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Title: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: ace3g on Apr 07, 2018, 02:54:30 PM
Embargo for set-visits usually lift 2-3 months prior to film release (currently 5 months out).

Quote from: ace3g on Apr 06, 2017, 12:20:54 AM
They are allowing set-visits (guy is editer chief for JoBlo)  should get some interesting articles once embargo lifts.

https://twitter.com/arcticninjapaul/status/849712966610157569

*changed title. Hicks.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: ace3g on May 10, 2018, 11:54:32 PM
https://twitter.com/joblocom/status/994708083883593728


These elements have mostly been kept a secret, but when I was on the set of The Predator last year, Boyd Holbrook admitted to one of the blockbuster's connections while talking about his character's reaction to meeting an alien:

Spoiler
QuoteI've seen something, and maybe there is a familiarity. I wouldn't want to say that he's a UFO conspiracy theorist, but he's heard of things and seen things, and that may be a reference to the original. So that's the reference to the original, which we are of keeping in lineage.
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https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2418141/one-key-way-the-predator-will-link-back-to-the-original-according-to-boyd-holbrook
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 11, 2018, 07:57:06 AM
Thanks for these 2, ace. Gonna give these a read over and post shortly. I've got a feeling a lot of these might get lost within all the trailer posts.


Just checked the other big outlets and seems no-one else has released yet.


I'm about halfway through Black's interview on JoBlo and I'm just f**king in love with him now. He's on my wavelength. The Predator story has a huge amount of versatility and making use of it.

"It's the ambitiousness of not wanting to stay small and just wanting to pack as many different possibilities."

Him wanting to take the Predator's up against people who aren't this image of perfection based on "physical appearance and muscles."

Yeah...Shane I was a little apprehensive about how some of the more controversial aspects were going to be handled but damn, you've got me now. Complete faith.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: marrerom on May 11, 2018, 12:33:51 PM
This trailer was great. I really like the tone, characters, and direction that Shane is taking this film in. I always had high hopes for this movie ever since I heard he was attracted to write and direct (Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, Ironman 3, and The Nice Guys were excellent movies). His explanation for the super predators we saw in Predators is cool and expands the mythology in a way that subverted my expectations. I seriously can't wait to see this thing.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Lionhart on May 11, 2018, 12:46:12 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 11, 2018, 07:57:06 AM
Thanks for these 2, ace. Gonna give these a read over and post shortly. I've got a feeling a lot of these might get lost within all the trailer posts.


Just checked the other big outlets and seems no-one else has released yet.


I'm about halfway through Black's interview on JoBlo and I'm just f**king in love with him now. He's on my wavelength. The Predator story has a huge amount of versatility and making use of it.

"It's the ambitiousness of not wanting to stay small and just wanting to pack as many different possibilities."

Him wanting to take the Predator's up against people who aren't this image of perfection based on "physical appearance and muscles."

Yeah...Shane I was a little apprehensive about how some of the more controversial aspects were going to be handled but damn, you've got me now. Complete faith.

Just read the whole thing and I must admit, that got me f**king excited
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: skull-splitter on May 11, 2018, 01:06:05 PM
My hopes are slowly recovering. I wont like certain elements, but probably will be entertained and hopefully this film sets up a future for the franchise.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: azamultic on May 11, 2018, 01:44:47 PM
Oh maaan, I want more) I want to see more trailers and read more stuff about the movie(not script of course). Can't wait for Semptember!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: JungleHunter87 on May 11, 2018, 02:00:06 PM
I really dig where Shane is coming at this from. It's funny, but the man has a way of assuaging any fears by just explaining his method.

Unlike most people on here, I haven't expected this film to be a disaster. But, I did have reservations about a couple ideas here and there. Now though? After reading about Shane's thought process on this film?

I feel like even if the movie doesn't live up to the unrealistically high expectations, that many fans have for it. That it will still end up being a solid entry in the PREDATOR franchise.

September can't come soon enough!
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on May 11, 2018, 02:47:22 PM
Is it me or is he hinting at a possible budget of 100 million, saying that they could have half of the budget of Iron Man 3 ?
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Lionhart on May 11, 2018, 02:53:10 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 11, 2018, 02:47:22 PM
Is it me or is he hinting at a possible budget of 100 million, saying that they could have half of the budget of Iron Man 3 ?

I belive so. So that means it's bigger then avp 70 mill, avpr 40 mill predators 40 mill
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on May 11, 2018, 02:55:08 PM
Yeah that's really good, way more than we've had before if that turns out to be true  :)
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Wysps on May 11, 2018, 02:55:18 PM
That was an awesome interview.  It definitely showed the respect that Shane has for the franchise.  If the material ends up not playing over well, we can at least be assured that he did put a lot of thought and heart into the movie.  He went into it with his best, and I can totally respect that. 

"The government is involved in this and it takes it to the level of what happens when The Predator strikes, these incursions are not just a every-once-in-a-while phenomenon known to a few, but have come to the attention of an establishment that is actually set on preparing for and marshaling forces against these incoming Predator strikes." ... "And also, what happens when the Predators get a little more ambitious. Maybe it's not just a weekend anymore."

Love this.  Definitely a good foundation for future films. 

Quote from: skull-splitter on May 11, 2018, 01:06:05 PM
My hopes are slowly recovering. I wont like certain elements, but probably will be entertained and hopefully this film sets up a future for the franchise.

My thoughts exactly  :)


Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Lionhart on May 11, 2018, 02:59:16 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 11, 2018, 02:55:08 PM
Yeah that's really good, way more than we've had before if that turns out to be true  :)

Time will tell my friend
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Cooler on May 11, 2018, 04:26:18 PM
All these internet trolls dissing on this trailer, saying it will be worse than AvPR and all that nonsense, I doubt they have actually seen a Shane Black movie before...
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: azamultic on May 11, 2018, 06:05:44 PM
So happy to see that people getting a little bit more friendly to this movie!  :)
I also think it's in some way good that this movie while in production already was hated by fans, compare to Prometheus which had every body being excited for the continuation of the Alien with Ridley Scott end up being pretty controversial, and not delivering what "fans" wanted. I think in this case it's better that "fans" are on guard, and probably it will make them pleased that it didn't end up being like Prometheus(of course if The Predator going to be good movie).
P.S. also I am super hyped because I was thinking about Shane Blacks movies, and I came to conclusion that I liked them all. Actually Iron Man 3 was my favourite out of all Iron Man movies   ;D
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Nightgaunt on May 11, 2018, 06:59:15 PM
Can't wait to see it but I guess I just don't understand the appeal of the "hybridization" idea. Why is it such a cool idea? Didn't we already explore that with the Super Predators and the Predalien? Why isn't the Predator character design cool enough without necessarily upgrading or hybridizing it?

I'm definitely interested to see Shane Black's take. Happy to see a Busey back in the mix!
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: brokentusk420 on May 11, 2018, 07:12:43 PM
What a crack pot...there isn't infinite variability. Especially with the design of the Predator character. There are good ideas and bad ideas. This looks like nothing but the bad ideas. How about stop trying to reinvent the wheel and give us something reminiscent of the first two movies. The second one is the only worthy sequel. Stop trying to give us a Marvel Predator movie which this is turning out to be.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Lionhart on May 11, 2018, 07:19:11 PM
Quote from: brokentusk420 on May 11, 2018, 07:12:43 PM
What a crack pot...there isn't infinite variability. Especially with the design of the Predator character. There are good ideas and bad ideas. This looks like nothing but the bad ideas. How about stop trying to reinvent the wheel and give us something reminiscent of the first two movies. The second one is the only worthy sequel. Stop trying to give us a Marvel Predator movie which this is turning out to be.

I agree but I thought the predator here looked better then the super preds from predators.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: azamultic on May 11, 2018, 07:28:41 PM
brokentusk420
About bad ideas. Arnold (and a lot of fans) thinks that taking predator out from the jungle and puting him in the city is a bad idea. With waht I personally disagree, and I love the second movie(part of the reason because of new location). So people's translation of bad ideas do varies, therefore saying "Bad idea is bad idea and no alternative" is pretty categorical and subjective saying)
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: ELDERCLANLEADER on May 11, 2018, 07:36:23 PM
Lion heart and brokentusk420 ... how do you know it's bad ? Have you seen the film yet ? You seen a tiny teaser trailer , its way to early to say this is a bad film and to trash talk it .

Predator is my all time favourite character, there is nothing you could say to me that I don't already know about when it comes to predator , and here's the thing , the trailer didn't offend me , not one bit . This is dispite the fact Iv read the script three times , seen the early leaked photos and know everything that's going to happen , I didn't like the script but I knew it was always going to be on strong performances and the tone of the film that makes it successful. There wasn't a lot to go of but what I seen I liked. They kept it simple and to the point , there's nothing wrong with that. If the film sucks sure slate it , but until then you guys really need to get of your high horse and give it a chance first. 😂
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Lionhart on May 11, 2018, 07:40:12 PM
Quote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on May 11, 2018, 07:36:23 PM
Lion heart and brokentusk420 ... how do you know it's bad ? Have you seen the film yet ? You seen a tiny teaser trailer , its way to early to say this is a bad film and to trash talk it .

Predator is my all time favourite character, there is nothing you could say to me that I don't already know about when it comes to predator , and here's the thing , the trailer didn't offend me , not one bit . This is dispite the fact Iv read the script three times , seen the early leaked photos and know everything that's going to happen , I didn't like the script but I knew it was always going to be on strong performances and the tone of the film that makes it successful. There wasn't a lot to go of but what I seen I liked. They kept it simple and to the point , there's nothing wrong with that. If the film sucks sure slate it , but until then you guys really need to get of your high horse and give it a chance first. 😂

Where did I say that this movie is bad?
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Lionhart on May 11, 2018, 07:42:56 PM
Here we go, some news may contain spoilers

Shane Black has made a name for himself by pioneering the buddy/action picture with films like Lethal Weapon and The Last Boy Scout. His newest movie looks to expand his usual duos into a full on ensemble with The Predator. When I visited the set, the emphasis from almost all parties involved was on "character". It's true that for an audience to be invested in a picture, focus must be placed on our heros. If we're not rooting for them, why should we care at all? The core group carries the telling moniker of "The Loonies". Each member is former military coping in various degrees with PTSD and remorse from their time spent in war.

It's clear that Black's intention is to craft an epic thrill ride utilizing various genre motifs in a mash up straight out of the 80's, but the groundwork for such a piece is built from the characters up. He contrasts his style to other big budget tentpole spectacles that are crammed to the brim with massive stunts:

"Our quest to be a cut above is to make it so we keep changing it up so that it feels more like a thriller and less like just action. Because action to me is not sustainable over two hours. You can like it. You can like the Transporter movies. They're fun, but at the end you don't feel like you've had an experience with a guy that you want to sit down with. You feel like you've watched an action character flex his muscles. Hopefully we give you a bigger canvas, more action, and better characters. That's a big get. That's a lot."

Quint (Boyd Holbrook) – The Leader

Hot off his villainous role in the hit Wolverine pic, Logan, Boyd Holbrook is no stranger to big budget genre pictures. This, however, is a lead role; as Holbrook puts it, he will "carry the movie on his back." It's not hard to believe as the actor is pulled from the tent twice for his on set obligations during the fairly short interview. His character, Quint, is the estranged father of Rory (Jacob Tremblay). While not an OG Looney, Quint is thrust into the group and becomes their de facto leader, and he might just be the catalyst for the ensuing alien insanity. In fact, it's hinted that Quint has a direct connection to the original film (remember that familiar jungle set I mentioned?):

"You find him doing mercenary work. Basically collecting a paycheck. You got something you need done down in Mexico. I'm your guy. So he's estranged from his wife. He's detached from his son. Really the heart of the story is about reconnecting and being a father, reconnecting and getting all these looney tune guys who have no direction, to give them some purpose...What is interesting, if I may say – I've seen something and maybe there is a familiarity or, I wouldn't want to say he's a UFO conspirator but he's heard of things and seen things [from his time in Mexico]. So that's the reference to the original. We are keeping some sort of lineage."

Holbrook doesn't seem interested in repeating the same types of roles from picture to picture. When opportunity knocked for him to battle against the Predator, he jumped at the chance.

"What attracted me to this, it was a completely new story...for this character, what Shane wanted to do, the higher story, is to give a complete freshness...to give it a heartbeat. Going away from the machismo, ya know, guns and guns...And, I love that film, but I think we're setting out to do something really different."

Coyle (Keegan-Michael Key) – The Loud Mouth

When Key stepped into the tent I was instantly taken by his presence; tall, animated, charming (I was man crushing pretty hard). "I'm the big mouth of The Loonies!" It was abundantly clear that Key was as jazzed to be on set as we were, and he was relishing the moment.

"There were certainly things that I'm not allowed to share with you that made my eyes pop out of my head...There's always a nice, sly, meta quality [to Black's writing]. This picture contains great referential stuff to not just the original movie, but to Predator 2 and every other movie in the franchise, the Alien vs Predator universe...The way he references the movies is very clever if you're a huge Predator fan. I'm a HUGE fan of this universe."

While it seems this bit of backstory might not make it to film, Key explains how his character, Coyle, and the rest of The Loonies wind up getting caught in a battle with extraterrestrial hunters. The gang meets weekly at the local VA for group therapy, and their biggest complaint is the piss poor coffee. Finally, they start a mutiny over the junky java and get themselves detained. On the bus ride to the nuthouse is where it seems the story proper begins:

"Boyd's character just happens to be thrown on the same bus with them. So, that's how he becomes our ad hoc leader. [Coyle] has a very jarhead mentality, 'Well, okay, so there are aliens.' Brbrbrbrbrbr (mimicking the sound of gunfire)...He's never fully engaged. He's always standing a little outside of himself, so he doesn't have to deal with his own pain. He goes, 'I guess we're doing this. I guess these seven foot dreadlock dudes are real.' He pretends like he takes it with a grain of salt..We're all a little off. We're not the dream team."

Baxley (Thomas Jane) – The Loose Canon

"They're taking us down to the, ya know, the big hospital where they're going to lock us up for a few days for observation. That's when Boyd gets thrown on the bus too with us, cause he's seen an alien and they want to cover that shit up. So, Boyd and all these lunatics end up going on this adventure."

Thomas Jane manages to provide the most succinct plot synopsis thus far with his dryly humorous delivery. Jane has gotten to play in a lot of fanboy sand boxes, and The Predator is just another in a long list that includes a Marvel movie, Stephen King adaptation, and his current Syfy series, The Expanse. As Baxley, Jane's character is the closest with Key's Coyle. During a friendly fire incident, Coyle made a fatal mistake that led to the death of Baxley's troupe, ultimately leaving Baxley shell shocked and now suffering from tourettes. "I know that Shane and Keegan came up with a lot of the backstory themselves...We've tried to pepper that stuff, weave it into the story." Speaking of Black and the freedom to play around outside the script:

"He creates a tone that's very hard to do. It's serious. The stakes are high. The people are real, yet it's funny as f**k...He hits a bell inside of me that I really enjoy."

Nettles (Augusto Augilera) – The Lovable One

Augusto Aguilera might not be a name you know yet, but his character of Nettles is described as the "heart" of the group. Nettles is a role that just might put the young actor on the map. Aguilera is instantly relatable and down to earth as he describes being in the unemployment office just weeks before landing the role. When asked how big a fan he is of the Predator franchise, he tells of how he and his brothers "played" Predator after having seen the original movie:

"I would be, for some reason, I was The Body, Jesse Ventura. We'd run around the house and my poor mother and father would freak out. We'd run around and shoot guns and shoot at them cause they were the alien at the time...We'd get dressed in full costume doing this, because my mom saved all of our costumes from Halloween. We'd be in full camo. We'd paint our faces...So my fandom? Out of ten? Ten."

The character of Nettles is a bit of an outsider trying to fit in with this group of damaged tough guys. He used to fly helicopters as part of a special forces group known as The Nightstalkers. An injury from a past mission left him with TBI (traumatic brain injury). "So, I'm just a beat behind. Which is easy for me to play," he says with a sheepish grin. On preparing to tackle the sensitive subject of TBI, Aguilera explains, "You prepare with, just trying to get kind of a sense of humanity. You don't want to be there doing these things and the people that actually are afflicted with this, you don't want them to feel like they've been spoofed...That would ruin me."

From playing pretend soldiers as a kid, Aguilera has come full circle to playing pretend as an adult. Thankfully, this time around he got a bit more training before being sent off to faux-warfare:

"They've got some special forces guys here and they've just been, they've like handed us a bunch of guns and blanks, obviously, and they've been teaching us to do all this stuff. I'm walking around now in Vancouver thinking I'm like six feet tall. I feel like I'm so cool cause I can shoot a gun. I have no idea if I can hit a target, but I can LOOK pretty cool shooting it."

Lynch (Alfie Allen) – The Loner

Alfie Allen is very quiet and observant. He sits before us patiently awaiting each question and providing only the few necessary words to relay his intent, nothing more. Unsurprisingly, his character, Lynch, is described as the loner of the group who tries to intimidate those around him with nothing more than a glare. Though, he apparently has one other trick up his sleeve. "He's got a skill which is, um, sleight of hand. He uses card tricks to sort of fill his alone time, but I guess also, it's just kind of a nervous tick."

Allen has a bit more to say when it comes the film itself:

"It's very real. Rather than it just sort of being 'Hey, tough guys! This is an alien. We can deal with it!' We're all just really dealing with it as humans...I think it's different from the other Predators...When I was reading the script, it immediately jumped out towards me that this is a whole different ballgame."

Nebraska (Trevante Rhodes) – The Right Hand Man

"This is awesome. This is obviously a big difference from what I'm used to!"

Very true words, coming from Trevante Rhodes who has gone from the groundbreaking, Oscar nominated indie film, Moonlight, to the newest sci-fi/action epic in a long running franchise. Rhodes has a laid back demeanor, calm and cool as he points out that one of my fellow reporters is "cheesing" from the excitement of being on set. It's as if this newfound celebrity hasn't yet caught up to the hot up and comer. In the film, Rhodes takes on the role of Nebraska:

"He's the man behind the man, in regards to Boyd Holbrook's character. He's kind of the guy who helps keep him on track and helps push him and everything. So, he's kind of the leader behind the leader of this motley crew...Nebraska, he was someone who had his own special forces group, he had his own unit....he made a wrong decision and got everybody killed except for himself...

That's something he's still struggling with and why he's kind of distanced himself from the world. Then he stumbles upon these people that kind of assume that same kind of family...I've been in the shits. I've lost it. Know what I mean, I have nothing left to lose. A man that has nothing left to lose will try anything twice...Obviously, we get into this world of aliens and he's like 'Well, what else could happen?'"

Rhodes continues to heap the resounding accolades onto Black for his ability to breathe new life into an old franchise and help root it in strong characters. "It's exactly what you would expect from Shane Black, but obviously placed within this unique world, but with...more heart than what I've seen from Shane's work before."

Dr. Brackett (Olivia Munn) – The Brains

As the sole female lead, Olivia Munn's Dr. Casey Brackett is far from just another "token female" or one note, super-powered badass. She's a legitimate human being thrust into an extraordinary situation. The actress is as friendly and welcoming as she appeared to be those many moons ago on G4. She's come a long way from co-hosting a nerd tech talk show. "My character has been on a list from the CIA because she is an evolutionary biologist, and because of her expertise...she gets called in to the labs and gets to try and offer her help — and then things happen!" she coyly ends as to avoid any spoilers.

"There's a small scene where my character is shown pictures [of the predator] for the first time....This is like seeing God to her. This is what she's studying, how creatures change and evolve and how it's not scary. It's a very beautiful thing to see...There is an element of realizing when you're in danger and at the same time, trying to assess. She doesn't just jump to conclusions just because she doesn't look like them and she isn't speaking the same language, doesn't mean that you shoot it right away. That's a lesson for everyone in life."

When asked if we might see the Predators evolve and change throughout the film, Munn gives a cheeky grin and responds, "That's a very good question."

Rory (Jacob Tremblay) – The Key

The ten year old boy who has been making a name for himself since the critically acclaimed role in The Room is far from your typical child actor. He's smart as a whip and gives commanding, thoughtful performances; but unlike some Stepford-esque child actors, Tremblay is still a kid at heart who gets excited by the idea of Nerf Guns. Though, Shane Black jokingly thinks otherwise, "It's uncanny. He's a mutant...I've never seen anything like it. Like cramming Peter O'Toole into a miniature body."

We learn that Tremblay's character, Rory, is autistic. This leaves him with an uncanny ability to understand various languages...perhaps even that of the Predators? To prepare for the role Tremblay and Black visited various autism centers where the young actor was able to meet those living with the condition and better understand their physicality. While it may have been research for the role, in Tremblay's words they just went "to hang out with some kids."

While he may be too young to buy a ticket for The Predator once it's released, they hasn't stopped Tremblay from seeing the original film.

"It was really exciting because I saw the first movie with Arnold Schwarzenegger, and I loved [it] and I wanted to be him for Halloween. Plus, this is my first action movie, and I was really excited about that...When I heard I could get the part I was like, "YEAH!"

It doesn't hurt that Tremblay, Black, and Holbrook have had what sounds like several Nerf battles at the film's production office, but Tremblay was obviously having a blast working on this particular set. "I wouldn't do it if it wasn't fun."

Just how fun is it acting against a 7 foot tall killer alien? Surely that would be terrifying for a 10 year old? Nah. Tremblay excitedly told us, "I got to fist bump him!"

Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Stealth_Hunter on May 11, 2018, 07:52:36 PM
That article keeps calling him Quint instead of Quinn.

Thanks for posting Lionheart.

Bloody-disgusting article in case anyone was wondering:

http://bloody-disgusting.com/interviews/3431416/interview-day-prey-cast-details-characters-predator/
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Lionhart on May 11, 2018, 07:54:11 PM
Quote from: Stealth_Hunter on May 11, 2018, 07:52:36 PM
That article keeps calling him Quint instead of Quinn.

Thanks for posting Lionheart.

Bloody-disgusting article in case anyone was wondering:

http://bloody-disgusting.com/interviews/3431416/interview-day-prey-cast-details-characters-predator/

I know it would have been easier to post the article but I wasn't sure if they rules would have allowed that so I copy, paste.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: ELDERCLANLEADER on May 11, 2018, 07:54:39 PM
Lion heart you agreed to brokentusk who was saying it was bad...
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Stealth_Hunter on May 11, 2018, 07:55:42 PM
Quote from: Lionhart on May 11, 2018, 07:54:11 PM
Quote from: Stealth_Hunter on May 11, 2018, 07:52:36 PM
That article keeps calling him Quint instead of Quinn.

Thanks for posting Lionheart.

Bloody-disgusting article in case anyone was wondering:

http://bloody-disgusting.com/interviews/3431416/interview-day-prey-cast-details-characters-predator/

I know it would have been easier to post the article but I wasn't sure if they rules would have allowed that so I copy, paste.
Oh crap I hope I didn't break any rules now  :P sorry if I did, feel free to delete my post ha
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Lionhart on May 11, 2018, 07:57:05 PM
Quote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on May 11, 2018, 07:54:39 PM
Lion heart you agreed to brokentusk who was saying it was bad...
I agreed to the design only, lol. But atleast it looks better than avp and predators design
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Lionhart on May 11, 2018, 07:58:16 PM
Quote from: Stealth_Hunter on May 11, 2018, 07:55:42 PM
Quote from: Lionhart on May 11, 2018, 07:54:11 PM
Quote from: Stealth_Hunter on May 11, 2018, 07:52:36 PM
That article keeps calling him Quint instead of Quinn.

Thanks for posting Lionheart.

Bloody-disgusting article in case anyone was wondering:

http://bloody-disgusting.com/interviews/3431416/interview-day-prey-cast-details-characters-predator/

I know it would have been easier to post the article but I wasn't sure if they rules would have allowed that so I copy, paste.
Oh crap I hope I didn't break any rules now  :P sorry if I did, feel free to delete my post ha

I'm not sure buddy :D I'm clueless myself
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: ELDERCLANLEADER on May 11, 2018, 07:58:52 PM
Lion heart fairs dues , my statement is at brokentusk then lol 😂
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Lionhart on May 11, 2018, 07:59:47 PM
Quote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on May 11, 2018, 07:58:52 PM
Lion heart fairs dues , my statement is at brokentusk then lol 😂

:-) 👍
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: brokentusk420 on May 11, 2018, 09:09:56 PM
ELDERCLANLEADER just because you can settle for mediocrity doesn't mean the rest of have to. It does look bad, you just cant see it because you suffer from blind loyalty. Its ok I understand there are whole groups of people who will take anything they shove down the pipe and find reasons to justify it. THIS WILL BE THE MARVEL PREDATOR MOVIE
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Ramjet311 on May 11, 2018, 09:20:12 PM
Quote from: brokentusk420 on May 11, 2018, 09:09:56 PM
ELDERCLANLEADER just because you can settle for mediocrity doesn't mean the rest of have to. It does look bad, you just cant see it because you suffer from blind loyalty. Its ok I understand there are whole groups of people who will take anything they shove down the pipe and find reasons to justify it. THIS WILL BE THE MARVEL PREDATOR MOVIE

Dont speak for " The Rest " champion. It's cool you are not a fan and that's ok. No need to get upset at the people who like it though :) :)

For the record, i've never seen a Marvel movie so i have no idea what you mean :D :D
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: brokentusk420 on May 11, 2018, 09:24:18 PM
Ramjet311 im pretty sure i wasnt talking to you or even about you. You like it fine, good luck with that.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Lionhart on May 11, 2018, 09:24:49 PM
Quote from: brokentusk420 on May 11, 2018, 09:09:56 PM
ELDERCLANLEADER just because you can settle for mediocrity doesn't mean the rest of have to. It does look bad, you just cant see it because you suffer from blind loyalty. Its ok I understand there are whole groups of people who will take anything they shove down the pipe and find reasons to justify it. THIS WILL BE THE MARVEL PREDATOR MOVIE

What do you mean with marvel predator movie?
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on May 11, 2018, 09:27:44 PM
Quote from: brokentusk420 on May 11, 2018, 09:09:56 PM
ELDERCLANLEADER just because you can settle for mediocrity doesn't mean the rest of have to. It does look bad, you just cant see it because you suffer from blind loyalty. Its ok I understand there are whole groups of people who will take anything they shove down the pipe and find reasons to justify it. THIS WILL BE THE MARVEL PREDATOR MOVIE

And maybe you lack of filmmaking knowledge ? Just asking  ;)
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Gigerfan 1 on May 11, 2018, 09:42:57 PM
Don't knock it until you see it. It's like saying Alien series sucked without seeing the movies.there are a lot of fans out there who will roast you,as it should be.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: skull-splitter on May 11, 2018, 09:59:48 PM
Slightly restored faith.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 11, 2018, 10:03:20 PM
Quote from: Lionhart on May 11, 2018, 07:54:11 PM
Quote from: Stealth_Hunter on May 11, 2018, 07:52:36 PM
That article keeps calling him Quint instead of Quinn.

Thanks for posting Lionheart.

Bloody-disgusting article in case anyone was wondering:

http://bloody-disgusting.com/interviews/3431416/interview-day-prey-cast-details-characters-predator/

I know it would have been easier to post the article but I wasn't sure if they rules would have allowed that so I copy, paste.

Not at all. I'd always prefer it if people posted the links back to the source. I've split your posts off and merged with the set reports thread though.


Quote from: brokentusk420 on May 11, 2018, 07:12:43 PM
What a crack pot...there isn't infinite variability. Especially with the design of the Predator character. There are good ideas and bad ideas. This looks like nothing but the bad ideas. How about stop trying to reinvent the wheel and give us something reminiscent of the first two movies. The second one is the only worthy sequel. Stop trying to give us a Marvel Predator movie which this is turning out to be.

Just because he doesn't want to repeat the original movies doesn't equate to trying to release a "Marvel Predator" movie. Comments like that always make me laugh though. The silliest, and quite frankly wrong, complaint that gets directed at Predators is that it was a remake of the first. And yet there are people such as yourself who complain that the new film isn't just something that hits the same beats as the first 2 films.

The Predator is so insanely versatile. And it's something I've thought for a long time. There's more to it than just being able to plonk a hunt in a different time period. I'm really excited to see that Shane had this mentality. Just hope he pulls it off.

Also gents - I hate having to remind people to show each other some respect. Or at the very least act like adults without throwing digs at each other.


Another one from BD - http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3432561/set-visit-bleeds-can-kill-effects-design-predator/

Not read yet.


http://collider.com/shane-black-interview-the-predator/
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: brokentusk420 on May 11, 2018, 10:26:38 PM
BigDaddyJohn I do have film making knowledge. Probably more than you do, its what I was in school for character design and story development.

By Marvel movie I mean, the over all tone and the development of the plot as well as the look of the characters will be in the current marvel formula vein. Rather than the less is more approach to the plot they went full retard in front of Saturday morning cartoons with it. This movie is the epitome of the phrase,"jumping the shark".

Instead of relying on the strong following and cannon set with the first two movies, they opt to go with the garbage set forth in the AvP and Predators movie. Which was a sorry excuse of an homage/reboot/whatever you call it of a movie. The truth is these movies have been terrible and everyone who says they are is just desperate for anything the throw at us and except it with blind loyalty.

I've been into these characters since before the internet. Since before you could get anything more than a trailer before it came to theater and that was on the TV or in the theater only. No forums to chat about them and speculate. No way to scrub the trailers for clues. No merchandise except the Kenner line which is where those ideas should stay. They are childish ideas of the characters meant to sell. Not to make a good movie out of. The first two movies were so good because they didn't have too many cooks in the kitchen no franchise to sell for the future. Just two related stories. Movies today are made for the wrong reasons and it shows in the final product. 


Corporal Hicks...when I say in the vein of the originals I don't mean a carbon copy or some half baked homage. Mainly I mean to stick with the design of the Predator character without deviating so hard. If Stan Winston can think up a whole tribe of individual predators and not go for the ridiculous like over sized weapons, football player size bodies, unimaginative and ugly look to their face and over all appearance. Or make a story that sounds like a bad syfy channel plot, when there is plenty of source material out there that walks the line of the originals in all the regards that these newer movies havent been. Less is MORE.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: azamultic on May 11, 2018, 10:45:14 PM
Brokentusk420
  I didn't finish school as a writer and director, but took movie history, basics of storytelling, and graduated as a 3d artist for enertaiment buisnes(originaly started as 2d animator). And from my little knoweladge of movie making, I am not 100% sure that this movie will fail(as you saying). Shane Black is a good writer and director and I believe a very good artist. He is always using crazy ideas for his movies and usually it worked out well.
  Also first Predator movie was a fluke, Thanks to a lot of people this movie became a classic (Stan Winston, Brothers Thomas, Joel Silverm, Arnold, Silvestry, other actors etc), but I personally think that main reason for Predator suscess was John McTiernan, He is just a very talanted director for action thrillers. And here we see a kind of cartoony comic story about big musculars soldiers fighting an aline hunter, becoming movie classic for 30 + years already.
  So yes, i believe any crazy and not serious ideas can become classic, if the developers will get lucky with producers, actors etc. and DIRECTOR.  ;)


Also my last favourite movie about Predator, was Predator 2 and I didn't liek any other movies with Predator (I an tollerate Predators ) ;)  So I am hopefull for this movie, but I wouldn't prase it if it will end up being a fail. But while they making Predators movies, we always going to have a chance to have a good movie again.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Hollywood on May 11, 2018, 10:51:26 PM
Quote from: brokentusk420 on May 11, 2018, 10:26:38 PM
Instead of relying on the strong following and cannon set with the first two movies, they opt to go with the garbage set forth in the AvP and Predators movie.
I disagree. They've got a character related to another character from Predator 2 and an interview of Holbrook today hinted at acknowledging 'Predator' events directly. I dont know what you mean about this following AVP and Predators, because although I haven't read the script it doesn't seem like xenos are referenced and neither is a game preserve planet/Royce.

QuoteThe truth is these movies have been terrible and everyone who says they are is just desperate for anything the throw at us and except it with blind loyalty

I think there's plenty of people who weren't happy with the AVP movies (not accepting everything blindly) who are still looking forward to this film. I'm looking forward to this but I haven't made up my mind whether or not I'll like it or not. I need to see it first, or at the very least, I need to see a full trailer.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: ELDERCLANLEADER on May 11, 2018, 11:10:09 PM
Brokentusk I'm not settling for anything , I'm saying we have seen a tiny teaser trailer and it's far too early to judge the film at this stage, and to slate Shane black and co .

anyone who knows me on avpgalaxy will tell you , for the last 6 months Iv been talking nothing but negativity about this film based on the script that I have at hand, I hated it, but the thing is the teaser proved me wrong and I enjoyed the new direction it's going in. I do believe it's time the franchise branches out in new creative ways. There's only so many times you can keep making a film about a squad of guys getting hunted before it turns stale.

Something has to change , and you forget they have to sell to a fresh audience everytime , the predator fan base is quite small really , they can't bank on just us going to see the movie. I'm actually very excited I'm going to see a new predator film that isn't a rehash.

So AVPgalaxy I said this day might come and I want to say " I was wrong for slagging the film off based on a old script , I like where Shane black is going with this thing and that I now have full faith in black " 

Some fans will just hate anything , no matter what you do  ;D
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: azamultic on May 11, 2018, 11:14:18 PM
ELDERCLANLEADER
"So AVPgalaxy I said this day might come and I want to say " I was wrong for slagging the film off based on a old script , I like where Shane black is going with this thing and that I now have full faith in black "   :o

So I guess debating wit you for the last few months weren't for nothing my friend  ;D
Man hopefully this movie going to be goood!
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: ELDERCLANLEADER on May 11, 2018, 11:20:50 PM
Azamultic no it wasn't .. You helped me see sense  and I put my petty personal vision of predator to bed zzzz 😂 I'm all for change and I think Shane black will deliver. Before I seen the trailer I wasn't hopeful , now i am. Just really got me excited and I really wasn't expecting that.. maybe I'm a sucka !  ;)
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Thedutchpredator on May 11, 2018, 11:50:31 PM
Exactly what I said like a month ago.
If this goes well at the box office we will see a lot more movies and sooner .At the end of the day that's what we all want
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on May 11, 2018, 11:50:44 PM
Quote from: brokentusk420 on May 11, 2018, 10:26:38 PM
BigDaddyJohn I do have film making knowledge.

So you know Shane Black is not your average joe when it comes to directing, storytelling, character development ? Stuff you can barely see in the teaser (even though the cinematography looks very good and deserve to be mentioned).


Quote from: Hollywood on May 11, 2018, 10:51:26 PM
Quote from: brokentusk420 on May 11, 2018, 10:26:38 PM
Instead of relying on the strong following and cannon set with the first two movies, they opt to go with the garbage set forth in the AvP and Predators movie.
I disagree. They've got a character related to another character from Predator 2 and an interview of Holbrook today hinted at acknowledging 'Predator' events directly. I dont know what you mean about this following AVP and Predators, because although I haven't read the script it doesn't seem like xenos are referenced and neither is a game preserve planet/Royce.

QuoteThe truth is these movies have been terrible and everyone who says they are is just desperate for anything the throw at us and except it with blind loyalty

I think there's plenty of people who weren't happy with the AVP movies (not accepting everything blindly) who are still looking forward to this film. I'm looking forward to this but I haven't made up my mind whether or not I'll like it or not. I need to see it first, or at the very least, I need to see a full trailer.

Unfortunately some people (not everyone of course) think that because of the shuriken and the single wristblade, this movie will be related to AVP and Predators... I don't  ;D
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: ace3g on May 12, 2018, 12:47:10 AM
[Set Visit] Shane Black and Crew Talk Practical Effects and Predator Dogs in 'The Predator''

http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3432561/set-visit-bleeds-can-kill-effects-design-predator/
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: D88M on May 12, 2018, 02:13:14 AM
The fact that he is using the Shurikens instead of the Disc weapon tells me everything i need to know, as if IM3 was not enough proof that he has NO idea what is the essence of a character
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Huggs on May 12, 2018, 02:23:22 AM
I understand where he's coming from, but I'll continue to remain skeptical until the film is released and we see what we've got.

On another note, have there been any early names for the new predator floating around yet? We've got city hunter, jungle hunter, etc. Anybody got any ideas? "burbhunter" maybe?
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Stealth_Hunter on May 12, 2018, 02:26:35 AM
Quote from: ace3g on May 12, 2018, 12:47:10 AM


[Set Visit] Shane Black and Crew Talk Practical Effects and Predator Dogs in 'The Predator''

http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3432561/set-visit-bleeds-can-kill-effects-design-predator/



QuoteI can confirm that despite some rumors of motion capture being used for the Predator, it appears we are getting a good old fashioned man in a suit for our main man.

Rothbart also reiterated the Predators are being kept as live action as possible with only a few shots being designed for VFX.

Outstanding  ;D
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: JungleHunter87 on May 12, 2018, 03:30:40 AM
Quote from: ace3g on May 12, 2018, 12:47:10 AM
[Set Visit] Shane Black and Crew Talk Practical Effects and Predator Dogs in 'The Predator''

http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3432561/set-visit-bleeds-can-kill-effects-design-predator/

Interesting read.

Spoiler
Although I find it hard to believe they weren't inspired by PREDATORS with the Hounds/Dogs idea. Also, why does ADI think everything Predator related needs dreadlocks?! The Dogs looked fine in PREDATORS.
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Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Jenga on May 12, 2018, 07:02:26 AM
This is so weird. The Trailer seems so generic and uninspired but I'm absolutely loving this interview with Shane black on JoBlo. His head and his heart totally seem in the right place and it's kind of pulled me out of the funk I felt when the trailer landed. It's so frustrating because I think they absolutely could make several good Predator movies but they have to not go too big and focus on characters and have some fun. It will be interesting to see how this turns out.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: dallevalle on May 12, 2018, 09:00:00 AM
Quote from: Thedutchpredator on May 11, 2018, 11:50:31 PM
Exactly what I said like a month ago.
If this goes well at the box office we will see a lot more movies and sooner .At the end of the day that's what we all want

a shame that the fan base isent so big with predator movies i bet it will earn it's money back but im sure that will be it.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Hemi on May 12, 2018, 09:43:18 AM
Quote from: D88M on May 12, 2018, 02:13:14 AM
The fact that he is using the Shurikens instead of the Disc weapon tells me everything i need to know, as if IM3 was not enough proof that he has NO idea what is the essence of a character

Iron Man 3 was a great movie. And judging a movie because the baddy uses a certain weapon is lame.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: dallevalle on May 12, 2018, 09:57:34 AM
Quote from: Hemi on May 12, 2018, 09:43:18 AM
Quote from: D88M on May 12, 2018, 02:13:14 AM
The fact that he is using the Shurikens instead of the Disc weapon tells me everything i need to know, as if IM3 was not enough proof that he has NO idea what is the essence of a character

Iron Man 3 was a great movie. And judging a movie because the baddy uses a certain weapon is lame.

well you might have enjoyed iron man 3 but i thought it was a average iron man movie.
id rather watch thor dark world over iron man 3.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: azamultic on May 12, 2018, 11:42:08 AM
ELDERCLANLEADER I am glad to hear that brother!  ;) We do need some soldiers in our team, because I feel mostly this movie already hated by a large number of fans  ;)
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on May 12, 2018, 12:57:06 PM
Quote from: dallevalle on May 12, 2018, 09:57:34 AM
Quote from: Hemi on May 12, 2018, 09:43:18 AM
Quote from: D88M on May 12, 2018, 02:13:14 AM
The fact that he is using the Shurikens instead of the Disc weapon tells me everything i need to know, as if IM3 was not enough proof that he has NO idea what is the essence of a character

Iron Man 3 was a great movie. And judging a movie because the baddy uses a certain weapon is lame.

well you might have enjoyed iron man 3 but i thought it was a average iron man movie.
id rather watch thor dark world over iron man 3.


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: ELDERCLANLEADER on May 12, 2018, 01:06:46 PM
Azamultic nice one bro ! Yeah I sort of feel like even if Shane gets this film wrong , I can forgive him for at least trying new things and going for a large scope.

This will always be my favourite franchise of all time , I would much rather go into a cinema seeing a brand new take on my favourite hunter and exploring their lore more , than seeing the same worn down formula again and again .

I agree with you azamultic the first film was very much a fluke , it just had the right team on board at the right time. Thing is im more a fan of the creature than the film itself , to me predator 2 is better than predator 1 because I love how it tried to build on the lore. Since predator 2 I haven't had a film that gives me any real deep satisfaction, and I believe The Predator will do exactly that for me. It wants to expand on the lore , it wants a much bigger scope and it's not going to please every predator fan , but to me Shane can be forgiven for trying something fresh. All this negativity is based on what exactly? They have seen a tiny trailer, and most haven't even read the script either , the way we have. So I think people are acting quite sheepish when they are putting this film down , because as it stands it's based on nothing . ;D
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: D88M on May 12, 2018, 01:07:07 PM
Quote from: Hemi on May 12, 2018, 09:43:18 AM
Quote from: D88M on May 12, 2018, 02:13:14 AM
The fact that he is using the Shurikens instead of the Disc weapon tells me everything i need to know, as if IM3 was not enough proof that he has NO idea what is the essence of a character

Iron Man 3 was a great movie. And judging a movie because the baddy uses a certain weapon is lame.

Is not, it is entertainning and well made on the technical aspects but is not good, the main problem being that has NOTHING to do with anything Iron Man related, is just a random movie that happens to have Iron Man lore names pasted on it. One of the worst mcu movies, up there with Thor Ragnarok, specially in the "unrelated to the comic book" department. It gives me zero faith in regards to what Shane is doing with this movie.

And the weapon is the same dumb one as in both awful AVP movies (and game that also had avp movies stuff in it for some senseless reason) so it just gives me a bad feeling about the movie. That and the awful leaked script of course. That script and the previous movie i saw from the director leads me to believe this movie will be bad, the fact that they use a weapon from two bad movies instead of the classic weapon from a far more superior movie which is actually canon is the cherry on the cake that tells me my bad feelings are justified so far. In fact every new we get related to this movie makes it sound worse and worse, i think i will skip watch it on theaters.


Now, moving on:

"One of the actors says there'll be connections to all the Predator films as well the Aliens vs Predator universe."
"Predator dogs"

WTF, are they serious? Connection to the avp movies? So Shane is gonna turn them into canon? (Not really, the three Alien movies -Resurrection maybe- and two Predator movies are canon and nothing else)

Predator dogs?

This is really sounding like a random movie with Predators in it
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: ELDERCLANLEADER on May 12, 2018, 01:18:25 PM
The original AVP wasn't that bad , it was just a dumb creature feature and I don't think it was ever to be taken seriously, I enjoyed it for what it was , there were things in there that I didn't like sure , but I wouldn't call it a "bad" movie. AVPR however was utterly dreadful I'll give you that.

I think The Predator will be far superior movie than both AVPs and Predators put together. Sure there are things in this new film I'm cautious about , but I'm not automatically going to not like it , before Iv actually seen the final product first.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on May 12, 2018, 01:41:06 PM
Quote from: D88M on May 12, 2018, 01:07:07 PM
Quote from: Hemi on May 12, 2018, 09:43:18 AM
Quote from: D88M on May 12, 2018, 02:13:14 AM
The fact that he is using the Shurikens instead of the Disc weapon tells me everything i need to know, as if IM3 was not enough proof that he has NO idea what is the essence of a character

Iron Man 3 was a great movie. And judging a movie because the baddy uses a certain weapon is lame.
unrelated to the comic book

That doesn't make it a bad movie IMO. I guess judgment on IM3 depends a lot on where you stand from, more of a comic lover or a cinema lover... I'm more of the latter, even though iron man is one of my 4 favourite comic book character ever  ;)

Anyway, can' wait to hear more about The Predator, more set visits reports and interviews, those we already got were really interesting.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: brokentusk420 on May 12, 2018, 03:47:12 PM
The first avp was just as awful as the second. Instead of going off the comic they took elements and made a hack of a movie with hack creature effects. It's the starting point of people inserting there own tasteless vision to the Predator character as well as the alien.  This movie looks as if will be no different
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: ELDERCLANLEADER on May 12, 2018, 05:25:29 PM
Brokentusk sorry to break it to you , but that's only your opinion , if you don't like the direction it's going in fine , but there's no need to take it out on people who are willing to give it a chance before forming their own judgement. Seriously dude , you haven't even seen it yet , and your totally writing it off , the truth is none of us know if it will be a good film or not at this point.



Also if you really cared about predator , you would want this film to be successful even if you didn't like it ... why ? Because if this film bombs say goodbye to another predator film for the next 20 years if at all.

Now Disney are so close to owning predator , this film will either be seen an the revival of predator or the death of predator for years to come.. so when all you so called fans want it to fail , just remember your not just hurting the movie,  you are hurting the brand as a whole. And that is far more damaging than what Shane black could ever do with one film.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Hollywood on May 12, 2018, 05:59:51 PM
Quote from: Jenga on May 12, 2018, 07:02:26 AM
This is so weird. The Trailer seems so generic and uninspired but I'm absolutely loving this interview with Shane black on JoBlo. His head and his heart totally seem in the right place and it's kind of pulled me out of the funk I felt when the trailer landed. It's so frustrating because I think they absolutely could make several good Predator movies but they have to not go too big and focus on characters and have some fun. It will be interesting to see how this turns out.

I agree especially about Shane Blacks interview. I love what he says about the characters and casting them.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: azamultic on May 12, 2018, 06:03:07 PM
ELDERCLANLEADER Yeh I love Predator 2, and I would say I love Predator 2 a little bit more than original Predator. And I agree part of the lore they inserted in the end was AMAZING! My favourite scene is the lost tribe one  ;)
" Thing is im more a fan of the creature than the film itself "
  Also I think it's part of the reason why a lot of people being angry and negative to the fact that they are not a fan of the movie, but fan of the "Predator" himself. They don't care about characters, all they want is to see Slasher movie where Predator kills victims, another location, another group of people( I am generalizing a lot) ;)
And I think it's a possible way to use a franchise(Predator 2 was a slasher to a degree), but also we can go different direction and actually get more polished and expended universe, or hell even get new classic, or a hit (If we will get lucky)
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: ace3g on May 12, 2018, 08:56:25 PM
http://bloody-disgusting.com/interviews/3432088/going-looney-set-predator/

[Set Visit] Shane Black on Taking the Franchise to New Places in 'The Predator'

another set visit from The Nerdist

https://nerdist.com/the-predator-shane-black-interview-set-visit/
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Wysps on May 12, 2018, 09:49:18 PM
The interviews just seem to be pouring out now. 

Quote from: ace3g on May 12, 2018, 12:47:10 AM
[Set Visit] Shane Black and Crew Talk Practical Effects and Predator Dogs in 'The Predator''

http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3432561/set-visit-bleeds-can-kill-effects-design-predator/

Spoiler
"Pit Bulls...'cause they have to play a very angry, mean role and sometimes a nicer role."
I'm nervous about this  :-[ It might be an execution thing, but I so don't want nice predator doggies walking alongside humans or taking them on as their masters.  An animal with a predator face shouldn't be nice or cute...I don't think I could get used to this.  The movie might end up making it acceptable, but I don't see how it can be done.
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Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: newagescamartist on May 12, 2018, 11:09:56 PM
From a design perspective, AVP was pretty awesome in regard to the predators. Yes, the faces were terrible, but we got some of the coolest looking masks ( celtic, sexiest mask imo ), armor, and weapons. Some of the criticism here regarding the shuriken seems like nitpicking. The weapons aren't going to define this movie. I'm positive we haven't seen the coolest shit in the movie. These interviews are making me a lot more optimistic.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Thedutchpredator on May 12, 2018, 11:25:09 PM
Very well said
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Xan21 on May 12, 2018, 11:39:11 PM
The AVP predators where way too overpacked with armour... I like the more tribal looking predators... these looked like they came from a factory line.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: yautjapet on May 13, 2018, 12:40:39 AM
Quote from: Wysps on May 12, 2018, 09:49:18 PM
The interviews just seem to be pouring out now. 

Quote from: ace3g on May 12, 2018, 12:47:10 AM
[Set Visit] Shane Black and Crew Talk Practical Effects and Predator Dogs in 'The Predator''

http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3432561/set-visit-bleeds-can-kill-effects-design-predator/

Spoiler
"Pit Bulls...'cause they have to play a very angry, mean role and sometimes a nicer role."
I'm nervous about this  :-[ It might be an execution thing, but I so don't want nice predator doggies walking alongside humans or taking them on as their masters.  An animal with a predator face shouldn't be nice or cute...I don't think I could get used to this.  The movie might end up making it acceptable, but I don't see how it can be done.
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I'm really leery about the idea of "predator dogs" in general. I just have a hard time seeing them using dogs (I'm talking classic pred, not superpreds) to aid them in their hunt, it feels like it would go against the idea of individual skill and self-sufficiency. I guess it's just not something I personally am interested in seeing, but that's just me.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: predator2rules on May 13, 2018, 01:30:42 AM
My first impressions so far. I am impressed with the suit design. I always collected figures from Pred 1 and pred 2 but none of the other films. I think I will be buying any figure from this. I think to write off a film before seeing it is stupid. I know people are passionate but give it a go. It definitely feels different to other pred films but hell we are in 2018 and everything just seems bigger and more spectacular in films these days. I'm looking forward to the research facility scenes. I've wanted that idea for a long time. I am looking forward to it.

It's bitch raping time
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Jigsaw85 on May 13, 2018, 01:42:20 AM
I love the fact that Shane black isn't dishing out the usual stock interview answers. "What made the original so great..." "respecting the original...." "...going back to the roots.." "recapturing what made the original such a classic." "....did i mention the original?" Instead he just says "I'm taking everything I loved growing up and throwing it all into one movie." Lol sounds nuts but could be a lot of fun. If nothing else, it should be entertaining.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: prototypeXIII on May 13, 2018, 03:11:23 AM
The set looks good; I was however unimpressed by the teaser.  Less is more, and they decided they were going to shove the whole plot down your throat in one big gulp.  Save it for the trailer with tidbits here an there; As of now they delivered the entire skeleton without meat and it looks slim.
We did however pretty much get confirmation on the plot, let's hope it delivers.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: OpenMaw on May 13, 2018, 05:15:40 AM
Predators did a pretty good job with the Predator dogs. The way they were likened to real world hunters by Royce was very much in keeping with the original films away of expositing about the creature and it's motives.

Whether they end up being the same beasty or not, well. I actually hope they at least take some cues from the Predators hound designs.

Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Xerxész on May 13, 2018, 09:54:31 AM
Quote from: Wysps on May 12, 2018, 09:49:18 PM
Spoiler
"Pit Bulls...'cause they have to play a very angry, mean role and sometimes a nicer role."
I'm nervous about this  :-[ It might be an execution thing, but I so don't want nice predator doggies walking alongside humans or taking them on as their masters.  An animal with a predator face shouldn't be nice or cute...I don't think I could get used to this.  The movie might end up making it acceptable, but I don't see how it can be done.
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Have you read the script?
There are much worse things regarding the dogs... ;)
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: skhellter on May 13, 2018, 10:18:50 AM
Quote from: burkewhimp on May 13, 2018, 01:30:42 AM
It's bitch raping time


Imagine watching Predators and thinking that was a "cool line"

Imagine thinking that's a cool line to reference in the forums.

wat  ??? :-X
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: OpenMaw on May 13, 2018, 11:22:34 AM
Quote from: skhellter on May 13, 2018, 10:18:50 AM
Quote from: burkewhimp on May 13, 2018, 01:30:42 AM
It's bitch raping time


Imagine watching Predators and thinking that was a "cool line"

Imagine thinking that's a cool line to reference in the forums.

wat  ??? :-X

I thought it was funny as Hell. I still do, and I will neither apologize, nor will I be made to feel weird for it. It was funny.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on May 13, 2018, 11:50:58 AM
Quote from: azamultic on May 12, 2018, 06:03:07 PM
Also I think it's part of the reason why a lot of people being angry and negative to the fact that they are not a fan of the movie, but fan of the "Predator" himself.

Spot on ! Couldn't agree more !
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: PredBabe on May 13, 2018, 02:18:01 PM
Quote from: yautjapet on May 13, 2018, 12:40:39 AM
Quote from: Wysps on May 12, 2018, 09:49:18 PM
The interviews just seem to be pouring out now. 

Quote from: ace3g on May 12, 2018, 12:47:10 AM
[Set Visit] Shane Black and Crew Talk Practical Effects and Predator Dogs in 'The Predator''

http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3432561/set-visit-bleeds-can-kill-effects-design-predator/

Spoiler
"Pit Bulls...'cause they have to play a very angry, mean role and sometimes a nicer role."
I'm nervous about this  :-[ It might be an execution thing, but I so don't want nice predator doggies walking alongside humans or taking them on as their masters.  An animal with a predator face shouldn't be nice or cute...I don't think I could get used to this.  The movie might end up making it acceptable, but I don't see how it can be done.
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I'm really leery about the idea of "predator dogs" in general. I just have a hard time seeing them using dogs (I'm talking classic pred, not superpreds) to aid them in their hunt, it feels like it would go against the idea of individual skill and self-sufficiency. I guess it's just not something I personally am interested in seeing, but that's just me.

But your name is yautjapet, how can you not like the concept of predator dogs?!

Quote from: OpenMaw on May 13, 2018, 05:15:40 AM
Predators did a pretty good job with the Predator dogs. The way they were likened to real world hunters by Royce was very much in keeping with the original films away of expositing about the creature and it's motives.

Whether they end up being the same beasty or not, well. I actually hope they at least take some cues from the Predators hound designs.


Agreed.

I like to think it depends of the type of hunt that the predators are looking to have. If they don't want to stalk and want to flush out their prey, then they'll use the hounds like they would a weapon. Maybe they're something they use in times of war as well.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Wysps on May 13, 2018, 06:16:13 PM
Quote from: Xerxész on May 13, 2018, 09:54:31 AM
Quote from: Wysps on May 12, 2018, 09:49:18 PM
Spoiler
"Pit Bulls...'cause they have to play a very angry, mean role and sometimes a nicer role."
I'm nervous about this  :-[ It might be an execution thing, but I so don't want nice predator doggies walking alongside humans or taking them on as their masters.  An animal with a predator face shouldn't be nice or cute...I don't think I could get used to this.  The movie might end up making it acceptable, but I don't see how it can be done.
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Have you read the script?
There are much worse things regarding the dogs... ;)

I have, regrettably :laugh: Would have been much better off just waiting to watch the movie.  Joke's on me.  And I'm with you, by the way - there are better things to worry about, but it still happens to be a pain point for me, as silly as it is.

Quote from: PredBabe on May 13, 2018, 02:18:01 PM

Quote from: OpenMaw on May 13, 2018, 05:15:40 AM
Predators did a pretty good job with the Predator dogs. The way they were likened to real world hunters by Royce was very much in keeping with the original films away of expositing about the creature and it's motives.

Whether they end up being the same beasty or not, well. I actually hope they at least take some cues from the Predators hound designs.

Agreed.

I like to think it depends of the type of hunt that the predators are looking to have. If they don't want to stalk and want to flush out their prey, then they'll use the hounds like they would a weapon. Maybe they're something they use in times of war as well.

The leaked content is suggesting that this is ultimately not the role that one or some of the hounds will play, and it will be more like I described in my post  :'(  I do hope they end up changing it though, and it ends up being more like what happened in the Predators movie - which I can totally dig.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 14, 2018, 09:23:58 AM
QuoteRothbart explains the inspiration for the dogs was not taken from the similar creatures seen in the film Predators.

"We try to baseline it off...the Predator. So we try to keep it where at least we have some similar aspects to the dog that we can bring back to the Predator. They have some level of dreads to them." He emphasizes the importance of having an animal in reality to base the visual effect off of. The idea being the human brain can more quickly relate to a digital creation based in reality than something completely brand new and outside the box. So, what breed did they land on for the alien mutt's inspiration? "Pit Bulls...'cause they have to play a very angry, mean role and sometimes a nicer role."

http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3432561/set-visit-bleeds-can-kill-effects-design-predator/

I'm a little worried about it being more based on the Predators themselves than the Hounds from Predators. I'm really not keen on them overdoing the hybrid-thing.


Quote from: Stealth_Hunter on May 12, 2018, 02:26:35 AM
Quote from: ace3g on May 12, 2018, 12:47:10 AM


[Set Visit] Shane Black and Crew Talk Practical Effects and Predator Dogs in 'The Predator''

http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3432561/set-visit-bleeds-can-kill-effects-design-predator/



QuoteI can confirm that despite some rumors of motion capture being used for the Predator, it appears we are getting a good old fashioned man in a suit for our main man.

Rothbart also reiterated the Predators are being kept as live action as possible with only a few shots being designed for VFX.

Outstanding  ;D

Well we know this isn't strictly true. There's a mixture of both.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Johnny Handsome on May 14, 2018, 10:15:46 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 14, 2018, 09:23:58 AM
QuoteRothbart explains the inspiration for the dogs was not taken from the similar creatures seen in the film Predators.

"We try to baseline it off...the Predator. So we try to keep it where at least we have some similar aspects to the dog that we can bring back to the Predator. They have some level of dreads to them." He emphasizes the importance of having an animal in reality to base the visual effect off of. The idea being the human brain can more quickly relate to a digital creation based in reality than something completely brand new and outside the box. So, what breed did they land on for the alien mutt's inspiration? "Pit Bulls...'cause they have to play a very angry, mean role and sometimes a nicer role."

http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3432561/set-visit-bleeds-can-kill-effects-design-predator/

I'm a little worried about it being more based on the Predators themselves than the Hounds from Predators. I'm really not keen on them overdoing the hybrid-thing.


Quote from: Stealth_Hunter on May 12, 2018, 02:26:35 AM
Quote from: ace3g on May 12, 2018, 12:47:10 AM


[Set Visit] Shane Black and Crew Talk Practical Effects and Predator Dogs in 'The Predator''

http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3432561/set-visit-bleeds-can-kill-effects-design-predator/



QuoteI can confirm that despite some rumors of motion capture being used for the Predator, it appears we are getting a good old fashioned man in a suit for our main man.

Rothbart also reiterated the Predators are being kept as live action as possible with only a few shots being designed for VFX.

Outstanding  ;D

Well we know this isn't strictly true. There's a mixture of both.
You mean upgrade will be a mixture of motion capture and real suit?
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 14, 2018, 10:37:02 AM
I mean as in some Predator's are costumes, the Upgrade AFAIK is the mo-cap. To the best of my knowledge there wasn't a practical suit for him.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Johnny Handsome on May 14, 2018, 11:22:28 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 14, 2018, 10:37:02 AM
I mean as in some Predator's are costumes, the Upgrade AFAIK is the mo-cap. To the best of my knowledge there wasn't a practical suit for him.
Well, if he's really a beast maybe its for the better, doing things old school for the sake of it isn't the right way either. We already have classic Predator suits, so maybe we get the best of both worlds.

I like the Jurassic Park approach they take.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 14, 2018, 11:27:23 AM
As long as it looks awesome, I'm not too fussed on how exactly it's achieved.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: dallevalle on May 14, 2018, 12:22:38 PM
im kinda scared about the upgrade if it looks anything close to this then we are doomed ( resident evil retribution giant licker) xD

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/98/2f/88/982f88d889b232f6cd1b9a90fba50169.gif)
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Xerxész on May 14, 2018, 01:01:17 PM
Quote from: dallevalle on May 14, 2018, 12:22:38 PM
im kinda scared about the upgrade if it looks anything close to this then we are doomed ( resident evil retribution giant licker) xD

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/98/2f/88/982f88d889b232f6cd1b9a90fba50169.gif)

The Upgrade is not 4-legged so don't be afraid.
Here is a rough description of him:
Spoiler
- cc. 10 feet tall
- does not have mask
- has armour-like hard skin (so he does not need armour)
- has humanish eyes
- has an ion canon on his gauntlet
- has a kind of projectile arrow weapon on his other gauntlet (I think this could be an updated Speargun)
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Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 14, 2018, 01:55:26 PM
http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/movies/the-predator/57636/visiting-the-set-of-the-predator

A new set report. This one includes some stuff with Brian Prince about playing The Predator.

QuoteThere's a certain thrill to seeing a Predator in real life. First, there's the scary height of the thing: about seven feet tall, with the bulky shoulders, the dreadlock-esque head tentacles and that cool, metallic mask. How disconcerting, then, that the guy under the Predator mask is loveable, smiling comic book geek named Brian Prince - it just so happens that he's a comic book geek who's nearly seven feet tall and great at parkour.

"Olivia Munn said to me, 'There's no way you can play the Predator - you're too nice,'" Prince says with a huge grin. As Prince says this, he shifts his weight on a tall director's chair, the wood flexing beneath his muscular bulk. From the head downwards, he's pure Predator: the pale mottled skin, clawed hands, futuristic body armour. From the neck up, he's happy 20-something ex student who dreams of one day turning his comic into an animated feature.

"I got really lucky," Prince shrugs. "I was originally an art student in Atlanta, I draw comics and do illustrations and stuff. I was in Seattle Washington in a parkour gym - I've done parkour for nine years."

All that change, Prince explains, when he got a call from The Predator's stunt coordinator; Prince made a video demonstrating his parkour skills, sent it off, and within a few weeks, he was on a plane bound for Los Angeles.

"I just got in there and started swingin' and jumpin', started running around. We did the audition process - there was me, Kyle, about three other guys, all about the same height. We drew in our own take of some kind of creature movement. I mixed in some hunting and primal elements with a lot of my parcour movements - a lot of jumping, vaulting, rolling around. I guess Shane liked it, because the next day they told me I got it. I was like, What? I was working minimum wage last year, and now I'm here!"

So how does a friendly artist from Atlanta, Georgia get into the headspace of a ruthless hunter from another planet? Prince's secret weapon, he explains, is none other than Spotify.

"One thing I started doing a few weeks in was listening to a lot of music - it's always been easy for me to listen to a song and take the emotion out of it," Prince says. "This one's angry, this one's sad. So I've been doing that. I have a playlist on my phone, on my Spotify, and it has a lot of videogame music. Foo Fighters. Pumped up, angry - I called [the playlist] Destroy. I have a lot of stuff from the God Of War games, because that character's a big inspiration for me. The main character of that game is Kratos - this big, tall warrior. He's very similar to what the Predator creature is, in my mind, so I use him as a reference and inspiration."

All that parkour, meanwhile, will go towards creating a more agile Predator than we've seen in previous movies. Sure, the monster in the Schwarzenegger classic could lurk in trees and move swiftly, but the 2018 Predator, Prince says, will be far more fleet-footed.

"This creature's a lot more mobile. In the other films, they'd move, for sure, but a lot of the times, in the first one, there wasn't a lot of agile movement. So with this one, for me, they're throwing me through things, I'm fighting, slashing. One of the things I had in mind was for the creature to look heavy, to look big, but also to be very mobile - kind of like a lion. A big creature... or a bear. You see one running at you, and you're like, Oh damn."

As the interview draws to a close, Prince continues to marvel at the chance to appear in a big-budget sci-fi movie; he explains that, for the first few days, he didn't even realise he could just ask somebody for a bottle of water if he felt thirsty in his heavy, stuffy 60lb suit. "I'm learning to be more assertive without being a jerk," the actor says, his latex alien biceps bulging.

Getting out of his chair, Prince thanks everybody in  turn, before heading off to play a deadly alien hunter in another scene. As one journalist puts it: "He's the sweetest Predator ever."
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Drizz on May 14, 2018, 02:52:20 PM
Glad that we'll be able to see the Predators move like they're supposed to. It was always implied that they are mobile or at least we saw glimpses of it, hopefully we will finally be able to see it now.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Hemi on May 14, 2018, 02:53:36 PM
Quote from: D88M on May 12, 2018, 01:07:07 PM
Quote from: Hemi on May 12, 2018, 09:43:18 AM
Quote from: D88M on May 12, 2018, 02:13:14 AM
The fact that he is using the Shurikens instead of the Disc weapon tells me everything i need to know, as if IM3 was not enough proof that he has NO idea what is the essence of a character

Iron Man 3 was a great movie. And judging a movie because the baddy uses a certain weapon is lame.

Is not,

We the people disagree with you... (and also the box office numbers for that matter...)
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Johnny Handsome on May 14, 2018, 03:07:09 PM
Iron Man 3 is easily my favourite Marvel movie, and i said that long before Black was even considered writing/directing the next Predator. Part of it's charm is that the Character of Tony Stark is much more grounded in reality, not so much anymore with the newer movies, which is a shame.

And yes, i f**king love the Mandarin twist, what a kick in the nuts that was... in a good way, no one saw that coming and that was something quite special in the world of crowded "going by the numbers" summer tentpoles.

And yes, pretty much everyone i know liked it as well, especially that twist.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 14, 2018, 03:12:42 PM
Den of Geek's set report was another really re-assuring article! I just love what I'm hearing from everyone involved!
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: JungleHunter87 on May 14, 2018, 03:22:39 PM
I don't know if they were misquoted or what. But, last I checked, neither Gillis or Woodruff worked on the original PREDATOR.

So, that bit in the Den of Geek set visit was misleading.

That and Jane's weird apocalyptic speech aside. I loved hearing from the cast and crew!

I have a good feeling about this film!
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: skull-splitter on May 14, 2018, 05:09:31 PM
More agile predators, I like it.

Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: ThePredatorUK on May 14, 2018, 05:38:57 PM
Am I right I'm saying there are 5 Predators and this movie now?

3 classics and 2 new variations?
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: huntin8-t0n on May 14, 2018, 05:41:32 PM
@JungleHunter87, I recall Woodruff being mentioned in The Winston effect book (but I can't check, for I don't have it atm) Anyhow, if you check imdb, he's there in makeup dept.

Really good news, I am more and more optimistic about this. Some of my friends said it has a different vibe, when first watching the trailer (which I found a bit mediocre, but hey)

Yes, it is and maybe after 30 something years, it should be.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: azamultic on May 14, 2018, 05:55:44 PM
JungleHunter87 the industry of practical effects is very mixed, ADI hired Steve Wang for AVPR who were sculpting the original predator for 1987 movie, so maybe they meant that ADI hired people who worked on the original predator before(because it's no more Stan Winston studio) the creators of original predator are working as freelancers everywhere, and it's a high chance that they worked for this movie too  ;)
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: JungleHunter87 on May 14, 2018, 06:01:20 PM
Quote from: huntin8-t0n on May 14, 2018, 05:41:32 PM
@JungleHunter87, I recall Woodruff being mentioned in The Winston effect book (but I can't check, for I don't have it atm) Anyhow, if you check imdb, he's there in makeup dept.

You're right. I see him listed as SFX Make Up on IMDB on PREDATOR. However I didn't see Gillis.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Kailem on May 14, 2018, 06:06:50 PM
Definitely liking the sound of a more agile Predator. That's something I wish we'd had more of in general throughout the films, so that's very good to hear.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Lionhart on May 14, 2018, 06:13:29 PM
Quote from: Drizz on May 14, 2018, 02:52:20 PM
Glad that we'll be able to see the Predators move like they're supposed to. It was always implied that they are mobile or at least we saw glimpses of it, hopefully we will finally be able to see it now.

Don't get your hopes to high. It's not that simple. So far the only one who did a good job is Ian Whyte in avpr, it's a shame the movie was shit.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: huntin8-t0n on May 14, 2018, 06:14:55 PM
Quote from: JungleHunter87 on May 14, 2018, 06:01:20 PM
Quote from: huntin8-t0n on May 14, 2018, 05:41:32 PM
@JungleHunter87, I recall Woodruff being mentioned in The Winston effect book (but I can't check, for I don't have it atm) Anyhow, if you check imdb, he's there in makeup dept.

You're right. I see him listed as SFX Make Up on IMDB on PREDATOR. However I didn't see Gillis.

Yea, about him I don't know anything, sorry. Also I didn't recall Greg Nicotero from the book I read, but on Imdb there he is (uncredited) So who knows, maybe he was uncredited. But I have no info.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Scorpio on May 14, 2018, 07:46:57 PM
Quote from: JungleHunter87 on May 14, 2018, 03:22:39 PM
I don't know if they were misquoted or what. But, last I checked, neither Gillis or Woodruff worked on the original PREDATOR.


They were working for Stan Winston's company at the time so it's possible they worked on the original Predator.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: JungleHunter87 on May 14, 2018, 07:55:25 PM
Quote from: Scorpio on May 14, 2018, 07:46:57 PM
Quote from: JungleHunter87 on May 14, 2018, 03:22:39 PM
I don't know if they were misquoted or what. But, last I checked, neither Gillis or Woodruff worked on the original PREDATOR.


They were working for Stan Winston's company at the time so it's possible they worked on the original Predator.

His company was spilt onto two different projects around 86/87. So not everyone who was an employee at the time actually did any work on PREDATOR. Apparently Woodruff did, however, I've not seen any evidence Gillis did.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: BishopShouldGo on May 14, 2018, 08:11:17 PM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on May 14, 2018, 03:07:09 PM
Iron Man 3 is easily my favourite Marvel movie, and i said that long before Black was even considered writing/directing the next Predator. Part of it's charm is that the Character of Tony Stark is much more grounded in reality, not so much anymore with the newer movies, which is a shame.

And yes, i f**king love the Mandarin twist, what a kick in the nuts that was... in a good way, no one saw that coming and that was something quite special in the world of crowded "going by the numbers" summer tentpoles.

And yes, pretty much everyone i know liked it as well, especially that twist.

I have to say, after re-watching it this weekend, I must agree. Definitely my favorite Marvel film.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: D88M on May 15, 2018, 06:29:42 AM
Quote from: Hemi on May 14, 2018, 02:53:36 PM
Quote from: D88M on May 12, 2018, 01:07:07 PM
Quote from: Hemi on May 12, 2018, 09:43:18 AM
Quote from: D88M on May 12, 2018, 02:13:14 AM
The fact that he is using the Shurikens instead of the Disc weapon tells me everything i need to know, as if IM3 was not enough proof that he has NO idea what is the essence of a character

Iron Man 3 was a great movie. And judging a movie because the baddy uses a certain weapon is lame.

Is not,

We the people disagree with you... (and also the box office numbers for that matter...)

The mcu is targeted at people who never read a Marvel comic book, and is ridiculous that say that a movie is good because it did well at the box office, is totally unrelated. Infinity War was the first attempt of disney of making something resembling a Marvel movie, still, lots of forced humor. What i am trying to say is that IM3 has nothing to do with anything Iron Man related, i cant even find Stark in that movie, is a generic blockbuster with a famous brand in it.

Quote from: Johnny Handsome on May 14, 2018, 03:07:09 PM
Iron Man 3 is easily my favourite Marvel movie, and i said that long before Black was even considered writing/directing the next Predator. Part of it's charm is that the Character of Tony Stark is much more grounded in reality, not so much anymore with the newer movies, which is a shame.

And yes, i f**king love the Mandarin twist, what a kick in the nuts that was... in a good way, no one saw that coming and that was something quite special in the world of crowded "going by the numbers" summer tentpoles.

And yes, pretty much everyone i know liked it as well, especially that twist.

The movie tried to be a subversion of what we expect of a superhero movie, i get it, but it was not well done enough to pull it off, the humor was pretty forced and dumb but that is a staple of the mcu at this point. Stark is the most out of character in this movie, but i havent watched it again since that awful first time, but IM always had lots of science fiction, i know that since BB all superhero movies try to be "grounded and realistic" but that is missing the point of making that kind of movie. And the lied with the tone the movie was gonna have in the trailers.

Th Mandarin twist was awful, if they wanted to do that (pretty out of place in a IM movie btw) they could have done it without wasting a character.

Everybody that i know that has read comic books pretty much dislikes most of the mcu, they are not very related to them in anyway and it shows a lot the hand of disney in it. I know someone who LOVES the mcu, but has never read a comic book, so he does not know how poor the adaptations are (for the most part, there is good stuff in the mcu)

What i mean by all this is that in IM3, which is the only movie by this director i have seen, and where Shane had complete creative freedom and made a bad movie, so i dont have faith at all in him as a filmmaker.

Regarding those Predator casting it would be nice to see the auditions and how they will be moving in the movie.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: azamultic on May 15, 2018, 10:10:42 AM
D88M

"i cant even find Stark in that movie, is a generic blockbuster with a famous brand in it." Who is the Stark for you? In Iron Man 3 I saw the same Stark that used to be in all other MCU movies, but at more vulnerable state. He finally felt more relatable compare to all other movies where he is like superhuman, who never panics. But also we had a reason why he changed and act different than before.
   Also I did read comics, and watched all marvel movies, for me they are not perfect, and not my favourite type of movies, but I do can enjoy them, and respect the amaunt of quality of production they put into it.

   Now box office is relatable to the degree about how good is the movie, of course we have tone of movies which breaking box office and being terrible movies, and also movies which are really good, but doing poorly in box office, but still box office related to this part of the conversation.
 
Sugesting watching "The Nice Guys" or "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang" they Shane's movies and they are good.  ;)
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Wysps on May 15, 2018, 02:34:30 PM
Quote from: azamultic on May 15, 2018, 10:10:42 AM
D88M

"i cant even find Stark in that movie, is a generic blockbuster with a famous brand in it." Who is the Stark for you? In Iron Man 3 I saw the same Stark that used to be in all other MCU movies, but at more vulnerable state. He finally felt more relatable compare to all other movies where he is like superhuman, who never panics. But also we had a reason why he changed and act different than before.
   Also I did read comics, and watched all marvel movies, for me they are not perfect, and not my favourite type of movies, but I do can enjoy them, and respect the amaunt of quality of production they put into it.

   Now box office is relatable to the degree about how good is the movie, of course we have tone of movies which breaking box office and being terrible movies, and also movies which are really good, but doing poorly in box office, but still box office related to this part of the conversation.
 
Sugesting watching "The Nice Guys" or "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang" they Shane's movies and they are good.  ;)

Or "The Long Kiss Goodnight", one of his best IMO.  That should add some comfort and optimism until September :) It did me anyway.  This at least proves that he can do heavy action with a respectable amount of humor.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: SisterJill on May 15, 2018, 04:18:36 PM
Hi the Mandarin twist was freaking brilliant and one of the best decisions ever made in the MCU.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: azamultic on May 15, 2018, 07:25:56 PM
Wysps totally forgot about that movie!  :o
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: yautjapet on May 15, 2018, 07:36:54 PM
Quote from: azamultic on May 15, 2018, 10:10:42 AM
D88M

"i cant even find Stark in that movie, is a generic blockbuster with a famous brand in it." Who is the Stark for you? In Iron Man 3 I saw the same Stark that used to be in all other MCU movies, but at more vulnerable state. He finally felt more relatable compare to all other movies where he is like superhuman, who never panics. But also we had a reason why he changed and act different than before.


This is why I really enjoyed IM3. Instead of brushing off violent battles and near-death experiences like they're just another day's work, we got a glimpse of a normally cocky, self-assured hero dealing with the emotional fallout of what he's been through. And not the usual grimdark brooding but truly having to deal with fear and trauma. It was refreshing and compelling to me. And I liked the Mandarin twist, honestly, though I'll admit to not being familiar with the comics at all and what was changed.

So yeah, while I have concerns about The Predator, Black's work on IM3 isn't one of them!
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Highland on May 16, 2018, 05:25:50 AM
Quote from: Danversity on May 15, 2018, 04:18:36 PM
Hi the Mandarin twist was freaking brilliant and one of the best decisions ever made in the MCU.

They decided to completely delete an entire character.. not sure that qualifies as a great decision.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Johnny Handsome on May 16, 2018, 07:41:32 AM
Quote from: Highland on May 16, 2018, 05:25:50 AM
Quote from: Danversity on May 15, 2018, 04:18:36 PM
Hi the Mandarin twist was freaking brilliant and one of the best decisions ever made in the MCU.

They decided to completely delete an entire character.. not sure that qualifies as a great decision.
It does, instead of giving us another cliché super evil boogeyman, shooting rings from outer space they grounded it much more in reality, because most real life villains come with suits and pencils.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: skull-splitter on May 16, 2018, 07:49:50 AM
Quote from: Highland on May 16, 2018, 05:25:50 AM
Quote from: Danversity on May 15, 2018, 04:18:36 PM
Hi the Mandarin twist was freaking brilliant and one of the best decisions ever made in the MCU.


They decided to completely delete an entire character.. not sure that qualifies as a great decision.
Could easily do a double twist and have him come back.

Not very plausible though and this twist made the Mandarin in his final form through Guy Pierce a very generic evil mastermind.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 16, 2018, 07:57:04 AM
They established it wasn't actually the Mandarin. He still exists within the MCU and wasn't happy about the fella impersonating him.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Batalien on May 16, 2018, 10:03:04 AM
Frankly the reason they got away with the twist was because Mandarin is really not an important villain. His last appearance was six years ago where he was killed by son of Obadiah Stane. Even before that he never really made a impact or had any lasting effect in Marvel universe.

Also ever since Avengers movie happened and turned Tony Stark into A level superhero. Iron Man is now always in front and center of crossovers and mega-events. He no longer has time to deal with foes in his rogue gallery, where honestly everyone else except Mandarin, sucks.

I never really heard of someone calling themselves Mandarin fan. It surprises me that people are still upset over Mandarin twist. I believe China had something to do with no wanting real Mandarin since even though Mandarin got a modernized revamp origin, his original story was always a racist Fu-Manchu stereotype.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 16, 2018, 07:19:38 PM
http://www.denofgeek.com/us/movies/the-predator/273522/the-predator-reinventing-the-myth-on-the-set

http://www.denofgeek.com/us/movies/the-predator/273544/the-predator-olivia-munn-finds-god-and-a-good-role-among-aliens

Mostly the same stuff but there was a little bit about the new Predator design -

QuoteWhen Trish Monaghan shows us the new armor she's designed for the Predator, for instance, it has a medieval quality to its design, as if it belongs to a ritualized order of knights. One element she is particularly proud of is his new armor his back-flap, evoking feudal Japan.

"It's a bit Samurai, so it was able to cover, so he wasn't too exposed," she says of how it covers some of the musculature in the legs while still showcasing the familiar shape of what Schwarzenegger memorably deemed to be "one ugly motherf**ker."
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: azamultic on May 16, 2018, 08:13:24 PM
I knew they were using medievil motives   ;)
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: The Wolverine Predator on May 16, 2018, 08:14:51 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 16, 2018, 07:19:38 PM
http://www.denofgeek.com/us/movies/the-predator/273522/the-predator-reinventing-the-myth-on-the-set

http://www.denofgeek.com/us/movies/the-predator/273544/the-predator-olivia-munn-finds-god-and-a-good-role-among-aliens

Mostly the same stuff but there was a little bit about the new Predator design -

QuoteWhen Trish Monaghan shows us the new armor she's designed for the Predator, for instance, it has a medieval quality to its design, as if it belongs to a ritualized order of knights. One element she is particularly proud of is his new armor his back-flap, evoking feudal Japan.

"It's a bit Samurai, so it was able to cover, so he wasn't too exposed," she says of how it covers some of the musculature in the legs while still showcasing the familiar shape of what Schwarzenegger memorably deemed to be "one ugly motherf**ker."

I defiantly loves these parts of the article


"It does play a little slower, maybe like a Western, which would lend itself to that fear factor." It also is a promising departure from the original film, which Holbrook says he's a fan of—and that Shane Black apparently had running on loop for two weeks in the production office of the film before shooting started—but the star repeatedly demurs at comparisons with his Quinn to Arnold Schwarzenegger's Übermensch in the original 1987 picture.

Intriguingly, this extra dimension came intentionally from pushing the cast to via improvise and self-edit. Recalling how the first draft risked being a 150 pages long, Black says he turned to Fred Dekker and said they can't define seven characters in dialogue; they have to cast them.

When Trish Monaghan shows us the new armor she's designed for the Predator, for instance, it has a medieval quality to its design, as if it belongs to a ritualized order of knights. One element she is particularly proud of is his new armor his back-flap, evoking feudal Japan.

"It's a bit Samurai, so it was able to cover, so he wasn't too exposed," she says of how it covers some of the musculature in the legs while still showcasing the familiar shape of what Schwarzenegger memorably deemed to be "one ugly motherf++ker."

Were you able to do any improv on the set?

On this movie, yeah. That's what's so great about Shane: he's an actor's director and he's also a writer. So a lot of times writers can be so married to a script, and a lot of times a director looks at the script as a Bible, but then you end up losing a lot of life that comes up that you wouldn't normally capture on camera. I've worked with directors where they shoot this, they shoot this, and then they go back into the editing bay, and they test it for the audience, and they go, "I love that character, that small character, did you get that?" But they didn't get it, because they weren't shooting.

So this movie, there's been so much collaboration and just in the moment, just everyone coming up with stuff and thinking of stuff, and being present, that helps make the movie feel really fun and fresh, and alive.

Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Xerxész on May 16, 2018, 10:55:05 PM
I don't know. I still stay my opinion that you can say everything you want in order to attract the audience...it's simple marketing. But what you got finally, that's the real thing.
I say wait for the movie and after that you can praise Shane if he deserves.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: yautjapet on May 17, 2018, 12:28:54 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 16, 2018, 07:19:38 PM
QuoteWhen Trish Monaghan shows us the new armor she's designed for the Predator, for instance, it has a medieval quality to its design, as if it belongs to a ritualized order of knights. One element she is particularly proud of is his new armor his back-flap, evoking feudal Japan.

"It's a bit Samurai, so it was able to cover, so he wasn't too exposed," she says of how it covers some of the musculature in the legs while still showcasing the familiar shape of what Schwarzenegger memorably deemed to be "one ugly motherf**ker."

Hmm, can't say I'm thrilled about more structured armor with the predator being "less exposed." I've always liked the more minimal, organic, tribal feel. I am intrigued to see it in full, though!
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: The Shuriken on May 17, 2018, 12:38:36 AM
I like both styles of armor. There's been only one extensively armored Predator on the big screen (Scar), so I look forward to more armored Predators. I'd really like to see the Captured Predator in full view already. So far it seems to be the one good thing I'm into.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Wysps on May 17, 2018, 01:45:11 AM
It's intriguing, but not something I necessarily wanted :laugh:  Definitely more used to the sparsely clothed, organic tribal design.  The coverage and placement of the armor is sort of questionable - the entire chest and back?  (Sure we saw it in AVP, but they were younger hunters and the situation probably called for more armor...)  It is pretty "cool" though, if that's what they're going for.
Title: Re: Countdown to Set-Visits
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 17, 2018, 10:39:56 AM
http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/set-visit-everything-you-need-to-know-about-shane-black-s-the-predator-726?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

JoBlo's rundown of the set visit. Nothing we haven't seen in the others.
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 22, 2018, 02:34:26 PM
http://collider.com/the-predator-spoilers-story-details/?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=collidersocial&utm_medium=social#the-story

Collider just put out a big summary of everything from their set visit.
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: Lionhart on May 22, 2018, 07:41:33 PM
Quote from: Xerxész on May 16, 2018, 10:55:05 PM
I don't know. I still stay my opinion that you can say everything you want in order to attract the audience...it's simple marketing. But what you got finally, that's the real thing.
I say wait for the movie and after that you can praise Shane if he deserves.

Exactly
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: Hollywood on May 22, 2018, 07:55:35 PM
Don't get it twisted, there's a difference between praising the final product and simply expressing confidence in what he says about his approach.
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: The Wolverine Predator on May 23, 2018, 03:16:03 AM
Ok, I might have missed something somewhere, but what kind of Connection would Quinn McKenna have to the original?

This is from the Collider article Hicks posted:

Holbrook teased a connection to the original film through his character, who is familiar with the Predator lore. "I've seen something, and maybe there is a familiarity. I wouldn't want to say that he's a UFO conspiracy theorist, but he's heard of things and seen things, and that may be a reference to the original. So that's the reference to the original, which we are of keeping in lineage."



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Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: Huggs on May 23, 2018, 03:18:20 AM
Quote from: The Wolverine Predator on May 23, 2018, 03:16:03 AM
Ok, I might have missed something somewhere, but what kind of Connection would Quinn McKenna have to the original?

This is from the Collider article Hicks posted:

Holbrook teased a connection to the original film through his character, who is familiar with the Predator lore. "I've seen something, and maybe there is a familiarity. I wouldn't want to say that he's a UFO conspiracy theorist, but he's heard of things and seen things, and that may be a reference to the original. So that's the reference to the original, which we are of keeping in lineage."



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If Anna knew about it in Predators, makes sense that others will. I hope nobody winds up being related to Arnold, that would just be too much.
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: ace3g on May 23, 2018, 03:18:42 AM
Obviously he is Dutch's son...
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: The Wolverine Predator on May 23, 2018, 03:21:52 AM
If Anna knew about it, makes sense that others will.

True, just really curious


Obviously he is Dutch's son...

I thought about this awhile ago, but didn't read that anywhere in the leaked script that I remember
I read through it really fast

Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: Hollywood on May 23, 2018, 03:31:08 AM
What if Hopper was his uncle or something? 😉

I doubt he's directly related to anyone in previous predator lore but perhaps he makes reference to the events of the original based on whispers through the military just like Isabelle.
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: The Wolverine Predator on May 23, 2018, 03:33:23 AM
Quote from: Hollywood on May 23, 2018, 03:31:08 AM
What if Hopper was his uncle or something? 😉

I doubt he's directly related to anyone in previous predator lore but perhaps he makes reference to the events of the original based on whispers through the military just like Isabelle.
Hopper was killing aliens in Indiana before the Jungle Hunter Predator finally took him out...lol
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: Huggs on May 23, 2018, 03:50:21 AM
Whoops, got Alice's character name from I am Legend confused with the one from Predators. I meant Isabelle, not Anna. Boy, you can tell which one of the two I just watched.
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: The Wolverine Predator on May 23, 2018, 03:54:10 AM
Quote from: Huggs on May 23, 2018, 03:50:21 AM
Whoops, got Alice's character name from I am Legend confused with the one from Predators. I meant Isabelle, not Anna. Boy, you can tell which one of the two I just watched.
It's late...it's all good
I understood what you meant
I'm hoping for a good twist
Kinda like Deadpool 2 did with the trailer and the movie being so different
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: OpenMaw on May 23, 2018, 05:00:26 AM
Quote from: Huggs on May 23, 2018, 03:50:21 AM
Whoops, got Alice's character name from I am Legend confused with the one from Predators. I meant Isabelle, not Anna. Boy, you can tell which one of the two I just watched.

Though, to be fair, Anna in Predator was quite familiar with the legend of the "Demon who makes Trophies of Man."
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 23, 2018, 07:45:10 AM
I think the events of the original are likely to be some sort of not-so-secret-secret. Isabelle in Predators knew about it.
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: skull-splitter on May 24, 2018, 11:21:53 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 23, 2018, 07:45:10 AM
I think the events of the original are likely to be some sort of not-so-secret-secret. Isabelle in Predators knew about it.
It was kind of indicated that some government officials are quite in the know and some agencies where familiar with the information indeed.
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: Wysps on May 24, 2018, 04:57:26 PM
Quote from: The Wolverine Predator on May 23, 2018, 03:21:52 AM
If Anna knew about it, makes sense that others will.

True, just really curious

Obviously he is Dutch's son...

I thought about this awhile ago, but didn't read that anywhere in the leaked script that I remember
I read through it really fast

You are correct. That would just be beyond excessive...

I think enough has happened in the previous movies and artifacts have been left lying around to assume that the right people know enough about what's going on. Not a secret, but not something that the general public knows about. I imagine the latter part will probably change after this movie.
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: OpenMaw on May 24, 2018, 05:27:21 PM
City Hunter left so much shit lying around.
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: skull-splitter on May 24, 2018, 06:52:46 PM
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 24, 2018, 05:27:21 PM
City Hunter left so much shit lying around.
And half an arm.
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: black on May 24, 2018, 08:09:44 PM
It will be very stupid on the part of Shane not to take this into account but the chances are small ... I hope the film will still showcase the things of the City Hunter.
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: ace3g on May 26, 2018, 01:25:51 AM
Why Shane Black Decided To Direct The Predator

Director Shane Black opened up to CinemaBlend and other outlets and explained that a significant draw to work on the film involved working with an alien creature who had a discernable personality. Black elaborated:

QuoteNo, I just thought that it was a great, iconic alien. And, what separated it from other alien invasion movies wasn't just a space plot, it was an actual space creature with a mythos and a sense of honor, in some respect. A mission. And, a sense of humor, oddly. The idea of the game it plays. It's rare that the Predator shows humor, but there are moments where you see it almost look at someone like, 'Really?'

https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2425421/why-shane-black-decided-to-direct-the-predator
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: PredBabe on May 26, 2018, 02:49:33 AM
QuoteThere are moments where you see it almost look at someone like, "Really?"

I think we'll be seeing more of those expressions, I can't wait!  ;D
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on May 26, 2018, 12:21:42 PM
Quote from: PredBabe on May 26, 2018, 02:49:33 AM
QuoteThere are moments where you see it almost look at someone like, "Really?"

I think we'll be seeing more of those expressions, I can't wait!  ;D

Very true, like when jungle hunter look at the trap and then look at dutch, or when city hunter realizes he's being fooled by keye's team when changing his vision modes.
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: Wysps on May 26, 2018, 04:09:54 PM
Hoping we'll get more vocalizations along with those expressions.  Maybe even a "conversation" of sorts between some of them...hell even just a few words.
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: PredBabe on May 27, 2018, 04:34:12 AM
Quote from: Wysps on May 26, 2018, 04:09:54 PM
Hoping we'll get more vocalizations along with those expressions.  Maybe even a "conversation" of sorts between some of them...hell even just a few words.

Spoiler
I think the friendly preds have a translator of some kind to communicate with people. It would be neat to see the preds vocalize with each other, which seems to be a good possibility given all that is going on with the story.[\spoiler]
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Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: Xerxész on May 27, 2018, 08:08:58 AM
Quote from: PredBabe on May 27, 2018, 04:34:12 AM
Spoiler
I think the friendly preds have a translator of some kind to communicate with people. It would be neat to see the preds vocalize with each other, which seems to be a good possibility given all that is going on with the story.[\spoiler]
[close]
Spoiler
Not the friendly Predators have it. The military has the translator in order to communicate with the 2 friendly Predators.
Anyway, they do not say complete, full sentences, only words and with slightly bad grammer.
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Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on May 27, 2018, 12:58:53 PM
Not a real big spoiler don't worry, but i'll put the spoiler tag anyway  :D

Spoiler
The upgrade has a little "chat" with McKenna, and i thought it was kinda cool, but it's possible they scrapped it because it was in the third act
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Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: Xerxész on May 27, 2018, 06:34:43 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 27, 2018, 12:58:53 PM
Spoiler
The upgrade has a little "chat" with McKenna, and i thought it was kinda cool, but it's possible they scrapped it because it was in the third act
[close]

Spoiler
Yes, but the Upgrade says words only, as the friendlies.

McKenna: Who are you? What are you?
Upgrade: I...Warrior. You?
M: Same.
U: Warrior. New breed (pointing to Rory).

What a "chat"! ;D Anyway, that's OK, I think. I don't want grammer-perfect deep conversations between a human and a Predator.

But I think they did not scrap that part. Actually it is the reveal of the film's top "surprise" when it turns out that Rory is the most "advanced" of the human race (I know it can be found out earlier when the Upgrade takes Rory to the ship...but this is the moment when the film clearly tells).
No way this is left out from the final version of the script.
[close]
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: OpenMaw on May 27, 2018, 06:59:57 PM
Yep, and that is why the DNA thing and that character are problems that are fundamental to the script, and cause damage to the Predator character as a whole.
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: Wysps on May 28, 2018, 03:17:49 AM
Quote from: Xerxész on May 27, 2018, 06:34:43 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 27, 2018, 12:58:53 PM
Spoiler
The upgrade has a little "chat" with McKenna, and i thought it was kinda cool, but it's possible they scrapped it because it was in the third act
[close]

Spoiler
Yes, but the Upgrade says words only, as the friendlies.

McKenna: Who are you? What are you?
Upgrade: I...Warrior. You?
M: Same.
U: Warrior. New breed (pointing to Rory).

What a "chat"! ;D Anyway, that's OK, I think. I don't want grammer-perfect deep conversations between a human and a Predator.

But I think they did not scrap that part. Actually it is the reveal of the film's top "surprise" when it turns out that Rory is the most "advanced" of the human race (I know it can be found out earlier when the Upgrade takes Rory to the ship...but this is the moment when the film clearly tells).
No way this is left out from the final version of the script.
[close]

Spoiler
I actually hope they take this part out.  I thought it was super duper cringey  :-X
[close]

Quote from: PredBabe on May 27, 2018, 04:34:12 AM
Quote from: Wysps on May 26, 2018, 04:09:54 PM
Hoping we'll get more vocalizations along with those expressions.  Maybe even a "conversation" of sorts between some of them...hell even just a few words.

Spoiler
I think the friendly preds have a translator of some kind to communicate with people. It would be neat to see the preds vocalize with each other, which seems to be a good possibility given all that is going on with the story.[\spoiler]
[close]

This is what I'm hoping for!  Actual conversations between the predators themselves.  Even if it's broken and roughly translated, it would be cool to witness communication between them since all we've had so far have been grunts and snarls.  (Though who knows, maybe that is language to them.)  But knowing what they're actually saying to each other would be kickass. 
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: The Old One on May 28, 2018, 03:36:32 AM
Glad we're at least getting something different from a competent director, hopefully that was just the worst trailer for this series so far.

So Hybridisation, Predator's speaking and tapping in the Alien technology of the Predator all depends upon execution.
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: skull-splitter on May 28, 2018, 06:22:36 AM
Quote from: Wysps on May 28, 2018, 03:17:49 AM
Quote from: Xerxész on May 27, 2018, 06:34:43 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 27, 2018, 12:58:53 PM
Spoiler
The upgrade has a little "chat" with McKenna, and i thought it was kinda cool, but it's possible they scrapped it because it was in the third act
[close]

Spoiler
Yes, but the Upgrade says words only, as the friendlies.

McKenna: Who are you? What are you?
Upgrade: I...Warrior. You?
M: Same.
U: Warrior. New breed (pointing to Rory).

What a "chat"! ;D Anyway, that's OK, I think. I don't want grammer-perfect deep conversations between a human and a Predator.

But I think they did not scrap that part. Actually it is the reveal of the film's top "surprise" when it turns out that Rory is the most "advanced" of the human race (I know it can be found out earlier when the Upgrade takes Rory to the ship...but this is the moment when the film clearly tells).
No way this is left out from the final version of the script.
[close]

Spoiler
I actually hope they take this part out.  I thought it was super duper cringey  :-X
[close]

Quote from: PredBabe on May 27, 2018, 04:34:12 AM
Quote from: Wysps on May 26, 2018, 04:09:54 PM
Hoping we'll get more vocalizations along with those expressions.  Maybe even a "conversation" of sorts between some of them...hell even just a few words.

Spoiler
I think the friendly preds have a translator of some kind to communicate with people. It would be neat to see the preds vocalize with each other, which seems to be a good possibility given all that is going on with the story.[\spoiler]
[close]

This is what I'm hoping for!  Actual conversations between the predators themselves.  Even if it's broken and roughly translated, it would be cool to witness communication between them since all we've had so far have been grunts and snarls.  (Though who knows, maybe that is language to them.)  But knowing what they're actually saying to each other would be kickass. 
Oh god no...
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: The Old One on May 28, 2018, 07:01:45 AM
Predator was always destined to eventually develop them too much so that Predators are essentially humans that look different.

Not saying this wouldn't have happened anyway but if Predator had tried to make it's own identity after Predator 2, or take Predator 2 a little further with a futuristic urban Earth, with its own series identity just beyond the creature itself. Predator would have a world to explore that's not just the creature.
Or riding on the coatails of the Alien universe and making the universe of both of them so much smaller due to that.

IMO do that, then slowly combine it with Alien, (With hints of Blade Runner, not direct connections other than global conglomerates or vehicles.) Then you have a cinematic universe that far and away supersedes that of any other.
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: skull-splitter on May 28, 2018, 09:00:18 AM
Point is, they don't have to. Some of the AvP novels did, but most of the Predator comics broadened the horizon and added stuff without overly humanizing them and keeping them in a shroud of mystery.

It's really not that hard.
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: The Old One on May 28, 2018, 09:03:56 AM
Quote from: skull-splitter on May 28, 2018, 09:00:18 AM
Point is, they don't have to.

Humanise them? Because I agree but they refuse to give the Predator an identity beyond the creature and that's the reason ultimately for said humanisation.

/The bigger badder version of said creature syndrome.
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: ace3g on May 28, 2018, 06:10:51 PM
https://twitter.com/slashfilm/status/1001146358684790784
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: Wysps on May 28, 2018, 06:13:51 PM
Quote from: skull-splitter on May 28, 2018, 09:00:18 AM
Point is, they don't have to. Some of the AvP novels did, but most of the Predator comics broadened the horizon and added stuff without overly humanizing them and keeping them in a shroud of mystery.

It's really not that hard.

I don't see how witnessing communication between them is humanizing them (which btw I'm a big proponent of keeping them "otherly"), unless you're referring to something else...
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: skull-splitter on May 28, 2018, 07:27:06 PM
Quote from: Wysps on May 28, 2018, 06:13:51 PM
Quote from: skull-splitter on May 28, 2018, 09:00:18 AM
Point is, they don't have to. Some of the AvP novels did, but most of the Predator comics broadened the horizon and added stuff without overly humanizing them and keeping them in a shroud of mystery.

It's really not that hard.

I don't see how witnessing communication between them is humanizing them (which btw I'm a big proponent of keeping them "otherly"), unless you're referring to something else...
It's not just communication (everything ís communication), it's the way it's presented. Classic in Predators communicated the way I expect them to, this takes it to another level.

Demystifying the monsters by giving them overly human traits, like it happened in some novels, is what takes away the threat, although I'm afraid that ship sailed long ago.
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: ace3g on May 28, 2018, 07:27:14 PM
https://twitter.com/slashfilm/status/1001176553944858624

https://twitter.com/slashfilm/status/1001206760990896128
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 07, 2018, 12:51:01 PM
https://screenrant.com/the-predator-movie-boyd-holbrook-interview/?utm_content=buffer77734&utm_medium=Social-Distribution&utm_source=SR-TW&utm_campaign=SR-TW

Full interview with Boyd from the set visits.
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: huntin8-t0n on Jun 12, 2018, 04:46:28 AM
Quote from: skull-splitter on May 28, 2018, 07:27:06 PM
Quote from: Wysps on May 28, 2018, 06:13:51 PM
Quote from: skull-splitter on May 28, 2018, 09:00:18 AM
Point is, they don't have to. Some of the AvP novels did, but most of the Predator comics broadened the horizon and added stuff without overly humanizing them and keeping them in a shroud of mystery.

It's really not that hard.

I don't see how witnessing communication between them is humanizing them (which btw I'm a big proponent of keeping them "otherly"), unless you're referring to something else...
It's not just communication (everything ís communication), it's the way it's presented. Classic in Predators communicated the way I expect them to, this takes it to another level.

Demystifying the monsters by giving them overly human traits, like it happened in some novels, is what takes away the threat, although I'm afraid that ship sailed long ago.

this
I really hope there won't be conversation, especially not between the two different species.
Even if the presentation is kind of all right, it can be such a letdown, like in avp 2010, where it sounded so generic "weird alien voice"
some things are just better untouched. For me this topic is one of them about predators.
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: yautjapet on Jun 12, 2018, 09:44:05 PM
I'm actually seriously hoping to see communication between the predators. For a long time I've been dying to know how their language sounds, both to the ear and as far as their syntax, vocabulary, and style in talking to each other. I don't think that's humanizing them, or making them less frightening or less badass. In a universe where intelligent alien life exists, humans certainly wouldn't have a monopoly on language... and I think fleshing them out a bit into more individual characters is far more interesting than just "big monster the humans have to fight." And I love the moments we've seen in the past where the preds and humans have some interaction or exchange beyond just fighting, so any interspecies communication would be icing on the cake for me.
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: OpenMaw on Jun 13, 2018, 12:02:04 AM
Can't agree with that at all.

The scene at the end of Predator 2 is all we ever need to see of Predator interaction. A few gutteral noises, and everything else done with body language, glances, bowing of heads.

Maintain the mystery.
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: yautjapet on Jun 13, 2018, 12:23:35 AM
I think I'm definitely in the minority here as far as the "mystery" of the predators go! Mystery isn't something I need, personally. I'd love to know more about their culture, homeworld, traditions, and language, as well as the thoughts and personalities of them as individuals. A movie with a big chunk of time dedicated to the predator's perspective, or even a wholly pred-centric movie, would be a wet dream for me. Of course, then my own preferred theories about their culture would be erased by canon, so maybe you pro-mystery folks have got it right...!  ;)
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: OpenMaw on Jun 13, 2018, 12:34:04 AM
Oh character is fine, and you can do a lot with the characters as individuals. Just look at Greyback. He's on screen for a minute and thirty seconds, if that, and there is so much raw juice in his short scene. A lot is said without any real dialogue beyond "Take it.."

I don't think being familiar with their societies inner workings would be a great idea. I think peaking behind the curtain and getting glimpses is far more effective. Dropping hints, and clues, red herrings, potential threads etc, is the far better way to go.

Again, the end of Predator 2 left us with at least three potential story opportunities going forward.

Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: Hollywood on Jun 13, 2018, 01:33:23 PM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jun 13, 2018, 12:34:04 AM
I don't think being familiar with their societies inner workings would be a great idea. I think peaking behind the curtain and getting glimpses is far more effective. Dropping hints, and clues, red herrings, potential threads etc, is the far better way to go.

I agree. Seeing too much, especially in a single film, won't be as fun. I hope we never get a movie that takes place on their home planet where their sociological functions are established.
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 13, 2018, 03:28:53 PM
Quote from: Hollywood on Jun 13, 2018, 01:33:23 PM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jun 13, 2018, 12:34:04 AM
I don't think being familiar with their societies inner workings would be a great idea. I think peaking behind the curtain and getting glimpses is far more effective. Dropping hints, and clues, red herrings, potential threads etc, is the far better way to go.

I agree. Seeing too much, especially in a single film, won't be as fun. I hope we never get a movie that takes place on their home planet where their sociological functions are established.

+ 1000
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: Huggs on Jun 13, 2018, 11:05:50 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 13, 2018, 03:28:53 PM
Quote from: Hollywood on Jun 13, 2018, 01:33:23 PM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jun 13, 2018, 12:34:04 AM
I don't think being familiar with their societies inner workings would be a great idea. I think peaking behind the curtain and getting glimpses is far more effective. Dropping hints, and clues, red herrings, potential threads etc, is the far better way to go.

I agree. Seeing too much, especially in a single film, won't be as fun. I hope we never get a movie that takes place on their home planet where their sociological functions are established.

+ 1000

The biggest problem with establishing too much on film is that if it's done poorly and sucks, then it's too late. It's a done deal. Leaving us to imagine some of the motivations ourselves, allows everybody to input their own preferred ideas. Thus satisfying everybody. We already know the predators are a humanoid alien species with superior strength and technology. They arrive on space-ships and hunt humans for sport during times of conflict and in hot/humid environments. That's good enough for me.
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: OpenMaw on Jun 14, 2018, 01:32:30 AM
Exactly.

Last thing we want is to have say, Harrigan and Dutch wake up on Predator Prime, and it's this arid ashen desert wasteland like out of a Mad Max movie or Pitch Black before the sun goes down. Big open orange sky, big ol' primordial sun. We can see two neighboring planets in mid collision up there. Then, Dutch and Harrigan see all the Predators, thousands and thousands of them. Cheering and shouting in Predatorese. At the top of a mound of bones and carcasses sits a Predator twice as big as the rest - The Predator King. He's seated in a chair made of skull and bone and animal hides, flanked by curvaceous and thicc Predator "wenches" laying on their sides like they are posing for a demented swimsuit issue. They coo and purr as he smashes a human skull across his throne. Two Predator guards approach Dutch and Harrigan, wielding staff weapons. Is this some form of trial, or execution? No. The guards drop the staffs at their feet, growling low at the two men, before turning and marching away. "Dey want us to fight. Fo dere amusemant." "I'm gettin' too old for this shit."


...But I digress...


Some of the best moments relating to the Predator are where almost nothing is actually said, just inferred or implied.

That look at the end of Predator that Dutch get's on his face. He doesn't even have to say anything. Just a ominous glance out the window and bam. We all know it. "There will be more."



Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: PredBabe on Jun 14, 2018, 03:25:42 AM
Whatever I wanna see a toddler predator.



But on a more serious note, yes, glimpses are more effective in general for these movies


Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: OpenMaw on Jun 14, 2018, 03:41:01 AM
Quote from: PredBabe on Jun 14, 2018, 03:25:42 AM
Whatever I wanna see a toddler predator.



But on a more serious note, yes, glimpses are more effective in general for these movies

Gotta wonder what the terrible 2's are like.
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: PredBabe on Jun 14, 2018, 04:12:11 AM
Probably pretty terrible...

(https://i.imgur.com/vlMbfvt.jpg)
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: Ultramorph on Jun 14, 2018, 02:25:03 PM
So do we know if
Spoiler
the spider Pred hybrids
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got cut or not? I'm looking forward to some of the crazier stuff.
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: skhellter on Jun 14, 2018, 02:25:33 PM
they are in the film.
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: Wysps on Jun 14, 2018, 02:52:21 PM
Quote from: PredBabe on Jun 14, 2018, 04:12:11 AM
Probably pretty terrible...

(https://i.imgur.com/vlMbfvt.jpg)

He is in way over his head  :D

Spoiler

Whiney toddlers seem to be present throughout all races of the galaxy.

(https://i.imgur.com/1ZNOJ7N.jpg)
I searched high and low for the artist and could not find them.
[close]

Quote from: Ultramorph on Jun 14, 2018, 02:25:03 PM
So do we know if
Spoiler
the spider Pred hybrids
[close]
got cut or not? I'm looking forward to some of the crazier stuff.

There hasn't been any indication otherwise, to my knowledge.
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: bobby brown on Jun 14, 2018, 05:13:16 PM
Quote from: skhellter on Jun 14, 2018, 02:25:33 PM
they are in the film.

Great! Since they went with the directon they did, Go all in. Bring in some crazy monster designs.
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: von on Jun 14, 2018, 05:17:38 PM
Quote from: bobby brown on Jun 14, 2018, 05:13:16 PM
Quote from: skhellter on Jun 14, 2018, 02:25:33 PM
they are in the film.

Great! Since they went with the directon they did, Go all in. Bring in some crazy monster designs.

Precisely what I've said before. Go nuts or go home! Last thing the franchise needs is another half-hearted attempt at a remake that couldn't decide if it was that or a reboot
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: Shaeffer11 on Jun 14, 2018, 06:05:35 PM
Exactly what Von said-  100% agree, go nuts or go home
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: skull-splitter on Jun 14, 2018, 06:44:53 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Jun 13, 2018, 11:05:50 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 13, 2018, 03:28:53 PM
Quote from: Hollywood on Jun 13, 2018, 01:33:23 PM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jun 13, 2018, 12:34:04 AM
I don't think being familiar with their societies inner workings would be a great idea. I think peaking behind the curtain and getting glimpses is far more effective. Dropping hints, and clues, red herrings, potential threads etc, is the far better way to go.

I agree. Seeing too much, especially in a single film, won't be as fun. I hope we never get a movie that takes place on their home planet where their sociological functions are established.

+ 1000

The biggest problem with establishing too much on film is that if it's done poorly and sucks, then it's too late. It's a done deal. Leaving us to imagine some of the motivations ourselves, allows everybody to input their own preferred ideas. Thus satisfying everybody. We already know the predators are a humanoid alien species with superior strength and technology. They arrive on space-ships and hunt humans for sport during times of conflict and in hot/humid environments. That's good enough for me.
This. And have been saying so since about 2003. Keep a mystery, leave it open, do not fill in all the gaps.
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: YTL_Hunter_H2 on Jun 14, 2018, 06:53:04 PM
Quote from: skull-splitter on Jun 14, 2018, 06:44:53 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Jun 13, 2018, 11:05:50 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 13, 2018, 03:28:53 PM
Quote from: Hollywood on Jun 13, 2018, 01:33:23 PM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jun 13, 2018, 12:34:04 AM
I don't think being familiar with their societies inner workings would be a great idea. I think peaking behind the curtain and getting glimpses is far more effective. Dropping hints, and clues, red herrings, potential threads etc, is the far better way to go.

I agree. Seeing too much, especially in a single film, won't be as fun. I hope we never get a movie that takes place on their home planet where their sociological functions are established.
exactly why fix what isn't broken? But whatever this is what we ended up with. It helps me knowing in a few years all films after predator 2 can be ignored similar to the new Halloween movies decision. That helps me a lot with accepting this film. Just read the script and Jesus Christ just awful

+ 1000

The biggest problem with establishing too much on film is that if it's done poorly and sucks, then it's too late. It's a done deal. Leaving us to imagine some of the motivations ourselves, allows everybody to input their own preferred ideas. Thus satisfying everybody. We already know the predators are a humanoid alien species with superior strength and technology. They arrive on space-ships and hunt humans for sport during times of conflict and in hot/humid environments. That's good enough for me.
This. And have been saying so since about 2003. Keep a mystery, leave it open, do not fill in all the gaps.
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: von on Jun 14, 2018, 07:12:06 PM
Quote from: Ultramorph on Jun 14, 2018, 02:25:03 PM
So do we know if
Spoiler
the spider Pred hybrids
[close]
got cut or not? I'm looking forward to some of the crazier stuff.

You can actually see pieces or remnants of those in the leaked set pics and even the footage that's been aired (on the APC)
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: bobby brown on Jun 14, 2018, 07:40:46 PM
That could be parts of the dogs as well.
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: OpenMaw on Jun 14, 2018, 11:45:06 PM
Well that's
Spoiler
the scene where the spider and half breed predator creatures make their big attack, kill the army guys (including Olmos' character) and then start hacking through the loonies like no tomorrow.
[close]

It'd be great if the dogs were just made ubiquitous and throughout the film, instead of having the mutants.
Title: Re: The Predator Set Reports
Post by: PredBabe on Jun 15, 2018, 04:13:31 AM
Quote from: Wysps on Jun 14, 2018, 02:52:21 PM
Quote from: PredBabe on Jun 14, 2018, 04:12:11 AM
Probably pretty terrible...

(https://i.imgur.com/vlMbfvt.jpg)

He is in way over his head  :D

Spoiler

Whiney toddlers seem to be present throughout all races of the galaxy.

(https://i.imgur.com/1ZNOJ7N.jpg)
I searched high and low for the artist and could not find them.
[close]

See now the one in the pic you posted actually reminds me of a female... it's probably those child bearing hips and the fact that it looks like it has dangling earrings.