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Posted by SiL
 - Jan 11, 2018, 07:50:26 AM
Some were, but as a whole the film was far from predictable.
Posted by Gash
 - Jan 11, 2018, 07:28:31 AM
Quote from: SM on Jan 11, 2018, 07:23:21 AM
I didn't find Last Jedi at all predictable.

Fair enough, it seems to have gone in a direction that some fans didn't want, so I guess that's a positive in terns of subverting expectation, but I thought certain big scenes were too reminiscent of original trilogy set pieces.
Posted by SM
 - Jan 11, 2018, 07:23:21 AM
I didn't find Last Jedi at all predictable.
Posted by Gash
 - Jan 11, 2018, 06:48:04 AM
Quote from: darkvegett0 on Jan 07, 2018, 03:48:09 AM
AC and Prometheus aren't that different they both suffer from the same issues.its like some of you don't see or understand that. They both are terrible movies putting xenos in a bad movie still equals a bad movie. Maybe Disney should take over because the star war movies are actually pretty well written.

I personally prefer the writing of Prometheus and Alien:Covenant. Disney's approach to Star Wars has been perfectly watchable but pretty predictable and the callbacks and references are a little too obvious - far moreso than the last ten minutes of Covenant.
Posted by darkvegett0
 - Jan 07, 2018, 03:48:09 AM
AC and Prometheus aren't that different they both suffer from the same issues.its like some of you don't see or understand that. They both are terrible movies putting xenos in a bad movie still equals a bad movie. Maybe Disney should take over because the star war movies are actually pretty well written.
Posted by Huggs
 - Jan 04, 2018, 05:06:14 AM
Haha! ;D


No biggie Biomechanoid.

And Alionic, C'mon man. I was just talking about a higher level of quality. If quality now equals "nostalgia", then yes, let's get "nostalgic". And furthermore, I happen to pride myself on being a technologically ignorant doom and gloomer dude kind of dude. Although I like to think of it as more of a manly kind of realistic yet rugged retro dudeliness.  8)
Posted by Biomechanoid
 - Jan 04, 2018, 03:51:13 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 04, 2018, 01:34:29 AM
Bio,

I'll have you know Herbert and Frederick are extremely interesting personalities, and I'll thank you to leave them out of it. As for this quote button, I'm not seein' anything here. Signal's clean.

I was just funin', you made it clear what you were quoting and what was your own comment, though who you quote I don't bother to flip through previous pages to see who you are quoting.

I just assume by default you're always quoting Alionic since the odds are good it's his motor mouth that you're quoting. . . . ;)
Posted by Huggs
 - Jan 04, 2018, 01:34:29 AM
Bio,

I'll have you know Herbert and Frederick are extremely interesting personalities, and I'll thank you to leave them out of it. As for this quote button, I'm not seein' anything here. Signal's clean.
Posted by Alionic
 - Jan 04, 2018, 12:45:29 AM
"Ahh! Well now I feel foolish for not catching that. I wondered why he was always having conversations with himself."

I'm always happy to help the technologically ignorant.  ;D
Posted by Biomechanoid
 - Jan 04, 2018, 12:34:34 AM
Quote from: Alionic on Jan 03, 2018, 11:48:23 PM
And there's a button for quoting posts, dude.
Ahh! Well now I feel foolish for not catching that. I wondered why he was always having conversations with himself.
Posted by Scorpio
 - Jan 04, 2018, 12:04:26 AM
Yeah Disney is going to 'Force Awakens' Alien and the fans are going to love it.
Posted by Alionic
 - Jan 03, 2018, 11:48:23 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 03, 2018, 09:46:39 PM
I do hope I get to see an actual Alien film of the older quality at some point in my lifetime though, but I'm not getting my hopes up anymore.

Disney is going to put out your nostalgia Alien film within five years, guaranteed. Calm down with the doom and gloom.

And there's a button for quoting posts, dude.
Posted by Perfect-Organism
 - Jan 03, 2018, 11:48:15 PM
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Jan 03, 2018, 07:00:29 PM
Whatever happened to just wanting a good entry no matter who it came from and where in the timeline it fits.

I agree that a good entry regardless of where it came from or where it fits in the timeline is a desirable thing.  However there are certain actors who have been st the core of the best moments of the series whose days in the industry are regrettably becoming few with the merciless march of time.  If ever there is to be another film with these talented actors, the time for that is now.  There is plenty of time for other films, won't you agree?
Posted by Huggs
 - Jan 03, 2018, 09:46:39 PM
"I still think that Scott can make an amazing Alien movie, he just needs a good writer who.....has a backbone strong enough to tell Scott when one of his ideas isn't that great or unique"

In other words, someone who's not afraid to get fired and blackballed?  ;D In all seriousness, no disrespect to Mr. Scott, but he doesn't strike me as the kind of director who will take criticism very well at this stage of his career. Perhaps he thinks that he has made enough successful films and money to know perfectly well what is the best way to proceed all on his own. I don't see Ridley compromising his vision in the future.


"Whatever happened to just wanting a good entry no matter who it came from and where in the timeline it fits."

I can't say with any degree of certainty, but it most likely went the way of Xbox VS PlayStation, Ford vs Chevy, ect. ect. The prequels have created a new level of division. Those that like them, feel we're on the right track. Those that dislike them, feel we've lost years of potentially good Alien films, and the future remains bleak. Regardless of where one lands in that debate, it seems unrealistic to expect we'll ever see a film like the first two again, where they were significantly different in tone and style from each other, yet still managed to deliver a positive experience for a large portion of the fans. Whatever happens from here, it's just out of our hands.

I do hope I get to see an actual Alien film of the older quality at some point in my lifetime though, but I'm not getting my hopes up anymore. And I do think it would be good form to let somebody else make the kind of Alien film for the fans who don't like the prequels. There should be alittle something for everyone at the table.
Posted by BishopShouldGo
 - Jan 03, 2018, 07:00:29 PM
Whatever happened to just wanting a good entry no matter who it came from and where in the timeline it fits.
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