Interesting quote here:
"It will go Prometheus, Awakening, Covenant.. fairly integral where this colonization ship is on the way....
And...
Alien: Awakening is supposedly the title of the next film in the Prometheus series, taking place between Prometheus and Alien: Covenant. Will this film truly explain what happens to Shaw? Will we see David and Shaw having taken a trip to other distant worlds before landing on Paradise?
http://www.alien-covenant.com/news/ridley-scott-reveals-title-the-next-alien-film-after-alien-covenant#.XuBKuwb2i1w.twitter
This is three years old from before Covenant was released.
What would be interesting to know is when did Shaw die? Before arriving at planet 4 or after?
Ewwwww. Scified. Here's a proper website: https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2017/03/17/alien-awakening-title-next-alien-film/
But yeah, it confused me back then. I still don't know fully what he meant.
I think Ridley might have had one too many glasses of red wine when talking about this :laugh: :laugh:
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 10, 2020, 09:07:46 AM
Here's a proper website:
Eh, I don't know, those guys can be a bit dodgy as well. Had an article back when, that Alien Covenant was going to be shot in Rome. :P
We'll be extremely lucky if we get a singular sequel to Covenant, if anything. A movie happening between Prometheus and Covenant had been planned, but that was before Covenant was released and before it failed in the box office and triggered angry fanboiz in teh interwebz.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jun 10, 2020, 05:00:36 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 10, 2020, 09:07:46 AM
Here's a proper website:
Eh, I don't know, those guys can be a bit dodgy as well. Had an article back when, that Alien Covenant was going to be shot in Rome. :P
Self-promoting, man, self-promoting
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Jun 11, 2020, 04:21:16 PM
We'll be extremely lucky if we get a singular sequel to Covenant, if anything. A movie happening between Prometheus and Covenant had been planned, but that was before Covenant was released and before it failed in the box office and triggered angry fanboiz in teh interwebz.
I don't think that film was actually real, just a slip of the tongue by Ridley. Must have meant the sequel to Covenant.
Man is over 80 now, give him a break
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Jun 11, 2020, 04:21:16 PM
angry fanboiz in teh interwebz.
:D
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jun 10, 2020, 05:00:36 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 10, 2020, 09:07:46 AM
Here's a proper website:
Eh, I don't know, those guys can be a bit dodgy as well. Had an article back when, that Alien Covenant was going to be shot in Rome. :P
Link me? I looked in the archives but didn't see anything.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 12, 2020, 06:51:33 AM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jun 10, 2020, 05:00:36 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 10, 2020, 09:07:46 AM
Here's a proper website:
Eh, I don't know, those guys can be a bit dodgy as well. Had an article back when, that Alien Covenant was going to be shot in Rome. :P
Link me? I looked in the archives but didn't see anything.
Yes, because you deleted it! :laugh:
But it was kinda my fault really. I found a tweet by a reputable lookin' extras casting agency who said that Alien: Paradise Lost (Alien: Covenant) would start filming in Rome in January 2016. You posted it as news, but on further investigating it, I discovered that there was a bookstore called Paradise Lost in Rome, GA, USA. So obviously some hilarious mix-up and the news headline surreptitiously disappeared soon afterwards.
Full story here:
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=53372.msg2081630#msg2081630 (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=53372.msg2081630#msg2081630)
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/4080ff3fa47ee540d06ff101fe474784/tumblr_oup9r4hHAv1vbu87ko6_250.gifv)
And check out this guy's comment:
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=53372.msg2081647#msg2081647 (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=53372.msg2081647#msg2081647)
Coincidence or were the production team/writers following our speculation (as was the case with Prometheus according to CdL) and decided to include a nod to this little snafu? :laugh:
What a story
i've driven through rome, georgia; i can assure you that milford sound has nothing to worry about :P
Quote from: Mala'kak on Jun 10, 2020, 07:41:47 AM
Interesting quote here:
"It will go Prometheus, Awakening, Covenant.. fairly integral where this colonization ship is on the way....
And...
Alien: Awakening is supposedly the title of the next film in the Prometheus series, taking place between Prometheus and Alien: Covenant. Will this film truly explain what happens to Shaw? Will we see David and Shaw having taken a trip to other distant worlds before landing on Paradise?
http://www.alien-covenant.com/news/ridley-scott-reveals-title-the-next-alien-film-after-alien-covenant#.XuBKuwb2i1w.twitter
Interesting to read Scott's ideas for future films before the Fox/Disney merger which might've included several things; the Shaw/David relationship on the way to Paradise, other monsters from the black goo, maybe some information about the Engineers and more about colony ships.
But, the possibility of expanding this prequel timeline is over for at least several years. And once the franchise is revived in the more distant future, there probably will be nothing more about David's story.
- The Alien franchise is what is in the movies which exist now.
- David's story has ended and the derelict begins independent of that with "Alien".
- Many of the original theories about the derelict now remain intact. It was piloted by an Engineer/space jockey and the cargo of Xenomorphs got out of control.
* Still, I can take away some positives with the ending of the prequel films.
First, Scott had speculated about the Space Jockeys over the years starting with the first DVD commentary for "Alien".
- He said that the Juggernauts/Derelict were warships; bombers in space. How that worked was shown by David in "Covenant".
- Ridley stated that the Xenomorphs (and creatures like them) were weapons of the Engineers. All the creatures which came from the black goo would be tools of the Engineers to take over a planet.
Another engineer/Humanoid creation, the Deacon, looks like a formidable creature which could be unleashed on pockets of resistance (same with the Xenomorph). A full-grown Deacon should be the size of a Xenomorph queen. The ending of AVP shows how deadly a monster of that size could be.
- Piecing together things from the existing franchise, Ridley's idea that the Engineers could be the creators and the destroyers of life on worlds is now pretty well established.
Second, Scott expanded on the role of the Weyland company in getting to the solar system where LV–426 was located (since LV-223 orbits the same planet) before "Alien". This goes back to the groundwork in the script for "Alien" done by producers Giler and Hill which are spelled out in the novelization for that film.
** Bottom line; while Scott wasn't able to make all the films in the franchise that he wanted, he did get the main pieces of his past vision for the Alien universe on screen.
;)
Quote from: bb-15 on Jul 20, 2020, 07:18:14 AM
First, Scott had speculated about the Space Jockeys over the years starting with the first DVD commentary for "Alien".
- He said that the Juggernauts/Derelict were warships; bombers in space. How that worked was shown by David in "Covenant".
I was pleasantly surprised that this was implemented in the Covenant. But can you imagine the same with the
original idea, without breaking your mind? Bombing ovomorphs instead of ampoules. The eggs descend to the planet's surface in ordered rows, like a DNA double helix? Or even without a gravitational elevator, they fall onto the planet's surface from a height of several hundred meters. ;D Will they shatter on impact or bounce off like a rubber ball?
Quote from: Drukathi on Jul 23, 2020, 01:22:34 PM
Quote from: bb-15 on Jul 20, 2020, 07:18:14 AM
First, Scott had speculated about the Space Jockeys over the years starting with the first DVD commentary for "Alien".
- He said that the Juggernauts/Derelict were warships; bombers in space. How that worked was shown by David in "Covenant".
I was pleasantly surprised that this was implemented in the Covenant. But can you imagine the same with the original idea, without breaking your mind? Bombing ovomorphs instead of ampoules. The eggs descend to the planet's surface in ordered rows, like a DNA double helix? Or even without a gravitational elevator, they fall onto the planet's surface from a height of several hundred meters. ;D Will they shatter on impact or bounce off like a rubber ball?
Thanks for that. Until your comment I had never specifically imagined how the Space Jockeys would literally bomb a planet using some stage of the Xenomorph lifecycle. Bouncing eggs/ovomorps could look comical (something like this in our world was seen with a couple of bouncing Mars landers).
It's these concepts at the early storyboard stage when a filmmaker has to decide what makes the most sense on screen; visually and financially.
Over the years, as a bomber payload, the idea of the black goo works better as a weapon of mass destruction as well as being less expensive to film.
Honestly, years ago when I learned of Ridley's original bomber idea, I didn't think he thought that Xenomorphs were being thrown onto a planet from space but instead I thought that the Space Jockeys would land, open the hatch and then turn the Xenomorphs loose.
Thanks again for a fun post. ;)
Alien: Awakening doesn't exist, so it isn't before, between or after anything.
Good point
Yeah, at least with stuff like the wooden planet you have a script or something. This is just an ethereal dream.
(https://i.ibb.co/7jRy5w3/Agitated-Revolving-Honeyeater-size-restricted.gif)
Nah, I'd say third prequel has higher chances being made than Alien movie about about wooden planet filled with monks
Interview with creature designer/concept artist Carlos Huante by Whos Nick. Haven't had the time to listen to the entire interview yet (over an hour) but apparently Carlos touches on Alien: Awakening as well as Prometheus and Alien: Covenant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQXpieUhrTQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQXpieUhrTQ)
Thanks for the link, I'll be listening to this soon!
Might have missed some, but basically he heard from Arthur Max they're still working on the script but it's not a priority for Ridley because he's so busy. I hope that's still the case, at least it hasn't been cancelled by disney if so.
Quote from: Evanus on Sep 24, 2020, 10:07:59 PM
Might have missed some, but basically he heard from Arthur Max they're still working on the script but it's not a priority for Ridley because he's so busy. I hope that's still the case, at least it hasn't been cancelled by disney if so.
Working on a script means a movie is in what's called 'turn around'. A film can be in 'turn around' for many years.
- Anyway, the fate of the franchise is all up to Disney.
;)