We've had a lot of discussion predicting what kind of money this film will make. Well, now that it's upon us, i reckon we ought to have a thread for it. I didn't see one, at least not on the past few pages. It's off to a 5.5 million start over Wednesday/Thursday, and looks as if it's going to hit big in the UK this weekend...
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/box-office-prometheus-snow-white-uk-332235 (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/box-office-prometheus-snow-white-uk-332235)
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Here are some great sites to check for tracking the domestic launch this weekend. Most will also list there projections either tomorrow or early Friday. I'll be sure to post 'em as i see 'em, but if you want to check them all out yourself, here you go:
http://www.boxoffice.com/ (http://www.boxoffice.com/)
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/ (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/) (Twitter: @boxofficemojo)
http://www.boxofficeprophets.com/ (http://www.boxofficeprophets.com/)
http://www.ercboxoffice.com/ (http://www.ercboxoffice.com/) (Twitter: ERCboxoffice)
http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/ (http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/)
There are of course other sites, but these are 5 solid options. ERC likes to beat all others to the bunch. Deadline Hollywood typically gives 6 updates over the course of the weekend. 2 a day, 1 in the AM, 1 in the PM.
Wow! Awesome....get ready....I think it's gonna make some money!
I want it to do really well and make loads of money . I want an even bigger budget to go into a sequel.
Quote from: ripley161 on Jun 02, 2012, 07:12:11 AM
I want it to do really well and make loads of money . I want an even bigger budget to go into a sequel.
yep,me too.
watched it last night, wasn't impressed, BUT , i still want it to make a shed load of cash so they can make more movies and hopefully improve on the first,
problem is, there were only about 15 to 20 people at the showing i went to!. i hope thats not a reflection of what happened at other cinemas.
thanks
rich
Quote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Jun 02, 2012, 09:43:13 AM
watched it last night, wasn't impressed, BUT , i still want it to make a shed load of cash so they can make more movies and hopefully improve on the first,
problem is, there were only about 15 to 20 people at the showing i went to!. i hope thats not a reflection of what happened at other cinemas.
thanks
rich
Well I've seen it twice, once at midnight and then at 11.30 in the morning and both were pretty busy.
I just want a sequel so they can give me some answers.
Quote from: Divpax on Jun 02, 2012, 09:57:58 AM
Quote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Jun 02, 2012, 09:43:13 AM
watched it last night, wasn't impressed, BUT , i still want it to make a shed load of cash so they can make more movies and hopefully improve on the first,
problem is, there were only about 15 to 20 people at the showing i went to!. i hope thats not a reflection of what happened at other cinemas.
thanks
rich
Well I've seen it twice, once at midnight and then at 11.30 in the morning and both were pretty busy.
thats good then, probably just my city thats a bit strange then!. lol
thanks
rich
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 02, 2012, 09:59:55 AM
I just want a sequel so they can give me some answers.
yeah, hopefully a lot better explanation of how the goo works and the alien life cycle because it makes no sense now, and also why the engineers would want to destroy what they created.
thanks
rich
I wish the film stunning financial success, so they can make a sequel ... and I hope they listen to the criticisms, so they avoid the same ridiculous mistakes.
I think it will initially do well, though weather or not it will make money I don't know as they must have spent an incredible amount of money hyping this film. Now I know why, as it isn't a film that will do well off of word of mouth.
It's tracking to make about $60 million on the opening weekend according to Boxoffice.com and HSX (on deadline).
I am in UK Dorset. Was in Poole Empire Cinema for Friday 8.30pm showing. There was a que to get in. The cinema was fully booked and is pretty much booked for every hour showing for the whole diamond jubilee weekend. I would say it was quite an older crowd in the cinema much more than normal (i go every week).
There were quite a few groans on the ending of the film though. No suprise there though with the generic ending.
Bournemouth Odeon I believe was fully booked.
Its all looking good for overall income for the film.
I hope it will be successful in the hope that it will encourage studios to develop and fund movies dealing with big and potentially controversial ideas. :)
Imo 80% of what is made in Hollywood today, aren't worth 20% of the effort put into making the movies in the first place.
Oh, and a Prometheus sequel would be nice too... ;)
Quote from: james757 on Jun 02, 2012, 11:45:23 AM
I am in UK Dorset. Was in Poole Empire Cinema for Friday 8.30pm showing. There was a que to get in. The cinema was fully booked and is pretty much booked for every hour showing for the whole diamond jubilee weekend. I would say it was quite an older crowd in the cinema much more than normal (i go every week).
There were quite a few groans on the ending of the film though. No suprise there though with the generic ending.
Bournemouth Odeon I believe was fully booked.
Its all looking good for overall income for the film.
thats good to hear, im from hull, east yorkshire, it was a little strange, as ive seen almost every alien/predator movie at cinema and theyve all been packed on first night, cinema was empty last night. dont know if its just that cinema, or just nobody in this city that interested in this movie.
thanks
rich
Quote from: Valaquen on Jun 02, 2012, 10:13:56 AM
I wish the film stunning financial success, so they can make a sequel ... and I hope they listen to the criticisms, so they avoid the same ridiculous mistakes.
Simple solution - drop Damon Lindelof down a very deep hole and keep him well away from any sequel. :)
Quote from: JonesTheCat on Jun 02, 2012, 01:33:52 PM
Quote from: Valaquen on Jun 02, 2012, 10:13:56 AM
I wish the film stunning financial success, so they can make a sequel ... and I hope they listen to the criticisms, so they avoid the same ridiculous mistakes.
Simple solution - drop Damon Lindelof down a very deep hole and keep him well away from any sequel. :)
but Jonsey, it is only the Lindlcock who knows the "answers" to future sequels
Quote from: orchidal on Jun 02, 2012, 01:37:26 PM
Quote from: JonesTheCat on Jun 02, 2012, 01:33:52 PM
Quote from: Valaquen on Jun 02, 2012, 10:13:56 AM
I wish the film stunning financial success, so they can make a sequel ... and I hope they listen to the criticisms, so they avoid the same ridiculous mistakes.
Simple solution - drop Damon Lindelof down a very deep hole and keep him well away from any sequel. :)
Hah - I'm sure that a GOOD writer could come up with far better answers than Damy Lindy. :)
but Jonsey, it is only the Lindlcock who knows the "answers" to future sequels
Though primarily about he domestic success of Snow White, it also touches on Prometheus's international start, particularly in the UK. It's doing well...
http://www.deadline.com/2012/06/snow-white-and-the-huntsman-opens-to-1-383m-midnights-from-1092-theaters-better-than-mib3/#more-280573 (http://www.deadline.com/2012/06/snow-white-and-the-huntsman-opens-to-1-383m-midnights-from-1092-theaters-better-than-mib3/#more-280573)
I went to view the film on opening night, here in the UK. The cinema was packed!
Quote from: St_Eddie on Jun 02, 2012, 08:46:28 PM
I went to view the film on opening night, here in the UK. The cinema was packed!
I saw a midnight screening here in the UK. It was a full house. I then went to a 10am showing the following morning. Full house again. :)
lol, it must just be my city then, or the cinema i went to, but seriously, there were about 15 to 20 people in the 8pm showing, i could have sat anywhere, then there were only about 3 people waiting for the next showing when i left.
and is it just me or are there more and more adverts in cinema every year?, it seemed like the ads were on about 45 mins at least!
thanks
rich
Quote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Jun 02, 2012, 09:24:20 PM
lol, it must just be my city then, or the cinema i went to, but seriously, there were about 15 to 20 people in the 8pm showing, i could have sat anywhere, then there were only about 3 people waiting for the next showing when i left.
and is it just me or are there more and more adverts in cinema every year?, it seemed like the ads were on about 45 mins at least!
thanks
rich
Yeah, adverts seem to be getting longer. I didn't mind the Colonial Marines advert though. ;)
I had no adverts at the midnight showing. It was bliss. :)
Saw the midday showing in Harrow today. About 20 people max.
22:00 showing on launch day in Amsterdam is what I went to. Full house. People even sat on our designated seats and we had to shoo them off. :)
Quote from: St_Eddie on Jun 02, 2012, 08:46:28 PM
I went to view the film on opening night, here in the UK. The cinema was packed!
what did you think of it eddie?. youre usually a level headed guy, would like to know what you thought.
thanks
rich
Quote from: Promethean Fire on Jun 02, 2012, 09:18:45 PM
Quote from: St_Eddie on Jun 02, 2012, 08:46:28 PM
I went to view the film on opening night, here in the UK. The cinema was packed!
I saw a midnight screening here in the UK. It was a full house. I then went to a 10am showing the following morning. Full house again. :)
Yeah, the midnight screening on opening night was packed out in Chatham. Mostly late teens and a few over 40s (me included). Some cheering at the start - silence thereafter. Theatre emptied in silence.
i live in hull though, its a bit of a strange place for events, example, we had the who on at kc stadium, hardly anybody went, yet they got full house everywhere else in england on that tour lol...
but saying that, usually most big/hyped films are usually full house here on the opening night, but this cinema is pretty new and a small place compared to most of the others, so maybe its just that cinema thats not too popular.
i dont go to cinema often, so its hard to judge too much.
thanks
rich
Quote from: ucdom on Jun 02, 2012, 11:23:46 PM
Yeah, the midnight screening on opening night was packed out in Chatham.
Chatham Kent?
Quote from: Nichs on Jun 03, 2012, 12:15:02 AM
Quote from: ucdom on Jun 02, 2012, 11:23:46 PM
Yeah, the midnight screening on opening night was packed out in Chatham.
Chatham Kent?
Yup, were you there too?
Quote from: ucdom on Jun 03, 2012, 12:17:24 AM
Yup, were you there too?
Nah I live in Maidstone tho but went up the Imax at Greenwich to watch it.
Let's see how the movie goes next week in the US. I think it could reach 40 or 50 million on the first week since I know a lot of people who are hype for it and it seems like there is a lot of hype on the web too. I hope it reach the number one spot and won't lose to Madagascar 3.
well, let me save some of you 3-4 hours of your life...first some context. Alien was one of the first 'formative' movies I ever saw, it blew me away. So I have been waiting with breathless excitement for Prometheus, which I was on Friday on its release...and the stories are right..it is no Alien, in fact it is not even Avatar, it is actually right up there with Phantom Menace.
If you really need to see it then go, otherwise save 3-4 hours of your life and do the washing up instead.
Thanks for that deep and insightful critique.
No doubt potential viewers of Prometheus are selling their tickets as we speak. ::)
Folks - just see it. It's the only way to be sure. :)
Quote from: JonesTheCat on Jun 03, 2012, 08:32:27 AM
Folks - just see it. It's the only way to be sure. :)
I would suggest this. I still can't get the opening out of my head. It was stunning.
Quote from: mikehunt on Jun 03, 2012, 08:28:13 AM
well, let me save some of you 3-4 hours of your life...first some context. Alien was one of the first 'formative' movies I ever saw, it blew me away. So I have been waiting with breathless excitement for Prometheus, which I was on Friday on its release...and the stories are right..it is no Alien, in fact it is not even Avatar, it is actually right up there with Phantom Menace.
If you really need to see it then go, otherwise save 3-4 hours of your life and do the washing up instead.
LOL. Post #1, and what a contribution!
Reading other reviews a lot of poeple have said that it asked them many questions, well, the only questions I had in my head were, 'why has art forsaken cinema'? Why? Can't art make money in cinema?
And, why did I leave a packed BFI Waterloo cinema in almost total silence, is it that the shattering of dreams creates no sound?
To be fair to Ridley, he did tell us it was no Alien, but this, Ridley THIS, really? Is this what you want to be remembered for, did you neeed the money that badly?
Quote from: mikehunt on Jun 03, 2012, 10:55:19 AM
Reading other reviews a lot of poeple have said that it asked them many questions, well, the only questions I had in my head were, 'why has art forsaken cinema'? Why? Can't art make money in cinema?
And, why did I leave a packed BFI Waterloo cinema in almost total silence, is it that the shattering of dreams creates no sound?
To be fair to Ridley, he did tell us it was no Alien, but this, Ridley THIS, really? Is this what you want to be remembered for, did you neeed the money that badly?
We all await
your next movie masterpiece with anticipation!
In terms of "art", I prefer the opinions of reviewers I respect, such as Drew McWeeny:
QuoteI am still trying to process the almost preposterous degree of artistry that is on display in every frame of "Prometheus," and I guess I wish the script had engaged me to the same degree.
In terms of "art", I prefer the opinions of reviewers I respect, such as Drew McWeeny:
QuoteI am still trying to process the almost preposterous degree of artistry that is on display in every frame of "Prometheus," and I guess I wish the script had engaged me to the same degree.
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...and some people think Damien Hirst is a genius, well go and see it and tell me it can be mentioned in the same breath as Alien.
Quote from: zoidy on Jun 03, 2012, 11:30:36 AM
Quote from: mikehunt on Jun 03, 2012, 10:55:19 AM
Reading other reviews a lot of poeple have said that it asked them many questions, well, the only questions I had in my head were, 'why has art forsaken cinema'? Why? Can't art make money in cinema?
And, why did I leave a packed BFI Waterloo cinema in almost total silence, is it that the shattering of dreams creates no sound?
To be fair to Ridley, he did tell us it was no Alien, but this, Ridley THIS, really? Is this what you want to be remembered for, did you neeed the money that badly?
We all await your next movie masterpiece with anticipation!
In terms of "art", I prefer the opinions of reviewers I respect, such as Drew McWeeny:
QuoteI am still trying to process the almost preposterous degree of artistry that is on display in every frame of "Prometheus," and I guess I wish the script had engaged me to the same degree.
Oh come on. You don't have to be a film maker to be able to appreciate or criticise (in a positive or negative sense) a movie.
And the universality of Art comes from its very subjectivity. I can appreciate a picture, a piece of music or a film for myself without waiting for a critic to tell me what I should think. Do you think there is an objective value to a piece of art that
only a critic can divine and inform you about??
I'm really getting sick and tired with the backlash against people who have seen the film and formed a negative opinion, calling people whining fanboys and so on.
We are all different, we will all form different opinions. Some of us will disagree.
Quote from: ucdom on Jun 03, 2012, 11:39:25 AMI'm really getting sick and tired with the backlash against people who have seen the film and formed a negative opinion, calling people whining fanboys and so on.
There certainly is a small pack of assholes romping about dismissing anyone who didn't like the film as a whining fan. Where did they come from? Are they FOX thugs? ;)
I think there are people who blindly and obsessively follow certain movie styles as a form of life validation exercise and they need to criticise anyone who tells them that the object of their affections may in fact be flawed...but never mind them.
The fact remains that this film in particular is complete twaddle. In fact to call it twaddle is to over rate IT and under rate twaddle.
I expect it is pretty safe to assume that everyone on this forum will go and see it as soon as they can, despite any review, so we will all know where the dust will setlle. Some people, particulry the Phntom Menace types will love this movie, but any one expecting a dark, tortured, elegant film full of ground breaking thought, needs to swiftly move along and re-align their expectations before seeing this film.
People laughed at me when i said a few months ago that i was disappointed to see that the space jockeys were likely to just be big bald guys, and the people in the film just become zombie-esq from inection. Wish i was wrong but turns out i was right, sorry but Prometheus is just 1 big let down. Kinda hope they just stop with alien and predator franchises now. Theyre just killing the originals. Shame. Im just going to ignore this film and stick with the memories from original alien with the mystery behind what the spacejockey was...some other strange alien being... not just a big white dude playing with spunk in a jar.
Quote from: SHREK on Jun 03, 2012, 12:02:04 PM
a big white dude playing with spunk in a jar.
You must have weird spunk mate ;D
Ive been hyping up this film/movie for the past few years. Every day I read a bit on the forums. I was so excitited to see the film. I did have expectations and were they met? Yes and no.
My friend who is no big sci/fi fan actually said ' I was fully engrossed throughout as it had so much going on.' So there we have it is an engrossing film, a blockbuster. I don't disagree with that. It was a fully entertaining film.
There were elements of it that were a bit clunky.
1) The script was a bit all over the place in parts
2) Parts of it didn't make sense
3) More questions than answers
4) It wasn't long enough (but maybe this was to keep the flow going throughout the film)
5) I felt a bit empty after the film - maybe due to the open ended ending. Probably for more sequels.
6) Pretty much the entire cinema audience left in silence. Through shock?
7) The ending was a bit cliché. Bit like those crappy teen slasher endings.
Basically it was an excellent film, certainly one of the best Ive seen in a few years. I can't compare it to 'the avengers' as it was a different type of film. Me personally I am biased towards Prometheus and quite rightly so.
It will do well in the box office I think. It was very visual, the space jockey worked suprisingly well considering.
I have come to the conclusion that Dan O'Bannon's influence on Alien must have been quite a bit greater than usually acknowledged!
And back to Box Office News, per Exhibitor Relations...
"Continuing a growing trend, "Prometheus" launched internationally before domestic, and landed with $35 million in 15 markets on 4,695 screens. Top markets include: Russia - $11.1M, UK - $9.9M – FRANCE - $7M. Ridley Scott's sci-fi beast will attack another 35 territories next weekend for a total of over 8,000 screens worldwide—5,500+ of those expected to be in 3D"
Quote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Jun 02, 2012, 11:17:22 PM
Quote from: St_Eddie on Jun 02, 2012, 08:46:28 PM
I went to view the film on opening night, here in the UK. The cinema was packed!
what did you think of it eddie?. youre usually a level headed guy, would like to know what you thought.
thanks
rich
I've watched it twice now and I definitely like it. The first viewing was a bit too much to take in all at once but watching it again on IMAX, confirmed for me that I really do like it. Visually the film is stunning and Fassbender's performance is exceptional. There are so many scenes peppered throughout the film that I adore.
Of course, it's not a classic film (unlike 'Alien') and there are definite issues with the script (plot holes, some dodgy dialogue and an uneven tone). Also, the editing is really quite poor; just as I was starting to become gripped by certain events, the scene would cut to a different set of characters!
I hope for an alternate cut to be released at some point but as it stands, this is the first "Alien" film that I've enjoyed since 'Alien 3' and I'm happy to count it as being a part of (my personal) continuity, unlike 'Alien: Resurrection' and those god awful 'AVP' abominations.
I won't say any more on the subject at the moment because I'll be posting a detailed YouTube review within the next few days, suffice to say; I rate the film 7/10 stars.
Eddie you just pretty much summed up my own experience with the film. I saw it again today and have been working on the script for a 5-10 minute youtube review since.
Nothing too new, but a full roundup of overseas action for the weekend from Box Office Mojo...
http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3457&p=.htm (http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3457&p=.htm)
Quote from: St_Eddie on Jun 03, 2012, 06:14:52 PMI won't say any more on the subject at the moment because I'll be posting a detailed YouTube review within the next few days, suffice to say; I rate the film 7/10 stars.
Thanks for that Eddie - decent fan feedback is always encouraging. Make sure you link us the video review! :)
Well done prometheus I will be adding my 18 dollars on thursday, I might watch it 3 times, I hope you beat harry potter and reach 1 billion
I'll be going at least 3 times this weekend.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Jun 05, 2012, 03:53:34 AM
I'll be going at least 3 times this weekend.
*Bro-fist* At least twice for me, once by myself, once with a buddy, then, maybe if I can talk my dad into going I'll go for a third. Hoping does at least 55-60 million this weekend, but that might be a long shot.
Only once for me.
Per Exhibitor Relations twitter feed: "On Monday, PROMETHEUS scored another $5M. Total is now $40M."
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Here are some great sites to check for tracking the domestic launch this weekend. Most will also list there projections either tomorrow or early Friday. I'll be sure to post 'em as i see 'em, but if you want to check them all out yourself, here you go:
http://www.boxoffice.com/ (http://www.boxoffice.com/)
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/ (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/) (Twitter: @boxofficemojo)
http://www.boxofficeprophets.com/ (http://www.boxofficeprophets.com/)
http://www.ercboxoffice.com/ (http://www.ercboxoffice.com/) (Twitter: @ERCboxoffice)
http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/ (http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/)
There are of course other sites, but these are 5 solid options. ERC likes to beat all others to the bunch. Deadline Hollywood typically gives 6 updates over the course of the weekend. 2 a day, 1 in the AM, 1 in the PM.
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Not that anyone's paying attention, but per Exhibitor Relations: "Fox's PROMETHEUS has already landed $46,073,959 in limited Int'l release. Fire up the sequel, this pic is gonna be epic!!"
$46 mil! Niiiice
I'm a boxofficemojo guy. I check there frequently. So, if I somehow see something before, Spidey, I'll lend a hand. :)
So nervous about opening weekend....I feel like it's my film opening this weekend.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Jun 07, 2012, 02:14:04 AM
So nervous about opening weekend....I feel like it's my film opening this weekend.
:laugh: I feel the same way kinda. I've been excited for a couple movies this year, but its been quite awhile since I said a film means something personal to me, and Prometheus means something personal to me. If my buddies say "Wow, that sucked" its like they're telling me something of mine sucked.
I will watch it at least 4 times :)
I will be piss if the movie loses to Madagascar 3. I do hope the movie does reach $60 million this weekend.
I'll be seeing it at least twice this weekend...likely with different groups of people.
I just hope it beats Mad3 and makes over $50m.
Frame of reference:
The first AVP opened to 38 million in 2003 = 48 million in adjusted dollars
While that film did have the particular pair of featuring, well, Aliens versus Predators, Prometheus certainly has a broader appeal. Also, despite several negative reviews, there's also an overwhelming amount of positive press. The advertising campaign has been in high gear for weeks, especially if you've been watching the NBA finals. It also features Ridley's return to Sci-Fi, and a legit cast.
Basically, if it doesn't open to at least 48 million, it's a disaster...
Anyway, it's out of the "box office bomb" territory :)
Quote from: Ooze on First on Jun 07, 2012, 07:25:45 AM
I just hope it beats Mad3
Not gonna happen. Them Madagascar films are monsters, kids and families are in love with that franchise.
Yeah, it was never going to beat a family blockbuster. I do think it'll do decent business.
Box Office predicts an opening weekend of $51 million
Exhibitor Relations predicts an opening weekend of $57 million
Box Office Guru predicts an opening weekend of $47 million
All predicted it to beat Madagascar by $2 million ($49, $55, $45)
Geez, that kinda seems all over the place. $47-$57 million. :-\ I figured they would be closer together.
It's only a $10 million range. Not too wide in my opinion. Plus, in my estimation, Prometheus is likely a hard film to track. Though it carries massive amount of hype, the built in fan base is only so large. It's a matter of accurately guessing how much interest the general public has in it, beyond us nutty Alien aficionados :laugh:
Quote from: Spidey3121 on Jun 07, 2012, 11:25:10 PM
It's only a $10 million range. Not too wide in my opinion. Plus, in my estimation, Prometheus is likely a hard film to track. Though it carries massive amount of hype, the built in fan base is only so large. It's a matter of accurately guessing how much interest the general public has in it, beyond us nutty Alien aficionados :laugh:
And, I haven't study many box office tracks, either. You probably right.
Yeah, we is a bit nutty. :laugh:
Box Office Mojo predicts a $55.5 million first place opening
So that's $47, $51, $55.5 and $57 million...
I'm hoping for at least 100 million...I guess that's way too much.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Jun 08, 2012, 01:43:42 AM
I'm hoping for at least 100 million...I guess that's way too much.
Oh ya wishing a lil to hard there, at most I see it making on opening weekend is maybe 60 million(its only opening in 3300 locations in the US)
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Jun 08, 2012, 01:43:42 AM
I'm hoping for at least 100 million...I guess that's way too much.
No R-rated movie has ever opened up to $100 million.
Box Office Prophets are being much more ambitious with their prediction. They're pegging it for a $67-$69 million opening weekend. I'd definitely love it to open that big, though i'm not entirely certain that's realistic. Such an opening would be the 5th highest for a R rating film
Any word on how much the film made on midnight showings?
I saw Prometheus at the first after-work showing at my local cinema, and there was no more than a dozen people in there (for comparison, I got to the Titanic 3D showing mid-week, mid-afternoon nearly a week after release at the same cinema, and the place was PACKED). I don't think we have an Avengers phenomenon here.
In my opinion the estimates around the $50m mark are probably on the money.
No word on midnight showings yet, though i'm very much on the lookout. If you can't tell based on my frequent updates, i'm kind of obsessed with tracking box office.
There is this though -> " As of late Thursday, movie-ticket service Fandango reported that "Prometheus" led the weekend's new releases with 51 percent of the day's ticket sales." Of course that's just a percentage, so how many actual tickets that equates to is unknown.
Quote from: Vertigo on Jun 08, 2012, 03:52:00 PM
I saw Prometheus at the first after-work showing at my local cinema, and there was no more than a dozen people in there (for comparison, I got to the Titanic 3D showing mid-week, mid-afternoon nearly a week after release at the same cinema, and the place was PACKED). I don't think we have an Avengers phenomenon here.
In my opinion the estimates around the $50m mark are probably on the money.
There's no way
Prometheus will do
Titantic type money... and it won't do
Avengers money. But it's a big hit, and the financials will get a sequel green lit... almost certainly (and Ridley wants to do it).
Here we go!!
http://www.deadline.com/2012/06/prometheus-box-office-weekend-fox/ (http://www.deadline.com/2012/06/prometheus-box-office-weekend-fox/)
$3.561 million in midnight box office w/ $1.03 coming from IMAX Theaters
NOTE: Keep checking Deadline. As i mentioned on the other page, they typically give 5 or 6 updates over the course of the weekend
Deadline have just announced that Prometheus has made $51 million in the 15 foreign territories it has opened in so far.
Quote from: Darth Vile on Jun 08, 2012, 05:23:04 PM
Quote from: Vertigo on Jun 08, 2012, 03:52:00 PM
I saw Prometheus at the first after-work showing at my local cinema, and there was no more than a dozen people in there (for comparison, I got to the Titanic 3D showing mid-week, mid-afternoon nearly a week after release at the same cinema, and the place was PACKED). I don't think we have an Avengers phenomenon here.
In my opinion the estimates around the $50m mark are probably on the money.
There's no way Prometheus will do Titantic type money... and it won't do Avengers money. But it's a big hit, and the financials will get a sequel green lit... almost certainly (and Ridley wants to do it).
I'm talking about the Titanic
re-release earlier this year - that one finished its run with $57m US (and the rather more impressive figure of $343m worldwide).
Quote from: Darth Vile on Jun 08, 2012, 05:23:04 PM
There's no way Prometheus will do Titantic type money... and it won't do Avengers money. But it's a big hit, and the financials will get a sequel green lit... almost certainly (and Ridley wants to do it).
I bet anything Ridley won't do it. He
wants to do it, but then he
wants to do 15 other things all at once as well. He's currently got the new Blade Runner being prepped, the new Cormac McCarthy script ready to shoot, and a biopic of Gertrude Bell under development.
I hope he just says "f**k it. I'll give the people what they want. Prometheus 2&3 it is, that's all I'm doing." That would be awesome.
Quote from: Cvalda on Jun 08, 2012, 10:23:16 PM
Quote from: Darth Vile on Jun 08, 2012, 05:23:04 PM
There's no way Prometheus will do Titantic type money... and it won't do Avengers money. But it's a big hit, and the financials will get a sequel green lit... almost certainly (and Ridley wants to do it).
I bet anything Ridley won't do it. He wants to do it, but then he wants to do 15 other things all at once as well. He's currently got the new Blade Runner being prepped, the new Cormac McCarthy script ready to shoot, and a biopic of Gertrude Bell under development.
That's true... what I meant to say is that a bet a sequel is Ridley's if he wants it... unlike
Aliens. I'd assume that he'd get that in a contract for signing up to the first one if it makes over x amount of ££$$
Quote from: Cvalda on Jun 08, 2012, 10:23:16 PM
I bet anything Ridley won't do it. He wants to do it, but then he wants to do 15 other things all at once as well. He's currently got the new Blade Runner being prepped, the new Cormac McCarthy script ready to shoot, and a biopic of Gertrude Bell under development.
Pretty much this. I would love for Ridley to direct a sequel to 'Prometheus' but he's constantly changing direction with the projects he pursues. Also, he's no spring chicken any more! :'(
Yet, the sci-fi he just recently directed, nobody likes. lol.
give Prometheus II or PARADISE to JAmes Cameron hes more logical in his senses and him going back to R rated sci fi...GASP even better than ridley.
Quote from: AsapJockey on Jun 08, 2012, 11:26:06 PM
give Prometheus II or PARADISE to JAmes Cameron hes more logical in his senses and him going back to R rated sci fi...GASP even better than ridley.
He'd turn it into a pure Run-and-Gun movie involving marines. I don't think he has it in him to do a 'thinking' movie.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Jun 08, 2012, 11:23:03 PM
Yet, the sci-fi he just recently directed, nobody likes. lol.
Please don't speak for me; I loved it.
Quote from: The Hyena on Jun 08, 2012, 11:33:39 PM
Quote from: AsapJockey on Jun 08, 2012, 11:26:06 PM
give Prometheus II or PARADISE to JAmes Cameron hes more logical in his senses and him going back to R rated sci fi...GASP even better than ridley.
He'd turn it into a pure Run-and-Gun movie involving marines. I don't think he has it in him to do a 'thinking' movie.
Amen Brother, Amen.
$68m weekend?
That is AMAZING for a film nobody thought was good - allegedly.
Sorry, I've just seen it again in DBOX mode - it gets better, I see the nuances, my own excitement is tempered, and I'm beginning to understand more of the script choices.
I still think there could have been more tension. I still think the ending it rushed. I still think Vickers is a droid and will return in the sequel....which is now pretty much guaranteed with or without Scott.
...fanboy trolling is largely ignored by adults. And thankgod - it was really just getting too much. Deadline's predictions are just getting better and better.
http://www.deadline.com/2012/06/prometheus-box-office-weekend-fox/ (http://www.deadline.com/2012/06/prometheus-box-office-weekend-fox/)
Trust me, I had reservations after the first viewing - but now after the 4th, while I admit there are gaping holes and inconsistencies and a much darker movie somewhere on the cutting room floor...it's still a great movie.
I'm just listening to the new UK radio ad now - profession critics, literate, intelligent men in the major press have given it enough credible praise that it should enjoy a sustained healthy run for a couple of months. These are the voices the movie going public listen to in times of recession. Not bitchy keyboard warriors. Rational people can see them a mile off now and they're getting tedious with overreaction and immature responses. Recent Summer blockbusters such as Transformers or Twilight haven't enjoyed the same level of critical praise. I'm not saying Prometheus will outdo these, but for a franchise that was pretty much dead, Scott (and yes, Lindelof grudgingly) has succeeded in resurrecting the Xeno-mythology in the most intelligent way.
We're going to get more, and we should be excited, the Giger/O'Bannon myth will be perpetuated for another decade in film. Not only this, I feel the franchise will try to out-do itself with spectacle. These movies, as with the new Avatar films, will become platforms for new effects technology.
I'm looking forward to seeing the Engineer's world - and who their gods are too.
Quote from: St_Eddie on Jun 08, 2012, 11:20:40 PM
Quote from: Cvalda on Jun 08, 2012, 10:23:16 PM
I bet anything Ridley won't do it. He wants to do it, but then he wants to do 15 other things all at once as well. He's currently got the new Blade Runner being prepped, the new Cormac McCarthy script ready to shoot, and a biopic of Gertrude Bell under development.
Pretty much this. I would love for Ridley to direct a sequel to 'Prometheus' but he's constantly changing direction with the projects he pursues. Also, he's no spring chicken any more! :'(
He would do it. I'm absolutely convinced. If Fox wants a sequel, he will make it. This isn't the same case as BS like Monopoly or whatever he was attached to before that may have never actually been funded. Ridley seems a bit different now. He's going to do a Blade Runner sequel for cripe's sake. He knows these are the two franchises people care about in his oeuvre at this point. He's coming back home in some regard I think.
You want your thread to be taken seriously and your first two words are "fanboy trolling?" Okay...
I agree with you, and I'm truly excited. Love the film to death. I hope we get a definitive cut soon though.
Quote from: Max Powers on Jun 09, 2012, 12:13:43 AM
You want your thread to be taken seriously and your first two words are "fanboy trolling?" Okay...
Personally I've found the constructive criticism limited, in contrast to the prevalence of "it's shit" or "I f*cking hate Ridley Scott" or "if Lindelof is reading this I'm going to kill you, you f*cker" that has clogged up Twitter and forums. Thankfully AVPGalaxy has a few intelligent contributors, but even these forums have been a platform for relentless negativity. I initially posted my frustrations quite vociferously, but I never wished ill on Scott. I tried to rationalise why editing choices were made, how the cinema market dictated this, how executive producers (Lindelof) probably advised the final composition.
Per Deadline: "Rival studios now say Prometheus is looking to open with a huge $26M Friday and $68M weekend. That's rare indeed for an R-rated pic. But Fox, the studio that specializes in lowering expectations, disputes those numbers. "There is no mathematical scenario I know of that we hit $68M. Even at $26M for today, we get to $66.5M – and there is nothing on this green earth that shows us hitting $26M today," a Fox exec huffed at me. "I could see us doing $22M today which would likely get us to $56M." No matter, a great result."
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Looks like a $21 million Friday w/ a projected weekend total of $55 million
http://www.deadline.com/2012/06/prometheus-box-office-weekend-fox/ (http://www.deadline.com/2012/06/prometheus-box-office-weekend-fox/)
Quote from: Game_Over_Man on Jun 09, 2012, 12:23:20 AM
Quote from: Max Powers on Jun 09, 2012, 12:13:43 AM
You want your thread to be taken seriously and your first two words are "fanboy trolling?" Okay...
Personally I've found the constructive criticism limited, in contrast to the prevalence of "it's shit" or "I f*cking hate Ridley Scott" or "if Lindelof is reading this I'm going to kill you, you f*cker" that has clogged up Twitter and forums. Thankfully AVPGalaxy has a few intelligent contributors, but even these forums have been a platform for relentless negativity. I initially posted my frustrations quite vociferously, but I never wished ill on Scott. I tried to rationalise why editing choices were made, how the cinema market dictated this, how executive producers (Lindelof) probably advised the final composition.
Some people have such high standards they will never be pleased. For some people, they would have preferred Alien being the only film. When your expectations are that ridiculous, you go into nitpick I guess. Or if you will only be pleased with something that recycles Alien instead of being an original film, you will also be dissapointed.
I don't get any of the complaints either. I was awestruck during the entire film and remained glued to my seat for the entire run time. With an 87 percent audience fresh rating, this isn't exactly a film that has divided audiences. The film was jam packed with stuff going on, but I enjoyed all of it. After crap like Transformers and the like I never expected to see such a hardcore scifi film in theaters like this. It's really amazing what was accomplished here. Really looking forward to an alternate cut, sequel, or anything else we have to look forward to.
IMDB is actually shocking when it comes to "fanboy trolling" as you put it. It seems like for every genuine poster there are 3 trolls who possibly haven't seen the movie trying to get folk mad.
And no, I'm not saying all negative reviews are bad, that's absurd, but the amount of "LINDCOCK LOLOLOL" and "soft R!!!!!" is just scary.
Also, if anyone reading this had ever actually unironically used "Lindcock" then just stop. It wasn't funny the first time we heard it and repeating isn't gonna make it any funnier. Calling the Strauses names worked because they were on the forum and heard you.
Quote from: Cybercat on Jun 09, 2012, 12:30:56 AM
Some people have such high standards they will never be pleased. For some people, they would have preferred Alien being the only film. When your expectations are that ridiculous, you go into nitpick I guess. Or if you will only be pleased with something that recycles Alien instead of being an original film, you will also be dissapointed.
I don't get any of the complaints either.
Let's not generalized the people that are not happy with the film.
The film has a number of tremendous logic gaps in character actions without question. You can ignore them, which is fine, but dont treat people who dont like the film like they are going out of their way to pull something because all the iffy stuff is clearly there on the surface.
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Quote from: DaddyYautja on Jun 09, 2012, 12:43:21 AM
Quote from: Cybercat on Jun 09, 2012, 12:30:56 AM
Some people have such high standards they will never be pleased. For some people, they would have preferred Alien being the only film. When your expectations are that ridiculous, you go into nitpick I guess. Or if you will only be pleased with something that recycles Alien instead of being an original film, you will also be dissapointed.
I don't get any of the complaints either.
Let's not generalized the people that are not happy with the film.
The film has a number of tremendous logic gaps in character actions without question. You can ignore them, which is fine, but dont treat people who dont like they are going out of their way to pull something because all the iffy stuff clearly there on the surface.
I don't ignore them. Ignoring them would mean it's a fact they exist, which isn't true. This is your opinion, and something some hardcore fans have trouble understanding. I don't recall any "logical gaps in character actions" from watching the film. The only thing I will agree with is the film seems a bit tight in the last half, but I laud Ridley Scott for managing to pull off everything he did in the two hour run time of this cut.
I do think though some people have an inclination to nitpick. Nitpicking means you begin to lose the forest for the trees. I could also nitpick Alien and Aliens to death, but I'm not that dogmatically negative.
I also noticed most of the negative comments so far come from people with Predator avatars. Just an observation. lol
Quote from: Cybercat on Jun 09, 2012, 12:52:40 AM
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Jun 09, 2012, 12:43:21 AM
Quote from: Cybercat on Jun 09, 2012, 12:30:56 AM
Some people have such high standards they will never be pleased. For some people, they would have preferred Alien being the only film. When your expectations are that ridiculous, you go into nitpick I guess. Or if you will only be pleased with something that recycles Alien instead of being an original film, you will also be dissapointed.
I don't get any of the complaints either.
Let's not generalized the people that are not happy with the film.
The film has a number of tremendous logic gaps in character actions without question. You can ignore them, which is fine, but dont treat people who dont like they are going out of their way to pull something because all the iffy stuff clearly there on the surface.
I do think though some people have an inclination to nitpick. Nitpicking means you begin to lose the forest for the trees. I could also nitpick Alien and Aliens to death, but I'm not that dogmatically negative.
I also noticed most of the negative comments so far come from people with Predator avatars. Just an observation. lol
Lol, yes, good observation. The whole "Is it true Predator can been seen ontop of the Pyramid"-type conversation has really got to stop.
Quote from: Game_Over_Man on Jun 09, 2012, 12:10:02 AM
...fanboy trolling is largely ignored by adults. And thankgod - it was really just getting too much.
it's o.k. man, I went through this when I had the gall to say Avatar* was a terrible movie. Time has gone by, the hype has worn off, many people have woke up and realized, yeah, it was a bad movie. I'm prepared to wait it out on Prometheus.
*I doubt Prometheus is as bad a movie as Avatar.
Quote from: Cybercat on Jun 09, 2012, 12:52:40 AM
I also noticed most of the negative comments so far come from people with Predator avatars. Just an observation. lol
:laugh:
I'm glad that I'm not the only one who notices this! The majority of the time when I strongly disagree with a fellow forum user's opinion, they'll be sporting a 'Predator' avatar.
I'll call it now, Prometheus knocked predators out cold for what they both are. Awesome toy lines. 8)
Prometheus is a success, but it's not a critical success. My money is on no sequel being made.
Quote from: Disendor on Jun 09, 2012, 03:04:58 AM
Prometheus is a success, but it's not a critical success. My money is on no sequel being made.
Most critics liked it. Did you not see Roeper's review. ::) Audiences like it more, it's going to make money. Ridley wants to make a sequel. Get ready for a sequel.
Quote from: Disendor on Jun 09, 2012, 03:04:58 AM
Prometheus is a success, but it's not a critical success. My money is on no sequel being made.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Also gotta add the $50 million from the overseas markets. And that's still growing too.
Quote from: Prime113 on Jun 09, 2012, 03:08:02 AM
Quote from: Disendor on Jun 09, 2012, 03:04:58 AM
Prometheus is a success, but it's not a critical success. My money is on no sequel being made.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
This is the Terminator: Salvation problem again. When the film came out, there was more positive then negative, and a sequel was ordered to be in development. It hasn't happened. Trust me, there won't be a sequel.
Dude, Prometheus has a 74% on RT after 196 reviews. Terminator Salvation has 33% after 260. And, Prometheus had a smaller budget than TS. TS had a $200 million dollar budget, Prometheus had a $130 million dollar budget. TS had a $48 million dollar opening weekend, Prometheus is on track to do over $55 million.
Quote from: Disendor on Jun 09, 2012, 03:12:56 AM
Quote from: Prime113 on Jun 09, 2012, 03:08:02 AM
Quote from: Disendor on Jun 09, 2012, 03:04:58 AM
Prometheus is a success, but it's not a critical success. My money is on no sequel being made.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
This is the Terminator: Salvation problem again. When the film came out, there was more positive then negative, and a sequel was ordered to be in development. It hasn't happened. Trust me, there won't be a sequel.
Really? I thought most people disliked that film?
Quote from: echobbase79 on Jun 09, 2012, 03:16:52 AM
Quote from: Disendor on Jun 09, 2012, 03:12:56 AM
Quote from: Prime113 on Jun 09, 2012, 03:08:02 AM
Quote from: Disendor on Jun 09, 2012, 03:04:58 AM
Prometheus is a success, but it's not a critical success. My money is on no sequel being made.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
This is the Terminator: Salvation problem again. When the film came out, there was more positive then negative, and a sequel was ordered to be in development. It hasn't happened. Trust me, there won't be a sequel.
Really? I thought most people disliked that film?
Yeah, I don't know what he's talking about.
I think there will be a sequel, Ridley won't leave it on the current note, he won't be able to resist. He may use his own money if needs be who knows...OK OK I want a trilogy damn it ;D
He's making a 'Blade Runner' sequel and that was a flop pretty much SO...
Quote from: Hubbs on Jun 09, 2012, 03:20:34 AM
I think there will be a sequel, Ridley won't leave it on the current note, he won't be able to resist. He may use his own money if needs be who knows...OK OK I want a trilogy damn it ;D
Attaway, Hubbs! :D
Quote from: Prime113 on Jun 09, 2012, 03:21:51 AM
Quote from: Hubbs on Jun 09, 2012, 03:20:34 AM
I think there will be a sequel, Ridley won't leave it on the current note, he won't be able to resist. He may use his own money if needs be who knows...OK OK I want a trilogy damn it ;D
Attaway, Hubbs! :D
Damn straight ;D dude I fudging LOVED the film, role on the Bluray please.
Quote from: Disendor on Jun 09, 2012, 03:12:56 AM
Quote from: Prime113 on Jun 09, 2012, 03:08:02 AM
Quote from: Disendor on Jun 09, 2012, 03:04:58 AM
Prometheus is a success, but it's not a critical success. My money is on no sequel being made.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
This is the Terminator: Salvation problem again. When the film came out, there was more positive then negative, and a sequel was ordered to be in development. It hasn't happened. Trust me, there won't be a sequel.
You're bordering on delusional here. Terminator Salvation has a 33 percent on Rotten Tomatoes, and this movie has a 75 with critics and an 87 with the audience. The rights to the Terminator have pretty much been in limbo. The Alien franchise is owned by one big studio. Maybe you should try to stop grasping at straws?
Someone isn't reading RT.....I'd say Prometheus is a resounding critical success.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Jun 09, 2012, 03:38:18 AM
Someone isn't reading RT.....I'd say Prometheus is a resounding critical success.
Yeah, the people that are giving it the thumbs up are really praising it. They just aren't giving it a mild thumbs up writing it off as an enjoyable popcorn movie or something.
As for the the guy saying he's glad he's convinced everyone Avatar is bad, I'll be laughing when the sequel comes out and the Disney theme park attractions open up. I'm sure those are going to "flop," at least in an alternate bizzaro world where Fox also doesn't make sequels to successful movies.
'Avatar' is a cartoon compared to 'Prometheus', Scott is THE man period.
Terminator Salvation actually had a very successful opening weekend (or at least was decent enough) and had decent reviews. In my honest opinion, Prometheus won't receive a sequel simply because the writing -- especially in setting up a sequel -- was incredibly sloppy.
Quote from: Disendor on Jun 09, 2012, 04:10:27 AM
Terminator Salvation actually had a very successful opening weekend (or at least was decent enough) and had decent reviews. In my honest opinion, Prometheus won't receive a sequel simply because the writing -- especially in setting up a sequel -- was incredibly sloppy.
I wish the internet existed when Alien came out. "This ending sucks! What happens to Ripley? Does she return to Earth, die in space? I want to know!!! Wahhhhh! I paid for this one film, where's my real ending!" Absolutely loved the ending to this movie. Nothing sloppy about it or the writing.
Quote from: Disendor on Jun 09, 2012, 04:10:27 AM
Terminator Salvation actually had a very successful opening weekend (or at least was decent enough) and had decent reviews. In my honest opinion, Prometheus won't receive a sequel simply because the writing -- especially in setting up a sequel -- was incredibly sloppy.
Can't really argue with that one. I thought the script was pretty sloppy.
Disendor, do your homework. Do you know how many shitty and poorly written films have gotten sequels???????
What the hell is with people saying it's poorly written? I thoroughly enjoyed the movie. At no point in the film, did my wife or myself feel that there were any " blatant plot holes" or sloppy writing.
Bring on the sequel baby!
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Jun 09, 2012, 04:17:25 AM
Disendor, do your homework. Do you know how many shitty and poorly written films have gotten sequels???????
Name a few. Outside of 'hopeful' success.
Quote from: Disendor on Jun 09, 2012, 04:44:11 AM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Jun 09, 2012, 04:17:25 AM
Disendor, do your homework. Do you know how many shitty and poorly written films have gotten sequels???????
Name a few. Outside of 'hopeful' success.
methinks a troll be on the loose!
Just because he thinks the movie was badly written doesn't make him a troll. Some seem to like the ambiguous nature of the script while others don't. That's fair in my opinion.
Quote from: G8RSG1 on Jun 09, 2012, 04:45:32 AM
Quote from: Disendor on Jun 09, 2012, 04:44:11 AM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Jun 09, 2012, 04:17:25 AM
Disendor, do your homework. Do you know how many shitty and poorly written films have gotten sequels???????
Name a few. Outside of 'hopeful' success.
methinks a troll be on the loose!
That's incredibly ignorant. Am I not allowed to express my opinion? I simply feel that despite the box-office success we will not see a sequel or at least one with Ridley or Damon back.
I'm glad this makes money. Hurray for science fictions and R-Rated!! Great job by FOX with their promotions and virals. Now I want my f**king sequel done right this time around.
Looks like my prediction about this film somehow splitting fandom down the middle, has proven correct...
I just wish more people on both sides of the debate would respect one another more. Those using generalisations to label critics with are just as bad as the other way around.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Jun 09, 2012, 05:18:10 AM
Looks like my prediction about this film somehow splitting fandom down the middle, has proven correct...
I just wish more people on both sides of the debate would respect one another more. Those using generalisations to label critics with are just as bad as the other way around.
I loved the movie.
But I can understand why some people dont.
It really depends on what youre expecting when you go in IMO.
I also think movies that can split their own fanbases usually tend to be great movies in the long run.
Ill take a strong reaction either way over a meh or it was ok.
The cold, hard facts are the audience loves it. Even hardened geeks I went with loved it, expecting to laugh it off. And I pretty much really liked it too. And it's going to do real well.
I was shocked by the reception here (in my city). I thought this was just going to be a mostly cult thing I'd have to defend for the next 15 years. That is not a problem anymore.
It's not a perfect, black diamond of a movie like Alien, no, but it's pretty damn good. It's easily Ridley Scott's best movie of the last decade other than Kingdom of Heaven, and probably one of 3 of his best films in the last 20 - when did Thelma & Louise come out? It's bursting with ideas and subtext and splendor and it's going to get a sequel.
Damn! I was really hoping for that $68 million dollar opening weekend. :laugh: That pretty much would have sealed a sequel in.
No way should they be allowed to make a sequel, Boremetheus, alreday sullies the reputation of Alien and of course Scott in general. Any more will certainly take us past Phantom Mencae territory and straight into Attack of the Clones.
Of course, it seems to be making plenty of money regardless its manifest weaknesses, so maybe they will try it on again and some people will sit theer hoping the next one will be better and pay to go and see it....but it won't be better, the talent just isnt there any more.
$68 million was a pipe dream but $55+ will still turn the right heads. Couple that with the $51 mil it has already made on the foriegn circuit and then you've also with this weekends foreign tally too you've got to be looking at about $140-$150 WW
55 million is FANTASTIC for an opening weekend.
According to Box Office Mojo, Prometheus edged out Madagascar 3 in the opening day by $1m (21.4m > 20.4m).
Quote from: mikehunt on Jun 09, 2012, 09:41:40 AM
No way should they be allowed to make a sequel, Boremetheus, alreday sullies the reputation of Alien and of course Scott in general. Any more will certainly take us past Phantom Mencae territory and straight into Attack of the Clones.
Of course, it seems to be making plenty of money regardless its manifest weaknesses, so maybe they will try it on again and some people will sit theer hoping the next one will be better and pay to go and see it....but it won't be better, the talent just isnt there any more.
Well, you certainly are a hunt.
Quote from: BLAIN on Jun 09, 2012, 03:32:15 PM
Quote from: mikehunt on Jun 09, 2012, 09:41:40 AM
No way should they be allowed to make a sequel, Boremetheus, alreday sullies the reputation of Alien and of course Scott in general. Any more will certainly take us past Phantom Mencae territory and straight into Attack of the Clones.
Of course, it seems to be making plenty of money regardless its manifest weaknesses, so maybe they will try it on again and some people will sit theer hoping the next one will be better and pay to go and see it....but it won't be better, the talent just isnt there any more.
Well, you certainly are a hunt.
I'd go even further as to spell it properly.
WAAA I DON'T LIKE IT SO NO ONE SHOULD GET A SEQUEL!
I am hoping that the box office will mean an alternate cut. I did enjoy the movie, but the shitty editing and clunky plot transitions brought it down a couple of pegs.
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Jun 09, 2012, 03:29:38 PM
According to Box Office Mojo, Prometheus edged out Madagascar 3 in the opening day by $1m (21.4m > 20.4m).
In addition, just look at the fact that Prometheus is showing in far fewer cinemas than Mad3.
The per-theater-avg is much higher. Prom: $6300, Mad3: $4800
I wonder what the long term prediction is based off those numbers? 150 million? 200 million?
Quote from: mikehunt on Jun 09, 2012, 09:41:40 AM
No way should they be allowed to make a sequel, Boremetheus, alreday sullies the reputation of Alien and of course Scott in general. Any more will certainly take us past Phantom Mencae territory and straight into Attack of the Clones.
Of course, it seems to be making plenty of money regardless its manifest weaknesses, so maybe they will try it on again and some people will sit theer hoping the next one will be better and pay to go and see it....but it won't be better, the talent just isnt there any more.
Umm...it beat Mad3. Thats pretty big for a sci-fi movie like Prometheus. Its a sign that it will no doubt get a sequel and that people as a whole love the movie.
Alien wasn't exactly a perfect movie anyway. Far from it.
Quote from: The Hyena on Jun 09, 2012, 07:05:37 PM
Alien wasn't exactly a perfect movie anyway. Far from it.
It comes pretty goddamn close in my opinion.
Quote from: Vertigo on Jun 09, 2012, 10:05:48 PM
Quote from: The Hyena on Jun 09, 2012, 07:05:37 PM
Alien wasn't exactly a perfect movie anyway. Far from it.
It comes pretty goddamn close in my opinion.
ONLY in retrospect.
Quote from: The Hyena on Jun 09, 2012, 07:05:37 PM
Alien wasn't exactly a perfect movie anyway. Far from it.
I have heard this being said and it is not an argument for
Prometheus at all. Compared to
Prometheus, which is a clusterf**k of bad writing and editing IMHO,
Alien is pretty well flawless.
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Jun 10, 2012, 12:08:21 AM
Quote from: The Hyena on Jun 09, 2012, 07:05:37 PM
Alien wasn't exactly a perfect movie anyway. Far from it.
I have heard this being said and it is not an argument for Prometheus at all. Compared to Prometheus, which is a clusterf**k of bad writing and editing IMHO, Alien is pretty well flawless.
And yet at its time, Alien while still a good movie, was pretty mixed. Prometheus is the same way.
My impression has always been that Alien got some bad reviews because of what it was, not because it was a badly written film. Prometheus seems to be getting the opposite treatment; it's praised for being a big boned sci-fi, but canned for having a bad screenplay.
I don't think you can recover from that, no matter how much retrospect you have. IMO Promeheus won't become a classic because it has objective flaws, whereas Alien didn't.
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Jun 10, 2012, 12:35:56 AM
My impression has always been that Alien got some bad reviews because of what it was, not because it was a badly written film. Prometheus seems to be getting the opposite treatment; it's praised for being a big boned sci-fi, but canned for having a bad screenplay.
I don't think you can recover from that, no matter how much retrospect you have. IMO Promeheus won't become a classic because it has objective flaws, whereas Alien didn't.
Well said.
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Jun 10, 2012, 12:35:56 AM
My impression has always been that Alien got some bad reviews because of what it was, not because it was a badly written film. Prometheus seems to be getting the opposite treatment; it's praised for being a big boned sci-fi, but canned for having a bad screenplay.
I don't think you can recover from that, no matter how much retrospect you have. IMO Promeheus won't become a classic because it has objective flaws, whereas Alien didn't.
^ This.
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Jun 10, 2012, 12:35:56 AM
My impression has always been that Alien got some bad reviews because of what it was, not because it was a badly written film. Prometheus seems to be getting the opposite treatment; it's praised for being a big boned sci-fi, but canned for having a bad screenplay.
I don't think you can recover from that, no matter how much retrospect you have. IMO Promeheus won't become a classic because it has objective flaws, whereas Alien didn't.
Are you arguing Alien didn't have flaws?
Quote from: The Hyena on Jun 10, 2012, 12:44:52 AM
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Jun 10, 2012, 12:35:56 AM
My impression has always been that Alien got some bad reviews because of what it was, not because it was a badly written film. Prometheus seems to be getting the opposite treatment; it's praised for being a big boned sci-fi, but canned for having a bad screenplay.
I don't think you can recover from that, no matter how much retrospect you have. IMO Promeheus won't become a classic because it has objective flaws, whereas Alien didn't.
Are you arguing Alien didn't have flaws?
I won't go there, I am sure the flaws/not-flaws of
Alien have been discussed ad-nauseum elsewhere on the site. I would argue though that it has none of the blatant flaws of screenplaly that
Prometheus does.
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Quote from: The Hyena on Jun 10, 2012, 12:44:52 AM
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Jun 10, 2012, 12:35:56 AM
My impression has always been that Alien got some bad reviews because of what it was, not because it was a badly written film. Prometheus seems to be getting the opposite treatment; it's praised for being a big boned sci-fi, but canned for having a bad screenplay.
I don't think you can recover from that, no matter how much retrospect you have. IMO Promeheus won't become a classic because it has objective flaws, whereas Alien didn't.
Are you arguing Alien didn't have flaws?
I won't go there, I am sure the flaws/not-flaws of Alien have been discussed ad-nauseum elsewhere on the site. I would argue though that it has none of the blatant flaws of screenplaly that Prometheus does.
I dunno.
Maybe something about a Giant Chair however... ;)
The reality is that the critics love it, the audience loves it and really its just the Conservative section of the fanbase who doesn't like it.
They're arguing that Prometheus is somehow different. It's a thin argument. I'm still opinionless on Prometheus as of this writing but if you mirror ALIEN and juxtaposed some of these hardcore fans opinions of the films as compared to the scathing opinions ALIEN received upon its arrival, you'd see little difference.
There is a difference however, and it's just about expectation. Expectation, for the minority (let's not forget that) wasn't met. That's just all this is about. That's okay. We can disagree, and obviously, as much as I don't like it, people are free to deride the art for them not liking it.
For quite a few, Prometheus not only worked, but worked extraordinarily so. That can't be discounted, it's as valid an opinion as those who think the opposite (but just not as popular).
Actually, I think some critics did criticize ALIEN's writing. I have faint recollections of reading some reviews along those lines. But I'd happily accept being proven wrong...
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Jun 10, 2012, 12:58:27 AMThey're arguing that Prometheus is somehow different. It's a thin argument. I'm still opinionless on Prometheus as of this writing but if you mirror ALIEN and juxtaposed some of these hardcore fans opinions of the films as compared to the scathing opinions ALIEN received upon its arrival, you'd see little difference.
I am only comparing the quality of the screenplays (as are many other critics), not the content of the films themselves. Anyway, enough said. Looking forward to your toughts on it, if you ever make up your mind that is. ;)
Quote from: BLAIN on Jun 10, 2012, 01:15:51 AMActually, I think some critics did criticize ALIEN's writing. I have faint recollections of reading some reviews along those lines. But I'd happily accept being proven wrong...
Yes the writing was critisized, mostly because it was considered 'low-brow'.
Well, there you go.
what a disapointing ,disjointed film,,yes its very eyecandy but its hilariously bad in the story departmnet,, reminded me of avps quick lets get it over with aproache
it is very nice to look at
i hope to god he leave blade runner 2 alone and let their be only 1
Still love it watch for the 5th time :)
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Yes the writing was critisized, mostly because it was considered 'low-brow'.
Also its plot holes.
Quote from: The Hyena on Jun 10, 2012, 12:55:09 AMThe reality is that the critics love it, the audience loves it and really its just the Conservative section of the fanbase who doesn't like it.
The critics in the main don't hate it, but they certainly don't love it - you are making that up. The last five reviews I have read in local newspapers give it no higher than a 3/5, and all of them cite the screenplay as being lack-lustre at the best, and outright stupid at the worst. It has f**k all to do with being a 'conservative fan', that's hogwash.
Again with the "don't love it = hurt fan" bullshit. Come on, the criticism by most of the people on here has been constructive, whether you agree with it or not.
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Yes the writing was critisized, mostly because it was considered 'low-brow'.
Also its plot holes.
Ok then, but that's still not an argument for Prometheus being a great film.
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Ok then, but that's still not an argument for Prometheus being a great film.
I never said it was a masterpiece...but that its no more, no less than Alien was.
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Ok then, but that's still not an argument for Prometheus being a great film.
I never said it was a masterpiece...but that its no more, no less than Alien was.
And there we part ways, and maybe in 30 years Prometheus will be considered a classic (I doubt it personally). If we're both still hanging around here then I will happily concede the argument. :)
Predictions of $55million seem to be a bit off. Deadline reports that Prometheus made $49.5 million over the weekend.
http://www.deadline.com/2012/06/prometheus-box-office-weekend-fox/ (http://www.deadline.com/2012/06/prometheus-box-office-weekend-fox/)
A tidy bit of cash. It will probably have about $140 on the WW market by the weekends end.
Fox are also claiming the budget to be $125 million due to UK tax credits. If true they'll be into the black in no time.
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Ok then, but that's still not an argument for Prometheus being a great film.
I never said it was a masterpiece...but that its no more, no less than Alien was.
And there we part ways, and maybe in 30 years Prometheus will be considered a classic (I doubt it personally). If we're both still hanging around here then I will happily concede the argument. :)
Alien is both a great thriller/sci-fi movie and a 'classic'.
Prometheus is neither, but I think it's
good/better than most nonetheless. I also predict that it will probably be regarded (rightly or wrongly - as it's all hugely subjective) as a classic in years to come... even though it's no where near as cinematically significant as
Alien or
Aliens. But I have to say that I love all three... :)
Given the relatively low seekend numbers and the large initial day-to-day drops, I doubt this will make it much past $100m (U.S.).
Taking into conseration not only the cost of the film, but distribution and marketing, it's going to need massive int'l numbers to make back its money.
EDIT: It'll probably do very well on DVD/BR is there's an extended-cut and lots of extras.
I think everyone is going LOL to the Rated R rating but after the possible revenue it could have generated a facepalm instead. but then LOL again for the grossest scene ever filmed. then a :( for the few millions$$$ . Well we can all say its no Avatar and its not Madagascar.
Quote from: Ooze on First on Jun 10, 2012, 02:40:14 PM
Given the relatively low seekend numbers and the large initial day-to-day drops, I doubt this will make it much past $100m (U.S.).
Taking into conseration not only the cost of the film, but distribution and marketing, it's going to need massive int'l numbers to make back its money.
EDIT: It'll probably do very well on DVD/BR is there's an extended-cut and lots of extras.
The film was made on a relatively low budget. We're not talkin Avatars 500 million, it was around 150m. From merchandise and DVD sales it should easily make its budget back. And the. We get a second one :)
Exhibitor Relations is predicting a flat $50 million. I certainly hope it hit's $50. Also, the Friday to Saturday drop appears worse than it truly is given $3.5 million of Friday's $21.5 million was from midnight showings. The true Friday gross is closer to $18 million.
Also, Exhibitor Relations is reporting another $39 million overseas. This places the overseas total at $91.5 million. Adding on the $50 million stateside, and we're sitting at a worldwide total of $141.5 million. That is provided estimations are accurate.
I thought Prometheus was number one on Friday? Won't the movie be #1 by Sunday since it seems like the chats don't change that much by Sunday? I guess the mixed word of mouth on twitter and FB made people go see a different movie?
So it's opened up about the same as AvP (adjusted for inflation). I expected as much because of its certificate, fortunately, worldwide Prometheus is smashing it. England and Europe have always loved Alien more. Glad we got the premiere.
The movie making $141,500,000 worldwide is a great start. I think the movie could make at least 300 million worldwide by the end of the year.
Quote from: Spidey3121 on Jun 10, 2012, 04:23:36 PM
Exhibitor Relations is predicting a flat $50 million. I certainly hope it hit's $50. Also, the Friday to Saturday drop appears worse than it truly is given $3.5 million of Friday's $21.5 million was from midnight showings. The true Friday gross is closer to $18 million.
Also, Exhibitor Relations is reporting another $39 million overseas. This places the overseas total at $91.5 million. Adding on the $50 million stateside, and we're sitting at a worldwide total of $141.5 million. That is provided estimations are accurate.
That's guaranteed the sequel. Pretty stunning box-office for a once dead franchise...and let's face it, an imperfect movie.
Imagine the takngs if it had been better than the original two films?
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Jun 10, 2012, 04:41:14 PM
I thought Prometheus was number one on Friday? Won't the movie be #1 by Sunday since it seems like the chats don't change that much by Sunday? I guess the mixed word of mouth on twitter and FB made people go see a different movie?
Prometheus was number 1 on Friday, $21.5 vs $20.5, but Madagascar outperformed it on Saturday and Sunday. This comes as no surprise to me, as that tends to be the trend for family films. They play well on Saturday and Sunday afternoons. Plus, it's likely Prometheus carried with it more pent up demand to see it ASAP once it hit theaters.
http://boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/?sortdate=2012-06-10&p=.htm (http://boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/?sortdate=2012-06-10&p=.htm) <- Here's the daily breakdown, though these are still estimates at this point in time.
The report $50 million weekend total is also only an estimate. I do hope that figure holds. Though i'd be disappointed, i wouldn't be surprised if it feel just short. $50 million is just far too clean an precise.
Another thing to take into consideration is that the theater count for Prometheus was 3,396 whereas the theater count for Madagascar was 4,258. That's a considerable difference. Per Box Office Mojo, Prometheus actually had the better average, $14,723 vs. $14,173. Again, that's provided these estimates hold.
I don't see how those Madagascar movies are even popular in the first place? I found the first movie to be mediocre and never bother to watch the sequels. I was hoping the movie would be #1 this weekend since the last Alien related movie was #1 at the box office was AVP which was 8 years ago.
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Jun 10, 2012, 07:01:43 PM
I don't see how those Madagascar movies are even popular in the first place? I found the first movie to be mediocre and never bother to watch the sequels. I was hoping the movie would be #1 this weekend since the last Alien related movie was #1 at the box office was AVP which was 8 years ago.
If you're counting AVP as the last Alien related film, then you'd also have to factor in AVP Requiem. It, despite a relatively strong $9.5 million opening day, came in 3rd. It's first 3 day total, a Tuesday to Thursday stretch, totaled only $16.8 million. It then got slaughtered in it's first weekend outing, coming in 6th. In fact, it's domestic total of approximately $41.5 million has also been eclipsed in 1 weekend.
I myself don't understand the popularity of Madagascar. Of course, there are a lot of popular items that i have no interest in. The 2nd Madagascar film actually opened to $63 million, and finished with $180 total. Whether we like it or not, it's the more poplar franchise, at least in todays world. It also has the advantage of being the first animated kid oriented film of the summer. Though there are plenty of differences between them, alien oriented action flicks are aplenty in Avengers, Battleship, and MIB.
Well Alien Resurrection had the same issue when it went up against Flubber nearly 15 years ago. Sadly, Madagascar 3 is going to out gross it.
That was always going to happen with a massive family film release that is not rated R. That said, the business Prometheus is doing is pretty strong, and for it to beat Madagascar on night 1 is plenty impressive.
I am starting to think that the Prometheus will be "you gotta see that sick flick" movie.
Madagascar pre-premiered in my cinema today.. Madagascar screening was PACKED, but it was only one screening. On the other and, during the whole day, people kept making about half of the hall full.. The movie will be holder, maybe.
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Jun 10, 2012, 05:12:58 PM
The movie making $141,500,000 worldwide is a great start. I think the movie could make at least 300 million worldwide by the end of the year.
It'll be out on DVD/BR long before the end of the year.
Hopefully it gets past $300m ww at all.
141 million worldwide in it's first week. It's a fukcing success folks. I would bet it makes about 200 million stateside. A prequel is probably already greenlit at this stage.
I'm still opinion free at the moment...hopefully I eradicate that tomorrow after a second viewing.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Jun 11, 2012, 12:20:06 AM
141 million worldwide in it's first week. It's a fukcing success folks. I would bet it makes about 200 million stateside. A prequel is probably already greenlit at this stage.
I'm still opinion free at the moment...hopefully I eradicate that tomorrow after a second viewing.
It's going to be massive on Blu-Ray. I'm sure with all the controversy accompanying the film, there're going to be adding tons of bonus features, if not an extended cut.
$300m by the end of the year if not more. Sequel greenlit and out for end of 2014. Bigger, better - probably without Scott, definitely with Lindelof as first writer (we have to accept this, the guys too powerful now and will be given first option I'm sure)
Let me at least articulate this. I hope Lindelof stays the fu€k away from any sequel.
Ridley seems far too keen on doing the next film himself, actually (which I suspect will be called Paradise). I do think endless other spinoff films and properties, merch, etc are possible. I'm still waiting to hear about a game or a comic.
Lindelof has counted himself out of the sequel numerous times, but even so, he was not the driving force behind the script - that was Ridley Scott, all along. I'd like to see Spaihts go it alone, why not? Or, alternately, someone like Tony Gilroy - but he's an auteur now.
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Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Jun 11, 2012, 12:20:06 AM
141 million worldwide in it's first week. It's a fukcing success folks. I would bet it makes about 200 million stateside. A prequel is probably already greenlit at this stage.
I'm still opinion free at the moment...hopefully I eradicate that tomorrow after a second viewing.
It's going to be massive on Blu-Ray. I'm sure with all the controversy accompanying the film, there're going to be adding tons of bonus features, if not an extended cut.
$300m by the end of the year if not more. Sequel greenlit and out for end of 2014. Bigger, better - probably without Scott, definitely with Lindelof as first writer (we have to accept this, the guys too powerful now and will be given first option I'm sure)
I think Scott will produce the second one, i don't think Lindeloff or Spaihts will return and it won't matter. The story will still be Made by Ridley, no matter who the writer is.
As for the box-ofice it's no surprise really. I read Madagascar had 1000 more theaters. It's also a all-age movie. You have kids with their parents going to see it, teenagers and adults. Prometheus has only adults. I'm glad it did 50 million, and i'm curious to see how it does in the second week in the U.S.. I'm expecting at the end of the run a 300-350 million dollars internationaly, which i think is good for a r rated sci-fi? If teens were allowed to see it, we would probably have another 150 million dollars for a total of 500 million
Guess it may do better in Canada. it's only rated 14a
I thought the rating could have gone either way...the film wasn't as "hard" as I thought I would be. No bad language either. I suppose the C-section scene swayed things.
I saw it on Thurs night. This is MY opinion. I think most of the people who got disappointed is because they couldn't keep of their heads that this was BARELY touching the Aliens or didn't see Aliens runing everywhere. Ridley said numerous times it was just the very ending. I as a HUGE fan of all my life am pretty demanding of our Aliens/Pred movies. Love Alien, Aliens, Alien 3 , and both predator, the others ones HUGE disappointment. AVPR not so much cuz it had the classic 80's feel. But I have to say PROMETHEUS was AMAZING!!! What I loved is that, while it is only touching the surface and creates more questions for the sequel, it is one of those movies that makes you think, and if you dog through it you can find a lot of answers. Not only that, but it always did something far greater for me, which was EXPAND the Alien universe. Ridley fixed the main problem, the Alien has been milked so much, I even started to get bored, I don't even know how they are gonna make Colonial marines interesting than any other Alien game. Same enemies al the time. This movie has expanded the Alien universe a LOT and I think this is the most exiting part about it!
Per Exhibitor Relations Twitter: "PROMETHEUS landed with extra cargo: $51,050,101." I'm really glad that estimate of $50 held. For w/e reason, $49.5 just would have felt really disappointing :P
Also worth note is where most films dropped 25%-30% on Sat-Sun, Prometheus only dropped 15%. I guess the word of mouth isn't hurting the film just as much as people thought, it seems more like a simple matter of the Midnight showings boosting Friday's BO.
This makes it the 10th highest opening for an R Rated film.
I was just about to mentioned that, the drop of only 15% on Sunday. The flip side however is that every other film in the top 10 increased it's revenue on Saturday, when Prometheus fell 25%. And yes, as Gazz alluded to above, w/o the midnight take of $3.5 million, the Friday take is approximately $18 million. This translates into a decline of only 11% on Saturday which really ain't so bad at all.
Just returned from a second screening....my theater was full of people. On a Monday? Go figure. During the Xeno birth scene the guy behind me was saying "is that an alien?" " oh shit, that's an alien" he had no clue the film was related. He was totally excited by it.
Any guesses as to what Prometheus will pull in for Monday (6/11)?
Most films of this type drop around 65% from Sun-Mon, so I'll say $4.75m
I'm talking domestic (U.S.) take here.
Seems the movie is becoming highly successful.
Go figure.
Prometheus is actually out grossing MIBIII in the UK with $24.8 to $24.4 million (plus MIBIII was out a week extra also).
I didn't expect that. :)
Early numbers show about $5.3m for Monday.
$5.3 million is on par with what Snow White pulled last monday
It's also a slight improvement over AVP's inflation adjusted $5.0 from 2004
I hope that number holds (or increases) when the actuals come in.
The actual for Monday (domestic) was $5.2 per Box Office Mojo
And per ER, "PROMETHEUS' worldwide haul as of Monday: $148.9M"
The movie may gross on a lower side of $150 million. I wanted the movie to gross over $200 million but hey.....With all the minor violent scenes in the movie, Fox should push for PG13. LORD OF THE RINGS has more constant violence than this movie, seriously! and it gets a PG13
Quote from: zakzak on Jun 13, 2012, 12:10:29 AM
The movie may gross on a lower side of $150 million. I wanted the movie to gross over $200 million but hey.....With all the minor violent scenes in the movie, Fox should push for PG13. LORD OF THE RINGS has more constant violence than this movie, seriously! and it gets a PG13
What are you talking about? It already made 150 million. ::) Sorry, people, this movie was a success. Take your lowballing negativity back to the past where it belongs.
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Quote from: zakzak on Jun 13, 2012, 12:10:29 AM
The movie may gross on a lower side of $150 million. I wanted the movie to gross over $200 million but hey.....With all the minor violent scenes in the movie, Fox should push for PG13. LORD OF THE RINGS has more constant violence than this movie, seriously! and it gets a PG13
What are you talking about? It already made 150 million. ::) Sorry, people, this movie was a success. Take your lowballing negativity back to the past where it belongs.
lol
Quote from: Cybercat on Jun 13, 2012, 01:20:35 AM
Quote from: zakzak on Jun 13, 2012, 12:10:29 AM
The movie may gross on a lower side of $150 million. I wanted the movie to gross over $200 million but hey.....With all the minor violent scenes in the movie, Fox should push for PG13. LORD OF THE RINGS has more constant violence than this movie, seriously! and it gets a PG13
What are you talking about? It already made 150 million. ::) Sorry, people, this movie was a success. Take your lowballing negativity back to the past where it belongs.
He's talking about US box office (which does tend to be excessively focused on by the industry, presumably because the studios get a higher percentage). Worldwide, it's pretty damn close to making back its costs (assuming marketing + distribution is 50% of its $120m production budget, for a $180m total). Should make a tidy profit by the end of its run, and if they can jam the cool stuff people are expecting into the home media release (ideally a "director's cut"), that should be a great success (though, again, for some reason there isn't such a focus on DVD/BD sales).
It'd be a disgrace if Prometheus ended up earning less than Snow White and the Huntsman, Madagascar 3 and MIB3...
Why would it be a disgrace?
MIB3, Madagascar and Snow White are all PG13 and lower. Two of which are sequels to pre existing franchises capable of pulling in larger box office numbers (something the Alien series has never really done since Aliens and even that didn't break records). I think Prometheus will end up doing Snow White type money in America overall (topping out about $130/ $140) and that's just fine.
Quote from: Gazz on Jun 13, 2012, 10:40:49 AM
Why would it be a disgrace?
MIB3, Madagascar and Snow White are all PG13 and lower. Two of which are sequels to pre existing franchises capable of pulling in larger box office numbers (something the Alien series has never really done since Aliens and even that didn't break records). I think Prometheus will end up doing Snow White type money in America overall (topping out about $130/ $140) and that's just fine.
You could argue that Snow White will pull in the Twilight crowd, so it might as well be another franchised picture. More than just the rating though, those films all
appeal to kids, who turn out in droves to anything that's well marketed, are frequent repeat-viewers, and bring their parents along whether the adults want to see it or not.
Even if Prometheus was neutered into a PG-13, it's not that kind of a film, and has to make its money purely on merit. If anything, the higher rating may be helpful, because the adult audience can see it's something intended specifically for them.
Add on another $5 million for Tuesday for a $61.2 total thus far
Let's not forget there are still major territories who are yet to have a premiere for Prometheus. Such as Germany, Brazil, Argentina, Mexico, Italy, Spain, Switzerland, Israel, Japan, etc. And of course my homeland, Poland ;) So there's still plenty of $$$$ to be made!!! Don't lose hope! European audiences respect Alien franchise and the age ratings are tad different here, so it won't affect ticket sales that much...And Prometheus will edge out the competition. No one cares about shitty Madagascar movies in EU, compared to Prometheus. For realz.
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Quote from: Cybercat on Jun 13, 2012, 01:20:35 AM
Quote from: zakzak on Jun 13, 2012, 12:10:29 AM
The movie may gross on a lower side of $150 million. I wanted the movie to gross over $200 million but hey.....With all the minor violent scenes in the movie, Fox should push for PG13. LORD OF THE RINGS has more constant violence than this movie, seriously! and it gets a PG13
What are you talking about? It already made 150 million. ::) Sorry, people, this movie was a success. Take your lowballing negativity back to the past where it belongs.
He's talking about US box office (which does tend to be excessively focused on by the industry, presumably because the studios get a higher percentage). Worldwide, it's pretty damn close to making back its costs (assuming marketing + distribution is 50% of its $120m production budget, for a $180m total). Should make a tidy profit by the end of its run, and if they can jam the cool stuff people are expecting into the home media release (ideally a "director's cut"), that should be a great success (though, again, for some reason there isn't such a focus on DVD/BD sales).
Money is money. I seriously doubt they're only going to focus on the US take with how Fox approaches films now.
Nobody has lost hope. In fact everywhere i look the people that matter seem to be saying that it's doing good business for the type of film it is, it's budget and rating. It's doing just fine.
I hope it makes it into the top 10 highest grossing films
Quote from: r888 on Jun 14, 2012, 03:29:49 AM
I hope it makes it into the top 10 highest grossing films
Bro, it would have to make over a billion dollars to do that.
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Quote from: r888 on Jun 14, 2012, 03:29:49 AM
I hope it makes it into the top 10 highest grossing films
Bro, it would have to make over a billion dollars to do that.
I'm going to assume he's referring to just 2012. Of course, even in that case it won't crack the top 10. Still, it doesn't need those accolades to be considered successful. Hell, FOX already seems very pleased with it's performance. Let's just hope it holds well this weekend. Anything equal to or less than a 50% drop would be ideal. Anything approaching 60% or worse would be troublesome
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A few more updates:
The official tally for Wednesday is $4.08 million, w/ a total of $65.33 million
Box Office is predicting a 2nd weekend haul of $23.5 million
Box Office Guru is predicting a 2nd weekend haul of $23 million
Exhibitor Relations is predicting a 2nd weekend haul of $24 million
All predict Madagascar to repeat at No. 1
Anywhere between $24-$26 would be solid and put the film at around $94-$96 million by the end of the weekend (following Snow Whites BO). Plus the foreign box office we'll be well in to $200 mil territory.
Quote from: r888 on Jun 14, 2012, 03:29:49 AM
I hope it makes it into the top 10 highest grossing films
You mean the top 10 highest grossing movie of 2012? It's possible but I won't count on it. With the IMAX 3D ticket sales then it could make at least 300 million. You have a new James Bond film and a Twilight coming out this fall. Prometheus might be lucky to make it to #10, but I still doubt it.
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Jun 13, 2012, 10:18:08 AM
It'd be a disgrace if Prometheus ended up earning less than Snow White and the Huntsman, Madagascar 3 and MIB3...
Well MIB3 is a Will Smith film and it's a sequel. I doubt Prometheus is going to out gross it anytime soon.
BoxOfficeMojo predicts a $23.5 million dollar weekend and 4th place finish.
Weekend Forecast (June 15-17)
1. Madagascar 3 - $33.8 million (-44%)
2. Rock of Ages - $28.6 million
3. That's My Boy - $24.5 million
4. Prometheus - $23.5 million (-54%)
http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3463&p=.htm (http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3463&p=.htm)
Israel and further seven south American teritories are opening on 14th/15th of June, so further $$$ :)
I've been at work yesterday, I was admitting people into the projection halls and showings Prometheus had nice attendance.. From time to time, I asked people why Prometheus.. Frequent answers are girlfriend who had to go with her boyfriend, people who like sci-fi, people who liked Alien movies and most important, word of mouth..
I think that Prometheus has steady attendance and will have some nice money.. And there are still some unopened teritories with nice box office potential ;)
The box office after this weekend will be $200 million. My estimation is between (or little less than) $400 to $500 total BO.
At worst it'd be $300 domestic + worldwide. Not a flop by any means for a R-rated movie.
Enough ca$h to guarantee a sequel?
Quote from: Blacklabel on Jun 15, 2012, 08:38:42 AM
Enough ca$h to guarantee a sequel?
Probably, in meantime, Ridley will shoot The Counselor with Fassbender.. There will be enough time to write script.
The sequel is probably well under way in terms of administrative happenings, talks, etc...
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Jun 15, 2012, 12:04:33 PM
The sequel is probably well under way in terms of administrative happenings, talks, etc...
I would have thought so... We can expect the DVD/Blu Ray sales to be quite substantial too. I'd imagine a sequel is a studio no-brainer at this stage. My only hope is that they don't try and do a follow up that's to
Prometheus what
Aliens was to
Alien... as I'd like to think they could make an intelligent sequel that improves on the ground set out by
Prometheus (as we know it wasn't perfect) rather than having something with wall to wall aliens and explosions...
Quote from: JonesTheCat on Jun 02, 2012, 01:33:52 PM
Quote from: Valaquen on Jun 02, 2012, 10:13:56 AM
I wish the film stunning financial success, so they can make a sequel ... and I hope they listen to the criticisms, so they avoid the same ridiculous mistakes.
Simple solution - drop Damon Lindelof down a very deep hole and keep him well away from any sequel. :)
That comment made my day. :laugh:
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Jun 15, 2012, 08:30:08 AM
At worst it'd be $300 domestic + worldwide. Not a flop by any means for a R-rated movie.
Actually that would be an incredible take for a "R" rated Sci-Fi movie.
Quote from: Prime113 on Jun 15, 2012, 04:52:08 AM
BoxOfficeMojo predicts a $23.5 million dollar weekend and 4th place finish.
Weekend Forecast (June 15-17)
1. Madagascar 3 - $33.8 million (-44%)
2. Rock of Ages - $28.6 million
3. That's My Boy - $24.5 million
4. Prometheus - $23.5 million (-54%)
http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3463&p=.htm (http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3463&p=.htm)
I hope it will be at least number three. A number four spot seems likely since I see a lot of mixed word of mouth on Facebook, Twitter and Internet forums.
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Jun 15, 2012, 06:26:13 PM
Quote from: Prime113 on Jun 15, 2012, 04:52:08 AM
BoxOfficeMojo predicts a $23.5 million dollar weekend and 4th place finish.
Weekend Forecast (June 15-17)
1. Madagascar 3 - $33.8 million (-44%)
2. Rock of Ages - $28.6 million
3. That's My Boy - $24.5 million
4. Prometheus - $23.5 million (-54%)
http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3463&p=.htm (http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3463&p=.htm)
I hope it will be at least number three. A number four spot seems likely since I see a lot of mixed word of mouth on Facebook, Twitter and Internet forums.
Well, as far as a sequel's concerned I don't think it matters how highly it ranks, just the money involved. If it finishes its run with $300m worldwide, it should easily justify a repeat outing.
R rated films rarely make that much money. I think 250 million is possible and more likely to happen.
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Jun 15, 2012, 06:26:13 PM
Quote from: Prime113 on Jun 15, 2012, 04:52:08 AM
BoxOfficeMojo predicts a $23.5 million dollar weekend and 4th place finish.
Weekend Forecast (June 15-17)
1. Madagascar 3 - $33.8 million (-44%)
2. Rock of Ages - $28.6 million
3. That's My Boy - $24.5 million
4. Prometheus - $23.5 million (-54%)
http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3463&p=.htm (http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3463&p=.htm)
I hope it will be at least number three. A number four spot seems likely since I see a lot of mixed word of mouth on Facebook, Twitter and Internet forums.
Why would anyone want to see a musical about 80's glam rock? And another generic Sandller movie. I'm going to say that it's going to turn out different.
QuoteI hope it will be at least number three. A number four spot seems likely since I see a lot of mixed word of mouth on Facebook, Twitter and Internet forums.
Your contact with forums and twitter means nothing. The film has a high audience fresh rating. I think that helps indicate "word of mouth."
I really want a follow up too - but I'm hoping it will be with the same writing and production crew. Certainly, I want to see RS in the directors chair. Crossing my fingers for them.
Quote from: Prime113 on Jun 14, 2012, 03:53:08 AM
Quote from: r888 on Jun 14, 2012, 03:29:49 AM
I hope it makes it into the top 10 highest grossing films
Bro, it would have to make over a billion dollars to do that.
And it will I hope :)
According to Deadline Hollywood, "Madagascar 3" and "Prometheus" should both be holding steady at #1 and #2 at the box office this weekend. Apparently, "Rock of Ages" and "That's My Boy" had extremely weak opening day numbers with both looking to finish the weekend under $20 million.
Good. Good. ;D
Deadline Hollywood have a really bad habit of putting spin on box office numbers. For instance here they're counting last Thursday's midnight numbers to make the Friday to Friday drop seem steeper than it actually was (same as what they did last weekend). That said a $20 million weekend is still a steeper drop than Fox would have wanted (though that may change over the weekend).
Yeah, it's pretty much good news / bad news.
Good: It should retain the number 2 spot, unless Rock of Ages plays better over Saturday and/or Sunday.
Bad: It might only pull in $20 million
Honestly though, a weekend haul of $20 million isn't that bad. It certainly ain't good, but surely that be overshadowed by how poorly Rock of Rages and Adam Sandler are bombing. Plus, Avengers aside, this summer hasn't been kind to big blockbusters
I really hope Prometheus can maintain a #2 spot again, but man I dont even know...a lot of 'casuals' I have talked to at work didn't like the movie.. then again, they don't really like anything that doesnt have a damned simple plot, and I dont consider their opinions good, I just see things like this working against the BO.
"Like, I just dont like it. Humans were created? Pft, yeah right.. And evolution, pshhhh... it just was too complex, I didnt get it, etc etc"
=/
Prometheus is a far more complex film than Alien and Aliens. I think it is attempting to be something more like 2001: A Space Odyssey. I don't know any 'casuals' that like that movie either even though it is widely considered to be a benchmark film for science fiction.
Most people just don't have any clue whatsoever...
yeah, I think it asks a lot of grand questions, which goes way over casual viewers head, they usually have no interest in movies like that. Avatar was so well accepted because it had a simple point a to point b plot, Prometheus was a lot more complex. And tbh, I dont think its the script issues causing casuals to not like it..they just wanted a simple monster movie. It frustrates me sometimes how 'dumb' audiences can be, this happens with a lot of films that are complex. Ah well.
I also think mixed word of mouth is hurting the film, but it should stay afloat a little longer..its a shame it doesnt do a bit better, because I think the movie is fantastic with flaws. Ah well, I guess its wait and see for this weekends BO.
Over half the highest grossing films of all time are just as flawed.
Also, I think downloading it is hurting it more then word of mouth. Most people I know HATE going to theatres now. They would rather watch a shitty cam at home then have to make time in their days to go see a movie. I have to admit i am with them...I would rather have paid for the DVD/bluray without seeing the movie then to endure a theatre. The picture where i saw it was fairly blurry and the audio mix stunk. Way to loud [I work in sound and music as a profession and hate the fact I have to wear earplugs to see a movie in a theatre as the mix is always way to loud and never balanced].
The film did well enough with "casuals" I think. Over-extrapolating based on people you know generally doesn't mean anything in a wider context.
I raved about the movie around my apartment -- saw it twicw.
my wife - who hates this kind of movie - says she keeps hearing all the hullaballoo and that there is a philosophical slant to the whole flick and now wants to go see it. :laugh:
Also Fox was predicting the movie was going to make 33 million opening weekend. It's already a success. I'm not buying that it is only making 20 million this weekend so far. Yesterday, the same know it alls were assuming Rock of Ages and Gerneric Sandler Film 33 weren't going to bomb.
Does anyone know what the total budget was for this film?
As of today boxofficemojo.com states that the film made:
$74,483,000 Domestic
$92,736,717 Foreign
$167,219,717 Total.
Not bad.
Quote from: shadowedge on Jun 17, 2012, 03:22:04 AM
Does anyone know what the total budget was for this film?
As of today boxofficemojo.com states that the film made:
$74,483,000 Domestic
$92,736,717 Foreign
$167,219,717 Total.
I've heard figures ranging between $120 and 130 million (which actually is exactly what it says on Wikipedia). Marketing and distribution costs tend to be around an additional third (http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Movie_Making_Manual/Film_Marketing#Finding_a_Distributor) of the budget, so it cost somewhere in the region of $170m.
One US TV recently purchased rights for first showing on TV, that's further millions of $$$ :)
It still hasnt recovered its budget in the US alone.. is this a bad thing?
It'll meet it's budget in America but the foreign market will be what turns the profit... then dvd/ blu-ray sales.
Also there has been a Deadline update.
2. Prometheus (Fox) Week 2 [3,442 Theaters] R
Friday $5.8M, Saturday $7.8M, Weekend $21.0M (-59%), Cume $89.7M
So we're down from deadlines exaggerated 73% drop to 59%. It'll break that 90 before the end of the weekend, especially if the film has a smaller SAT/SUN drop as it did last week (though Deadline didn't pick up on that last week either). Neither of the new releases are coming close to touching it either.
Quote from: Gazz on Jun 17, 2012, 06:44:50 AM
It'll meet it's budget in America but the foreign market will be what turns the profit... then dvd/ blu-ray sales.
Also there has been a Deadline update.
2. Prometheus (Fox) Week 2 [3,442 Theaters] R
Friday $5.8M, Saturday $7.8M, Weekend $21.0M (-59%), Cume $89.7M
So we're down from deadlines exaggerated 73% drop to 59%. It'll break that 90 before the end of the weekend, especially if the film has a smaller SAT/SUN drop as it did last week (though Deadline didn't pick up on that last week either). Neither of the new releases are coming close to touching it either.
That estimate of $21 million might actually be a bit generous. It'll have to hold exceptionally well on Sunday to hit it. Let's just hope it hits $20 million. And yes, both new releases are tanking. Hopefully that'll take the blunt of the bad press this weekend. I really thought Rock of Ages would play better. As for Adam Sandler, i'm happy that general audiences are finally sobering up to the fact that he's absolute shit.
It looks like Prometheus is on track for about 150 to 175 million which is absolutely great! Easily it's the most profitable film in the series and combined with global earnings were looking at 300 to 400 million without a thought. Prometheus 2 HERE WE COME!
Don't fret guys, wait till the Christmas merchandise funds start rolling in! :laugh:
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Jun 17, 2012, 12:29:06 PM
It looks like Prometheus is on track for about 150 to 175 million which is absolutely great! Easily it's the most profitable film in the series and combined with global earnings were looking at 300 to 400 million without a thought. Prometheus 2 HERE WE COME!
It's not. It probably won't even be as profitable as AvP, at least theatrically. The studio gets about 60% of the domestic revenue and 40% of what it earns overseas. The production budget has been pegged at $130million, add another 50, 60 for marketing and the film will be lucky to break even after all is said and done. It'll make 120/130million in the US and I suspect a further 150, maybe more, overseas.
In terms of profitability it won't be the most successful in the series, but it will be in sheer figures.
When will it open in the China? Titanic 3D made there over $100 million..
So, the film released last week and it just about at the 100 million mark. Theatrical runs tend to be around 1 to 2 months in length. Calculating the sales for that, 175 million is a good number estimate. Combined with overseas sales, 400 million is probably about where it leaves out cumulatively. That's a lowball estimate.
QuoteAvatar was so well accepted because it had a simple point a to point b plot
Not surprising, cause its a point-for-point ripoff of Fern Gully.
Quote from: The Hyena on Jun 17, 2012, 03:41:34 PM
QuoteAvatar was so well accepted because it had a simple point a to point b plot
Not surprising, cause its a point-for-point ripoff of Fern Gully.
Except that it's not. Using this logic, Alien is a point by point ripoff of the Blob.
It's not what the story is about, as long as it is told well.
Quote from: SuicideDoors on Jun 17, 2012, 01:20:47 PM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Jun 17, 2012, 12:29:06 PM
It looks like Prometheus is on track for about 150 to 175 million which is absolutely great! Easily it's the most profitable film in the series and combined with global earnings were looking at 300 to 400 million without a thought. Prometheus 2 HERE WE COME!
It's not. It probably won't even be as profitable as AvP, at least theatrically. The studio gets about 60% of the domestic revenue and 40% of what it earns overseas. The production budget has been pegged at $130million, add another 50, 60 for marketing and the film will be lucky to break even after all is said and done. It'll make 120/130million in the US and I suspect a further 150, maybe more, overseas.
In terms of profitability it won't be the most successful in the series, but it will be in sheer figures.
These can't be accurate percentages. If that was the case, studios wouldn't even bother making movies.
I'm glad that it's at the number two spot again.
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Jun 17, 2012, 06:36:17 AM
It still hasnt recovered its budget in the US alone.. is this a bad thing?
The movie only came out a week ago. I think it will in another few more weeks. The movie seems to be pretty close to making 200 million worldwide.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Jun 17, 2012, 02:02:00 PM
So, the film released last week and it just about at the 100 million mark. Theatrical runs tend to be around 1 to 2 months in length. Calculating the sales for that, 175 million is a good number estimate. Combined with overseas sales, 400 million is probably about where it leaves out cumulatively. That's a lowball estimate.
I'd hardly call $400 million a lowball estimate. Firstly, it won't touch $175 million domestically. Tops, we're looking at $150, and that's even far from likely. I'm not saying it can't hit $400 million worldwide, but i remain skeptical. It'll need to double it's current foreign take of $128 million for that to happen. BTW, the current worldwide total is at $217.5 million.
At least it's not like Battleship which having a hard time making back it's budget (Counting the marketing that they spend on the film).
$300 million is definitly in the bag at this point. It's holding well overseas but with no major markets opening for a while expect it to start dropping over the next few weeks.
With all said and done and remembering both Japan and China have yet to open I think the film will top out somewhere between $350 and $370.
Associated Press stating worldwide box off is $218m after 2 weekends - that's pretty amazing for a movie that splits an audience so strongly.
On course for well over $300m I say...closer $400m considering the interest/demand in Blu-Ray extended versions.
Sequel surely in development?
Quote from: Spidey3121 on Jun 17, 2012, 06:18:11 PM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Jun 17, 2012, 02:02:00 PM
So, the film released last week and it just about at the 100 million mark. Theatrical runs tend to be around 1 to 2 months in length. Calculating the sales for that, 175 million is a good number estimate. Combined with overseas sales, 400 million is probably about where it leaves out cumulatively. That's a lowball estimate.
I'd hardly call $400 million a lowball estimate. Firstly, it won't touch $175 million domestically. Tops, we're looking at $150, and that's even far from likely. I'm not saying it can't hit $400 million worldwide, but i remain skeptical. It'll need to double it's current foreign take of $128 million for that to happen. BTW, the current worldwide total is at $217.5 million.
Sadly the numbers and time frame don't back up your assertions...but that's okay...we're all friends here. We can disagree with smiles on our faces. ;)
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Jun 17, 2012, 08:37:59 PM
Quote from: Spidey3121 on Jun 17, 2012, 06:18:11 PM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Jun 17, 2012, 02:02:00 PM
So, the film released last week and it just about at the 100 million mark. Theatrical runs tend to be around 1 to 2 months in length. Calculating the sales for that, 175 million is a good number estimate. Combined with overseas sales, 400 million is probably about where it leaves out cumulatively. That's a lowball estimate.
I'd hardly call $400 million a lowball estimate. Firstly, it won't touch $175 million domestically. Tops, we're looking at $150, and that's even far from likely. I'm not saying it can't hit $400 million worldwide, but i remain skeptical. It'll need to double it's current foreign take of $128 million for that to happen. BTW, the current worldwide total is at $217.5 million.
Sadly the numbers and time frame don't back up your assertions...but that's okay...we're all friends here. We can disagree with smiles on our faces. ;)
Nor do they back up any of your estimates...
On current trends and looking at latest figures it's looking to end somewhere north of $300 million and it may nudge $400 million although I don't think it's trending strong enough for that. Given the $130 M budget and fairly big marketing campaign it'll be modestly profitable overall. However sales to global television networks plus BR and DVD should push it into overall decent return.
It's reviewed better than a lot of big movies and ends on a cliffhanger. Given the franchise was considered dead before this movie I think Fox will continue with the franchise now and green light a direct follow up. Normally films that are intended to get a franchise back on track don't have to do huge numbers so long as they're perceived to have sufficiently repaired the damage.
I think Prometheus hasn't totally recovered things in the Alien Universe, but it feels like it's done enough for Fox to see if a stronger follow up can do better.
Based on un-adjusted figures. "Prometheus" is now the highest grossing film in the "Alien" and "Predator" Franchise, domestic and worldwide. But when Adjusted for inflation the original "Alien" is still King. Here are the full box office numbers:
Alien Franchise Box Office:
Rank Title (click to view) Studio Gross / Theaters Opening / Theaters Date
1 Prometheus Fox $88,858,000 3,442 $51,050,101 3,396 6/8/12
2 Aliens Fox $85,160,248 1,454 $10,052,042 1,437 7/18/86
3 Alien Vs. Predator Fox $80,282,231 3,401 $38,291,056 3,395 8/13/04
4 Alien Fox $78,944,891 757 $3,527,881 91 5/25/79
5 Alien 3 Fox $55,473,545 2,227 $19,449,867 2,227 5/22/92
6 Alien Resurrection Fox $47,795,658 2,449 $16,474,092 2,415 11/26/97
7 Aliens Vs. Predator - Requiem Fox $41,797,066 2,617 $10,059,425 2,611 12/25/07
TOTAL: $478,311,639 - - - -
AVERAGE: $68,330,234 2,335 $21,272,066 2,225 -
Adjusted for Ticket Price Inflation
Rank Title (click to view) Studio Adjusted Gross Unadjusted Gross Release
1 Alien Fox $249,101,000 $78,944,891 5/25/79
2 Aliens Fox $181,797,600 $85,160,248 7/18/86
3 Alien 3 Fox $105,867,600 $55,473,545 5/22/92
4 Alien Vs. Predator Fox $102,388,900 $80,282,231 8/13/04
5 Prometheus Fox $88,858,000 $88,858,000 6/8/12
6 Alien Resurrection Fox $82,470,900 $47,795,658 11/26/97
7 Aliens Vs. Predator - Requiem Fox $46,914,300 $41,797,066 12/25/07
TOTAL: $857,398,400 $478,311,639 -
AVERAGE: $122,485,500 $68,330,234 -
Worldwide (Unadjusted)
Rank Title (click to view) Studio Worldwide Domestic / % Overseas / % Year
1 Prometheus Fox $181.6 $88.9 48.9% $92.7 51.1% 2012
2 Alien Vs. Predator Fox $172.5 $80.3 46.5% $92.3 53.5% 2004
3 Alien Resurrection Fox $161.4 $47.8 29.6% $113.6 70.4% 1997
4 Alien 3 Fox $159.8 $55.5 34.7% $104.3 65.3% 1992
5 Aliens Fox $131.1 $85.2 65% $45.9 35% 1986
6 Aliens Vs. Predator - Requiem Fox $128.9 $41.8 32.4% $87.1 67.6% 2007
7 Alien Fox $102.9 $78.9 76.7% $24.0 23.3% 1979
TOTAL: $1,038.2 $478.3 46.1% $559.9 53.9% -
AVERAGE: $148.3 $68.3 46.1% $80.0 53.9% -
I think "Prometheus" is doing very well for it's Budget and R-rating. People have to understand, R-rated movies have a limited audience since everyone can't go. The fact that it's still #2 at the Box Office with a new movie from Adam Sandler and Tom Cruise that came out is showing that it's having some legs. Yes a 59%-60% drop is Big but again it's Rated R.
Quote from: Game_Over_Man on Jun 17, 2012, 07:53:09 PM
(...)
Sequel surely in development?
Unofficially :D
Jon Spaihts can begin to look for his notes :)
OMG Prom just beat AVP for worldwide totals!
Noooooooooo!!! :laugh:
Quote from: Cybercat on Jun 17, 2012, 04:58:25 PM
Quote from: SuicideDoors on Jun 17, 2012, 01:20:47 PM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Jun 17, 2012, 12:29:06 PM
It looks like Prometheus is on track for about 150 to 175 million which is absolutely great! Easily it's the most profitable film in the series and combined with global earnings were looking at 300 to 400 million without a thought. Prometheus 2 HERE WE COME!
It's not. It probably won't even be as profitable as AvP, at least theatrically. The studio gets about 60% of the domestic revenue and 40% of what it earns overseas. The production budget has been pegged at $130million, add another 50, 60 for marketing and the film will be lucky to break even after all is said and done. It'll make 120/130million in the US and I suspect a further 150, maybe more, overseas.
In terms of profitability it won't be the most successful in the series, but it will be in sheer figures.
These can't be accurate percentages. If that was the case, studios wouldn't even bother making movies.
There more than less accurate percentages, I was a member of the box office mojo forums for 8 years before they were pulled I like talking figures. You have to take into account DVD sales and sales to tv networks and merch, films have lifespans after theatre runs
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Jun 17, 2012, 11:05:07 PM
OMG Prom just beat AVP for worldwide totals!
Noooooooooo!!! :laugh:
It'll also have it (and Alien 3) beat for domestic adjusted by the end of next weekend to rank 3rd in the franchise. But I think that's about as far as it'll be going.
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Jun 17, 2012, 11:05:07 PM
OMG Prom just beat AVP for worldwide totals!
Noooooooooo!!! :laugh:
Yes, Order has been restored in the Alien Universe, lol. What's crazy is worldwide un-adjusted, "Alien" is the lowest grossing, even under "AVP: R", now that's scary. Also "A:R" out grossed all the previous Alien films Worldwide. "Prometheus" has brought balance to the force, lol.
This was updated from wikipedia today:
Budget $120–130 million[3]
Box office $217.5 million[4]
If Prometheus only ended up breaking even on its budget and advertising costs, (or even losing a little) it still would be very profitable for Fox as a whole and could still warrant a sequel. As it is, it looks like they will make a decent profit on the film.
There's more to a franchise than just box office take. A film can break even on pure box office numbers but still be a financial success when taking into account product licensing, television licensing, Blu-Ray/DVD sales and video game licensing and the long term valuation of the brand. The existence of a new entry in the franchise rekindles an interest in existing franchise properties, such as the value of the existing back catalog of Alien films.
Hopefully Scott gets to make his sequel(s), but even if he didn't, the Alien franchise would still be the basis for films, television and gaming for decades to come and the very existence of Prometheus helps advertise and elevate the long term value of the franchise/brand.
Keep Spaihts, jettison Lindelof. He can't write dialogue for shit.
The Alien series never seem to make much as money compare to other movies based on popular franchises like Marvel, DC, Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, Jurassic Park, Godzilla, and several others. Seeing that the movie is not even out in other parts of the world then I hope the movie can finally reach past 300 million. It could thanks to IMAX and 3D ticket sales.
It's doing well. Cinemascore shows that audiences generally like it; monetarilly it's made quite a bit for a big budgetted R rated film. Not adjusted for inflation, it has the biggest take of any Alien movie, no?
Not to mention it's second only two a film that's part of a highly lucrative children's franchise, and it's well ahead of other new openings that seemed like they would do a lot better (ie Rock of Ages.) Next week it'll be up against Brave. Nobody should expect Brave to fail- it has a wide appeal and is highly anticipated. So Prometheus falling more makes sense. In other words, Prometheus is doing as well as can be expected, given the timing. That's gotta be good for greenlighting a sequel.
Unless I'm all wrong.
Prometheus is top of the UK charts for a 3rd week running with more than $30 million (which is $2 million more than MiB3 has made despite that face Will Smith's film was released a week before). It's the 4th film this year to hold the top spot at the UK BO for 3 consecutive weeks though it's unlikely to make the 4th. It has also made $7 million more than Ridley Scott's last film, Robin Hood, did in it's entire lifetime in the same market (that film went on to make $216 on the foreign market).
Despite box office figures taking a hit on Friday as a result of the England-Sweden match, Prometheus notched a third consecutive week at number one in the UK following a $2.97m (£1.9m) haul.
Fox's sci-fi is the fourth film this year to go three weeks at the top of the UK box office. No film has yet recorded four straight weeks at the UK's summit this year and Prometheus will have to hold off competition from Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter and The Five-Year Engagement if it hopes to do so.
Ridley Scott's return to the sci-fi genre has garnered $30m (£19.2m) to date, the 14th best performance of the last 52 weeks at the UK box office and the fifth best of the year so far.
SOURCE: http://www.screendaily.com/box-office/rock-of-ages-is-off-key-as-prometheus-makes-it-three-weeks-at-summit-of-uk-box-office/5043409.article?blocktitle=Box-office&contentID=610 (http://www.screendaily.com/box-office/rock-of-ages-is-off-key-as-prometheus-makes-it-three-weeks-at-summit-of-uk-box-office/5043409.article?blocktitle=Box-office&contentID=610)
Personally, i don't think Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter is going to play well overseas. Actually, i'm skeptical it'll catch on stateside. I originally had interest in it, but the ads, or really the only ad, doesn't do anything to inspire me to see it.
Also, the official weekend tally was $20.7 million, up form the estimated $20.2 million. It's total now sits at $89.3 million. It just needs to keep on keepin' on and it'll do alright.
Yeah, I'm not seeing Abraham Lincoln running away with anything myself.
Putting aside the poor guy who made Night Watch's American track record thus far, it's such a bizarre semi-gag concept that I really don't think it'll do better than middling.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Jun 18, 2012, 02:55:38 AM
Keep Spaihts, jettison Lindelof. He can't write dialogue for shit.
He did expand on David's character though.. and for that.. i'm very grateful :laugh:
Another strong Sunday hold.
Based on the competition, "Prometheus" is doing very well at the Box Office. Based on my chart on the previous page, it's already the highest grossing film in the entire universe including The Predator films ( ;). This weekend it faced competition from not only Adam Sandler but Tom Cruise and The Engineers knocked them both out with David's head ;D. I think we are looking at between 130-150 Domestic and Over 300 OS giving a total over 430-450 Worldwide which would pretty much lock a sequel. I said it once and I'll say it again, "R-rated" film have limited audience and the fact "Prometheus" came in at #2 again only losing to a Family Film in a market were there are no other animated films proves it's doing very well.
I anticipate a sequel. I also anticipate it to be a strong PG-13.
The writing is on the wall at this point. A sequel is well under way.
BUT
I'm curious about what the 10.12.12 date refers to aside from the DVD?? Could it be there's more up their sleeve?
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Jun 18, 2012, 10:52:13 PM
The writing is on the wall at this point. A sequel is well under way.
BUT
I'm curious about what the 10.12.12 date refers to aside from the DVD?? Could it be there's more up their sleeve?
I hope a sequel is in talks right now, kind of hope to see Ridley doing it too or being connected to it.
I doubt anything more is happening on that date besides DVD. What else is there, another viral ??
Brave is getting mixed reviews with a 66% on RT so far. I think Prometheus could still beat it.
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Jun 19, 2012, 06:44:07 AM
Brave is getting mixed reviews with a 66% on RT so far. I think Prometheus could still beat it.
Too much anticipation. It's a pixar film. It has great marketing. And it has a wider audience. It might weaken over time but it'll still do great business.
Monday 2.5 Million, 51% drop from last Monday. Now 222 Million Worldwide. 300 Million looks like a lock by the end of this week.
So in general how much money does a film need to make in the box office to be successful enough for the production company to order a sequel?
Lets say this hypothetical film had a budget of an even $100 Million plus costs for advertising.
Quote from: shadowedge on Jun 20, 2012, 04:27:33 AM
So in general how much money does a film need to make in the box office to be successful enough for the production company to order a sequel?
Lets say this hypothetical film had a budget of an even $100 Million plus costs for advertising.
Best case scenario that isn't a runaway Avatar-esque success- I think it needs to make back over 100mil domestically and make back the rest overseas. I think.
Depends on context too.
Making back it's budget it always a good starting point. If you fail to do that, getting a sequel becomes much less likely. Considering the WW sum thus far though, we're definitely in the clear with Prometheus.
Also the DVD will sell like crazy because of the extra footage & porn scenes
I can't believe how many people want to see that shitty Madagsacar movie and how well it fares. I just literally want to vomit. Shitty Madagascar movie, why this combination of an adjective "shitty" plus the name of the movie sounds so good and apt?
It's a kids movie out when there are no other kids movies out. Those type of films always thrive regardless of quality.
Could the fact Madagascar's trailer was out already in December 2011 be an additional factor?
Not at all. These films aren't vying for the attention of the same audience so their marketing campaigns were never aimed at the same people.
One is an R rated sci-fi film aimed to reboot a failing franchise and marketed towards adults. The other is the third entry in a highly popular family friendly PG kids film. Madagascar's trailer was released in December because it's a time of the year when the movie market is full of films marketed towards kids. This gives the marketing team a wealth of films to place their trailer before.
I think you've simply set your expectations too high on what was realistically achievable here. That the film reached the top 10 for opening weekends of an R Rated film and is 3rd for highest second place speaks to how well it was received in it's first few days of release.
Quote from: AsapJockey on Jun 20, 2012, 10:35:25 AM
Also the DVD will sell like crazy because of the extra footage & porn scenes
What? Prometheus has porn scenes?!?
Quote from: shadowedge on Jun 20, 2012, 07:20:57 PM
Quote from: AsapJockey on Jun 20, 2012, 10:35:25 AM
Also the DVD will sell like crazy because of the extra footage & porn scenes
What? Prometheus has porn scenes?!?
Yes, the name's been already revealed.. It's "The Adventures of the Space Accordion".
:D
Quote from: shadowedge on Jun 20, 2012, 07:20:57 PM
Quote from: AsapJockey on Jun 20, 2012, 10:35:25 AM
Also the DVD will sell like crazy because of the extra footage & porn scenes
What? Prometheus has porn scenes?!?
Tentacles, hermaphrodite engineers, Charlize Theron... What more do you need?
Quote from: shadowedge on Jun 20, 2012, 04:27:33 AM
So in general how much money does a film need to make in the box office to be successful enough for the production company to order a sequel?
Lets say this hypothetical film had a budget of an even $100 Million plus costs for advertising.
Well Theater Owners and Studio split the profits. Studios get a larger profit share for the opening weeks but overall the Budget for this was about 130, let's throw in another 50 for marketing. If it grosses over 400 Million then it would of doubled it's budget. That's not counting DVD and TV rights. Also why are people shocked it lost to Madagascar III? The family market has been dry all summer, Families had really no real Animated film to love. MIB3 and The Avengers took most of the family dollars this summer. MAD3 is benefiting for being the first major animated film of the summer. "Brave" is going to clean up next weekend too cause families are starving for something right now. Prometheus is a R-rated Sci-Fi Horror/Thriller, it's audience was limited from the gate, yet it had a top 10 R-rated opening ever and the Highest R-rated opening in June. It's doing quite well.
Quote from: Aquarius8 on Jun 21, 2012, 01:07:24 AM
Quote from: shadowedge on Jun 20, 2012, 04:27:33 AM
So in general how much money does a film need to make in the box office to be successful enough for the production company to order a sequel?
Lets say this hypothetical film had a budget of an even $100 Million plus costs for advertising.
Well Theater Owners and Studio split the profits. Studios get a larger profit share for the opening weeks but overall the Budget for this was about 130, let's throw in another 50 for marketing. If it grosses over 400 Million then it would of doubled it's budget. That's not counting DVD and TV rights. Also why are people shocked it lost to Madagascar III? The family market has been dry all summer, Families had really no real Animated film to love. MIB3 and The Avengers took most of the family dollars this summer. MAD3 is benefiting for being the first major animated film of the summer. "Brave" is going to clean up next weekend too cause families are starving for something right now. Prometheus is a R-rated Sci-Fi Horror/Thriller, it's audience was limited from the gate, yet it had a top 10 R-rated opening ever and the Highest R-rated opening in June. It's doing quite well.
The budget was like 124 million or something due to UK tax credits. Someone before said advertising was probably 30 million. Why is it suddenly jumping to 50 million?
I'm still going with anything over 300 million means a sequel. Not quite convinced other wise so far.
Made $2,193,399 on Wednesday for a total of $96,623,639 Domestic and $227,182,938 Worldwide
Quote from: Prime113 on Jun 21, 2012, 07:33:25 PM
Made $2,193,399 on Wednesday for a total of $96,623,639 Domestic and $227,182,938 Worldwide
I say it will finish betweem $125m and $135m in the US. While finishing with a total between $280m and $310m worldwide.
World wide will easily break $300 million as Prometheus still has territories to come. It's also held well overseas (3 weekends at top of the charts in the UK at least).
With domestic probably settling around $130 million, Prometheus would only need another $40 million foreign to break $300 and it did that much just last week. I think It'll end closer a $350 finish when all the money is in.
$40m will come just from Germany and Japan combined. If it breaks over $350m then it'll surpass X-Men: First Class, if it's gonna earn above $385 then it'll surpass latest Star Trek - which would be a very respectable result, right? Personally I'm predicting $415m in total, because it's doing at least as good as Star Trek in most territories and in some SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER (like in Russia - $11m vs just $4m earned by Star Trek there).
Wanna bet ???
It's important to remember that Star Trek was quite the domestic success though. However in terms of foreign Prometheus has already made more money. :P
Quote from: Cybercat on Jun 21, 2012, 02:57:36 PM
Quote from: Aquarius8 on Jun 21, 2012, 01:07:24 AM
Quote from: shadowedge on Jun 20, 2012, 04:27:33 AM
So in general how much money does a film need to make in the box office to be successful enough for the production company to order a sequel?
Lets say this hypothetical film had a budget of an even $100 Million plus costs for advertising.
Well Theater Owners and Studio split the profits. Studios get a larger profit share for the opening weeks but overall the Budget for this was about 130, let's throw in another 50 for marketing. If it grosses over 400 Million then it would of doubled it's budget. That's not counting DVD and TV rights. Also why are people shocked it lost to Madagascar III? The family market has been dry all summer, Families had really no real Animated film to love. MIB3 and The Avengers took most of the family dollars this summer. MAD3 is benefiting for being the first major animated film of the summer. "Brave" is going to clean up next weekend too cause families are starving for something right now. Prometheus is a R-rated Sci-Fi Horror/Thriller, it's audience was limited from the gate, yet it had a top 10 R-rated opening ever and the Highest R-rated opening in June. It's doing quite well.
The budget was like 124 million or something due to UK tax credits. Someone before said advertising was probably 30 million. Why is it suddenly jumping to 50 million?
I'm still going with anything over 300 million means a sequel. Not quite convinced other wise so far.
I was just giving a rough estimate of the budget and marketing. 350 Million is a Lock. 400 Million is not out of the question. It will be past 300 Million by the end of this weekend or close to it. So I can't see how anyone can say "Prometheus" is not a success. Here are the highest grossing R Rated film Domestic. Prometheus is sitting at 121 right now:
http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/domestic/mpaa.htm (http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/domestic/mpaa.htm)
Also to put in Context just how limited Rated R audiences are. Here are the Top 10 Highest Grossing R-rated Movies Worldwide:
1. The Matrix Reloaded WB $742.1 $281.6 37.9% $460.6 62.1% 2003
2. The Passion of the Christ NM $611.9 $370.8 60.6% $241.1 39.4% 2004^
3. The Hangover Part II WB $581.5 $254.5 43.8% $327.0 56.2% 2011
4. Terminator 2: Judgment Day TriS $519.8 $204.8 39.4% $315.0 60.6% 1991
5. Troy WB $497.4 $133.4 26.8% $364.0 73.2% 2004
6. Saving Private Ryan DW $481.8 $216.5 44.9% $265.3 55.1% 1998
7. The Hangover WB $467.5 $277.3 59.3% $190.2 40.7% 2009
8. The Matrix WB $463.5 $171.5 37.0% $292.0 63.0% 1999
9. Gladiator DW $457.6 $187.7 41.0% $269.9 59.0% 2000
10. The Last Samurai WB $456.8 $111.1 24.3% $345.6 75.7% 2003
Again if "Prometheus" does over 400 Million WW it will be a success when you are looking at R-rated History.
Does anybody know how often Boxofficemojo updates foreign receipts?
Once a week, I believe.
BoxOfficeMojo predicts a 10.7 million dollar weekend, and a 4th place finish.
http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3467&p=.htm (http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3467&p=.htm)
I wonder what the Friday intake was?
So it's on for a $10 million or above weekend if it follows the previous two weekends trends (low Fri, high Sat and Sun hold).
Today's showings of the Prometheus at my work: almost full house. I was very happy about that :)
Prometheus has now passed $100 million in the domestic box office. \m/
Quote from: Prime113 on Jun 23, 2012, 09:43:21 PM
Prometheus has now passed $100 million in the domestic box office. \m/
This is a pretty amazing achievement. There are not many "R" rated movies
that get close to that anymore.
Bring on the sequel.
Quote from: Prime113 on Jun 23, 2012, 09:43:21 PM
Prometheus has now passed $100 million in the domestic box office. \m/
Good good good
So by the end of this today the film would have surpassed AvP and Alien Resurrections adjusted domestic totals to become 3rd in the Alien franchise with a few weeks still yet to come.
It wont touch the adjusted domestic totals of Alien and Aliens though. Still a woop.
So it's a $10 million weekend (possibly more when the actuals come in... it has been for the past couple).
World Wide is currently at $260 million with key territories such as Japan, Germany, Italy and Spain still yet to open (China does not have a date).
Officially the first in the series to break $100 million. Nice. :)
Total Lifetime Grosses
Domestic: $108,547,000 41.6%
+ Foreign: $152,400,000 58.4%
= Worldwide: $260,947,000
Approaching 300 Million :)
It's gotta make just a bit more to make back its budget stateside. If that happens, I imagine it'd be hard for the studio heads not to greenlight it.
In two weeks or less, the budget would have been made back, no problem.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Jun 25, 2012, 05:48:21 PM
In two weeks or less, the budget would have been made back, no problem.
Not necessarily. The budget quoted does not necessarily reflect advertising costs, which are likely sizable considering all the viral marketing and worldwide publicity before release. PROMETHEUS' box office so far has not been that great when you compare it against its total budget. Unless the home video release sells very, very well, don't expect a sequel.
Advertising costs are never counted against a films budget though. Also, viral marketing likely costs next to nothing. They did however seem to shell out quite a bit of conventional advertising time on TV.
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Jun 25, 2012, 08:02:01 PM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Jun 25, 2012, 05:48:21 PM
In two weeks or less, the budget would have been made back, no problem.
Not necessarily. The budget quoted does not necessarily reflect advertising costs, which are likely sizable considering all the viral marketing and worldwide publicity before release. PROMETHEUS' box office so far has not been that great when you compare it against its total budget. Unless the home video release sells very, very well, don't expect a sequel.
It's nearly made back its budget domestically, and made roughly the same outside of the US. That should cover most of the ad costs. Then there's DVD, merchandising etc.
And don't forget that this was up against some pretty stiff box office competition.
This whole comparing against total budget and advertising costs has become an entirely new thing altogether. Films like X Men First Class and Star Trek wouldn't be receiving sequels if that was truly the case. Also, it seems to be forgetting that a portion of the advertising budget goes towards sub sections of the same media empire (fox owned magazines, newspapers, television channels, cinemas etc.). I guess people are too concerned twisting the stats to make something sound overly positive/ negative than it seems.
I mean if we look at X Men First Class we see a film that cost $30 million more than Prometheus and ended with a total gross that won't be all that far off ($350 million). This is despite having a PG13 rating and a profitable series behind it.
Prometheus is an R Rated adult sci fi film following 4 consecutive failures and is essentially the reboot of a series that has never really been the cash cow people seem to think it is. Even with it's "disappointing" domestic box office performance Prometheus is the 3rd highest grossing film in a 7 film series. And that's after adjusting for inflation. It's no runaway success but it'll be into profit by the time the home market release comes about and Fox have always wanted to push the series forward (just as they are doing X-Men despite Wolverine and First Class hitting similar numbers in relation to their budgets). I don't see why a sequel is out of reach in the slightest.
It's no use talking about Hollywood budgets and "breaking even". These are the same types of folks who claimed the "Lord of the Rings" movie trilogy didn't make a profit which prompted Peter Jackson and New Line to get in legal tassles over. New Line ultimately paid Jackson big money to settle the issue.
I'm sure there are some folks in Hollywood that would have you believe James Cameron's "Avatar" still hasn't turned a profit. ::)
Most "informed" ie; not braindead folks say that in order for a movie to "break even" it must earn back its production budget plus another 40-50% on top of that for advertising and print duplication, etc. I tend to think that any movie doubling its budget is successful.
"Prometheus" with it's worldwide total has already come close to breaking even and will end up with a nice profit for Twentieth Century Fox. Add in the eventual 3-D Blu-Ray, Blu-Ray, DVD and digital download copies when it goes on sale for the home market and it's looking even better.
Day 1 for the 3-D Blu-Ray release for me btw. :)
I suspect we'll hear Fox making an official sequel announcement before the end of the year. ;D
Who cares how much money it makes? Jeez, how many times have I seen comments on this very forum:
"I've just got back from seeing Prometheus for the 5th time and it really did suck..."
Yeah, like Ridley and Lindelof arent milking the gullability of Alien fans...
Prometheus deserves a sequel about as much as 'Superman Returns'.
Quote from: 180924609 on Jun 25, 2012, 10:36:51 PM
Who cares how much money it makes? Jeez, how many times have I seen comments on this very forum:
"I've just got back from seeing Prometheus for the 5th time and it really did suck..."
Yeah, like Ridley and Lindelof arent milking the gullability of Alien fans...
Prometheus deserves a sequel about as much as 'Superman Returns'.
*Gull
ibility.
Honestly Greenlighting a sequel is quite a tough decision on this one.
the numbers are not so good, and let's be honest the majority of feedbacks are negative.
Even if Prometheus turns a decent profit (i'm not sure it will), a sequel is very likely to bomb.
Quote from: 180924609 on Jun 25, 2012, 10:36:51 PM
Who cares how much money it makes? Jeez, how many times have I seen comments on this very forum:
"I've just got back from seeing Prometheus for the 5th time and it really did suck..."
I don't know. How many times have you seen that exact comment?
Also, if you truly do not care about the discussion of box office return, what on earth compelled you to even venture into this 23 page thread on that very subject? I guess we just had to know you don't care. ::)
The majority of the feedback isn't negative.
And this thread often veers off-topic. They all do...
Quote from: Promethée on Jun 25, 2012, 11:05:46 PM
Honestly Greenlighting a sequel is quite a tough decision on this one.
the numbers are not so good, and let's be honest the majority of feedbacks are negative.
Even if Prometheus turns a decent profit (i'm not sure it will), a sequel is very likely to bomb.
Look again...the majority of the feedback is overwhelmingly positive....and....a sequel would bomb? Way kind of logic is that?
It's made $260m on a $130m budget, which isn't anything special considering the hype prior to release, and won't make a great deal more. They're unlikely to make a sequel on those figures unless they cut the budget right back. Which would be difficult seeing as $130m wasn't a massive budget for this sort of film either (Madagascar 3 and Brave cost more - which still baffles me).
The reception has been pretty positive without being glowing.
Saying a sequel would bomb apropos of nothing is dumb.
QuotePrometheus is an R Rated adult sci fi film following 4 consecutive failures and is essentially the reboot of a series that has never really been the cash cow people seem to think it is. Even with it's "disappointing" domestic box office performance Prometheus is the 3rd highest grossing film in a 7 film series. And that's after adjusting for inflation.
Alien3 tripled its money.
Resurrection more than doubled its money.
AvP nearly tripled its money.
AvP:Poo tripled its money.
What are these "failures" of which you speak?
In terms of budget vs box office, Prometheus might catch up to Resurrection.
Quote from: Gazz on Jun 25, 2012, 09:57:47 PM
This whole comparing against total budget and advertising costs has become an entirely new thing altogether. Films like X Men First Class and Star Trek wouldn't be receiving sequels if that was truly the case. Also, it seems to be forgetting that a portion of the advertising budget goes towards sub sections of the same media empire (fox owned magazines, newspapers, television channels, cinemas etc.). I guess people are too concerned twisting the stats to make something sound overly positive/ negative than it seems.
I mean if we look at X Men First Class we see a film that cost $30 million more than Prometheus and ended with a total gross that won't be all that far off ($350 million). This is despite having a PG13 rating and a profitable series behind it.
Prometheus is an R Rated adult sci fi film following 4 consecutive failures and is essentially the reboot of a series that has never really been the cash cow people seem to think it is. Even with it's "disappointing" domestic box office performance Prometheus is the 3rd highest grossing film in a 7 film series. And that's after adjusting for inflation. It's no runaway success but it'll be into profit by the time the home market release comes about and Fox have always wanted to push the series forward (just as they are doing X-Men despite Wolverine and First Class hitting similar numbers in relation to their budgets). I don't see why a sequel is out of reach in the slightest.
AvP was actually a big success. I read articles about how it was one of Fox's most profitable films of 2004. It's budget was actually only $45mill, Anderson's a master craftsman in terms of making small look big.
Quote from: SM on Jun 26, 2012, 04:16:41 AM
AvP:Poo tripled its money.
Really? Holy crap. It seriously did that well? I always thought it bombed massively.
No need to panic, even in the worst case scenario it is guaranteed for Prometheus to earn $360m going by the potential of markets which still haven't premiered it.
My own stupid fault but I meant failures in terms of public reception (at least in Fox's eyes according to the documentaries) and have used that phrase earlier in the thread. If each one would have bombed there wouldn't be any such sequels. However the sequels had been slowly declining in box office since Alien 3 with AvP providing a slight blip. And although AvP-R tripled it's meagre budget it still dropped half of it's domestic potential from AvP ($80 million vs $41 million).
I saw Prometheus as an attempt to reinvigorate a franchise that public no longer thought of as being quality (as with Batman Begins) but nonetheless this doesn't change that much like Fox are doing with X Men, the Alien series is a franchise that Fox have always pushed on with. Also that Prometheus has posted the best domestic tally since Alien 3 when adjusted for inflation. The box office is also not yet up with key territories such as Germany, Italy, Spain and Japan yet to open. $260 million is the current total but far from final.
Quote from: SuicideDoors on Jun 26, 2012, 04:45:11 AM
Quote from: Gazz on Jun 25, 2012, 09:57:47 PM
This whole comparing against total budget and advertising costs has become an entirely new thing altogether. Films like X Men First Class and Star Trek wouldn't be receiving sequels if that was truly the case. Also, it seems to be forgetting that a portion of the advertising budget goes towards sub sections of the same media empire (fox owned magazines, newspapers, television channels, cinemas etc.). I guess people are too concerned twisting the stats to make something sound overly positive/ negative than it seems.
I mean if we look at X Men First Class we see a film that cost $30 million more than Prometheus and ended with a total gross that won't be all that far off ($350 million). This is despite having a PG13 rating and a profitable series behind it.
Prometheus is an R Rated adult sci fi film following 4 consecutive failures and is essentially the reboot of a series that has never really been the cash cow people seem to think it is. Even with it's "disappointing" domestic box office performance Prometheus is the 3rd highest grossing film in a 7 film series. And that's after adjusting for inflation. It's no runaway success but it'll be into profit by the time the home market release comes about and Fox have always wanted to push the series forward (just as they are doing X-Men despite Wolverine and First Class hitting similar numbers in relation to their budgets). I don't see why a sequel is out of reach in the slightest.
AvP was actually a big success. I read articles about how it was one of Fox's most profitable films of 2004. It's budget was actually only $45mill, Anderson's a master craftsman in terms of making small look big.
Everywhere I read I see AvP's budget as being $70 million. I also remember reading around the time that one of the sets burnt down during an explosion though that could have just been fluff.
It is abundantly clear that Prometheus has been a success. It's both a financial success, earning more than they probably expected, and a critical success without having stellar reviews. I expect Fox are effing delighted with how it's gone.
But for those who didn't get their personal pet Alien fantasy movie, nothing will ever make up for the crushing disappointment. *shrugs* Live with it. Some of us are very happy with the movie and look forward to the (I suspect inevitable) sequel announcement.
Quote from: Gazz on Jun 26, 2012, 09:46:07 AM
My own stupid fault but I meant failures in terms of public reception (at least in Fox's eyes according to the documentaries) and have used that phrase earlier in the thread. If each one would have bombed there wouldn't be any such sequels. However the sequels had been slowly declining in box office since Alien 3 with AvP providing a slight blip. And although AvP-R tripled it's meagre budget it still dropped half of it's domestic potential from AvP ($80 million vs $41 million).
I saw Prometheus as an attempt to reinvigorate a franchise that public no longer thought of as being quality (as with Batman Begins) but nonetheless this doesn't change that much like Fox are doing with X Men, the Alien series is a franchise that Fox have always pushed on with. Also that Prometheus has posted the best domestic tally since Alien 3 when adjusted for inflation. The box office is also not yet up with key territories such as Germany, Italy, Spain and Japan yet to open. $260 million is the current total but far from final.
Quote from: SuicideDoors on Jun 26, 2012, 04:45:11 AM
Quote from: Gazz on Jun 25, 2012, 09:57:47 PM
This whole comparing against total budget and advertising costs has become an entirely new thing altogether. Films like X Men First Class and Star Trek wouldn't be receiving sequels if that was truly the case. Also, it seems to be forgetting that a portion of the advertising budget goes towards sub sections of the same media empire (fox owned magazines, newspapers, television channels, cinemas etc.). I guess people are too concerned twisting the stats to make something sound overly positive/ negative than it seems.
I mean if we look at X Men First Class we see a film that cost $30 million more than Prometheus and ended with a total gross that won't be all that far off ($350 million). This is despite having a PG13 rating and a profitable series behind it.
Prometheus is an R Rated adult sci fi film following 4 consecutive failures and is essentially the reboot of a series that has never really been the cash cow people seem to think it is. Even with it's "disappointing" domestic box office performance Prometheus is the 3rd highest grossing film in a 7 film series. And that's after adjusting for inflation. It's no runaway success but it'll be into profit by the time the home market release comes about and Fox have always wanted to push the series forward (just as they are doing X-Men despite Wolverine and First Class hitting similar numbers in relation to their budgets). I don't see why a sequel is out of reach in the slightest.
AvP was actually a big success. I read articles about how it was one of Fox's most profitable films of 2004. It's budget was actually only $45mill, Anderson's a master craftsman in terms of making small look big.
Everywhere I read I see AvP's budget as being $70 million. I also remember reading around the time that one of the sets burnt down during an explosion though that could have just been fluff.
That's a figure pulled out of thin air (I've seen it quoted as that too). But in actuality it cost relatively little for a mid-size blockbuster. Anderson says on the AvP commentary "it cost less than Alien 3" and there's a Variety article somewhere where a Fox exec sings it's praises and quotes "45". Plus, it was filmed in Prague, which back in 2004 was cheap as f**k.
Quote from: Promethée on Jun 25, 2012, 11:05:46 PM
Honestly Greenlighting a sequel is quite a tough decision on this one.
the numbers are not so good, and let's be honest the majority of feedbacks are negative.
Even if Prometheus turns a decent profit (i'm not sure it will), a sequel is very likely to bomb.
I'm not one for hankering after pointless sequels... but I'm not sure where you are getting your facts from??? Box office returns are very, very good and the movie has a very healthy A.I from aundiences and critics.
Quote from: SuicideDoors on Jun 26, 2012, 01:56:53 PM
Quote from: Gazz on Jun 26, 2012, 09:46:07 AM
My own stupid fault but I meant failures in terms of public reception (at least in Fox's eyes according to the documentaries) and have used that phrase earlier in the thread. If each one would have bombed there wouldn't be any such sequels. However the sequels had been slowly declining in box office since Alien 3 with AvP providing a slight blip. And although AvP-R tripled it's meagre budget it still dropped half of it's domestic potential from AvP ($80 million vs $41 million).
I saw Prometheus as an attempt to reinvigorate a franchise that public no longer thought of as being quality (as with Batman Begins) but nonetheless this doesn't change that much like Fox are doing with X Men, the Alien series is a franchise that Fox have always pushed on with. Also that Prometheus has posted the best domestic tally since Alien 3 when adjusted for inflation. The box office is also not yet up with key territories such as Germany, Italy, Spain and Japan yet to open. $260 million is the current total but far from final.
Quote from: SuicideDoors on Jun 26, 2012, 04:45:11 AM
Quote from: Gazz on Jun 25, 2012, 09:57:47 PM
This whole comparing against total budget and advertising costs has become an entirely new thing altogether. Films like X Men First Class and Star Trek wouldn't be receiving sequels if that was truly the case. Also, it seems to be forgetting that a portion of the advertising budget goes towards sub sections of the same media empire (fox owned magazines, newspapers, television channels, cinemas etc.). I guess people are too concerned twisting the stats to make something sound overly positive/ negative than it seems.
I mean if we look at X Men First Class we see a film that cost $30 million more than Prometheus and ended with a total gross that won't be all that far off ($350 million). This is despite having a PG13 rating and a profitable series behind it.
Prometheus is an R Rated adult sci fi film following 4 consecutive failures and is essentially the reboot of a series that has never really been the cash cow people seem to think it is. Even with it's "disappointing" domestic box office performance Prometheus is the 3rd highest grossing film in a 7 film series. And that's after adjusting for inflation. It's no runaway success but it'll be into profit by the time the home market release comes about and Fox have always wanted to push the series forward (just as they are doing X-Men despite Wolverine and First Class hitting similar numbers in relation to their budgets). I don't see why a sequel is out of reach in the slightest.
AvP was actually a big success. I read articles about how it was one of Fox's most profitable films of 2004. It's budget was actually only $45mill, Anderson's a master craftsman in terms of making small look big.
Everywhere I read I see AvP's budget as being $70 million. I also remember reading around the time that one of the sets burnt down during an explosion though that could have just been fluff.
That's a figure pulled out of thin air (I've seen it quoted as that too). But in actuality it cost relatively little for a mid-size blockbuster. Anderson says on the AvP commentary "it cost less than Alien 3" and there's a Variety article somewhere where a Fox exec sings it's praises and quotes "45". Plus, it was filmed in Prague, which back in 2004 was cheap as f**k.
But is that cheaper than Alien 3 when adjusted for inflation (A3 had a $50 million budget in 92) . Honestly, I'm all up for placing my faith in that but I can't find any box office or film stat website that quotes the budget anything under $60 million.
I want a sequel. I want a sequel. I want a sequel. I want a sequel. I want a sequel. I want a sequel. I want a sequel. I want a sequel. I want a sequel. I want a sequel. I want a sequel. I want a sequel. I want a sequel. I want a sequel. I want a sequel. I want a sequel. I want a sequel. I want a sequel.
I must have not heard you correctly. Do you want a sequel?
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Jun 26, 2012, 03:09:00 PM
I must have not heard you correctly. Do you want a sequel?
Only one more, please.
I have the impression that actually the box office is driven more by the repeat viewers than new ones. No wonder that Prometheus is doing well as the audience keeps coming back to watch it to connect the dots left by the script writer :laugh:
Quote from: Darth Vile on Jun 26, 2012, 01:59:56 PM
I'm not one for hankering after pointless sequels... but I'm not sure where you are getting your facts from??? Box office returns are very, very good and the movie has a very healthy A.I from aundiences and critics.
Well, outside of the alien/ridley fanboy sphere let me assure you that a lot of people are tearing the movie apart.
About the numbers i can't tell since i'm not familiar with fox's financial balance, but according to past box office history,
those numbers are at best decent, but far from huge success.
I hope we get a sequel, and that they won't make the same mistakes.
Hell I would say it's the fanboy sphere that's been most divisive in regards to the film. Mixed-positive seems to be the overall response outside of the nerd-base I would say. At least where I am but then the film is way over performing over here (it's 3rd best of the year at the box office film here in the UK).
Quotethose numbers are at best decent, but far from huge success.
That's exactly what I would call these numbers. Decent for the series and rating but it's no runaway train at the box office.
Quote from: Promethée on Jun 26, 2012, 04:11:39 PM
Quote from: Darth Vile on Jun 26, 2012, 01:59:56 PM
I'm not one for hankering after pointless sequels... but I'm not sure where you are getting your facts from??? Box office returns are very, very good and the movie has a very healthy A.I from aundiences and critics.
Well, outside of the alien/ridley fanboy sphere let me assure you that a lot of people are tearing the movie apart.
About the numbers i can't tell since i'm not familiar with fox's financial balance, but according to past box office history,
those numbers are at best decent, but far from huge success.
I hope we get a sequel, and that they won't make the same mistakes.
Look at the user rating for imdb and rotten tomatoes, the majority is positive, stop projecting your own dislike and calling it the majority, your opinion is worth no more than anyone elses.
Quote from: Promethée on Jun 26, 2012, 04:11:39 PM
Quote from: Darth Vile on Jun 26, 2012, 01:59:56 PM
I'm not one for hankering after pointless sequels... but I'm not sure where you are getting your facts from??? Box office returns are very, very good and the movie has a very healthy A.I from aundiences and critics.
Well, outside of the alien/ridley fanboy sphere let me assure you that a lot of people are tearing the movie apart.
About the numbers i can't tell since i'm not familiar with fox's financial balance, but according to past box office history,
those numbers are at best decent, but far from huge success.
I hope we get a sequel, and that they won't make the same mistakes.
There really isn't that many people 'tearing it apart'... and as far as box office is concerned - the studio are really only interested in the bottom line i.e. profit. I can assure you that Fox are happy with how well
Prometheus is performing and the fact that they are well into very good profit territory now (excluding potential dvd/Blu-Ray sales... and the usual 'back-catalogue' business a new movie brings).
Besides, there's still several major markets it hasn't opened in yet theatrically.
Quote from: Divpax on Jun 26, 2012, 04:24:16 PM
Quote from: Promethée on Jun 26, 2012, 04:11:39 PM
Quote from: Darth Vile on Jun 26, 2012, 01:59:56 PM
I'm not one for hankering after pointless sequels... but I'm not sure where you are getting your facts from??? Box office returns are very, very good and the movie has a very healthy A.I from aundiences and critics.
Well, outside of the alien/ridley fanboy sphere let me assure you that a lot of people are tearing the movie apart.
About the numbers i can't tell since i'm not familiar with fox's financial balance, but according to past box office history,
those numbers are at best decent, but far from huge success.
I hope we get a sequel, and that they won't make the same mistakes.
Look at the user rating for imdb and rotten tomatoes, the majority is positive, stop projecting your own dislike and calling it the majority, your opinion is worth no more than anyone elses.
It's funny people have been using this argument for almost decades on the INTERNET.
"The Majority" of rotten tomatoes/IMDB is part of the "Minority" on the INTERNET.
I can't think of a friend who vote there or even know its existence and even if I know both of them, I don't vote. ::)
Those websites mostly concentrates as fan service and infos that any casual wouldn't dare to try searching.
Sure it's not only that, but it's definitely not a "majority" as a whole.
Quote from: Le Celticant on Jun 26, 2012, 08:29:12 PM
Quote from: Divpax on Jun 26, 2012, 04:24:16 PM
Quote from: Promethée on Jun 26, 2012, 04:11:39 PM
Quote from: Darth Vile on Jun 26, 2012, 01:59:56 PM
I'm not one for hankering after pointless sequels... but I'm not sure where you are getting your facts from??? Box office returns are very, very good and the movie has a very healthy A.I from aundiences and critics.
Well, outside of the alien/ridley fanboy sphere let me assure you that a lot of people are tearing the movie apart.
About the numbers i can't tell since i'm not familiar with fox's financial balance, but according to past box office history,
those numbers are at best decent, but far from huge success.
I hope we get a sequel, and that they won't make the same mistakes.
Look at the user rating for imdb and rotten tomatoes, the majority is positive, stop projecting your own dislike and calling it the majority, your opinion is worth no more than anyone elses.
It's funny people have been using this argument for almost decades on the INTERNET.
"The Majority" of rotten tomatoes/IMDB is part of the "Minority" on the INTERNET.
I can't think of a friend who vote there or even know its existence and even if I know both of them, I don't vote. ::)
Those websites mostly concentrates as fan service and infos that any casual wouldn't dare to try searching.
Sure it's not only that, but it's definitely not a "majority" as a whole.
I can't speak for IMDB, but Rotten Tomatoes aggregates numerous media/periodical reviews. So whilst it can't guarantee anything in terms of actual quality, it can at least give you a high level review consensus.
108million? The movie should be a failure in Fox's eyes. Overseas profit means nothing in terms for sequels. It cost 120 - 130 Budget wise. You gotta make that back in the U.S. Ridley Scott HAS to direct it to. I doubt he has any plans.
Whatever. AvP make 80mil domestic. Lol.
QuoteReally? Holy crap. It seriously did that well? I always thought it bombed massively.
Bombed critically.
Had the benefit of being a cheap production though, thus making it easier to make it's money back.
QuoteIt's funny people have been using this argument for almost decades on the INTERNET.
"The Majority" of rotten tomatoes/IMDB is part of the "Minority" on the INTERNET.
It's not funny at all.
After box office, those stats on places like IMDB and RT give an overall consensus on how a film was recieved by critics and punters (assuming there's enough votes for it to be legit). It's somethnig that's quantifiable.
What's funny is people falling back on non-quantifiable anecdotal bullshit like "I didn't like [film x] and neither did my friends, therefore
everyone didn't like it".
QuoteOverseas profit means nothing in terms for sequels.
:laugh:
Alien Resurrection says "Hi".
I still can not beleave people think that overseas profits 'don't matter' -what planet are you people from?!
Don't be too hard. This forum would be pretty barren if people actually thought rationally before posting...
Yeah, Alien Resurrection is a good example, tanked domestically, smashed it overseas, took SEVEN years for the franchise to return (in the form of a spin-off not a continuation). It's not that Fox won't care that Prometheus is on course for $200mill internationally, it's just that they'll receive 40-50% of it after they've paid off the theatres etc.
There is a good possibility that the budget is lower then 110 because I remember hearing that Ridley and co got tax breaks for production. IDK what marketing and all that cost? Anyway the film looks to be doing good at bo. Anytime you can double your money is good, right?
Quote from: SuicideDoors on Jun 27, 2012, 05:47:40 AM
Yeah, Alien Resurrection is a good example, tanked domestically, smashed it overseas, took SEVEN years for the franchise to return (in the form of a spin-off not a continuation).
I think you missed the point of SM bringing up
Resurrection.
Alien 3 did a poor job domestically, smashed it internationally, and got us
Resurrection.
And it took seven years to go from
Alien to
Aliens.
Yus.
QuoteThere is a good possibility that the budget is lower then 110 because I remember hearing that Ridley and co got tax breaks for production. IDK what marketing and all that cost? Anyway the film looks to be doing good at bo. Anytime you can double your money is good, right?
It's better than not doubling your money, but it's not exactly blockbuster either.
Budget is reportedly $120-130m. Conservatively speaking chuck on another $50m for promotions, then (also conservatively) add another $50m to the box office for home media and other merch.
Well by looking and thinking about those^ figures/dollars, it looks as if it will be close to making decent profit. Someone said something about it having a few more markets to open up in. That could maybe help it get to 300 mil world wide total. I'd say we'll get a sequel somewhere down the road, maybe four or five years.
It could make a bit in Japan, but the other territories won't do huge business. It might get to $300m.
Based on that I can't imagine we'll get a sequel straightaway. At least not without a reduced budget.
Quote from: SiL on Jun 27, 2012, 06:32:16 AM
Quote from: SuicideDoors on Jun 27, 2012, 05:47:40 AM
Yeah, Alien Resurrection is a good example, tanked domestically, smashed it overseas, took SEVEN years for the franchise to return (in the form of a spin-off not a continuation).
I think you missed the point of SM bringing up Resurrection. Alien 3 did a poor job domestically, smashed it internationally, and got us Resurrection.
And it took seven years to go from Alien to Aliens.
Of course, my bad!
Quote from: SM on Jun 27, 2012, 06:55:37 AM
It could make a bit in Japan, but the other territories won't do huge business. It might get to $300m.
Yeah, unless it does what it did in the UK I can see it making about $30 million give or take from those 4 territories (that is judging on the performance of the most recent films in those locations).
But I'd say there's still $15-$17 million left in the domestic box office to gain (looking at the decline with other films) and another $20 million overseas before any of those territories open. I don't think $300 million will be hard to get to but i do think it'll be the last milestone the film crosses.
^^^ That sounds really good to me. Also there will be home video rentals and sales on top of that. I can't see how a sequel wouldn't get made, when all is said and done.
Also like to know what territories it has to open up in??? I think Japan, China?
I think this is the kind of film that will clean up on home video front. I think it could gross another $200 million on DVD & bluray worldwide, maybe more. Especially with an extended sequence edition. I say theatrical gross would hit $350 million, plus another $200 million on bluray, TV rights plus cable rights, total : $600 million (not counting the merchandising). If they keep the marketing cost low, this movie can make a tidy profit at the end.
PS: What kind of things the big studios spend on marketing? Jesus, does it cost them $150 million to print one-sheet posters? To book the movie stars on Jay Leno? Tell me! They should just scrap this marketing spending altogether!
PROMETHEUS is banned in China because it promotes alternate religious thinking. Seriously?
They were also considering banning MIB 3 because time travel is a dangerous idea. But as it turned out, MIB3 is allowed to be screened in China and gross an excellent $75 million so far. Also, TRANSFORMERS 3, a science fiction about space faring giant beings grossed $145 million in that country. I think Fox should push for PROMETHEUS to be released in China where the space program has become a recent technological milestone for the people there.
Quote from: SM on Jun 27, 2012, 06:55:37 AM
It could make a bit in Japan, but the other territories won't do huge business. It might get to $300m.
Based on that I can't imagine we'll get a sequel straightaway. At least not without a reduced budget.
Germany, Italy, Spain, and Japan will account for considerable gross (at least $30m combined), plus especially Brazil and Mexico (and to a lesser degree) Venezuela which had their debuts not too long ago and has been tracked by Box Office Mojo only recently. That will amount to another $15m at least (it already earned around $13m in Brazil and Mexico at this point, plus Venezuela could get another $2m). Poland, Austria, and Switzerland should generate $15m combined too.
So, at the very least it will get $330m (considering it's nearing the end of its theatrical run in the US but it could still get some of the last bucks). Not bad for a...human.
Whilst its takings in the US are a little undesirable, in mine and Ridleys native country, the magnificently shit UK, it's been something of a big hit. 3 weeks at number 1. It's been a proper adult blockbuster.
About $1.4 million yesterday. Pretty decent. Still holding at 4th place, though how Abe Lincoln Vampire Hunter is making more is beyond me.
So the total domestic gross will be similar to the one of Super 8's and should surpass District 9 and Green Lantern while doing significantly better internationally than all of them.
Quote from: KampZ on Jun 26, 2012, 10:58:55 PM
You gotta make that back in the U.S. Ridley Scott HAS to direct it to. I doubt he has any plans.
Tell that to GI Joe: Rise of Cobra which is getting a sequel when the movie did poorly domestically ::). Same with Terminator 3 which barely made back it's budget in the US but was one of the highest grossing movies of 2003.
The DVD/Blu-ray is the profit on this one. Even Fox knows it, and I think was teasing it with the date at the end of film being the release date for the DVD/Blu-Ray.
$200 Million in sales and cable/netflix deals and then book and toys on top of that...
Quote from: fiveways on Jun 27, 2012, 10:23:28 PM
The DVD/Blu-ray is the profit on this one. Even Fox knows it, and I think was teasing it with the date at the end of film being the release date for the DVD/Blu-Ray.
I'm not so sure if that's going to be the Blu Ray date...October 11th, 2012 is a Thursday, but Blu rays are usually released on Tuesdays...
Maybe Fox has had this massive scheme going on for awhile. Maybe October 11th is when they will announce the Sequel...
...
I don't know, maybe grasping for straws..? :D
It would be awesome if they are really trying to do more with the Alien Universe, if indeed the Oct. 11 date is not just for the DVD/Blu Ray release.
From another side of things - I think I heard from RagingDragon that October 11th 2012 is when the Weyland Corporation was formed. Now, what that has to do with anything for us, I have no clue.
Quote from: Prime113 on Jun 27, 2012, 10:33:56 PM
From another side of things - I think I heard from RagingDragon that October 11th 2012 is when the Weyland Corporation was formed. Now, what that has to do with anything for us, I have no clue.
Oh, yeah. I vaguely remember that. Hopefully there's more to it than that.
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Jun 27, 2012, 07:36:51 PM
So the total domestic gross will be similar to the one of Super 8's and should surpass District 9 and Green Lantern while doing significantly better internationally than all of them.
Interesting to note that Super 8 cost $50m, District 9 cost $30m, while Green Lantern cost $200m.
Quote from: ShadowPred on Jun 27, 2012, 10:37:30 PM
Quote from: Prime113 on Jun 27, 2012, 10:33:56 PM
From another side of things - I think I heard from RagingDragon that October 11th 2012 is when the Weyland Corporation was formed. Now, what that has to do with anything for us, I have no clue.
Oh, yeah. I vaguely remember that. Hopefully there's more to it than that.
Yep, says that on the Weyland timeline I believe.
If I had to guess, October 11th will give us another viral video, possibly featuring Guy Pearce.
Even if the movie does not make back it's budget domestically then there is always DVD sales. If movies like GI Joe can get a sequel then anything is possible.
GI Joe's a little different. I'm guessing there was a significant enough spike in merch sales added to the box office to justify it. Plus the sequel has a $125m budget (vs. $175 for the first film).
$1.1 million yesterday, for 4th place. Making about a million a day now. Hopefully that can continue for a little while, even during the Spiderman attack.
It will clean up on Home Video-land.
PROMETHEUS 2: Take it! Take my money!
[zero sarcasm mode]
Looks like it doing fine for R-rated sci-fi. It has surpassed similar R-rated District 9 by now, although D9 had a low budget to its advantage. No worries - it'll most likely do well on DVD/BD as well.
Don't care about the box-office specifics though - I'm just happy it's doing well.
Quote from: BLAIN on Jun 29, 2012, 02:08:27 AM
$1.1 million yesterday, for 4th place. Making about a million a day now. Hopefully that can continue for a little while, even during the Spiderman attack.
Not a chance. Spider Man is gonna rip into every other film.
I think the overseas totals at this stage will be where Prometheus will take in the most money. That R-rating hurt them. It really could have been pg-13.
Prometheus is losing screenings in the theater that I work for. It's now only in the IMAX theater. I guess everyone in my town already saw it and have no reason to see it again.
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Jun 29, 2012, 06:42:01 PM
Quote from: BLAIN on Jun 29, 2012, 02:08:27 AM
$1.1 million yesterday, for 4th place. Making about a million a day now. Hopefully that can continue for a little while, even during the Spiderman attack.
Not a chance. Spider Man is gonna rip into every other film.
Spiderman won't be getting my money. How many times can they make that? A double dose of the trailers for it before Prometheus was more than enough.
Same here. Got the normal Spider-Man trailer and then a 5-6 minute trailer with complete scenes from the film before my showing of Prometheus. I'll be going to see it at some point but pretty much everything about the film has been ruined by terrible advertising.
Haven't all of the Alien films fared better internationally anyway?
$300m + with BluRay/DVD to come is pretty good going.
I'm actually wondering whether the greater story of Prometheus might have been better suited to a TV series...
Fox probably hoped for more than $300 million worldwide. Personally, the bogus R-rating cost Prometheus. I think since it was R, and a sci-fi movie, $300 million worldwide isn't awful.
So we're looking at close to $280 by the end of the weekend.
As next weekend is a holiday weekend it should provide a little boost meaning a smaller drop but it's seriously bowing out of theatres now. It can see it ending up at around $125 million domestic ($130 at a real push).
Brave is out, Ted is out, and The Amazing Spider-Man is coming next week, I think. I wouldn't expect very much more from Prometheus, to be brutally honest.
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Jun 30, 2012, 08:14:43 AM
Fox probably hoped for more than $300 million worldwide. Personally, the bogus R-rating cost Prometheus. I think since it was R, and a sci-fi movie, $300 million worldwide isn't awful.
I don't think so. I understand why Ridley wanted to make it a pg13. With all the teen audience it would have easily added another 100 or 200 million to the us boxoffice.But 300 million in this run plus a little bit extra when the other markets will have it's pretty sweet for a r rated movie
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jun 30, 2012, 05:52:52 PM
Brave is out, Ted is out, and The Amazing Spider-Man is coming next week, I think. I wouldn't expect very much more from Prometheus, to be brutally honest.
No, but it'll probably coast on dregs for a while and the holiday weekend should ensure a $2.5-$3 million weekend. I can't see it doing much over $125 but I guess it depends on how long it keeps taking in the dregs.
Quote from: zuzuki on Jun 30, 2012, 06:05:49 PM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Jun 30, 2012, 08:14:43 AM
Fox probably hoped for more than $300 million worldwide. Personally, the bogus R-rating cost Prometheus. I think since it was R, and a sci-fi movie, $300 million worldwide isn't awful.
I don't think so. I understand why Ridley wanted to make it a pg13. With all the teen audience it would have easily added another 100 or 200 million to the us boxoffice.But 300 million in this run plus a little bit extra when the other markets will have it's pretty sweet for a r rated movie
It really wouldn't have.
Made $1,350,000 on Friday at 9th place. :(
Probably headed towards at 5-6 million dollar weekend.
$2.1 million Saturday. Deadline tentatively have it on to make $5.1 million for 7th place which would put it $1 million below Abe Lincoln in it's second weekend. Big ouch for that film.
Well if a sequel is made it will mostly be shot for a PG-13 first and foremost.
I'm not surprise that it drop to #7 since we didn't had many people see the movie on Friday night at my theater. The movie should be gone in the Top 10 in another two weeks.
Wow, so it's at $284 million WW at this point. That's $4 million over what I thought it would do. Another week and a half should see it over $300 million with key territories yet to come.
Also $36 million in the UK alone. I wonder if it'll break over $40.
Quote from: Gazz on Jul 01, 2012, 10:10:15 PM
Wow, so it's at $284 million WW at this point. That's $4 million over what I thought it would do. Another week and a half should see it over $300 million with key territories yet to come.
Also $36 million in the UK alone. I wonder if it'll break over $40.
It'd be one hell of a struggle, it's been out for a month now.
The film's made an eye-widening chunk of change though, despite having a number of major factors stacked against it (not least the extremely mixed critical response; however I'm not convinced the rating is that big a factor).
It's interesting to note that Ridley Scott films tend to perform reasonably well despite an increasingly patchy critical track record, even notoriously dire Robin Hood made $321m (from a baffling $200m budget). Looks like Prometheus will perform roughly on a par with Ridley's other recent tentpoles, it's still got a few major markets yet to open (what genius decided Italy needs to wait till October?).
I think the Euro football tournament has a lot to do with it. Box office has been taking a hit in Euro related countries (even in England when the national team has played) and Fox probably wanted to avoid the tournament altogether, settling on the next best and available release date.
73% on Rotten Tomatoes is "extremely mixed"?
Yeah...this revisionist history is a bit odd. Prometheus released to more or less rave reviews, and a few were mixed and general and palpable audience enthusiasm. Period.
Quote from: SM on Jul 02, 2012, 01:16:55 AM
73% on Rotten Tomatoes is "extremely mixed"?
Fine, maybe "extremely" is a slight overstatement, but yes, it's pretty damn mixed. That's 14% away from a rotten, and the audience reviews aggregate to the same level.
Quote from: Vertigo on Jul 02, 2012, 08:14:36 AM
Quote from: SM on Jul 02, 2012, 01:16:55 AM
73% on Rotten Tomatoes is "extremely mixed"?
Fine, maybe "extremely" is a slight overstatement, but yes, it's pretty damn mixed. That's 14% away from a rotten, and the audience reviews aggregate to the same level.
What are you on about? Fresh is Fresh.
How many major countries don't have it yet?
I see 300-315, WW, tops. Not bad. You know this thing is gonna sell tons of copies on home media.
Germany, Italy, Spain and Japan are the main territories. That's another $30 million at least.
There are about 6 or 7 other minor territories too.
The Hollywood Reporter predicts $4.9 million dollars over the weekend for a 7th place finish.
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Jul 02, 2012, 08:59:58 AM
How many major countries don't have it yet?
I see 300-315, WW, tops. Not bad. You know this thing is gonna sell tons of copies on home media.
Yep. That's the thing with Blu, a lot of people just buy them for the picture quality and sound. I'm one of them. I've got some of the weirdest movie's in my collection but I only bought them because of the quality and the experience on my home cinema.
I'd imagine prometheus will be right up there on the pre-order. Even if you didn't like it, its stunning to look at and if they do the transfer proud it could be one of the best looking Blu's out there.
Quote from: Highland on Jul 02, 2012, 01:04:11 PM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Jul 02, 2012, 08:59:58 AM
How many major countries don't have it yet?
I see 300-315, WW, tops. Not bad. You know this thing is gonna sell tons of copies on home media.
Yep. That's the thing with Blu, a lot of people just buy them for the picture quality and sound. I'm one of them. I've got some of the weirdest movie's in my collection but I only bought them because of the quality and the experience on my home cinema.
I'd imagine prometheus will be right up there on the pre-order. Even if you didn't like it, its stunning to look at and if they do the transfer proud it could be one of the best looking Blu's out there.
I only buy films that benefit from being on Blu-Ray, like action, sci-fi, anything with good visual effects. That shit is to expensive to buy for just looks. I only by movies I like, like Prometheus ;D
Weekend actual from BoxOfficeMojo - $4,921,254 for an 8th place finish.
Pipped for 7th by $5k. :P
Quote from: Gazz on Jul 02, 2012, 08:26:02 PM
Pipped for 7th by $5k. :P
Hmmmm, according to IMDb's charts, Prometheus actually came in 7th place... with 5k more than 8th(Moonrise Kingdom)
Moonrise Kingdom is only in limited release. It's considered a very niche film.
QuoteFine, maybe "extremely" is a slight overstatement, but yes, it's pretty damn mixed. That's 14% away from a rotten, and the audience reviews aggregate to the same level.
You say "14%" like it's "Ooooh - it's almost rated as rotten!!", when it's not even close to that. Ratings in the 50s and 60s are "mixed". This isn't.
I've can only guess what you thought of the film, but are you sure you're not projecting onto a quantifiable statistic?
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Jul 02, 2012, 07:50:35 PM
Quote from: Highland on Jul 02, 2012, 01:04:11 PM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Jul 02, 2012, 08:59:58 AM
How many major countries don't have it yet?
I see 300-315, WW, tops. Not bad. You know this thing is gonna sell tons of copies on home media.
Yep. That's the thing with Blu, a lot of people just buy them for the picture quality and sound. I'm one of them. I've got some of the weirdest movie's in my collection but I only bought them because of the quality and the experience on my home cinema.
I'd imagine prometheus will be right up there on the pre-order. Even if you didn't like it, its stunning to look at and if they do the transfer proud it could be one of the best looking Blu's out there.
I only buy films that benefit from being on Blu-Ray, like action, sci-fi, anything with good visual effects. That shit is to expensive to buy for just looks. I only by movies I like, like Prometheus ;D
Yeah but a film as good looking as this will definitely benefit from being on Blu-ray. People also buy blind. They know nothing about the movie but if it gets a healthy score on the Blu Ray forums (picture/sound wise) they will buy it anyway.
People already frothing over it .... http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=198116 (http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=198116)
All I'm saying is this will shift a lot of copies if they don't butcher the transfer! It's at 86% popularity and a score of 7.8. http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Prometheus-Blu-ray/39475/ (http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Prometheus-Blu-ray/39475/)
Overall people like this movie way more than they hate it. Sure there's a few sprinkles of hate, but that seems to be the norm.
I hope it does well. I'm interested to see if there will be sequel. If not I'm sure there will be a wealth of extras on the disc!
I definitely see a sequel...I just hope Scott is around long enough to do it. He's getting older and who knows WHEN he will get to it...or maybe he will pull a Weyland and live way beyond his years ;)
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Jul 03, 2012, 07:14:52 AM
I definitely see a sequel...I just hope Scott is around long enough to do it. He's getting older and who knows WHEN he will get to it...or maybe he will pull a Weyland and live way beyond his years ;)
I can't see Scott doing it. Not unless he had a blast doing this one and really wants to continue the story. It'll most likely get a handball and a lesser budget. Did the actors sign on? I'm not sure.
Just wanna know - do you think here its made enough to secure a sequel. I ask you guys as you seem to know all the ins and outs of budgets, net profits and margins.
(Slightly OT, did the star Trek reboot make enough for the second to come out - and was 2013 delay down to perhaps not making enough).
It'll end up close/ over $330 million worldwide at the end of the day which is SOLID for an R Rated blockbuster in my eyes and not too far off the performance of X Men First Class which cost more to make and has already secured a sequel. And like X Men I can't see Fox wanting to let go of the Alien series, especially when it still has the potential to make well over $300 million world wide.
The delay for Star Trek had more to do with Paramount waiting on JJ Abrams to finish up on the projects he was working on (Super 8) than the films performance (which was quite fantastic domestically).
By this, are you saying Star Trek did really well (but coulda done better overseas)? And they just waited for the director/right story and script to come along.
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Back to Prom. Good to hear about a sequel. For all its faults...id love to see more.
I would say so, yes. Paramount seemed to be waiting on JJ Abrams before moving forward with the series. I think Star Trek did about as expected on the international market considering how previous films in the series had performed but demolished it's domestic expectations. Star Trek was more interested in setting a new tone and separating itself a part from the films that had come before, much like with Batman Begins. The sequel should do much better.
I feel so too. A little bit of me wished Prometheus had been treated in the same way as the reboot of Star Trek. I know a lot Trekkers were angry about the film - but i really think it was a tight film. Only a few questions came about - not a list that came out of Prometheus. Wrong to bring it up here I suppose - but I think Star Trek was a good example of how to do it (and I'm someone who quite liked Prometheus and the questions/themes it introduces).
I would rather watch Prometheus reboot ::)
Not really a box office number, but I found this kind of interesting. Prometheus only opened in one more theater than AvP:
Prometheus Fox 3,396 $51,050,101 43.2% $15,032 $118,258,102 6/08/12
Alien Vs. Predator Fox 3,395 $38,291,056 47.7% $11,278 $80,282,231 8/13/04
Quote from: robertmartin on Jul 03, 2012, 04:48:27 PM
I feel so too. A little bit of me wished Prometheus had been treated in the same way as the reboot of Star Trek. I know a lot Trekkers were angry about the film - but i really think it was a tight film. Only a few questions came about - not a list that came out of Prometheus. Wrong to bring it up here I suppose - but I think Star Trek was a good example of how to do it (and I'm someone who quite liked Prometheus and the questions/themes it introduces).
Not really... I (as well as many others I'd imagine) could give you a long list of what, IMHO, they didn't get right with the last
Star Trek movie. Not least, the fact that the original
Star Trek (certainly the majority of the movies) were about grande themes... whereas the last movie was just a polished (albeit enjoyable) piece of Hollywood fluff.
But dont you think that's what the problem was with Prometheus - it took on way more than it could chew with regards to themes. As we all know Star Trek is about re-packaging age-old themes that resemble, often or not, philosophical strands of questioning and discourse (only dressed up in spanky Starfleet uniform). And, to reboot the franchise they had to sacrifice some of that element to the Star Trek mantra. To ensure the film secured bums on seats for future sequels. Maybe, just maybe, Prometheus coulda detached some of the big questions surrounding the script. The story and direction of Star Trek (the reboot) for me was pretty airtight. Something you can't quite say the same for Prometheus.
I think both the new Star Trek film and Prometheus come from different places in the sci-fi genre and tried different things entirely with their content.
Prometheus ran with a long held mystery in the Alien franchise and attempted to ask whole new questions of it's own in setting up a parallel mythology to what had come before.
Star Trek was a straight sci-fi blockbuster more concerned with establishing a new twist on classic characters than it was with posing questions and setting up mysteries.
And both succeeded somewhat in achieving their goals in my opinion.
Well. Without going off-topic i seriously dont think Prometheus quite achieved what it set out to do. Whereas Star Trek....(I feel anyways) did.
I almost WISH that Scott went the overly controversial route. I think it would have really made for a better and more financially stout movie.
Quote from: Gazz on Jul 03, 2012, 10:03:52 PM
I think both the new Star Trek film and Prometheus come from different places in the sci-fi genre and tried different things entirely with their content.
Prometheus ran with a long held mystery in the Alien franchise and attempted to ask whole new questions of it's own in setting up a parallel mythology to what had come before.
Star Trek was a straight sci-fi blockbuster more concerned with establishing a new twist on classic characters than it was with posing questions and setting up mysteries.
And both succeeded somewhat in achieving their goals in my opinion.
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Well, it seems it is done making at least a million per week day. :( But, not unexpected, I guess.
$703,412 on Monday.
Quote from: robertmartin on Jul 03, 2012, 10:18:32 PM
Well. Without going off-topic i seriously dont think Prometheus quite achieved what it set out to do. Whereas Star Trek....(I feel anyways) did.
It depends on what your criteria is for its achievement. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the new
Star Trek movie - for what is was... but I think it's as far removed from the original TV series/and movies as was possible. Some may see that as a benefit, but I see it as a big step away from a franchise (although it had had it's day in it's 'Next Generation' format) that was at least trying to be intelligent accessible science fiction.
Prometheus, whilst not coming close to
Alien (for me anyhow) was at least trying to expand that universe by throwing larger ideas out there (even if only addressed in a rudimentary way). Ironically, I actually find
Prometheus closer in spirit to the original
Star Trek (including the 'Next Gen') than JJ Abrams version. But maybe that's my problem... :)
So on the UK box office chart Prometheus actually just climbed from 4th place to 2nd place over the past week with a -25% drop.
It beat The Five-Year Engagement by £5k. :P
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/filmblog/2012/jul/03/ice-age-4-continental-drift-off-box-office-radar (http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/filmblog/2012/jul/03/ice-age-4-continental-drift-off-box-office-radar)
Niiiiiice!
Good news for Sci-fi! Hope it keeps plugging away.
Quote from: Darth Vile on Jul 04, 2012, 12:15:30 PM
Quote from: robertmartin on Jul 03, 2012, 10:18:32 PM
Well. Without going off-topic i seriously dont think Prometheus quite achieved what it set out to do. Whereas Star Trek....(I feel anyways) did.
It depends on what your criteria is for its achievement. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the new Star Trek movie - for what is was... but I think it's as far removed from the original TV series/and movies as was possible. Some may see that as a benefit, but I see it as a big step away from a franchise (although it had had it's day in it's 'Next Generation' format) that was at least trying to be intelligent accessible science fiction.
Prometheus, whilst not coming close to Alien (for me anyhow) was at least trying to expand that universe by throwing larger ideas out there (even if only addressed in a rudimentary way). Ironically, I actually find Prometheus closer in spirit to the original Star Trek (including the 'Next Gen') than JJ Abrams version. But maybe that's my problem... :)
In a way I agree - Prometheus was very much a Star Trek film. All Shaw needs is a Starfleet uniform as her ship warps into space...and a speech over the credits "to explore strange new worlds...to boldy go...".
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Love that its jumped here in the UK!
I don't think there's any comparison to the Trek universe. The issue is all about the tonal difference between Prometheus and the rest of the ALIEN series. That's what's jarring us. There might be some thematic similarities....but really, this is science fiction, come now.
Ridley dealt with the subject matter unlike anyone else...with absolute seriousness, it's unlike anything else before or after it. It has some MAJOR flaws, but flaws aside, it's an astounding master stroke. I can't wait until the Blu Ray.
Jaime
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Jul 04, 2012, 06:47:52 PM
I don't think there's any comparison to the Trek universe. The issue is all about the tonal difference between Prometheus and the rest of the ALIEN series. That's what's jarring us. There might be some thematic similarities....but really, this is science fiction, come now.
Alien: Horror
Aliens: Action
Alien 3: Thriller
Alien: Ressurection: Comedy
Prometheus: Adventure
;)
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Jul 04, 2012, 06:47:52 PM
I don't think there's any comparison to the Trek universe. The issue is all about the tonal difference between Prometheus and the rest of the ALIEN series. That's what's jarring us. There might be some thematic similarities....but really, this is science fiction, come now.
Ridley dealt with the subject matter unlike anyone else...with absolute seriousness, it's unlike anything else before or after it. It has some MAJOR flaws, but flaws aside, it's an astounding master stroke. I can't wait until the Blu Ray.
Jaime
I think the comparison is sound... in that
Prometheus tries to be a big, bold, intelligent and yet accessible sci-fi movie... and sometimes that is to its detriment (same as
Star Trek).
Scott was clearly trying to make a highly commercial movie whilst not catering purely to the multiplex fodder. I personally think
Prometheus was a good crack at something that bridges the gap between highly commercial and intelligent sci-fi. I'm struggling to think of another movie that's done this as well, within this genre, in recent years.
Quote from: Alien³ on Jul 04, 2012, 07:09:04 PM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Jul 04, 2012, 06:47:52 PM
I don't think there's any comparison to the Trek universe. The issue is all about the tonal difference between Prometheus and the rest of the ALIEN series. That's what's jarring us. There might be some thematic similarities....but really, this is science fiction, come now.
Alien: Horror
Aliens: Action
Alien 3: Thriller
Alien: Ressurection: Comedy
Prometheus: Adventure
;)
I agree with the first two and Res. I think that I'd classify Alien 3 as drama/tragedy and Prometheus as Hard Sci-Fi, though.
Quote from: Darth Vile on Jul 04, 2012, 09:02:56 PM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Jul 04, 2012, 06:47:52 PM
I don't think there's any comparison to the Trek universe. The issue is all about the tonal difference between Prometheus and the rest of the ALIEN series. That's what's jarring us. There might be some thematic similarities....but really, this is science fiction, come now.
Ridley dealt with the subject matter unlike anyone else...with absolute seriousness, it's unlike anything else before or after it. It has some MAJOR flaws, but flaws aside, it's an astounding master stroke. I can't wait until the Blu Ray.
Jaime
I think the comparison is sound... in that Prometheus tries to be a big, bold, intelligent and yet accessible sci-fi movie... and sometimes that is to its detriment (same as Star Trek).
Scott was clearly trying to make a highly commercial movie whilst not catering purely to the multiplex fodder. I personally think Prometheus was a good crack at something that bridges the gap between highly commercial and intelligent sci-fi. I'm struggling to think of another movie that's done this as well, within this genre, in recent years.
Yes. And I'd like to add one more thing....Both Prometheus and
most of Star Trek....ask who are we and where are we going to? Who put us here? And we can learn this by exploring the stars. To boldy go. Alien as a franchise doesn't explore this. Instead, as a sci-fi franchise it is more introverted. All four films ask how humans relate to each other in crisis and the bottom line: profit. In Star Trek, its the questioning and exploration of the unknown that informs the self. In Alien, its the dark other that is already within the self that decides to come out to play. That's why i am a huge fan of both franchises. And, for me with they're recent movies they've done swappsies. Star Trek wasn't really about exploring strange new worlds/seek out new life/yada. Whereas Prometheus very much was. I think Mark Kermode of BBC also summed it up in his review of Prometheus: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jyxZBuWSXM#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jyxZBuWSXM#ws)
AND ANYWAY: good to hear the film securing enough dosh for a sequel - it really does need one.
Do we know from any official source that a sequel is happening?
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Jul 05, 2012, 12:29:16 AM
Do we know from any official source that a sequel is happening?
No.
Well................Sorta. Please watch that Mark Kermode review - he attended a viewing with Scott who said he was really up for a follow-up movie.
$$$ > Scott's desire.
Quote from: SM on Jul 05, 2012, 02:00:40 AM
$$$ > Scott's desire.
Your point of view is too simplistic.. Look at the budgets of the recent Scott's movies. If the box office results had not covered that budgets, no studio would let him direct such big movies, one after another. No money, no movie.
Simplistic? Not really. Riddles being keen to do a Prometheus sequel isn't going to enter into it if Fox doesn't think they'll make a bag of cash.
Sorry, English is not my native language, I should have used better word. Prometheus was not 100% perfect, but despite that, I really enjoyed it and I would love to see the sequel. I am not a Hollywood insider, but I know that many great projects are in limbo because there is no big name to push them forward, or the movies with great ideas are really slow in their development, because it's clear that they are not going to make $500 million..
I realized that when I was at work few days ago.. Our biggest projection hall was almost full, it was on Ice Age 4.. Simple, straightforward movie and they were laughing their asses off.. At that moment, I realized that audience simply won't make their time to go and see a complex movie like Prometheus.. Instead of going as one person or as pair, they will rather choose something for whole family..
I've never seen any of these Ice Age movies. Ever. Not even a single minute :D
Went again for the third time last night and it was still packed, still pulling in the crowds
T minus $10 (and half million :D)
It'll do 130 here in the states no problem.
Quote from: Zenzucht on Jul 05, 2012, 09:44:51 PM
T minus $10 (and half million :D)
Keep watching every week and eventually it will get there :laugh:
Prometheus went down to the 11th place below Snow White in boxofficemojo.com since Tuesday
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Jul 02, 2012, 08:59:58 AM
How many major countries don't have it yet?
I don't think it's out in Japan yet? Japan's movie market is pretty good from what I've been told. Several Hollywood blockbusters have done well in that state before.
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It has made $290 million worldwide so far. For a $ 130 million movie, it is merely good.
I was expecting this to make $170 million in US & Canada and $300 million overseas for a near half a billion of theatrical revenue.
I want to see a sequel, with or without Ridley. With a substantial home video market, I think Fox would eventually push for a sequel.
It's a bit off topic, but I admitted to night screening of Prometheus a guy who looked like Yanek and today there was another guy who looked exactly like Fifield :D :D :D , but he went to see Snow White..
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It has made $290 million worldwide so far. For a $ 130 million movie, it is merely good.
However with key territories yet to open expect it to finish off around $330+ million, which is quite excellent for it's rating and the series it is intended to reboot (in a fashion). However, for the event film that was marketed by Fox I would say 'good' is precisely right.
The bogus R-rating cost it at least double digits in the millions department.
The R-rating that fans were screaming blue murder about if it didn't happen?
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It has made $290 million worldwide so far. For a $ 130 million movie, it is merely good.
I was expecting this to make $170 million in US & Canada and $300 million overseas for a near half a billion of theatrical revenue.
I want to see a sequel, with or without Ridley. With a substantial home video market, I think Fox would eventually push for a sequel.
Destroy battleship prometheus
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Jul 06, 2012, 04:38:37 AMIt'll do 130 here in the states no problem.
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It's been consistently loosing 50% every week:
| Week 1 | 68,658,127 | |
| Week 2 | 29,888,553 | -56.5% |
| Week 3 | 14,790,168 | -50.5% |
| Week 4 | 7,237,926 | -51.1% |
It currently stands at $120 million. Next week it would get around $3.5 million and $1.75 million the week after. Looking at the trend, it will hardly reach $130 million.
I went to see it for a fourth time over here in Ireland this week and it was packed. Every time I've went to see Prometheus there has barely been a spare seat available.
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Jul 06, 2012, 08:08:47 PM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Jul 02, 2012, 08:59:58 AM
How many major countries don't have it yet?
I don't think it's out in Japan yet? Japan's movie market is pretty good from what I've been told. Several Hollywood blockbusters have done well in that state before.
We're talking about at least $10m gross in Japan alone. Not to mention Germany, Spain, Italy, Austria, Switzerland, Poland, and Venezuela. All these countries combined will provide at least about $45m gross combined - this is just going by the minimum potential of the market compared to what other films of this calibre grossed there.
So Prometheus will earn in total what Snow White and the Huntsman grossed now.
Would you consider this result good?
BoxOfficeMojo reports that Prometheus made $530,000 on Friday for a 14th place finish.
I just hope it can make it one more weekend my states bigger cinema chains. I need to see this again.
QuoteSo Prometheus will earn in total what Snow White and the Huntsman grossed now.
Would you consider this result good?
I would say yes, a lot better. Snow White and the huntsman had bigger budget and was pg13.
Quote from: bleau on Jul 08, 2012, 03:21:00 AM
QuoteSo Prometheus will earn in total what Snow White and the Huntsman grossed now.
Would you consider this result good?
I would say yes, a lot better. Snow White and the huntsman had bigger budget and was pg13.
It also had Kristen Stewart.
After taking $1.82 million this week for $122.4 domestic it looks like $125 million will be the limit for Prometheus.
World Wide take currently stands at $294.4 million.
http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=prometheus.htm (http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=prometheus.htm)
It seems like it. Friday/Saturday/Sunday estimate result recorded around 60% drop compared to the previous week. With Spiderman and TDKR next, Prometheus won't stay there for much longer.
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$300 million Worldwide is a lock.
The #of theaters drops each week as well.
It's cool that it managed to gain more than some pg13 blockbuster movies or comedies. And it did this with a r rating and it isn't even available everywhere.
I just read that the guys who did Dredd said if the movie will get 50 million dollars in the u.s. alone a sequel is pretty much guaranteed. Chances are high that a sequel for Prometheus will happen sooner than later
Quote from: zuzuki on Jul 10, 2012, 02:29:23 PM
I just read that the guys who did Dredd said if the movie will get 50 million dollars in the u.s. alone a sequel is pretty much guaranteed. Chances are high that a sequel for Prometheus will happen sooner than later
Uhhh... what does 'Dredd' have to do with anything?! 'Dredd' has a budget of $45 million, whilst 'Prometheus' had a budget of $130 million. You can't compare the two.
Right..
Prometheus has just about made back its budget, plus another 150 million. It's a hit. End of.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Jul 10, 2012, 09:24:27 PM
Prometheus has just about made back its budget, plus another 150 million. It's a hit. End of.
Yeah, well it doesn't exactly work like that.
You know, I was thinking, if they do a sequel, by the time it is released, Noomi Rapace and Michael Fassbender will be box office stars. Them two will be able to pull in a lot of viewers by themselves.
Well considering that using 3D red cameras, that probably brought up the costs, they had a few on set. like 4 or something.
How much does any one think that bumps up production costs?
To me, if they made this movie without, the effects would have been less cumbersome to produce. But from the sound of it, they were trying to make the production of it like a 'run of the mill' effects production(poor guys). Although Ridley was back and forth with ideas and effects that were made ultimately had to be revised over and over at some points.
Pretty sure red cameras are cheaper than film. Plus you don't need to buy film stock.
QuoteYou know, I was thinking, if they do a sequel, by the time it is released, Noomi Rapace and Michael Fassbender will be box office stars. Them two will be able to pull in a lot of viewers by themselves.
They'll also cost more to hire.
Unless it's already in their contract... doubtful though.
It wouldn't surprise me if they're contracted to do sequels. Not sure how the money works though.
Marvel or whatever company that did the Avengers signed Mark Ruffalo to do six Hulk-containing films. SIX. After hearing that, I wouldn't doubt if FOX signed Noomi and Michael to do at least one sequel. I know The Avengers made a shit more money, but still...Prometheus did pretty damn good for an R rated film, in this day and age, with PG-13 competition like Madagascar, Brave, TASM, etc...
Sanaa Lathan had a two picture deal for AvP.
Sweet deal for her.
Quote from: SM on Jul 11, 2012, 12:32:02 AM
Sanaa Lathan had a two picture deal for AvP.
Really? Wow. Well, here's hoping they greenlight Prometheus 2.
Quote from: Promethée on Jul 10, 2012, 09:39:29 PM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Jul 10, 2012, 09:24:27 PM
Prometheus has just about made back its budget, plus another 150 million. It's a hit. End of.
Yeah, well it doesn't exactly work like that.
And how exactly does it work? ;)
Quote from: Prime113 on Jul 08, 2012, 04:46:12 AM
Quote from: bleau on Jul 08, 2012, 03:21:00 AM
QuoteSo Prometheus will earn in total what Snow White and the Huntsman grossed now.
Would you consider this result good?
I would say yes, a lot better. Snow White and the huntsman had bigger budget and was pg13.
It also had Kristen Stewart.
And it's based on a classic fairy tale. More people rather see a Snow White film then a big budget Alien film sadly.
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Jul 11, 2012, 01:45:28 AM
Quote from: Prime113 on Jul 08, 2012, 04:46:12 AM
Quote from: bleau on Jul 08, 2012, 03:21:00 AM
QuoteSo Prometheus will earn in total what Snow White and the Huntsman grossed now.
Would you consider this result good?
I would say yes, a lot better. Snow White and the huntsman had bigger budget and was pg13.
It also had Kristen Stewart.
And it's based on a classic fairy tale. More people rather see a Snow White film then a big budget Alien film sadly.
Well, I certainly wouldn't say Snow White and the Huntsman had that much more interest. It had bigger budget, bigger marketing, and more theaters, and was accessible to audiences,. Where as Prometheus is r, and is doing a close second to it. Maybe not domestically but internationally it will be close. I'v also noticed that I haven't seen any tv spots for a few weeks so people do lose interest rather quickly. I still think Prometheus has done great and will probably make another 50mil from DVD/blu ray sales at minimum. :)
The major draw for Snow White is Kristen Stewart. The Twilight flicks have made over $2.5billion worldwide, the most recent clocking in at $700m. If only a quarter of the punters who saw that, go and see Snow White because of Stewart you're up around $175m before you factor in people going to perve at Hemsworth and Theron.
But then again Pattinson's presence didn't boost anything for Cosmopolis, so...
BTW Snow White was shitty and so was Stewart's acting.
I just felt this was needed to be pointed out.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Jul 11, 2012, 01:24:52 AM
Quote from: Promethée on Jul 10, 2012, 09:39:29 PM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Jul 10, 2012, 09:24:27 PM
Prometheus has just about made back its budget, plus another 150 million. It's a hit. End of.
Yeah, well it doesn't exactly work like that.
And how exactly does it work? ;)
I too am curious how this works. I always thought that any money that is made over the budget and marketing cost of the film is a profit.
For example if a film costs 50 million to make and 10 million to market then the film will need to make 60 mil in the theaters to break even.
I think you guys overestimate K.Stewart, she was just part of a successful franchise that was already huge in its book format.
Teen girls went in mass watching the dull love story with vampires not the actress.
If we follow your logic The Woman in Black should have made huge numbers because Harry Potter was in it.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Jul 10, 2012, 09:24:27 PM
And how exactly does it work? ;)
The numbers you see reported at the box office isn't the money made by the studio.
and the marketing/ advertising budget isn't included, and these one must be huge.
Quote from: Promethée on Jul 11, 2012, 08:02:02 AM
I think you guys overestimate K.Stewart, she was just part of a successful franchise that was already huge in its book format.
Teen girls went in mass watching the dull love story with vampires not the actress.
If we follow your logic The Woman in Black should have made huge numbers because Harry Potter was in it.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Jul 10, 2012, 09:24:27 PM
And how exactly does it work? ;)
The numbers you see reported at the box office isn't the money made by the studio.
and the marketing/ advertising budget isn't included, and these one must be huge.
The Woman in Black was one of the biggest British horror movies of all time in terms of box office wasn't it???
Who knows how much Scott Free and Brandywine participated in the funding of the movie..
Quote from: Darth Vile on Jul 11, 2012, 11:14:13 AM
The Woman in Black was one of the biggest British horror movies of all time in terms of box office wasn't it???
So ? it's nowhere near Harry Potter numbers despite having Daniel Radcliffe in it.
Exactly the same thing with Stewart, she is not the reason why twilight is a success, and outside that franchise she is not much.
Very few actors can draw massive viewers in theaters just because of their name.
Quote from: Promethée on Jul 11, 2012, 12:01:45 PM
Quote from: Darth Vile on Jul 11, 2012, 11:14:13 AM
The Woman in Black was one of the biggest British horror movies of all time in terms of box office wasn't it???
So ? it's nowhere near Harry Potter numbers despite having Daniel Radcliffe in it.
Exactly the same thing with Stewart, she is not the reason why twilight is a success, and outside that franchise she is not much.
Very few actors can draw massive viewers in theaters just because of their name.
What do you mean "so"? No one is suggesting that just because Daniel Radcliffe is in a movie, any movie, that's it's going to generate the same box office as Harry Potter. The point is that certain actors will pull in extra revenue due to their 'star' status. I'm really not sure why you're making it a debatable point. That's why 'stars' get big cash incentives to appear in movies. I'd suggest that in terms of box office Snow White has the bigger leading stars.
Quote from: Darth Vile on Jul 11, 2012, 12:15:12 PM
What do you mean "so"? No one is suggesting that just because Daniel Radcliffe is in a movie, any movie, that's it's going to generate the same box office as Harry Potter. The point is that certain actors will pull in extra revenue due to their 'star' status. I'm really not sure why you're making it a debatable point. That's why 'stars' get big cash incentives to appear in movies. I'd suggest that in terms of box office Snow White has the bigger leading stars.
You don't get the point.
Some people here make it sound like Stewart is a big asset to the movie and will drag a lot of people in, and some have used twilight numbers to support their claim.
I'm just saying they are wrong, and k.Stewart it's not one of those stars that make the crowds go and see her.
In fact we are saying the same thing, try to read more carefully please.
Quote from: Promethée on Jul 11, 2012, 12:22:59 PM
Quote from: Darth Vile on Jul 11, 2012, 12:15:12 PM
What do you mean "so"? No one is suggesting that just because Daniel Radcliffe is in a movie, any movie, that's it's going to generate the same box office as Harry Potter. The point is that certain actors will pull in extra revenue due to their 'star' status. I'm really not sure why you're making it a debatable point. That's why 'stars' get big cash incentives to appear in movies. I'd suggest that in terms of box office Snow White has the bigger leading stars.
You don't get the point.
Some people here make it sound like Stewart is a big asset to the movie and will drag a lot of people in, and some have used twilight numbers to support their claim.
I'm just saying they are wrong, and k.Stewart it's not one of those stars that make the crowds go and see her.
In fact we are saying the same thing, try to read more carefully please.
But that was my point... I don't believe anyone was trying to make out that Stewart has made Snow White uber succesfull... but it is a factor not to be sneered. Snow White contains 2 of the hottest stars of the moment. So might I add does Prometheus, but to a lesser extent.
$223,956 on Monday, and $256,539 on Tuesday.
QuoteBut then again Pattinson's presence didn't boost anything for Cosmopolis, so...
Might have to wait till after it's been released in the States to accurately judge.
QuoteSo ? it's nowhere near Harry Potter numbers despite having Daniel Radcliffe in it.
Exactly the same thing with Stewart, she is not the reason why twilight is a success, and outside that franchise she is not much.
She has a fanbase and she's a draw. No one has suggested any film she's in is going to do Twilight numbers same as how a Radcliffe movie won't do Potter numbers. But they're going to make more money with them in, than someone without that fanbase. There's a reason actors aren't all paid the same.
People were never that interested in Kristen Stewart..,,.people go to Twilight to see Robert Pattinson.
I think the main reason why Snow White is doing well because it's based on a classic fairy tale. It's not that hard to figure out. Most people remember Snow White from the classic Disney film from the late 1930's and the trailers for the film made most people check it out from what I've seen.
And yet Mirror, Mirror only made half of what Snow White did.
Mirror Mirror looked awful. SWatH at least had cool visuals going for it in the trailers.
Mind you, I saw it and found it to be unbearably boring, but my younger sister loved it. Word of mouth in that crowd might help.
Quote from: SM on Jul 11, 2012, 08:57:32 PM
QuoteBut then again Pattinson's presence didn't boost anything for Cosmopolis, so...
Might have to wait till after it's been released in the States to accurately judge.
I was unaware it wasn't out yet in States as I have seen it in Poland already...
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Jul 12, 2012, 05:00:11 AMI think the main reason why Snow White is doing well because it's based on a classic fairy tale. It's not that hard to figure out. Most people remember Snow White from the classic Disney film from the late 1930's and the trailers for the film made most people check it out from what I've seen.
It's also a good and honest fantasy adventure film. And it has Ian McShane as a dwarf, which is f**king awesome. ;D
But then Cosmopolis hasn't been marketed towards the Twilight fan club (hell, it has barely been marketed at all). Snow White was a big budget film that placed Kristen Stewart and Charlize Theron center stage with a heavy marketing campaign. Of course it was going to pull in a percentage of twilight fans.
A little OT but i thought the film itself was a bit of a mess. Felt a little too rushed and introduced way too many characters (some of which came too late in the film) but Charlize Theron was splendid and some of the visual ideas were an absolute treat. With a little more focus it could have been brilliant.
Quote from: Gazz on Jul 12, 2012, 11:34:54 AMA little OT but i thought the film itself was a bit of a mess. Felt a little too rushed and introduced way too many characters (some of which came too late in the film) but Charlize Theron was splendid and some of the visual ideas were an absolute treat. With a little more focus it could have been brilliant.
Clever. Very clever.
;D
I actually wasn't intending to be clever but I do agree that the same applies to Prometheus (except the too many characters remark). That being said Prometheus engaged me far more than Snow White did.
Quote from: Gazz on Jul 12, 2012, 11:34:54 AM
But then Cosmopolis hasn't been marketed towards the Twilight fan club (hell, it has barely been marketed at all). Snow White was a big budget film that placed Kristen Stewart and Charlize Theron center stage with a heavy marketing campaign. Of course it was going to pull in a percentage of twilight fans.
A little OT but i thought the film itself was a bit of a mess. Felt a little too rushed and introduced way too many characters (some of which came too late in the film) but Charlize Theron was splendid and some of the visual ideas were an absolute treat. With a little more focus it could have been brilliant.
While I loved Snow White and the Huntsman, I do agree that some characters should have been introduced earlier (mainly the dwarfs). I think another 30 minutes would have served the film well - especially considering its epic scale and approach. And more Queen Ravenna is never bad. :) I'm glad to hear you thought Charlize was splendid. I can't picture anybody else in the role.
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Jul 12, 2012, 11:39:10 AM
Quote from: Gazz on Jul 12, 2012, 11:34:54 AMA little OT but i thought the film itself was a bit of a mess. Felt a little too rushed and introduced way too many characters (some of which came too late in the film) but Charlize Theron was splendid and some of the visual ideas were an absolute treat. With a little more focus it could have been brilliant.
Clever. Very clever.
Snow White needs an extended cut... ;)
Snow White isn't doing much better business than Prometheus...and their production budgets are similar. Taking that into consideration...I think both films have been a modest success....I mean...Prometheus has made over a hundred million...that's huge (not in numbers but in sheer interest).
I just am awaiting the green light for the sequel.
Snow White was made for $40 million more and the PG13 rating/ Kristen Stewart/ Chris Hemsworth combo always ensured it would make more. They'll both end up shy of their production budget domestically, but in terms of WW box office they're doing good business.
Shitty Snow White movie is shitty.
Quote from: SM on Jul 12, 2012, 05:57:40 AM
And yet Mirror, Mirror only made half of what Snow White did.
Maybe because Mirror, Mirror look like shit and most people that I seen said that the movie looked stupid. With the other Snow White film, most people said that the movie look cool. Funny how the more mature Snow White movie made more then Mirror, Mirror since Mirror, Mirror is a family film. Often the family films win over the adult oriented films . Disney's Mission to Mars made more money then Red Planet at the box office 12 years ago.
I guess Mirror, Mirror look bad enough that not even kids wanted to go see it? I still think Prometheus did great for a movie that had a budget of 130 million.
QuoteMaybe because Mirror, Mirror look like shit and most people that I seen said that the movie looked stupid.
Anecdotal stories about your friends aside, both films reviewed about the same.
Wonder if maybe, just maybe, Kristen Stewart might've raked in a bit of box office there....
I think it was the trailer that aided SWatH. Lots of cool battle scenes, VFX, a generally interesting looking style- people at the time said it looked very Lord of the Rings.
Mirror Mirror looked much sillier.
Well it was a comedy.
And Phil Collins' little girl is much easier on the eye than Stewart while we're at it...
Quote from: SM on Jul 12, 2012, 10:54:29 PM
QuoteMaybe because Mirror, Mirror look like shit and most people that I seen said that the movie looked stupid.
Anecdotal stories about your friends aside, both films reviewed about the same.
Wonder if maybe, just maybe, Kristen Stewart might've raked in a bit of box office there....
... ;D
Box Office Mojo's update from 12th July saying global takings so far are just under $300m...with Blu-Ray and DVD to come - fair to say a sequel should be greenlit soon. Those figures are surely better than expected - considering the film had a B- overally audience review too...
^^^ plus all the other markets it hasn't opened yet like japan,germany....
$296 million at the moment.. The foreign markets are not yet updated, but I believe the movie's already over the $300 million.
I think it'll probably be closer to $298 considering how the box office has gone the last few weeks.
EDIT: That said the current total is actually closer to £297 million at the moment if you use BoxOffice.com's/ The-Numbers.com more accurate foreign tally ($600k more). I think foreign should bring in another $2 million this weekend.
They got midnight premiere for Prometheus in Poland, and in the city which I'm in currently, it's nearly sold out. It premieres in 5 days. The interest level is on pair with new Batman.
For some reason BOM is $600k off on it's foreign compared to every box office website out there.
Anyway, the film is at $299.5 million with a foreign cume of $175.1 (according to Hollywood Reporter/ Variety/ BoxOffice.com). 3 or 4 more days domestic should see it over the $300 million milestone.
I was wrong.. I was so wrong :D :D :D
Anyway, it's probably already paid, everybody got their money back, so I am happy too :)
Hopefully those unreleased markets make some bank. This thing will sell like crazy on BluRay. It's gonna look so pretty.
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Jul 16, 2012, 08:26:25 AM
Hopefully those unreleased markets make some bank. This thing will sell like crazy on BluRay. It's gonna look so pretty.
Yup, yup, so, so beautiful movie! I was to my third screening yesterday (half house full), I just let myself to be awed by the visuals..
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I am VERY surprised that Prometheus is beating out Brave since it's Pixar, and Pixar movies really make a profit.
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I am VERY surprised that Prometheus is beating out Brave since it's Pixar, and Pixar movies really make a profit.
In the US, Brave was released two weeks after Prometheus. Also, Brave has only been released in half of the world. If you just compare the yearly performance in the US alone, then Brave is at number 6 while Prometheus is at number 13.
TDKR will shift both of them hopefully :)
Prometheus may have fallen short of where I thought it go, but it's still gonna likely finish around 325-350, after the unreleased markets get their chance. I know Japan alone may bring in at least double digits in the million department.
Just $200k shy of $300 million
Quote from: zakzak on Jul 17, 2012, 12:12:47 AM
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And this was a strong year for film? Prometheus, even with its flaws looks like the only one I'd give shelf room to.
Quote from: Gash on Jul 18, 2012, 10:17:46 PM
Quote from: zakzak on Jul 17, 2012, 12:12:47 AM
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And this was a strong year for film? Prometheus, even with its flaws looks like the only one I'd give shelf room to.
I enjoyed SAFE HOUSE and I just saw DARK KNIGHT RISES, it's very enjoyable "good vs evil" type of movie.
But other than that, nothing, a desert.
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And this was a strong year for film? Prometheus, even with its flaws looks like the only one I'd give shelf room to.
The year is not finished yet. We are just in the middle of July. Prometheus may be able to shift Battleship and Wrath of the Titans down, but partially released Brave and Ted would most probably shift Prometheus to where it is now. There are also strong contenders which are not released yet this year; TDKR, Dredd, Total Recall, Skyfall, Twilight, The Hobbit, Frankenweenie, etc etc. Prometheus would most probably struggle to stay in Top 20.
Quote from: Anonymous User on Jul 19, 2012, 09:02:50 AM
Quote from: Gash on Jul 18, 2012, 10:17:46 PM
Quote from: zakzak on Jul 17, 2012, 12:12:47 AM
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And this was a strong year for film? Prometheus, even with its flaws looks like the only one I'd give shelf room to.
The year is not finished yet. We are just in the middle of July. Prometheus may be able to shift Battleship and Wrath of the Titans down, but partially released Brave and Ted would most probably shift Prometheus to where it is now. There are also strong contenders which are not released yet this year; TDKR, Dredd, Total Recall, Skyfall, Twilight, The Hobbit, Frankenweenie, etc etc. Prometheus would most probably struggle to stay in Top 20.
That's assuming those movies are good.... I think if Total Recall and Dredd are not that good, they'll probably tank. Whereas TDKR, The Hobbit, Skyfall and Twilight are probably guaranteed to be smashes, even before they come out.
Quote from: Darth Vile on Jul 19, 2012, 04:59:46 PMThat's assuming those movies are good.... I think if Total Recall and Dredd are not that good, they'll probably tank. Whereas TDKR, The Hobbit, Skyfall and Twilight are probably guaranteed to be smashes, even before they come out.
I cannot predict the future either but according to RT:
Dredd: 100% tomatometer (8 reviewers), 95% wants to see (3,663 users)
Total Recall: no review yet, 97% wants to see (23,994 users)
So I guess they are not bad contenders.
Quote from: Anonymous User on Jul 19, 2012, 05:58:35 PM
Quote from: Darth Vile on Jul 19, 2012, 04:59:46 PMThat's assuming those movies are good.... I think if Total Recall and Dredd are not that good, they'll probably tank. Whereas TDKR, The Hobbit, Skyfall and Twilight are probably guaranteed to be smashes, even before they come out.
I cannot predict the future either but according to RT:
Dredd: 100% tomatometer (8 reviewers), 95% wants to see (3,663 users)
Total Recall: no review yet, 97% wants to see (23,994 users)
So I guess they are not bad contenders.
Well I hope you're right as I'd like them both to be good...
How does DREDD have reviews? It's not out till September. I call BS.
Many critics saw it at the comic-con screening. No BS there.
Quote from: Gazz on Jul 19, 2012, 10:25:14 PM
Many critics saw it at the comic-con screening. No BS there.
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOh
BTW, Dark Knight Rises was amazing. Anyone who says less is just in the minority.
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Jul 20, 2012, 10:32:50 PM
Quote from: Gazz on Jul 19, 2012, 10:25:14 PM
Many critics saw it at the comic-con screening. No BS there.
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOh
BTW, Dark Knight Rises was amazing. Anyone who says less is just in the minority.
Look around. Minority doesn't matter around here :D
I noticed Avengers made 100 mill, worldwide, in Italy and Japan alone. I hope Prometheus can take in at least 30 mill from those 2 territories.
Don't think Avengers opens in Japan till next month, and it made $21m in Italy. $80m in Japan sounds like a big ask.
Quote from: SM on Jul 21, 2012, 03:13:32 AM
Don't think Avengers opens in Japan till next month, and it made $21m in Italy. $80m in Japan sounds like a big ask.
Unless I read it wrong, I was on BOM and it said 80 mill for Japan.
My bad, that was for China, not Japan. :-\
Quote from: Highland on Jul 21, 2012, 01:11:06 AMLook around. Minority doesn't matter around here :D
And so it shouldn't. Shit man, where do you think you are, Disneyland?
Prometheus opened with $1,24m gross in Poland during the opening weekend - it had 171 331 admissions - confirmed per the distributor. What say you? That was to be expected, though, because Poland has massive Alien fanbase.
Are you hopeful for Germany, Japan, Italy, Switzerland & Austria then?
Prometheus makes it past 300 million! Its not 3x the profits but thats ok.
Hopefully it's enough for Fox to greenlight a sequel.
Since this one didn't really have an ending, it would be nice to see what happens next.
Fox has made sequel after sequel with far less money made. Prometheus has made almost what Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection made combined...and it still hasn't opened in a few markets.
I believe a sequel will be announced quite soon. Let's hope it makes some better sense then Prometheus did in parts.
It officially grossed $1,278,482 in Poland from the period of 7/20 till 7/22, and it is still in the circulation, I think it made $2.5m by now and will top around $3.5m.
Box Office currently stands at $303 million (BoxOffice.com).
Box Office Mojo has begun to lag behind in calculating the foreign gross but the film is hardly on it's radar anymore so that's expected.
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Jul 27, 2012, 05:00:46 PM
It officially grossed $1,278,482 in Poland from the period of 7/20 till 7/22, and it is still in the circulation, I think it made $2.5m by now and will top around $3.5m.
There ares till major markets like Germany, Italy, Japan and Spain the movie is yet to open, believe it or not. These markets could further contribute about $40 million to PROMETHEUS final gross.
Oh shit, I totally forgot about Spain.
Final tally will be interesting with the remaining countries still to go. I think Prometheus did very well considering.
It's weird..
I've (we) been waiting for Prometheus so long and it made $300 million in two months.. The movie had some structural problems, but overall, I was really happy.
Halfway through The Dark Knight Rises I was dying, because I lost any feelings for the characters and I had already figured out the rest of the plot. And the movie is on $370 million after just one week.
:(
The Dark Knight Rises is a sequel and has much more hype then Prometheus did. I think Prometheus did fine at the box office. Maybe it fall short at the domestic box office but I think it did well enough worldwide. Not to mention the DVD and Blu-Ray sales will help the movie as well.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Jul 24, 2012, 10:43:52 PM
Fox has made sequel after sequel with far less money made. Prometheus has made almost what Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection made combined...and it still hasn't opened in a few markets.
I believe a sequel will be announced quite soon. Let's hope it makes some better sense then Prometheus did in parts.
I saw
Prometheus again today; it was playing for the final time in my local cinema so I thought, "what the hell" I might as well go see it. I still really enjoy the film - I really do. I think it's better than so much other Sci-Fi out there today. It is flawed. There is no denying that. To me, it was if they had written the first 25 pages and thought, "shit, this is amazing!" and then, didn't quite know how to make work 100% the rest of the way. But, I think there were some elements that really didn't make sense entirely, like you said.
But, I am really looking forward to a sequel. I think Lindelof was the MAIN problem with
Prometheus, and if they can get a another (better) writer on-board,
Prometheus could eventually become just the first part of a bigger and better two-part tale! I hope that will be the case.
As I said though...I still quite enjoy the film. Far better than so much other Sci-Fi out there, and visually astonishing!
The 3D Blu-Ray should be quite the experience! :D
I think if Prometheus gave you goosebumps as it did to me when i first saw the official trailer online, i think it deserves a second going. I didn't go in expecting an action packed Aliens film ala James Cameron or startrip shoopers, I expected more a type of Lovecraftian tale, and i only expect that much for the next sequel.
More of the astonishment Lovecraft style . If you want to see ass hole marine action, watch Battleship and stop whining and realize what an inferior movie it truly is.
QuotePrometheus has made almost what Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection made combined...and it still hasn't opened in a few markets.
Only if you don't adjust for inflation.
Quote from: acrediblesource on Jul 29, 2012, 11:32:00 PM
I think if Prometheus gave you goosebumps as it did to me when i first saw the official trailer online, i think it deserves a second going. I didn't go in expecting an action packed Aliens film ala James Cameron or startrip shoopers, I expected more a type of Lovecraftian tale, and i only expect that much for the next sequel.
More of the astonishment Lovecraft style . If you want to see ass hole marine action, watch Battleship and stop whining and realize what an inferior movie it truly is.
100% agree!
This movie felt more Lovecraftian to me than any movie based on Lovecraft's works, aside from that Cthulu short.
We're at $310 million now thanks to an opening in Spain. 3 big territories still to come with Germany opening next week.
Now at $321m WW after opening in Germany. Still Japan, Italy and China to come.
http://www.boxoffice.com/statistics/movies/prometheus-2012?q=prometheus (http://www.boxoffice.com/statistics/movies/prometheus-2012?q=prometheus)
Here's hoping the sequel actually opens in more markets simultaneously.
Quote from: Blacklabel on Aug 12, 2012, 08:39:34 PM
Here's hoping the sequel actually opens in more markets simultaneously.
Yeah I agree!
It seems to be working though.
Prometheus had a better opening weekend than TDKR in Spain. And it opened to $5m in Germany which is more than Snow White, MiB3 and TASM although not by much. It should be on for about $20m overall there providing it is well received.
Because Spain and Germany love Alien/s.
Loving the numbers. Not bad for an R-rated sci-fi film that really could have been PG-13.
Prometheus has great numbers for a sequel. More than 327 million all over the world for a R Rated movie is to be considered.Here in my country the movie was well received and had great reviews.
High numbers far superior than comparing with the last two alien movies and all the AVP movies combined almost.
Strong open for the month of August in Spain! I think this make it to 340-355 for the final tally. Not bad at all.
Broke $330m now. Easily $350+ with Japan, China and Italy to go.
Considering this shitty Snow White movie was PG-13, this is a HUGE success.
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Oh, man, if it could go over The Lorax, that would be amazing.
330 million not bad at all
so the sequel could be given a 200 mill budget now
Quote from: BAD_ASS_MOFO on Aug 23, 2012, 02:51:33 PM
330 million not bad at all
so the sequel could be given a 200 mill budget now
Why? Great movie can be made with a little budget..
Quote from: BAD_ASS_MOFO on Aug 23, 2012, 02:51:33 PM
330 million not bad at all
so the sequel could be given a 200 mill budget now
PROMETHEUS 2 would get around $150 million at most. Number #1 needs to do $500-600 million globally in order for No 2 to get to $200 million greenlight.
Worldwide: $330,039,795
Source: box office mojo. It's one of the most trusted box office sites.
Prometheus is the highest grossing movie in the Alien series. Both domestic and foreign. I wish it would've made over the production budget in the domestic box office. It was so close. Only a little less than 4 million to equal the production budget. It would have been great but the domestic box office for prometheus is succesful. The domestic and foreign box office is even higher than all three predator movies . Prometheus is a god of a movie. I've seen prometheus eleven times. God I love that movie. I'm looking forward to prometheus sequel. Trilogy if we're lucky.
Quote from: Alien Jockey on Aug 25, 2012, 11:12:44 PM
Worldwide: $330,039,795
Source: box office mojo. It's one of the most trusted box office sites.
Prometheus is the highest grossing movie in the Alien series. Both domestic and foreign. I wish it would've made over the production budget in the domestic box office. It was so close. Only a little less than 4 million to equal the production budget. It would have been great but the domestic box office for prometheus is succesful. The domestic and foreign box office is even higher than all three predator movies . Prometheus is a god of a movie. I've seen prometheus eleven times. God I love that movie. I'm looking forward to prometheus sequel. Trilogy if we're lucky.
How many more weeks does it have left? I am hoping it brings a little more.
Quote from: bleau on Aug 26, 2012, 02:08:36 AM
How many more weeks does it have left? I am hoping it brings a little more.
Prometheus has completed it's theatrical run. In the U.S. anyway. I don't know your location but mine is United States, Texas. It left the dollar theater a few days ago. Once a movie leaves the dollar theater, then it's done for sure.
Be interesting to see how many tickets it sold vs. say, Alien. I think the only movie that'd broken the trend of diminishing returns before this was Alien vs. Predator.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 26, 2012, 09:00:11 AM
Be interesting to see how many tickets it sold vs. say, Alien. I think the only movie that'd broken the trend of diminishing returns before this was Alien vs. Predator.
I'd assume that Prometheus opened in more cinemas, but I'm not sure how that translates into ticket sales.
$341.7m WW after opening in Japan. A final tally of $360+ is looking likely.
http://www.boxoffice.com/statistics/movies/prometheus-2012?q=prometheus (http://www.boxoffice.com/statistics/movies/prometheus-2012?q=prometheus)
How much more will the movie make in the dvd/blu-ray market?
Quote from: Gazz on Aug 26, 2012, 07:49:40 PM
$341.7m WW after opening in Japan. A final tally of $360+ is looking likely.
http://www.boxoffice.com/statistics/movies/prometheus-2012?q=prometheus (http://www.boxoffice.com/statistics/movies/prometheus-2012?q=prometheus)
Yeah, so it is still going in these markets.
Worldwide $341 million and still counting..
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Yeeeaaahhh! Suck on that, Lorax!
any chance of reaching 400 million? ::) anyways it did excelent considering the rating and the limited fanbase of sci-fi horror films
Nah, $400m is way to far off and would mean it'd have to make about $40-$50m in China and Italy alone.
I would say $360m+ is looking like the end game now, which would put it ahead of X-Men First Class and around Captain America money despite Prom's lesser budget (FC: $160m/ CA: $140m).
Quote from: Alien Jockey on Aug 25, 2012, 11:12:44 PM
It would have been great but the domestic box office for prometheus is succesful.
I don't think it would matter given how much money it did worldwide. 2012 didn't make back it's budget at the domestic box office but it made over 600 million worldwide.
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That had to cost a lot of $$$ and you can't even properly see it.. But maybe it was cheaper to do it real than CGI, who knows..
Quote from: Zenzucht on Aug 27, 2012, 07:26:04 PM
http://via.me/-4i0thp8 (http://via.me/-4i0thp8)
That had to cost a lot of $$$ and you can't even properly see it.. But maybe it was cheaper to do it real than CGI, who knows..
Sorry, what exactly are you referring to in that picture?
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That had to cost a lot of $$$ and you can't even properly see it.. But maybe it was cheaper to do it real than CGI, who knows..
Sorry, what exactly are you referring to in that picture?
The escape pod prop.
Quote from: Prime113 on Aug 27, 2012, 07:28:39 PM
Quote from: Zenzucht on Aug 27, 2012, 07:26:04 PM
http://via.me/-4i0thp8 (http://via.me/-4i0thp8)
That had to cost a lot of $$$ and you can't even properly see it.. But maybe it was cheaper to do it real than CGI, who knows..
Sorry, what exactly are you referring to in that picture?
That Riddles prop.
What a shitty name for a cartoon! its probably good too but shitty name.
Quote from: Prime113 on Aug 27, 2012, 11:09:17 AM
Quote from: zakzak on Aug 27, 2012, 06:14:01 AM
Worldwide $341 million and still counting..
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Yeeeaaahhh! Suck on that, Lorax!
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GTFO
Number 12 is pretty much given, if it does well in Japan and Italy, it might even touch the Intouchables, but anything more is impossible, so it's either 11 or 12...
Quote from: SM on Aug 28, 2012, 02:20:40 AM
Quote from: Prime113 on Aug 27, 2012, 07:28:39 PM
Quote from: Zenzucht on Aug 27, 2012, 07:26:04 PM
http://via.me/-4i0thp8 (http://via.me/-4i0thp8)
That had to cost a lot of $$$ and you can't even properly see it.. But maybe it was cheaper to do it real than CGI, who knows..
Sorry, what exactly are you referring to in that picture?
That Riddles prop.
:laugh: Classic SM!
I asked, because I really doubt that escape pod cost " a lot of $$".
$351 million so far.
QuoteI asked, because I really doubt that escape pod cost " a lot of $$".
In these sorts of flicks everything costs "a lot of $$".
According to a couple of sources it's opening day in China was bigger than Spider-Man and Dark Knight Rises but the Sunday to Monday dip was pretty huge for all films as students have gone back to school. It should be on for a $10-$15m China 1st week and $25-$30m overall if it holds to predictions. But it's early days yet.
please god, let it reach as close to 400 million as possible
I'm pretty sure that, by the time its over, it will be as close to $400 million as it possibly can be ;)
Loving this strong overseas push.
Great hold for Prometheus in Japan. Dropped a mere 17% from last week and is now estimated to be at $16.7m there after 2 weeks (and a couple of weekends of previews).
Is it possible to find the results from China?
I think the movie did fine and the DVD & Blu-Ray sales will help the movie earn another 100 million. I still say that a sequel in 2015 is likely to happen.
Quote from: Zenzucht on Sep 04, 2012, 11:20:36 AM
Is it possible to find the results from China?
I'm just picking up the estimated numbers from a couple of Box Office forums.
Prometheus is estimated to be at $8m in China after 3 days ($4m Sunday/ $2m Mon and Tue). I do not know how accurate these numbers are or whether they'll turn out to be completely legit.
I've just realized.. We are still speaking about the box office only, sometimes about blu-ray/DVD sales. The box office numbers are already in OK territory.
I've recently read an article about how does the movie "live", in the financial sense, after the release. Simply put, after the release and theatrical run, there are tons of negotiations about distribution in a various territories, on a various formats, video services, etc. etc..
So there can be much more money already, than what we know about...
Home media sales don't factor into box office.
Prometheus got greenlit for a sequel based on it's theatrical run. Films don't often get greenlit for a sequel based on home media.
Hellboy got a sequel greenlit due to the DVD sales though.
It happens. Just not very often.
Alien 3 was huge in Europe and on VHS market as well.
Worldwide gross should hit $380 million all in after China & Italy. China figure is so so , not a big market for serious scifi. Italy is the last hope for the movie to cross $400 million.
With rampant piracy, not sure a movie that was released 3 months earlier is going to make a shitload of cash in China.
Official numbers for Japan are in for last weekend and Prometheus has show tremendous hold. $3M in all last weekend which is a 20% dip from the previous weekend's $3.8M. $16.7M in all after 2 weeks and a couple of weekends worth of previews.
$30M is looking likely to my eyes.
so what is the estimated total until now?
Quote from: zuzuki on Sep 07, 2012, 02:20:32 PM
so what is the estimated total until now?
Keep this link handy
http://boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?view2=worldwide&yr=2012&p=.htm
Quote from: zakzak on Sep 07, 2012, 05:08:48 PM
Quote from: zuzuki on Sep 07, 2012, 02:20:32 PM
so what is the estimated total until now?
Keep this link handy
http://boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?view2=worldwide&yr=2012&p=.htm
Actually I've recently found this website to be both more accurate and quicker to update:
http://www.boxoffice.com/statistics/movies/prometheus-2012?q=prometheus (http://www.boxoffice.com/statistics/movies/prometheus-2012?q=prometheus)
Today it updated Prom's total to $356M as a result of factoring in the film's opening China date last weekend (Sunday gross).
Last count, worldwide gross at $374 million and still counting !!
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Source: boxoffice.com
It's going strong in China!
Worldwide gross as of last weekend : $378 million
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If it overtakes that shitty Snow White movie, I will be beyond delighted, and the chances are very likely since it opens tomorrow in Italy and Switzerland.
Quote from: Gazz on Aug 26, 2012, 07:49:40 PM
$341.7m WW after opening in Japan. A final tally of $360+ is looking likely.
http://www.boxoffice.com/statistics/movies/prometheus-2012?q=prometheus (http://www.boxoffice.com/statistics/movies/prometheus-2012?q=prometheus)
You gonna eat your words?
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Why? Did it not make over $360m?
Quote from: Gazz on Sep 13, 2012, 05:18:51 PM
Why? Did it not make over $360m?
$400 mill is $360+ mill
$700 mill is $360+ mill
$1 billion is $360+ mill
$5 billion is $360+ mill
I think you get my point
Erm... that's not grounds for 'word eating'. He reckoned it'd make over $360m and it has.
Beat Ted already! I think it won't be on the Top 10 for long once Skyfall, The Hobbit and Breaking Dawn Part 2 come out.
Quote from: SM on Sep 14, 2012, 01:49:54 AM
Erm... that's not grounds for 'word eating'. He reckoned it'd make over $360m and it has.
Not sure what he mean's either, but I assume he is pointing out Prometheus has made more then most assumed so far..?
Quote from: zakzak on Sep 09, 2012, 05:05:03 PM
Last count, worldwide gross at $374 million and still counting !!
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Source: boxoffice.com
Just pointing out The production budget was 120-130 mil. There was tax breaks and so fourth, so it will be impossible to get a total figure on that. 180 mil sounds sounds way out of line, compared to a lot of other sources.
This site includes the estimates of the promoting budget.
In this case: 130M production budget + 50M advertising budget.
I'm so glad Prometheus will overtake this dreaded Snow White movie. I have a sick grudge and obsession about it because I actually saw it in the theater thinking it'd at least attempt to be revisionist...Snow White had - with marketing dough - a budget of 225m and it made only 395m. Prometheus earned proportionally more, and now after the premieres in Italy and Switzerland + all the money it already earned in China it will overtake it anyway...
BTW, report from yahoo from 4 days ago:
Fox Prometheus grossed $6.3 million in its second round of China playdates, elevating the entire weekend take from 3,407 venues in seven territories to $8.5 million. Foreign cume stands at $247.7 million.
There is a demand for a dark, serious scifi that is not chockful of cheesy actions like PROMETHEUS. I am not saying that it should have less action, but here is proof that if a movie is made with respect for the audience, the audience would recognize it by spreading the good word of mouth. PROMETHEUS attendance is also influenced by the superb trailer campaigns which I think are mini masterpieces in their own right.
Quote from: zakzak on Sep 14, 2012, 02:33:22 PMThere is a demand for a dark, serious scifi that is not chockful of cheesy actions like PROMETHEUS.
Someone should paint these words on a boat paddle and beat Sir Scott with it until he realises the irony.
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Sep 14, 2012, 03:50:37 PM
Quote from: zakzak on Sep 14, 2012, 02:33:22 PMThere is a demand for a dark, serious scifi that is not chockful of cheesy actions like PROMETHEUS.
Someone should paint these words on a boat paddle and beat Sir Scott with it until he realises the irony.
There's no irony there... Whilst
Prometheus isn't
2001:ASO it certainly aint
Transformers. There is a middle ground to be had which is worth exploring.
Quote from: zakzak on Sep 14, 2012, 01:47:36 AM
Quote from: Gazz on Sep 13, 2012, 05:18:51 PM
Why? Did it not make over $360m?
$400 mill is $360+ mill
$700 mill is $360+ mill
$1 billion is $360+ mill
$5 billion is $360+ mill
I think you get my point
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I simply predicted that with the limited amount of foreign openings that it would exceed $360m for cert. And it has done just that. Your "point" seems to amount to nothing much at all.
Hell, if you are really that desperate for conflict, Prometheus has exceeded many of my expectations and predictions (BO wise) that I've posted in this very thread. But then I don't see that negatively. I
want Prometheus to do well.
Quote from: Gazz on Sep 14, 2012, 07:05:47 PM
Quote from: zakzak on Sep 14, 2012, 01:47:36 AM
Quote from: Gazz on Sep 13, 2012, 05:18:51 PM
Why? Did it not make over $360m?
$400 mill is $360+ mill
$700 mill is $360+ mill
$1 billion is $360+ mill
$5 billion is $360+ mill
I think you get my point
::)
I simply predicted that with the limited amount of foreign openings that it would exceed $360m for cert. And it has done just that. Your "point" seems to amount to nothing much at all.
Hell, if you are really that desperate for conflict, Prometheus has exceeded many of my expectations and predictions (BO wise) that I've posted in this very thread. But then I don't see that negatively. I want Prometheus to do well.
You want PROMETHEUS to be successful? hey we are on the same team
Now at $387,353,973
http://www.boxoffice.com/statistics/movies/prometheus-2012?q=prometheus (http://www.boxoffice.com/statistics/movies/prometheus-2012?q=prometheus)
C'mon $400 mill! ;D
Quote from: Daz85 on Sep 16, 2012, 08:53:24 PM
C'mon $400 mill! ;D
JaJa sci-fi r rated horror movie that gets 400 million at the box office?
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It's over $390m
http://www.boxoffice.com/statistics/movies/prometheus-2012?q=prometheus (http://www.boxoffice.com/statistics/movies/prometheus-2012?q=prometheus)
Quote from: Gazz on Sep 18, 2012, 10:10:38 AM
It's over $390m
http://www.boxoffice.com/statistics/movies/prometheus-2012?q=prometheus (http://www.boxoffice.com/statistics/movies/prometheus-2012?q=prometheus)
f**k yeeeaahh!
Yes, it will overtake Snow White for sure!
We're at $399m now.
Expect another mid week increase when official China numbers come in as it has broke previous weekend estimates and continues to display a very strong hold.
That is awesome, I hope a sequel get's the same budget or more.
will it reach 410, 420,450?
$410 -415 worldwide will be its final destination
Quote from: zakzak on Sep 24, 2012, 09:46:52 AM
$410 -415 worldwide will be its final destination
I'm going with $416m+ worldwide. ;D :P
In Poland, Prometheus had better opening than The Dark Knight Rises and The Avengers!
"Prometheus" (171 331 admissions), "The Dark Knight Rises" (157 581) and "The Avengers" (125 751)...
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Sep 25, 2012, 07:16:37 AM
In Poland, Prometheus had better opening than The Dark Knight Rises and The Avengers!
"Prometheus" (171 331 admissions), "The Dark Knight Rises" (157 581) and "The Avengers" (125 751)...
Niiiiice!
Why the heck did Snow White and the Huntsman have 1.4m likes on Facebook while Prometheus had only 400k (even with those other Prometheus-themed sites, it wouldn't amount even to half of it), while in reality Prometheus fared better in box office? 13-year old Justin Bieber fans pirated Snow White en masse instead or what?
Demographics..
.. and word of mouth.. Half of the people hated the movie, the other half recommended it to their buddies. When I was to the screening at my local cinema, there was still a lot of people.
Quote from: Zenzucht on Sep 26, 2012, 07:58:12 PM
Demographics..
.. and word of mouth.. Half of the people hated the movie, the other half recommended it to their buddies. When I was to the screening at my local cinema, there was still a lot of people.
This. A lot more teenage kids use that kind've stuff on Facebook than the audience for Prometheus does.
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Sep 26, 2012, 07:02:40 PM
Why the heck did Snow White and the Huntsman have 1.4m likes on Facebook while Prometheus had only 400k (even with those other Prometheus-themed sites, it wouldn't amount even to half of it), while in reality Prometheus fared better in box office? 13-year old Justin Bieber fans pirated Snow White en masse instead or what?
There are companies that are selling social media likes and such, seriously.
Quote from: LarsVader on Sep 26, 2012, 08:42:06 PM
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Sep 26, 2012, 07:02:40 PM
Why the heck did Snow White and the Huntsman have 1.4m likes on Facebook while Prometheus had only 400k (even with those other Prometheus-themed sites, it wouldn't amount even to half of it), while in reality Prometheus fared better in box office? 13-year old Justin Bieber fans pirated Snow White en masse instead or what?
There are companies that are selling social media likes and such, seriously.
Demographic for Prometheus is adult oriented. Snow white is a younger audience that tweet more so than adults.
It's nice to see it being on the top 10 highest grossing movies of 2012. Too bad that will end when Skyfall, The Hobbit and Breaking Dawn 2 comes out.
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Sep 28, 2012, 07:19:53 PM
It's nice to see it being on the top 10 highest grossing movies of 2012. Too bad that will end when Skyfall, The Hobbit and Breaking Dawn 2 comes out.
I don't have a problem with that assuming Skyfall and The Hobbit are better movies. Breaking Dawn however, will be sh!t I'm sure...
I would have loved to see Prometheus crack 500 mill, but hey, 400 plus is f**king solid. I can't wait to see the actual cut. If it was better than the theatrical, I will be pissed. It would have made even more money.
Prometheus is now officially at $402.6m
http://www.boxoffice.com/statistics/movies/prometheus-2012?q=prometheus (http://www.boxoffice.com/statistics/movies/prometheus-2012?q=prometheus)
Quote from: Gazz on Sep 30, 2012, 05:52:25 PM
Prometheus is now officially at $402.6m
http://www.boxoffice.com/statistics/movies/prometheus-2012?q=prometheus (http://www.boxoffice.com/statistics/movies/prometheus-2012?q=prometheus)
Yep, PROMETHEUS is now firmly in the mega blockbuster club
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Here is wishing that Fox hires a better writing team for the sequel PARADISE
Very glad to see Prometheus crack 400 million! Who knows how much better it could have done if it had received a better version in theaters?
What I really was curious about though is how much money do you think Prometheus will make from home video (blu-ray, dvd, digital downloads), toy licensing, and television distribution rights? Should that add another 50-100 million to the overall take? If so, I would hope that the studio would do their best to just sign Ridley for two more films and make it a trilogy leading all the way up to Alien.
Kinda torn if getting two more films might require PG-13 ratings though. I mean, I think Prometheus could have easily pulled off PG-13 because the Shaw scene really wasn't what Ridley made it out to be. It's like the whole difference between the higher rating was just cause of that c-section. If I was the studio, I think I would have just asked for a few quick cuts, lowered the rating, and then Prometheus could have made even more money, while still staying true to the overall mood and all that.
Quote from: zakzak on Oct 01, 2012, 02:19:42 AM
Quote from: Gazz on Sep 30, 2012, 05:52:25 PM
Prometheus is now officially at $402.6m
http://www.boxoffice.com/statistics/movies/prometheus-2012?q=prometheus (http://www.boxoffice.com/statistics/movies/prometheus-2012?q=prometheus)
Yep, PROMETHEUS is now firmly in the mega blockbuster club
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Here is wishing that Fox hires a better writing team for the sequel PARADISE
Here is wishing they keep the writing team but they don't butcher the movie in the editing room
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PROMETHEUS is among Top 10 global blockbusters in the year 2012.
Well, until THE HOBBITS & the new TWILIGHT open anyway...
-_-
f**k yeah! Over 400 million.
Rewatching the space jockey scene from A L I E N as I type this. 400 million, f**k yea!!! Yo dj play that tune!!!
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I think Fox has to be pretty happy with how the movie fared internationally. My question is if they'll expand, lower, or keep the budget at a similar level for the sequel. I'd rather they not bump it up too much if those "planned trilogy" rumors are true, because I don't want the sequel to lose money, so we can see all three. At this point, it would be hard to predict how a sequel would fare, so I think they'll play it safe.
I think the sequel will be PG-13. This movie lost out on a ton of potential earnings due to a bogus R-rating. It should have been PG-13. It was not THAT violent.
If Scott plans on a really violent sequel, than by all means make it R. If not, aim for PG-13.
Dude getting his head bashed in.
I found the movie to pretty violent. The movie was a lot darker then most PG-13 movies that I've seen in the past few years (2006 - now).
I don't either, but it's because we are used to horror films. Generic audience is not.
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Oct 04, 2012, 12:46:12 PM
I don't either, but it's because we are used to horror films. Generic audience is not.
I think if they just used 1 or 2 quicker cuts, it wouldn't have been bad at all. What I think sold it the most, was Noomi's acting.
Quote from: Prime113 on Oct 04, 2012, 01:00:17 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Oct 04, 2012, 12:46:12 PM
I don't either, but it's because we are used to horror films. Generic audience is not.
I think if they just used 1 or 2 quicker cuts, it wouldn't have been bad at all. What I think sold it the most, was Noomi's acting.
Like her or not, she f**king BEASTED that scene. I loved it. Felt real. Her acting was phenomenal in that part. \
P.S. You buy RE6?
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Oct 04, 2012, 04:33:24 PM
Quote from: Prime113 on Oct 04, 2012, 01:00:17 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Oct 04, 2012, 12:46:12 PM
I don't either, but it's because we are used to horror films. Generic audience is not.
I think if they just used 1 or 2 quicker cuts, it wouldn't have been bad at all. What I think sold it the most, was Noomi's acting.
Like her or not, she f**king BEASTED that scene. I loved it. Felt real. Her acting was phenomenal in that part. \
P.S. You buy RE6?
No doubt, man. And, I love her, so that doesn't hurt. :P
P.S. Next week I shall have it for the xbox.
Prometheus Outsells Avatar on Digital Download. Also Blu-Ray accounts for 71% of all physical media purchases made.
QuoteTwentieth Century Fox believes "Prometheus" has discovered a flicker of hope for homevideo, as the studio's vigorous promotion of a lower-cost, purchase-only early window sparked a notable number of first-time digital buyers and previous renters to own the sci-fi thriller for $14.99.
What's more, with a whopping 71% of subsequent "Prometheus" discs selling in Blu-ray in its first days to market, the three-week online pre-sale did not alienate buyers of the premium physical format.
"Results in those first weeks were really solid," said Mike Dunn, president of home entertainment at Fox, which does not disclose digital sales totals but shared some details of returns with Variety. " 'Prometheus' (downloads) actually outsold 'Avatar' by 11%, and while digital sell-through product is usually about 3% of total revenue in the first year of release, this will be more like 12%."
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118060734 (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118060734)
403,170,142
is that it now?
^^^ it hasn't been updated in a while.probably 410 million
No, it didn't make all that much more in Italy and was taken out of China after completing it's 5 week run (they have rules as to how long a film can play).
$403 is the official final figure, perhaps it made close to $405 after they stopped tracking the film but it simply didn't have the legs or territory to reach $410m. Good box office haul nonetheless.
On home-video Prometheus has opened to $18m on Blu-Ray and $6m on DVD in North America.
www.the-numbers.com (http://www.the-numbers.com)
Prometheus 2nd week home video figures for North America are in and The-Numbers.com have made a mess of them.
It took another $5m on Blu-Ray and $3m on DVD. However The-Numbers only added $1m to the overall Blu-Ray total from last week. Total should be at close to/over $23m on BR for an overall home video total of around $32m after 2 weeks.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?view2=worldwide&yr=2012&p=.htm (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?view2=worldwide&yr=2012&p=.htm)
as expected its been kicked out the top 10 by stupid Twilight >:( , something called The Intouchables (WTF is that?), and Skyfall (which is doing crazy box office - currently at $792m ww -and still yet to open in Japan/China so it could go on to be the first billion $ Bond...)...plus theres The Hobbit to come...
Quote from: bishoop on Nov 27, 2012, 08:40:47 PM
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?view2=worldwide&yr=2012&p=.htm (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?view2=worldwide&yr=2012&p=.htm)
as expected its been kicked out the top 10 by stupid Twilight >:( , something called The Intouchables (WTF is that?), and Skyfall (which is doing crazy box office - currently at $792m ww -and still yet to open in Japan/China so it could go on to be the first billion $ Bond...)...plus theres The Hobbit to come...
completely expected to be honest. Still, it's done pretty damn well.
QuoteThe Intouchables (WTF is that?)
Very successful French flick (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Intouchables)
Prometheus is a worldwide success both critically and with audiences. It stands officially at 406 million so says boxofficemojo
Quote from: SM on Nov 27, 2012, 11:01:59 PM
QuoteThe Intouchables (WTF is that?)
Very successful French flick (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Intouchables)
Not as good as The French Connection, though :D
haha, jk
Prometheus ended up no 15 for 2012 - shame it didnt do better domestic eh. (e.g. 200m)
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?view2=worldwide&yr=2012&p=.htm (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?view2=worldwide&yr=2012&p=.htm)
Quote from: bishoop on Jan 05, 2013, 06:05:30 PM
Prometheus ended up no 15 for 2012 - shame it didnt do better domestic eh. (e.g. 200m)
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?view2=worldwide&yr=2012&p=.htm (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?view2=worldwide&yr=2012&p=.htm)
Given the genre plus its rating... I think that's pretty good business.
Wait, Skyfall made over a billion? Holy crap.
Quote from: bishoop on Jan 05, 2013, 06:05:30 PM
Prometheus ended up no 15 for 2012 - shame it didnt do better domestic eh. (e.g. 200m)
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?view2=worldwide&yr=2012&p=.htm (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?view2=worldwide&yr=2012&p=.htm)
actually no - its ended up 18th (some films hadnt finished their run)
hard to believe Taken 2 made so much. (did more than Prometheus domestically).
Pretty impressive rankings on home video, too:
#7 Best-Renting Title of the Year 2012 !!! (revenue unknown)
#12 Selling Blu-Ray for the Year 2012 ($22.1 million)
#27 Combined Blu-Ray and DVD Sales for the Year 2012 ($38.4)
It looks like Prometheus grew in popularity on home video.
I think Prometheus even dethroned Avatar in the home market.
Oh did I say theatrically? I meant home market.
Quote from: Protozoid on Feb 10, 2017, 10:32:57 PM
Pretty impressive rankings on home video, too:
#7 Best-Renting Title of the Year 2012 !!! (revenue unknown)
#12 Selling Blu-Ray for the Year 2012 ($22.1 million)
#27 Combined Blu-Ray and DVD Sales for the Year 2012 ($38.4)
It looks like Prometheus grew in popularity on home video.
Elijah; The Numbers website has the total disk sales for "Prometheus" which showed (using the numbers that you posted) that it made about $5 million more after 2012.
Domestic DVD Sales $18,623,402 Details
Domestic Blu-ray Sales $24,755,942 Details
Total Domestic Video Sales $43,379,344
http://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Prometheus#tab=summary
Imo at least. BB ;-)
Is there any website that gives exactly how much Prometheus took in China ?
Quote from: oduodu on May 05, 2017, 06:30:00 PM
Is there any website that gives exactly how much Prometheus took in China ?
It's tough finding the information but here it is.
QuoteAlien: Covenant is the sixth film in the popular science fiction film franchise, but is only the second to hit Chinese screens after 2012's Prometheus, which earned RMB 220 million (US$31.8 million).
http://chinafilminsider.com/alien-covenant-scores-china-release-date-cuts-expected/
;)