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Posted by bendinglight
 - Apr 28, 2020, 07:20:03 PM
In the chopper, Dillon shows his lighter and stated that Dutch also has one. It has the screaming eagle logo on it from the U.S. Army Airborne. He mentioned the city of Hue, which had the 2nd Brigade of the 101st Airborne operating in that battle. Obviously, that is Dutch and Dillon's previous unit but would be interesting to know what typical assignments ex-U.S. Army personnel accepted in the 80s.
Posted by Local Trouble
 - Apr 25, 2020, 04:00:03 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 07, 2019, 04:57:11 PM
This matter should probably get its own 200-page thread.  We must have consensus.
Posted by HuDaFuK
 - Nov 25, 2019, 06:26:12 PM
Dutch asks Dillon what their backup is should anything go wrong once their over the border. Dillon says they have none.
Posted by oduodu
 - Nov 25, 2019, 04:27:54 PM
What was it that Dutch asked Dillon that Dillon  replied to: 'no such thing old buddy'? something about backup?

or maybe i am just remembering wrong. then Dutch said something to the tune of: "this gets better by the minute"

they were still on the chopper.
Posted by Kimarhi
 - Nov 19, 2019, 08:01:23 PM
Something that you don't typically give to mercs.  But maybe dutchess unit was the blackwater/xe/whateverthehelltheygobythesedays of the eighties.
Posted by HuDaFuK
 - Nov 19, 2019, 09:46:57 AM
Well it's not like they went in without an extraction plan. The mission was always to be extracted by chopper, so of course they'd have the necessary info to contact said choppers and/or whichever base they're operating from.
Posted by Kimarhi
 - Nov 19, 2019, 01:14:21 AM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Nov 17, 2019, 08:39:05 PM
Arnie didn't arrange the chopper though. Phillips did, and he's clearly legit army.

Add in the CIA involvement and it doesn't seem that far fetched for the US Army to be using their kit to ferry mercenaries around.

You have to communicate with each other.  I can't be Army and call a Marine help to come get me.  For Dutch to have the freqs there had to be some sort of communication before hand.  Lots of Army units done even talk to one another even. 
Posted by Local Trouble
 - Nov 18, 2019, 02:17:09 AM
Whose choppers dropped them off?
Posted by HuDaFuK
 - Nov 17, 2019, 08:39:05 PM
Arnie didn't arrange the chopper though. Phillips did, and he's clearly legit army.

Add in the CIA involvement and it doesn't seem that far fetched for the US Army to be using their kit to ferry mercenaries around.
Posted by Kimarhi
 - Nov 13, 2019, 02:38:32 AM
As far as I've read no PMC has authorization to US military equipment, so I would think mercs except for the ending with the chopper coming in flown by the predator who was clearly dressed as US Army aviation personnel. 

But maybe that was just an old military friend bailing out one of his former subordinates. 
Posted by Local Trouble
 - Nov 12, 2019, 11:42:43 PM
I defer to Kimarhi on all matters pertaining to the military, but I'm still not sure what his decision is.
Posted by Kimarhi
 - Nov 09, 2019, 08:06:04 PM
The same sort of thing can happen in US Military. 

I've heard in the ARNG SF units that the SF guys will go work for a PMCs when they are not officially training/deployed with their Groups.

But this is a relatively new scenario, as the resurgence of American PMCs really only blew up with the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. 




There are also examples of American special agents with varying agencies getting pulled for overseas duty.  I know the DEA had some people deployed to Afghanistan, as well as the FBI's HRT (which will often go through the learning portions of the SEALs, SF, training cycles) got attached to various military agencies as the gunhands.  Even though again, this is not hinted  anywhere in the story. 


Posted by 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯
 - Nov 09, 2019, 05:07:30 PM
Maybe they can be both?

For example, after the invasion of Iraq there was a huge demand for mercs in Baghdad and PMC's were luring away a lot of the top/most experienced SAS operators with promises of huge salaries. But as Kimarhi mentioned, it cost a huge amount of money for a country to train top tier operators, so in order to avoid losing more of those highly skilled men, the SAS granted senior NCO's official permission to leave the regular army to go and earn money on the "security" circuit and then having "loaded up", they were allowed to return to regular service after 18 months without loss of rank or pension.
Posted by Local Trouble
 - Nov 08, 2019, 11:39:29 PM
It's been mentioned, yes.  Still not sure what the source for that is.
Posted by oduodu
 - Nov 08, 2019, 07:33:33 PM
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