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Title: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: felix on Sep 30, 2019, 03:14:27 AM
Coming May 26, 2020.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1789094410/ref=sr_1_20?keywords=titan+books&qid=1569813133&s=books&sr=1-20

No synopsis as yet.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Samhain13 on Sep 30, 2019, 04:28:23 AM
So the Predator EU is giving some signs of life. Took them long enough.  :P

The guy that wrote Sea of Sorrows and The Predator prequel? Okay. I can dig that. SOS was my favorite from that trilogy and I quite liked the portrayal of the creature in his Predator novel, that would have been a better movie than The Predator. This got my blessing.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: felix on Sep 30, 2019, 04:50:25 AM
Hope they'll be a Mass Paperback version though.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Sep 30, 2019, 08:14:46 AM
Fantastic news! I loved Hunters and Hunted, it was far better than the movie IMHO. Very happy to see we're still getting more. Gives me hopes that the next anthology is going to happen.


That said, am not being taken to a product page via the link.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: HuDaFuK on Sep 30, 2019, 09:03:03 AM
For a minute I got confused and though this was the guy who wrote the lacklustre The Predator novelisation, then I remembered he did the prequel, which I really enjoyed. Will keep an eye on this! Glad the novels are still ticking over.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: TheBATMAN on Sep 30, 2019, 11:53:59 AM
I'd be wary about this one. Sadly James Moore appears to be quite ill at the moment. From his fundraising page im not sure he is even writing at the moment.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: felix on Sep 30, 2019, 12:57:58 PM
Hope he gets well soon. My best wishes to him.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Wysps on Sep 30, 2019, 04:15:14 PM
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Sep 30, 2019, 11:53:59 AM
I'd be wary about this one. Sadly James Moore appears to be quite ill at the moment. From his fundraising page im not sure he is even writing at the moment.

That's too bad  :( Aside from the novel, I do hope he recovers. The fundraiser description sounds optimistic.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Xiggz456 on Oct 01, 2019, 02:38:10 AM
First and foremost I wish James a speedy recovery. But here's to hoping he writes another solid Predator novel as well.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 01, 2019, 07:44:58 AM
I believe Jim is still trying to work despite his fight:

QuoteHe has a lot of books of his own left to write (including some for which he's currently on deadline), but at the moment, cancer's getting in the way, and he needs our help.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/please-help-author-james-a-moore?

Here's the fundraising if anyone else wants to contribute. Every little helps, even if it's just the cost of a book.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: HuDaFuK on Oct 01, 2019, 10:32:41 AM
I had no idea he was so seriously ill. Wishing him a speedy recovery.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Oct 01, 2019, 04:00:30 PM
Wow, that's awful to hear. Absolutely wishing him well and a full recovery.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: The Old One on Oct 02, 2019, 05:01:28 AM
Hoping for the best, his The Predator Prequel was truly superb.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: felix on Oct 14, 2019, 05:21:30 AM
Synopsis from Amazon.

"An action-packed prequel to the new Illfonic video game PREDATOR: HUNTING GROUNDS - revealing deeply buried secrets in the battle between the ultimate hunters and their human prey.

This official prequel novel leads into the new Playstation 4 video game from IllFonic. PREDATOR: STALKING SHADOWS is the bridge between Predator 2 and the current day continuity. U.S. Marine Scott Devlin takes on a new assignment that begins with the clean-up of a Los Angeles combat scene revealing what appears to be alien weapons and tech. His next mission, to an equatorial jungle, seems like an assault on a drug cartel until his team finds human bodies, skinned and suspended from the trees. Justifiably freaked out, Devlin digs deeper and discovers hidden truths, clandestine agencies, savage opponents... and an unexpected ally."
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Kradan on Oct 14, 2019, 08:16:09 AM
I'm excited to know there's a new Predator book coming but seiously : does everything nowadays need a prequel novel ?
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 14, 2019, 09:22:24 AM
I quite the sounds of this! I like it tying into Predator 2 like that. Especially after how much I loved Hunters and Hunted, I'm really excited for this one!
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Oct 14, 2019, 10:49:00 AM
Man... sooo seconded, Hicks!  I'm very excited about this, as well as with the notion that we might get a true follow-up to Predator 2 that many have been so desperately craving. Sorry If It Bleeds - Drug War, but you just don't measure up in my book.

Quote from: Kradan on Oct 14, 2019, 08:16:09 AM
I'm excited to know there's a new Predator book coming but seiously : does everything nowadays need a prequel novel ?

You're "excited" yet you're complaining in the same breath? Geez Kradan, what were you like as a kid on your Birthday?  I'm excited about my presents but why did I have to get so many?  :P
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Hudafook on Oct 14, 2019, 11:09:25 AM
Kudos to pic of a pred...with a fanny pack 👽😎
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Oct 14, 2019, 11:51:05 AM
Quote from: Hudafook on Oct 14, 2019, 11:09:25 AM
Kudos to pic of a pred...with a fanny pack

Bug spray... check.  Sunscreen... check. ;D
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Kradan on Oct 14, 2019, 12:10:03 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 14, 2019, 10:49:00 AM
You're "excited" yet you're complaining in the same breath?

I'm not complaining - it just seems to me they do prequel novels for the sake of it, not 'cause game really needs prequel story . But again I'm excited there any new Predator book coming out. They don't do that frequently these days, huh ?

Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 14, 2019, 10:49:00 AM
Geez Kradan, what were you like as a kid on your Birthday?  I'm excited about my presents but why did I have to get so many?  :P

:D
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Wysps on Oct 14, 2019, 01:52:54 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 14, 2019, 11:51:05 AM
Quote from: Hudafook on Oct 14, 2019, 11:09:25 AM
Kudos to pic of a pred...with a fanny pack

Bug spray... check.  Sunscreen... check. ;D

It's totally utilitarian.  I can see it  :laugh:
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Oct 14, 2019, 02:09:13 PM
 :D

Quote from: Kradan on Oct 14, 2019, 12:10:03 PM
I'm not complaining - it just seems to me they do prequel novels for the sake of it, not 'cause game really needs prequel story . But again I'm excited there any new Predator book coming out. They don't do that frequently these days, huh ?

Well when it's EU, isn't it all technically prequels or sequels?  ;)

But yeah, the IP Holders do love those tie-ins because the fans just eat them up. Not only will we buy the Predator Hunting Grounds game, but we'll buy the prequel novel, new associated pop figures, sugar cereal, and even buy and wear the Hunting Grounds socks too!  ;D
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Xiggz456 on Oct 14, 2019, 03:06:31 PM
Synopsis sounds good to me! Can't wait!

Now if Titan will give us two more omnibus with the DH press Predator novels (that I've never read) I'll truly be a happy camper.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: SuperiorIronman on Oct 14, 2019, 07:56:07 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Oct 14, 2019, 08:16:09 AM
I'm excited to know there's a new Predator book coming but seiously : does everything nowadays need a prequel novel ?

Well Predator can go anywhere and given the last film takes place in 2018, even if it wasn't meant to be a tie-in to the game it's still a prequel because it takes place before the last film in the timeline. As well as since the Predators had been arriving for centuries if not more, a lot of stories would fall into the prequel camp inherently.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Samhain13 on Oct 14, 2019, 09:19:05 PM
I just hope I don't see any The Predator references.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Wweyland on Oct 14, 2019, 10:07:54 PM
Loved Hunters and Hunted so this is great news.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Oct 14, 2019, 10:25:52 PM
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Oct 14, 2019, 07:56:07 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Oct 14, 2019, 08:16:09 AM
I'm excited to know there's a new Predator book coming but seiously : does everything nowadays need a prequel novel ?

Well Predator can go anywhere and given the last film takes place in 2018, even if it wasn't meant to be a tie-in to the game it's still a prequel because it takes place before the last film in the timeline. As well as since the Predators had been arriving for centuries if not more, a lot of stories would fall into the prequel camp inherently.

Hmm. That sounds very wise. I wonder if anyone else mentioned that before in this thread...

Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 14, 2019, 02:09:13 PM
Well when it's EU, isn't it all technically prequels or sequels?  ;)

(https://66.media.tumblr.com/64352324ad3cd1dd024ec53f1fdf2813/tumblr_pahhahuDGy1se0jzho1_500.gif)

;D

Quote from: Samhain13 on Oct 14, 2019, 09:19:05 PM
I just hope I don't see any The Predator references.

Considering Stargazer was mentioned in the game's trailer, I fear it might be inevitable.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 15, 2019, 09:29:32 AM
I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with Stargazer. It was just another iteration of OWLF. Like most of the aspects of The Predator, it was just in how they handled it. Given Jim also wrote the only real backstory and competent Stargazer we've seen in Hunters and Hunted, I expect we'll see more of them in this too. And I'm fine with that.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: HuDaFuK on Oct 16, 2019, 04:20:29 PM
Predator 2 sequel. Nice.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Still Collating... on Oct 16, 2019, 08:05:30 PM
This I might be interested in getting. I liked his work in Sea of Sorrows.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Xenomorphine on Oct 16, 2019, 09:14:48 PM
I'm sure there have been many hunts in LA, over the years.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Katanu on Oct 23, 2019, 12:13:56 PM
I'm glad there's a new novel coming, I have no problems if Stargazer is incorporated into the story, "Hunters and Hunted" and "Hunters II" proved that you can make a great Predator story using elements of The Predator. But please, none of that "Predators want our DNA and they want to move to Earth" stuff, I just want our regular Predators that comes to hunt and collect trophies, but since it's the same author of Hunters and Hunted, I think we're good.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: The Old One on Feb 02, 2020, 02:21:04 PM
No update available yet.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Feb 02, 2020, 03:03:23 PM
Quote from: Katanu on Oct 23, 2019, 12:13:56 PM
I'm glad there's a new novel coming, I have no problems if Stargazer is incorporated into the story, "Hunters and Hunted" and "Hunters II" proved that you can make a great Predator story using elements of The Predator. But please, none of that "Predators want our DNA and they want to move to Earth" stuff, I just want our regular Predators that comes to hunt and collect trophies, but since it's the same author of Hunters and Hunted, I think we're good.

I honestly don't think they'll ever pick up that thread again.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: The Old One on Feb 03, 2020, 01:21:16 PM
Good riddance then.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Wysps on Feb 03, 2020, 09:56:47 PM
Yeah. I think there are many of us that would breathe a sigh of relief if they just let that go...
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: The Old One on Feb 04, 2020, 12:44:04 AM
Yes all of us.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 04, 2020, 08:16:50 AM
I can't imagine them keeping to that following the response to it.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: HuDaFuK on Feb 04, 2020, 09:21:32 AM
Annoys me no end that that was yet another thing forced in during the reshoots. So we nearly got the film without that b.s.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Feb 04, 2020, 01:53:26 PM
I would have been quite fine if hybridization was limited to a few outcast Predators explaining Super Predator mutations, sports hunters looking for an edge. To me, that idea has merit. But a 11 foot CG Predator chasing autism unfortunately went just too far.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: The Old One on Feb 04, 2020, 02:18:11 PM
It's just the suggestion of all of them doing it, calling it evolution, and the process itself being absolute nonsense.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Wweyland on Feb 14, 2020, 09:30:18 PM
Any news on the cover of this?
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Katanu on Feb 14, 2020, 11:12:54 PM
So far only the generic "not final cover".
I hope the final cover is not just another Wolf Predator.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Feb 19, 2020, 11:53:05 AM
We have an Audiobook!

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41tgMMztPrL.jpg)

https://www.amazon.com/Predator-Stalking-Shadows/dp/B08375NHNY
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: TheSailingRabbit on Feb 19, 2020, 12:16:36 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 19, 2020, 11:53:05 AM
We have an Audiobook!

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41tgMMztPrL.jpg)

https://www.amazon.com/Predator-Stalking-Shadows/dp/B08375NHNY

I almost squealed. My half-asleep brain thought that said "Mark Rolston."
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 19, 2020, 12:28:53 PM
Ah, Mark got involved too. I hope that's not a bad sign in regards to James' health struggle.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Feb 19, 2020, 12:59:43 PM
My initial reaction was perhaps Mark was just doing the reading / audio recording, which he seemingly has done before, but yeah, that's usually for his own books. Most likely this is just wishful thinking by me. Hopefully he's okay.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: HuDaFuK on Feb 20, 2020, 10:08:33 AM
Yeah, first I'm hearing of Mark being involved. Hope Moore's OK.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Feb 20, 2020, 11:18:20 AM
Maybe, hopefully, it's not over health? Christopher Golden was joined by Mark too and Golden's health has been fine as far as I can tell.

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81MTn%2B7coHL._AC_SL1500_.jpg)
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 20, 2020, 12:51:50 PM
Mark was brought on to deal with rewrites to that following all the reshoots because of Golden's availability. The concerns for this being about Jim's health is he was diagnosed with cancer recently, and perhaps Mark being brought on because of any issues meaning Jim isn't able to write atm.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Feb 20, 2020, 01:07:41 PM
Ah, damn. The reshoots. Well I got nothing then.

Yeah, I know about Moore's diagnosis and wish him the best. This is more me playing mental gymnastics trying to work-in a possibility that this was always the plan versus an artistic vision possibly being compromised.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: felix on Mar 31, 2020, 02:06:52 PM
(https://bnccatalist.ca/images/catImages/title/544405/9781789094411_tnmd.jpg)
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Mar 31, 2020, 02:18:26 PM
Quote from: felix on Mar 31, 2020, 02:06:52 PM
(https://bnccatalist.ca/images/catImages/title/544405/9781789094411_tnmd.jpg)

Nice find felix! Where did you locate that brother? Amazon US is still showing the temporary cover.

On the cover itself. It's okay, I guess? The soldier isn't in a very dynamic position. His gun is pointed too much to the right. And are those supposed to be bullets the soldier fired? Because artistically, it looks more like those bullets are coming towards the soldier, versus away.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 31, 2020, 02:32:16 PM
It's a snipped version of the new wallpaper from Illfonic.

(https://media.playstation.com/is/image/SCEA/predator-hunting-grounds-desktop-wallpaper-01-1920x1080-en-us-24mar20?$native_xxl_nt$)


And the cover can be found here: https://bnccatalist.ca/viewtitle.aspx?ean=9781789094411


It's as good a screenshot as any to use, just a shame about the odd bullet placement given the cropping.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: HuDaFuK on Mar 31, 2020, 02:42:56 PM
Wouldn't be the first time people have lost their shit during a Predator attack and ended up blasting their own.

Gold Tooth's cronies in Predator 2 anyone?
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Mar 31, 2020, 02:50:23 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 31, 2020, 02:32:16 PM
It's a snipped version of the new wallpaper from Illfonic.

(https://media.playstation.com/is/image/SCEA/predator-hunting-grounds-desktop-wallpaper-01-1920x1080-en-us-24mar20?$native_xxl_nt$)


And the cover can be found here: https://bnccatalist.ca/viewtitle.aspx?ean=9781789094411


It's as good a screenshot as any to use, just a shame about the odd bullet placement given the cropping.

Ahh... I missed the wallpaper announcement. And the full image looks better and makes more sense across the board now. Yeah, the unfortunate cropping makes it odd.

Quote from: HuDaFuK on Mar 31, 2020, 02:42:56 PM
Wouldn't be the first time people have lost their shit during a Predator attack and ended up blasting their own.

Gold Tooth's cronies in Predator 2 anyone?

Except for blasting the one posse member who was already assumingly killed netted on the wall, they don't accidentally shoot each other.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Wysps on Mar 31, 2020, 03:39:53 PM
Quote from: felix on Mar 31, 2020, 02:06:52 PM
(https://bnccatalist.ca/images/catImages/title/544405/9781789094411_tnmd.jpg)

I might have bad taste  :laugh: But I like the cover. I think the Predator looks great.

I'm looking forward to seeing how the book showcases Ms. Predator and how it'll differ from the Rage War portrayals.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Mar 31, 2020, 03:56:35 PM
Quote from: Wysps on Mar 31, 2020, 03:39:53 PM
Quote from: felix on Mar 31, 2020, 02:06:52 PM
(https://bnccatalist.ca/images/catImages/title/544405/9781789094411_tnmd.jpg)

I might have bad taste  :laugh: But I like the cover. I think the Predator looks great.

I'm looking forward to seeing how the book showcases Ms. Predator and how it'll differ from the Rage War portrayals.

So what if no one else likes The Deadliest of the Species except you and me!  You have good taste!!   ;D

Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Wysps on Mar 31, 2020, 04:33:22 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 31, 2020, 03:56:35 PM
Quote from: Wysps on Mar 31, 2020, 03:39:53 PM
Quote from: felix on Mar 31, 2020, 02:06:52 PM
(https://bnccatalist.ca/images/catImages/title/544405/9781789094411_tnmd.jpg)

I might have bad taste  :laugh: But I like the cover. I think the Predator looks great.

I'm looking forward to seeing how the book showcases Ms. Predator and how it'll differ from the Rage War portrayals.

So what if no one else likes The Deadliest of the Species except you and me!  You have good taste!!   ;D



Haha  :D That's a hill I'm prepared to die on!

(https://media3.giphy.com/media/CWHgDc1Jw3edq/giphy.gif?cid=19f5b51a18098bb6792cf82ee422980f254f68e02bf19a50&rid=giphy.gif)

Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: felix on Mar 31, 2020, 09:42:11 PM
Here's to hoping we get more Predator books.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Mar 31, 2020, 11:00:46 PM
Quote from: Wysps on Mar 31, 2020, 04:33:22 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 31, 2020, 03:56:35 PM
Quote from: Wysps on Mar 31, 2020, 03:39:53 PM
Quote from: felix on Mar 31, 2020, 02:06:52 PM
(https://bnccatalist.ca/images/catImages/title/544405/9781789094411_tnmd.jpg)

I might have bad taste  :laugh: But I like the cover. I think the Predator looks great.

I'm looking forward to seeing how the book showcases Ms. Predator and how it'll differ from the Rage War portrayals.

So what if no one else likes The Deadliest of the Species except you and me!  You have good taste!!   ;D



Haha  :D That's a hill I'm prepared to die on!

(https://media3.giphy.com/media/CWHgDc1Jw3edq/giphy.gif?cid=19f5b51a18098bb6792cf82ee422980f254f68e02bf19a50&rid=giphy.gif)

:laugh:

Quote from: felix on Mar 31, 2020, 09:42:11 PM
Here's to hoping we get more Predator books.

A resounding YES!!!! to that!
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: HuDaFuK on Apr 01, 2020, 08:04:37 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 31, 2020, 02:50:23 PMExcept for blasting the one posse member who was already assumingly killed netted on the wall, they don't accidentally shoot each other.

He was still screaming and twitching when he gets sprayed, and I really don't get the impression his cronies knew or cared how he was feeling when they were nailing everything in the room, him included.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Apr 01, 2020, 12:45:16 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Apr 01, 2020, 08:04:37 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 31, 2020, 02:50:23 PMExcept for blasting the one posse member who was already assumingly killed netted on the wall, they don't accidentally shoot each other.

He was still screaming and twitching when he gets sprayed, and I really don't get the impression his cronies knew or cared how he was feeling when they were nailing everything in the room, him included.

Unless dat mon can scream with his lips shut, dat mon wasn't screaming because hiz mouth was completely closed.

(https://i.ibb.co/4VqZFcY/20200401-083939.jpg)

And dat mon's body is gonna twitch when pelleted with bullets!

No I don't think this qualifies as friendly fire mon!   ;D
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: HuDaFuK on Apr 01, 2020, 03:51:34 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 01, 2020, 12:45:16 PMUnless dat mon can scream with his lips shut, dat mon wasn't screaming because hiz mouth was completely closed.

You mean like when Dutch whistles an instruction to his men in the first film despite his lips clearly not being pursed? ;)

It's a movie. The dude looks alive to me until he gets blasted. He didn't bleed out in the split second between him getting hit with the net and his pals hosing him down.

And even if he was dead - his mate's clearly still don't give a f*ck.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Apr 01, 2020, 03:58:41 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Apr 01, 2020, 03:51:34 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 01, 2020, 12:45:16 PMUnless dat mon can scream with his lips shut, dat mon wasn't screaming because hiz mouth was completely closed.

You mean like when Dutch whistles an instruction to his men in the first film despite his lips clearly not being pursed? ;)

It's a movie. The dude looks alive to me until he gets blasted. He didn't bleed out in the split second between him getting hit with the net and his pals hosing him down.

And even if he was dead - his mate's clearly still don't give a f*ck.

Did you just compare a whistle to a scream?

(https://media1.giphy.com/media/xUPGcq17EmRRoqh0FW/source.gif)

We'll just have to agree to disagree..... mon.  ;D
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: HuDaFuK on Apr 01, 2020, 04:00:33 PM
No, just pointing out the state of his lips has nothing to do with whether or not a person is making a noise in the world of movies.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Apr 01, 2020, 04:05:22 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Apr 01, 2020, 04:00:33 PM
No, just pointing out the state of his lips has nothing to do with whether or not a person is making a noise in the world of movies.

Yes, I know that, but you said "he was still screaming" not making a noise (which neither happens technically). So you keep moving the goal post on me instead of conceding the point!  :P
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Kradan on Apr 02, 2020, 07:52:23 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 31, 2020, 11:00:46 PM
Quote from: felix on Mar 31, 2020, 09:42:11 PM
Here's to hoping we get more Predator books.

A resounding YES!!!! to that!

No more untill they release digital version of South China Sea so I can read it !
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: felix on Apr 02, 2020, 11:35:28 AM
A print reprint as well.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Apr 03, 2020, 01:16:36 AM
You gents need to add Turnabout to that reprint list!  :)




Cover in high resolution:

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81aig5J0r8L._AC_SL1500_.jpg)
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Wysps on Apr 03, 2020, 02:12:14 AM
Quote from: Kradan on Apr 02, 2020, 07:52:23 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 31, 2020, 11:00:46 PM
Quote from: felix on Mar 31, 2020, 09:42:11 PM
Here's to hoping we get more Predator books.

A resounding YES!!!! to that!

No more untill they release digital version of South China Sea so I can read it !
What do fans have to do to have the privilege of laying our peepers on this? Besides being prepared to massively throw down  :'(
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: HuDaFuK on Apr 03, 2020, 07:54:54 AM
My advice would be to be patient and keep hunting.

I snagged a copy a few weeks back for a fairly reasonable price. It was still kinda expensive for a paperback, but we're talking about three times what a new one would normally go for rather than the extortionate prices it usually seems to fetch.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Wysps on Apr 03, 2020, 03:38:39 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Apr 03, 2020, 07:54:54 AM
My advice would be to be patient and keep hunting.

I snagged a copy a few weeks back for a fairly reasonable price. It was still kinda expensive for a paperback, but we're talking about three times what a new one would normally go for rather than the extortionate prices it usually seems to fetch.

That's the plan, cause these current prices are larceny  :o  How long did you have to wait before a decent opportunity presented itself?
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: HuDaFuK on Apr 04, 2020, 08:05:37 AM
I can't actually remember when I started collecting the older novels. But we're talking years rather than months :P
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: felix on Apr 04, 2020, 09:18:35 AM
Let's hope Titan Books does a omnibus compilations for the old Predator novels.

Perhaps a pertition?
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: HuDaFuK on Apr 04, 2020, 09:21:54 AM
I have wondered why they never did that with the Predator DH Press books. Seems weird that they'd do collections for the Aliens ones but stop after the Bantam books for Predator, especially as the DH Press Predator books are so much better than the Bantam ones (Forever Midnight notwithstanding).
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Apr 04, 2020, 12:37:20 PM
Quote from: felix on Apr 04, 2020, 09:18:35 AM
Let's hope Titan Books does a omnibus compilations for the old Predator novels.

Perhaps a pertition?

I'd sign it!
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: felix on Apr 05, 2020, 03:17:57 AM
I am serious about the petition. How do we go about it?
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Apr 05, 2020, 09:03:48 PM
Quote from: felix on Apr 05, 2020, 03:17:57 AM
I am serious about the petition. How do we go about it?

Change.org I guess?
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: SpaceKase on Apr 23, 2020, 07:53:04 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 31, 2020, 03:56:35 PM
Quote from: Wysps on Mar 31, 2020, 03:39:53 PM
Quote from: felix on Mar 31, 2020, 02:06:52 PM
(https://bnccatalist.ca/images/catImages/title/544405/9781789094411_tnmd.jpg)

I might have bad taste  :laugh: But I like the cover. I think the Predator looks great.

I'm looking forward to seeing how the book showcases Ms. Predator and how it'll differ from the Rage War portrayals.

So what if no one else likes The Deadliest of the Species except you and me!  You have good taste!!   ;D



You are not alone, we walk amongst you!


Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 01, 2020, 04:05:22 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Apr 01, 2020, 04:00:33 PM
No, just pointing out the state of his lips has nothing to do with whether or not a person is making a noise in the world of movies.

Yes, I know that, but you said "he was still screaming" not making a noise (which neither happens technically). So you keep moving the goal post on me instead of conceding the point!  :P

You know what? I tell you what I believe.

Shit 'Appens!
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: felix on May 10, 2020, 04:02:34 AM
Read an excerpt.

https://books.google.com.sg/books?id=9D7ZDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT193&dq=predator+stalking&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi71qjTtKjpAhUSILcAHRL7D1wQ6AEIKDAA#v=onepage&q&f=false
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Voodoo Magic on May 10, 2020, 05:48:39 PM
Quote from: felix on May 10, 2020, 04:02:34 AM
Read an excerpt.

https://books.google.com.sg/books?id=9D7ZDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT193&dq=predator+stalking&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi71qjTtKjpAhUSILcAHRL7D1wQ6AEIKDAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

Nice find felix!

I read the first two pages and......... SOLD!
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Xiggz456 on May 10, 2020, 08:12:35 PM
Really looking forward to this. After listening to the OWLF files from "Hunting Grounds" I'm especially intrigued!
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Voodoo Magic on May 11, 2020, 02:59:52 AM
Yeaahhhh buddy!
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 14, 2020, 12:05:24 PM
Apparently this has dropped early in the UK.

Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Stitch on May 14, 2020, 02:00:09 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 14, 2020, 12:05:24 PM
Apparently this has dropped early in the UK.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Happy Book Birthday to me and Jim! This is my 29th published novel. Out today! <a href="https://t.co/0CIo3H30az">https://t.co/0CIo3H30az</a></p>— Mark Morris (@MarkMorris10) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkMorris10/status/1260897367479418881?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 14, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
According to Amazon today is the official release date, so I don't know about early. However, mine still hasn't got a delivery date yet :s
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Voodoo Magic on May 14, 2020, 11:15:40 PM
Amazon to me says "This title will be released on May 26, 2020"
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 15, 2020, 07:05:51 AM
None of the linked UK stores have it in stock either.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: HuDaFuK on May 15, 2020, 08:16:12 AM
Like Hicks, I haven't been able to find anywhere actually stocking this.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: felix on May 15, 2020, 10:12:04 AM
We're still in lockdown here in Singapore. So i won't be getting this till next month.

Amazon here says its release date is May 26th.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Katanu on May 15, 2020, 11:38:53 PM
The kindle edition was delivered to my device, will start reading it later tonight!
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Stitch on May 16, 2020, 01:09:29 AM
Amazon update says I'll be getting my book on Sunday
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Katanu on May 16, 2020, 02:09:52 PM
Spoiler

Started reading late yesterday, so just managed to finish the prologue and chapter 1. So far it ties really well with Predator 2, dealing with the aftermath of City Hunter's and Harrigan's confrontation, with the OWLF in LA trying to salvage something out of the mess that the operation was. Was not expecting Dutch to be in this, really nice to finally see him again and find out what happened to him after Predator.
So far so good!
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Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Voodoo Magic on May 16, 2020, 02:45:40 PM
Quote from: Stitch on May 16, 2020, 01:09:29 AM
Amazon update says I'll be getting my book on Sunday

Really? What country are you in brother?
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Stitch on May 16, 2020, 09:18:24 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on May 16, 2020, 02:45:40 PM
Quote from: Stitch on May 16, 2020, 01:09:29 AM
Amazon update says I'll be getting my book on Sunday

Really? What country are you in brother?
UK
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Voodoo Magic on May 16, 2020, 09:19:31 PM
Quote from: Stitch on May 16, 2020, 09:18:24 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on May 16, 2020, 02:45:40 PM
Quote from: Stitch on May 16, 2020, 01:09:29 AM
Amazon update says I'll be getting my book on Sunday

Really? What country are you in brother?
UK

Ah. Thanks.

I guess the US has to wait a bit longer.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 17, 2020, 07:37:43 AM
I've also got it on Kindle. It wasn't available on the 14th like claimed. Physical copies aren't up on any of the linked stores either, same on Amazon. I'm suffering through the ebook version until they're available. Only 2 and a bit chapters in so far, but enjoying it. It ties into the OWLF tapes so far which is nice to see.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Xenomrph on May 17, 2020, 07:51:13 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 17, 2020, 07:37:43 AM
I've also got it on Kindle. It wasn't available on the 14th like claimed. Physical copies aren't up on any of the linked stores either, same on Amazon. I'm suffering through the ebook version until they're available. Only 2 and a bit chapters in so far, but enjoying it. It ties into the OWLF tapes so far which is nice to see.
How well does it tie into the short stories from "if It Bleeds"?
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 17, 2020, 08:06:40 AM
It doesn't as of yet and honestly I'm not expecting it to.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 18, 2020, 07:21:17 AM
Actual print copies are up on Amazon. Ordered one last night, should be here tomorrow. Can't wait, I just hate this e-reading business.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: HuDaFuK on May 18, 2020, 08:09:11 AM
Nice, I'll have to snag myself a copy.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Katanu on May 18, 2020, 10:50:06 PM
I actually enjoy reading on kindle. I always buy a physical copy for the collection, and prefer reading the real thing, but I don't mind reading an ebook. I live in Brazil and I have no idea when my copy will arrive, maybe next month, so kindle it'll be for now.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Stitch on May 19, 2020, 01:03:14 AM
I actually did receive my copy on the 17th, but haven't started it yet.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Katanu on May 20, 2020, 12:32:34 AM
While I'm really loving the book so far, there's one thing that kind of annoys me a little: The Predator's cloaking device working just fine in the rain. This was also a minor issue in Moore's last Predator book.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: HuDaFuK on May 20, 2020, 07:34:25 AM
My copy should be arriving today!

Quote from: Katanu on May 20, 2020, 12:32:34 AMWhile I'm really loving the book so far, there's one thing that kind of annoys me a little: The Predator's cloaking device working just fine in the rain. This was also a minor issue in Moore's last Predator book.

Perhaps they've just upgraded it?

Come to think of it, are there any future-set stories where it's stated as being affected by water? I don't recall it ever being addressed in Forever Midnight, Flesh and Blood or the Rage War novels, but I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 20, 2020, 09:27:41 AM
To be fair, it doesn't seem to short it out as badly as in Predator, but it is certainly not working flawlessly. It was a problem I had with Hunters and Hunted and Jim said he liked to envision they'd upgraded the cloak so water wouldn't affect it as much.

I'm about 140 pages into it. I'm enjoyed it but
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I just wish there was more Dutch. Too much time is being spent with Devlin, and he's still playing catch-up with the reader.
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Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Kradan on May 20, 2020, 11:04:55 AM
Spoiler
Dutch is in there !? HOLY SHIT !
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Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Katanu on May 20, 2020, 02:56:12 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 20, 2020, 07:34:25 AM
My copy should be arriving today!

Quote from: Katanu on May 20, 2020, 12:32:34 AMWhile I'm really loving the book so far, there's one thing that kind of annoys me a little: The Predator's cloaking device working just fine in the rain. This was also a minor issue in Moore's last Predator book.

Perhaps they've just upgraded it?

Come to think of it, are there any future-set stories where it's stated as being affected by water? I don't recall it ever being addressed in Forever Midnight, Flesh and Blood or the Rage War novels, but I could be wrong.

Perhaps, that's one way to explain it.
But the chapter in question takes place in 2000. It's not that far from Predator 2. Wolf's cloaking device was affected by water in AvP-R, that takes place in 2004. And probably other tales around that time had the Predator's cloaking device being affected by water, I honestly can't remember right now, I would have to check. Anyway, like I said, it's no big deal, just a minor issue.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Samhain13 on May 20, 2020, 09:50:01 PM
I think in Hunters And Hunted the cloaking works fine in the rain too during a scene.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 20, 2020, 09:53:17 PM
Spoiler
I'm about 2/3s of the way through now and Devlin has finally been brought up to speed. Hope these last 100 pages take it up a notch or two. Also some hinky promotions going on in this. Private to Sergeant, and then Sarge to Captain.
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Quote from: Samhain13 on May 20, 2020, 09:50:01 PM
I think in Hunters And Hunted the cloaking works fine in the rain too during a scene.

It did. It was my only real nerd complaint of the book.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: HuDaFuK on May 21, 2020, 04:02:38 AM
Admittedly I'm only one (fairly long) chapter in so far but to be brutally honest I'm really not enjoying this.

Far too much dumb shit has annoyed me already. For instance:
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  • If you're going to recreate scenes from one of the movies, for f*ck's sake make them match the movie. The opening sequence set during and immediately after the ending of Predator 2 is littered with inconsistencies. Most glaringly, instead of emerging from a tunnel in an apparently deserted area of town, we've got the Predators' ship exploding out of the ground in the middle of a neighbourhood, leaving a massive crater, demolishing buildings and killing scores of innocent bystanders. (Aside from not matching the film, this doesn't gel with the Predators' established M.O. of only killing worthy adversaries and staying hidden as much as possible either.) There are also said to be dozens more bodies down in the crater, implied to be mutilated Predator victims, yet we never see any evidence of these in the movie. And Garber watches Harrigan rise from the ashes on the surface outside when this happens deep underground long before Garber arrives on the scene in the film. Incorporating movie scenes and getting them wrong like this has been a pet peeve of mine since River of Pain, and this book's all over it. All you'd need to do is watch the scene in question, even once, and you'd catch most of these.
  • The inclusion of Sean Keyes and Dutch has thus far felt entirely tenuous. Keyes, Jr. in particular makes no sense being around at the end of P2. He's said to be the Regional Director of OWLF, yet if the actor's age is even remotely accurate to his character he'd be in his mid-20s at the time. Regional Director at that age? Moreover, the film gives the distinct impression OWLF is a small, clandestine unit operating off the books, so it seems highly improbable it would even have Regional Directors. Is that not a bit... official?
  • Similarly, Dutch's appearance at the scene doesn't make a whole bunch of sense, at least not the way it's portrayed in the book. He basically steals an OWLF chopper from a government building to get there instead of just, you know, driving. Garber even flies it for him. And no one cares.
  • Considering an entire OWLF team just got massacred by one of the creatures, it doesn't make a lick of sense that Keyes recruits just one soldier for protection when he goes to investigate a potential Predator encounter elsewhere in the city. If OWLF can boss the military around like that, why not take the entire unit?
  • And if OWLF can boss the military around like that, why do Garber and the other surviving agents run off at the end of Predator 2 as soon as the cops show up?
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I really hope this picks up once it moves on to more original material because I quite like the concept of following one soldier over several years as he goes through assignments around the world and climbs the ranks, uncovering more about the Predators as he goes. But so far this novel has read like bad fanfic.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Voodoo Magic on May 21, 2020, 12:14:53 PM
Mine still hasn't shipped yet from Amazon.

That's what I get for letting my Prime membership run out I guess. 
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: SuperiorIronman on May 21, 2020, 02:22:45 PM
Quote from: Katanu on May 20, 2020, 02:56:12 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 20, 2020, 07:34:25 AM
My copy should be arriving today!

Quote from: Katanu on May 20, 2020, 12:32:34 AMWhile I'm really loving the book so far, there's one thing that kind of annoys me a little: The Predator's cloaking device working just fine in the rain. This was also a minor issue in Moore's last Predator book.

Perhaps they've just upgraded it?

Come to think of it, are there any future-set stories where it's stated as being affected by water? I don't recall it ever being addressed in Forever Midnight, Flesh and Blood or the Rage War novels, but I could be wrong.

Perhaps, that's one way to explain it.
But the chapter in question takes place in 2000. It's not that far from Predator 2. Wolf's cloaking device was affected by water in AvP-R, that takes place in 2004. And probably other tales around that time had the Predator's cloaking device being affected by water, I honestly can't remember right now, I would have to check. Anyway, like I said, it's no big deal, just a minor issue.

Haven't got my copy yet but it could be explained by different models of the device being affected in different capacity. So different Predators will have slightly different responses to the elements considering the tech. In AVP the Predator's cloaks work fine in the snow and so we could assume the tech has gotten better and just that not all Predators have the modern tech. I believe Fugitive was also being coated in blood and it didn't affect his cloak aside from his eyes being visible so if his cloak was affected it's just not in such extreme cases as Jungle Hunter short-circuiting.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: HuDaFuK on May 22, 2020, 09:39:00 AM
I'm a bit further in now and I've started enjoying it more. It's still not a particularly remarkable read thus far but it's settled down into an entertaining time-passer.

I expect it'll be picked up on later, but I'm pretty sure the unnamed government suit whose goons Devlin just squared off with was
Spoiler
Traeger.
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Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 22, 2020, 09:46:08 AM
Seems to be
Spoiler
they're supposed to be Stargazer.
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Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: PAS Spinelli on May 22, 2020, 05:11:24 PM
Yo guys, can someone tell me if the book fixes the stuff that The Predator did? undo the autism retcons and stuff
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Kradan on May 22, 2020, 05:45:46 PM
I guess it just won't be ever mentioned in any Predator-related media
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Katanu on May 22, 2020, 08:03:09 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on May 22, 2020, 05:11:24 PM
Yo guys, can someone tell me if the book fixes the stuff that The Predator did? undo the autism retcons and stuff
It's set before The Predator. I'm halfway in and so far no mention of DNA harvesting or any of that crap.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Voodoo Magic on May 22, 2020, 08:39:09 PM
I'm waiting for the children's series of novels to be released.

Rory McKenna and his Magical World of Predator Hunters
(https://www.hleatherjackets.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/6566656.jpg)
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Kradan on May 22, 2020, 08:59:02 PM
I wouldn't mind that. I mean, we've already got Alien books for kids, haven't we ?

(https://mywishcard.com/s/i2/57/6/470x0_REVaNEucGrtC5n9ivdwUE1QyqfDge1VB___jpg____4_75fb7727.jpg)

(https://aliens30anni.files.wordpress.com/2019/01/jonesy-2018-10-a.jpg?w=640)
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: SuperiorIronman on May 22, 2020, 10:49:02 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on May 22, 2020, 05:11:24 PM
Yo guys, can someone tell me if the book fixes the stuff that The Predator did? undo the autism retcons and stuff

While I don't have my copy yet its worth mentioning that seemingly the only carryover is Stargazer as an antagonistic force but otherwise the hybridization is a trait only left to the Assassin and the Fugitive Predators.

Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: HuDaFuK on May 23, 2020, 10:49:25 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 22, 2020, 09:46:08 AMSeems to be
Spoiler
they're supposed to be Stargazer.
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Definitely the vibe I got, to the point where I assumed it would be clarified later on.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 25, 2020, 11:15:34 AM
My review is up: https://www.avpgalaxy.net/literature/reviews/predator-stalking-shadows-review/

Beware minor spoilers.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Voodoo Magic on May 25, 2020, 02:06:43 PM
Wow thst was fast! Still waiting on delivery of mine. :-\
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Hudson on May 25, 2020, 04:52:15 PM
Oh boy. I'm about to place an order for this and suddenly see it's co-authored by Mark Morris...who co-wrote The Predator novelization. I will temper my expectations and hopefully I'll come out on top this time.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Voodoo Magic on May 25, 2020, 07:30:04 PM
Quote from: Hudson on May 25, 2020, 04:52:15 PM
Oh boy. I'm about to place an order for this and suddenly see it's co-authored by Mark Morris...who co-wrote The Predator novelization. I will temper my expectations and hopefully I'll come out on top this time.

I believe Mark Morris only came in and pinched hit in the finale innings for James Moore, as Moore struggled with health issues. So I'd assume the book is more Moore than Morris.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: HuDaFuK on May 27, 2020, 04:49:09 PM
Finished this today. Hicks' review is pretty much spot-on in terms of reflecting my own thoughts. The core concept could've been interesting but it took way too long (more than half the novel) to get going and overall it felt terribly uninspired and by-the-numbers. There are worse Predator books, but I can't think of any as bland as this.

Other than the Isolation adaptation I'd rate this as comfortably the weakest Titan novel.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Stitch on May 31, 2020, 04:59:00 AM
I enjoyed the majority of it. The way the different chapters start in different years made me think that it could work well as a miniseries.
I thought the ending was a bit abrupt, though. Wasn't enough build up, and it was over a bit too quickly for it to be satisfying. I even had to reread a bit to make sure I hasn't missed anything. I hadn't, it just ended.

I'd give it a 7, I think. The expanded lore and the character perspective was good, as was the continued story of Dutch, but there was teased  information implying a story which might have been better than the one told.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Katanu on May 31, 2020, 05:45:50 PM
That's pretty much what I think too.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 01, 2020, 07:11:32 AM
Quote from: Stitch on May 31, 2020, 04:59:00 AM
I enjoyed the majority of it. The way the different chapters start in different years made me think that it could work well as a miniseries.

It's why I thought another anthology might have been a better way to tell this story.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Xiggz456 on Jun 02, 2020, 05:13:39 PM
Finally finished this!

Spoiler
The novel felt more akin to a diary than a traditional narrative as we skipped through Devlin's military career. So in that way it kinda reminded me of "Bloody Sands of Time". I really enjoyed every Predator encounter but I will gripe that all of the Preds were too brazen, attacking an entire squad of soldiers, as opposed to stalking their prey and picking them off one by one. I enjoyed the inclusion of Dutch and was able to "hear" his voice when I read his dialogue and I liked how Devlin's team and Dutch's path would cross due to military assignments.
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All in all, the book wasn't what I expected but I still had a good time reading it.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 12, 2020, 08:07:29 AM
So Scott Devlin is supposed to be
Spoiler
Zeus from the game for those interested.
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Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Stitch on Jun 12, 2020, 10:22:24 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 12, 2020, 08:07:29 AM
So Scott Devlin is supposed to be
Spoiler
Zeus from the game for those interested.
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As in the (effectively) narrator who briefs you at the beginning of the mission?
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 12, 2020, 11:04:47 AM
And throughout the missions, yes.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Xiggz456 on Jun 12, 2020, 11:58:55 AM
I figured as much but good to have confirmation. They probably should've mentioned
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Zeus
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in the actual book though.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 12, 2020, 12:04:45 PM
Yeah, I thought the same. I did suspect he was Devlin given the epilogue, but was nice to have confirmed.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jun 12, 2020, 12:12:26 PM
Errrrr so Scott ends up working with....... and regarding if he lives or dies, he......       ? 

Spoilers!!  I'm only halfway done!   :P
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Xiggz456 on Jun 12, 2020, 12:13:41 PM
Out of curiosity who confirmed it? Jim Moore? Illfonic?
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jun 12, 2020, 12:15:24 PM
I'm betting the Illfonic guys.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 12, 2020, 12:50:42 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 12, 2020, 12:12:26 PM
Errrrr so Scott ends up working with....... and regarding if he lives or dies, he......       ? 

Spoilers!!  I'm only halfway done!   :P

Ooops. Sorry. Spoiler tags added.


Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 12, 2020, 12:15:24 PM
I'm betting the Illfonic guys.

Yeah, Jared confirmed it in our interview. Just editing it now.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jun 12, 2020, 02:59:01 PM
Really looking forward to that one
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 12, 2020, 04:23:29 PM
It was a good one! Nearly finished my first pass on it this morning. Really looking forward to that one going out.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: lightsyder on Jun 18, 2020, 06:16:00 PM
Just finished this one last night.  I enjoyed it very much.  As a timeline junkie I enjoyed how this flowed with Predator, Predator 2, The Predator and Hunting Grounds Dutch recordings.  Kinda cool seeing a location from a Dark Horse comic revisited even if that encounter isn't actually mentioned and it was most likely coincidental.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 18, 2020, 07:41:55 PM
Quote from: lightsyder on Jun 18, 2020, 06:16:00 PM
Kinda cool seeing a location from a Dark Horse comic revisited even if that encounter isn't actually mentioned and it was most likely coincidental.

Big Game?
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: lightsyder on Jun 19, 2020, 01:13:40 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 18, 2020, 07:41:55 PM
Quote from: lightsyder on Jun 18, 2020, 06:16:00 PM
Kinda cool seeing a location from a Dark Horse comic revisited even if that encounter isn't actually mentioned and it was most likely coincidental.

Big Game?

Yep, the NM encounter sounded like the same location as the final fight from the comic
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Xiggz456 on Jun 19, 2020, 01:16:38 PM
I caught that too! The Zuni-Bandera lava fields are in the same national park as the Malpaise from "Big Game". As for timeline "Big Game" takes place in 1990 so way before Devlin's time. But it's cool to see that there's specific hunting grounds that the predators like to frequent.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: lightsyder on Jun 19, 2020, 01:49:17 PM
Exactly what I thought!  Add in Good on Two Witch Mesa and NM seems to be a favorite hunting ground
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Wysps on Jun 19, 2020, 11:30:42 PM
Quote from: lightsyder on Jun 18, 2020, 06:16:00 PM
Just finished this one last night.  I enjoyed it very much.  As a timeline junkie I enjoyed how this flowed with Predator, Predator 2, The Predator and Hunting Grounds Dutch recordings.  Kinda cool seeing a location from a Dark Horse comic revisited even if that encounter isn't actually mentioned and it was most likely coincidental.
That's good to hear.  I'm a sucker for continuity/consistency, so definite plus for me  :)
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: felix on Jul 08, 2020, 11:17:40 AM
My copy of Stalking Shadows came in.

Level with me. Is it any good? (I haven't read the comments above(
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 08, 2020, 12:17:29 PM
It's meh. It's not the worse, but it's nowhere near good. It's a waste of a Predator novel.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jul 08, 2020, 02:24:28 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 08, 2020, 12:17:29 PM
It's a waste of a Predator novel.

Sadly, I must agree.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: felix on Jul 08, 2020, 10:21:12 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 08, 2020, 12:17:29 PM
It's meh. It's not the worse, but it's nowhere near good. It's a waste of a Predator novel.

Ouch.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Xiggz456 on Jul 09, 2020, 11:27:32 AM
I wouldn't go so far as to say it's a waste BUT it certainly wasn't what I expected. The book is more like a diary than a normal narrative so expect a lot of time jumps. In some ways it felt like an anthology with all these snippets of different encounters. Having read "Forever Midnight" for the first time right after reading this, I can confidently say that this is nowhere near the worst Predator novel though.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 09, 2020, 11:34:38 AM
Honestly, I think an actual anthology would be have been better.

And yeah...Forever Midnight is...not good.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: HuDaFuK on Jul 09, 2020, 11:40:19 AM
Hicks is right in his assessment that this book is entirely average. It's neither bad nor good, just very by-the-numbers.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Xiggz456 on Jul 09, 2020, 02:26:43 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 09, 2020, 11:34:38 AM
Honestly, I think an actual anthology would be have been better.

And yeah...Forever Midnight is...not good.

Yeah I agree an anthology would've been better. I still hope the book sells well enough so that Titan gives us more Predator novels though.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Wweyland on Jul 23, 2020, 07:33:18 PM
This was mediocre. The mystery didn't work and military side was very clunky.
Hunters and Hunted was great and didn't have these problems though.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Jul 26, 2020, 05:22:39 PM
A question, this book ignores or acknowledges the AVP movies?
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: SpaceKase on Jul 26, 2020, 05:53:49 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 26, 2020, 05:22:39 PM
A question, this book ignores or acknowledges the AVP movies?

Both AvP movies supposedly take place around Oct 2004, and the book kinda hops over that between chapter 6 and 7, Scotland in Sept 2004 and Mexico in Sept 2005 respectively. All of the events of Bouvetøya were really isolated but we know some of the recovered artifacts ended up with Project Stargazer. Gunnison Colorado of course was nuked by a branch of the OWLF and we know the artifacts recovered from that ended up in the private sector with Yutani Industries. The perspective of the book is entirely from one character who is an outsider to all of these organizations, so no direct references are made and the main character doesn't even have a solid foundation of awareness of extraterrestrials until later. 

It can be assumed that events surrounding the destruction of Gunnison were covered up and played off as a natural disaster, like a meteor strike or atmospheric comet explosion like the Tunguska Fireball or something. So the book doesn't go out of its way to ignore these events, the main character Devlin just doesn't have any reason to refer to them since he isn't in the know. The whole book plays much more like an X-Files type mystery stretched across the span of a number of years as Devlin lives his life and slowly gathers pieces of the much larger picture whenever he crosses paths with Dutch.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Jul 26, 2020, 05:55:47 PM
Quote from: SpaceKase on Jul 26, 2020, 05:53:49 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 26, 2020, 05:22:39 PM
A question, this book ignores or acknowledges the AVP movies?

Both AvP movies supposedly take place around Oct 2004, and the book kinda hops over that between chapter 6 and 7, Scotland in Sept 2004 and Mexico in Sept 2005 respectively. All of the events of Bouvetøya were really isolated but we know some of the recovered artifacts ended up with Project Stargazer. Gunnison Colorado of course was nuked by a branch of the OWLF and we know the artifacts recovered from that ended up in the private sector with Yutani Industries. The perspective of the book is entirely from one character who is an outsider to all of these organizations, so no direct references are made and the main character doesn't even have a solid foundation of awareness of extraterrestrials until later.
Yes but the book is meant to bridge all movies to the game, the fact it straight up ignores the AvP movies is a good sign honestly
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: SpaceKase on Jul 26, 2020, 06:08:41 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 26, 2020, 05:55:47 PM
Quote from: SpaceKase on Jul 26, 2020, 05:53:49 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 26, 2020, 05:22:39 PM
A question, this book ignores or acknowledges the AVP movies?

Both AvP movies supposedly take place around Oct 2004, and the book kinda hops over that between chapter 6 and 7, Scotland in Sept 2004 and Mexico in Sept 2005 respectively. All of the events of Bouvetøya were really isolated but we know some of the recovered artifacts ended up with Project Stargazer. Gunnison Colorado of course was nuked by a branch of the OWLF and we know the artifacts recovered from that ended up in the private sector with Yutani Industries. The perspective of the book is entirely from one character who is an outsider to all of these organizations, so no direct references are made and the main character doesn't even have a solid foundation of awareness of extraterrestrials until later.
Yes but the book is meant to bridge all movies to the game, the fact it straight up ignores the AvP movies is a good sign honestly

I guess. If one is a detractor of the AvP franchise, then yes, the ambiguity will comfort any sensitivities. Though a distinction should be made between simply not referring to events and blatantly contradicting events. This book does the former, not the latter, so all fandom teams are respected.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Stitch on Jul 26, 2020, 08:14:34 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 26, 2020, 05:55:47 PM
Yes but the book is meant to bridge all movies to the game
According to whom? I've never heard that to be the case, and the blurb doesn't say that.
Also, I might be wrong but I don't recall Predators being mentioned (possibly because it took place on another planet). By that reasoning, it removes that movie from current canon as well.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jul 26, 2020, 08:29:31 PM
Quote from: Stitch on Jul 26, 2020, 08:14:34 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 26, 2020, 05:55:47 PM
Yes but the book is meant to bridge all movies to the game
According to whom? I've never heard that to be the case, and the blurb doesn't say that.
Also, I might be wrong but I don't recall Predators being mentioned (possibly because it took place on another planet). By that reasoning, it removes that movie from current canon as well.

Yeah the actual game itself with the OWLF Recordings and Dutch tapes actually bridges the game more thoroughly to Predator, Predator 2 and The Predator than Stalking Shadows ever does. With a few brief exceptions, this book really just supplies fans the backstory to
Spoiler
Zeus.
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Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: SpaceKase on Jul 26, 2020, 11:07:03 PM
If you're a crazy pants, like me, and you want some chronological context here's a smattering of events in chronological order with the game specific media in italics...

1987.0000      Predator
1987.0912   Dutch Recordings   Debriefing
1991.0408   Dutch Recordings   Folklore
1992.0627   Dutch Recordings   Patience
1996.0223   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   1 – Onboarding
1996.0303   Dutch Recordings   Hades
1996.1203   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   2 – Research
1997.0212   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   3 – Development
1997.0702   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   4 – Los Angeles

1997.0702      Predator 2
1997.0708   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   5 – Go Time
1997.0708   Stalking Shadows   Prologue Los Angeles
1997.0709   Stalking Shadows   Chapter 01
1997.0710   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   6 – Aftermath
1997.0710   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   7 – Meeting Dutch
1997.0711   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   8 – Benefactors
1997.0921   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   9 – Helmet and Arm
1997.1012   Dutch Recordings   Strange Bedfellows
1997.1201   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   10 – Technological Finds
1998.0312   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   11 – Dutch and Team Dispatched
1998.0409   Stalking Shadows   Chapter 02

1998.0914      Predator - Homeworld
1999.0000      AvP - e. Old Secrets
1999.0319   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   12 – Plasma Caster
2000.0101   Stalking Shadows   Chapter 03
2000.0401   Stalking Shadows   Chapter 04
2001.0404   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   13 – Close Encounter
2002.0900   Stalking Shadows   Chapter 05 - 3rd Wk of Sept

2004.0000      Alien vs Predator [Film]
2004.0900   Stalking Shadows   Chapter 06 - 1st wk of Sept      
2004.1027   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   14 – A Body

2005.0829      Predator - If It Bleeds - e. Storm Blood
2005.0900   Stalking Shadows   Chapter 07 - 1st wk of Sept
2006.0500   Stalking Shadows   Chapter 08 - 3rd wk of May

2007.0000      AvP - Sand Trap
2007.0708   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   15 – Anniversary
2007.1200   Stalking Shadows   Chapter 09 - 2nd wk of Dec
2008.0303   Dutch Recordings   Napolean
2008.0310   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   16 – Dutch's Run In
2008.1117   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   17 – Recovery
2010.0524   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   18 – Calm
2011.0700   Stalking Shadows   Chapter 10 - 2nd wk of July
2013.0700   Stalking Shadows   Chapter 11 - 1st wk of July
2013.0800   Stalking Shadows   Chapter 12 - 1st wk of Aug
2015.0303   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   19 – Funding Issues
2016.0829   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   20 – Stargazer Final entry

2016.1027      Predator - Hunter and Hunted
2017.0000      Predator - If It Bleeds - c. Rematch
2017.0000      Predator - Hunters
2017.0000      Predator - Hunters II
2017.0000      Predator - Hunters III
2018.0000      The Predator
2018.0113   Dutch Recordings   Stargazer
2019.0000      Predator - If It Bleeds - Tin Warrior
2022.0000      Predator - If It Bleeds - n. Drug War
2023.0800   Stalking Shadows   Epilogue Ten Years Later
2024.0000      AvP - Eternal
2025.0400      Predator - Hunting Grounds
2025.0730   Dutch Recordings   Still Hunting

2030.0000      Predator - Concrete Jungle (Eurocom, PS2 Xbox game)
         
But keep in mind, the DLC's are still coming out, so who knows what new lore is still coming down the pipe. I personally really want to know about this Big Mama yaut that branded Dutch's face, I have a feeling we haven't heard the last of her.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Jul 27, 2020, 12:09:16 AM
Quote from: Stitch on Jul 26, 2020, 08:14:34 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 26, 2020, 05:55:47 PM
Yes but the book is meant to bridge all movies to the game
According to whom? I've never heard that to be the case, and the blurb doesn't say that.
Also, I might be wrong but I don't recall Predators being mentioned (possibly because it took place on another planet). By that reasoning, it removes that movie from current canon as well.
This official prequel novel leads into the new PlayStation®4 video game from IllFonic. PREDATOR: STALKING SHADOWS is the bridge between Predator 2 and the current day continuity.
Also they mention a huge blackout on 2010 with the Predator tech, could be referencing Predators, who knows
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: SpaceKase on Jul 27, 2020, 12:55:39 AM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 27, 2020, 12:09:16 AM
Quote from: Stitch on Jul 26, 2020, 08:14:34 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 26, 2020, 05:55:47 PM
Yes but the book is meant to bridge all movies to the game
According to whom? I've never heard that to be the case, and the blurb doesn't say that.
Also, I might be wrong but I don't recall Predators being mentioned (possibly because it took place on another planet). By that reasoning, it removes that movie from current canon as well.
This official prequel novel leads into the new PlayStation®4 video game from IllFonic. PREDATOR: STALKING SHADOWS is the bridge between Predator 2 and the current day continuity.
Also they mention a huge blackout on 2010 with the Predator tech, could be referencing Predators, who knows

Well that is interesting, what is the source for this snippet? And who are "they" and where do they mention a blackout in 2010?
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Jul 27, 2020, 01:21:56 AM
Quote from: SpaceKase on Jul 27, 2020, 12:55:39 AM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 27, 2020, 12:09:16 AM
Quote from: Stitch on Jul 26, 2020, 08:14:34 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 26, 2020, 05:55:47 PM
Yes but the book is meant to bridge all movies to the game
According to whom? I've never heard that to be the case, and the blurb doesn't say that.
Also, I might be wrong but I don't recall Predators being mentioned (possibly because it took place on another planet). By that reasoning, it removes that movie from current canon as well.
This official prequel novel leads into the new PlayStation®4 video game from IllFonic. PREDATOR: STALKING SHADOWS is the bridge between Predator 2 and the current day continuity.
Also they mention a huge blackout on 2010 with the Predator tech, could be referencing Predators, who knows

Well that is interesting, what is the source for this snippet? And who are "they" and where do they mention a blackout in 2010?
This snipped is in the synopsis listed on Amazon
They being either the book or the tapes, they, gotta check it later, I remember someone talking to me about it but I wasn't paying attention haha
I'll try finding it tomorrow
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: SpaceKase on Jul 27, 2020, 05:50:39 AM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 27, 2020, 01:21:56 AM
Quote from: SpaceKase on Jul 27, 2020, 12:55:39 AM
Well that is interesting, what is the source for this snippet? And who are "they" and where do they mention a blackout in 2010?
This snipped is in the synopsis listed on Amazon
They being either the book or the tapes, they, gotta check it later, I remember someone talking to me about it but I wasn't paying attention haha
I'll try finding it tomorrow

Ah! I think you might be referring to the Pred tech surge described in the May 24th 2010 OWLF Recording #18. The writing is kinda weird for those recordings, but Keyes is describing an incident that occurred shortly after Dutch's run-in with the female Predator in early March of 2008, where he got his face scars. It may come up again in a future DLC, I hope it will, but as-is it's just a weird and ambiguous reference. That is, of course, if this is indeed what you might be thinking of. But I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Jul 27, 2020, 04:25:36 PM
Quote from: SpaceKase on Jul 27, 2020, 05:50:39 AM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 27, 2020, 01:21:56 AM
Quote from: SpaceKase on Jul 27, 2020, 12:55:39 AM
Well that is interesting, what is the source for this snippet? And who are "they" and where do they mention a blackout in 2010?
This snipped is in the synopsis listed on Amazon
They being either the book or the tapes, they, gotta check it later, I remember someone talking to me about it but I wasn't paying attention haha
I'll try finding it tomorrow

Ah! I think you might be referring to the Pred tech surge described in the May 24th 2010 OWLF Recording #18. The writing is kinda weird for those recordings, but Keyes is describing an incident that occurred shortly after Dutch's run-in with the female Predator in early March of 2008, where he got his face scars. It may come up again in a future DLC, I hope it will, but as-is it's just a weird and ambiguous reference. That is, of course, if this is indeed what you might be thinking of. But I could be wrong.
That's probably it, I wonder if it has something to do with Predators, we may know in the future, maybe we'll get a Royce update with audio logs too lmao
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: lightsyder on Jul 27, 2020, 04:49:42 PM
I've not played Hunting Grounds but a DLC with a Super Predator encounter would be cool.  Maybe add the hunting planet as a map.  Player team is captured and dropped off.  Be neat, also good way to the in some extra lore updates!
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Jul 27, 2020, 05:05:07 PM
Quote from: lightsyder on Jul 27, 2020, 04:49:42 PM
I've not played Hunting Grounds but a DLC with a Super Predator encounter would be cool.  Maybe add the hunting planet as a map.  Player team is captured and dropped off.  Be neat, also good way to the in some extra lore updates!
2010 Berserker is in the files so we might be getting that son
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 27, 2020, 05:59:33 PM
Our podcast review is now up: https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2020/07/27/learning-with-zeus-reviewing-predator-stalking-shadows-avp-galaxy-podcast-113/
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: SpaceKase on Jul 27, 2020, 08:30:28 PM
Nice! Checking it out right now! Thanks!
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Tichinde on Jul 27, 2020, 10:45:35 PM
listening to the audible dramatization while I mow grass. Really like what this book is doing with dutch and keys, just wanted to drop by and say that.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: SpaceKase on Jul 28, 2020, 01:47:50 AM
Halfway through the youtube vers and Voodoo is cracking me up detailing Ellison supposed assassination plan for Dutch, two Hillbilly's and a transient, man. I guess that's all they had in the mib's assassination budget.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: j0nesy on Jul 28, 2020, 10:06:56 PM
i just have to give voodoo a shout-out for his pronunciation of hicks' and my name; so often, people pronounce it "air-on"  :P
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jul 28, 2020, 10:29:48 PM
Quote from: SpaceKase on Jul 28, 2020, 01:47:50 AM
Halfway through the youtube vers and Voodoo is cracking me up detailing Ellison supposed assassination plan for Dutch, two Hillbilly's and a transient, man. I guess that's all they had in the mib's assassination budget.

Haha, I still feel guilty over some technical problems I was having so I'm glad I could create some laughs. But I know, right? Ellison can't put a sniper somewhere on a roof ready for Dutch to leave the bar? Instead he hires a homeless man? Maybe we should just be happy he was trying to give the homeless employment.   :laugh:

Quote from: j0nesy on Jul 28, 2020, 10:06:56 PM
i just have to give voodoo a shout-out for his pronunciation of hicks' and my name; so often, people pronounce it "air-on"  :P

lol , appreciate it. I guess my English teacher deserves the credit for that one. :)
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Samhain13 on Jul 28, 2020, 11:29:36 PM
Quote from: SpaceKase on Jul 26, 2020, 11:07:03 PM
If you're a crazy pants, like me, and you want some chronological context here's a smattering of events in chronological order with the game specific media in italics...

1987.0000      Predator
1987.0912   Dutch Recordings   Debriefing
1991.0408   Dutch Recordings   Folklore
1992.0627   Dutch Recordings   Patience
1996.0223   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   1 – Onboarding
1996.0303   Dutch Recordings   Hades
1996.1203   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   2 – Research
1997.0212   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   3 – Development
1997.0702   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   4 – Los Angeles

1997.0702      Predator 2
1997.0708   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   5 – Go Time
1997.0708   Stalking Shadows   Prologue Los Angeles
1997.0709   Stalking Shadows   Chapter 01
1997.0710   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   6 – Aftermath
1997.0710   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   7 – Meeting Dutch
1997.0711   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   8 – Benefactors
1997.0921   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   9 – Helmet and Arm
1997.1012   Dutch Recordings   Strange Bedfellows
1997.1201   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   10 – Technological Finds
1998.0312   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   11 – Dutch and Team Dispatched
1998.0409   Stalking Shadows   Chapter 02

1998.0914      Predator - Homeworld
1999.0000      AvP - e. Old Secrets
1999.0319   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   12 – Plasma Caster
2000.0101   Stalking Shadows   Chapter 03
2000.0401   Stalking Shadows   Chapter 04
2001.0404   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   13 – Close Encounter
2002.0900   Stalking Shadows   Chapter 05 - 3rd Wk of Sept

2004.0000      Alien vs Predator [Film]
2004.0900   Stalking Shadows   Chapter 06 - 1st wk of Sept      
2004.1027   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   14 – A Body

2005.0829      Predator - If It Bleeds - e. Storm Blood
2005.0900   Stalking Shadows   Chapter 07 - 1st wk of Sept
2006.0500   Stalking Shadows   Chapter 08 - 3rd wk of May

2007.0000      AvP - Sand Trap
2007.0708   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   15 – Anniversary
2007.1200   Stalking Shadows   Chapter 09 - 2nd wk of Dec
2008.0303   Dutch Recordings   Napolean
2008.0310   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   16 – Dutch's Run In
2008.1117   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   17 – Recovery
2010.0524   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   18 – Calm
2011.0700   Stalking Shadows   Chapter 10 - 2nd wk of July
2013.0700   Stalking Shadows   Chapter 11 - 1st wk of July
2013.0800   Stalking Shadows   Chapter 12 - 1st wk of Aug
2015.0303   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   19 – Funding Issues
2016.0829   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   20 – Stargazer Final entry

2016.1027      Predator - Hunter and Hunted
2017.0000      Predator - If It Bleeds - c. Rematch
2017.0000      Predator - Hunters
2017.0000      Predator - Hunters II
2017.0000      Predator - Hunters III
2018.0000      The Predator
2018.0113   Dutch Recordings   Stargazer
2019.0000      Predator - If It Bleeds - Tin Warrior
2022.0000      Predator - If It Bleeds - n. Drug War
2023.0800   Stalking Shadows   Epilogue Ten Years Later
2024.0000      AvP - Eternal
2025.0400      Predator - Hunting Grounds
2025.0730   Dutch Recordings   Still Hunting

2030.0000      Predator - Concrete Jungle (Eurocom, PS2 Xbox game)
         
But keep in mind, the DLC's are still coming out, so who knows what new lore is still coming down the pipe. I personally really want to know about this Big Mama yaut that branded Dutch's face, I have a feeling we haven't heard the last of her.

That's nice. Thanks.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Stitch on Jul 29, 2020, 01:30:36 AM
Quote from: Tichinde on Jul 27, 2020, 10:45:35 PM
listening to the audible dramatization while I mow grass. Really like what this book is doing with dutch and keys, just wanted to drop by and say that.
I just listened to the sample. Er... Hmm. That's an interesting Arnie impression. Sounds more like Udo Kier.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: SpaceKase on Jul 29, 2020, 02:50:17 AM
Quote from: Stitch on Jul 29, 2020, 01:30:36 AM
Quote from: Tichinde on Jul 27, 2020, 10:45:35 PM
listening to the audible dramatization while I mow grass. Really like what this book is doing with dutch and keys, just wanted to drop by and say that.
I just listened to the sample. Er... Hmm. That's an interesting Arnie impression. Sounds more like Udo Kier.

Lol. Yeah, James Patrick Cronin has been doing all the Predator Audiobooks lately, you can tell early on in Stalking Shadows that he's deliberately trying Not to do an Arnie impression, but that goal was a bit too herculean and his Dutch voice is kinda all over the map for most of the book. Later on towards the end he sorta settle's on Arnie-light and it feels a bit more comfortable.

Ironically enough, the Dutch tapes from the game are using the real Arnie, which is mostly awesome but kinda weirdly not Dutch-like sometimes. Like in the recording from March 3rd 2008 right after his entire squad is killed and he only survives because the big Female Yaut lets him live after scarring him up, he just kinda glides over the fact that all his buddies were just slaughtered in front of him. but eh. c'est la vie. Mr Schwarzenegger is incredibly awesome for even being a part of this.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jul 29, 2020, 11:40:10 AM
Hoping Mr. Glover is next!
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Jul 29, 2020, 02:36:57 PM
I'd love Harringan but I think he would be too old to be a playable character, but I would like some tapes from him and a class that he trained or something
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: j0nesy on Jul 29, 2020, 03:15:48 PM
royce and isabelle double whammy!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: lightsyder on Jul 29, 2020, 05:39:09 PM
Needs a dlc set on the game preserve planet.  Give us some lore for all that!  Lol.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: SpaceKase on Jul 29, 2020, 06:54:30 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 29, 2020, 02:36:57 PM
I'd love Harringan but I think he would be too old to be a playable character, but I would like some tapes from him and a class that he trained or something

Or Bill Paxton's son as a character! He sounds so much like his dad. "Hey, hunting down alien creatures is my specialty!"
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jul 31, 2020, 02:46:14 AM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 29, 2020, 02:36:57 PM
I'd love Harringan but I think he would be too old to be a playable character, but I would like some tapes from him and a class that he trained or something

Late 30's in 1997 would put Harrigan in late 50s in 2017. Pushing 65 perhaps in 2025? I think it can still work if he's kept himself in shape. Maybe Mike has also had some of the Yautja juice that keeps Dutch so spry...
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Tichinde on Jul 31, 2020, 04:14:29 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 31, 2020, 02:46:14 AM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 29, 2020, 02:36:57 PM
I'd love Harringan but I think he would be too old to be a playable character, but I would like some tapes from him and a class that he trained or something

Late 30's in 1997 would put Harrigan in late 50s in 2017. Pushing 65 perhaps in 2025? I think it can still work if he's kept himself in shape. Maybe Mike has also had some of the Yautja juice that keeps Dutch so spry...

Speaking of that, we gonna ignore the fact that two games have now copied AVP eternal's vampirizing premise lol.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: SpaceKase on Jul 31, 2020, 05:19:56 PM
Quote from: Tichinde on Jul 31, 2020, 04:14:29 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 31, 2020, 02:46:14 AM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 29, 2020, 02:36:57 PM
I'd love Harringan but I think he would be too old to be a playable character, but I would like some tapes from him and a class that he trained or something

Late 30's in 1997 would put Harrigan in late 50s in 2017. Pushing 65 perhaps in 2025? I think it can still work if he's kept himself in shape. Maybe Mike has also had some of the Yautja juice that keeps Dutch so spry...

Speaking of that, we gonna ignore the fact that two games have now copied AVP eternal's vampirizing premise lol.

It's pretty fascinating actually, what started as movie magic from the first aid scenes with the Jungle and City Hunters, got expanded quite a bit in the games with the UV crystal shard things that heal your pred up proper, and now 30 years later, genuine science is exploring the miraculous efficiency of undifferentiated stem cells and biologically based nano-technology, and suddenly it all doesn't seem so far fetched any more.

If Yautja, being as advanced as they are, have blood that is infused with what are essentially artificially produced, self-replicating stem cells, powered internally by the natural biological processes and storing their charge in the form of phosphorescent cells, then they would have the ability to be externally charged by exposure to higher energy UV stimulation when those natural biological functions become impaired or compromised. Just like holding a black light up to a glow stick.

From: https://www.thoughtco.com/fluorescence-versus-phosphorescence-4063769
Quotea phosphorescent material absorbs high energy light (usually ultraviolet), causing the electrons to move into a higher energy state, but the transition back to a lower energy state occurs much more slowly and the direction of the electron spin may change. Phosphorescent materials may appear to glow for several seconds up to a couple of days after the light has been turned off. The reason phosphorescence lasts longer than fluorescence is because the excited electrons jump to a higher energy level than for fluorescence. The electrons have more energy to lose and may spend time at different energy levels between the excited state and the ground state.

If the artificial stem cell nanotech is designed for Yautja physiology and biological processes, then it could potentially support the replenishment of their cells indefinitely before other entropic forces eventually broke down the system's functioning. Perhaps for Yautja it is indeed not the Years, but just the Mileage.

Being not designed specifically for human physiology, but adaptable enough to function with cells in that foreign environment, the artificial cells could very well function when introduced in the high doses one would receive from eating a Yautja heart perhaps. But, not possessing of the natural Yautja biological functioning which would normally consistently recharge the cells internally, the artificially produced stem cells would run out of their charge and replenishment ability much faster without external UV stimulation, stimulation that Yautja biology is perhaps adapted to but which is inherently harmful to human biology through the damage it inflicts to our DNA.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Xiggz456 on Aug 08, 2020, 12:26:01 AM
Gave the podcast a listen and I'm certainly siding with Ridgetop on this one! Can't believe Voodoo hasn't read "Hunters and Hunted"?! Are you even a Predator fan???  :laugh:
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Tichinde on Aug 08, 2020, 01:16:01 AM
Also did anybody else hear what dutch says in the bar about the female predator?
He says she's way more skilled than anything he's come up against and observes her like
"As close to royalty as their kind has"
Could be the first time we ever saw a matriarch in lore! ;D
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Kradan on Aug 08, 2020, 04:54:09 AM
Quote from: Xiggz456 on Aug 08, 2020, 12:26:01 AM
Gave the podcast a listen and I'm certainly siding with Ridgetop on this one! Can't believe Voodoo hasn't read "Hunters and Hunted"?! Are you even a Predator fan???  :laugh:

Boo this man !
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Aug 08, 2020, 11:59:12 AM
Quote from: Xiggz456 on Aug 08, 2020, 12:26:01 AM
Gave the podcast a listen and I'm certainly siding with Ridgetop on this one! Can't believe Voodoo hasn't read "Hunters and Hunted"?! Are you even a Predator fan???  :laugh:

lol. You do realize it's a prequel to "The Predator", right?. So I think my Predator fan card is still in good standing.  :D. I was planning to read it after seeing the movie, but once I saw the film a second time, I couldn't bring myself to do it, to read anything attached to that.

But I'm not the biggest reader, I'm trying to change that, but I'm more a comic guy... read every Predator comic, not every Predator novel... but here's my current limited library (excluding Alien & AvP novels).

(https://i.ibb.co/bR7P2xq/IMG-20200808-074657.jpg)

It's not every Predator novel I own. For instance, I know that I have the Predator novelization somewhere around the house.  And looking at these, it is amazing that the Predator 2 novelization, Turnabout and China Sea is collectively worth $250 on a good day.

Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: 426Buddy on Aug 08, 2020, 01:42:02 PM
Yeah I'm jealous, you have China Sea
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Aug 08, 2020, 01:45:48 PM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Aug 08, 2020, 01:42:02 PM
Yeah I'm jealous, you have China Sea

It seems to have become the Predator novel holy grail hasn't it. I wonder what Hicks' signed copies would fetch him!  :o
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Tichinde on Aug 08, 2020, 04:36:05 PM
Ya know voodoo. No offense, but I now consider killing you and taking your collection as a trophy. You would die with honor of course, fight bravely. I shall mark your forehead with the mark of your clan and leave you to rest in a fair fire. But I shall claim SOUTH CHINA SEA
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Kradan on Aug 08, 2020, 07:01:35 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 08, 2020, 11:59:12 AM
Quote from: Xiggz456 on Aug 08, 2020, 12:26:01 AM
Gave the podcast a listen and I'm certainly siding with Ridgetop on this one! Can't believe Voodoo hasn't read "Hunters and Hunted"?! Are you even a Predator fan???  :laugh:

lol. You do realize it's a prequel to "The Predator", right?...

Excuses, excuses

Quote from: Tichinde on Aug 08, 2020, 04:36:05 PM
Ya know voodoo. No offense, but I now consider killing you and taking your collection as a trophy. You would die with honor of course, fight bravely. I shall mark your forehead with the mark of your clan and leave you to rest in a fair fire. But I shall claim SOUTH CHINA SEA

Watch out. This teddybear not as plushy as he may seem
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Aug 08, 2020, 09:23:53 PM
Quote from: Tichinde on Aug 08, 2020, 04:36:05 PM
Ya know voodoo. No offense, but I now consider killing you and taking your collection as a trophy. You would die with honor of course, fight bravely. I shall mark your forehead with the mark of your clan and leave you to rest in a fair fire. But I shall claim SOUTH CHINA SEA

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/6e978fda039f399be6fb13d57ad5efd1/tenor.gif)

Quote from: Kradan on Aug 08, 2020, 07:01:35 PM
Watch out. This teddybear not as plushy as he may seem

(https://i.imgur.com/S3moz3d.gif?noredirect)
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Xiggz456 on Aug 08, 2020, 10:55:40 PM
Excuses indeed  :D but seriously it's a good novel and based on your bookshelf the only Predator story you haven't read yet! Other than Stargazer, the book has little to do with the film so no need to worry there.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: SpaceKase on Aug 09, 2020, 06:29:53 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 08, 2020, 09:23:53 PM
Quote from: Tichinde on Aug 08, 2020, 04:36:05 PM
Ya know voodoo. No offense, but I now consider killing you and taking your collection as a trophy. You would die with honor of course, fight bravely. I shall mark your forehead with the mark of your clan and leave you to rest in a fair fire. But I shall claim SOUTH CHINA SEA

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/6e978fda039f399be6fb13d57ad5efd1/tenor.gif)

Quote from: Kradan on Aug 08, 2020, 07:01:35 PM
Watch out. This teddybear not as plushy as he may seem

(https://i.imgur.com/S3moz3d.gif?noredirect)

Haha! Yessss! Perfect gif. That Imagine Dragons "Radioactive" video is the finest exhibition since "Sonnie's Edge" from Love, Death, and Robots. Lou Diamond Phillips would have made a dope Enoch Nakai back in the day.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Xiggz456 on Aug 09, 2020, 12:46:42 PM
Quote from: SpaceKase on Aug 09, 2020, 06:29:53 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 08, 2020, 09:23:53 PM
Quote from: Tichinde on Aug 08, 2020, 04:36:05 PM
Ya know voodoo. No offense, but I now consider killing you and taking your collection as a trophy. You would die with honor of course, fight bravely. I shall mark your forehead with the mark of your clan and leave you to rest in a fair fire. But I shall claim SOUTH CHINA SEA

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/6e978fda039f399be6fb13d57ad5efd1/tenor.gif)

Quote from: Kradan on Aug 08, 2020, 07:01:35 PM
Watch out. This teddybear not as plushy as he may seem

(https://i.imgur.com/S3moz3d.gif?noredirect)

Haha! Yessss! Perfect gif. That Imagine Dragons "Radioactive" video is the finest exhibition since "Sonnie's Edge" from Love, Death, and Robots. Lou Diamond Phillips would have made a dope Enoch Nakai back in the day.

He would've been perfect for Enoch!
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Stitch on Aug 10, 2020, 02:01:56 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 08, 2020, 11:59:12 AM
Quote from: Xiggz456 on Aug 08, 2020, 12:26:01 AM
Gave the podcast a listen and I'm certainly siding with Ridgetop on this one! Can't believe Voodoo hasn't read "Hunters and Hunted"?! Are you even a Predator fan???  :laugh:

lol. You do realize it's a prequel to "The Predator", right?
It's a significantly better story than The Predator as well.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: lightsyder on Aug 10, 2020, 04:38:35 PM
Oh yeah, hunters and hunted isn't bad at all.  Shows how much better the predator could have been
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Tichinde on Aug 10, 2020, 06:47:10 PM
Quote from: lightsyder on Aug 10, 2020, 04:38:35 PM
Oh yeah, hunters and hunted isn't bad at all.  Shows how much better the predator could have been

I only have one gripe and it's actually not even something I care about that much, spoilers ahead!

Spoiler
He skins and eats a dude's leg. I mean that's fine i guess, just don't remember Yautja eating humans before this book lol
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Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: lightsyder on Aug 10, 2020, 07:07:54 PM
Quote from: Tichinde on Aug 10, 2020, 06:47:10 PM
Quote from: lightsyder on Aug 10, 2020, 04:38:35 PM
Oh yeah, hunters and hunted isn't bad at all.  Shows how much better the predator could have been

I only have one gripe and it's actually not even something I care about that much, spoilers ahead!

Spoiler
He skins and eats a dude's leg. I mean that's fine i guess, just don't remember Yautja eating humans before this book lol
[close]

That was indeed very odd...lol

I chalked it up to desperation given recent events
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Aug 10, 2020, 08:20:03 PM
Quote from: Stitch on Aug 10, 2020, 02:01:56 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 08, 2020, 11:59:12 AM
Quote from: Xiggz456 on Aug 08, 2020, 12:26:01 AM
Gave the podcast a listen and I'm certainly siding with Ridgetop on this one! Can't believe Voodoo hasn't read "Hunters and Hunted"?! Are you even a Predator fan???  :laugh:

lol. You do realize it's a prequel to "The Predator", right?
It's a significantly better story than The Predator as well.

Yeah I heard. Eventually I'll make the plunge and read it. The Predator novelization too which I heard wonderful things about *sarcasm*.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: HuDaFuK on Aug 11, 2020, 12:34:18 AM
Quote from: lightsyder on Aug 10, 2020, 04:38:35 PM
Oh yeah, hunters and hunted isn't bad at all.  Shows how much better the predator could have been

Other than the slightly dumb/nonsensical Predator escape, it was a great read.

Still made more sense than the Predator just deciding to get up in the film though.
Title: Re: Predator - Stalking Shadows by James A Moore
Post by: lightsyder on Aug 11, 2020, 03:04:43 AM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Aug 11, 2020, 12:34:18 AM
Quote from: lightsyder on Aug 10, 2020, 04:38:35 PM
Oh yeah, hunters and hunted isn't bad at all.  Shows how much better the predator could have been

Other than the slightly dumb/nonsensical Predator escape, it was a great read.

Still made more sense than the Predator just deciding to get up in the film though.

Yeah, that part in the book was odd and a little confusing.  Really didn't make a lot of sense