QuoteLike i have repeatedly said, your opinion of what was written has zero relevance to you wanting me to elaborate on what i thought.
Except it does. Let me break down a basic conversation start for you. You post your reaction to scene. I respond with surprise and a counter reaction to it. D I S C U S S I O N I N I T I A T E D! The only reason it didn't go further is because you opted for snark and pedantry with the reasoning that I've operated outside of your rules of discussion.
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If i cared about it i would have replied to it when you first made a post about it. Because, you know, people usually read other people's post in a forum.
I do not posses mind reading abilities and nor was I assuming you had read the earlier post. You posted a reaction. I expressed surprise to said reaction with the explanation that it read like a Bond villain scene verging on parody (an elaboration on an earlier post). Rather than discuss this further, you counted minutes.
QuoteI love how you ignored several key words there.
I emitted some chaff ( 'his breath isn't moist', 'It doesn't want him; it's not interested.'). Again, I understand
why it isn't interested in David and the same conclusion can still be gathered in the salient quotes I posted. I thought that was obvious.
QuoteHow does a creature not wanting to attack something make it seem harmless?
The fact that the handling of it is likened to the handling of a kitten makes it seem harmless, like an obedient pet. He does not say that David is handling a wild and untamed creature. In fact Spaihts sells the scene with an almost cuteness. 'David caresses an egg open', 'he can handles the thing like a kitten' and it renders the facehugger a threat only when David deems it so.
QuoteHow does the taunting convey he has any control?
Because he's taunting Shaw whilst handling a subdued facehugger. He allows it to attack when he wants it to.
'He toys with her for a bit and then lets it take her.'
David is the figure of control in the scene given it's current description.
QuoteI just think he holds it back as the creature is going wild,
But that's not the image Spaiht's sells at all. He doesn't say that it's a wild creature in David's hands. He instead says that David can handle it like a kitten (for various reasons) and that he uses it to toy with her before letting it take her.
QuoteHow does your point still stands when nothing of what you are flipping out that deals with this exists in that description?
Except it does.
QuoteWhere does it say that he leaves in that paragraph?
Yet another thing you make up.
ikarop posted a details on the Spaihts/ Lindelof writers commentary. Amongst that post were details of this scene.
'When Shaw follows David into the vaults of the ship, he deliberately infected her with a Facehugger. He also took her helmet so she couldn't run back to the ship and save her life by using the med pod. She still makes it back there by holding her breath and using compressed air.'David wants Shaw to die and not make it to the med pod. He leaves and Shaw survives by making it back to the med pod. Classic terrible Bond villain moment.
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=45642.0QuoteWhere did you get the idea that if something is dangerous it must be actively showing that 24/7?
Because that is the creature that we know. It is driven by it's purpose. It either lies dormant or it's out for a host. It is not a droid petting zoo animal and nor do I want to see it relegated to such a status.
QuoteWhere did you get the idea that if something is dangerous it must be actively showing that 24/7?
I haven't. I clearly stated that the creature is dormant in egg form (a state that can last thousands of years). If it's outside of an egg it is attacking. There's a reason that derelict Ship in Alien is not full of facehuggers simply wandering about in a passive state, waiting to attack.
QuoteSo you dont know what happens when it fails but you refuse to think that it does anything but jump around or sit in an egg
They have the ability to lie dormant in eggs for thousands of years and are shown to do so. If they're not in an egg, it's only because a potential host is nearby. If a potential host is nearby they attack until they succeed or die. This is the established nature of the creatures and it's terribly frightening without adding further states. The point is that they are perfect organisms, breeding machines, that have no need for emotion. They simply have drive. That drive is a desire to reproduce via terrifying means. Hence their two states. Dormant and Attack.