Random News links from the past 3 days relating to Sigourney Weaver's recent acting schedule, suggesting her heart is not into ALIEN anymore.
AVATAR 2 finished filming the "live action" scenes (all 5 minutes of them) and is now in post-production so could take another year or two before we see that released.
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/avatar-2-marks-end-filming-194323950.html
Now there is a surprise trailer announcement (real this time) for a live action feature length Ghostbusters 3 (in 2020) called Ghostbusters- Afterlife.
Ahem I don't think we had any sequels to Ghostbusters 2 now did we? ::)
Weaver reprises her role as New York cello musician Dana Barrett.
https://uk.movies.yahoo.com/new-ghostbusters-movie-confirms-title-and-upcoming-trailer-133108398.html
Granted I know a walk on part is not as demanding as running around sci-fi corridors with heavy guns, but this proves Weaver could've shoe-horned an ALIEN 5 sequel in her schedule.
It appears (going by Yahoo news) that James Cameron's recent attachment to lukewarm to box office flops (Battle Angel and TERMINATOR Dark Fate) have lead to studios suggesting an ambitious Avatar 3&4 being made is dependent on Avatar 2.
Also box office analysts also have stated Cameron's last two major movies Titanic (1997) and Avatar (2009) only made a buck on repeated viewings and extended marketing campaigns.Studios prefer record breaking returns from the off-set.
Her schedule isn't the issue.
She'd do it if it came up. I just know it.
Quote from: PsyKore on Dec 04, 2019, 08:17:38 AM
She'd do it if it came up. I just know it.
Three things.
1. Alien Covenant. Although the final product was good, I wanted ALIEN 5 more. We won't get an opportunity for Director, script and available leading lady aligned ever again. Even Hollywood is creeping towards throwing shade at James Cameron and redacting its
blank cheque/check policy.
2. Weaver voted with her feet and committed to avatar. Maybe the alien 5 delay she got cold feet
3. Who can forget THE PREDATOR fiasco where "time travelling ripley stand-in" was filmed and almost inserted as an alternative ending cementing another AVP film cross-over? Ironic the Directors of AVP-Requiem, dayjob visual effects creators, rendered the "cgi iron man predator suit" in a mere 2 weeks saved us from that?
Alien 5 was terminated by Dark Fate.
Quote from: AVP-CAPCOM on Dec 04, 2019, 10:43:48 AM
Even Hollywood is creeping towards throwing shade at James Cameron and redacting its blank cheque/check policy.
Cameron's never had that. Each time he makes one of the most successful films ever, he has to struggle uphill both ways to get the next one done.
Quote2. Weaver voted with her feet and committed to avatar. Maybe the alien 5 delay she got cold feet
She literally never had to choose between the two, so what are you on about?
Sil Weaver is often (mis)quoted as not taking on any major movie picture since filming Chappie in 2014.
ALIEN 5 was on schedule to be filmed with that tweet of a (then) newly designed M41 Pulse rife in 2015
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Since 20th Century Fox pulled the movie Weaver stated she was "busy with AVATAR" when eyes turned when it was interpreted that Scott had dropped the ball with Covenant.
As for James Cameron getting funding for Titanic it sounded like a duck to water cause he got two studios to co-fund $200 Million which is the equivalent to $350 Million in today's money and the 3rd most expensive movie of all-time (adjusted for inflation).
Quote from: Kane's other son on Dec 04, 2019, 11:50:51 AM
Alien 5 was terminated by Dark Fate.
And Battle Angel which Cameron had a hand in, until it bombed and he threw Robert Rodriguez under a bus for it, like he did for Tim Miller.
The studios must be thinking "fool me once, shame on you. Fool us twice shame on us".
I would say Avatar 2 will be Cameron's last chance to prove box office bombs are the work of Directorial errors. But anyone holding their breath for Avatar 2- release date confirmed December 2021? His last movie was December 2009.
Alien 5 was not greenlit. Blomkamp had some props made, much like he did for the aborted Halo movie.
Quote from: AVP-CAPCOM on Dec 04, 2019, 10:43:48 AM
Who can forget THE PREDATOR fiasco where "time travelling ripley stand-in" was filmed and almost inserted as an alternative ending cementing another AVP film cross-over?
#NEVERFORGET(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/47582371_343459419571377_1678431481132215546_n.jpg)
;D
Quote from: Kane's other son on Dec 04, 2019, 01:41:43 PM
Alien 5 was not greenlit. Blomkamp had some props made, much like he did for the aborted Halo movie.
Some sources said it was with a then "Prometheus 2" (aka Covenant) also being made back to back.
https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/alien-5/34187/alien-5-neill-blomkamp-sequel-officially-greenlit
I recall blomkamp being told to "not step on the toes of continuity" when his film was due to start shooting and even works elements of the Prometheus canon into it.
As SiL said, Weaver was never required to make a choice between Avatar and an Alien sequel because they never got to a point of signing anyone on to an Alien sequel. It got canned because Fox didn't want to proceed with what Blomkamp was planning.
I think Alien 5 can still happen. Without Ripley and Hicks.
All they need to do is
- Ignore the event of Alien 3 (and Alien Resurrection)
- Cast a new actress (age between 25-35 years old) to play adult version of Newt.
- Newt is the main character, and the future of the franchise.
- Ripley and Hick are not feature in the movie. But both of them are still alive.
- The reason why Ripley and Hick are not feature in the movie. Because they live seperately.
And If they want to tell the the story prior to the event of the movie, when Ripley, Hick and Newt are still living together. All they need to do is made it into comic, video game or CGI TV series, animated series. etc
Brilliant!
Quote from: Alien Primordial Origin on Dec 13, 2019, 04:35:46 AM
I think Alien 5 can still happen. Without Ripley and Hicks.
All they need to do is
- Ignore the event of Alien 3 (and Alien Resurrection)
- Cast a new actress (age between 25-35 years old) to play adult version of Newt.
- Newt is the main character, and the future of the franchise.
- Ripley and Hick are not feature in the movie. But both of them are still alive.
- The reason why Ripley and Hick are not feature in the movie. Because they live seperately.
And If they want to tell the the story prior to the event of the movie, when Ripley, Hick and Newt are still living together. All they need to do is made it into comic, video game or CGI TV series, animated series. etc
Brilliant!
Did you just call your own post brilliant?
I have to remember to do that! ;D
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 04, 2019, 01:48:41 PM
Quote from: AVP-CAPCOM on Dec 04, 2019, 10:43:48 AM
Who can forget THE PREDATOR fiasco where "time travelling ripley stand-in" was filmed and almost inserted as an alternative ending cementing another AVP film cross-over?
#NEVERFORGET
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/47582371_343459419571377_1678431481132215546_n.jpg)
;D
I still sure that everybody deeply in their souls want to see these scenes just for the insanity of it.
Quote from: Kradan on Dec 13, 2019, 04:15:15 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 04, 2019, 01:48:41 PM
Quote from: AVP-CAPCOM on Dec 04, 2019, 10:43:48 AM
Who can forget THE PREDATOR fiasco where "time travelling ripley stand-in" was filmed and almost inserted as an alternative ending cementing another AVP film cross-over?
#NEVERFORGET
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/47582371_343459419571377_1678431481132215546_n.jpg)
;D
I still sure that everybody deeply in their souls want to see these scenes just for the insanity of it.
Maybe if they were from a parody YouTube video. The movie was already painful enough on the big screen.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Dec 13, 2019, 04:40:25 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Dec 13, 2019, 04:15:15 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 04, 2019, 01:48:41 PM
Quote from: AVP-CAPCOM on Dec 04, 2019, 10:43:48 AM
Who can forget THE PREDATOR fiasco where "time travelling ripley stand-in" was filmed and almost inserted as an alternative ending cementing another AVP film cross-over?
#NEVERFORGET
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/47582371_343459419571377_1678431481132215546_n.jpg)
;D
I still sure that everybody deeply in their souls want to see these scenes just for the insanity of it.
Maybe if they were from a parody YouTube video. The movie was already painful enough on the big screen.
No, we're going to demand everything, everything in a maximum upgraded cut and you will take it... you will take it all!!!!
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SomeEthicalImperialeagle-small.gif)
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Nope. Disney killed it. Time to move on.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 13, 2019, 01:36:11 PM
Quote from: Alien Primordial Origin on Dec 13, 2019, 04:35:46 AM
I think Alien 5 can still happen. Without Ripley and Hicks.
All they need to do is
- Ignore the event of Alien 3 (and Alien Resurrection)
- Cast a new actress (age between 25-35 years old) to play adult version of Newt.
- Newt is the main character, and the future of the franchise.
- Ripley and Hick are not feature in the movie. But both of them are still alive.
- The reason why Ripley and Hick are not feature in the movie. Because they live seperately.
And If they want to tell the the story prior to the event of the movie, when Ripley, Hick and Newt are still living together. All they need to do is made it into comic, video game or CGI TV series, animated series. etc
Brilliant!
Did you just call your own post brilliant?
I have to remember to do that! ;D
So presidential! That's what it takes.
So what does Sigourney Weaver's schedule look like now? With images of Blomkamp's dropship shown on alien day, I think there is hope for this film to be made finally.
Just please... No Alien suit!
Brilliant!
It could just end up like Terminator Dark Fate which basically sold itself on the promise of erasing everything after T2 and being a retro sequel to T2.
It didnt make nearly as much money as was hoped despite this and while it was a genuinely ok movie that was better than arguably every Terminator film since T2 it still did not at all stand up in the same league as the original two movies.
Well, technically, Alien 3 works like Dark Fate. We need a true Alien III (V).
Quote from: Datamat on May 18, 2020, 07:34:08 PM
It could just end up like Terminator Dark Fate which basically sold itself on the promise of erasing everything after T2 and being a retro sequel to T2.
It didnt make nearly as much money as was hoped despite this and while it was a genuinely ok movie that was better than arguably every Terminator film since T2 it still did not at all stand up in the same league as the original two movies.
I mean, no. It was pretty damned awful, too.
They literally did a CTRL-R with John Connor and Skynet. And that was a terrible way to "get back to what people love" by literally murdering John Connor.
Honestly at this point what they need to do isn't so much a reboot or anything like that, but just make another film in the Alien universe that takes its cues from the first two films, but doesn't copy them whole sale. Something similar to what Isolation did. Use the universe to tell another story, and go from there.
Dark Fate is the first time I've cared about Terminator since T2.
And I have zero interest in seeing Alien 3 reconned. I would have been more interested in seeing Blomkamp's take on Alien before that conversation he had that got Sigourney involved. Still, I'd be very curious to see a treatment or something of his idea, just because I'm curious about what it would have been.
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 19, 2020, 03:14:04 AM
They literally did a CTRL-R with John Connor and Skynet. And that was a terrible way to "get back to what people love" by literally murdering John Connor.
You mean, they ALIEN
3-ed him ?
It so funny that Alien 3 and T3 basically did the same things to Aliens and T2 and now Cameron himself did the same to T2. Hypocrecy 101
I mean, it isn't really hypocrisy. They're two different stories that he had different ideas on how to proceed on.
In Aliens, he has set up a dynamic the he would have liked to have seen move forward. I personally love the choice Alien 3 made to strip Ripley of all of that, but I understand him being bitter of it.
With Terminator, Cameron was returning to a franchise that he pretty definitively ended with T2, and yet had been poorly followed up on over and over again. In order to do something interesting with the material (and with Sarah's character – and the new T-800, too), and to separate this film from all of the sequels that followed T2, I think his choice there was the right one. It was thematically relevant to the series as a whole, and kept the action going in a way that actually feels like an evolution of the story from the first two films rather than just a retread of it. John still had a purpose the he fulfilled, and continued to inspire a new generation. Sarah was probably more interesting than she's ever been. The T-800 was the most nuanced approach to artificial intelligence the series has ever had and an interesting thematic evolution of T2's ideas.
I don't know. I just really liked Dark Fate. Way more than I ever expected to. The worst thing about it is that it is so clearly setting up a sequel that will not be happening.
It was OK movie but unfortunately pretty forgettable. I think Cameron doesn't really care anymore about the franchise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0hhL8nfwiU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0hhL8nfwiU)
Quote from: Kradan on May 19, 2020, 07:41:57 AM
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 19, 2020, 03:14:04 AM
They literally did a CTRL-R with John Connor and Skynet. And that was a terrible way to "get back to what people love" by literally murdering John Connor.
You mean, they ALIEN 3-ed him ?
It so funny that Alien 3 and T3 basically did the same things to Aliens and T2 and now Cameron himself did the same to T2. Hypocrecy 101
The key missing ingredient in all of these 3rd instalments is James Cameron. Does anyone think that if we got one more James Cameron Aliens film it wouldn't be just awesome?
James Cameron was the driving force behind the story in Dark Fate. All of the big decisions that so many people hated were his.
As for Alien movies, my favorite thing about the original four is how different each filmmaker tackled the material. While I loved Cameron's Aliens, I also very much like Fincher's take (at least, as much of it was Fincher's, among all of Fox's meddling).
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 19, 2020, 09:53:10 PM
James Cameron was the driving force behind the story in Dark Fate. All of the big decisions that so many people hated were his.
They had a team of writers, but regardless, if Cameron directed Dark Fate I'm certain it would have been much better than what it is.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on May 21, 2020, 06:07:49 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 19, 2020, 09:53:10 PM
James Cameron was the driving force behind the story in Dark Fate. All of the big decisions that so many people hated were his.
They had a team of writers, but regardless, if Cameron directed Dark Fate I'm certain it would have been much better than what it is.
But the things that people complained the most about - John's death - was a Cameron mandate. If I'm not mistaken, Carl's development after that was too.
Also, while there are about half a dozen credited writers on Dark Fate (and even more uncredited), more than half of them didn't actually touch Dark Fate's script. Most of them were part of the initial writers room, alongside Cameron and Tim Miller, that broke down the overall arc for the trilogy.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 21, 2020, 06:54:21 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on May 21, 2020, 06:07:49 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 19, 2020, 09:53:10 PM
James Cameron was the driving force behind the story in Dark Fate. All of the big decisions that so many people hated were his.
They had a team of writers, but regardless, if Cameron directed Dark Fate I'm certain it would have been much better than what it is.
But the things that people complained the most about - John's death - was a Cameron mandate. If I'm not mistaken, Carl's development after that was too.
Also, while there are about half a dozen credited writers on Dark Fate (and even more uncredited), more than half of them didn't actually touch Dark Fate's script. Most of them were part of the initial writers room, alongside Cameron and Tim Miller, that broke down the overall arc for the trilogy.
I know idea contributors like David Ellison, Tim Miller etc. were uncredited, but the credited ones who touched it:
Screenplay byDavid S. Goyer
Justin Rhodes
Billy Ray
Story byJames Cameron
Charles H. Eglee
Josh Friedman
David S. Goyer
Justin Rhodes
ALIENS was R rated. Cameron left R rated movies 32 years ago. His movies in the last 32 years are huge family movies. Like the MCU and Disney movies.
Cameron was very hands on with the story of Terminator: Dark Fate and that was a very R-rated movie.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jun 16, 2020, 05:00:17 AM
Cameron was very hands on with the story of Terminator: Dark Fate and that was a very R-rated movie.
NOT Director. His last R rated as Director was 32 years ago. He makes huge family movies.