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Title: Blomkamp's Alien 5 Would Have Been Mo-Capped
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 13, 2020, 08:04:09 PM
During the InHouse Con I asked Tom if he would have been in the suit for Alienkamp, but he said it would have been using mo-capping. Always suspected this would be the case, and I'd have been quite interested to see how that turned out given the quality of Chappie and the Prawns.
Title: Re: Blomkamp's Alien 5 Would Have Been Mo-Capped
Post by: j0nesy on Jun 13, 2020, 08:07:06 PM
i remember how impressive the cg was for the prawns in district 9

also, tom saying he was too wide for the alien suit now :laugh:
Title: Re: Blomkamp's Alien 5 Would Have Been Mo-Capped
Post by: SiL on Jun 13, 2020, 10:13:47 PM
Kind of disappointing to think we'll likely never see another guy in a suit Alien on screen again  :(
Title: Re: Blomkamp's Alien 5 Would Have Been Mo-Capped
Post by: SM on Jun 13, 2020, 10:40:53 PM
Considering how much the new Star Wars flicks went more back to real sets and people in suits over CGI, it wouldn't surprise me if they went back a suits at some point depending on the director.  Even Ridley went with Sean Harris in a suit over the Weta CG monster.

On the other hand, as much as I dig Woodruff, his last turn in the suit wasn't exactly a triumph.
Title: Re: Blomkamp's Alien 5 Would Have Been Mo-Capped
Post by: j0nesy on Jun 13, 2020, 11:13:12 PM
was anyone else a fan of how harris' fifield cg abomination turned out? i thought it looked pretty decent
Title: Re: Blomkamp's Alien 5 Would Have Been Mo-Capped
Post by: SM on Jun 13, 2020, 11:22:05 PM
It looked alright.

Harris in the suit looked better.
Title: Re: Blomkamp's Alien 5 Would Have Been Mo-Capped
Post by: j0nesy on Jun 13, 2020, 11:38:04 PM
i agree! though i would have liked to see more of a complete version of the cg monster

(https://i.imgur.com/GkDggpx.jpg)
Title: Re: Blomkamp's Alien 5 Would Have Been Mo-Capped
Post by: Evanus on Jun 14, 2020, 01:13:27 AM
I like the CG design better, but the quality is a little rough. Film version is still pretty cool though.
Title: Re: Blomkamp's Alien 5 Would Have Been Mo-Capped
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 14, 2020, 10:25:23 AM
Yeah, I prefer the CG design too. Looks more noticeably Alien influenced.
Title: Re: Blomkamp's Alien 5 Would Have Been Mo-Capped
Post by: SM on Jun 14, 2020, 10:31:54 AM
Looks more noticeably computer generated too.
Title: Re: Blomkamp's Alien 5 Would Have Been Mo-Capped
Post by: 426Buddy on Jun 14, 2020, 11:31:13 AM
Prefer the CG version. Besides wouldnt it have been more complete and polished if it was in the final film?
Title: Re: Blomkamp's Alien 5 Would Have Been Mo-Capped
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Jun 14, 2020, 05:22:14 PM
Yeah. The CG version would have been improved if it had been part of the movie. However, I'd have been happier with a balance of special effects. Something like a practical puppet at the start of the scene, and the CG when the action begins.
Title: Re: Blomkamp's Alien 5 Would Have Been Mo-Capped
Post by: Kradan on Jun 14, 2020, 05:23:44 PM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Jun 14, 2020, 05:22:14 PM
balance of special effects.

This
Title: Re: Blomkamp's Alien 5 Would Have Been Mo-Capped
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Jun 14, 2020, 05:26:34 PM
Speaking just in terms of the design, and not the execution/type of effect, I prefer the scrapped version.
Title: Re: Blomkamp's Alien 5 Would Have Been Mo-Capped
Post by: Kradan on Jun 14, 2020, 05:28:57 PM
You mean four-armed one ? It was the closest to Big Chap thing I've ever seen
Title: Re: Blomkamp's Alien 5 Would Have Been Mo-Capped
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Jun 14, 2020, 05:45:04 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Jun 14, 2020, 05:28:57 PM
You mean four-armed one ? It was the closest to Big Chap thing I've ever seen

Yeah, that one was cool. The design was more biomechanical and had jaws similar to those of the Deacon / Neomorph.

But overall I never expected, nor did I ever want to have a zombie-looking mutant in an Alien movie.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Blomkamp's Alien 5 Would Have Been Mo-Capped
Post by: SM on Jun 14, 2020, 08:09:10 PM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Jun 14, 2020, 11:31:13 AM
Prefer the CG version. Besides wouldnt it have been more complete and polished if it was in the final film?

Wasn't that the final version?

My issue was more the performance.
Title: Re: Blomkamp's Alien 5 Would Have Been Mo-Capped
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Jun 14, 2020, 09:00:14 PM
Quote from: j0nesy on Jun 13, 2020, 11:38:04 PM
i agree! though i would have liked to see more of a complete version of the cg monster

(https://i.imgur.com/GkDggpx.jpg)

This was creepy AF.  It would have been preferred.
Title: Re: Blomkamp's Alien 5 Would Have Been Mo-Capped
Post by: 426Buddy on Jun 14, 2020, 11:24:09 PM
Quote from: SM on Jun 14, 2020, 08:09:10 PM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Jun 14, 2020, 11:31:13 AM
Prefer the CG version. Besides wouldnt it have been more complete and polished if it was in the final film?

Wasn't that the final version?

My issue was more the performance.

I guess it depends when the decision to cut it was. Don't they work on and improve CG up until release? I always assumed the CG was a work in progress for some reason.
Title: Re: Blomkamp's Alien 5 Would Have Been Mo-Capped
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 15, 2020, 09:00:31 AM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jun 14, 2020, 05:26:34 PM
Speaking just in terms of the design, and not the execution/type of effect, I prefer the scrapped version.

Assuming you're talking the Fifield monster, that's a better way of putting it. I definitely prefer the design of the CGI version, but I don't believe they ever actually finished work on the CG effect.
Title: Re: Blomkamp's Alien 5 Would Have Been Mo-Capped
Post by: 426Buddy on Jun 15, 2020, 10:57:44 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 15, 2020, 09:00:31 AM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jun 14, 2020, 05:26:34 PM
Speaking just in terms of the design, and not the execution/type of effect, I prefer the scrapped version.

Assuming you're talking the Fifield monster, that's a better way of putting it. I definitely prefer the design of the CGI version, but I don't believe they ever actually finished work on the CG effect.

This is what I was talking about, I feel the same.
Title: Re: Blomkamp's Alien 5 Would Have Been Mo-Capped
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Jun 15, 2020, 11:15:37 PM
CG Fifield is teaser quality.
Title: Re: Blomkamp's Alien 5 Would Have Been Mo-Capped
Post by: Kane's other son on Jun 17, 2020, 04:51:09 PM
The CG Fifield looked great but moved like a chimp. The sub-par animation killed that version of the character
Title: Re: Blomkamp's Alien 5 Would Have Been Mo-Capped
Post by: Local Trouble on Jun 17, 2020, 04:54:44 PM
Just another reason to hate Fifield.
Title: Re: Blomkamp's Alien 5 Would Have Been Mo-Capped
Post by: Drukathi on Jun 17, 2020, 06:30:33 PM
HEY! He is the space dwarf-viking! Don't hate him! :D
Title: Re: Blomkamp's Alien 5 Would Have Been Mo-Capped
Post by: Local Trouble on Jun 17, 2020, 06:36:09 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 15, 2018, 11:38:57 AM
I bet even rocks hate Fifield.
Title: Re: Blomkamp's Alien 5 Would Have Been Mo-Capped
Post by: Drukathi on Jun 17, 2020, 06:44:35 PM
Unlike people, stones have a serious reason...
Title: Re: Blomkamp's Alien 5 Would Have Been Mo-Capped
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Jun 18, 2020, 04:30:02 AM
Moral of the story: Don't smoke "tobacco", or you're going to end up as Fifield.
Title: Re: Blomkamp's Alien 5 Would Have Been Mo-Capped
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Jun 18, 2020, 01:03:18 PM
There's no way that was tobacco.
Title: Re: Blomkamp's Alien 5 Would Have Been Mo-Capped
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Jun 19, 2020, 11:43:22 PM
Then maybe the only real part of the movie is everything before the "tobacco" scene. The other part is half real, half trip.

(https://i.imgur.com/Y0mgxR1.gif)

Moral of the story: Don't mixt THC with Black goo.
Title: Re: Blomkamp's Alien 5 Would Have Been Mo-Capped
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Jun 20, 2020, 02:11:44 AM
It would explain how the boy with the mapping equipment got lost.