What if Amanda Ripley really is alive? We know Burke was a lead than trustworthy individual who only worked for Weyland-Yutani interests. Who's to say he didn't outright lie to Ellen Ripley?
https://youtu.be/_tWP8zXYslc (https://youtu.be/_tWP8zXYslc)
I'm not sure what difference it would make for him to lie. Amanda would still be pretty old, and the company already had Ellen in its grasp. If they wanted to shut either of them up, they could in a million ways. I think the original intent was that Amanda lived a normal life and died before Ripley was found. Because of Isolation, we now have her encountering the xenomorphs and that sets up more possibilities, all of which have to be shoehorned into the franchise.
Unless they do something as cheap and cheesy as putting Amanda on ice until her mother is found, keeping Ripley from seeing her old daughter serves no legitimate purpose. Ripley already believed the company knew about the Aliens. Having Amanda tell her that would be no big surprise to her.
I can see Fox pulling another Out of Shadows and making Ellen and Amanda meet.
Even if he lied. We grease this rat f**k son of a bitch anyway.
Quote from: Vermillion on Jan 04, 2019, 01:11:54 AM
Even if he lied. We grease this rat f**k son of a bitch anyway.
Wait, he has to go back.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Jan 03, 2019, 08:04:47 PM
I can see Fox pulling another Out of Shadows and making Ellen and Amanda meet.
Hell no. Never in a million years, please.
Alien Isolation was great. Out of the Shadows was contrived but very well done IMO. Though if they go this rout and dare to make them meet, I'll know that Fox has lost their minds for sure. :laugh:
Quote from: Still Collating... on Jan 04, 2019, 03:36:01 PM
Quote from: Samhain13 on Jan 03, 2019, 08:04:47 PM
I can see Fox pulling another Out of Shadows and making Ellen and Amanda meet.
Hell no. Never in a million years, please.
Alien Isolation was great. Out of the Shadows was contrived but very well done IMO. Though if they go this rout and dare to make them meet, I'll know that Fox has lost their minds for sure. :laugh:
And Fox haven't already? Didn't you see the deleted ending from The Predator? Some companies aren't looking for anything rational, they just want to see the franchises we like burn.
QuoteWho's to say he didn't outright lie to Ellen Ripley?
To what end?
To conceal her daughter's past as a leader of the resistance, of course.
Just another small retcon Fox wouldn't mind doing.
He also said she had no kids. Maybe that was a lie too. What if Ripley also has a granddaughter out there fighting a secret war against the evil forces of Weyland-Yutani?
That was already done on Sea of Sorrows, Alan Decker was a descendent of Ripley.
Please...
Empath Ripley lineage, Aliens wearing scuba gear, convenient amnesia adventures, hot glue Pathogen...
Colonial Marines at the fall of Hadley's Hope, 10ft Predators hunting for autism...
Don't remind me, there are some things that should just be buried and never spoken of...
AVPR, XenoGenesis, The Predator, OotS, RoP, SoS, The Rage War, F&S, L&D.
You can retcon anything, I guess. But for all intents and purposes, Burke is not lying when he tells Ripley about Amanda.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 07, 2019, 04:17:20 AM
He also said she had no kids. Maybe that was a lie too. What if Ripley also has a granddaughter out there fighting a secret war against the evil forces of Weyland-Yutani?
Apparently her distant cousin twice removed saw an Alien once.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jan 07, 2019, 06:35:50 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 07, 2019, 04:17:20 AM
He also said she had no kids. Maybe that was a lie too. What if Ripley also has a granddaughter out there fighting a secret war against the evil forces of Weyland-Yutani?
Apparently her distant cousin twice removed saw an Alien once.
Yeah, and (according to Hudson) it was Vasquez.
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 07, 2019, 03:12:02 PMEmpath Ripley lineage, Aliens wearing scuba gear, convenient amnesia adventures, hot glue Pathogen...
Colonial Marines at the fall of Hadley's Hope, 10ft Predators hunting for autism...
Which of those are still teh canonz?
Did you guys see my other thread? Alien Isolation's sequel is a f**king mobile game.
We are aware, its on the news page.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 08, 2019, 01:17:36 AM
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 07, 2019, 03:12:02 PMEmpath Ripley lineage, Aliens wearing scuba gear, convenient amnesia adventures, hot glue Pathogen...
Colonial Marines at the fall of Hadley's Hope, 10ft Predators hunting for autism...
Which of those are still teh canonz?
Hopefully 0.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Jan 08, 2019, 01:49:38 AM
We are aware, its on the news page.
I unfortunately learned that news from a YouTube channel I follow for gaming news. I'm irate about that. All this just for Chinese gold farmers. How f**ked.
Quote from: Clanleaderyautja on Jan 08, 2019, 02:02:08 AM
I'm irate about that.
You aren't the only one. But they will announce something else soon, could be good.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Jan 08, 2019, 02:05:44 AM
Quote from: Clanleaderyautja on Jan 08, 2019, 02:02:08 AM
I'm irate about that.
You aren't the only one. But they will announce something else soon, could be good.
God I hope so... I feel like we keep going from one piss poor cash grab to the next.
Quote from: Clanleaderyautja on Jan 08, 2019, 02:02:08 AM
Quote from: Samhain13 on Jan 08, 2019, 01:49:38 AM
We are aware, its on the news page.
I unfortunately learned that news from a YouTube channel I follow for gaming news. I'm irate about that. All this just for Chinese gold farmers. How f**ked.
The Chinese what now?
Quote from: SM on Jan 09, 2019, 02:18:11 AM
Quote from: Clanleaderyautja on Jan 08, 2019, 02:02:08 AM
Quote from: Samhain13 on Jan 08, 2019, 01:49:38 AM
We are aware, its on the news page.
I unfortunately learned that news from a YouTube channel I follow for gaming news. I'm irate about that. All this just for Chinese gold farmers. How f**ked.
The Chinese what now?
Not sure, but apparently there's gold in them thar hills.
Quote from: SM on Jan 09, 2019, 02:18:11 AM
Quote from: Clanleaderyautja on Jan 08, 2019, 02:02:08 AM
Quote from: Samhain13 on Jan 08, 2019, 01:49:38 AM
We are aware, its on the news page.
I unfortunately learned that news from a YouTube channel I follow for gaming news. I'm irate about that. All this just for Chinese gold farmers. How f**ked.
The Chinese what now?
Gonna guess you haven't played many videogames?
https://youtu.be/GO_HDbyCSbw (https://youtu.be/GO_HDbyCSbw)
Mobile games and MMORPGs are most famous for this.
You guess wrong.
Quote from: SM on Jan 09, 2019, 07:38:34 PM
You guess wrong.
Tell me where it blatantly says "no microtransactions"
It gives a grey answer. Not a black and white one.
I didn't mention micro transactions.
Quote from: SM on Jan 10, 2019, 12:14:31 AM
I didn't mention micro transactions.
If not talking about that, what are you on about?
"Gonna guess you haven't played many videogames?"
"You guess wrong."
Beat me to it lol.
Both of you beat me to it. ;D
Don't other video games cut into your ACM time?
I am holding out that a future Alien script has it revealed Amanda didn't age and die, instead have her in cryo and then Mother (after Blomkamps possible film resetting up the time line) team up film where Ellen (Sigourney Weaver) hands over the fight the company and its Xenomorph dream to a new generation for the movie screen.
I'm not saying dont finish David's story but a more traditional aliens film following the Isolation story would be great.
-TJ88
Jesus Christ I hope not, I think that's the ruin of the franchise's future (for me) put into a succinct scenario.
Quote from: The Old One on Feb 15, 2019, 10:26:44 PM
Jesus Christ I hope not, I think that's the ruin of the franchise's future (for me) put into a succinct scenario.
Seconded.
This is what I love about the Alien franchise, everyone has a strong feel for what they love about it and the pressure behind pleasingly everyone has led to a consistently strong franchise overall.
Back on topic for the game though I imagine it will be revealed Burke lied to keep the series going, Amanda has crossed over into the comics too so either way it works to bring the element of she can still die if the story wills it. Question is how to reveal to the audience he lied?
-TJ88
I just think the Mother/Daughter team up idea, presumably through Cryosleep shenanigans ventures too far into Doctor Who territory.
The best way I can put it, is try to explain it to someone who hasn't seen an Alien film, and if it sounds cheesy it doesn't belong in the Alien series.
Quote from: The Old One on Feb 15, 2019, 10:26:44 PM
Jesus Christ I hope not, I think that's the ruin of the franchise's future (for me) put into a succinct scenario.
Do you think they haven't considered it?
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 16, 2019, 08:19:54 PM
Quote from: The Old One on Feb 15, 2019, 10:26:44 PM
Jesus Christ I hope not, I think that's the ruin of the franchise's future (for me) put into a succinct scenario.
Do you think they haven't considered it?
Hell, that's probably alien 5.
That idea could have come out of the pod on The Predator.
Why should they retcon a movie that's 33 years old, just to tie it to a video game?
Quote from: Valaquen on Jan 07, 2019, 03:20:32 PM
You can retcon anything, I guess. But for all intents and purposes, Burke is not lying when he tells Ripley about Amanda.
This may make sense. Burke is not lying about Amanda, because he was also deceived! He get info about Amanda from comp, but something else create this false info before him!
Quote from: Thunderjack88 on Feb 15, 2019, 09:56:50 PM
I am holding out that a future Alien script has it revealed Amanda didn't age and die, instead have her in cryo and then Mother (after Blomkamps possible film resetting up the time line) team up film where Ellen (Sigourney Weaver) hands over the fight the company and its Xenomorph dream to a new generation for the movie screen.
I'm not saying dont finish David's story but a more traditional aliens film following the Isolation story would be great.
-TJ88
Star Wars tried that. It did not end well. They had to destroy what came before to elevate their visions, characters, stories, and lore...
Quote from: Kane's other son on Feb 18, 2019, 11:08:16 AM
Why should they retcon a movie that's 33 years old, just to tie it to a video game?
There has been a lot of that going on in another Intellectual property...
Quote from: Wweyland on Jan 04, 2019, 10:12:26 AM
Quote from: Vermillion on Jan 04, 2019, 01:11:54 AM
Even if he lied. We grease this rat f**k son of a bitch anyway.
Wait, he has to go back.
Ahhhhh, an arahant in our midst.
I don't think so.
I'll say one thing for Burke. He didn't hesitate to talk about the bonus situation.