Alien TV Series From Noah Hawley and Ridley Scott CONFIRMED

[Kimarhi]

I still maintain that Earth should be in danger at some point in the series.



That or a major colony takeover.

The Aliens have one W in the series.  ONE.  And that is Hadley's Hope.

How much of a threat are they really if unarmed civilians can keep blowing them out of an airlock?

Either make them a threat again, or just stop making movies/series where we pretend they are a threat.

I mean, their body count is pretty much in the high 90& by now. Most everybody we've seen run into them has died. The only time they really lost their luster was in AVPR and Covenant.

I can reverse that and say that everytime the Aliens run into a human they get offed pretty quickly themselves. 

[Local Trouble]

SM usually says that "perfect organisms" aren't susceptible to machine guns.

[kwisatz]

They obviously turned decadent society after taking Hadley's Hope effortlessly.

Stealth egg tactics is just the last stage of decline.

[Necronomicon II]

All I know is, nothing with an Engineer's facial anatomy (i.e. Human) would be able to see much out of that f**kin' helmet. 

Good point actually

Probably see better than this ridiculous helmet 🤣

[SpreadEagleBeagle]

Covenant left me pretty much done with the series. I love the original three films. Covenant did things to the series that I simply cannot abide.

Earth and Near Future are inherent shackles. The big appeal in the original films is the exotic locations and hostile environemnts. Space stations, colonies, starships. Industrial, utilitarian.

We don't need to see aliens running around suburbia. It looks awful, and i'm really hoping this isn't going to be some kind of a detective drama or something with an Alien.

The only way to make the Earth setting actually work is if it's A. only where we are starting from, or B. the events are incredibly isolated. Otherwise you just trample all over Alien and Aliens. Which, if you're going to drop those names constantly, you better not do that.

I've said it many times in the past, but Alien Isolation serves as a great template to where you could take the series. Not specifically Amanda, but tonally and creatively. Outland with an Alien. A space station, deep space, between Alien and Aliens or even Aliens and Alien 3. Develop some good characters, make it a mystery series, and then have a great shift in tone at some point which has the Alien come into the forefront.

I'm not really excited. Until I see a deeper synopsis, a story breakdown, or even just some actual content, I'm not going to get excited. "ALIEN" just doesn't juice me up like it used to.

Oui! All of this!

[Necronomicon II]

Yes the original Jockey is so inhuman that it had 5 digits on each arm, err, like a human 🤣. All mystery is preserved with the black pathogen. David just decided to throw some peenies and vagins in the black soup. 😁🥰 Facehugger: two human hands, peeny and vagin; recognises human immune systems, proteins, etc. Snuggly. 🥰😘

Luke Scott: No one asked one very big simple question, and I was amazed at that because it was an evolution where you could certainly go into the next story by saying "What was the black liquid in the urn, which was the popular plot device that got the name, The Black Goo", I don't know where that came from but, it did, and er, there was this dark gazpacho contained within those ancient-looking urns, what was that? why was it there? wha.. and I always figured what my father had was a battle.... I used to call it "whatever fuking plot you want" soup.

Until the pathogen can manifest toasters or muffins with blue berries it has a pretty consistent modus operandi.


P.S. I feel like muffins now 🤣

[Nightmare Asylum]

Sorry, best I can do for ya is some mushrooms.

[Necronomicon II]

Lush fungi from yuggoth.

Here's what I think the original Jockey ought to be beneath...



We can surmise that some engineers went further than others in their self-experimentations; others more biomech, gigantic and one with their crafts, humanoid but increasingly more alien the more they combined the aesthetics from the results of the pathogen.

[Nightmare Asylum]

We can surmise that some engineers went further than others in their self-experimentations; others more biomech, gigantic and one with their crafts, humanoid but increasingly more alien the more they combined the aesthetics from the results of the pathogen.

That's another idea I was always kind of partial to, and that's where my mind pretty much went immediately after Prometheus released (before Covenant opened up a whole different can of worms regarding David and the Alien). There are probably some aeons old posts of mine talking about similar concepts...

Honestly, I'm pretty open and varied on interpretations of the Space Jockey/Engineers. There are a lot of radically different directions that one can go with it (them?) if they so chose.

[Perfect-Organism]

All I know is, nothing with an Engineer's facial anatomy (i.e. Human) would be able to see much out of that f**kin' helmet. 

Good point actually

Probably see better than this ridiculous helmet 🤣

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQt8V51Zluwv1JcaNNO0SJ5UfUUjv8uDxg2vQ&usqp=CAU

If those eye slits were horizontal, this helmet would actually be great for seeing in all-snow conditions like the Arctic.

[Master]

All I know is, nothing with an Engineer's facial anatomy (i.e. Human) would be able to see much out of that f**kin' helmet. 

Good point actually

Probably see better than this ridiculous helmet 🤣

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQt8V51Zluwv1JcaNNO0SJ5UfUUjv8uDxg2vQ&usqp=CAU

This is tournament helmet. It was designed specifically not to allow shrapnel from broken lance to get into ones eyes.


About the new series, I'm not happy with earth setting. For now at least, as it all depends on execution. As we discussed through  the years possible Alien sequels/ spinoffs with new cast, I always thought the best hooking point and place to start is revisiting Lv-426. It should be set between Alien 3 and Resurrection with W-Y revisiting Derelict. It would explain why they had to clone Ripley to get the Alien and fall of W-Y. This or post Resurrection setting. Any other way to acquire Alien seems to convenient* for my taste.








*There's always a frozen Queen next to Bovotoya

[Necronomicon II]

Surely there are better designs than that. 🤣 Don't take it too seriously, all in good fun. Mind you the Jockey helmet most likely has holographic tech inside.

[Kimarhi]

Where the engineers are going, they won't need eyes to see.







*engineers tossed in the reboot bin*

[Corporal Hicks]

I really don't know why Scott has such a hard-on for explaining the engineers and telling us where the Alien came from, because for me, they were the two questions I didn't want answered.

There's me in the background having wanted to see the Space Jockeys explored. It's just this particular explanation wasn't the one I was after. lol

That or a major colony takeover.

That's where I'd really love to see something Alien head. We can't really do a big takeover of Earth, but to see a major colony fall to the Aliens would be genuinely interesting. Something like the Alien equivalent of Reach in Halo, but maybe with less agriculture.

That actually brings to light my one real problem with Covenant's third act: the second Alien. I think the third act would have been much more effective with a single Alien, rather than two.

Also agreed. As much as I prefer Spaihts' take on Prometheus, and genuinely loved Covenant, the treatment of the Alien in both wasn't great. In both they're barely a threat, and throwing away one so quickly in Covenant was undermining to me, especially with how much hassle the Neomorphs had given them to that point. I still think the Alien with a capital A shouldn't have been in the film at all. Should have all been Neomorph.

[Necronomicon II]

Yeah I quite like the praetomorph but would have been perfectly fine had it been just a waxed figure in the lab, a portent of what's to come, the neos are genuinely fantastic additions to the family tree.