https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/alien-movie-fede-alvarez-20th-century-studios-1235037155/
The director of Don't Breathe & Evil Dead (2013) is directing a standalone Alien film for Hulu! Ridley Scott is on board as a producer.
YESSSSSSSSS! I love Fede. Evil Dead and Don't Breathe are brilliant. Not so big on The Girl Who Blah Blah, but it's a well crafted film and Lakeith Steinfeld is great in it.
Evil Dead remake is fun for what it is. Don't Breathe was atrocious.
Don't like the sound of this at all. Ridley Scott is RIGHT there with an unfinished story yet to tell, but even barring him directing, there has to be a more intetesting filmmaker to get to tackle a new Alien movie... :-\
Not thrilled with how Disney is handling this acquisition in the slightest. And bye bye theatrical releases, everything is just streaming content now. Gotta churn it all out!
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 04, 2022, 10:16:09 PM
Evil Dead remake is fun for what it is. Don't Breathe was atrocious.
Don't like the sound of this. Ridley Scott is RIGHT there... :-\
Not thrilled with how Disney is handling this acquisition in the slightest. And bye bye theatrical releases, everything is just streaming content now.
Wow ! I am of the opposite opinion on those movies. I really think he knows how to craft some tense set pieces. His Girl With The Dragon movie was pretty bland and the new TCM movie he produced was god awful but he pitched this movie so it's gotta mean a lot to him. That doesn't guarantee a a good movie but he's passionate about it.
It's a shame we won't see this in a theater but at least on streaming they can take some more risks. I hope they put the money behind it and let him make the movie he wants.
I'm hopeful for the best here, of course. I don't want any of this to fail, I'd love to get a great movie out of it.
But also, Disney monopolizing the industry and then squashing Fox into a factory that churns out "content" for Hulu has been a really bad string of events for film on the whole!
According to sources, Alvarez is a rabid fan of the franchise and casually pitched a take to Scott many years ago. The idea remained implanted in Scott's brain until late last year when he called Alvarez out of the blue and asked him if the younger filmmaker was still up for it. Alvarez didn't have to be asked twice.
I guess this comment is kind of reassuring? Hopefully?
Yeah I'm not happy about this myself. I have only seen Evil Dead and I liked it but there isn't anything there that makes me think he would make a good Alien film. That's not that big of a deal for me, he could surprise me and he is competent for sure.
The real issue is that Alien and Predator are now direct to video franchises, they belong in a theater.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Mar 04, 2022, 10:42:32 PM
The real issue is that Alien and Predator are now direct to video franchises, they belong in a theater.
And not just Alien and Predator, but also, most of
Fox 20th Century Studios' slate of films from now 'til the end of time!
:-\
Honestly, it would take a lot for me not to be pumped about any new Alien related media. This is no exception!
Quote"Alvarez's take is being kept deep inside the studio's chest, but sources describe it as unconnected to the previous movies."
Yesssssssss!!!
I was just saying this in the forum a few months ago!! Give me a film outside the current canon. Give me a Joker like Alien film, outside of the DCEU! Bring it back to its horror B-Movie Roots! Be about the Alien, not Synthetics or Engineers! Lower budget like a Tongal film!
WOOT! WOOT!
I don't think "unconnected" here means "outside of canon." Just... not directly a sequel/followup to anything we have right now. No continuing adventures of Ripley or David or Hermit.
Could be wrong, of course, but that's just how I read it. I have no real personal stake in the continuity thing – "canon" or not, a good movie is a good movie and a bad one is a bad one, so that's all really neither here nor there to me.
Exciting... just a bummer that it doesn't bode well for prequel resolution, and makes me worry we'll never see another Alien film in theaters again.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 04, 2022, 11:34:03 PM
I don't think "unconnected" here means "outside of canon." Just... not directly a sequel/followup to anything we have right now. No continuing adventures of Ripley or David or Hermit.
Could be wrong, of course, but that's just how I read it. I have no real personal stake in the continuity thing – "canon" or not, a good movie is a good movie and a bad one is a bad one, so that's all really neither here nor there to me.
True, it could mean either way, and we just lean towards our own personal preference. Guess we'll see.
But unconnected in general? Still...
Ohhh yes!!!
Wow, talk about coming out of nowhere! :o I figured Disney would wait to gauge the interest/success of the TV show before they gave any thought to moving ahead with another movie!
I've not seen his Evil Dead remake or Don't Breathe, but I've heard good things. No doubt this'll be another "stripped down, back to basics" kinda deal like we're apparently getting with Prey.
And this announcement certainly makes it seem as though, like it or loathe it, the future of both Alien and Predator franchises in live-action lies with streaming. I feel like Disney is going to try and turn them into "adult-centric premium franchises" for Disney+ from now on, same as they're treating Star Wars for the broader audience. It's not going to preclude the possibility of ever seeing them on the big screen again, but it's certainly looking like they're going to be turning them into a big draw for their streaming service rather than having any sort of eye on theatrical releases going forward.
In all honesty, I just can't muster any level of excitement for a new Alien movie at this point and it's such a shame because I have long considered 1979's Alien to be one of my favourite films of all time but with each new iteration/sequel/prequel/reboot, it becomes that little bit less special and with every passing year, my appreciation for even the original masterpiece lessens that little bit more, due to oversaturation and overfamiliarity.
Things will surely only get worse from here on out, now that Disney is in charge of the property. One need only look at how thoroughly they've milked - and continue to milk - the teet of Star Wars (5 movies and countless TV spin-offs in the span of the last 7 years) in order to see what they're gonna do to Alien.
Quote from: St_Eddie on Mar 04, 2022, 11:47:55 PM
Things will surely only get worse from here on out, now that Disney is in charge of the property. One need only look at how thoroughly they've milked - and continue to milk - the teet of Star Wars (5 movies and countless TV spin-offs in the span of the last 7 years) in order to see what they're gonna do to Alien.
Actually, I would hope with how they handled the last few SW movies they'll have a better handling in this franchise.
The fact that Alvarez's pitch, whatever it may be, is a germ that sort of sat in Ridley's brain and gestated in a way that Ridley remembered it and decided to give Fede a ring to get this off the ground is probably the most interesting component of this whole announcement.
I wish I could get over my many, many hangups right now. Fede himself as a filmmaker, Disney's uprooting of Fox as its own studio, an Alien film going direct to streaming, etc. Being pretty bummed about the news of a new Alien film coming certainly isn't fun. But maybe my very low expectations might work in the film's favor here.
I do wish they would slow down a bit though. A new series and a new film is... a lot to process at the same time. I don't want to see Alien go the Star Wars/Marvel route of having a bunch of releases churned out each year. Let each film (or show) be important in and of itself.
The last time Ridley was enthralled enough by a sci-fi pitch to get involved and get it off the ground, though, it was Aaron Guzikowski's Raised By Wolves, and that's something I absolutely adore right now. So maybe that should give me some additional hope here?
I don't know. I just feel so incredibly hollow about so much of this. We'll see what happens.
Pretty much exactly how I feel.
I have no faith in the filmmaker himself.
But the Ridley Scott thing's got my attention.
All these new projects sound like the cinematic equivalent of shovelware.
Spoiler
But at least it's not a sequel to Covenant.
Sigh. So we're getting this instead of a proper continuation of the prequel storyline. Yeah I'm out.
Would you be alright with the idea of Ridley Scott making an indirect sequel?
One where it's a completely new story that follows the themes he's interested in, but say it's actually set after Resurrection, and David's not directly in the film but the wreckage of the Covenant appears halfway through or something?
It'd be better than nothing, but I'd prefer to see David again.
Yes, Ridley Scott alone is the only interesting thing so far. :P
That's cause Ridley Scott is the only interesting thing.
Straight to hulu gives me straight to dvd vibes but dont vreath was pretty decent so this might be good just depends on the budget
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 05, 2022, 12:42:37 AM
Spoiler
But at least it's not a sequel to Covenant.
And at least will have something in the works when Noah Hawley walks away from the TV series and the whole project gets canned.
I kid, I kid... (hopefully :-\)
Haven't we been here before? 2 alien projects that are unrelated in production at the same time? If i was Noah Hawley i would tell them to can the movie or I'm walking.....and i don't blame him.
There's a reason this type of thing doesn't happen elsewhere. Except for the Batman meanwhile there's upcoming DC movies that take place elsewhere. Now ask yourself if your impressed with how the current DCEU is going?
This is not a great idea.
Now that we're officially in 'multiple projects happening concurrently' territory, I really hope that they don't just start sharing assets between productions. I don't want to see the exact same Weta Alien designed for Hawley's show just reused here to cut costs (I've noticed a lot of similar sharing of materials between the various Star Wars films and shows recently). Let each team be able to design and build up their own interpretation of this world and its creatures from scratch, please.
Quote from: Richman678 on Mar 05, 2022, 01:39:40 AM
Haven't we been here before? 2 alien projects that are unrelated in production at the same time? If i was Noah Hawley i would tell them to can the movie or I'm walking.....and i don't blame him.
There's a reason this type of thing doesn't happen elsewhere. Except for the Batman meanwhile there's upcoming DC movies that take place elsewhere. Now ask yourself if your impressed with how the current DCEU is going?
This is not a great idea.
Not many who cares about Batman or the new movie, its: oh another batman movie okay.... Its so far far away from quality and fame we can get from the 1989 Batrman and batman returns which is highly hold up even to this day.
But then we are talking about disney and they are FAMOUS for milking their franchises dry until the franchise is dead.
Actually, I would hope with how they handled the last few SW movies they'll have a better handling in this franchise.LAst I checked the last movie: rise of skywalker is seen as the worst movie the fans has seen, even worse than last jedi according to many, and its a mix up of random ideas and fan service that was just a big mess. Wouldnt say it was a better movie. Disneys star wars movies started good but gone downhill fast.
OK a new alien movie:
Good things:
1: It is its own thing and not a follow up to ripley or the prequels, hopefuylly its something with new charachters and own story but folows the alien quadtrilogies lore and parameters or the rpg which is excellent at this, and avoid the shit show marvels comics are.
2: Decent director.
3: Scott liking it and remember his movie idea, unlike blomkamp it seem to have some promise.
Bad things:
1: Hulu only wtf?! Cinema release and physical release, if its stream only I will so pirate it, I rather own the movie for the future than to relay ona didigtal service.
2: Director is alright but his movies are pretty standard, evil dead remake was fun and decent but depended on gore only horror and wasnt much content besides that. His other movies have been original and decent. So we will get a decent movie but probably not a masterpiece like alien-alien3.
3: Its disney and they seem to release ton of stuff without making time to make sure its good, we seen how they treat star wars and their other franchises....
4: No sequel to scotts new trilogy? WTF: I want an ending to the covenant ending.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 05, 2022, 02:41:21 AM
Now that we're officially in 'multiple projects happening concurrently' territory, I really hope that they don't just start sharing assets between productions. I don't want to see the exact same Weta Alien designed for Hawley's show just reused here to cut costs (I've noticed a lot of similar sharing of materials between the various Star Wars films and shows recently). Let each team be able to design and build up their own interpretation of this world and its creatures from scratch, please.
Well, arguably all the
Alien movies, including those with the same director ( ;) ;D) are exactly that. I am somewhat confident that this is going to be similar. :laugh:
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Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 05, 2022, 02:41:21 AM
Now that we're officially in 'multiple projects happening concurrently' territory, I really hope that they don't just start sharing assets between productions. I don't want to see the exact same Weta Alien designed for Hawley's show just reused here to cut costs (I've noticed a lot of similar sharing of materials between the various Star Wars films and shows recently). Let each team be able to design and build up their own interpretation of this world and its creatures from scratch, please.
Well, arguably all the Alien movies, including those with the same director ( ;) ;D) are exactly that. I am somewhat confident that this is going to be similar. :laugh:
What I mean is something more akin to AVP just straight up reusing
Resurrection's Alien suits. Be they suits, or digital assets, I don't want to see the Aliens designed for Hawley just handed off to Fede afterwards for his film.
The Alien obviously has a specific and iconic form/identity... but there should be a certain degree of wiggle room within each installment for each filmmaker and their creative team to reinterpret the creatures to some degree, rather than just be handed something designed by a different team for a different project. I've been noticing a lot of props, ships, aliens, etc. being shared between various recent Star Wars projects, for example, and it just kind of takes me out of it. I wouldn't want to see the
Alien Alien in
Aliens, and vice versa, and it would be nice if each new installment is able to leave its own individual mark as well.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 05, 2022, 02:59:36 AM
What I mean is something more akin to AVP just straight up reusing Resurrection's Alien suits. Be they suits, or digital assets, I don't want to see the Aliens designed for Hawley just handed off to Fede afterwards for his film.
Neither do I. Fair enough my friend, fair enough. :)
Ehhh, direct to Hulu+Ridley involved doesn't give me high hopes.......
This is good news.
Nay. Great News!
-Windebieste.
I like that it's not more Ripley.
I have no strong feelings about the director either way because I've not seen any of his stuff.
I'm vexed it isn't a resolution to the David arc though.
im excited ive been wanting to see an alien movie not connected to the originals or prequels that has new cast, characters and settings. im glad it isnt shoe horning ripley in too, i feel like too much is connected to her.
i just want to see the aliens and humans
One of the wonders of the original 1979 movie is that it works perfectly as a standalone flick. Hopefully this too as well.
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Quote from: Richman678 on Mar 05, 2022, 01:39:40 AM
This is not a great idea.
Actually, I would hope with how they handled the last few SW movies they'll have a better handling in this franchise.[/b]
LAst I checked the last movie: rise of skywalker is seen as the worst movie the fans has seen, even worse than last jedi according to many, and its a mix up of random ideas and fan service that was just a big mess. Wouldnt say it was a better movie. Disneys star wars movies started good but gone downhill fast.
What I meant was with how badly they handled the last few. So hopefully, they took all that bad experience to learn from it and apply it to further franchises.
Quote from: Gentleman Death on Mar 05, 2022, 04:16:11 AM
What I meant was with how badly they handled the last few. So hopefully, they took all that bad experience to learn from it and apply it to further franchises.
I doubt that Disney have learned a thing and why should they? They continue to rake in billions by producing milquetoast mulch for the undemanding masses. Do you think Disney cares one iota as to whether or not you liked the Star Wars sequel trilogy? All they care about is whether you paid to watch it or not (and enough people did for Disney to make a healthy profit off the back of it).
Mark my words, Disney will screw up Alien and beat the xenomorphic dead horse until it's nowt but a mound of acidic, pulverised flesh. Why anyone would ever expect The Mouse to do anything other than act as the factory conveyor belt which produces safe, corporate, focus tested, tasteless sausages masquerading as art, is beyond me.
There's a reason why I refuse to give a single penny to Disney; I vote with my wallet and refuse to condone gutless creative bankruptcy, much less encourage the further stranglehold that a mega conglomerate has upon the film industry. Sadly most people just bitch about the state of Disney's output, or their near monopoly status, whilst simultaneously paying for the movie tickets and subscribing to Disney+ and yet they wonder why Disney's output doesn't improve any...
On one hand it's a bummer that new Alien movies will go straight to streaming with small(ish) budgets.
On the other hand, if this is turned into a playground for filmmakers who love the series to experiment, it could be good.
Alvarez can create some great tension, so I'm excited for a well executed scary film, but otherwise I really just don't seem to care any more :-[ Direct to streaming Alien movies just feels like such an end of an era.
IF it dont get released on physical media but stream only: Im not even gonna watch it.
Im the type who want to own the movies I pay for, not for a time limited license.
I will own it one way or another.
Oh well this is interesting surprise, not sure if the film is set to be a Remake or a soft reboot, hope it maintains some continuity, I just hope its competent at least, the consensus of main stream audience, critics n fans is there hasn't been an objectively great Alien film since Aliens, hope that changes.
Whatever. If they put it out on blu-ray I might pick it up. I'll always have three orthodox Alien films. Maybe I'll watch Alien3 tonight...
Alien 3 is a perfect movie to watch for right now
Well, I'm not paying for streaming only movies. Never did, never will.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Mar 05, 2022, 03:53:45 AM
I'm vexed it isn't a resolution to the David arc though.
Yeah. I always figured we'd eventually end up with an era of relatively contained installments from new voices tackling
Alien (like Hawley and Alvarez are now – though I never imagined that that entire future would be entirely relegated to Hulu), and that's something I was very much looking forward to (the whole appeal of
Alien as an ongoing franchise to me is the differening voices and interpretations of the material), but I also really, honestly thought that Ridley would be given one more film to close out his prequel narrative, even after the Disney/Fox acquisition, before we pivoted in this particular direction. Maybe that was just me being naively optimistic about the powers at play here.
Quote from: SiL on Mar 05, 2022, 08:50:33 AMI really just don't seem to care any more :-[ Direct to streaming Alien movies just feels like such an end of an era.
I think that about sums it up well. The era of
Alien as a sort of prestige franchise with semi-regular major installments that hit the big screen once or twice a decade is very much behind us now, in favor of the more rapid-fire, multi-release onslaught that is contemporary
Star Wars/Marvel/DC... and like
Star Wars, it seems that
Alien is now mostly being relegated to streaming.
I hope
Alien doesn't crash under this weight, and that these projects are interesting but... I'm mostly just tired I think. I want this film, and the Hawley series, to be great, but I can see myself getting very overwhelmed very very quickly by this sudden pivot into what the franchise is going to be moving forward. Having two separate
Alien projects in the works at the same time now is a lot – perhaps too much – to chew on.
I'm going to try to be optimistic about both projects. I don't want them to fail, I want to love them. But it's a whole different ballgame now, and not one I'm entirely sure
Alien is fit to be playing.
I'll give it a chance, just like the TV series and Prey. Hope for the best but I can't say I'm excited yet.
If I see a trailer for one of these new projects and it looks good then I'll get excited.
Great news! So hyped! Hulu is spoiling us and I'm all for it!
"Can you show me on this Mickey Mouse doll, where Disney touched you?"
Quote from: 426Buddy on Mar 05, 2022, 01:45:05 PM
Prey
Ironically I'm more excited for Prey than either Alien project, and I know I'm not the only primarily-Alien-fan around here who feels that way.
Quote from: MudButt on Mar 04, 2022, 10:06:48 PM
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/alien-movie-fede-alvarez-20th-century-studios-1235037155/
The director of Don't Breathe & Evil Dead (2013) is directing a standalone Alien film for Hulu! Ridley Scott is on board as a producer.
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Quote from: 426Buddy on Mar 05, 2022, 01:45:05 PM
Prey
Ironically I'm more excited for Prey than either Alien project, and I know I'm not the only primarily-Alien-fan around here who feels that way.
You can use my name. :D
I'm not sold yet on any of it yet but Prey so far is the most interesting project for me.
I don't know any of Hawleys work though so hard form any opinions the TV series yet.
When Disney first started expaning, it was Star Wars expendable. The next time they worked on the Predator franchise; it was expendable too. What makes you think they're gonna care about a franchise about aliens terrorizing people in space? They think the movie going audience is crud and they don't give a **** about one friend of yours who paid to see one of their lousy movies.
Fox since 2023 is a streaming plataform. ALL movies in streaming less 2 or 3. ONLY bif movies with box office big in cinemas. Alien bomb in Covenant.
Next movies for Scott, Mangold in Fox only Hulo. Disney kill Fox.
As long as Ridley isn't attached to this, I'm in.
Did you not read the article? Ridley is all over this surprisingly.
As stated in Bloodydusgustings article
https://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3705942/alien-franchise-resurrected-by-evil-dead-director-fede-alvarez/
"The project is described as "an original standalone feature", which is a breath of fresh air after several big swings by Scott himself."
What is a breath of fresh air? Hate to say this but it sounds like its going to be a lack luster teen scream attempt at rebooting the franchise and if there is no Giger origins, its probably going to suck. Evil Dead being great or not...if it resembles that effort, then all it will be is a tightly cut , noir film with fire in the background. Nothing about it will scream lore at all.
"Got you into the theatre didn't we?"
"Got you talking about it in the forums didn't we?"
job done.
Sometimes you can just make something that works well and that's an accomplishment in of itself.
I'm all for it. But any news on Prometheus/Covenant sequel?
Zip.
So,Ridge Top,does this mean no closure on the Covenant Cliffhanger?And it was a legit cliffhanger??:)
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Holding onto a sliver of hope.
I will remain indifferent/optimistic (if that makes any sense) about this.
I actually quite liked Don't Breathe, to be honest. It was a bit of a throw away horror movie, but it was a good film at the time I saw it. I haven't seen anything else of his that I recall, though.
I see RidgeTop is handling thumbnails now ;)
I didn't watch it yet. Were there F bombs?
Quote from: Kradan on Mar 06, 2022, 07:11:37 AM
I see RidgeTop is handling thumbnails now ;)
RidgeTop's always been handling the thumbnails :P.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 06, 2022, 10:49:10 AM
I didn't watch it yet. Were there F bombs?
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Quote from: RidgeTop on Mar 06, 2022, 11:10:46 AM
Quote from: Kradan on Mar 06, 2022, 07:11:37 AM
I see RidgeTop is handling thumbnails now ;)
RidgeTop's always been handling the thumbnails :P.
Huh, I thought Corporal dealt with that pain in the ass himself
Quote from: Kradan on Mar 06, 2022, 11:43:19 AM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Mar 06, 2022, 11:10:46 AM
Quote from: Kradan on Mar 06, 2022, 07:11:37 AM
I see RidgeTop is handling thumbnails now ;)
RidgeTop's always been handling the thumbnails :P.
Huh, I thought Corporal dealt with that pain in the ass himself
That new movie better come with a new toy, or that thumbnail will leave me severely disappointed! ;D
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Mar 05, 2022, 07:15:47 PM
As long as Ridley isn't attached to this, I'm in.
I really never understood this position personally to be honest. From a general public's perception, he's made one out of three good Alien films. He's a father of the classic 1979 Alien, indeed, but he's one of many fathers. And I wouldn't want anyone who's deeply in a position of 'the beast is cooked' to helm a new Alien film...
I'm gutted that Hicks doesn't like the Evil Dead series or Sam Raimi 😆
I'm all for the franchise moving beyond Ridley. The whole appeal of Alien as an ongoing franchise is that each new filmmaker that tackles the material approaches it in a new way and puts a new spin on it.
But I also think that not letting Ridley wrap up his story with one last installment in his prequel narrative before moving on to new iterations of the series is a colossal missed opportunity.
I want to see what new people do with Alien moving forward. James Cameron, David Fincher, and Jean-Pierre Jeunet all brought things to the table that I adore, and helped shape Alien as a sort of "auteur's" blockbuster series where the filmmaker's voice really does allow each installment to differ from the rest (even if Fox sometimes tried to squash that voice). The franchise on the whole isn't Ridley's. But the prequel story is, and the prequel story remains unfinished.
Smaller, more personal stories. We've seen some great ones in the old Dark Horse EU.
And whilst we'd all love the big budget theatrical spectacle I'm intrigued where this goes.
No black goo. No engineers. No Androids. No flutes or fingering. Just give us a classic haunted house and unstoppable monster movie again.
I don't think it gets more classic haunted house than Dr. Moreau's Dr. Frankenstein's David's Gothic mansion. ;)
Unexpected news but at least they're doing something with the franchise at last.
I actually really liked Don't Breathe. Stephen Lang was really good as the blind guy. It does get really weird towards the end though when you find out what his intentions are.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Mar 06, 2022, 12:20:42 PM
I'm gutted that Hicks doesn't like the Evil Dead series or Sam Raimi 😆
He's known to have the opposite of good taste regarding the Spider-Man franchise so that's unsurprising.
Hicks hates the Evil Dead films?! Is that even legal?
Quote from: Kailem on Mar 06, 2022, 02:43:52 PM
Hicks hates the Evil Dead films?! Is that even legal?
Damn that free country of his!
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To Alvarez's credit, while he's no Raimi, I do think he had a good handle on
Evil Dead for the most part, what with the dark, over-the-top gore meets
Three Stooges antics of it all. At one point in his remake a character cuts her own cheek off, and then her brother slips on the severed off piece of her cheek and smacks his head against a toilet. If that it's
Evil Dead then I don't know what is.
I still outright hateeeeeeee
Don't Breathe, though. And I don't think Alvarez's effective handling of
Evil Dead really bodes one way or the other for his
Alien project.
I guess maybe, using his previous works as a point of reference here, he might be going for something a bit more trashy/grindhousey than previous
Alien efforts have really been? Like
Covenant's shower scene, spread across the duration of a film?
I hope this is the start of a new batch of movies, even if they are not connected to the original tetralogy or the prequels (although I would love to see the third prequel that connects to the original movie).
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 06, 2022, 02:50:13 PM
I guess maybe, using his previous works as a point of reference here, he might be going for something a bit more trashy/grindhousey than previous Alien efforts have really been? Like Covenant's shower scene, spread across the duration of a film?
So... AVP: Requiem?
Quote from: St_Eddie on Mar 06, 2022, 03:28:54 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 06, 2022, 02:50:13 PM
I guess maybe, using his previous works as a point of reference here, he might be going for something a bit more trashy/grindhousey than previous Alien efforts have really been? Like Covenant's shower scene, spread across the duration of a film?
So... AVP: Requiem?
I would hope and think that it would be more competently made than that pile of shit but... yeah, a more streamlined, general slasher film (with some tense thriller elements) is definitely what springs to mind when I think Alvarez and his work. Really not sure how I feel about that approach for an
Alien movie, but here we are I guess. Only time will tell.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 06, 2022, 11:51:01 AM
That new movie better come with a new toy, or that thumbnail will leave me severely disappointed! ;D
Not going to be a regular thing outside of toy reviews and news dealing with the figures. Just wanted to try something other than the usual 2-3 production stills most other sites seem to use. But yeah as I discovered folks can still tell it's a toy and that wasn't what I was going for.
Quote from: Prez on Mar 06, 2022, 12:21:10 PM
Smaller, more personal stories. We've seen some great ones in the old Dark Horse EU.
And whilst we'd all love the big budget theatrical spectacle I'm intrigued where this goes.
No black goo. No engineers. No Androids. No flutes or fingering. Just give us a classic haunted house and unstoppable monster movie again.
For real.
Honestly really looking forward to this, and it's great that we have an upcoming feature film for both franchises sooner than I was expecting. I'd love to see something like the 40th Anniversary shorts concept but taken to a full feature. I think Alien could push back into horror more, and hopefully Alvarez will deliver.
Part of me does still want to see the prequel trilogy completed. Regardless of my personal feelings, I know they have their fans and they deserve a conclusion to David's story with a film that doesn't end on a cliffhanger.
Not a fan of any of those other movies.
Though Jane Levy is nice. Maybe she'll be in this one.
Lol Not sure how I feel about this at the moment. These comments tho regarding this announcement is something else...
Quote from: RidgeTop on Mar 06, 2022, 10:13:54 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 06, 2022, 11:51:01 AM
That new movie better come with a new toy, or that thumbnail will leave me severely disappointed! ;D
Not going to be a regular thing outside of toy reviews and news dealing with the figures. Just wanted to try something other than the usual 2-3 production stills most other sites seem to use. But yeah as I discovered folks can still tell it's a toy and that wasn't what I was going for.
Quote from: Prez on Mar 06, 2022, 12:21:10 PM
Smaller, more personal stories. We've seen some great ones in the old Dark Horse EU.
And whilst we'd all love the big budget theatrical spectacle I'm intrigued where this goes.
No black goo. No engineers. No Androids. No flutes or fingering. Just give us a classic haunted house and unstoppable monster movie again.
.... I'd love to see something like the 40th Anniversary shorts concept but taken to a full feature. I think Alien could push back into horror more, and hopefully Alvarez will deliver....
This is exactly what sprung to my mind too.
That's what I was exactly saying two months ago, and then wam, bam, thank you ma'am Voodoo!
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Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 07, 2022, 01:47:54 AM
That's what I was exactly saying two months ago, and then wam, bam, thank you ma'am Voodoo!
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End credits rolling and we see.
Special thanks to:
Voodoo
Quote from: RidgeTop on Mar 06, 2022, 11:10:46 AM
Quote from: Kradan on Mar 06, 2022, 07:11:37 AM
I see RidgeTop is handling thumbnails now ;)
RidgeTop's always been handling the thumbnails :P.
Pft. I believe the ratio is likely the other direction. But general rule of thumb - if it's some nice looking photoshop on the Motion Tracker ones, it's RT. If it's not, it's me.
QuoteQuote from: Local Trouble on Mar 06, 2022, 10:49:10 AM
I didn't watch it yet. Were there F bombs?
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/80/95/c6/8095c6f3ec806d836029484625559884.gif
Do not believe so. :laugh:
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 06, 2022, 12:05:48 PM
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Mar 05, 2022, 07:15:47 PM
As long as Ridley isn't attached to this, I'm in.
I really never understood this position personally to be honest. From a general public's perception, he's made one out of three good Alien films. He's a father of the classic 1979 Alien, indeed, but he's one of many fathers. And I wouldn't want anyone who's deeply in a position of 'the beast is cooked' to helm a new Alien film...
I genuinely fear Ridley's narrative influence these days. Just let Scott Free pay the bills, and use the name as a selling point.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Mar 06, 2022, 12:20:42 PM
I'm gutted that Hicks doesn't like the Evil Dead series or Sam Raimi 😆
I tried. I couldn't take them seriously and I just didn't like the corniness. The charm didn't appeal to me.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 06, 2022, 01:42:42 PM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Mar 06, 2022, 12:20:42 PM
I'm gutted that Hicks doesn't like the Evil Dead series or Sam Raimi 😆
He's known to have the opposite of good taste regarding the Spider-Man franchise so that's unsurprising.
Pft. The original trilogy didn't age well (though SM2 is still fantastic). But I just prefer Garfield and Holland over McGuire.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Mar 06, 2022, 10:13:54 PM
Part of me does still want to see the prequel trilogy completed. Regardless of my personal feelings, I know they have their fans and they deserve a conclusion to David's story with a film that doesn't end on a cliffhanger.
No thank you. I do not want to risk that in the slightest.
Honestly, I'm excited. I can't not be when a new project is announced. But I'll swing down to cautiously optimistic as I usually do. But the very prospect is exciting to me. I've been wanting to see them take Alien down in scale - I think we talked about it on the "what we want for the future" podcast - to see what they can do. I enjoyed the Evil Dead remake - it was intense, it was creepy looking. One of only 2 films I ever had to walk out of the cinema for a breather outside, the other was due to too many flumps and too much pizza and gore combined. So I'm hoping we get some intensity and tension to this new one.
I'm going to go see Don't Breath though. It's generally well regarded and I like Lang. It's one of those ones that's been on my radar but just not committed to yet. Just really looking forward to hearing more about this.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 07, 2022, 10:21:40 AM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Mar 06, 2022, 11:10:46 AM
Quote from: Kradan on Mar 06, 2022, 07:11:37 AM
I see RidgeTop is handling thumbnails now ;)
RidgeTop's always been handling the thumbnails :P.
Pft. I believe the ratio is likely the other direction. But general rule of thumb - if it's some nice looking photoshop on the Motion Tracker ones, it's RT. If it's not, it's me.
QuoteQuote from: Local Trouble on Mar 06, 2022, 10:49:10 AM
I didn't watch it yet. Were there F bombs?
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/80/95/c6/8095c6f3ec806d836029484625559884.gif
Do not believe so. :laugh:
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 06, 2022, 12:05:48 PM
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Mar 05, 2022, 07:15:47 PM
As long as Ridley isn't attached to this, I'm in.
I really never understood this position personally to be honest. From a general public's perception, he's made one out of three good Alien films. He's a father of the classic 1979 Alien, indeed, but he's one of many fathers. And I wouldn't want anyone who's deeply in a position of 'the beast is cooked' to helm a new Alien film...
I genuinely fear Ridley's narrative influence these days. Just let Scott Free pay the bills, and use the name as a selling point.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Mar 06, 2022, 12:20:42 PM
I'm gutted that Hicks doesn't like the Evil Dead series or Sam Raimi 😆
I tried. I couldn't take them seriously and I just didn't like the corniness. The charm didn't appeal to me.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 06, 2022, 01:42:42 PM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Mar 06, 2022, 12:20:42 PM
I'm gutted that Hicks doesn't like the Evil Dead series or Sam Raimi 😆
He's known to have the opposite of good taste regarding the Spider-Man franchise so that's unsurprising.
Pft. The original trilogy didn't age well (though SM2 is still fantastic). But I just prefer Garfield and Holland over McGuire.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Mar 06, 2022, 10:13:54 PM
Part of me does still want to see the prequel trilogy completed. Regardless of my personal feelings, I know they have their fans and they deserve a conclusion to David's story with a film that doesn't end on a cliffhanger.
No thank you. I do not want to risk that in the slightest.
Honestly, I'm excited. I can't not be when a new project is announced. But I'll swing down to cautiously optimistic as I usually do. But the very prospect is exciting to me. I've been wanting to see them take Alien down in scale - I think we talked about it on the "what we want for the future" podcast - to see what they can do. I enjoyed the Evil Dead remake - it was intense, it was creepy looking. One of only 2 films I ever had to walk out of the cinema for a breather outside, the other was due to too many flumps and too much pizza and gore combined. So I'm hoping we get some intensity and tension to this new one.
I'm going to go see Don't Breath though. It's generally well regarded and I like Lang. It's one of those ones that's been on my radar but just not committed to yet. Just really looking forward to hearing more about this.
Don't Breathe has for me the single most grossest scene I have ever watched in all my nearly 50 years ... and that's saying something seeing I've seen so many horror films in my life. You'll know which bit it is when you see it. I literally gagged.
Bit of a pity that it seems like Fox is officially out of the theatrical movie business, but weirdly streaming is where the quality is these days. Turn this into a feature-length anthology series and I'm in. Forget that thing Hawley's doing, just give us meaty standalone stories that are a slice of the alien universe, seeing them pop up in different places and times.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, there's dozens of great comics and novels in the expanded canon that would be great to adapt in this fashion. Each of the classic Dark Horse Comics series fits neatly into a 1.5 - 2 hour time slot. Kinda worried about whatever new take Alvarez has, but at least it's not Ridley directing (the franchise is named ALIEN, not Android!)
This is devastating news as I was so looking forward to Scidley Rotts hotly anticipated Covenant 5.5:
"David & Walter Present The Flute sessions", a 2 and a half hour musical extravaganza featuring such hits as:
Resins to be Cheerful 3.5
Do You Believe in Magic? (teleporting eggs)
(Wey) Land of Make Believe
Shaddupaya Face (hugger)
Love Like (acid for) Blood
Xeno Go
Killer Queen
My Xenoration
Goo Are you? (Goo, Goo, Goo Goo..)
If I Can't Hive You
I'm The Urban Space Jockey
My Wey (featuring the man himself, Scidley Rott)
and many, many more I can't think of for now
Why don't you guys just register so you can be funny all the time? :laugh:
Quote from: Kimarhi on Mar 09, 2022, 03:42:58 AM
Why don't you guys just register so you can be funny all the time? :laugh:
I reckon they're the Facebook people who already post frequently but over there. A bit of crossover banter on the main news threads here is all we get.
Quote from: Prez on Mar 07, 2022, 05:57:20 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 07, 2022, 01:47:54 AM
That's what I was exactly saying two months ago, and then wam, bam, thank you ma'am Voodoo!
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End credits rolling and we see.
Special thanks to:
Voodoo
Too much to ask? ;D
So, I'm assuming for us non-'Muricans it'll be on Disney +?
We'll have to wait to see how they handle Prey, but I expect so. That's where the other Alien/Predator films are.
I like indie horror movies with content that the big studios don't see as profitable (Possessor, Midsommar, etc)
I wonder how safe 20th Century Studios is going to play with the Alien?
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Don't Breathe has for me the single most grossest scene I have ever watched in all my nearly 50 years ... and that's saying something seeing I've seen so many horror films in my life. You'll know which bit it is when you see it. I literally gagged.
Taste the Baste!!!!!
Alvarez is a good director, interesting to see his style applied to an alien movie.
I'm very excited to see Alvarez's take! I wish we knew what his specific interests are in the series, I'm hoping he was also fascinated by the original mystery of the space jockey and that we see some more Lovecraftian influence.
I should add that I mean a smaller scale, with only the faintest hints of a true space jockey over the engineers.
Quote from: NoStyleDutch on Mar 15, 2022, 10:11:52 PM
I'm very excited to see Alvarez's take! I wish we knew what his specific interests are in the series, I'm hoping he was also fascinated by the original mystery of the space jockey and that we see some more Lovecraftian influence.
I should add that I mean a smaller scale, with only the faintest hints of a true space jockey over the engineers.
Perhaps the Space Jockey has always been one of a kind, whether it's: David, a hybrid or mutated Engineer, a being that the Engineers have been emulating... which may or may not be their creator, etc.
Anyway, as far as we can see with the little information we have, it's a standalone movie. I wonder if it's going to be like his Evil Dead movie, which is considered to be
"soft reboot / continuation 'requel' of the original film series". 🤔
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I haven't seen enough of his filmography to have any idea what scope we should expect from him, although at least we know that Ridley Scott is the producer.
But absolutely yeah! I want more alien geometries + eldritch abominations + transhuman abominations + cosmic horror + Giger aesthetics..please! 8)🙏
my hope still lies in the jockey being a species the engineers emulated lol
I recently read an interview where Fede said he considers his evil dead to be just a sequel in the series, pointing to Ash's car being outside the cabin. I don't like all the new terms that are thrown about. Reboots used to be the name for what we now call remakes. And what are often called reboots now are just sequels that have taken a while to arrive.
I love that it's gonna be its own standalone story, though I still wouldn't mine some connections to the larger ideas of the universe from different character perspectives! I know I'm not saying anything new here, but even though I love or at least appreciate all of the Ellen Ripley Alien movies, I believe it held the series back in some ways. Hopefully, this new one takes place post-AR and we can move forward!
Quote from: NoStyleDutch on Mar 16, 2022, 01:36:55 AM
I don't like all the new terms that are thrown about. Reboots used to be the name for what we now call remakes. And what are often called reboots now are just sequels that have taken a while to arrive.
That's not quite accurate. A remake is a retelling of the same story, but done in a new way (though sometimes with very few differences, see Psycho). A reboot is a restart of a lapsed series, usually set in a separate continuity, though occasionally just a long delayed sequel, as you mentioned.
Usually, when a reboot is still in original continuity, as with Fede Alvarez's
Evil Dead, it's classed as a reboot because it involves a different set of characters and, for all intents and purposes, has little to do with the original series.
You can also have reboots which are sequels.
Halloween 2018 is a prime example of this. It's a reboot of the series, with a new line of continuity that doesn't acknowledge any of the original sequels, but is a sequel in itself to the original
Halloween from 1978.
With Alvarez's Alien film, I'm guessing it will be similar to his
Evil Dead. In continuity with everything else, but not directly connected to characters, creatures, or places we've seen before.
Reboot: we're out of ideas, but we want more money.
Remake: we're out of ideas, but we want more money.
They always want money.
But reboot meaning no new ideas?
Not according to Ridley on this.
"Reboot" isn't even a word I really put any stock into at this point – it's basically just a catch-all term with so many scattered meanings that trying to actually pinpoint it has become senseless. A full-on sequel, a partial-sequel ignoring certain installments, a film in continuity that stands on its own, old actors/filmmakers returning, a new filmmaker or actors coming in, a shift in the tone/style, a return to the initial tone/style, a return to a series after some time off, a remake, etc. are all descriptors that have been categorized as "reboots" in one capacity or another at this point. The word has been used so much that it has essentially lost all meaning to me beyond the idea that the work is part of an established property.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 16, 2022, 12:44:04 PM
"Reboot" isn't even a word I really put any stock into at this point – it's basically just a catch-all term with so many scattered meanings that trying to actually pinpoint it has become senseless. A full-on sequel, a partial-sequel ignoring certain installments, a film in continuity that stands on its own, old actors/filmmakers returning, a new filmmaker or actors coming in, a shift in the tone/style, a return to the initial tone/style, a return to a series after some time off, a remake, etc. are all descriptors that have been categorized as "reboots" in one capacity or another at this point. The word has been used to much that it has essentially lost all meaning to me beyond meaning that the work is part of an established property.
That's why I prefer to just say "it's a sequel" then whatever of the above descriptions apply. Lol
It's a standalone film, set in the Alien universe, that's the most apt description.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 16, 2022, 01:08:30 PM
It's a standalone film, set in the Alien universe, that's the most apt description.
Aye, that's definitely the impression I'm getting from all of the wishy-washy terminology surrounding this one.
Hopefully its set maybe around 20-30 years after Alien 3. I like to think after the events of that movie Weyland-Yutani invested significantly in trying to find the creature again but it would take significant time to trace another contact.
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Mar 16, 2022, 04:28:10 PM
Hopefully its set maybe around 20-30 years after Alien 3. I like to think after the events of that movie Weyland-Yutani invested significantly in trying to find the creature again but it would take significant time to trace another contact.
I would imagine the very same, regarding Weyland-Yutani... but for the purposes of this film, it would be a breath of fresh air to get a movie not featuring the company, I think.
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Mar 16, 2022, 04:28:10 PM
Hopefully its set maybe around 20-30 years after Alien 3. I like to think after the events of that movie Weyland-Yutani invested significantly in trying to find the creature again but it would take significant time to trace another contact.
The danger here is that it would diminish Ripley's sacrifice in Alien 3. Alien Resurrection at least had the decency to take place 200 years after Alien 3 while also having to resort to cloning in order to bring back the alien.
Good point. However, while it's true that after Resurrection it seems the perfect spot to place an independent story that at the same time doesn't screw the main character goals / time line...if a standalone film doesn't have any relation with other the movies of the series (that's new setting, characters, company, villains) then it doesn't matter in which part of the time line is taking place.
Also, perhaps LV-426's Derelict isn't the only place Alien Eggs can be found. Or it could be a side story taking place in the same universe that coincidentally features Aliens. But, there's any trace of Ripley, the Company, the Space Jockeys, etc. Just a bunch of new characters having a fatal encounter with the monster we all love. :laugh:
So either goes back to the roots of the original (not in a literal way) or deliver something fresh. 8)
I dont think it does necessarily. 20-30 yrs makes Ripley's sacrifice seem notable. Id imagine the company spent billions on deep space ventures trying to find the creature. It's inevitable they would find it eventually. If nothing else Ripley's sacrifice stalled the company's bioweapons research for a number of decades at least.
Id argue Resurrection went too far setting it so far in the future. It arguably jettisoned all the world building of the first three films.
I just think post Alien 3, the universe is well established, as the RPG has proved, and it seems the perfect jumping off point to craft a new story.
I still think the company could have found the carcass of the royal facehugger and cloned that. Maybe it took decades before they got it working.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Mar 16, 2022, 07:08:32 PM
The danger here is that it would diminish Ripley's sacrifice in Alien 3. Alien Resurrection at least had the decency to take place 200 years after Alien 3 while also having to resort to cloning in order to bring back the alien.
Quote from: SM on Oct 14, 2018, 08:22:16 AM
It would just mean that Ripley's sacrifice was as pointless as the deaths of Hicks and Newt.
There's an SM quote for virtually any situation.
Can he see in the future ?
I wouldn't rule it out.
I need his review of The Batman 😶
Yeah I never liked that Resurrection took place so far in the future compared to Alien 3, because it definitely felt like they threw out a lot of the world building of the original films only to replace it with......nothing that looked like it was that much more advanced than anything we'd seen before anyway.
Plus it makes you wonder what the hell the Company (or United Systems Military) were even doing that entire time if it took them two entire centuries for someone to finally say ".......so, cloning Ripley, then?" as their way of finally getting hold of an Alien.
But yeah I just think it'll more than likely be some contained, isolated story that doesn't even have to feature Weyland-Yutani in any capacity, nor even particularly explain where the Alien/s that are going to be in it come from. Just have some rock miners haul in a large meteor that has an egg on it or something, or some planet excavators dig into some cavern on a random planet and find a few in there. It's not like the original films ever gave us an answer to where the ones on the ship came from to begin with.
And yep, I also never bought the argument for not having any Alien films set fairly soon after Alien 3 because is meant Ripley's sacrifice was for nothing, when A) Alien 3 already makes everything Newt and Hicks went through in Aliens count for nothing, and B) one of the things a lot of people seem to like about that movie is that it's so bleak. Why not go "full bleak" then and say her sacrifice was for nothing? You can't get much bleaker than that!
I like the way the RPG is handling it where a few years after Alien 3 they're not so common that they're popping up on every planet now and the Company has all the Alien samples they could want, but they're certainly still out there.
Plus if you set it in that kind of time period, Alien Resurrection is still so far off that you could just make up whatever head canon you like about why there weren't any around anymore at that point in time that they felt the need to clone Ripley to get some. It's not something you'd even need to address.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 16, 2022, 09:27:54 PM
I need his review of The Batman 😶
Did it carry on the tradition of Alien 3 cast members getting beaten up by Batman on roof tops?
I can't believe how long it took me to get that joke
Alien³'s a hopeful film imo honestly, the sun does rise again in spite of everything that's just happened, it's just one that revels in how everything can just go sideways in life and often infuriatingly does even when you think you have accounted for every possibility.
Local trouble: do you have qoutes from SM saved down, ready to be posted on the forum? As you seem to always have one ready to be posted these days xD
Indeed! :o
He's like a librarian who is not only providing us with information about SM posts, but also has them classified in sections and genres.
Yes, I have a dusty old tome filled with SM quotes that I liberated from the Vatican archives.
Vatican archives? Are there tomes on the fabled Engineer Jesus in there?
Yes, they're in the Apocrypha section.
To me having a movie set between 3 and resurrection wouldn't go against her sacrifice. In Ripley's mind, it was saving everyone so her motive behind it means more to me than anything.
I'd rather it got set after Resurrection so something worth the time of day exists in that period, also I think it suits Fede Alvarez's sensibilities more honestly, in certain respects I expect a mix of Prometheus and the aforementioned in terms of miserable shock horror.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 16, 2022, 09:36:21 PM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 16, 2022, 09:27:54 PM
I need his review of The Batman 😶
Did it carry on the tradition of Alien 3 cast members getting beaten up by Batman on roof tops?
Technically isn't it the other way around? The guy got beaten up by Batman, and then Gotham PD shipped him off to Fiorina 161...
I'm not at all opposed to it being set post Alien 3. Ripley died preventing the company from ever getting it, and I don't expect this movie ends with the company getting it's samples.
When it as reported as unconnected to the previous movies, I truly hope it's fully unconnected, and doesn't even indicate a year or ever mention the names Weyland or Yutani. Just give me a creepy, cool, back to basics Alien horror movie! Yasssss!
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 17, 2022, 02:32:27 PM
When it as reported as unconnected to the previous movies, I truly hope it's fully unconnected, and doesn't even indicate a year or ever mention the names Weyland or Yutani. Just give me a creepy, cool, back to basics Alien horror movie! Yasssss!
Yes! Some new, poor souls in some other part of the galaxy stumble upon the worst day of their lives!
interesting notion. If they can incorporate anything as devious as the life cycle or some kind of lore, I'm down.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 17, 2022, 02:32:27 PM
When it as reported as unconnected to the previous movies, I truly hope it's fully unconnected, and doesn't even indicate a year or ever mention the names Weyland or Yutani. Just give me a creepy, cool, back to basics Alien horror movie! Yasssss!
I don't think it has to be completely detached from existing lore like that, but a more back-to-basics approach is one I'm all up for. That said, also makes me kinda sad we're unlikely to see elaborate Giger-esque sets that I want to see so bad. But if the finished film is just a damn good package at the end of it all, who cares?
Hopefully we might one day be able to work our way back up to that.
These new Alien and Predator movies/show are basically being positioned as "new beginnings" for the Disney era, starting off small with back to basics approaches, at least by all the accounts we're hearing. So hopefully if and when they're able to nail those basics and get themselves some solid foundations to move forward we might eventually get to the point where we're finally able to see that Giger-esque hive world we should have seen in something live-action by now (looking at you, Covenant!).
Quote from: Kailem on Mar 18, 2022, 03:40:46 PM
Hopefully we might one day be able to work our way back up to that.
These new Alien and Predator movies/show are basically being positioned as "new beginnings" for the Disney era, starting off small with back to basics approaches, at least by all the accounts we're hearing. So hopefully if and when they're able to nail those basics and get themselves some solid foundations to move forward..
The Fede Alvarez movie will be Disney's Alien equivalent to The Force Awakens; a safe regurgitation of the franchise basics. After that we can look forward to their Alien equivalent to The Last Jedi and The Rise of Skywalker. There's nothing to be optimistic about with The Mouse in charge.
Quote from: St_Eddie on Mar 18, 2022, 04:47:17 PM
Quote from: Kailem on Mar 18, 2022, 03:40:46 PM
Hopefully we might one day be able to work our way back up to that.
These new Alien and Predator movies/show are basically being positioned as "new beginnings" for the Disney era, starting off small with back to basics approaches, at least by all the accounts we're hearing. So hopefully if and when they're able to nail those basics and get themselves some solid foundations to move forward..
The Fede Alvarez movie will be Disney's Alien equivalent to The Force Awakens; a safe regurgitation of the franchise basics. After that we can look forward to their Alien equivalent to The Last Jedi and The Rise of Skywalker. There's nothing to be optimistic about with The Mouse in charge.
But you have a completely separate group of folks who are working on those that come from different backgrounds as opposed to JJ Abrams and company.
Although there is definitely concern, I refuse to believe the end product being any where close to the bastardized RoS.
Quote from: St_Eddie on Mar 18, 2022, 04:47:17 PM
Quote from: Kailem on Mar 18, 2022, 03:40:46 PM
Hopefully we might one day be able to work our way back up to that.
These new Alien and Predator movies/show are basically being positioned as "new beginnings" for the Disney era, starting off small with back to basics approaches, at least by all the accounts we're hearing. So hopefully if and when they're able to nail those basics and get themselves some solid foundations to move forward..
The Fede Alvarez movie will be Disney's Alien equivalent to The Force Awakens; a safe regurgitation of the franchise basics. After that we can look forward to their Alien equivalent to The Last Jedi and The Rise of Skywalker. There's nothing to be optimistic about with The Mouse in charge.
I don't fully think that, the Alvarez Evil Dead movie stands on its own with the same basic premise as the Raimi original. So even if Alvarez does a barebones "space truckers bring an alien on board" movie I expect it will look and feel very different to Ridleys film. Also JJ Abrams is a very special kind of nostalgia hack.
I can't say I'm excited about anything within the franchise anymore even though both Charybdis and FTE (however briefly in FTE's case) both got my fandom off of life support, but if this film is kind of a soft reboot of the original movie with new sets and designs then I'd be down. If it is something completely new I'm also down. Because at its best it could get a person to do nekkie helicopters and at its worst you can just forget about it.
I've wanted to see a modernized Alien story just small scale shot with new tech for awhile now.
Out of curiosity for some of you guys who aren't at all excited about this, what would the movie have to be for you to be glad you saw it? Lets say the movie succeeds at being a conventional "alien picks off 10 Little Indians" horror movie what more/extra/different is there you could've wanted?
I want to see how much more immersive the same style of story could be told today.
I understand the people that say Alien is a perfect horror movie that doesn't need any changes or remakes. It is my favorite movie of all time.
But l liken to wanting the same kind of thing but newer to wanting a new car. A person doesn't always need a new car, but its nice to have one anyways.
Quote from: Kimarhi on Mar 25, 2022, 12:41:56 AM
But l liken to wanting the same kind of thing but newer to wanting a new car. A person doesn't always need a new car, but its nice to have one anyways.
With the right aesthetics and script, a standalone Alien movie can be good without being a remake of the original. We've never had it, but I don't think it's impossible, is it?
Alvarez is just Eli Roth 2.0
Just another edgelord.
the lead actress from Evil Dead and Don't Breathe had a falling out with him due to him being an asshole on set.
but the fact that Ridley picked Alvarez specifically does make me curious about his take.
Ridley probably connected with his method of torturing actors for performance.
Alfred Hitchcock Syndrome
Quote from: skhellter on Mar 25, 2022, 11:00:06 PM
Just another edgelord.
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Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 25, 2022, 08:23:01 PM
Quote from: Kimarhi on Mar 25, 2022, 12:41:56 AM
But l liken to wanting the same kind of thing but newer to wanting a new car. A person doesn't always need a new car, but its nice to have one anyways.
With the right aesthetics and script, a standalone Alien movie can be good without being a remake of the original. We've never had it, but I don't think it's impossible, is it?
I'm just going to go on a limb and say that the first standalone movie in the franchise probably isn't going to push the series forward and is probably looking to recapture the spooks from the first film with new tech.
I don't know if it will be a shot for shot actual "remake" but more like a soft reboot to see if people still like Alien's style.
People want those big time grandiose interwoven stories now so there is a chance that it might be a starting point for something else just because that is what fans want.
Haha... Alvarez just posted a "Happy Alien Day" Tweet, realized he had the wrong month, and deleted it.
Better go and scrub all the LV-326 references from his script. ;)
The fact he at least knows about the existence of The Alien Day is nice, I suppose
I bet Ridley doesn't know lol
"I once said to Ridley "Happy Alien Day!" and he looked at me like I'd just slapped him in the face, so that was the last time anyone talked about that."
Somehow Im more afraid of seeing Ridley and what he says, than the xenomorph itself. ;D
"I wanted to scare the shit out of people. That's the job ..." - Ridley Scott
QuoteHaha... Alvarez just posted a "Happy Alien Day" Tweet, realized he had the wrong month, and deleted it.
Better go and scrub all the LV-326 references from his script. ;)
So this guy is so clueless he doesn't even know the correct date for Alien day?
Fede Alvarez's movie is justified by future SM content on YouTube. Kind of like Roko's Basilisk.
I would have liked to see a sequel to the Covenant storyline, but I'll settle for this. I'm just glad the Alvarez movie has nothing to do with Ripley.
Hopefully the cameras can start rolling for a single shot before this one is also dismissed as "woke trash".
Quote from: Nukiemorph on Mar 30, 2022, 12:21:05 AM
Hopefully the cameras can start rolling for a single shot before this one is also dismissed as "woke trash".
Mr H is prepping his script as we speak.
Quote from: Kailem on Mar 27, 2022, 02:21:59 PM
"I once said to Ridley "Happy Alien Day!" and he looked at me like I'd just slapped him in the face, so that was the last time anyone talked about that."
(https://c.tenor.com/5Z-lf2IeYuUAAAAd/i-understood-that-reference-chris-evans.gif)
May 22, 2022, 09:25:59 AMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 26, 2022, 11:31:47 PM
Haha... Alvarez just posted a "Happy Alien Day" Tweet, realized he had the wrong month, and deleted it.
Remember, Alvarez' film will be unconnected to all that happened before in Alien, so clearly he's a step ahead of all us. We're talking a brand new universe with a brand new Alien day. :)
https://twitter.com/fedalvar/status/1519046795195650048
Alien 3, of course.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 26, 2022, 08:17:46 PM
https://twitter.com/fedalvar/status/1519046795195650048
Alien 3, of course.
Who knows. This may be the start of something really special. I hope that Fede immerses himself in the fascinating world of Alien 3.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 26, 2022, 08:17:46 PM
https://twitter.com/fedalvar/status/1519046795195650048
Alien 3, of course.
Ok, so looks like he figured out which day Alien day is but is now struggling to figure out the various types of aliens from the movies?
I bet Riddles himself wouldn't know that
Nah, Riddlez knows his shit.
He directed the first movie, visited the Alien 3 set and knows which day is Alien day.
I bet Riddles despises Alien day and probably wouldn't know of its existence if his people hadn't told him to sit down and begrudgingly record a video for it.
:laugh:
Nah, I think he's cool with Alien day. It's his legacy after all. He said he wanted the Alien franchise on par with Star Wars.
If it was called Aliens day however, that would have been a different kettle of fish altogether! :laugh:
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Apr 27, 2022, 10:17:11 AM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 26, 2022, 08:17:46 PM
https://twitter.com/fedalvar/status/1519046795195650048
Alien 3, of course.
Ok, so looks like he figured out which day Alien day is but is now struggling to figure out the various types of aliens from the movies?
It seems with his film that won't really matter.
What do you mean?
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 27, 2022, 12:48:14 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Apr 27, 2022, 10:17:11 AM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 26, 2022, 08:17:46 PM
https://twitter.com/fedalvar/status/1519046795195650048
Alien 3, of course.
Ok, so looks like he figured out which day Alien day is but is now struggling to figure out the various types of aliens from the movies?
It seems with his film that won't really matter.
In the sense that
Alien 3 (or any of the other films) are unlikely to directly feed into this movie, sure, but it would be nice to know the guy steering he ship has a keen enough eye to recognize different design traits and tendencies and not just see it all as the same thing (like the mentality that got us repurposed
Resurrection Aliens in AVP), since the expectation is very much going to be on him and his work to reinterpret the material and hopefully bring something new and intetesting to the table of his own.
One of my biggest fears right now is that whatever Aliens are designed by Weta for the Hawley show are just going to be passed right on to this project, instead of designing from the ground up for each individual project's own needs and inherent style. There's a lot of that going on right now with the repeated use of what should be pretty distinct props and costumes in the current crop of Star Wars shows and it is pretty blatant at this point.
I expect this to be as run of the mill as it gets honestly, if you want a new and insightful take on Alien, I don't think we will get it here but luckily... Noah Hawley's doing something a lot of people will not agree with because it will be so different from what came before.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Apr 27, 2022, 12:06:50 PM
I bet Riddles despises Alien day and probably wouldn't know of its existence if his people hadn't told him to sit down and begrudgingly record a video for it.
:laugh:
Correct.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Apr 27, 2022, 12:10:50 PM
Nah, I think he's cool with Alien day. It's his legacy after all. He said he wanted the Alien franchise on par with Star Wars.
If it was called Aliens day however, that would have been a different kettle of fish altogether! :laugh:
Pfft. "Alien Day" is nowt but PR promotion gubbins.
To be honest, I could definitely be all for a back-to-basics thing here with this project (though I do still wish we got the Covenant sequel before moving in a new direction with new filmmakers), I just hope the film has some actual personality/identity that allows it to really define itself.
In the case of Alvarez I guess that would likely mean making it a sort of gross-out, schlocky/exploitative splatter horror thing? Definitely something less refined than we've seen from an Alien movie before, a bit rougher around the edges, but if done well and in a way that really owns that style then ok, cool. I could get down with that. Hopefully his film's Alien design actually reflects and embodies those stylistic tendencies, though, and don't just come across as arbitrary or divorced from the overall flavor.
All you can hope for is that his subjective interpretation on what's right for Alien matches up with your's, and not that of some other fan.
TC
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 27, 2022, 01:16:44 PM
I expect this to be as run of the mill as it gets honestly, if you want a new and insightful take on Alien, I don't think we will get it here but luckily... Noah Hawley's doing something a lot of people will not agree with because it will be so different from what came before.
I dont mind if its going be diffrent i just dont care for it becuase it sounds like shit.Some of my favorite alien novels and comics had some out there ideas.Recent example alex white into charybis basically bought back the bugmen of old which i thought was a goofy idea in the darkhorse comics.But he managed to exceute in a way that made it good.Who knows maybe noah hawely might execute the body swaping plot in a good way.
I honestly don't think the comparison you're making works in the slightest, but with Into Charybdis' own narrative it made the idea I railed against intensely not only work but be fascinating, and I feel the same way about the recent revelations of Alien The RPG.
But I'll gladly eat my words if Noah Hawley does not deliver. But I expect he absolutely will.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 27, 2022, 01:31:35 PM
To be honest, I could definitely be all for a back-to-basics thing here with this project (though I do still wish we got the Covenant sequel before moving in a new direction with new filmmakers), I just hope the film has some actual personality/identity that allows it to really define itself.
In the case of Alvarez I guess that would likely mean making it a sort of gross-out, schlocky/exploitative splatter horror thing? Definitely something less refined than we've seen from an Alien movie before, a bit rougher around the edges, but if done well and in a way that really owns that style then ok, cool. I could get down with that. Hopefully his film's Alien design actually reflects and embodies those stylistic tendencies, though, and don't just come across as arbitrary or divorced from the overall flavor.
I very much doubt it sadly, but he could surprise, I doubt they will reuse the same suits or designs one can hope anyway.
Every Alien movie is different, even the AVP ones. Something is good or bad depending on the execution. Alien itself was a well-executed narrative of a story already told years ago. Hard to match that one though.
So let's see what information awaits us in the future about this particular project, since we know nothing about it, beyond the Argentine director's filmography. Although I can understand the lack of excitement.
It's his filmography that gives me pause personally.
Now that Don't Breathe is on Prime in the UK, I watched this the other day. While I'm not saying I'd want Fede to repeat himself, there's a lot of stuff in there that I thought worked really well for Alien. I could imagine some sort of pheromone camouflage and shots of people still trying to move around the Alien, and not make noise.
I know the POV shots aren't popular either, but the whole night vision sequence was pretty interesting and I could see something like that with a new take on the Alien POV. And, of course, the unwanted/forced impregnation aspect.
I really enjoyed it. Think he could do well with a low budget Alien.
I hope he has better script writers than Scott.
Alien had a right to be a B movie in 79 and 86. A simple slasher movie because that's all it really was. A "pretty" slasher movie because of Scott and Cameron but a simple blood and guts survival movie and nothing more.
It doesn't have this right in 2022. We are sick and tired of YET ANOTHER group of people get eaten. That's all it is. People get eaten, blood and guts, roll credits. Think about it. It's all it is. You'd almost be ashamed in admitting you are a fan because of the base simplicity.
The only movie that (nearly) broke this mold was Prometheus.
Just when you thought the producers had woken up to the potential that was there, it went downhill.
Where they could have expanded on the scripts of 79 and 86 and grown the franchise -exponentially- they actually shrunk their own universe by saying an angry robot made that mysterious creature using lab experiments.
It's highschool level script writing.
Imagine if they had used the design language of Giger. Examined why the shapes are so vile and disgusting and beautiful and pleasing at the same time. Satiating the human mind. Repulsive and attractive at the same time. Two opposing emotions felt simultaneously, the base level paradox for a human. A taste of something higher than the processing capacity of the human mind.
Imagine if like Event Horizon the franchise had steered into the realm where the xenomorph originated. Perhaps outside the universe, a realm of pure consciousness and emotion, no memories, no logic, just being. Perhaps where the creator(s) of the universe originate. Perhaps a higher step on the matter-information-consciousness ladder. Perhaps a place where the base level understanding is paradox and all "logic" lies above it. A stupendous shock to our "thinking" the same way it is a stupendous shock to the senses in moving to a 4D world from 3D.
The engineers having tapped into this realm during their toying with genetics.
Imagine a movie not about the simple fear of being eaten, but of the fear of to be or not, to choose between thinking and feeling.
Perhaps to be able to ask the entity there about the dichotomy between emotion and logic.
So much could have been made of this franchise. An examination of the essence of what it means to exist as a consciousness in this universe ALONGSIDE being a slasher movie for the B crowd that like that.
Quote from: gold on May 13, 2022, 12:17:30 AMA simple slasher movie because that's all it really was.
Isn't that a bit reductive ?
insanely reductive.
If people see the first film as only "killer bug goes on a rampage" then they probably don't really understand it.
That's 100% what it was made as though. Everyone was actively working on making an unpretentious scary movie with good production values.
The popular reading of Alien as some kind of deep Arthouse movie is fairly recent.
Quote from: SiL on May 27, 2022, 12:23:36 AMThat's 100% what it was made as though. Everyone was actively working on making an unpretentious scary movie with good production values.
The popular reading of Alien as some kind of deep Arthouse movie is fairly recent.
What SiL said.
Alien is a haunted house movie in space. It's elevated by having Ridley Scott behind the camera, but it's still just a horror movie.
You have to remember that it was originally going to be called Star Beast, and in its inception it was basically an extension of Dark Star, where the alien was a beach ball with feet.
Quote from: Stitch on May 27, 2022, 12:34:12 AMYou have to remember that it was originally going to be called Star Beast, and in its inception it was basically an extension of Dark Star, where the alien was a beach ball with feet.
He cute
(https://geekd-out.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Dark-Star.jpg)
Quote from: [cancerblack] on May 27, 2022, 01:30:24 AMQuote from: Stitch on May 27, 2022, 12:34:12 AMYou have to remember that it was originally going to be called Star Beast, and in its inception it was basically an extension of Dark Star, where the alien was a beach ball with feet.
He cute
https://geekd-out.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Dark-Star.jpg
Thanks.
It was originally going to be taken to Roger Corman.
Most of the symbolism of the movie comes from its art design than anything that was ever deeply intended. Rape and birth were obviously important themes but giving that to Giger to design ramped it up to 11.
Like with any movie you can read it as you will, but at its heart Alien is a scary movie about a rampaging monster first and your art degree dissertation topic second.
Even Scott said that Alien is a B-class movie with A-class budget.
The soft-remake oft IT! The Terror from Beyond Space made 21 years later and with the best movie crew ever ;D
(https://i.ibb.co/DVtXrCJ/4802f.jpg)
O'Bannon was so open about his sources and yet he swore blind he never saw that one ;D
"It doesn't have to be that sophisticated, you know... you can MAKE it sophisticated."
-Ridley Scott
And there is sophistication in its execution.
Is still a movie about a rampaging monster though.
They reinvented the wheel with the execution of Alien.
I'm all for Fede doubling down on the trash. We all survived Requiem, doing it with someone actually competent who can execute it with actual flair would be a nice way to stand out.
Trash/schlock is definitely the angle I'm expecting him to shoot for here. If Alien is a B-movie premise with A-level execution, this is likely going to be going to be a twist on those same bones but aiming for more of a grindhouse/exploitation feel. That's very much Fede's wheelhouse.
After years of focusing on creation, Engineers, David, the black goo... I'm just excited to have an Alien movie about an Alien again!
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on May 28, 2022, 02:46:28 PMAfter years of focusing on creation, Engineers, David, the black goo... I'm just excited to have an Alien movie about an Alien again!
That's what you think...
That black oo is onna be oozing from every ole ossible oh yeah babe
Quote from: Kradan on May 28, 2022, 06:59:30 PMThat black oo is onna be oozing from every ole ossible oh yeah babe
At home, streaming, no one can hear me scream.
;D
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on May 28, 2022, 10:31:36 PMQuote from: Kradan on May 28, 2022, 06:59:30 PMThat black oo is onna be oozing from every ole ossible oh yeah babe
At home, streaming, no one can hear me scream.
30 minutes into Hulu and Chill, and this guy slaps your movie's ass
(https://cdn.pastemagazine.com/www/articles/prometheus%20engineer%20main.jpg)
And forty minutes in, two Fassbenders roll in with a flute in hand.
Plot twist, though. It isn't David and Walter. It's Dan and Ron!
Ok, I legitimately LOLed at that.
And I still stand by that new android should be called Gordon
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 29, 2022, 01:53:05 AMAnd forty minutes in, two Fassbenders roll in with a flute in hand.
Plot twist, though. It isn't David and Walter. It's Dan and Ron!
Double plot twist, they're actually both
Michael Fassbender, who's confused as to why he's there, and why there are two of him. Dan and Ron are the names of the twin aliens who burst out of both actors at the same time, smoking cigars.
Shut up and take my money
Quote from: [cancerblack] on May 28, 2022, 10:52:26 PMQuote from: Voodoo Magic on May 28, 2022, 10:31:36 PMQuote from: Kradan on May 28, 2022, 06:59:30 PMThat black oo is onna be oozing from every ole ossible oh yeah babe
At home, streaming, no one can hear me scream.
30 minutes into Hulu and Chill, and this guy slaps your movie's ass
https://cdn.pastemagazine.com/www/articles/prometheus%20engineer%20main.jpg
Dr. Manhattan?
Well, they do both create human life in Damon Lindelof-penned peojects.
Quote from: Kradan on May 29, 2022, 03:59:18 AMOk, I legitimately LOLed at that.
And I still stand by that new android should be called Gordon
Edison- that's a perfect name for an android and in line with Alien naming system.
Naming androids after the letters of alphabet is out of the window at this point. Now they are being named after producers ! f**k yeah !
I'm still pissed off I never saved the interview where it was suggested to Scott and he said that's what he was going to tell everyone from that point on.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 30, 2022, 08:25:49 AMI'm still pissed off I never saved the interview where it was suggested to Scott and he said that's what he was going to tell everyone from that point on.
Yeah, during one of the earlier Covenant press junkets, Scott was asked whether David and Walter were a nod to David Giler and Walter Hill who originally came up with the idea of making Ash an android. To which Scott emphatically replied with "no".
Then in a slightly later Covenant interview, Scott goes on about how David and Walter were named after Giler and Hill and how clever that is. ;D
@HuDaFuK claims he brought the idea to Scott
I can't recall him interviewing Scott? I know the Corporal got to ask Scott and the rest of the cast a few questions.
HuDa was at an earlier group intervie with influencers like Louis Nostromo. I've been over the footage from that in the past looking for something but can't recall if it was about all this.
I'm always thinking of a junket interview where Scott was asked about the Hill/Giler thing and said no, but he was going to start telling people that it was because he liked it. But I've never been able to find it since.
First time since waaay back that I feel genuinely excited for an alien project, more so than for Hawley's series, even though I am curious to see that as well.
I always thought that the naming of David and Walter was ingenious for its own reason (not the debunked "named after the producers" theory); that reason being that David is following the alphabetical naming order of the Alien series and Walter is the opposite to David, yet they are brothers, so David is 4 letters into the alphabet and Walter being the opposite to David, is 4 letters away from the end of the alphabet. Polar but symmetrical opposites.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 30, 2022, 10:08:07 AMHuDa was at an earlier group intervie with influencers like Louis Nostromo. I've been over the footage from that in the past looking for something but can't recall if it was about all this.
I'm always thinking of a junket interview where Scott was asked about the Hill/Giler thing and said no, but he was going to start telling people that it was because he liked it. But I've never been able to find it since.
That's sounds more to me like the writers intended it and Ridley just never picked up on it. If that
is the case, then maybe he shouldn't have been given quite so much control over the franchise.
Quote from: St_Eddie on May 30, 2022, 09:27:26 PMI always thought that the naming of David and Walter was ingenious for its own reason (not the debunked "named after the producers" theory); that reason being that David is following the alphabetical naming order of the Alien series and Walter is the opposite to David, yet they are brothers, so David is 4 letters into the alphabet and Walter being the opposite to David, is 4 letters away from the end of the alphabet. Polar but symmetrical opposites.
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Quote from: [cancerblack] on May 31, 2022, 06:36:53 AMhttps://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/800/023/5ca.jpg
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Urgh. I know it's off-topic but that is just one of the things I find immensely frustrating about Shaw (and people).
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 31, 2022, 02:01:02 PMUrgh. I know it's off-topic but that is just one of the things I find immensely frustrating about Shaw (and people).
Right? Way to torpedo your main character's credibility thirteen minutes in. :D
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 31, 2022, 02:01:02 PMUrgh. I know it's off-topic but that is just one of the things I find immensely frustrating about Shaw (and people).
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Prometheus. The plot is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of metaphysics most of the story will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Davids's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these themes, to realise that they're not just macabre- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Prometheus truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the nuance in Shaw's existential catchphrase "It's what I choose to believe," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Damon Lindelof's genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how I pity them.
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/312/563/05d.jpg)
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Jun 01, 2022, 12:04:41 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on May 31, 2022, 02:01:02 PMUrgh. I know it's off-topic but that is just one of the things I find immensely frustrating about Shaw (and people).
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Prometheus. The plot is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of metaphysics most of the story will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Davids's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these themes, to realise that they're not just macabre- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Prometheus truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the nuance in Shaw's existential catchphrase "It's what I choose to believe," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Damon Lindelof's genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how I pity them.
I've actually read general commentary like this for Alien Covenant, sans the sarcasm.
Jun 01, 2022, 01:05:21 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on May 31, 2022, 02:01:02 PMUrgh. I know it's off-topic but that is just one of the things I find immensely frustrating about Shaw (and people).
"My truth"?
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 01, 2022, 01:01:16 PMQuote from: [cancerblack] on Jun 01, 2022, 12:04:41 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on May 31, 2022, 02:01:02 PMUrgh. I know it's off-topic but that is just one of the things I find immensely frustrating about Shaw (and people).
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Prometheus. The plot is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of metaphysics most of the story will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Davids's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these themes, to realise that they're not just macabre- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Prometheus truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the nuance in Shaw's existential catchphrase "It's what I choose to believe," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Damon Lindelof's genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how I pity them.
I've actually read general commentary like this for Alien Covenant, sans the sarcasm.
That's why it's funny! :P
Quote
Jun 01, 2022, 01:05:21 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 31, 2022, 02:01:02 PMUrgh. I know it's off-topic but that is just one of the things I find immensely frustrating about Shaw (and people).
"My truth"?
Precisely.
Pretentious substitute for "non-negotiable personal opinion."
Often used by academics, this is a convenient phrase for avoiding arguments because people can contradict your opinion but not your "truth."
The phrase is often used when seeking to justify a controversial personal stance or action because people are not allowed to argue with "your truth."https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=My%20Truth
Especially from a scientist character. The whole point of science is to challenge and reevaluate and learn. I just find her and that so frustrating.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 31, 2022, 02:01:02 PMUrgh. I know it's off-topic but that is just one of the things I find immensely frustrating about Shaw (and people).
Just for the record; I was using that image ironically. I also think that it's a terrible line of dialogue and in that moment, it makes Shaw deeply unlikable as a character.
So Prometheus has some pretentious intentions, and a pretentious director huh ? That's pretty accurate ;D
Hope Alvarez doesn't have the same problem, but I'm pretty sure he doesn't. Scott's god complex began pretty late in his career.
Quote from: St_Eddie on May 31, 2022, 01:13:35 PMQuote from: [cancerblack] on May 31, 2022, 06:36:53 AMhttps://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/800/023/5ca.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/2mZkQOJ.jpg
Even the pitying expression on her face annoys me.
According to a comment from Perfect Organism's JM, this is apparently already filming in Puerto Rico.
!!!!!
there's got to be some production article somewhere, probably in spanish.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 05, 2022, 09:46:51 AMAccording to a comment from Perfect Organism's JM, this is apparently already filming in Puerto Rico.
Puerto Rico??
That's a Caribbean island. Probably some kind of tropical/jungle setting then IF true?
The Blue Beetle production is the only major film that I'm currently picking up on radar there.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 05, 2022, 09:46:51 AMAccording to a comment from Perfect Organism's JM, this is apparently already filming in Puerto Rico.
What source? Seems very unlikely it's already filming.
Digging through a lot of the usual suspects (Production Weekly and the like) and haven't been able to find anything yet.
Curious about this, though...
If this is true, from what I'm seeing Puerto Rico's film commission doesn't really seem to be boasting any soundstage/studio space, so if it is shooting there then I'd imagine the reason would be that they want to make some use of the area itself.
https://puertoricofilm.ddec.pr.gov/
Interesting setting if this is true.
Imagines the amazing big idea to just set Alien in the Predator movie.
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Just laying down a summoning circle of urns in an attempt to manifest some actual information about this film at the 20th Century Studios D23 panel on Saturday...
:laugh:
Summoning circle was a bust. Time to put the lid back on the urn.
Nah dude, tip it out, slap people with infectious hands, see what grows.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 05, 2022, 09:46:51 AMAccording to a comment from Perfect Organism's JM, this is apparently already filming in Puerto Rico.
A new comment from JM on their latest episode is now saying that they're now filming in Australia too.
And still no source?
There's nothing anywhere about this. And I'm not talking online or media, I mean production news.
I'd totally believe that they have sources citing that it is going to be filming in Puerto Rico and Australia... but it's hard to wrap my head around the idea of this thing filming totally in secret like this without anything at all beyond these two little bits of information leaking.
On the off chance this is true, I have to wonder just how tiny this movie actually is. Very small budget, very small in scale, totally under the radar.
My gut inclination is to not believe this. But, hey, I guess stranger things have happened, so I'm not going to totally close the book on it...
Even Prey's casting notices were found.
Some other productions have been super secretive.
ex: the new Jonathan Glazer movie. Nobody knows the cast in it.
Sure, i'll trust the podcast for now.
There are plenty of super secretive projects, but this went from "announced" to one random person saying it's filming inside of a couple of weeks.
Not saying it's not happening, I'd just like some receipts.
How intriguing! :o
It's conceivable that they are shooting second unit stuff and background plates.
Crossposting here and in the TV show section because I don't know for sure which one (if either) it applies to but...
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YESSSSS, that would be awesome, his art is gorgeous!
That's great. Nice one Dane!
So as per Nukie's post in the Series board:
Quote from: Nukiemorph on Nov 03, 2022, 01:36:38 AMSomeone else asked if he was involved with the tv show and he said no. So it's probably the Alvarez flick.
Seems like a reasonable shout it's Fede's film. I'm pretty damn excited to have Dane back!
FEDE ALVAREZ TALKS ALIEN AND HORROR WITH PERFECT ORGANISMhttps://www.perfectorganism.com/blog/2022/11/7/fede-alvarez-talks-alien-and-horror-with-perfect-organism
Bite sized, but a few insights into his mind. Nothing about his film, though.
Just noticed that Matt Hatton liked the above posted Instagram post; would love if this means he's working alongside Dane Hallett again.
My friend who is in contact with teamsters and scoopers mentioned the title being Alien: Romulus does that sound right to anyone here in the know?
It does sound like something that would get Ridley hard...
It's been rumoured already, but unconfirmed as yet iirc. Could well be the case if that's the buzz though.
According to this, it's from Daniel RPK:
https://thedisinsider.com/2022/11/17/rumor-next-alien-film-gets-a-title-will-go-to-directly-to-hulu/
Dumb question, I don't know if anyone thought about this, but does anybody think this might be a sequel to "Alien: Covenant"? The rumor title seems like it might be.
I can already see David quoting and praising himself as the next "Romulus", especially after he perfected his Xenomorph empire. Riddles will surely fall behind this.
It is, by all accounts, totally standalone. However it may continue in that theme, which would explain why Ridley liked it so much.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Nov 28, 2022, 03:23:28 AMIt is, by all accounts, totally standalone. However it may continue in that theme, which would explain why Ridley liked it so much.
Gotcha. I really do like the biblical/greek themes that Riddles provided in the prequels, possibly due to my christianity background. It's a damn shame we might not see a conclusion to David's journey, but business is business.
I'm all for Alien: Ship Name that also reflects the movie's theme as an on going thing.
I really enjoyed Alien Covenant but that title was crap.
As crap as renaming the Magellan in post production because of the belief that audiences were too dense to understand that the title "Prometheus" came from the ancient Greek myth.
https://twitter.com/bp_reporter/status/1598656937981263873
I feel hyped because Scott Free is producing 8)
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Dec 02, 2022, 03:58:13 PMhttps://twitter.com/bp_reporter/status/1598656937981263873
I wonder if they got the "Romulus" moniker from sources of their own, or if they're just reporting it under that name because that's what's floating around online?
Whichever the case, it's exciting that this is about to go into production soon!
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 02, 2022, 05:42:03 PMQuote from: The Eighth Passenger on Dec 02, 2022, 03:58:13 PMhttps://twitter.com/bp_reporter/status/1598656937981263873
I wonder if they got the "Romulus" moniker from sources of their own, or if they're just reporting it under that name because that's what's floating around online?
Whichever the case, it's exciting that this is about to go into production soon!
Yeah, that is the question. Although one would assume the local news paper would know what's happening in town from their own sources.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Dec 02, 2022, 04:00:27 PMI feel hyped because Scott Free is producing 8)
Because it increases the chances of seeing half-helmets in this?
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Dec 02, 2022, 05:51:01 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 02, 2022, 05:42:03 PMQuote from: The Eighth Passenger on Dec 02, 2022, 03:58:13 PMhttps://twitter.com/bp_reporter/status/1598656937981263873
I wonder if they got the "Romulus" moniker from sources of their own, or if they're just reporting it under that name because that's what's floating around online?
Whichever the case, it's exciting that this is about to go into production soon!
Yeah, that is the question. Although one would assume the local news paper would know what's happening in town from their own sources.
That is very true. If that does end up being the case, I'm still more so expecting "Romulus" to be a working title rather than what the final film runs with. But I love the implications that come with it.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 02, 2022, 05:52:53 PMQuote from: Immortan Jonesy on Dec 02, 2022, 04:00:27 PMI feel hyped because Scott Free is producing 8)
Because it increases the chances of seeing half-helmets in this?
Half helmets are already a mainstay of the franchise:
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Budapest sounds like an interesting choice of shooting location! I wonder if it was chosen to have some kind of tie in scenes with the Noah Hawleys hulu series.
I think Romulus was a kid raised by wolves
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Quote from: Leggs.obj on Dec 02, 2022, 09:14:25 PMBudapest sounds like an interesting choice of shooting location! I wonder if it was chosen to have some kind of tie in scenes with the Noah Hawleys hulu series.
More likely a generous foreign film rebate scheme resulting in a mult-million dollar discount to the production.
TC
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Dec 04, 2022, 12:32:09 AMI think Romulus was a kid raised by wolves
https://s4.gifyu.com/images/LPwKFZ.gif
So, so what ? What does it matter, that the kid was raised by wol-
Spoiler
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But in this case, who is "Romulus" and who are the entities doing the raising? Which role do the Aliens play?
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 04, 2022, 01:20:02 PMBut in this case, who is "Romulus" and who are the entities doing the raising? Which role do the Aliens play?
Mother and Father, obviously. Is Amanda Collin playing the queen?
Katherine Waterston is the Queen. ;)
But what about Tennessee? :)
Extra biomass.
Quote from: TC on Dec 04, 2022, 01:57:33 AMQuote from: Leggs.obj on Dec 02, 2022, 09:14:25 PMBudapest sounds like an interesting choice of shooting location! I wonder if it was chosen to have some kind of tie in scenes with the Noah Hawleys hulu series.
More likely a generous foreign film rebate scheme resulting in a mult-million dollar discount to the production.
TC
Yep. They filmed BR2049 there too. A lot of films getting shot over there. Aside from the beautiful scenery and history, definitely a govt funded incentive for film makers.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 04, 2022, 10:45:16 PMExtra biomass.
Eggsack
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 04, 2022, 01:20:02 PMBut in this case, who is "Romulus" and who are the entities doing the raising? Which role do the Aliens play?
Romulus is David and he's gonna suck on Peter Weyland's sweet man-tities. Oh, no, wait, forget that
Quote from: Ingwar on Dec 04, 2022, 10:35:10 PMBut what about Tennessee? :)
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Jack Daniels - Tennessee Whiskey
Coincidence? :)
So we know the effects team working on this one. Can't say anything just yet, but I think folks will be pretty excited about it.
Oh, I think they'll be plenty excited!
Hmmm.
betting on Odd studios
Probably Legacy Effects
Legacy would not surprise me and greatly please me.
So not studioGillis then lol ?
Legacy worked on Legion. ;D
Legacy also did some absolutely astounding work on The Shape of Water relatively recently...
I suspect it might be Weta given the tv series but I don't want it to be.
It's Weta or Legacy. We wouldn't care about anyone else.
I would be excited about Odd Studios actually doing oractical Aliens
Spectral motion is also super underrated. they make great stuff.
I hope there will be David and Aliens attack on engineer's planet in final!
Should we be worried about this Director because he made a couple of stinkers movies in the past
He's made some great tense movies.
Quote from: Thatguy2068 on Sep 15, 2023, 09:46:50 AMShould we be worried about this Director because he made a couple of stinkers movies in the past
Fede Alvarez?
Not at all - quite the opposite actually. As a huge fan of 'The Evil Dead' I was incredibly apprehensive about anyone doing a remake (especially some guy with nothing behind his name at the time but a YouTube cgi demo showing robots attacking a city) - but Evil Dead 2013 (which thankfully turned out to be a reboot/sequel rather than a remake) was amazing! And I'm incredibly hard to please when it comes to Evil Dead.
I thought 'Don't Breathe' was a bit "ok but blah" - mainly because it had been so overhyped by the media that we were expecting something "out there" and when it turned out to be just
Spoiler
just the Turkey baster scene
I think my partner and I were "oh..was that it" but the film on its own merits wasn't bad at all (though I haven't seen the sequel).
In Netflix's 'Texas Chainsaw', Fede was back on form. Whilst the movie doesn't even begin to contend with the original, I feel it surpassed any of the sequels and reboots we'd had over the years and felt like the natural progression from the original (cast choices were on point!)
I had actually said in chat only days before the announcement that I'd love Fede to do an 'Alien' movie, as he handles established franchises he enjoys well... and then the announcement came that he was attached an I was overjoyed.
What are the stinkers you are referring to?
Quote from: Acid_Reign161 on Sep 15, 2023, 10:59:40 AMQuote from: Thatguy2068 on Sep 15, 2023, 09:46:50 AMShould we be worried about this Director because he made a couple of stinkers movies in the past
Fede Alvarez?
Not at all - quite the opposite actually. As a huge fan of 'The Evil Dead' I was incredibly apprehensive about anyone doing a remake (especially some guy with nothing behind his name at the time but a YouTube cgi demo showing robots attacking a city) - but Evil Dead 2013 (which thankfully turned out to be a reboot/sequel rather than a remake) was amazing! And I'm incredibly hard to please when it comes to Evil Dead.
I thought 'Don't Breathe' was a bit "ok but blah" - mainly because it had been so overhyped by the media that we were expecting something "out there" and when it turned out to be just Spoiler
just the Turkey baster scene
In Netflix's 'Texas Chainsaw', Fede was back on form. Whilst the movie doesn't even begin to contend with the original, I feel it surpassed any of the sequels and reboots we'd had over the years and felt like the natural progression from the original (cast choices were on point!)
I had actually said in chat only days before the announcement that I'd love Fede to do an 'Alien' movie, as he handles established franchises he enjoys well... and then the announcement came that he was attached an I was overjoyed.
What are the stinkers you are referring to?
I actually did some more research and I found out that he only made 5 movie in total and a TV show, 3 movie and the tv show was received praise. the only movies, they receive bad reviews is Texas chainsaw and a girl in a spider web, and that's about it.
So therefore, his track record is mostly positive and any claims that we should be worried shouldn't hold any weight.
Quote from: Thatguy2068 on Sep 15, 2023, 09:46:50 AMShould we be worried about this Director because he made a couple of stinkers movies in the past
nope.
Evil Dead is incredible and ferocious.
full trust atm.
Quote from: Thatguy2068 on Sep 15, 2023, 09:46:50 AMShould we be worried about this Director because he made a couple of stinkers movies in the past
To be fair, even directors who have done great works can screw the franchise, Ridley Scott's prometheus and Covenant for example. Well made movies but lore and continuity wise...yeah, not great. My opinion though.
The first teaser/trailer for Alien Covenant was released on the Christmas of the year before its theatrical release, so it sure would be nice to see something like that happen with Romulus too.
Although, i'm not sure if the teaser/trailer was hinted or it was simply release as a surprise "christmas gift".
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Dec 23, 2023, 12:36:38 PMThe first teaser/trailer for Alien Covenant was released on the Christmas of the year before its theatrical release, so it sure would be nice to see something like that happen with Romulus too.
Although, i'm not sure if the teaser/trailer was hinted or it was simply release as a surprise "christmas gift".
There were a series of still images released, one a day, leading up to it.
Quote from: SiL on Dec 23, 2023, 01:10:48 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Dec 23, 2023, 12:36:38 PMThe first teaser/trailer for Alien Covenant was released on the Christmas of the year before its theatrical release, so it sure would be nice to see something like that happen with Romulus too.
Although, i'm not sure if the teaser/trailer was hinted or it was simply release as a surprise "christmas gift".
There were a series of still images released, one a day, leading up to it.
Damn, i guess, there goes the little hope i had.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Dec 23, 2023, 12:36:38 PMThe first teaser/trailer for Alien Covenant was released on the Christmas of the year before its theatrical release, so it sure would be nice to see something like that happen with Romulus too.
True, but Covenant's release date was 12 May, 4 months after Christmas. Romulus is only releasing 16 August, more than 7 months after Christmas.
I think Alien Day might be more likely for it's first trailer, but you never know.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Dec 23, 2023, 05:52:14 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Dec 23, 2023, 12:36:38 PMThe first teaser/trailer for Alien Covenant was released on the Christmas of the year before its theatrical release, so it sure would be nice to see something like that happen with Romulus too.
True, but Covenant's release date was 12 May, 4 months after Christmas. Romulus is only releasing 16 August, more than 7 months after Christmas.
I think Alien Day might be more likely for it's first trailer, but you never know.
You are most likely right, but i am gonna keep coping and trying to manifest it into existence.
I can tell you we don't have a trailer cut or near ready to go yet. It's gonna be a little while more before we see something. Like I've hinted, most likely closer to Spring, and at the earliest, sometime in early 2024.
We had known the Christmas drop was coming when Covenant started its marketing. We'd had hints and teasers dropped. I know for a fact they have only just started discussing some of the marketing and it's only just starting the building process there. We won't have trailers or posters until then, which again, is probably early spring time.
so it's dropping on christmas day.
got it.
Quote from: skhellter on Dec 23, 2023, 08:59:18 PMso it's dropping on christmas day.
got it.
So it's agreed then? We can all blame Mike if there's no trailer tomorrow? ;D
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There better be news about a Alien film for Christmas, even a dead one.
or we riot!
i'll be 5% more cantankerous from now on!
Please Lord, if you exist, make your presence known to us by blessing us with a teaser of some sorts hahaha
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Dec 24, 2023, 06:45:56 PMPlease Lord, if you exist, make your presence known to us by blessing us with a teaser of some sorts hahaha
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The new trailer was excellent! The use of the og Goldsmith score got me on board right away. Really dug the new Alien design (even the legs) in that shot by what looked like prototype Power Loaders on board Romulus Station; I'm pretty sure I caught a glimpse of the skull, too.
Also was that voice at the end teasing David? It definitely seemed like a synthetic; I don't think it was Fassbender but the poetry he was reciting and the way he spoke about the "Perfect Creations" had big David vibes. Could he have transferred to a new body maybe?
I'd better NOT see a skull or there will be HELL to pay! >:(
(https://i.imgur.com/G1UGHuq.gif)
You can make up for it by giving SiL some more cryptic hints.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 24, 2023, 08:07:30 PMI'd better NOT see a skull or there will be HELL to pay! >:(
Did you not see it in the footage?
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 24, 2023, 08:15:40 PMQuote from: Local Trouble on Dec 24, 2023, 08:07:30 PMI'd better NOT see a skull or there will be HELL to pay! >:(
Did you not see it in the footage?
I won't let you spoil me the way you always spoil kwisatz! >:(
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 24, 2023, 07:34:54 PMThe new trailer was excellent! The use of the og Goldsmith score got me on board right away. Really dug the new Alien design (even the legs) in that shot by what looked like prototype Power Loaders on board Romulus Station; I'm pretty sure I caught a glimpse of the skull, too.
Also was that voice at the end teasing David? It definitely seemed like a synthetic; I don't think it was Fassbender but the poetry he was reciting and the way he spoke about the "Perfect Creations" had big David vibes. Could he have transferred to a new body maybe?
Wait you've seen the footage give me the link.
I am honestly looking forward Alien spoiler of any kind 8)
Merry Christmas Everyone!🥳🎊🎄
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 24, 2023, 07:34:54 PMThe new trailer was excellent! The use of the og Goldsmith score got me on board right away. Really dug the new Alien design (even the legs) in that shot by what looked like prototype Power Loaders on board Romulus Station; I'm pretty sure I caught a glimpse of the skull, too.
Also was that voice at the end teasing David? It definitely seemed like a synthetic; I don't think it was Fassbender but the poetry he was reciting and the way he spoke about the "Perfect Creations" had big David vibes. Could he have transferred to a new body maybe?
Wasnt expecting the alien to bust out a fat cigar and talk with the voice of eddie james olmos. I think its name is jeri? Wild things. But in fede alvarez we trust.
I have seen the footage. :-X 8)
Jeri confirmed.
Quote from: skhellter on Dec 24, 2023, 09:33:51 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 24, 2023, 07:34:54 PMThe new trailer was excellent! The use of the og Goldsmith score got me on board right away. Really dug the new Alien design (even the legs) in that shot by what looked like prototype Power Loaders on board Romulus Station; I'm pretty sure I caught a glimpse of the skull, too.
Also was that voice at the end teasing David? It definitely seemed like a synthetic; I don't think it was Fassbender but the poetry he was reciting and the way he spoke about the "Perfect Creations" had big David vibes. Could he have transferred to a new body maybe?
Wasnt expecting the alien to bust out a fat cigar and talk with the voice of eddie james olmos. I think its name is jeri? Wild things. But in fede alvarez we trust.
Must have been Jeri waxing poetic in the end then, not David. I KNEW I recognized that voice!
Unless it's David in a synth Alien body riffing on Jeri without literally adapting Jeri, I guess.
Goddamn... :-[
Anyone got a link to the new trailer?
https://youtu.be/DNFH1N69fvk?si=O7kOYNmX5CVDEu8e
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 24, 2023, 09:57:46 PMQuote from: skhellter on Dec 24, 2023, 09:33:51 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 24, 2023, 07:34:54 PMThe new trailer was excellent! The use of the og Goldsmith score got me on board right away. Really dug the new Alien design (even the legs) in that shot by what looked like prototype Power Loaders on board Romulus Station; I'm pretty sure I caught a glimpse of the skull, too.
Also was that voice at the end teasing David? It definitely seemed like a synthetic; I don't think it was Fassbender but the poetry he was reciting and the way he spoke about the "Perfect Creations" had big David vibes. Could he have transferred to a new body maybe?
Wasnt expecting the alien to bust out a fat cigar and talk with the voice of eddie james olmos. I think its name is jeri? Wild things. But in fede alvarez we trust.
Must have been Jeri waxing poetic in the end then, not David. I KNEW I recognized that voice!
Unless it's David in a synth Alien body riffing on Jeri without literally adapting Jeri, I guess.
David is indisposed to appear in this flick
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A fandom in decline.
Spoiler
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(still
the best single shot imo, sorry Denis)
Quote from: kwisatz on Dec 24, 2023, 11:29:41 PMSpoiler
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(still the best single shot imo, sorry Denis)
Spoiler
Show me Alia Denis, you coward!
I'm just hoping the Engineers have at least one scene in the movie. Them chasing down David would be sick to see. (Also, I'd prefer that they remain humanity's creators, not necessarily the xenomorphs. The Space Jockey species can be their creators).
8)🙏 well, Ridley gave Fede his blessing for this movie so.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 24, 2023, 07:27:26 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Dec 24, 2023, 06:45:56 PMPlease Lord, if you exist, make your presence known to us by blessing us with a teaser of some sorts hahaha
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I don't like it! >:(
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 24, 2023, 07:34:54 PMThe new trailer was excellent!
Are you from Australia?
Still waiting for it to drop over here...
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Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Dec 25, 2023, 10:21:11 AMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 24, 2023, 07:34:54 PMThe new trailer was excellent!
Are you from Australia?
Still waiting for it to drop over here...
https://www.troublefreepool.com/media/mr-bean-waiting-gif.190931/fullStill waiting for it to drop over here...
Indeed :'(👉👈 Where are you Santa?!🙈
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Where my trailer >:(
I knew there wasn't going to be any trailer, but i still ended up being disappointed over the completely random scenario that i fooled and gaslighted myself into believing in the first place.
The lack of Alien news is bound to make us all go mad.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Dec 25, 2023, 03:20:44 PMI knew there wasn't going to be any trailer, but i still ended up being disappointed over the completely random scenario that i fooled and gaslighted myself into believing in the first place.
The lack of Alien news is bound to make us all go mad.
aye, letdown :'(
please dont ban me for asking this:
is fede working alone?
lol
merry xms hy ny
What does that mean?
EDIT
However many hours later, a dim bulb brightens :laugh:
hy ny = happy new year
I've been hearing that we're going to probably get some marketing for this in 2024.
What's all this trailer talk? Was one due to drop soon or has there been a barrage of shit posting leading to false hope?
Quote from: T Dog on Dec 26, 2023, 04:51:57 PMWhat's all this trailer talk? Was one due to drop soon or has there been a barrage of shit posting leading to false hope?
The opposite, actually: false hope that lead to shit posting.
Quote from: T Dog on Dec 26, 2023, 04:51:57 PMWhat's all this trailer talk? Was one due to drop soon or has there been a barrage of shit posting leading to false hope?
It's all Mike's fault. >:(
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Dec 26, 2023, 05:10:43 PMQuote from: T Dog on Dec 26, 2023, 04:51:57 PMWhat's all this trailer talk? Was one due to drop soon or has there been a barrage of shit posting leading to false hope?
It's all Mike's fault. >:(
Whose MIke?
Quote from: T Dog on Dec 26, 2023, 04:51:57 PMWhat's all this trailer talk? Was one due to drop soon or has there been a barrage of shit posting leading to false hope?
Mostly shit posting (i think), but pretty much, i made a comment in regards to how Alien Covenant's first trailer was released on the Christmas before its year of release, so we kind of memed it too hard and ended up gaslighting ourselves that somehow a teaser would be released on the same day.
Quote from: T Dog on Dec 26, 2023, 05:23:46 PMQuote from: The Eighth Passenger on Dec 26, 2023, 05:10:43 PMQuote from: T Dog on Dec 26, 2023, 04:51:57 PMWhat's all this trailer talk? Was one due to drop soon or has there been a barrage of shit posting leading to false hope?
It's all Mike's fault. >:(
Whose MIke?
Hi it's me.
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I've been behind the scenes and have had my eyes on a few things here and there. Maybe seen some of an upcoming movie as well 🤫🤐. Some folks took this knowledge as things are hopefully coming soon, and in tradition to a few movies in the franchise hoping media would drop on Christmas. Both were not true, and I've stated for a while now marketing won't kick in for a few more months.
There was some fun in the shit posting though!
But rest assured, in a few months this quiet we have will be a long distant memory as we will be swimming in ALIEN marketing very soon.
Yeah but several of you can (and should imo genuinely) dump the Neill Blomkamp cancelled crap, so the fandom can collectively bury it and move on with Fede Alvarez's Romulus and Noah Hawley's Alien.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Dec 26, 2023, 07:49:43 PMMaybe seen some of an upcoming movie as well 🤫🤐.
Don't say that, Mike.
Don't tease us like that.
The rest of we, frail mortals, are not capable of acting rationally after reading those words.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 26, 2023, 04:42:38 PMI've been hearing that we're going to probably get some marketing for this in 2024.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Dec 26, 2023, 07:49:43 PMBut rest assured, in a few months this quiet we have will be a long distant memory as we will be swimming in ALIEN marketing very soon.
Called it. I should go play the lottery.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 26, 2023, 08:18:02 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 26, 2023, 04:42:38 PMI've been hearing that we're going to probably get some marketing for this in 2024.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Dec 26, 2023, 07:49:43 PMBut rest assured, in a few months this quiet we have will be a long distant memory as we will be swimming in ALIEN marketing very soon.
Called it. I should go play the lottery.
They put you in a nightmarish asylum because they feared your truth.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Dec 26, 2023, 08:10:41 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Dec 26, 2023, 07:49:43 PMMaybe seen some of an upcoming movie as well 🤫🤐.
Don't say that, Mike.
Don't tease us like that.
The rest of we, frail mortals, are not capable of acting rationally after reading those words.
One day I'll spill all the beans on how I got to this point. 😎
Maybe I'll spill the spoiled Blomkamp beans too. Gotta talk to a few folks on that front before I can share anything.
blompkamp stuff would be much appreciated.
Ideally would be great to bring in someone who worked on it to talk about it on a podcast.
(like how it happened with the AVP Annihilation anime)
Give it the full rundown on production / the story / more concept art release.
I am a patient duckling myself :) I can wait a few months. I'm really excited about Romulus. I can almost smell a Prey-like success. 8)
I can smell a Feral-like alteration to the design that will upset people.
Designing the Predator's face (especially jaws) is rocket science. I don't think we should worry about the Alien. :)
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 26, 2023, 11:53:52 PMI can smell a Feral-like alteration to the design that will upset people.
The Xenomorphs technology will be attached to its limbs without straps is my guess.
Remember when we all thought the TV show aliens might have titties for a few minutes? (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=65409.0)
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 26, 2023, 11:53:52 PMI can smell a Feral-like alteration to the design that will upset people.
four arms, i'm betting...
no tiddies, tho.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Dec 26, 2023, 10:23:38 PMMaybe I'll spill the spoiled Blomkamp beans too. Gotta talk to a few folks on that front before I can share anything.
🙏
Quote from: skhellter on Dec 27, 2023, 12:58:38 AMQuote from: Local Trouble on Dec 26, 2023, 11:53:52 PMI can smell a Feral-like alteration to the design that will upset people.
four arms, i'm betting...
no tiddies, tho.
Nah, that was the Blompkamp Xeno. They're not doing that with this one.
6 arms then. Got it.
Trailer soon?
No. Months.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Dec 26, 2023, 10:23:38 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Dec 26, 2023, 08:10:41 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Dec 26, 2023, 07:49:43 PMMaybe seen some of an upcoming movie as well 🤫🤐.
Don't say that, Mike.
Don't tease us like that.
The rest of we, frail mortals, are not capable of acting rationally after reading those words.
One day I'll spill all the beans on how I got to this point. 😎
Maybe I'll spill the spoiled Blomkamp beans too. Gotta talk to a few folks on that front before I can share anything.
That would be wonderful. Ive no hate for Blomkamp though I believe people when they say we dodged a bullet. I'm just always fascinated to see any filmmaker's take on this franchise.
It could be the Mandela effect but I seem to remember that one of the Alien designs from Neil Blomkamp's project had extra limbs🙃🙏
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Dec 27, 2023, 05:57:32 PMIt could be the Mandela effect but I seem to remember that one of the Alien designs from Neil Blomkamp's project had extra limbs🙃🙏
I think you're bang on there, from memory.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Dec 27, 2023, 05:57:32 PMIt could be the Mandela effect but I seem to remember that one of the Alien designs from Neil Blomkamp's project had extra limbs🙃🙏
You're correct. There are photos of it out there. Neil gifted one to Joe Rogan. I've photographed it, but was told not to share to potentially upset relationships with Blomkamp and the studios (Also why I haven't spilled the details on the film). Even though he's posted photos himself.
AvPGalaxy even wrote an article. Maybe one day I'll be able to share my photos of it.
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2022/01/08/podcaster-joe-rogan-shows-studioadi-alien-5-maquette-in-studio/amp/
The last comment Neill made about his movie was "i couldnt care less what happens to alien."
I dont think his relationship with fox/disney can be damaged any further.
And after he'd made those comments I immediately messaged my contacts and asked if I could share, who then said not to. It's not so black and white, unfortunately.
There was a time where a Neil Blomkamp Alien movie was on the top of my priority list, but after all these years, i couldn't give 2 shits about it.
Why?
Well, because all this talk of retconning/replacing Alien 3 started to make me mad lol, not to mention how fan-serveicy the concept art of Neil's Alien was.
It felt like a "Remember" check box but with a Neil Blomkamp aesthetic on top of it.
Also, District 9 was great, Elysium was good but after that, turd after turd.
Haven't watched Gran Turismo yet, and to be frank, i'm starting to get scared for District 10.
One reason why they have to retcon, or generally reboot the franchise, is because the time it took to come up with the prequels was too long, such that those expected to watch them likely didn't know about or had never seen the earlier movies due to their youth.
Another reason is that they've run out of ideas, so they have to bring back characters or formulae that worked in the past, and that's done in various genres and franchises, e.g., thieves encountering aliens, like thieves encountering zombies, etc.
Any ideas for how this will happen?
Personally, i have two ideas:
1 - The Romulus space station that our new batch of characters (young adults) will board, had previosuly made contact with the Covenant ship and brought something back with them.
2 - Some exposition made by an android from the Romulus that is supervising the outbreak/chaos of the Xeno infestation, clarifying that The Company is setting traps for its employees all over the known cosmos, in hopes of attaining more research intel on the Xenos.
The Covenant ship could be briefly mentioned as one of those traps, even though it's more of a David one.
2 would be insanely goofy. This isnt resident evil.
Quote from: skhellter on Dec 31, 2023, 12:51:11 PM2 would be insanely goofy. This isnt resident evil.
True, but everything depends on the execution and thankfully, i am not the one writing the movie and working on it for monmths/years, i simply made a quick theory on the spot in order to spark some discussion.
On paper, Cameron's Aliens had everything to be goofy, but it delievered, not to mention that we have one man sacrifice an entire colony of 156 people, so it's not that far-fetched for the company to operate on an ever bigger scale.
Yeah I do not like the idea of that at all friend, plus I think direct continuity can be exciting, especially when we only get a film every seven years.
'Alien Trilogy.' Wattaburn. Love it. :P
I hope that terminology becomes commonplace with Alien.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Dec 31, 2023, 01:12:08 PMI hope that terminology becomes commonplace with Alien.
It is for me.
The Alien has to come from the Covenant, or perhaps a lifeboat from the Covenant. Breaking down things logically, it has to be the only way unless they riff the Nostromo flight recorder plot point from Isolation and return to LV-426.
Given the timeline placement, randomly encountering the creatures from any other source would seem a little meh IMO.
I assume there will also be plenty of name drops. References to the missing Prometheus and Covenant missions, the missing Nostromo etc.
Do we have any indication of when this takes place between the first two films? Is it a few years after Alien, or 50?
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Dec 31, 2023, 02:13:04 PMThe Alien has to come from the Covenant, or perhaps a lifeboat from the Covenant.
No.
QuoteGiven the timeline placement, randomly encountering the creatures from any other source would seem a little meh IMO.
Also no.
There was at least one lifeboat ship that escaped Sevastopol...
i wonder...
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Dec 31, 2023, 01:12:08 PMI hope that terminology becomes commonplace with Alien.
Indeed. Alien Resurrection feels more like a live-action Dark Horse comic book than an extension of the original trilogy. It's also set so far in the future that the movie is its own thing, rather than a 'part 4'.
Additionals are nice, but The 'Alien Trilogy' will always be god-tier canon in my view.
I have (hopefully not misplaced) hopes that Fede's movie will evoke the feel of the original trilogy, though the fact it's including the prequels (as much as I love them as their own thing) means i can't see it making that tier.
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Dec 31, 2023, 02:16:13 PMQuote from: TheBATMAN on Dec 31, 2023, 02:13:04 PMThe Alien has to come from the Covenant, or perhaps a lifeboat from the Covenant.
No.
QuoteGiven the timeline placement, randomly encountering the creatures from any other source would seem a little meh IMO.
Also no.
Why not?
I take Alien Rez as a standalone, a parody even. Too much in it doesn't feel like it fits with the rest of the series in my opinion.
Resurrection is very much like a dark horse comic.
it being comedic on purpose doesn't mean that it's a parody, no.
No, but I take it as a parody. More enjoyable for myself. :laugh:
That Perfect Organism post has me curious, because I'm not sure where it's connecting to the prequels. It's felt like it's own thing, and not so much acknowledging the prequels. Definitely more of the vibe of Alien and Aliens. I haven't come across the connections. I expect they'll do a very light acknowledgement like a name drop of the Prometheus or Covenant. But I'm not expecting David, black goo or engineer stuff. Just a solid Alien story that doesn't get too lost in tying it all together with the prequels. Perfect Organism certainly wants the clicks.
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Dec 31, 2023, 02:52:23 PMQuote from: PAS Spinelli on Dec 31, 2023, 02:16:13 PMQuote from: TheBATMAN on Dec 31, 2023, 02:13:04 PMThe Alien has to come from the Covenant, or perhaps a lifeboat from the Covenant.
No.
QuoteGiven the timeline placement, randomly encountering the creatures from any other source would seem a little meh IMO.
Also no.
Why not?
Not everything has to be interconnected.
The prequels were fairly well made as films, at least visualy and I would like to see Ridley Scott given the chance to finish what he started. But some fans, me included, thinks the prequels takes away from what the alien is. Humans created David, david creates Alien. It means the species is not only artificial, but not really truly alien either as its origins go back to humans, even if by proxy. And also the "species" is then only 20 odd years give or take by the time of Alien.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Dec 31, 2023, 06:42:48 PMI expect they'll do a very light acknowledgement like a name drop of the Prometheus or Covenant.
Yeah, that is most likely what is going to happen.
But it's also interesting that this movie was only possible due to Ridley Scott's permission, after years of it being initially pitched (kind of like Noah Hawley's FX series).
We know that Fede pitched the plot to him a few years ago, but only recently did Ridley Scott gave him the heads up in order to proceed with the movie, so maybe there were some behind the scenes "deals".
Something like this, "I let you do your movie, but if you have to put X and Y".
I think it's more that he just likes Fede's idea. Ridley isn't as hands on with the story, just more producing.
Wait so Scott has the rights at the moment? I thought fox did. Or do you mean that he at least has some creative input etc?
Quote from: The Cruentus on Dec 31, 2023, 06:47:17 PMHumans created David, david creates Alien. It means the species is not only artificial
I like Promtheus and Covenant (and i agree with the criticisms of those movies) as standalones, and i truly think that there are some interesting ideas there, but as far as how they are connected to the original Alien (1979) movie, they left a lot to be desired.
But part of me thinks that Ridley scott wanted to tell his own original story about cycles of creation, but then had the studio force him to connect it to Alien in order to get more seats on the theater.
Also, personally, i always saw the Xeno as artficial, simply not a byproduct of humanity and its androids, but as something made by the Space Jockeys, which can also represent the theme of cosmic horror.
Perhaps there was a proto-Xeno species that existed and became exctinct, but then the Space Jockeys tried to recreate them as their own bioweapon for their own "alien motivations".
Maybe they worshipped these proto-xenos.
For me, the Xenos being an abomination that shouldn't exist is far more terrifying than them being something natural, not only that, but if they are natural, then it's a hell of a coincidence that their methods of reproduction (facehugger) easily adapt to human anatomy.
Their biomechanical nature also seemed to perfect and "fabricated", like their Juggernaut/derelict ships, instead of it simply being natural.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Dec 31, 2023, 07:31:32 PMI think it's more that he just likes Fede's idea. Ridley isn't as hands on with the story, just more producing.
Gotcha.
I didn't know about that.
But still, it's fun to speculate, especially because Covenant was a box office bomb and kind of sent the franchise into cryo again, so Romulus being the movie to wake it up again is certainly a promising outlook.
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Dec 31, 2023, 06:46:47 PMQuote from: TheBATMAN on Dec 31, 2023, 02:52:23 PMQuote from: PAS Spinelli on Dec 31, 2023, 02:16:13 PMQuote from: TheBATMAN on Dec 31, 2023, 02:13:04 PMThe Alien has to come from the Covenant, or perhaps a lifeboat from the Covenant.
No.
QuoteGiven the timeline placement, randomly encountering the creatures from any other source would seem a little meh IMO.
Also no.
Why not?
Not everything has to be interconnected.
It doesnt. But it's a logical way for a new party to find the Alien and it serves as a small bookend to the prequel trilogy without leaving it permanently unfinished.
The film can still tell its own story.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Dec 31, 2023, 07:35:23 PMQuote from: The Cruentus on Dec 31, 2023, 06:47:17 PMHumans created David, david creates Alien. It means the species is not only artificial
I like Promtheus and Covenant (and i agree with the criticisms of those movies) as standalones, and i truly think that there are some interesting ideas there, but as far as how they are connected to the original Alien (1979) movie, they left a lot to be desired.
But part of me thinks that Ridley scott wanted to tell his own original story about cycles of creation, but then had the studio force him to connect it to Alien in order to get more seats on the theater.
Also, personally, i always saw the Xeno as artficial, simply not a byproduct of humanity and its androids, but as something made by the Space Jockeys, which can also represent the theme of cosmic horror.
Perhaps there was a proto-Xeno species that existed and became exctinct, but then the Space Jockeys tried to recreate them as their own bioweapon for their own "alien motivations".
Maybe they worshipped these proto-xenos.
For me, the Xenos being an abomination that shouldn't exist is far more terrifying than them being something natural, not only that, but if they are natural, then it's a hell of a coincidence that their methods of reproduction (facehugger) easily adapt to human anatomy.
Their biomechanical nature also seemed to perfect and "fabricated", like their Juggernaut/derelict ships, instead of it simply being natural.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Dec 31, 2023, 07:31:32 PMI think it's more that he just likes Fede's idea. Ridley isn't as hands on with the story, just more producing.
Gotcha.
I didn't know about that.
But still, it's fun to speculate, especially because Covenant was a box office bomb and kind of sent the franchise into cryo again, so Romulus being the movie to wake it up again is certainly a promising outlook.
Like I said, they are indeed well made movies, visuals are great. Its just what they did with the alien lore is what I disagree with. If it turned out David only merely replicated something that already existed, that would make it somewhat better. Unfortuantely Ridley did indeed make it clear that David is their origin.
Quote from: The Cruentus on Dec 31, 2023, 07:53:17 PMUnfortuantely Ridley did indeed make it clear that David is their origin.
Ridley needs to take his medicine then, with all due respect.
The murals in Prometheus and Covenant deleted media always made it seem as if the Xenos were something that predated David, so i will go with that.
Maybe, the guy is in his 80s I think, not everyone ages well unfortunately, and he didn't have addition crew members to balance him out like in the first movie. Such as Dan O'Bannon.
QuoteBut it's also interesting that this movie was only possible due to Ridley Scott's permission, after years of it being initially pitched (kind of like Noah Hawley's FX series).
We know that Fede pitched the plot to him a few years ago, but only recently did Ridley Scott gave him the heads up in order to proceed with the movie, so maybe there were some behind the scenes "deals".
Where did you read this? As far as I'm aware the rights are still with 20th/Disney.
Also, Scott Free co-produces but doesn't fund or greenlight the movies.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jan 01, 2024, 02:46:53 PMQuoteBut it's also interesting that this movie was only possible due to Ridley Scott's permission, after years of it being initially pitched (kind of like Noah Hawley's FX series).
We know that Fede pitched the plot to him a few years ago, but only recently did Ridley Scott gave him the heads up in order to proceed with the movie, so maybe there were some behind the scenes "deals".
Where did you read this? As far as I'm aware the rights are still with 20th/Disney.
Also, Scott Free co-produces but doesn't fund or greenlight the movies.
Hi.
That first article regarding Fede Alvarez making a new Alien movie, kind of implied that it was only possible because Ridley Scott called him (years after first hearing about his pitch) and gave him the good to go.
That is kind of what i meant, but obviously, any official behind the scenes deal is beyond my reach.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Jan 01, 2024, 10:06:01 PMHi.
That first article regarding Fede Alvarez making a new Alien movie, kind of implied that it was only possible because Ridley Scott called him (years after first hearing about his pitch) and gave him the good to go.
That is kind of what i meant, but obviously, any official behind the scenes deal is beyond my reach.
Didn't he pitch it directly to Ridley and then Ridley/Scott Free decided to pitch it to 20th Century Studios?
A lot of people blamed (while other praised) Scott for scuttling Blomkamp's Alien film, but ultimately the decision was 20th Century studios call. He might have influenced the decision makers there but he doesn't own the rights to the Alien franchise.
He's more of a consultant and a marketable brand name.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jan 02, 2024, 07:44:03 AMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Jan 01, 2024, 10:06:01 PMHi.
That first article regarding Fede Alvarez making a new Alien movie, kind of implied that it was only possible because Ridley Scott called him (years after first hearing about his pitch) and gave him the good to go.
That is kind of what i meant, but obviously, any official behind the scenes deal is beyond my reach.
Didn't he pitch it directly to Ridley and then Ridley/Scott Free decided to pitch it to 20th Century Studios?
A lot of people blamed (while other praised) Scott for scuttling Blomkamp's Alien film, but ultimately the decision was 20th Century studios call. He might have influenced the decision makers there but he doesn't own the rights to the Alien franchise.
He's more of a consultant and a marketable brand name.
Maybe that is what it was, but to me, the article implied that Ridley Scott had a role in the existence of the movie.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Jan 02, 2024, 10:03:19 AMMaybe that is what it was, but to me, the article implied that Ridley Scott had a role in the existence of the movie.
I think he probably liked the pitch and then tried to persuade 20th to go for it. He's quite a powerful and persuasive producer. So yeah, I think one can say he did indeed have a role in getting the movie made, just not in quite the way your original wording implied.
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Dec 31, 2023, 02:16:13 PMQuote from: TheBATMAN on Dec 31, 2023, 02:13:04 PMThe Alien has to come from the Covenant, or perhaps a lifeboat from the Covenant.
No.
QuoteGiven the timeline placement, randomly encountering the creatures from any other source would seem a little meh IMO.
Also no.
Correct. If we're going to have meh developments, let them sit at Covenant's table, not Alien.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 04, 2022, 10:16:09 PMEvil Dead remake is fun for what it is. Don't Breathe was atrocious.
Don't like the sound of this at all. Ridley Scott is RIGHT there with an unfinished story yet to tell, but even barring him directing, there has to be a more intetesting filmmaker to get to tackle a new Alien movie... :-\
Not thrilled with how Disney is handling this acquisition in the slightest. And bye bye theatrical releases, everything is just streaming content now. Gotta churn it all out!
Feels nice doing a bit of a 180 over the couple years its been since my initial bitter post on this subject. :)