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As Ridley Scott continues to make the rounds, promoting his upcoming Matt Damon science-fiction film, The Martian, Scott has been talking more about the Prometheus franchise. In an interview with German publication Film Flutter, Ridley Scott has talked specifically about the future of the Prometheus franchise and the possibility of another 2 sequels:

“The whole point is to explain the Alien franchise and how and why the creation of the aliens. I always saw the Alien as a type of biological warfare. For me, the original spaceship that I call the croissant, a warship that contains these biomechanoids creatures, which is all about destruction.” 

When asked if the Prometheus films will tie directly into the Alien films, Ridley Scott responded: “Yes, but it will not be the next. It will be in the next but Prometheus or perhaps even in a later, before we are in a sense back in the Alien franchise.”

So it would certainly look like Ridley Scott has bigger plans for the Prometheus franchise. What do you guys and girls reckon to this news? Thanks to Bloody Disgusting and Joel Foster for the tip and to community member Wmmvrrvrrmm for the link to the actual interview.

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It will definitely be cool see how the aliens fit into whatever cosmic story Scott starts weaving in the next movie.

Considering Prometheus was essentially a 130 million dollar prologue, he best not dick around with the story in this one.
Ridley is only ever as good as the screenplays he develops and obviously he's quite bad at that.

My biggest concern is the script too. Ridley came into Prometheus with a strong screenplay from Spaihts and then it just went to pot. I really hope its worked on well for the next however many.

Well this news just made my morning!  :)

Come on Ridley; don't let us down.  ;)

Honestly I'm happy that Ridley outright said that the alien is a biological weapon and that Prometheus is the story of what drives men to create monsters. This is f**king beautiful news if I do say so.

I look forward to seeing what these movies will bring to the story.

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 23, 2015, 12:08:19 PM
My biggest concern is the script too. Ridley came into Prometheus with a strong screenplay from Spaihts and then it just went to pot. I really hope its worked on well for the next however many.

Umm, I remember the Spaihts stuff sounding absolutely horrible. Was the screenplay really that strong?

Quote from: whiterabbit on Sep 23, 2015, 12:27:41 PM

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 23, 2015, 12:08:19 PM
My biggest concern is the script too. Ridley came into Prometheus with a strong screenplay from Spaihts and then it just went to pot. I really hope its worked on well for the next however many.

Umm, I remember the Spaihts stuff sounding absolutely horrible. Was the screenplay really that strong?

Would have made for a much more entertaining and cohesive movie. All they had to do really was change the planet name so as not to make it a direct prequel to Alien. The dialogue was much more science heavy and the pacing far superior.

Having said that, the engineers were always tall white skinned dudes in Spaights draft and the geologist with the electronic map always got lost in the cave.......

I hope Questions aren't asked just for the sake of it. Otherwise everything gets pushed beyond breaking point.

As long as the script is strong and not too obscure it'll be okay. Maybe somewhere in between Spaihts and Lindofs scripts, a decent middle ground

Quote from: whiterabbit on Sep 23, 2015, 12:27:41 PM

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 23, 2015, 12:08:19 PM
My biggest concern is the script too. Ridley came into Prometheus with a strong screenplay from Spaihts and then it just went to pot. I really hope its worked on well for the next however many.

Umm, I remember the Spaihts stuff sounding absolutely horrible. Was the screenplay really that strong?

Spaiht's script was a much more solid piece of work than the final product. It needed polishing - as tmjhur says, removing the direct tie-ins to Alien - but it was a far more cohesive piece of work.

This is awesome news.  It means (not counting Predator 4) we have at least 4 films to look forward to in the Alien franchise.  How awesome is that?  Like seriously.  How AWESOME is that?

Don't f#%k it up!

Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Sep 23, 2015, 02:17:38 PM
This is awesome news.  It means (not counting Predator 4) we have at least 4 films to look forward to in the Alien franchise.  How awesome is that?  Like seriously.  How AWESOME is that?

Don't f#%k it up!

Ehhhhhhh......sure.......sure we will.

If only Ridley didn't think beyond Prometheus 2 he might just focus on ONE great story!
I wish more directors took the Christopher Nolan approach of just making one GREAT standalone story - The Prestige, Inception, Instellar etc - none of those movies need a sequel. If Ridley Scott developed Interstellar he probably would have kept half of it for a sequel (I love Interstellar by the way, don't want to derail the thread by getting into the pros and cons of it or other Nolan movies thanks).

I see your point tmjhur, and 1 good movie is worth more than 4 half-assed ones.  But I do hope he gets it right and tells a rich story that unravels the full mysterious tapestry of the Alien.  It would be great if we could have 4 films that explore these subjects in depth while still leaving some level of mystery at the end.

"Who created them?"  Unanswerable.  It's just a question of belief.  It should be left at that.

Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Sep 23, 2015, 04:01:33 PM
I see your point tmjhur, and 1 good movie is worth more than 4 half-assed ones.  But I do hope he gets it right and tells a rich story that unravels the full mysterious tapestry of the Alien.  It would be great if we could have 4 films that explore these subjects in depth while still leaving some level of mystery at the end.

"Who created them?"  Unanswerable.  It's just a question of belief.  It should be left at that.

Well Ridley daydreaming plans for a 3 or 4 film series is somewhat worrying considering the first film was average at best and told very little story.
I'll stand by my 130 million dollar prologue comment any day.

Very good news!

Quote from: tmjhur on Sep 23, 2015, 04:14:59 PM
I'll stand by my 130 million dollar prologue comment any day.

You're not standing by much since that is exactly what it was.

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 23, 2015, 02:09:40 PM

Quote from: whiterabbit on Sep 23, 2015, 12:27:41 PM

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 23, 2015, 12:08:19 PM
My biggest concern is the script too. Ridley came into Prometheus with a strong screenplay from Spaihts and then it just went to pot. I really hope its worked on well for the next however many.

Umm, I remember the Spaihts stuff sounding absolutely horrible. Was the screenplay really that strong?

Spaiht's script was a much more solid piece of work than the final product. It needed polishing - as tmjhur says, removing the direct tie-ins to Alien - but it was a far more cohesive piece of work.

Ok... but still happy with what we got in prometheus vs that. :)

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 23, 2015, 09:04:39 AM"The whole point is to explain the Alien franchise and how and why the creation of the aliens."

I thought that stopped being the point when you decided Prometheus wasn't gonna be an Alien prequel and was gonna be its own, separate thing...?

Quote from: HuDaFuK on Sep 23, 2015, 08:35:46 PM

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 23, 2015, 09:04:39 AM"The whole point is to explain the Alien franchise and how and why the creation of the aliens."

I thought that stopped being the point when you decided Prometheus wasn't gonna be an Alien prequel and was gonna be its own, separate thing...?

Yeah, the reporting here is EXACTLY the reporting for the last film where it went from it being an alien film to not being an alien film from interview to interview.

So with this i stop caring about these films and will likely put them on the bottom on the Alien\Pred franchise.
That's right, i will put AVP on top of these films.

 I have allways been a big fan of the movies of aliens and AvP I look forward to seeing more movies.seeing how aliens come to be is great A big thank you and as I said I look forward to seeing more  :)  :)  :)

Quote from: DaddyYautja on Sep 23, 2015, 10:33:16 PM

Quote from: HuDaFuK on Sep 23, 2015, 08:35:46 PM

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 23, 2015, 09:04:39 AM"The whole point is to explain the Alien franchise and how and why the creation of the aliens."

I thought that stopped being the point when you decided Prometheus wasn't gonna be an Alien prequel and was gonna be its own, separate thing...?

Yeah, the reporting here is EXACTLY the reporting for the last film where it went from it being an alien film to not being an alien film from interview to interview.

So with this i stop caring about these films and will likely put them on the bottom on the Alien\Pred franchise.
That's right, i will put AVP on top of these films.

Hey man, harsh language cuts deep. :P

Quote from: HuDaFuK on Sep 23, 2015, 08:35:46 PM

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 23, 2015, 09:04:39 AM"The whole point is to explain the Alien franchise and how and why the creation of the aliens."

I thought that stopped being the point when you decided Prometheus wasn't gonna be an Alien prequel and was gonna be its own, separate thing...?

Agreed. I'm all for creative freedom but only to a point. At some point he needs to make up his mind on whether or not he wants it to be alien related or not. Stop going back and forth... it's an alien film.. it's not an alien film..... sh*t or get off the pot. Plain and simple.
   Personally I think he's just saying he wants to tie it into an alien film again due to fox green lighting Blomkamp. He was over the whole alien thing and I believe he was even quoted as saying he was done with that story. Then once news of Blomkamp getting green lit for another alien film surfaces he suddenly finds a lost love for the franchise again... and wants Blomkamp to edit his story because it may interfere with what he has planned for the franchise. Sorry you had your chance for another addition to the franchise and YOU decided you were done with it. Move on.

It's the fact both Alien and Predator, as series, have a future that could be rather bright.  And they are intertwined.  It makes sense to embellish with back-story now, rather than make an independent movie.  I have high hopes.

Quote from: HuDaFuK on Sep 23, 2015, 08:35:46 PM

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 23, 2015, 09:04:39 AM"The whole point is to explain the Alien franchise and how and why the creation of the aliens."

I thought that stopped being the point when you decided Prometheus wasn't gonna be an Alien prequel and was gonna be its own, separate thing...?

Perhaps he's been convinced otherwise. Or it was more about the visual image of the Alien than anything else. It can still lead more directly into Alien without using the creature itself.

But I do see where you're coming from though.

Quote from: whiterabbit on Sep 23, 2015, 07:56:16 PM
Ok... but still happy with what we got in prometheus vs that. :)

I'd have to disagree. The script is far better than the film.

Quote from: Liberator on Sep 24, 2015, 03:53:55 AMIt makes sense to embellish with back-story now, rather than make an independent movie.

But when they so specifically altered the concept of the original film so that it would be its own independent series and wouldn't be linked to Alien, suddenly reversing that call now kinda smacks of desperation.

Whoa,  slow down Ridley,  not even started P2 yet and we all know that will blow.  Already got you lot hook line and sinker though.

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 24, 2015, 07:28:03 AM

Quote from: whiterabbit on Sep 23, 2015, 07:56:16 PM
Ok... but still happy with what we got in prometheus vs that. :)

I'd have to disagree. The script is far better than the film.

Wait, just to be clear, we're talking about the ultramorph script/screenplay where shaw single handily exterminates alien after alien?

Quote from: whiterabbit on Sep 24, 2015, 09:49:13 AMWait, just to be clear, we're talking about the ultramorph script/screenplay where shaw single handily exterminates alien after alien?

Still better than the film we got. It makes sense, for one.

And none of us have ever claimed Spaihts' script didn't need more work. But when they gave it to Lindelof he made it worse, not better.

Quote from: whiterabbit on Sep 24, 2015, 09:49:13 AM

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 24, 2015, 07:28:03 AM

Quote from: whiterabbit on Sep 23, 2015, 07:56:16 PM
Ok... but still happy with what we got in prometheus vs that. :)

I'd have to disagree. The script is far better than the film.

Wait, just to be clear, we're talking about the ultramorph script/screenplay where shaw single handily exterminates alien after alien?

I do.

Quote from: HuDaFuK on Sep 24, 2015, 09:55:10 AM
Still better than the film we got. It makes sense, for one.

And none of us have ever claimed Spaihts' script didn't need more work. But when they gave it to Lindelof he made it worse, not better.

And as HuDa says. On both points.

I've said it needed work. But it's a far better script than what Lindelof produced.

I'm probably wondering about Ridley's interest in leaping into Paradise Lost territory

I think Ridley sees prometheus as his "Avatar".  He is essentially doing the James Cameron Route here.

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 24, 2015, 10:23:59 AM

Quote from: whiterabbit on Sep 24, 2015, 09:49:13 AM

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 24, 2015, 07:28:03 AM

Quote from: whiterabbit on Sep 23, 2015, 07:56:16 PM
Ok... but still happy with what we got in prometheus vs that. :)

I'd have to disagree. The script is far better than the film.

Wait, just to be clear, we're talking about the ultramorph script/screenplay where shaw single handily exterminates alien after alien?

I do.

I understand what you're saying but that movie would have been terrible. :(

Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Sep 24, 2015, 12:15:21 PM
I think Ridley sees prometheus as his "Avatar".  He is essentially doing the James Cameron Route here.

Finally someone said it.

Prometheus 2 oficially titled: Alien: Paradise Lost.

I hope Blomhack get shafted by the studio, cause retconning Alien 3 in favor of wet fan-fiction is sacrilege.

Let's all keep in mind that Ridley isn't exactly renowned for accuracy in his interviews. He tends to just say what's on his mind at that moment in time.

Ridley "Prometheus will be a prequel!""Prometheus will not be a prequel well kinda"Any of you guys remember that in 2012

All I ask for is a decent film from Neil Blomkamp, a good movie that ignores all the lousy third rate sequels and spinoffs and effectively forms a nice tight trilogy with Alien and Aliens.

The Prometheus news is only of interest out of concern it might kill the Blomkamp movie. It may or may not turn out well, but so long as it gets a chance Ridley can do whatever he wants. I can just ignore the Prometheus stuff, like all the trashy Alien vs Predator movies, Alien 3 and so on. I can't imagine how good the reviews would have to be to make me see another Prometheus movie.

Quote from: Beatnation on Sep 24, 2015, 04:19:13 PM
Prometheus 2 oficially titled: Alien: Paradise Lost.

I hope Blomhack get shafted by the studio, cause retconning Alien 3 in favor of wet fan-fiction is sacrilege.

We know virtually nothing about the story, let alone enough to make a judgement call on whether it's "wet fan-fiction" or not.

Quote from: Xenomorphine on Sep 25, 2015, 12:15:32 AM

Quote from: Beatnation on Sep 24, 2015, 04:19:13 PM
Prometheus 2 oficially titled: Alien: Paradise Lost.

I hope Blomhack get shafted by the studio, cause retconning Alien 3 in favor of wet fan-fiction is sacrilege.

We know virtually nothing about the story, let alone enough to make a judgement call on whether it's "wet fan-fiction" or not.

Michael Biehn has stated that Neill Blomkamp's movie disregards 3 and 4, that we know so far. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmUH_eA9VGE

Quote from: XENOMORPHOSIS on Sep 25, 2015, 04:17:48 AM
Michael Biehn has stated that Neill Blomkamp's movie disregards 3 and 4, that we know so far.

Wikipedia and IMDB need to reference this video and mention this..

Having that said, while Biehn has mentioned this, we really don't know for certain but many signs point to it. And with the sudden change in the Prometheus sequel... it might as well be a toss up. Maybe that Bloody-Disgusting "insider" who said it was early to tell may have some weight in their claim.

Quote from: XENOMORPHOSIS on Sep 25, 2015, 04:17:48 AMMichael Biehn has stated that Neill Blomkamp's movie disregards 3 and 4, that we know so far.

Michael Biehn, who's only connection to the movie is a hoax Twitter post saying he's been cast that was immediately debunked...

    I think his idea will give the Alien universe a lot more depth.

Yea, the alien is iconic but the universe it exists within can be so much more. These sci-fi, horror, action, monster movies are the types of movies we rarely get.

Ridley say's he plans to direct ALL the Prometheus sequels.

http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/prometheus/37099/prometheus-ridley-scott-to-direct-all-three-sequels

This vs cameron's avatar... what the hell is cameron thinking. :P

I can't wait to see alien: paradise lost.

Quote from: HuDaFuK on Sep 25, 2015, 07:40:58 AM

Quote from: XENOMORPHOSIS on Sep 25, 2015, 04:17:48 AMMichael Biehn has stated that Neill Blomkamp's movie disregards 3 and 4, that we know so far.

Michael Biehn, who's only connection to the movie is a hoax Twitter post saying he's been cast that was immediately debunked...

It's a little more than that. He's said (and I know it was him, I was there) that he'd been talking to Blomkamp about the film. He also confirmed that Blomkamp had told him the events of Alien 3 and Resurrection were being ignored.

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 25, 2015, 09:04:41 PM
It's a little more than that. He's said (and I know it was him, I was there) that he'd been talking to Blomkamp about the film. He also confirmed that Blomkamp had told him the events of Alien 3 and Resurrection were being ignored.

Then Wikipedia and IMDB need to update their pages and mention this.

Assuming this is all still true of course.

It made the rounds last month.

http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2015/08/15/michael-biehn-optimistic-about-neill-blomkamps-alien-5/

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 25, 2015, 09:53:08 PM
It made the rounds last month.

http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2015/08/15/michael-biehn-optimistic-about-neill-blomkamps-alien-5/

I'm not doubting that this is true, but then again something could potentially change at the same time.. but I definitely see this as true for now, but none of the movie sites such as IMDB or even Wikipedia mention Biehn's quote.

If it bothers you that much, update the sites yourself.

Maybe Neil is doing a Kojima thing messing with us hopefully :-X

Quote from: Liberator on Sep 24, 2015, 03:53:55 AM
It's the fact both Alien and Predator, as series, have a future that could be rather bright.  And they are intertwined.  It makes sense to embellish with back-story now, rather than make an independent movie.  I have high hopes.

Agreed. The franchise is part of the alien franchise because engineer = space jockey. Which had a hand in our creation and now want to destroy us.

As such a movie (probably the third in the series) eventually tieing into Alien as an (xenomorph)  ORIGON story would be great. Ridley has said so in the past. With Prometheus 2 explaining the black goo in the temple.

Sounds great.

Prometheus was always an  A L I E N  prequel and remained an  A L I E N  prequel, they fairly obviously merely back-peddled on that description because of the expectation it would create to have the familiar alien it it. That was pretty clear a full 18 months before the film came out.