Title: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 04, 2014, 03:55:23 PM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 04, 2014, 03:55:23 PM
Comic Book Resources have posted up several preview pages from Dark Horses’s upcoming Alien, Predator and Alien vs Predator series (titled “Fire and Stone”):
Aliens vs. Predator interior drawn by Ariel Olivetti
“The “Fire and Stone” line will include five books in total, with the fifth still unrevealed. “Prometheus” will be written by Paul Tobin, with art from Juan Ferreyra. “Prometheus” #1 is set for release on Sept. 10, with subsequent series then launching biweekly in this order: “Aliens,” “Alien vs. Predator” and “Predator.”
Comic Book Resources also have the un-coloured interiors by Patrick Reynolds for Aliens and Chris Mooneyham for Predator, making for 12 pages of Aliens/vs/Predator preview goodness. Thanks to Ultramorph for the news.
Title: Re: More \
Post by: The Runner on May 04, 2014, 08:44:25 PM
Post by: The Runner on May 04, 2014, 08:44:25 PM
lololol 5 foot tall aliens.
Title: Re: More \
Post by: The1PerfectOrganism on May 04, 2014, 09:39:37 PM
Post by: The1PerfectOrganism on May 04, 2014, 09:39:37 PM
Quote from: The Runner on May 04, 2014, 08:44:25 PM
lololol 5 foot tall aliens.
With flat heads...
Disgusting.
Title: Re: More \
Post by: windebieste on May 04, 2014, 09:41:09 PM
Post by: windebieste on May 04, 2014, 09:41:09 PM
Sssooooo...
Based on the strength of this image:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/04052014_01.jpg)
when are we going to see some 'ALIENS ATTACKS!' trading cards get released?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F_s8l-yu7AZLM%2FSfXdHZ-Xh6I%2FAAAAAAAAG5c%2FOfHR1u78u2w%2Fs400%2Fdinocard11.jpg&hash=6a58ef9b700ab2da42cbb8b3e9b505c4d585aff9)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.mcall.com%2F.a%2F6a00d8341c4fe353ef017c32a65b9e970b-320wi&hash=86b5242a2ca43f8849968f6239159b494840cbd9)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.attackfromplanetb.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F03%2FMarsAttacks15.jpg&hash=8c468ac91bd5060a1b241d1d3678adfe57b771b8)
Huh?
Huh?
Huh?
Huh?
Huh..?
-Windebieste.
Based on the strength of this image:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/04052014_01.jpg)
when are we going to see some 'ALIENS ATTACKS!' trading cards get released?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F_s8l-yu7AZLM%2FSfXdHZ-Xh6I%2FAAAAAAAAG5c%2FOfHR1u78u2w%2Fs400%2Fdinocard11.jpg&hash=6a58ef9b700ab2da42cbb8b3e9b505c4d585aff9)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.mcall.com%2F.a%2F6a00d8341c4fe353ef017c32a65b9e970b-320wi&hash=86b5242a2ca43f8849968f6239159b494840cbd9)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.attackfromplanetb.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F03%2FMarsAttacks15.jpg&hash=8c468ac91bd5060a1b241d1d3678adfe57b771b8)
Huh?
Huh?
Huh?
Huh?
Huh..?
-Windebieste.
Title: Re: More
Post by: The1PerfectOrganism on May 04, 2014, 09:43:23 PM
Post by: The1PerfectOrganism on May 04, 2014, 09:43:23 PM
Shame, this series had so much promise.
Looks like I'll only be picking up Prometheus, if that.
Looks like I'll only be picking up Prometheus, if that.
Title: Re: More \
Post by: Cal427eb on May 04, 2014, 09:44:07 PM
Post by: Cal427eb on May 04, 2014, 09:44:07 PM
:-\
Title: Re: More \
Post by: The Dutch Ghost on May 04, 2014, 10:34:09 PM
Post by: The Dutch Ghost on May 04, 2014, 10:34:09 PM
Hello all,
I am a big comic book fan and have read several Aliens comics in the past, but I gave up on them as they tried to be much like the second movie instead of good story telling.
Sadly from that one drawing it seems the new line of Aliens comics are more of that.
Really a shame :(
I am a big comic book fan and have read several Aliens comics in the past, but I gave up on them as they tried to be much like the second movie instead of good story telling.
Sadly from that one drawing it seems the new line of Aliens comics are more of that.
Really a shame :(
Title: Re: More
Post by: Bio Mech Hunter on May 05, 2014, 12:44:08 AM
Post by: Bio Mech Hunter on May 05, 2014, 12:44:08 AM
Good grief! These are some of the smallest Aliens yet! :o :-\
Title: Re: More \
Post by: Jango1201 on May 05, 2014, 01:10:20 AM
Post by: Jango1201 on May 05, 2014, 01:10:20 AM
I have lost all faith in AVP comics. It feels like the mindset is as long as something that looks like an Alien or Predator is shown in a comic, it will pass fan standards. After all, it is only a comic. ::) Dam shame.
Title: Re: More \
Post by: The1PerfectOrganism on May 05, 2014, 01:12:37 AM
Post by: The1PerfectOrganism on May 05, 2014, 01:12:37 AM
Quote from: Jango1201 on May 05, 2014, 01:10:20 AM
I have lost all faith in AVP comics. It feels like the mindset is as long as something that looks like an Alien or Predator is shown in a comic, it will pass fan standards. After all, it is only a comic. ::) Dam shame.
Yeah!
Wtf is with the Aliens.
Someone should tell the writers that even the hardcore devoted fans won't be picking these up until some drastic design changes are made, we don't want stunted shitty Aliens.
Title: Re: More \
Post by: Ultramorph on May 05, 2014, 01:39:38 AM
Post by: Ultramorph on May 05, 2014, 01:39:38 AM
Eh, for me, all that matters is that the aliens look biomechanical, and not like some formless oil slick as we've seen so any times.
Also worth pointing out that we don't know for sure that those are regular Xenos. They could be smaller, Deacon-related aliens like what we saw on that Palumbo cover.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F37.media.tumblr.com%2F8d96f7f21a8bcd18cabdf6aa0d4b032f%2Ftumblr_mzdthppbtm1qg8i80o2_500.jpg&hash=79cc328092ea14ad0763901018c4722e3d8bee7f)
Also worth pointing out that we don't know for sure that those are regular Xenos. They could be smaller, Deacon-related aliens like what we saw on that Palumbo cover.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F37.media.tumblr.com%2F8d96f7f21a8bcd18cabdf6aa0d4b032f%2Ftumblr_mzdthppbtm1qg8i80o2_500.jpg&hash=79cc328092ea14ad0763901018c4722e3d8bee7f)
Title: Re: More \
Post by: RakaiThwei on May 05, 2014, 01:39:54 AM
Post by: RakaiThwei on May 05, 2014, 01:39:54 AM
Quote from: Erik Lehnsherr on May 05, 2014, 01:12:37 AM
Someone should tell the writers that even the hardcore devoted fans won't be picking these up until some drastic design changes are made, we don't want stunted shitty Aliens.
I doubt that they would change the designs and size of the Aliens.. But then again, I could be wrong about that since they have changed the artwork on some of the covers. So I suppose it's not outside the realm of possibility in changing the artwork.
Not sure how far they are in the creative process in all of this though.
Title: Re: More
Post by: The1PerfectOrganism on May 05, 2014, 01:43:46 AM
Post by: The1PerfectOrganism on May 05, 2014, 01:43:46 AM
Look if they lose their main audience they basically have nothing as it's essentially coming in fresh.
Replacing SW.
If the reviews are good I'll get a set but this has turned me off buying them monthly.
Replacing SW.
If the reviews are good I'll get a set but this has turned me off buying them monthly.
Title: Re: More
Post by: RakaiThwei on May 05, 2014, 01:46:49 AM
Post by: RakaiThwei on May 05, 2014, 01:46:49 AM
Quote from: Erik Lehnsherr on May 05, 2014, 01:43:46 AM
Look if they lose their main audience they basically have nothing as it's essentially coming in fresh.
Replacing SW.
I wouldn't say that Alien-Predator is the only thing which is being put out to replace Star Wars. And I doubt that Alien, Predator and Prometheus would be on-going anyways where as Star Wars was on-going (I think even DeConnick said it wasn't going to be on-going).
Dark Horse going to be focusing more on creator owned projects and developing more superhero titles, this is likely to cover the gap which Star Wars is leaving behind.
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Post by: happypred on May 05, 2014, 02:25:44 AM
Post by: happypred on May 05, 2014, 02:25:44 AM
Juvenile aliens perhaps? Aliens bred from a smaller host species? I mean...let's not assume the worst right off the bat
Title: Re: More \
Post by: OpenMaw on May 05, 2014, 02:37:23 AM
Post by: OpenMaw on May 05, 2014, 02:37:23 AM
Yeah, it's not like this franchise has a really bad history at this point! ;)
Title: Re: More \
Post by: happypred on May 05, 2014, 02:42:10 AM
Post by: happypred on May 05, 2014, 02:42:10 AM
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 05, 2014, 02:37:23 AM
Yeah, it's not like this franchise has a really bad history at this point! ;)
True but I think it's always wise to judge after the release of the final product. Right now, it's premature.
Even if the aliens do end up being drawn really badly in the new series, they might be total wrecking machines in the story. Of course, it would be nice if we could have good art and good story.
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Post by: SM on May 05, 2014, 02:44:24 AM
Post by: SM on May 05, 2014, 02:44:24 AM
I think "chequered" is probably fairer than "really bad".
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Post by: bobby brown on May 05, 2014, 07:45:03 AM
Post by: bobby brown on May 05, 2014, 07:45:03 AM
I think the artwork is fantastic!
Not crazy about that mutant alien man though :-X
But I am starving for some new elements in this franchise.
Not crazy about that mutant alien man though :-X
But I am starving for some new elements in this franchise.
Title: Re: More \
Post by: happypred on May 05, 2014, 11:24:16 AM
Post by: happypred on May 05, 2014, 11:24:16 AM
Quote from: bobby brown on May 05, 2014, 07:45:03 AM
I think the artwork is fantastic!
It's fantastic compared to Three World War. Whether it's better than Civilised Beasts is arguable
Title: Re: More \
Post by: The Dutch Ghost on May 05, 2014, 03:40:59 PM
Post by: The Dutch Ghost on May 05, 2014, 03:40:59 PM
Hi guys,
I am not trying to deviate the topic but I would love to see Dark Horse make a try at Star Trek comics as the IDW run is quite forgettable.
I am mostly annoyed that they focus on comics based on the new movies, barely doing any stuff in the original universe/timeline that established the franchise in the first place.
If IDW doesn't want to do more work with the original IPs then perhaps another publisher should.
Back to the main topic, it is not actually the art or the size of the xenomorphs that disappoints me but rather the indication that Dark Horse will just publish mini series along the traditional formula; focus on action and gore.
There is nothing wrong with doing that sometimes but I would really like to see the writers experiment more with storyline concepts and not use only Aliens as a basis for stories.
I think someone on this forum once wrote that the planned Alien 3 would have been sort of Film Noir (with a bit of horror), continuing the trend of putting the Alien movies in different kind of genres (Alien - horror/thriller, Aliens - action/thriller)
I would love to see stuff like that. (No, I am not suggesting an eventual romance genre story yeez)
I am not trying to deviate the topic but I would love to see Dark Horse make a try at Star Trek comics as the IDW run is quite forgettable.
I am mostly annoyed that they focus on comics based on the new movies, barely doing any stuff in the original universe/timeline that established the franchise in the first place.
If IDW doesn't want to do more work with the original IPs then perhaps another publisher should.
Back to the main topic, it is not actually the art or the size of the xenomorphs that disappoints me but rather the indication that Dark Horse will just publish mini series along the traditional formula; focus on action and gore.
There is nothing wrong with doing that sometimes but I would really like to see the writers experiment more with storyline concepts and not use only Aliens as a basis for stories.
I think someone on this forum once wrote that the planned Alien 3 would have been sort of Film Noir (with a bit of horror), continuing the trend of putting the Alien movies in different kind of genres (Alien - horror/thriller, Aliens - action/thriller)
I would love to see stuff like that. (No, I am not suggesting an eventual romance genre story yeez)
Title: Re: More \
Post by: happypred on May 06, 2014, 12:12:00 AM
Post by: happypred on May 06, 2014, 12:12:00 AM
Quote from: The Dutch Ghost on May 05, 2014, 03:40:59 PMBack to the main topic, it is not actually the art or the size of the xenomorphs that disappoints me but rather the indication that Dark Horse will just publish mini series along the traditional formula; focus on action and gore.The new AvP series has been stated to be the most action-oriented. From the previews alone, I can't tell if the entire AvP series will be a gore-fest.
I don't think it will, but there will definitely be quite a bit of action as the foundation of AvP is aliens and predators going at it for our entertainment. I mean, the Prometheus, Aliens, Predator, and AvP series will all have some gore in them. For all we know, the previews are simply showing us more action-oriented pages. Again, I think we should reserve judgment until the final product is released.
If action and gore isn't your thing, you'll probably like the AvP series the least. The Prometheus series will likely have the least gore
Title: Re: More \
Post by: Xenoscream on May 06, 2014, 08:25:37 PM
Post by: Xenoscream on May 06, 2014, 08:25:37 PM
In the last panel of the last preview page the alien is clearly massive compared to the guy, it's much bigger than the door he is behind too.
Most likely it just changes by scene, due to art style.
Most likely it just changes by scene, due to art style.
Title: Re: More \
Post by: Ultramorph on May 06, 2014, 09:42:30 PM
Post by: Ultramorph on May 06, 2014, 09:42:30 PM
Quote from: Xenoscream on May 06, 2014, 08:25:37 PM
In the last panel of the last preview page the alien is clearly massive compared to the guy, it's much bigger than the door he is behind too.
Most likely it just changes by scene, due to art style.
Agreed. If you look at some of the "Aliens" panels, you can also see that the xenos there would tower over the humans if they stood up straight.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOTpLKAO.jpg&hash=2dcf81c9e54f2aa05ada73f1b29ff1cc88ef1e7f)
I completely understand that people have some (justifiable) reservations about this whole reboot/relaunch, but I'm a bit more willing to cut this stuff some slack. DH could easily clean up those few panels where the xenos looks a bit short.
Title: Re: More \
Post by: happypred on May 07, 2014, 01:55:24 AM
Post by: happypred on May 07, 2014, 01:55:24 AM
Quote from: Xenoscream on May 06, 2014, 08:25:37 PM
In the last panel of the last preview page the alien is clearly massive compared to the guy, it's much bigger than the door he is behind too.
Most likely it just changes by scene, due to art style.
Quote from: Ultramorph on May 06, 2014, 09:42:30 PM
Agreed. If you look at some of the "Aliens" panels, you can also see that the xenos there would tower over the humans if they stood up straight. I completely understand that people have some (justifiable) reservations about this whole reboot/relaunch, but I'm a bit more willing to cut this stuff some slack. DH could easily clean up those few panels where the xenos looks a bit short.
Good catch...it seems like the pygmy xenos are an artistic f*ck up
In the comic Predator Race War, there's a panel with what looks like a 12ft predator
Title: Re: More \
Post by: newbeing on May 07, 2014, 02:08:32 AM
Post by: newbeing on May 07, 2014, 02:08:32 AM
Quote from: Ultramorph on May 06, 2014, 09:42:30 PMQuote from: Xenoscream on May 06, 2014, 08:25:37 PM
In the last panel of the last preview page the alien is clearly massive compared to the guy, it's much bigger than the door he is behind too.
Most likely it just changes by scene, due to art style.
Agreed. If you look at some of the "Aliens" panels, you can also see that the xenos there would tower over the humans if they stood up straight.
http://i.imgur.com/OTpLKAO.jpg
I completely understand that people have some (justifiable) reservations about this whole reboot/relaunch, but I'm a bit more willing to cut this stuff some slack. DH could easily clean up those few panels where the xenos looks a bit short.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOTpLKAO.jpg&hash=2dcf81c9e54f2aa05ada73f1b29ff1cc88ef1e7f)
Hmmm :P
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs.pro-gmedia.com%2Fvideogamer%2Fmedia%2Fimages%2Fxbox360%2Faliens_colonial_marines%2Fscreens%2Faliens_colonial_marines_15_605x.jpg&hash=239c0eb4fe9b15246c02119d09a0f0edc6866233)
Title: Re: More \
Post by: SM on May 07, 2014, 02:51:16 AM
Post by: SM on May 07, 2014, 02:51:16 AM
Take out the perspective and have the Aliens standing up and they'd probably be about right.
How tall were they in the game? They seemed decent, but I don't think they were 8' tall.
How tall were they in the game? They seemed decent, but I don't think they were 8' tall.
Title: Re: More \
Post by: RakaiThwei on May 07, 2014, 02:56:23 AM
Post by: RakaiThwei on May 07, 2014, 02:56:23 AM
One of the artists pulling off a Greg Land? Huh... :-\
Title: Re: More \
Post by: Ultramorph on May 07, 2014, 03:16:52 AM
Post by: Ultramorph on May 07, 2014, 03:16:52 AM
Wow, also a nice, if depressing, catch.
Title: Re: More \
Post by: RakaiThwei on May 07, 2014, 03:22:41 AM
Post by: RakaiThwei on May 07, 2014, 03:22:41 AM
I can definitely see some invoking of Greg Land here.. I can't remember who did that black and white panel, but it's clear that they likely had traced or filtered the source image with some alterations, and just added in a few more details. You know that's something which comic fans had called Greg Land out on, because it's straight up tracing.
I know that photo references are used a lot in comics but there is an acceptable boundary. The Aliens in that panel look like they were treated in photoshop with some filtering. The lines even match up for the rib cage areas. Aside up a few additions and tweaks, this might even be straight up filtering and tracing.
I know that photo references are used a lot in comics but there is an acceptable boundary. The Aliens in that panel look like they were treated in photoshop with some filtering. The lines even match up for the rib cage areas. Aside up a few additions and tweaks, this might even be straight up filtering and tracing.
Title: Re: More \
Post by: Ultramorph on May 07, 2014, 03:39:14 AM
Post by: Ultramorph on May 07, 2014, 03:39:14 AM
That's really strange to see considering that I've liked the Alien stuff I've seen from Patric Reynolds. Tracing is just a cop-out. Hopefully this is not indicative of the quality we can expect from these comics.
Title: Re: More \
Post by: RakaiThwei on May 07, 2014, 03:42:52 AM
Post by: RakaiThwei on May 07, 2014, 03:42:52 AM
I wonder if there are more photo examples which we can compare with the art.
Title: Re: More \
Post by: happypred on May 07, 2014, 05:16:47 AM
Post by: happypred on May 07, 2014, 05:16:47 AM
Is the finished product going to be black-and-white?
Title: Re: More \
Post by: RakaiThwei on May 07, 2014, 05:39:52 AM
Post by: RakaiThwei on May 07, 2014, 05:39:52 AM
Quote from: happypred on May 07, 2014, 05:16:47 AM
Is the finished product going to be black-and-white?
Not likely, but even if the panels are differently colored.. A trace is still a trace.
Title: Re: More \
Post by: SM on May 07, 2014, 05:47:41 AM
Post by: SM on May 07, 2014, 05:47:41 AM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lnb8hb7IAi1qzdlumo1_500.gif&hash=097d36d679fbaad43e06208baddd9feda76502dc)
Title: Re: More \
Post by: RakaiThwei on May 07, 2014, 05:48:41 AM
Post by: RakaiThwei on May 07, 2014, 05:48:41 AM
That got a chuckle out of me! :laugh:
Title: Re: More \
Post by: locusta on May 07, 2014, 08:57:45 AM
Post by: locusta on May 07, 2014, 08:57:45 AM
Using f**king A:CM screen as trace = FAIL!!
Wow, nice and cheap way to make comic books these days.
Wow, nice and cheap way to make comic books these days.
Title: Re: More \
Post by: happypred on May 07, 2014, 09:40:49 AM
Post by: happypred on May 07, 2014, 09:40:49 AM
Quote from: locusta on May 07, 2014, 08:57:45 AM
Using f**king A:CM screen as trace = FAIL!!
Wow, nice and cheap way to make comic books these days.
One panel...maybe the guy liked that piece of A:CM art and wanted to incorporate it into the comic? I'm very certain that 99.99% of the comic won't be based on A:CM art
Title: Re: More \
Post by: SM on May 07, 2014, 10:03:57 AM
Post by: SM on May 07, 2014, 10:03:57 AM
A lot of comic book artists trace.
Title: Re: More \
Post by: The Dutch Ghost on May 07, 2014, 11:33:40 AM
Post by: The Dutch Ghost on May 07, 2014, 11:33:40 AM
Awesome catch newbeing, this is obviously beyond artistic inspiration but it damn sure made me chuckle.
Title: Re: More \
Post by: Ultramorph on May 07, 2014, 02:49:28 PM
Post by: Ultramorph on May 07, 2014, 02:49:28 PM
We should all just take comfort that these comics aren't being illustrated by Rob Liefeld. :laugh:
Title: Re: More \
Post by: Darwinsgirl on May 07, 2014, 03:52:39 PM
Post by: Darwinsgirl on May 07, 2014, 03:52:39 PM
All the female characters would look like Glory.... :D
Title: Re: More \
Post by: StrangeShape on May 11, 2014, 04:12:13 PM
Post by: StrangeShape on May 11, 2014, 04:12:13 PM
I really like what Im seeing so far, and Im as excited for this as I ever was since it was announced. I also always liked the Royal Jely angle in the old series, I see the mutation thing will come back with the black goo taking royal jellys place. The mutation idea comes back even to the pre comics times, with the Arcade game
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi13.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa277%2Flovegunner%2FAVP%2Fjellyarcade_zps56e19ddf.png&hash=21b5beca192b0972e624d2b34c03b1a7dbacd574)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi13.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa277%2Flovegunner%2FAVP%2Fjellyarcade_zps56e19ddf.png&hash=21b5beca192b0972e624d2b34c03b1a7dbacd574)
Title: Re: More \
Post by: Ultramorph on May 11, 2014, 06:14:57 PM
Post by: Ultramorph on May 11, 2014, 06:14:57 PM
It definitely seems like the black goo will have some royal jelly-like properties in "Fire and Stone." I'm wondering what the mutant's overall goal will be. Exterminating inferior humanity ala Skynet? Some kind of communion with the Engineers? Very much looking forward to this.
Title: Re: More \
Post by: happypred on May 12, 2014, 01:55:34 AM
Post by: happypred on May 12, 2014, 01:55:34 AM
I'm curious how they'll explain the goo working on an android...do we know much about the inner workings of androids in the Aliens universe? Are their organic bits purely for appearance? Does the black goo work on a more "metaphysical" level (i.e. it works on any being with self-awareness)?
Is Engineer tech going to be at least somewhat rooted in known science or is it going to be completely out there in that it might as well be magic to us?
Is Engineer tech going to be at least somewhat rooted in known science or is it going to be completely out there in that it might as well be magic to us?
Title: Re: More \
Post by: Ultramorph on May 12, 2014, 03:22:05 AM
Post by: Ultramorph on May 12, 2014, 03:22:05 AM
Quote from: happypred on May 12, 2014, 01:55:34 AM
I'm curious how they'll explain the goo working on an android...do we know much about the inner workings of androids in the Aliens universe? Are their organic bits purely for appearance? Does the black goo work on a more "metaphysical" level (i.e. it works on any being with self-awareness)?
Is Engineer tech going to be at least somewhat rooted in known science or is it going to be completely out there in that it might as well be magic to us?
I think they'll establish that Elden is some kind of older model synthetic with human tissue; something like a Replicant. On the other hand, you may be right about sentience being the key to whether the goo effects an organism. Cavalorn speculated back when Prometheus was out that an individual's mental state and motivations may be key to how the goo effects them, so maybe DH will go in that direction.
As far as Engineer tech and real science, I'd say to expect a small amount of real world science, but for it to mostly be "magic."
Title: Re: More \
Post by: happypred on May 13, 2014, 02:34:58 AM
Post by: happypred on May 13, 2014, 02:34:58 AM
This is a long wait...
Title: Re: More \
Post by: Ultramorph on May 13, 2014, 03:21:05 AM
Post by: Ultramorph on May 13, 2014, 03:21:05 AM
Quote from: happypred on May 13, 2014, 02:34:58 AM
This is a long wait...
Most definitely. Hopefully DH blows our minds with their answers to the AliensversusPredator.net interview. We also have the second Titan book in late July to tide us over, I suppose. :-\
Title: Re: More \
Post by: happypred on May 14, 2014, 02:30:11 AM
Post by: happypred on May 14, 2014, 02:30:11 AM
Regardless of how they fare against each other, I'm hoping the aliens and predators really dominate the humans, like tear them to shreds. I hope they make the xenomorphs really fast like how they are in the AvP FPS games. The predators should agile, stealthy hunters, not lumbering bruisers who football tackle xenomorphs and swing them by their tails...none of that silly sh*t please
Xenomorphs should have a raptor-like predatory cunning. Predators should be tactical and skilled
Xenomorphs should have a raptor-like predatory cunning. Predators should be tactical and skilled
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Post by: shadowedge on Jun 01, 2014, 04:30:15 PM
Post by: shadowedge on Jun 01, 2014, 04:30:15 PM
I am curious about this guy's laser gun. Maybe it is an Engineer weapon?
Title: Re: More \
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 02, 2014, 09:02:39 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 02, 2014, 09:02:39 AM
I'm pretty sure that is the case. Looks very much like it.
Title: Re: More \
Post by: happypred on Jun 03, 2014, 11:39:09 AM
Post by: happypred on Jun 03, 2014, 11:39:09 AM
Quote from: shadowedge on Jun 01, 2014, 04:30:15 PMI don't see what else it could be. It has Engineer written all over it
I am curious about this guy's laser gun. Maybe it is an Engineer weapon?
Title: Re: More \
Post by: episodenone on Jun 17, 2014, 08:48:10 PM
Post by: episodenone on Jun 17, 2014, 08:48:10 PM
Huh??
David had the goo on his finger tip and it remained inert.
The goo should not in any way work with androids. That's plainly silly.
David had the goo on his finger tip and it remained inert.
The goo should not in any way work with androids. That's plainly silly.
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Post by: SM on Jun 17, 2014, 11:50:14 PM
Post by: SM on Jun 17, 2014, 11:50:14 PM
It would seem that the goo needs to be ingested to work.
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Post by: RakaiThwei on Jun 18, 2014, 12:17:19 AM
Post by: RakaiThwei on Jun 18, 2014, 12:17:19 AM
Quote from: SM on Jun 17, 2014, 11:50:14 PM
It would seem that the goo needs to be ingested to work.
Or inhaled.. as was the case with Fifield.
But even then.. it seems really farfetched or impossible to have it work on Androids, which are inorganic.
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Post by: SM on Jun 18, 2014, 12:36:52 AM
Post by: SM on Jun 18, 2014, 12:36:52 AM
Inhale/ ingest - same thing really. The goo has to somehow get inside the organism if Charlie, Fifield and the Engineer at the start are the examples.
Title: Re: More \
Post by: Ultramorph on Jun 18, 2014, 01:01:36 AM
Post by: Ultramorph on Jun 18, 2014, 01:01:36 AM
It's also good to remember that we really have no idea how the black goo works, or what exactly Francis does to Elden, or even what Elden is (I've speculated Replicant-like), so we'll have to wait and see. Maybe Chris P will enlighten is tomorrow!
Title: Re: More \
Post by: happypred on Jun 18, 2014, 01:56:16 AM
Post by: happypred on Jun 18, 2014, 01:56:16 AM
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Jun 18, 2014, 12:17:19 AM
But even then.. it seems really farfetched or impossible to have it work on Androids, which are inorganic.
We don't know that Elden is a standard android. He could be something else
Title: Re: More \
Post by: RakaiThwei on Jun 18, 2014, 03:08:11 AM
Post by: RakaiThwei on Jun 18, 2014, 03:08:11 AM
Quote from: happypred on Jun 18, 2014, 01:56:16 AM
We don't know that Elden is a standard android. He could be something else
Yeah, yeah.. the Replicant idea which Ultramorph has hypothesized. I'm just not sure how to feel about that. Just seems like if that is the case, then they took the Blu-ray tidbit joke a little seriously.
Title: Re: More \
Post by: Ultramorph on Jun 18, 2014, 03:32:39 AM
Post by: Ultramorph on Jun 18, 2014, 03:32:39 AM
It's also possible that they take the Frankenstein angle to an extreme and have Francis do some really messed up experiments on Elden, grafting tissue onto him, exposing him in different ways to the black goo, etc. My guess is that Francis will be a morally gray-leaning-toward-evil character. We'll probably wind up having some level of sympathy for Elden.
Doesn't shed any light on the synthetic issue, but here's Sebela on the plot from back in March:
http://www.newsarama.com/20676-aliens-vs-predator-back-in-the-hunt-at-dark-horse.html (http://www.newsarama.com/20676-aliens-vs-predator-back-in-the-hunt-at-dark-horse.html)
Doesn't shed any light on the synthetic issue, but here's Sebela on the plot from back in March:
Quote"Francis is a scientist, a deep thinker, a keeper of secrets. He's also drawn to the unknown, he's trying to fix something, to find a solution he's been pursuing for years," tells the writer. "Elden is an artificial being, just another cog in the machine, until he gets ripped out of the comfort of being told what to do and has to start figuring things out for himself. They're sort of locked in a battle of their own, the bright hot flame at the center of a war that includes xenomorphs and predators.
http://www.newsarama.com/20676-aliens-vs-predator-back-in-the-hunt-at-dark-horse.html (http://www.newsarama.com/20676-aliens-vs-predator-back-in-the-hunt-at-dark-horse.html)
Title: Re: More \
Post by: 85 on Jul 07, 2014, 07:52:57 PM
Post by: 85 on Jul 07, 2014, 07:52:57 PM
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Are these Berserkers?
Are these Berserkers?
Title: Re: More \
Post by: Master on Jul 07, 2014, 09:59:09 PM
Post by: Master on Jul 07, 2014, 09:59:09 PM
They do look like super predators
Title: Re: More \
Post by: SM on Jul 07, 2014, 11:11:08 PM
Post by: SM on Jul 07, 2014, 11:11:08 PM
They sure are chatty.
Title: Re: More \
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 08, 2014, 12:27:25 AM
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 08, 2014, 12:27:25 AM
Quote from: 85 on Jul 07, 2014, 07:52:57 PM
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Are these Berserkers?
People have asked Chris Sebela (who is writing the AvP comic), but he always gives vague answers, as is to be expected this far out from release.
I for one do think they're Super Predators, but we won't know for sure until October.
Title: Re: More \
Post by: RakaiThwei on Jul 08, 2014, 04:39:09 AM
Post by: RakaiThwei on Jul 08, 2014, 04:39:09 AM
Quote from: Ultramorph on Jul 08, 2014, 12:27:25 AM
People have asked Chris Sebela (who is writing the AvP comic), but he always gives vague answers, as is to be expected this far out from release.
I for one do think they're Super Predators, but we won't know for sure until October.
I would say that they are, despite Christopher Sebela explictly saying that they are not. The reason that I say that they are is because of their appearance, weaponry and the big giveaway is that their feet are configured different from normal Predators.
Of course this could just be Ariel Olivetti taking artistic license and not really seeing the distinguishing qualities between the two species.
Title: Re: More \
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 08, 2014, 07:31:20 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 08, 2014, 07:31:20 AM
I absolutely, completely, well and truly, hate people using that name.
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Post by: SM on Jul 08, 2014, 08:46:42 AM
Post by: SM on Jul 08, 2014, 08:46:42 AM
Ariel?
Title: Re: More \
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 08, 2014, 10:58:42 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 08, 2014, 10:58:42 AM
Super Predators. These things aren't Super Predators and the Super Predators never came out on screen. Grrrr.
Title: Re: More \
Post by: SM on Jul 08, 2014, 11:22:21 AM
Post by: SM on Jul 08, 2014, 11:22:21 AM
Look! Up in the sk-*gaak*
Title: Re: More \
Post by: Master on Jul 08, 2014, 11:32:51 AM
Post by: Master on Jul 08, 2014, 11:32:51 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 08, 2014, 10:58:42 AM
Super Predators. These things aren't Super Predators and the Super Predators never came out on screen. Grrrr.
I have thesame with Breserkers, Black Predators and Bad Bloods. Understood, nothing super about them, still it makes discussion easier and everyone knows what`s up.
Title: Re: More \
Post by: happypred on Jul 08, 2014, 01:28:42 PM
Post by: happypred on Jul 08, 2014, 01:28:42 PM
Wolf is more super than the Super Predators
Title: Re: More \
Post by: Master on Jul 08, 2014, 03:39:46 PM
Post by: Master on Jul 08, 2014, 03:39:46 PM
Wolf is as incompetent, stupid, lazy basterd and excuse for Predator (or even more) as those Super Predators.
Title: Re: More \
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 08, 2014, 04:01:27 PM
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 08, 2014, 04:01:27 PM
On a different note, Chris Roberson shared a small sample of some Aliens pencils last night.
(https://o.twimg.com/2/proxy.jpg?t=HBheaHR0cDovLzM4Lm1lZGlhLnR1bWJsci5jb20vMDgwMDU2MGJiM2ExMDk2NWFiZGJmYzE1MmY0YjczNDEvdHVtYmxyX244ZGFybWM0RFMxdHcxcWt6bzFfNTAwLmpwZxToBxToBwAWABIA&s=eww8g-WGgOcpghMWbQVzzyPlde4kh2ny_UwcQ8Xyh3s)
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Title: Re: More \
Post by: RakaiThwei on Jul 08, 2014, 04:18:07 PM
Post by: RakaiThwei on Jul 08, 2014, 04:18:07 PM
I don't think I'll be picking these up. Just not feeling excited for them. :-\
Title: Re: More \
Post by: happypred on Jul 09, 2014, 02:38:24 AM
Post by: happypred on Jul 09, 2014, 02:38:24 AM
Quote from: Master on Jul 08, 2014, 03:39:46 PM
Wolf is as incompetent, stupid, lazy basterd and excuse for Predator (or even more) as those Super Predators.
How is Wolf more incompetent than the Super Predators? Tracker dies in moronic fashion and Falconer can't even kill a guy with a sword without dying himself
Title: Re: More \
Post by: RakaiThwei on Jul 09, 2014, 03:49:39 AM
Post by: RakaiThwei on Jul 09, 2014, 03:49:39 AM
And so a powder keg explodes.. :-\
Title: Re: More \
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 09, 2014, 04:04:23 AM
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 09, 2014, 04:04:23 AM
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Jul 09, 2014, 03:49:39 AM
And so a powder keg explodes.. :-\
It was bound to happen. :-\
Title: Re: More \
Post by: happypred on Jul 09, 2014, 05:59:37 AM
Post by: happypred on Jul 09, 2014, 05:59:37 AM
Quote from: Ultramorph on Jul 09, 2014, 04:04:23 AMQuote from: RakaiThwei on Jul 09, 2014, 03:49:39 AM
And so a powder keg explodes.. :-\
It was bound to happen. :-\
What? Are you referring to this post?
Quote from: happypred on Jul 09, 2014, 02:38:24 AMQuote from: Master on Jul 08, 2014, 03:39:46 PM
Wolf is as incompetent, stupid, lazy basterd and excuse for Predator (or even more) as those Super Predators.
How is Wolf more incompetent than the Super Predators? Tracker dies in moronic fashion and Falconer can't even kill a guy with a sword without dying himself
I respect the guy's right to have that opinion. I just don't agree
Title: Re: More \
Post by: Master on Jul 09, 2014, 08:02:35 AM
Post by: Master on Jul 09, 2014, 08:02:35 AM
Holding two aliens by neck, disarming and unmasking in front of predalien, over all failure in his job. That kind of stuff.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: RakaiThwei on Jul 10, 2014, 04:55:05 PM
Post by: RakaiThwei on Jul 10, 2014, 04:55:05 PM
Spoke to my comic book clerk today about the reboot comics since we were discussing it about it from the Previews catalog book. He's said that they're going to become their new flagship comic since Dark Horse lost the publishing rights to Marvel. While Alien and Predator are popular titles, I don't think they're popular enough to become flagship as they were in the 90s.
Any word regarding on whether or not they're going to become flagship titles like Star Wars was with Dark Horse, or is my comic book clerk just mentioning that without being as well informed as we die hard fans are?
Any word regarding on whether or not they're going to become flagship titles like Star Wars was with Dark Horse, or is my comic book clerk just mentioning that without being as well informed as we die hard fans are?
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 10, 2014, 08:26:23 PM
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 10, 2014, 08:26:23 PM
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Jul 10, 2014, 04:55:05 PM
Any word regarding on whether or not they're going to become flagship titles like Star Wars was with Dark Horse, or is my comic book clerk just mentioning that without being as well informed as we die hard fans are?
I would think it's the latter. A/v/P is getting a big boost, and will likely get more limited series if "Fire and Stone" is commercially successful, but from everything I've seen, it looks like Dark Horse is aiming to make their super hero, "Project Black Sky" stuff their big focus moving forward.
That being said, I would love it if they went back to the model of the late eighties and early nineties, with pretty much continuous runs of limited A/v/P stories. But that will only happen if enough people pick up "Fire and Stone" in good numbers.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: 85 on Jul 10, 2014, 08:52:02 PM
Post by: 85 on Jul 10, 2014, 08:52:02 PM
I would hope that it does become the new flagship series, But I would like to see more of an ongoing title more than the 4 issue mini series. A Predator ongoing focusing on different characters in the universe (Royce and Isabel, Harrigan, Dutch) and see where they went after the movies ended. I doubt we are ever going to get continuations for those characters.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: RakaiThwei on Jul 10, 2014, 09:36:16 PM
Post by: RakaiThwei on Jul 10, 2014, 09:36:16 PM
Quote from: 85 on Jul 10, 2014, 08:52:02 PM
I would hope that it does become the new flagship series, But I would like to see more of an ongoing title more than the 4 issue mini series.
Personally, I wouldn't want an on-going series, especially if they're doing what the New 52 did. I think they told all the stories they wanted to tell back in the 90s, and then there was a major burn out. If anything I think this is just going to be a mini-series and then there will be some more mini-series every now and then.
Quote from: 85 on Jul 10, 2014, 08:52:02 PM
A Predator ongoing focusing on different characters in the universe (Royce and Isabel, Harrigan, Dutch) and see where they went after the movies ended.
If you want to find out what happened to Isabelle and Royce, you might want to check out the official PREDATORS sequel comic. Of course, I wouldn't recommend it. As for Harrigan and Dutch.. well, that's not likely going to happen.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 10, 2014, 10:00:59 PM
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 10, 2014, 10:00:59 PM
Some SDCC news:
http://comiccon2014.sched.org/event/13690a098a50d45f065daa505fc3cfea#.U78MzPldUT0 (http://comiccon2014.sched.org/event/13690a098a50d45f065daa505fc3cfea#.U78MzPldUT0)
Hopefully this time we get some info to make this worth livestreaming.
http://comiccon2014.sched.org/event/13690a098a50d45f065daa505fc3cfea#.U78MzPldUT0 (http://comiccon2014.sched.org/event/13690a098a50d45f065daa505fc3cfea#.U78MzPldUT0)
QuoteNearly 30 years ago, Dark Horse rewrote the rules of licensed comics with the release of Aliens, continuing the story lines of Ridley Scott's iconic film franchise. Predator and the iconic crossover Aliens Vs. Predator followed, with each series practically outselling the last. Now, the publisher partners with Scott again, to bring sci-fi epic Prometheus to comics. With just under two months away from the launch of the ambitious and highly anticipated crossover, Fire and Stone, Dark Horse editor-in-chief Scott Allie, writers Chris Roberson (Aliens), Joshua Williamson (Predator), Christopher Sebela (Aliens Vs. Predator), and the Prometheus team of Paul Tobin and Juan Ferrerya, reveal just what's in store for this grand universe!
Thursday July 24, 2014 6:00pm - 7:00pm
Room 9
Hopefully this time we get some info to make this worth livestreaming.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: RakaiThwei on Jul 10, 2014, 10:09:03 PM
Post by: RakaiThwei on Jul 10, 2014, 10:09:03 PM
Quote from: Ultramorph on Jul 10, 2014, 10:00:59 PM
Hopefully this time we get some info to make this worth livestreaming.
All this hype. All these vague answers.. Think we'll get some major answers or will they just keep baiting and reeling us? Cause honestly, I'm tired of that. I was disappointed with the answers we got on the Fan Q&A.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 10, 2014, 10:11:48 PM
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 10, 2014, 10:11:48 PM
Agreed. Though since this is closer to release I imagine they'll be at least a bit more forthcoming about some general information. I'm mostly hoping for some new exclusive artwork or something along those lines.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: RakaiThwei on Jul 10, 2014, 10:15:47 PM
Post by: RakaiThwei on Jul 10, 2014, 10:15:47 PM
Quote from: Ultramorph on Jul 10, 2014, 10:11:48 PM
Agreed. Though since this is closer to release I imagine they'll be at least a bit more forthcoming about some general information. I'm mostly hoping for some new exclusive artwork or something along those lines.
I have a feeling they are just going to tell us the same thing we heard from Emerald City Comic-con except reveal a few things such as whether or not this somehow ties into Alien Isolation, which films affected their decisions to put what in this particular comic, how involved Ridley Scott was and how this may tie into the Prometheus sequel. It'll be the same old same old, just with some extra bits that will just bait, hook and reel readers in. I doubt anything major maybe revealed, and if anything is.. Well.. Surprise, surprise.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 10, 2014, 10:31:31 PM
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 10, 2014, 10:31:31 PM
Oh yeah, I fully expect that 40 minutes of the 60-minute-long panel will be the writers telling us how awesome the writers room process was, just like at ECCC and in most of the interviews we've gotten.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 11, 2014, 08:30:58 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 11, 2014, 08:30:58 AM
Are people just unfamiliar with the reveal process? Since when has anyone ever just gone "here, this is whats-what" up front??? Exactly. They build, they tease, they slowly release. I imagine within the next 2 months we'll be getting more structured previews and more info.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 11, 2014, 03:30:36 PM
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 11, 2014, 03:30:36 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 11, 2014, 08:30:58 AM
Are people just unfamiliar with the reveal process? Since when has anyone ever just gone "here, this is whats-what" up front??? Exactly. They build, they tease, they slowly release. I imagine within the next 2 months we'll be getting more structured previews and more info.
I'm cool with the idea behind teasing and revealing a little bit, and they've certainly done a good job holding at least my interest. I think what makes some people frustrated is how long the marketing run for "Fire and Stone" has been going on, at least for people like us on sites like this. We had the news of upcoming Prometheus and Predator comics hit last July, and the big io9 reveal was back in October.
Comics, like movies, seem to be trending toward an obnoxious one to two year long cycle of production, hype, more hype, and then a release by which time we're almost sick of the product and quickly move on. The new Godzilla film is a good example of this.
The fact that it has gone on, though, isn't really Dark Horse's fault; the comics were supposed to start coming out in June, until Fox stepped in, nuked it all, and made them start from scratch.
Either way, I'm looking forward to what we get at SDCC.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: 85 on Jul 11, 2014, 09:18:49 PM
Post by: 85 on Jul 11, 2014, 09:18:49 PM
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Jul 10, 2014, 09:36:16 PMQuote from: 85 on Jul 10, 2014, 08:52:02 PM
I would hope that it does become the new flagship series, But I would like to see more of an ongoing title more than the 4 issue mini series.
Personally, I wouldn't want an on-going series, especially if they're doing what the New 52 did. I think they told all the stories they wanted to tell back in the 90s, and then there was a major burn out. If anything I think this is just going to be a mini-series and then there will be some more mini-series every now and then.Quote from: 85 on Jul 10, 2014, 08:52:02 PM
A Predator ongoing focusing on different characters in the universe (Royce and Isabel, Harrigan, Dutch) and see where they went after the movies ended.
If you want to find out what happened to Isabelle and Royce, you might want to check out the official PREDATORS sequel comic. Of course, I wouldn't recommend it. As for Harrigan and Dutch.. well, that's not likely going to happen.
That sequel comic was one of the most confusing things I ever read, A four armed predator out of nowhere...
But I was thinking more of Royce and Isabelle building a small army of the dropped off prey and starting a revolt against the predators.
Quote from: Ultramorph on Jul 11, 2014, 03:30:36 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 11, 2014, 08:30:58 AM
Are people just unfamiliar with the reveal process? Since when has anyone ever just gone "here, this is whats-what" up front??? Exactly. They build, they tease, they slowly release. I imagine within the next 2 months we'll be getting more structured previews and more info.
I'm cool with the idea behind teasing and revealing a little bit, and they've certainly done a good job holding at least my interest. I think what makes some people frustrated is how long the marketing run for "Fire and Stone" has been going on, at least for people like us on sites like this. We had the news of upcoming Prometheus and Predator comics hit last July, and the big io9 reveal was back in October.
Comics, like movies, seem to be trending toward an obnoxious one to two year long cycle of production, hype, more hype, and then a release by which time we're almost sick of the product and quickly move on. The new Godzilla film is a good example of this.
The fact that it has gone on, though, isn't really Dark Horse's fault; the comics were supposed to start coming out in June, until Fox stepped in, nuked it all, and made them start from scratch.
Either way, I'm looking forward to what we get at SDCC.
Fox pushed the comics?
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: RakaiThwei on Jul 11, 2014, 09:54:34 PM
Post by: RakaiThwei on Jul 11, 2014, 09:54:34 PM
Quote from: 85 on Jul 11, 2014, 09:18:49 PM
Fox pushed the comics?
Dark Horse has to go through an approval process in order to make sure that their stories meet their standards. The reason why they had pushed the comics back was for re-writes because the comics cannot use material from an upcoming movie. While the writing team has looked at the script, they really can't use material from said movie until long after it's released.
Title: Re: More \"Fire and Stone\" Previews
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 16, 2014, 03:02:39 PM
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 16, 2014, 03:02:39 PM
We have October solicitations!
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/07/16/dark-horse-comics-solicitations-for-october-2014-aliens-predator-buffy-mgmt-fathers-day-and-more/ (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/07/16/dark-horse-comics-solicitations-for-october-2014-aliens-predator-buffy-mgmt-fathers-day-and-more/)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.bleedingcool.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F07%2FSTK652603.jpg%3F9098e0&hash=939a994816cf00ad8b08c82c3fbb3a5627545576)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.bleedingcool.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F07%2FSTK652623.jpg%3F9098e0&hash=925554b39c5c17731be96a4253ac71027d3446f8)
CBR has the release dates:
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=54105 (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=54105)
Aliens vs Predator #1-October 8
Prometheus #2-October 15
Predator #1-October 22
Aliens #2-October 29
October is shaping up to be a very cool month for AvP fans. From what little these have told us about the stories, I think we can already see that they are delivering on their promise of interconnectivity.
The Prometheus #2 cover has me intrigued. That is most definitely an Alien-era suit. Artistic choice or indication of the "temporal niche" the writers have talked about? We'll have to wait and see. ;D
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/07/16/dark-horse-comics-solicitations-for-october-2014-aliens-predator-buffy-mgmt-fathers-day-and-more/ (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/07/16/dark-horse-comics-solicitations-for-october-2014-aliens-predator-buffy-mgmt-fathers-day-and-more/)
QuoteALIEN VS PREDATOR FIRE AND STONE #1 (OF 4)
(W) Christopher Sebela (A) Ariel Olivetti (CA) E.M. Gist
As the mercenary crew of the Perses leave the horror of LV-223 behind them, one passenger reveals a terrible new danger, and the crew soon find themselves in a deadly struggle between predator and prey!
$3.50
PREDATOR FIRE AND STONE #1 (OF 4)
(W) Joshua Williamson (A) Chris Mooneyham (CA) Dan Brown, Lucas Graciano
As the Perses begins her long journey home, a deadly stowaway forces the crew into a savage conflict! While the crew defend themselves against this unseen predator, the hunter itself stalks a much more substantial game!
$3.50
ALIENS FIRE AND STONE #2
(W) Chris Roberson (A) Patric Reynolds (CA) David Palumbo
After crashing their clunky mining ship on a strange planet, a group of human survivors face both xenomorph attacks and friction among themselves-which could spell doom for everyone! The stranded and desperate group has a single chance: one of their scientists, who seeks the key to their freedom.
$3.50
PROMETHEUS FIRE AND STONE #2
(W) Paul Tobin (A) Juan Ferreyra (CA) David Palumbo
After landing on LV-223, a recovery crew uncovers the fate of the Prometheus's doomed mission-and a horror unlike anything known to man!
$3.50
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CBR has the release dates:
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=54105 (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=54105)
Aliens vs Predator #1-October 8
Prometheus #2-October 15
Predator #1-October 22
Aliens #2-October 29
October is shaping up to be a very cool month for AvP fans. From what little these have told us about the stories, I think we can already see that they are delivering on their promise of interconnectivity.
The Prometheus #2 cover has me intrigued. That is most definitely an Alien-era suit. Artistic choice or indication of the "temporal niche" the writers have talked about? We'll have to wait and see. ;D
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: 85 on Jul 16, 2014, 08:51:43 PM
Post by: 85 on Jul 16, 2014, 08:51:43 PM
Seems a little weird that Aliens Vs Predator comes out before Predator. Makes me think the Predator series will be more independent in its own story than Aliens or Prometheus will be.
Title: Re: More \"Fire and Stone\" Previews
Post by: happypred on Jul 17, 2014, 02:27:35 AM
Post by: happypred on Jul 17, 2014, 02:27:35 AM
Quote from: Ultramorph on Jul 16, 2014, 03:02:39 PMQuoteALIEN VS PREDATOR FIRE AND STONE #1 (OF 4)
(W) Christopher Sebela (A) Ariel Olivetti (CA) E.M. Gist
As the mercenary crew of the Perses leave the horror of LV-223 behind them, one passenger reveals a terrible new danger, and the crew soon find themselves in a deadly struggle between predator and prey!
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PREDATOR FIRE AND STONE #1 (OF 4)
(W) Joshua Williamson (A) Chris Mooneyham (CA) Dan Brown, Lucas Graciano
As the Perses begins her long journey home, a deadly stowaway forces the crew into a savage conflict! While the crew defend themselves against this unseen predator, the hunter itself stalks a much more substantial game!
$3.50
The synopses for AvP and Predator are quite similar...seems like there's going to be a big overlap between the two series (not necessarily a bad thing)
Title: Re: More \"Fire and Stone\" Previews
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 17, 2014, 02:44:18 AM
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 17, 2014, 02:44:18 AM
Quote from: happypred on Jul 17, 2014, 02:27:35 AM
The synopses for AvP and Predator are quite similar...seems like there's going to be a big overlap between the two series (not necessarily a bad thing)
That does seem to be the case. It'll be cool if they pull it off.
The release order really has me confused, to be honest. The fact that they're releasing AvP and Predator concurrently with Prometheus and Alien, even though the former are clearly sequels to the latter, is odd. It seems like it would ruin the conclusion of the Aliens and Prometheus series. We'll have to wait and see, as usual.
Title: Re: More \"Fire and Stone\" Previews
Post by: happypred on Jul 17, 2014, 02:50:59 AM
Post by: happypred on Jul 17, 2014, 02:50:59 AM
Quote from: Ultramorph on Jul 17, 2014, 02:44:18 AMThat does seem to be the case. It'll be cool if they pull it off.
Perhaps chronologically, AvP#1 -> Predator #1 -> AvP#2 -> Predator #2 . . .
That would mean if you only buy AvP #1 and AvP #2, you're kinda missing Predator #1 (sales tactic perhaps?)
OR the Perses journeys home well after the Perses leaves the horrors of LV-223. I have no idea really
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 17, 2014, 02:55:07 AM
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 17, 2014, 02:55:07 AM
That's a possibility, too. The writers seems to have a pretty solid plan for how this will all play out, so I'm not too worried about it being a mess.
That idea actually sounds pretty plausible. Galgo and the mercenaries bail after the events of Prometheus #1, then Galgo bails again after AvP #1 and is followed by Ahab, so on and so on.
I'm really looking forward to this.
That idea actually sounds pretty plausible. Galgo and the mercenaries bail after the events of Prometheus #1, then Galgo bails again after AvP #1 and is followed by Ahab, so on and so on.
I'm really looking forward to this.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: happypred on Jul 17, 2014, 01:04:11 PM
Post by: happypred on Jul 17, 2014, 01:04:11 PM
I'm wondering...could Galgo not be what he seems?
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 17, 2014, 05:12:22 PM
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 17, 2014, 05:12:22 PM
Quote from: happypred on Jul 17, 2014, 01:04:11 PM
I'm wondering...could Galgo not be what he seems?
As long as it doesn't turn out that his full name is Galgo McClaren, I'm fine with it! :laugh:
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: 85 on Jul 17, 2014, 09:02:06 PM
Post by: 85 on Jul 17, 2014, 09:02:06 PM
Does someone know what the human thing in the middle is?
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Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: SM on Jul 17, 2014, 09:38:31 PM
Post by: SM on Jul 17, 2014, 09:38:31 PM
Quote from: happypred on Jul 17, 2014, 01:04:11 PM
I'm wondering...could Galgo not be what he seems?
DH have to avoid conflicting with the next two Prometheus films so therefore avoided naming a robot whose name started with E or F...
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 17, 2014, 09:40:17 PM
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 17, 2014, 09:40:17 PM
Quote from: 85 on Jul 17, 2014, 09:02:06 PM
Does someone know what the human thing in the middle is?
The general assumption has been that it's one of the characters mutating in response to the black goo. Exactly which character is open to debate. I'm in the camp that it's one of the synthetics, Elden. I say that because the way his face is melting off is very reminiscent of how Ash's skin burned away in Alien.
On that note, in some of the previews we got about two months back, you can see what we can assume is the same character in a later stage of his mutation. Possible spoilers below.
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http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=52561 (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=52561)
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On another note, Patric Reynolds, the artist on the Aliens series, has apparently been sharing Alien pencils on his Tumblr. There's some cool interior shots of an Engineer ship, as well as some more of his very well-drawn xenos.
http://patricjreynolds.tumblr.com/ (http://patricjreynolds.tumblr.com/)
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Quote from: SM on Jul 17, 2014, 09:38:31 PM
DH have to avoid conflicting with the next two Prometheus films so therefore avoided naming a robot whose name started with E or F...
They actually confirmed at ECCC that there will be an android with an E name: Elden.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: SM on Jul 17, 2014, 09:52:40 PM
Post by: SM on Jul 17, 2014, 09:52:40 PM
Pfft - nothing but a cunning red herring, I'm sure.
Title: Re: More \\\\\\\"Fire and Stone\\\\\\\" Previews
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 17, 2014, 09:54:30 PM
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 17, 2014, 09:54:30 PM
Quote from: SM on Jul 17, 2014, 09:52:40 PM
Pfft - nothing but a cunning red herring, I'm sure.
Could be, though they did explain how it ties in with the "Frankenstein and his monster" arc they they're going for with Francis and Eledn. They described him as a "lower-level synthetic being, less advanced than David," or something very close to that.
AND Patric Reyold's artist page on Facebook has some nice character and ship sketches.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Patric-Reynolds-Artist/212322795470260?sk=photos_stream (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Patric-Reynolds-Artist/212322795470260?sk=photos_stream)
Spoiler
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Spoiler
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Also, the Perses.
Spoiler
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Ariel Olivetti's FB page also has some new art, including a new image of the mysterious mutant from AvP:
https://www.facebook.com/ariel.olivetti/photos (https://www.facebook.com/ariel.olivetti/photos)
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Judging by the face on the creature, I am now speculating that it may in fact be a mutated Engineer.
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Judging by the face on the creature, I am now speculating that it may in fact be a mutated Engineer.
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Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: 85 on Jul 18, 2014, 03:42:26 AM
Post by: 85 on Jul 18, 2014, 03:42:26 AM
I wouldn't mind seeing a issue of just inks. These artists work looks fantastic, and really fit with this universe.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 18, 2014, 04:04:28 AM
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 18, 2014, 04:04:28 AM
I agree, the work we've seen so far has been pretty much great. I do wonder what Reynold's work will look like colored. I like how he seems to use real people as models for a lot of his art (you can see some of this on his Facebook). Olivetti's style isn't for everyone, but I definitely like the color palette and stylization. Hopefully we get even more awesome art at SDCC! :)
I wouldn't be surprised if Dark Horse did an "Art of Fire and Stone" at some point, even if just as a digital thing when these are released in trade.
I wouldn't be surprised if Dark Horse did an "Art of Fire and Stone" at some point, even if just as a digital thing when these are released in trade.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Bender1988 on Jul 18, 2014, 07:37:03 AM
Post by: Bender1988 on Jul 18, 2014, 07:37:03 AM
If Ahab trully looks like this
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in the comic,then his design is the laziest possible-trully shitty. Predator 1 with additionall skull on chest,modified head,and shittly mask.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10169361_678695242166344_5623990494251622208_n.jpg?oh=69788a4e9fdbc4cb8a097fba3bc994bf&oe=5440F0A0&__gda__=1414740630_e3113d04526cf715f9bdee1ca13479d0)
in the comic,then his design is the laziest possible-trully shitty. Predator 1 with additionall skull on chest,modified head,and shittly mask.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 18, 2014, 07:13:42 PM
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 18, 2014, 07:13:42 PM
TFAW is also highlighting Fire and Stone, with a dedicated pre-order page and banner.
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http://www.tfaw.com/aliens-fire-and-stone (http://www.tfaw.com/aliens-fire-and-stone)
Begun, the marketing has. ;D
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http://www.tfaw.com/aliens-fire-and-stone (http://www.tfaw.com/aliens-fire-and-stone)
Begun, the marketing has. ;D
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: happypred on Jul 19, 2014, 07:58:13 AM
Post by: happypred on Jul 19, 2014, 07:58:13 AM
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I'd really like to see some coloured versions
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Ahab is looking nice...hope he will be a memorable character, maybe he won't die at the end
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Looks a bit off to me
The quintessential predator face has always been something like this
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I'd really like to see some coloured versions
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Ahab is looking nice...hope he will be a memorable character, maybe he won't die at the end
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Looks a bit off to me
The quintessential predator face has always been something like this
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.modelzone.com%2Fmangrasshopper%2Fplog-content%2Fimages%2Fmodel-kit-buildups%2Fmasked-neca-predator%2Fnecabiopromo.jpg&hash=4351671160e6a1ab1e45ac2a75b6376fffa9ce09)
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Bender1988 on Jul 19, 2014, 08:48:27 AM
Post by: Bender1988 on Jul 19, 2014, 08:48:27 AM
Quote from: happypred on Jul 19, 2014, 07:58:13 AM
http://38.media.tumblr.com/d430a7e51dd8351196a71739abadf45d/tumblr_n8tq8q20ZB1tw1qkzo1_500.jpg
I'd really like to see some coloured versions
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10169361_678695242166344_5623990494251622208_n.jpg?oh=69788a4e9fdbc4cb8a097fba3bc994bf&oe=5440F0A0&__gda__=1414740630_e3113d04526cf715f9bdee1ca13479d0)
Ahab is looking nice...hope he will be a memorable character, maybe he won't die at the end
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10363646_10203752120744857_7299112202354837586_n.jpg?oh=6fe1b96b87667a5adc0220e013d80127&oe=54375B04&__gda__=1413705746_2dc1cde7cd36b63c1383aceb7b62450c)
Looks a bit off to me
The quintessential predator face has always been something like this
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.modelzone.com%2Fmangrasshopper%2Fplog-content%2Fimages%2Fmodel-kit-buildups%2Fmasked-neca-predator%2Fnecabiopromo.jpg&hash=4351671160e6a1ab1e45ac2a75b6376fffa9ce09)
Ahab on this concept art looks like garbage-its just jungle hunter with additional skull,some scarring,and shitty spear+really lame mask-he looks like garbage-nothing new,nothing original.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: happypred on Jul 19, 2014, 10:32:01 AM
Post by: happypred on Jul 19, 2014, 10:32:01 AM
Quote from: Bender1988 on Jul 19, 2014, 08:48:27 AM
Ahab on this concept art looks like garbage-its just jungle hunter with additional skull,some scarring,and shitty spear+really lame mask-he looks like garbage-nothing new,nothing original.
I think it looks fine...you're entitled to your opinion
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Skulexander on Jul 20, 2014, 10:09:12 AM
Post by: Skulexander on Jul 20, 2014, 10:09:12 AM
Dude... Calm down. Not every predator can look vastly different from every other predator. They all come from the same world. They come from the same culture. They use the same equipment. After so many predators are invented, there are going to be ones that look similar to each other. That's just the way it is. That's the way it is with humans too.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Master on Jul 20, 2014, 10:51:34 AM
Post by: Master on Jul 20, 2014, 10:51:34 AM
Well the thing is, when new predator is created 90% times, it is based on first one. I prefere designs from second film.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Bender1988 on Jul 21, 2014, 08:28:30 AM
Post by: Bender1988 on Jul 21, 2014, 08:28:30 AM
Quote from: Skulexander on Jul 20, 2014, 10:09:12 AMNo damn it I wont calm down.
Dude... Calm down. Not every predator can look vastly different from every other predator. They all come from the same world. They come from the same culture. They use the same equipment. After so many predators are invented, there are going to be ones that look similar to each other. That's just the way it is. That's the way it is with humans too.
I draw Predators,have more than 200 original ones,and i would like to see something fresh,original in a comic book,not yet another reuse of the original-lack of creativity.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: SM on Jul 21, 2014, 08:35:51 AM
Post by: SM on Jul 21, 2014, 08:35:51 AM
And when you draw a comic you'll get to draw them just how you like.
His mask looks interesting.
His mask looks interesting.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Bender1988 on Jul 21, 2014, 09:14:29 AM
Post by: Bender1988 on Jul 21, 2014, 09:14:29 AM
Quote from: SM on Jul 21, 2014, 08:35:51 AMYeah-it is probably not the artist fault, the predator he was told to draw looks like a cheap knock off of the original.
And when you draw a comic you'll get to draw them just how you like.
His mask looks interesting.
Cant say his mask looks interesting-well i hate the design overall-for the lack of any creativity, its just copy and paste :(
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: happypred on Jul 21, 2014, 10:05:00 AM
Post by: happypred on Jul 21, 2014, 10:05:00 AM
You deviate too much from the original, people complain
You stick to the original, people complain
It's a fine line
You stick to the original, people complain
It's a fine line
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: SM on Jul 21, 2014, 10:29:20 AM
Post by: SM on Jul 21, 2014, 10:29:20 AM
It's a given - people complain.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Bender1988 on Jul 21, 2014, 12:19:05 PM
Post by: Bender1988 on Jul 21, 2014, 12:19:05 PM
Quote from: happypred on Jul 21, 2014, 10:05:00 AMthats true, but if only they would make Ahab look like this (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tapatalk.com%2Fd%2F14%2F05%2F30%2Fthumbnail%2Fu9ute7am.jpg&hash=bdd4d1bafc16bc222e18720683b76a19c8d6aa09) i would be really fine with it-it has the same armor placement as anytime/jungle hunter,but his armor as similiar as it is-it is diffrent,but they went with anytime 99%copy-and i wil lnever accept this level of lazyness.
You deviate too much from the original, people complain
You stick to the original, people complain
It's a fine line
Stil lhave big hopes for this new comic line to be good.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 21, 2014, 04:57:36 PM
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 21, 2014, 04:57:36 PM
I think Ahab will probably look better in the comics themselves, but who knows.
What I'm really interested in is what's going on with this mutant thing. Engineer mutating into something else? Human mutating into Engineer mutating into something else? At least October isn't too far away.
(https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t1.0-9/10501755_10204072441152667_1763289188421787079_n.jpg)
What I'm really interested in is what's going on with this mutant thing. Engineer mutating into something else? Human mutating into Engineer mutating into something else? At least October isn't too far away.
(https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t1.0-9/10501755_10204072441152667_1763289188421787079_n.jpg)
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: TheBATMAN on Jul 21, 2014, 09:46:47 PM
Post by: TheBATMAN on Jul 21, 2014, 09:46:47 PM
Well it's not an Engineer unless they have learned to speak English...
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: 85 on Jul 22, 2014, 03:01:07 AM
Post by: 85 on Jul 22, 2014, 03:01:07 AM
Engineer/ human/Alien hybrid?
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: SM on Jul 22, 2014, 03:10:03 AM
Post by: SM on Jul 22, 2014, 03:10:03 AM
Engineers and humans are genetically identical.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 22, 2014, 03:50:55 AM
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 22, 2014, 03:50:55 AM
That being said, the dorsal tubes definitely make me think the creature has some xenomorph in it. I think we're in for some cool twists and turns in these comics.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: SM on Jul 22, 2014, 03:52:47 AM
Post by: SM on Jul 22, 2014, 03:52:47 AM
Indeed.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: happypred on Jul 22, 2014, 04:19:13 AM
Post by: happypred on Jul 22, 2014, 04:19:13 AM
Let's take a look at these two
1. The colour piece with Galgo:
2. The concept art:
In 1, the predator looks bulkier and the armour looks more AvP-ish. The mask resembles the Lord Mask of AvP2010.
In 2, he looks leaner. The face is like Jungle Hunter's. I'm not opposed to that. The scarring is reminiscent of Wolf's. His armour looks more classic (not AvP-ish), same Lord Mask. He seems to have a ragged cape going on.
I think both are decent. I don't find the colour piece to be particularly more original than the concept art. The glaive, spear, axe thing looks cool to me.
1. The colour piece with Galgo:
Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.darkhorse.com%2Fdarkhorse%2Findex_images%2Fblog%2FPredator.jpg&hash=361a5260f78e74a7478dd2511d181c93f58ae3c6)
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2. The concept art:
Spoiler
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10169361_678695242166344_5623990494251622208_n.jpg?oh=69788a4e9fdbc4cb8a097fba3bc994bf&oe=5440F0A0&__gda__=1414740630_e3113d04526cf715f9bdee1ca13479d0)
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In 1, the predator looks bulkier and the armour looks more AvP-ish. The mask resembles the Lord Mask of AvP2010.
In 2, he looks leaner. The face is like Jungle Hunter's. I'm not opposed to that. The scarring is reminiscent of Wolf's. His armour looks more classic (not AvP-ish), same Lord Mask. He seems to have a ragged cape going on.
I think both are decent. I don't find the colour piece to be particularly more original than the concept art. The glaive, spear, axe thing looks cool to me.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: 85 on Jul 24, 2014, 08:21:06 PM
Post by: 85 on Jul 24, 2014, 08:21:06 PM
Comic con panel tonite!
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 24, 2014, 09:41:44 PM
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 24, 2014, 09:41:44 PM
Quote from: 85 on Jul 24, 2014, 08:21:06 PM
Comic con panel tonite!
Any luck finding a link where we can watch a live stream?
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: 85 on Jul 24, 2014, 10:14:26 PM
Post by: 85 on Jul 24, 2014, 10:14:26 PM
Quote from: Ultramorph on Jul 24, 2014, 09:41:44 PMQuote from: 85 on Jul 24, 2014, 08:21:06 PM
Comic con panel tonite!
Any luck finding a link where we can watch a live stream?
Nope, have they said if they will?
Title: Re: More \\\"Fire and Stone\\\" Previews
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 24, 2014, 10:18:19 PM
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 24, 2014, 10:18:19 PM
I haven't herd anything, and that probably indicates that they won't. That stinks, but hopefully we get a decent write-up on one of the myriad sites covering SDCC. The one write-up of the ECC panel that I found back then was dreadful, though, so it could go either way.
First article I've seen about the panel. Sadly not too much new info, but there was some interesting stuff about the chronological setting.
http://comicsbeat.com/sdcc-14-dark-horses-aliens-predator-prometheus-and-beyond-panel/ (http://comicsbeat.com/sdcc-14-dark-horses-aliens-predator-prometheus-and-beyond-panel/)
So Alien, and the rest of Fire and Stone apparently, will indeed take place around the time of Alien. It should be interesting to see what they do with that.
Also, apparently Fox calls the black goo "accelerant."
New interview with Sebela and Williamson, too. Not much new, but Sebela reiterates that he doesn't consider the AvP movies canon.
http://www.previewsworld.com/Home/1/1/71/977?articleID=151368 (http://www.previewsworld.com/Home/1/1/71/977?articleID=151368)
First article I've seen about the panel. Sadly not too much new info, but there was some interesting stuff about the chronological setting.
http://comicsbeat.com/sdcc-14-dark-horses-aliens-predator-prometheus-and-beyond-panel/ (http://comicsbeat.com/sdcc-14-dark-horses-aliens-predator-prometheus-and-beyond-panel/)
Quote- The chronology of "Fire and Stone" was also cleared up, as Aliens is a pseudo prequel to the other tales, and takes place between scenes of Aliens (the film), Predator takes place after the other minis and Prometheus Omega is the finale.
So Alien, and the rest of Fire and Stone apparently, will indeed take place around the time of Alien. It should be interesting to see what they do with that.
Also, apparently Fox calls the black goo "accelerant."
New interview with Sebela and Williamson, too. Not much new, but Sebela reiterates that he doesn't consider the AvP movies canon.
http://www.previewsworld.com/Home/1/1/71/977?articleID=151368 (http://www.previewsworld.com/Home/1/1/71/977?articleID=151368)
Title: Re: More \\\"Fire and Stone\\\" Previews
Post by: RakaiThwei on Jul 25, 2014, 06:09:52 AM
Post by: RakaiThwei on Jul 25, 2014, 06:09:52 AM
Quote from: Ultramorph on Jul 24, 2014, 10:18:19 PM
New interview with Sebela and Williamson, too. Not much new, but Sebela reiterates that he doesn't consider the AvP movies canon.
But that's his opinion and his only, where as the other writers such as Tobin suggested somewhat otherwise.. somewhat anyway. As for him mentioning the comics, he also says he's starting as fresh as possible, so I am assuming we're supposed to approach this new series without really knowing anything of the previous EU material or we're supposed to leave the previous publications out of mind.. so for all intense and purposes, this is a new take entirely.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: SM on Jul 25, 2014, 08:31:29 AM
Post by: SM on Jul 25, 2014, 08:31:29 AM
QuoteAlso, apparently Fox calls the black goo "accelerant."
I don't know if Fox came up with that, but that is indeed what it's being called now. Which is a great name IMO.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Xenomrph on Jul 25, 2014, 04:59:21 PM
Post by: Xenomrph on Jul 25, 2014, 04:59:21 PM
Quote from: SM on Jul 25, 2014, 08:31:29 AMThat is a great name, where else has it been used?QuoteAlso, apparently Fox calls the black goo "accelerant."
I don't know if Fox came up with that, but that is indeed what it's being called now. Which is a great name IMO.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 25, 2014, 07:30:32 PM
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 25, 2014, 07:30:32 PM
"Accelerant" works really well with the Promethean imagery of fire; it sorts of hints at the black goo as something that speeds up or enhances a being's evolutionary tendencies. Now we just need to figure out what the stone is in "Fire and Stone"! ;)
I'm really interested to see how the Alien series intersects with the original film. They really weren't joking when they said that some of the series would happen "just off screen" from the films. Between this and Palumbo's "familiar landscape" on the ECC mural, I wouldn't be shocked if we went back to LV-426 at some point in this series.
I'm really interested to see how the Alien series intersects with the original film. They really weren't joking when they said that some of the series would happen "just off screen" from the films. Between this and Palumbo's "familiar landscape" on the ECC mural, I wouldn't be shocked if we went back to LV-426 at some point in this series.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: shadowedge on Jul 26, 2014, 03:08:36 PM
Post by: shadowedge on Jul 26, 2014, 03:08:36 PM
I did not know that each of these was going to be a 4 issue mini series. That is awesome. I hope it sells well enough to rejuvenate this series of comics for years.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: 85 on Jul 27, 2014, 07:41:58 PM
Post by: 85 on Jul 27, 2014, 07:41:58 PM
http://www.darkhorse.com/Blog/1793/top-ten-dark-horse-experiences-sdcc-2014 (http://www.darkhorse.com/Blog/1793/top-ten-dark-horse-experiences-sdcc-2014)
Mini comic and poster? ???
Mini comic and poster? ???
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 28, 2014, 07:46:05 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 28, 2014, 07:46:05 AM
I saw the posters - nothing about a mini-comic though.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 28, 2014, 06:40:46 PM
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 28, 2014, 06:40:46 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 28, 2014, 07:46:05 AM
I saw the posters - nothing about a mini-comic though.
Maybe that was referring to the Isolation comic?
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 29, 2014, 06:16:06 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 29, 2014, 06:16:06 AM
Quote from: Ultramorph on Jul 28, 2014, 06:40:46 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 28, 2014, 07:46:05 AM
I saw the posters - nothing about a mini-comic though.
Maybe that was referring to the Isolation comic?
Seems most likely.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: 85 on Jul 29, 2014, 01:38:37 PM
Post by: 85 on Jul 29, 2014, 01:38:37 PM
http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=291202321494 (http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=291202321494)
Looks like there was a mini comic!
Looks like there was a mini comic!
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 29, 2014, 04:09:27 PM
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 29, 2014, 04:09:27 PM
Quote from: 85 on Jul 29, 2014, 01:38:37 PM
http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=291202321494 (http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=291202321494)
Looks like there was a mini comic!
Very interesting. I wonder if it's just a compilation of the pages we've seen in previews. At $70, it looks like that will remain a mystery.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: happypred on Jul 30, 2014, 01:39:55 AM
Post by: happypred on Jul 30, 2014, 01:39:55 AM
Quote from: Ultramorph on Jul 29, 2014, 04:09:27 PM
Very interesting. I wonder if it's just a compilation of the pages we've seen in previews. At $70, it looks like that will remain a mystery.
Likely a compilation, wouldn't get my hopes up. That said...we're not too far off from Aliens #1
Does anyone think this "re-boot" could be worse than the 2009 attempt?
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: 85 on Jul 30, 2014, 02:07:25 AM
Post by: 85 on Jul 30, 2014, 02:07:25 AM
Quote from: happypred on Jul 30, 2014, 01:39:55 AMQuote from: Ultramorph on Jul 29, 2014, 04:09:27 PM
Very interesting. I wonder if it's just a compilation of the pages we've seen in previews. At $70, it looks like that will remain a mystery.
Likely a compilation, wouldn't get my hopes up. That said...we're not too far off from Aliens #1
Does anyone think this "re-boot" could be worse than the 2009 attempt?
Only if they make it over complicated and change artist randomly in the middle of the run. That's what kept me away from some of the earlier comics.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: SM on Jul 30, 2014, 02:22:41 AM
Post by: SM on Jul 30, 2014, 02:22:41 AM
What was so bad about the 2009 run again (other than the fact they didn't take off)?
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: RakaiThwei on Jul 30, 2014, 02:33:17 AM
Post by: RakaiThwei on Jul 30, 2014, 02:33:17 AM
Quote from: happypred on Jul 30, 2014, 01:39:55 AM
Does anyone think this "re-boot" could be worse than the 2009 attempt?
I am not going to say that this run will be good, I am not going to say that this run will be bad.. I will say that I am not going to be spending my money on this upcoming print.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 30, 2014, 07:22:28 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 30, 2014, 07:22:28 AM
Quote from: SM on Jul 30, 2014, 02:22:41 AM
What was so bad about the 2009 run again (other than the fact they didn't take off)?
Nothing really. Aliens was pretty interesting (but then went nowhere with the questions). Predator was pretty boring. AvP - it was the artwork that mostly turned people off and I understand that. It worked really well during the action scenes but when nothing was happening it was just dull to look at. And it didn't answer the questions about the Alien's appearance.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: RakaiThwei on Jul 30, 2014, 02:55:33 PM
Post by: RakaiThwei on Jul 30, 2014, 02:55:33 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 30, 2014, 07:22:28 AM
AvP - it was the artwork that mostly turned people off and I understand that.
I really wish we could've had a better artist for that run. The art in the comic was just so ugly, and I really didn't like how the characters were drawn. Dark Horse made a terrible choice for the artist as far as I am concerned. However I really did like the storyline and how it tried to tie in the books together, I'll give it that.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 30, 2014, 07:22:28 AM
And it didn't answer the questions about the Alien's appearance.
We were promised or at the least, told that we would be given an explanation to why the Aliens had those unusual things on their faces. We were never given said explanation unfortunately.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: happypred on Jul 31, 2014, 12:42:53 AM
Post by: happypred on Jul 31, 2014, 12:42:53 AM
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Jul 30, 2014, 02:55:33 PM
I really wish we could've had a better artist for that run. The art in the comic was just so ugly
Ugly and cartoonish...not my cup of tea. I thought Civilised Beasts had much better art and I'm not saying that CB has phenomenal art
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: RakaiThwei on Jul 31, 2014, 01:06:15 AM
Post by: RakaiThwei on Jul 31, 2014, 01:06:15 AM
Quote from: happypred on Jul 31, 2014, 12:42:53 AM
Ugly and cartoonish...not my cup of tea. I thought Civilised Beasts had much better art and I'm not saying that CB has phenomenal art
Thrill of the Hunt and Civilized Beast had a fair enough storyline. The art was just... I don't want to say bad, it definitely wasn't bad but it was dull in some ways. It sort of improved with Civilized Beasts.. Possibly because of the fact they had different colorists. Coloring styles can go a loooooong way.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: happypred on Jul 31, 2014, 04:41:15 PM
Post by: happypred on Jul 31, 2014, 04:41:15 PM
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Jul 31, 2014, 01:06:15 AMIt sort of improved with Thrill of the HuntThrill of the Hunt was 2004, Civilised Beasts was 2008
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: RakaiThwei on Jul 31, 2014, 07:19:24 PM
Post by: RakaiThwei on Jul 31, 2014, 07:19:24 PM
Quote from: happypred on Jul 31, 2014, 04:41:15 PM
Thrill of the Hunt was 2004, Civilised Beasts was 2008
My mistake, I got the two confused with each other but either way it turns out that they have different colorists. Civilized Beasts had the better colorists, since he brought more life to the illustrations. The other one? Not so much. That's what I meant to get across in my previous posts.
Title: Re: More \"Fire and Stone\" Previews
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 31, 2014, 08:26:40 PM
Post by: Ultramorph on Jul 31, 2014, 08:26:40 PM
Some definitive news about the time-stamp, courtesy of Aliens artist Patric Reynolds.
He took a pic of his desk with the Aliens #3 script on it, and it clearly says "October 30, 2179."
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F38.media.tumblr.com%2F12fb98b535f8b986f51c2d50d73aaa98%2Ftumblr_n9ldlm4YJe1tw1qkzo1_500.jpg&hash=fb5ec2458dc57b5499054cd894492cd1621c0cfb)
Looks like "Fire and Stone" will be intersecting with Alien AND Aliens. This once again raises the possibility of going back to LV-426, not to mention the possible presence of a certain member of the Ripley clan.
This also raises the interesting possibility that the xenomorph outbreak that Derrick Russel and his crew are escaping from is the one going on at Hadley's Hope.
He took a pic of his desk with the Aliens #3 script on it, and it clearly says "October 30, 2179."
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F38.media.tumblr.com%2F12fb98b535f8b986f51c2d50d73aaa98%2Ftumblr_n9ldlm4YJe1tw1qkzo1_500.jpg&hash=fb5ec2458dc57b5499054cd894492cd1621c0cfb)
Looks like "Fire and Stone" will be intersecting with Alien AND Aliens. This once again raises the possibility of going back to LV-426, not to mention the possible presence of a certain member of the Ripley clan.
This also raises the interesting possibility that the xenomorph outbreak that Derrick Russel and his crew are escaping from is the one going on at Hadley's Hope.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Ultramorph on Aug 05, 2014, 06:12:09 PM
Post by: Ultramorph on Aug 05, 2014, 06:12:09 PM
AND my suspicions have been confirmed, once again by Aliens artist Patric Reynolds. Very big spoilers below, don't look if you don't want a big part of Fire and Stone spoiled.
Spoiler
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/1454571_706137852755416_124680144595874568_n.jpg?oh=966ac9a0e168815ee0e746124fda1cf9&oe=5457B644&__gda__=1414227129_be4fd7e1ac589b2ad3a59a6c2631c72b)
As you can see, the planet that Russel and his crew are escaping from is indeed Acheron when it's being overrun in 2179.
Given that the third Titan book is also set to deal with the outbreak on LV-426, I wonder if Russel or any of the characters from this comic will wind up having cameos, assuming Dark Horse and Titan were aware that each one was touching on the same setting.
As you can see, the planet that Russel and his crew are escaping from is indeed Acheron when it's being overrun in 2179.
Given that the third Titan book is also set to deal with the outbreak on LV-426, I wonder if Russel or any of the characters from this comic will wind up having cameos, assuming Dark Horse and Titan were aware that each one was touching on the same setting.
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Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 06, 2014, 11:14:48 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 06, 2014, 11:14:48 AM
They really seem to be trying to cross a lot of media at the minute. I like it.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Ultramorph on Aug 08, 2014, 12:26:20 AM
Post by: Ultramorph on Aug 08, 2014, 12:26:20 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 06, 2014, 11:14:48 AM
They really seem to be trying to cross a lot of media at the minute. I like it.
I like it as well. Hopefully they can pull it off in a cool way. I may have been a bit down on Sea of Sorrows in my review, but I still like a lot of what they're setting up.
Back to the timetsamp issue, Chris Roberson let slip a tad more info in an interview:
http://www.comicmonsters.com/item-8792-_Aliens_Fire_and_Stone_Interview_with_Chris_Roberson.html (http://www.comicmonsters.com/item-8792-_Aliens_Fire_and_Stone_Interview_with_Chris_Roberson.html)
Spoiler
QuoteChris Roberson: ALIENS: FIRE AND STONE almost serves as a prequel or prologue to the other books, in that it takes place some years before the others. My artistic collaborator Patric Reynolds and I get to set up a lot of the situations and environment that the other creative teams will be exploring.
So it appears that the bulk of Fire and Stone will be happening post Alien 3. It will definitely be cool if this and/or River of Pain provide some context to a few things in Sea of Sorrows, IE the reverse engineering of alien tech.
Actually, come to think of it, with Roberson saying that the other three series happen "some years" later, I'm reminded of one of the other writers (possibly DeConnick) saying that "events span over decades" a while back. That makes me wonder if maybe Fire and Stone will explain the "260 years" line from Sea of Sorrows. 2237 can certainly be described as "some years" and "decades" (obviously) from 2179.
Either way I'm excited to find out!
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Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Vrastal on Aug 08, 2014, 01:52:01 AM
Post by: Vrastal on Aug 08, 2014, 01:52:01 AM
so the new comics ar esuppsoed to tie in with Alien, Aliens, Alien3 Out of shadows, Sea of Sorrows and river of pain which from what i can tell has nothing to do with the first two books?
I feel so lost and confused
I feel so lost and confused
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Ultramorph on Aug 08, 2014, 02:00:57 AM
Post by: Ultramorph on Aug 08, 2014, 02:00:57 AM
I think it's more of a situation where the comics, novels, and A:I all happen in the same universe, and thus none of the stories contradict each other. Any places that they overlap will probably be more in the form of small references. Each thing will be it's own story, but when read in conversation with each other, they'll tell a bigger story.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: SM on Aug 08, 2014, 02:13:12 AM
Post by: SM on Aug 08, 2014, 02:13:12 AM
The comics, new novels and Isolation are all reading off the same hymnbook - which is Prometheus, Alien, Aliens, Alien3 and Resurrection (and sometimes each other).
The extent of how much they link and reference each other remains to be seen.
The extent of how much they link and reference each other remains to be seen.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Ultramorph on Aug 11, 2014, 04:18:56 PM
Post by: Ultramorph on Aug 11, 2014, 04:18:56 PM
Scott Allie did a new interview over at Bleeding Cool (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/08/11/discussions-with-scott-allie-dark-horses-strategies-for-sdcc-2014-defining-creator-owned-prometheus-fight-club-2-and-the-whedon-threeway/ (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/08/11/discussions-with-scott-allie-dark-horses-strategies-for-sdcc-2014-defining-creator-owned-prometheus-fight-club-2-and-the-whedon-threeway/)), and while he doesn't say much that we haven't heard before, he did drop some nice new artwork.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.bleedingcool.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F08%2F1.png%3F9098e0&hash=da1b4b41bebd941774b7773202af8a7887395258)
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I'm certainly sold on the Deacon-sharks. ;D
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.bleedingcool.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F08%2F1.png%3F9098e0&hash=da1b4b41bebd941774b7773202af8a7887395258)
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I'm certainly sold on the Deacon-sharks. ;D
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: RakaiThwei on Aug 11, 2014, 04:36:46 PM
Post by: RakaiThwei on Aug 11, 2014, 04:36:46 PM
Are.. Are those Deacon-Monkeys or Xeno-Apes in the last picture?
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Ultramorph on Aug 11, 2014, 04:54:28 PM
Post by: Ultramorph on Aug 11, 2014, 04:54:28 PM
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Aug 11, 2014, 04:36:46 PM
Are.. Are those Deacon-Monkeys or Xeno-Apes in the last picture?
I do believe they are. Juan Ferryra posted a concept of a "monkey" creature a few months back, and in the page from the Aliens script that Patric Reynolds posted, a character does say something about monkeys.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BcdqgrcCQAAaQaf.jpg)
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: RakaiThwei on Aug 11, 2014, 04:56:51 PM
Post by: RakaiThwei on Aug 11, 2014, 04:56:51 PM
The Deacon-Sharks are definitely something of Lovecraftian nightmare fuel.. I'll admit that.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Ultramorph on Aug 11, 2014, 11:00:41 PM
Post by: Ultramorph on Aug 11, 2014, 11:00:41 PM
AvP artist Ariel Olivetti just dropped a really cool preview of some AvP art, including Predators fighting the mysterious white mutant. I can't wait for October!
(https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10351904_10204254896793944_7396272133138075867_n.jpg?oh=b487eb16215fda19349eee047975dc07&oe=54607B7E)
(https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10351904_10204254896793944_7396272133138075867_n.jpg?oh=b487eb16215fda19349eee047975dc07&oe=54607B7E)
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: RakaiThwei on Aug 12, 2014, 12:47:55 AM
Post by: RakaiThwei on Aug 12, 2014, 12:47:55 AM
Almost looks like Ahab killing the mutant.. :-\
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: happypred on Aug 12, 2014, 02:20:42 AM
Post by: happypred on Aug 12, 2014, 02:20:42 AM
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Aug 12, 2014, 12:47:55 AM
Almost looks like Ahab killing the mutant.. :-\
That looks like one of the no-mesh "super predators" is attacking the mutant to little effect
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: SM on Aug 12, 2014, 02:30:41 AM
Post by: SM on Aug 12, 2014, 02:30:41 AM
That Predator has a wicked 'tache.
And is the one in the bottom panel ripping his own accelerant affected hand off - or another Predators?
And is the one in the bottom panel ripping his own accelerant affected hand off - or another Predators?
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: RakaiThwei on Aug 12, 2014, 03:30:15 AM
Post by: RakaiThwei on Aug 12, 2014, 03:30:15 AM
Quote from: SM on Aug 12, 2014, 02:30:41 AM
And is the one in the bottom panel ripping his own accelerant affected hand off - or another Predators?
I'm willing to bet that this is going to be the mutant ripping off a Predator's hand. Something tells me a lot of Predators are going to be cannon fodder for this creature.
Quote from: happypred on Aug 12, 2014, 02:20:42 AM
That looks like one of the no-mesh "super predators" is attacking the mutant to little effect
That's probably an indication of the prediction above. "Super Predators" aside.. I'm thinking the Prometheus creatures are going to be getting all the cookies here for this comic run.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: happypred on Aug 12, 2014, 06:45:05 AM
Post by: happypred on Aug 12, 2014, 06:45:05 AM
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Aug 12, 2014, 03:30:15 AM
. . .
What's likely is the "super predators" look like amateurs while wily veteran Ahab goes about being awesome. That's a nice way of pleasing predator fans who don't like the supers
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: RakaiThwei on Aug 12, 2014, 07:16:37 AM
Post by: RakaiThwei on Aug 12, 2014, 07:16:37 AM
Quote from: happypred on Aug 12, 2014, 06:45:05 AM
That's a nice way of pleasing predator fans who don't like the supers
Personally, I still wouldn't want the "Supers". They were the deal breaker for me.
You guys have fun, I'm waiting for the Shane Black movie.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 12, 2014, 10:59:15 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 12, 2014, 10:59:15 AM
I'm liking the looks of some of this art. And I'm pretty excited to see how everything is shaken up in the post Prometheus/Predators world. I can't wait to see the Super Predators rip Classic into pieces.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Master on Aug 12, 2014, 12:59:58 PM
Post by: Master on Aug 12, 2014, 12:59:58 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 12, 2014, 10:59:15 AM
I'm liking the looks of some of this art. And I'm pretty excited to see how everything is shaken up in the post Prometheus/Predators world. I can't wait to see the Super Predators rip Classic into pieces.
U trollin dude?
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: happypred on Aug 12, 2014, 04:47:24 PM
Post by: happypred on Aug 12, 2014, 04:47:24 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 12, 2014, 10:59:15 AMI can't wait to see the Super Predators rip Classic into pieces.
I know right! I can't wait for the Deacons to take a big ol' sh*t all over the original aliens
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Ultramorph on Aug 12, 2014, 05:20:06 PM
Post by: Ultramorph on Aug 12, 2014, 05:20:06 PM
November solicitations should be out this week, or maybe early next week, so we should expect a few more covers and story blurbs.
I'm just getting very excited thinking about how from October through January there will be some sort of A/v/P/Prometheus release just about every week. ;D
And to put in my two cents: I can't wait to see Ahab go toe-to-toe with some Engineers and other Accelerant beasties.
I'm just getting very excited thinking about how from October through January there will be some sort of A/v/P/Prometheus release just about every week. ;D
And to put in my two cents: I can't wait to see Ahab go toe-to-toe with some Engineers and other Accelerant beasties.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 12, 2014, 08:06:27 PM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 12, 2014, 08:06:27 PM
Quote from: Master on Aug 12, 2014, 12:59:58 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 12, 2014, 10:59:15 AM
I'm liking the looks of some of this art. And I'm pretty excited to see how everything is shaken up in the post Prometheus/Predators world. I can't wait to see the Super Predators rip Classic into pieces.
U trollin dude?
I am. Because I hate people calling them Super Predators. They're not. The Super Predators never made it onto the screen.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: RakaiThwei on Aug 12, 2014, 08:28:37 PM
Post by: RakaiThwei on Aug 12, 2014, 08:28:37 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 12, 2014, 08:06:27 PM
I am. Because I hate people calling them Super Predators. They're not.
We can agree that they are far from super, arguably inferior if PREDATORS showed us anything. But whether or not they are called Super Predators, like it or not every official source out there has referred to them as such. NECA has referred to them as such, Fox has referred to them as such and more importantly, Rodriguez and Antal have referred to them as such.
Personally, I don't like them being lumped in as Yautja when the sub-species idea suggest they are not. They should be retconned to the Hish. Retcon that and all should be a little bit better.
As for them being in the new comics, according to Sebela.. these Super Predators aren't supposed to be Super Predators though the foot anatomy suggest otherwise. I'm going in as far as nothing more than design homage or merely artistic choice by Olivetti.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Master on Aug 12, 2014, 08:34:55 PM
Post by: Master on Aug 12, 2014, 08:34:55 PM
You and I both know where the term kame from and that it was never filmed (thanks God). But it's easier to use Super Predators in discussion instead of 'those other predators form Predators'. ;)
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: happypred on Aug 13, 2014, 12:17:13 AM
Post by: happypred on Aug 13, 2014, 12:17:13 AM
It looks like Ahab is possibly going to be the only "Classic" in the series
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: SM on Aug 13, 2014, 12:34:15 AM
Post by: SM on Aug 13, 2014, 12:34:15 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 12, 2014, 08:06:27 PMQuote from: Master on Aug 12, 2014, 12:59:58 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 12, 2014, 10:59:15 AM
I'm liking the looks of some of this art. And I'm pretty excited to see how everything is shaken up in the post Prometheus/Predators world. I can't wait to see the Super Predators rip Classic into pieces.
U trollin dude?
I am. Because I hate people calling them Super Predators. They're not. The Super Predators never made it onto the screen.
Neither did a "runner" but we got over it. ;D
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: RakaiThwei on Aug 13, 2014, 12:42:06 AM
Post by: RakaiThwei on Aug 13, 2014, 12:42:06 AM
Quote from: happypred on Aug 13, 2014, 12:17:13 AM
It looks like Ahab is possibly going to be the only "Classic" in the series
Unless we go by what Sebela says, then the other Predators might as well be "Classics" but wearing Super Predator type armor. Of course that assumption would hold up if the illustrations didn't suggest otherwise. At this point I think it's up to the reader to decide.
Though I wouldn't think that the Supers stopped their feud with the traditional Predators to form a unified clan or allow a "Classic" to lead them.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Ultramorph on Aug 13, 2014, 01:15:52 AM
Post by: Ultramorph on Aug 13, 2014, 01:15:52 AM
IIRC way back last year when the Predator series was first announced, Williamson said that it would be about an older Predator on his last great hunt, and the younger Predators trying to bring him down. Since the "last great hunt" plot seems to have gone unchanged, my guess is that the other Predators we've seen are the younger ones competing with Ahab. As to whether they're "Super Predators" or not, my thinking is that they'll leave it ambiguous, IE not really address it one way or another. Sebela has said that he thinks Predators was a dumb expansion of the series on Twitter, and the writers have stressed that they're only using Predator, Prometheus, and the first two Alien films for inspiration, so I think it's unlikely that Williamson or Sebela would write Super Predators into the series. Barring a Fox mandate, that is.
I've been wrong on many of the things I've speculated, though, so take it with a grain of salt.
I've been wrong on many of the things I've speculated, though, so take it with a grain of salt.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: RakaiThwei on Aug 13, 2014, 01:28:48 AM
Post by: RakaiThwei on Aug 13, 2014, 01:28:48 AM
Quote from: Ultramorph on Aug 13, 2014, 01:15:52 AM
Sebela has said that he thinks Predators was a dumb expansion of the series on Twitter
When did he say that?
Quote from: Ultramorph on Aug 13, 2014, 01:15:52 AM
so I think it's unlikely that Williamson or Sebela would write Super Predators into the series. Barring a Fox mandate, that is.
Actually Williamson did say that he was a sucker for PREDATORS, he also did say that he wanted to bring in tiny elements of that movie into the comics so... Someone obviously brought the Super Predators over. Unless of course that was entirely Olivetti's part on that end of the spectrum right then and there.
Title: Re: More \"Fire and Stone\" Previews
Post by: Ultramorph on Aug 13, 2014, 01:33:34 AM
Post by: Ultramorph on Aug 13, 2014, 01:33:34 AM
I'll look for a link for the Sebela quote when I next go on my laptop. It was a response to one of his tweets about the Shane Black Predator movie.
Maybe I should just ask Olivetti on Facebook, see if he gives a straight answer.
Here's the quote:
https://twitter.com/xtop/status/481567373804441600 (https://twitter.com/xtop/status/481567373804441600)
Maybe I should just ask Olivetti on Facebook, see if he gives a straight answer.
Here's the quote:
https://twitter.com/xtop/status/481567373804441600 (https://twitter.com/xtop/status/481567373804441600)
Title: Re: More \"Fire and Stone\" Previews
Post by: RakaiThwei on Aug 13, 2014, 01:49:59 AM
Post by: RakaiThwei on Aug 13, 2014, 01:49:59 AM
Quote from: Ultramorph on Aug 13, 2014, 01:33:34 AM
Maybe I should just ask Olivetti on Facebook, see if he gives a straight answer.
Please do.
Quote from: Ultramorph on Aug 13, 2014, 01:33:34 AM
https://twitter.com/xtop/status/481567373804441600 (https://twitter.com/xtop/status/481567373804441600)
HAH!!
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: happypred on Aug 13, 2014, 01:58:56 AM
Post by: happypred on Aug 13, 2014, 01:58:56 AM
It looks like Ahab and the no-mesh guys belong to different factions. Ahab looks much more like a classic "Yautja". The other guys have a different aesthetic, more "Super" but not exactly. I'm guessing two unaffiliated clans, not necessarily rivals
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 13, 2014, 07:04:22 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 13, 2014, 07:04:22 AM
Quote from: SM on Aug 13, 2014, 12:34:15 AMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 12, 2014, 08:06:27 PMQuote from: Master on Aug 12, 2014, 12:59:58 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 12, 2014, 10:59:15 AM
I'm liking the looks of some of this art. And I'm pretty excited to see how everything is shaken up in the post Prometheus/Predators world. I can't wait to see the Super Predators rip Classic into pieces.
U trollin dude?
I am. Because I hate people calling them Super Predators. They're not. The Super Predators never made it onto the screen.
Neither did a "runner" but we got over it. ;D
The runner nickname doesn't come with negative connotations though. But I obviously understand - just don't like it. And I'll move on.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: SM on Aug 13, 2014, 07:06:59 AM
Post by: SM on Aug 13, 2014, 07:06:59 AM
Good lad.
Title: Re: More \"Fire and Stone\" Previews
Post by: Ultramorph on Aug 13, 2014, 06:33:50 PM
Post by: Ultramorph on Aug 13, 2014, 06:33:50 PM
You can get the SDCC Fire and Stone sampler for free on Dark Horse Digital.
https://digital.darkhorse.com/profile/4973.prometheusaliensavppredator-fire-stone-sampler/ (https://digital.darkhorse.com/profile/4973.prometheusaliensavppredator-fire-stone-sampler/)
It's nothing we haven't seen, but the Aliens and Predator pages are colored and lettered. The Aliens sample includes spoilers about the timestamp, so don't read it if you don't want that aspect ruined.
Also, the sampler has confirmation that the character in Aliens is in fact NOT Amanda Ripley. I'm more relieved than I am embarrassed by the now-disproven speculation.
We have November solicitations!
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=54804 (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=54804)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.comicbookresources.com%2Fimgsrv%2Fimglib%2F0%2F0%2F1%2FAvPFireAndStone-2-28b81.jpg&hash=4e67801521b47b9849fb0751b3f8285e9b46c8df)
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https://digital.darkhorse.com/profile/4973.prometheusaliensavppredator-fire-stone-sampler/ (https://digital.darkhorse.com/profile/4973.prometheusaliensavppredator-fire-stone-sampler/)
It's nothing we haven't seen, but the Aliens and Predator pages are colored and lettered. The Aliens sample includes spoilers about the timestamp, so don't read it if you don't want that aspect ruined.
Also, the sampler has confirmation that the character in Aliens is in fact NOT Amanda Ripley. I'm more relieved than I am embarrassed by the now-disproven speculation.
We have November solicitations!
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=54804 (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=54804)
QuoteAliens: Fire and Stone #3 (of 4)
Chris Roberson (W), Patric Reynolds (A), Dave Stewart (C), and David Palumbo (Cover)
On sale Nov 26
FC, 32 pages
$3.50
Miniseries
With their numbers dwindling and hopes for rescue fading, the desperate survivors on the strange planet known as LV-223 fight among themselves. A lone scientist may hold the key to their freedom, though—if everyone can live long enough to hear him out! Ties in with the Prometheus and Aliens films!
• From critically acclaimed writer Chris Roberson!
• An exciting new direction for Aliens!
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QuoteAvP BATTLE ROYALE!
Alien vs. Predator: Fire and Stone #2 (of 4)
Christopher Sebela (W), Ariel Olivetti (A), and E. M. Gist (Cover)
On sale Nov 5
FC, 32 pages
$3.50
Miniseries
A terminally ill scientist's desperate experiment yields deadly results, and offers the Predators a chance to hunt an invincible new game!
• Written by Christopher Sebela (Dead Letters, High Crimes, Ghost)!
• Art by Ariel Olivetti (One-Hit Wonder, Conan and the People of the Black Circle)!
QuoteTHE GOOD, THE BAD, AND THE UGLY MOTHER%*@$#!
Predator: Fire and Stone #2 (of 4)
Joshua Williamson (W), Chris Mooneyham (A), Dan Brown (C), and Lucas Graciano (Cover)
On sale Nov 19
FC, 32 pages
$3.50
Miniseries
After the mayhem and terror of Weyland-Yutani's disastrous mission to the site of the Prometheus, Galgo's troubles continue when his ship is shanghaied by a Predator stowaway! Its obsession with a mysterious, deadly quarry sends them to the last place in the universe Galgo'd like to revisit—the Xeno-infested LV-223!
• Dark Horse's Prometheus event goes on the prowl!
• Joshua Williamson (Nailbiter, Captain Midnight) is Multiversity's breakout writer of 2013!
• Five Ghosts's Chris Mooneyham pits Predator against vicious game!
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QuoteTHE SEARCH FOR TRUTH BRINGS ONLY DAMNATION!
Prometheus: Fire and Stone #3 (of 4)
Paul Tobin (W), Juan Ferreyra (A), and David Palumbo (Cover)
On sale Nov 12
FC, 32 pages
$3.50
Miniseries
Chaos breaks loose when a member of the Prometheus's recovery team is exposed to the dangerous and mysterious genetic accelerant! Now, with the crew divided and hope for survival fleeting, a terrifying discovery offers a glimpse into the fate of the Prometheus . . . and the colony on LV-426!
• The blockbuster crossover event heats up!
• From Eisner Award-winning writer Paul Tobin (Colder)!
• Art by Bleeding Cool's Artist of the Year, Juan Ferreyra (Colder, Kiss Me Satan!)!
Title: Re: More \"Fire and Stone\" Previews
Post by: happypred on Aug 14, 2014, 01:51:23 AM
Post by: happypred on Aug 14, 2014, 01:51:23 AM
Quote from: Ultramorph on Aug 13, 2014, 06:33:50 PM
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Great cover art
The interior art revealed so far looks solid but not stunning. Still, it's much better than TWW's cartoonish mess
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 14, 2014, 07:24:02 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 14, 2014, 07:24:02 AM
The Alien looks a little too AvPR for me. But otherwise, still looking forward to this.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: SM on Aug 14, 2014, 07:27:50 AM
Post by: SM on Aug 14, 2014, 07:27:50 AM
QuoteThe Alien looks a little too AvPR for me.
'ken oath...
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 14, 2014, 07:35:39 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 14, 2014, 07:35:39 AM
Had to look that one up.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Ultramorph on Aug 14, 2014, 08:29:09 PM
Post by: Ultramorph on Aug 14, 2014, 08:29:09 PM
Dark Horse shared a preview of the Predator #3 cover on Facebook today.
(https://fbcdn-photos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-0/10383026_10152644912004791_7178816557563907976_n.jpg)
I think it looks pretty cool. Ahab certainly looks awesome, as usual.
(https://fbcdn-photos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-0/10383026_10152644912004791_7178816557563907976_n.jpg)
I think it looks pretty cool. Ahab certainly looks awesome, as usual.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: RakaiThwei on Aug 15, 2014, 08:25:28 AM
Post by: RakaiThwei on Aug 15, 2014, 08:25:28 AM
For anyone who wants the release dates.. Beat you on this one, so this ends your hawking streak, Ultramorph! :laugh:
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Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Ultramorph on Aug 15, 2014, 09:11:48 PM
Post by: Ultramorph on Aug 15, 2014, 09:11:48 PM
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Aug 15, 2014, 08:25:28 AM
For anyone who wants the release dates.. Beat you on this one, so this ends your hawking streak, Ultramorph! :laugh:
Ha, beat me to it! :D
The worst part is that my local comic shop closed back in January, forcing me to rely on TFAW, which means paying shipping. I look at that release schedule and am pretty exited, but my wallet is in tears. :laugh:
On another note, it just struck me what was familiar about the Predator #3 cover preview: the art on Ahab is very reminiscent of the old covers for Bad Blood. I wonder if maybe it's the same artist.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: 85 on Aug 16, 2014, 04:00:20 AM
Post by: 85 on Aug 16, 2014, 04:00:20 AM
Quote from: Ultramorph on Aug 15, 2014, 09:11:48 PMQuote from: RakaiThwei on Aug 15, 2014, 08:25:28 AM
For anyone who wants the release dates.. Beat you on this one, so this ends your hawking streak, Ultramorph! :laugh:
Ha, beat me to it! :D
The worst part is that my local comic shop closed back in January, forcing me to rely on TFAW, which means paying shipping. I look at that release schedule and am pretty exited, but my wallet is in tears. :laugh:
On another note, it just struck me what was familiar about the Predator #3 cover preview: the art on Ahab is very reminiscent of the old covers for Bad Blood. I wonder if maybe it's the same artist.
Same here. I'm thinking I might hold out for shipping once a month or just getting them digital then buying the trades if I like them.
And was Prometheus: omega confirmed before?
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Master on Aug 16, 2014, 06:56:03 AM
Post by: Master on Aug 16, 2014, 06:56:03 AM
Yeah, omega book was announced before as conclusion for whole story.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Ultramorph on Aug 16, 2014, 06:46:11 PM
Post by: Ultramorph on Aug 16, 2014, 06:46:11 PM
Quote from: Master on Aug 16, 2014, 06:56:03 AM
Yeah, omega book was announced before as conclusion for whole story.
According to the SDCC Palumbo poster, Omega will be illustrated by Agustin Alessio.
On another note, Chris Roberson did an interview with Unleash the Fanboy (http://www.unleashthefanboy.com/news/exclusive-chris-roberson-talks-aliens-fire-stone/113821#!bEDLCA (http://www.unleashthefanboy.com/news/exclusive-chris-roberson-talks-aliens-fire-stone/113821#!bEDLCA)), and while he didn't say much new, he did comment a bit on the setting of the Aliens series.
Spoiler
QuoteChris Roberson: There's no familiar characters as such, but it's familiar locations. Aliens actually takes place before the other books and about halfway through the second film. It follows a group of Hadley's Hope colonists, who managed to get just far enough away to not be cocooned by the Xenomorphs. But they didn't get far enough. So basically it's about what happens to them. That puts in motion all the stuff that the other titles deal with.
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He also made some...interesting comments about an aspect that was cut from the final scripts. The is the "bad idea" he mentioned he was trying to get into the books at ECCC.
QuoteChris Roberson: Man, I tried really hard to get this one thing and I probably shouldn't say. Well, I can. I'll say this much: I really, really, really wanted to get a moment in where somebody sat on a Facehugger, because I was like, "What would happen there?" Because even though they call it a Facehugger, it probably doesn't really matter. It just needs access to the inside of your body.
UTF: True.
Chris Roberson: That became an entire evening's worth of conversation around the writers' table about what a Butthugger would do. It almost got on the page. It was in two drafts of the script and then we just had to cut it for real estate purposes. Maybe next time.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: RakaiThwei on Aug 16, 2014, 07:05:51 PM
Post by: RakaiThwei on Aug 16, 2014, 07:05:51 PM
Interestingly enough, Cracked or MAD Magazine did a parody of Alien Resurrection where a Butthugger was featured.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: TheBATMAN on Aug 17, 2014, 10:02:11 AM
Post by: TheBATMAN on Aug 17, 2014, 10:02:11 AM
Hang on, how does Aliens take place before Prometheus? I thought this series kicked off with a team heading to LV-223 to look for the original crew?
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Xenomrph on Aug 17, 2014, 01:34:44 PM
Post by: Xenomrph on Aug 17, 2014, 01:34:44 PM
I think they said it happens first out of the comic book titles, not that it happens before the movie 'Prometheus'.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: TheBATMAN on Aug 17, 2014, 06:35:53 PM
Post by: TheBATMAN on Aug 17, 2014, 06:35:53 PM
Yeah but I mean the comic book prometheus. Surely that must come first. Then AVP/predator stories jump off after LV223 mission. hadley's hope is about 90 years later.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Ultramorph on Aug 17, 2014, 06:47:02 PM
Post by: Ultramorph on Aug 17, 2014, 06:47:02 PM
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Aug 17, 2014, 06:35:53 PM
Yeah but I mean the comic book prometheus. Surely that must come first. Then AVP/predator stories jump off after LV223 mission. hadley's hope is about 90 years later.
It seems that they're going with the notion that there wasn't an immediate rescue mission in the 2090s, perhaps because Weyland did such a good job keeping the whole Prometheus expedition shrowded in secrecy. It seems that W-Y sends an expedition back to LV-223 only after refugees from Hadley's Hope wind up there. My guess is that Derrick Russel has a "last survivor" type transmission where he mentions coming across an 80-year-old scientific vessel, the Prometheus, and that this is what prompts The Company to go looking. So yeah, the Prometheus series, along with all the others, will be set in or post 2179.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Xenomrph on Aug 18, 2014, 03:18:05 AM
Post by: Xenomrph on Aug 18, 2014, 03:18:05 AM
I'd be a little curious about what "scientific vessel" he comes across since the Prometheus rammed the Juggernaut and exploded. :P
More likely, perhaps he finds the lifeboat and activates a distress beacon in it.
More likely, perhaps he finds the lifeboat and activates a distress beacon in it.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: TheBATMAN on Aug 18, 2014, 06:30:31 AM
Post by: TheBATMAN on Aug 18, 2014, 06:30:31 AM
Hmm I'm not sure about that. If the company's founder and flagship vessel went missing I certainly wouldn't be waiting 80 years to launch a rescue mission. Plus they are all wearing suits of that era and why would there be posters of David 8 around if he was an old model from nearly a century ago?
Title: Re: More \"Fire and Stone\" Previews
Post by: Ultramorph on Aug 18, 2014, 04:36:58 PM
Post by: Ultramorph on Aug 18, 2014, 04:36:58 PM
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Aug 18, 2014, 06:30:31 AM
Hmm I'm not sure about that. If the company's founder and flagship vessel went missing I certainly wouldn't be waiting 80 years to launch a rescue mission. Plus they are all wearing suits of that era and why would there be posters of David 8 around if he was an old model from nearly a century ago?
I wondered that myself. At least we only have about a month before the first issue comes out. ;D
Dark Horse has released a teaser trailer for Fire and Stone over at io9. Nothing too much new, but interesting nonetheless.
http://io9.com/meet-the-star-of-the-prometheus-sequel-comic-1623218990 (http://io9.com/meet-the-star-of-the-prometheus-sequel-comic-1623218990)
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Blacklabel on Aug 18, 2014, 06:56:34 PM
Post by: Blacklabel on Aug 18, 2014, 06:56:34 PM
Kelly Sue DeConnick is involved?
Well, now i actually give a f**k about these comics!
Well, now i actually give a f**k about these comics!
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: Ultramorph on Aug 18, 2014, 07:18:41 PM
Post by: Ultramorph on Aug 18, 2014, 07:18:41 PM
Quote from: Blacklabel on Aug 18, 2014, 06:56:34 PM
Kelly Sue DeConnick is involved?
Well, now i actually give a f**k about these comics!
She's writing the double-sized wrap-up Prometheus: Omega issue. She was also one of the editors on all the books.
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: 85 on Aug 20, 2014, 05:05:24 PM
Post by: 85 on Aug 20, 2014, 05:05:24 PM
http://youtu.be/eR0G92jlqyU (http://youtu.be/eR0G92jlqyU)
Title: Re: More "Fire and Stone" Previews
Post by: happypred on Aug 21, 2014, 05:08:29 PM
Post by: happypred on Aug 21, 2014, 05:08:29 PM
Quote from: Ultramorph on Aug 15, 2014, 09:11:48 PMthe art on Ahab is very reminiscent of the old covers for Bad Blood. I wonder if maybe it's the same artist.
The large mandibles and the spikes on his knuckles
Bad Blood had good covers and decent interior art. Some scenes were a bit too chaotic for my taste