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Title: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: Darkness on Jul 25, 2004, 10:47:39 PM

Damn. This is the news I was expecting. My source who wishes to be credited as ‘AvPbuff’ works for Fox, has returned my email just now and he confirms that it is PG13. The Official AvP Website will be updated VERY SOON according to the source. I’m limited to what I can post here but here are his thoughts on the matter:

“I know lots of fans are going to be disappointed by this but truthfully, knowing what I know about movies, studios, and the entire process of making a movie come to life and into the theatres, I can tell you that it's never as clear cut as "˜the director decided it should be PG13'. The studio funds the movie and really the best way to get most people into the theatre is to get it a PG13 as opposed to R rating. Of course, most fans won't know this and will automatically blame Paul Anderson and scream up and down it needs to be R rating.”

And before you say, this isn’t true etc… the person quoted above is a very reliable friend of mine. As an extra, we should also be getting Paul Anderson’s thoughts on this soon.

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Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: batman on Jul 26, 2004, 10:53:21 AM
Not good news at all but if it is true then hopefully there will be a director's cut dvd.  On another note, over at countingdown.com AVP forums, someone claiming to be a cinema projectionist in the US says they have just recieved their scheduling sheets for august and it has alien vs. predator at a running time of 134 minutes, which is excellent. He says the sheets are 90% accurate and are usually only 2 or 3 minutes out.  Course this cud all be bollocks tho.
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: JustAnotherAlien on Jul 26, 2004, 10:58:00 AM
The running time thing is good. I just cant imagine a film like this being PG-13. The violence between the Aliens and Predators will hopefully not be slimmed down.  This is all a ploy by fox to get more money. All the fans see the "light" version of this film. Then the dvd comes out and they all buy that. 1 year later they release the unrated version and everybody buys that. Fox gets the most money out of this, and hopefully it will lead to a potential sequal.
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: >>AGENT GLENN<< on Jul 26, 2004, 11:01:02 AM
Darkness can you ask your friend if he can tell about the lenght of the movie? because I think it's quite important.. The lenght of this movie! could you?
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: uhhhhh on Jul 26, 2004, 11:01:53 AM
word  i cant wait to hear PA's thoughts on it, and i also want an official running time, 134 would be awesome, hopefully PA can fill is in on that, too.
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: ElTiburon on Jul 26, 2004, 11:04:43 AM
well this is disapointing news to say the least...i wanted it to be rated r but what can i do? at least the running time is 2+ hours...i'm just a pathetic fanboy and yes i will see the movie multiple times and buy both dvds..fox is stealing all my money...life sucks..
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: Corpral Hicks on Jul 26, 2004, 11:04:57 AM
the creature gore doesnt count too badly against the rating and this film is about the creatures not us, so it shudnt be!
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: shakermakerman on Jul 26, 2004, 11:07:36 AM
you can delete this message if you want but if this is true the producers of fox are a butch of corperate WANKERS! and if it is pg 13 f**k it im gunna get a pirate copy so f**k the lot of them!! sorry for the bad language and bad spalling but im realy pissed off roll on 2 week at the car boot thats what i say they not havin any of my money i can tell you that!! iv been lookin forword to this movie for a long time...im just hoping you r wrong darkness i really am
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: mrlee on Jul 26, 2004, 11:09:51 AM
damn it. i just feel... cheated.... mislead. just hope effects are good now, since there wont be much gore. i still stand by the 2 franchises the same though. he just made them into something they are not.
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: SENTINEL on Jul 26, 2004, 11:10:22 AM
instead of voting about how many people want PG-13 or R,lets vote how many people want PAUL ANDERSON fired! man this just keeps on getting better and better,here ahhahahahah im thinking that FOX wanted it PG-13 hHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! it WAS PAUL ANDERSON that wanted it PG-13!, man ooooooooo man,MR PAUL anderson you didnt it again YOU MOTHER F__KER,i just want to thank you PAUL for making ever bad thought and feeling come true.
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: SHURIKEN on Jul 26, 2004, 11:10:36 AM
hey at least we get to see the site soon too see why the rated the movie pg 13 hopefully it says frequent intense scenes of violence
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: batman on Jul 26, 2004, 11:13:23 AM
U also have to remember that the humans are relegated to third party in this, i think it will be aiken to the first Predator and they will all be dead by just over the halfway point of the movie. The main event of the battles between the creatures there will be gore aplenty, but florecent green blood and yellow acid ain't that scary to see so a pg-13 may not mean no gore. Someone said earlier bout evil dead 2 and the green blood keeping the rating down, we may see a similar thing here. Any human gore however...when an alien strikes i think it will be similar to cameron's approach of showing the inner jaws about to strike then cutting away, any graphic pred attacks on the humans will prob be shown in pred vision, as will the chestbursting.
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: Corpral Hicks on Jul 26, 2004, 11:14:04 AM
did u even read wat the report said? it wasnt pauls fault and many people will just blame he anyway, jesus people!
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: The_Jerk on Jul 26, 2004, 11:15:24 AM
Great so now I'll get to sit with a bunch of 10 yr olds screaming and crying when Lex is making out with Scar    ???   Good to see Paul Anderson has no impact on any of his movies anymore...hope this movie breaks his career as a "Promising" Director..IM sure Ridley Scott/James Cameron are laughing their asses off right about now.    ;D  
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: shakermakerman on Jul 26, 2004, 11:21:38 AM
thats why james cameron had his own producers, i mean it was them fox producers that made alien 3 so crap ,, but im tellin you this if it pg 13 im gettting a pirate copy i was gunna wait till october .. but this is unjust so im beeing unjust back f*ck the lot of them
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: J on Jul 26, 2004, 11:23:51 AM
Heck, as long as the film holds well and gives the fans what is expected from this movie then that in the end is all that matters, that comes before any rating of any movie.    8)  
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: shakermakerman on Jul 26, 2004, 11:25:38 AM
but the fans expected R!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: AngryHobo on Jul 26, 2004, 11:28:13 AM
Yes, as I said earlier while grilling Cookies, the violence level depicted in the movie can still be pretty high because of the unrealistic nature of these creatures. While their may be cuts in human related violence, the majority of the blood, apart from the attack on the surface prior to the Pred's arrival in the temple and Max's death in the razor-net, human gore is much less present than that of Pred and Alien. And as for the people complaining about Anderson allowing the movie to be PG-13, Fox has control over the distribution of the movie as do the producers, the director is typically out-matched regarding decisions, as he has no personal money in the budget of the film. It isn't Andersons fault, so shut the hell up...blame Fox or the producers...not Anderson, he may have just lost the fight for the theatrical release, but will more than likely have a bloodier, directors cut. Just slap the 12 year olds to make them shut up...   ;D  
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: tribalcore on Jul 26, 2004, 11:28:50 AM
does anyone have the email to fox or someone from fox seriously im not kidding. doesnt have to be an email to a big corprate guy it can just be to fox someone please gimme an email so i can tell them how they just ruined 2 franchises
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: El Demonio Cazador on Jul 26, 2004, 11:30:22 AM
OK Guys....this is it.... I know some people P.A. isn't to blame, but I think he is... the minute he signed the contract he KNEW what FOX wanted... it's not like suddleny a week ago FOX decided to go PG 13... they intended this since the beggining,.... if this gets a Director's Cut it wont be an R-rated gory version... probalby it'll have a couple of extra scenes and that's it... If you read the novel, you don't have to be a Rocket Scientist to realiza this won't be an R rated movie as IT SHOULD.... This is an Outrage.... FOX f***ed it up and P.A. along with them.... there's always a Puppeteer and a Puppet....  I'm sorry but it's true...P.A. blew his ONLY chance to revindicate himself....
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: Erez on Jul 26, 2004, 11:30:51 AM
F**K U FOX. They know that all the Alien/Predator fans will go to see the movie anyway and now some little kids will too. Now it's confirmed, this movie was made for one reason. MONEY.
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: Somebody on Jul 26, 2004, 11:32:00 AM
If people at Fox are reading, you people who rated this movie a PG-13 are a bunch of **sholes, and f*ckers, and you just ruined the entire movie. I hope you all who made it a PG-13 burn in hell...I really do... bunch of *beep* *beep*
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: jevjnd2000 on Jul 26, 2004, 11:36:09 AM
I guess that we'll find out how much ratings have changed over time, as I fully expect this movie to keep the unpleasantness of both franchises intact.  Can't wait, I don't know about all of you, but I think that he did a fine job, and that we'll see that in August.  Cheers to a good movie.
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: JustAnotherAlien on Jul 26, 2004, 11:39:27 AM
This movie was never meant for the fans. What do you think fox made it for? The fans? The fun? Hell no. It was always about money. PA claimed he made it for the fans, and he possibly did. But FOX turned around and said "Sorry, but we need more money to fill our pillowcases! PG-13 IT IS!" It was always for the money, and it always will be. Hopefully it will still be a good film, and if it is, well... Who knows what will happen after that.
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: SCAR on Jul 26, 2004, 11:40:04 AM
Cheers man ,Cheers to PAUL and HOPEFULLY a VERY good MOVIE!

Well if the movie is good maybe there will be a director's cut HOPE FULLY!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: AngryHobo on Jul 26, 2004, 11:42:05 AM
At least there are some optimistic fans left on this site. Despite the lack of "gore" this movie still should rock.   ;D  
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: CelticPredator on Jul 26, 2004, 11:43:24 AM
btw 12 year olds r not like little kids, im know i was one a year ago, anyway im gonna talk before the preveiws start and ask people to vote, also if u bing babys to see this film then ur a dumbass mofo. no little kids r gonna see the scarist aliens fight. i was in the theaters to see robot, and all the kids were scared by that trailer...so this means only hard core fans r gonna see this. btw is not pauls fault its foxes.
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: JustAnotherAlien on Jul 26, 2004, 11:45:01 AM
Tonight, "Can FOX executives and producers think?" A new study confirms that... No, they can not.
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: tribalcore on Jul 26, 2004, 11:45:38 AM
thanx shakermaker im writing this email for all of us should i post it here before i send it just incase i forgot anything?
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: AngryHobo on Jul 26, 2004, 11:46:48 AM
Sure the movie was made for money, so if you want to let Fox now that they suck...orchestrate a massive boycott or something. Despite the animosity towards the rating and PA, the chance to see an Alien and Pred duke it out on the big screen is to enticing. So give Fox your money and hope for a sequel with a little more fan fare, or don't give your 7 bucks to Fox and then when the sequel comes out you can brag that you "stuck it to the man" or some shit. There's not much one person can do anyway.
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: SCAR on Jul 26, 2004, 11:47:55 AM
Look kids are just not use't to the GORE and horror of AVP,i'm 14 and i love the ALIENS and PREDATORS ,there bad a$$ and fu*k't up this is some hardcore sh*t u feel me!!!!
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: AngryHobo on Jul 26, 2004, 11:49:11 AM
The only 12 years olds I included in my statements are the ones who sit behind you, kick your f**king seat and then make little comments at the screen and about how the movie is so much different than the source material. But than again that is any fanboy in between 12 and 40.....hmmm    ;)  
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: El Demonio Cazador on Jul 26, 2004, 11:52:05 AM
Oh people....FOX has always been a CORPORATE MONSTER...what's the surprise? Their executives and producers are there to MAKE MONEY...that's their job!!! They don't care about the Fans.... the problem is that P.A. Misled us... he made a "pact with the Devil".... thinking this would boost his career... I think P.A. couldn't careless about the fans... he saw the Ship and hopped for a ride.... and he gets money out of it.... He could've said NO and walk away... and FOX would've gotten another director... but he wanted to be in so bad that he was BLINDED by it... and "overlooked" the "Famliy Movie" fact... I'm very upset....
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: SCAR on Jul 26, 2004, 11:53:13 AM
What are you saying ANGRYHOBO that because i'm 14 i'm not a fan???
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: AngryHobo on Jul 26, 2004, 11:56:08 AM
El Demonio Cazador   Calm down man, so you think PA missled the fans, oh well, at least there is an AvP movie. So why dont you calm down and take shit in stride...dont want you to have a heart attack. Sure Fox is greedy, but I really think that PA didn't intend to "redeem his career". Just my opinion tho....lol
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: J on Jul 26, 2004, 11:56:36 AM
Its weird though, times have changed so much and what THEY would have regarded a film like this to being ' R ' the change because its been done so many times.  I just reckon its more about the money, this IS after all the merger between these two monster for the first time and so they don't want to take any chances if it goes wrong ( not that it would). PG - 13 = more money than say R = so so money  its more bussiness sense for them.   :)  
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: Somebody on Jul 26, 2004, 11:58:10 AM
I wonder what would have happened if Sony or Paramount Pictures did AvP??? LOL
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: Erez on Jul 26, 2004, 11:58:48 AM
What I wish to happen now is that even though it's PG13 kids won't see the movie (because it's scary eww) and now a bunch of rebelling fans won't too. FOX U LOST. Haha, I guess it could teach Fox a lesson. *crossing fingers*  Fox are blinded by money. They hired an alien and predator fan to direct this movie, put ALIEN AND PREDATOR in the title and that's all it takes. We were deceived. I just hope this movie is gonna be OK...
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: AngryHobo on Jul 26, 2004, 11:59:20 AM
What Scar?   All I meant to say was that I have no problem with a younger crowd at all....as long as they contain their comments to themselves. I think that if the movie were R instead younger viewers would show up anyway...parents don't care about violence as much as Sex. I in no way meant to say you weren't a fan. I was just casually poking fun at the "simpsons comic book guy" fans aroung the world....not younger teen viewers. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: El Demonio Cazador on Jul 26, 2004, 12:02:38 PM
Somebody: WTF? They CANT the rights ARE owned by FOX.... inform yourself a little....  AngtyHobo: Didn't mean to saound THAT angry...hehehe I'm still watching the movie, probably more than twice but I hate the fact thet I'm gonna wath a LO CARB ALIEN AND PREDATOR.... I do like some of PA's previous movies but he isn't very respected in the Hollywood  industry, and I think this was his ONLY chance... and he Blew if because of overexcitment for being involved and accepted FOX's rules blindly... thats it....
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: Somebody on Jul 26, 2004, 12:04:33 PM
El Demonio Cazador u r right...I forgot about that.. sorry!     ;D     ;D  
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: SCAR on Jul 26, 2004, 12:04:36 PM
No man, i'm the one who shud say sorry i over reacted!my bad man,my bad!!! kk ANGRYHOBO?
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: Erez on Jul 26, 2004, 12:08:39 PM
Somebody, Fox doesn't deserve the right over Alien/Predator and they've kept showing this for the last 13 years. Their job is to ruin great titles. I wonder what great sequels would have been released if Ridley Scott/Stan Winston didn't come to Fox at first place.  Fox. DIE.
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: AngryHobo on Jul 26, 2004, 12:10:32 PM
No prob SCAR, and don't worry about sounding to angry, El Demonio Cazador, I fully understand you opinions on the matter. Just didn't want you to die on us...lol     ;D  
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: Fulgore on Jul 26, 2004, 12:15:51 PM
Well, what I've read in the novel does not come close to an PG-13 rating, and there is a loop hole in the ending.
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: AngryHobo on Jul 26, 2004, 12:17:51 PM
Yeah the book is pretty violent, but mainly regarding to Alien and Predator dismemberment. There are a few bloody human deaths. The ending itself is relatively well known now. Darkness already reported on it weeks ago.
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: Paul Jacobs on Jul 26, 2004, 12:22:44 PM
Making moives is an "Industry" and that means cash, and Fox are no different from any other corporation in that they want to make as much cash as possible.  But fans hold the power in that they are the ones who hand over their cash to the corporations, so there really is little point bitching over the rating if we are all going to go see the movie regardless, just remember that when you hand over your hard earned notes to Fox that they do not know if you went to see the movie because you wanted to or if you just wanted to see how badly it was affected by a kiddie rating and to be honest do you think they will spare a thought regarding that as they count up all their cash.
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: SCAR on Jul 26, 2004, 12:22:55 PM
What's the loop tell me now plz but mark spoiller,kk?
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: Jonesy on Jul 26, 2004, 12:23:13 PM
Sorry, but I don't buy it. I think it was planned to PG-13 from the very start, and this is the studio covering for the director. There sort of playing bad cop to Anderson being good cop. Cuz the fans would rather blame the studio than the director. Its more acceptable that way. But imo they both knew, that the movie was written to be PG-13, and that it was shot to be PG-13 as well. I doubt the 'director's cut' would be much different.
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: AdamJZ on Jul 26, 2004, 12:25:58 PM
THERE IS NO PROOF!!!!!!! there is no way to tell if ht movie is PG-13 or R, lets face it, there are plenty of clues pointing to either rating. it was just like this before terminator 3 came out.  I dont care how trustworthy Darkness's friend is. THE ONLY WAY TO KNOW FOR SURE IS WHENIT IS POSTED ON EITHER MPAA.COM or AVP-MOVIE.COM!!!!!!  THAT IS THE ONLY WAY TO KNOW!!!
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: El Demonio Cazador on Jul 26, 2004, 12:27:19 PM
Yep Jonesy.. I agree with that... in fact I mentioned somthing similar previously:  
QuoteI know some people say P.A. isn't to blame, but I think he is...  the minute he signed the contract he KNEW what FOX wanted...  it's not like suddleny a week ago FOX decided to go PG 13...  they intended this since the beggining,....  if this gets a Director's Cut it wont be an R-rated gory version...  probalby it'll have a couple of extra scenes and that's it...  If you read the novel, you don't have to be a Rocket Scientist  to realiza this won't be an R rated movie as IT SHOULD....
Saludos
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: Somebody on Jul 26, 2004, 12:42:41 PM
Then why did the trustry MSN says that it's an R? http://entertainment.msn.com/movies/movie.aspx?m=546921
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: Dave on Jul 26, 2004, 12:44:23 PM
MALCOLM IN THE MIDDLE had the ad tonite. 7:40 P.M.   PG-13 was the rating. anyone else see it?
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: RyanPoli on Jul 26, 2004, 12:46:13 PM
Adam JZ how many times have you seen a movie preview on tv that stated a rating WRONG.  exactly...
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: El Demonio Cazador on Jul 26, 2004, 12:52:24 PM
EVERYONE!!!! I JUST SAW THE FREAKIN' PREVIEW ON FOX!!! IS SAYS PG13!!! Adam, and to other non-believers... you don't have to believe us... but you'll see.... just as I did about 2 minutes ago...
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: Oh on Jul 26, 2004, 12:52:54 PM
I wonder what Paul Anderson himself has to say about this.  By the way Darkness any update on the questions we all submitted for Paul Anderson, have you decided on a list of ones to ask .. just want an update?
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: El Demonio Cazador on Jul 26, 2004, 12:53:42 PM
Sombody... MSN is not Trusty please.... a lot of peaople have already seen the ad at FOX!! includin me!! Get over it!
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: Somebody on Jul 26, 2004, 12:54:21 PM
It's Malcom in the Middle on FOX right now.....
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: Somebody on Jul 26, 2004, 12:56:14 PM
Sorry....I'm just sad about all these news.....
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: ExarKunM2 on Jul 26, 2004, 12:59:00 PM
Please do not pay money to see this movie. If you must watch it, download it. Prove to Fox that a PG-13 doesn't always equal more money.
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Post by: Somebody on Jul 26, 2004, 01:02:57 PM
HOLLY SH*T. I JUST SAW THE COMMERCIAL!  IT IS PG-13. IT IS!       >:D     >:D     >:D     >:D     >:D     >:D     >:D  
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: Dave on Jul 26, 2004, 01:04:34 PM
Yup, simpsons had the ad at about 8:01 pm. PG 13    :-\  
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: El Demonio Cazador on Jul 26, 2004, 01:07:57 PM
I saw it too.... I would say it's pretty official now....
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Post by: Slovarik on Jul 26, 2004, 01:10:37 PM
ExarKunM2 - yeah!!!  lets do it. :) i am with you
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Post by: J on Jul 26, 2004, 01:11:31 PM
COME ON FOLKS, DON'T GET MAD!   Lets just take into acount that this movie is infact different from anything that we've expect, however the rating this is just simple marketing straigey by FOX.  Don't let the ratings fool your opinions of this movie, ratings don't make a movie.
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: tribalcore on Jul 26, 2004, 01:13:53 PM
yeah they do
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Post by: Cookies on Jul 26, 2004, 01:15:06 PM
This is great!   what a piece of shit.   Now lets see if that 1h27 min is true too now! ahahaha
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: SFA on Jul 26, 2004, 01:24:29 PM
I was going to wait till October to see this. But not any more. I'm going to DOWNLOAD it and share it / pimp it to as many people or places as I can. FOX don't deserve ANY of my money. NONE. This has me utterly seething with anger. Its like an April Fools' joke gone wrong. How can you do such a thing to two of the biggest monster icons in history?   Having said all this, look what's happened to the other cool characters/monsters than often get lumped in the same category...  Robocop - 1st film was violent as hell. 2nd film was equally violent. Third film was f**ked over completely and THEN came a f**king PG rated TV series 'FOR THE KIDS'.   Terminator - The third one had an attractive female Terminator, and Arnie quoting Homosexual Strippers and wearing Elton John sunglasses. Shat on from a great height.  Starship Troopers - 1st one was very violent and a satire of Facist Propaganda. Then they made it into a f**king Saturday Morning TV show 'FOR THE KIDS'.  Alien and Predator - All 6 films in the franchise are 18/R rated. They meet in what should be a huge violent storm of blood, guts and swearing. But alas, no. The film is Paul AndersonOWNED. PG-13. A QUICK BUCK.
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: El Demonio Cazador on Jul 26, 2004, 01:26:08 PM
Quoting MAJOR DUTCH SCHAEFFER from Predator....:  "This gets better by the minute"....  How Ironic... the Slogan is:  Whoever Wins (FOX, P.Anderson) We lose (The fans)
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: J on Jul 26, 2004, 01:26:46 PM
No, tribalcore seriousily though WE all get so preopupied by the ratings that we fail to see EXACTLY what that film has to offer.  The ONLY thing through the whole development time I was going to get piss off about was that it could have STILL been in development hell ...  ... and you know once their there, it just drags on for god knows when. I'm just thankfull that they have aleast made this movie.  AT F***ING LAST!!!
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: Erez on Jul 26, 2004, 01:26:47 PM
Fox, keep giving me reasons to download this movie instead of waiting till October..
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: ElTiburon on Jul 26, 2004, 01:30:01 PM
this is dissapointing but i'm not as mad/furious as i thought it would be..i, robot was pg-13 and still alot of tense action, surprises, there was more than a few strong cuss words, no gore or blood for that matter...if avp was made like i, robot it will definitely be a good movie and a big blockbuster.. SO DO NOT ABANDON ALL HOPE ALL YE WHO WANTED R..i will still hold faith in all that i love about these franchises until i go to the movies and see it for myself! p.s. mtv is still saying "Not yet Rated"
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: Erez on Jul 26, 2004, 01:30:10 PM
Demonio this slogan is brilliant! Write this on big signs and stand with them in front of the theatres!!
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: Predatorfan2004 on Jul 26, 2004, 01:30:36 PM
lok, fox isnt gonna spend  millions of dollars just to please a certain group of ppl. I'm not pissed at them for it, but im still not gonna believe its pg-13 till i have teh proof. I still think its ognna be R. I know i sound stubborn but still i think so. I dont believ wat i hear until i hav eteh image along with that to see teh proof. but again. its not fox's fault either. they are suposed to want to make money. Its capitalism. I want it to be R, and with a film liek this it will most likely have an R dvd version. Anyway, Paul Anderson, thanks for all your work! Im sure he worked hsi ass off. As for me, it looks liek I'll be leaving this website in probly a matter of hours.
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Post by: ElTiburon on Jul 26, 2004, 01:35:21 PM
hey sfa have you seen starship troopers 2?!? LOL, i saw the first 5 minutes of it and the last 10 minutes of it cuz i fell asleep watching it...i'm gonna try to watch it again tonight tho...
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Post by: Erez on Jul 26, 2004, 01:35:46 PM
Predatorfan don't leave. F#$% those ratings
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Post by: SHURIKEN on Jul 26, 2004, 01:50:10 PM
hey everyone i was watching malcolm in the middle on fox around 6 45 and i seen an avp commercial and the anouncer dude said starts august 13th pg 13  worst has come to worst   but that is the good thing about being older is tha you can tell little kids in jr high to shut their mouths and parents to keep their kids quiet ill probly end up goin to the movie more than twice anyway if its good          lets just hope it is a long movie
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Post by: J on Jul 26, 2004, 01:51:50 PM
SFA, MAN, I know your angry but you risk any chance of THIS movie to suceed if you download it. Jonatron said one time that he would down load the movie if it turned out to be an R, now that it isn't he can watch it at the theatre, as was intended, just like THOUSAND of others who thought they couldn't watch it that now can.  Do you see where am coming from on this?  FOX wants to make bundles on this movie. They KNOW the fan base is HUGE  ( most being under age know doubt) so what better way to make millions than reducing the rating.   Buddy, it just makes for more business sense,FOX knows it has a gold winner, they need to exploit it to the fullest.
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Post by: dude on Jul 26, 2004, 01:59:24 PM
anyone who has any doubt about the pg13 rating should watch fox tonight i guarantee you more trailers will appear and all of you who say it's R can shut your pie holes.
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Post by: SHURIKEN on Jul 26, 2004, 02:02:17 PM
this sucks          hope to goodness that paul isnt blamed fox should take the heat for destroying 2 of the greatest horror and sci fi movies  and hopefully we get an unrated dvd
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Post by: Torch on Jul 26, 2004, 02:05:39 PM
Well, now I thinks it's safe to say that EVERY AVP fan across the world has 3 choices:  Option A: You go see AVP on August 13th (or whenever AVP opens in your country), watch the movie and come out very dissapointed- wasting your time and money, ultimately bringing $$$ into Fox and Paul Anderson's pockets, leaving them satisfied.  You will choose poorly if you select this option.  Option B: You wait till a 'Director's Cut' DVD get's released that doesn't have ANY blood and gore cut out, even though there shouldn't be a director's cut dvd.  You will choose risky (but wisely) if you select this option.  Option C: You just download it from wherever you can and get it for free, resulting in no money for Fox or PA.   ;D    I, personally will stick with option B.
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Post by: Nidza on Jul 26, 2004, 02:09:31 PM
I am not watching this movie in the cinema. I am buying it for 100 dinars (2 buck's) on local market.Or I ll just download it. Or I wont do even that at all.  JEBEM VAM MATER DA VAM JEBEM MATER ISFOLIRANU,MOGLO BUDE DOBRO AL PICKA VAM MATERE SVE CU DA VAS POBIJEM DA VAM JEBEM MAMU  ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !  ...Leting off some steam...
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Post by: screw Fox on Jul 26, 2004, 02:22:31 PM
did fox stop to think..both the Predator and Alien series franchises got huge movie cult status with R ratings!!  a pg-13 ok  but if it does get released at a run time around 90 mins..I won't waste my day to pay and see it..I'll get a freebie off the Internet
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Post by: Bringer of Death on Jul 26, 2004, 02:24:15 PM
I cant believe this shit, un fu$%ing believable, I still sa they would have made just as much money if it was R, look at Freddy vs Jason, that sucker was #1 for like 3 weeks at my theater and i live in Ontario Canada and the film was R.Made this is complete blastphemy I just cant believe that if Anderson is this 'huge' fan he says he is would even concider to do this shit when right off the bat he new it would be PG13.Man I think that pisses me off the most because I hate almost all of his movies but after seeing the featerettes and listening how passionate he sounded for this film I honestly had faith in this man do do something spectacular her and now I feel like ive been raped by him and fox.Shit Fox should loose the rights to both of these franchises now that this will be there 3rd terrible alien predator orianted film.Now i know im kinda jumping the gun abit since none of us have seen this yet but come on guys how good do you actualy believe this can be with it being PG 13? But hopefully like some of you have stated since its fictional creatures getting killed then mabey we will see pred and alien guts flying through the air.But im really still in shock over this rating I cant believe they think because its pg13 there will make more money.Like I said before for all of us older people that have grown up in the 80's when these magnificent creatures graced the silver screen are going to be dissapointed in the fact that this movie will in no doubt in my mind be a watered down version of what we all expected and dreamed about for the past 15 years damn it.That reason alone will turn alot of people off because juat hearing and seeing the PG 13 rating just makes you feel and think that this wont even be worth the time to go see because it will not be as intence and scary and horrific and violent as the previous movies that have come before it.These creatures were made with the intentions to scar and the provide a great R rated horror flick and now that is gone to appeal to the younger crowds for the simple fact of more money.And if this is PG13 what makes you think there will be a rated R directors cut, if anythin it will still be pg 13 but with some dileted scenes but not grusome gory as hell deleted scenes just scenes that didnt make the final cut due to time restraints and what not.So i guess that only thing you and I can hope and pray for now is if this movie will infact have any alien and pred blood and guts, well we know there will be a litlle bit of pred blood for sure as we saw in the trailer that the one prd ia getting mauled by ike 5 aliens and theres green florecsent blood glowing an the ground but the question is will we see the pred getting ripped  limb from limb like it should for a movie of this callibure with monsters of these reputation.Man im disapointed, so say all you want that im bitching and what not but my question to thatse who arnt , is you must not be the dedicated hard core fans i thought most of you were either that or you are under the age of 18 so this pg 13 rating is a blessing in disguise for you.   >:D    me dont likes on bit, boooooooooooooooooooooooo
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Post by: Nidza on Jul 26, 2004, 02:30:26 PM
O yeah about a sequal. I sincerelly hope they wont make one. Cause a sequal of an "probably" average popcorn movie for kids,can only suck.  I dont know of any movie that was average,or sucked,that a sequal was good.Not a single one.
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Post by: Aliasp on Jul 26, 2004, 02:54:01 PM
Yo lads I find it interesting that ppl are screaming for PA's neck already when  1) its still unoffocial as to what the rating will be 2) PA would've had his hands tied - blame Fox not PA  Who says the film will be a complete disaster even with a PG-13 rating? Lets be open about this guys... and make judgement once we have seen the film.
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Post by: *bury on Jul 26, 2004, 02:59:40 PM
ok why was aliens rated R??? for language, that would of not been an R for not language and what about Alien o becasue there wasnt a R back then. pg-13 is not all that bad at all but the 1 hour 27 min thing bothers me
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Post by: Oh on Jul 26, 2004, 02:59:50 PM
I believe it was mainly the Studios decision to go PG -13 but this is something that has to be decided early if so PA knew about it all along, and still went ahead.  Its also possible studio pressered him to delievering at PG-13 afterwards in which cuts would have to be made.  But yeah in the end Fox are greedy f**ks.
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Post by: *bury on Jul 26, 2004, 03:00:50 PM
i meant to say there wastn a pg-13 back then for alien

greddy eh? becasue they want to make money? thats the whole point of makin the movie and please the best two alien movies didnt have alot of gore in it and the last to did and werent as good
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Post by: Galmorzu on Jul 26, 2004, 03:05:02 PM
As others have said, I'm not bothered at all about the rating, but the short run-time really does.  Any time I've gone to see an action movie (or something along this line), and it's an hour and a half or less, people are always shocked when the movie ends because it feels so short an abrupt.  Jurassic Park III actually drew a groan when the credits came up because it felt like it started, stuff happened real fast, then smack we're tossed into the credits.  That's just too short to develop the characters and suspense for a movie like this.
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Post by: *bury on Jul 26, 2004, 03:07:39 PM
Why this way this movie might actualyy make more money than freaking alien ress  and i was going to refer to jurassic park 3 put Galmorzu already did and hes right
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Post by: Galmorzu on Jul 26, 2004, 03:08:38 PM
*bury:  That's exactly why I'm not worried.  You really never saw the aliens kill anyone in the first two movies, and I loved that much more than what we got in 3 (to a degree) but mostly 4.  The fact that you saw marines disappearing and could hear them in the second one, or saw the alien go after someone then disappear in the first one, I love that.  I hope it's done like that again.  As for the Preds, well some quick cutting can be just as good for that, or good camera angling.  We'll see when it comes out.
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Post by: *bury on Jul 26, 2004, 03:13:45 PM
yep exactly i mena those weree the better 2 out of the 4 and there will prob be a sequal since its pg-13
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Post by: SHURIKEN on Jul 26, 2004, 03:19:20 PM
hey aliasp it is official ive seen it twice on fox already it is pg 13       i think we should stop ripping on the movie until we see the movie in 19 days in america
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Post by: HellAlien on Jul 26, 2004, 03:21:12 PM
YOU GUYS R MAKIN ME SICK !!  Cmon !!!!!  Yes i saw a traila on MadTV and on fox, they both said it was 13, I also saw a traila on tsn, " not yet rated " I saw that one moments ago. Its still bit confused there. But if the friend of Darkness is tellin the truth, then fine, let it be. But the one to blame here is not PA. So quit it with the f***in b****in about him, and blame fox. They r the ones who made it this way. Not pa. I will be the first one to kick his poor loser m***er f***er a$$ if he dumped AVP. But we dont know that for sure yet. Its 13   SO WHAT!!!?? the movie might be good anyway. Of curse Im mad about the rating thing, of curse I would love to destroy fox with some well placed C4. I would love to send them to Hell right now. But PA is not to blame in this yet. I will wait till august 13 to see this. And if I get out of there disapointed and mad of what i saw then PA will have A HELL of a time dealing with the fans.  But for now, I wont aim his head yet, and i will c what he has done with this first.  I recommend hat you all do the same . He will be regreting that he was born if he messed up, but if he has done a good job, i hope that all of ya r goin to apologize to him for what ya said here. Fox had already ruined the Alien franchise and the pred one. But Avp is just partialy ruined for now. It might turn out to be very good. This is our dream and to all of ya who said that you wont see this in cinema, i say that your not the biggest fans here. I say that to be polite.  Its our dream ppl, i know that all of ya r deceived of this, but it might be better than all of ya think. Most of ya r already taken AVP to the graveyard. Its 13 yes so live with it. I will and im gonna c this. And if you guys r fans, you will c it too. Otherwise, Fox will do a crapy sequel to anihilate this thing once and for all. If Fox has enough money out of this, they will maybe try to get the real thing into this. The directors we love, maybe actors that we always wanted to see there. Who knows.   Anyway I know this is a long post, but you guys need to get up and face it. Its 13, but it might be damn good. A big chop of the honor of those 2 franchise is gone now, but we the fans can maybe do something on that. The sequel might be R. We can do major pressure on fox for that. If the movie is a big success, make a sequel rated R, or we will boycut it.  We could send this message to other fans over the net. we r alot that could do that. Enough to convince Fox to do it that way.   Anyway im done now. ( AH FINALLY !!      ;)     :)  )
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Post by: Predgirl on Jul 26, 2004, 03:22:41 PM
Well welll well I guess all of you hardcore fans then are not going to see this movie.  Well I'm a hardcore fan and I don't care if its good or bad or whatever at least I get to see a Predator kick a$$ and an Alien kick a$$.  So it proves if everyone here is  going to complain about AVP I guess you should not even think about AVP anymore because your complaining over a stupid rating.  All of you were so happy about the movie now your all like hating a movie that is not even out yet.  I was so happy and still happy about it and was wondering for thoses Pred fans going to see a Predator on the big screen again.  They kept making Alien movies, but what about the Predator.  All I see now is hating the movie than being happy that we get a AVP movie.  It proves to me I thought we are all were fans, but all I see is complainers and haters of a movie we all would love, but I guess I was wrong.  You all can hate or like or whatever of me, but I'm still going to see this movie no matter what.
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Post by: Cetanu on Jul 26, 2004, 03:37:48 PM
Okay you bunch of inmature cry babies. Listen to yourselves whine, over what? A freaking PG-13 rating? I mean, damn, please say your kidding me. No one here has paid attention to anything about this movie, either that or you've been devoting too much time into researching the wrong things. Listen up, I'll only say this once, and it better soak in with all of you. There was an article that is posted here on this site under the archives that states of how relaxed the MPAA standards have become. Okay, everyone here will agree that Alien and Aliens were immensely successful. All of you are crying over the prospect of not enough gore in this film, pay freaking attention right now to what I'm about to say! How much freaking gore and blood splattering was in those two movies? How about nearly none at all. Okay, in Alien the chestbursting scene was it, the rest was exactly what all of your are being so critical about, the camera panning away at the moment the Alien strikes. Well, its a technique that obviously didn't harm either movie, so how is this degrading news to all of you? True, most of you here are die hard Predator fans, and yes, in that film there was far more blood. In that film too however, there were several scenes that didn't show the actual death of a character. "Billy's" death was never shown. You never actually saw "Hawkins" get slashed. When "Poncho" got blasted upside the head brain bits didn't go every which way. Also, when "Billy's" spine gets ripped out, you see it happen at a distance in the dark, you never really saw any blood during that scene. Paul Anderson told the truth when he said that he was using the first two Alien films and the first Predator as a guide, and a PG-13 is a clear indication of that. Hardly any blood was neccessary to make those films a success, it was superb acting, entertaining characters and dedicated directing, and its those elements that Paul is trying to bring to this film, not blood and guts people, that doesn't make a good film. Predator 2 ring a bell anyone? That was all about gore, did that film do well? Not a chance in hell. Besides, think about it, a PG-13 film today due to relaxed standards is probably the equivalent of the R rating back in the 80's when those movies were made. Also, anyone seen the previews for the film, The Village. I dont know about you but that film looks scary as hell, and guess what people, what rating does it have? *Drum roll*. PG freaking 13! That film is all about horror, Paul Anderson is creating a film that is being shot to try and recreate the feel of two movies that were all about horror. Besides, who's to say that a PG-13 isn't just a cover. Watch this film be freaking R - Rated material, but behind the scenes Fox Studios probably made a deal with the MPAA to let them slap on a PG-13 rating to what the MPAA knows is supposed to be an R - Rated movie so they can rake in the dough, money they can set aside so in the future an AvP sequel can be filmed, and with all the money from the PG-13 strategy than it has all the potential to be twice as good like Aliens was to Alien. Also, Paul Anderson did not pull everything out of his ass to appease the fans. He's telling the truth when he says he's directing a movie to have the same feel and style as the first two Aliens and Predator. Think about it. Its already concrete proof that Paul said that we will not get a glimpse of any of the creatures until 45 minutes into AvP. Guess what folks, in Alien, when did the facehugger show up? 45 minutes into the film did that slimy face - raper show up. Also, if the 134 minute length is indeed accurate, guess what again folks, the Aliens film, the theatrical version was 137 minutes long! Still dont believe it when he says he's using the greatest sci - fi movies of all time for guides? I dont wany to hear anymore whining about the rating folks, ya hear!? Dont point fingers at Fox, or at Paul Anderson. All of you need to keep your mouths shut until the movie comes out on August 13th, then when you have sat through it all, then it will be a time for your opinion on whether the film was "good" or "bad", but until then, never lose faith in AvP, or in Paul Anderson. This is a new franchise, Paul said it himself, its based off the smash hit other two, but its not them, this is meant to stand on its own two feet. Those were two R - Rated franchises, AvP may have been destined for PG-13. Stay optimistic folks, cheer up, chin up! Nothing to worry about I assure you!
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Post by: *bury on Jul 26, 2004, 03:38:08 PM
yes it does i mean they write it from the movie
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Post by: Nyder on Jul 26, 2004, 03:41:53 PM
Why is everybody blaming FOX?  They are not a charity, they are out to make money, that's what a corporation does for its employees, stockholders, debtors, etc.  If you want to blame someone, blame the GOVERNMENT.  They are the ones enforcing these stupid ratings and making up these stupid rules about content.  Really they are the irrational ones and it is because of their ignorance and shallow-mindedness that we have seen heaps of movies butchered just so they can recover their costs!  It's a hidden form of censorship.    So the blame the ****ing bureaucrat control freaks!    >:D  
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Post by: Galmorzu on Jul 26, 2004, 03:43:07 PM
*applauds Cetanu*    Brilliantly said.  Unfortunetly I don't think most people are going to care, even if it's all true.  *bury:  I've read some novelizations that follow their respective movies closely, and others that REALLY haven't, so I have a pretty good intuition about this, and AvP felt more like the latter.
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Post by: Predatorfan2004 on Jul 26, 2004, 03:51:05 PM
Ok, a promise is a promise. I banish myself form this site. I just saw teh commercial during malcom in teh middle. ITS PG-13!
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Post by: Galmorzu on Jul 26, 2004, 03:52:08 PM
Heh, I have a few friends that actually work in "the industry" and I can't even begin to tell you the stories of how messed up the production companies can act towards the people making a film.  They really DO come to the director while making the movie and slap down demands, typically wanting changes made to the movie itself for rating purposes.  Yeah this pisses off the directors, but in the end they have nothing to do about it other than walk off "due to creative differences".  I wouldn't doubt that this is what happened here.  Average hollywood politics, folks.  Happens all the time, and I'll GUARANTEE you that Anderson was none to happy to hear this.  But really, what's he going to do?  Walk off and let some new guy come in and take over halfway through?  That really would have ruined the film.
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Post by: Somebody on Jul 26, 2004, 03:58:10 PM
Well, I only have one more comment: those poeple at Fox, are *beep* *beep* *beep* *beep* *beep* *beep* *beep* *beep* *beep* *beep* *beep* *beep* *beep* *beep* *beep* oh, and also  *beep* *beep* *beep* *beep* *beep* *beep*    Thank you!
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Post by: xx13 on Jul 26, 2004, 04:05:03 PM
I hope ther's a directors cut but bot only on DVD but also in theaters  because watching a directors cut on DVD and in the theater is not the same.
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Post by: CelticPredator on Jul 26, 2004, 04:10:35 PM
i will see it cuz ive been waiting too long for this, and i will enjoy it cuz my fave pred celtic is in it, go celtic,
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Post by: Regicidal_Maniac on Jul 26, 2004, 04:14:09 PM
Most of you kids are not yet 18 years old, judging by the base level of discourse and the hilarious reasons for your objections to a low rating.  You should be pleased that you can now go and see the film legally.  Me, I'm old, I saw Alien in 1983 then Aliens at Hoyts on George Street in 1986 here in Sydney. Saw Predator the next year and have been a fan of the comics since Dark Horse first started publishing them. Do you hear me complaining that kids are going to see this film I've been waiting for?  No you don't. Firstly because I'm not a whiney little bitch, secondly it pleases me to see the films gain newer fans who can later discover the originals thanks to this entrypoint but mostly because I know how things work and you idiots should consider yourselves lucky that you are seeing this AT ALL. It could have remained in development hell forever.  Still I guess that'd just give you one more thing to complain about seeing as how you like to complain so much.  Don't sweat it just buy your fecking popcorn, sit down quit your yapping and enjoy the damn movie.  If you're unable to do that because you cannot enjoy a film based solely on the fact that it lacks sufficient swearing and gore to make it 'seem real to you' then I pity you as your life must be SO empty, and sad.
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Post by: xx13 on Jul 26, 2004, 04:14:31 PM
Did anybody do that e-mail that darkness said to send to fox to make the movie R. Well i Didn;t cause i was to lazy expecting everyone else would do it. Well im gonna do it now cuz  theres stilll time at least 2 weeks.
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Post by: HeavyPred on Jul 26, 2004, 04:16:36 PM
well, at least I'm guaranteed to get in now. if it was R-Rated, I might have had a harder time getting into the theatre, even though I look the proper age. but i guess this has its ups and downs   ???  
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Post by: Torch on Jul 26, 2004, 04:53:27 PM
Well said Cetanu.  I think you've single-handedly changed my negative view about AVP now that I read your summary.  You made some excellent points on the whole atmosphere of the first 2 Alien and first Predator movies and how they didn't need sh*tloads of gore to have it become successful.  Now I must say that just because it worked for those movies doesn't mean that It'll work for AVP, but we'll just have to find out August 13th.  I think now, ALL of us AVP fans should get back on the positive side of things.  Let us not be worried about the damn rating anymore.  Let's just go see it, pray for the best, and be thankful that we even get to see our beloved creatures battling it out on-screen.
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Post by: Evan Burt on Jul 26, 2004, 04:54:15 PM
Uhhh...AVP is going to be nothing but garbage. They should have abandoned the project when the corporate douche bags opted for a PG-13.
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Post by: Galmorzu on Jul 26, 2004, 04:59:10 PM
Well, Burt convinced me!     ;D  
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Post by: beeko on Jul 26, 2004, 05:19:19 PM
untill i see it on the offical site im still hoping , like its been said before when you look at aliens the only real gore scene was the chesterbuster,so im guessing that if aliens wwas released today it would be pg13 when i saw alien3 in sydney it was only rated M which is recommened for 15 years and over but not restricted, im still looking foward to a movie with action/suspense/horror etc
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Post by: Shadowpred on Jul 26, 2004, 05:24:46 PM
It is official last night there was a new preview on television and it now states that it is in fact PG-13   >:D     well i'm still going to see it though.
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Post by: AdamJZ on Jul 26, 2004, 05:27:34 PM
Even if it is PG-13, there are plenty of good PG-13, ultra viloent and somewhat gory films (and the kiddy starship troopers show rocked so dont make fun of it!) You may be addicted to gore, I like it, but I dont breathe it.  Besides, we will see plenty of alienn and predator gore (The MPAA, dosent care about it if the blood is not red) I got that info from Hicks. and It still will rock. here is a list of really good, viloent PG-13's  HellBoy (at first, fans thought it should be R because of the viloent content in the comics.)  Master & Commander  Jurassic Park Trilogy  Jaws movies  DareDevil  M. night. Shalaman's movies  The Ring  The Fugitive  Clear and Present Danger  the Sphere  AND IT IS NOT CONFIRMED PG-13!!! just becuase some of you say you saw it dosnt prove anything!!! people said the same thing about Terminator 3, they said I saw the new trailer its PG-13, well guess what...it wasnt. and even if AVP is PG-13, I really dont give a f**k... Because some of my favorite movies are PG-13, I would Prefer it to be an R, but I am fine with PG-13
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Post by: Dachande on Jul 26, 2004, 05:31:38 PM
again, all i have to say to everyone is that green blood isn't technically rated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Galmorzu on Jul 26, 2004, 05:34:02 PM
That's right.  The trailers for Resident Evil had the one scene with the zombie lunging edited so that he was in black and white and his blood was purple, that way it was suitable for all audiences even though the actual image was still pretty gruesome.
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Post by: JustAnotherAlien on Jul 26, 2004, 05:36:09 PM
Slovarik, thank you for using my "pillowcases" comment on the forum. The executives @ fox needed to know their secret is out...  I just cant imagine anyone in their right mind allowing 10, 11, and 12 year olds to see this movie. Greedy corporate executives, they only care for themselves and their money.
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Post by: El Demonio Cazador on Jul 26, 2004, 06:07:51 PM
Oh man... it's so pathetic how some of you still don't believe it's PG 13... its funny though.... I would Blame P.A. more than FOX.... he decided to go on board on a project that was PG 13 since the beggining.... And it's even funnier the naive ones who think that the DVD is going to have all the stuff that the theatrical trailer hasn't... This ain't Peter jacskon and L of the Rings... P.A. agreed to film a PG 13 movie... and misled the fans... and we're going to see a Low Carb/Low Sugar Alien and Predator... This should be called AVP:Light and I'm quoting myself on the ironic slogan....    
QuoteHow Ironic...  the Slogan is:   Whoever Wins (FOX, P.Anderson)  We lose (The fans)
[/b]   Saludos
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Post by: flonge on Jul 26, 2004, 06:08:18 PM
I've just read the novelization for the second time now in 3 days...  I was impressed with the book, I loved every minute of it, and I think the movie will turn out to be very good no matter what happens... if its 80% of the novelization it will still be pretty good...  But then the rating is official... PG-13... In the novelization the pred's do some pretty gory kills to human, I guess they will be edited to look ... I don't know but it can't be good.. I was looking forward to se the brains fall of Quinn and to se the norwegian whale hunters hanged with blood dripping...  Nevertheless the novelization at least is pretty good and should be a good read to most FANS, and if the movie is just like it I am sure it will please most fans. But if its a light version of the novelization then I think most fans will be disappointed....
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Post by: Regicidal_Maniac on Jul 26, 2004, 06:13:46 PM
Greedy studios executives?  It's not art to them it's just a business.   Is there any compelling reason why studio executives should care for anything but the continuance of their careers and the financial returns that they can secure for their studios in order that they should rise up the ladder to become studio bosses?  Execs are not artists, believe me, I'm not even sure if they're human, but it's their job to guarantee a higher return for the studio's initial outlay.  In a way they are a lot like investment bankers, no disrespect to the bankers of the world but when was the last time an art gallery had a showing of a high yield share portfolio? These people are money men, bean counters and like it or not they call the shots.  Directors like Cameron, extremely principled artists and auteurs, are few and far between. It takes a big man/woman to get their back up and tell an uncreative moneyman where he can shove all those cards he's holding. I feel for Anderson, I really do as he has, to quote George Costanza: "no hand".  He doesn't get to say how it's going to be and he has no right to final cut as he's just a director for hire, the same way you would hire a painter to paint the side of your house or an electrician to fix your wiring.  He may be the writer/director but he's not an auteur, it's not his project, it's not his sandpit and they're not his toys. TwenCenFox owns all the toys and the sandpit and they had every right to kick him out if they didn't like the way he was playing. Sad but true.  Until any of us AVP fans has the gumption, or more likely crazy-streak, to independantly finance, produce and create an AVP film with the hopes of being able to sell it to Fox on a negative pickup deal you have no choice but to accept the way things are and just enjoy the damn film.  Let me just say right now that even if you did create the world's best Alien, Predator or AVP film using your own finances, time, blood, sweat and tears, they would still be well with their rights as owners of the intellectual property to refuse outright and turn around and sue you for infringement of copyright. Which would leave you out of pocket and with one hell of a fan-film which you could never screen.  However, if you were crazy enough to go down this road and talented enough to pull it off, the world would be your oyster regardless of whether Fox agreed to your negative pickup demands. It would make one pretty bitchin' showreel and would open every door in Hollywood as everyone loves a go-getter, especially a crazy, passionate and talented go-getter.  I urge those of you with more money than sense and time and talent to burn to give it a go, you've got my support you crazy sonofabitch, more power to you.  But until that shining day, may it soon come, when the garage-school desktop filmmakers of the world are given sweetheart deals and six-figure greenlight contracts by major Hollywood studios for their crazy, passionate devotion to play with licensed film characters you're just going to have to learn to deal with the way things are.
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: tribalcore on Jul 26, 2004, 06:28:24 PM
bringer of death im with you hardcore style.  like i said before. me taking a shit is probably going to be more violent then this movie.  p.s. bringer of death arent you the one into metal if so did u go to ozzfest?
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: Demonicus666 on Jul 26, 2004, 06:42:01 PM
  >:D    I fu**ing knew it those damn sh**heads at Fox screwed up this whole movie.  I knew it I waited 14 years for this movie to come out!!  And what happens it becomes pg-13!!!  Fuking Fox suits I swear they just want the damn money, well you know what I am going to only see this movie once and thats it.  It's gonna be a cheap ass version of the Predator and Aliens fighting, I mean I expected skinned human bodies, spinal cords being ripped off.  But no now I get to see is a shitty version of AVP, because Fox decides to give it a pg-13 rating.  YOU know fox let me tell you something, the fans are the ones that brought the light and the fanbase to these two great franchies.  Now you let the fans down, for a cheap ass version to get some more money.  If it wasnt for the fans, Aliens and Predator woudlnt be were it is today.  I hope these bastards know what they are doing, becuase they are going to piss alot of fans off, and I am really pissed off!  I mean come on people, this is ALIEN VS PREDATOR!!, not Pokemon!!!  I mean seriously folks, there is going to be no chestbursting scenes, no ailens ripping preds apart.  I read the book and gee, I knew from the start it wasnt going to be R.  I am blaming Fox for this not Paul Anderson.  Now I know that Fox, doesnt care for the fans anymore.  I have been with Aliens and Predator since day one, when I saw the movies as a child.  I read the books, comic books, games, movies, toys.  I just hope Fox doesnt f**k up another movie like this.  In fact I think they making a big mistake like a certain, company that made a recent moive that deals with a cat.  You screw around with the fans, and they wont support you anymore.  Just look at the movie box office for that one cat movie. Im really pissed off in the direction fox is going with Avp.
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: Evan Burt on Jul 26, 2004, 06:56:16 PM
Don't condone such an outrageous butchery of the AVP franchise. If you watch the film, it simply gives the suits reason to make all of the subsequent sequels Pg-13 as well.
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: tribalcore on Jul 26, 2004, 07:00:17 PM
Fox = Shit
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Post by: El Diablo on Jul 26, 2004, 07:01:29 PM
Since this news hit I've been hearing comments from people who are ready to embrace the new rating, people who claim that we are overreacting. I don't think they really understand why we find it to be such a problem. The fact that this movie is PG-13 means that it has been edited with certain limitations. That means that it will be a watered down version of what was intended to be on screen and I have a big problem with that, especially since I'm a huge fan of these films.  I know that the Alien and Predator movies were never about the gore but they weren't afraid to show the audience just how dangerous these creatures could be. It's going to lose that visceral punch that made the previous films work so well.   It is possible to create a PG-13 thriller with atmosphere and suspense and still make it scary but this is an entirely different animal. This is adult sci-fi horror based on characters who thrive on death for sport or procreation. That was never meant to be watered down for general audiences.
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: SENTINEL on Jul 26, 2004, 07:03:05 PM
LETS vote who wants PAUL DIC_ HEAD fired!, i have one vote   >:D   and then when everyone has voted lets send to PAUL.And lets see what see has to say about that.
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: Evan Burt on Jul 26, 2004, 07:05:16 PM
Paul Anderson isn't to blame for the overall rating, it's the studio's fault. Either don't go see AVP, or don't see any film distributed by 20th Century Fox.
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: JustAnotherAlien on Jul 26, 2004, 07:05:17 PM
They are probably trying to catch the kids into this. Ironically they are competing with a movie schedueled to be released the same day:  Yu-Gi-Oh(shit!)  This movie is now "AvP light" as some of you call it. I prefer "AvP Fat-free," and just like the oreo's, they are just like steel wool.Only for your eyes.
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: GJL on Jul 26, 2004, 08:08:15 PM
Hey all, I just wanted to say that down in Australia, all of the Alien movies apart from Resurection have been M (PG-13 ) and the first Predator was M, so maybe the US ratings arent as harsh anymore like the aussies, but time will tell.
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: AdamJZ on Jul 26, 2004, 08:51:34 PM
FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS GOOD AND HOLY!!!! STOP BITCHING ABOUT THE RATING!!! who gives a f**k if it is PG-13??? I mean, it could be a good turen for the franchise. and belive it or not if this movie wasnt PG-13, there will never be a sequal. Fox dosnst care about just money? it knows also for a film to be successful it must have above avarage quality, it is trying to introduce the franchise to the everyday person, there are many PG-13 movies that kids dont go to.  so dont be complaining about some 12 year old kicking your seat, it aint gonna happen! AND IF YOU WANT TO WHINE LIKE BABIES AND COMPLAIN, THEN JUST DONT SEE THE MOVIE!!!! ITS THAT SIMPLE!!!!
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: AdamJZ on Jul 26, 2004, 08:54:53 PM
A True AVP fan will except AVP if it is Great,  not for the level of viloence.
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: J on Jul 26, 2004, 09:00:01 PM
This is stupid, WHY IS MOSTLY EVERYONE CUSSING PAUL ANDERSON ANY WAY? WHY???  OF COURSE HE WANTED THIS MOVIE TO BE R BUT UNFORTUNATELY HE DOESN'T HAVE THAT KIND OF POWER TO MAKE THAT DECISION.  ' O, THE MOVIE ISN'T R RATED SO AM GOING TO DOWNLOAD IT OFF THE INTERNET!!!! WHAT KIND OF BULLSHIT IS THAT? ' it wasn't so long ago that the majority of you lot were saying that this movie is going to kick ass, and now your all saying that you don't want to see it because of a mere rating?? HOW THE HELL CAN YOU CALL YOURSELVES FANS??  After we have all seen the movie it's going to be interesting to hear the reactions from ' the fans '.
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: Aliasp on Jul 26, 2004, 09:20:03 PM
I am little wee bit confused here ... as in Australia our rating system is different to that of the US.  Any aussies wanna fill me in  wots the equivalent of PG-13 in Australia? Is that like our M15+ ????
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: Evan Burt on Jul 26, 2004, 09:37:32 PM
A true AVP will not go to the film due to something called "standards". This new piece of lard isn't even entertainment.
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: Baseman on Jul 26, 2004, 09:52:31 PM
Hey everyone, so i just came to Santa Barabara and read about the PG13 thing.  But I went to Comic-Con international in San Diego this weekend and they showed a AVP clip w/ action.  IT LOOKS GREAT!  It was about a 3-5min clip of an Alien fighting some preds. I'm on the Pred team, but that Alien is freaking evil.  There is some gore in the movie, don't worry.  So the movie this look pretty damn cool.  Just because a movie is rated R, doesn't mean it is gonna be great.  SO far it looks cool.   :)  
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: Pisschist on Jul 26, 2004, 09:53:30 PM
WHY THE f**k DID PA SAY IT WAS A RATED R?!!!! WAT THE f**k IS THE POINT IN LIEING, ITS GONNA COME OUT SOONER OR LATER AND WE'RE ALL GONNA FIND OUT!!!! PG-13....WTF!!! AWWWWWWW PRED & ALIEN ARE CUDDLEY TEDDIES.....ERM OOOOK   >:D  
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: sequel on Jul 26, 2004, 10:07:32 PM
well phantom menace sucked it was a kid's mega toy commercial called a movie and clones was a bit better so sequels to a bad film can improve    :)  
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: Baseman on Jul 26, 2004, 10:10:32 PM
By the way, I'm a hardcore AVP fan, I bought the comics when they first came out, i see the freakin' trailer on the official website at least once a day.  So, NO MATTER WHAT,  I WILL SEE THE MOVIE.  I'm not a big fan of paul anderson (I DIDN'T LiKE RESIDENT EVIL, WHICH i'm pretty sure was rated R) But ask anyone who went to comic-con and they will tell you what they thought of the clip.  CRAZY!!!  Out of respect for you guys, I'm not going to give away any spoilers, but if you want me to tell you what happens...ACTION.  NO the preds and aliens don't "talk out there differences" if it is PG13.  The humans are not mediators for the quarreling aliens. The Clip at comic con showed some DOPE ASS FIGHTING, not thumb wrestling.  SO, DON"T HATE, PARTICIPATE.  And I DO HAVE STANDARDS, That is why I'm going to check out the film and then say if I like it or not.
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: leftcoastpunk08 on Jul 26, 2004, 10:23:21 PM
Guys....  uhh..THERE'S GONNA BE PLENTY OF ALIEN AND PREDATOR GORE! Only the human deaths are toned down!  GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ!
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: Evan Burt on Jul 26, 2004, 10:55:12 PM
Where are all these trailers with PG-13? I think all you guys are lying because I've been watching FOX all night without even one.
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: MoBiUG on Jul 26, 2004, 11:28:01 PM
Meh. If a predator spits a face hugger in half with a shuriken blade, that's creature on creature violence, it looks cool. If a predator splits a man's face in half with a shuriken blade that's creature on man violence and also looks cool. Since the title of this film is ALIEN Vs PREDATOR I expect much more creature on creature violence which is fantastical. Wouldn't matter if these beasts ripped each other to pieces in a white room, spraying their insides all over the walls. It's still fantasty violence and not worthy of a gut renching certificate. Who cares? Do the trailers not look cool?
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: Ragnarock on Jul 26, 2004, 11:42:27 PM
PG-13, damn what a rip. ill be payin good money to see a stupid PG-13 movie? WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU FOX?!!!!!! Haven't you learnt anything from the past? At least give it a 15 rating but PG? goddamn i hope you give us a good reason for this.
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: Crash on Jul 27, 2004, 12:04:33 AM
Im from Australia and ive just seen the first advertisement for AvP, dont know if they have showed it b4 but ive never seen it b4. It also just aired during the Big Brother Finale, which i would say is been watched by a few million.....  However it didnt have a rathing during it that i noticed, if it is played again ill have another look but i didnt see it the first time.....
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Post by: Cookies on Jul 27, 2004, 12:09:20 AM
shit not even the video game was pg13.  It was mature rating.
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: IndianaJones on Jul 27, 2004, 12:10:40 AM
Its official now, they have updated the AvP website with the PG-13 rating.
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: Crash on Jul 27, 2004, 12:11:55 AM
Yeah the site has been updated, i posted that just after my other post but for some reason it didnt show up, i donno why
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: OMEGA on Jul 27, 2004, 12:13:26 AM
YEP YOUR RIGHT FOR VIOLENCE, LANGUAGE, HORROR IMAGES, SLIME AND GORE
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: Cookies on Jul 27, 2004, 12:20:07 AM
wow this movie is gonna be great!   COUGH so this means we are not gonna see any red blood whats so ever!  I think paul should have made the human blood blue then he can go all out and make the pred rip what every they wanted out its body.   And its nice to see how decapating a pred is perfectly alright but as long as you dont do it to a human.   So remember kids  have a good time killing the shit out of anything that doesnt look like a human,  Just make sure you do it with the lights on becuase you never know if your grandmother walks in your room.
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: Cookies on Jul 27, 2004, 12:24:36 AM
looking at back at novel (so glad i just finished it yesturday night)  THE MOST TERRIFYING FORCES IN THE UNIVERSE ARE ABOUT TO FIGHT TO THE DEATH.... so terrifying that i only deserves a pg13.   Wonder what new creatures fox will come up with for rated R. I think todays standerds are so f**ked up on movies and yet games get it soo bad!  NOW THATS MESSED UP.  I think movies rated R now are pornos?
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: topman on Jul 27, 2004, 12:30:42 AM
the rating isn't offical yet. but i can't believe this is happening a PG-13!!! does that mean it will be a 15 in the UK? why would they make this a pg-13? i don't get it? its ALIEN VS PREDATOR!!! let me show you something: Alien R Aliens R Alien 3 R Alien Resurrection R Predator R Predator 2 R Alien vs Predator PG-13? WHAT?!?!?!?!?!
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: Predator Wave on Jul 27, 2004, 12:39:36 AM
I'm not really all that disappointed of its final rating. PG13 or not, I'm still going to see it no matter the odds. I'm still going to see it, no matter what. No matter if the content of the PG13 rating is stated "for sci-fi violence and language." Like they say in the movie business sometimes, better a bad a movie then no movie made at all.
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: Cookies on Jul 27, 2004, 12:50:18 AM
well that saying doesnt go for movies that have more then 2 movies behind their back since it will kill the franchise and make those great past movies crap.
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: Grifth on Jul 27, 2004, 01:02:13 AM
ok let me get this thing straigth. first off I AM A FAN of the movies im 21 years old and i seen predator and alien movies so many times that when paul anderson says it would be hard to find someone that as watched the movies so many times as him i automatically think of myself. and to all saying ppl are blowing this rating issue out of porpotions ARE WRONG this movie should be R im not a gore fanatic! but its not about gore its about a certain chestbuster scene and a spinal cord being removed both tradmarks of each series! please and a pg13 means we wont get to see any off this. i am gonna download this for sure because actually i cant wait two months before it reachs my country. if its good hell i will see it in theathers once it gets here... heres to hopping.
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Post by: Roadkill Xeno on Jul 27, 2004, 01:07:07 AM
Strange.... PG-13 for language, gore violence sounds like R
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Post by: Oh on Jul 27, 2004, 02:09:03 AM
Hey yes they are being greedy it would do well as an R, I know that for a fact.  PG13 is shit, put it this way it might not be bad but you know for a fact it probably could have been alot better.  If anyone here was making the movie and you could do what u wanted, not one persons final product would be a PG-13. no f**king way.
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Post by: J on Jul 27, 2004, 07:13:33 AM
UNLESS FOX release this as a PG-13 then re- release it to an R on DVD with more footage.
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: Terhou on Jul 27, 2004, 10:56:18 PM
Too much about the PG-13
Title: Re: PG13 Official Very Soon...
Post by: Ragnarock on Jul 31, 2004, 08:07:01 PM
Coming from australia, all i can say is that y bitch and complain about the greatest match up in history? like renegade said: this movie could still be in development hell.  despite the fact that it has gotten a pg rating, it can still turn out to be a good movie. correct me if im wrong but wasnt lord of the rings: the fellowship rated m15? and that was for fantasy mind u. this is sci-fi however and its pg, which means there must be an uncut dvd coming in the near future. It's not the end of the world just because its a low rating, u might like it once u see it so just give it a chance, or u could do what the diehard fans r doing: bitching about it long into the night and completely missing the premiere when she arrives.