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Title: NEW Ridley Scott talkes Prometheus (Empire Article)
Post by: Gazz on Dec 16, 2011, 12:50:10 PM
New article in this months issue of Empire.

Quote"He was marvellous, but he's cooked," laughs 74 year old Ridley Scott of the Nostromo's unforgettable chestbursting stowaway. "He's now got an orange in his mouth." What Alien's famous director wants to make clear, as post production on his much-vaunted $100 million, 3D return to the science-fiction genre, draws close, is that he has gone back to the universe of his groundbreaking classic, but he's also moved on. "I felt there was still life in the old sod, but it has evolved into something else. To stick to the story, you don't really get it until about eight minutes from the end." Deep down in its scaly heart, Prometheus is an Alien prequel, but not as we know it.

It certainly embraces the Alien aesthetic; that biomechanoid phantasmagoria born of  H.R. Gigers pervy art and his director's unerring eye. "It does," agrees Scott ",but it's also different..." This is as much a metter of scope as anything. With a much bigger budget, Scott has been utlising all the tools availible to him: high-end digital effects ("Avatar set the bar high"), filming in 3D ("You engage more, you're drawn in") and building massive Giger-esque sets across Pinewood that oozed the atmosphere that defined his career ("I still believe in putting in the proscenium")

The cast went giddy at the belly-of-the-beast effect of the giant sets. If Alien was a souped-up B-Movie, then Prometheus is a biblical epic. "Alien felt epic," says Scott ", but this one is Epic."

Barring a beach scene in the long cut of Alien 3, the new film will feature the franchise's first genuine exterior, with Iceland's black lava fields providing the new planet's hardscrabble surface (LV-426 was created on a soundstage). Thematically, too, it's gone big. This is God versus Science, and  the survival of not just the crew (most of whom probably don't) but mankind itself. In other words, there is a whole 2001-vibe going on. "It's gone off in a new direction," boasts Scott ", but I promise it will engage you in the first five minutes."

The script, written by Jon Spaihts and Lost's Damon Lindelof, based on "one single thought" Scott drew from the original, initially follows a familiar arc. The crew of the Prometheus (the ship's name designed to echo the Greek myth) follow a perplexing message to a planet that will open their eyes and their chests to a new alien race. "A crew of scientists embark on a journey somebody else is paying for," says the director, referring to the fact Charlize Theron's Meredith Vickers is a "suit" for a certain Weyland-Yutani. Meanwhile, Michael Fassbender may or may not be an early model of Ash's android and may or may not be trustworthy. And Noomi Rapace's archaeologist heroine, Elizabeth Shaw - a spiritual cousin to "Rippers" - is one half of a conflicted couple of Logan Marshall-Green's Holloway: "One comes from a position of faith, and the other is pure scientist," details Scott. Both are going to have a lot to swallow.

Even at the time of Alien, some 32 years ago, Scott mentioned he was interested in exploring the origins of the 'Space Jockey', the dead pilot of the derelict "space croissant". He talked about bioengineering and biological warfare as potential themes. Has he been able to satisfy his curiosity in that respect? "Definitely." And what significance can we draw from the pictures slowly being released, especially the giant humanoid 'head' that looms over what Scott terms the "ampule chamber"? "Oh there's a lot more to it," he says wafting explanations away, "I've locked up all the sweet stuff..." Including something familiar, perhaps?

Source: Empire Magazine Issue 272 - Feb 2012
Title: Re: NEW Ridley Scott talkes Prometheus (Empire Article)
Post by: Blacklabel on Dec 16, 2011, 12:55:52 PM
Quote from: Sir Madafaking Ridley Scott"Alien felt epic," says Scott ", but this one is Epic."

What a tease!  :D
Title: Re: NEW Ridley Scott talkes Prometheus (Empire Article)
Post by: ThisBethesdaSea on Dec 16, 2011, 12:59:51 PM
This little diddy is very reassuring.
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Post by: EEV-2501 on Dec 16, 2011, 01:03:39 PM
The ultimate Movie !
Title: Re: NEW Ridley Scott talkes Prometheus (Empire Article)
Post by: Dogme on Dec 16, 2011, 01:05:19 PM
Quote from: Blacklabel on Dec 16, 2011, 12:55:52 PM
Quote from: Sir Madafaking Ridley Scott"Alien felt epic," says Scott ", but this one is Epic."

What a tease!  :D
He's teasing us and we love it :D
Title: Re: NEW Ridley Scott talkes Prometheus (Empire Article)
Post by: BISHOP 93 on Dec 16, 2011, 01:35:19 PM
Sweet
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Post by: atlantis on Dec 16, 2011, 01:38:33 PM
☺ love it ☺
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Title: Re: NEW Ridley Scott talkes Prometheus (Empire Article)
Post by: Firestorm on Dec 16, 2011, 01:47:28 PM
Thats prob the best interview/statement i've read yet from Scott regarding Prometheus.
Title: Re: NEW Ridley Scott talkes Prometheus (Empire Article)
Post by: Snowdog on Dec 16, 2011, 01:47:44 PM
Damn Scott knows how to tease his fans :laugh: And i love it :-X But now he makes me even more curious.
Title: Re: NEW Ridley Scott talkes Prometheus (Empire Article)
Post by: Michael Harper on Dec 16, 2011, 01:49:18 PM
Is that confirmation of a $100,000,000 budget?
Title: Re: NEW Ridley Scott talkes Prometheus (Empire Article)
Post by: Snowdog on Dec 16, 2011, 01:51:12 PM
Quote from: Michael Harper on Dec 16, 2011, 01:49:18 PM
Is that confirmation of a $100,000,000 budget?

I guess so 8) Also the little alien prequel confirmation makes me pretty happy. We all know deep down it will be a prequel of some sorts but still ;D And anything familiar maybe :o
Title: Re: NEW Ridley Scott talkes Prometheus (Empire Article)
Post by: JaaayDee on Dec 16, 2011, 02:00:30 PM
Quote from: Michael Harper on Dec 16, 2011, 01:49:18 PM
Is that confirmation of a $100,000,000 budget?

That isn't really much at all.  Maybe that justifies for an R rating.
Title: Re: NEW Ridley Scott talkes Prometheus (Empire Article)
Post by: nendo on Dec 16, 2011, 02:12:04 PM
Quote from: JaaayDee on Dec 16, 2011, 02:00:30 PM
Quote from: Michael Harper on Dec 16, 2011, 01:49:18 PM
Is that confirmation of a $100,000,000 budget?

That isn't really much at all.  Maybe that justifies for an R rating.

Depends on what your compairing it too. Blockbuster then it would be about right. For average films is a lot. Average action movies these days are around 40-50 million.

Theres only realy a few that pass the £100 million mark. But you hear about them more so you would think that is the average. when its not. Its the top end
Title: Re: NEW Ridley Scott talkes Prometheus (Empire Article)
Post by: Darkoo on Dec 16, 2011, 02:24:40 PM
Here is a look at the cover
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.comicbookmovie.com%2Fimages%2Fusers%2Fuploads%2F8073%2FEmpire-Amazing-2012-Preview-cover-e1324042847191-450x600.jpg&hash=41d9ee855b992305b61e5d4ae10b1eec86ad5fa1)
Title: Re: NEW Ridley Scott talkes Prometheus (Empire Article)
Post by: ryanjayhawk on Dec 16, 2011, 02:28:53 PM
"I've locked up all the sweet stuff"

Hopefully that means the trailer that's leaked really has showed us nothing... in comparison to what we havent seen?
Title: Re: NEW Ridley Scott talkes Prometheus (Empire Article)
Post by: Mr. Clemens on Dec 16, 2011, 02:36:15 PM
Feeling so good about this movie!  8)
Title: Re: NEW Ridley Scott talkes Prometheus (Empire Article...
Post by: Engineer1 on Dec 16, 2011, 02:38:02 PM
You tought that he was gonna shoot all his load in a 1/2 mins trailer and spoil the movie?
Title: Re: NEW Ridley Scott talkes Prometheus (Empire Article)
Post by: BonesawT101 on Dec 16, 2011, 02:45:41 PM
something familiar? The Alien as we know it perhaps? or maybe the spacejockey
Title: Re: NEW Ridley Scott talkes Prometheus (Empire Article)
Post by: zuzuki on Dec 16, 2011, 02:48:02 PM
Quote from: Gazz on Dec 16, 2011, 12:50:10 PM
New article in this months issue of Empire.

QuoteThe crew of the Prometheus (the ship's name designed to echo the Greek myth) follow a perplexing message to a planet that will open their eyes and their chests to a new alien race.

Source: Empire Magazine Issue 272 - Feb 2012

yes please ;D
Title: Re: NEW Ridley Scott talkes Prometheus (Empire Article)
Post by: JayHy17 on Dec 16, 2011, 04:36:11 PM
Awesome read! I mean really, this is connected. Its connected so much that it does make it a part of the franchise. SO PUMPED!
Title: Re: NEW Ridley Scott talkes Prometheus (Empire Article)
Post by: Mustangjeff on Dec 16, 2011, 04:48:19 PM
Quote from: zuzuki on Dec 16, 2011, 02:48:02 PM
Quote from: Gazz on Dec 16, 2011, 12:50:10 PM
New article in this months issue of Empire.

QuoteThe crew of the Prometheus (the ship's name designed to echo the Greek myth) follow a perplexing message to a planet that will open their eyes and their chests to a new alien race.

Source: Empire Magazine Issue 272 - Feb 2012

yes please ;D

Although I would feel better if that was a quote from Ridley Scott.
Title: Re: NEW Ridley Scott talkes Prometheus (Empire Article)
Post by: tonton on Dec 16, 2011, 04:59:21 PM
Amazing article.

I can't freaking wait for the trailer.
Title: Re: NEW Ridley Scott talkes Prometheus (Empire Article...
Post by: ryanjayhawk on Dec 16, 2011, 05:05:18 PM
Quote from: Engineer1 on Dec 16, 2011, 02:38:02 PM
You tought that he was gonna shoot all his load in a 1/2 mins trailer and spoil the movie?

How many movie trailers in hindsight have given away pretty much the entire movie?  Further what has the leaked trailers provided us with...

1. Ampules/Urns
2. Giant Head
3. Dead Body / Abandaoned Space Suit
4. Egg which is extremely similar to the egg from Alien even down to the opening at the top
5. What some will argue is "creature" footage
6. Impregnated Female
7. Green Goo presumably from Ampule/Urns

If one through seven doesn't even count as the "sweet stuff" R. Scott was mentioning than I'm extremely excited for the movie.  I assumed he would keep the good stuff under wraps, but when that much stuff is provided in the trailer it makes you worried that to much has been given away.
Title: Re: NEW Ridley Scott talkes Prometheus (Empire Article)
Post by: Mr. Clemens on Dec 16, 2011, 05:13:00 PM
Quote from: Mustangjeff on Dec 16, 2011, 04:48:19 PMAlthough I would feel better if that was a quote from Ridley Scott.

Yes, I think that's a case of a writer trying to be clever without actually knowing anything.
Title: Re: NEW Ridley Scott talkes Prometheus (Empire Article...
Post by: Xenomorphine on Dec 16, 2011, 06:22:15 PM
Quote from: Gazz on Dec 16, 2011, 12:50:10 PM
"A crew of scientists embark on a journey somebody else is paying for,"

'Jurassic Park' in spaaaaaaaaace!

QuoteBoth are going to have a lot to swallow.

Oh, Ridley, you card...

Quote from: ryanjayhawk on Dec 16, 2011, 05:05:18 PM
Egg which is extremely similar to the egg from Alien even down to the opening at the top

According to some interpretations. Not one I'd agree with. The only thing anyone can definitely agree upon is that it's 'something'.
Title: Re: NEW Ridley Scott talkes Prometheus (Empire Article)
Post by: Infected on Dec 16, 2011, 07:16:08 PM
74 years old? gotta respect this guy.
I am certain he will bring for me the best movie of 2012.
Title: Re: NEW Ridley Scott talkes Prometheus (Empire Article...
Post by: ryanjayhawk on Dec 16, 2011, 08:45:57 PM
Quote from: ryanjayhawk on Dec 16, 2011, 05:05:18 PM
Egg which is extremely similar to the egg from Alien even down to the opening at the top

According to some interpretations. Not one I'd agree with. The only thing anyone can definitely agree upon is that it's 'something'.
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I should have clarified the egg was not from the trailer... it was from one of the production stills they released that was enhanced for clarity.
Title: Re: NEW Ridley Scott talkes Prometheus (Empire Article)
Post by: MrSpaceJockey on Dec 16, 2011, 09:03:26 PM
Yeah, and so?  I know what you are referring to, and those are still some shady interpretations.  They aren't eggs, as far as I'm concerned.  They look like they're made of rock.
Title: Re: NEW Ridley Scott talkes Prometheus (Empire Article)
Post by: ChrisPachi on Dec 16, 2011, 09:35:00 PM
There is a fair bit of stuff in the article that is not Ridley's actual words, mostly insinuation by the article's author. Scott doesn't say much of anything in here that we haven't heard before, however...

QuoteHe talked about bioengineering and biological warfare as potential themes. Has he been able to satisfy his curiosity in that respect? "Definitely."

That's good. Thanks for the transcription Gazz!

-Chris
Title: Re: NEW Ridley Scott talkes Prometheus (Empire Article)
Post by: T Dog on Dec 17, 2011, 01:10:51 AM
By the way who wrote the article. Was it the author of Alien Vault, Ian Nathan by chance?
If so, that guy is definitely in the know of things to expect in Prometheus, so he would have a greater license to accurately fill in the gaps in the article.
Title: Re: NEW Ridley Scott talkes Prometheus (Empire Article)
Post by: ryanjayhawk on Dec 17, 2011, 01:31:10 AM
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Dec 16, 2011, 09:03:26 PM
Yeah, and so?  I know what you are referring to, and those are still some shady interpretations.  They aren't eggs, as far as I'm concerned.  They look like they're made of rock.

Yeah an so apparently it's a rock with a couple vaginas on top then lol
Title: Re: NEW Ridley Scott talkes Prometheus (Empire Article...
Post by: Xenomorphine on Dec 17, 2011, 02:29:33 AM
Quote from: ryanjayhawk on Dec 16, 2011, 08:45:57 PM
I should have clarified the egg was not from the trailer... it was from one of the production stills they released that was enhanced for clarity.

I know what you're referring to and there's still nothing 'that's-definitely-an-egg' about it. A lot of people also claim they're just as sure it's a dead Space Jockey head, too. Others think it's an unconscious astronaut.

Besides which, it wouldn't make sense for a single, solitary Alien egg to be randomly situated in a room full of metal urns.

Personally, I think we should wait and see.
Title: Re: NEW Ridley Scott talkes Prometheus (Empire Article...
Post by: ryanjayhawk on Dec 17, 2011, 03:16:12 PM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Dec 17, 2011, 02:29:33 AM
Quote from: ryanjayhawk on Dec 16, 2011, 08:45:57 PM
I should have clarified the egg was not from the trailer... it was from one of the production stills they released that was enhanced for clarity.

I know what you're referring to and there's still nothing 'that's-definitely-an-egg' about it. A lot of people also claim they're just as sure it's a dead Space Jockey head, too. Others think it's an unconscious astronaut.

Besides which, it wouldn't make sense for a single, solitary Alien egg to be randomly situated in a room full of metal urns.

Personally, I think we should wait and see.

If you are talking about the thing they are shining their light on then no thats not the picture I saw... I'm with you on that, I have no idea what that is... it does seem to round to be the head...
Title: Re: NEW Ridley Scott talkes Prometheus (Empire Article)
Post by: Ash 937 on Dec 17, 2011, 03:27:57 PM
With all of this talk about Prometheus deviating from the original Alien formula,  I can't help buy feel a little more regretful that Vincent Ward wasn't allowed to do what he wanted with his wooden planet story for Alien3.  I feel like Scott is really going to develop this universe with both religious and mythological symbolism that, while different from Ward's vision, could've served to compliment each other by expanding our scope of this universe in their own way. 

Monks in Alien3 would served as an interesting counterpoint to Ridley's new origin-of-man story.

I think that doing something like is only made possible by FOX because Ridley is behind it and he has a lot of push to do his own thing under the trust of the suits.  Ward, on the other hand, was essentially a non-name to them and therefore was both restricted and fired for deviating from the formula too much.

Just a thought.
Title: Re: NEW Ridley Scott talkes Prometheus (Empire Article)
Post by: SpreadEagleBeagle on Dec 17, 2011, 05:36:56 PM
Not a big fan of the religious/epic take on the Alien universe. I like it cold, harsh, dark and sober and oh so hostile to us humans; we were never meant to leave Earth since we don't belong out there in that endless godless void. I want nihilism god damn it!
Title: Re: NEW Ridley Scott talkes Prometheus (Empire Article)
Post by: Gash on Dec 17, 2011, 05:42:20 PM
Quote from: SpreadEagleBeagle on Dec 17, 2011, 05:36:56 PM
Not a big fan of the religious/epic take on the Alien universe. I like it cold, harsh, dark and sober and oh so hostile to us humans; we were never meant to leave Earth since we don't belong out there in that endless godless void. I want nihilism god damn it!

I suspect it's using religion only as a way of referencing it's part in human history. Even confirmed atheists like me have to accept the impact of religion on the development of the world - good and bad. Elizabeth Shaw apparently sets off as a scientist/archeologist with faith but then has to re-evaluate what it all means. I'm sure there will be nastiness and nihilism aplenty.
Title: Re: NEW Ridley Scott talkes Prometheus (Empire Article)
Post by: zuzuki on Dec 17, 2011, 05:48:33 PM
Quote from: Gash on Dec 17, 2011, 05:42:20 PM
Quote from: SpreadEagleBeagle on Dec 17, 2011, 05:36:56 PM
Not a big fan of the religious/epic take on the Alien universe. I like it cold, harsh, dark and sober and oh so hostile to us humans; we were never meant to leave Earth since we don't belong out there in that endless godless void. I want nihilism god damn it!

I suspect it's using religion only as a way of referencing it's part in human history. Even confirmed atheists like me have to accept the impact of religion on the development of the world - good and bad. Elizabeth Shaw apparently sets off as a scientist/archeologist with faith but then has to re-evaluate what it all means. I'm sure there will be nastiness and nihilism aplenty.

the whole god versus science,faith versus science is all lindelof.i liked it in lost,he defended it pretty good,but i don't want it again in this movie. probably this was his part in the writing process. take the dark themed script spaihts did based on ridleys concept,and polish it to be more friendly,more accesible to the general audience with a pleasing story. i'm not saying the movie won't be dark,or be campy,but it was probably toned down a bit
Title: Re: NEW Ridley Scott talkes Prometheus (Empire Article)
Post by: SpreadEagleBeagle on Dec 17, 2011, 06:30:05 PM
I know, I know...

What I really don't like is the "epic" part. Epic doesn't fit Alien, at least not in the universe settled in the movies.

And btw. the more I look at that humongous white dude's face the more it bothers me...