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Posted by Corporal Hicks
 - Jul 11, 2017, 12:11:50 PM
There's that lost shot too but that's just superficial.
Posted by SM
 - Jul 11, 2017, 11:45:13 AM
Yeah there's a similarity in that they didn't just shoot the Queen.  But I'm not seeing much beyond that.
Posted by The Cruentus
 - Jul 11, 2017, 11:32:35 AM
Quote from: Scorpio on Jul 11, 2017, 02:54:14 AM
It's also copying what Aliens did with the Queen fight at the end.

How so? I'm pretty sure Ripley never threw a shuriken at the Queen or impaled her with a tail spear or Combistick, she certainly didn't chain it to a water tower.
The only thing that is the same is that the Queen is once again the "final boss" of the film and is killed by the natural environment.
Posted by SM
 - Jul 11, 2017, 10:44:58 AM
Ah yeah.  The armour too.
Posted by Corporal Hicks
 - Jul 11, 2017, 10:22:46 AM
The acid is able to damage their helmets to a small degree too.
Posted by SM
 - Jul 11, 2017, 10:16:38 AM
The blades are the only things that are susceptible acid aren't they?  The spear and throwing star thingy don't seem to be affected.
Posted by SiL
 - Jul 11, 2017, 10:05:05 AM
They're meant to shoot the Aliens and go home. Melee weapons were presumably absolute last resort, and even then the spear was to be preferred over the blades. The blades had one good hit in them, which is pretty understandable considering if you're in a situation where that's all you've got left chances are one hit is all you'll have the opportunity to make (Celtic could've stabbed Grid in the head, for example.)
Posted by HuDaFuK
 - Jul 11, 2017, 08:32:24 AM
My only issue with that was, out of all of the kit he has, you'd expect the Predator's Wristblades to be proofed against acid. They're literally his fallback weapon, to have them melt when the Combistick doesn't seemed really dumb.
Posted by Huntsman
 - Jul 11, 2017, 08:27:37 AM
I liked that the Predator managed to compete with the Alien, but the biology of the Alien ensured its ultimate victory. Eg. successfully putting the Alien into a net, which is then melted by the acid.
Posted by SM
 - Jul 11, 2017, 03:01:06 AM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jul 10, 2017, 11:40:21 AM
Mind you the first fight could have been better than it was as it was basically a wrestling match, though there was a few good moments such as the acid spray.

It could've been better certainly, but it's meant to be the entrĂ©e; not the main.  Which unfortunately is what happened.
Posted by Scorpio
 - Jul 11, 2017, 02:54:14 AM
The first fight is good but it's not the main event.  It was building up to the Queen the whole movie.  You see the Queen waking up, then breaking free.  I would have liked to see an epic showdown between Grid and Scar, but that would just repeat what has gone before.  It's also copying what Aliens did with the Queen fight at the end.
Posted by The Cruentus
 - Jul 10, 2017, 11:40:21 AM
Mind you the first fight could have been better than it was as it was basically a wrestling match, though there was a few good moments such as the acid spray.
Posted by SM
 - Jul 10, 2017, 02:46:07 AM
I've already explained why I don't like how it moves and why the first fight it better.
Posted by Scorpio
 - Jul 10, 2017, 02:20:31 AM
Quote from: SM on Jul 10, 2017, 02:08:13 AM
I don't have an issue with the special effects.  The Queen looks good, either puppet or CG - the way she moves doesn't.  The scene should've been the main event, and it was a let down after the promise of the first fight.

You don't like the way it moves?  The Grid/Celtic fight, in some shots they look like men in suits.  And the fighting is like WWE sometimes. 
Posted by monkeylove
 - Jul 10, 2017, 02:10:51 AM
Two sets of protagonists, leading to over-emphasis on action.
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