We’ve just uploaded an article on the Predators script that Rodriguez wrote over a decade ago:
“For years we all knew of the infamous Rodriguez script. The epic tale set aboard a Spanish Galleon with an estimated budget of $150 million! It was every Predator fan’s dream, surely. It was written by Robert Rodriguez in 1996 as a writing assignment for some fun. It’s been largely hidden from the public but is available on the internet. This article will take a look at this infamous script and whether it's actually entertaining. Well, here goes…”
The article covers a story summary, the main characters, how the script develops the predators and my own personal opinion on it. Just a reminder that this isn’t the script for the current Predators but the original script Rodriguez wrote in the early 90s. Check the article out.
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Cheers for that Hicks.
I only managed to read a few pages of the script, couldn't make myself read any more due the lameness of it. After reading your summary of it im glad i didnt! The whole Predators training camp and pretty much everything else was very bad and made me cringe big time!!!
A Good summary there Hicks bud.
I've never read a so bad script.
It sounds more as a parody than a true Predator movie.
I stopped reading halfway through simply because it stopped making sense. Seriously, was Rodriguez high when he wrote that?
I seriously think it sounds worse than AvP:R.
Good Lord... :P
It doesn't surprise me that it ended be so silly and stupid because if you look at the bulk of Robert's work most it is B movie cheese. His most serious film is Sin City but he didn't write those stories for the movie, but they were still over the top in parts. Everything from Desperado to Planet Terror has always been over the top and wild. It worked for those films but with Predator it doesn't.
I just hope they start from scratch.
So when Rodriguez said:
"So I'm not sure if we're going to follow the old script or keep that title."
He means...he wants to follow...that?
The creature descriptions made me laugh alittle lol. I read the Summary mainly because i couldnt bring myself to finish the script itself.
Quotewas Rodriguez high when he wrote that?
Probably Opium...
QuoteI just hope they start from scratch.
Me to bud.
I stopped reading the moment I saw the words "pirates" and "muskets" :-X
Dear god that was a seriously retarded story lol. Robert and his friends must have been high as f--k while putting that story together.
It was pretty hard to keep on reading this garbage, but what really set the line for me to stop was this: Dutch and JC eventually end up fighting another predator hand-to-hand and defeating it.....honestly......WTF was he's smoking? I really need to know, because whatever it is, it must be something serious.
Quote from: Predboy on May 10, 2009, 01:50:44 AM
WTF was he's smoking? I really need to know, because whatever it is, it must be something serious.
It's called chronic weed son.
I pray Robert has been clean over the years and came up with a new improved script for P3.
Quote from: War Wager on May 09, 2009, 04:20:04 PM
I seriously think it sounds worse than AvP:R.
Good Lord... :P
That's because it does. At least AvP:R had a realistic setting. A pirate ship, seriously...
I think you're all over reacting. The script itself is probably not half as bad as the write up. I like the idea of the military trading humans for technology, or just to be left alone.
It had cool ideas but it failed badly.
Quote from: [Alpha]Frost on May 10, 2009, 11:54:33 AM
I think you're all over reacting. The script itself is probably not half as bad as the write up. I like the idea of the military trading humans for technology, or just to be left alone.
No, it really is that bad... :)
It's recently been put in the public domain, although we had it for a while before that.
The depressing thing is that, even in the most recent interview, the guy says that they "don't know" if they're going to use this or a completely new idea. That means that he
still can't tell how horridly attrocious this is and apparently thinks all it needs is a bit of a polish, even in his most sober waking moments.
Now, remember, he's done some decent stuff, like '
The Faculty', but that was written by other people, just like Anderson did '
Event Horizon', but his own written material's not all that great. Even the latter, though, is miles ahead of this.
Above all, remember that other interviews
have confirmed that this treatment is the one which got the project greenlit. Whoever's in charge literally read
this version and thought it would be fantastic to give a full budget for and see on screen.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on May 10, 2009, 05:12:18 PM
Whoever's in charge literally read this version and thought it would be fantastic to give a full budget for and see on screen.
But, that would mean were about to see the worst movie in the history of mankind.....
Is that possible?
Well look on the bright side, if they do go through with this retarded concept, I won't be wasting my time, money and energy on another franchise snuff film. Fox fooled me with AVP-R, it's not gonna happen again. It's going to take more than just a cool looking trailer to get me to see this movie.
Quote from: [Alpha]Frost on May 10, 2009, 11:54:33 AM
I think you're all over reacting. The script itself is probably not half as bad as the write up. I like the idea of the military trading humans for technology, or just to be left alone.
How do you misinterpret "Spanish Galleon with Predators"? How is this not a total suckfest to you?
Exactly -
shit remains shit even with a cherry on the top.
I've said it before and I will say it again, Robert Rodriguez is better off sticking to directing the Spy Kids films... because thats the only thing he's good for.
Hearing that he was going to do Predator years ago, seriously, seriously, has pissed me off. And hearing this resurface once more has only rekindled my hatred and anger for the man and upon hearing the horrors which numerous members here have told via word of internet, has left me seriously on considering leaving the fandom.
And I would hate to do that because I love the Alien-Predator films and fandom.
If Rodriguez actually does this film... it will signify the death of the Predator franchise and the Predator himself will end up being the butt of many jokes.
-Rakai'Thwei
That was a truely terrible script.
I don't even know what else to say.
I like the idea of training on another planet and the elite Predators. Just...the script was written badly. :-X
Silence, beasties! You're overreacting. :P
Yeah, I see this film being alot like Highlander 2: The Quickening and Highlander: The Source-- it happened, but it'll later on end up being not at all canon with the previous stories. I've just read up on the article yet again provided by Hicks, and I see MASSIVE contradictions with the previous films, including the AvP films.
I just don't see a trading faction between both humans and Predators. I don't believe it would happen at all whatsoever because WHY would Predators want to have anything to do with us humans aside hunting us for honor and recognition in their own society?
Not to mention that Wolf Predator was trying to prevent any evidence of Xenomorph or Predator presence in Gunnison, Colorado-- heavily implies that Predators DO NOT want humans getting their hands on technology which rightfully isn't theres to begin with. The same thing could be said about Ghost Predator in Predator 2, when Keyes and Garber was attempting to capture him and take his technology.
And the need for translators? What the fu... No... Yautja/Predators have shown to speak English rather quite well and pick up on it heavily, implying that they are incredibly fast learners.
Rodriguez HASN'T done his homework, and the script goes onto show that he was either really high, bored or out to destroy what is a great franchise.
-Rakai'Thwei
Is this the same Dutch from P1? Why is there interplanetary travel, muskets, and a guy from the 80's all in one script...
Arnold Schwarzenegger is the only person who can play Dutch, thats a fact of life right then and there. Hell, I doubt even Roland Kickenger can play Dutch despite the fact that the man is being the new T-800 for the Terminator Salvation film.
And if Dutch is going to be in this movie, Arnold CAN'T be Dutch... I mean look at him. He's old. He's fat... He's not in his prime anymore. I mean Arnold's got rolls now!
-Rakai'Thwei
Quote from: happypred on May 13, 2009, 01:10:26 AM
Is this the same Dutch from P1? Why is there interplanetary travel, muskets, and a guy from the 80's all in one script...
I think it's assumed anyway. There's no other character by that name in Predator.
The trading tech for humans angle is bullshit. Since when do Predators need to buy us? They could just abduct humans untill they're blue in the face.
Not a big fan of the script. There are a handful of ideas I find interesting, but I don't dig it.
One thing that makes the Pred so cool is how he is portrayed. Mysterious, bad ass hunter. You're not supposed to see him alot, etc. I think stuff like showing the training ground and all of this sh-t just reveals too much and humanizes them too much. I don't want to see Predators in relationships or training or hanging out or anything. This is the same gripe I have with some of the AVP comics ... I don't want to feel like I'm a member aboard a Pred ship. The very appeal of the Predator is that he is a stealthy, scary, bad ass hunter. I just fear that having a movie take place in a Predator setting is just giving too much away and changes the whole dynamic way too far from what attracted fans to the Predator in the first place.
It's hard because, for a movie to be interesting, there should be some revelations and we should view some things we haven't viewed before, but this is too much. Another thing I dislike is the whole humans using cloaking and Predtech ... they did this in some comics and video games too and it always annoyed me. The Pred should be outlandish, using things more advanced than us. It's characteristics are what makes it so cool, if you have humans runnin around using all the Predtech, it becomes too commonplace and takes away the "specialness" of it all.
I don't mind seeing a few scenes in a Pred ship or a few clips revealing some more of the Predator homeworld, but I really think the dynamic needs to be a Pred or several Preds hunting, silently, killing ... in a mysterious way hidden most of the time and systematically doin big time damage. They can have humans be a little more knowledgable and succeed in setting up traps and so on, but the fight should not look anywhere near even and humans should not be running around cloaked.
QuoteI've said it before and I will say it again, Robert Rodriguez is better off sticking to directing the Spy Kids films... because thats the only thing he's good for.
Perhaps watch more RR flicks before you say it again.
I waas just reading the characters in the P3 script! Jack carver..isnt he the dude in xbox game farcry? lol cool! Is it going to be the same dutch out of P1? Is Arnold going to make an appearance in it? I heard rumours he may be? looking forward to hearing more about it..awsome ;D
Well, this is a good way to shoot a movie down the pisser. You either A.) think the director was high on maybe drain-o or B.) He totally wants to say F* it all and piss his entire career away by making such a horrid movie. Horrible movies I can think of is American Haunting, Bogeyman, I'm sure theres a few others but I'm too tired to think of what.
I don't know, I just keep seeing 300 but with predators in my head when i try to put an image to the script. I'd take those kind of effects any day, 300 had allot of eye candy, characters were not too bad either.
I think anyone that thinks this is going to be even remotely like Pred 1 and 2 should probably just bury their head in the sand and pretend it's not happening.
300 predator style you say? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q6jQZ9yTMM&feature=related.
Quote from: Alpha" Primus666 on May 26, 2009, 03:05:06 PM
300 predator style you say? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q6jQZ9yTMM&feature=related.
GET TO THE CHOPPA!!!!
QuoteI don't know, I just keep seeing 300 but with predators in my head when i try to put an image to the script. I'd take those kind of effects any day, 300 had allot of eye candy, characters were not too bad either.
And you call yourself a Predator fan? What about remaking Alien with the spirit of
Commando while were at it, it has a lot of shitz and bangz in it so it cant be that bad! Changing it
completely in style and tone with CG all over the place, that's every fan's dream right? No substance just shit blowing up with digital awesomeness everywhere. We got that twice, its called AvP, awesome weren't they?
For weeks you're coming up with the most horrendous ideas, you call yourself a fan, yet you
want it to be
totally different then Predator and Predator 2. "Hey those movies are awesome but if Predators is anything like the movies i love I'm not going to see this!"
What the f**k is it about that attitude?
QuoteI think anyone that thinks this is going to be even remotely like Pred 1 and 2 should probably just bury their head in the sand and pretend it's not happening.
And anyone who wishes for a
300 with Predators in it should probably go to the doctor to determine their heads.
QuoteNo substance just shit blowing up with digital awesomeness everywhere.
You speak as if the two are mutually exclusive.
Quote from: SM on May 27, 2009, 04:47:32 AM
QuoteNo substance just shit blowing up with digital awesomeness everywhere.
You speak as if the two are mutually exclusive.
He's saying that's what the AvP movies are. And he's right. Well, at least AvP. AvP:R couldn't even afford f*cking lights, let alone "digital awesomeness" so it took the CGI slasher-route.
I can't think of any "awesomeness" in AvP; digital or otherwise. However, just because something uses a lot of digital technology doesn't automatically mean it lacks substance.
Rodriguez could shoot this all in front of green screens and still end up with a good film - but only if the script is there to begin with.
Essentially, my point is you can have substance with CGI.
Of course you can have substance with CG, but it still is the wrong approach for this kind of movie.
I love Sin City, great movie with tons of digital stuff in it, but that doesn't mean it automatically applies to this franchise, same with 300.
Also i love movies with a sort of black humor to it, didn't work so well for the alien franchise did it?
Same here.
It all boils down to the look. If they can make the CG look real enough - then there's no problem. I can't imagine they'd go for a hyperstylised look a la Sin City or 300. Personally I thought the CG and miniatures work for the King Kong 'sets' was brilliant. If they got a similar look for a Predator flick it could work.
But then if they didn't get it right it'd be complete shite.
Quote from: SM on May 27, 2009, 05:03:25 AM
I can't think of any "awesomeness" in AvP; digital or otherwise.
Ummz, did you miss the part where the Scar Predator flew through the air, spinning, and stabbed the Queen in the head?
Awesome, right?
-_-
the best scene had to be scar predator and girl running from the explosion together with scar's dreads flailing in the wind
when this film be done?
Quote from: magical_boy on May 27, 2009, 11:44:51 AM
the best scene had to be scar predator and girl running from the explosion together with scar's dreads flailing in the wind
most gay scene in history of both franchise...
Quote from: Zodchiy Teney on May 27, 2009, 12:31:58 PM
when this film be done?
Hasn´t even started shooting....please hold the line.....
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on May 27, 2009, 04:27:17 AM
QuoteI don't know, I just keep seeing 300 but with predators in my head when i try to put an image to the script. I'd take those kind of effects any day, 300 had allot of eye candy, characters were not too bad either.
And you call yourself a Predator fan? What about remaking Alien with the spirit of Commando while were at it, it has a lot of shitz and bangz in it so it cant be that bad! Changing it completely in style and tone with CG all over the place, that's every fan's dream right? No substance just shit blowing up with digital awesomeness everywhere. We got that twice, its called AvP, awesome weren't they?
For weeks you're coming up with the most horrendous ideas, you call yourself a fan, yet you want it to be totally different then Predator and Predator 2. "Hey those movies are awesome but if Predators is anything like the movies i love I'm not going to see this!"
What the f**k is it about that attitude?
QuoteI think anyone that thinks this is going to be even remotely like Pred 1 and 2 should probably just bury their head in the sand and pretend it's not happening.
And anyone who wishes for a 300 with Predators in it should probably go to the doctor to determine their heads.
I find it funny how you continue to launch your one man tirade (mostly against me) against anything even remotly different from the holy grail that is predator, I picture you watching blood sport with your van dam t-shirt on whilst listening to "girls just want to have fun" by cyndi lauper....although you sound too young and probably have no idea what i'm talking about.
Johnny mate, I am the biggest pred fan, I have all the comics collected over many years (not just avp, predator also) the movies on all formats, a full scale predator helmet from predator 2 (not cheap!) along with general tid bits including the creature (books, toys etc etc).
The difference between me and you is....Your hanging on to that invisable thread of hope that this will be , a predator stalking a skilled human, on an earth like scenario, much like the previous movies but a bit fresher.
where as i have accepted (through the evidence we've been given), that this movie is going to be something far far away from what we know, and i am trying to discuss and find the best angles/outcome for what is probably going to be the biggest raping pile of shit movie in the history of sequels.
So please dont get me confused with some spotty 17 year old that wants too see gerard butler take on a Rhino predator... ::)
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;D
hahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahah
thats gold ;)
Thats gold for sure :D
Whoever hopes for a Predator flick in the vein of something like 300 or Sin City is definitely a few quarters short of a dollar. That's so not the Predator series. How about just a macho action flick, that's testerone-driven, but something that's also suspenseful.
And yeah, no black humor.
"Stick around".
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on May 27, 2009, 11:40:19 PM
Whoever hopes for a Predator flick in the vein of something like 300 or Sin City is definitely a few quarters short of a dollar. That's so not the Predator series. How about just a macho action flick, that's testerone-driven, but something that's also suspenseful.
And yeah, no black humor.
No ones hoping anything of the sort on any thread on here hicks, I'm pointing out that if done right, it might up the grade of shit, from steaming pile to small turd...
If I thought a "macho action flick" was on the cards I'd be backing it. If anything just use your own experience , how many times have we been on here begging for a solid/true to the original movie only to be handed our worst nightmare? But continue to hold out if you like...until that first snap comes out.
;D
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on May 27, 2009, 11:40:19 PM
Whoever hopes for a Predator flick in the vein of something like 300 or Sin City is definitely a few quarters short of a dollar. That's so not the Predator series. How about just a macho action flick, that's testerone-driven, but something that's also suspenseful.
And yeah, no black humor.
I think he is talking about the style in which 300 was done, and besides idk why everyone is trying to blow him up when he just made a simple reference.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 09, 2009, 09:37:37 AM
We've just uploaded an article on the Predators script that Rodriguez wrote over a decade ago:
"For years we all knew of the infamous Rodriguez script. The epic tale set aboard a Spanish Galleon with an estimated budget of $150 million! It was every Predator fan's dream, surely. It was written by Robert Rodriguez in 1996 as a writing assignment for some fun. It's been largely hidden from the public but is available on the internet. This article will take a look at this infamous script and whether it's actually entertaining. Well, here goes..."
The article covers a story summary, the main characters, how the script develops the predators and my own personal opinion on it. Just a reminder that this isn't the script for the current Predators but the original script Rodriguez in the early 90s. Check the article out.
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/website/articles/robert-rodriguez-predators-script/
Total and utter shyte.
Pirate Dutch? Space traveling humans wearing Pred armor?.... Oh boy. Glad this isn't being used.
So...there's a Human/Predator trading scheme? Okay, and the different types of Preds? Uhh this sounds like Aliens now with the runners, drones, praetorians etc. And Robbie wrote this for fun aye, well damn he must've bored shitless because this does read like a fan fiction. In the 15 yrs since this crap was written the Pred mythos and lore is already well established in the literature i.e. comics and novels so to just ignore that would be blasphemous now. I bet any money that if Brian reads this he'll have an instant hard on coz the mentioning of Dutch...
That script can not be serious. This dude called Rodr
Great article, Hicks. There's a lot of stupid stuff in that script.
Man this sounds like Brians wet dream ::)
Yep, when Brian finally reads that he'll be stroking himself alright.
This script sucks so badly.
Predators = Planet Hulk and World War Hulk. Think going to read the new predator comics , see this movie.
Predators on a BBQ? you have got to be kiding.
I know. I know...
Oh my God, that script sounds like utter shit. If Rodreguiz has any in input in the new movie we're actually done for.
Wow, didn't realise the script was that silly. Lets hope not a lot gets re-used.
my god please dont use this script, i think predators and humans should not be pushed together like this. theres so many directions this movie can go. if this script is used or similar it game over.
Robert Rodriguez should stick to doing Spy Kids films... because thats all he is good for. He shouldn't be allowed to do a Predator movie. The more I hear about Rodriguez, the more I feel the movie is going to suck.
My lord I hope this is joke.... Shrek old friend how have you been?
I hope they arent getting that nobody they've hired to do a rewrite using this story as a template....? There needs to be a human story at the heart of a film like this, and it is how the human story is affected by the intervention of the Predator, that makes the story both credible and interesting. Predator 1 is a prime example of this.... The military are on a rescue mission and they encounter something they arent trained to deal with.... Its what comes out of that premise that makes the story and the action work.... Its simple.
Rodriquez needs to be have a court order on any predator related script, and yes, i am random.
yea, ive just read it again, i think im just going to make a fan scrpit, a good one, for the hell of it.
I hope this script gets used.
Just to clarify something: Rodriguez is what for this film? Producer? Writer? Because it seems every time I come to this site or read any news about the Predators movie his role in it always changes. Maybe I misread something....
After Anderson and Strause ... Rodriguez?
agree with Hicks_0998
That script outline is the worst thing I've ever read.
this sciprt was shooting out there man damn lol i like the part were he cuts down the dishonored pred should have made it were he kind does not trust the pred at 1st becouse of his past with them. but this kind discredits preds as push overs lol sounds like a Gi joe sciprt
I stopped reading once I got too, "Dutch and whats-her-name engaged a predator in hand-to-hand combat...and won." .....your f**king joking right?
I stopped reading once I got too, "Dutch and whats-her-name engaged a predator in hand-to-hand combat...and won." .....your f**king joking right?
Heh, woops, forgot about the whole, 'refreshing' problem here. My bad.
You know, I think with the exceptions of the names, plot, bases, etc. the idea of training young preds and bringing other species into it could be cool. You know, it's only as bad as you make it. Still...teethgnashers? WTF? You're joking...right. :-X
predators f**k up everyone make it a complete blood fest guns blood action,gore mutlation,hard r rating, i love predator its my fav film. so fox stroke troublemaker better make it right my boys, old painess is waiting.
If you guys like it, then I do too.
yeah predators just f**k up everyone dont they invisible and thats the appeal to us young uns coz we have no sense of quality or grammar or use of full stops and commas coz we just keep going on and on and on and on. AvP2 was filled with guns, blood, gore, and mutilation but did it have what Predator had? Shit no! And that was quality, not quantity.
yep i was abit drunk, but i didnt mind avp2. Predator is a classic and i dont think they can make the film as good as that hicks. I just hope its an r rating and they make the film correctly. Its intresting whos going to be the lead character. Keep up the good work with the site. ;D
I call B.S. This has to be a joke. Did you just go to Deviantart and copy and paste some 14 year old kid's fanfic? Either that or Robert wrote this while smoking some low quality hash. To quote Apu, "Oh, you have got to be kidding sir. First you think of an idea that has already been done. Then you give it a title that nobody could possibly like. Didn't you think this through... ... one of the most popular movies of all time, sir! What were you thinking?"
I agree theres a lot of pretty bad ideas - but theres 3 very strong ones. A predator Gladiator arena. The predator renegade. The predator enslaving other aliens.
Noooo,Rodriguez tu esta haciendo mierda con esso script!!!!!!! Noooo,Rodriguez you are doing shit with this script!!!!!!!!
No, Newbeing. This IS the screnplay the guy wrote. It's the genuine artifce. We had a copy, a while back, but it's since been linked by others in the public domain.
What a f-ing disaster, what a pathetic excuse of a script. I hope their not using this trash
ow suddenly their hope for my script if a guy like rodriguez wrote something llike that
well i will say they should sell the franchise to a independant film writer or to the man who did underworld.they would do a better job. >:D
How about we just get Shane Salerno to be the writer here? We know Fox doesn't give a rats ass about us fans
Please dont use this script. Keep it real and original. Multiple Predators losing, no less in hand to hand combat with humans. Not happening!!!! Go and watch one and 2 1000 times over and over. Keep it as original to those as you can. One or in this case TWO bad-ass Predators terrorizing, stalking, humans etc....And please dont expose the Predators right away in the movie. The reason 1 and even 2 were good was becuase the Predator was kept hidden until half way through the film. This script makes a mockery of that lore and mystery of the Predator. Dont do this!!!!!
It should be a sequel. The first movie was the first encounter. The second one was about humans trying to capture a predator to study the species, its inteligence and technology. The third movie could be about humans actually capturing a Predator and getting the hands on Pred technology...(in my opinion action taking place in space would be preferencial. There´s no way to replicate Predator technology in today´s time) The Predator Species would have to take serious actions to ensure their survival. This could envolve more than one Predator... Does anyone agree??
I couldn't even make it to the end of the script... sweet zombie Jesus...I wouldn't even make my worst enemy read that. I can now say I am truly terrified of what this movie will be like, and not in a good way. :'(
Someone should petition against Rodriguez into making this movie..
SOMEBODY TELL ME THIS IS A BAD DREAM!!!!
WTF dude?! Is this guy crazy or was he just board to tears when he wrote this??!! ::) ???
Zill: I think he was both crazy and bored. It read like he was puffing some wonderful stuff alright.
I think the Alien/Predator franchises were destined for failure after the early 90's. Look at this trend. They don't make 'em like they used to!
the story is very good, old but very good. but it can't be like 50 Preds in one whole film. what are the aliens anyways? i hope that Rodriguez won't need this script at all.
Is this shit the best they can come up with! Sounds like to me. Robbie is like those last 2 moron brothers that made AVPR, he doesn't get it either. Lets hope the new scripts are better or Fox will bury the predater franchise like they did with AVP.
Damn i just read this piece of shit of a script by Robert Rodriguez i am glad that they're not making this movie it sounds really stupid. it sounds like something that both Paul Anderson and the Strause brothers did which ruined the franchises. Why cant fox find a decent writer and director and a awesome cast to do these movies. all fox cares about is the money and not the fans. enough of this rebooting bullshit i want to see sequels to the Predator movies, Alien movies, and BETTER AVP movies!