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Author Topic: Neill Blomkamp's Alien never reached film  (Read 10203 times)


SiL
Apr 30, 2020, 01:28:09 AM
Reply #46 on: Apr 30, 2020, 01:28:09 AM
Not when you factor in inflation.
If you factor in inflation it took until Prometheus for a movie to earn more than Alien even with increasing budgets (again, adjusted for inflation). It's been diminishing returns almost all the way down.

But all of this is truly besides the point of what the post was about in the first place. I get it. AvP maybe didn't earn as much if you factor in a bunch of shit. Whatever. The point was that it was still a financial successful and didn't have Marines. Can we move the f**k on already?


The Eighth Passenger
Apr 30, 2020, 03:24:12 PM
Reply #47 on: Apr 30, 2020, 03:24:12 PM
Oh, nobody's denying that AvP didn't make money (Marines or no), we were just pointing out that it certainly wasn't "the most successful Alien or Predator film on release".

I suspect you were just trying to fudge the numbers so you can get to make that new AvP flick. Yeah, don't you deny it!  :P




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OpenMaw
Apr 30, 2020, 07:39:03 PM
Reply #48 on: Apr 30, 2020, 07:39:03 PM
If you factor in inflation it took until Prometheus for a movie to earn more than Alien even with increasing budgets (again, adjusted for inflation). It's been diminishing returns almost all the way down.

But all of this is truly besides the point of what the post was about in the first place. I get it. AvP maybe didn't earn as much if you factor in a bunch of shit. Whatever. The point was that it was still a financial successful and didn't have Marines. Can we move the f**k on already?


When you factor in a bunch of the important details it wasn't that successful, that's my point. I certainly wasn't trying to atagonise, you Sil. I'm just saying, If we're going to measure a films financial success as the ultimate success, you have to factor in inflation, the time of release, the state of the economy, and what the competition was.  AvP's lack of success is why AvP:R was a borderline direct-to-dvd release and skirted by teetering on that edge of absolute schlock.

I am both disagreeing and agreeing. Absolutely true, the marines are not a marker for success. AvP wasn't the marine-absent success to hold up as proof of that, though. The real truth is, we haven't had that success yet.

One last thing on financial success in this series. The only reason Prometheus strikes so high is "Director Ridley Scott returns to Alien franchise" being all over the place. HUGE, TOWERING, UNBELIEVABLE hype. Everybody was going to see that movie.

I don't think success is objectively measured in financial gain, though. If we're talking engaging, enduring, fun, exciting, intelligent stories... Then, yeah, the last time we had a truly great, well-crafted film in this series with a coherent plot, relatable characters, and a solid beginning, middle and, end. It was the one with the marines.

Alien 3 is a beautifully shot mess. Resurrection is a joke. AVP and AVP:R are boring and trashy. Prometheus, meanders beautifully. Alien Covenant is what Alien could have been if directed by someone other than Ridley Scott, ironically enough.

The only way for us to know if Neill Blomkamp would have been a genuine success is to actually see what he wrote. Who knows, if he was inspired and passionate enough about the project he might have had a brilliant pitch that would have revitalized the whole franchise and been the next great movie in the franchise after Aliens...

...I wouldn't bet on that one, though.


Nightmare Asylum
Apr 30, 2020, 08:24:28 PM
Reply #49 on: Apr 30, 2020, 08:24:28 PM
I still remain more curious about what Blomkamp's pre-Ripley pitch was, before his conversion with Sigourney on the set of Chappie.

And even more than that, I am curious about what Blomkamp/Ed Neumeier's Robocop Returns would have been, as that franchise feels like something much more suited to Blomkamp's style.


irn
May 01, 2020, 11:50:32 AM
Reply #50 on: May 01, 2020, 11:50:32 AM
I am curious about what Blomkamp/Ed Neumeier's Robocop Returns would have been, as that franchise feels like something much more suited to Blomkamp's style.

Defintely. It's a shame that he left the project. Blomkamp entering the Alien series raised some concerns but Robocop is something that could really benefit from him.


 

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