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Title: Possible influence for the original Alien movie
Post by: Glock 17 on Jan 18, 2007, 03:14:35 AM

There was a 1958 film that was a possible influence upon the first Alien film. The film was called IT! The Terror From Beyond Space and it was directed by a guy called Edward L. Kahn. The plot was basically the same-a creature who stowed aboard a ship to another planet, who then kills the crew off one by one while the ship's commander has to explain why it happened. (keep in mind Ripley's inquest by a jury of her peers at the beginning of Alien 2) Anyhow, while the monster isn't as spectacular, this little B-movie has been said by some critics to have been an inspiration for the original Alien film. See it and I think some of you might agree. Good stuff.
Title: Re: Possible influence for the original Alien movie
Post by: maledoro on Jan 18, 2007, 04:14:07 AM
Yes, it's been cited as an influence on Alien.
Title: Re: Possible influence for the original Alien movie
Post by: ShadowPred on Jan 20, 2007, 04:19:00 AM
I remember hearing about this movie, but i never knew that it might have been a possible influence for Alien.
Title: Re: Possible influence for the original Alien movie
Post by: SiL on Jan 20, 2007, 05:28:01 AM
Oh, my yes.

It's like the half-retarded poor man's version of Alien. Highly enjoyable schlock.
Title: Re: Possible influence for the original Alien movie
Post by: ArchangeL on Jan 22, 2007, 10:43:48 PM

Sounds like a great movie, with a title like that.

Reminds me of the epic masterpiece - The Adventures Of Sharkboy and Lavagirl in 3D.
Title: Re: Possible influence for the original Alien movie
Post by: Glock 17 on Jan 23, 2007, 04:17:43 AM

Just a slight off topic word on the director. Edward L. Kahn also directed 2 films that were an influence on Romero's Night Of The Living Dead/. That film was the 1958 classic Invisible Invaders.  If any of you have seen this one the influence is apparent.  The second one was called Creature With The Atom Brain. See em' and you'll see what I mean :)
Title: Re: Possible influence for the original Alien movie
Post by: Uncanny Antman on Feb 13, 2007, 08:04:29 AM
Way back when Starlog was the internet, they mentioned IT! in an Alien article, and I, of course, quickly sought it out.

Yes, I was fairly disappointed.  No surprise there.

Had much more fun with another psuedo-Alien influence, Dark Star

Title: Re: Possible influence for the original Alien movie
Post by: shakermakerman on Feb 26, 2007, 12:58:21 AM
ill have to watch that sounds cool
Title: Re: Possible influence for the original Alien movie
Post by: Hankerson on Feb 26, 2007, 01:08:05 AM
Well, since Dan O'Bannon made "Dark Star", and even said that he had originally started writing "Alien" as a serious remake of the comedy "Dark Star", one should only hope that "Dark Star" reminds you of "Alien".
Title: Re: Possible influence for the original Alien movie
Post by: Newsfop on Feb 26, 2007, 04:06:23 AM
I remember seeing that in the Alien Legacy documentary. It was a combination of minds using inspiration to develop something that will endure for years.
Title: Re: Possible influence for the original Alien movie
Post by: Hangman on Feb 26, 2007, 04:55:52 PM
Alien pulls from quite a few different films that fall within the "Dark House" formula.  IT! The Terror From  Beyond Space (Fox almost got sued for plagiarism due to similarities in the stories), The Thing, Planet of Vampires, The Thing From Another World, Texas Chainsaw Massacre (though this was more of a directorial influence for dealing with horror).  There is even a claim that another influence for the film was a story by Agatha Christie.

Look at nearly any Dark House style film (Sci-Fi or otherwise) from the 1950's through the 1960's and you're likely to find elements that seem strikingly similar to ALIEN.

ALIEN was not an original story, it actually adheres to it's parent formula quite closely, but what makes it stand out was it's treatment of the characters, its presentation of the film's environment, its quality of script, and the quality of production. If any of these had been sub-par ALIEN would most likely have been regarded as a B-Movie, and overlooked about as quickly as say "Saturn 3."
Title: Re: Possible influence for the original Alien movie
Post by: SiL on Feb 26, 2007, 08:24:53 PM
Quote from: Hangman on Feb 26, 2007, 04:55:52 PM
The Thing,

I know Alien's awesome, but not so much so that it can take elements from a movie made three years later ;)

QuoteIf any of these had been sub-par ALIEN would most likely have been regarded as a B-Movie, and overlooked about as quickly as say "Saturn 3."

It was originall meant as a Roger Corman movie. How about that ...