IGN have just uploaded a new trailer for Aliens Colonial Marines. It starts off with Cpl Dwayne Hicks sending a transmission about LV-426 and the Captain explaining the mission to a group of marines.
You’ll also spot Bishop in the middle of the trailer.
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Ok this was awesome. Hicks! Bishop! Besides those characters the trailer showed that the game might have a really interesting story. This trailer makes me feel a lot better about the game. It was so cool.
Looks GREAT!!!!
Looking good!
I'm ready! Give it to me!
im the only one who thinks the gfx get worse every time a new trailer releases?
on the other hand i love this trailer cool to see Hicks! i cant wait for this Game!
Really nice trailer! but wait is that Hicks in 1:10 ? sure looks like him :D
oh my god.. i don't believe it..
it looks like Hicks is going to be alive and well in this story.
suggesting the company.. weyland yu-tani, boarded the sulaco and sabotaged it with the egg/aliens from LV-426. and whoever died with ripley as 'Hicks' was someone else.
at around 01:10, you see a man who's been masked with a bag over his face. this, i am sure is Hicks, its the same t shirt as what hicks is wearing in his video blog. and its also looking like the same arm bandage.
so the story will be based around some severe corruption going on in the company.. a nice shocking novelty, certainly matches up to the corruption we have found in the series.
i saw some very negative comments on IGN about voice acting and what not,i thought everything seemed fine. ?
they are Hardcore CoD Halo fanboys everything else sucks you know :-)
but this Hicks is alive stuff make me a sad panda :'( on the other side im realy interested to see how they pull that off
Eh...
Wasn't really planning to play this for the story, anyways.
We'll see. Might turn out good.
Quote from: AMC_Duke on Dec 26, 2012, 10:10:27 AM
they are Hardcore CoD Halo fanboys everything else sucks you know :-)
but this Hicks is alive stuff make me a sad panda :'( on the other side im realy interested to see how they pull that off
im pretty certain that what this means for the story is:
weyland corporation sabotaged the sulaco while hicks, ripley and newt were in stassis. this will finally put to bed the 'plot hole' of alien 3's mystery egg. it can also put to bed any notion of a 'super face hugger' potentially. it might mean one hugger got to ripley and a 2nd one came on the EEV unit.
but since it appears that Hicks could very well be alive, it means weyland kept hicks alive, and put some other guy alongside bishop, newt and ripley in the EEV unit, and had him killed or disfigured before the crash.
weyland then took the sulaco to Furina 161 (whatverr the planet was called) staged the 'crash' and rerouted the sulaco back to LV-426. began its re-work on the planet again to study the alien ship. picked up ripley a week or so later back at furina.
weeks later, a battalion of the marine core is sent back to LV-426, in a bid by the company i assume, to create some more xenos maybe?
im sure im wrong here or there, but im sure that for the most part, that will be the story.
Why is Hicks pre-emptively stating he's KIA?
Quote from: Esoteric_Voyage on Dec 26, 2012, 10:21:34 AM
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im pretty certain that what this means for the story is:
weyland corporation sabotaged the sulaco while hicks, ripley and newt were in stassis. this will finally put to bed the 'plot hole' of alien 3's mystery egg. it can also put to bed any notion of a 'super face hugger' potentially. it might mean one hugger got to ripley and a 2nd one came on the EEV unit.
but since it appears that Hicks could very well be alive, it means weyland kept hicks alive, and put some other guy alongside bishop, newt and ripley in the EEV unit, and had him killed or disfigured before the crash.
weyland then took the sulaco to Furina 161 (whatverr the planet was called) staged the 'crash' and rerouted the sulaco back to LV-426. began its re-work on the planet again to study the alien ship. picked up ripley a week or so later back at furina.
weeks later, a battalion of the marine core is sent back to LV-426, in a bid by the company i assume, to create some more xenos maybe?
im sure im wrong here or there, but im sure that for the most part, that will be the story.
That is nonsensical and convoluted to Rube Goldberg standards.
I called it. :laugh:
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Quote from: SpaceMarines on Dec 26, 2012, 10:29:14 AM
Quote from: Esoteric_Voyage on Dec 26, 2012, 10:21:34 AM
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im pretty certain that what this means for the story is:
weyland corporation sabotaged the sulaco while hicks, ripley and newt were in stassis. this will finally put to bed the 'plot hole' of alien 3's mystery egg. it can also put to bed any notion of a 'super face hugger' potentially. it might mean one hugger got to ripley and a 2nd one came on the EEV unit.
but since it appears that Hicks could very well be alive, it means weyland kept hicks alive, and put some other guy alongside bishop, newt and ripley in the EEV unit, and had him killed or disfigured before the crash.
weyland then took the sulaco to Furina 161 (whatverr the planet was called) staged the 'crash' and rerouted the sulaco back to LV-426. began its re-work on the planet again to study the alien ship. picked up ripley a week or so later back at furina.
weeks later, a battalion of the marine core is sent back to LV-426, in a bid by the company i assume, to create some more xenos maybe?
im sure im wrong here or there, but im sure that for the most part, that will be the story.
That is nonsensical and convoluted to Rube Goldberg standards.
can you share another interpretation?
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Dec 26, 2012, 10:27:22 AM
Why is Hicks pre-emptively stating he's KIA?
maybe he simply didn't mean himself?
Even in 720p the game looked FUGLY which broke any immersion they were trying to achieve. I'm sure it will look inferior to even Halo Reach. Everything else was fairly interesting, but I'm extremely disappointed with the visuals and I'm not your stereotypical "graphics whore", but I felt the game deserves a unique look...
The character models DO blink with their eyes, but their facial expressions seem to be limited to only a miniscule area adjacent to their mouths...Could be better, could be worse...
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the graphics could be better thats for sure.
my liking for the game isn't too reliant on the visuals, this is the first real attempt at a fully fledged alien/ALIENS game since the film came out. (that doesn't include predators anyway..)
so just to have the graphics be current gen is a pleasure for me.
if the game is going to dissappoint me, it will be because:
story/acting is bad.
game play lacks depth, lack of dead space-resident evil type of survival horror aka too much action, no seclusion or challenge. if i always have a pulse rifle and or a smart gun, with lots of ammo, the game will not have substance. especially if there is always more than enough ammo. we need to be fleeing from aliens, not JUST lots of stand up fights.
The story doesn't look too good, in all honesty...
I'm hoping gameplay is solid and fun, though - that will be the make-or-break for me.
I think what's gonna happen is: Weyland Yutani arrived at Sulaco with either an established facility there or on the planet, they got the eggs on board and wanted to get rid of Ripley and Newt by impregnating them and dumping into the shithole of the universe while got Hicks out for securing some vital information, knowing Ripley would be non-negotiable, while hoping Hicks will play it nicely...That's why Hicks is still alive, I think.
However this would conflict Alien 3 because Weyland Yutani also got there and it was of utmost importance to secure the Xenomorph to them, so I think they wanted to use Ripley and Newt as hosts and contain the Xenos but the whole thing didn't go according to the schedule. And the Hicks part stays the same.
looks too cheesy tbh, i hope the actual game is better than this teaser, because it doesnt have aliens vibe,
the others were much better
...i dont mind the graphics though
I thought the dialogue and V.A. was... quite bad :/
CANON, BITCHES!!11!!
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Quote from: Valaquen on Dec 26, 2012, 11:58:21 AM
I thought the dialogue and V.A. was... quite bad :/
Even city guards in Dishonored are voiced by a better actor, actually the one who played with Lance in Millennium for 16 episodes as det. Giebelhouse.
Quote from: SM on Dec 26, 2012, 11:59:58 AM
CANON, BITCHES!!11!!
:laugh:
:laugh:
BTW
I'm confused, and unless this is a mash-up of various cut-scenes it doesn't quite make sense. One female marine states her disbelief how Sulaco was reported to be orbiting around Fury 161 and now it's around LV-426, that'd indicate they didn't board Sulaco yet at this point, but then Cruz refers to Xenos as "most dangerous killing machines the universe", implying they had prior contact with them and knowledge about them. What gives?
I'd reckon it's all out of order for dramatic effect.
Quote from: SM on Dec 26, 2012, 12:08:37 PM
I'd reckon it's all out of order for dramatic effect.
Like "changing into what" line in Prometheus? Yeah, most likely. Those bastards like to do it. Heck, I did it myself in the conceptual extended trailer for High Fidelity. (Burke's voice) I can show it to you by the way...
worst trailer yet /i can sesnse that the others were made by one team but this...is just...like...an...amateur ...shit.../
Jezus....AVP2010 looked better.
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Dec 26, 2012, 12:01:59 PM
Quote from: Valaquen on Dec 26, 2012, 11:58:21 AM
I thought the dialogue and V.A. was... quite bad :/
Even city guards in Dishonored are voiced by a better actor, actually the one who played with Lance in Millennium for 16 episodes as det. Giebelhouse.
Quote from: SM on Dec 26, 2012, 11:59:58 AM
CANON, BITCHES!!11!!
:laugh:
:laugh:
BTW
I'm confused, and unless this is a mash-up of various cut-scenes it doesn't quite make sense. One female marine states her disbelief how Sulaco was reported to be orbiting around Fury 161 and now it's around LV-426, that'd indicate they didn't board Sulaco yet at this point, but then Cruz refers to Xenos as "most dangerous killing machines the universe", implying they had prior contact with them and knowledge about them. What gives?
I think when Cruz said ""most dangerous killing machines in the universe" he was many the Marines...
im surprised by the amount of negativity about the acting, okay i don't see any oscar potentials, but whats so bad? can someone show me video footage from another game, exampling better voice acting? (don't go digging around for the best voice acting you've ever experiencing in a game, it shouldn't take the best you think exists, to prove this is bad - because then i will think you're just being negative.) this game has a lot live up to, its trying to represent a film, but its still a video game, - stuck inside video game culture. this game's trailer doesn't make me yearn for better acting, it doesn't seem to make me think of another game that i thought was so better.
i was always surprised by how seriously they took this game as far as considering it 'cannon' goes. it was never going to be Canon to me, only films offer canon to me, and even then i pick whats canon (Alien resurrection isn't canon in my world, or any of the avp crap.)
i just hope the game offers a nice entrance of story to the already strained relationship between aliens and alien 3. and i would consider it as about as canon as a dark horse comic.
If Weyland Yutani arrived at Sulaco why didn't he just capture,move and impregnate Newt and Ripley like the Army did on Alien Resurrection? Since i guess they were all in stasis and it wouldn't be hard to do.
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Too many plot holes.Except if there is an amazing explanation/story worth of an Oscar :D
-About the graphics...well i don't care too much about them.The 1st AvP didn't have state of the art graphics.
I was 18 years old back then and i had seen many other current games with better graphics.
-Another thing i want to mention:
We criticize the story of the game compared with the Aliens movie....so what about the blocking system?
It is ridiculous to be able to block and push away an alien and shoot it...or at least that is what Cameron thought too :laugh:
Also the facehuggers are nothing but mice now since you can block them.
On the first AvP they were very scary since they were fast and sneaky.In the dark when you suddenly hear them crawl and then jumped towards you...you knew there was the risk to have an instant death.Every corner turn was a risk.
It was the atmosphere that made AvP 1 so good,not the graphics.The feeling of dread and fear.You didn't have hundreds of xenomorphs to attack you in every corner...and this added to the tension.Plus the ''no save mode''.
That trailer was amazing! Hicks!
QuoteToo many plot holes.Except if there is an amazing explanation/story worth of an Oscar
Don't think anyone's holding their breath. ;D
Holy shit..... GBX are sooooo lazy its annoying. YOU ARE THE DEVS OF THE DAMN GAME!! IS IT SO DAMN HARD TO CAPTURE SOME NEW FOOTAGE FOR YOUR NEW TRAILER??!!! Omg I was seeing footage from old trailers all through the whole trailer.
there is tons of new footages....but talking about ur opinion u want the whole game revealed in trailers just like Prometheus was?
Ikarop will correct me if I'm wrong but pretty sure GBX don't handle their own publicity and edit their trailers or campaigns. They have other companies to do this.
Quote from: szkoki on Dec 26, 2012, 01:57:58 PM
there is tons of new footages....but talking about ur opinion u want the whole game revealed in trailers just like Prometheus was?
Dead Space 1 had different footage in every trailer and nothing was revealed before the game.
I fear this will end up like AVPR did...remember when the actual FANBOYS get to direct the title and promised lot of stuff (sounded promising though) and we ended up getting a pile of sh*t?
I hope its not case now...a bunch of fanboys getting away far away from making a professional game.
Dead Space will remain superior game to this, mark my words.
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Dec 26, 2012, 02:24:11 PM
Dead Space will remain superior game to this, mark my words.
I don't think there's anybody who thinks the opposite mate :laugh:
Any download link?
Gotta agree on how the graphics seem. It looked a helluva lot prettier on the PC when I was playing it - at MCM and the preview event. That said, does seem odd they'd not use their best machines to render the footage. Maybe an issue with IGN uploading the video?
Seems like they're setting up a nice story too. I'm interested to see what's going to happen with it. Seems to me that Hicks was taken out of cryo prior to Alien 3. Bit of mystery going off. Love it.
That looks f**king legit. Can't wait to play it.
The dialogue is too cartoonish and puts me completely out of faith that the storyline will be good at all.
I could care less about the graphics though. There are plenty of games out there with dated graphics that are still quite fun. The Orange Box was panned for the same shortcoming a few years ago and I still think it's one of the best games on both the 360 and PS3.
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Hmm. I quite like the graphics in that trailer. Looks a bit more gritty then before hand which I think suits it better then the slightly cartoonish look it seemed to have.
Not sure I like the style of the trailer. Far too much emphasis on the mystery side of the story, with all the "who didn't we bring back?? what happened on the sullacco" kind of stuff. It looks more like a political thriller then a suspense/horror/action game.
Got to say that Alien right at the end of the trailer looked real nice. Too bad that there are all those stupid variations.
I told ya he sent back a distress signal after the queen battle! :laugh:
Game looks amazing. I hope some of you have a change in heart. Either way, it's not going to stop me from thoroughly enjoying this game.
Me like.
Quote from: G8RSG1 on Dec 26, 2012, 02:52:41 PM
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To set the record straight...i don't think there is anyone here biased against the new game.
We just write our opinion based on what we have seen yet.I'm the first one who hopes this game will be awesome.
Back on the middle 80's when my first game was the legendary Atari ''pong'' and saw Aliens on VHS,i couldn't even dream i would be lucky enough to have a PC and a game based on this movie.My favourite games of the Alien universe are Alien Trilogy for Sega Saturn and AvP 1 and 2.Still i was a bit sad i never got a game that had to do only about the Aliens movie.
Just to understand how much I want this game to be good,or even decent so i forget my gf and my job for a week and play it 24/7.
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I think they did a swell job on content in this one. Very excited about seeing them get to the surface with several APCs and that dropship. I think the marines (all of them ) look like a tight outfit. Still can't get over Bella (looks too toonish) and Hicks looks a bit too clean, maybe its his eyes. But hell, no point in nit picking visuals. Its done, and we've seen a lot worse out of this franchise. This is a spectacle! I'm very keen on seeing a demo release soon, I don't care how short it is.
I also hope to see this in highres soon!
Actually looking at Bella again, she actually looks pretty real. If she shaved her head completely, and lost the face paint she would look ultimate and not a characiture. But definitely quality cgi character here. I'm very impressed, with all of them.
Looks good when is there a demo coming.
It looks like there's gonna be some conflict between Bella and Reid.
To its credit, A:CM at least identifies Fury 161 by its proper name. Alien Resurrection couldn't even get that right.
i was just watching a couple of other trailers released before this, and the graphics looked Better by quite a bit, is this trailer old footage released late/last??
oh and im still waiting for the critics to give me examples of good voice acting in other games.
Quote from: G8RSG1 on Dec 26, 2012, 02:52:41 PM
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i miss ur point i believe....most of us waiting for this game for 10 years, and all of us is waiting since first saw Aliens....but this doesnt help that this trailer is a crappy one after a trailer like this even more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wdfui4_89GQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wdfui4_89GQ)
Quote from: Esoteric_Voyage on Dec 26, 2012, 04:54:05 PM
oh and im still waiting for the critics to give me examples of good voice acting in other games.
You asked, and then told them not to bother listing voice acting that they thought was good. So what do you want? Personally I'd point to the Legacy of Kain series for one. I actually feel it'd be quicker listing games that had bad voice acting, because most games I've played lately (and admittedly I have less and less time to do so) have
at least competent voice acting where the actors sound interested in their own dialogue. Still, even if most games had terrible voice acting it wouldn't excuse a single one of them, including Colonial Marines.
Quote from: Valaquen on Dec 26, 2012, 04:59:45 PM
Quote from: Esoteric_Voyage on Dec 26, 2012, 04:54:05 PM
oh and im still waiting for the critics to give me examples of good voice acting in other games.
You asked, and then told them not to bother listing voice acting that they thought was good.
No, i asked them to find in general, games with good voice acting, not the one game they think had the best acting ever done. if they can only specify one game, or even two, then that just means those 2 games had impressive voice acting, that doesn't make aliens colonial marines Bad. just not as good. people here are raving on how bad the voice acting is, and im curious to learn what their standard of good acting is, and to see the examples myself.
so if 58 games had crappy VA out of 60 and only 2 has tremendous in your opinion aswell might i say that means the other 58 are not crappy....ill buy that theory
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The trailer was kind of cheesy to be honest...
Quote from: szkoki on Dec 26, 2012, 04:58:07 PM
i miss ur point i believe....most of us waiting for this game for 10 years, and all of us is waiting since first saw Aliens....but this doesnt help that this trailer is a crappy one after a trailer like this even more
Yeah pretty much this. Its not about the hate, its telling GBX that they did it wrong.
Quote from: Esoteric_Voyage on Dec 26, 2012, 05:17:33 PM
Quote from: Valaquen on Dec 26, 2012, 04:59:45 PM
Quote from: Esoteric_Voyage on Dec 26, 2012, 04:54:05 PM
oh and im still waiting for the critics to give me examples of good voice acting in other games.
You asked, and then told them not to bother listing voice acting that they thought was good.
No, i asked them to find in general, games with good voice acting, not the one game they think had the best acting ever done. if they can only specify one game, or even two, then that just means those 2 games had impressive voice acting, that doesn't make aliens colonial marines Bad. just not as good. people here are raving on how bad the voice acting is, and im curious to learn what their standard of good acting is, and to see the examples myself.
Good Voice acting?
Halo CE
MGS2
Castlevania Lords Of Shadow.
for god sakes Crash Bandicoot has better voice acting then whats heard in this trailer.
do i pass your test oh one of superiority and haughtyness?
Is it me or does it feel like a TV show? feels like I'm watching the "Roughneck Chronicles"
Kinda surprised to see some of these moments in a trailer. Marketing has spoiled a few bits lately. Also loving the lighting and DOF effect in some of the scenes.
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Quote from: Esoteric_Voyage on Dec 26, 2012, 05:17:33 PM
No, i asked them to find in general, games with good voice acting, not the one game they think had the best acting ever done. if they can only specify one game, or even two, then that just means those 2 games had impressive voice acting, that doesn't make aliens colonial marines Bad. just not as good. people here are raving on how bad the voice acting is, and im curious to learn what their standard of good acting is, and to see the examples myself.
The game can be perfectly bad on its own merits. You don't even need to look to other games for good voice acting - what about animation? Many game actors also do anime dubs. Games that have good voice acting are pretty widespread: how about Mass Effect, or Uncharted, or Assassin's Creed, or the five LoK games, or the God of War series, GTA, Red Dead Redemption, Deus Ex, Portal 2, Bioshock, the MGS series, Beyond Good & Evil, the new Batman games, Final Fantasy X and XII... Most of these aren't my favourite games (though I would say that LoK and the first MGS are probably the best examples of video game voice acting that I can think of) but it goes to show that the expected quality of video game voice acting has went up over the years. The problem with Colonial Marines, that I can see from this trailer (could be better in the final product) is that the dialogue is just hideous exposition (the Captain tells his Marines what ship they-re on, as if they wouldn't know who they are) and is delivered quite flatly. Examples aside, the acting can still be bad on its own merits, even if every other video game on release featured abysmal acting.
btw most of the "childish" games have incredible voice actors
Quote from: ikarop on Dec 26, 2012, 05:56:10 PM
Kinda surprised to see some of these moments in a trailer.
Ditto.
Quote from: szkoki on Dec 26, 2012, 05:57:59 PM
btw most of the "childish" games have incredible voice actors
Yep, I am amazed how badass are all voice overs in CoD.
I'm pretty sure the graphics weren't maxed out for some unknown reason, nonetheless my confidence in the game has grown significantly after seeing this footage, yet I can't disregard the design choices made for Bella. She really looks cartoonish and stereotypical which is offensive according to me. Not to mention those big ass ear rings which violate any grooming standard in military service.
If Nelly and princess Leia had a child, Bella would be it!
Leaving the story aside (just like Gearbox did) the trailer was visually underwhelming. Unlike earlier trailers.
Voice acting was neither here nor there. It was good to hear Biehn. Pity about how they've used the character.
Quote from: Gren_86 on Dec 26, 2012, 08:53:27 PM
I'm pretty sure the graphics weren't maxed out for some unknown reason, nonetheless my confidence in the game has grown significantly after seeing this footage, yet I can't disregard the design choices made for Bella. She really looks cartoonish and stereotypical which is offensive according to me. Not to mention those big ass ear rings which violate any grooming standard in military service.
If Nelly and princess Leia had a child, Bella would be it!
Bellas look's isn't actually stereotyping anything other than maybe representing a hardcore gamer or being of silly comedic value.
guys check it out, they used the same queen model from the 1997 psx Resurrection game
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???? That game came out in 2000 and back in 1997 was a TPP game, I'm not sure what can I make of this screenshot, though.
I'm gonna guess that Hicks still died in Alien 3. What we saw in the trailer may have just been a message he recorded before the crash. Some time passed between Aliens and Alien 3. He could have woken up and sent the message back to base.
As for who the person is in the burlap sack? I'm suspecting it's Hudson. Maybe WY found him. Maybe he has a chestburster in him? Or they just want intel.
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Dec 26, 2012, 02:24:11 PM
Dead Space will remain superior game to this, mark my words.
lol, that made me laugh big time. Dead Space died after the first one, period. Any game with an alien is better then a Dead Space game. Part 2 was fcking horrid, and 3 isn't doing a great job convincing the audience either. No, ill take ACM over DS3 anytime. No matter how crappy the trailer was or would be.
Dead Space 2 > AvP2010.
I dont mind the VA in the trailers. It could be better but c'mon if you think the va is terrible in the trailer you didn't grow up playing RE on PSX back in the day........
Quote from: Hemi on Dec 26, 2012, 10:31:59 PM
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Dec 26, 2012, 02:24:11 PM
Dead Space will remain superior game to this, mark my words.
lol, that made me laugh big time. Dead Space died after the first one, period. Any game with an alien is better then a Dead Space game. Part 2 was fcking horrid, and 3 isn't doing a great job convincing the audience either. No, ill take ACM over DS3 anytime. No matter how crappy the trailer was or would be.
What's wrong with Dead Space?
Quote from: shadowedge on Dec 26, 2012, 10:28:44 PM
As for who the person is in the burlap sack? I'm suspecting it's Hudson. Maybe WY found him. Maybe he has a chestburster in him? Or they just want intel.
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Shirt looks quite the same, stains and the wrinkles of the sleeve on the left side, bandage as well and even the wrinkles next to it - except they used the same shirt model and bandage for him in this trailer :D
Yeah, if it's Hudson it's got the exact same rips in the shirt.
Mind you, this proves nothing either way...
It better have real cinematics like metal gear and not the shit pov quiet guy like avp had.
Pretty cool trailer, aside from some hokey and typical military action game style dialogue it looks nice, and that shot of the APC's with the Dropship is fantastic, hope to see more things like that.
Quote from: Hemi on Dec 26, 2012, 10:31:59 PM
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Dec 26, 2012, 02:24:11 PM
Dead Space will remain superior game to this, mark my words.
lol, that made me laugh big time. Dead Space died after the first one, period. Any game with an alien is better then a Dead Space game. Part 2 was fcking horrid, and 3 isn't doing a great job convincing the audience either. No, ill take ACM over DS3 anytime. No matter how crappy the trailer was or would be.
Wuuuut?
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QuotePart 2 was fcking horrid
Dead Space 2 is one of the few times (if not the only time aside from RE 4) where a horror game sequel has expanded to cater more to the action crowd with out loosing what made the original great. Controls were ironed out (every button has it's own function), story expanded upon (in a natural, non-ridiculous, and OTT fashion), faster paced gameplay (with out entirely ditching the "horror" elements the original had), and the protagonist was finally made interesting after being a mute bore in the first.
Until I see any of those in ACM (especially the second) I'll take the a new Dead Space over ACM.
Quoteand 3 isn't doing a great job convincing the audience either.
Which is why most of the initial negative response has turned positive?
DS 3 is clearly at the moment the more excitement worthy game not just because it's a sequel to an established and popular franchise, but also because it doesn't look like a fanboy project that got enough funds from Fox after Gearbox pestered them over and over about how they could improve Alien 3.
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Dec 26, 2012, 09:27:18 PM
???? That game came out in 2000 and back in 1997 was a TPP game, I'm not sure what can I make of this screenshot, though.
was making a jab at the terrible graphic quality. it is indeed a fleeting shot of a Queen.
i have a theory on why the graphics appear worse in this trailer:
perhaps they are on lower settings because its advertising the console versions, which never are as high quality as PC releases (which have graphics settings)
Console games to my experience are always 720p games upscaled, to increase graphics and maintain FPS.
AA, textures and resolutions always look Better on PC.
Quote from: Esoteric_Voyage on Dec 26, 2012, 10:43:05 AM
lack of dead space-resident evil type of survival horror aka too much action, no seclusion or challenge.
L O L
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Dec 27, 2012, 12:02:16 AM
Quote from: Esoteric_Voyage on Dec 26, 2012, 10:43:05 AM
lack of dead space-resident evil type of survival horror aka too much action, no seclusion or challenge.
L O L
'lol' what?
Dude, you're comparing first person 'horror' to third person survival horror; the differences are vast in approach. I wouldn't even call this a horror game aside from the fact that it's trying to maintain the atmosphere of Aliens... which I wouldn't call 'horror' either. This has pretty much always been marketed as an action shooter. And on the topic of those two series, neither have been very survival horror based for a while... future titles not withstanding.
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Dec 27, 2012, 12:12:58 AM
Dude, you're comparing first person 'horror' to third person survival horror; the differences are vast in approach. I wouldn't even call this a horror game aside from the fact that it's trying to maintain the atmosphere of Aliens... which I wouldn't call 'horror' either. This has pretty much always been marketed as an action shooter. And on the topic of those two series, neither have been very survival horror based for a while... future titles not withstanding.
mate, i didn't say im anti action, i made it clear that if its all action and no terror, and yes aliens was Terror, as much as the first one was Horror, and jim himself stated that, then it will be a fail on the aliens part.
the first three films, are all survival, aliens had action, but it was survival still. and lets not forget, what was originally horror in the first alien (the alien its self) played out as the queen in aliens.
the game should have terror, and survival elements, thats what protagonists always were doing in the franchise. even in aliens. the majority of aliens is survival, only two main sequences have lots of pulse rifle shooting and action.
and if it has no terror, no feel of the aliens series, and its just all action, then its just another shooter, which completely takes away half the point of making this into a game.
the main point i made, is that this game to be memorable, has to have survival and seclusion in there, if its just firing guns all the way through out, then it fails, no film in the franchise had pure action or pure gun fire. resident evil and dead space, the games being third or first person is pretty irrelevant, the point is, you couldn't take ammunition for granted, and neither could the marines in ALIENS. you could not do a stand up fight forever again the aliens, because eventually they overwhelm you or outwit you, as seen in ALIENS. its survival. what the hell did gearbox make escape mode for?
This is my opinion on the whole Dead Space 3 and A:CM debate:
My money is going to go to whichever game is the most fun...Which I TRULY believe will be both.
Terror is subjective. Basically you can't measure how much something is scary. It all depends on who you are and what you're used to.
How the hell did the rest of the trailers before this one look good in practically every single department? This trailer looks so bad - huge step backward.
this could an older build of the single player mode but then why would they put that in a new trailer. im hoping its just a render problem as its looking pretty ropey, still better than avp's graphics though. the story looks interesting aswell.
What bad graphics are we looking at?
QuoteDead Space 2 is one of the few times (if not the only time aside from RE 4) where a horror game sequel has expanded to cater more to the action crowd with out loosing what made the original great.
And
thats...the problem right there... They turned a propper scare into a blast-fest. They had gold with the first one... Now its just a dumb shoot-em-up with configurable weapons. A forgettable title that will have 0 impact unlike the first one.
QuoteWhich is why most of the initial negative response has turned positive?
You must be reading different gaming blogs...
I agree that Dead Space 2 is inferior to the first one in number of ways, but if played on the hardest difficulty from the get-go it's still a thrilling experience, and a blast! Miles above garbage Resident Evil franchise.
Quote from: Esoteric_Voyage on Dec 26, 2012, 10:34:35 AM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Dec 26, 2012, 10:27:22 AM
Why is Hicks pre-emptively stating he's KIA?
maybe he simply didn't mean himself?
"All Colonial Marines dispatched" would logically include himself.
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Dec 26, 2012, 12:01:59 PM
I'm confused, and unless this is a mash-up of various cut-scenes it doesn't quite make sense. One female marine states her disbelief how Sulaco was reported to be orbiting around Fury 161 and now it's around LV-426, that'd indicate they didn't board Sulaco yet at this point, but then Cruz refers to Xenos as "most dangerous killing machines the universe", implying they had prior contact with them and knowledge about them. What gives?
I'd hope that this might be several pieces of dialogue throughout the game which have been spliced together. The alternative is a horridly superficial level of attention to detail... Which many of us are already fearing with the gameplay-motivated advent of new Alien variations.
i think the graphics quality in this trailer is what console players will be getting.
Quote from: Hemi on Dec 27, 2012, 10:39:03 AM
QuoteDead Space 2 is one of the few times (if not the only time aside from RE 4) where a horror game sequel has expanded to cater more to the action crowd with out loosing what made the original great.
And thats...the problem right there... They turned a propper scare into a blast-fest. They had gold with the first one... Now its just a dumb shoot-em-up with configurable weapons. A forgettable title that will have 0 impact unlike the first one.
The first wasn't even that scary to begin with. :laugh:
It was an action game with heavy horror elements. There's a reason people call it Resident Evil 4 in space. Just jump scare after jump scare, with some disturbing noises, and blood splatters on the wall nothing new. The only thing it did right was make grey metal corridors actually look well lit and dark. Resident Evil did the same thing 12 years before and it still wasn't scary there. And configurable weapons have been around since the first. ;)
Quote from: Hemi on Dec 27, 2012, 10:39:03 AM
QuoteWhich is why most of the initial negative response has turned positive?
You must be reading different gaming blogs...
Nope, most of the initial reactions have definitely turned positive since more and more people are now getting ready to buy it and pre-order. The only time I mostly see negative response now, is when any trailer showing the co-op is released and the people bitching seem to purposely forget the game has a single player mode.
Quote from: Jango1201 on Dec 27, 2012, 08:18:06 AM
What bad graphics are we looking at?
I'm surprised nobody can tell us, even though they are eagerly superfluous with their beef. Keep in mind like 50 percent of the trailer is using past trailers. And the difference is that we have this one in 1280x720 and the lather are 1920 x 1080.
Feels a bit like Halo (yeah, i know that Halo was inspired by the movies) :laugh:
QuoteNope, most of the initial reactions have definitely turned positive since more and more people are now getting ready to buy it and pre-order. The only time I mostly see negative response now, is when any trailer showing the co-op is released and the people bitching seem to purposely forget the game has a single player mode.
The positives and negatives are about the same...but that's only because no one seems to care about the IP anymore.
Quote*New trailer DS3!!
4 comments...
The first Dead Space was something fresh and new. Speak for yourself, I did find a few good scares in that game...and it was refreshing to finally see a new scifi IP doing some bold new things to capture its audience. The second one was a big let down to the people that loved the first one. The scares were replaced by dumb combat scenes and Isaac running his stupid mouth.
Allot of people see DS3 as Lost Planet with necromorphs. And if your'e into that sorta thing, power to you then. I'm going to pass on this EA nonsense if you don't mind. Ill give my money to future scifi scares like Routine, who seem to understand that "less is more" when it comes to scary games. A guy named Ridley Scott once did too...
Hicks will be alive and Alien3 will be a "better movie" for not killing him off. Even if gearbox makes it plausible, canon debates will rage to new heights because of this.
Get ready to dust off your canon bibles! :laugh:
Why are we debating the fan reaction to Dead Space?
Because the games have many similarities - aliens, corridor based levels, scary moments, overall atmosphere etc.
But I'm not seeing anyone making comparisons any more; merely debating the quality of the D.S. series. Bring it back to topic.
This post will be coming from somebody who considers Alien 3 to be the worst film to exist outside of the Star Wars prequels that has effectively done everything in its power to destroy a great series in every way possible. I don't care how bad the gameplay is, how cheesy it may seem compared to Aliens, how bad the graphics look, ETC. Alien 2 could have been considered just as cheesy and dumb as any other 80s film to anyone who hadn't seen it outside of a trailer. The game isn't out yet.
What matters most to me is that it looks like it can be an alternative to people who didn't enjoy Alien 3, while being a space shooter solely inspired by Alien 2. The fact that it even has a story with character conflicts shocked me. That's a major theme for this series that could be easily ignored for some dumb shooter plot. Hicks is obviously in trouble, but at least he's not dead. A Bishop android is in it. No predators. Almost everything from Aliens will be in this game. It will feature different subspecies for the alien race but that's what comes with introducing variety for a game. Make no mistake, the game will probably be mediocre, but nothing can touch just how bad 3 and Resurrection was compared to the first two. The fact that there will be something at least somewhat better coming, something that actually RESPECTS its source material is exciting to me.
It will probably be worth a rental, but that's leagues ahead of something regretful , which was Alien 3 in spades.
Trailer in HD (270 MB): http://www.multiupload.nl/I6Y5V48YAW (http://www.multiupload.nl/I6Y5V48YAW)
Quote from: Never say no to Panda! on Dec 27, 2012, 02:57:19 PM
Feels a bit like Halo (yeah, i know that Halo was inspired by the movies) :laugh:
I'm sorry to go off topic, but goddamn Panda, I f**king love your set. So glad to see another fan of that miniseries here. ;D
Hicks lives!
And i'm conflicted about it.
On one hand. Yay he's alive!
On the other hand it cheapens the impact of Alien 3... and even cheapens the death of Ripley to have even more Aliens around so soon after her death... and is bound to create plot holes galore. (So much for making Alien3 better....)
Plus the dialogue seems poorly written standard fluff... and the acting isnt that far ahead... (Minus Michael Biehn of course)
Speculation:
Spoiler
Before the events of Alien3. A Weyland Yutani vessel boards the Sulaco and finds the sleeping passengers and a few unhatched eggs left by the Queen's short stay on the ship. Scientists decide to use the eggs on the passengers. Hicks somehow wakes up (either prior to the Company's arrival or after) and sabotages their efforts, and ends up being responsible for the EEV's release to give Ripley and Newt a chance at surviving. A poor scientist is left inside the EEV. He dies on impact and is confused with Hicks. During the chaos, one of the facehuggers left behind attacks a scientist and that unleashes more xeno's aboard the Sulaco. Somewhere along the game Hicks will find out that Newt and Ripley didnt survive their trip to Fury 161.
??? Interesting to see if that's actually similar to what they use in the game...
Quote from: Campion1 on Dec 27, 2012, 07:58:24 PM
This post will be coming from somebody who considers Alien 3 to be the worst film to exist outside of the Star Wars prequels that has effectively done everything in its power to destroy a great series in every way possible.
So did Aliens by making the series peak too soon.
QuoteAlien 2
Aliens, ALIENS!!! For gods sake... You are on the biggest alien/predator forum on the internet btw...
Quote from: Hemi on Dec 27, 2012, 09:24:07 PM
QuoteAlien 2
Aliens, ALIENS!!! For gods sake... You are on the biggest alien/predator forum on the internet btw...
You, good sir, are forgetting about this gem:
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I believe this is to what Campion1 was referring.
haha lol. I forgot about that weird movie.
Cool poster though..
Quote from: Hemi on Dec 27, 2012, 09:24:07 PM
Quote from: Campion1 on Dec 27, 2012, 07:58:24 PM
This post will be coming from somebody who considers Alien 3 to be the worst film to exist outside of the Star Wars prequels that has effectively done everything in its power to destroy a great series in every way possible.
So did Aliens by making the series peak too soon.
Oh, you mean how it wrapped up everything with a nice little bow. Is that supposed to be a bad thing or something? Does that suddenly invalidate the quality of the film because you wanted more alien movies? Perhaps such productions should be appreciated as they were made.
Aliens as a word is plural and can possibly be misunderstood for the context of the statement, which is why I decided to refer to it as Alien 2 for the sake of understanding. Nothing to throw a fit over. But hey, I'll keep calling it Alien 2 all I want. These are my posts after all.
Quote"All Colonial Marines dispatched" would logically include himself.
"Logically" it obviously doesn't.
Gearbox's wanking has worked against them here.
It's always been assumed Hicks never regained consciousness. Gearbox showing him sending the distress signal is no big deal (and getting Biehn to voice the character is pretty cool) - until they include not only the Derelict but also the colony. Remember that whole bit about "you're going there... to wipe them out" and "the only way to be sure"?
Gearbox didn't either.
Quote from: SM on Dec 27, 2012, 10:34:26 PM
Quote"All Colonial Marines dispatched" would logically include himself.
"Logically" it obviously doesn't.
Gearbox's wanking has worked against them here.
It's always been assumed Hicks never regained consciousness. Gearbox showing him sending the distress signal is no big deal (and getting Biehn to voice the character is pretty cool) - until they include not only the Derelict but also the colony. Remember that whole bit about "you're going there... to wipe them out" and "the only way to be sure"?
Gearbox didn't either.
The strange thing though is the fact that in the video, Hicks shirt and bandage match exactly with the guy who has a bag over his head later on. O'Neal is next to him so that is at least 14 weeks after Alien3. The video recording from Hicks is probably longer than what was shown in the trailer, as well.
One would think so.
Bringing Hicks back to life is just bad story telling. The fact that Gearbox keeps running around crying "this is canon" and then proceeding to create bastardisations like the spitter alien, and f**k with Alien 3 is a bit too much to swallow.
They must think bringing Hicks back is a great idea, but here is a better one: why not create your own characters with proper character arcs, and maybe you'll end up with some memorable ones which will be loved.
I'm going to buy the game and I'm sure I will enjoy it, but it really does piss me off when fan boys (gearbox) are given a free reign and don't pay due respect to the work of others.
That said I pray my expectations will be exceeded, I don't want another Prometheus.
It might turn out to be bad storytelling, it might not. Bringing Hicks back gives them the opportunity to explore new avenues. Borderlands 2 has thoughtful and talented writing IMO, so I have some faith in gearbox. Don't let us down!
Quote from: Xenoscream on Dec 27, 2012, 11:54:16 PM
Bringing Hicks back to life is just bad story telling. The fact that Gearbox keeps running around crying "this is canon" and then proceeding to create bastardisations like the spitter alien, and f**k with Alien 3 is a bit too much to swallow.
They must think bringing Hicks back is a great idea, but here is a better one: why not create your own characters with proper character arcs, and maybe you'll end up with some memorable ones which will be loved.
I'm going to buy the game and I'm sure I will enjoy it, but it really does piss me off when fan boys (gearbox) are given a free reign and don't pay due respect to the work of others.
That said I pray my expectations will be exceeded, I don't want another Prometheus.
We've bigger things to worry about than that tbh, characters being from the original isn't really an issue. How about the more suspicious things like, hit indicators, jagged animations, overpowered marines, sounds etc.
It will be a real shame if in the end its just cod in space in terms of gameplay, that to satisfy as many casual players as possible. Then they've truly wasted a lot of years, especially since you ought to think GBX are a huge fan of the movies and would respect both the gamers and series in making it a proper and atmospheric game.
Worst case scenario we'll re-live the huge anti-climax that was the release of Duke Nukem Forever, a larger disappointment after all those years is hard to find. I still believe more in SEGA than if UBI was running the show, so there is hope but honestly i'm still very skeptical.
Will be the first game I'll be getting in a long time, looks like a true fan service. Those alien models and the lightnings are looking pretty sweet 8]
QuoteOh, you mean how it wrapped up everything with a nice little bow. Is that supposed to be a bad thing or something? Does that suddenly invalidate the quality of the film because you wanted more alien movies?
No, its an opinion just like yours about A3.
And it's still Aliens, as the movie is called that way.
Quote from: heady89 on Dec 28, 2012, 12:34:39 AM
Quote from: Xenoscream on Dec 27, 2012, 11:54:16 PM
Bringing Hicks back to life is just bad story telling. The fact that Gearbox keeps running around crying "this is canon" and then proceeding to create bastardisations like the spitter alien, and f**k with Alien 3 is a bit too much to swallow.
They must think bringing Hicks back is a great idea, but here is a better one: why not create your own characters with proper character arcs, and maybe you'll end up with some memorable ones which will be loved.
I'm going to buy the game and I'm sure I will enjoy it, but it really does piss me off when fan boys (gearbox) are given a free reign and don't pay due respect to the work of others.
That said I pray my expectations will be exceeded, I don't want another Prometheus.
We've bigger things to worry about than that tbh, characters being from the original isn't really an issue. How about the more suspicious things like, hit indicators, jagged animations, overpowered marines, sounds etc.
It will be a real shame if in the end its just cod in space in terms of gameplay, that to satisfy as many casual players as possible. Then they've truly wasted a lot of years, especially since you ought to think GBX are a huge fan of the movies and would respect both the gamers and series in making it a proper and atmospheric game.
Worst case scenario we'll re-live the huge anti-climax that was the release of Duke Nukem Forever, a larger disappointment after all those years is hard to find. I still believe more in SEGA than if UBI was running the show, so there is hope but honestly i'm still very skeptical.
Hit markers are an optional setting. In an article about difficulty they said they do take into account those who want to just play through the campaign, but they won't have an easy time of it. By all accounts so far the aliens are extremely deadly, even more so than they were in any other previous game. This I believe is not something they overlooked, with regards to how deadly and dangerous the aliens should be. Also there will be Ultimate Badass mode with no HUD.
I'm sure there will be some fans who end up disappointed but it won't be anything like what happened to DNF.
Quote from: dumika on Dec 28, 2012, 12:50:44 AM
looks like a true fan service.
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... so wrong! :D
Thx @ Anjin-SpaceMarines
Ive watched this a couple times now... Im beginning to believe its just a poorly done trailer. Cruz' speech seems to be just introductory initially then after bella makes a comment (which seems like dialogue from ingame) its just a series of different clips from various parts of the game to make a seemingly seamless piece of storytelling.
Its not uncommon with movie trailers, hell Ive been fooled by it more than once. In point of fact not in a positive way, once I found out.
Seems like they have atleast tried to make the character models look dirtier and reflect the rigors they will be going through. Im still going to reserve judgement. I know theyve fixed the audio for the guns in that single player preview. Im happy about that much.
QuoteThey must think bringing Hicks back is a great idea, but here is a better one: why not create your own characters with proper character arcs, and maybe you'll end up with some memorable ones which will be loved.
f**k that! There are coat tails to be cheaply ridden on!
Quote from: SM on Dec 28, 2012, 02:04:44 AM
QuoteThey must think bringing Hicks back is a great idea, but here is a better one: why not create your own characters with proper character arcs, and maybe you'll end up with some memorable ones which will be loved.
f**k that! There are coat tails to be cheaply ridden on!
Bringing Hicks back to explore new avenues of the story doesn't stop them from introducing new, engaging, and memorable characters of their own. Its a controversial plot twist but that doesn't automatically mean it will detract from the overall quality of the story (eg: Alien3.)
Quote from: Valaquen on Dec 27, 2012, 06:25:41 PM
But I'm not seeing anyone making comparisons any more; merely debating the quality of the D.S. series. Bring it back to topic.
The only makers of a game which have, to my knowledge, made a statement on wanting their product to be superior to the '
Dead Space' series are Creative Assembly. The details about which have been remarkably silent. We still don't know if it'll be the RTS everyone's expecting or something which is completely different.
Quote from: Predaker on Dec 28, 2012, 02:19:57 AM
Quote from: SM on Dec 28, 2012, 02:04:44 AM
QuoteThey must think bringing Hicks back is a great idea, but here is a better one: why not create your own characters with proper character arcs, and maybe you'll end up with some memorable ones which will be loved.
f**k that! There are coat tails to be cheaply ridden on!
Bringing Hicks back to explore new avenues of the story doesn't stop them from introducing new, engaging, and memorable characters of their own. Its a controversial plot twist but that doesn't automatically mean it will detract from the overall quality of the story (eg: Alien3.)
I don't think anyone is expecting new, engaging or memorable characters from this. The story is the work of hacks as it stands.
Here is my own postulating on the story.
Spoiler
We have seen that Burke was trying to act on his own so he could claim all the profit, he was a greasy little s#%t. It would seem he hadn't even informed his superiors about his plans. He was unprepared for what was to come, and got the colonists killed. At that point it was impossible to keep the Colonial Marines from investigating the loss of contact. The Sulaco was sent and Burke went along to see if he could salvage the operation.
Meanwhile the secretive heads at WY, had their own plans. They knew a bit better what the creatures were capable of, and prepared a more sophisticated scheme. They hadn't caught on to what Burke was doing in time to stop him, so they had no choice but to let the marines go to LV-426. In the mean time they secretly sent their own forces to collect specimens and silence any survivors. WY could have arrived unbeknownst to the crew of the Sulaco even before they were wiped out. They could have been orbiting on the other side of the planet and preparing a base of operations at the derelict, the real point of interest.
The AP blew and the survivors left, but WY couldn't let anyone survive to tell their story, they had to control the flow of information. So a team was sent to the Sulaco with alien specimens from the derelict, they decided to not wipe out the survivors but run a test on them. First Hicks was taken from cryo-sleep to be used for information. His body was replaced with a double that most likely had his face crushed, even before impact on Fury 161, His body was wrapped in gauze and Hicks dog tags were placed on the body. Then they released aliens on the Sulaco to see what would happen. It may be likely that they new Ripley would be infected by a Queen.
Once the crew was infected they allowed the fire to start. A fortunate accident, they probably had a contingency plan to launch the EEV. They had already moved the Sulaco to a planet they controlled and could monitor, Fury 161. After the EEV had launched they put out the fire and returned to LV-426. The EEV landed and it was assumed that Hick's wounds were caused by the crash.
The company was probable looking to have Ripley die by chest burst and then watch a new queen set up a hive, collecting samples as needed. Things didn't go as planned, they went in to collect Ripley to try and salvage a bad situation, she committed suicide. This wasn't much of a setback for them since they had the derelict. They began running experiments on LV-426 which got out of hand, the Sulaco which had been brought back, was lost to alien infection and the WY instillation was soon to follow.
This is where the Sephora comes in, sent to investigate what really happened on LV-426.
It may be possible (and I wouldn't be surprised at this point) that WY was there in time to save Hudson from impregnation and the subsequent blast. Since we have heard rumors that he is in the game (although I hope not Hicks is enough of a stretch). Hell next thing they'll say is that Vasquez didn't die when Gorman set off the grenade.
Oops
Sulaco, my bad.
The story will fail because it seems its all about some personal vendetta between our squad and WY, with our guys thinking that Hicks' is WY guy (maybe he is, who knows) but the thing is that such scenario won't work well for Alien related movie or game. You see, I think the movies were all about the survival and everything else stays somehow in the background. Like when in Aliens the marines found out that Bourke is a "rat", this did not interrupted the story about how the marines tried to survive in the current situation. In ACM our guys are like "ok lets do the WY guys first and leave the xeno bastards for later". We already have seen fighting against WY soldiers in the trailers so its very possible thats to be the case - the survival is set in the background and doing our personal 4 man army vendetta against the WY, with some xenos attacking us from time to time. I really hope I am wrong though.
pretty badass trailer ;D
Quote from: DemonicD13 on Dec 28, 2012, 03:42:48 AM
Here is my own postulating on the story.
Spoiler
We have seen that Burke was trying to act on his own so he could claim all the profit, he was a greasy little s#%t. It would seem he hadn't even informed his superiors about his plans. He was unprepared for what was to come, and got the colonists killed. At that point it was impossible to keep the Colonial Marines from investigating the loss of contact. The Suloco was sent and Burke went along to see if he could salvage the operation.
Meanwhile the secretive heads at WY, had their own plans. They knew a bit better what the creatures were capable of, and prepared a more sophisticated scheme. They hadn't caught on to what Burke was doing in time to stop him, so they had no choice but to let the marines go to LV-426. In the mean time they secretly sent their own forces to collect specimens and silence any survivors. WY could have arrived unbeknownst to the crew of the Suloco even before they were wiped out. They could have been orbiting on the other side of the planet and preparing a base of operations at the derelict, the real point of interest.
The AP blew and the survivors left, but WY couldn't let anyone survive to tell their story, they had to control the flow of information. So a team was sent to the Suloco with alien specimens from the derelict, they decided to not wipe out the survivors but run a test on them. First Hicks was taken from cryo-sleep to be used for information. His body was replaced with a double that most likely had his face crushed, even before impact on Fury 161, His body was wrapped in gauze and Hicks dog tags were placed on the body. Then they released aliens on the Suloco to see what would happen. It may be likely that they new Ripley would be infected by a Queen.
Once the crew was infected they allowed the fire to start. A fortunate accident, they probably had a contingency plan to launch the EEV. They had already moved the Suloco to a planet they controlled and could monitor, Fury 161. After the EEV had launched they put out the fire and returned to LV-426. The EEV landed and it was assumed that Hick's wounds were caused by the crash.
The company was probable looking to have Ripley die by chest burst and then watch a new queen set up a hive, collecting samples as needed. Things didn't go as planned, they went in to collect Ripley to try and salvage a bad situation, she committed suicide. This wasn't much of a setback for them since they had the derelict. They began running experiments on LV-426 which got out of hand, the Suloco which had been brought back, was lost to alien infection and the WY instillation was soon to follow.
This is where the Sephora comes in, sent to investigate what really happened on LV-426.
It may be possible (and I wouldn't be surprised at this point) that WY was there in time to save Hudson from impregnation and the subsequent blast. Since we have heard rumors that he is in the game (although I hope not Hicks is enough of a stretch). Hell next thing they'll say is that Vasquez didn't die when Gorman set off the grenade.
This is stupidly convoluted. And it wouldn't surprise me if you nailed it. ;D
Quote from: Never say no to Panda! on Dec 28, 2012, 01:20:43 AM
Quote from: dumika on Dec 28, 2012, 12:50:44 AM
looks like a true fan service.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.empireonline.com%2Fimages%2Fuploaded%2Fnewprometheus35.jpg&hash=e6554b92e7404bf0ddeb86c7615c309d01b632f7)
... so wrong! :D
Thx @ Anjin-SpaceMarines
Well, for me it is. :) Gearbox has a good record of games (DNF is a different story) and the game looks like a decent Alien game, which I haven't played since AVP2. AvP2010 was pretty good, but the campaing was lacking.
QuoteSuloco
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.joshgulch.com%2Fmovies%2Fimages%2Fmisc%2Falien3%2Falien3ac.png&hash=ff55e65de2617dce590f8086f9b49a7dd4eed2e9)
Well, if they want to fix ALL the gaps, they missed a trick not having the Sulaco's left side logo be white! Could easily be black on one side, white the other. Whoops!
Anyway, I don't mind the convoluted 'hicks is alive' stuff, it gives a teensy bit of pre-existing meat to chew on, rather than just an A-Z shooter. It's far fetched and silly, sure, but it doesn't bother me for some reason. I'm rather looking forward to seeing how it plays out.
I hate to say it but... I got a very bad feeling about this game. :'(
I knew it wasn't going to be the best looking game ever but... I just feel sad. Plus the story and the dialogue... oh man.
Quote from: Badmothafcka312 on Dec 28, 2012, 09:07:17 PM
I hate to say it but... I got a very bad feeling about this game. :'(
I knew it wasn't going to be the best looking game ever but... I just feel sad. Plus the story and the dialogue... oh man.
I think the main problem with the perception of the game itself is how it has been presented to the fan community. It as been advertised for years as something more of a spiritual sequel to Aliens rather than the video game it was always going to be. Hollywood writers, Syd Mead, Ridley Scott, Michael Biehn; all of the names have more to do with a film industry than with actual video games and it's been going on for years courtesy of Gearbox.
Now people are beginning to see this project for what it is, A GAME...and it's disappointing because the hype machine has been at work claiming it was going to be more than this. Like all video games it will be criticized for its graphical blemishes, cheesy dialogue, and (wait for it) control scheme after its release. Even the great games go through this...but it's going to feel different to a lot of people who frequent these boards because they've followed the advertising religiously and, like any great franchise, might have expectations that are simply too high to overcome.
If you measure this game next to the all of the Alien games and mods that have come before it, then there is no way to say that it is a graphically inferior production. But next to a game like, say, Halo 4, then it doesn't hold up so well. It's just a matter of how you want to measure the game itself. On the same token, the cheesy dialogue that you hear is pretty common for a video game. First person shooters are rarely applauded for their intelligent story lines in the same way that movies are...but thats because they are mostly made to appeal to teenage boys and not critically thinking adults. So if you compare A:CM to other video games, the storyline might still be acceptable on those specific terms. If you get caught up the GBX hype machine though, you're going to run the risk of severe disappointment because they want you to (falsely) look at their product as canon to the actual films.
If everyone can just agree to look at this as the video game and not anything beyond that then it would be easier for everyone to accept these short comings that we are noticing as things that are acceptable. It's not a movie, it's a video game. It's not as polished as Halo 4 or Bioshock Infinite but it might very well be the best looking Aliens game ever made.
Ash, you have successfully summed up everything that needs to be said about this game, but when it comes to this game being canon, you have to remember that canon is like...your opinion man
Is it me, or do i find alot of new members storming in with the most pessimistic comments ever?
Quote from: acrediblesource on Dec 28, 2012, 10:24:02 PM
Is it me, or do i find alot of new members storming in with the most pessimistic comments ever?
It's what A:CM does!
Ash you hit the nail on the head, stated perfectly.
What a 'tec, how do we know that Hicks has been resurrected? And also, gameplay on 6+ year old consoles is no way to judge the graphics of the game. :p
Quote from: thecaffeinatedone on Dec 29, 2012, 01:47:07 AM
What a 'tec, how do we know that Hicks has been resurrected? And also, gameplay on 6+ year old consoles is no way to judge the graphics of the game. :p
The man with a bag over his head is next to O'Neal. The shirt and arm bandage match with Hicks from the beginning of the video. Also the line, "who did we bring back?" It's Hicks.
Quote from: Ash 937 on Dec 28, 2012, 10:03:38 PM
I think the main problem with the perception of the game itself is how it has been presented to the fan community. It as been advertised for years as something more of a spiritual sequel to Aliens rather than the video game it was always going to be. Hollywood writers, Syd Mead, Ridley Scott, Michael Biehn; all of the names have more to do with a film industry than with actual video games and it's been going on for years courtesy of Gearbox.
Now people are beginning to see this project for what it is, A GAME...and it's disappointing because the hype machine has been at work claiming it was going to be more than this.
Right now, I honestly think that the inevitable 'art of' companion book will be a lot more satisfying to breeze through than the actual product it's for, if it's presented in a suitably glossy and slick collector-worthy style.
I mean, I'm assuming one will be released... There should've been one for 2010's entry in the AVP series, too, judging by all the art we saw doing the rounds, but it never ultimately surfaced.
Quote from: Predaker on Dec 29, 2012, 02:30:18 AM
Quote from: thecaffeinatedone on Dec 29, 2012, 01:47:07 AM
What a 'tec, how do we know that Hicks has been resurrected? And also, gameplay on 6+ year old consoles is no way to judge the graphics of the game. :p
The man with a bag over his head is next to O'Neal. The shirt and arm bandage match with Hicks from the beginning of the video. Also the line, "who did we bring back?" It's Hicks.
o_o .....
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fP-0-dEHhA#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fP-0-dEHhA#ws)
QuoteWhat a 'tec, how do we know that Hicks has been resurrected?
In the version of the Alien universe being invented here - he was never dead, therefore wasn't resurrected.
QuoteAnd also, gameplay on 6+ year old consoles is no way to judge the graphics of the game. :p
How else would you judge it?
Quote from: SM on Dec 29, 2012, 07:53:59 AM
QuoteWhat a 'tec, how do we know that Hicks has been resurrected?
In the version of the Alien universe being invented here - he was never dead, therefore wasn't resurrected.
QuoteAnd also, gameplay on 6+ year old consoles is no way to judge the graphics of the game. :p
How else would you judge it?
I know this might sound crazy (which it probably is), but perhaps Hicks's death was manufactured in Alien 3. A support strut smashes his face in when Ripley's EEV crashes on Fiorina 161, (perhaps intentionally?) making it pretty difficult to identify him. What I'm thinking is that WY took Hicks out of hypersleep, and put some other poor bastard in his cryotube. So maybe that really wasn't Hicks in Alien 3? Either way, if Hicks is part of the plot in A:CM they better not make him some kind of WY thug. I'd rather see my favorite Aliens character die on Fury 161 than have become one of the bad guys. I am ecstatic to see one of my heroes resurrected, yet at the same time, I worry that this will make his character seem pretty rotten. I hope I'm wrong.
Lol at everyone thinking that Hicks was false identified on Fury 161. Its the future.. how do you think they identify the bodies? By looking at their face? omg..... :laugh:
Quote from: WinterActual on Dec 29, 2012, 08:22:54 AM
Lol at everyone thinking that Hicks was false identified on Fury 161. Its the future.. how do you think they identify the bodies? By looking at their face? omg..... :laugh:
hmm...fury 161 was hardly state of the art facility, and he most likely had a dog tag with him...btw, I bet Hicks is in the game to epitomize clear-cut good but he's going to die anyway :-D only this time for good.
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Dec 29, 2012, 08:29:02 AM
Quote from: WinterActual on Dec 29, 2012, 08:22:54 AM
Lol at everyone thinking that Hicks was false identified on Fury 161. Its the future.. how do you think they identify the bodies? By looking at their face? omg..... :laugh:
hmm...fury 161 was hardly state of the art facility, and he most likely had a dog tag with him...btw, I bet Hicks is in the game to epitomize clear-cut good but he's going to die anyway :-D only this time for good.
Well, I hope they give him a good send off, as opposed to the raw deal he got in Alien 3. :P
Quote from: HicksLives! on Dec 29, 2012, 08:40:38 AM
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Dec 29, 2012, 08:29:02 AM
Quote from: WinterActual on Dec 29, 2012, 08:22:54 AM
Lol at everyone thinking that Hicks was false identified on Fury 161. Its the future.. how do you think they identify the bodies? By looking at their face? omg..... :laugh:
hmm...fury 161 was hardly state of the art facility, and he most likely had a dog tag with him...btw, I bet Hicks is in the game to epitomize clear-cut good but he's going to die anyway :-D only this time for good.
Well, I hope they give him a good send off, as opposed to the raw deal he got in Alien 3. :P
It wasnt state of the art...however...the EEV was. Problem with that is the company owns the EEV and can tamper with the data.
so many questions... we will soon find out.
QuoteI know this might sound crazy (which it probably is),
Yes. It does.
ummm but this game doesnt make any sense...now in the timeline its between alien3 and aliens but the sulaco will crash onto lv426...then how ends up on fury 161...different ship? and why do u ever want to fake a whole ship to cover up something? just say its crashd or something
Quote from: szkoki on Dec 29, 2012, 12:24:58 PM
ummm but this game doesnt make any sense...now in the timeline its between alien3 and aliens but the sulaco will crash onto lv426...then how ends up on fury 161...different ship? and why do u ever want to fake a whole ship to cover up something? just say its crashd or something
It still takes place after Alien 3.
For your second question. The story so far looks like a load of ass, and not the good kind.
So why give a f**k?
Can someone be a dear and get screencaps please?
Quote from: szkoki on Dec 29, 2012, 12:24:58 PM
ummm but this game doesnt make any sense...now in the timeline its between alien3 and aliens but the sulaco will crash onto lv426...then how ends up on fury 161...different ship? and why do u ever want to fake a whole ship to cover up something? just say its crashd or something
A:CM takes place 14 weeks after Alien3. Ripley has already been dead for months and the Sulaco has returned to LV-426. None of the campaign takes places on fury 161.
Quote from: Predaker on Dec 29, 2012, 04:32:59 PM
A:CM takes place 14 weeks after Alien3. Ripley has already been dead for months and the Sulaco has returned to LV-426. None of the campaign takes places on fury 161.
Hopefully the corridors of Fury 161 will show up as a MP map or as a DLC mini-campaign. If they can conceive of a way to bring Hicks back then I don't see how they couldn't pull a story out of their asses to create an infestation on Fury 161. GBX says they've managed to create some great lighting effects out of their engine. I think it would be cool to see that put to use in long corridors lit by candle lights that get blown out as hordes of xenos come your way.
So, does this game take 17 days or 17 weeks after Aliens?
I remember in early interviews they said 17 days and now they're saying 17 weeks.
They've confused the 17 days vs 17 weeks thing fairly often, but have more consistently gone with weeks.
Quote from: SM on Dec 29, 2012, 10:01:45 PM
They've confused the 17 days vs 17 weeks thing fairly often, but have more consistently gone with weeks.
Id like to know who can survive for 17 weeks without food.
Quote from: acrediblesource on Dec 29, 2012, 10:05:53 PM
Quote from: SM on Dec 29, 2012, 10:01:45 PM
They've confused the 17 days vs 17 weeks thing fairly often, but have more consistently gone with weeks.
Id like to know who can survive for 17 weeks without food.
Some soldiers have been documented to do extreme things to survive in harsh conditions. Hicks probably drank his own urine and fed off of the dead bodies of his fallen comrades for survival. Frost, Gorman, and Vasquez were all cooked so when he ate pieces of them it was like a BBQ.
Quote from: Ash 937 on Dec 29, 2012, 11:19:52 PMSome soldiers have been documented to do extreme things to survive in harsh conditions. Hicks probably drank his own urine and fed off of the dead bodies of his fallen comrades for survival. Frost, Gorman, and Vasquez were all cooked so when he ate pieces of them it was like a BBQ.
Lololol. Maybe the Sulaco had food supplies.
That trailer was... confusing.
Quote from: Ash 937 on Dec 29, 2012, 11:19:52 PM
Quote from: acrediblesource on Dec 29, 2012, 10:05:53 PM
Quote from: SM on Dec 29, 2012, 10:01:45 PM
They've confused the 17 days vs 17 weeks thing fairly often, but have more consistently gone with weeks.
Id like to know who can survive for 17 weeks without food.
Some soldiers have been documented to do extreme things to survive in harsh conditions. Hicks probably drank his own urine and fed off of the dead bodies of his fallen comrades for survival. Frost, Gorman, and Vasquez were all cooked so when he ate pieces of them it was like a BBQ.
And because of the radiation, he now possesses all their skillz.
Quote from: Ash 937 on Dec 29, 2012, 11:19:52 PM
Quote from: acrediblesource on Dec 29, 2012, 10:05:53 PM
Quote from: SM on Dec 29, 2012, 10:01:45 PM
They've confused the 17 days vs 17 weeks thing fairly often, but have more consistently gone with weeks.
Id like to know who can survive for 17 weeks without food.
Some soldiers have been documented to do extreme things to survive in harsh conditions. Hicks probably drank his own urine and fed off of the dead bodies of his fallen comrades for survival. Frost, Gorman, and Vasquez were all cooked so when he ate pieces of them it was like a BBQ.
That makes perfect canon!
Quote from: SM on Dec 30, 2012, 12:03:28 AM
Quote from: Ash 937 on Dec 29, 2012, 11:19:52 PM
Quote from: acrediblesource on Dec 29, 2012, 10:05:53 PM
Quote from: SM on Dec 29, 2012, 10:01:45 PM
They've confused the 17 days vs 17 weeks thing fairly often, but have more consistently gone with weeks.
Id like to know who can survive for 17 weeks without food.
Some soldiers have been documented to do extreme things to survive in harsh conditions. Hicks probably drank his own urine and fed off of the dead bodies of his fallen comrades for survival. Frost, Gorman, and Vasquez were all cooked so when he ate pieces of them it was like a BBQ.
And because of the radiation, he now possesses all their skillz.
Now I'd like to see a Boomer version of Hicks because of, you know, all of that radiation...
::)
Quote from: Ash 937 on Dec 29, 2012, 08:45:29 PM
Quote from: Predaker on Dec 29, 2012, 04:32:59 PM
A:CM takes place 14 weeks after Alien3. Ripley has already been dead for months and the Sulaco has returned to LV-426. None of the campaign takes places on fury 161.
Hopefully the corridors of Fury 161 will show up as a MP map or as a DLC mini-campaign. If they can conceive of a way to bring Hicks back then I don't see how they couldn't pull a story out of their asses to create an infestation on Fury 161. GBX says they've managed to create some great lighting effects out of their engine. I think it would be cool to see that put to use in long corridors lit by candle lights that get blown out as hordes of xenos come your way.
THIS. I can see it now...don't deny us a Fury map, Gearbox!
Trailer looks cool, still can't wait to play this game.
Are gearbox going to explain where all the aliens have come from in this game considering Hadley's Hope only had 158 colonists and Ripley's team must have taken roughly half of them out at least?
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Dec 30, 2012, 10:37:39 AM
Are gearbox going to explain where all the aliens have come from in this game considering Hadley's Hope only had 158 colonists and Ripley's team must have taken roughly half of them out at least?
I doubt it. In a recent article that Ikarop posted somewhere in this board, it was mentioned that apparently the Xenos don't have a queen, and are just rabid or something. I wonder if it has anything to do in between the 17 weeks that this game takes place after, possibly WY came in first and decided to do some evil shit or something. The only reason I say that is not because of the WY presence that has been seen in the trailers, but because of some concept art that was released a while back showing a secret lab, complete with pods that had Xenomorphs inside of them. Could just be a scrapped concept, but you never know.
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Dec 30, 2012, 10:37:39 AM
Are gearbox going to explain where all the aliens have come from in this game considering Hadley's Hope only had 158 colonists and Ripley's team must have taken roughly half of them out at least?
I think that it was said somewhere that there is roughly 700 marines on the suphora, alot of them get impregnated to make the hordes we'll see.
Quote from: ShadowPred on Dec 30, 2012, 11:29:06 AM
I doubt it. In a recent article that Ikarop posted somewhere in this board, it was mentioned that apparently the Xenos don't have a queen, and are just rabid or something. I wonder if it has anything to do in between the 17 weeks that this game takes place after, possibly WY came in first and decided to do some evil shit or something. The only reason I say that is not because of the WY presence that has been seen in the trailers, but because of some concept art that was released a while back showing a secret lab, complete with pods that had Xenomorphs inside of them. Could just be a scrapped concept, but you never know.
That would seem to be contradicted by the queen we've seen feature prominently in many of the trailers. I guess it's possible she could die relatively early in the campaign though, as the one in AVP did.
700 Marines? That seems a bit over the top.
Quote from: MR EL1M1NATOR on Dec 30, 2012, 12:19:52 PM
700 Marines? That seems a bit over the top.
Checked some of the earlier previews again and I couldn't find any mention of 700 marines so I may be imagining that, but the marine crew on the sephora is always called a battalion so there's at least 300 to 1,200 marines on it.
Quote from: ShadowPred on Dec 30, 2012, 11:29:06 AM
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Dec 30, 2012, 10:37:39 AM
Are gearbox going to explain where all the aliens have come from in this game considering Hadley's Hope only had 158 colonists and Ripley's team must have taken roughly half of them out at least?
I doubt it. In a recent article that Ikarop posted somewhere in this board, it was mentioned that apparently the Xenos don't have a queen, and are just rabid or something. I wonder if it has anything to do in between the 17 weeks that this game takes place after, possibly WY came in first and decided to do some evil shit or something. The only reason I say that is not because of the WY presence that has been seen in the trailers, but because of some concept art that was released a while back showing a secret lab, complete with pods that had Xenomorphs inside of them. Could just be a scrapped concept, but you never know.
Rabid without a Queen........
This is what I can't stand.
Without the Queen, them being mindless dumbasses.
*facepalm*
Quote from: The Runner on Dec 30, 2012, 05:16:40 PM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Dec 30, 2012, 11:29:06 AM
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Dec 30, 2012, 10:37:39 AM
Are gearbox going to explain where all the aliens have come from in this game considering Hadley's Hope only had 158 colonists and Ripley's team must have taken roughly half of them out at least?
I doubt it. In a recent article that Ikarop posted somewhere in this board, it was mentioned that apparently the Xenos don't have a queen, and are just rabid or something. I wonder if it has anything to do in between the 17 weeks that this game takes place after, possibly WY came in first and decided to do some evil shit or something. The only reason I say that is not because of the WY presence that has been seen in the trailers, but because of some concept art that was released a while back showing a secret lab, complete with pods that had Xenomorphs inside of them. Could just be a scrapped concept, but you never know.
Rabid without a Queen........
This is what I can't stand.
Without the Queen, them being mindless dumbasses.
*facepalm*
Her grand Majesty better not perish so early in the game- and why do these Xenos act so stupidly? Kane's son-daughter wasn't stupid...and he/she didn't have the guidance of a Queen. :-\
Quote from: The Runner on Dec 30, 2012, 05:16:40 PM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Dec 30, 2012, 11:29:06 AM
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Dec 30, 2012, 10:37:39 AM
Are gearbox going to explain where all the aliens have come from in this game considering Hadley's Hope only had 158 colonists and Ripley's team must have taken roughly half of them out at least?
I doubt it. In a recent article that Ikarop posted somewhere in this board, it was mentioned that apparently the Xenos don't have a queen, and are just rabid or something. I wonder if it has anything to do in between the 17 weeks that this game takes place after, possibly WY came in first and decided to do some evil shit or something. The only reason I say that is not because of the WY presence that has been seen in the trailers, but because of some concept art that was released a while back showing a secret lab, complete with pods that had Xenomorphs inside of them. Could just be a scrapped concept, but you never know.
Rabid without a Queen........
This is what I can't stand.
Without the Queen, them being mindless dumbasses.
*facepalm*
No one said anything about them being mindless dumbasses without a Queen. The difference is there isn't a Queen around to dictate what form or function the standard soldiers serve.
They are not saying the Queen dies early in the game and then all of a sudden these aliens mutate. The point is the Queen died at the end of Aliens and without a Queen, any aliens around after the explosion may have evolved or become altered somehow for whatever reason they explain in the game. The variants are already around LV-426 because 17 weeks have passed since the atmospheric processor went critical. They have hinted that there could be different hives with different Queens on LV-426, and thus we have a new Queen to fight. The presence of the aliens is explained or accounted for much like the bullets were in Die Hard.
Quote from: Predaker on Dec 30, 2012, 06:21:13 PM
Quote from: The Runner on Dec 30, 2012, 05:16:40 PM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Dec 30, 2012, 11:29:06 AM
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Dec 30, 2012, 10:37:39 AM
Are gearbox going to explain where all the aliens have come from in this game considering Hadley's Hope only had 158 colonists and Ripley's team must have taken roughly half of them out at least?
I doubt it. In a recent article that Ikarop posted somewhere in this board, it was mentioned that apparently the Xenos don't have a queen, and are just rabid or something. I wonder if it has anything to do in between the 17 weeks that this game takes place after, possibly WY came in first and decided to do some evil shit or something. The only reason I say that is not because of the WY presence that has been seen in the trailers, but because of some concept art that was released a while back showing a secret lab, complete with pods that had Xenomorphs inside of them. Could just be a scrapped concept, but you never know.
Rabid without a Queen........
This is what I can't stand.
Without the Queen, them being mindless dumbasses.
*facepalm*
No one said anything about them being mindless dumbasses without a Queen. The difference is there isn't a Queen around to dictate what form or function the standard soldiers serve.
They are not saying the Queen dies early in the game and then all of a sudden these aliens mutate. The point is the Queen died at the end of Aliens and without a Queen, any aliens around after the explosion may have evolved or become altered somehow for whatever reason they explain in the game. The variants are already around LV-426 because 17 weeks have passed since the atmospheric processor went critical. They have hinted that there could be different hives with different Queens on LV-426, and thus we have a new Queen to fight. The presence of the aliens is explained or accounted for much like the bullets were in Die Hard.
I'd prefer that the queen was just like the other ones in terms of intelligence. She's just a valuable commodity, she's the most efficient way of spreading the infection around. Queen or no queen, the aliens would be fine. They'd just egg morph some poor animal or sap and then use a host for the next to be virus pumper.
Other hives? Wait during the events of Aliens or after?
According to Cameron without a Queen one of the other Aliens would simply perform the function. I don't know what A:CM has in mind.
Quote from: Valaquen on Dec 30, 2012, 08:26:31 PM
According to Cameron without a Queen one of the other Aliens would simply perform the function. I don't know what A:CM has in mind.
One of the achievements is Dragged Queen. :laugh:
Quote from: Valaquen on Dec 30, 2012, 08:26:31 PM
According to Cameron without a Queen one of the other Aliens would simply perform the function. I don't know what A:CM has in mind.
EU Space Bugs
Again, you guys are all looking for disappointment if you care to take this story line seriously. It's not relevant to discuss any new Queen or any new hive for that matter unless you conveniently forget that the entire premise of this game goes against the events that we all saw in Aliens. The setting is actually a crater the size of Nebraska, not a heavily damaged structure that only looks like it was cluster bombed for a few minutes. A:CM is just a fun way to look at the universe in an alternate reality.
Quote from: Ash 937 on Dec 30, 2012, 11:12:35 PM
Again, you guys are all looking for disappointment if you care to take this story line seriously. It's not relevant to discuss any new Queen or any new hive for that matter unless you conveniently forget that the entire premise of this game goes against the events that we all saw in Aliens. The setting is actually a crater the size of Nebraska, not a heavily damaged structure that only looks like it was cluster bombed for a few minutes. A:CM is just a fun way to look at the universe in an alternate reality.
If only Gearbox would have said right off the bat that this game was a "what if..." type of game, I think everyone here wouldn't be complaining about it, myself included. Even I didn't complain when the Scarface video game came out because I knew beforehand that it was a "what if" story.
Quote from: Nightlord on Dec 30, 2012, 01:28:51 PM
Quote from: MR EL1M1NATOR on Dec 30, 2012, 12:19:52 PM
700 Marines? That seems a bit over the top.
Checked some of the earlier previews again and I couldn't find any mention of 700 marines so I may be imagining that, but the marine crew on the sephora is always called a battalion so there's at least 300 to 1,200 marines on it.
in the trailer they says Sephora has 35 marine or at least our squad...but ummm at least 275 marine couldnt handle a few xeno? How many are there on the Sulaco? 2000??? And where are sooo many host from????
Quote from: ShadowPred on Dec 30, 2012, 11:22:27 PM
Quote from: Ash 937 on Dec 30, 2012, 11:12:35 PM
Again, you guys are all looking for disappointment if you care to take this story line seriously. It's not relevant to discuss any new Queen or any new hive for that matter unless you conveniently forget that the entire premise of this game goes against the events that we all saw in Aliens. The setting is actually a crater the size of Nebraska, not a heavily damaged structure that only looks like it was cluster bombed for a few minutes. A:CM is just a fun way to look at the universe in an alternate reality.
If only Gearbox would have said right off the bat that this game was a "what if..." type of game, I think everyone here wouldn't be complaining about it, myself included. Even I didn't complain when the Scarface video game came out because I knew beforehand that it was a "what if" story.
All of the films/stories are "what if" scenarios in their own right. I try to look at A:CM for what it is, a video game from Gearbox. Nothing more, nothing less.
Quote from: Ash 937 on Dec 30, 2012, 11:12:35 PM
Again, you guys are all looking for disappointment if you care to take this story line seriously. It's not relevant to discuss any new Queen or any new hive for that matter unless you conveniently forget that the entire premise of this game goes against the events that we all saw in Aliens. The setting is actually a crater the size of Nebraska, not a heavily damaged structure that only looks like it was cluster bombed for a few minutes. A:CM is just a fun way to look at the universe in an alternate reality.
I'm pretty sure we should wait for the entire story before we go, you know, judging the story. :P
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 31, 2012, 02:37:07 AM
Quote from: Ash 937 on Dec 30, 2012, 11:12:35 PM
Again, you guys are all looking for disappointment if you care to take this story line seriously. It's not relevant to discuss any new Queen or any new hive for that matter unless you conveniently forget that the entire premise of this game goes against the events that we all saw in Aliens. The setting is actually a crater the size of Nebraska, not a heavily damaged structure that only looks like it was cluster bombed for a few minutes. A:CM is just a fun way to look at the universe in an alternate reality.
I'm pretty sure we should wait for the entire story before we go, you know, judging the story. :P
The weak premise, which is something the story line will build off from, is something that has been revealed and dissected by the community for a very long time. A lot of people are disappointed because they understand the inconsistencies that GBX is presenting to them.
I'm actually quite interested in how the story itself will develop...but in order for the game to even have a chance at being enjoyed by those people who nit pick every detail of what has been revealed so far, it should be reminded to them that this is only a game so that they at least give themselves a chance to enjoy it on that level.
I wouldn't necessarily call that a judgement on the story itself.
The problem is that we don't know that the premise is weak, since we don't have the whole story since we haven't actually played the game and experienced it since it's not out yet.
The game won't be enjoyed by people who nit-pick every detail. Gearbox already knows this; they weren't making the game for those people, anyway.
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 31, 2012, 05:33:16 AM
The game won't be enjoyed by people who nit-pick every detail. Gearbox already knows this; they weren't making the game for those people, anyway.
Then why are they gurning about loading the game full of little details for fans to pore over? It would confirm what many suspected: they put more effort and thought into placing Bishop's legs or bringing back Aliens characters than they did into the overarching plot (though people aren't complaining about the overarching plot - they're complaining about the premise: Hadley's Hope surviving the blast. That's as basic as it gets.) I'll reserve my real complaining for after I buy the game <take
that, Gearbox>
QuoteThen why are they gurning about loading the game full of little details for fans to pore over?
Quite.
"Look how authentic it is! Except for all the stuff that demonstrably isn't!!"
Quote from: SM on Dec 31, 2012, 07:05:03 AM
QuoteThen why are they gurning about loading the game full of little details for fans to pore over?
Quite.
"Look how authentic it is! Except for all the stuff that demonstrably isn't!!"
This pretty much nails it.
Look, whatever they said about fans like us is a bull. This game is made for average CoD fan / console gamer, and they're well aware that they're stupid so probably the majority of gamers will swallow whatever bull gearbox concocted. We're marginalized.
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Dec 31, 2012, 10:10:23 AM
Look, whatever they said about fans like us is a bull. This game is made for average CoD fan / console gamer, and they're well aware that they're stupid so probably the majority of gamers will swallow whatever bull gearbox concocted. We're marginalized.
Dude, don't out-pessimise us pessimists! :o
I don't have a problem if they want the game to satisfy a wider range of gamers.That's a natural thing.
Like i said...doesn't have to be an amazing game/story.At least i hope it is a decent one and the story wont be one that will make the alien-universe fans go :o and >:( .I understand it is hard to fully satisfy a hardcore fan but at least don't make him angry with ideas like the suicide aliens and a story with huge plot holes.
I'm mainly confused because of Hicks talking to the camera with the bandage on his head in the trailer, as if he's fine minus the obvious. He was in a weakened state then later out cold when he had a bandage on his head in the movie.
I guess it's apparently fun to fool Ripley.
... pitty sex.
Secondly, I think it's probably just how the trailer was done but I'm getting the vibe these Marines know more about the xenomorphs than the first bunch from the movie did before they even hit the ready line.
Quote from: Crazy Rich on Dec 31, 2012, 01:22:36 PM
I'm mainly confused because of Hicks talking to the camera with the bandage on his head in the trailer, as if he's fine minus the obvious. He was in a weakened state then later out cold when he had a bandage on his head in the movie.
I guess it's apparently fun to fool Ripley.
... pitty sex.
Secondly, I think it's probably just how the trailer was done but I'm getting the vibe these Marines know more about the xenomorphs than the first bunch from the movie did before they even hit the ready line.
Hicks could've easily left information on the recording.
Where are the angry birds aliens, damn it, this game was supposed to be teh cannon! Seriously though, where are they?
Quote from: Gate on Dec 31, 2012, 02:17:31 PM
Quote from: Crazy Rich on Dec 31, 2012, 01:22:36 PM
I'm mainly confused because of Hicks talking to the camera with the bandage on his head in the trailer, as if he's fine minus the obvious. He was in a weakened state then later out cold when he had a bandage on his head in the movie.
I guess it's apparently fun to fool Ripley.
... pitty sex.
Secondly, I think it's probably just how the trailer was done but I'm getting the vibe these Marines know more about the xenomorphs than the first bunch from the movie did before they even hit the ready line.
Hicks could've easily left information on the recording.
I'm not saying he couldn't. I'm discussing the
way he did so. He seemed fine, too fine, in the trailer. While in the movie he was sprayed by fricken acid for blood, feeling the pain of those burns and being tired after such a mission then later out cold. In this trailer he's like "Lol hey what's up".
People are still hung up on the atmospheric processor? :laugh:
Why let something so trivial ruin a potentially fun game? Canon this, canon that, its a video game for the love of space jockey.
Quote from: Predaker on Dec 31, 2012, 02:31:58 PM
People are still hung up on the atmospheric processor? :laugh:
I'm just going with the flow for now on that one. What happens happens.
Quote from: Predaker on Dec 31, 2012, 02:31:58 PM
People are still hung up on the atmospheric processor? :laugh:
Why let something so trivial ruin a potentially fun game? Canon this, canon that, its a video game for the love of space jockey.
*Please no Prometheus, Please no Prometheus, Please no Prometheus*
Please don't ruin the mystery
*Fingers crossed*
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Dec 31, 2012, 10:10:23 AM
Look, whatever they said about fans like us is a bull. This game is made for average CoD fan / console gamer, and they're well aware that they're stupid so probably the majority of gamers will swallow whatever bull gearbox concocted. We're marginalized.
Most of the guys you mentioned don't care about the story at all. They just want to shoot "things" that pop on the screen, it doesn't matter if they are shooting at humans, xenos, zombie... as long as there's shooting all the time - the game is good for these guys.
I think the re-introduction of Hicks into the Alien canon through this game is a great idea on Gearbox's part. As an fan of everything 'Aliens' I was disappointed to see the deaths of both Hicks and Newt in the prologue of 'Alien 3' and later Bishop and Ripley herself before the end of that movie. The graphic novels by Dark Horse in the early nineties had explored the possibilities of a sequel where Ripley, Hicks, Newt and Bishop all survived and had to prevent Weyland-Yutani exploiting the Xenomorphs or attempting a prevention of them building a hive on Earth. Even James Cameron himself suggested that it was a proverbial "slap in the face" to the fans and filmmakers of 'Aliens' by destroying these characters who were so awesome in the previous film. Michael Biehn and Lance Henrikson's involvement as both Hicks and Bishop respectively in 'Colonial Marines' assures great acting quality within the narrative of this upcoming game. Furthermore it shows that after many years the loyalty these actors hold to the fanbase. The Alien series should have by all rights propagated their characters story lines in other feature films years ago and developed their characters in new situations, not kill them off abruptly or at least provide them with a dignified send off. Gearbox in bringing characters back like Hicks will further ground this game in the story of Aliens' whilst providing the majority of fans (and it is a majority) who did not enjoy Alien 3 or Resurrection with a future for the Aliens saga with the characters they identified with.
The guy in the end of Alien 3 was not an android like Bishop, he was Bishop the Human.
Quote from: Crazy Rich on Dec 31, 2012, 02:26:31 PM
I'm not saying he couldn't. I'm discussing the way he did so. He seemed fine, too fine, in the trailer. While in the movie he was sprayed by fricken acid for blood, feeling the pain of those burns and being tired after such a mission then later out cold. In this trailer he's like "Lol hey what's up".
The extreme acid blood was retconned. The xenos blood is still acidic, but it's now been replaced by the equivalent of battery acid. He probably just dipped his face into some sodium hydroxide, popped a couple of vicodin, and sat back watching reruns of MASH while waiting for Ripley to come back. He didn't really pass out so much as fell asleep from the vicodin making him drowsy and watching a show that was about 200 years old, hence why when we saw him he was sleeping. This gave him plenty of energy and time to send out his message. So sayeth Gearbox. ::)
Quote from: Crazy Rich on Dec 31, 2012, 02:33:33 PM
Quote from: Predaker on Dec 31, 2012, 02:31:58 PM
People are still hung up on the atmospheric processor? :laugh:
I'm just going with the flow for now on that one. What happens happens.
Yes, going back to Hadley's Hope is fan wank for sure but it still has plenty of potential to be the best aliens game to date. Negative comparisons to CoD are not justified and rather cynical to make at this point, IMO.
QuoteGearbox in bringing characters back like Hicks will further ground this game in the story of Aliens' whilst providing the majority of fans (and it is a majority) who did not enjoy Alien 3 or Resurrection with a future for the Aliens saga with the characters they identified with.
:laugh:
Now time for the golden dollar question... will A:CM's story surpass AvP 2010?
Quote from: Gate on Dec 31, 2012, 09:15:46 PM
Now time for the golden dollar question... will A:CM's story surpass AvP 2010?
Probably. AvP 2010's story only got me invested when I finished the ending for all the species characters. Great endings in my opinion, too bad the rest of the game was complete and utter shit.
Quote from: ShadowPred on Dec 31, 2012, 09:35:41 PM
Quote from: Gate on Dec 31, 2012, 09:15:46 PM
Now time for the golden dollar question... will A:CM's story surpass AvP 2010?
Probably. AvP 2010's story only got me invested when I finished the ending for all the species characters. Great endings in my opinion, too bad the rest of the game was complete and utter shit.
Complete poop? It only took one screenshot and half a video to tell me that.
The only thing AvP2010 got right was the Marines. Out of all the Alien related material released, combat arms Marines act more like those guys than any other potrayal in Aliens related media.
Quote from: WinterActual on Dec 31, 2012, 05:40:21 PM
The guy in the end of Alien 3 was not an android like Bishop, he was Bishop the Human.
I know that the Bishop (WY suit) at the end was human...possibly. However I was referring to the same Bishop from 'Aliens' who Ripley turns back on in 'Alien' 3 to get information from and then decommissions him.
Quote from: Kimarhi on Dec 31, 2012, 11:19:16 PM
The only thing AvP2010 got right was the Marines. Out of all the Alien related material released, combat arms Marines act more like those guys than any other potrayal in Aliens related media.
The kids got an X-Box for Christmas so I just picked me up a 2nd hand copy of AvP 2010 least week. Not had a chance to play it yet.
Quote from: Kimarhi on Dec 31, 2012, 11:19:16 PM
The only thing AvP2010 got right was the Marines. Out of all the Alien related material released, combat arms Marines act more like those guys than any other potrayal in Aliens related media.
Though Tequila was a nightmare to listen to.
Avp 2010 was good.
Quote from: Corporal Wilks on Jan 01, 2013, 01:26:30 AM
I know that the Bishop (WY suit) at the end was human...possibly. However I was referring to the same Bishop from 'Aliens' who Ripley turns back on in 'Alien' 3 to get information from and then decommissions him.
Oh... ok then! :laugh:
Quote from: MR EL1M1NATOR on Jan 01, 2013, 07:51:29 AM
Avp 2010 was good.
It kinda was, yeah. I think the problem in AvP 2010 was not story wise but the gameplay decisions they've made. But I don't think that ACM' story will be worse than AvP 2010 story. It may be bad if we look at it canonical but as a story it may be pretty good.
Quote from: SM on Dec 31, 2012, 07:05:03 AM
QuoteThen why are they gurning about loading the game full of little details for fans to pore over?
Quite.
"Look how authentic it is! Except for all the stuff that demonstrably isn't!!"
Depends on how you want to define "authentic", I guess. The way I see it, the game looks pretty authentic to me. The tone, the setting, the sounds, the gameplay experience the game aims to put the players through, all of it feels very 'Aliens' to me even if they're taking some (frankly, easy to overlook) liberties with the plot.
They're changing/introducing some things in order to tell the story they want to tell... just like literally every Alien movie has done to date with regard to its predecessors. The sooner people accept that and move on, the happier they'll be I think.
'Alien' had a scary monster that mercilessly stalked the characters, and (in a deleted scene) had a really grotesque and terrifying means of reproduction (and you can't tell me James Cameron wasn't aware of that scene when he wrote 'Aliens') and whoops 'Aliens' changed all that so that he could tell his 'Aliens' story the way he wanted to tell it.
'Aliens' had great characters surviving a harrowing adventure and then whoops 'Alien3' killed them all (2 of them offscreen during the opening credits) so that it could tell the story it wanted to tell.
'Alien3' offered closure for the main character of the franchise, showing that she'd finally beaten the demon that had completely ruined her life, and then whoops 'Alien Resurrection' brought her back from the dead so that it could tell the story it wanted to tell.
This game isn't exactly doing anything that hasn't been done before, storytelling-wise.
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Dec 31, 2012, 10:10:23 AM
Look, whatever they said about fans like us is a bull. This game is made for average CoD fan / console gamer, and they're well aware that they're stupid so probably the majority of gamers will swallow whatever bull gearbox concocted. We're marginalized.
Only the hardcore nitpickiest superfans are marginalized, and frankly rightly so. Like I said, you can't please people like that, and they're not enough of a moneymaking demographic to bother bending over backwards to try and please. This has been true of literally any franchise ever in the history of anything.
However this game appears to get way, way more "right" than it gets wrong, but we'll have to wait and see what the final game is like when it comes out.
QuoteDepends on how you want to define "authentic", I guess.
I'll just go with the normal everyday definition.
Quote from: Kimarhi on Dec 31, 2012, 11:19:16 PM
The only thing AvP2010 got right was the Marines. Out of all the Alien related material released, combat arms Marines act more like those guys than any other potrayal in Aliens related media.
Definitely agree there. I really enjoyed AvP' s Colonial Marines experience but overall, over all 3 campaigns, the story was weak. I'm interested to see where ACM goes.
trailer was AmAZING OMFGOMGOGMOFMOGMOFGGGGGGGGGGGG :00000 :00 :0 :0 :0 :00000 :0 :0 best start to 1/1/2013, or as some may call it...Stardate 66469.1 :P
Quote from: SM on Jan 01, 2013, 11:06:33 AM
QuoteDepends on how you want to define "authentic", I guess.
I'll just go with the normal everyday definition.
Yeah and by that definition, Colonial Marines fits.
I think that Hicks sent that transmission at the time Ripley went back to find Newt. The guy with the bag over his head in the trailer might be Hicks or Hudson managed to get free from the Alien that got him.Over all can't wait any chance of a demo Gearbox.
wierzbowski???????????? was rumors of him before? :-X
Quote from: SuperM on Jan 01, 2013, 09:02:34 PM
wierzbowski???????????? was rumors of him before? :-X
Ding ding ding.
QuoteI think that Hicks sent that transmission at the time Ripley went back to find Newt.
Doesn't look like the dropship in the background.
Hicks was out like a light when they landed back on the Sulaco, so I presume Bishop gave him "something for the pain" straight after Ripley and Hicks exchanged first names. There's just no way Hicks could send a message unless he was woken out of cryo-sleep later.
Quote from: PsyKore on Jan 02, 2013, 05:51:09 AM
Hicks was out like a light when they landed back on the Sulaco, so I presume Bishop gave him "something for the pain" straight after Ripley and Hicks exchanged first names. There's just no way Hicks could send a message unless he was woken out of cryo-sleep later.
His shirt also doesn't match when he was left on the dropship. I agree with you.
Quote from: PsyKore on Jan 02, 2013, 05:51:09 AM
Hicks was out like a light when they landed back on the Sulaco, so I presume Bishop gave him "something for the pain" straight after Ripley and Hicks exchanged first names. There's just no way Hicks could send a message unless he was woken out of cryo-sleep later.
There's an indeterminate amount of time between Ripley dunking the Queen and them going into hypersleep. If Hicks sent a message it was likely then.
Quote from: SM on Jan 02, 2013, 10:51:57 PM
Quote from: PsyKore on Jan 02, 2013, 05:51:09 AM
Hicks was out like a light when they landed back on the Sulaco, so I presume Bishop gave him "something for the pain" straight after Ripley and Hicks exchanged first names. There's just no way Hicks could send a message unless he was woken out of cryo-sleep later.
There's an indeterminate amount of time between Ripley dunking the Queen and them going into hypersleep. If Hicks sent a message it was likely then.
^This.
If it IS Hicks they wake up, I say his storyline is taking place IN-TANDEM with what is occurring on FURY 161.
PERSONALLY, I don't like any of this storyline. Ive always been fine with Hicks being dead, but if they go with the idea that Ripley ends her life to save Earth, and maybe Hicks is awoken and hassled... and then he kills some guy who is up to no good and fakes his death in order to go all DIE HARD and shit and kill off all Company and Aliens onboard the Sulaco, then I guess that's an OK idea. But WHY invent all this shit on HADLEY'S HOPE? Just why?
I just think that with 'HOLLYWOOD WRITERS' they should have come up with some original ideas. Also I have no problem with the 'Egg Mystery,' but if I had to solve it, I would just invent some PROMETHEUS-like connection between Black Goo and Facehugger giz.
Quote from: SM on Jan 02, 2013, 10:51:57 PM
Quote from: PsyKore on Jan 02, 2013, 05:51:09 AM
Hicks was out like a light when they landed back on the Sulaco, so I presume Bishop gave him "something for the pain" straight after Ripley and Hicks exchanged first names. There's just no way Hicks could send a message unless he was woken out of cryo-sleep later.
There's an indeterminate amount of time between Ripley dunking the Queen and them going into hypersleep. If Hicks sent a message it was likely then.
I find it unlikely that he sent that on the Sulaco after the Queen was dropped and before they went to hypersleep. He stated "Consider all Colonial Marines dispatched to LV-426 to be KIA." I'm sure the message is longer in the game, but just based off of what we hear it sounds like he's including himself. If that's the case, and it's between the Queen incident and hypersleep, why would he tell them to consider him KIA as well?
Quote from: Nutlink on Jan 03, 2013, 03:30:54 AM
Quote from: SM on Jan 02, 2013, 10:51:57 PM
Quote from: PsyKore on Jan 02, 2013, 05:51:09 AM
Hicks was out like a light when they landed back on the Sulaco, so I presume Bishop gave him "something for the pain" straight after Ripley and Hicks exchanged first names. There's just no way Hicks could send a message unless he was woken out of cryo-sleep later.
There's an indeterminate amount of time between Ripley dunking the Queen and them going into hypersleep. If Hicks sent a message it was likely then.
I find it unlikely that he sent that on the Sulaco after the Queen was dropped and before they went to hypersleep. He stated "Consider all Colonial Marines dispatched to LV-426 to be KIA." I'm sure the message is longer in the game, but just based off of what we hear it sounds like he's including himself. If that's the case, and it's between the Queen incident and hypersleep, why would he tell them to consider him KIA as well?
From the film, I got the impression that he was unconscious right up to when Ripley and Newt went to sleep as well, but that's not certain I guess. Only reason I assumed that is because you can see he's still knocked out before his hypersleep chamber is closing, so it appeared to me he was in that state for the whole duration on board the Sulaco.
I'm thinking he was woken from hypersleep much later. But I wonder, if he was woken later, if he might have been forced to send that message at gunpoint by someone (whoever woke him up) to discourage more Marines coming. This would fit with the whole "body swap" idea too. I dunno, just guessing.
Quote from: Nutlink on Jan 03, 2013, 03:30:54 AM
Quote from: SM on Jan 02, 2013, 10:51:57 PM
Quote from: PsyKore on Jan 02, 2013, 05:51:09 AM
Hicks was out like a light when they landed back on the Sulaco, so I presume Bishop gave him "something for the pain" straight after Ripley and Hicks exchanged first names. There's just no way Hicks could send a message unless he was woken out of cryo-sleep later.
There's an indeterminate amount of time between Ripley dunking the Queen and them going into hypersleep. If Hicks sent a message it was likely then.
I find it unlikely that he sent that on the Sulaco after the Queen was dropped and before they went to hypersleep. He stated "Consider all Colonial Marines dispatched to LV-426 to be KIA." I'm sure the message is longer in the game, but just based off of what we hear it sounds like he's including himself. If that's the case, and it's between the Queen incident and hypersleep, why would he tell them to consider him KIA as well?
I woulda thought it was obvious that since he's sending the message, he's not including himself.
Logically the only time he could send it was between the Queen fight and the end of the film.
But logic went out the window a long time ago with this storyline, so for all we know he sent it BEFORE Ripley was even found by the salvage team and was in league with the evil Bishop droid all along...
Quote from: SM on Jan 03, 2013, 08:23:37 AM
Quote from: Nutlink on Jan 03, 2013, 03:30:54 AM
Quote from: SM on Jan 02, 2013, 10:51:57 PM
Quote from: PsyKore on Jan 02, 2013, 05:51:09 AM
Hicks was out like a light when they landed back on the Sulaco, so I presume Bishop gave him "something for the pain" straight after Ripley and Hicks exchanged first names. There's just no way Hicks could send a message unless he was woken out of cryo-sleep later.
There's an indeterminate amount of time between Ripley dunking the Queen and them going into hypersleep. If Hicks sent a message it was likely then.
I find it unlikely that he sent that on the Sulaco after the Queen was dropped and before they went to hypersleep. He stated "Consider all Colonial Marines dispatched to LV-426 to be KIA." I'm sure the message is longer in the game, but just based off of what we hear it sounds like he's including himself. If that's the case, and it's between the Queen incident and hypersleep, why would he tell them to consider him KIA as well?
I woulda thought it was obvious that since he's sending the message, he's not including himself.
Logically the only time he could send it was between the Queen fight and the end of the film.
But logic went out the window a long time ago with this storyline, so for all we know he sent it BEFORE Ripley was even found by the salvage team and was in league with the evil Bishop droid all along...
lolol!
Maybe they're pulling a Star Trek and this isn't the prime universe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzlG28B-R8Y# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzlG28B-R8Y#)
Quote from: SM on Jan 03, 2013, 08:23:37 AM
Quote from: Nutlink on Jan 03, 2013, 03:30:54 AM
Quote from: SM on Jan 02, 2013, 10:51:57 PM
Quote from: PsyKore on Jan 02, 2013, 05:51:09 AM
Hicks was out like a light when they landed back on the Sulaco, so I presume Bishop gave him "something for the pain" straight after Ripley and Hicks exchanged first names. There's just no way Hicks could send a message unless he was woken out of cryo-sleep later.
There's an indeterminate amount of time between Ripley dunking the Queen and them going into hypersleep. If Hicks sent a message it was likely then.
I find it unlikely that he sent that on the Sulaco after the Queen was dropped and before they went to hypersleep. He stated "Consider all Colonial Marines dispatched to LV-426 to be KIA." I'm sure the message is longer in the game, but just based off of what we hear it sounds like he's including himself. If that's the case, and it's between the Queen incident and hypersleep, why would he tell them to consider him KIA as well?
I woulda thought it was obvious that since he's sending the message, he's not including himself.
Why wouldn't he be? Perhaps he assumes he's going to die as well.
Quote from: SM on Jan 03, 2013, 08:23:37 AMI woulda thought it was obvious that since he's sending the message, he's not including himself.
Not entirely. He could be assuming that they weren't going to make it and that he was going to die in the explosion if he sent it while Ripley was running off to save Newt. If he sent it between the Queen fight and the end of the film then why would he send it when a rescue team is expected in 17 days and he's on his way home? I'm not sure of the travel time between Earth and LV-426, but assuming he sent a direct message it would take 2 weeks to reach Earth (based on the conversation between Lydecker and Al). If the message was received within 14 days they wouldn't send a rescue team if he was alive. He could have just stated that most of the Marines were KIA and that they were on their way home.
If he planned on having it as a repeating broadcast on the ground, it would most likely be destroyed in the blast. The only thing that would make sense is if he had a broadcaster orbiting the planet. If it WAS something orbiting the planet, don't you think that by the time the fight with the Queen was over they would be too far away from the planet to have a self-powered device send the message far enough to reach a ship around the planet? The message itself doesn't make sense, much less the time frame of which it was recorded.
Quote from: SM on Jan 03, 2013, 08:23:37 AMLogically the only time he could send it was between the Queen fight and the end of the film.
But logic went out the window a long time ago with this storyline, so for all we know he sent it BEFORE Ripley was even found by the salvage team and was in league with the evil Bishop droid all along...
Ha! I kind of just want to play the game to see how they answer these questions, although I'm not expecting anything rational or logical by any means.
Hicks seems alittle too awake in his recording.
Hmm...
Well, I know this is like "Aliens: the game" and so it's supposed to look exactly like Aliens. But, it's bit much even for that. I'm not seeing anything new. Maybe it's just the speculation in this thread, but do we REALLY need another god damn "Weyland-Yutani is evil" plot? I hope that's not what's going on here. I hope something weird happened on the Sulaco that doesn't involve humans. Something creepy and bizarre. I've seen corporate executives try to met a bottom line before, I don't really need that again.
Although, if I'm letting some speculation get to my head, I should say that I think this idea that Hicks is still alive is a little TOO far out there. I love that Alien 3 subverts the goofy hollywood ending of Aliens and just kills everyone. I don't see any good that can come from retconing that, and more over, there doesn't seem to be much of a reason to think Hicks didn't make some sort of a ship log before going into his cryotube. I would think that's kind of what you do. Heck, Ripley did it, and she's not military or anything.
Am I the only one who feels like these guys are sitting on a story that's actually pretty cool and interesting, but the only things they're teasing is all the crap and fat? Like, not so much blind optimism, just that they don't want to spoil any of the really neat stuff, so they just shovel out nonsense like "because of all the radiation" and "let's show you all the stuff from that movie you've already seen?" It just seems like this can't possibly be all there is to it. And not so much just like "why don't they tell us how it ends" but more like "why don't they tell us why I should care."
No, they're definitely just sitting on a wicked awesome jockey-queen boss fight. Something's up... hmmm...
Quote from: 9th_Stew on Jan 03, 2013, 11:39:04 PM
Hicks seems alittle too awake in his recording.
Now I'm wondering if there was something more to him than we thought? Could he just have been bullshitting the whole semi-unconscious thing?
Time for Gearbox to answer.
QuoteNot entirely. He could be assuming that they weren't going to make it and that he was going to die in the explosion if he sent it while Ripley was running off to save Newt.
Possibly. The background of the shot still doesn't look like the dropship though.
But as per previous posts, this proves nothing considering how "authentic" other aspects are.
We'll know soon enough.
QuoteHa! I kind of just want to play the game to see how they answer these questions, although I'm not expecting anything rational or logical by any means.
I just want to shoot Aliens. The story is a load of shit.
Not a graphics whore, but I wish they game looked at least on par with AvP2010. It looks like a PS2 game. I pray the graphics are tighter when the game drops, it won't be as immersive otherwise.
If the gameplay is solid and fun though, I'll forgive the graphics. But hopefully I can have my cake and eat it too.
To be fair graphics aren't the be-all end-all -- I love the old AvP PC game to death and find it immersive and tense as hell, and it's pretty lacking in the graphics department by modern standards.
Then again I also play Wolfenstein3D regularly and still have fun with it, so your mileage may vary I guess.
I personally think the trailer itself looks badass, been watching so much mp footage almost forgot there was a story here lol. The graphics look alright to me, once you get it home and play on your HD 1080p tv its gonna look awesome. I also love the fact they got the original actors to lend their voices to the game. The whole hicks being alive thing dosen't bother me so much, I was pissed that fincher killed him in the 3rd movie to begin with. So if he is still alive then this is a love letter to the fans but this is just my opinion.
Quote from: Enenra on Jan 06, 2013, 02:22:15 AM
Not a graphics whore, but I wish they game looked at least on par with AvP2010. It looks like a PS2 game. I pray the graphics are tighter when the game drops, it won't be as immersive otherwise.
If the gameplay is solid and fun though, I'll forgive the graphics. But hopefully I can have my cake and eat it too.
If you think that those appear like PS2 graphics, I believe you need to get new glasses.
Quote from: Gate on Jan 06, 2013, 08:11:50 PM
Quote from: Enenra on Jan 06, 2013, 02:22:15 AM
Not a graphics whore, but I wish they game looked at least on par with AvP2010. It looks like a PS2 game. I pray the graphics are tighter when the game drops, it won't be as immersive otherwise.
If the gameplay is solid and fun though, I'll forgive the graphics. But hopefully I can have my cake and eat it too.
If you think that those appear like PS2 graphics, I believe you need to get new glasses.
Or you had an amazing PS2
If Hicks is alive, then those bastards at Gearbox are just pissing on a great character, even more so than his death- at the beginning of Alien³. :-\
Quote from: Mr. Runner on Jan 07, 2013, 03:14:11 AM
If Hicks is alive, then those bastards at Gearbox are just pissing on a great character, even more so than his death- at the beginning of Alien³. :-\
So do you want him alive or dead?
Lol, guess who did the voice for Cpl. Hicks!
Spoiler
Michael Biehn 8)
Quote from: Predaker on Jan 07, 2013, 03:32:03 AM
Lol, guess who did the voice for Cpl. Hicks!
Spoiler
Michael Biehn 8)
Ohhhhh yeah 8)
Quote from: Cal427eb on Jan 07, 2013, 03:18:42 AM
Quote from: Mr. Runner on Jan 07, 2013, 03:14:11 AM
If Hicks is alive, then those bastards at Gearbox are just pissing on a great character, even more so than his death- at the beginning of Alien³. :-\
So do you want him alive or dead?
*Slams fist on table* DEAD! It's an insult to magically bring him back in some badly written M. Night Shyamalan Plot-twist. :(
Quote from: Mr. Runner on Jan 07, 2013, 05:38:14 AM
Quote from: Cal427eb on Jan 07, 2013, 03:18:42 AM
Quote from: Mr. Runner on Jan 07, 2013, 03:14:11 AM
If Hicks is alive, then those bastards at Gearbox are just pissing on a great character, even more so than his death- at the beginning of Alien³. :-\
So do you want him alive or dead?
*Slams fist on table* DEAD! It's an insult to magically bring him back in some badly written M. Night Shyamalan Plot-twist. :(
It's just a game though so it doesn't really matter.
Quote from: Mr. Runner on Jan 07, 2013, 05:38:14 AM
*Slams fist on table* DEAD! It's an insult to magically bring him back in some badly written M. Night Shyamalan Plot-twist. :(
Exactly..
Quote from: Cal427eb on Jan 07, 2013, 05:40:50 AM
Quote from: Mr. Runner on Jan 07, 2013, 05:38:14 AM
Quote from: Cal427eb on Jan 07, 2013, 03:18:42 AM
Quote from: Mr. Runner on Jan 07, 2013, 03:14:11 AM
If Hicks is alive, then those bastards at Gearbox are just pissing on a great character, even more so than his death- at the beginning of Alien³. :-\
So do you want him alive or dead?
*Slams fist on table* DEAD! It's an insult to magically bring him back in some badly written M. Night Shyamalan Plot-twist. :(
It's just a game though so it doesn't really matter.
It does when some -arsehole game developers-
who are so far up their own arses- gets the right to mark it as
Canon- hate that frakking word!
Quote from: Mr. Runner on Jan 07, 2013, 06:03:03 AM
Quote from: Cal427eb on Jan 07, 2013, 05:40:50 AM
Quote from: Mr. Runner on Jan 07, 2013, 05:38:14 AM
Quote from: Cal427eb on Jan 07, 2013, 03:18:42 AM
Quote from: Mr. Runner on Jan 07, 2013, 03:14:11 AM
If Hicks is alive, then those bastards at Gearbox are just pissing on a great character, even more so than his death- at the beginning of Alien³. :-\
So do you want him alive or dead?
*Slams fist on table* DEAD! It's an insult to magically bring him back in some badly written M. Night Shyamalan Plot-twist. :(
It's just a game though so it doesn't really matter.
It does when some -arsehole game developers- who are so far up their own arses- gets the right to mark it as Canon- hate that frakking word!
It doesn't matter what they say since they're not the ones who decide cannon
Fox gave them the rights, so sadly it is... Where's the stuff under the sink, so I can kill myself. Sorry, had to throw that in there. :laugh:
Quote from: WinterActual on Jan 07, 2013, 05:55:36 AM
Quote from: Mr. Runner on Jan 07, 2013, 05:38:14 AM
*Slams fist on table* DEAD! It's an insult to magically bring him back in some badly written M. Night Shyamalan Plot-twist. :(
Exactly..
Just like in Unbreakable where it turns out Samuel L Jackson isn't black?
In a franchise where fans freely choose to exclude films - ie. the core source material - from canon, many won't pay the slightest attention to the half arsed nonsense of video game developers, who themselves also exclude source material.
Quote from: SM on Jan 07, 2013, 06:17:05 AM
In a franchise where fans freely choose to exclude films - ie. the core source material - from canon, many won't pay the slightest attention to the half arsed nonsense of video game developers, who themselves also exclude source material.
This.
Quote from: Cal427eb on Jan 07, 2013, 06:19:36 AM
Quote from: SM on Jan 07, 2013, 06:17:05 AM
In a franchise where fans freely choose to exclude films - ie. the core source material - from canon, many won't pay the slightest attention to the half arsed nonsense of video game developers, who themselves also exclude source material.
This.
True. But still...you have this unrelenting knowledge of knowing that no matter how much you say "
I don't believe this happened", it
WILL be part of the whole official...
Canon...frag that word.
Quote from: SM on Jan 07, 2013, 06:17:05 AM
In a franchise where fans freely choose to exclude films - ie. the core source material - from canon, many won't pay the slightest attention to the half arsed nonsense of video game developers, who themselves also exclude source material.
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Only if you're comic book + EU obssessed fratboy...
QuoteTrue. But still...you have this unrelenting knowledge of knowing that no matter how much you say "I don't believe this happened", it WILL be part of the whole official...Canon...frag that word.
And some claim that Fox says ALL EU is canon, despite endless irreconcilable conflicts.
Realistically no one will ever consult this game when developing any future Alien flicks after it's already conflicting with Alien3, Resurrection and the film it's entirely spawned from. ;D
Still i cannot wait for Colonial Marines :)
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Jan 07, 2013, 11:03:37 AM
Only if you're comic book + EU obssessed fratboy...
I... I don't even know how to respond to that, it's so nonsensical.
Quote from: SM on Jan 07, 2013, 12:23:44 PM
QuoteTrue. But still...you have this unrelenting knowledge of knowing that no matter how much you say "I don't believe this happened", it WILL be part of the whole official...Canon...frag that word.
And some claim that Fox says ALL EU is canon, despite endless irreconcilable conflicts.
Realistically no one will ever consult this game when developing any future Alien flicks after it's already conflicting with Alien3, Resurrection and the film it's entirely spawned from. ;D
S'okay, that doesn't mean anything anyway. :)
Keep it civil guys.
to me if it tells a great story worth telling then it doesn't break canon. But if Ripley shows up some where....well. It be broke son.
Quote from: acrediblesource on Jan 08, 2013, 05:26:15 AM
to me if it tells a great story worth telling then it doesn't break canon. But if Ripley shows up some where....well. It be broke son.
I'm almost 100% sure that Ripley won't be in this game.
Quote from: Cal427eb on Jan 08, 2013, 05:11:40 PM
Quote from: acrediblesource on Jan 08, 2013, 05:26:15 AM
to me if it tells a great story worth telling then it doesn't break canon. But if Ripley shows up some where....well. It be broke son.
I'm almost 100% sure that Ripley won't be in this game.
You bet your ass she will during the mission briefing when they show pictures of all the people they're supposed to either find or confirm dead.
Quote from: ShadowPred on Jan 08, 2013, 07:28:02 PM
Quote from: Cal427eb on Jan 08, 2013, 05:11:40 PM
Quote from: acrediblesource on Jan 08, 2013, 05:26:15 AM
to me if it tells a great story worth telling then it doesn't break canon. But if Ripley shows up some where....well. It be broke son.
I'm almost 100% sure that Ripley won't be in this game.
You bet your ass she will during the mission briefing when they show pictures of all the people they're supposed to either find or confirm dead.
They don't have to show a picture. But you can be sure that if they do its not going to look a thing like Suguarny (spll)
I sure hope the pictures, if there's even any, are actual photographs taken of the actors in the movie, if there's leftover still photos or promo shots or whatever, Gearbox should use them.
Quote from: ShadowPred on Jan 08, 2013, 07:28:02 PM
Quote from: Cal427eb on Jan 08, 2013, 05:11:40 PM
Quote from: acrediblesource on Jan 08, 2013, 05:26:15 AM
to me if it tells a great story worth telling then it doesn't break canon. But if Ripley shows up some where....well. It be broke son.
I'm almost 100% sure that Ripley won't be in this game.
You bet your ass she will during the mission briefing when they show pictures of all the people they're supposed to either find or confirm dead.
I didn't mean like that.
I know. ;D
Quote from: ShadowPred on Jan 08, 2013, 08:26:22 PM
I know. ;D
Oh, lol ok. I thought you were being serious and it made me feel kinda sad. :laugh:
Quote from: Cal427eb on Jan 08, 2013, 05:11:40 PM
Quote from: acrediblesource on Jan 08, 2013, 05:26:15 AM
to me if it tells a great story worth telling then it doesn't break canon. But if Ripley shows up some where....well. It be broke son.
I'm almost 100% sure that Ripley won't be in this game.
The fact you had to say "almost" speaks volumes about how much faith there is in Gearbox's story writing abilities. ;D
I'm still buying this game.
Spoiler
Leave me alone. ;-;
Quote from: Aspie on Jan 09, 2013, 12:20:02 AM
I'm still buying this game.
Spoiler
Leave me alone. ;-;
I'll actually have this game be the first one I play with you. X-Box, right?
Quote from: SM on Jan 09, 2013, 12:16:06 AM
Quote from: Cal427eb on Jan 08, 2013, 05:11:40 PM
Quote from: acrediblesource on Jan 08, 2013, 05:26:15 AM
to me if it tells a great story worth telling then it doesn't break canon. But if Ripley shows up some where....well. It be broke son.
I'm almost 100% sure that Ripley won't be in this game.
The fact you had to say "almost" speaks volumes about how much faith there is in Gearbox's story writing abilities. ;D
Well... You never know ;D
Quote from: ShadowPred on Jan 09, 2013, 12:23:12 AM
Quote from: Aspie on Jan 09, 2013, 12:20:02 AM
I'm still buying this game.
Spoiler
Leave me alone. ;-;
I'll actually have this game be the first one I play with you. X-Box, right?
Yep! ;D
Once that game comes out, send me a friend request. I'll hopefully be there with A:CM in hand.
Quote from: ShadowPred on Jan 09, 2013, 01:34:31 AM
Once that game comes out, send me a friend request. I'll hopefully be there with A:CM in hand.
Will do man. :)
I apologize in advance for going off topic but since I went trough a couple statements concerning the cannon I had to get involved. I for one love the Alien quadrilogy+Predator1/2 (with a few nitpicks here and there), consider the first AvP movie as generic at best, dismiss the existence of the sequel which is an abomination, feel disappointed by Prometheus and find Predators for a descent but unmemorable feature. I can't comment on any other source material like the Dark Horse comic series or any AvP/Alien based literature.
Quote from: ShadowPred on Jan 09, 2013, 01:34:31 AM
Once that game comes out, send me a friend request. I'll hopefully be there with A:CM in hand.
If amma play this... might as well do it with galaxy folk. Yo dawg hook me up wid dat shyt
Quote from: Aspie on Jan 09, 2013, 01:38:05 AM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Jan 09, 2013, 01:34:31 AM
Once that game comes out, send me a friend request. I'll hopefully be there with A:CM in hand.
Will do man. :)
Wait, Aspie, you have Live?
Goddamn! I want this game to be good soooo bad.
Just thought I'd share that.
Quote from: Spaghetti on Jan 09, 2013, 08:02:36 AM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Jan 09, 2013, 01:34:31 AM
Once that game comes out, send me a friend request. I'll hopefully be there with A:CM in hand.
If amma play this... might as well do it with galaxy folk. Yo dawg hook me up wid dat shyt
Superbombad
Did anyone notice Cruz announce himself as Captain (@ 00:20) when his Profile has him as a Lieutenant (maybe he gets promoted as the story progresses or gearbox error)
Character Descriptions
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=46347.0 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=46347.0)
I think its more likely to be a GBX error of making him Lt at first but later on finding out that there's a higher ranked char who is getting orders from Cruz so they decided to promote Cruz instead of demoting the other char. No matter whats the case, I don't care much since Cruz is going to die :laugh:
I'll have to choose between ACM, Dead Space 3, and GTA5. God damn it.
hard decision i know u already know that DS and GTA is awesome but....u already played them u know they are the "same"
but ACM is something new but u cant be sure is it any good
this story will end up like "its worse then avp2010" :P
well at least we can visit the sulaco, hadley, derelict and even more :) this is what this game is all about
Quote from: szkoki on Jan 14, 2013, 01:36:56 PM
hard decision i know u already know that DS and GTA is awesome but....u already played them u know they are the "same"
but ACM is something new but u cant be sure is it any good
this story will end up like "its worse then avp2010" :P
well at least we can visit the sulaco, hadley, derelict and even more :) this is what this game is all about
That's just like saying any third person game is the same. I could say that A:CM will be Call of Duty in Space.
For those that say the graphics are bad or could be better. Don't forget that whatever video program they used it needs to render the video it probably didn't render all of its potential
Quote from: Gate on Jan 14, 2013, 12:50:27 PM
I'll have to choose between ACM, Dead Space 3, and GTA5. God damn it.
Y U No save more money and buy 'em all.
Quote from: alanwu1233 on Jan 25, 2013, 09:14:30 PM
Quote from: Gate on Jan 14, 2013, 12:50:27 PM
I'll have to choose between ACM, Dead Space 3, and GTA5. God damn it.
Y U No save more money and buy 'em all.
Cause wez be poor... :'(