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Mr. Scott's just-completed film "Prometheus" represents his first sci-fi release in nearly three decades. The movie, he said, is about "a higher being who challenges the gods" and is punished for his temerity.
The screenplay for "Prometheus" was written by Damon Lindelof and Jon Spaihts. While Mr. Scott refrains from calling it a prequel to "Alien," the last eight minutes of the "Prometheus" story evolve into "a pretty good DNA of the 'Alien' one," he said.
"Prometheus" was shot in 3-D with computer-generated imagery, in contrast to "Alien," when Mr. Scott and his team used spaceship models and a puppet and actor in costume as the alien. Since then, Mr. Scott has embraced computerized special effects, and said directing "Prometheus" was "the best time I've had in a number of years making a movie."
Nonetheless, Mr. Scott said computerized effects don't mean much without a strong story, which is why he has worked for years to develop the scripts for his current projects, and why he has such respect for sci-fi writers.
"The hardest single thing to do is write a screenplay or book," he said. "I'm not a writer, really. I get on very well with writers because I know they're my best friend."
Nothing really new from what we've heard before. But thanks for posting that nevertheless.
The movie is complete. I hope that means editing, music, effects, all of everything. And that we really get something official soon. a trailer?????
I hope so.
So no sign of Alien until the last 8 minutes. Probably a good thing though.
Not too much new information, but nice to see the silence broken for a change :)
Ridley Scott Spills the Secrets of 'Prometheus'
http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2011/11/07/ridley-scott-spills-the-secrets-of-prometheus/?mod=google_news_blog (http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2011/11/07/ridley-scott-spills-the-secrets-of-prometheus/?mod=google_news_blog)
Quote from: Valaquen on Nov 07, 2011, 11:33:18 AM
Not too much new information, but nice to see the silence broken for a change :)
Well I think it's a bit bigger than that as he suggests that the Jockey's and Engineers aren't one in the same.
I like the fact that the movie is not completely spoiled by spy photos and scripts leaks but nonexistent actual news really annoying. The SDCC footage should have been online by now and they could have shown pics that didn't spoil the movie.
Well, back to waitin' ^^
Quote from: Engineer1 on Nov 07, 2011, 01:20:57 PM
I like the fact that the movie is not completely spoiled by spy photos and scripts leaks but nonexistent actual news really annoying. The SDCC footage should have been online by now and they could have shown pics that didn't spoil the movie.
Well, back to waitin' ^^
Frustrating, but it should all pay off. They're keeping the movie close to their chests. We should have a teaser this month or next.
well i hope this part is not true (The movie, he said, is about "a higher being who challenges the gods" and is punished for his temerity.) because the alien franchise is of the sci-fi genre and not the supernatural, adding gods and supernatural elements would be absolutely stupid and a franchise wrecker, hopefully he was just being metaphoric and not serious.
Quote from: Nero the Jackal on Nov 07, 2011, 01:37:59 PM
well i hope this part is not true (The movie, he said, is about "a higher being who challenges the gods" and is punished for his temerity.) because the alien franchise is of the sci-fi genre and not the supernatural, adding gods and supernatural elements would be absolutely stupid and a franchise wrecker, hopefully he was just being metaphoric and not serious.
We've known about the gods angle since last year; and Prometheus is one step away from Alien; finally, the original Alien was infused with Lovecraftian overtones. (Finally finally; he's speaking figuratively. The gods are seemingly engineers of space, an ancient alien race. The Space Jockeys, perhaps.)
so the gods are just advanced aliens and not super-natural entities? well that is good then. Actual gods would not fit in with the alien franchise.
Quote from: Nero the Jackal on Nov 07, 2011, 01:51:05 PM
so the gods are just advanced aliens and not super-natural entities? well that is good then. Actual gods would not fit in with the alien franchise.
Yeah it's the general idea that if a technologically advanced species/aliens etc visited a less advanced race (early man/isolated tribe) then their technology would seem magical and god like since there would be no other rational for it.
That is what happened in AVP, predators were worshipped as gods in that film....didn't end well for the humans though.
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...The central metaphor of "Prometheus" is about a "higher being" who challenges the gods, and the gods don't want to give him fire. "Fire is our first form of technology," Scott says, and so by taking fire, the higher being is punished "in perpetuity in a horrible fashion." Much like the story of the mythological god, Prometheus, who stole fire from Zeus and for his actions was bound to a rock with an eagle eternally devouring his liver...
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That's a direct link to Greek myth, at last!
Quote from: tmjhur on Nov 07, 2011, 01:08:28 PM
Well I think it's a bit bigger than that as he suggests that the Jockey's and Engineers aren't one in the same.
Yes, looks like that! And a "higher being" is probably Engineer!
Quote from: Valaquen on Nov 07, 2011, 01:41:31 PM
We've known about the gods angle since last year; and Prometheus is one step away from Alien; finally, the original Alien was infused with Lovecraftian overtones. (Finally finally; he's speaking figuratively. The gods are seemingly engineers of space, an ancient alien race. The Space Jockeys, perhaps.)
Yes, I also think Mr. Scott speaks metaphotically about the gods, at least, Prometheus is ascertained to be sci fi genre movie, not religious and philosophical one.
Quote from: Nero the Jackal on Nov 07, 2011, 01:51:05 PM
so the gods are just advanced aliens and not super-natural entities? well that is good then. Actual gods would not fit in with the alien franchise.
Actually, every paranormal thing, untill being explained will seem as miraculous trick to us. :)
And in the light of what Ridley said during his interview, Paradise story spoiler comes even more likily: there is an Engeneer, awaken after a extremely long hypersleep, Vickers' chest explodes in the very end of the story...
It'll end up being a CG fest i bet.
After Ridley just said that there would be a heavy use of it? No way.
After a speculation I just read on Collider I now wonder if the Space Jockey is the Monarch of the "Uncivilised Society".
The God of Gods.
I'm happy that there is starting to be some talk about Prometheus now. Hopefully we'll get a few more Official Stills and a Teaser Trailer - possibly even the Website will go live with some atmospheric music. We're also due to know who will score this film. That seems to have been kept very secret (unless a composer has yet to be hired).
It's a good thing also that the last eight minutes have the "DNA" for Alien. Obviously, I'm a fan of Alien, and I'm happy that Prometheus is a part of that world - but I'm especially glad that this won't be a gimmick, and won't be nods to Alien every five minutes just for the sake of it. This is it's own film! That can also be viewed as a prequel to Alien.
(And just a little note to conclude: I hope my local cinema; FACT, will play both Prometheus and Alien back-to-back on release night. That'd be a mighty fine experience to see in the cinema! :D)
It appears that Ridley is still sticking to the "Prometheus is not an Alien Prequel" concept.
Quote from: Michael Harper on Nov 07, 2011, 04:54:59 PM
(And just a little note to conclude: I hope my local cinema; FACT,
Is that FACT in liverpool?
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Quote from: Michael Harper on Nov 07, 2011, 04:54:59 PM
(And just a little note to conclude: I hope my local cinema; FACT,
Is that FACT in liverpool?
That is FACT in Liverpool, yeah!
Several months ago someone very close to production shared some tiny bits with me. I've been unable to confirm any of the info posted below since then but since some 'familiar' bits are mentioned in this new interview. Here it goes for anyone interested:
Spoiler
- Ridley showed the creature designs to Giger. But he has had no known involvement with the designing process of the creatures beyond that.
- The studio hired someone to create a 3D model of one of the creature designs.
- The creature design process started in the States but the entire production went overseas eventually.
- The main creature is revealed at the end of the film.
- One "Alien" creature was designed for the film. But ditched once the plot changed early on.
Take it with a pinch of salt, just in case.
"the last eight minutes of the "Prometheus" story evolve into "a pretty good DNA of the 'Alien' one,".
Anybody want to hazard a guess for what that wonky sentence might mean.
1) The monster, by the end of the movie will look like the monster from Alien.
2) The space Jockey will be shown in the last 8 minutes.
3) Things will only get Giger-esque for the last 8 minutes.
I hope they aren't throwing us a massive curve ball.
I hope it's not a Metal Gear Solid 2 scenario.
You think you are getting Snake and then you get Raiden instead.
Hopefully we'll get Raiden and then lots of Snake.
Quote from: tmjhur on Nov 07, 2011, 05:48:51 PM
"the last eight minutes of the "Prometheus" story evolve into "a pretty good DNA of the 'Alien' one,".
Anybody want to hazard a guess for what that wonky sentence might mean.
1) The monster, by the end of the movie will look like the monster from Alien.
2) The space Jockey will be shown in the last 8 minutes.
3) Things will only get Giger-esque for the last 8 minutes.
I hope they aren't throwing us a massive curve ball.
I hope it's not a Metal Gear Solid 2 scenario.
You think you are getting Snake and then you get Raiden instead.
Hopefully we'll get Raiden and then lots of Snake.
I liked your
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty analogy! :D
I think, we will more than likely see the Space Jockeys throughout the film. But, we won't see it in that "suit" and in the seat until the final eight minutes. Ever since I saw those leaked pictures from the footage at SDCC, I've always thought that the shot of a character (possibly Elizabeth Shaw) looking up, through the helmet, and screaming, would be towards the end of the film. No idea why, and no evidence to support this, but just felt like it could be from the end.
Quote from: Guts on Nov 07, 2011, 03:19:44 PM
It'll end up being a CG fest i bet.
I won't mind if the CG does not look bad or does not over the shadow the story. I truest Ridley with the movie, I hope he can pull it off. Just hope the movie won't fall flat like his recent movies like Robin Hood and Body of Lies.
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Quote from: Guts on Nov 07, 2011, 03:19:44 PM
It'll end up being a CG fest i bet.
I won't mind if the CG does not look bad or does not over the shadow the story. I truest Ridley with the movie, I hope he can pull it off. Just hope the movie won't fall flat like his recent movies like Robin Hood and Body of Lies.
The CG will more than likely just be for the things that were unable to be performed in-camera. Due to size or something. Maybe even some backdrops. I doubt Ridley would go down that rough CG looking route. He never has before :)
Nice news (:
Why cant he just say if it has aliens in it or not? i dont care about sigourney weaver or it being in 3D.. just want to the know the simple set of the movie i.e does it have xenomorphs in it or not
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Is there a photograph that comes with this article?
Quote from: SHREK on Nov 07, 2011, 07:16:26 PM
Why cant he just say if it has aliens in it or not? i dont care about sigourney weaver or it being in 3D.. just want to the know the simple set of the movie i.e does it have xenomorphs in it or not
I doubt that the Alien (Xenomorph) will make an appearance. "DNA of Alien" is the phrase that has been thrown about most, and I think it means that literally. Ridley says that in the final eight minutes, that the "DNA" will become apparent; this can mean a number of things. But, I personally think that we will have a glimpse perhaps of the Space Jockey in it's focialised state that we saw in
Alien. And, if we're really lucky, maybe even a few of the Alien eggs.
But, I really do doubt that we're going to see a Xenomorph. And, I don't think it is necessary to include them. When you watch
Alien, it is the tension and the progression of watching these characters slowly learn more about the Alien; of how it gestates within a human host after being impregnated by the Facehugger. And, after it has been born, it grows rapidly into the Xenomorph we know it as. If you were to include that specific Xenomorph, the one we know all too well, in a film set before
Alien, then the entire point of the tension of
Alien goes out the window.
Again, I wouldn't mind seeing the Space Jockey in it's final form, and the Alien eggs - but, I think that is all that is necessary. Then you can watch both
Prometheus and
Alien back-to-back, and get the full horror and mystery that was originally intended.
To me, the phrase "The last eight minutes of the "Prometheus" story evolve into "a pretty good DNA of the 'Alien' one." has the sense, that last 8 minutes of Prometheus footage will be highly reminiscent and closely tied to the first Alien film, perhaps, with the scenery, conclusions or other hints, what means that Alien creature of Space Jockey wouldn't be blatantly shown into our face... Just some connotation of what have preceded the events of original Alien movie.
Scott said there will be no alien per se, no xenomorph.
First because as an artist he wants to create something new.
Second he don't want to use a creature (or say that there is any alien even proto-aliens) that has lost a lot of it's charisma over the years with fox's AVP or Alien Resurection.
The average movie audience is no more exited by the idea of seeing an Alien movie.
The franchise is now in the same category as Saw, final destination etc... It's sometime ok but not near a big budget summer event.
It's a smart move from Scott to get the audience exited for a new universe and also to get a bigger Budget than what he could have with a straight prequel.
The DNA thingie will be the proto Xeno or Eggs.
I think maybe a hint at the Alien derelict and its Engineer.
(i think that we will see one or several Engineer's ships taking off at the end of Prometheus with their newly created bioweapon on route to clean up and conquer new worlds, one of them being the one woch crashed on LV426).
Just a nod nothing too obvious.
As for the CGI, maybe one should read the original article.
Scott says he had fun with the CGIs but he's done most of what he can live on set.
We know there are animatronics too. So yeah it's probably been his most heavy cgi movie ever but he still more inclined to use pratical effects when possible than go full CGI.
So no. No cgi fest.
Giger was a consultant on the movie, he did not created new creatures.
Nor the interiors of the Engineer's ship.
If you check closely the pictures you will see that it's less organic and more mechanical.
It keeps the general esthetic of Giger but it's not GIGER's.
He probably done some doodles, ideas and concepts wich were fine tuned by other artists.
I think tho that some past Gigers may have been used, for exemple the Engineer's design is probably inspired by his biomechanoids humanoids from Necronomicon (the now famous head leaves no doubt about it).
Carlos Huante did a long run on the movie, Martin Rezard too both on creatures.
Neville Page did costume designs not creatures.
I'm not going to be pissed if the creatures are not the creation of Giger, i trust Scott.
If he has seen something in some others artist that caught his eyes the way Giger did that fine by me.
Definitly a new monster will be shown at the end of the movie but i don't think we will have to wait until the end of the movie to see some weird shit. The first act will be about the humans, the exploration,the second about the Engineers, their civilization (and i hope their Homeworld) the climax will be about those new creatures.
Quote from: Engineer1 on Nov 07, 2011, 08:41:19 PM
Scott said there will be no alien per se, no xenomorph.
First because as an artist he wants to create something new.
Second he don't want to use a creature or say that there is any alien (even proto-aliens) bacause it has lost a lot of it's charisma over the years with fox's AVP or Alien Resurection.
The average movie audience is no more exited by the idea of seeing an Alien movie.
The franchise is now in the same category as Saw, final destination etc...
It's a smart move from Scott to get the audience exited for a new universe and also to get a bigger Budget than what he could have with a straight prequel.
The DNA thingie will be the proto Xeno or Eggs.
As for the CGI, maybe one should read the original article.
Scott says he had fun with the CGIs but he's done most of what he can live on set.
We know there are animatronics too.
So it's probably been his most heavy cgi movie he's done ever but he still more inclined to use pratical effects when possible than go full CGI.
So no. No cgi fest.
Giger was a consultant on the movie, he did not supervised the creatures.
Nor the interiors of the Engineer's ship.
If you check closely the pictures you will see that it's less organic and more mechanical.
It keeps the general esthetic of Giger but it's not GIGER's.
Carlos Huante did a long run on the movie, Martin Rezard too both on creatures.
Neville Page did costume designs not creatures.
Definitly a new monster will be shown at the end of the movie but before that we will have witnessed if i'm correct other strange and dangerous creatures. I don't think we will have to wait until the end of the movie to see some weird shit.
The first act will be about the humans, the exploration,the second about the Engineers, their civilization (and i hope their Homeworld) the climax will be about those new creatures.
Nicely said. Pretty much everything I was thinking.
So, DNA is scriptwriter's speak generally means "core ideas"
I think its both.
The core idea and the actual DNA that will lead to the xenos.
Quote from: Engineer1 on Nov 07, 2011, 09:12:17 PM
I think its both.
The core idea and the actual DNA that will lead to the xenos.
Don't get your hopes up.
I've been saying for awhile that I've had serious doubts on whether or not this film will actually have an Alien in it; I guess more people are starting to agree with me now than to disagree. :D
I'm not hoping for anything.
I have no doubt know that we wont see the xeno/alien in the form we've known.
We will get to see the proto xeno the original creatures that lead to the xenos or alien as you call them.
Scott made it clear very early :
Ridley,
Quote'The first one will always be the most frightening, because the beast we put together with Giger and all its parts -the facehugger, the chestburster, the egg- they were all totally original, and that's hard to follow ... I think, therefore, I have to design -or redesign- earlier versions of what these elements are that led to the thing you finally see in Alien, which is the thing that catapults out of the egg, the facehugger. I don't want to repeat it. The Alien in a sense, as a shape, is worn out.
So much fuss about so little. Scott revealed pretty much nothing we've already heard. These dumb interviewers need to ask about a trailer.
I don't care if the movie directly has a Xenomorph in it or not but I certainly want it to connect with ALIEN as being a part of the same universe, maybe simply by having these "Engineers" be the Space Jockeys.
Could people define "proto-xeno"? Up to this point, I was under the impression that people on this forum considered this to be the "original" pure-breed Alien. (Something I disagree with as the EU seems to indicate that the proto-xenos look pretty much like the normal xenos) Is this correct?
I've assumed when people say proto-Xenos they mean the protoype of the Xenomorphs or the organism that the Xenomorphs were based on or genetically altered on.
When i say proto xeno, and i stress that it's MY take on the concept, i think about the original creatures that lead to the facehuggers and xenomorph that we know.
I don't know what the EU says (i never take whats coming from this as cannon usually save for details who were taken from the scripts and didt not made it into the movies) from Scott's pov the xenos are bioweapon created by the Engineers.
It's a safe bet to think that before the Xenos got their DNA mixed with others creatures there was a patient zero.
To me that is the proto xeno.
The Prometheus myth works great with a creature that rips the guts of it's victims but there's gotta be a twist.
I doubt that the final climax with the hint to ALIEN will only be 8mins.
I think the climax with the new creatures will be longer than that but in the final minutes we will see the hint to ALIEN.
Either the first Facehugger Egg either the derelict ship taking off with its cargo.
I'd love to see a legit fan made image of a proto-xeno...let's see how authentically terrifying you can be with your ideas. :)
I really have no idea what to expect from these new creatures.
All i know is that Carlos Huante is great at creating weird monsters and he had a lot of fun working with Scott, who had great ideas and concepts from what he said on his facebook page.
I just saw Harold and Kumar 3D and I loved the experience. I can't wait to see how good the CGI for Prometheus looks in glorious 3D.
I Completely understand and respect Ridley scott as an artist wanting to create somthing new, and im so excited for prometheus and I honestly feel its a good idea, but I dont like when he compared the Alien franchise to that of Saw or Final destination, I remember watching Alien and Aliens, even Alien3 I like,I dont know why it got harsher reviews than Alien rez? because I hated alien rez and didnt mind alien3.
but thats beside the point my point is I wish he or james cameron would just do one final movie for the fans,even if not a box office smash just a plainly -good- movie, just give the alien series the respect it deserves....thats just from where I stand I dont care if people agree or disagree,thats just how I feel about it!, that said I'm looking forward to Prometheus alot =)
Just to be clear Scott never compared Alien to Saw or Final Destination.
I just gave those movies for exemples to show the state of mind of the average moviegoer toward a straight Alien prequel.
Fox kinda killed the franchise with the stupid AVPs movies.
It diminished the power of the creature itself but not on its original universe.
So Scott took the same universe to tell a new/side story with new creatures.
Clever.
The movie you wish for will be PROMETEHUS ;)
And if we are lucky and the movie is a hit we will have more reason to rejoice as Alien fans.
OoOOO
thats good to know,regardless I kind of agree with that statement. they are turning into shitty popcorn movies and I still want them to have some respect again you know? I grew up on those movies =(
I'm definitly with you on that.
I too grew up watching them.
I think that the Alien universe is gonna shine again.
I just hope that FOX won't be stupid and spoil it all again after Prometheus.
One thing i noted with this new article is that it says that PROMETHEUS has just been completed.
I'm very excited for this film. It's so nice to get a new sci-fi horror in the vein of Alien but without continually re-humping the already murdered and murdered and murdered again Xenomorph we all lament. :( Please, allow generations of new moviegoers to understand what made Alien so incredible in the first place, enough to spawn a trilogy of (lolo) great films and establish the Alien as a legacy in movie history.
CGI makes me cringe, as the technology seems to be moving backwards now, but I do have faith in Ridley to understand the difference between "looks like ass" and "looks real, scary, terrifying even." I mean, I have a 10 year old nephew that can easily spot the difference between CGI and real, and is quite frightened by the latter, and if a 10 year old can do it, why can't rich hollywood types?
This might be the first movie I see in theaters in 3D. I pray to the gods that it may be glorious. I pray that they drudge up the old fear, the childhood fear that never really goes away, that wonderfully familiar nightmare.
Oh, I pray.
problem with CGI nowadays is that it's used in a way that looks unnatural. you can have better-than-real 3D models and lightning effects and shit but if it doesn't move like it should, if it's way too good looking it's not going to blend in. they also make shots way too dynamic that you just know cannot be done with cameras, they completely disregard seamlessness to make comic book shots with weird angles and extreme close ups.
I agree.
Not to mention, I hope he doesn't make the Prometheus ship all decked out and zooming around. In the end, if its really not an alien film, it'll be okay, but the slow, "anti-Star Wars" look of the Nostromo in ALIEN was one of the really great concepts.
Quote from: RagingDragon on Nov 08, 2011, 01:30:14 AM
I'm very excited for this film. It's so nice to get a new sci-fi horror in the vein of Alien but without continually re-humping the already murdered and murdered and murdered again Xenomorph we all lament. :( Please, allow generations of new moviegoers to understand what made Alien so incredible in the first place, enough to spawn a trilogy of (lolo) great films and establish the Alien as a legacy in movie history.
CGI makes me cringe, as the technology seems to be moving backwards now, but I do have faith in Ridley to understand the difference between "looks like ass" and "looks real, scary, terrifying even." I mean, I have a 10 year old nephew that can easily spot the difference between CGI and real, and is quite frightened by the latter, and if a 10 year old can do it, why can't rich hollywood types?
This might be the first movie I see in theaters in 3D. I pray to the gods that it may be glorious. I pray that they drudge up the old fear, the childhood fear that never really goes away, that wonderfully familiar nightmare.
Oh, I pray.
I loved reading that whole comment,like really,its nice to read intelligent comments from nice people =]
anyways I totally agree,only other movie I saw in 3d was Avatar and I was not trying to put down Prometheus at all because im sooooo excited for it your totally right I cant waitt to see it!
and I love how you call it,the Alien trilogy haha. to true :)
James cameron said he liked AvP and I wonder if he was just being polite or if he actually thought it was decent? I didnt mind the movie overall untill it looked like that women was dieing to blow the predator, hmff =/
Wow, thanks ;D
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I think James Cameron honestly thought "Godzilla vs. King Kong," like, his expectations were really through the sub-basement so he was kind of surprised that they salvaged some sort of forumlaic, made-for-television kind of monster movie out of what people thought would be a hideous, flaming train wreck. He recognized the effort that went into it, which definitely wasn't the quality of the first two Alien movies, but it still had a few things going for it, you know? Like, not a total loss. Not, like, an AvP:R. Lololo
the last eight minutes of the "Prometheus" story evolve into "a pretty good DNA of the 'Alien' one
story - one; DNA of the Alien story; so it's a metaphor
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Nov 08, 2011, 09:16:37 AM
the last eight minutes of the "Prometheus" story evolve into "a pretty good DNA of the 'Alien' one
story - one; DNA of the Alien story; so it's a metaphor
Lol, it makes me laugh how some people interpreted this quote as the movie will literally end with a shot of Xenomorph DNA.
jaysus!
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he movie, he said, is about "a higher being who challenges the gods" and is punished for his temerity.
While Mr. Scott refrains from calling it a prequel to "Alien," the last eight minutes of the "Prometheus" story evolve into "a pretty good DNA of the 'Alien' one," he said.
So I assume the "higher being" is the Engineer (the one we see as a fossil in Alien) and he is from the "Space Jockey" species whose leaders or decision makers are the "gods" (also possibly the same species or maybe some unknown species that we have not seen yet).
The Engineer is an ambitious scientist, a bit of a Dr Frankenstein, with crazy ideas but he is suppressed by his superiors (i.e. the gods) since they believe his ideas are insane and a threat to the universe. However he goes against their wishes and creates some crazy shit that we will see in the movie Prometheus. One of his creations will be the xenomorphs, in their pure form.
He gets punished at the end and is face raped by one of his creations.
I would not be shocked if the final product is some where along these lines.
The quote about the higher being is out of context.
In the full interview Scott is talking about the actual Prometheus myth not the movie.
It's a reminder ;)
So the Gods are the Engineers.
I think the Higher being (prometheus) might be an Android (David or Meredith) that steals the fire from the gods.
And the humans are... The humans ^^
And so we are back to KFS' leak...
But your version of the Engineer being some sort of Frankenstein is very close to the PARADISE "leak".
Like i previously said the movie will probably end up being a mix of KFS and PARADISE.
Could it be that the planet they visit with the cave and the alien artifacts is actually a space jockey prison for starting the human technology evolution? Stranded on the planet, Going through some form of punishment. The humans presence disrupts the punishment and breaks it free. Obviously its going to be pissed and want some sort of revenge. So its uses the humans to bread the xeno. Obviously the xeno design will be in the early stages in this film so won't look like the alien in the original film
Quote from: Engineer1 on Nov 08, 2011, 10:44:19 AM
The quote about the higher being is out of context.
In the full interview Scott is talking about the actual Prometheus myth not the movie.
It's a reminder ;)
So the Gods are the Engineers.
I think the Higher being (prometheus) might be an Android (David or Meredith) that steals the fire from the gods.
And the humans are... The humans ^^
And so we are back to KFS' leak...
But your version of the Engineer being some sort of Frankenstein is very close to the PARADISE "leak".
Like i previously said the movie will probably end up being a mix of KFS and PARADISE.
But how can an android be of higher being than Humans? If anything they are lower. Just because hes an android doesn't make him a higher being than us
Quote from: ikarop on Nov 07, 2011, 05:20:14 PM
Spoiler
- Ridley showed the creature designs to Giger. But he has had no known involvement with the designs.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg829.imageshack.us%2Fimg829%2F7558%2Fimagemlnj.png&hash=f8a7c2c87e7923ce5e8b7176025c79c7416ec43a) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/829/imagemlnj.png/)
I think it will all end with an early form of the 'Facehugger' - the proverbial chicken before the egg.
If so, I hope it will be one of the sluggish Giger ones as in his original designs and not the films.
Quote from: nendo link
But how can an android be of higher being than Humans? If anything they are lower. Just because hes an android doesn't make him a higher being than us
A being that his faster, stronger and probably more intelligent than any human is in my mind a higher being.
Also his judgement and actions are not clouded by emotion and if he start to think on it's own then we are in trouble.
The creation becoming more powerful than its creator and taking over him as the next step in evolution is a recurent theme in scifi especially with artificial humans. If the replicants did not have a expiration date, they would definitly be the ruling class.
It fits the Prometheus myth and what we know of the movie so far perfectly.
im tired of stuff we already know.... give us a damn trailer ...
Quote from: dallevalle on Nov 08, 2011, 08:28:28 PM
im tired of stuff we already know.... give us a damn trailer ...
Indeed! Just a teaser trailer for now! Just something!
Quote from: wmmvrrvrrmm on Nov 07, 2011, 09:07:46 PM
So, DNA is scriptwriter's speak generally means "core ideas"
Always has been. It's never been referenced in any quotes to infer
literal genetics. Always in reference to the DNA (in other words, structure and story formula) of the original
film.
And I suspect that any creatures we end up seeing will essentially be based on a concept shown in another of Giger's films; '
Species'. The genetically 'untainted' and relatively pure stock of Alien creature, before successive generations genetically adapt to host DNA assimilation.
It's the only way he'll realistically be able to achieve what he's talked about wanting to do, ever since his first DVD commentary about the original film: Redesign the same creature's look.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Nov 08, 2011, 09:59:44 PM
Quote from: wmmvrrvrrmm on Nov 07, 2011, 09:07:46 PM
So, DNA is scriptwriter's speak generally means "core ideas"
Always has been. It's never been referenced in any quotes to infer literal genetics. Always in reference to the DNA (in other words, structure and story formula) of the original film.
Well i don't see how DNA cannot come into play in a movie that deals with godlike creatures that engineers worlds and creatures...
the term DNA as used by Ridley Scott is metaphoric...get it? DNA means "elements of" or "traces of" or "beginnings of"
case closed.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Nov 08, 2011, 11:10:42 PM
the term DNA as used by Ridley Scott is metaphoric...get it? DNA means "elements of" or "traces of" or "beginnings of"
case closed.
You mean like...DNA?
Does anyone remember when Ridley said they'd be revealing more Prometheus media and info? Wasn't it supposed to be around now?
Lindelof said late in the fall so we might be getting something around the end of November.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Nov 08, 2011, 11:10:42 PM
the term DNA as used by Ridley Scott is metaphoric...get it? DNA means "elements of" or "traces of" or "beginnings of"
case closed.
OOOOH So you know that for a fact?
You've seen or read Prometheus?
Or even better you are Sir Scott!
How do the Engineers create life? Magic?
I don't close any option.
But it's definitly not ONLY metaphoric talking.
Why cant it be both especially when all the infos tend to prove that bio engineering is at the core of the movie.
Do you reckon there's going to be some viral-thing or ARG?
Quote from: Engineer1 on Nov 08, 2011, 11:24:06 PM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Nov 08, 2011, 11:10:42 PM
the term DNA as used by Ridley Scott is metaphoric...get it? DNA means "elements of" or "traces of" or "beginnings of"
case closed.
OOOOH So you know that for a fact?
You've seen or read Prometheus?
Or even better you are Sir Scott!
I don't close any option.
But it's definitly not ONLY metaphoric talking.
How do the engineers create life? Magic?
Chill.
Chill?
Why? Do i look hot to you? ;)
I don't like the "case closed" thingie.
It sounds a lot like STFU.
Don't discuss this or that.
What's the DNA thingie's not a fact yet.
Both theories are still valid.
I tend to believe that it will be actual DNA because of what the movie is about.
And also because it works with the most accurate leak ie the marketsaw leak that said that in the final act the movie drift into ALIEN territory with creatures hunting down humans in a spaceship.
DNA of the the ALIEN spirit, and also actual DNA of the creatures.
BOTH!
I rest my case.
The jury is in.
The verdict is :
I'm right and you're wrong.
Case closed.
Definitly Fun! We'lla have to do it again sometime ;D ;D ;D
"All Good Things To Those Who WAIT..."
Like...'I TOLD you so!!!', if that's your beef.
...revenge...cold...etc...
I think that the DNA that Ridley is talking about is the same sort of stuff that fans of Star Wars saw with The Phantom Menace and the other two films in the new trilogy. Even though they were introduced to an almost entirely new cast of characters, there were still instances when we got cameos from Jabba, Chewbaca, and The Death Star (as a blueprint only).
Prometheus will be its own film but we might be able to catch a glimpse of a the Nostromo at the end of the movie. We might get to see Ash get his original orders to "bring back the life form" as a top priority in his mission. We may even get to see how the Space Jockey in the original film got that gapping hole in his chest (something that I always wondered about but could never quite figure out).
Anyways, that's what I think Ridley means by Alien DNA. We will simply get visual references to the first movie in glorious 3D to reinforce the notion that this movie takes place in the same universe. Otherwise, without these references, that fact might go over some of our heads.
Quote from: Ash 937 on Nov 09, 2011, 02:55:41 AM
I think that the DNA that Ridley is talking about is the same sort of stuff that fans of Star Wars saw with The Phantom Menace and the other two films in the new trilogy...
...We might get to see Ash get his original orders to "bring back the life form" as a top priority in his mission...
Quote from: Damon Lindelof
...with all due respect to anyone who makes a prequel, but why would you ruin the greatest twist in the history of cinema, "Luke, I am your father", by showing me three movies which basically spoil that surprise. You can do movies which take place before Star Wars, but I don't need to see the story of the Skywalker clan. Show me something else which I can't guess the possible outcome of. There is no suspense in inevitability.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Nov 08, 2011, 09:59:44 PM
Quote from: wmmvrrvrrmm on Nov 07, 2011, 09:07:46 PM
So, DNA is scriptwriter's speak generally means "core ideas"
Always has been. It's never been referenced in any quotes to infer literal genetics. Always in reference to the DNA (in other words, structure and story formula) of the original film.
And I suspect that any creatures we end up seeing will essentially be based on a concept shown in another of Giger's films; 'Species'. The genetically 'untainted' and relatively pure stock of Alien creature, before successive generations genetically adapt to host DNA assimilation.
It's the only way he'll realistically be able to achieve what he's talked about wanting to do, ever since his first DVD commentary about the original film: Redesign the same creature's look.
Hear, hear.
Methinks from the interview, probably like some others do, that the main Engineer was locked up for giving humans the gift of fire by the other SJs and its the Prometheus crew that lets the Engineer out from their "punishment" which is what we would have originally thought to be their hypersleep pod.
I wouldnt be surprised to see the thing they are stuck in (suitably Gigeresque and biotech in appearance) feast on its organs only to regenerate them with biotech only for the same to happen the next day, over and over again through the hundreds of thousands of years past that time. Dark stuff, just trying to picture the biomechanical structure that would do that is pretty heavy (also the thing would regenerate the Engineer as a whole so they stay alive across that vast amount of millenia...)
It also goes with that if the plynth shown in leaked screen caps with its numerous pods had more than one Engineer on it, that some of these pods had no Ragnarok proofing and broke down, leading to the death of the other imprisoned Engineers (or even leading to an Elder and Younger one released as stated in other rumours).
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Nov 08, 2011, 09:59:44 PM
Quote from: wmmvrrvrrmm on Nov 07, 2011, 09:07:46 PM
So, DNA is scriptwriter's speak generally means "core ideas"
Always has been. It's never been referenced in any quotes to infer literal genetics. Always in reference to the DNA (in other words, structure and story formula) of the original film.
Okay. well, quite honestly I'm not up to date with screenwriters speak, I think probably when Ridley talked about it, it's the first time I've heard of it and it sounded like someone's private little language. But I did find a page about it the other day. http://johnaugust.com/2010/writing-from-theme (http://johnaugust.com/2010/writing-from-theme)
just gonna ignore the leaks for the sake of actually enjoying the movie guys
Quote from: Engineer1 on Nov 08, 2011, 07:48:30 PM
Quote from: nendo link
But how can an android be of higher being than Humans? If anything they are lower. Just because hes an android doesn't make him a higher being than us
A being that his faster, stronger and probably more intelligent than any human is in my mind a higher being.
Also his judgement and actions are not clouded by emotion and if he start to think on it's own then we are in trouble.
The creation becoming more powerful than its creator and taking over him as the next step in evolution is a recurent theme in scifi especially with artificial humans. If the replicants did not have a expiration date, they would definitly be the ruling class.
It fits the Prometheus myth and what we know of the movie so far perfectly.
Strength and speed have nothing to do with being of a higher being. Just means there strong and faster. That just like saying if a heavy weight boxer who can run extreme fast and having a PhD is of higher being than a bum who failed school and can't run.
If anything the lack of emotion makes a robot of lower being than humans. Humans are truly capable of independent though compared to a robot. Robots/ androids whatever are pre programmed with a set of pre defined behaviours. So even though they appear to be independent there are not.I don't see how that is of being of higher being when they have no independant thought
QuoteThat just like saying if a heavy weight boxer who can run extreme fast and having a PhD is of higher being than a bum who failed school and can't run.
Well your exemple won't work with me since i would tend to believe that the boxer is a higher being than the bum.
Physical abilities have everything to do with a superior being.
Prometheus was stronger than a regular human.
Take Ozymandias from Watchmen (the book not the movie) he's the pinacle of human evolution, he's free of emotion, he's like a mirror to Dr Manhattan who is actually a higher being, who is also not bound by human emotion.
The replicants are considered lower by their human creator who are in fact affraid of them.
If you did not get by the end of Blade Runner that the Replicants are higher beings than the humans that hunts them then Scott missed his point ^^
I keep quoting Blade Runner because from their interviews (and also those from Fassbender) it's the way Lindelof and Scott are going to deal with their artificial characters.
Scott did not hire Fassbender to play arigato mister roboto or some dumb pre programed machine but definitly to ask the same question as those in Blade Runner.
It just seems obvious to me that in the movie Scott is shooting (but you might be right in any other story) :
Gods = Engineers,
Prometheus = the artificial human David or Meredith
Humans = the human crew
It's fine if it's not for you.
.
We'll have to agree that we disagree ;)
Quote from: Engineer1 on Nov 10, 2011, 02:50:23 PM
We'll have to agree that we disagree ;)
Of course, let's all remember that every one of us is essentially arguing from a point of ignorance :)
Quote from: Engineer1 on Nov 10, 2011, 02:50:23 PM
QuoteThat just like saying if a heavy weight boxer who can run extreme fast and having a PhD is of higher being than a bum who failed school and can't run.
Well your exemple won't work with me since i would tend to believe that the boxer is a higher being than the bum.
Physical abilities have everything to do with a superior being.
Prometheus was stronger than a regular human.
Prometheus was a titan who ruled the earth before the gods. Prometheus was not a human he was the second generation of gods. Gods came after Titans.
If the prometheus story plays a bigger role then there could be 2 different types of alien in this. Human space jockey and then something else.
Quote from: nendo on Nov 10, 2011, 08:54:42 PM
there could be 2 different types of alien in this. Human space jockey and then something else.
Ridley hinted at this in the Alien Anthology booklet.
I keep wondering if Ridley actually said the movie was a kind of "Back to the future" in response to a question about the plot back in the Blick Interview last year in May. I suppose we'll never know. It was probably still an Alien prequel at the time though.
http://www.blick.ch/unterhaltung/kino/robin-hood-gabs-wirklich-146589 (http://www.blick.ch/unterhaltung/kino/robin-hood-gabs-wirklich-146589)
English translation from German.
72 he is. No age to give up big plans. The biggest: Alien, Part 5 "I am working on it. . It will go fast "After Hollywood era that means: The movie will come out in two years. The plot? A kind of "Back to the Future." Long before Sigourney Weaver was taking on board their space ship with the alien. Very long before. Scott is based on Erich von Daniken: "He has guessed right. Millions of years ago, there have been standing here and elsewhere more creatures. " It is a time when HR Giger's do not all monsters. "I have to create something new."
Quote from: wmmvrrvrrmm on Nov 10, 2011, 10:51:56 PM
I keep wondering if Ridley actually said the movie was a kind of "Back to the future" in response to a question about the plot back in the Blick Interview last year in May. I suppose we'll never know. It was probably still an Alien prequel at the time though.
http://www.blick.ch/unterhaltung/kino/robin-hood-gabs-wirklich-146589 (http://www.blick.ch/unterhaltung/kino/robin-hood-gabs-wirklich-146589)
English translation from German.
72 he is. No age to give up big plans. The biggest: Alien, Part 5 "I am working on it. . It will go fast "After Hollywood era that means: The movie will come out in two years. The plot? A kind of "Back to the Future." Long before Sigourney Weaver was taking on board their space ship with the alien. Very long before. Scott is based on Erich von Daniken: "He has guessed right. Millions of years ago, there have been standing here and elsewhere more creatures. " It is a time when HR Giger's do not all monsters. "I have to create something new."
Even if it was in relation to a more direct Alien prequel it seems the core ideas have carried over.
"Millions of years ago, there have been standing here and elsewhere more creatures".
What if the uncivilised place the explorers end up going to have many many many species populating it. Like on earth we have millions of animals and different races of humans. What if things are overpopulated and chaotic like in Blade Runner.
I personally hope that we've been thinking too narrowly about things in relation to Jockeys, ALIENS, Humans.
Quote from: tmjhur on Nov 11, 2011, 01:30:26 PM
Even if it was in relation to a more direct Alien prequel it seems the core ideas have carried over.
"Millions of years ago, there have been standing here and elsewhere more creatures".
Well, I'm trying to work out whether Ridley was saying that in the film they were going back to the future and the Icelandic interview misunderstood, or did he actually say, "ahem,it's a "Back to the Future" style plot but without a time traveling Delorean car"
(sorry Swiss-German, not Icelandic, I've been too busy caught up trying to make head or tail of some Icelandic to English translation of some article about Prometheus)
Well it's Lindelof so it's highly possible. And they made a comment in regards this showing what a modern tentpole science fiction can be. Which would indicate that it could have everything in it. Strange worlds, terraforming, creation-organic/biomechanoids/replicants, gods, time travel.
The Back To The Future comment most likely meant that he's going back to the franchise he started and that, now in the future (more than 30 years later) he's doing another one.
But it could also mean that the characters in the movie are going back within the movie and have to change events.
Maybe the the fight to save the future of the human race happens early on and for the rest of the film they have to go back and do things differently until BAM! they change something dramatically forever and create the ALIEN.
But we have to figure out first what the technology is that Prometheus gives to the humans. DNA CODE?
Quote from: tmjhur on Nov 11, 2011, 02:32:40 PM
Well it's Lindelof so it's highly possible. And they made a comment in regards this showing what a modern tentpole science fiction can be. Which would indicate that it could have everything in it. Strange worlds, terraforming, creation-organic/biomechanoids/replicants, gods, time travel.
I wonder if Ridley said the title to make people think that it's Lost style time travelling as a red-herring. Endless piddling
Quote from: wmmvrrvrrmm on Nov 11, 2011, 04:01:50 PM
Quote from: tmjhur on Nov 11, 2011, 02:32:40 PM
Well it's Lindelof so it's highly possible. And they made a comment in regards this showing what a modern tentpole science fiction can be. Which would indicate that it could have everything in it. Strange worlds, terraforming, creation-organic/biomechanoids/replicants, gods, time travel.
I wonder if Ridley said the title to make people think that it's Lost style time travelling as a red-herring. Endless piddling
I don't get what you mean.
Quote from: tmjhur on Nov 11, 2011, 05:54:07 PM
I don't get what you mean.
Okay, what if Ridley is deliberately trying to confuse people?
Oh right. Well I wouldn't get too sucked into the words that come out of those translations of foreign interviews. You can sometimes catch the meaning of a sentence but oftentimes a line is open to multiple interpretations. And in this context, when the interviewee is already talking in riddles and code things can become muddled even more-so.
At the moment people seem to be getting caught up in the snippet of info that "the last 8 minutes will give a pretty good DNA of the alien one." But we know from the marketsaw rumoured information that the term DNA in this case might be meant a lot more literally than just industry script talk. But again it's open to interpretation.
Anyway, now confirmed straight form horses mouth that the film ties into Alien. I guess Ridley isn't getting too bogged down in terms like Prequel and other shit.
Quote from: tmjhur on Nov 11, 2011, 07:38:28 PM
Oh right. Well I wouldn't get too sucked into the words that come out of those translations of foreign interviews.
Well, it does actually look as if the person who did the interview actually thought he said "Back To The Future" as in the movie. It's not just some product of the GoogleTranslation. Well, never mind, I suppose I'll have to wait and see if it comes back again straight from the director's mouth. I managed to ask the lady who did the Wall Street Journal if Ridley actually said Higher Beings and she said that he did and "higher Creatures" was something mentioned in the Google translation of the Blick article with no explanation, so it confusing shows the discussion going on about life forms that are "higher". (the words that translated as "higher creatures" also seems to translate as "higher beings"
<------------- Beauty&Insanity = higher being
like an angel =]
Quote from: wmmvrrvrrmm on Nov 11, 2011, 08:03:11 PM
Quote from: tmjhur on Nov 11, 2011, 07:38:28 PM
Oh right. Well I wouldn't get too sucked into the words that come out of those translations of foreign interviews.
Well, it does actually look as if the person who did the interview actually thought he said "Back To The Future" as in the movie. It's not just some product of the GoogleTranslation. Well, never mind, I suppose I'll have to wait and see if it comes back again straight from the director's mouth. I managed to ask the lady who did the Wall Street Journal if Ridley actually said Higher Beings and she said that he did and "higher Creatures" was something mentioned in the Google translation of the Blick article with no explanation, so it confusing shows the discussion going on about life forms that are "higher". (the words that translated as "higher creatures" also seems to translate as "higher beings"
Well if the Engineers created man, and man created androids. Who created the Engineers?
Quote from: tmjhur on Nov 12, 2011, 02:21:35 PM
Well if the Engineers created man, and man created androids. Who created the Engineers?
That's obviously where the Darwinians get a foot in and say that evolution created the Engineers
I've been concocting a theory about the time travel aspect and the relationship between the humans, gods etc.
I wonder will it be some weird Terminator style cycle where the Engineers are evolved humans through biomechanical parts (basically evolved androids). Who then travel a million light years across the universe and thus back in time and replant the humans on earth and......actually this is sounding so ridiculous as I type it.
Snow White and the Huntsman will be released in June of 2012 and it now has an official first trailer, and still nothing from Prometheus, not even the name of the person who's scoring the film. What gives? I'm sort of losing my patience, not that anything will happen if I lose my patience.;)
Quote from: Ash 937 on Nov 09, 2011, 02:55:41 AM
I think that the DNA that Ridley is talking about is the same sort of stuff that fans of Star Wars saw with The Phantom Menace and the other two films in the new trilogy. Even though they were introduced to an almost entirely new cast of characters, there were still instances when we got cameos from Jabba, Chewbaca, and The Death Star (as a blueprint only).
Were they talking about DNA in film stories back then?
It might be nice to find out who coined the term in the context of screenwriting
Quote from: wmmvrrvrrmm on Nov 12, 2011, 09:39:38 PM
Quote from: Ash 937 on Nov 09, 2011, 02:55:41 AM
I think that the DNA that Ridley is talking about is the same sort of stuff that fans of Star Wars saw with The Phantom Menace and the other two films in the new trilogy. Even though they were introduced to an almost entirely new cast of characters, there were still instances when we got cameos from Jabba, Chewbaca, and The Death Star (as a blueprint only).
Were they talking about DNA in film stories back then?
It might be nice to find out who coined the term in the context of screenwriting
i think it was the press release stating its no longer a direct alien prequel
Quote from: nendo on Nov 13, 2011, 12:06:33 PM
Quote from: wmmvrrvrrmm on Nov 12, 2011, 09:39:38 PM
Quote from: Ash 937 on Nov 09, 2011, 02:55:41 AM
I think that the DNA that Ridley is talking about is the same sort of stuff that fans of Star Wars saw with The Phantom Menace and the other two films in the new trilogy. Even though they were introduced to an almost entirely new cast of characters, there were still instances when we got cameos from Jabba, Chewbaca, and The Death Star (as a blueprint only).
Were they talking about DNA in film stories back then?
It might be nice to find out who coined the term in the context of screenwriting
i think it was the press release stating its no longer a direct alien prequel
hmm, Syd Field talks about his discovery of the buildings blocks of filmscripts being like DNA back in 1998 in his book "The Screenwriter's Problem Solver"
Ridley just give a damned trailer! Stop beating around the bush and give us not the full story so the film is not spoiled, but something soon! If indeed its a sort of prequel or not! Clarification please!
Question I wonder how the POOR MAN'S STAN WINSTON, ADI felt when it got the boot for this film, and Predators! LOL, LMAO!
Patience. I'm quite grateful that I don't know the A-Z, or even some of the elements, of this movie. Hopefully the trailer is more akin to ALIEN's, where we get a series of images and sounds with no story spoiled.
:) And something prompts me, there might be exactly those shots, which have leaked from Comic Con presentation...
And all these rumours about last 8 minutes of cognate DNA with original Riddley Scott's film just make me wish to watch them before the whole movie's story ;D
So Ridley Scott says this is not a prequel to Alien? well I am confused because in the article over at "Alienprequelnews" Scott says that in the last 8 minutes of Prometheus it will tie in with Alien...
well if a film is supposed to be set before another doesn't that mean its a prequel??
http://www.alienprequelnews.com/2011/11/ridley-scott-last-8-minutes-of.html (http://www.alienprequelnews.com/2011/11/ridley-scott-last-8-minutes-of.html)
Topics merged.
"The last eight minutes of the "Prometheus" story evolve into a pretty good DNA of the 'Alien' one."
...in other words we'll see the same form of story telling evolve in Prometheus that we did in Alien. That could mean a few things, but basically he's talking about the similarities from a story arc, atmosphere, characters, settings etc., non of which suggest this will be a prequel any more than we'll see an alien in there.... what's so hard to figure out about that? .
Quote from: RoaryUK on Nov 23, 2011, 07:40:02 PM
What's so hard to figure out about that? .
Craziness and hype is leading to a lot of overlooking here.
(Including myself)