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Title: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 30, 2007, 05:32:14 PM

Izzet over at Alien Experience found a really interesting article over at VFXWorld that they posted before AvPR’s release. It deals with a lot of technical related stuff but it’s quite a good read:

“The film came in under budget, “which doesn’t seem to happen too often around here,” Colin says. “It actually freed up money so the studio would let us expand the movie and do the Predator home world and bunch of other cool sequences.”

Even though the film is out and the majority of our forum members probably hate it, I’d still recommend giving the article a read.

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Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: DarthSidious on Dec 31, 2007, 05:43:51 AM
I don't hate AvPR, i love it! (this coming from a fan that will love anything Alien/Predator related)
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: daniel clavette on Dec 31, 2007, 05:47:56 AM
I like avp:r  it was  great movies.
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: maro on Dec 31, 2007, 05:54:37 AM
yeah, right ... they know they suck ..... i dont care for some lame talk.... i hope that crap is the last of this bullshit series ....
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: $cHm0cK on Dec 31, 2007, 05:55:30 AM
"Even though the film is out and the majority of our forum members probably hate it, "    Uhm .. NO! That is just wrong ... look at some polls etc. ... the mos like it!  greetz
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: sandro on Dec 31, 2007, 06:00:35 AM
great movie
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: mariog on Dec 31, 2007, 06:03:43 AM
yeah..it seems almost only the haters spend their time bitching about it. the other ones have lves outside the web   ;D  
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Biz on Dec 31, 2007, 06:17:48 AM
I enjoyed it and will see it again. I think most of the fans are satisfied with what it was.
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Starkiller on Dec 31, 2007, 06:53:45 AM
cant wait to watch this film (uk fan)    ;D  
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Caddylac Chrome on Dec 31, 2007, 06:53:58 AM
It's not as good as I excpected but I still liked it and will buy the DVD.
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Otnip on Dec 31, 2007, 06:54:45 AM
Darkness, don't get too down about all the reviews. This type of movie can be judged pretty unpredictably by the viewer despite what it may seem like. You might hate it, you might like it, but until time goes on I don't see it too beloved.
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Pvt. Hicks on Dec 31, 2007, 07:27:27 AM
Um, Corporal Hicks posted this news.
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: ewhtam3 on Dec 31, 2007, 07:38:11 AM
i do admit there were some flaws, but the Bros. did a good job at bringing back the ruthless predator and puting in some great fighting scenes. also watch the movie ***MEET THE SPARTANS***.
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 31, 2007, 07:39:32 AM
Hicks, no, Darkness does everything on here. Didn't ya know? All the different staff, they're Darkness.
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: stopit on Dec 31, 2007, 07:49:24 AM
i've liked every movie in both franchises so far.  AVP being one of the most under rated, mostly because its the most different.  Hey all you gore heads, the original Alien movies weren't R for violence or gore, they were R because they did what a horror movie is supposed to:  created a mood that would cause minors nightmares.  Gore for gores sake isn't scary.  Predator 2 was also under rated because Conan didn't reprise his role.  But despite your fanboy protestations AVPr doesn't fit anywhere.  While the other movies had decent scripts, direction, acting, fx, lighting, pacing, etc  AVPr has no redeeming qualities.  The fight scenes are fleeting.  No tension.  The predator home world SUCKED!  Now that you've seen one glimpse of a Mars-like world the next time the Pred home world is shown you will be disappointed if it doesn't look the same.  Regardless of whether the script rocks you people will cry, that's not what the Strause Brothers showed.  Wah, the Strause Bros will NOT be directing another installment thank god so don't get attached to any plotlines from this turd.  If another effort is green lit then it will be completely different than AVPr.
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: erjonlazio on Dec 31, 2007, 08:30:00 AM
i was very disappointed. i was expecting a much better movie.
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Sheriff Eddie Morales on Dec 31, 2007, 08:36:34 AM
AvP R was a great movie,i don't care what anybody else said.    :)  
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: andy_07 on Dec 31, 2007, 08:51:20 AM
i dont care what anyone else says.  i loved avpr, and will definitely be adding it to my collection when it comes to dvd.  it was a great movie, better then the first one in my opinion.  cant wait to see it again.  all these want-a-be critics need to get a freaking life.  "oh the human acting was bad, the pred home world didnt look like i hoped, its to dark."  DUDE WHAT THE F*** EVER!  great movie, i definitely recommend it to all fans.
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Otnip on Dec 31, 2007, 08:52:18 AM
Opps, my bad Hicks    :o    But if you also live in the UK I'd say what I said applies to you too     :)  
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Maximus on Dec 31, 2007, 09:49:59 AM
AvP-R was too cheap and too fanboyish for its intentions.  It's around AvP's/Predator 2's level in terms of quality, but far inferior to any of the Alien films.  In fact, it's a real disgrace to them, yes even AR.  You need professional filmmakers doing these films.  Jeaunet, although he made an uneven film, has more filmmaking talent than both Strauses combined.  I doubt there will be an AvP 3, but if there is, Fox needs a real director to make it.  David Twohy or Alex Proyas would be good choices.
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: killzonewith bladesandteet on Dec 31, 2007, 10:11:12 AM
David Twohy......interesting idea
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Maximus on Dec 31, 2007, 10:46:30 AM
That's only a "what if" scenario.  I don't want another AvP, and I've convinced people not to see AvPR in theaters so Fox doesn't get more money.
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: eXhale on Dec 31, 2007, 11:26:07 AM
Of course Jean-Pierre Jeunet has more directing skills than the Strauses, after all he made A Very Long Engagement and Amelie, think of the Strauses doing these movies... *cough* but he was somewhat in the wrong place, I think, and the script was bad for Alien Resurrection. Not as bad as AVP2's script, though... I really hope that some of the people from the original movies will now want to redeem the franchise and make one or two proper movies (Alien 5 hopefully) and then be done with it.   This whole AvP idea has failed the way Fox did it. They might try to do a third one, but if you look at the figures, the second AvP movie will probably make something about 70, 80 million perhaps in cinemas in total and that's not even half of what the first one made. so if there's a third one they probably won't be spending more money on it than they did on the second one. which means - not enough money for a decent script / actors / the setting / effects etc... so a third one would probably be even worse than the second. Hopefully they never decide to turn the alien / predator franchise into direct-to-dvd movies...
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Biz on Dec 31, 2007, 11:48:56 AM
Just got back from my second viewing. I honestly thought it was even better the second time! When you already have an idea of what is about to happen it seems to pace itself better. I noticed a lot of things that I missed the first time. The theater was sold out and all my friends thought it was excellent!  People are hating on this movie simply because they wanted something different. I knew what we were gonna get and it exceeded my expectations.
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Wolfs Girl on Dec 31, 2007, 11:54:14 AM
David Twohy? he did Pitch Black, right? I LOVE that film, yeah I've seen other Twohy films and I've liked them alot, he would be a good choice!
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Wolfs Girl on Dec 31, 2007, 11:58:36 AM
Miximus, its a catch 22. telling people not to go see in the hope it won't make much money and they won't to another bad sequel. but then if what if they do a better film? How do you know the next one will be IT? I'd rather chance seeing more crap films come along, but I still want to see films from both characters coming, bring them all on, but please make them GOOD! Let the people whi give a damn about both series to do the film, not a bunch who don't give a shit. Thats what we need here.
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: JK on Dec 31, 2007, 12:07:48 PM
After AVP-R what movie would you like to see ?  maybe in a  faaaaaaaaaar away future.  Alien 5, P3 or AVP3.  Happy new year.   ;D     ;D     ;D  
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: rchin1 on Dec 31, 2007, 12:36:48 PM
I love AVP-R  I watch it 5 times    :)   I give a shit what anybody say I still enjoy it    :)     :)     :)  
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Max on Dec 31, 2007, 01:23:38 PM
Wolf'sGirl: They should have done a good AvP when the first one made $170 million worldwide.  Anderson got a fairly low budget ($60 million) and they hacked up his script and rushed the production, and AvP was the result.  Watchable but below par.    Still, the movie was a huge global hit and made almost 3 times more than it cost.  You would think that Fox would give the sequel a bigger budget and get in some great actors and a great director to make the best movie possible so that it's an even bigger hit.  Fox didn't do that.  Instead, they gave AvP 2 HALF the budget of the original!  That's unheard of.  They hired a hack screenwriter, a bunch of TV stars, and two special effects guys to make the movie.  AvPR should have been sent straight to DVD.    So why would Fox suddenly be our friend if we give them money for AvP 2?  They're NEVER going to make the big, epic AvP that fans want.    The only way to teach them is if we don't pay for garbage.  If we do that, it'll send a message to them that we expect good filmmaking.    This may either kill the franchise or re-start the Alien series (it's been almost 18 years since a stand-alone Predator film, I think that's pretty much dead), but at least we won't get a crappier, cheaper AvP 3.
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: killzonewith bladesandteet on Dec 31, 2007, 01:25:14 PM
Maximus | 30 Dec 2007 22:45 21  That's only a "what if" scenario. I don't want another AvP, and I've convinced people not to see AvPR in theaters so Fox doesn't get more money. ?  I don't understand that mentality at all                            :-[     :-[  
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: bueeeee on Dec 31, 2007, 01:56:37 PM
"Anderson got a fairly low budget ($60 million) and they hacked up his script and rushed the production, and AvP was the result."  anderson made a comics-movie for children, as well as all darkhorses and steve perries make shit for children.   maybe after second comics-movie all those comics-fans will understand that their masturbated comics are crap for stupid little children, and all the production that tries to unite movies and comics is dead before birth.  but i doubt it - this category of people doesn't understand anything.   i am glad by only one reason. now 20centuryfox will at last get away their stupid hands from aliens and predators. let them produce all that hybrid and honor shit for children, not for aliens and predators.
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Max on Dec 31, 2007, 02:32:33 PM
I partially agree with you.  Just compare any of the Alien films to AvP, and they're so much better that it's actually depressing to see what a joke the AvP films turn them into.
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: sokka on Dec 31, 2007, 05:16:18 PM
on ebay there is a new predalien vs predator maqutte
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Blaz on Dec 31, 2007, 06:19:59 PM
I enjoyed this film a lot. Great watch.
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Desire2Fire on Dec 31, 2007, 06:33:30 PM
This film was gonna die a painful death as soon as the idea was mentioned for a second AvP mainly down to the fact that their is no intrest by fox in getting a good script writer in.With no decent script their is no chance of a good movie. I think we all know that we are never going to see the quality of the alien or predator series again. While the script is good for alien 5 and cameron and scott have shown intrest( a while ago now) Fox are never going to greenlight the movies (Alien 5/ Predator 3) down to the budget that would be needed especially for Alien 5. Well here's hoping to be proven wrong in my guess of no Alien 5 and im sure ill be posting a comment on AvPR as soon as it hits UK.
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Ultimate-Predalien on Dec 31, 2007, 06:36:02 PM
I enjoyed the film a lot as well as many others on the site, Yeah the predalien vs predator maquettes are pretty sick, I got one for christmas, the figures are insane.......       :)  
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Mr.Hyde on Dec 31, 2007, 07:53:24 PM
Dispite the negative reviews and how bad the story sounded,i had to see it.I couldnt call myself a fan if i didnt.All i wanted to see was Wolf killing the predalien and giving his victory scream but no they had to screw it up.   :(  
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Craig on Dec 31, 2007, 10:28:06 PM
That was an interesting read
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: movie_godzilla on Dec 31, 2007, 10:48:08 PM
I also don't hate it, Love it!!! Its not the best so far (lets wait for an 3rd in Space   ;)  ) but Lightyears better than Pauls Shitty first one  Keep up the Good work Brothers hope to see you Guys make an third one, with Space Marines   ;D  
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: YAUTJA on Dec 31, 2007, 11:07:05 PM
are there more fight scenes than what was shown in the trailers, and was 'the roof top battle' any good? does wolfe use the glove much?
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: xenoforge on Jan 01, 2008, 12:56:58 AM
This movie is terrible, simply put. Take Dawsons Creek (TV-Series) a number of Teenager Horror Movies (I know what you did lastsummer, Scream etc.) and combine them with the two most iconic contemporary movie monsters. What you get is a  deformed abomination with no interesting story, annoying characters (pizza boy ? hello ?) and some poorly choreographed action scenes. This shows that the Brothers Strause should stay out of movies and continue their FX work. They are simply no directors. Even comparing this Mess with the original movies is heresy.   :-\  
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: SHREK on Jan 01, 2008, 12:57:03 AM
somthin off topic...what happens to this site once the movie has died down in like a month?
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Axlotl on Jan 01, 2008, 01:40:26 AM
LOL anyone see the weekend figures? AVP:R tanked. Opened in 6th place. 10 mil.
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: atomic punk on Jan 01, 2008, 01:59:00 AM
seen avp-r last night.it was ok.pred.was cool ass hell.aliens moved to slow.never would give you time to react to what there going to do.also the acting sucked.i am a big pred.fan.wolf would have signal for more help because it got out of hand.could not contain.what was that dork doing with his weapon,pred.would have got that back in 3 seconds.alien out of the pred.never would have happened anyway.preds.would have seen that soon as they go the body back and took it out of the young pred.and had in it contained.   ???  
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: SHREK on Jan 01, 2008, 01:59:49 AM
yer i saw that Axlotl, i was quite disaponited but not surprised    :(  
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Deco on Jan 01, 2008, 03:08:00 AM
God this movie was trash
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: YAUTJA on Jan 01, 2008, 03:19:56 AM
Deco, cud u answer my question above? no.39
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Rafael S. on Jan 01, 2008, 05:45:10 AM
Colin, Are you guys planning to make a lighten and extended DVD for A V P R some day?
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Gort Pred on Jan 01, 2008, 06:16:47 AM
Alot of ppl here who hate and HAVE to give reasons really suck. It seems like there forcing ppl who like it to hate it. It also seems like most of the wanna-be critics just read the bad reviews and use what they said against it. Making us seem like there smart enough to think of that all on there own. AVPR was a great movie. What makes me laugh are the ppl that talk about how bad it is to compare AVPR to the old ones. Lol  Some one even had to beat someone who was a fan of the comics and say what they like is crap. Are you kidding? lol thats funny. He just had to beat the person to that. Now all of you who hate are calling yourselfs the true fans. Lol and your also acting like Alien and Predator are the only movies ever made. I think the ones that like it are the true fans. Wouldn't true fans like anything alien and predator casue they respect it so much? No? Well I guess I'm the only person who respescts anything Alien, Predator made huh?  You hatters make me sick....laugh too lol You all think you know stuff. Atlest I'm not going around telling ppl what I think is a fact.
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: SamWieszKto on Jan 01, 2008, 07:13:46 AM
This movie was so bad. Only 90 minutes. Look at "Aliens" -Directors Cut version (160 minutes of great movie) -at least they have some characters out there. Second film about Aliens still kick ass.  BTW: I think that AVP1 was great. AVP2 maybe will be better if someone do some more sequences and awesome special effects in fighting scenes. Damn 3 years of waiting for the sequel goes for a waste.  Please do not film AVP3. It cant be good if the first 2 movies was so bad.
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: SHREK on Jan 01, 2008, 07:23:23 AM
@ GORT PRED : now if evryone loved this movie for example say ppl like me, Deco and Axlot all said this was a great movie then you wouldnt say that we didnt no what we are talkin about,   i dont h8 the movie, i couldnt wait for it to come out, but im also going to be honest.....it was pretty bad, and the vast majority of fans who have seen it also agree...
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: bueee on Jan 01, 2008, 09:21:10 AM
SamWieszKto  aliens and predators are NOT about "fights", you moron.
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Gort Pred on Jan 01, 2008, 09:21:16 AM
@ SHREK: Now if everyone loved it, then I would have nothing bad to say now would I. I didn't say everyone doesn’t know what there talking about. I was just talking about the ppl that hate this thing like they have to. Like there's nothing out there to hate. There plenty out there to hate. Like Bush, or The Dark Knight. We all remember AVPR is coming out with an Unrated DVD and it’s meant to be longer right? I do. I was just talking about how funny it is to have these ppl run around seeming like there forcing even ppl who like it to hate it. That’s funny and a lil cruel to me. That’s like you showing me your fav movie. You love it. You keep on talking about it and talking about it. And you get the chance to show me and I'm laughing threw it. I'm talking threw it. I'm telling how much I think you were joking about how good it is. YOU DON"T DO THAT! Unless you’re an asshole. And I’ve seen a lot on here. I don’t force ppl to love, like or hate movies I love like or hate. I just hate when ppl go around doing that, and just repeating what they read in a review. There all happy and that critics agree with them. They can’t stop bitching. Stop bitching. I find it funny that ppl that hate it still come here to talk about how much they hate it. You all have friends (I hope so) to talk about how much you hate it with.
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Joker on Jan 01, 2008, 09:22:36 AM
Shrek, I agree with Gort. I love this movie. Who gives a f**k what ppl think. So fans don't like it. So critics don't like it. I do. I'm not allowed to tell ppl (who like it) that I love it.
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: bueeee on Jan 01, 2008, 09:24:53 AM
"I find it funny that ppl that hate it still come here to talk about how much they hate it."  oh, "he finds it funny". so stop smoking marihuana, enough of reasonless fun for you.   who will tell people what to think about the movie? you? heh.
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Joker on Jan 01, 2008, 09:26:08 AM
Who here is a TRUE fan and likes it or loves it?!?!?!?!?!!?  I love it.   And bueee, it is all about fights if it's Aliens VS Predator. Thats all I want atlest. In stand alone movies, I want what Aliens and Predator gave us. But if there in one movie together, then all I want is to watch them kill eachother.
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Gort Pred on Jan 01, 2008, 09:28:10 AM
bueee? What the hell crawled in your mom and f**ked her so bad that you have to think I smoke. I don't do that stuff. I never saw you on here telling ppl what to do. So whats your problom?
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: AVPR!!!!! on Jan 01, 2008, 09:29:37 AM
bueee! Your a lil fag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Everyone here is a fag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: atomic punk on Jan 01, 2008, 09:37:44 AM
yah,some say they are fans but they hate the movie.i myself thaught it could have been much much better.on that note hay collin when is avp-3 gonna come out?love the@##@ng wolf pred.
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Gort Pred on Jan 01, 2008, 09:44:18 AM
To ATOMIC PUNK: Yeah I know. I hate it when ppl do that. "I'm a fan, but Aliens Vs Predator Requiem sucked" Durrrrr duhhhhh....EHRRRRR!!!! lol  And I have the same ques Collin. When's AVP3!?!?!  Wolf Pred was the best Pred out there
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Guest on Jan 01, 2008, 10:16:27 AM
Now what was do damn bad that You hateers bash this movie. What the title tells You? That it is about ALIENS AND PREDATOR, so stop bitching about how bad or low or whatever the acting of humans were. I dont give a f**k, Pred and Alien FX and Acting was FLAWLESS and that what pleased me, my friends and audience, at least in Poland ad the premiere screening. I am a fan of the P and A monsters not humans. What did U expect from Fox and budget that low? If U tak that under consideradion AVPR was a f**kn masterpiece. Strauses handled the action parts perfectly, u can see they are FANS! that know how to present the creatures. I've got tears in my eyes when I saw how excellent the Pred and Aliens were presented as creatures. That's what counted for me, a die hard fan of the creatuers, not a die hard fan of the scripts, as all U haters.
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Guest on Jan 01, 2008, 10:20:44 AM
It is as I said it a couple of months ago, all the little retarded shits that bash this movie remind me of football fans. When the team is on top, everybodys happy, when theres sometning wrong, team struggles, TEAM FANS are the first ones to destroy, humiliate it. Thats what I see here. Fight FOX, not Strauses U morons.
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: YAUTJA on Jan 01, 2008, 10:24:18 AM
ok, i jst saw it, i was realy dreading it after the negative comments......but i actualy realy liked it, i can totaly understand when people say its more a predator fan movie ( which im not complaining at), coz wolfe was ace! so was chet! evry scene with her was gr8 and the removing the mask scene was awesum.
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Guest on Jan 01, 2008, 10:30:39 AM
And bueee, ur just sad. No counter agruments, everybody must be drunkadrs, stoned lowlifes, and U handle the most pure truth. Advocating not to see the movie is also a state of mental retardation. I believe everybody have a right to see the movie and judge for themselves if what they saw satisfies their tastes. The movie was much much much better then what I thought about It after I read ur retarded comments about how is "sucks". If "sucks" is all U haters can say then kiss my butt cheeks, I'm off to see it for the second time.
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Gort Pred on Jan 01, 2008, 10:32:06 AM
YAUTJA and nudzi.....I love both of you lol  You get it. Your the true fans I wanted to see on here. Esp, you nudzi. Your 100% correct. I didn't go to see humans with good talent. I went to see the alien and predator movie we should of gotten back in 2004. Still as the respectful fan I am, AVP is still one of my top alien, predator movies, but AVPR was better    :)    I will be one of the few to say this, I loved all 8 movies.   YAUTJA...what was your fav scene ?????
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Guest on Jan 01, 2008, 10:33:33 AM
Exactly Yautia, that is what im telling. The negative comments on this board are dreadful, not the movie itself. Movie, considering the conditions was a mastefpiece.
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: YAUTJA on Jan 01, 2008, 10:44:09 AM
my fav scene....i dunno, theres so many gr8 ones, i realy like the sewer scene where wolfe activates the glove and punches through the floor! and powerplant scene where the alien and the cloaked pred were stalking each other... in fact, the more i think of this movie, i loved it.
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Guest on Jan 01, 2008, 10:44:36 AM
Thx Gore Pred, I'm really ready to defend the Strauses on that, I won't allow them to be eaten by a horde of Alien nuthuggers. I really saw that they KNOW how to present the creatures. the aristocratic, a bit "geyish" moves of the predator, combined with his ruthlesness and brutalism were a direct, "lossless" copy of P1 pred. I simply loved the little details I picked up from the previous movies, the Strauses (and fans) were also able to pick up and admire.
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Gort Pred on Jan 01, 2008, 10:56:20 AM
I saw the same stuff nudzi. The part when Wolf comes out of the water. The part at the plant when Wolf is searching for the alien and the red triangle is scattering like in P1. Stuff like that. And I will defend the bros. with you. I loved how they showed us threw the movie how much they love both Pred and Alien. They don't love one over the other, they love both. I heard James Cameron loved AVP. I wonder what he thought about AVPR and the fact that they used his alien designs. I wonder what AVP 3 has instore.
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: YAUTJA on Jan 01, 2008, 10:59:10 AM
yea nudzi, the actual creatures performances were fantastic, from the pred and aliens movement and characters to the on-screen time they have face to face i.e. fights, stalking etc.
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Guest on Jan 01, 2008, 11:01:43 AM
Rock on man, I can see that U think and feel exactly like me. I mean, I work night shifts usually, I watch P1, P2 and Alien, Aliens, A3 almost every night at work when its calm and nobody bugs me :-) . So these little touches in AVPR were really important to me. Great that there are people who feel exactly like me.
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: YAUTJA on Jan 01, 2008, 11:07:26 AM
true fans
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Gort Pred on Jan 01, 2008, 11:11:13 AM
True fans all the way my friend
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Guest on Jan 01, 2008, 11:14:21 AM
Happy new Year my friends, I can see that no matter what country Ur from, if Ur a fan ur a fan for life !!  Thanks for support Yautia and Gort Pred and of courese STRAUSES for bronging us a fresh wave in the AvP world :)
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: YAUTJA on Jan 01, 2008, 11:30:30 AM
happy new year guys, btw, wot country are you from?
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Guest on Jan 01, 2008, 11:39:49 AM
Poland :) Now drinking at work :)  Drunk 2 liters by of vodka by myself but still quite sober, damn.
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: YAUTJA on Jan 01, 2008, 11:45:33 AM
well its 23:41 here in UK, party's on...drinks all round! and us geordys know how 2 drink!
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: YAUTJA on Jan 01, 2008, 12:02:28 PM
well, its 00:01, happy new year every one!
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: atomic punk on Jan 01, 2008, 12:58:38 PM
to all the fans of these movies.happy new year.play it cool,drive safe drink hardy.hey gort pred.thanks for the response.maybe we will see a pred.3 movie soon or aliens 5 whtever come first.big pred fan though.   8)  
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Hell-Scorpion on Jan 01, 2008, 02:19:55 PM
  >:D   Who in the HELL could hate this movie? Can't wait for AVP 3!
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: vader1231231 on Jan 01, 2008, 02:54:57 PM
I dont get why all of you guys keep on bitching about paul anderson and the first avp. The first one wasn't that bad. I mean at least it created a scence of claustrophobia, like the first alien film. Also, it wasn't andersons fault that the movie was choppy. It was all fox's fault. They hacked everything up at the last minute. I am 100% sure that if AvP 1 had been given more time and not have been cut down at the last minute, it would've been better. Another thing is, at least the first avp still left the aliens and preds with their dignety. They both were still mercyless killers. I think that avpr really f**ked up both franchises with it's lack of atmosphere, ripley and newt wannabbees, and excessive gore.
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: vader1231231 on Jan 01, 2008, 02:57:42 PM
I dont get why all of you guys keep on bitching about paul anderson and the first avp. The first one wasn't that bad. I mean at least it created a scence of claustrophobia, like the first alien film. Also, it wasn't andersons fault that the movie was choppy. It was all fox's fault. They hacked everything up at the last minute. I am 100% sure that if AvP 1 had been given more time and not have been cut down at the last minute, it would've been better. Another thing is, at least the first avp still left the aliens and preds with their dignety. They both were still mercyless killers. I think that avpr really f**ked up both franchises with it's lack of atmosphere, ripley and newt wannabbees, and excessive gore.
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Gort Pred on Jan 01, 2008, 03:13:10 PM
Well vader, you don't think when AVPR ended, it didn't tell ppl that Aliens and Predators are badasses? From everything I saw, Aliens are more evil then before. Preds are less merciful. Don't get me wrong, as the fan I am, AVP was pretty good, but Fox didn't chop it up as much as you think. Paul took shots out that I don't think he should of. Like there was a fight between Grid and Scar that I would like to of seen, considering the fact that Gris killed Scar's friends, or brothers. Yeah, AVP had things from Alien 1, but AVPR wasn't trying to be like Alien. It was trying to be it's onwn thing, and got major influence from Aliens and Predator. Those are Collins fav and then comes Alien. Thats how I look at it too, Predator and Aliens were my fav, but I still love em all. You do give a good point though and I repsect that. And I don't think theres been talk about Anderson since we heard of AVPR was being made. I never bitched about him before.
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Gort Pred on Jan 01, 2008, 03:15:52 PM
Anyway, Happy New Year atomic punk, YAUTJA, and nudzi. I'm thankful the brothers left us a great AVP movie just in time for the end of the year.   Bring on AVP3  Suggestions for names,   Aliens vs Predators Extinction (3xtinction) AVP-3     ;D   I like it hahaha
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Bio Mech Hunter on Jan 02, 2008, 07:04:20 AM
I saw AVP:R twice and am planning to go again with a friend. Honestly, I don't hate it. I rather liked it, but was very disappointed mainly for the blatant fan worshipping of Wolf and demonizing the aliens as stupidly weak and mindless. The film was unrealistic and unfaithful in many respects. It did get quite a few things right, though. Which was somewhat relieving.  Like it's been said before, the first AVP film was horrendously cut and butchered from Anderson's original intention. He's gotten an extremely bad rap for something that was out of his hands. And considering we're specifically discussing Fox Studios here, of all film companies, you'd think we'd already be familiar with with this kind of crap they're constantly pulling. There was some damn good stuff that was ommitted, re-cut or re-filmed for the final release. And for the "Unrated Edition", they re-inserted barely a fraction of the edited material.   >:(    I recall many comments George Lucas made about having to battle Fox with getting Star Wars done the way he wanted.
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: bluemonday on Jan 02, 2008, 03:37:45 PM
AvPR was trying to be its own thing?  HAHA!  Every single scene was just an homage to a previous film.  There was no originality whatsoever.
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Deco on Jan 03, 2008, 02:04:56 AM
YAUTJA | 31 Dec 2007 15:1846 Deco, cud u answer my question above? no.39   Hi Yautja sorry I havent gotten back ive been enjoying the festivities!  I would say that there are more battles but the lighting is really terrible. I really hated this movie guys, im a die hard fan and thats why I hated it. Now thats not to say that i didnt think there were elements of the movie i liked. The Predator for instance, he was nailed, the character, the way he moved. Whenever he was on screen it felt like a Predator movie and that was great to see. The script was just trash. Hitchcock once said, 'you can make a bad film out of a great script but you cant make a great film out of a bad one....'
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Deco on Jan 03, 2008, 07:05:40 AM
Joker,  Just because you like everything Fox spits at you doesnt make you a TRUE fan.  A true fan is someone who considers themselves such, its for no-one else to say otherwise. No one here is telling you to dislike the movie, they are telling you how much they didnt like it themselves.  If you thought this was a great film then thats your opinion and your entitled to it.... But i will plant this seed; imagine an AVP on the same scale as lord of the rings....?
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Joker on Jan 03, 2008, 07:52:39 AM
Well Deco, I say TURE fan becasue I kinda have the same feelings as Gort Pred. I respect everything alien and Predator. I may have my differences with AVP 1 and AR, but that doesn't mean I hate them. I love all of them. Alien, Aliens, Alien 3, Alien Ressurection, Predator, Predator 2, AVP Alien vs Predator and Aliens vs Predator Requiem.   Besides I don't see what was so bad with the lighting. I saw everything very clear. I can describe every fight. I saw everything.   And if alot of theaters got bad pictures, just imagin if this film makes it to Blue-Ray
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Joker on Jan 03, 2008, 07:57:46 AM
And I would hate if AVP was on the same scale as LOTR. Too damn long. Ppl would go mad. There's only so much you can do with a Predator and an Alien without  dragging on. Theres only so many green eminems a man can have  before he says f**k I want a red one! I like LOTR but I hate how long they are. You can't possible make AVP as long as that. And if you were talking about it being epic....well I don't know. Maybe I would like that, but If I like the movie what do I have to complaine about and wish what scale it was on.     I think we should get an AVP3 and end it after that. We can all live now with 2 pred movies, 3 AVP movies, and 4 Alien movie. No more.
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: msn_recon_marine on Jan 03, 2008, 10:21:12 AM
I have to say I truely enjoyed the movie it was quite the story. I do agree that the lighting was bad but you have to look at where they are fighting too.  I found that they did a good job of protraying how dark and evil the aliens are. I also have to say Wolf is badass.  I can see where some wouldnt like it but if you are a fan of either series you should like it.  I truly hope that they make another one that has a little less of the human story and more of the battle between them.   Of course I would love to see a Predator 3 movie. ( Die hard Predator fan for many years)  I have all the Alien movies, comics, novels, and the same with Predator  and AvP.  I am not to picky when it comes to these guys I just love to see them on the big screen.
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Gort Pred on Jan 03, 2008, 12:28:40 PM
Same here msn_recon_marine. I have everything that has the title Alien and Predator and Aliens vs Predator. Played all the games, owned a lot of the toys too    :D   have the comics and love them, books are really good, and of corse I have all the movies. I'm not picky at all. Joker's right, I respect and love everything Alien and Prefator.
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: rj804 on Jan 03, 2008, 08:37:56 PM
avpr is a watchable movie (i've seen it twice already) just needed quality actors to give it more impact   ;)  
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: atomic punk on Jan 04, 2008, 01:05:05 PM
hey,does anyone here remember how in the first alien movie how he was trying to inpregnate the female?because there was no queen alien to lay eggs.aliens move very quick would neve give ou a chance to think.what was that dork doing with the preds weapon?wolf would have got that back in 3 seconds.   ???  
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Stamos on Jan 05, 2008, 12:48:46 AM
I guess the preds on the ship were just absolute retards....the humans would've picked up the xenomorph in quarantine....why wouldn't the preds if they had superior tech?  That would go against canon wouldn't it? They have Xenomorph vision but somehow missed an alien in a dead pred?  That's heresy to the Predator race. And of course it was outlined by that scriptwriter who I hope has a cameo on AVP3 where his head is blasted off by a shoulder canon, leaving just his lower mandible intact.  Something like the graveyard scene which was cut from AVPR
Title: Re: VFXWorld AvPR Article
Post by: Joker on Jan 05, 2008, 08:25:49 AM
Well wait a second. Predators are not retarded. Second of all the Preds were not wearing masks. Every single pred was not wearing one. Only the ones on the scout ship in AVPR. Thirdly, don't blame Shane for everything. Paul helped write the first one too. Shane wrote the whole requiem movie. Now I think Shane knows what he's doing, esp. when it comes to writing things people can do. That’s a major thing in screenplay writing. Paul just took Shane’s bloody AVP1 script and made it to his liking more and just made Aliens 10% stronger then normal. Fourthly...why are we on the first one? Haha