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Title: Why did the Engineer stay in stasis instead of taking off?
Post by: TomBrad123 on Oct 03, 2021, 01:21:44 PM
In Prometheus the Engineer is in stasis but was going to take off to Earth when the outbreak occurred.   Why did he stay in stasis for 2000 years?  What was he waiting for?

Also why were all the Engineers running in the holographic playback?  From a deacon?  But they all appeared to have exploded from within when piled against the door.  Would Holloway have also exploded?
Title: Re: Why did the Engineer stay in stasis instead of taking off?
Post by: RhubarbLeaves on Oct 03, 2021, 07:13:39 PM
Not sure about the running Engineers but I'm pretty sure the implication was that the Engineer was in stasis too long by accident. There was presumably an issue with the ship and since everyone else was dead nobody fixed it.

I've always thought Prometheus would be a little better if the outbreak was a bigger part of the plot and the characters manage to solve what happened.
Title: Re: Why did the Engineer stay in stasis instead of taking off?
Post by: Kradan on Oct 03, 2021, 07:52:42 PM
Quote from: RhubarbLeaves on Oct 03, 2021, 07:13:39 PM
I've always thought Prometheus would be a little better if the outbreak was a bigger part of the plot and the characters manage to solve what happened.

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Title: Re: Why did the Engineer stay in stasis instead of taking off?
Post by: SiL on Oct 03, 2021, 08:11:48 PM
...I mean, it was in stasis. It can't wake up without outside help and everyone else was dead. It didn't really have a choice.
Title: Re: Why did the Engineer stay in stasis instead of taking off?
Post by: [cancerblack] on Oct 03, 2021, 08:21:32 PM
Quote from: SiL on Oct 03, 2021, 08:11:48 PM
...I mean, it was in stasis. It can't wake up without outside help and everyone else was dead. It didn't really have a choice.

That seems like a flawed method of stasis if all four crew were supposed to sleep while in transit. There'd have to be a timer that either wasn't set, failed to activate or was set for longer than 2k years.
Title: Re: Why did the Engineer stay in stasis instead of taking off?
Post by: SiL on Oct 03, 2021, 08:24:17 PM
My guess would be fail to activate, as we see them preparing for hypersleep. Or The engineers who were supposed to set it died before they could - but then why would you go to sleep before that was set?
Title: Re: Why did the Engineer stay in stasis instead of taking off?
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Oct 04, 2021, 01:44:37 PM
Because it is a poor movie with poor writing  ;D
Title: Re: Why did the Engineer stay in stasis instead of taking off?
Post by: markweatherill on Oct 04, 2021, 02:35:55 PM
My theory is that he was very grumpy, so the others sent him into stasis and told him he'd darn well better be in a happier mood when he woke up.
Title: Re: Why did the Engineer stay in stasis instead of taking off?
Post by: The Necronoir on Oct 04, 2021, 03:57:42 PM
We see three other pods around the dais as well, all with conspicuous holes punched in them around the chest/upper body area. My theory is that all four crew attempted to enter stasis as a means to escape the outbreak, which was already taking place. Three of them must have been infected before going in though, and either "burst" or gave birth to something while in the pods, perhaps years or centuries afterward, due to the slowing down of their metabolisms. Our boy was just lucky enough not to have been infected before he went into stasis.

It would explain why he wasn't woken after a pre-set time as well, either as an automated safety mechanism, or deliberately. You couldn't be sure what you'd wake up to, so safer to remain dormant indefinitely and hope that someone came to investigate and revive you once the outbreak was contained. For whatever reason, it seems nobody came, and even then the prospect of dying unconscious in stasis after thousands of years would have to be preferable to the alternative.

As for what the engineers in the hologram were running from, while it's tempting to believe that it might be a creature or creatures of some sort, I think it's more likely to have just been a cloud of airborne pathogen, like we see in Covenant. It seems that exposure to higher concentrations results in explosive mutations that kill the target within moments (like the decapitated head), while smaller doses result in a more gradual change, even into semi-sustainable organisms (think Fifield and whatever metamorphosis Holloway was undergoing).
Title: Re: Why did the Engineer stay in stasis instead of taking off?
Post by: TomBrad123 on Oct 05, 2021, 07:50:23 PM
Quote from: The Necronoir on Oct 04, 2021, 03:57:42 PM
We see three other pods around the dais as well, all with conspicuous holes punched in them around the chest/upper body area. My theory is that all four crew attempted to enter stasis as a means to escape the outbreak, which was already taking place. Three of them must have been infected before going in though, and either "burst" or gave birth to something while in the pods, perhaps years or centuries afterward, due to the slowing down of their metabolisms. Our boy was just lucky enough not to have been infected before he went into stasis.

It would explain why he wasn't woken after a pre-set time as well, either as an automated safety mechanism, or deliberately. You couldn't be sure what you'd wake up to, so safer to remain dormant indefinitely and hope that someone came to investigate and revive you once the outbreak was contained. For whatever reason, it seems nobody came, and even then the prospect of dying unconscious in stasis after thousands of years would have to be preferable to the alternative.

As for what the engineers in the hologram were running from, while it's tempting to believe that it might be a creature or creatures of some sort, I think it's more likely to have just been a cloud of airborne pathogen, like we see in Covenant. It seems that exposure to higher concentrations results in explosive mutations that kill the target within moments (like the decapitated head), while smaller doses result in a more gradual change, even into semi-sustainable organisms (think Fifield and whatever metamorphosis Holloway was undergoing).

Thanks, that interpretation makes sense.

Another thing, was the Engineer still alive when the Deacon burst out of him?  When I saw the film the first time I thought he was already dead, but on a recent rewatch, I think he might still have been alive (and realising that due to his failure the pathogen was going to be released on his home planet).

I think Prometheus was novelized in Japan.  It would be interesting to see a translation of the book.
Title: Re: Why did the Engineer stay in stasis instead of taking off?
Post by: David_4004 on Oct 07, 2021, 07:36:49 AM
Quote from: SiL on Oct 03, 2021, 08:24:17 PM
My guess would be fail to activate, as we see them preparing for hypersleep. Or The engineers who were supposed to set it died before they could - but then why would you go to sleep before that was set?

I believe the cryostasis engineer had been killed before he set up the cryostasis duration for the other engineers. So, they slept indefinitely.

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Title: Re: Why did the Engineer stay in stasis instead of taking off?
Post by: Stitch on Oct 07, 2021, 06:29:07 PM
Quote from: TomBrad123 on Oct 05, 2021, 07:50:23 PM
I think Prometheus was novelized in Japan.  It would be interesting to see a translation of the book.
Check out studio yutani, they've done a translation.
Title: Re: Why did the Engineer stay in stasis instead of taking off?
Post by: 426Buddy on Oct 07, 2021, 06:42:34 PM
I like the title of the thread, written in the format of a joke lol :laugh:

Why did the engineer cross the road?
Title: Re: Why did the Engineer stay in stasis instead of taking off?
Post by: [cancerblack] on Oct 07, 2021, 07:54:21 PM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Oct 07, 2021, 06:42:34 PM
I like the title of the thread, written in the format of a joke lol :laugh:

Why did the engineer cross the road?

To get decapitated by a door.
Title: Re: Why did the Engineer stay in stasis instead of taking off?
Post by: Wweyland on Oct 09, 2021, 07:03:19 PM
He was very tired. I can relate to this because I often feel like sleeping for 2000 years.
Title: Re: Why did the Engineer stay in stasis instead of taking off?
Post by: Stitch on Oct 10, 2021, 11:47:47 AM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Oct 07, 2021, 07:54:21 PM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Oct 07, 2021, 06:42:34 PM
I like the title of the thread, written in the format of a joke lol :laugh:

Why did the engineer cross the road?

To get decapitated by a door.
If both chickens and engineers cross roads, do engineers run around when they're headless as well?
Title: Re: Why did the Engineer stay in stasis instead of taking off?
Post by: Kradan on Oct 10, 2021, 11:51:51 AM
Well, since they were able to revive Engineer's had back on Prometheus I can't see why the lower part wouldn't be able to have a little adventure of its own
Title: Re: Why did the Engineer stay in stasis instead of taking off?
Post by: EJA on Jan 11, 2022, 04:41:46 PM
Nothing in these movies makes any kind of sense; they're laughable.
Title: Re: Why did the Engineer stay in stasis instead of taking off?
Post by: oduodu on Jan 11, 2022, 06:35:35 PM
basically a lot of stuff that happened 2000 years prior to the weyland crew visiting lv 223 was written very deliberately to not make sense. lindelof is very good at this while keeping people interested. hence the series lost. i also like to speculate and its a great way to spend your time. but don't be expecting too much to find in the way of things making sense. the alien engineer script (the one before the shooting script) written by jon spaihts is worth a read and makes a lot more sense.

anyways have fun. just my 2 cents

Title: Re: Why did the Engineer stay in stasis instead of taking off?
Post by: City Hunter Yautja on Jan 12, 2022, 02:46:56 AM
It is possible the Engineer was put in stasis as a form of punishment, to neutralize him because he was part of giants wanting to wipe out homosapians. Of course that's with the interpretation that there were two sects of Engineers.
Title: Re: Why did the Engineer stay in stasis instead of taking off?
Post by: [cancerblack] on Jan 12, 2022, 07:19:32 AM
I like the idea of two or more factions within the Engineer species but no, I don't think that's useful in regards to this question.
Title: Re: Why did the Engineer stay in stasis instead of taking off?
Post by: SiL on Jan 12, 2022, 07:24:33 AM
Yeah, the movie made it pretty clear they put themselves to sleep.
Title: Re: Why did the Engineer stay in stasis instead of taking off?
Post by: City Hunter Yautja on Jan 12, 2022, 07:29:41 AM
Probably his stasis was suppose to end when they arrived at earth. I imagine what happened is  the Black Goo infected crew and everything went haywire like we see with one who decapitates himself. Thus the Derelict was unable to take off due to an emergency that we see the holograms and bodies representing.
Title: Re: Why did the Engineer stay in stasis instead of taking off?
Post by: EJA on Jan 12, 2022, 05:35:19 PM
Quote from: oduodu on Jan 11, 2022, 06:35:35 PM
basically a lot of stuff that happened 2000 years prior to the weyland crew visiting lv 223 was written very deliberately to not make sense. lindelof is very good at this while keeping people interested. hence the series lost. i also like to speculate and its a great way to spend your time. but don't be expecting too much to find in the way of things making sense. the alien engineer script (the one before the shooting script) written by jon spaihts is worth a read and makes a lot more sense.

anyways have fun. just my 2 cents

Hang on, he also wrote Lost??
Title: Re: Why did the Engineer stay in stasis instead of taking off?
Post by: Kradan on Jan 12, 2022, 06:05:03 PM
It's a commonly known fact, yes
Title: Re: Why did the Engineer stay in stasis instead of taking off?
Post by: acrediblesource on Jan 15, 2022, 11:52:57 PM
Why do vampires sleep. To stay eternal. Why were the engineers stacked on top of each other. Because they got infected by something. Why do engineers do stuff? 


Why do you  need to ask such existential questions about  things we already know nothing about?
Because: Boredom.
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Title: Re: Why did the Engineer stay in stasis instead of taking off?
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Jan 28, 2022, 07:33:20 PM
Since Ridley told us they grow wheat, imagine the delicious breads they make! 😍

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Let alone the freaking amazing sandwiches 😋

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Title: Re: Why did the Engineer stay in stasis instead of taking off?
Post by: Kradan on Jan 28, 2022, 08:46:00 PM
After all, Derelict is just a giant croissant
Title: Re: Why did the Engineer stay in stasis instead of taking off?
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Jan 28, 2022, 10:50:34 PM
This is getting me hungry  :laugh:
Title: Re: Why did the Engineer stay in stasis instead of taking off?
Post by: City Hunter Yautja on Apr 01, 2022, 09:58:18 PM
Most likely the stasis Engineer was a back up, kept asleep in case everything "went to pot."
Another possibility is the Stasis Engineer  pit himself in stasis to avoid the outbreak.