Posted by PAS Spinelli
- Sep 12, 2021, 03:30:13 PMThere are special downed and kill animations
Prowler's down animation is the same, but he leaves no hole
the Drone's is also a tail stab, but he aims at the chest instead of the head
The Warrior impales the marine through the chest, then throws them at the floor
Huggers do indeed fall off
Stalkers just stab you with their legs, no use of the mouth in both animations
Prowler's down animation is the same, but he leaves no hole
the Drone's is also a tail stab, but he aims at the chest instead of the head
The Warrior impales the marine through the chest, then throws them at the floor
Huggers do indeed fall off
Stalkers just stab you with their legs, no use of the mouth in both animations
Posted by RidgeTop
- Sep 12, 2021, 05:58:48 AMRight, I don't think this thread was started with the intention of another debate. Let's keep it on topic.
That was a nice compilation PAS Spinelli, looks like you're trying out that Unreal Engine Unlocker Tool.
The grapple kills are pretty sweet looking, and it's nice to see that you actually can be facehugged, though I think if it's a lower difficulty you just get downed and it falls off.
Would've been nice if there was a bit more, I'm curious about the Stalker kill animation as well.
This also reminds me of all those cool Alien trophy kills from AvP 2010 and ACM.
That was a nice compilation PAS Spinelli, looks like you're trying out that Unreal Engine Unlocker Tool.
The grapple kills are pretty sweet looking, and it's nice to see that you actually can be facehugged, though I think if it's a lower difficulty you just get downed and it falls off.
Would've been nice if there was a bit more, I'm curious about the Stalker kill animation as well.
This also reminds me of all those cool Alien trophy kills from AvP 2010 and ACM.
Posted by Drukathi
- Sep 12, 2021, 05:14:55 AMQuote from: 426Buddy on Sep 11, 2021, 09:43:47 PM
Sounds like you're only interested in your own narrow interpretation.
Nah. I said the right things. All people on this forum act similarly. But the same words from different mouths are perceived differently, depending on the speaker.
Posted by Huggs
- Sep 11, 2021, 11:28:15 PMStrange hill to die on.
Posted by SiL
- Sep 11, 2021, 11:10:07 PMCameron didn't misunderstand anything. The original film doesn't "implement" the adult not having acid blood. Just the opposite, it's the reason they don't just shoot it with a laser pistol and call it a day.
Posted by 426Buddy
- Sep 11, 2021, 09:43:47 PMSounds like you're only interested in your own narrow interpretation.
Posted by Drukathi
- Sep 11, 2021, 08:02:52 PMQuote from: 426Buddy on Sep 11, 2021, 07:34:22 PM
The adult was intended to have acid blood in the original film...
Leave such words for a filming history. Here the difference is more than the whole space between "intended to have" and "was implemented". Also OG Alien intended to be a very very very fragile organism. But it's not on the screen.
Posted by 426Buddy
- Sep 11, 2021, 07:34:22 PMQuote from: Drukathi on Sep 11, 2021, 06:25:53 PM
Wrong. Adult xenos doesn't have acid blood, only facehuggers have it. Cameron misunderstanding things and screw up the universe.
The adult was intended to have acid blood in the original film...
There was even a scene that would have had the adult injured and the blood damages everything causing a decompression in the airlock. They were just not able to film it with the limitations of the suit as far as I remember.
Posted by PAS Spinelli
- Sep 11, 2021, 07:18:14 PMMan can y'all stop hijacking AFTE threads to change the topic to nitpicks about how the alien isn't invincible
Posted by razeak
- Sep 11, 2021, 06:54:00 PMQuote from: SiL on Sep 08, 2021, 12:20:52 PM
Hicks has the shotgun in its mouth, Vasquez shoots the Alien first and has leverage in a tight space (and then continues shooting the Alien in the head point blank immediately) and the facehugger would've beat Ripley if others hadn't helped.
People misrepresenting Aliens to make it seem worse than it is never not in vogue it seems.
Agree on those points. Its probable the xeno even pulled back some when probably for the first time in its life, someone shoved steel barrel in it's mouth lol.
Vasquez did indeed have leverage in a tight space and I always looked at that scene as the alien didn't have a good purchase yet. I do think it still looks a bit weaker there, but it was wounded and she had incredible mechanical advantage for 2 seconds.
Maybe I need to rewatch the Dillon scene. I thought he was talking shit while being mauled until he couldn't take the pain any more.
Posted by Drukathi
- Sep 11, 2021, 06:25:53 PMWrong. Adult xenos doesn't have acid blood, only facehuggers have it. Cameron misunderstanding things and screw up the universe.
Posted by SpreadEagleBeagle
- Sep 11, 2021, 03:45:04 PMTo anyone bringing up the grappling harpoon gun in ALIEN as some kind of proof that Xenos are weak and easy to take down: Yeah, the grappling harpoon lodges itself between its ribs, and although there's is what looks like a light spray of acid blood coming out once it's hit, we see no more blood coming out after the initial hit (...so one could therefore argue that the harpoon only "scratched" the Xeno as it hit and literally lodged itself in the rib structure, rather than actually penetrating it Xenomorph. Remember, the harpoon has grapplers that unfold once it hits and the Xeno has an accentuated, protruding, open rib structure, so the harpoon lodging itself without truly penetrating its chitin is not as much of a fluke as it seems. If the harpoon had indeed truly penetrated and wounded the Xeno, the wound would have been large and messy, gushing blood, due to the prongs/grapplers and large entry hole, and we would've seen lots of bleeding...).
In fact, the Xeno seems completely unphased by the harpoon other than the obvious fact that it's attached to its wire. In fact, the Xeno makes its way back to the shuttle after Ripley closes the door and then survives a looong spaceship jet blast, which has seemingly no effect on it either other than it being pushed away from the shuttle, propelling it into space. So according to that scene flamethrowers, incendiary weapons, plasma and the blast of an explosion (not counting the shrapnel of course) should have limited to no effect on Xenomorphs. Actually, the Runner's lead bath also confirms its resistance towards immense heat, fire and pressure.
Back to the harpoon: Also, had it truly punched through the Xeno's carapace/hide, the acid blood would've corroded the harpoon (and the wire) quickly, having it snap and break, and the Xeno would've been released in no time. To it seems more likely that the harpoon lodged itself inside the outer intricacy of the Xenomorph's exoskeletal rib structure as the prongs/grapplers sprung right after impact. The initial tiny blood spray we see comes from scratching the outer layer/membrane covering the creature.
Anyways, that's been my interpretation since the first time I watched ALIEN.
In fact, the Xeno seems completely unphased by the harpoon other than the obvious fact that it's attached to its wire. In fact, the Xeno makes its way back to the shuttle after Ripley closes the door and then survives a looong spaceship jet blast, which has seemingly no effect on it either other than it being pushed away from the shuttle, propelling it into space. So according to that scene flamethrowers, incendiary weapons, plasma and the blast of an explosion (not counting the shrapnel of course) should have limited to no effect on Xenomorphs. Actually, the Runner's lead bath also confirms its resistance towards immense heat, fire and pressure.
Back to the harpoon: Also, had it truly punched through the Xeno's carapace/hide, the acid blood would've corroded the harpoon (and the wire) quickly, having it snap and break, and the Xeno would've been released in no time. To it seems more likely that the harpoon lodged itself inside the outer intricacy of the Xenomorph's exoskeletal rib structure as the prongs/grapplers sprung right after impact. The initial tiny blood spray we see comes from scratching the outer layer/membrane covering the creature.
Anyways, that's been my interpretation since the first time I watched ALIEN.
Posted by SiL
- Sep 10, 2021, 12:39:33 AMQuote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 08, 2021, 12:56:35 PMPeople forget the thing bleeds acid specifically because they didn't want it to be bullet proof.
to Ripley being able to penetrate the Alien's hide with a small grappling hook.
Posted by tralaritralara
- Sep 08, 2021, 07:25:05 PMWrestling an alien like in this game and avp2010 isn't good stuff, even if the AI was as epic as it was in that game. My two cents.
I have played it first time today in a friend's house. Nice fun, but those runners...
The game will also need a lot of DLC soon as it gets repetitive. The drone card, whatever is the name is a very good idea btw.
I have played it first time today in a friend's house. Nice fun, but those runners...
The game will also need a lot of DLC soon as it gets repetitive. The drone card, whatever is the name is a very good idea btw.
Posted by judge death
- Sep 08, 2021, 06:52:12 PMQuote from: Drukathi on Sep 08, 2021, 01:38:33 PMXenos are way stronger than a wrestler
True.
Aliens never were a doom's day death machines. They are like slasher maniacs, but beasts. Alien can easily kill you due sudden attack, high speed and silence, but if you notice it first and you have a weapon - well: Game over, alien, GAME OVER!
Maybe elephant-size queen can rip an android and a man apart, but a classic alien - not powerful, than wrestling star.
Heck even weyland yutani book says a xeno can crush a humans skull with its bare hands and dont forget we can see them in the movies break down armoured doors. But yes they arent super killing machines like you say.Sil is right too: Vazques shot the xeno in one of the weakspots in the head and it fell down injured where she could use a easy martial art trick to pin its head into the wall and as it was already injured it didnt resist and died soon after.
The runner was like an animal just toying with several of the humans in the movie and dillon too while when it was angry and wanted to kill one, it did ina second and lift humans with ease.
But in the end its a opinion as we dont exactly have data on it besides what the books says and we see them do at times, although in the movies it depends on the plot what will happen.But I point to my post in another thread where the issue with why xenos in the game are killed in the thousands and is at times weaker than they should be, in short: its a arcade shoter and a horde shoter
