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Posted by Prez
 - Mar 25, 2024, 10:32:17 PM
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 25, 2024, 12:00:06 PM
Quote from: E. Shaw on Mar 24, 2024, 11:06:52 PM
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 24, 2024, 09:09:38 PMAliens will be the worst looking of the Alien films in 4K and that's nuts.

I watched the UHD version a couple of days ago and it looked awful. This happened with Lord of the Rings UHD.

Nothing hurts me in the realm of current home theater more than the butchering of the Lord of the Rings that happened on 4K, the DNR, the ghosting, changing the flashbacks and flashforwards to be grey... it pains my soul. 

Good thing I've got my beautifully packaged Extended Editions of that trilogy still (even if I have the UHD version too).

You and others have given me much food for thought in my initial thought to purchase Aliens in 4K. As I said I didn't mind the Digital Version but perhaps now I won't spend a small fortune getting the physical copy.
Posted by E. Shaw
 - Mar 25, 2024, 08:48:21 PM
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 25, 2024, 12:00:06 PM
Quote from: E. Shaw on Mar 24, 2024, 11:06:52 PM
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 24, 2024, 09:09:38 PMAliens will be the worst looking of the Alien films in 4K and that's nuts.

I watched the UHD version a couple of days ago and it looked awful. This happened with Lord of the Rings UHD.

Nothing hurts me in the realm of current home theater more than the butchering of the Lord of the Rings that happened on 4K, the DNR, the ghosting, changing the flashbacks and flashforwards to be grey... it pains my soul. 

Oh no! That sounds horrid! Better keep my Standard Definition set then.
Posted by BlueMarsalis79
 - Mar 25, 2024, 12:00:06 PM
Quote from: E. Shaw on Mar 24, 2024, 11:06:52 PM
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 24, 2024, 09:09:38 PMAliens will be the worst looking of the Alien films in 4K and that's nuts.

I watched the UHD version a couple of days ago and it looked awful. This happened with Lord of the Rings UHD.

Nothing hurts me in the realm of current home theater more than the butchering of the Lord of the Rings that happened on 4K, the DNR, the ghosting, changing the flashbacks and flashforwards to be grey... it pains my soul. 
Posted by Nukiemorph
 - Mar 25, 2024, 11:50:17 AM
A negative one. He complains about the waxy look, but praises the colors on the previous blu-ray AND praises the cover-art on this new UHD.


A mixed/positive one, and probably the one that echoes my feelings the most. He cited specific examples where DNR smudge jumps out at him, but says it didn't break the experience for him overall.


And another positive one. He acknowledges how many people are complaining about the DNR, but says he personally likes the enhanced sharpness and detail.

Posted by E. Shaw
 - Mar 24, 2024, 11:06:52 PM
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 24, 2024, 09:09:38 PMAliens will be the worst looking of the Alien films in 4K and that's nuts.

I watched the UHD version a couple of days ago and it looked really bad. This happened with Lord of the Rings Bluray first release, the HD removed all the work of smoke and shadows and etc to blend the CG with live action, most notable was The Belrog, it looked in HD like bad cgi from a video game.
Posted by SiL
 - Mar 24, 2024, 10:40:31 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Mar 24, 2024, 10:37:18 PMIts to do with how they filmed it right? So its got that film grain even in hd.
They filmed on new, fast stock that had a lot of grain, which is a common issue with film stock intended for low light (look at the scene in Predator where Mac says he'll take first watch -- jeez).

The cinematography is also kind of plain. Lots of iconic shots throughout the film, but it just feels very functional. Which isn't a bad thing at all, it's just in a series of movies that have really, really gorgeous cinematography so it's the odd one out.
Posted by The Cruentus
 - Mar 24, 2024, 10:37:18 PM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 24, 2024, 09:37:03 PMResurrection is beautiful on blu.

Aliens will always be the worst looking of the films regardless of format.

Its to do with how they filmed it right? So its got that film grain even in hd.
Posted by BlueMarsalis79
 - Mar 24, 2024, 09:39:39 PM
Mhm, maybe I am incorrect about Resurrection, been a minute.

And agreed... ? But I am talking presentation of what exists, not the film stock or aesthetics or anything like that. 

(Apparently several sounds are missing from the atmos, part of the box hitting Gorman, the ramp closing sound after Spunkmeyer turns up, the "a lot of these parasites" line sounds better than before.)
Posted by SiL
 - Mar 24, 2024, 09:37:03 PM
Resurrection is beautiful on blu.

Aliens will always be the worst looking of the films regardless of format.
Posted by BlueMarsalis79
 - Mar 24, 2024, 09:32:35 PM
Aliens on Blu-ray looks damn good, AlienĀ³ restored stuff not so much, Alien Resurrection pretty rarely.





From filmic to a soap opera.
Posted by SiL
 - Mar 24, 2024, 09:23:50 PM
No, I don't think I will.
Posted by BlueMarsalis79
 - Mar 24, 2024, 09:14:58 PM
Agree to disagree parts of AlienĀ³ and most of Resurrection are barely any better than the DVD on Blu-ray.
Posted by SiL
 - Mar 24, 2024, 09:12:35 PM
Aliens is the worst looking of the films in any format.
Posted by BlueMarsalis79
 - Mar 24, 2024, 09:09:38 PM
Aliens will be the worst looking of the Alien films in 4K and that's nuts.
Posted by E. Shaw
 - Mar 24, 2024, 08:55:36 PM
Quote from: Nukiemorph on Feb 24, 2021, 12:26:00 AMWouldn't be too surprised if this was true... but I'll be very surprised if they give the 4K effort to the assembly cut.

The Assembly Cut needs it, the audio is bad in places, sounds like static school announcement mike in parts when they re-inserted scenes.
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