There has always been a clear shot of the unmasked predator faces in other movies, but this movie always cuts away quick instead of giving us a good look at his face. The BTS scenes with the unmasked predator face was cool, wonder why they wanted to cut away so quick and instead added CGI replacements.
It needed a shot something like this where you can marvel at the artistry of the people involved bringing it to life.
(https://monsterlegacy.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/predator_9yyj82.jpg?w=1400&h=)
We did get a clear shot of him unmasked in the Taabe fight but yeah, I think the intention was to keep it as hidden as possible. I don't think any Predator design is going to compare to the original really but I get it, that it's a primitive Predator so it would look quite different.
Quote from: Darkness on Aug 22, 2022, 03:04:52 PMWe did get a clear shot of him unmasked in the Taabe fight but yeah, I think the intention was to keep it as hidden as possible. I don't think any Predator design is going to compare to the original really but I get it, that it's a primitive Predator so it would look quite different.
A dynamic shot, not a second of rest in the reveal or the final confrontation really. During my commute today I realised that's my biggest issue with the film really.
The prey predator is too advanced, they didn't evolve in the 200 years till Predator in fact their technology got worse. The net weapon was a lot stronger, the cloaking device was a lot better, everything else seemed the same bar missing the plasma caster
Good otherwise we would have gotten that line "you're one ugly muthaf**ka"
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He looks so Flintstones on that shot 😲
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I don't know if its just me but this shot was not frightening like the original. Its lacking the menacing look. He's looking more bird like almost like a Parrot with a beak in front, the eyes are just too high and wide apart. Had they used the practical head with just minor CGI would've been much better.
Prey is a good movie by it self, the predator didn't need a major redesign and justification that he's from a different hemisphere of the planet. The premise here is he needs to hunt don't matter where he comes from. Stan Winston already established a brilliant design template, I don't understand why filmmakers take things too far off in design that it ends up looking disproportionate. So many fans/artists have done such great concept art of what the predator design variations could be but it all goes under the radar.
The wide set eyes make him look more like, we'll, prey than predator.
This film proved to me no matter the circumstances or mandate ADI just can not or will not do a classic Predator, Scar looked off, Wolf looked off, the Fugitive looked off, and this despite being even more far removed also looks completely off.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 25, 2022, 11:46:16 AMThis film proved to me no matter the circumstances or mandate ADI just can not or will not do a classic Predator, Scar looked off, Wolf looked off, the Fugitive looked off, and this despite being even more far removed also looks completely off.
The beauty of the Stan Winston classic Predator design is that everything just tied in together so well and so balanced and proportionate, nothing was off and felt like a living creature. It didn't also have that bobble head effect either that other designs soon followed after. It baffles me that they pulled this off way back in the 80's on a tight schedule and with so much advancement in servo motors etc. now they can't replicate that same magic.
Miss the days when Dark Horse gave us predators like they were straight from the original movie
(https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/darkhorse/images/b/bb/Predator_Big_Game_Vol_1_4.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20091206111949)
I'm curious if Marvel will try to draw a Feral predator
Unfortunately, probably. The expanded universe tends to stick to the current look.
Same footage as before, although it is still neat to see it.
Looks like that predator has a genetic defect, possibly down syndrome
Quote from: DeYanko on Aug 28, 2022, 06:34:08 PMLooks like that predator has a genetic defect, possibly down syndrome
do ONE more post like this and you're getting a ban rocket. Consider this your only warning
Quote from: Omegamorph on Aug 29, 2022, 09:46:57 PMQuote from: DeYanko on Aug 28, 2022, 06:34:08 PMLooks like that predator has a genetic defect, possibly down syndrome
do ONE more post like this and you're getting a ban rocket. Consider this your only warning
He's not wrong, I'd say more like fetal alcohol syndrome.
I do not think the moderators appreciate that.
Guys do have some merit though. Hipertelorism doesn't help this Predator and makes face look defected. Trust me, I'm a doctor.
Yes, because human medicine totally applies to Predators
It's comparison made by obsertavion. They do have two legs, two arms, spine, skull and brain inside it. Many human characteristics apply to Predator, it isn't so farfetched another also can be similar.
Right, please enjoy a weeks break from the boards. I will not tolerate that kind of comparison.
Ok. I'll refrain form the subject.
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I just don't understand why it's so touchy subject. In my line of work we talk about such things on daily basis. It's not fanbase fault what desing was approved and that it evokes such connotations .
There, It's out of my chest. Now I'll take consequences.
The problem is people are throwing people with conditions under a bus to whine about a f**king fictional monster, is what. It's f**king trash.
People who are "Hur hur Preds hunt for autism now" make me cringe so hard
Enough with it now folk. SiL summed it up perfectly. Bob's had a ban. The point was made by staff. Let's move on.
And deleted. I believe I said to move on. Let's not test my patience for it, please. :)
Duly noted.
And deleted. That's my fault. I didn't actually click the button when I meant to issue the temp ban previously. Please enjoy a 7 day respite from sharing your opinions here. Please note when the admins make a direction. :)
Me, whenever I log into the forum:
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I know Alec and Michael Vincent have posted about their thought process with designing the look Feral Predator... like favoring a larger stronger jaw.
There are some good still shots from the final battle, but they are dark. Other than that we got the bts pics/videos and the famous turn-around shot when he gets his bio whacked off.
Quote from: Kradan on Sep 06, 2022, 09:10:22 AMPeople who are "Hur hur Preds hunt for autism now" make me cringe so hard
To be completely fair there it was
The Predator itself that made that allusion, along with a dozen other really stupid "creative" choices which make the film nigh unwatchable as far as I'm concerned. Doubly frustrating given all the potential The Predator had. There might be something to that, but I don't think its ever been put quite into the X-men-esque terms that The Predator did. It reminded me of Doom with its "extra chromosome super powers" idea. Whether the idea is offensive or not aside, its just poor writing at the end of the day.
Within the context of the film the Feral Predator is really growing on me. The face design is not that great, but it looks far more convincing to me than Scar, Wolf, or Mr. Black ever did. What can I say? SWS and Stan The Man knew how to make this stuff look really good. One of the reasons for this might actually be one that was alluded to earlier in the thread... Technology has gotten "better." Smaller, more efficient servos, new materials to caste out of. Some of this likely plays a part in why the faces end up not looking "good." It's always bothered me that both ADI and KNB couldn't seem to get the mandibles on the classic-leaning designs to close properly. ADI has always seemed to struggle with the painted texture of the Predator's as well. Scar looked very flat and rubbery. Wolf was masked by shadow and rain, and Fugitive just looked big headed, goofy, and very flat. What really irks me is we know a lot of the sketches, and the original designers, are still around. They did that big reunion where they talked about making Jungle Hunter. There's no reason we can't get a proper OG Predator.
I want to be clear though, I'm not against the idea of having different Predator sub species. Maybe, unlike here on Earth, the other proto-Predator species continued to evolve and they all mingled together over tens of thousands of years. Maybe they all congregate into large homogenous populations in different climates. I'm not against any of that.
Feral actually reminds me, a bit, of one of the "Hish" drawings I saw a long time ago. Maybe he's a Hish?
The pre
Quote from: OpenMaw on Sep 15, 2022, 04:39:33 AMQuote from: Kradan on Sep 06, 2022, 09:10:22 AMPeople who are "Hur hur Preds hunt for autism now" make me cringe so hard
To be completely fair there it was The Predator itself that made that allusion, along with a dozen other really stupid "creative" choices which make the film nigh unwatchable as far as I'm concerned. Doubly frustrating given all the potential The Predator had. There might be something to that, but I don't think its ever been put quite into the X-men-esque terms that The Predator did. It reminded me of Doom with its "extra chromosome super powers" idea. Whether the idea is offensive or not aside, its just poor writing at the end of the day.
Within the context of the film the Feral Predator is really growing on me. The face design is not that great, but it looks far more convincing to me than Scar, Wolf, or Mr. Black ever did. What can I say? SWS and Stan The Man knew how to make this stuff look really good. One of the reasons for this might actually be one that was alluded to earlier in the thread... Technology has gotten "better." Smaller, more efficient servos, new materials to caste out of. Some of this likely plays a part in why the faces end up not looking "good." It's always bothered me that both ADI and KNB couldn't seem to get the mandibles on the classic-leaning designs to close properly. ADI has always seemed to struggle with the painted texture of the Predator's as well. Scar looked very flat and rubbery. Wolf was masked by shadow and rain, and Fugitive just looked big headed, goofy, and very flat. What really irks me is we know a lot of the sketches, and the original designers, are still around. They did that big reunion where they talked about making Jungle Hunter. There's no reason we can't get a proper OG Predator.
I want to be clear though, I'm not against the idea of having different Predator sub species. Maybe, unlike here on Earth, the other proto-Predator species continued to evolve and they all mingled together over tens of thousands of years. Maybe they all congregate into large homogenous populations in different climates. I'm not against any of that.
Feral actually reminds me, a bit, of one of the "Hish" drawings I saw a long time ago. Maybe he's a Hish?
with predator subspecies idea I dont see why they cant all be the same species, a pug and a great Dane are the same species I think a wolf is genetically the same same aswell. The difference between Jungle hunter and Feral is no more diffent then a 5' tall redheaded Irishman and some 7 foot tall african guy. But inthink they should keep them similar looking if there in there in same tribe or we get the son of one or something.
Well, the differences between Feral and JH are far more than the differences in height/skin tone. The entire head structure is different. This remains true with the Supah Prettadahs.
Also lets not forget that a lot of the dog subspecies that exist today, exist specifically because human beings mingled different breeds on purpose. We made them, effectively.
I don't know. I'm a sucker for the idea of Predator Cromagnan, Predator Neanderthal, Predator Modern all just being different species on the same rough branch that mingle and share some culture. Just as background fluff.
I really like the idea of having a
different looking predator from both a a creative perspective (as an artist myself) and from a make it stand out from other films perspective. Pretty tired of the studio mandated or director mandated original predator copies. It's cool to think that there are different 'species' with district features and hunting preferences.
As an realistic example... since lizards are may jam... The iguana family is incredibly diverse...
Click on cut to see some iguanid diversity!Spoiler
Northern Desert Iguana
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Fiji Banded Iguana
(https://sdzwildlifeexplorers.org/sites/default/files/2017-07/unique_fiji-head-bob.jpg)
Rhino Iguana
(https://www.animalspot.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Rhino-Iguana.jpg)
Bahamian Rock Iguana
(https://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large-5/bahamian-rock-iguana-carleton-ray.jpg)
Marine Iguana
(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/976xn/p04dg9p0.jpg)
Anyway, kinda cool to see none the less.
Donkeys and horses can mate to produce mules. I wonder if Feral-like Preds can do the same thing with JH-like Preds. Or maybe Feral is already that 🤔
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Sep 16, 2022, 10:30:39 PMDonkeys and horses can mate to produce mules. I wonder if Feral-like Preds can do the same thing with JH-like Preds. Or maybe Feral is already that 🤔
Feral came from a super and a regular maybe? I can see some of both in it.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Sep 16, 2022, 10:11:39 PMWell, the differences between Feral and JH are far more than the differences in height/skin tone. The entire head structure is different. This remains true with the Supah Prettadahs.
Also lets not forget that a lot of the dog subspecies that exist today, exist specifically because human beings mingled different breeds on purpose. We made them, effectively.
I don't know. I'm a sucker for the idea of Predator Cromagnan, Predator Neanderthal, Predator Modern all just being different species on the same rough branch that mingle and share some culture. Just as background fluff.
we created the dogs we have today but it's possible under the right conditions some could have naturally evolved that way since there was no genetic modification or anything. Its possible that the predators look that way through selective breeding. They aren't completely differnt, they have the same number of limbs and eyes and though some are different in shape and tooth number they all have four mandibles. Just look at the differns between the Male and female in some fish species.