Engineering Prometheus – From Jon Spaihts to Damon Lindelof

Started by Corporal Hicks, May 06, 2016, 02:31:57 PM

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BishopShouldGo

Well throughout the whole film you have this twisted family tree creating and mixing, David with the goo to Holloway to Shaw to trilobite to engineer to deacon. The point was that everybody had a hand in making that thing, and that there is human DNA in what we have come to know as the xenomorph. You don't need to see it doing anything else other than being born. It's an alien born from an engineer, just like the runner was an alien born from a dog, or Big Chap was an alien born from a human.

Fitting. Beautiful. Poetic. Even the screech was amazing. In fact, the last thing it felt was tacked on. It was building up to that the entire movie.

Corporal Hicks

It was a convoluted path that insinuated it took a lot of random occurrences to get to something Alien-like. I understand and appreciate the intent but don't dig how it was included in the film.

OpenMaw

Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Jan 06, 2017, 11:08:56 AM
Well throughout the whole film you have this twisted family tree creating and mixing, David with the goo to Holloway to Shaw to trilobite to engineer to deacon. The point was that everybody had a hand in making that thing, and that there is human DNA in what we have come to know as the xenomorph. You don't need to see it doing anything else other than being born. It's an alien born from an engineer, just like the runner was an alien born from a dog, or Big Chap was an alien born from a human.

The key difference is we actually to 'know' those creatures. Imagine if Alien 3 ended right after Spike birthed?

Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Jan 06, 2017, 11:08:56 AM
Fitting. Beautiful. Poetic. Even the screech was amazing. In fact, the last thing it felt was tacked on. It was building up to that the entire movie.

Really? It was? It seemed like it basically came out of left-field. Goo = Cum baby squid + Engineer =  blue-man reject xeno. Kay.

What did that teach me, exactly? If you throw a bunch of random crap together you get an inbred with overbite?


426Buddy

Im glad they aren't focusing on Shaw and David adventuring around space. I appreciate a return to a more alien type film as it was originally intended and nothing makes me happier than them pivoting away from prometheus a bit.

The deacon just looked supremely stupid and it felt tacked on and pointless.

𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯

Quote from: HuDaFuK on Jan 06, 2017, 11:01:44 AM
That was in fact it's purpose in Spaihts' original script.

They cut the entire final confrontation, but left the birth in there just so they could have something pop out of someone's chest. Why even bother if it's not going to do anything? It's pointless pandering.

Agreed.

It wasn't even a "deacon" in Spaithts script, it was a full-blown "UltraMorph", a proper "Alien" born of a Space Jockey/Engineer. And at least they had an actual "boss fight" at the end even though I felt it was a little tacky in execution. But the point is, the monster actually served a purpose in the earlier scripts.

Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Jan 06, 2017, 09:20:29 AM
Yeah, Damon was the only one who "got it", as Fox had sent "Alien: Zero" out to many writers.

Yup, he's right up there with Mikey Neumann.

Corporal Hicks


The_Nostromo_Files

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 31, 2021, 02:25:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sUTB8UIJBI
Nicely done, Hicks. That's a long piece with lots of tricky detail, but kept on point throughout. And the video lines are da bomb.

Immortan Jonesy

Amazing video Hicks. Can't wait for the next one.  8)

oduodu

ty corporal. nice video

Baron Von Marlon

Saw it yesterday. Great stuff.

Man, I'd love to read all those drafts!

BlueMarsalis79


Corporal Hicks

Quote from: Baron Von Marlon on Apr 05, 2021, 09:22:02 PM
Saw it yesterday. Great stuff.

Man, I'd love to read all those drafts!

We've got 2 of Spaihts' and one of Lindelof's in our downloads section.

Downloads section: https://www.avpgalaxy.net/downloads/
Alien: Engineers Script: https://www.avpgalaxy.net/files/scripts/script-alien-engineers-spaihts.pdf
Alien 01: Genesis Script: https://www.avpgalaxy.net/files/scripts/alien-01-genesis-09072010.pdf
Prometheus Script: https://www.avpgalaxy.net/files/scripts/script-paradise-lindelof.pdf

And thanks everyone.  :)

HuDaFuK

I've still not read the Genesis one. Does it differ all that much from Engineers?

Corporal Hicks

Mostly just the setup sequences from what I remember.

Baron Von Marlon

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 07, 2021, 08:19:09 AM
Quote from: Baron Von Marlon on Apr 05, 2021, 09:22:02 PM
Saw it yesterday. Great stuff.

Man, I'd love to read all those drafts!

We've got 2 of Spaihts' and one of Lindelof's in our downloads section.

Downloads section: https://www.avpgalaxy.net/downloads/
Alien: Engineers Script: https://www.avpgalaxy.net/files/scripts/script-alien-engineers-spaihts.pdf
Alien 01: Genesis Script: https://www.avpgalaxy.net/files/scripts/alien-01-genesis-09072010.pdf
Prometheus Script: https://www.avpgalaxy.net/files/scripts/script-paradise-lindelof.pdf

And thanks everyone.  :)

Thanks but I already read those :)

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