I figured I'd make a thread where we could discuss different films that never got made. It also gives me a soapbox to dump all my thoughts om whatever scripts I'm reading between podcast episodes. XD
Quote from: KiramidHead on Apr 11, 2017, 11:15:14 PM
I figured I'd make a thread where we could discuss different films that never got made. It also gives me a soapbox to dump all my thoughts om whatever scripts I'm reading between podcast episodes. XD
NAPOLEON by Stanley Kubrick.
His friend Steven Spielberg tried to make NAPOLEON too.
Supposedly Cary Fukunaga is directing Kubrick's Napoleon script sometime in the near future. I've yet to get off my ass and actually read the damn thing, though. :laugh:
I'll mention Ridley Scott's I Am Legend, with Arnold starring. John Logan's script was excellent, I could almost see the film while I was reading it.
King Conan or whatever the title was. It was cancelled a day or two ago :-(
Oh well it probably wouldn't get the same feel and atmosphere of the original, too much time between both films. The first one with Arnold is perhaps my favorite movie of all time.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Apr 12, 2017, 12:35:36 AM
Supposedly Cary Fukunaga is directing Kubrick's Napoleon script sometime in the near future. I've yet to get off my ass and actually read the damn thing, though. :laugh:
I'll mention Ridley Scott's I Am Legend, with Arnold starring. John Logan's script was excellent, I could almost see the film while I was reading it.
I remembered GLADIATOR 2(Sir Ridley Scott).
The script is totally crazy: Maximus(Russell Crowe) versus Ares versus Hades versus Jesus.
Quote from: nanison on Apr 12, 2017, 01:29:41 AM
King Conan or whatever the title was. It was cancelled a day or two ago :-(
Oh well it probably wouldn't get the same feel and atmosphere of the original, too much time between both films. The first one with Arnold is perhaps my favorite movie of all time.
Legend of Conan. I'd love to read the script.
King Conan, Crown of Iron was the one Milius was going to do 1round 2001-2002. The script was great, if a bit messy.
Quote from: PierreVW on Apr 12, 2017, 02:04:19 AM
I remembered GLADIATOR 2(Sir Ridley Scott).
The script is totally crazy: Maximus(Russell Crowe) versus Ares versus Hades versus Jesus.
The script read like Nick Cave dropped wayyyyy too much acid. It read more Jodorowsky than Ridley Scott.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Apr 12, 2017, 02:33:23 AM
It read more Jodorowsky than Ridley Scott.
In other words... It pisses all over the original (fairly generic) film. :laugh:
Quote from: skhellter on Apr 12, 2017, 03:13:23 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Apr 12, 2017, 02:33:23 AM
It read more Jodorowsky than Ridley Scott.
In other words... It pisses all over the original (fairly generic) film. :laugh:
Eh... it was only weird for the first third and the very end. The bulk was generic period piece with Maximus skulking around Rome and hanging with the early Christians... which really makes me wonder why Cave wanted to call it Christ Killer, when Maximus does the opposite.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Apr 12, 2017, 03:28:26 AM
makes me wonder why Cave wanted to call it Christ Killer, when Maximus does the opposite.
because it's a
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Quote from: KiramidHead on Apr 12, 2017, 03:28:26 AM
makes me wonder why Cave wanted to call it Christ Killer, when Maximus does the opposite.
because it's a
great f**king title
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"Maximus was a man... who killed many Christs... he stole the whole true cross..." ;D
:laugh:
There is Tristar's original Godzilla movie from the 90's before Roland Emmerich direct it.
I would've loved to see the sequel to Godzilla 1998
(no, the treatment like that doesn't mean the final film would've been 100% like that)
Another one I've always been waiting for is a live action film of the Thundercats. You know the 80s kids cartoon with an incredibly rich world full of diversity
At this point it seems everything got their revival except thundercats. But then again a thundercats film will turn out in a hollywood cheesefest.
I love GLADIATOR. It won Best Picture at the Oscars.
I wanted DRAGON BALL Z.
When I was a child, my favorite thing in the world was DRAGON BALL Z. My favorite character was and still is Vegeta.
Halo was something I really wish we had seen.
a sequel to Battle Los Angeles is always something I really wanted.
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Apr 12, 2017, 05:15:08 AM
There is Tristar's original Godzilla movie from the 90's before Roland Emmerich direct it.
For anyone that hasn't seen it, here's an incredible article chronicling what could have been...
Godzilla Unmade: The History of Jan De Bont's Unproduced TriStar Film - Complete (http://www.scifijapan.com/articles/2015/06/07/godzilla-unmade-the-history-of-jan-de-bonts-unproduced-tristar-film-complete/)
Quote from: Omegamorph on Apr 12, 2017, 05:29:11 AM
I would've loved to see the sequel to Godzilla 1998
(no, the treatment like that doesn't mean the final film would've been 100% like that)
The treatment Omega is talking about, where Godzilla fights a giant bug called the Queen Bitch...
Godzilla 2 Story Treatment (http://www.scifijapan.com/articles/godzilla-2-story-treatment/)
James Cameron's and Ridley's Scott's Alien(s) 5 that was doing the rounds before AVP came along. I would of been more fascinated, on were they would take it? Be awsome if James Cameron written the Script and Ridley Directed it. However, i doubt it would of been a continuation from Alien Resurrection. Probably would of been something similar to what Ridley Scott's has been doing with Prometheus and Covenant but on a bigger scale and more of a mix of both Alien and Aliens. However some could argue that too many cooks spoil the broth.
The Remake of Escape from New York. That remake has been in limbo hell and everytime i hear something on the Horizon it ends up back in limbo hell.
Live action Akira film but doubt that's going to happen anytime soon since Ghost in the Shell got slated. And I'm glad that the plot for Akira that was doing the rounds a few years a go were canned.
Just for shit and giggles a film I've always wanted to see get made or pitched. Is Critters Vs Gremlins.
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Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Apr 12, 2017, 05:15:08 AM
There is Tristar's original Godzilla movie from the 90's before Roland Emmerich direct it.
For anyone that hasn't seen it, here's an incredible article chronicling what could have been...
Godzilla Unmade: The History of Jan De Bont's Unproduced TriStar Film - Complete (http://www.scifijapan.com/articles/2015/06/07/godzilla-unmade-the-history-of-jan-de-bonts-unproduced-tristar-film-complete/)
Quote from: Omegamorph on Apr 12, 2017, 05:29:11 AM
I would've loved to see the sequel to Godzilla 1998
(no, the treatment like that doesn't mean the final film would've been 100% like that)
The treatment Omega is talking about, where Godzilla fights a giant bug called the Queen Bitch...
Godzilla 2 Story Treatment (http://www.scifijapan.com/articles/godzilla-2-story-treatment/)
There's also he Fred Dekker scripted
Godzilla: King of the Monsters 3D, from he early 80s. It wasn't great, but decent enough. It was basically Snake Plissken in an espionage plot against the Russians, featuring Godzilla. :laugh:
Quote from: KiramidHead on Apr 12, 2017, 08:05:59 PMThere's also he Fred Dekker scripted Godzilla: King of the Monsters 3D, from he early 80s. It wasn't great, but decent enough. It was basically Snake Plissken in an espionage plot against the Russians, featuring Godzilla. :laugh:
With designs by William Stout!
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Quote from: Kimo on Apr 12, 2017, 07:13:10 PM
James Cameron's and Ridley's Scott's Alien(s) 5 that was doing the rounds before AVP came along. I would of been more fascinated, on were they would take it? Be awsome if James Cameron written the Script and Ridley Directed it. However, i doubt it would of been a continuation from Alien Resurrection. Probably would of been something similar to what Ridley Scott's has been doing with Prometheus and Covenant but on a bigger scale and more of a mix of both Alien and Aliens. However some could argue that too many cooks spoil the broth.
The Remake of Escape from New York. That remake has been in limbo hell and everytime i hear something on the Horizon it ends up back in limbo hell.
Live action Akira film but doubt that's going to happen anytime soon since Ghost in the Shell got slated. And I'm glad that the plot for Akira that was doing the rounds a few years a go were canned.
Just for shit and giggles a film I've always wanted to see get made or pitched. Is Critters Vs Gremlins.
DUNE by Sir Ridley Scott after ALIEN(1979) would have been a masterpiece.
Currently reading a book about the development of Freddy vs Jason. There's a part where Tom McLoughlin (director of Jason Lives), mentions that when the rights issues with New Line killed the earliest talks about FvJ, he jokingly suggested a crossover with a property that Paramount actually owned: Cheech and Chong Meet Jason... holy shit, would have been epic. :laugh:
I would like to see;
-a remake of Critters
-a movie adaption of Dino Crisis
-Fire and Stone made into a movie
Dune by Sir Scott would have been interesting indeed.
I would have liked to see George Miller's take on the Justice League, really unfortunate that it couldn't get off the ground. The concept art looked promising.
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Jodorowsky's Dune
Tim Burton's Superman Lives
Jason and the Argonauts 2
Vincent Ward's Alien 3
Del Toro's At the Mountains of Madness
George Miller's Justice League
Peter Brigg's AVP
Whedon's Alien 5 (set on Earth)
Dredd sequels
Vampirella (from Hammer studios in the 70s)
Alex Proyas Dracula Year Zero
Xtro 4 (the director was talking about this a few years ago but have heard nothing since)
Killer Klowns from Outer Space 2
The Strause Bros AVP 3 :P
BATMAN 3 by TIM BURTON starring MICHAEL KEATON.
I always wanted a SYLVESTER STALLONE versus ARNOLD S. action epic when I was a child. I born in 1986 so my Dream film was something like HEAT(Michael Mann) or FACE/OFF(John Woo) but with SLY versus ARNIE.
The Expendables Trilogy and Escape Plan was TOO LATE and too bad quality for me.
Richard Stanley's version of The Island of Doctor Moreau is a film I would loved to have seen and we came so close, before it was ripped from him.
Also Hardware 2: Ground Zero, a much bigger sequel
Splinter of the Minds Eye
Robotech
This would have made a fun movie
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This would have made a fun movie
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I was just reading about that in the FvJ book. It was the Evil Dead camp that sank it, sadly.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 18, 2017, 07:04:43 PM
Robotech
One day.
They made a Star Blazers/Yamato live action a couple years ago.
So there's a chance!
I have a Robotech script from 2008... by the writer of Bone Tomahawk, of all things. I've not had time to read it, though.
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Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 18, 2017, 07:04:43 PM
Robotech
One day.
They made a Star Blazers/Yamato live action a couple years ago.
So there's a chance!
Yeah, in Japan. That just means we'll get a Macross movie instead.
Since Freddy vs Jason came up, I've read five different unused scripts for it. They range from mediocre to god awful, and made the actual movie look like high art by comparison.
One of the alternate endings never made was Freddy and Jason being sent down to hell and then being confronted by Pinhead as the warden.
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Evangelion.
Vin Diesel was forever talking about making a Hannibal movie. Given that he's the star of one of the biggest grossing franchises of all time, I why this one is stalled. I just checked on IMDB pro and it was at script stage in 2006 ("Diesel is scouting locations and working out a script in Greek, Latin and Punic") and has been updated each year as "development unknown" with the last update in 2016. So 10 years of development hell.
Costs for this sort of thing have fallen in terms of having to have zillions of extras and all that... I can't see why this one hasn't happened given this is a big passion piece of his (In other news, as I was looking, I see Fast Furious 10 has been "announced."
I think the world is ready for another AvP movie that isn't connected to the current canon but rather to its own crazy one. I'd like to see it with WS Anderson doing it, too. And I'm not even making that up.
I would also like to see "Plissken" with Kurt Russell and John Carpenter teaming up for one last hurrah. Sort of Snake's "Unforgiven." (I think I said elsewhere on here that I only recently learned that "Ghosts of Mars" was originally a Plissken movie). I really think that would play well and work far better than the ludicrous remake they have planned that doesn't have anything to do with the original (if the plot is anything to go by, if the main character wasn't called Snake Plissken it could be any sci-fi movie. Roberta Hauk. Please. So Robert Plissken and Roberta Hauk. Look, I love BvS, but that's on the "martha" level right there).
And yes - I'm also gutted that "Conan the King" has been *ahem* axed.
Quote from: genocyber on Apr 18, 2017, 10:11:00 PM
One of the alternate endings never made was Freddy and Jason being sent down to hell and then being confronted by Pinhead as the warden.
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That would be cool!!
Quote from: Russ on Apr 20, 2017, 09:24:11 AM
Vin Diesel was forever talking about making a Hannibal movie. Given that he's the star of one of the biggest grossing franchises of all time, I why this one is stalled. I just checked on IMDB pro and it was at script stage in 2006 ("Diesel is scouting locations and working out a script in Greek, Latin and Punic") and has been updated each year as "development unknown" with the last update in 2016. So 10 years of development hell.
Costs for this sort of thing have fallen in terms of having to have zillions of extras and all that... I can't see why this one hasn't happened given this is a big passion piece of his (In other news, as I was looking, I see Fast Furious 10 has been "announced."
I think the world is ready for another AvP movie that isn't connected to the current canon but rather to its own crazy one. I'd like to see it with WS Anderson doing it, too. And I'm not even making that up.
I would also like to see "Plissken" with Kurt Russell and John Carpenter teaming up for one last hurrah. Sort of Snake's "Unforgiven." (I think I said elsewhere on here that I only recently learned that "Ghosts of Mars" was originally a Plissken movie). I really think that would play well and work far better than the ludicrous remake they have planned that doesn't have anything to do with the original (if the plot is anything to go by, if the main character wasn't called Snake Plissken it could be any sci-fi movie. Roberta Hauk. Please. So Robert Plissken and Roberta Hauk. Look, I love BvS, but that's on the "martha" level right there).
And yes - I'm also gutted that "Conan the King" has been *ahem* axed.
Vin Diesel is totally crazy. I remembered he talked about his HANNIBAL in 2007.
He said he wanted Denzel Washington as His Father and Tony Scott(R.I.P.) as The Director.
I think his HANNIBAL is dead. Diesel is a BAD actor. He ISN'T Russell Crowe in GLADIATOR.
Quote from: PierreVW on Apr 20, 2017, 09:35:21 PM
I think his HANNIBAL is dead. Diesel is a BAD actor. He ISN'T Russell Crowe in GLADIATOR.
Well, you could just say he's a method actor in that he plays Vin Diesel in every movie... XD.
But I don't think his skills would have a lot to do with it? Rather, how much money could be made off it. Also... why not HBO? Lots of big stars are appearing on TV now. It just seems strange to me that someone with his draw would struggle so much to get his passion piece made (then again, is he still trying that hard?).
Quote from: Russ on Apr 21, 2017, 08:14:10 AM
Quote from: PierreVW on Apr 20, 2017, 09:35:21 PM
I think his HANNIBAL is dead. Diesel is a BAD actor. He ISN'T Russell Crowe in GLADIATOR.
Well, you could just say he's a method actor in that he plays Vin Diesel in every movie... XD.
But I don't think his skills would have a lot to do with it? Rather, how much money could be made off it. Also... why not HBO? Lots of big stars are appearing on TV now. It just seems strange to me that someone with his draw would struggle so much to get his passion piece made (then again, is he still trying that hard?).
Nobody makes Old Epics these days. Only Sir Ridley Scott made 2: ROBIN HOOD and EXODUS(3D). But that's why Sir Ridley is The King of Epics with GLADIATOR and KINGDOM OF HEAVEN: DIRECTOR´S CUT.
Vin Diesel needs 130-150 Millions for his HANNIBAL. That's impossible money for him. Especially in these kind of Old Epic.
The upcoming version of
It actually looks pretty close to the two drafts I read from Cary Fukunaga - enough so that they kept a lot of actual dialogue and scenes, and Fukunaga and his partner are credited first script-wise. It'll be interesting if they kept some of the changes that apparently pre-dated Fukunaga, like
Spoiler
making one of the "Losers Club" kids gay.
There are a couple changes he made that I doubt are in, which is a shame.
I would've loved to see John Carpenter do Shane Black and Fred Dekker's
Shadow Company, which I've discussed on-board before - a script they wrote for him and Kurt Russell in the '80s, about a zombified squad of Vietnam vets wreaking havoc. I believe it got kiboshed when Carpenter's various big-budget studio projects flopped. I hear his
Creature from the Black Lagoon script is also good but I've yet to read my copy.
Glen Mazzara's
Shining prequel script -
The Overlook Hotel - leans heavily on actual prologue material Stephen King wrote for the original book and deleted, and is way better than it has any right to be.
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 21, 2017, 04:20:32 PM
I hear his Creature from the Black Lagoon script is also good but I've yet to read my copy.
The Bill Phillips draft? That one is pretty good, with a few issues here and there.
QuoteGlen Mazzara's Shining prequel script - The Overlook Hotel - leans heavily on actual prologue material Stephen King wrote for the original book and deleted, and is way better than it has any right to be.
I thought it was great, but the final stretch was a bit weak.
I read JJ's Superman's script before and it would have made Superman 4 look good.
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Apr 21, 2017, 08:51:19 PM
I read JJ's Superman's script that would have made Superman 4 look good.
The worst director of all time McG was directing that script.
The one with the mid-air Kryptonian Kung Fu, right?
Oh God, that shit was dreadful.
I know it's never going to happen for legal reasons, but I would love to see a Batman vs Predator movie in full feature length... Batman Dead End was such a great fan film. Would be a great way to revive the Predator franchise without creating a super/uber Predators 2.6745...
Quote from: KiramidHead on Apr 22, 2017, 04:37:35 AM
The one with the mid-air Kryptonian Kung Fu, right?
It was the one with some guy trying to rape Martha Kent, Superman going to Kryptonian Heaven for 5 minutes before coming back to life and Superman also fighting a giant robot in Gotham.
Quote from: Tangakkai on Apr 22, 2017, 09:41:18 PM
I know it's never going to happen for legal reasons, but I would love to see a Batman vs Predator movie in full feature length... Batman Dead End was such a great fan film. Would be a great way to revive the Predator franchise without creating a super/uber Predators 2.6745...
FOX owns Predator franchise. Warner owns Batman franchise.
Maybe if FOX buys Warner you could see that movie. These days, FOX is bigger than Warner.
I've been reading through my script collection, and John Carpenter's Meltdown would have made for a great movie. The basic description is "Halloween in a nuclear power plant," and there are some well done suspenseful sequences. It also feels like it could stand alongside Carpenter's Apocalypse Trilogy in terms of themes and tone. Hell, a small portion of it was reused for Prince of Darkness.
Yeah, I gotta read that one.
Over the course of roughly 20 years and multiple rewrites, it turns into a Die Hard clone. Quite the interesting shift to read.
DREDD 2
worst cinematic crime
Adam Marcus' (Jason Goes To Hell) idea for FVJ sounds awesome. Freddy and Jason being assassins for Hell, and the return om Tommy Jarvis and Nancy Thompson.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Apr 24, 2017, 04:30:36 AM
Over the course of roughly 20 years and multiple rewrites, it turns into a Die Hard clone. Quite the interesting shift to read.
Which Die Hard clone?.
Quote from: PierreVW on Apr 24, 2017, 02:52:11 PM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Apr 24, 2017, 04:30:36 AM
Over the course of roughly 20 years and multiple rewrites, it turns into a Die Hard clone. Quite the interesting shift to read.
Which Die Hard clone?.
It was never made. The last draft I have reads like a Die Hard clone.
So now that we can add Blomkamp's Alien to this, who wants to join me in my hunt for the script?
Quote from: Anthony on May 02, 2017, 01:15:38 AM
So now that we can add Blomkamp's Alien to this, who wants to join me in my hunt for the script?
I'll keep my eyes peeled. I have my ways of getting scripts, depends on how far anything gets out from industry circles.
If it appears I can find it. I'm frankly not convinced it wholly exists, though; I think there may have been a treatment of some sort, as Ridley says.
Idk about the whole "Treatment" claim. Weaver and Cameron kept calling it a script. There's always the possibility they misspoke though.
Either way, hope we can find something one day.
I've been doing some research for a podcast episode, and have been reading unused Mummy remake scripts from the 90s. The one Joe Dante was going to direct, written by Alan Ormsby and John Sayles, was very good, and was very reverent to the original film. Stephen Sommers even nicked a few ideas from it, namely the stone scarabs burrowing into people. Dante wanted Daniel Day-Lewis to play Imhotep, which would have made for some interesting behind the scenes stories, to say the least.
I love the idea of DDL as Imhotep.
You can just imagine him getting literally wrapped up to prepare for the role.
Lol he buggers off to Egypt for 6 months hiding in the Pyramids lol
"Whoa there's another mummy!"
"Nah that's just Daniel Day Lewis."
RETURN OF THE JEDI by LYNCH
(plus Ewoks eating some STs alive in the end)
Quote from: kwisatz on May 18, 2017, 07:30:57 PM
RETURN OF THE JEDI by LYNCH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PALjbTo1D5U
(plus Ewoks eating some STs alive in the end)
This had ZERO chance.
George Lucas invented Ewoks only because he wanted to won more money from his merchandise. Imagine EVIL Ewoks. That don't sell to little kids.
Lol, all the salt over the Ewoks from people who take SW wayyyy too seriously. :laugh:
Quote from: Anthony on May 17, 2017, 02:16:21 PM
"Whoa there's another mummy!"
"Nah that's just Daniel Day Lewis."
Hahahaha
Quote from: kwisatz on May 18, 2017, 07:30:57 PM
RETURN OF THE JEDI by LYNCH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PALjbTo1D5U
(plus Ewoks eating some STs alive in the end)
WTF? lol
I've been reading the David Webb Peoples Sgt. Rock script, which was written in 1987 with Arnold in mind to star. It's a more than solid World War II story, with some great heart and good battle scenes. There are some weird surreal touches I don't really get, though, and it's just weird imagining Arnold talking about killing "nazzeys" with that accent. :laugh:
I've been reading the unproduced Dennis Etchison drafts for Halloween IV. (I was the one who bought them on eBay a while back). They're interesting reads, and Michael Myers is brought back in such a way that he seems to be around every corner. I do think that one or two characters could be trimmed, though, and the ending is a bit unsatisfying and sudden.
Yeah, I have 'em sitting here but still haven't read 'em.
I have Jon Spaihts' draft of The Mummy. Being that he only has a story credit for the final film, it's likely not much of his material made it in.
Quote from: Anthony on Jun 09, 2017, 12:36:50 AM
I have Jon Spaihts' draft of The Mummy. Being that he only has a story credit for the final film, it's likely not much of his material made it in.
I've read that one myself, and you can tell just from the trailers how little they have in common with each other.
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Jun 08, 2017, 09:42:59 PM
Yeah, I have 'em sitting here but still haven't read 'em.
They're pretty good. The finale at the drive in theater gets incredibly creepy... although it's maybe a little too meta for it's own good regarding the movies that are showing. :laugh:
Ah, I see. I should read it after seeing the film. Also, how do I acquire the Etchison and Carpenter drafts of H IV (and wow that is a hilarious abbreviation).
I read the original Spaihts Mummy draft some time ago - before it was the sexy lady mummy and before there was any Russell Crowe/cinematic universe shit. It was def written for Tom Cruise and was a big blockbuster but it was much less stupid than what this final film appears to be. There are several sequences in the trailers/spots that do appear to be lifted directly from the original draft, though.
Eh, I thought the Spaihts script was about as generic as one could get. And the whole Assyrian mummy thing never really clicked for me.
Speaking of which, I'm currently reading the Kevin Jarre/Lloyd Fonvielle Mummy script from 1996. It has some decent gore scenes, and a few interesting twists on the reincarnation plot, but it mostly doesn't work. It's not helped by the leads being incredibly annoying and unlikable.
And my episode on the different Mummy remake scripts: link (https://soundcloud.com/kiramidhead/mummy-final).
Did finally read the Etchison drafts on H4. Not too many differences between the two that I saw. I agree they weren't perfect (the characters needed beefing up) but there was a lot of fascinating, strange stuff, especially the approach to the Shape which Carpenter must have approved of at the time. (And I wonder if it will resonate in next year's film.) It was bold but I dug it; it seems like the honest conclusion of everything that's been done with him. I also found the ending with the two kids fleeing the town weirdly mythic. The whole story really turned the series and Haddonfield into a kind of dark fairy tale, and I admired that.
If this was the draft Carpenter intended for Joe Dante to shoot, that could've been really something. The drive-in stuff was great.
On the topic of Halloween, what do you guys think of the Halloween Returns script Marcus Dunstan co wrote and was going to direct before Dimension lost the rights?
Quote from: Anthony on Jun 17, 2017, 05:48:26 PM
On the topic of Halloween, what do you guys think of the Halloween Returns script Marcus Dunstan co wrote and was going to direct before Dimension lost the rights?
I didn't much care for it. Thought it was really uninspired.
Is that the one that was another reboot, with a dumb post-credits scene (promising Gary Oldman, no less)? I read that, it was dreadful.
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Jun 18, 2017, 12:04:17 AM
Is that the one that was another reboot, with a dumb post-credits scene (promising Gary Oldman, no less)? I read that, it was dreadful.
Yes, that one. With the completely random Halloween III references.
Also, I read Roger Avary's Castle Wolfenstein script. It was pretty badass, and might have made for one of the better video game movies.
Incidentally, I am finally getting around to reading Glen Mazzara's unmade Shining prequel script (The Overlook Hotel), which is largely inspired by Stephen King's own unused prologue for the original book ("Before the Play"). It's not the greatest work of genius of our times and there is plenty of fan service, but as utterly unnecessary Shining prequels go it's pretty impressive 90+ pages in.
Hoping to get to the Avary takes on either Phantasm or Wolfenstein next. I have a huge backlog I am just now getting to again - been busy working on my own stuff.
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Jun 18, 2017, 06:23:12 AM
Incidentally, I am finally getting around to reading Glen Mazzara's unmade Shining prequel script (The Overlook Hotel), which is largely inspired by Stephen King's own unused prologue for the original book ("Before the Play"). It's not the greatest work of genius of our times and there is plenty of fan service, but as utterly unnecessary Shining prequels go it's pretty impressive 90+ pages in.
I read that one a while back. I liked it a lot, but the last twenty pages or so (everything past the bathtub scene) felt like The Shining done over again.
QuoteHoping to get to the Avary takes on either Phantasm or Wolfenstein next. I have a huge backlog I am just now getting to again - been busy working on my own stuff.
His Phantasm script is fun, but not really Phantasm. Castle Wolfenstein is absolutely insane. Too bad, it would have been among the best video game movies.
I didn't even know The Overlook Hotel script was leaked. Guess that means it's dead (but we haven't heard about it in years, so it's not surprising).
Now that Joss Whedon's Wonder Woman script has leaked, it would be interesting to read. Although i cant find it anywhere
Another film i would have loved to have seen made was Brandon Hood's original script for THEY, which is completely different to the Wes Cravens Presents film we finally got
Jodorowsky's Dune, thanks to which we got Alien by Scott instead but still, I would have loved to see the team make Dune. Giger, Moebius, Dali & co. It would have been quite something, now it's in almost every SF film ::)
Quote from: Whiskeybrewer on Jun 19, 2017, 12:42:30 PM
Now that Joss Whedon's Wonder Woman script has leaked, it would be interesting to read. Although i cant find it anywhere
Another film i would have loved to have seen made was Brandon Hood's original script for THEY, which is completely different to the Wes Cravens Presents film we finally got
The Joss Whedon's Wonder Woman script was very bad.
TOO feministic lines and style.
Just read Left Hand of Darkness, by Guillermo del Toro. It was a surprisingly straight adaptation of The Count of Monte Cristo, only set in Mexico and the count has a clockwork arm... and a dream sequence where a crucifix comes to life and says hey.
Also, I have a few Wonder Woman scripts, but I haven't read them yet. I know that the Alcott draft is supposed to be a major piece of shit, though.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jun 19, 2017, 05:49:47 PM
Just read Left Hand of Darkness, by Guillermo del Toro. It was a surprisingly straight adaptation of The Count of Monte Cristo, only set in Mexico and the count has a clockwork arm... and a dream sequence where a crucifix comes to life and says hey.
Also, I have a few Wonder Woman scripts, but I haven't read them yet. I know that the Alcott draft is supposed to be a major piece of shit, though.
I love THE COUNT OF MONTE CRISTO(the book).
So, I would love that Guillermo Del Toro adaptation even if it is bad. LOL.
I just read Ken Russell's take on Dracula. It had a feel all its own, while still remaining somewhat reverent to the original story, more so than a lot of adaptations. Dracula's characterization alone is new and different, while still remaining the same vampiric villain we know. There are a number of memorable scenes and moments as well. There are some problems, namely some humorous scenes that don't really work, and an ending that slips in saccharine silliness.
Also, I should mention that it's fairly restrained by Ken Russell's standards, so don't expect anything crazy like a crucifix getting molested or femur masturbation. :laugh:
Read a couple of more scripts...
-David Dobkin's Arthur & Lancelot script was decent but flawed take on the material. The tone is all over the place, though, and the sequel hook is kind of crap.
-The Future King, by Ethan Reiff and Cyrus Voris, is a pretty good adaptation of the comic Camelot 3000, with some changes that actually helped the story, IMO.
Also, I'm working on Alex Garland's Halo script. I like it so far, but I know nothing about Halo so it could be shit and I wouldn't have a clue.
Always wondered what Ghostbusters 2 would have ended up like if they hadn't shoved it into the story mold from the first one. The idea of Vigo possessing the Statue of Liberty and the way they beat him by plugging the packs into the ConEdison power box was friggin epic. There's a nod to it in the final product when Stantz tells Vigo to "go knock up some willing hell hound" if he wanted a baby, because Vigo was going to father a child at a Black Sabbath concert with someone who was not Dana.
I was absolutely stoked for Feig's original plot line for the reboot. The villain being the ghost of a serial killer sounded amazing, like Dahmer getting the keys to ultimate power. And they should have kept the plot line about having the killer leaving a manifesto and trying to stay one step ahead.It was great because it was different from the other two.
Hated the new Mummy. All they did was combine Imhotep and Anuk Sun-Amun, and sexualized her in a bland plot line.
Finished off Alex Garland's Halo script. Overall, I liked it. The first thirty pages, up to the mission to rescue Keyes, were a little padded out with action scene after action scene, so they could have been pruned a bit here and there. Other than that, I thought it was a solid effort.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/0/james-camerons-spider-man-greatest-superhero-movie-never-made/
James Cameron and his Spiderman script.
I just got my hands on Shane Black's (60 page!) treatment for Lethal Weapon 5 yesterday. It's pretty damn good, all told, and actually makes Riggs a bit scary and dark again, something the sequels past 2 just let fade away.
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I just got my hands on Shane Black's (60 page!) treatment for Lethal Weapon 5 yesterday. It's pretty damn good, all told, and actually makes Riggs a bit scary and dark again, something the sequels past 2 just let fade away.
Nice lol Didnt realise they'd planned a 5th one
Quote from: Whiskeybrewer on Jul 12, 2017, 10:45:07 AM
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I just got my hands on Shane Black's (60 page!) treatment for Lethal Weapon 5 yesterday. It's pretty damn good, all told, and actually makes Riggs a bit scary and dark again, something the sequels past 2 just let fade away.
Nice lol Didnt realise they'd planned a 5th one
Yeah, there were multiple ideas for it. It fell apart after Richard Dinner and Joel Silver had a out, splitting the camp essentially.
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I just got my hands on Shane Black's (60 page!) treatment for Lethal Weapon 5 yesterday. It's pretty damn good, all told, and actually makes Riggs a bit scary and dark again, something the sequels past 2 just let fade away.
Nice lol Didnt realise they'd planned a 5th one
Yeah, there were multiple ideas for it. It fell apart after Richard Dinner and Joel Silver had a out, splitting the camp essentially.
Typical. But tbf 4 is a good way to end the series. although it did seem to set up Chris Rock as the next generation
Read through the script for George Miller's Justice League movie recently. It was alright, with a fairly good story and somewhat well balance characters. It didn't completely work, though, feeling like two stories stapled together, as well as being more appropriate for a sequel than a first outing. And the hamburgers with evil nanomachines in the secret sauce was just too much. :laugh:
Figured I'd share my new podcast episode (https://soundcloud.com/kiramidhead/friday-final), on the cancelled Friday the 13th reboot scripts.
Also I've read a few other scripts:
-Several Flash scripts, David Goyer's being the best one
-The Overlook Hotel, an interesting enough Shining prequel.
A few others were in there, but I can't quite recall them at the moment.
Still saddens me that we didn't get a new Friday The 13th yesterday. YOU HAD A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY AND YOU BLEW IT PARAMOUNT!
Eh, I'm glad they didn't make the prequel/remake/whatsit.
Yeah same, but I still find it silly how Paramount thought RINGS would determine how Friday The 13th would do.
I still think Nick Antosca's script had a lot of potential.
Antosca's script was great fun, and just needed a few tweaks and fixes.
So I read a Blade Runner sequel script from the late 90s, with the horrendously dumb title of Blade Runner Down, which purports to be based on a novel by K.W. Jeter. I haven't read the book, but I can say that the script is a decent read, but pretty standard sci-fi stuff and not exactly a worthy follow up. We didn't really miss much by getting Blade Runner 2049 instead.
I once visited a comic shop where they sold scripts for movies, and they actually had Blade Runner Down for sale. They also had Andrew Kevin Walker's Batman VS Superman script (though it was a rewrite by Akiva Goldsman).
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I once visited a comic shop where they sold scripts for movies, and they actually had Blade Runner Down for sale. They also had Andrew Kevin Walker's Batman VS Superman script (though it was a rewrite by Akiva Goldsman).
I have that rewrite as well. That's the only version anyone has at the moment.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Oct 19, 2017, 04:58:28 AM
So I read a Blade Runner sequel script from the late 90s, with the horrendously dumb title of Blade Runner Down, which purports to be based on a novel by K.W. Jeter. I haven't read the book, but I can say that the script is a decent read, but pretty standard sci-fi stuff and not exactly a worthy follow up. We didn't really miss much by getting Blade Runner 2049 instead.
I think it was written by the same guy who wrote the Alien 4: Earthbound spec script.
I read the script for Jeepers Creepers 3: Cathedral last week. and I think it could have been a good film. There are some great sequences here and it would have been a great end to the series
I hear the Manic Cop remake script has been uploaded recently and people told me that it would have been a bad remake.
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I hear the Manic Cop remake script has been uploaded recently and people told me that it would have been a bad remake.
I'd like to read it. Ed Brubaker is a good writer.
I reread the script for The Last Voyage of the Demeter. It's pretty good, and works way better than expanding a single chapter of a book into a film should. Neill Marshall was set to direct at one point, but it never got off the ground and now he's busy making the Hellboy reboot nobody asked for.
Went through Halloween 3D by Todd Farmer and Patrick Lussier.
It was....odd.
Apparently Steve Miner, who directed Halloween H20 (and the second and third Friday The 13th movies), was approached to direct, so it could have been entertaining.
I remember that they wanted to do a Lost Footage type of movie for a Friday the 13th movie. Thank god that never happen.
I've been reading through the unproduced Watchmen drafts. Sam Hamm's is a mix of middle of the road adaptations of scenes from the book and really silly shit that's pretty hilarious. "Christ almighty, it's the goddamned Watchmen!" :laugh: The Charles McKeown rewrite hews closer to the comic and jettisons the silly shit, but it had problems of its own.
I did enjoy the Sam Hamm script, especially what they did with the ending
I have no clue what he was thinking with that ending. It was like, "Let's take an Alan Moore story, and make it a whole lot more Grant Morrison!"
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I have no clue what he was thinking with that ending. It was like, "Let's take an Alan Moore story, and make it a whole lot more Grant Morrison!"
That's true when you think about it, but when you don't have the budget form a giant squid alien you gotta do something else
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I have no clue what he was thinking with that ending. It was like, "Let's take an Alan Moore story, and make it a whole lot more Grant Morrison!"
That's true when you think about it, but when you don't have the budget form a giant squid alien you gotta do something else
"Something else" should preferably not insanely off the point. :laugh:
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I have no clue what he was thinking with that ending. It was like, "Let's take an Alan Moore story, and make it a whole lot more Grant Morrison!"
That's true when you think about it, but when you don't have the budget form a giant squid alien you gotta do something else
"Something else" should preferably not insanely off the point. :laugh:
Hahahah yeah true
Also, just read the Gary Goldman Watchmen rewrite from the early 90s. It fixes some things from the Hamm/McKeown versions, like actually showing the Comedian's death and slightly exploring his character, and the silly ending is changed to something closer to the comic (involving a variation on the squid, no less). The majority of the characters are handled badly, though with Manhattan acting like an angsty teenager and Laurie complaining about everything. And the ending kills any sense of moral ambiguity by taking all of the hard decisions away.
Id love to read that one
I've done some more script reading:
-Two Sgt. Rock drafts, one by Steve E. de Souza, which was okay, and one by Milius, which was great. It would have been a well thought of WWII film, IMO.
-A different John Logan draft of I Am Legend, with a completely different ending that hews closer to the book's overall ideas.
-And I'm currently working on Total Recall II, the version based on Minority Report. It's alright so far, even if they feel like a weird combination.
Was Total Recall II supposed to be for Arnie?
Yeah. Verhoeven was even signed on to direct at one point.
Damn - that could have been awesome!
The early 90's Watchmen movie script had a campy 90's superhero movie feel to it. I remember they had Ozymandias as a campy Bond type of villain.
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Damn - that could have been awesome!
Having finished that script, it would have been a fine action/sci-fi movie, but it was more concerned with the Minority Report elements than Total Recall. It didn't even begin to address whether it was all part of Quaid's fantasy or not, for one thing. And it brings Richter back without explanation for the most pointless role ever.
I just finished a draft of Total Recall by David Cronenberg. It was a pretty interesting read, since the first half was very similar to the film, with the main differences in details (Quail sneaks onto Mars successfully disguised as a dwarf, the bug in his skull is handled much more realistically, etc). More or less once he arrives on Mars, the story goes off in a different direction, with the mutants being handled differently, the villains being completely different, the machine has a different purpose, etc. I like the film better, it does more with the reality vs fantasy theme (here spelled out as a misdirect by Earth Intelligence), and is generally a better story IMO.
I really wish that Swamp Thing's reboot had happened. I love Swamp Thing. I remember watching the tv series when I was a kid. Wes Craven's movie is so much fun to watch.
Just recently read Steven E. de Souza's Isobar script, for a Stallone project about a monster on board a futuristic train. It was pretty damn great on the whole, with good set pieces, an intriguing monster, and some genuinely surprising turns. Also I have a podcast episode on it that's currently linked in my sig... >_> <_<
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Just recently read Steven E. de Souza's Isobar script, for a Stallone project about a monster on board a futuristic train. It was pretty damn great on the whole, with good set pieces, an intriguing monster, and some genuinely surprising turns. Also I have a podcast episode on it that's currently linked in my sig... >_> <_<
Was it a, this is so good Im changing my podcast plans for this month kinda script?
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Quote from: KiramidHead on Jan 21, 2018, 05:45:42 AM
Just recently read Steven E. de Souza's Isobar script, for a Stallone project about a monster on board a futuristic train. It was pretty damn great on the whole, with good set pieces, an intriguing monster, and some genuinely surprising turns. Also I have a podcast episode on it that's currently linked in my sig... >_> <_<
Was it a, this is so good Im changing my podcast plans for this month kinda script?
Considering I had no January plans, no.
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Just recently read Steven E. de Souza's Isobar script, for a Stallone project about a monster on board a futuristic train. It was pretty damn great on the whole, with good set pieces, an intriguing monster, and some genuinely surprising turns. Also I have a podcast episode on it that's currently linked in my sig... >_> <_<
Was it a, this is so good Im changing my podcast plans for this month kinda script?
Considering I had no January plans, no.
Lol well it was fortuitous then
Berserker
starring Arnold Schwarzenegger, directed by Stuart Gordon (Re-Animator, From Beyond)
"a wrestler loses his mind because of super- steroids and goes on a killing spree"
Anyone got that script? ;D
Once wrote down a bunch of (silly) ideas for movies.
Should I post them here or in a new topic and keep this one for actual scripts?
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Berserker
starring Arnold Schwarzenegger, directed by Stuart Gordon (Re-Animator, From Beyond)
"a wrestler loses his mind because of super- steroids and goes on a killing spree"
Holy shit that sounds awesome.
It could have been one of the greatest post-apocalyptic movies.
I Am LegendDirector: Ridley Scott
Starting: Arnold Schwarzenegger
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Warner Brothers sat on the rights to I Am Legend for many years until they decided to dust them off again around the mid-1990s. They reached out to screenwriter Mark Protosevich (The Cell) to write a draft, which instantly became the toast of the town. Seemingly everyone read Protosevich's script, and soon names like Tom Cruise and Michael Douglas were circling the project.
Protosevich's draft had little to do with the book – a recurring factor with the movies based around it – and turbocharged the concept into a full on blockbuster. The vampires now became 'Hemocytes', intelligent creatures with emaciated physiques and terrifying speed and agility. There's a lot of great character work in there too, with Protosevich managing to capture Neville's overwhelming loneliness.
The studio eventually decided on Arnold Schwarzenegger for the lead, and hired Ridley Scott to helm it. Scott apparently wasn't a major fan of Protosevich's work, however, eschewing his draft in favour of a new one by John Logan. Scott saw the potential to turn this high concept idea into a merging of blockbuster and art movie, and his ambitious plans are what ultimately doomed the project.
For one thing, he planned to trim dialogue to the bone, with the first act being near silent. The audience would follow Arnie's Neville while he scavenged the ruins of Los Angeles, and occasionally fended off attacks from Hemocytes, who in this draft had returned to the feral state of the novel. Neville captures one of these creatures and forms a bond with her, hoping he can cure her and maybe save the rest of the infected.
Scott wanted to reinvent Schwarzenegger's onscreen persona, showing the action icon struggling with grief and depression without any quips to lean on. He may not be the most gifted of thespians, though anyone who saw his restrained turn in Maggie will know he can rise to the challenge with the right project.
Since it's Ridley Scott we're talking about he obviously wasn't going to let the chance to realise a post-apocalyptic world pass him by. He employed famed storyboard artist Sylvain Despretz to sketch out his vision, leading to some stunning artwork that's the closest we'll get to seeing Scott's version. According to Despretz, the storyboard work was basically him transcribing Scott's ideas from page one, with the director having a very precise idea of how he envisioned the movie.
Scott also collaborated with effects company Studio ADI on the look of the creatures. The plan was for the Hemocytes to be incredibly skinny but also statuesque, with the creatures having taken to wrapping themselves in plastic and trash to stay safe from the sun. They also would have indulged in tribal body painting and symbols, to give them just a hint of intelligence. In 2013 ADI released videos of their makeup on I Am Legend to YouTube, displaying the nightmarish designs Scott had in mind.
Despite the immense promise of the project, a number of factors brought it down. Firstly, Warner Bros was coming off a string of failures, including The Postman and Batman & Robin. They were seeking sure-fire hits and didn't feel a downbeat R-rated blockbuster was a sound investment. They also felt it cost too much, with Arnold's hefty salary swallowing a decent chunk of the budget.
The failure of Batman & Robin didn't do much for Arnie's bankability either. Scott himself was coming off a string of box office duds (White Squall, G.I. Jane) and the movie lacked merchandise potential; the market for action figures based around a depressed, alcoholic Arnold Schwarzenegger is presumably a niche one. Scott worked to reduce the budget but the plug was pulled, alongside Tim Burton's pricy blockbuster Superman Lives.
Scott has never been terribly sentimental so he doesn't openly lament the project. Since its demise freed him up to make Gladiator – the movie credited with reigniting his career – he might even view it as lucky. For fans of the book or thoughtful sci-fi in general however, it ranks as a tragic missed opportunity. It had a great script, a unique combo of star and director and would have been a rare big budget studio movie that relied on mood and emotion instead of action.
http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/movies/i-am-legend/43440/the-legend-of-ridley-scott-s-i-am-legend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY_MYfueEOs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY_MYfueEOs)
The John Logan drafts are excellent.
I assume you have read them :)
I've read two of them, and I've read one Protosevich draft as well.
Speaking of unmade Ridley Scott films, how about that Monopoly film he was gonna do at one point?:
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/how-monopoly-movie-went-from-ridley-scott-comedy-108887644997.html
So I read the unproduced Coleman Luck script for Escape from L.A.. Weird does not even begin to describe it. I have no clue at all where to begin.
well was it better than what we got?
Quote from: Whiskeybrewer on Feb 12, 2018, 12:24:27 PM
well was it better than what we got?
Uh, yes
and no? :laugh: It has more of a unique identity and better bad guys, but some of it is almost too weird and the ending is abrupt. It also randomly tags itself as a prequel at the literal last minute, which makes no sense.
Possibly mentioned before, but Jodorowsky's Dune.
Also would have loved if Cameron directed Battle Angel instead of the million Avatar sequels.
Now it is made by Rodriguez.
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well was it better than what we got?
Uh, yes and no? :laugh: It has more of a unique identity and better bad guys, but some of it is almost too weird and the ending is abrupt. It also randomly tags itself as a prequel at the literal last minute, which makes no sense.
Hahahaha sounds hysterical
Just this week I read the Ghost Rider 2 treatment that the Drive Angry guys wrote. It had it's rough patches, but it would have been interesting to see how they would have executed it.
Interesting. On the topic of the folks behind Drive Angry, I read their Halloween 3D script (which was supposed to be a followup to Rob Zombie's films) and....uh, well, it's not very good, and I can see why it was canned.
Also, I looked up some of the concept art for the canned Hellraiser reboot that Patrick Lussier was gonna direct, and it looks pretty neat.
Yeah, I've read that they had to write Halloween 3D in the space of two weeks, or something crazy like that.
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Also, I looked up some of the concept art for the canned Hellraiser reboot that Patrick Lussier was gonna direct, and it looks pretty neat.
That the one from Barker's Devil's Island set script?
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Also, I looked up some of the concept art for the canned Hellraiser reboot that Patrick Lussier was gonna direct, and it looks pretty neat.
That the one from Barker's Devil's Island set script?
No, I believe it was supposed to be a prequel focused on Uncle Frank getting the box.
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Yeah, I've read that they had to write Halloween 3D in the space of two weeks, or something crazy like that.
Dang, really? It shows lol.
Guess that's not too surprising though, since Dimension announced an October 2012 date for it just a year in advance if I recall correctly.
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Yeah, I've read that they had to write Halloween 3D in the space of two weeks, or something crazy like that.
Dang, really? It shows lol.
Guess that's not too surprising though, since Dimension announced an October 2012 date for it just a year in advance if I recall correctly.
Farmer talks about it here (http://wendago.com/2010/01/08/september-rain/).
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Also, I looked up some of the concept art for the canned Hellraiser reboot that Patrick Lussier was gonna direct, and it looks pretty neat.
That the one from Barker's Devil's Island set script?
No, I believe it was supposed to be a prequel focused on Uncle Frank getting the box.
Oh right, actually didn't know about that one
Been reading Roger Avary's Sandman script since I finished up the Wolfenstein episode. It's actually very good so far. He's rewriting the Ted Elliott and Terry Rossio draft, and smoothing out a few of the rougher bits of that draft, but they both condense the first two arcs of the comic pretty well. Too bad Jon Peters had to f**k it all up.
So now that the Suspiria re-do is coming soon, any way we could find a script for David Gordon Green's attempt from a decade ago?
I've seen one person mention it, no clue how easy it would be to get a hold of.
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Been reading Roger Avary's Sandman script since I finished up the Wolfenstein episode. It's actually very good so far. He's rewriting the Ted Elliott and Terry Rossio draft, and smoothing out a few of the rougher bits of that draft, but they both condense the first two arcs of the comic pretty well. Too bad Jon Peters had to f**k it all up.
Lol always the way
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Been reading Roger Avary's Sandman script since I finished up the Wolfenstein episode. It's actually very good so far. He's rewriting the Ted Elliott and Terry Rossio draft, and smoothing out a few of the rougher bits of that draft, but they both condense the first two arcs of the comic pretty well. Too bad Jon Peters had to f**k it all up.
Lol always the way
Elliott and Rossio tell a story on their web site about how Peters was so dense that it took them twenty minutes to explain to him the basic concept of Dream being captured and losing his tools. :laugh:
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Been reading Roger Avary's Sandman script since I finished up the Wolfenstein episode. It's actually very good so far. He's rewriting the Ted Elliott and Terry Rossio draft, and smoothing out a few of the rougher bits of that draft, but they both condense the first two arcs of the comic pretty well. Too bad Jon Peters had to f**k it all up.
Lol always the way
Elliott and Rossio tell a story on their web site about how Peters was so dense that it took them twenty minutes to explain to him the basic concept of Dream being captured and losing his tools. :laugh:
lol #F**kPeters? nah doesnt have that ring to it lol
Diverting away from franchise films, here's an unmade original film: Harmony Korine's The Trap.
This was supposed to be the followup to his 2013 breakout film Spring Breakers (which itself has had a sequel stuck in development hell). The plot goes like this:
"Rico is at the top of his career [as a gangster rapper] and about to enjoy a triumphant night at the Grammy Awards when Slim is released from prison after 14 years. Slim is determined to exact revenge after learning that Rico not only achieved fame and fortune but also married his girlfriend and raised Slim's son as his own. Slim's plot includes recruiting a crew of Uzi-wielding surfers led by Max, as well as enlisting the help of Rico's cocaine-happy manager."
The film was gonna have Jamie Foxx as the lead at one point, before being recast with Idris Elba. Other cast members included Benicio del Toro as Slim, Robert Pattinson as Max, James Franco as the manager and Al Pacino as Slim's parole officer.
Apparently, Korine was just two weeks from shooting before an issue with one of the actors happened. Filming got pushed back, and eventually it was scrapped, and he moved on to The Beach Bum (which will probably be out this year).
This sounds insane, and even if he won't be able to get back the same cast, I hope Korine comes back to it after Beach Bum comes out.
Also, he's talked about an adaptation of the Alissa Nutting novel Tampa, but there haven't been any updates since its initial announcement.
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Diverting away from franchise films, here's an unmade original film: Harmony Korine's The Trap.
This was supposed to be the followup to his 2013 breakout film Spring Breakers (which itself has had a sequel stuck in development hell). The plot goes like this:
"Rico is at the top of his career [as a gangster rapper] and about to enjoy a triumphant night at the Grammy Awards when Slim is released from prison after 14 years. Slim is determined to exact revenge after learning that Rico not only achieved fame and fortune but also married his girlfriend and raised Slim's son as his own. Slim's plot includes recruiting a crew of Uzi-wielding surfers led by Max, as well as enlisting the help of Rico's cocaine-happy manager."
The film was gonna have Jamie Foxx as the lead at one point, before being recast with Idris Elba. Other cast members included Benicio del Toro as Slim, Robert Pattinson as Max, James Franco as the manager and Al Pacino as Slim's parole officer.
Apparently, Korine was just two weeks from shooting before an issue with one of the actors happened. Filming got pushed back, and eventually it was scrapped, and he moved on to The Beach Bum (which will probably be out this year).
This sounds insane, and even if he won't be able to get back the same cast, I hope Korine comes back to it after Beach Bum comes out.
Also, he's talked about an adaptation of the Alissa Nutting novel Tampa, but there haven't been any updates since its initial announcement.
Lol this seems so bats**t crazy. it makes Kids seem normal lol
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Lol this seems so bats**t crazy. it makes Kids seem normal lol
Well Korine's filmography have never been "normal" to put it simply. After all, he made a film called Trash Humpers.
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Lol this seems so bats**t crazy. it makes Kids seem normal lol
Well Korine's filmography have never been "normal" to put it simply. After all, he made a film called Trash Humpers.
Umshini Wam was also another of his bizarro short films. I think it might even have inspired Chappie to a degree.
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Lol this seems so bats**t crazy. it makes Kids seem normal lol
Well Korine's filmography have never been "normal" to put it simply. After all, he made a film called Trash Humpers.
That's true lol
I've been giving David S. Goyer's 2001 drafts of Ghost Rider a read. They're interesting and weird, since despite being written over ten years previously, they were more or less adapted into Spirit of Vengeance. They're darker and more horror based, though, and not set in Eastern Europe for budgetary reasons lol. It did bug the hell out of me that it's never explained what the devil wants with the kid in Goyer's version, though, and he just kind of gives up and walks away when Blaze won't hand her over. :laugh:
I remember David S. Goyer also wrote another story draft for Ghost Rider back in 1995. I remember it was mostly having Ghost Rider fighting the Mafia and they summon Black Heart with a demon summing book.
Yeah, the 95 script wasn't very good. It's like 90% Johnny sets one hand on fire and hellifies a shotgun. :laugh:
Nicolas Winding Refn has a ton of unmade projects that sound intriguing.
- An adaptation of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde with Keanu Reeves starring.
- Was going to direct Paul Schrader's (Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, Mishima) script The Dying Of The Light with Harrison Ford, but it fell apart due to creative differences. Schrader would end up directing it with a different cast.
- Was in talks to direct Magic Mike before Steven Soderbergh took the job.
- Dropped out of the 2014 film adaptation of the tv show The Equalizer
- Was offered the job to do the 24th James Bond film, Spectre.
And while it hasn't been confirmed to be dead, he was going to direct a spy film called The Avenging Silence as his followup to The Neon Demon, but is now doing the first season of the upcoming show Too Old To Die Young. Hopefully he'll get back to the former after finishing it up.
He also expressed interest in making a Wonder Woman movie with Christina Hendricks, and adapting Jodorowsky's The Incal.
On a side note, I'm trying to read Goyer's Venom script from the 90s. Having to deal with the lack of Spider-Man is one thing, but Eddie Brock being a whiny sad sack, as well as both Venom and Carnage being saddled cringe-tastic dialogue (the latter even mentions his symbiote enhanced penis at one point) are making it very difficult. And Brock at one point compares the situation to War of the Gargantuas, but can't even get the basic details of that movie correct. :laugh:
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He also expressed interest in making a Wonder Woman movie with Christina Hendricks, and adapting Jodorowsky's The Incal.
On a side note, I'm trying to read Goyer's Venom script from the 90s. Having to deal with the lack of Spider-Man is one thing, but Eddie Brock being a whiny sad sack, as well as both Venom and Carnage being saddled cringe-tastic dialogue (the latter even mentions his symbiote enhanced penis at one point) are making it very difficult. And Brock at one point compares the situation to War of the Gargantuas, but can't even get the basic details of that movie correct. :laugh:
Holy crap, that sounds horrible.
Venom has had a ton of scripts for it as well. The writers of Zombieland and Deadpool wrote a script years back, Gary Ross (Pleasantville, The Hunger Games) wrote a draft, and Danter Harper, one of the writers for Covenant, did a draft before Tom Hardy came on board.
Wish we'd got a Last Airbender trilogy. Should have been huge, considering the quality of the source material, but Shyamalan completely screwed up the first one in every conceivable way...
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He also expressed interest in making a Wonder Woman movie with Christina Hendricks, and adapting Jodorowsky's The Incal.
On a side note, I'm trying to read Goyer's Venom script from the 90s. Having to deal with the lack of Spider-Man is one thing, but Eddie Brock being a whiny sad sack, as well as both Venom and Carnage being saddled cringe-tastic dialogue (the latter even mentions his symbiote enhanced penis at one point) are making it very difficult. And Brock at one point compares the situation to War of the Gargantuas, but can't even get the basic details of that movie correct. :laugh:
Holy crap, that sounds horrible.
Venom has had a ton of scripts for it as well. The writers of Zombieland and Deadpool wrote a script years back, Gary Ross (Pleasantville, The Hunger Games) wrote a draft, and Danter Harper, one of the writers for Covenant, did a draft before Tom Hardy came on board.
Yeah, I'd love to read the draft from the Deadpool writers, which they wrote in 2009 or so. Sadly, Kim Jong-Un didn't hook us up with that one with his mad hacking skills. :laugh:
Also, I wanted to point out that Cletus Kasady's portrayal in the script reads like Goyer took an aside glance at the prison interview scene from Natural Born Killers, and went from there. Only minus the stuff that makes Mickey Knox interesting. :laugh:
I recently read the unproduced adaptation of The Talisman by Richard LaGravanese, the writer of The Fisher King. It had it's moments, namely nailing Sunlight Gardener and the associated parts of the book, but most of it suffered from stuffing too much in too little space. And considering that the script is 142 pages long, that's really saying something. Dropping Speedy Parker and severely cutting down the final third (Jack finds the Talisman in a storage unit, for f**k's sake) are the worst bits.
I'm reading through several Superman Lives scripts for a podcast episode. Let's just say that between Brainiac aping Mr. Burns, Lex Luthor trying to control the internet, and Superman saying "fade back to my crib", it's been a a ridiculous ride.
I've read a few scripts:
-The Legend of Conan, by Will Beall: This is a mostly good sequel, which handles an aging Conan very well, with a decent overall plot. There is one massive continuity f**k up with the original movie that sticks out like a sore thumb, though.
-The Northmen, by John Milius: Entertaining Viking epic, with a lot of ass kicking and memorable scenes.
-Suspiria, by David Gordon Green and Chris Gebert: This doesn't really get interesting until the third act. The first sixty pages are more or less a repeat of different scenes from the original movie, with new stuff spliced in. The last thirty get pretty good, with an insane finale that follows the outline of the original, but goes even crazier.
-Resident Evil, by George Romero: Granted, the dialogue is really, really bad, but everything else is so much better than the movies we actually got.
Reading the original script for Goldeneye when it was still going to be Dalton.
Im enjoying it
Geofrey Darrow, comic book artist talks about unfinished adult animation with Ridley Scott.
QuoteDarrow has shaped contemporary film culture with his work on The Matrix, but he was first approached by one of the most famous directors of all time to create an adult animation show that sadly never came to be.
"The first thing that I ever worked on movie wise was during the time when The Simpsons was extremely popular. Suddenly all the networks wanted to do an adult show. So I get this call and they said 'Ridley Scott wants you to design an animated film and an animated TV show.' He was so amazing, he called me up and said, 'Hello, Mr. Darrow. This is Ridley Scott.' Then he goes 'I'm a film director' and he gave me his resume! He never assumed that I knew who he was, which I thought was amazing. I know so many guys even in comics who walk in and say 'Do you know who I am?' No, and I don't want to! At that time, he was such a nice and open minded guy. He gave me his home number and told me to call anytime. His assistant said 'Don't ever call him without calling me first.' But Ridley Scott was like, 'Call me. Come to my house. Anytime.' and then he flew me down to the Cannes Film Festival. We went to see Thelma and Louise."
"That was the first time I got asked to work in film. It never happened. I did a couple drawings and that was it was. He'd seen Akira and he said he wanted to do better than that every week! I told him 'Mr. Scott, you're going to have to go to Japan because you don't have those kind of animators in the United States and they're all pretty busy and you're never going to find anybody who can do that much about quality in a week.' He just kept saying 'That's okay, we'll make it happen.' But it never happened."
https://www.slashfilm.com/geof-darrow-interview/2/
I wonder what it meant to be.
Until today, I never heard before of 'Indiana Jones and the Saucermen from Mars' (http://indianajones.wikia.com/wiki/Indiana_Jones_and_the_Saucermen_from_Mars), neither of 'Frankenstein vs. Godzilla' (http://godzilla.wikia.com/wiki/Frankenstein_vs._Godzilla):
Also, have a look at this awesome imperial destroyer-esque Enterprise by Ralph McQuarrie for 'Star Trek: Planet of the Titans' (http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Trek:_Planet_of_the_Titans):
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I like the idea of Hunter, but I'm glad it's not a Rambo movie.
Also, currently reading a Robotech movie script... by the Bone Tomahawk guy. Yes, that really is a thing that exists.
Bumping this with a link to my newest podcast episode (https://soundcloud.com/kiramidhead/screenplay-archaeology-episode-46-the-narrow-caves), on The Narrow Caves, a horror script by Bone Tomahawk writer S. Craig Zahler.
Literal Pic FTW ;)
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Literal Pic FTW ;)
Decided not to agonize over the thumbnail for once.
The first Freddy vs Jason teaser, slapped together from stock footage and epic voice guy narration when New Line hadn't even decided on a script yet.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5wus2evKG4
The first Freddy vs Jason teaser, slapped together from stock footage and epic voice guy narration when New Line hadn't even decided on a script yet.
Love the fact that the stock footage was all Supernatural elements. Which they probably should have done in the final film lol
While not exactly an unmade movie, I believe we are dealing with an unreleased movie, so.
https://twitter.com/BDisgusting/status/1061534757702504448
Colour me intrigued. Must have been found when they discovered all those unmade scripts of his
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Commando II could have been glorious. :laugh:
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Commando II could have been glorious. :laugh:
LMFAO
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Commando II could have been glorious. :laugh:
LMFAO
So awesome :D
What happend ? Why were we deprived of such a cinematic masterpiece ?
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Commando II could have been glorious. :laugh:
LMFAO
So awesome :D
What happend ? Why were we deprived of such a cinematic masterpiece ?
I can't find any info about that. My best guess is that Arnold was busy with Total Recall and Kindergarten Cop, since the draft is dated 1989.
And here's the podcast episode (https://soundcloud.com/kiramidhead/screenplay-archaeology-episode-47-commando-ii) on the Commando II script.
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And here's the podcast episode (https://soundcloud.com/kiramidhead/screenplay-archaeology-episode-47-commando-ii) on the Commando II script.
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Just finished reading Wes Craven's script for A Nightmare on Elm Street 3. I blazed through it in one sitting. I enjoyed it, but I prefer the version we got.
Does anyone have a copy of the Jurassic Park III script that they threw out a few weeks before production? I've always wanted to read that one. And hopefully the Tremors 5: the Thunder Down Under script pops up one day. I always liked the mental image of Paul Hogan vs. Graboids, Shriekers and Ass-Blasters in the Outback.
I know there are Jurassic Park 3 drafts out there, but I have no clue as to which ones are which.
IIRC the one that they threw out prior to production was the one where people were dying on the mainland and the twist was that it was Pteranodons. The entire cast signed on to shoot that one and it literally got thrown out a few weeks before shooting started.
Checked some lists, and the only draft is by the same writers and is only 98 pages, so I doubt it's any different.
Also, I've been reading an Escape from New York remake draft from 2007. It's pretty good so far, but it hits a few too many of the same beats as the original and the flashbacks to Snake's past are very clunkily inserted into the plot.
Currently reading an old draft of Meg from the 90s. It's okay enough, I guess, and closer to the book than the movie was.
Reading a Hulk script where one of the bad guys is a giant hummingbird. -_-
https://twitter.com/BDisgusting/status/1087390791738241025
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I have a draft of that. Haven't read it yet, though.
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Lol had no idea this was a thing
Working my way through the pile of unproduced S. Craig Zahler scripts, and I only have two left. Most range from pretty good to great, the only real disappointment being Robotech.
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Working my way through the pile of unproduced S. Craig Zahler scripts, and I only have two left. Most range from pretty good to great, the only real disappointment being Robotech.
You could do a podcast dedicated to him lol
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Working my way through the pile of unproduced S. Craig Zahler scripts, and I only have two left. Most range from pretty good to great, the only real disappointment being Robotech.
You could do a podcast dedicated to him lol
That's a f**k load of scripts for one episode, goddamn. XD
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Working my way through the pile of unproduced S. Craig Zahler scripts, and I only have two left. Most range from pretty good to great, the only real disappointment being Robotech.
You could do a podcast dedicated to him lol
That's a f**k load of scripts for one episode, goddamn. XD
Lol would probably still be shorter than the Alien 3 podcast lmao
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Working my way through the pile of unproduced S. Craig Zahler scripts, and I only have two left. Most range from pretty good to great, the only real disappointment being Robotech.
You could do a podcast dedicated to him lol
That's a f**k load of scripts for one episode, goddamn. XD
Lol would probably still be shorter than the Alien 3 podcast lmao
Actually no. Two of them are in the ball park of 160 pages.
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Working my way through the pile of unproduced S. Craig Zahler scripts, and I only have two left. Most range from pretty good to great, the only real disappointment being Robotech.
You could do a podcast dedicated to him lol
That's a f**k load of scripts for one episode, goddamn. XD
Lol would probably still be shorter than the Alien 3 podcast lmao
Actually no. Two of them are in the ball park of 160 pages.
Epics
And Robotech is 150 something pages. Yikes.
I'm now reading the rejected fantasy based script for the Super Mario Bros. movie. It's fun so far.
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And Robotech is 150 something pages. Yikes.
I'm now reading the rejected fantasy based script for the Super Mario Bros. movie. It's fun so far.
I still need to get round to reading that one
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And Robotech is 150 something pages. Yikes.
I'm now reading the rejected fantasy based script for the Super Mario Bros. movie. It's fun so far.
I still need to get round to reading that one
Mario is a little too much of an asshole at times, but otherwise it's an entertaining read. I think fans would have been more responsive to it as a film, at any rate. It has f**king everything in it, too. There's even a bit where Mario, Luigi, and Toad play hot potato with a bob-omb like the Three Stooges heh.
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And Robotech is 150 something pages. Yikes.
I'm now reading the rejected fantasy based script for the Super Mario Bros. movie. It's fun so far.
I still need to get round to reading that one
Mario is a little too much of an asshole at times, but otherwise it's an entertaining read. I think fans would have been more responsive to it as a film, at any rate. It has f**king everything in it, too. There's even a bit where Mario, Luigi, and Toad play hot potato with a bob-omb like the Three Stooges heh.
Now that sounds like it would have been great on screen
Some scripts I read recently:
The Architects of Fear: This is adapted from an Outer Limits episode I haven't seen, and the premise was interesting enough. I did find myself wondering why anyone would go along with such a crazy plan, though.
The Texas Rangers: Original draft by John Milius. Really well done gritty Western on the whole. Shame Savoy scrapped it because they didn't want Tommy Lee Jones in the lead.
Crusade: Could have been one of Arnold's best, smartest movies, but apparently Cutthroat Island was considered a safer bet, budget wise. Oops.
I'm also midway through an adaptation of Dante's Inferno (the game), and am about to start reading a script based on The Prisoner, which will be the next episode.
Quite a mix there then
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Crusade: Could have been one of Arnold's best, smartest movies.
Wasn't Paul Verhoeven considered to direct that one? Even more of a missed opportunity if so.
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Crusade: Could have been one of Arnold's best, smartest movies.
Wasn't Paul Verhoeven considered to direct that one? Even more of a missed opportunity if so.
He was definitely directing it. He also killed the project when he wouldn't say he could make the movie for a certain budget.
A shame.
Quick script update:
-Dante's Inferno: a pretty decent script on it's own terms, but it missed what were the most compelling elements of the game for me. Instead of being a redemption story for Dante, he's a basically decent guy who has to stop Satan from getting a magic metal thingy. Yeah, not great.
-I also read one of the unproduced John Carter of Mars scripts, this one being The Chronicles of John Carter: Edgar Rice Burroughs's A Princess of Mars (holy f**k, that title sucks more than the actual movie's), by Ted Elliott and Terry Rossio. Overall it was a very good take on the material, minus oversimplifying how Carter gets to Mars a bit too much, and tacking on the bad guys' plot threatening Earth. And I mean tacked on, it's brought up once and Carter never even hears about it. Other than that, it was a fun read.
-And finally, William Monahan's adaptation of Blood Meridian. It's been a good few years since I've read the book, but from what I remember of it, the script got the overall gist of it. It was too toned down, though, and what Monahan did to the ending was just plain wrong.
A google doc was recently put together covering all of the unmade Halloween movies (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mOrCU4YYU0grgEI3KVY0FlXWTzREHsoxRBXn_hKKEgs/edit), as well as rumors.
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A google doc was recently put together covering all of the unmade Halloween movies (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mOrCU4YYU0grgEI3KVY0FlXWTzREHsoxRBXn_hKKEgs/edit), as well as rumors.
Nice
QuoteThe idea of adapting the series into a Hollywood blockbuster cropped up after the anime's initial success, but the film went through years of false starts and stops, and eventually stalled in "Development Hell." Why did this attempt to make a film fail and will we ever see a live-action Evangelion film?
Gainax, the studio behind Evangelion, and ADV Films, which licensed and distributed the series in North America, first approached Weta Workshop about Evangelion in 2002. It was a perfect confluence of two companies at the peak of their influence. ADV saw massive profits in its sector because of the monumental success of Pokemon and the boom of the Cartoon Network television block Toonami, which featured shows Dragon Ball Z, Sailor Moon, Cowboy Bebop, and Mobile Suit Gundam Wing. The Japanese anime marketplace in the United States was peaking, and a bubble ready to pop, making it an urgent moment for the feature film.
https://twitter.com/Polygon/status/1143894261089341445
That one certainly sounds interesting. Speaking of anime adaptations, I finally read all of the American Death Note scripts I was able to get my hands on, and apart from the early one with no Shinigami and Luke/Light being possessed by the notebook instead of embracing his own ambition, even the drafts by the writers credited on the final movie are all head and shoulders above what we got, having none of the biggest problems the movie had. It boggles the mind, really.
Vincent Ward's Alien 3.
Alien: Engineers.
Peter Briggs' AVP.
Here is some concept art from a cancelled Turok movie. Greg Russo, the director for the upcoming Mortal Kombat reboot, was involved with this project as well as Neil Marshall, the director of the Descent and the recent Hellboy reboot. https://twitter.com/WriterRusso/status/1179269814981976065
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Here is some concept art from a cancelled Turok movie. Greg Russo, the director for the upcoming Mortal Kombat reboot, was involved with this project as well as Neil Marshall, the director of the Descent and the recent Hellboy reboot. https://twitter.com/WriterRusso/status/1179269814981976065
Entertaining games. Dino Crisis is my favorite though. But in general, I'm not sure about a movie. However, Pokemon's liveaction seems to have broken the "curse" so to speak. :laugh:
I've been rereading the Nottingham script. It's not perfect, but it overall a pretty well done and interesting take on the Robin Hood story. It's such a shame that Scott and Crowe meddled with it and made such a meh film out of it.
Quote from: DarthJoker45 on Oct 04, 2019, 06:29:39 PM
Here is some concept art from a cancelled Turok movie. Greg Russo, the director for the upcoming Mortal Kombat reboot, was involved with this project as well as Neil Marshall, the director of the Descent and the recent Hellboy reboot. https://twitter.com/WriterRusso/status/1179269814981976065
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This sounds like a cool one -
QuoteConcept art and test shots from Willis O'Brien's War Eagles, a film that would have followed up O'Brien's triumph, King Kong. The script was by Cyril Hume, who wrote all the MGM Tarzan films and Forbidden Planet. The plot is that explorers find a lost valley filled with a lost tribe of Vikings who ride giant eagles. In the finale, the Nazis would attack New York with a zeppelin fleet and attackw with something like an early EMP, only to be defeated by our hero with an army of giant eagles.
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I want to see that now
I second that.
I'm currently reading the I Am Legend prequel script by D.B. Weiss (I know, I know, GoT Season 8, blahblahblah), and so far it's a mostly competently written script that suffers from the usual prequel issues, like a lack of tension since you the main character will survive. And certain things just don't quite jive with the first movie. Also, it actually opens with a callback to that wtf Shrek scene. :laugh:
Willis O'Brien's King Kong vs Frankenstein is another big 'what if'...
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Quote from: Gilfryd on Mar 27, 2020, 11:43:02 PM
Willis O'Brien's King Kong vs Frankenstein is another big 'what if'...
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It's a big 'what if' even with the Frankenstein design, which looks like a bald Gigantopithecus :laugh:
Yeah, it would essentially a big ape vs... another big ape.
https://www.instagram.com/p/B9_uy_llDJQ/?utm_source=ig_embed
Mah boy Aquaman looking badass. 8)
Speaking about Super Heroes :laugh:
I'm guessing most of the Valiant Cinematic Universe will end up in here in a few years. :laugh:
Did you know that Memo Del Toro was working in his own take on The Count Of Monte Cristo ??? which according to what I've read was like Wild Wild West but Gothic or something (https://i.imgur.com/2PURFiH.png?1)
https://twitter.com/RealGDT/status/1067074218217676801?s
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 28, 2020, 09:33:51 PM
Did you know that Memo Del Toro was working in his own take on The Count Of Monte Cristo ??? which according to what I've read was like Wild Wild West but Gothic or something https://i.imgur.com/2PURFiH.png?1
https://twitter.com/RealGDT/status/1067074218217676801?s
I've read a draft, titled The Left Hand of Darkness. It's set in 1860s Mexico and Dantes acquires a steampunk robot arm.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Mar 28, 2020, 11:02:45 PM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 28, 2020, 09:33:51 PM
Did you know that Memo Del Toro was working in his own take on The Count Of Monte Cristo ??? which according to what I've read was like Wild Wild West but Gothic or something https://i.imgur.com/2PURFiH.png?1
https://twitter.com/RealGDT/status/1067074218217676801?s
I've read a draft, titled The Left Hand of Darkness. It's set in 1860s Mexico and Dantes acquires a steampunk robot arm.
Was it good, bad or something in between?
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 29, 2020, 12:18:36 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Mar 28, 2020, 11:02:45 PM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 28, 2020, 09:33:51 PM
Did you know that Memo Del Toro was working in his own take on The Count Of Monte Cristo ??? which according to what I've read was like Wild Wild West but Gothic or something https://i.imgur.com/2PURFiH.png?1
https://twitter.com/RealGDT/status/1067074218217676801?s
I've read a draft, titled The Left Hand of Darkness. It's set in 1860s Mexico and Dantes acquires a steampunk robot arm.
Was it good, bad or something in between?
Something in between. I mainly remember it being a surprisingly standard adaptation, setting and robot hand aside, which really wasn't what I was expecting from Del Toro. And there's a fairly tacked on moral about how revenge is bad. The draft is from 1999, though, so I'm sure Del Toro has worked on it at least a little since then.
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Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 29, 2020, 12:18:36 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Mar 28, 2020, 11:02:45 PM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 28, 2020, 09:33:51 PM
Did you know that Memo Del Toro was working in his own take on The Count Of Monte Cristo ??? which according to what I've read was like Wild Wild West but Gothic or something https://i.imgur.com/2PURFiH.png?1
https://twitter.com/RealGDT/status/1067074218217676801?s
I've read a draft, titled The Left Hand of Darkness. It's set in 1860s Mexico and Dantes acquires a steampunk robot arm.
Was it good, bad or something in between?
Something in between. I mainly remember it being a surprisingly standard adaptation, setting and robot hand aside, which really wasn't what I was expecting from Del Toro. And there's a fairly tacked on moral about how revenge is bad. The draft is from 1999, though, so I'm sure Del Toro has worked on it at least a little since then.
I expected more extravaganza as well, like when he said he would make a Zorro movie only if the Zorro would transform himself into a werewolf at some point of the plot :laugh:
But if such draft is from 1999 as you point it out, we might be unable to properly make a review this particular unmade story.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 29, 2020, 02:55:39 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Mar 29, 2020, 01:57:35 AM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 29, 2020, 12:18:36 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Mar 28, 2020, 11:02:45 PM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 28, 2020, 09:33:51 PM
Did you know that Memo Del Toro was working in his own take on The Count Of Monte Cristo ??? which according to what I've read was like Wild Wild West but Gothic or something https://i.imgur.com/2PURFiH.png?1
https://twitter.com/RealGDT/status/1067074218217676801?s
I've read a draft, titled The Left Hand of Darkness. It's set in 1860s Mexico and Dantes acquires a steampunk robot arm.
Was it good, bad or something in between?
Something in between. I mainly remember it being a surprisingly standard adaptation, setting and robot hand aside, which really wasn't what I was expecting from Del Toro. And there's a fairly tacked on moral about how revenge is bad. The draft is from 1999, though, so I'm sure Del Toro has worked on it at least a little since then.
I expected more extravaganza as well, like when he said he would make a Zorro movie only if the Zorro would transform himself into a werewolf at some point of the plot :laugh:
But if such draft is from 1999 as you point it out, we might be unable to properly make a review this particular unmade story.
There was another draft from 2004 titled Montecristo, but it was in the hands of collectors and impossible to get. As was his Beauty and the Beast, as well as Meat Market.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Mar 29, 2020, 05:30:46 AM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 29, 2020, 02:55:39 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Mar 29, 2020, 01:57:35 AM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 29, 2020, 12:18:36 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Mar 28, 2020, 11:02:45 PM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 28, 2020, 09:33:51 PM
Did you know that Memo Del Toro was working in his own take on The Count Of Monte Cristo ??? which according to what I've read was like Wild Wild West but Gothic or something https://i.imgur.com/2PURFiH.png?1
https://twitter.com/RealGDT/status/1067074218217676801?s
I've read a draft, titled The Left Hand of Darkness. It's set in 1860s Mexico and Dantes acquires a steampunk robot arm.
Was it good, bad or something in between?
Something in between. I mainly remember it being a surprisingly standard adaptation, setting and robot hand aside, which really wasn't what I was expecting from Del Toro. And there's a fairly tacked on moral about how revenge is bad. The draft is from 1999, though, so I'm sure Del Toro has worked on it at least a little since then.
I expected more extravaganza as well, like when he said he would make a Zorro movie only if the Zorro would transform himself into a werewolf at some point of the plot :laugh:
But if such draft is from 1999 as you point it out, we might be unable to properly make a review this particular unmade story.
There was another draft from 2004 titled Montecristo, but it was in the hands of collectors and impossible to get. As was his Beauty and the Beast, as well as Meat Market.
Well that's rather interesting. Too bad it's at hands of collectors.
https://twitter.com/OnlyFilmMedia/status/1244140553115258883
Quote from: io9Silver: ... What Terry had done, and it was a Sam Hamm script—who had written a script that everybody loved for the first "Batman"—and then he brought in a guy who'd worked for him to do work on it [Charles McKeown, co-writer of "Brazil"]. What he did was he told the story as-is, but instead of the whole notion of the intergalactic thing which was too hard and too silly, what he did was he maintained that the existence of Doctor Manhattan had changed the whole balance of the world economy, the world political structure. He felt that THAT character really altered the way reality had been. He had the Ozymandias character convince, essentially, the Doctor Manhattan character to go back and stop himself from being created, so there never would be a Doctor Manhattan character. He was the only character with real supernatural powers, he went back and prevented himself from being turned into Doctor Manhattan, and in the vortex that was created after that occurred these characters from "Watchmen" only became characters in a comic book.
CS: That's fascinating. Very META.
Silver: Oh yeah. So the three characters, I think it was Rorschach and Nite Owl and Silk Spectre, they're all of the sudden in Times Square and there's a kid reading a comic book. They become like the people in Times Square dressing up like characters as opposed to really BEING those characters. There's a kid reading the comic book and he's like, "Hey, you're just like in my comic book." It was very smart, it was very articulate, and it really gave a very satisfying resolution to the story, but it just didn't happen. Lost to time.
This is the insane way Terry Gilliam's Watchmen movie would have ended
Third Alien Prequel coming soon...
I read one of the Alex Cox drafts of Mars Attacks today. It was out of its goddamn mind. :laugh:
Which every Tim Burton's movie should be, I suppose.
Quote from: Gilfryd on Mar 25, 2020, 08:17:16 AM
This sounds like a cool one -
QuoteConcept art and test shots from Willis O'Brien's War Eagles, a film that would have followed up O'Brien's triumph, King Kong. The script was by Cyril Hume, who wrote all the MGM Tarzan films and Forbidden Planet. The plot is that explorers find a lost valley filled with a lost tribe of Vikings who ride giant eagles. In the finale, the Nazis would attack New York with a zeppelin fleet and attackw with something like an early EMP, only to be defeated by our hero with an army of giant eagles.
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Hey, apparently this received a novelization of sorts -
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Quote from: Kradan on Apr 03, 2020, 07:50:18 AM
Which every Tim Burton's movie should be, I suppose.
It predates the Burton version by quite a few years.
https://twitter.com/HNEsocial/status/1247518789433991168
Quote from: ace3g on Apr 07, 2020, 04:21:24 PM
https://twitter.com/HNEsocial/status/1247518789433991168
Oh boy, I couldn't be more pleased for the highly talented people who gave us that stunning Biopunk world. 8)
Not to mention the storytelling of that game is superb. I really wish we had the movie. :)
Sadly the only script that's filtered down to my level is a very crude fake.
Really? a crying shame :-X :'(
There's been handful of fakes like that:
-An Uncharted script that reads well but has a fake title page attached to it, no one really knows what it is.
-Two Prometheus 2 scripts
-A Godzilla draft attributed to David Callaham but reads like it was written by someone barely literate.
-Batman Unchained by Mark Protosevich
-The 2017 Justice League Dark script is a borderline example, I can't say for sure either way. It claims to be based on Del Toro's treatment like the legit 2015 draft does, but bears little similarity to that previous version.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Apr 08, 2020, 04:23:05 AM
-Two Prometheus 2 scripts
Just curious :laugh:
Is the content of these fake scripts more interesting than Alien Covenant?
On the other hand, this is trully interesting and I was unaware of it until now. After Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Spielberg worked on a more horror oriented sequel to his classic, but the movie was never made and some of the ideas ended up being part of Poltergeist and Gremlins 8)
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https://twitter.com/FreddyInSpace/status/472030361682472960?s
Also, I had forgotten that Bad Robot was considering producing both: Portal & Half Life movies.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Apr 08, 2020, 04:23:05 AM
-Batman Unchained by Mark Protosevich
Do you have that one ? I would like to read it.
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Quote from: KiramidHead on Apr 08, 2020, 04:23:05 AM
-Batman Unchained by Mark Protosevich
Do you have that one ? I would like to read it.
I've only seen a fake around.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Apr 10, 2020, 05:21:05 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Apr 08, 2020, 04:23:05 AM
-Two Prometheus 2 scripts
Just curious :laugh:
Is the content of these fake scripts more interesting than Alien Covenant?
I didn't read them, Hicks verified them as fake.
QuoteOn the other hand, this is trully interesting and I was unaware of it until now. After Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Spielberg worked on a more horror oriented sequel to his classic, but the movie was never made and some of the ideas ended up being part of Poltergeist and Gremlins 8)
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https://twitter.com/FreddyInSpace/status/472030361682472960?s
I've read that one, it's called Night Skies. Wasn't bad.
An unfinished project by the great Jean Henri Gaston Giraud (aka Moebius) 8)
https://vimeo.com/38274911
"Starwatcher was slated to be the first feature-length animated movie to be made with 3-D computer graphics. But the film's producer died in a car accident, and shortly thereafter it was discovered that the French production company bankrolling the film was FF85 million (US$15 million) in debt. (Many suspected the car accident was no accident.)"
More on Wired (https://www.wired.com/1994/01/moebius-2/)
Too bad George Romero didn't make a Resident Evil movie. His commercial for the second video game is more enjoyable than most of the movies we have.
Been reading an old Flash script from 1987 where Barry gets his powers from an alien sphere.
Steve Miner and Fred Dekker's Godzilla KOTM in 3D is another big 'what if' for me.
William Stout has a few blog posts of his time on the project if you go digging -
He just posted a synopsis -
Spoiler
Here's Fred Dekker's terrific story of Godzilla in a nutshell (a slight edit of the Wikipedia description):
A meteorite collides with an American defense satellite which triggers a nuclear missile to launch towards the Earth. The missile detonates in the middle of the South Pacific, which awakens a giant reptilian creature on the ocean floor. A Japanese fishing vessel is towed to San Francisco for examination after it recently disappeared. Journalist Dana Martin sneaks onto the ship and finds a perfectly preserved trilobite and a burnt survivor whose last words are "Gojira".
Martin takes the trilobite to paleobiologist and dinosaur expert, Gerald Balinger, who seems skeptical about the fossil's authenticity. On Oto Island in Tahiti, an American Special Forces squad comes into contact with a giant reptilian monster, who lays waste to nearby villages. Navy Colonel Peter Daxton leads an investigation off the coast of Mexico for a mysteriously sunken Russian submarine. The investigation is secretly being observed by Russian spies and Daxton's old enemy, Boris Kruschov, who wishes to retrieve the sub's two nuclear missiles.
Daxton finds a video onboard which reveals that the sub fired one of the missiles on a giant reptilian creature. The missiles are then taken into military custody pending negotiations with Russia. Daxton returns home to San Francisco and his son, Kevin, only to be called back for another mission. Daxton, Kevin, and Balinger are taken to Baja, Mexico where the carcass of a reptile "the size of a house" has washed ashore. Daxton recognizes it as the same creature from the video.
Balinger theorizes that the creature is a dinosaur, however, the military disregard his theories and assume it came from another planet. As Balinger and Kevin watch the military transport the body, Balinger names the creature "Godzilla", based on an old Japanese myth about a dragon. Off the coast of California, the adult Godzilla surfaces and destroys an oil derrick and a tanker. The dead Baby Godzilla is stored at a warehouse at San Francisco's Embarcadero for studying purposes.
Balinger becomes alarmed when researchers who came into contact with the body begin suffering from radiation poisoning. Balinger deduces that the Baby is a living atomic reactor with regenerative properties. Since the sea disasters continued even after the Baby's death, Balinger concludes that the adult Godzilla is coming to the city, but the military disregard his ideas again. Kruschov kidnaps Kevin and demands that Daxton exchange the missiles as ransom. Kevin manages to escape just as Godzilla rises from San Francisco Bay.
The military attack the beast but to no effect, which angers Godzilla into a rampage, destroying the Golden Gate Bridge. Daxton, Balinger, and Martin plan to lure Godzilla out of the city with a recording of the Baby taken from the submarine video and kill it with the Russian missiles. As Daxton flies the helicopter carrying the missiles, Kruschov appears onboard with Kevin and demands the missiles be returned. After a brief fight, the helicopter crashes and Kruschov lands in Godzilla's hand, where he is incinerated by Godzilla's atomic breath.
Godzilla finds the warehouse holding its offspring and unleashes a mournful roar after discovering the Baby dead. Balinger and Martin turn on the Baby's recording at Alcatraz Island, which attracts Godzilla's attention. Daxton drags the remaining missile onto the Scorpion-78, a high-tech prototype battle helicopter. The co-pilot falls off as the Scorpion-78 lifts off and Kevin takes the co-pilot's place. As Daxton flies the chopper, Kevin reluctantly fires the missile into Godzilla's throat, which successfully kills the monster. Kevin falls off the Scorpion-78, but is saved by Godzilla. Kevin weeps as Godzilla takes its last breath.
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(^ Really dig this piece.)
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There are a couple of drafts out there, did an episode on it last year.
I was curious for a Distric 9 sequel. Now no so much, it is still interesting given the story and setting of the original.
https://twitter.com/slashfilm/status/357206727323680768?s
https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1260361369574129666
That casting feels a little too young for the story the script was telling. Bruce is old enough that Alfred, Dick, and Gordon are all dead, and Clark has been married to Lois for a while and they're in the midst of getting divorced.
https://twitter.com/OnlyFilmMedia/status/1267496342705840130
I had no idea that James Cameron wanted to make Jurassic Park.
Quote from: Business InsiderJames Cameron's version of "Jurassic Park" would have been much darker than Steven Spielberg's, at least according to Cameron himself.
The iconic director of "Aliens," "Titanic," and "Avatar" told HuffPost UK that he had always wanted to adapt "Jurassic Park." Cameron said he tried to buy the rights to the novel by Michael Crichton, but Spielberg "beat me to it by a few hours."
But it was all for the best, according to Cameron.
"When I saw the film, I realized that I was not the right person to make the film, he was," Cameron said. "Because he made a dinosaur movie for kids, and mine would have been 'Aliens' with dinosaurs, and that wouldn't have been fair ... Dinosaurs are for 8 year olds. We can all enjoy it, too, but kids get dinosaurs and they should not have been excluded for that. His sensibility was right for that film, I'd have gone further, nastier, much nastier."
https://twitter.com/businessinsider/status/981288289218031621
Old news, but I didn't know about this either until now.
Quote from: Zack SnyderThere may be. There may be. We've been talking a lot about sort of different incarnations of 300. We've been talking about is there a way, possibly, we move out of Ancient Greece and use it as a framing device for other conflicts that happened throughout history.
I think I mentioned that we talked about the Revolutionary War version, and we talked about the Alamo, and we've talked about there's a battle in China, a "Lost Legion" kind of concept, any of those kinds of things are on the table.
https://twitter.com/colliderfrosty/status/711226001494118400
A couple of really interesting scripts I've read lately:
Diary of a Young London Physician by David Mamet - an interesting interpretation of the Jekyll and Hyde story with some neat moments. It's main fault is that Hyde almost feels like a non-entity, and I'm not really sure what Mamet's take on him was meant to be.
Untitled Mann/Logan 1930s Noir Project by John Logan - A cool throwback noir detective story, focusing on a Hollywood fixer solving a mystery involving the underworld and the movie business. It's almost like a 1938 era Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, with fictional characters interacting with real people, amusingly enough since this was also supposed to be a DiCaprio vehicle.
Quote from: Carl Ellsworth via ComingSoon.net"These little creatures—what they're really doing, they're cold-blooded little murderers, you know?" Ellsworth continues. "They're psychotic little creatures that are killing everybody. So that's where it all started" when it came to writing the third film. "I tried to preserve the humor, but at the same time, I was starting with the
foundation of this being a horror movie, which I was really thrilled about."
https://twitter.com/comingsoonnet/status/1275171205276774400
https://twitter.com/OnlyFilmMedia/status/1275856500267929604
https://twitter.com/OnlyFilmMedia/status/1276214196024328193
https://twitter.com/OnlyFilmMedia/status/1276118967451607040
https://twitter.com/OnlyFilmMedia/status/1275775825720291329
https://twitter.com/OnlyFilmMedia/status/1276576273326899201
https://twitter.com/OnlyFilmMedia/status/1276957080088449024
https://twitter.com/GeekTyrant/status/1288519867205853185
I just read Dean Riesner's unproduced Godfather 3 script. It's not the worst thing ever, but really doesn't work as a Godfather movie. Weirdly, the scene where Andy Garcia's character takes down the hitmen in that reporter's apartment in the actual GF3 is here in nearly identical form, only with Michael's son in that role.
https://twitter.com/OnlyFilmMedia/status/1351535739578810368
https://twitter.com/WeirdlandTales/status/1291850380427632641
It's like Event Horizon, but with Giger!
Quote from: via Alien ExplorationsThe plot of the film, set in 2239, involved a starship commander named Tennison, absconds with a spaceship the Bellerophon to track down a demented archaeologist who murdered his wife.
The expedition leads to the planet Daveros where the are discovered artifacts from an alien civilisation and decide to bring them back when strange things begin to happen.
An evil character is brought back on the ship and with him comes the alien machine called the Thanatron capable of reanimating the dead and act as a portal to the world of the dead, specifically Hell, transporting people there.
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William Malone's Dead Star
That one more or less became Supernova of all things. :laugh:
Yuk! :-X So this is like the journey from Jodorowsky's Dune to David Lynch's Dune but much...muuch worse...and not fascinating at all as at least Mr. Lynch give us a baroque fever dream and not a cheap and depressingly generic sci-fi flick?
Supernova had no chance with all the constant changes
And Coppola trying to add another sex scene by recycling the existing the one and trying to brown up Robin Tunney into Angela Bassett.
I've neglected to mention this, but I recently read the unproduced Superman Returns sequel script. It was something of a mixed bag. There was definitely more action, Lex Luthor is reduced to a subplot but more effectively used than he was in Returns, and there are some nice character moments, like one between Superman and Marsden's character where he tells him that he'll be a good father to Jason. But the overall plot was confusing and poorly explained, with the whole New Krypton thing, something that might be a take on Brainiac but is left vague, and a female being formed from the crystals that I was never too sure what was going on with. And she's effectively the main villain of the script. :laugh:
And if people hated the neck snap from Man of Steel, they'd definitely hate what happens to her, even though the script wusses out and has it happen off camera.
I'm terrified to imagine what it is
Quote from: Kradan on Jan 24, 2021, 07:16:02 AM
I'm terrified to imagine what it is
Basically what happens is that they fight, which continues into space and into the sun, and the scene fades out with the implication left that Superman kills her.
:-\
Btw, recently I've got around to listen your Superman Lives episode and enjoyed it quite a lot
Quote from: Kradan on Jan 24, 2021, 08:41:15 PM
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Btw, recently I've got around to listen your Superman Lives episode and enjoyed it quite a lot
Thanks.
Surely you have already read this.
▶Batman: Year One screenplay by Frank Miller (http://leonscripts.users5.50megs.com/scripts/BATMANYEARONEscript.htm)
▶ Year One proposal by Larry and Andy Wachowski (http://leonscripts.users5.50megs.com/scripts/BATMANYEARONEproposal.htm)
Yeah, I've read those.
And what is the holy grail of scripts? or one which you haven't read yet?
There are a couple of things I've never been able to find, like the Clive Barker/Mick Garris version of The Mummy or the Jeremy Slater Fantastic Four.
Clive Barker? I bet his mummies could have been quite horrific, just like his cenobites.
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From what I understand, it wasn't really about living mummies, more a weird Lovecraftian thing regarding the Egyptian gods.
Ok wow. That sounds even better, and kinda like reinvent the wheel. At least when it comes to the mummy concept.
And it apparently evolved from an early idea Barker had for Hellraiser 3, but scrapped because he figured it was too far off the mark for that series. Oh, if only he knew how far afield it would go... :laugh:
Wasnt that the one where the Pyramids were an early form of the Lament Configuration?
Quote from: Whiskeybrewer on Jan 25, 2021, 08:53:54 AM
Wasnt that the one where the Pyramids were an early form of the Lament Configuration?
Here's the Peter Atkins quote on it.
Quote"How about a Hellraiser movie set partly in Ancient Egypt in which it is revealed that the very first Cenobite was an overly-curious Pharaoh? And how about the fun we could have had when his mummified remains are dug up in the 1990s and brought to an American museum and some clown, in the process of making a diorama display of the discovered treasures, realigns the objects found in the tomb into a certain pyramidic pattern. A pattern that predated the Lament Configuration as a means of access from this reality to that other we all know and love? That was Clive's first take on an idea for the sequel.
"I liked it. Chris Figg liked it. But, despite it being his idea, Clive decided that he didn't like it. Or rather, he didn't like it as the basis for a Hellraiser movie. My guess is he saw the potential for a whole new Barkerian mythology in there and wanted to keep it clean. There was much talk in the genre press a couple of years later about something called The Egyptian Project, a working title for a movie Clive was developing with Mick Garris for Universal Pictures. I never read Mick's screenplay so I don't know if it has anything in common with those earlier ideas of Clive's but I'm sure you Barker-completists out there will be happy to learn about that particular strand of potential cross-fertilisation between his works."
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jan 25, 2021, 12:43:23 PM
Quote from: Whiskeybrewer on Jan 25, 2021, 08:53:54 AM
Wasnt that the one where the Pyramids were an early form of the Lament Configuration?
Here's the Peter Atkins quote on it.
Quote"How about a Hellraiser movie set partly in Ancient Egypt in which it is revealed that the very first Cenobite was an overly-curious Pharaoh? And how about the fun we could have had when his mummified remains are dug up in the 1990s and brought to an American museum and some clown, in the process of making a diorama display of the discovered treasures, realigns the objects found in the tomb into a certain pyramidic pattern. A pattern that predated the Lament Configuration as a means of access from this reality to that other we all know and love? That was Clive's first take on an idea for the sequel.
"I liked it. Chris Figg liked it. But, despite it being his idea, Clive decided that he didn't like it. Or rather, he didn't like it as the basis for a Hellraiser movie. My guess is he saw the potential for a whole new Barkerian mythology in there and wanted to keep it clean. There was much talk in the genre press a couple of years later about something called The Egyptian Project, a working title for a movie Clive was developing with Mick Garris for Universal Pictures. I never read Mick's screenplay so I don't know if it has anything in common with those earlier ideas of Clive's but I'm sure you Barker-completists out there will be happy to learn about that particular strand of potential cross-fertilisation between his works."
Thats the one. Would love to read that script
I didn't remember Scott was about to make I'm Legend for Warner Bros in 1997.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BuFwV-cgkw_/?igshid=11vqk9o70rgy2
This makeup design transports me to the imagery of 2 movies: one that already existed at that time and another that began to exist 15 years later :laugh:
(https://i.ibb.co/7YTfcs6/Screenshot-20210127-171102-2.png)
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He liked baldies even back then
Btw, KiramidHead, I've listened to your I Am Legend episode recently too and it was very ebjoyable !
Quote from: Kradan on Jan 29, 2021, 08:16:08 PM
He liked baldies even back then
Btw, KiramidHead, I've listened to your I Am Legend episode recently too and it was very ebjoyable !
Thanks. That's one I'm happy with but really want to revisit down the line because there were a lot of gaps in the info I had back then and I picked up a couple of more drafts since.
Well, I've learned a few things from that episode
1. Movie was based on the book
2. They'd been trying to make movie since what - late 50s ?
3. Episodes where you have mix of great, good and terrible scripts for the same movie are the best ones (Alien 3, I Am Legend. Superman Lives, The Flash, The Hulk etc.)
PM when you release new episode on that, will ya ? I might even bring my ass to write a review :D
I saw Blade Runner and The Martian one night. Ridley is good with books apparently.
Too bad the movie most people will remember him for was written by crazy man and two fraud producers
Quote from: Kradan on Jan 30, 2021, 12:37:17 AM
Well, I've learned a few things from that episode
1. Movie was based on the book
2. They'd been trying to make movie since what - late 50s ?
3. Episodes where you have mix of great, good and terrible scripts for the same movie are the best ones (Alien 3, I Am Legend. Superman Lives, The Flash, The Hulk etc.)
PM when you release new episode on that, will ya ? I might even bring my ass to write a review :D
Well, Hammer tried to make one in the late 50s, the Italians did make on in the mid-60s, and the early 70s had The Omega Man. WB tried to do another from the mid-90s but didn't get it done until 2007.
And okay, sure. My sig link changes whenever I put out a new one, but I'll PM you if you insist. ;D
David Lynch almost adapted a manga by the creator of Akira thanks to George Lucas.
(https://i.ibb.co/tHmX67f/915-Yw-OM6-QNL.jpg)
Quote from: via slashfilmDomu: A Child's Dream tells the story of an old man and a child with extraordinary powers. The old man is losing his mind and takes control of an apartment building, causing tenants to kill themselves, but he's challenged by a young girl with her own special abilities.
In the '90s, after the success of Twin Peaks and Wild at Heart, David Lynch almost made a live-action adaptation of Otomo Katsuhiro's manga Domu: A Child's Dream. It's not as well known or popular as Katsuhiro's own Akira, but it's still considered a major work. And in a number of ways, this movie adaptation almost happened because of George Lucas.
It's a bit of tangent to the thread topic, but I've been reading through the available drafts of Walter Hill's Extreme Prejudice. The original John Milius draft from the 70s is actually quite different from the movie, and in some ways feels like a bit of a practice run for Red Dawn. The 1985 Lukas Heller draft is something of a midway point between the Milius draft and the movie, with some things being closer to the final project but still quite different. And the shooting script is an interesting read as well, as it contains all of the stuff that Hill shot and later cut in post, like the role played by Andrew Robinson, and it makes the actual motives behind the black ops mission much more clear.
Quote from: io9Now, according to The Hollywood Reporter, Romero's widow, Suzanne Romero, is looking for directors to helm Twilight of the Dead, which is based on a screenplay she's been quietly overseeing for the last few years written by Paolo Zelati, Joe Knetter, and Robert L. Lucas. Zelati actually wrote a treatment with George before his passing and approached Suzanne for permission to continue, which she granted.
https://twitter.com/io9/status/1388219115769192448
Oh nice
Rereading the Cliff Dorfman Crow remake script. You could lose a few pages just by deleting all of the ellipses, goddamn. :laugh:
Guillermo del Toro Has Spent 'Roughly 16 Years' Writing Screenplays That Never Got Filmed (https://www.indiewire.com/2021/09/guillermo-del-toro-spent-16-years-writing-scripts-never-filmed-1234666450/)
Quote"By my count I have written or co-written around 33 screenplay features. Two to three made by others, 11 made by me (Pinocchio in progress) so- about 20 screenplays not filmed. Each takes 6-10 months of work, so, roughly 16 years gone. Just experience and skill improvement."
If I've obsessed over this right, these are del Toro's main unrealized projects –
Meat Market: A Love Story (Original screenplay)
Mephisto's Bridge (Based on the novel Spanky by Christopher Fowler)
The List of Seven (Based on the novel by Mark Frost)
The Left Hand of Darkness (Based on The Count of Monte Cristo)
At the Mountains of Madness (Based on the novella by HP Lovecraft)
The Wind in the Willows (Based on the novel by Kenneth Grahame)
Drood (Based on the novel by Dan Simmons)
The Haunted Mansion (Based on the Disney attraction)
Beauty and the Beast (Based on the fairy tale)
The Hulk TV Pilot (Based on the Marvel Comics)
Justice League Dark (Based on the DC Comics)
Fantastic Voyage (Based on the 1966 film)
The Buried Giant (Based on the novel by Kazuo Ishiguro)
The Coffin (Based on the Oni Press Comics)
The Champions (Based on the British TV series)
With these ultimately being made -
Pacific Rim 2 (2018, directed by Steven S. DeKnight)
The Witches (2020, directed by Robert Zemeckis)
Nightmare Alley (2021, directed by del Toro)
And no idea what these could be -
Secret Project (Untitled)
Superstitious
Quote from: Gilfryd on Oct 13, 2021, 10:21:48 AM
The Buried Giant
Kazuo Ishiguro's novel of the same name.
https://www.slashfilm.com/562561/unmade-guillermo-del-toro-movies/
I've read a couple of drafts of Left Hand of Darkness, it's a pretty good Monte Cristo adaptation, shifted to 1860s Mexico. And Justice League Dark was a fun read.
I wouldnt mind reading his take on The Champions to be fair
Quote from: Ingwar on Oct 13, 2021, 10:16:30 PM
Quote from: Gilfryd on Oct 13, 2021, 10:21:48 AM
The Buried Giant
Kazuo Ishiguro's novel of the same name.
https://www.slashfilm.com/562561/unmade-guillermo-del-toro-movies/
Thanks, list updated.
Argh new page, here's my post -
Quote from: Gilfryd on Oct 13, 2021, 10:21:48 AM
Guillermo del Toro Has Spent 'Roughly 16 Years' Writing Screenplays That Never Got Filmed (https://www.indiewire.com/2021/09/guillermo-del-toro-spent-16-years-writing-scripts-never-filmed-1234666450/)
Quote"By my count I have written or co-written around 33 screenplay features. Two to three made by others, 11 made by me (Pinocchio in progress) so- about 20 screenplays not filmed. Each takes 6-10 months of work, so, roughly 16 years gone. Just experience and skill improvement."
If I've obsessed over this right, these are del Toro's main unrealized projects –
Meat Market: A Love Story (Original screenplay)
Mephisto's Bridge (Based on the novel Spanky by Christopher Fowler)
The List of Seven (Based on the novel by Mark Frost)
The Left Hand of Darkness (Based on The Count of Monte Cristo)
At the Mountains of Madness (Based on the novella by HP Lovecraft)
The Wind in the Willows (Based on the novel by Kenneth Grahame)
Drood (Based on the novel by Dan Simmons)
The Haunted Mansion (Based on the Disney attraction)
Beauty and the Beast (Based on the fairy tale)
The Hulk TV Pilot (Based on the Marvel Comics)
Justice League Dark (Based on the DC Comics)
Fantastic Voyage (Based on the 1966 film)
The Buried Giant (Based on the novel by Kazuo Ishiguro)
The Coffin (Based on the Oni Press Comics)
The Champions (Based on the British TV series)
With these ultimately being made -
Pacific Rim 2 (2018, directed by Steven S. DeKnight)
The Witches (2020, directed by Robert Zemeckis)
Nightmare Alley (2021, directed by del Toro)
And no idea what these could be -
Secret Project (Untitled)
Superstitious
I just read a script for a movie version of The Saint, written by Terry Hayes, with both Renny Harlin and John McTiernan attached to direct at different points. It was meant to have Roger Moore reprise his role as Simon Templar, who teams up with his illegitimate American son played by Tom Cruise. Not bad, with some decent action.
https://twitter.com/io9/status/1501711321489809408
(https://i.ibb.co/THBf8rJ/Pics-Art-10-21-07-12-03.jpg)
https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1583504897634279424
Spider-Man versus Kraven the Hunter ~
a lost short fan film from 1974 (https://lostmediawiki.com/Spider-Man_versus_Kraven_the_Hunter_(lost_short_superhero_fan_film;_1974))
(https://i.ibb.co/sgTNd1L/Spider-V-Kraven-3.jpg)
Another lost media case, but still an interesting and very early example of kaiju film:
Daibutsu kaikoku. (https://m.imdb.com/title/tt1278031/)
(https://i.ibb.co/KDnqNPM/330px-Daibutsu.jpg)
Quote from: IMDbThe plot focuses on a giant Buddha statue (known in Japan as a "Daibutsu") 33 meters in height. It comes to life and tours the country, mainly seeing tourist sights...
The film disappeared without a trace in 1934. There was a remake in 2018. It looks awful though 👉👈
Also...there was apparently an unfinished King Kong parody called
'The Lost Island', where puppets brought human characters to life.. ;D
(https://i.ibb.co/LdH4DgH/the-lost-island.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/hsRqjhG/lostisland1.jpg)
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▶ The Lost Island - 1934 - du Club des Monstres (https://www.clubdesmonstres.com/best/htm/lostisland.html)
Also, as mentioned in various threads, Jodorowsky's Dune.
Add to that the rest of Mishima's Sea of Fertility series.
I read the Point Break 2 script, written by the original writer. It's one of the most counterintuitive sequel premises I've come across, with Keanu relegated to bookend cameos, and Swayze returning in a major role, in spite of the fact he f**king died in the original. Also, Anthony Kiedis' character pops up as well, just hanging around Swayze in Indonesia despite the fact they barely knew each other in the first movie. :laugh:
I've reread Del Toro's Montecristo/Left Hand of Darkness drafts, and they read better when I know not to expect a weirder, more fantastical take. And it's fun to see that the gigantic crucifix from Pinocchio is more or less in this story, too. :laugh:
I do still think that the anti-revenge message doesn't work as well as it could. In fact, Dumas did a better job with the idea of Dantes' revenge going too far. Here, it's just not quite as impactful as it should be.
https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1628090639752794112?s=20
(https://i.ibb.co/yYCD7zg/Picsart-23-10-27-21-21-20-935.jpg)
https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1718003972491841868
The first thing that came to mind when I thought about Spielberg's plans were Band of Brothers and others.
God, I would love to see a sequel to The Social Network. :laugh:
https://twitter.com/GeekTyrant/status/1723088141622362446
https://twitter.com/Collider/status/1731056276853981528
I feel like a Snyder take on Alexander would at least be less boring than Oliver Stone's.
https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1740864601032392966
I thought the script kinda sucked, but it was a first draft after all.
https://twitter.com/WIRED/status/1745159600368681387
Dune Messiah is great.
https://twitter.com/BodySnatchers79/status/1755374332405022760
It's a pretty great script, I did an episode on it years ago.