 15, 2013, 04:42:19 AM
No. That would completely ruin the point of the game being set in the Aliens universe... why have them face against terrorists when every other modern shooter does that? There should be few to zero human enemies in a Colonial Marine game.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Feb 15, 2013, 04:46:24 AM
Fine, but that begs the question of the sheer implausibility of doing at least a half-dozen games where the Colonial Marines keep running into the f**king aliens over and over and over. There's a reason I couldn't give a shit about any more CM shoot-em-ups.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: SM on Feb 15, 2013, 04:51:43 AM
A mission involving something other than Aliens could be a place to start, but after that lots of Aliens plz.

Maybe they go to some colony to take on a terrorist cell only to find WY has dropped a few eggs off to take them out itself as well as observe what happens.  Carnage ensues.

Call it Aliens : Urban Pacification.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Xenomorphine on Feb 15, 2013, 05:46:14 AM
'Arcturian Nightmare: Operation STD'
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Feb 15, 2013, 05:49:45 AM
It's a dating sim courtesy of Atlus.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Cabo Grake69 on Feb 15, 2013, 09:34:30 AM
Hi everyone

Though I´ve not finished the game (I´ve only completed 5 missions of the SP), I think It´s time for me to share my personal opinion with you. I´ll try to explain myself as good as my english skills allows me...be awared of the language issues.

First of all I´d like to give you some context; I´m a fan like you. I´ve been playing for years to AVP and other "Alien related games". Needless to say that I also enjoy the films in a way only you can imagine. The day the game came out, I bought  for it my PS3. I was really excited and I wanted it to be great.

Having saind that, let´s start with the review: Words can not express how dissapointed I am. In previous post I read someone saying something about "It´ s our duty as players to let people know we´ve been deceived". Those fans  also mentioned that we are entitled to complain, for this game is an insult to us (not only to us as fans but also as costumers). Well, right now I can say They were absolutelly right. I couldnt agree more with their statements for there is no possible way to defend this game.

At the begining (I mean, during the first minutes of the first mission) I thought to myself "well, grafics are dated but I´ll be able to cope with it". But that impression dissapeared as soon as aliens started moving. That was the moment in which I realised how wrong things were. The game feels so broken, so incompleted...

Since a picture is worth a thousand words, I´ll refer to the video in which differences between the E3 DEMO and the actual game are showed. That´s how Gearbox have treated us; just like if we were stupid. I can imagine Pitchford laughing and saying "oh, lets make another video saying how good this piece of crap is, those suckers are buying it anyway!" 

The mayor crime this game commits is that It´s continually displaying the potencial this franchise has. I found myself thinking "oh if they had done this and that the game would be amazing...". Hell, I must confess I really enjoyed the raven mission! (as a matter of fact I think It´s the only thing that safes the game for getting lowers reviews). But that´s the thing! I found myself doing efforts to like the game, and that´s unacceptable.

The multiplayers is fun but again, I cant help but think Im just enjoying it because of my love to aliens. What would be the opinion of those who do not share that feeling?.

I could go on forever, but Im afraid Im just repeating what others have said. To sump up, It´s a pitty... and a shame. I cant stop thinking... How long will we have to wait until a good alien game? Maybe ACM has killed the last opportunity we had...Damn you Gearbox, Damn you Sega or whoever the hell was responsible of this!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: teras on Feb 15, 2013, 10:35:08 AM
Quote from: Mister T on Feb 15, 2013, 02:09:58 AM
Gearbox is definitely feeling the wrath of the disappointed fan...  though they really don't seem to care too much.

Their forum is full - FULL - of complaints about how bad the story is and how poorly the game plays.

It's also full of apologists saying things like "It's a bussiness and Randy had to sell it" or "Demos don't represent the final game" and stuff like that. God, these people disgust me  :o
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: SiL on Feb 15, 2013, 10:42:49 AM
They disgust you for telling the truth?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: teras on Feb 15, 2013, 10:44:57 AM
Quote from: SiL on Feb 15, 2013, 10:42:49 AM
They disgust you for telling the truth?

For making excuses. I thought it was obvious.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: SiL on Feb 15, 2013, 11:01:08 AM
They're still telling the truth. Pitchford did have to sell the game and demos don't reflect final product.

These things don't excuse them releasing what is, plainly, a broken game, but still.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: teras on Feb 15, 2013, 11:27:37 AM
Quote from: SiL on Feb 15, 2013, 11:01:08 AM
They're still telling the truth. Pitchford did have to sell the game and demos don't reflect final product.

These things don't excuse them releasing what is, plainly, a broken game, but still.

Are you arguing semantics?

Yes, I have to sell you a car insurance to make a living but when your car breaks down and you are not covered for assistance when I had told you that you were, will you use the same line? That I still had to sell you insurance to make a living?

Please bro don't insult people's intelligence.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Raku on Feb 15, 2013, 11:44:08 AM
Quote from: teras on Feb 15, 2013, 10:35:08 AM"Demos don't represent the final game"
Yes, but generally demos should not be better than the final release. I can understand removing features that were featured in a demo because of either time restraints and/or issues that feature may be causing, but to flat out do a complete overhaul of the entire game? I'm sorry no, I can't accept that. Also the fact that the actual game is more stripped down, and less immersive (or just plain worse) than the demo is a disappointment.

Hell I had no interest in this game (didn't follow development like you guys), and looking at that demo makes me want to give that game some sort of a chance. Even if I am not a fan of playing as a marine, and prefer to be on team Xenomorph. Sad fact is... The final game doesn't live up to that demo! XD

Makes me question how future demos, and trailers will work for other games. Will more companies be lying to us in trailers, and demos like Gearbox did with A:CM?

I don't know, but I really don't like that defense...

It feels like a cop out =/
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Salt The Fries on Feb 15, 2013, 04:04:24 PM
I want to thank God for Remedy not sinking so low with Alan Wake like Gearbox did with Aliens: Colonial Marines. The only things that got hurt in the process of making Alan Wake were: reduced scope of the game, facial animations and certain blocky parts of the characters' bodies (like knees)...

Even Ubisoft after the development hell of Splinter Cell: Conviction ultimately delivered an enjoyable and polished game...
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: shakermakerman on Feb 15, 2013, 10:57:35 PM
People can say what they like about this game....... But Bellas ass is awesome... ;D
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Inverse Effect on Feb 16, 2013, 12:58:04 AM
Even from a fans perspective when playing the game. Is it just a bad game overall? I'm asking this. Because AVP3 i found some faults with. But i love playing that game. Even though i dont have a computer to run it anymore.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: pixelbaron on Feb 16, 2013, 01:01:23 AM
It's just a bad game, period.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ShadowPred on Feb 16, 2013, 01:02:03 AM
A horrifyingly awful game that is also covered in controversy.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: RedHood on Feb 16, 2013, 01:08:52 AM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 16, 2013, 01:02:03 AM
A horrifyingly awful game that is also covered in controversy.
Quote from: pixelbaron on Feb 16, 2013, 01:01:23 AM
It's just a bad game, period.

True... But you can have allot of fun with MP in my opinion.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ShadowPred on Feb 16, 2013, 03:05:38 AM
Quote from: shakermakerman on Feb 15, 2013, 10:57:35 PM
People can say what they like about this game....... But Bellas ass is awesome... ;D


This being the best to offer is not going to make anyone happy.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Hellspawn28 on Feb 16, 2013, 03:06:30 AM
I find it funny that Aliens Extermination was a better game then ACM was. AE feel more like a real ACM game and I love playing it when to go the arcades at the beach in the past few years. I rather play that instead of ACM :(.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: OpenMaw on Feb 16, 2013, 03:11:30 AM
Quote from: shakermakerman on Feb 15, 2013, 10:57:35 PM
People can say what they like about this game....... But Bellas ass is awesome... ;D

Yeah, but her personality is so shitty that any physically attractive qualities she might have are meaningless.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Space Sweeper on Feb 16, 2013, 03:13:34 AM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 16, 2013, 03:11:30 AM
Quote from: shakermakerman on Feb 15, 2013, 10:57:35 PM
People can say what they like about this game....... But Bellas ass is awesome... ;D

Yeah, but her personality is so shitty that any physically attractive qualities she might have are meaningless.
She's the only character I didn't mind having a single facial expression, because it matched her character's single note.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: RubberChickenMan on Feb 16, 2013, 06:35:16 AM
Ok ok so earlier I gave the game an 8.5 before beating the game. Not that I have encountered the final boss and beat it here's my review.

was desperate for a good aliens game I really wanted this to be good. Heck I actually did enjoy the first couple of chapters. But it kept getting worse and worse as I was going on.

Glitches galore! Story was ok at first but when we got to hicks...lol. Guns felt good even better than avp2010. Aliens are aggressive until they get stuck in a wall and start having a xenoseizure.

5/10
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: The Runner on Feb 16, 2013, 04:40:25 PM
I had an alien floating midair.  :o
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Cal427eb on Feb 16, 2013, 04:44:29 PM
Quote from: The Runner on Feb 16, 2013, 04:40:25 PM
I had an alien floating midair.  :o
That was because of the radiation.... I think...
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Dusk on Feb 16, 2013, 04:59:01 PM
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Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Bjørn Half-hand on Feb 16, 2013, 05:06:33 PM
You know, when this game inevitably goes on Steam sale for 75% off I may pick this up just to giggle at the AI and bugs.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Anonymous684 on Feb 16, 2013, 05:10:36 PM
Well finally got around to beating it.

PC REVIEW!



Bug issues that i encountered
- ZERO

Problem with the game that i did have:
-The Aliens AI bothered me and i truly wished they were smarter but they tried :P
-The boiler level was super boring and not frightening.
-The Cut Scenes had horrible graphics.
-SOME textures were really bad but not a big deal to me (computer screens, misc items)

I never planned on the story to be mind blowing so i had pretty damn low expectations from the start. It's a game.... I was never going to accept it as a sequel to ALIENS. But that's just me.

I feel very lucky for not experiencing all these issues people are having with the game. The game it self ran very smooth for me and the graphics maxed out on the PC were not bad at all (like i said except for some textures). My marine AI never shot at walls or did stupid things. They had dead shot accuracy and never strayed or anything. I never had and alien, marine, or WY solider get stuck in or around anything.

The Multiplayer is very fun to play with friends. Me and my clan on steam have been wrecking shit and communicating with teamspeak.... such a blast.

Problems i do have with multiplayer:
-few maps
-Alien wall climbing needs to get patched (i've gotten use to it but by all means it should be no wear as awkward as it is)

Ratings:
Graphics: 7.5
Sound: 8
Campaign: 5 (With friends playing in your squad i'd boost this score up to a 7 just for fun factor)
Multiplayer: 7.5

OVERALL: 7/10 From the Psycho!

The multiplayer player really helps save the game for me from such a weak boring campaign!

Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: RagingDragon on Feb 16, 2013, 05:15:00 PM
Great review, Psycho. 8) Glad you're having some fun with it. I'd be all up in that if you were on Xbox or I had a PC. :laugh:
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Inverse Effect on Feb 16, 2013, 06:16:08 PM
That one part in the E3 demo with the marine character and his middle finger has more marine character then the entire game has haha. I know its from Angry Joe, but its kinda true, epsecially after looking at the retard o'neal.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ShadowPred on Feb 16, 2013, 07:12:52 PM
Quote from: Guts on Feb 16, 2013, 06:16:08 PM
That one part in the E3 demo with the marine character and his middle finger has more marine character then the entire game has haha. I know its from Angry Joe, but its kinda true, epsecially after looking at the retard o'neal.


It really is true, there's more personality there than in anything else I have seen since this game's release.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: RazorSlash on Feb 16, 2013, 07:51:29 PM
I really liked that bit of dialogue between the two marines from the E3 demo. I really did.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ShadowPred on Feb 16, 2013, 08:00:36 PM
Quote from: RazorSlash on Feb 16, 2013, 07:51:29 PM
I really liked that bit of dialogue between the two marines from the E3 demo. I really did.


We can only hope that THIS game gets made one day.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: RazorSlash on Feb 16, 2013, 08:02:27 PM
The only thing this game has done is that now my friends taunt me about it's existence when we play PS All-Stars, which in turn causes me to shout "SIX YEARS" uncontrollably and proceed to target everything in-game in a blind rage.

This is how I cope.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Feb 16, 2013, 08:22:39 PM
So is it worth DLing the demo, then?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ShadowPred on Feb 16, 2013, 08:24:07 PM
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Feb 16, 2013, 08:22:39 PM
So is it worth DLing the demo, then?


There's a demo?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Feb 16, 2013, 08:25:59 PM
Oh, I assumed the demo everyone was referring as being so different from the game was readily available. I haven't paid much attention to the game up to now really as I wasn't into another FPS.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Bjørn Half-hand on Feb 16, 2013, 08:28:18 PM
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Feb 16, 2013, 08:25:59 PM
Oh, I assumed the demo everyone was referring as being so different from the game was readily available. I haven't paid much attention to the game up to now really as I wasn't into another FPS.

For me that's why this whole debacle is so sad; it is just another FPS. It was hailed as so much more by the devs.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: RazorSlash on Feb 16, 2013, 08:28:32 PM
We're referring to the gameplay demo that was shown off at E3.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Inverse Effect on Feb 16, 2013, 08:39:49 PM
didn't you know demos hurt sales lol. Because it allows people to try crap before they spend their hard earned money on it. This industry is slowly turning into crap
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Bjørn Half-hand on Feb 16, 2013, 08:43:17 PM
Quote from: Guts on Feb 16, 2013, 08:39:49 PM
didn't you know demos hurt sales lol. Because it allows people to try crap before they spend their hard earned money on it. This industry is slowly turning into crap

Yep review embargoes (at least this time some gamers got the game early so we got a heads up, just think if they hadn't, we wouldn't have found out how terrible this game was until release day) and no demos, not good for consumers.
I won't buy any game on launch day now. No review, no demo, no launch day purchases from me.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: RagingDragon on Feb 16, 2013, 09:47:42 PM
Quote from: Guts on Feb 16, 2013, 08:39:49 PM
didn't you know demos hurt sales lol. Because it allows people to try crap before they spend their hard earned money on it. This industry is slowly turning into crap

Guts, that set. :D
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Hubbs on Feb 17, 2013, 06:03:52 AM
So judging by all the threads this game isn't very good?  :o
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ShadowPred on Feb 17, 2013, 06:12:14 AM
Quote from: Hubbs on Feb 17, 2013, 06:03:52 AM
So judging by all the threads this game isn't very good?  :o


If you've been reading everything then you would know the answer by now.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Hubbs on Feb 17, 2013, 07:43:51 AM
I haven't read them all, gimme the gist of it ;)
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Xenomorphine on Feb 17, 2013, 07:53:50 AM
Quote from: Hubbs on Feb 17, 2013, 07:43:51 AM
I haven't read them all, gimme the gist of it ;)

Just press 'play'. It's easier this way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGX2WE4QUw8#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGX2WE4QUw8#ws)
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ShadowPred on Feb 17, 2013, 07:55:11 AM
Quote from: Hubbs on Feb 17, 2013, 07:43:51 AM
I haven't read them all, gimme the gist of it ;)

1. Basically being given horrible reviews.

2. Complaints about the A.I. being awful

3. Gearbox apparently outsourced the game to at least two other companies, some say three.

4. The demo we saw in 2011 is not in the game, doesn't look anything like it, the Alien A.I. is actually better there, the personality of the marines actually show up in the demo while in the actual game they are devoid of life, especially when they have no facial animation. The entire demo, despite Randy saying that it was in the game, was a fabrication made for E3.

5. The story is horrendous

6. One character who makes their appearance, even though dying one the films just waves off their apparent "revival"

7. The game takes but a few hours to finish, some as quick as 4 hours.

8. The game has no suspense, the Aliens just bum rush you, they hardly use their environments as in previous games.

9. You fight humans in this game - most of the game takes place fighting people - essentially becoming a typical shooter that we all see every day.

10. The Aliens are only solely focused on for at least three missions.

12. The whole canonical issue



There's probably more, but even I don't look into every thread.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Nightlord on Feb 17, 2013, 01:10:32 PM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 17, 2013, 07:55:11 AM
Quote from: Hubbs on Feb 17, 2013, 07:43:51 AM
I haven't read them all, gimme the gist of it ;)

1. Basically being given horrible reviews.

2. Complaints about the A.I. being awful

3. Gearbox apparently outsourced the game to at least two other companies, some say three.

4. The demo we saw in 2011 is not in the game, doesn't look anything like it, the Alien A.I. is actually better there, the personality of the marines actually show up in the demo while in the actual game they are devoid of life, especially when they have no facial animation. The entire demo, despite Randy saying that it was in the game, was a fabrication made for E3.

5. The story is horrendous

6. One character who makes their appearance, even though dying one the films just waves off their apparent "revival"

7. The game takes but a few hours to finish, some as quick as 4 hours.

8. The game has no suspense, the Aliens just bum rush you, they hardly use their environments as in previous games.

9. You fight humans in this game - most of the game takes place fighting people - essentially becoming a typical shooter that we all see every day.

10. The Aliens are only solely focused on for at least three missions.

12. The whole canonical issue



There's probably more, but even I don't look into every thread.
The glitches.
There is enough in this game for someone to make a youtube series called glitchhunter.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: XenoGauge on Feb 17, 2013, 06:06:53 PM
Has anyone seen this fan review on Amazon...

QuotePeople seem to have jumped on the hate band wagon..., 14 Feb 2013
By Bazza= Fun: 
This review is from: Aliens: Colonial Marines: Limited Edition (PS3) (Video Game)
Well after reading the reviews and watching videos mocking on the net I had little hope for this game.
I then heard it tied in with the movies so i fancied to see how they put it across. And to my surprise I really enjoyed this game! After reading review after review, i was expecting something really bad.... And trust me its not a bad game infact its very good. It feels like you are in the movie Aliens, the sounds the music and the atmosphere, yes there is a few glitchs here and there it does not spoil the game what so ever. I felt I had to put this review up to give the game a fair crack, because all the so called critisism that this game has been getting is not called for. I suggest you buy the game and make your own minds, because I nearly didnt. All I can think is that its cool to hate (get off the band wagon). If you love first person shooters you will love this game ...

I mean, what the hell... this guy must work for gearbox?!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Xenomorphine on Feb 17, 2013, 06:08:43 PM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Faebf1190375047f0ca6b51a71793601e%2Ftumblr_mhsqfy6qna1s3a9mvo1_500.gif&hash=14613b257c3284b872c8bd940cbd6d337e540520)
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: RagingDragon on Feb 17, 2013, 06:55:52 PM
I'm not one to get mad that people like the game, of course, but to claim that it's "like Aliens.." I mean, what exactly was it like watching that movie for you? Colonial Marines makes me feel more like I'm in a B-movie version of "The Rock"..

Do you remember dudes running down hallways mowing down hundreds of dim-witted Aliens who could barely manage their way around the place?

Or all kinds of ridiculous plot holes that aren't even addressed? Or a handful of strange, freakish, and very ridiculous looking Alien variants running around, again with no explanation? Or the marines fighting a few companies worth of corporate mercenaries?

How in the hell does it make you feel like you're in "Aliens" unless you watched that movie when you were 8 years old and didn't understand much to any of the 'finer points' of the film outside of teh sweet gunz and dem alienz...
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Elicas on Feb 17, 2013, 06:58:41 PM
Quote from: RagingDragon on Feb 17, 2013, 06:55:52 PM
I'm not one to get mad that people like the game, of course, but to claim that it's "like Aliens.." I mean, what exactly was it like watching that movie for you? Colonial Marines makes me feel more like I'm in a B-movie version of "The Rock"..

Do you remember dudes running down hallways mowing down hundreds of dim-witted Aliens who could barely manage their way around the place?

Or all kinds of ridiculous plot holes that aren't even addressed? Or a handful of strange, freakish, and very ridiculous looking Alien variants running around, again with no explanation? Or the marines fighting a few companies worth of corporate mercenaries?

How in the hell does it make you feel like you're in "Aliens" unless you watched that movie when you were 8 years old and didn't understand much to any of the 'finer points' of the film outside of teh sweet gunz and dem alienz...

But that's who the game is obviously marketed at mate, same as Gearbox and Randy Pitchford have proved themselves to be.

They're not Aliens fans, they're fans of Hudson from the first twenty minutes after they awake from Cryo.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: RagingDragon on Feb 17, 2013, 07:24:52 PM
Quote from: Elicas on Feb 17, 2013, 06:58:41 PM

But that's who the game is obviously marketed at mate, same as Gearbox and Randy Pitchford have proved themselves to be.

They're not Aliens fans, they're fans of Hudson from the first twenty minutes after they awake from Cryo.
:D Great post was great.

Look into my eye.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mrnuke.com%2Fpics%2Fapone1.jpg&hash=c057b82108e85304ad5f77f712a5a104010397d8)

It does seem like they may have only watched the first half of the film...
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Elicas on Feb 17, 2013, 07:30:10 PM
Quote from: RagingDragon on Feb 17, 2013, 07:24:52 PM
Quote from: Elicas on Feb 17, 2013, 06:58:41 PM

But that's who the game is obviously marketed at mate, same as Gearbox and Randy Pitchford have proved themselves to be.

They're not Aliens fans, they're fans of Hudson from the first twenty minutes after they awake from Cryo.
:D Great post was great.

Look into my eye.

http://www.mrnuke.com/pics/apone1.jpg

It does seem like they may have only watched the first half of the film...

Lol thanks.

I get the impression Randy is still like a 14 year old, attempting to put himself in the story. When they're getting their asses kicked in the Hive, he basically wanted to say "f**k this shit guys, we're marines, like, oorah to ashes. SMARTGUNZ AND PULSE RIFLES f**k YEAH ALIENZ DEAD!" I can see him being the kinda guy who sulked at the end of the film when Hudson gets bumf**ked, then sobbed hysterically during Alien 3 when Hicks got killed.

In fact there are more than a few people on this very forum still whining about Hicks death some twenty years later. This is who the game was directed at, those who just can't let go and accept the fact that the marines, they went and done and lost.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Sabres21768 on Feb 17, 2013, 07:32:52 PM
Here's my review...

Finished the Marine campaign in 8 hours.

That is seriously RI-DAMN-DICULOUS!

This game was a FAIL!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ShadowPred on Feb 17, 2013, 07:39:15 PM
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Feb 17, 2013, 07:32:52 PM
Here's my review...

Finished the Marine campaign in 8 hours.

That is seriously RI-DAMN-DICULOUS!

This game was a FAIL!


QFT
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Dusk on Feb 17, 2013, 07:39:23 PM
8 hours seems pretty good actually, for linear shooter. Though when you realize you can actually blast through it in 4-6 hours, it looks different.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ShadowPred on Feb 17, 2013, 07:46:15 PM
I can forgive games being that short, if they're actually fun to play. A game being short but fun goes a long way for me.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Dusk on Feb 17, 2013, 07:53:49 PM
True. I remember days when I finished Neversoft's Spider-Man on the PS1, like twice a day. Maybe even 3 times, I'm not sure. It was short, but so much fun that I played through it again, and again, and again. I don't think I've ever finished a game as often as that one.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ShadowPred on Feb 17, 2013, 07:56:50 PM
Quote from: Dusk on Feb 17, 2013, 07:53:49 PM
True. I remember days when I finished Neversoft's Spider-Man on the PS1, like twice a day. Maybe even 3 times, I'm not sure. It was short, but so much fun that I played through it again, and again, and again. I don't think I've ever finished a game as often as that one.

Agreed, that game was played to death when I had it, such good times.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Salt The Fries on Feb 17, 2013, 08:49:26 PM
The worst thing is you can never fail a QTE showdown with a facehugger...nor with any of the adult species for that matter...unless you really try hard NOT TO.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Dusk on Feb 17, 2013, 08:55:19 PM
Man, that stuff should just be instant death. The only way QTEs should be involved, is if it's a co-op sequence. Would have been awesome if they made it like the movie. You have a Facehugger jump at you, and got seconds left, to have another player aid you, to pull it off, and throw it a safe distance away, so you can shoot it.

And regular Aliens? If it were up to me, I would have added a context sensitive action. By yourself, you don't have a chance. The Alien is on you and mauls you till your health depletes completely. Another player can get it off, but only by using his entire weight and drop kicking it off you. But the action causes you to end up on the ground as well. Non of that stupid pushing it off or pistol whipping it.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: RagingDragon on Feb 17, 2013, 11:00:17 PM
Quote from: Dusk on Feb 17, 2013, 08:55:19 PM
Man, that stuff should just be instant death. The only way QTEs should be involved, is if it's a co-op sequence. Would have been awesome if they made it like the movie. You have a Facehugger jump at you, and got seconds left, to have another player aid you, to pull it off, and throw it a safe distance away, so you can shoot it.

And regular Aliens? If it were up to me, I would have added a context sensitive action. By yourself, you don't have a chance. The Alien is on you and mauls you till your health depletes completely. Another player can get it off, but only by using his entire weight and drop kicking it off you. But the action causes you to end up on the ground as well. Non of that stupid pushing it off or pistol whipping it.

That's way too cool, dude. Can't be having that.

Then you could add things like a Facehugger-protective mask (Alien3 WY commandos) that a buddy could help with tearing off the hugger. Or that another Alien could remove from your face..
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Xenomorphine on Feb 17, 2013, 11:14:38 PM
If the masks Weyland-Yutani personnel are wearing in their cocoons are any indication, this generation of facehuggers have developed the ability to teleport through them with ease! :laugh:

Not that wearing anything over the face helped Kane much...
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Dusk on Feb 17, 2013, 11:24:39 PM
Yeah, they just melt through whatever is in the way.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: SM on Feb 17, 2013, 11:25:50 PM
'Cept cryotube glass...
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Anonymous684 on Feb 18, 2013, 12:28:44 AM
Okay my review has gone down to a 5/10 due to the escape mode being f**king ridiculous for the Xeno's! Also after watching some of the pre release footage (demo and such) this game did get f**ked over. I never watched to much of that stuff because I wanted to be surprised and everything to be new.... now seeing what everything should have been...... shame on your Gearbox!

Graphics still dont bother me one bit though, think there is some good art style in many parts!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: YutaniDitch on Feb 18, 2013, 01:33:39 AM
I wanted to say something that I forgot earlier... A gameplay demo is not a mere cosmetic marketing tool, since it not only contains a level that is present in the final game, but also is s GAMEPLAY demo, meaning that what you see is what you will get, even if still in the rough... I have seen Betas, demos, gameplay demos that were rough drafts of what came to pass, and this 2011 demo of ACM was clearly what was being done at the time!

And we have seen games that had the same kind of graphics, lighting, namely FEAR and others, that had the DOOM engine and therefore, were far less advanced than the Unreal 3 Engine... and got the job done... I played the demo of Doom3 and it was EXACTLY what the final product was, if my memory is not failing me...

So, what gives? My greatest fear is that Randy's deceit will have gained Gearbox enough money to consider this a success!
And all that at our backs! IN the backs of Alien fans who believed him, his words, his deceitful fanboyism, and his gameplay demo! Since Duke Nukem Forever and even before, since the MESSIAH game some te years back, I began to doubt longer-than-usual productions... And we got another turd! Before, the question could be due to the always emerging new engines which rendered the last one obsolete, but now, they could even do one with the Source Engine and be done with it... I mean, the facial expressions of Half-Life 2 are still good, just needing better shaders and skins! Hell, CSS has maps that could easily be modded to be Hadley's HOpe corridors and such... Maybe all Randy should do to try to appease the fans is to give THEM the tools for them to make a game of their own... Hell, they did that with an AVP-movie mod for AVP2, so why not this one...?

If only the CSS mod makers were Alien fans, and Gearbox enabled the FREE download of the editor software, it could be a blast! What do you guys think?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Xenomorphine on Feb 18, 2013, 01:38:40 AM
Because being the sole provider for DLC is profitable.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Smokeyrelic on Feb 18, 2013, 03:15:05 AM
I have 1000/1000 gamerscore for this game. I have beat this game to the pinnacle of being beat, and i have 1 thing to say...this game shouldnt be called aliens colonial marines... it should be called the chronicles of bishop. So many bishops. like everywhere. stop with the bishops already. We know you got lance for the voice but stop beating it over my head. When in doubt throw a little lance on it right? .... wrong...
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Salt The Fries on Feb 18, 2013, 06:48:32 AM
In the Operations, when Aliens attacked you I got close to Bishop who was just standing there by some computer terminal and I felt nothing will happen to me as long as I stick to Bishop :D Just like Hudson thought Bishop going to the antenna was a good idea :D
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 18, 2013, 07:19:34 AM
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Feb 18, 2013, 06:48:32 AM
In the Operations, when Aliens attacked you I got close to Bishop who was just standing there by some computer terminal and I felt nothing will happen to me as long as I stick to Bishop :D Just like Hudson thought Bishop going to the antenna was a good idea :D

LOLZ
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: shakermakerman on Feb 18, 2013, 11:32:09 AM
Seems that most people have jumped on the hate band wagon.  Well after reading the reviews and watching videos mocking on the net I had little hope for this game.
I then heard it tied in with the movies so i fancied to see how they put it across. And to my surprise I really enjoyed this game! After reading review after review, i was expecting something really bad.... And trust me its not a bad game infact its very good. It feels like you are in the movie Aliens, the sounds the music and the atmosphere, yes there is a few glitchs here and there it does not spoil the game what so ever. MP is a blast too and very addictive.  4/5
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Elicas on Feb 18, 2013, 11:40:43 AM
Quote from: shakermakerman on Feb 18, 2013, 11:32:09 AM
Seems that most people have jumped on the hate band wagon.  Well after reading the reviews and watching videos mocking on the net I had little hope for this game.
I then heard it tied in with the movies so i fancied to see how they put it across. And to my surprise I really enjoyed this game! After reading review after review, i was expecting something really bad.... And trust me its not a bad game infact its very good. It feels like you are in the movie Aliens, the sounds the music and the atmosphere, yes there is a few glitchs here and there it does not spoil the game what so ever. MP is a blast too and very addictive.  4/5

You're the one shining light in the community, thank you so much for enlightening us all, we should all go out and buy it immediately!

Or, more likely, you enjoyed it because you're an individual with different tastes to the majority of us who hated it. Why trust you that it's good, when we can see from the vast majority of critical and fan reviews that the game is a steaming pile of f**king shite?
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Porkus Maximus on Feb 18, 2013, 01:08:19 PM
QuoteSeems that most people have jumped on the hate band wagon

Yeah that's totally what happened. Everyone jumped on a hate bandwagon, it's got absolutely nothing to do with the fact that the majority of people just genuinely dislike it.

QuoteAnd trust me its not a bad game infact its very good.

You seem unable to tell the difference between "good" and "fun". Can this game be enjoyable? Absolutely yes, but objectively it is still a poorly developed game which deserves the mediocre reviews it is getting.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Hellspawn28 on Feb 18, 2013, 11:52:58 PM
Bennett The Sage said it's the best worst game I've played in years.

http://www.blisteredthumbs.net/2013/02/sage-reviews-acm/ (http://www.blisteredthumbs.net/2013/02/sage-reviews-acm/)
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ShadowPred on Feb 19, 2013, 12:02:03 AM
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Feb 18, 2013, 11:52:58 PM
Bennett The Sage said it's the best worst game I've played in years.

http://www.blisteredthumbs.net/2013/02/sage-reviews-acm/ (http://www.blisteredthumbs.net/2013/02/sage-reviews-acm/)


Amazing how the game keeps showing me how bad it is. The lip-syncing is f**king off the mark, holy shit. Just one other thing awful about a horribly shit game.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: YutaniDitch on Feb 19, 2013, 12:59:47 AM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Feb 18, 2013, 01:38:40 AM
Because being the sole provider for DLC is profitable.

It all depends on who will buy more of this crap!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ChrisPachi on Feb 19, 2013, 01:14:17 AM
After running through the derelict shooting humans only to find a ludicrous plot hole waiting for me, I was then required to blow up three gun batteries with some conveniently placed rocket launchers. I blew up two batteries and decided that it just wasn't worth it. Let Weyland win, I don't f**king care anymore.

1/10.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: YutaniDitch on Feb 19, 2013, 01:52:31 AM
Hi guys...

I don't know if I have said this before, but what we saw in the 2011 Gameplay Demo is actually something we have seen in many games before (dynamic lighting, fog, lighting FX, etc...) This work-in-progress demo had Xbox icons already, for cripes sake!... So, changes could be made, as they often are, tweaks and such, but I think that whenever a gameplay demo is made availabe, it is to get feedback about the direction they are taking, the sample of atmosphere and dialogue and if the fans are okay with it, and the feedback was good, so why downgrade it so much?! That is why I am almost positive that this game seems to be TG's baby and not Gearbox, with all the bugs, bad lip sync, bad AI, bad facial expressions, etc... It looks, as I said before, like the STARSHIP TROOPERS game (yep, I was dumb enough to play that game LOL)...

So, long story short, I think the demo as a marketing ploy was unethical as hell, but I think many of us believed it could actually be in the game, because there was no technical prowess in there we hadn't seen before...

And my earlier remarks that they could have downgraded it for PC, I correct it now, because games are done nowadays to be adaptable to PC specs, both in terms of graphics and in terms of horsepower of the rigs...

So, I can't find any excuse for Gearbox really... I mean, the mere idea that they used Sega's money to finance their own games, instead of what was contracted, it disgusts me immensely, Alien fan or not! Just for that, SEGA ought to sue their arses until they call for their mommies! Gearbox should not survive this!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 19, 2013, 03:41:37 AM
Quote from: YutaniDitch on Feb 19, 2013, 01:52:31 AM
Hi guys...

I don't know if I have said this before, but what we saw in the 2011 Gameplay Demo is actually something we have seen in many games before (dynamic lighting, fog, lighting FX, etc...) This work-in-progress demo had Xbox icons already, for cripes sake!... So, changes could be made, as they often are, tweaks and such, but I think that whenever a gameplay demo is made availabe, it is to get feedback about the direction they are taking, the sample of atmosphere and dialogue and if the fans are okay with it, and the feedback was good, so why downgrade it so much?! That is why I am almost positive that this game seems to be TG's baby and not Gearbox, with all the bugs, bad lip sync, bad AI, bad facial expressions, etc... It looks, as I said before, like the STARSHIP TROOPERS game (yep, I was dumb enough to play that game LOL)...

So, long story short, I think the demo as a marketing ploy was unethical as hell, but I think many of us believed it could actually be in the game, because there was no technical prowess in there we hadn't seen before...

And my earlier remarks that they could have downgraded it for PC, I correct it now, because games are done nowadays to be adaptable to PC specs, both in terms of graphics and in terms of horsepower of the rigs...

So, I can't find any excuse for Gearbox really... I mean, the mere idea that they used Sega's money to finance their own games, instead of what was contracted, it disgusts me immensely, Alien fan or not! Just for that, SEGA ought to sue their arses until they call for their mommies! Gearbox should not survive this!

If SEGA really gave them a large budget and this was the end result then SOMETHING illegal took place. It's that f**king simple.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: SM on Feb 19, 2013, 03:48:59 AM
Incompetence isn't necessarily illegal.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Nightlord on Feb 19, 2013, 03:50:52 AM
I think deliberate incompetence is.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Cal427eb on Feb 19, 2013, 03:58:26 AM
Here's my new review for the game.

Spoiler
http://www.myinstants.com/instant/its-shit/
Spoiler
It's Shit!/10
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Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Alien³ on Feb 19, 2013, 05:56:05 PM
I see why people hate it, and I don't consider it canon with the movies, but I just completed Aliens: Colonial Marines and it's awesome! It's story is like a great comic. I could see myself playing the campaign again very soon.

I'll check out the multiplayer later this week.

I'm sure with a downloadable patch they could fix and iron out the game, sort out glitches n' all. This game doesn't deserve the hate it's getting, if all is cleaned up I'd like a sequel.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Elicas on Feb 19, 2013, 06:06:22 PM
Quote from: Alien³ on Feb 19, 2013, 05:56:05 PM
I see why people hate it, and I don't consider it canon with the movies, but I just completed Aliens: Colonial Marines and it's awesome! It's story is like a great comic. I could see myself playing the campaign again very soon.

I'll check out the multiplayer later this week.

I'm sure with a downloadable patch they could fix and iron out the game, sort out glitches n' all. This game doesn't deserve the hate it's getting, if all is cleaned up I'd like a sequel.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.silverfishlongboarding.com%2Fforum%2Fattachment.php%3Fattachmentid%3D101064%26amp%3Bd%3D1355235011&hash=5804c03e53e30999bea276bfa1432627ea239f00)

Awesome, great and sequel are three words that should never be attributed to this game.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Cal427eb on Feb 19, 2013, 06:10:16 PM
Quote from: Elicas on Feb 19, 2013, 06:06:22 PM
Quote from: Alien³ on Feb 19, 2013, 05:56:05 PM
I see why people hate it, and I don't consider it canon with the movies, but I just completed Aliens: Colonial Marines and it's awesome! It's story is like a great comic. I could see myself playing the campaign again very soon.

I'll check out the multiplayer later this week.

I'm sure with a downloadable patch they could fix and iron out the game, sort out glitches n' all. This game doesn't deserve the hate it's getting, if all is cleaned up I'd like a sequel.

http://www.silverfishlongboarding.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=101064&d=1355235011

Awesome, great and sequel are three words that should never be attributed to this game.
I think he's trolling.... hopefully....
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Alien³ on Feb 19, 2013, 06:13:21 PM
I'm serious.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Elicas on Feb 19, 2013, 06:29:14 PM
Quote from: Alien³ on Feb 19, 2013, 06:13:21 PM
I'm serious.

You poor, poor man! You're games library must be atrocious. Steam, we need a does of high quality shooter, STAT!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Alien³ on Feb 19, 2013, 06:37:37 PM
Quote from: Elicas on Feb 19, 2013, 06:29:14 PM
Quote from: Alien³ on Feb 19, 2013, 06:13:21 PM
I'm serious.

You poor, poor man! You're games library must be atrocious. Steam, we need a does of high quality shooter, STAT!

I don't have a game library. Don't have Steam.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Smokeyrelic on Feb 19, 2013, 06:39:44 PM
They make you be these poorlly made Aliens online to complete challenges, that are nearly impossible because the Aliens climbing and pouncing are terrible. Its like this would be a good challenge.... except for the fact your server and frame rate were never looked into.

Also a huge fail is the fact you can't even speak to the people online you are playing with on xbox unless you invite every douche bag 1 by 1 into a party. You are supposed to stay and cooarlate with your team to survive but you cant because your trying to figure out who to invite while your getting your neck eaten by a choppy penis headed zombie.

No leaderboards, at all.

No kill death ratio.

No reason to give a flying #$%^!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Shaeffer11 on Feb 19, 2013, 10:52:45 PM
Is it worth it to buy it used for $20?? (I use he word "worth" lightly).
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Cal427eb on Feb 19, 2013, 10:55:40 PM
Quote from: Shaeffer11 on Feb 19, 2013, 10:52:45 PM
Is it worth it to buy it used for $20?? (I use he word "worth" lightly).
Yeah, but if it doesn't reach that value quick enough it won't be worth it because the multiplayer community will be dead. This wouldn't be a problem if the campaign was okay, but it isn't. It's shit.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Anonymous684 on Feb 19, 2013, 11:11:34 PM
The mods coming out for the game are helping a lot! <3 Ikarop and others!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: SM on Feb 19, 2013, 11:18:23 PM
QuoteI see why people hate it, and I don't consider it canon with the movies, but I just completed Aliens: Colonial Marines and it's awesome! It's story is like a great comic. I could see myself playing the campaign again very soon.


It's like a comic.  Not a great comic.  Specifically Earth War.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: YutaniDitch on Feb 19, 2013, 11:42:33 PM
Quote from: SM on Feb 19, 2013, 03:48:59 AM
Incompetence isn't necessarily illegal.

This was no incompetence, SM! Call it 'derelict of duty', if you want, but this was clearly intentional mismanagement of the resources given to them by SEGA!!!! This was a redirection of funds to subsidise their own games, not the game they were contracted for!

That money, if the numbers are correct, was also aiming at hiring consultants, etc, which clearly they never did...! With the  amount of money involved, they could have gotten even David S.Goyer to write the damn thing! Hell, even the youngest of Alien fans out there would write a better game than this! The dialogues were appaling!

So, to call it 'incompetence' is too mild a word for what they did! It was far from incompetence, they were QUITE COMPETENT at using it for their own games, and for stealing from SEGA, and clearly they have to answer for the obvious boatload of money that is missing from the game!

I don't think even 1 million would have given us a BETA-version like this one! Because make no mistake, given al the bugs, glitches and scripting errors, this game is far from being completed! If SEGA sits this one out, Gearbox will do this to another company, I am sure! They are just in it for the money! ACM was clearly dumped over Borderlands 2 and even Borderlands 1...

If SEGA and Gearbox signed the contract in 2006 and the first Borderlands got out in 2009, you have 3 years for Borderlands, plus 2 years or 3 for Borderlands 2, and probably one year for TimeGate to fall on their own sword!

Gearbox is guilty on all charges: 1) conspiracy to defraud SEGA; 2) misappropriation of funds to finance their own games... I mean, where did B1 capital come from? What was the last success from Gearbox to have gained them the investment capital they needed to finance B1? And did B1's gains be enough to make B2? I doubt it very much... SO, logic says that clearly, given the deplorable sate we got ACM and the state B2 came out, that clearly there is a very serious charge to be stuck on Gearbox... SEGA would wash some of the guilt by suiing, and with very good reasons, Gearbox for the crystal clear breaches of contract and certainly they ought to demosntrate to SEGA where all that investment money went! I am positively sure they can't! I will write SEGA and demand that they get their money back! I would ask for mine, but they are in better position than I am to demand, at least, that heads roll, especially that sanctamonious Randy Pitchford's head!  >:(
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: WarriorRidged on Feb 19, 2013, 11:50:07 PM
Got to say I enjoyed the game. I was disappointed with the lack of storyline, use of characters, terrible voice acting - but it was pretty fun, it had the Aliens atmosphere, I was able to overlook the dated graphics, and I think it's a game I will return to again and again - now about to try out Multiplayer for the first time.

If your're on PS3, add me: Castle81
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Alien³ on Feb 20, 2013, 12:03:23 AM
Quote from: SM on Feb 19, 2013, 11:18:23 PM
QuoteI see why people hate it, and I don't consider it canon with the movies, but I just completed Aliens: Colonial Marines and it's awesome! It's story is like a great comic. I could see myself playing the campaign again very soon.


It's like a comic.  Not a great comic.  Specifically Earth War.

Yeah, I just thought it was a bit of fun. I guess the fact I'm not an avid gamer or the fact I didn't pay any attention to the game's build up helped my lack of disappointment. A:CM is like a theme park ride, if you get my meaning.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Elicas on Feb 20, 2013, 12:28:15 AM
Quote from: YutaniDitch on Feb 19, 2013, 11:42:33 PM
Quote from: SM on Feb 19, 2013, 03:48:59 AM
Incompetence isn't necessarily illegal.

This was no incompetence, SM! Call it 'derelict of duty', if you want, but this was clearly intentional mismanagement of the resources given to them by SEGA!!!! This was a redirection of funds to subsidise their own games, not the game they were contracted for!

That money, if the numbers are correct, was also aiming at hiring consultants, etc, which clearly they never did...! With the  amount of money involved, they could have gotten even David S.Goyer to write the damn thing! Hell, even the youngest of Alien fans out there would write a better game than this! The dialogues were appaling!

So, to call it 'incompetence' is too mild a word for what they did! It was far from incompetence, they were QUITE COMPETENT at using it for their own games, and for stealing from SEGA, and clearly they have to answer for the obvious boatload of money that is missing from the game!

I don't think even 1 million would have given us a BETA-version like this one! Because make no mistake, given al the bugs, glitches and scripting errors, this game is far from being completed! If SEGA sits this one out, Gearbox will do this to another company, I am sure! They are just in it for the money! ACM was clearly dumped over Borderlands 2 and even Borderlands 1...

If SEGA and Gearbox signed the contract in 2006 and the first Borderlands got out in 2009, you have 3 years for Borderlands, plus 2 years or 3 for Borderlands 2, and probably one year for TimeGate to fall on their own sword!

Gearbox is guilty on all charges: 1) conspiracy to defraud SEGA; 2) misappropriation of funds to finance their own games... I mean, where did B1 capital come from? What was the last success from Gearbox to have gained them the investment capital they needed to finance B1? And did B1's gains be enough to make B2? I doubt it very much... SO, logic says that clearly, given the deplorable sate we got ACM and the state B2 came out, that clearly there is a very serious charge to be stuck on Gearbox... SEGA would wash some of the guilt by suiing, and with very good reasons, Gearbox for the crystal clear breaches of contract and certainly they ought to demosntrate to SEGA where all that investment money went! I am positively sure they can't! I will write SEGA and demand that they get their money back! I would ask for mine, but they are in better position than I am to demand, at least, that heads roll, especially that sanctamonious Randy Pitchford's head!  >:(

Nothing is "clear" at all, all we have is rumour and speculation.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: SM on Feb 20, 2013, 12:44:08 AM
Quite.

Unless YutaniDitch has some detailed inside info...

I don't think anyone set out to make a shit game, just like no one sets out to make a shit movie.

Doesn't stop them from happening though.  Frequently.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ChrisPachi on Feb 20, 2013, 01:42:27 AM
Quote from: YutaniDitch on Feb 19, 2013, 11:42:33 PMmisappropriation of funds to finance their own games... I mean, where did B1 capital come from?

Pitchford has argued that the take from B1 actually put money into A:CM. It's all just shit-flinging at the moment and way too early to be shouting 'crime!' (though I agree that the false advertising is running a bit close to the edge).
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Anonymous684 on Feb 20, 2013, 03:51:27 AM
I'm bring my rating back up to a 6.5 due to the mods that have been coming out!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: YutaniDitch on Feb 20, 2013, 04:37:17 AM
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Feb 20, 2013, 01:42:27 AM
Quote from: YutaniDitch on Feb 19, 2013, 11:42:33 PMmisappropriation of funds to finance their own games... I mean, where did B1 capital come from?

Pitchford has argued that the take from B1 actually put money into A:CM. It's all just shit-flinging at the moment and way too early to be shouting 'crime!' (though I agree that the false advertising is running a bit close to the edge).

Yes, from  the same guy who always tells the truth! Also, I was focusing more on the first Borderlands... Sega contract in 2006, Borderlands is out in 2009... The question remains how much money did 2K Games give Gearbox to make both games! But the 2.000 dollar question is WHERE DID SEGA'S MONEY GO TO, because it certainly isn't in ACM! So either they put it in their bank accounts or invested it.... The fact remains that there is no way this piece of gaming crap cost 20, 30, 40 mil!

Regarding the person who stated this, he was proven to have been an employee... a tester... Of course, we will only get confirmation of this if SEGA sues Gearbox and these facts are brought up in Court... but it all makes sense... I am not saying they wanted it to be bad, but they outsourced it to a cheap company with no experience whatsoever for what, for it to be top of the line, an AAA title?! Come on...!

Truth and facts are that we might never know the truth... Not that it matters, actually... Gearbox track record is full of crap, Randy's not going to be credible anymore, and this debacle surely will put publishers wondering if hiring them and paying them before the product is shown, is a good idea! THQ died because, in part, because they demanded results with a killer schedule and the quality of their games repeatedly took a beating because of it! Fortunately, SEGA is not THQ, nor is Activision or EA, but THQ's demise is a reminder that unless publishers demand their software houses or the software houses they hire, that they respect their contract and also are smart enough not to set a date out in public too early... Then, this might be the demise of not just publishers like THQ, but also software houses/devs like Gearbox...

Long story short, Gearbox's rep took a nose dive and unless 2K Games maintains trust in them, I don't see what publisher will give these incompetent, lazy, greedy douches any games for them to do! I sure wouldn't! Many better companies out there! Even for this ACM, before all this, I wouldn't give it to Gearbox, given her track record... Their stories have never been compelling ones, their games have gameplay issues all the time... I remember how troubling the gameplay was in BiA...

So, theres that... Sorry about the rant, I am really troubled by the way things were handled by everyone in the creative process... This is amateur hour, something I would expect CITY Software to do... Having said that, I am awaiting Ghost Warrior 2 to see  how it goes...

Cheers!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Crazy Rich on Feb 20, 2013, 04:56:45 AM
One of the things I really tried to just basically not focus much on for the sake of just having fun (which was successful) was the claims of environmental authenticity. I'm no expert but while a few things feel authentic there were more moments when the surroundings just felt "off" rather than authentic to the movies. But again I didn't want to focus on it in the first place because I grew skeptical of such claims, even though I don't have the knowledge or resources to see all the little details. I could see the big ones, like the size of the Sulaco hanger, or the lack of a vent in the area where the marines, Newt and Ripley make a run for it after the big last stand. One of my higher priorities was to just have fun, which I achieved, and I'm still achieving now. Again because I grew skeptical about other aspects.

Thee biggest disappointment, I recognized the garage from the demo so I went straight for the sentry gun and placed it in the tunnel. In the demo all hell broke loose in a beautiful way, in this final product... "Ah, now eventually you do plan to have xenomorphs in this, in this underground tunnel, right? Hello?

Hello? Yes?"
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 20, 2013, 06:50:37 AM
Quote from: SM on Feb 20, 2013, 12:44:08 AM
Quite.

Unless YutaniDitch has some detailed inside info...

I don't think anyone set out to make a shit game, just like no one sets out to make a shit movie.

Doesn't stop them from happening though.  Frequently.

I disagree. The amount of work put into ACM clearly shows poor effort. Just my opinion.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Salt The Fries on Feb 20, 2013, 06:56:27 AM
Quote from: Uncanny Psycho on Feb 20, 2013, 03:51:27 AM
I'm bring my rating back up to a 6.5 due to the mods that have been coming out!
It's not the game you're rating back up, you silly. It's not Gearbox's effort that made you think that.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 20, 2013, 07:01:18 AM
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Feb 20, 2013, 06:56:27 AM
Quote from: Uncanny Psycho on Feb 20, 2013, 03:51:27 AM
I'm bring my rating back up to a 6.5 due to the mods that have been coming out!
It's not the game you're rating back up, you silly. It's not Gearbox's effort that made you think that.

Right on, Vaz.

GBX can maybe up the feeling of this game with patches and DLC. Will they do it right is the question.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Elicas on Feb 20, 2013, 01:12:59 PM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 20, 2013, 06:50:37 AM
Quote from: SM on Feb 20, 2013, 12:44:08 AM
Quite.

Unless YutaniDitch has some detailed inside info...

I don't think anyone set out to make a shit game, just like no one sets out to make a shit movie.

Doesn't stop them from happening though.  Frequently.

I disagree. The amount of work put into ACM clearly shows poor effort. Just my opinion.

No, it shows poor execution. I'm sure the grunt level workers, the equivalent of me and you, worked their nuts off on this game. But then, grunt level workers don't make the design decisions or the financial/project management decisions. Managers do. The same stupid managers who in the real world decide to have 5 carpenters in 5 1st fixes putting them all out of work in a week, instead of letting one guy have a run of work for 5 weeks. This game reeks of bad management leading to poor execution and a wonky product.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Anonymous684 on Feb 21, 2013, 06:10:04 PM
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Feb 20, 2013, 06:56:27 AM
Quote from: Uncanny Psycho on Feb 20, 2013, 03:51:27 AM
I'm bring my rating back up to a 6.5 due to the mods that have been coming out!
It's not the game you're rating back up, you silly. It's not Gearbox's effort that made you think that.

oh gbx has nothing to do with the rating. thanks to having a awesome community with people like ikarop to help improve the game brings the rating up for my overall enjoyment!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ScardyFox on Feb 21, 2013, 06:22:32 PM
I'm still enjoying it, not sure how much longer but I am.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Xenomorphine on Feb 21, 2013, 06:47:53 PM
Quote from: Uncanny Psycho on Feb 21, 2013, 06:10:04 PM
oh gbx has nothing to do with the rating. thanks to having a awesome community with people like ikarop to help improve the game brings the rating up for my overall enjoyment!

Their point is that you're not rating the modifications up. You're rating up the basic product, which has nothing to do with them. :)
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: midget on Feb 21, 2013, 09:49:09 PM
I want the game they showed in the demo footage. I want THAT game.

With that said, I am still enjoying this Aliens game.  It is a blast to play with a friend.

I would give it a healthy 5.9/10 -- but I am a fan, so I am biased.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Mihail on Feb 22, 2013, 08:33:42 AM
Spill.com review http://my.spill.com/profiles/blogs/aliens-colonial-marines-audio-review (http://my.spill.com/profiles/blogs/aliens-colonial-marines-audio-review)
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ChrisPachi on Feb 22, 2013, 12:01:33 PM
"Nothing says Aliens like a blinged-out gold shotgun". :laugh:

Cheers Mihai.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: RagingDragon on Feb 22, 2013, 07:39:36 PM
"I think this is the rumored Troll 2 of video games: it's so bad it's actually kind of fun to play."

:laugh: Review was great, though they did ding the holding the motion tracker instead of your weapon. I thought that was good in concept, but terrible in execution as you never really needed it in the campaign with O'Neal shouting and shooting everywhere with his Smartgun full of blanks while the Aliens continue to come at you from the front...

From the front...

And here they come, from the front...

Watch out, they're in front of us.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ChrisPachi on Feb 23, 2013, 01:59:12 AM
:laugh:

Where are they!?

Right there.

Oh right, cool.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: RagingDragon on Feb 23, 2013, 02:26:56 AM
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Feb 23, 2013, 01:59:12 AM
:laugh:

Where are they!?

Right there.

Oh right, cool.

There they are!!

*fires into the wall* *continues firing into the wall!!!*
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: stemot on Feb 23, 2013, 06:38:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uWrXA3nwU4#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uWrXA3nwU4#ws)

:D
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Elicas on Feb 23, 2013, 08:00:22 PM
Quote from: stemot on Feb 23, 2013, 06:38:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uWrXA3nwU4#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uWrXA3nwU4#ws)

:D

Amazing!
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: ShadowPred on Feb 23, 2013, 08:07:22 PM
Quote from: stemot on Feb 23, 2013, 06:38:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uWrXA3nwU4#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uWrXA3nwU4#ws)

:D


f**k, this game is so f**king shit.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Crazy Rich on Feb 23, 2013, 09:07:53 PM
Quote from: stemot on Feb 23, 2013, 06:38:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uWrXA3nwU4#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uWrXA3nwU4#ws)

:D

Glorious.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Nightlord on Feb 24, 2013, 02:07:22 AM
Quote from: stemot on Feb 23, 2013, 06:38:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uWrXA3nwU4#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uWrXA3nwU4#ws)

:D
So good.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: RagingDragon on Feb 24, 2013, 03:22:17 AM
Quote from: stemot on Feb 23, 2013, 06:38:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uWrXA3nwU4#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uWrXA3nwU4#ws)

:D
AHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Xenomorphine on Feb 24, 2013, 03:33:54 AM
Shit-walk duty... :laugh:
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Gren_86 on Feb 24, 2013, 09:18:54 PM
Quote from: Mihai on Feb 22, 2013, 08:33:42 AM
Spill.com review http://my.spill.com/profiles/blogs/aliens-colonial-marines-audio-review (http://my.spill.com/profiles/blogs/aliens-colonial-marines-audio-review)
Spill crew: ''ACM is a chick with two dicks and no makeup on.'' :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
This pretty much sum's it up.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Hellspawn28 on Feb 25, 2013, 12:25:51 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykuZ4eW314g#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykuZ4eW314g#ws)
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: Cal427eb on Feb 25, 2013, 12:28:06 AM
That summed it up nicely.
Title: Re: Fan Reviews
Post by: PredalienXenomorph on Feb 25, 2013, 09:35:11 PM
6/10

Honestly I had no real intrest in this game's campaign even before I pre-ordered it. Shooting a bunch of Aliens is not something new and even paticularly enjoyable in most Alien games because of the poor Alien AI and powerfull weaponry. I was holding onto the slight hope that the Aliens would get your heart pumping in the campaign but that quickly faded. Its like hunting birds with a shotgun, and the the other Marines in the campaign don't help things. I might be a little harsh on the campaign considering I have not even bothered to try and finish it after I started having some awkward shootouts with the corporate Marines but the reviews I have read don't make me feel like I am missing much. That leaves the multiplayer which for me is hit and miss. I will jump at the chance to play as an Alien at almost every opportunity and this was no different. However I quickly learned that starting even as early week after the game came out was a mistake. The Marines shot me to pieces repeatedly as I struggled to adapt to the controls and enviorments, usually together. I walked over mines, into rocket fire, and snipers at a rate that was admitidl