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The upcoming Alien series by FX is planning to begin production sometime next year. The series has had a lengthy development, with effects studio Weta signed on to handle the Alien effects, which we exclusively revealed earlier this year. 

During development there’s always a slew of concept art created for shows and films of this nature to help flesh out the world created in the script. We’re highly anticipating the first foray of Alien into a series, but it may be a little while yet before we see anything. So we thought we’d give you an early sneak peak!

Potential Spoilers

Following our Weta involvement reveal and writers room details, AvP Galaxy is able to bring you our biggest Alien series exclusive yet: the first concept art from the series!

These three pieces of concept art depict planned scenes which all take place during the earlier part of the season. They allude to significant plot elements so if you’d like to go in completely fresh, you’ve been warned. Enjoy

The concept art shows a Weyland-Yutani spaceship, the USCSS Maginot, crashed right in the middle of a city, cutting into the underground levels. The city is controlled by the Prodigy Corporation, a rival to Weyland-Yutani. The next piece depicts two soldiers within an industrial looking room. They’re approaching Xenomorph eggs in containers hiding within a cover of mist. Finally, we can see an adult Xenomorph snatching someone in a vertical shaft.

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Those seem to look like Aliens, in this Alien series!

It's happening y'all!

Can't wait for this to come out with everything ELSE some of us have seen. 🤫👀🤐

Weyland-Yutani aren't going to be happy one of their ships crash-landed in a city controlled by a rival corporation. Corporate intrigue and shenanigans ahoy!

The character getting snatched by the alien has robotic limbs and his left arm is some kind of whip weapon? Also it seems like they intented to fight it? God this concept art drop is like Christmas.

This looks like an over kill them park ride,

Shame the studios are completely brainless when it comes to the tone that made the movie work in the first place.

Aliens on earth before the first Alien.... F%&K OFF


 

Quote from: Gimitko on Sep 01, 2022, 05:43:00 PMThe character getting snatched by the alien has robotic limbs and his left arm is some kind of whip weapon? Also it seems like they intented to fight it? God this concept art drop is like Christmas.

Yeah maybe it's a cyborg or some kind of combat synth? I didn't notice the robotic-looking arm (and possibly left leg too) until you pointed it out.

Looks fun and the art is good. Im excited as long as pathogen stuff isnt super heavy

Still not entirely sold on the Earth pre-Alien setting but, well, shit. I really like what I'm seeing here.

(https://i.gifer.com/Nm1s.gif)

These are awesome. Trying not to get my hopes too high, but I think Noah Hawley might "get" the Alien universe.

Spaceship crashed in the middle of a city ? Not sure how that will work but OK

When the man called Alien³ great, on top of him making Legion, from then on I had no doubt in this Series.

I know it's just concept art and I shouldn't read too much into the little details but... the version of the WY logo in the first piece doesn't exactly mesh with the reported pre-Alien timeframe.

I would love so much for it to be revealed that this is actually set post-Alien 3.

Great work guys, definitely got me excited for the series and see what the do with it.

Here's Hicks's and RidgeTop's commentary about the art. I don't think it's been linked:

Also, are the Alien eggs located beneath the city? Wondering if they are going with the "futuristic city built above/around an ancient evil" trope. The hole left by the crashed ship seems like a central point of that concept art. Or does the ship crash-land onto a heavily guarded and contained experimentation facility, unleashing whats being kept in there. Cant wait to find out more.

Looks like the classic Alien also for the first time in thirty years discounting Alien Isolation, no ice, no chaser, no shit.

Quote from: Gimitko on Sep 01, 2022, 06:45:56 PMAlso, are the Alien eggs located beneath the city? Wondering if they are going with the "futuristic city built above/around an ancient evil" trope. The hole left by the crashed ship seems like a central point of that concept art. Or does the ship crash-land onto a heavily guarded and contained experimentation facility, unleashing whats being kept in there. Cant wait to find out more.

Looks to me like the eggs were actually being transported by the USCSS Maginot. The cannisters they're stored in are stamped with the WY logo.

So fricking excited for this show! Nice job with the exclusive guys 👍

Will people still complain about it having no Aliens now? They still will? Oh well.

Oh, I didnt spot the WY logo, ur totally right. So it seems the crew of The Marginot successfully got alien eggs and crashed in Prodigy planet on their way back.

I really hope we see the beginnings of the colonial Marines in the show! 🇺🇲💪😎👍🇺🇲

Looks promising...I'm holding off on getting my hopes up until I see a trailer.

Oh, question! I know you guys won't confirm who the concept artist is at the moment. But out of curiosity, would you be able to confirm if this is the same art that was apparently shown at the event when this series was announced back in late 2020?

Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 01, 2022, 07:16:01 PMOh, question! I know you guys won't confirm who the concept artist is at the moment. But out of curiosity, would you be able to confirm if this is the same art that was apparently shown at the event when this series was announced back in late 2020?

Likely.

>Aliens are actually in the Alien show
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Coolio. Still don't like the idea of it being set on Earth prior to the prequels, but at least it would mean David isn't the sole creator of the creatures. The crashed ship concept looks very neat, I like that there are undercities built beneath, I love that stuff.

Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 01, 2022, 07:16:01 PMOh, question! I know you guys won't confirm who the concept artist is at the moment. But out of curiosity, would you be able to confirm if this is the same art that was apparently shown at the event when this series was announced back in late 2020?

Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Sep 01, 2022, 07:26:56 PM

Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 01, 2022, 07:16:01 PMOh, question! I know you guys won't confirm who the concept artist is at the moment. But out of curiosity, would you be able to confirm if this is the same art that was apparently shown at the event when this series was announced back in late 2020?

Likely.

Pretty sure it's not. Never heard about any concept art being shared during that event.

Quote from: RidgeTop on Sep 01, 2022, 07:57:21 PMPretty sure it's not. Never heard about any concept art being shared during that event.

Not sure if it was ever confirmed, but it does seem like they showed something at that event. After the Alien piece in the panel, the stream cut away to display something that was only for the investors to see.

There's a transition that's been added to bridge the gap where that happened on this YouTube upload, timestamped at 1:09:07.

https://youtu.be/CRdYiquh8Bg?t=4147

Of course, it could have been something else that was shown at the time.

Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 01, 2022, 08:04:37 PM

Quote from: RidgeTop on Sep 01, 2022, 07:57:21 PMPretty sure it's not. Never heard about any concept art being shared during that event.

Not sure if it was ever confirmed, but it does seem like they showed something at that event. After the Alien piece in the panel, the stream cut away to display something that was only for the investors to see.

There's a transition that's been added to bridge the gap where that happened on this YouTube upload, timestamped at 1:09:07.

https://youtu.be/CRdYiquh8Bg?t=4147

Of course, it could have been something else that was shown at the time.

As far as I'm aware the concept art we shared was produced in 2021.

Quote from: RidgeTop on Sep 01, 2022, 08:10:57 PMAs far as I'm aware the concept art we shared was produced in 2021.

Neat! Something that likely would have been done a ways into pre-production/development then, it seems.

Would love for that specific WY logo (and the point in the timeline that it implies) to actually be something reflective of the script confirmed by the art, and not just be an arbitrary placeholder logo for the art that'll be swapped out with Ridley's 1979/Covenant version to establish this show as being set pre-Alien in the final product.

I have to say though Adam, I do not think the books you mentioned put this idea in my head at all, but I already know what this might end up being.

The Platform. But with Aliens eating people at the bottom, up to the top.

"Let them eat Cake!"

Note* - Cake is the name of the first hobo on the lower levels to encounter an Alien

They're also leaning in on some Deus Ex cyberpunk prosthetics.

Not surprising with what Noah Hawley's been discussing.

"When the aliens shall have nothing more to eat, they will eat the rich."

Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Sep 01, 2022, 08:22:48 PMI have to say though Adam, I do not think the books you mentioned put this idea in my head at all, but I already know what this might end up being.

The Platform. But with Aliens eating people at the bottom, up to the top.

These books?

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Quote from: RidgeTop on Sep 01, 2022, 08:10:57 PM

Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 01, 2022, 08:04:37 PM

Quote from: RidgeTop on Sep 01, 2022, 07:57:21 PMPretty sure it's not. Never heard about any concept art being shared during that event.

Not sure if it was ever confirmed, but it does seem like they showed something at that event. After the Alien piece in the panel, the stream cut away to display something that was only for the investors to see.

There's a transition that's been added to bridge the gap where that happened on this YouTube upload, timestamped at 1:09:07.

https://youtu.be/CRdYiquh8Bg?t=4147

Of course, it could have been something else that was shown at the time.

As far as I'm aware the concept art we shared was produced in 2021.

I misread the original comment! Ridgetop knows the correct information, I am but a peasant with passive knowledge.

Spoiler

Quote from: RidgeTop on Sep 01, 2022, 09:26:18 PM

Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Sep 01, 2022, 08:22:48 PMI have to say though Adam, I do not think the books you mentioned put this idea in my head at all, but I already know what this might end up being.

The Platform. But with Aliens eating people at the bottom, up to the top.

These books?

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Aw damn, I hoped I could squeeze a bit more out of you to be honest.  ;D But I guess not.

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This show's going to look spectacular...

Cool.

But on a scale of 1 to 10

how f**king wild is the other spoilery concept art that you guys have seen?

Quote from: skhellter on Sep 01, 2022, 11:12:45 PMCool.

But on a scale of 1 to 10

how f**king wild is the other spoilery concept art that you guys have seen?

I know there's an 11 or 12, maybe higher of a spoiler that I've heard about through the grape vine. But we will have to see how it plays out.

Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Sep 01, 2022, 11:33:49 PM

Quote from: skhellter on Sep 01, 2022, 11:12:45 PMCool.

But on a scale of 1 to 10

how f**king wild is the other spoilery concept art that you guys have seen?

I know there's an 11 or 12, maybe higher of a spoiler that I've heard about through the grape vine. But we will have to see how it plays out.

DAVID CAMEO CONFIRMED

Quote from: skhellter on Sep 01, 2022, 11:38:01 PM

Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Sep 01, 2022, 11:33:49 PM

Quote from: skhellter on Sep 01, 2022, 11:12:45 PMCool.

But on a scale of 1 to 10

how f**king wild is the other spoilery concept art that you guys have seen?

I know there's an 11 or 12, maybe higher of a spoiler that I've heard about through the grape vine. But we will have to see how it plays out.

DAVID CAMEO CONFIRMED

That would actually be insane, but not it!!! Haha

PREDATOR CAMEO CONFIRMED

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now seriously.

I'm all for the crazy shit at this point.

Surprise me, Noah.

(https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/003/796/321/large/blake-lowry-spacejockey-fixed2.jpg?1477537683)

Hmm, what could it be lol. Hideo Yutani himself making an appearance? The show is shooting in Eastern Europe, maybe we get to see a futuristic Soviet Federation? Season 3 of Fargo which was also about progress and technology had tons of soviet iconography and themes in it. This shows got all that and its explicitly about class and a revolution too. It was mentioned Wendy will lead a revolution.

Very cool!

Also I glanced over the comments and people worried about the tone rest assured that many things change during production. I've watched enough making of movies to know that the result can be wildly different than the artwork (for the best in many cases).

Last but not least, many things will be said by people in the production before this show is ready to premiere and these things also have a short expiration date. I remember Robert Pattinson in interviews saying he wanted to change Batman's voice because he thought the usual deep forced voice was lame and people were losing their minds thinking he'd ruin the movie. After it premiered he said that he tried more of a wispered voice for the first 2 weeks and then he and everybody else realized it was awful. He also found out Christian Bale did the same thing for Batman Begins and later dropped it, hence take a chill pill and wait at least for the first teaser.

Let me guess then...
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Amber Midthunder turns up in a Predator Pod? lol Doubtful

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Or creepy androgynous Androids hive minds? Human to android mind uploads?

(https://terrigen-cdn-dev.marvel.com/content/prod/1x/_lenny_card_0.jpg) Body hijacking and takeover? Perhaps multiple entities in one body?

Lot of body and mind horror in the concepts here, perfect for Alien in my opinion, and yes getting chased by real monsters whilst not knowing if you can rely on what you see just ups the ante.

Nice... i hope the weapons they use arent ARs like in covenant lol still would be nice if they use Pulse Rifles or make something new.

Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 01, 2022, 11:42:47 PMhttps://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/003/796/321/large/blake-lowry-spacejockey-fixed2.jpg?1477537683

X) No we didn't fake this one. We'd only do such a thing for April Fool's!

Thank god,That f**king tunnel art looks rad

Awesome. Awesome. Just awesome  8)

Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Sep 01, 2022, 11:39:11 PM

Quote from: skhellter on Sep 01, 2022, 11:38:01 PM

Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Sep 01, 2022, 11:33:49 PM

Quote from: skhellter on Sep 01, 2022, 11:12:45 PMCool.

But on a scale of 1 to 10

how f**king wild is the other spoilery concept art that you guys have seen?

I know there's an 11 or 12, maybe higher of a spoiler that I've heard about through the grape vine. But we will have to see how it plays out.

DAVID CAMEO CONFIRMED

That would actually be insane, but not it!!! Haha

RIPLEY'S GRANDMA CAMEO CONFIRMED

AUTONS CONFIRMED

Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Sep 01, 2022, 06:36:18 PMWhen the man called Alien³ great, on top of him making Legion, from then on I had no doubt in this Series.

He really said that ? I need to meet this guy and buy him a drink asap  :laugh:

Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Sep 01, 2022, 11:33:49 PM

Quote from: skhellter on Sep 01, 2022, 11:12:45 PMCool.

But on a scale of 1 to 10

how f**king wild is the other spoilery concept art that you guys have seen?

I know there's an 11 or 12, maybe higher of a spoiler that I've heard about through the grape vine. But we will have to see how it plays out.

Oh my... crashed spaceship, pre-Alien timeline, a potential way to salvage the Ridley timeline established in the prequels perhaps? I mean, everything we have heard about this series has the "AI touch" that Ridley was very interested in with Prometheus, Covenant, pre-production into Blade Runner 2049 and pretty much his involvement in Raised by Wolves. He is executive producing this, right? Scott Free is involved, as I can see from some posts online. What a tease!

See now Mike, you've got them all hyped up thinking that David or the Predators are going to show up when we know full-well it's just that the "Prodigy Corporation" is a placeholder for Tyrell.

So it's really more like a 7.

Quote from: lv_226 on Sep 02, 2022, 01:53:33 PMHe is executive producing this, right? Scott Free is involved, as I can see from some posts online. What a tease!

Indeed! And he's producing the upcoming Fede Álvarez Alien film as well.

I can't get/remain excited for something still so far off, but it's nice to have something to look at.

Looking forward to 2024.

I think if Scott is involved the prequels lore will not (Thankfully for me) be trashed

Conceivable Plotline post Advent, David skills up & franchises his Covenant experiments and crashlands this ship into the Prodigy homies for his Weyland Yutani besties

It's either taking place just before or concurrent to Prometheus, or just maybe after Ripley's time completely but, I will be very surprised if it continues the prequel narrative in any form.

I'm ok with everything as long as it's set after the events of Alien 3.

I'd be ok with a post Ripley story.

i'm gonna be optimistic and say that the WY logo being the Aliens/Alien3 one is a purposeful choice that signals that timeframe this will take place in.

Here's hoping the xenos just take over the whole planet. (Explaining why Earth is f**ked in Resurrection)

Who knows.. maybe they'll even show the start of the Auton Rebellion.

Quote from: skhellter on Sep 03, 2022, 03:26:59 PMHere's hoping the xenos just take over the whole planet. (Explaining why Earth is f**ked in Resurrection)

I don't think that would make much sense. None of the Betty's crew knew anything about the alien (hence why Call had to explain it to them and why it was so dangerous to breed them), and general Perez also commented that ripley died wiping the species out forcing them to resort to cloning to get their hands on it. If the aliens had overrun earth, they'd be common knowledge and not so hard to come by...

Best looking Alien since 1979............

And if you disagree, you're part of the reason for all the complaints, lol.

Resurrection is likely to just get kicked out of the main continuity like AVP and AVPR.

Some elements from it might inspire bits in the show though.

Quote from: skhellter on Sep 03, 2022, 04:13:28 PMResurrection is likely to just get kicked out of the main continuity like AVP and AVPR.

Some elements from it might inspire bits in the show though.

Who knows, they may kick out Alien3 too! Wouldn't surprise me at all...

Would love it if they reprised Blomkamp's ideas too. Have Hicks and Newt as characters, grown up and with their traumas, as in Aliens Book One

Then you need to pay more attention to the news:

https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2022/09/04/disney-not-interested-in-returning-to-ripleys-storyline/

Quote"I don't know," she said. "Ridley has gone in a different direction. Maybe Ripley has done her bit. She deserves a rest."

-Sigourney Weaver

Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Dec 13, 2021, 02:24:36 PMVanity Fair: What's next for you?

What's next for me, it looks like, an Alien series for FX, taking on that franchise and those amazing films by Ridley Scott and James Cameron and David Fincher. Those are great monster movies, but they're not just monster movies. They're about humanity trapped between our primordial, parasitic past and our artificial intelligence future—and they're both trying to kill us. Here you have human beings and they can't go forward and they can't go back. So I find that really interesting.


Where are you in that process?

I've written a couple of scripts, the first two scripts, and we're looking to make them next spring. When you get to something with this level of visual effects, there's a lot of preparation that has to go into it. What's been really illuminating is to see that the entire film industry had to take a year off and they are now trying to jam two years of production into one year. So it's very hard to look on the planet earth and see where you might make something in the next six months. Everyone is racing to make up for lost time. So, I figure let that bubble burst a little bit and we'll do it right.

Is there anything else you can share about it? Is it part of the Ripley story, or will it be original characters in a different time and place?

It's not a Ripley story. She's one of the great characters of all time, and I think the story has been told pretty perfectly, and I don't want to mess with it. It's a story that's set on Earth also. The alien stories are always trapped... Trapped in a prison, trapped in a space ship. I thought it would be interesting to open it up a little bit so that the stakes of "What happens if you can't contain it?" are more immediate.

Deadly things that can't be contained and the whole world at risk? Sounds relevant to the past year.

On some level it's also a story about inequality. You know, one of the things that I love about the first movie is how '70s a movie it is, and how it's really this blue collar space-trucker world in which Yaphet Kotto and Harry Dean Stanton are basically Waiting for Godot. They're like Samuel Beckett characters, ordered to go to a place by a faceless nameless corporation. The second movie is such an '80s movie, but it's still about grunts. Paul Reiser is middle management at best. So, it is the story of the people you send to do the dirty work.

How does that relate to your series?

In mine, you're also going to see the people who are sending them. So you will see what happens when the inequality we're struggling with now isn't resolved. If we as a society can't figure out how to prop each other up and spread the wealth, then what's going to happen to us? There's that great Sigourney Weaver line to Paul Reiser where she says, "I don't know which species is worse. At least they don't f**k each other over for a percentage."

Hi. There may be some good news, at least for me behind this concept art. If it happens before Covenant then David did not create the Xenomorph. Also on concept art with the alien i think it is traped by two upgraded humans or whatever they are. You can see the whip in front and behind the Alien.

Quote from: Fiker on Sep 04, 2022, 03:07:36 PMHi. There may be some good news, at least for me behind this concept art. If it happens before Covenant then David did not create the Xenomorph. Also on concept art with the alien i think it is traped by two upgraded humans or whatever they are. You can see the whip in front and behind the Alien.

yeah they're still in time to retcon the david creator thing

and perhaps do away with the engineers, at last

Quote from: Fiker on Sep 04, 2022, 03:07:36 PMYou can see the whip in front and behind the Alien.

Pretty sure that's actually a cable that he was using to crawl up the vertical shaft that he's in that's been split by the Alien, not a whip.

Omg yes, looks promising

It definitely looks interesting. Still cautiously optimistic about this.

I think he really "gets it" unlike some rejected pitches.

Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Sep 04, 2022, 06:33:43 PMIt definitely looks interesting. Still cautiously optimistic about this.

Yeah same. Disney walking on thin ice rn, they know the last time they did an Alien film it didn't do that well with the fans so they better churn out something wild if they want to make the money they so desperately want out of it

I love how... traditional? It feels. Like I get there's a lot of bizarre elements with character names and the like and I'm sure Hawley has plenty of surprises up his sleeve but I don't mind the back to basics approach.

I Since Cancellation of " Raised by Wolf's " which has garnered quite a following including myself ....../.. 

I'm fully expecting the concept art to be misleading and that we'll end up with a Feralized Hawleymorph.

Scottfree Production
Luke Scott seems to be involved...

Doubt that he'd just undo his and his father's work in the prequels.

I'm expecting David and the Engineers to be respected but not directly referenced.
Maybe David will get a tiny cameo. A mini message aboard the ship that crashed, perhaps.

Or perhaps we find his severed head in a living Space Jockey's hand :) never mess with the gods

Knowing Hawley, would 100% expect references or even plot threads relating to the Ridley Prequels. He straight up continued an unresolved plot thread from the original Fargo movie in his show, without bringing back any of its characters. Plus Landgraf saying all that "it exists in a larger universe" stuff.

Why assume that Hawley cares about the prequels at all?  He may be a purist and only care about the original trilogy.

Because if he doesn't it might upset people

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Quote from: Omegamorph on Sep 05, 2022, 12:58:27 AMOr perhaps we find his severed head in a living Space Jockey's hand :) never mess with the gods

I would prefer David to die at hands of his "children"

I would prefer no David at all.

I can't be the only one who thinks there's too much "wrong" with what I have heard already to give me any hope that this will be anywhere near good enough and we are going to end up with a convoluted show where the Xeno is secondary to a story arc about religion and artificial intelligence.

Basing it on earth is a massive no-no for me.  The fact is that once the Xeno reaches earth, It's game over for the human race.

Basing it on the Ridley Scott movies is also a terrible idea, although I will admit that there are plenty of threads in those films that could be developed into something better. Let's not forget, Ridley neither wrote the script nor the screenplay for the 79 movie, so I don't see why we keep giving him the reins to guide the future of the franchise.  Even the inclusion of an android in the original wasn't his idea! 

Don't get me wrong, as an artistic director, Scott is untouchable, but as has been proven over and over again, as soon as he gets involved with the plot and screenplay of a project, it goes to pieces, mainly because he's always seeking to inject some pseudo religious arc into the proceedings.  Having his son on board doesn't necessarily mean Ridley will be involved, but I do fear his legacy will overshadow the proceedings.

Noah Hawley is a bit of an unknown in science fiction.  Yes, he did Legion, which was an interesting take on the X-Men character, And Fargo is up there with Twin Peaks as far as surrealist fiction goes, but if he's basing this on Scott's ideas for the future of the Alien franchise, will lead to "Raised by Wolves 2" meets "Pinnochio" via "Space Jesus".

Preferably, Id like to keep the series about the Xeno's.  Reference the Scott Movies if it makes sense, but not as the core premise for the entire show, and keep it as far away from Earth as possible.  Marvel/Disney have already written 3 comic arcs since taking on the franchise in comic form, so there are ideas being kicked around aplenty, and If we are going to see Walter/David appearance, then let's resolve that story and establish some ideas that expand the universe rather than try to turn it into some AI fuelled nightmare just because Ridley wants to remake a Kubrik movie. 

Personally, I would like to see Hawley establish the Xeno's as "that goddam terrifying" and that the creature that the Engineers "worship" (from the Prometheus screenplay) that led to them making "The Black Goo" is actually one of the space jockey species, rather than just writing that creation off as nothing more than a cool-looking space suit for the big white dudes.  Establish ideas for the future, and have lots of existential terror, cosmic horrors and atmosphere instead of shooty shooty "acid for blood " moments

I will say this - Hawley knows how to weave multiple threaded (and rather quirky, offbeat) storylines into a cohesive arc for a show as seen on Fargo across most of it's seasons.

I have to watch the rest of it. Season 1 absolutely ruled.

I enjoyed all the seasons and the casting of Fargo. So far Noah has shown that he knows what he's doing when it comes to TV shows.

Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Sep 06, 2022, 01:00:43 AMI enjoyed all the seasons and the casting of Fargo. So far Noah has shown that he knows what he's doing when it comes to TV shows.

Agreed. He really does channel the Coen's perfectly throughout the entire series.

I also wonder about the cast. Hawley has an expert eye for casting, will he follow the Alien tradition of not hiring any "huge" names? The prototype actors for the two leads were Domhnall Gleeson and Danai Gurira. Usually prototypes dont mean that much, but he knows exactly what he wants, a lot of the Fargo actors were specifically sought out by him, so I wouldnt be suprised to see them as the leads. Plus Domhnall Gleeson is suspiciously free of projects, which makes sense if he thought filming would begin this year. Judging by the story details, the show is huge in scope, so a huge cast can be expected too.

The characters we know so far are:
Hermit - Medic for the private army of Prodigy
Wendy - 10 year old girl in the body of a superpowered soldier created by Prodigy
Kirsh - Synth who works for Prodigy and is a trainer and mentor to Wendy
Dame Sylvia - Scientist for Prodigy, also looks after Wendy
Boy Kavalier - Very young CEO of Prodigy
Atom Ein - Boy Kavaliers manipulative advisor

Absolutely no word on the crew of The Maginot, all the character details we know are about those working for Prodigy.

Putting Hamish Linklater on my casting bingo card, just because I know Hawley's used him in the past and he was phenomenal in Midnight Mass.

Currently watching Season 2 of Fargo, absolutely excellent so far, will watch Season 3.

Please for the love of God watch Legion @Nightmare Asylum it's right up your alley.

Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 06, 2022, 02:29:06 PMPutting Hamish Linklater on my casting bingo card, just because I know Hawley's used him in the past and he was phenomenal in Midnight Mass.

Oh yeah, he was fantastic in Midnight Mass. That was such a great show.

Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Sep 06, 2022, 02:38:35 PMCurrently watching Season 2 of Fargo, absolutely excellent so far, will watch Season 3.

Please for the love of God watch Legion @Nightmare Asylum it's right up your alley.

Ok you got me. I'm gonna watch Legion now.

It is on Disney+ in the UK and Hulu everywhere. I have been desperate to talk about it and in relation to Alien on this forum for years. And Midnight Mass's excellent.

Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Sep 06, 2022, 02:52:39 PMIt is on Disney+ in the UK and Hulu everywhere. I have been desperate to talk about it and in relation to Alien on this forum for years. And Midnight Mass's excellent.

Found it on Disney+ here in Oz too.

Good stuff.

Aliens is getting so boring now.

They better scrap the idea of Earth. Everyone has known putting it on Earth is stupid, even back in the 90's they
knew not to put it on Earth when they had been toying with the idea.
The ALIEN series is about MYSTERY, ALIEN LANDSCAPES and NOT EXPLAINING THINGS.
Ridley decided to ruin the mystery of the Space Jockey by making him a humanoid in a bio-suit (dumbest idea ever),
now they want to put it on Earth so they can crank out cheap looking series that get their budget lowered every new
season as they endlessly milk the concept dead. Just stop it already. FFS.

I agree FARGO series is excellent. But I really don't like the idea of ALIEN on Earth, nor on TV.
The thing Ridley blew when he went back to the series is that the CREATURE IT'S SELF needs to look SCARY.
I was so pissed off with Covenant for going CGI, wtf were they thinking with that stupid back splitter scene and the
cartoonish creature? We live in 2022. We have so much tech, so many advances in latex, robotics, etc. yet NO ONE
seems to get the idea of just making a creature flick that has a MONSTER it's self which is SCARY and REAL.
Where the F is Rob Bottin? Someone needs to get him out of whatever stone he crawled under, get John Carpenter
and Dean Cundy and do a proper monster flick with actual prosthetic trickery, IN CAMERA magic, like the old days,
but using today's tech. Like how they make awesome retro games today that are like super versions of the old ones.
I can't stand 3D rendered characters. Use CGI for backdrops and editing and coloring but make your damn monsters
real... And what TV series is gonna be able to keep that up consistently? NONE. It is MOVIE material. You have to get
all the editing and lighting and story perfect and just give us a real monster movie, not a tv series, not pseudo bad
philosophy about the origins of man. I would actually like to have Ridley's prequels finished and I know how to do it too.
They can undo the entire wreck if they make the Engineers actually NOT be the Space Jockey.
They just designed their suits and look after them because they worship them and have the REAL, actual Space Jockey
creatures show up in the final one and kick everyone's ass. This can fix so many of the complaints, why the Engineers
in the suits aren't as big as the skeleton found in ALIEN, etc.

WETA's generally pretty good at balancing practical and computer generated imagery if you go by Prometheus.

As for Noah Hawley:

Here's three more pieces for you!

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The first piece depicts Wendy within an urban forest, wielding blades as a Xenomorph stalks her through the trees. Next up we can see another angle of the USCSS Maginot Weyland-Yutani starship crash, something we shared artwork on last fall. Prodigy Tactical Response, a PMC unit of the Prodigy Corporation rushes to view the crash from their rooftop recreation area. Lastly, we have a view of the crashed Maginot's cryosleep chamber, being explored by Prodigy Tactical Response soldiers Hermit and Idoya.

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Any news on who is doing the creature effects for the movie?

So, EVO is still around in the dark, dystopian future. Better that than crypto.

Thank you for sharing!

An Alien in trees/forest setting is something I've wanted to see for a long, long time...

Please no, dear god no, no melee combat in alien with swords, it worked in icarus because it's a comic and it only happened in one book, but in series it's taking the risk of ruining the saga

Quote from: RidgeTop on Apr 26, 2023, 07:33:38 PMHere's three more pieces for you!

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The first piece depicts Wendy within an urban forest, wielding blades as a Xenomorph stalks her through the trees. Next up we can see another angle of the USCSS Maginot Weyland-Yutani starship crash, something we shared artwork on last fall. Prodigy Tactical Response, a PMC unit of the Prodigy Corporation rushes to view the crash from their rooftop recreation area. Lastly, we have a view of the crashed Maginot's cryosleep chamber, being explored by Prodigy Tactical Response soldiers Hermit and Idoya.

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Man, I am not sure what to make of this. It is all sensory overload. The Earth-bound setting has always been problematic, let alone a pre-Alien setting. I wonder how in the hell all of this is going to tie together. So, the Weyland ship clearly came across something, somewhere... Alien in the trees... man, it's all about the execution. Consider me cautiously hyped!

Looks like me - screaming WHYYYYYYYYY? :'(

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Quote from: RidgeTop on Apr 26, 2023, 07:33:38 PMHere's three more pieces for you!

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The first piece depicts Wendy within an urban forest, wielding blades as a Xenomorph stalks her through the trees. Next up we can see another angle of the USCSS Maginot Weyland-Yutani starship crash, something we shared artwork on last fall. Prodigy Tactical Response, a PMC unit of the Prodigy Corporation rushes to view the crash from their rooftop recreation area. Lastly, we have a view of the crashed Maginot's cryosleep chamber, being explored by Prodigy Tactical Response soldiers Hermit and Idoya.

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Man, I am not sure what to make of this. It is all sensory overload. The Earth-bound setting has always been problematic, let alone a pre-Alien setting. I wonder how in the hell all of this is going to tie together. So, the Weyland ship clearly came across something, somewhere... Alien in the trees... man, it's all about the execution. Consider me cautiously hyped!

Based on the prior art shared back in September, it seems like the the WY ship USCSS Maginot found/was transporting the Alien eggs, so the ship crashing is definitely the culprit of the Earth-set outbreak here in what seems to be Prodigy territory. I'm guessing the forest falls within that same territory on Earth? The writeup mentions it being an "urban" forest so that tracks.

Wendy with the blades definitely feels like something a beat (or more) removed from what one would expect from a series in this universe, but also pretty in line with the leaked description of the character, so it doesn't really come as a shock to me here even though it does feel off for Alien.

Still can't quite shake how odd the pre-Alien Earth setting feels, like you said, but with each drip of info like this I'm growing more and more curious/intrigued, if not excited, about this take on the material.

EDIT: Giving the video Hicks posted a watch now!

Quote from: lv_226 on Apr 26, 2023, 07:38:50 PMThe Earth-bound setting has always been problematic, let alone a pre-Alien setting. I wonder how in the hell all of this is going to tie together.

I'm still hoping they change the setting to be post-Alien 3 by the time it reaches our screens. There's nothing to gain by having it set pre-Alien, but a lot to mess up in terms of everything the movies have already established. Meanwhile having it set after Alien 3 allows them to pretty much do whatever they like and not have to worry about contradicting anything, as well as creating more tension because we'll be less certain of how everything's going to turn out in the end, which isn't going to be the case if it's set around Prometheus time.

On the plus side though it'd pretty decidedly confirm David's not the creator, in which case.....wait, I've changed my mind! Totally set it pre-Alien after all! :laugh:

Hey @Local Trouble  can you find that post of me saying that every new piece of news makes me lose interest I never even knew I still had?

Wendy with the swords may be the final nail in the coffin.

Regarding Wendy, my mind just kind of keeps going back to Alita: Battle Angel. She definitely seems to be sort of 'heightened' in contrast to everything else in the reality around her, at least according to how these pieces of concept art seem to be selling the material...

The stuff on the Maginot seems to be a bit more standard a riff on the usual Alien/Aliens fare.

Everything looks alright, if not generic.. The dual blades tho... and the fact that it takes place on Earth.. and is a prequel  series...

Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 26, 2023, 08:09:55 PMRegarding Wendy, my mind just kind of keeps going back to Alita: Battle Angel.

Which is exactly what I want watching an Alien tv series.

I can't reconcile art like that with claims they want to return to the feel of the original movie.

f**king swords? Really, Hawley?

This series is different from classic Alien.

Alien fede will be similar to the original but Noah is different and more daring.

This series will reinvent Alien. I think it will be more science fiction, more Prometheus with moments of classic terror like Alien79 but with 8 or 10 episodes it cannot be 8 hours of terror in a ship. There will be everything.

And so it should be. There will be two of Alien. One for those who want Alien79 and others for those who want more Prometheus, more Blade Runner, more Alita, more ghost in the shell  or something newer.


This series must take a risk and break Alien to rebuild it.
And don't risk killing the saga.

The Alien saga is DEAD since Alien Resurection and then Prometheus resurrected it in part with another approach that divided a lot.

After Covenant is a mixture of everything that did not work. More Blood, more  horror but typical and very see.

This saga needs risk and less love/fear.

Andor is best series/movie since trilogy originals. Andor is a series made by someone who is not a fan and

HE does not respect Star Wars. He said it.

He asked to leave respect out  his writers and mind open.


This serie is for fans Aliens with mind open, very open like  me XD for example.

I accidentally posted in another thread lol, but each piece of concept art that comes out has made me a bit more nervous about the series ngl. And I was initially a bit more excited for the series than I was for the film, when it was announced that Noah Hawley is leading it. Not completely writing off the series yet, but I grow more and more cautious about it.

Quote from: RIP77 on Apr 26, 2023, 08:43:34 PMThis series is different from classic Alien.

Except they've said repeatedly they want to recreate the tone and feel and themes of the original movie.

So are they lying or is their understanding of the franchise just Titan publishing levels?

it's early pitch art.. right? So i'm not stressing out too much over these. These were done before they actually hired a proper production designer. (and before Weta got involved)

As far as Wendy with the swords?
Ridley put martial arts in Covenant. Thank him.

I mean, there's a chance sword wielder gets immediately slaughtered by a Xeno. One can hope

Also, David vs Walter ROCKS, thank you very much

That's the main character so no.

Quote from: Kradan on Apr 26, 2023, 09:18:14 PMAlso, David vs Walter ROCKS, thank you very much

i love it.

while also admitting that the set design + choreography is just one song choice away from feeling like something in a Mortal Kombat movie tv show

Quote from: skhellter on Apr 26, 2023, 09:12:30 PMit's early pitch art.. right? So i'm not stressing out too much over these. These were done before they actually hired a proper production designer. (and before Weta got involved)

These are by Weta. Produced in 2021.

Quote from: SiL on Apr 26, 2023, 09:23:10 PMThat's the main character so no.

Dang it. Well, maybe at least severely injured. Glued-to-a-wheelchair kind of "injured" ? With disfigured face and everything

Quote from: Kradan on Apr 26, 2023, 09:39:56 PM

Quote from: SiL on Apr 26, 2023, 09:23:10 PMThat's the main character so no.

Dang it. Well, maybe at least severely injured. Glued-to-a-wheelchair kind of "injured" ? With disfigured face and everything

According to the leaks a while back,

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Wendy is a human consciousness (Hermit's sister, actually) in an android body. So that disfigured face would likely yield a lot of milk...

This is why my mind just keeps going back to Alita when I look at that art piece.

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Android ninja ? Not too sure about that

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I don't like it.

I don't dislike it, per say, but I do think at the stage I'm at right now, I need to be sold on the actual execution of the Wendy idea/concept. 'Cause it's something that could definitely be interesting, but really could go either way.

Quote from: SiL on Apr 26, 2023, 07:53:43 PMHey @Local Trouble  can you find that post of me saying that every new piece of news makes me lose interest I never even knew I still had?

Wendy with the swords may be the final nail in the coffin.

This?

Quote from: SiL on Apr 25, 2022, 10:16:02 PMIt finally happened.

I finally hit a point where there was no interest left to lose. I've hit rock bottom.

Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 26, 2023, 09:56:05 PM

Quote from: SiL on Apr 26, 2023, 07:53:43 PMHey @Local Trouble  can you find that post of me saying that every new piece of news makes me lose interest I never even knew I still had?

Wendy with the swords may be the final nail in the coffin.

This?

Quote from: SiL on Apr 25, 2022, 10:16:02 PMIt finally happened.

I finally hit a point where there was no interest left to lose. I've hit rock bottom.

How naïve I was.

Quote from: SiL on Apr 26, 2023, 09:06:09 PM

Quote from: RIP77 on Apr 26, 2023, 08:43:34 PMThis series is different from classic Alien.

Except they've said repeatedly they want to recreate the tone and feel and themes of the original movie.

So are they lying or is their understanding of the franchise just Titan publishing levels?

The interviews I read didn't say that.

A part will be Alien79  becose are 8h  so they don't lie but they don't tell the whole truth. Is compatible becose are 8h.Imagine one capitule only terror/horror in typical Alien scenario as a base. BUT more capitules, more styles .


They said that there would be Alien and terror but it is a series where they will touch on more themes and approaches.


They said that they cannot depend ONLY on the Alien in 8h. Is not movie.


The producers will sell that it is terror and faithful to Alien but Noah is clear that he is going his way. And seeing what has come out and is known...

God, I can't wait for this. :laugh:

Quote from: RIP77 on Apr 26, 2023, 10:01:31 PMThe interviews I read didn't say that.

They've said repeatedly they want to capture the feel of the original the most.

EDIT

Ah, here it is

Quote"some inventiveness and originality that is uniquely Noah."

Swords it is then.

Bet you there'll be some symbolism about magic swords and questing too, given the acid thing.

Yes but this sensation in 8h or 2h?

Is a serie, is differente formate y too  they speak of  different tone, styles...

I read interviews differents where Alien is excuse to  others tones , no serie style Alien 100% becose are  a lot of hours and no dependet only of Alien and terror. They speak  it too.

This  is variable. Movies are more ine tone but in 8hours.. is different.

Noah said it's a cold war thriller between two corporations too.

Alien style under thriller style Noah. 8h differents. No ONLY Alien style  79.

Quote from: [cancerblack] on Apr 26, 2023, 10:26:55 PMBet you there'll be some symbolism about magic swords and questing too, given the acid thing.

Whoa whoa whoa, we already have Peter Pan riffs going on here. Is there room for a King Arthur/The Sword in the Stone quest, too? :laugh:

Seems like an entirely plausible filler episode.

Quote from: RIP77 on Apr 26, 2023, 10:30:40 PMI read interviews differents where Alien is excuse to  others tones , no serie style Alien 100% becose are  a lot of hours and no dependet only of Alien and terror. They speak  it too.

The tone is more than "Alien and terror". Nobody's expecting that or talking about that.

The tone is relatable people working relatable jobs in the future encountering malignant forces both natural and man made in the oppressive depths of space.

Robot ninjas are not it.

I am... Not convinced. Not yet.

Quote from: Stitch on Apr 26, 2023, 11:11:36 PMI am... Not convinced. Not yet.

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now?

Everything new we see is increasingly bonkers. It feels like a live action take on 80's/90's Dark Horse comics, I can't wait.

that's been my main interest in this as well.

Legit live action dark horse bullshit.

but will this be well executed and will it fly with general audiences... we'll see.

Looks like the concept art to a sci-fi open world game or a League of Legends cinematic, which is not what Alien is, but im gonna be there cause Hawley is making it and I have not seen anything like this in live-action before. Also how expensive will this be? Noah mentioned some budget cuts in the beginning in 2022, but Prey was a huge success and that may make the suits more generous. I hope so, cause these photos scream "this will be too expensive, we cant do that" to me. A lot of the crazier stuff may not even make it to the screen.

Quote from: [cancerblack] on Apr 26, 2023, 10:38:25 PMSeems like an entirely plausible filler episode.

What are the chances that this show will be the Andor of the Alien series?

The problem with that is that stripping out a lot of the Star Wars from a Star Wars product makes it better, not worse, and this seems to be adding a lot of tonally weird shit rather than trimming back.

First impressions were `WTF? Double blades? What is this?'

Then I remembered the quirkiness and oddball style Hawley brought to the Fargo series (mimicking the Coen's style). For example `Supernatural elements' in season 4 (Theodore Roach's ghost).

Thing is it never diminished the rather darker tone, violence or crime genre of that show. He has a knack of blending off skew elements into the narrative.

So I'm not going to go down the obvious thought route on this based on one concept piece... but it is a bit `hmmmm' for sure.

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Forget it. It was a bad joke

Quote from: Prez on Apr 27, 2023, 03:55:46 AMSo I'm not going to go down the obvious thought route on this based on one concept piece... but it is a bit `hmmmm' for sure.

For me it's the concept piece plus literally everything else said about the project before now. If that Art was the only odd thing I'd be happy.

Quote from: Kradan on Apr 26, 2023, 09:48:41 PM

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Android ninja ? Not too sure about that

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We've had space truckers, space marines, space convicts, space pirates, space scientists and space colonists, so why not duel-wielding, android space ninjas?  ;D

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dark horse had been preparing us for this day...

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Android ninja ? Not too sure about that

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We've had space truckers, space marines, space convicts, space pirates, space scientists and space colonists, so why not duel-wielding, android space ninjas?  ;D

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I suppose it worked in Music of Spears. Although IIRC all but one of the ninja squad were melted by acid. And they were there to steal an egg, not to slash some Aliens.

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Quote from: [cancerblack] on Apr 27, 2023, 01:44:46 AMThe problem with that is that stripping out a lot of the Star Wars from a Star Wars product makes it better, not worse, and this seems to be adding a lot of tonally weird shit rather than trimming back.

Better or worse is more complicated than more or less Star Wars.

The Mandalorian is good and pure Star Wars.

Is more important quality general and quality Showrunners or directors like Filoni in Mandalorian or Tony Gilroy in Andor.

The fans didn't trust Tony before they saw it.


Good scripts are the most important thing and people who know what they are doing with creative freedom.


Noah H is good but is Noah...

Alien hasn't had a really good movie, a really good one since Aliens. Is a Universe dead where experiment in this serie and movie Fede is  more clasic.

Fox give two  products Alien  very differentes to differents audiences.

FX is not Fox. FX is more liberty to showrunners than Fox to directors.


His tone in this series will only be known if he is good at watching the series.

  Seeing concept art is tricky out of context.

PREY suffered hate before the premiere so this series will be hated more because it is riskier que PREY and than Fede's movie.

Only by seeing it will we know if everything fits well or not. But for my part, a very open mind because Noah has had carte blanche for better or worse. And YES ninja robot is rare but in context  in show maybe no. For me narrative is more importa than ALL, repeat  speak for me.

Have been trying to think of a situation where blades wouldn't come across as ridiculous and... Holographic training? but it wouldn't make sense to train someone for a technique like that.

Maybe a dream sequence, but it would still be hopelessly predictable.

A synthetic trying to do a 'last stand' thing? The blades look too obviously... Bladey, not something improvised and repurposed as last-ditch weapons.If you were a robot, you might as well just hurl rocks at range with the force of a hydraulic cannon, instead.

Maybe they're not metal blades, but some sort of super-heated industrial tool? Well, then you might (maybe) not damage the instrument, but the wielder will still be getting splashed.

It runs a danger of feeling very cartoonish, in any case. The recent comics had a very similar issue.

Quote from: RIP77 on Apr 27, 2023, 11:45:22 AMIs more important quality general and quality Showrunners or directors like Filoni in Mandalorian or Tony Gilroy in Andor.

The fans didn't trust Tony before they saw it.

Many of us detested 'Andor'. Attrociously written, IMO, with zero character development. It's better not to assume one's personal views apply to the entirety of a fandom.

From heaven to hell. I was over the moon when I saw yesterday first image from Romulus. You know, I love Drizzt Do'Urden and fantasy stuff but this? In Alien universe?

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Next thing you know they'll be putting dragons into the Alienverse...

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Quote from: Xenomorphine on Apr 27, 2023, 06:00:57 PM

QuoteThe fans didn't trust Tony before they saw it.

Many of us detested 'Andor'. Attrociously written, IMO, with zero character development. It's better not to assume one's personal views apply to the entirety of a fandom.

Isolation's not good, Andor's not good, your takes just get worse each year huh?

Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Apr 27, 2023, 06:45:31 PMNext thing you know they'll be putting dragons into the Alienverse...

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Didn't Scott call Xenomorphs dragons at one point? :)

QuoteIf I see one more dragon I'm going to shoot myself. Stop the dragons.

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Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Apr 27, 2023, 06:45:31 PMNext thing you know they'll be putting dragons into the Alienverse...

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Didn't Scott call Xenomorphs dragons at one point? :)

QuoteIf I see one more dragon I'm going to shoot myself. Stop the dragons.

Ha yes, indeed!  :laugh:

QuoteMany of us detested 'Andor'. Attrociously written, IMO, with zero character development. It's better not to assume one's personal views apply to the entirety of a fan

Apply it to you too when speaking not only for your but for many. At the end of my comment I say that I speak for me.


Andor is liked by many and not by others, as always happens.


But we are not talking about Episode I or Alien4 than   like less, but about Andor than  like a lot and that is not an opinion, it is a fact.

And it doesn't change that many don't like it, as happens in all series. Andor is not Alien, which is something perfect and 99% like it. But I think the majority of SW fans like it and if it is not like that, they lose it because within SW it is one of the best written.

But is a example on Tony G like showrunner no fan of SW and polemican desicions.  But Is not site to speak SW. Is a example.


Noah is polemic and fan de Alien? or fan SCFI como Tony que used SW/Alien for make  other show different SW/Alien but than is SW/Alien too. Renoved, more serious, more politique, more thriller ...

Noah tell  than this show is thriller style cold war  with two corporations enfrentend. Spies, SCFI, tecnology different..But terror, Alien small scenaries  with people versus Alien too in typical movie Alien.

His show is  big an ambicious in tones, geners, styles.. My intuition

Mind open like ANDOR , MY opinion OF COURSE.

I fan stranger/radical becose love Alien but bored me Alien. I Need new formule, I need a terrorism showrunner to piss off fans and do what they want without paying attention to them.

Fede Alien yes. Respect, Original formule, classic Alien 79.   I Love these  style BUT in show Noah I  want revolution and shit on Alien.

This is the Way, MY Way  ;) .

The notoriously unreliable source Giant Freaking Robot just claimed Sydney Chandler (daughter of Kyle Chandler) will play the lead of this series. Sometimes they post accurate news like a day before the trades and I suspect this is one of those cases, because she is an unknown actress and that wouldnt bring them any clicks if they were making it up.

Looking at her filmography and it looks like Don't Worry Darling is the only thing I've seen her in (and to be completely honest I don't really remember her in that), so I'm not overly familiar with her work.

No idea how true this is given the notoriously janky source but... I guess she might be our Wendy?

She was in another FX series called Pistol. In Darling she was one of the wives, the short-haired androgynous one. The casting for Wendy was looking for an androgynous actor. Hopefully trades confirm soon.

Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 27, 2023, 07:01:55 PMIsolation's not good, Andor's not good, your takes just get worse each year huh?

I've praised the presentation style of 'Isolation' countless times. But if you're going to claim I should promote something which has been nothing but an unplayable glitch-fest for me, you're basically saying I should lie.

That's why I've also qualified my comments on it by saying I'm in the minority and that I'm glad others have enjoyed every minute with it. That's honesty. Not understanding why you'd have an issue with that.

And, yes, I regard 'Andor' as bad. Many others do, too. I can go into why that is and provide constructive criticism to back my view up.

Quote from: RIP77 on Apr 27, 2023, 08:16:53 PM

QuoteMany of us detested 'Andor'. Attrociously written, IMO, with zero character development. It's better not to assume one's personal views apply to the entirety of a fan

Apply it to you too when speaking not only for your but for many. At the end of my comment I say that I speak for me.

You wrote, "the fans." Like, the entire fandom. I was pointing out opinion on 'Andor' is very divisive. It's not a great example of something which has had overwhelmingly positive response in a fandom.

Isolation being a "unplayable glitchfest" genuinely sounds like a you issue, I've played through that game multiple times through the last decade and have yet to ever run into any kind of bug

Let's refrain from making differences of opinions personal, folks.

Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Apr 28, 2023, 05:13:15 PMIsolation being a "unplayable glitchfest" genuinely sounds like a you issue, I've played through that game multiple times through the last decade and have yet to ever run into any kind of bug

Have you ever heard a Tragedy of Bolt Gun The Floating ?

I love Isolation and have nothing against Xenomorphine for disliking it cause he explained his POV on numerous occasions

He has takes that are outright just unsupported (no evidence) on A.I in Alien.

Both Alien Isolation and artificial intelligence within the Alien fiction.

Even on Xbox 360 Alien Isolation played well, despite the technical limitations, and having no business being even remotely playable on a console of that spec.

I have not seen any evidence of Andor being divisive either, just overwhelming praise for the writing, the directing and acting.

The only detractors of note I can think of being Star Wars Theory who disliked the absence of lightsabers and the force and recognisable George Lucas elements which fair enough, if that's what you're interested in, and conservatives who took issue with "the politics" because they are uncomfortably close to Fascism and do not want to admit it.

I just would like any evidence for the wild claims I see from him.

Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 28, 2023, 08:08:34 PMHe has takes that are outright just unsupported (no evidence) on A.I in Alien.

Both Alien Isolation and artificial intelligence within the Alien fiction.

Even on Xbox 360 Alien Isolation played well, despite the technical limitations, and having no business being even remotely playable on a console of that spec.

I have not seen any evidence of Andor being divisive either, just overwhelming praise for the writing, the directing and acting.

The only detractors of note I can think of being Star Wars Theory who disliked the absence of lightsabers and the force and recognisable George Lucas elements which fair enough, if that's what you're interested in, and conservatives who took issue with "the politics" because they are uncomfortably close to Fascism and do not want to admit it.

I just would like any evidence for the wild claims I see from him.

My mates who are all keen Star Wars fans are split on Andor. Those that were not fans of it, didn't hate it but rather found it boring (and these are all 40+ middle aged nerds... I mean men).

That said most people I know were very positive on it.

I'm glad I brought up Andor earlier.  It really paid off. ;D

Seeing the stupid swords worries me a lot... And the genius behind calling the city that is controlled by Prodigy - "Prodigy city" should get fired. Why are all the names that we know of so far so awfully uncreative and cringe? I'm getting more and more worried about the show... And I still don't understand why it needs to be on Earth in the Prequel era.

It doesn't and it shouldn't. This entire project would be getting laughed at mercilessly if Noah Hawley wasn't attached to it.

I myself don't care who's attached to it so I'll laugh at it anyway. :laugh:

Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 29, 2023, 10:40:55 PMIt doesn't and it shouldn't. This entire project would be getting laughed at mercilessly if Noah Hawley wasn't attached to it.

I myself don't care who's attached to it so I'll laugh at it anyway. :laugh:

I'm laughing too, but partly to prevent myself from crying

Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 29, 2023, 10:40:55 PMIt doesn't and it shouldn't. This entire project would be getting laughed at mercilessly if Noah Hawley wasn't attached to it.

I myself don't care who's attached to it so I'll laugh at it anyway. :laugh:

You don't think naming a main character Wendy in a story about a character trying to achieve eternal youth is clever and cool?

Quote from: SiL on Apr 30, 2023, 12:45:16 AM

Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 29, 2023, 10:40:55 PMIt doesn't and it shouldn't. This entire project would be getting laughed at mercilessly if Noah Hawley wasn't attached to it.

I myself don't care who's attached to it so I'll laugh at it anyway. :laugh:

You don't think naming a main character Wendy in a story about a character trying to achieve eternal youth is clever and cool?

I'll have to withhold judgment until I see her dance sequence.

Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 29, 2023, 10:40:55 PMI myself don't care who's attached to it

The lies.

Spoiler

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Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 29, 2023, 10:40:55 PMhttps://media.tenor.com/tad21YZMTzMAAAAd/joker-what-the-heck.gif

The swords are bafflingly stupid to me honestly, I think that sort of thing works in the psychedelic unreality of something like Legion as does the names for things in this project but as for the rest here, I still think the fundamental story will be good but have given up all hope that the sensibilities and tone will be anything like the Alien we know.

It's Marvel Alien. But like, ironically. Or something.

our beloved franchise has had its tiny little share of heroic characters with superstrength (Walter, Ripley 8.... and huh.. Blue Marsalis counts.) Wendy is another one in that mold... we've even had martial arts before.. .this time.. we'll have swordplay. 


I've just come to accept that this franchise isn't gonna deliver EXACTLY what i want from it... ever. and it's kind of part of the fun to me at this point.


REMINDER!
https://www.dreadcentral.com/news/418260/ridley-scott-says-alien-is-a-great-superhero-movie-calls-the-rest-of-the-genre-boring-as-shit/


what are the chances that Wendy will kick an Alien in its noggin..
https://youtu.be/BxHbOc5ii3w?list=TLPQMzAwNDIwMjMNmQLQL3GqWQ

I wonder why they didn't just go ahead and cast Summer Glau in this.

that image with the swords is very whedony...

What concerns me the most at this time is the period that the story takes place in..
REALLY hope it's not set pre-Alien like the FX president keeps saying..

Quote from: skhellter on May 01, 2023, 11:46:07 AMthat image with the swords is very whedony...

God, I hope the dialogue is just bursting with MCU quips. :laugh:

ya i'm not worried about that. Even Noah's marvel show didn't have that. :laugh:

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I am seeing similarities in Kerry and Wendy from what we know, both have obviously an interest in swords apparently, in Kerry's case that interest came from being an immature person in a mature person's body, I would not be surprised if Wendy's characterisation's similar considering the circumstances, and also both have a strange but powerful connection to their brother because of their circumstances.

(https://64.media.tumblr.com/21dfc18059001aec90b32cf9c6833cd4/tumblr_pveg13Ztei1tmsxdno1_540.gif)

So not totally out of the blue for Noah Hawley but certainly, not the Alien people are already familiar with, whether it is well told or not and the tone will be the main deciding factors for me.

i appreciate that the swords just look like gigantic machetes


which was kind of the design idea behind the Uruk Hai swords.

Definitely Weta designs, then.

Still really hoping the Aliens-era WY logos in the concept art mean roughly that timeframe and not a major oversight/pre-Alien thing here.

Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 01, 2023, 01:17:02 PMStill really hoping the Aliens-era WY logos in the concept art mean roughly that timeframe and not a major oversight/pre-Alien thing here.

I remain fairly convinced this is more going to be Inspired By the franchise than in-continuity. Which in principle I fully support but it's all in the execution and so far, everything about this is off-putting to me personally.

Not sure I feel that that's actually the direction they're going for here, but I would be totally ok with an "out of continuity" thing. Never really cared one way or the other if every single installment was directly canon to one another, honestly. I'd be fine taking each iteration on its own merits, as with most of the Godzilla or James Bond movies.

I think there may well be something "on paper" that means it's not a one-off or spin-off, but that the content itself will just do whatever the f**k it wants and annoy the shit out of anyone trying to make it fit.

Legion Season 1:

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Fairly direct connection to the films, but then they decided to go their own way with that depiction, so precedence for this already exists.

(https://assets1.ignimgs.com/2019/07/12/legion-professor-x-charles-harry-lloyd-1562951800715_160w.jpg?width=1280)

But in Legion they ( Lauren Shuler Donner productor X-MEN movies)  said that it was not the same universe but there would be winks. 

Quote"We are separating it. We are our own world."

In Noah's Alien, the president says to THR  that it is the same universe, that it is not a reboot. And  the first story in the Alien saga.


It IS different than Legion but it also says that Noah expands and reimagines Alien.

I think that even being in the Alien universe, Noah will have the freedom to follow his path and it may not fit well or yes, but it officially goes before Alien. 


My doubt is if they mean before Alien or before Covenant.


70 years since now  ( says  CEO to THP) is between Prometheus  and Covenant.

Quote from: [cancerblack] on May 01, 2023, 10:00:44 PMI think there may well be something "on paper" that means it's not a one-off or spin-off, but that the content itself will just do whatever the f**k it wants and annoy the shit out of anyone trying to make it fit.

I fully expect it'll be just like Star Trek Discovery, which the showrunners insist is set in the original continuity despite all the incongruities.  Anyone who balks will just be dismissed as toxic fans.

SSDD

Sounds about par for the course.

This series has turned us all into Brett and Parker bitching about our shares down in the bowels of the Nostromo's engine room.

Right.

You'll get what's coming to you

Quote from: [cancerblack] on May 02, 2023, 12:24:59 AMRight.

I'm a little worried that you're losing interest in this project.

Yeah shape up, what are you, some kind of parrot?

Production Weekly update says the show starts production in September 2023, it was previously set as "mid 2023" on there.