https://www.murphysmultiverse.com/exclu-first-details-on-dan-trachtenbergs-comanche-predator-film/ (https://www.murphysmultiverse.com/exclu-first-details-on-dan-trachtenbergs-comanche-predator-film/) hmmm🤔
Quote from: Yautja888 on Feb 06, 2021, 05:01:46 PM
If we get too see glimpses of the new design and it looks like a 'crabator' I'll be out.My hope is that most fans will be uncompromising, this time.
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Quote from: botmetro on Feb 09, 2021, 10:14:03 PM
https://www.murphysmultiverse.com/exclu-first-details-on-dan-trachtenbergs-comanche-predator-film/ (https://www.murphysmultiverse.com/exclu-first-details-on-dan-trachtenbergs-comanche-predator-film/) hmmm🤔
I don't know how reliable is this, but if it is, then why not. Just don't turn this movie into a historical teenage drama please. And don't sink in too much modern Hollywood opinions in it either, for the sake of believability/suspension of disbelief etc.
I believe that's reliable. AvPG knows they'll be some focus on younger characters. Sounds to me like they got their hands on some casting details. We know they were in that stage when we first heard about the movie.
You beat me to it.
But yeah, from what we know it does focus on teens, we specifically heard for characters aged 15-25, so this info could be right, but keep in mind people didn't live as long way back then. Even with a young cast, I don't think you'll be seeing any teen drama vibes here. At least... I hope not...
Quote from: RidgeTop on Feb 10, 2021, 06:52:38 AM
You beat me to it.
But yeah, from what we know it does focus on teens, we specifically heard for characters aged 15-25, so this info could be right, but keep in mind people didn't live as long way back then. Even with a young cast, I don't think you'll be seeing any teen drama vibes here. At least... I hope not...
I sure hope so. Thanks to you and Hicks for the info.
Not to be meant toxic in any way, but it's funny how you guys keep going like "Here's some news for you folks, but, of course, we already knew about this months ago!"
Yet, all you're really doing is quoting other websites... you guys have first hand information? Great, but why not post it first instead of waiting for other sites to come out with the new stuff and then going like "this sums up with what we've heard"?
Also the first possible signs this will be another absolute turkey.
Lead character is a young girl?
???
Will almost certainly be a PG-13 IMO.
Quote from: Serious Business on Feb 10, 2021, 10:42:23 AM
Not to be meant toxic in any way, but it's funny how you guys keep going like "Here's some news for you folks, but, of course, we already knew about this months ago!"
Yet, all you're really doing is quoting other websites... you guys have first hand information? Great, but why not post it first instead of waiting for other sites to come out with the new stuff and then going like "this sums up with what we've heard"?
Because we respect our inside sources and only post things they're comfortable with us posting. Our sources wouldn't share sensitive info with us if we just decided to report on such info however we please.
We were the first to come out with the details of a pre-colonial setting and Native American first nations cast for Predator 5, and numerous movie news websites credited us as such:
https://screencrush.com/predator-5-set-in-past/
https://screenrant.com/predator-5-reboot-plot-details-past-setting-timeline/
https://www.looper.com/314721/predator-5-release-date-cast-and-rumors/
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/sci-fi/predator/predator-5-plot-details-for-upcoming-reboot-revealed-franchise-may-be-heading-to-the-past-a180304#gs.skha15
https://www.dreadcentral.com/news/360099/predator-plot-details-reveal-reboots-set-in-the-past/
'Who'sNick' pointed out 'Skulls' to us, because of the Trachtenberg connection and it matched what we knew.
We did not know this new info by Murphy's Multiverse such as the character names, and sibling plot dynamic. But the age of the main character from their scoop matches what we know from ours.
We also teased the Alien TV Series about 20 days before the announcement:
https://twitter.com/avpgalaxy/status/1329919767562563585
For the sake of the franchise, I hope this script will never make it to the screens.
Let's wait until we know more shall we ? :laugh:
OMG teenagers? AvP2 again? :'(
Quote from: botmetro on Feb 09, 2021, 10:14:03 PM
https://www.murphysmultiverse.com/exclu-first-details-on-dan-trachtenbergs-comanche-predator-film/ (https://www.murphysmultiverse.com/exclu-first-details-on-dan-trachtenbergs-comanche-predator-film/) hmmm🤔
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Producers meeting:
- How can we further humiliate this iconic character after so many bad films?
- I already know! We will make him die for rebellious teenagers.
My hope with this film is gone.
We found out the info is not completely accurate ladies & gents. Stay tuned!
Charles Murphy and his site are pretty reliable with Marvel leaks and news.
Updated the front-page post.
We were actually able to find a casting call for Skulls that included these character details. Originally posted as an open casting call on the 8th of January 2020 on the Tribal Film Festival Facebook page, the character details are a little different though. In this casting call Kee is actually the older of the pair.
QuoteKEE Female; 19 years old; Comanche. Her name, "Kee", means "no" in Comanche. A name she has earned by perpetually refusing to do as she is told her entire life. Kee is very close to her younger brother, Taabe, who is being groomed as a leader. As capable as any young man in the tribe, Kee has always been a teacher and source of inspiration for Taabe. In the Comanche way – she is "Patsi" – the elder sister that has helped to shape him. Kee is a truth teller and has insight that others do not. A tomboy, she wants to prove herself in the masculine world of the Comanche. When danger threatens them all – Kee sets out to prove that she is as capable as any young warrior.
TAABE Male; 17 years old (seeking 18 to play younger); Comanche. Taabe's name means "Sun", like the star in the sky – which lets you know the tribe's expectations for him – he is being groomed to be a Chief one day. Having relied on the council of his older sister, Kee, his "Patsi" for his entire life. Taabe has just had a taste of success in one of his first big hunts. As he is coming of age and fresh off of his first triumph, he feels that he's now a leader/in charge and no longer needs Kee – which causes the first rift in their very close relationship.
Given the age of the casting call on Tribal Film Festival, it's possible these details may have changed and the information Murphys Multiverse has shared is from an updated call. Thanks to AvP Galaxy staffer VoodooMagic for finding this!
Well I hope this original casting call is correct. I prefer these ages and the older sister, younger brother dynamic better.
And Xenomorphine brought up a good point to remember : Life expectancies were simply much lower in those days.
So based on the casting call it seems her brother gets his first taste of success and unfortunately for him a Predator caught notice. That might actually be a clever way to get her into the fight because even if she helps the guy, she's not a hunter or warrior and might be overlooked once the Predator initially attacks.
If they're casting now anybody think an FX studio will have started concepts? I doubt they'd slip up but if they are we should probably be on the lookout for anything in the background of FX studio posts.
It looks like they had one more female empowerment story to tell and the studio decided to put Predator in the middle because it was a famous character and could bring more attention. Tragic.
Seems like an awful lot of complaining about this small piece of character/plot info lol. Maybe Danny Trejo will make an appearance.
I'm still excited 🤷♂️
Quote from: Hunter-Killer on Feb 10, 2021, 03:19:22 PMSeems like an awful lot of complaining about this small piece of character/plot info lol.
Welcome to the internet :laugh:
Weren't the main characters in
Apocalypto teenagers? That film was brutal as f**k.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Feb 10, 2021, 03:45:32 PM
Quote from: Hunter-Killer on Feb 10, 2021, 03:19:22 PMSeems like an awful lot of complaining about this small piece of character/plot info lol.
Welcome to the internet :laugh:
Weren't the main characters in Apocalypto teenagers? That film was brutal as f**k.
I would love an apocalypto vibe for this movie so much !
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Feb 10, 2021, 03:56:39 PMI would love an apocalypto vibe for this movie so much !
Absolutely.
f**k it, get Mel Gibson to direct it.
Quote from: Hunter-Killer on Feb 10, 2021, 03:19:22 PM
Maybe Danny Trejo will make an appearance.
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Hmm sounds like a good film to me, I'd certainly go and see it.
I see some dislike for the main characters being teenagers however I'd respectfully point out that Comanche teenagers at that time were probably a lot more dangerous than anyone posting here. ;)
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 10, 2021, 02:34:37 PM
QuoteA tomboy, she wants to prove herself in the masculine world of the Comanche. When danger threatens them all – Kee sets out to prove that she is as capable as any young warrior.
:-\
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Feb 10, 2021, 03:45:32 PM
Quote from: Hunter-Killer on Feb 10, 2021, 03:19:22 PMSeems like an awful lot of complaining about this small piece of character/plot info lol.
Welcome to the internet :laugh:
Weren't the main characters in Apocalypto teenagers? That film was brutal as f**k.
Not really. The lead was 24 at the time. Maybe their character story was that of a teenager, but he didn't look like one and wasn't one for real.
This info on the movie does not sound promising.
@Voodoo Magic
Danny could totally pull off the native american role, it was mostly a snide remark against the complaints about a teenager/female protagonist, Danny being the polar opposite.
And I'm all for an Apocalypto vibe!
I'm just looking at it in comparison to Big Game, which has already been highlighted a few times, and thats pretty fulfilling.
AVP Galaxy is awesome because there are a lot of fans to have meaningful conversations with, usually having a conversation about alien and predator doesn't get much farther than people pointing at my facehugger half sleeve and saying something along the lines of "hey isn't that the crab thing from that space movie?" But I'll still make fun of the complaining.
Female empowerment and smashing down barriers, but with Predators?
::)
Commandos used to take down Predators. Now it's teenage girls.
Ach, I wish the movie well as always but I've a baaadddd feeling about this.
:laugh:
@morse
Ah, there's your problem, you're comparing it to the first movie too much
Which is ... not fair ? Original movie was arguably the only truly succesful movie in the whole franchise, of course people gonna go back to it
Yeah the characters' ages in this context isn't as much as a red flag as it might be in a modern day setting since as has been mentioned, life expectancies were a lot shorter back then and in this case I've got to imagine that late teens (hopefully if the ages are the older of the two mentioned) would be well into what was considered "adulthood" at that point.
And Danny Trejo in anything always makes it better. Just have the entire cast be played by Danny Trejo! Change the story to be a tribe of Trejos rather than Comanche! One Trejo falls, 10 more rise to take his place! It'd be box office gold, I tell you!
I think P2 was relatively successful.
I'm not saying the original should be disregarded, and I definitely love it too, but do we really want a bunch of commandos or Marines killing predators over and over again for 35 years?
I also think the teenager aspect is being underestimated, as Tstyx pointed out; I don't think Comanche teenagers are going to play a role akin to Pocahontas.
Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but I feel a lot of closed-mindedness, hopefully this will be the first good predator movie we get since predators.
Considering the original's about performative masculinity this comes across as more true to the original than anything since.
(also, didn't Dutch kill the predator by using brute force, fire, a bow, DIY explosives and mud? Comanche warriors wouldn't stand a chance 🤭)
For this. No, just no. Keep ur bs
One interesting aspect of this film is the human characters will be familiar with their surroundings/terrain more so than the other films. They will be able to use that knowledge more so once they know they have become the hunted.
Quote from: Kailem on Feb 10, 2021, 06:44:42 PM
And Danny Trejo in anything always makes it better. Just have the entire cast be played by Danny Trejo! Change the story to be a tribe of Trejos rather than Comanche! One Trejo falls, 10 more rise to take his place! It'd be box office gold, I tell you!
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Quote from: Trash Queen on Feb 10, 2021, 06:52:05 PM
Considering the original's about performative masculinity this comes across as more true to the original than anything since.
Well, rather it's been interpreted that way. I don't believe either the Thomas Brothers or John McTiernan have ever said they have chased such a lofty subtext.
Knowing Hollywood nowadays, it's totally possible they'll pull the "I'm going to show you I am a strong woman as capable as a man" card without any subtlety. But let's give it a chance nonetheless, it's in a too early development stage to be sure of anything now.
Predator vs. female Mandalorian would be sick
OOOOooooOOO
"DontdropTheSoap" is probably going to call everyone snowflakes while sticking the middle finger at his phone screen.
A true colonial marine to put us in our place haha
Quote from: Hunter-Killer on Feb 10, 2021, 06:35:41 PM
@morse
Ah, there's your problem, you're comparing it to the first movie too much
I was thinking about all of them to be honest. Soldiers & grizzled cops etc now a teenage Indian girl? I applaud looking to do something different but this doesn't seem plausible at all. Are we really saying a young girl, whose unlikely to even be allowed to go out hunting with her male peers, will be a believable adversary for the galaxies most formidable hunter?
I could see a story of a female clashing with male dominance and the prevailing culture in that world but I wonder why you'd shoehorn a Predator into that story? Not that the lead shouldn't be female, as an Alien fan like everyone here I've never cared that Ripley was a woman.
I'm obviously just debating. It's what we are on here to do right. There's clearly much more to come out and we only have a snippet of information to go on right now.
@morse
Well met, I don't mind a good debate. I can't wait for the first trailer
Quote from: Morse on Feb 10, 2021, 06:26:28 PM
Female empowerment and smashing down barriers, but with Predators?
::)
Commandos used to take down Predators. Now it's teenage girls.
Ach, I wish the movie well as always but I've a baaadddd feeling about this.
:laugh:
Didn't Dutch's team die horribly with Dutch gaining massive PTSD and radiation poisoning? The whole squad is also dead by The Predator's end and it's probably fair to say they're not commandos.
This premise can be saved if this is the movie in which Predator doesn't die at the end.
Also hoping for a cool new predator, not one that makes f**king lion noises like avp
So does this mean the main character is a Mary Sioux?
I got the impression we could see a younger vesion of a predator from one of the films we have seen
I hope we see some elders do battle with the predator.
Fingers crossed this works
Maybe all the elders and warriors have been killed by preds, so the youths have to step up . I wanna see a predator fight a grizzly bear with only a blade.
What if preds brings something to hunt on earth....something big and not of this world.
Right because the most dangerous game is a teenager with control issues. Stop using franchises for an audience that doesn't exist. Still trying to be optimistic, the setting is promising but wow, this is not what I wanted to hear. Hoping this is for a flashback of the main character.
Quote from: Huggs on Feb 10, 2021, 10:56:20 PM
So does this mean the main character is a Mary Sioux?
heh
By the way, wasn't all this information leaked? Wasn't it initially not supposed to be presented as a predator movie in the first place?
Quote from: Lost_Hunter on Feb 10, 2021, 11:35:16 PM
Right because the most dangerous game is a teenager with control issues. Stop using franchises for an audience that doesn't exist. Still trying to be optimistic, the setting is promising but wow, this is not what I wanted to hear. Hoping this is for a flashback of the main character.
Well the thought process of a young 17 year old Comanche warrior is different from the current generation. Not to mention the main character is a is 19 years old, that's not teenager age anymore. It would make sense if the Predator itself was a Young Blood like how City Hunter was in P2.
Quote from: Hunter-Killer on Feb 10, 2021, 06:52:53 PM
(also, didn't Dutch kill the predator by using brute force, fire, a bow, DIY explosives and mud? Comanche warriors wouldn't stand a chance 🤭)
Not that much different that the Comanche warriors would need to use to fight the Predator. They just won't have explosives in their arsenal.
You're a teenager as long as there is teen in your age.
Keep the name shooting name Skulls as the title, honestly. Subverts franchise expectations and is bad ass either way.
Quote from: SiL on Feb 11, 2021, 01:38:02 AM
You're a teenager as long as there is teen in your age.
Soldiers were drafted or enlisted in war when they were 16 and above before recent times, as the age restriction was lifted to 18 years old for WWII. Marquis de Lafayette was around 18 or 19 years old when he was serving under George Washington with a command of his own men as well during the American Revolution. And since this was either during pre or post colonial times, its not strange to see 17 year olds and above fighting in wars.
My point is that the siblings being 17 and 19 won't hurt the film as timewise and culturally speaking they have a different mindset of today's young generation.
I mean great but they were all still teenagers. You're a teenager between 13 and 19.
The brother will be a jerk and die. Kee will become the new chief.
It's not hard to guess.
Quote from: Huggs on Feb 10, 2021, 10:56:20 PMSo does this mean the main character is a Mary Sioux?
:laugh:
>:(
Great, another flop coming, Jesus.
;D
The amount of panic over the films story
Anyone would think the film was being Impeached :laugh: :laugh:
I believe you :laugh:
We must wait for the movie to be released. Then one can properly judge if is good, bad or just ok. Hopefully with actual criticism and not conservative correctness bs :P👎
As always I'm super pumped for a new Predator film. I honestly don't mind a female protagonist. I'm a little concerned with a teenage cast. I hope it's not an AVP R All over again. I hope it's not fraught with "typical teenage" issues. Bullies, sappy love interests, mean girls, blah blah blah. Some one else in this thread mentioned targeting a young audience is a mistake and I agree with that sentiment. I'd love to know the typical age demographics of predator fans. I bet it's more like 20s and above.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 11, 2021, 01:30:36 PM
I believe you :laugh:
We must wait for the movie to be released. Then one can properly judge if is good, bad or just ok. Hopefully with actual criticism and not conservative correctness bs :P👎
Of course, of course...
Spoiler
But when it comes out and turns out to be the worst Predator movie ever - I'll be there and laughing. Laughing hard. Bwahahahaha :D
I think the setup for this movie could be a great occasion to tackle those subjects (a female in a male warrior society, the trouble of being a young one that has everything to prove) in a new and darker, more mature way than what we often saw. I hope they'll take this approach, it will be fitting in a predator movie also.
Quote from: Enjoy on Feb 10, 2021, 10:57:29 PM
I wanna see a predator fight a grizzly bear with only a blade.
Yes please!!!
Voodoo Magic wants to see danny trejo fight a grizzly predator with only a blade
Don't care if its a female protagonist. Teenagers are going to be an optic to overcome though. No AVPR nonsense.
Quote from: Hunter-Killer on Feb 11, 2021, 04:25:20 PM
Voodoo Magic wants to see danny trejo fight a grizzly predator with only a blade
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Quote from: SiL on Feb 11, 2021, 08:24:12 AM
I mean great but they were all still teenagers. You're a teenager between 13 and 19.
Being a teenager will not ruin the movie though. Again different mindset during different eras and cultures.
I repeat, I don't see why everyone is getting upset over teens, young adults or whatever. As if the adults in movies haven't acted so stupid or immature themselves. Hell I've seen teenagers behave better than most adults out here, I mean have you seen what's going on lately? People gotta chill man, it ain't that deep fam.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Feb 11, 2021, 06:42:41 PMI repeat, I don't see why everyone is getting upset over teens, young adults or whatever.
Tbf it moistly seems to be the one-hit-wonder guest users who are shitposting this.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Feb 11, 2021, 07:13:39 PM
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Feb 11, 2021, 06:42:41 PMI repeat, I don't see why everyone is getting upset over teens, young adults or whatever.
Tbf it moistly seems to be the one-hit-wonder guest users who are shitposting this.
Ha, moist.
I'm really hyped for this.
So in wikipedia, its said that the new film is taking place during the time of the American civil war? I don't think its been fully cleared out on the timeframe huh?
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Feb 11, 2021, 09:34:15 PM
So in wikipedia, its said that the new film is coming out during the time of the American civil war? I don't think its been fully cleared out on the timeframe huh?
???
Coming out ?
Taking place ?
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Feb 11, 2021, 09:49:46 PM
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Feb 11, 2021, 09:34:15 PM
So in wikipedia, its said that the new film is coming out during the time of the American civil war? I don't think its been fully cleared out on the timeframe huh?
???
Coming out ?
To a zoetrope near you.
Should we be sending predator films back in time to the Civil War? Maybe
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I clowned myself again!!!
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But yeah, now I'm hearing the backdrop for the film will be during the American Civil War. Which would make sense seeing that thats when the Comanche were the harden warrior tribes that they are very famously known for. Riding on horseback, using bows/arrows, Winchester repeating rifles, and all that. Again, its still not yet clear on whats its really going to be.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Feb 11, 2021, 10:00:53 PM
I clowned myself again!!!
At least you aint that other Turok.
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 11, 2021, 02:15:28 PM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 11, 2021, 01:30:36 PM
I believe you :laugh:
We must wait for the movie to be released. Then one can properly judge if is good, bad or just ok. Hopefully with actual criticism and not conservative correctness bs :P👎
Of course, of course...
Spoiler
But when it comes out and turns out to be the worst Predator movie ever - I'll be there and laughing. Laughing hard. Bwahahahaha :D
Well if that even happens, you will be a hero, and not just an average hero, but...
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It could be interrsting to see what teenager the predator decides is old enouggh to hunt lol
Teenagers looked older back then..... ;)
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I clowned myself again!!!
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But yeah, now I'm hearing the backdrop for the film will be during the American Civil War. Which would make sense seeing that thats when the Comanche were the harden warrior tribes that they are very famously known for. Riding on horseback, using bows/arrows, Winchester repeating rifles, and all that. Again, its still not yet clear on whats its really going to be.
That could be a safer film to make for the studio.
Quote from: Enjoy on Feb 11, 2021, 11:06:24 PM
It could be interrsting to see what teenager the predator decides is old enouggh to hunt lol
Teenagers looked older back then..... ;)
Well the life expectancy in ancient greece was 25 to 28. I imagine men looked older with their beards and all that :laugh:
During the Pre-Columbian in what is now United States was 25 ~ 30. At 19th century was around 40 years for males and 42 years for females (in case the movie takes place during the Civil War).
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Feb 11, 2021, 07:13:39 PM
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Feb 11, 2021, 06:42:41 PMI repeat, I don't see why everyone is getting upset over teens, young adults or whatever.
Tbf it moistly seems to be the one-hit-wonder guest users who are shitposting this.
People sometimes forget that watching movies is a voluntary experience.
I keep thinking this is probably the place we're gonna get a cinematic female Predator. It'd kind of work for our villain since if our protagonist is looking for some respect she'd have to take down thing that's got it. Predators never really struck me as any creature that gave a shit about gender roles so that'd be a good dynamic to have a villain who not only has the respect but has no idea why it wouldn't. What if they have two Predators to play off the dynamic of the brother and sister? Our villains who simply don't know and doesn't give a shit about gender roles versus the heroes who do and are trying to work through it.
I mean I'm just talking out of my ass but I have that feeling we're gonna see the female this time especially since Fox did approve the female design over on Hunting Grounds.
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Feb 12, 2021, 12:54:51 AM
I keep thinking this is probably the place we're gonna get a cinematic female Predator.
I'm all for it 8)
I'de be down
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 11, 2021, 11:53:16 PM
Quote from: Enjoy on Feb 11, 2021, 11:06:24 PM
It could be interrsting to see what teenager the predator decides is old enouggh to hunt lol
Teenagers looked older back then..... ;)
Well the life expectancy in ancient greece was 25 to 28. I imagine men looked older with their beards and all that :laugh:
During the Pre-Columbian in what is now United States was 25 ~ 30. At 19th century was around 40 years for males and 42 years for females (in case the movie takes place during the Civil War).
I'm gunna be that guy and point out that average life expectancy includes infant mortality, and that if you made it to adulthood at all you had a fair chance of getting old.
Socrates was about 70 when he died; Plato was 80.
Well that's novel, not sure how I feel about it to be honest.
We've had Arnie and a bunch of 30-40 somethings for a while now with varying success (Predator obviously, I'd put predators second Predator 2 third, not really considering the rest as having happened)
It'd be interesting to see how this pans out, if they can make compelling well written characters, plot and set design then get some really solid editing and tight, suspenseful direction I'll be pretty happy :)
I really miss John McTiernan to be honest
SiL - with respect, as a classically educated half Greek with a focus on Greek philosophy I can say this, we can't even prove Socrates existed, let alone his age at time of death. This is despite the school of thought and precious lessons and perspectives the thought processes attributed to him (or amalgamation of people) that enrich the world ;)
Quote from: morseman on Feb 12, 2021, 07:55:37 AM
SiL - with respect, as a classically educated half Greek with a focus on Greek philosophy I can say this, we can't even prove Socrates existed, let alone his age at time of death. This is despite the school of thought and precious lessons and perspectives the thought processes attributed to him (or amalgamation of people) that enrich the world ;)
My apologies for continuing to derail the thread, but indeed! famous historical figures whose existence is uncertain are a real thing, sometimes due to cultural syncretism. Here are some examples.
Spoiler
Pitagoras
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Lycurgus
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Hermes Trismegistus
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Quote from: [cancerblack] on Feb 12, 2021, 04:47:30 AM
I'm gunna be that guy and point out that average life expectancy includes infant mortality, and that if you made it to adulthood at all you had a fair chance of getting old.
I am not saying that old people did not exist in the ancient world. But the advancement of medicine has extended life expectancy. Many diseases have been eradicated with vaccines. Yes, as we get older we become susceptible to some types of cancer, but there are more chances of reaching old age than in ancient times.
Some diseases and the deaths they produced were associated with superstition and the supernatural. And yes, ancient people could have develop some kind of cancer too.
Spoiler
https://twitter.com/SOPHiAGENETICS/status/764872136787894272
Quote from: morseman on Feb 12, 2021, 07:55:37 AM
SiL - with respect, as a classically educated half Greek with a focus on Greek philosophy I can say this, we can't even prove Socrates existed, let alone his age at time of death.
Leaves Plato.
Even assuming neither existed, historical data does show that life expectancy throughout human history was reasonably high if you survived childhood.
Immortan is likely going by a statistic that says a newborn's life expectancy was 40 (true in 17th century Britain, for example); but the life expectancy of a ten year old was late 50s, life expectancy of a 20 year old was 60s, and basically you'd cap out around the 80 mark until the 19th century and its advancements in medical care and hygiene.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 12, 2021, 02:02:59 PM
I am not saying that old people did not exist in the ancient world. But the advancement of medicine has extended life expectancy. Many diseases have been eradicated with vaccines. Yes, as we get older we become susceptible to some types of cancer, but there are more chances of reaching old age than in ancient times.
That still ignores the skew on historical averages. You were much more likely to die as an infant or child than you are today, but once you made it to adulthood you were more or less "safe".
Yes medicine has improved, but people have been getting old and grey forever and it wasn't just rare outliers - most adults who didn't die to violence would reach advanced age, they didn't magically drop dead at forty.
Murphy's Multiverse is fake news. Not always, but in most cases. When he's right, its an educated guess at best. People wake up already, all these podcasts/fan Facebook rumors sites are. Hard to believe the unassuming still buy this.
Okay you win.
So because life expectancy was lower that makes someone whose 18 older? Am I reading this nonsense right?
Morse...
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Quote from: Morse on Feb 13, 2021, 12:34:27 PM
So because life expectancy was lower that makes someone whose 18 older? Am I reading this nonsense right?
People used to get married at like 12 years old in historic times.
18 was absolutely adulthood.
Quote from: Trash Queen on Feb 13, 2021, 03:35:06 PM
Morse...
https://y.yarn.co/af2174f3-c9c1-4817-a244-c3478b53e970_text.gif
We should tolerate anybody. Even the intolerable
Sigh.
At this point they've no interest in making a timeless classic, just pushing feminism and modern political agendas in film and entertainment in because everyone in the business these days is a self-righteous peon that can't seperate art from artist. Not interested in following trends, much more interested in quality filmmaking not trying to preach or lecture the audience.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Feb 11, 2021, 03:30:53 AM
Quote from: SiL on Feb 11, 2021, 01:38:02 AM
You're a teenager as long as there is teen in your age.
Soldiers were drafted or enlisted in war when they were 16 and above before recent times, as the age restriction was lifted to 18 years old for WWII. Marquis de Lafayette was around 18 or 19 years old when he was serving under George Washington with a command of his own men as well during the American Revolution. And since this was either during pre or post colonial times, its not strange to see 17 year olds and above fighting in wars.
My point is that the siblings being 17 and 19 won't hurt the film as timewise and culturally speaking they have a different mindset of today's young generation.
Audie Murphy was only 19 when he earned the Medal of Honor - and youngest to ever earn it was 13. So I don't get all the complaining of a teenager being the main character. Teenagers have proved themselves in battle for well over 100 years and beyond. Granted, I would be severely letdown if the story focused on BS like love interests/growing pains of teens, etc.
Quote from: overthere on Feb 10, 2021, 10:31:01 PM
This premise can be saved if this is the movie in which Predator doesn't die at the end.
I would really like to see the Predator survive for once - and not just in this film...others as well. There have been plenty of movies where the antagonist survives and does well from a audience reception perspective (e.g., Saw, No Country for Old Men, Usual Suspects - to name a few, imo).
So I was doing more digging into Comanche history, and right from the main website of the tribe, they have a small bio of their tribe's history. Which now makes the info of the movie not line up so well.
QuoteWe are the Comanche Nation and in our native language "Nʉmʉnʉʉ" (NUH-MUH-NUH) which means, "The People". We are known as "Lords of the Plains" and were once a part of the Shoshone Tribe. In the late 1600's and early 1700's we moved off from our Shoshone kinsmen onto the northern Plains and then southerly in search a new homeland.
https://comanchenation.com/
From what I gathered, it was about the same time that the Comanche formed and separated from their parent tribe when Europeans started to settle in the Americas, as they did late 17th and early 18th century. Historically, the Comanche were not even a thing pre-European times, which would be about early 16th century and before. They would still be Shoshone.
So the question is, what gives? Do they not have any Comanche historians advising on this film? Or is it simply that we do not have the full details of this film just yet?
As for Kee's situation on gender norms.....to the surprise of all those naysayers and anti-sjws, it actually holds historical precedent.
QuoteComancheria was not a politically or economically united whole. Instead, it was a nomadic empire of multiple autonomous bands, rooted in decentralized political power, kinship, and intra-ethnic exchange. They had no permanent settlements or demarcations of private property but instead asserted their control through naming places and controlling access to specific sites such as cemeteries, sacred spaces, and hunting grounds.
https://www.thoughtco.com/comanche-people-4783882
So Kee's struggle in establishing herself as a capable warrior is a valid goal for her if her tribal band specifically has set rules that limits her options in life. Again, one must not forget that the entire movie is a stealth Predator film so one can say the original premises can be abandoned as the situation changes now dealing with an extraterrestrial hunter from across the stars.
As I said before, the subject is not a problem, the way it is treated could be one. That will be decisive. Subtlety or no subtlety etc.
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Feb 12, 2021, 12:54:51 AM
I keep thinking this is probably the place we're gonna get a cinematic female Predator. It'd kind of work for our villain since if our protagonist is looking for some respect she'd have to take down thing that's got it. Predators never really struck me as any creature that gave a shit about gender roles so that'd be a good dynamic to have a villain who not only has the respect but has no idea why it wouldn't. What if they have two Predators to play off the dynamic of the brother and sister? Our villains who simply don't know and doesn't give a shit about gender roles versus the heroes who do and are trying to work through it.
I mean I'm just talking out of my ass but I have that feeling we're gonna see the female this time especially since Fox did approve the female design over on Hunting Grounds.
I like this idea :) Would like to finally get a female Predator, and it seems like this movie would be a great opportunity for it to make an appearance.
Not feeling the dual Predators. Back to basics please! But I'd love to see the female Predator as the central antagonist, especially if it mirrors what we've been dealt in Hunting Grounds!
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Yeah, sure, why not
Some good points there, also worth of consideration that (at least in Athens) one could only become a citizen following military service and also after their 27th year; this suggests life expectancy were quite high at least in Athens, not so much in Sparta however ;).
Great points SiL and Immortan Jonesy :)
Anyway, back to the subject at hand lol
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 22, 2021, 07:25:17 PM
Not feeling the dual Predators. Back to basics please! But I'd love to see the female Predator as the central antagonist, especially if it mirrors what we've been dealt in Hunting Grounds!
https://cdn.wccftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/WCCFpredatorhuntinggrounds6.jpg
I still feel the same way about Predatits as you do about Crabators. :P
And I'm OK with both of them :D
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Feb 23, 2021, 07:49:06 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 22, 2021, 07:25:17 PM
Not feeling the dual Predators. Back to basics please! But I'd love to see the female Predator as the central antagonist, especially if it mirrors what we've been dealt in Hunting Grounds!
https://cdn.wccftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/WCCFpredatorhuntinggrounds6.jpg
I still feel the same way about Predatits as you do about Crabators. :P
Now all you need is three films to feature it and 17 years to stew within. :)
Have it worked for you though ?
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 23, 2021, 02:29:38 PM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Feb 23, 2021, 07:49:06 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 22, 2021, 07:25:17 PM
Not feeling the dual Predators. Back to basics please! But I'd love to see the female Predator as the central antagonist, especially if it mirrors what we've been dealt in Hunting Grounds!
https://cdn.wccftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/WCCFpredatorhuntinggrounds6.jpg
I still feel the same way about Predatits as you do about Crabators. :P
Now all you need is three films to feature it and 17 years to stew within. :)
Dunno about films but it's been making me cringe for 20+ years.
Well fan art etc. is a little easier to avoid I think. ;)
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/51dc1f31-80a9-4d1f-ad3c-c15333d5b8a5/ddhcdxk-92966825-5932-44ef-b7af-1ca1f5636a06.png/v1/fill/w_800,h_1391,q_80,strp/female_predator__by_ariajr_ddhcdxk-fullview.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3siaGVpZ2h0IjoiPD0xMzkxIiwicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvNTFkYzFmMzEtODBhOS00ZDFmLWFkM2MtYzE1MzMzZDViOGE1XC9kZGhjZHhrLTkyOTY2ODI1LTU5MzItNDRlZi1iN2FmLTFjYTFmNTYzNmEwNi5wbmciLCJ3aWR0aCI6Ijw9ODAwIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmltYWdlLm9wZXJhdGlvbnMiXX0.8XEp9LxnP5cwyXhVKz_RdMQShX0tYRWxzJEjRxzS1q4)
Mostly unrelated though, I like what's going on with this female Predator's head. It reminds me of that wild unproduced Cool Props bust.
IMO the worst thing about the Predboobs is that such a beatiful thing as female tities are combined with a head of a ugly f**king Predator. It's like mixing wine with motor oil
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 23, 2021, 07:14:28 PM
IMO the worst thing about the Predboobs is that such a beatiful thing as female tities are combined with a head of a ugly f**king Predator. It's like mixing wine with motor oil
Hey, don't diss the Benzoil Surprise til you've tried it.
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 23, 2021, 07:14:28 PM
IMO the worst thing about the Predboobs is that such a beatiful thing as female tities are combined with a head of a ugly f**king Predator. It's like mixing wine with motor oil
They have helmets.
Quote from: Huggs on Feb 23, 2021, 11:29:43 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 23, 2021, 07:14:28 PM
IMO the worst thing about the Predboobs is that such a beatiful thing as female tities are combined with a head of a ugly f**king Predator. It's like mixing wine with motor oil
They have helmets.
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/twobestfriendsplay/images/f/fa/Predator_College_Tina_Window.png/revision/latest?cb=20130823042853)
I mean it's still a 7-8 foot tall monster that wants to tear my head off. Gonna be honest, even if it had a beautiful face I still don't want to run into that tits or not.
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This thread, it grows hot.
I see someone is a fan of Plague of Gripes. I loved the Super Best Friends playthrough on Predator Concrete Jungle.
For the reasons I seen though, I understand why boobs on a female pred is dumb but also the internet will always find a way so as long as the initial design isn't insane than its fine. Its why HG has a very tame and even acceptable take which is all I need. The head crest design that Voodoo posted has to go though and stay far away from any female Predator designs, it looks like a Queen's crown and I don't want the alien designs to be that intertwined with each other.
Quote from: Huggs on Feb 24, 2021, 12:00:28 AM
This thread, it grows hot.
Huggs Pictured:
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Quote from: Trash Queen on Feb 23, 2021, 08:32:56 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 23, 2021, 07:14:28 PM
Some dumb shit idk
Lmao
play nice fam
Quote from: Trash Queen on Feb 23, 2021, 11:38:12 PM
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/twobestfriendsplay/images/f/fa/Predator_College_Tina_Window.png/revision/latest?cb=20130823042853
and my sex soul is now hella confused
The only issue I might could see with the crest would be tastefully blending it with a mask. But that probably wouldn't be a big problem.
Quote from: Trash Queen on Feb 24, 2021, 12:20:36 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Feb 24, 2021, 12:00:28 AM
This thread, it grows hot.
Huggs Pictured:
https://i.makeagif.com/media/2-24-2021/g4ANjd.gif
Yes, I became lost in an entirely different genre for a moment there.
Quote from: Trash Queen on Feb 23, 2021, 11:49:34 PM
https://i.makeagif.com/media/2-23-2021/Og2DOi.gif
:laugh:
What is that from?
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Feb 24, 2021, 12:14:05 AM
I see someone is a fan of Plague of Gripes. I loved the Super Best Friends playthrough on Predator Concrete Jungle.
For the reasons I seen though, I understand why boobs on a female pred is dumb but also the internet will always find a way so as long as the initial design isn't insane than its fine. Its why HG has a very tame and even acceptable take which is all I need. The head crest design that Voodoo posted has to go though and stay far away from any female Predator designs, it looks like a Queen's crown and I don't want the alien designs to be that intertwined with each other.
Nah, not to me! I'm very much a fan of that type of design for the female.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/ext_tw_video_thumb/1080573942451056652/pu/img/mYwagJxivIsj4Rjv.jpg)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 24, 2021, 03:59:23 AM
Quote from: Trash Queen on Feb 23, 2021, 11:49:34 PM
https://i.makeagif.com/media/2-23-2021/Og2DOi.gif
:laugh:
What is that from?
Play Concrete Jungle already AVPG team.
It's batshit, awful and great all at once.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 24, 2021, 03:59:23 AM
Quote from: Trash Queen on Feb 23, 2021, 11:49:34 PM
https://i.makeagif.com/media/2-23-2021/Og2DOi.gif
:laugh:
What is that from?
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Feb 24, 2021, 12:14:05 AM
I see someone is a fan of Plague of Gripes. I loved the Super Best Friends playthrough on Predator Concrete Jungle.
For the reasons I seen though, I understand why boobs on a female pred is dumb but also the internet will always find a way so as long as the initial design isn't insane than its fine. Its why HG has a very tame and even acceptable take which is all I need. The head crest design that Voodoo posted has to go though and stay far away from any female Predator designs, it looks like a Queen's crown and I don't want the alien designs to be that intertwined with each other.
Nah, not to me! I'm very much a fan of that type of design for the female.
https://pbs.twimg.com/ext_tw_video_thumb/1080573942451056652/pu/img/mYwagJxivIsj4Rjv.jpg
I'm down with this head design 8)
Quote from: Trash Queen on Feb 24, 2021, 05:02:38 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 24, 2021, 03:59:23 AM
Quote from: Trash Queen on Feb 23, 2021, 11:49:34 PM
https://i.makeagif.com/media/2-23-2021/Og2DOi.gif
:laugh:
What is that from?
https://youtu.be/qsR2hAYEQ7U
Thanjs!
Now what did I just watch? :laugh:
QuotePlay Concrete Jungle already AVPG team.
It's batshit, awful and great all at once.
RidgeTop rings this bell every once in a while too. :)
Quote from: Wysps on Feb 24, 2021, 05:20:48 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 24, 2021, 03:59:23 AM
Quote from: Trash Queen on Feb 23, 2021, 11:49:34 PM
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:laugh:
What is that from?
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Feb 24, 2021, 12:14:05 AM
I see someone is a fan of Plague of Gripes. I loved the Super Best Friends playthrough on Predator Concrete Jungle.
For the reasons I seen though, I understand why boobs on a female pred is dumb but also the internet will always find a way so as long as the initial design isn't insane than its fine. Its why HG has a very tame and even acceptable take which is all I need. The head crest design that Voodoo posted has to go though and stay far away from any female Predator designs, it looks like a Queen's crown and I don't want the alien designs to be that intertwined with each other.
Nah, not to me! I'm very much a fan of that type of design for the female.
https://pbs.twimg.com/ext_tw_video_thumb/1080573942451056652/pu/img/mYwagJxivIsj4Rjv.jpg
I'm down with this head design 8)
#TeamQueenCrown :)
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I did not expect to see Pred jugs when I entered this thread LOL
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 24, 2021, 03:59:23 AM
Nah, not to me! I'm very much a fan of that type of design for the female.
https://pbs.twimg.com/ext_tw_video_thumb/1080573942451056652/pu/img/mYwagJxivIsj4Rjv.jpg
Don't get me wrong, I want the female counterparts to look a bit more unique from their male counterparts, but I just don't want Alien and Predator being
too married to each other in terms of property, design, and lore. It falls into the backyard syndrome where the universe is smaller than it was supposed to be and everything is closer to home than you think it is. The Predator is no longer a Predator anymore, it has too look like their enemy now, cuz they fight each other all the time right? That's how it works? Its like how the Space Jockey is no longer an alien no more, just a tall pale man with black eyes. The Space Jockey in the first film is no longer truly alien anymore, the sense of awe and wonder is gone as its closer to us due to being our creators and with David being our creation, he created the xenomorphs and now everything must be connected. Space is no longer vast and terrifying than we originally thought it was. We can't have uniqueness, fear, or mystery of the unknown no more.
I also know someone will say that "why not", as its a fictional race, but fail to understand that its too close to the Alien franchise and not something that stands on its own as a Predator trait. The alien is supposed to steal traits from its host, not the other way around.
Plus it just looks uncreative, just slap the crest from the Queen alien with a glue gun and there, "good" creature design. No more thought process needed. Its just the same as not putting actual proper mandibles on a Predator. Why bother? Its mandibles! You know Preds have mandibles so why should it even be properly constructed like the first two movies if you know they are mandibles? If you get the idea, than everything should be fine and dandy! In the end, its not even canon anyway so at least there is that.
I will say, as a final word, the one time I can see the design work is with Sister Midnight from the Witchblade/Darkness crossover can make it work. She makes it regal and shadowy looking.
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Feb 24, 2021, 06:05:50 PM
I did not expect to see Pred jugs when I entered this thread LOL
I apologize lol
I'm seeing an awful lot of moaning about the lead being a teenage girl in this thread, and like... FOLKS.
A 19 year-old Comanche warrior, boy or girl, would beat the shit out of anyone in this thread. Those folks WERE NOT f**king around.
Indeed.
Quote from: Naginata on Mar 02, 2021, 01:03:13 AM
A 19 year-old Comanche warrior, boy or girl, would beat the shit out of anyone in this thread. Those folks WERE NOT f**king around.
Thank you
all the moaning about a "teenage girl" as the lead is just toxic masculinity speaking lmao
Ahem... With no weapons ? I'm not so sure about that. Probably some people here who would beat her to a pulp. And I don't mean two or three people.
At face value, I can see how a teenage male or female lead versus a Predator can cause a stir among fandom. Since Disney has acquired it, there has been a concern over the "Disneyfication" of Predator where they might take the franchise and soften it, perhaps even to the degree the Twighlight or Hunger Games fare.
But in context, knowing that 19 years old is considered an adult today, that Comanche natives had a much shorter lifespan and would marry around the age of 12, it seems very historically appropriate, and hopefully will be treated as such. :)
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 03, 2021, 03:29:04 PM
Ahem... With no weapons ? I'm not so sure about that. Probably some people here who would beat her to a pulp. And I don't mean two or three people.
sure thing fam I'd blow anyone into chunks given proper prep -- it all depends on context
which we don't have
Quote from: Omegamorph on Mar 03, 2021, 04:57:42 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 03, 2021, 03:29:04 PM
Ahem... With no weapons ? I'm not so sure about that. Probably some people here who would beat her to a pulp. And I don't mean two or three people.
sure thing fam I'd blow anyone into chunks given proper prep -- it all depends on context
which we don't have
Not anyone, a 19 yo comanche girl with no weapons. And a 19 yo comanche girl with no weapons... Still is a 19 yo girl. Not dangerous or capable of doing something ? Sure she can. But sure also many people in here would kick her ass just based on pure strength, weight advantages etc.
Not much context needed either IMO. A way heavier guy against an unarmed badass girl, still I'll bet my money on the guy, even with no martial arts background for him.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 03, 2021, 06:51:51 PM
Quote from: Omegamorph on Mar 03, 2021, 04:57:42 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 03, 2021, 03:29:04 PM
Ahem... With no weapons ? I'm not so sure about that. Probably some people here who would beat her to a pulp. And I don't mean two or three people.
sure thing fam I'd blow anyone into chunks given proper prep -- it all depends on context
which we don't have
Not anyone, a 19 yo comanche girl with no weapons. And a 19 yo comanche girl with no weapons... Still is a 19 yo girl. Not dangerous or capable of doing something ? Sure she can. But sure also many people in here would kick her ass just based on pure strength, weight advantages etc.
Not much context needed either IMO. A way heavier guy against an unarmed badass girl, still I'll bet my money on the guy, even with no martial arts background for him.
A young woman trained from a warrior tribe that is famously known to successfully resist many armies and tribes for a very long time that basically lives and breaths war daily vs...... some couch potato or normie. The same tribe that is famously known to fight to the death as captured alive is meant torture from their enemies which is something they want to avoid at all costs? Not to mention smaller and skinner men knocked out bigger and more muscular ones based on simply having the right fist at the right place. A mean right hook is a mean right hook, no matter what.
Sure dude yeah this fight is a no brainer....
One punch from a 200 Ibs couch potato and it's lights out, no matter how many wars you've been in. No brainer indeed, money's still on the normie.
Smaller and skinnier men still stronger than most girls because biology. And a mean right hook from a trained 19yo girl is less powerful than a mean right hook from a 200 Ibs regular guy.
Just curious, how this 19yo warrior chick's gonna wreck a way stronger regular man with her bare hands ?
Weight and reach are generally the deciding factors in any fight.
But we're talking about Predator where smaller combatants using cunning or tenacity to take out larger foes is like, the main theme.
I agree. All I'm saying is that one punch from a regular 200 Ibs guy and it's goodbye guaranteed.
One punch from a well trained 19yo girl and it's not necessarily goodbye guaranteed. Trust me, I took many.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 03, 2021, 07:56:32 PM
One punch from a 200 Ibs couch potato and it's lights out, no matter how many wars you've been in. No brainer indeed, money's still on the normie.
Smaller and skinnier men still stronger than most girls because biology. And a mean right hook from a trained 19yo girl is less powerful than a mean right hook from a 200 Ibs regular guy.
Simple, if the man never trained or has any experience in his day of his life, his hits will never make contact unless he has fortunate luck. If you can't catch your opponent, you will not do nothing to your opponent. The reflexes of a warrior, be it a male or female 19 year old will be far faster and hits much harder than the normie.
Look at the example of an aged Cus d'Amato
The man is old, but he know when and how to hit Muhammed Ali and you even see Ali being surprised by the man's quick reaction. Thats just decades of training in his mind which we all know eventually he trains Mike Tyson that became a legend himself. Age barely slowed him down, and thats an elderly man. I can imagine the youth of a young woman with a warrior heritage doing worse to a 200lb normie.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 03, 2021, 07:56:32 PM
Just curious, how this 19yo warrior chick's gonna wreck a way stronger regular man with her bare hands ?
If the young woman who has been trained and lived under a warrior tribe for all her life, its not strange that she would know some form of hand to hand combat as various native american tribes had their own art of combat. With the Comanche famously/infamously being known to focus on war than any other native american tribe out there, its not hard to imagine their own system of hand to hand combat, kind of like any warrior culture like Vikings or Spartans.
So just like the many forms of war out there with hand to hand combat training, but they have similar ways to finish the job; Go for the throat, crush the layrx, bend the arm in a way that should not ever bend, wear down your opponent to create an opening for her to target, use the weight of your opponent against them by hooking the incoming fist and using momentum to throw him over the shoulder lay the man on his back and in turn finish him off with a neck stop, kick, knee, punch, ect.
I'm not entirely familiar with any existing native american art of war due to lost history but I know there are some systems that are still alive today. If you want historical reference of capable female warriors, one can look at the Dahomey Amazons, an all woman warrior regiment for the Kingdom of Dahomey or even Running Eagle a native american woman of the Blackfoot tribe that lead many war parties for her tribe.
There was one famous account in the Dahomey Amazons, when assaulted the French city of Kotonou on March 4, 1890, that at one point during this battle, one French soldier wrote about seeing his best friend decapitated with one swing of a machete from a pissed-off Amazon. When a second soldier knocked the weapon out of the woman's hand with his rifle butt, she threw him on the ground and tore out his larynx with her teeth.
Her teethThe nasty hand to hand combat that allowed her to disarm, pin down a taller and heavier male that is trained by one of the most powerful nations of the time, and tear out his juggler with her teeth, is something to be feared. And seeing how the Comanche are also known to fight this messy, there is no doubt that 19 year old warrior can do something just as nasty to some normie. Plus, history has many people taking hits that have been known to either kill or severly injure a human but still get up and keep fighting, no stranger for this to be just as applicable to someone who lives in a warrior culture.
"women bad" - guy in a forum that is 50% dedicated to a franchise with a strong female lead fighting rape monsters
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Mar 03, 2021, 10:58:40 PM
"women bad" - guy in a forum that is 50% dedicated to a franchise with a strong female lead fighting rape monsters
women super bad
actually ya know what can you type in 'W.' instead of women that's a swear word this is a boy-safe place fam
People arguing over what's believable and what isn't in the movie about giant, man-hunting, crab faced space gators.
Quote from: Huggs on Mar 04, 2021, 12:57:22 AM
People arguing over what's believable and what isn't in the movie about giant, man-hunting, crab faced space gators.
Honestly pretty much, I mean its also the draw of the story that somehow people perceive as a negative. If 1980s US Special Forces had trouble handling a extraterrestrial hunter, how can pre 18th century Native American warriors handle one? I wanna see that movie. It draws my attention to see this go down.
Ironically, people clamor for a fight in the past like a samurai vs Predator fight in Feudal Japan and somehow ignore the power gap between both beings. Make the samurai a women and suddenly talks of believability is all over the place, huh?
I agree. Plenty of badass believable women in movies we love, we all know them, no need to mention. I actually agree with your demonstration with Cus D'Amato and the rest of your post above. I was just responding to an earlier post that was rather definitive about a comanche teen kicking EVERYONE'S ass on this forum.
Quote from: Huggs on Mar 04, 2021, 12:57:22 AM
People arguing over what's believable and what isn't in the movie about giant, man-hunting, crab faced space gators.
Hey, we don't know if ADI is doing the creature FX yet!
(https://media.tenor.com/images/0ea552ad3b49ff88c4c3b107c835dc80/tenor.gif)
;D
I hope ADI handles all the SFX
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;D
Quote from: Omegamorph on Mar 04, 2021, 02:36:39 PM
I hope ADI handles all the SFX
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(Me sending positive creature energy for ADI to do all the SFX.)
It's going to take a lot of energy though, don't exhaust yourself ;)
Sensing another Brie Larson situation!
Everyone losing their minds over nothing and making idiots of themselves?
Quote from: SiL on Mar 05, 2021, 07:18:39 AM
Everyone losing their minds over nothing and making idiots of themselves?
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