Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Sep 29, 2017, 02:54:18 PM
Quote from: bb-15 on Sep 29, 2017, 06:44:21 AM
Alien Covenant" is on streaming. It is on Blu-ray.
It is easily available for those who have computers for streaming/shopping and the Japanese own computers.
- Only the most devoted Alien fans are going to pay to see it in a theater when it's so widely available.
Yes, but most Japanese don't speak or even understand English. Even less understand Spanish, German, French etc. So their only option is to wait for the Japanese theatrical release which is in their own language.
1. Movie piracy can increase when a release of a legal film / TV series to a certain country is delayed. Japan's release dates are often later compared with Europe / US.
And piracy is easier when Blu-ray copies are available which can be ripped.
I'm not going to provide links because that could be seen as encouraging piracy which I do not condone.
- However, it is a fact that torrent copies of Alien Covenant exist and that Japanese subtitles are available for that.
- I believe that there are people in Japan who decided not to wait for A:C and they saw available pirated copies as an option and they knew the way to get Japanese subtitles for A:C torrents.
2. Legitimate copies of "Alien Covenant" are for sale in Japan right now.
https://www.amazon.co.jp/Alien-Covenant-Blu-ray-Import/dp/B071YLX9D7/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1506670235&sr=8-2&keywords=alien+covenantA percent of the population does understand English and those could be lost ticket sales.
Also, I assume that enterprising people from Japan could rip the Blu-ray and then add Japanese subtitles.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Sep 29, 2017, 02:54:18 PMFox isn't stupid you know.
I never said that about Fox or anyone else. I try my hardest to not use insulting language like that on web forums.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Sep 29, 2017, 02:54:18 PM
QuoteWhat A:C needs for its total box office is to get $4 million more in Japan and it will reach $242.5 million worldwide.
And that would put box office at 2.5 x its production budget which is reaching a decent milestone.
Which is still below expectations no matter how you try and spin it.
It is your privilege to label what I've written as "spin".
I don't see it that way. I believe that I am presenting facts which are relevant to the topic of this thread;
'Alien: Covenant Box Office Performance".
* Since the 1990s science fiction horror has never been in the top level, blockbuster territory.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_films- And Alien / AVP movies since "Aliens" have at best been mediocre with box office performance.
* Here are links about the long term box office performance of the science fiction/horror genre and the Alien franchise.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/genres/chart/?id=scifihorror.htmhttp://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=alien.htm- The Alien franchise even at its peak (A1 & A2) was never at the level of Star Wars. Even "Star Trek: The Motion Picture" beats any Alien movie in terms of box office.
http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/franchise/Star-Trek#tab=summaryQuote from: The Eighth Passenger on Sep 29, 2017, 02:54:18 PMFox already said the box office was "disappointing".
* Fox has said that A:C financially was a disappointment.
A studio is usually hoping to make as much money as the previous film in a franchise.
- When that doesn't happen, such as with A:C, the studio will often be disappointed.
* But the box office for "Alien Covenant" could have been worse.
Decent science fiction movies which had horror, "Sunshine" and "Life", were flops.
And so they didn't get sequels.
* Recently Fox is saying that they believe that Ridley could do another Alien franchise movie.
http://www.alien-covenant.com/news/fox-trust-ridley-scott-break-new-ground-with-alien-covenant-sequelWhy? One reason is because the box office for A:C is going to be about 2.5 x its production budget.
And why is that ratio of box office to production budget important?
Because several films with a box office / production budget ratio of about 2.5 x have gotten sequels.
(And if anyone here requests a list of such movies, I can post that.)