Alien: Covenant Box Office Performance

Started by John73, May 14, 2017, 05:51:54 PM

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Deadmeat

Will be, then. There will be no aliens in that cut so :laugh:

Denton Smalls

Quote from: Deadmeat on Jun 06, 2017, 04:34:48 PM
Will be, then. There will be no aliens in that cut so :laugh:

?

Ingwar

Quote from: Denton Smalls on Jun 06, 2017, 04:41:04 PM
Quote from: Deadmeat on Jun 06, 2017, 04:34:48 PM
Will be, then. There will be no aliens in that cut so :laugh:

?

True. No Alien in Chinese cut.

Robopadna

Quote from: Ingwar on Jun 06, 2017, 04:42:55 PM
Quote from: Denton Smalls on Jun 06, 2017, 04:41:04 PM
Quote from: Deadmeat on Jun 06, 2017, 04:34:48 PM
Will be, then. There will be no aliens in that cut so :laugh:

?

True. No Alien in Chinese cut.

I still think we are not understanding something. There is no way you can cut that out and have the movie be anywhere near comprehensible.

TeamXeno

TeamXeno

#964
Just crunching numbers
Box office worlwide: $174,080,096
Production budget: $97,000,000

So production is in the green by: $77,080,096

However marketing costs are probably about: $100,000,000

Which leaves us at: -$22,919,904

BUT Licensing royalties for merchandise (toys, comics, books, clothes, etc) probably accounts for: $50,000,000

Which would give us a profit of: $27,080,096

(By the way these numbers are rough estimates based around articles on movie marketing and merchandising royalties.)



Robopadna

Robopadna

#965
Quote from: TeamXeno on Jun 06, 2017, 07:00:18 PM
Just crunching numbers
Box office worlwide: $174,080,096
Production budget: $97,000,000

So production is in the green by: $77,080,096

However marketing costs are probably about: $100,000,000

Which leaves us at: -$22,919,904

BUT Licensing royalties for merchandise (toys, comics, books, clothes, etc) probably accounts for: $50,000,000

Which would give us a profit of: $27,080,096

(By the way these numbers are rough estimates based around articles on movie marketing and merchandising royalties.)

I'm no expert in the licensing and merch category but I have to believe Licensing and merch are no where near 50 million.  If you have some links to even rough estimates I'd love to read them.  Regardless of what they actually are I believe you are estimating alien merch and licensing as a total franchise, not individual covenant licensing and merch. That isn't counted because covenant isn't bringing it in.

It's sort of auxiliary Money streams that do benefit from having the alien name out in the theatre but aren't directly tied to covenant.

Also your numbers are wrong. The studio does not get that revenue from the box office.

So far they have gotten roughly

33 domestic
41 international

74 total against a rough 150-200 million dollar expenditure.

Denton Smalls

Quote from: Ingwar on Jun 06, 2017, 04:42:55 PM
Quote from: Denton Smalls on Jun 06, 2017, 04:41:04 PM
Quote from: Deadmeat on Jun 06, 2017, 04:34:48 PM
Will be, then. There will be no aliens in that cut so :laugh:

?

True. No Alien in Chinese cut.

Wow. Makes you wonder why they even decided to distribute it at all.

I'm not sure the best editor in the world can spin that.

NickisSmart

Quote from: Ingwar on Jun 06, 2017, 04:42:55 PM

True. No Alien in Chinese cut.

Is that a joke?

TeamXeno

TeamXeno

#968
Robopanda ah yes I forgot the cut that theatres take. As for licensing 50 mil is probably more of year long estimate. The only actual figure I've found on licensing is Star Wars made $700,000,000 in fiscal year 2015 off of merchandising royalties.

Corporal Hicks

Quote from: NickisSmart on Jun 06, 2017, 08:31:31 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Jun 06, 2017, 04:42:55 PM

True. No Alien in Chinese cut.

Is that a joke?

Doesn't seem so. http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=57857.0

http://www.indiewire.com/2017/06/alien-covenant-box-office-flop-series-1201837669/

Quote"Alien: Covenant" will be one of the franchise's lowest-grossing entries, second only to 2007's "Aliens Vs. Predator – Requiem," which made $52 million domestic in adjusted numbers. Three weeks in, "Alien: Covenant" is at $67 million domestic against a $97 million budget; after Japan and China open, expect it to hit about $300 million worldwide, which means theatrical won't be enough for it to break even.

QuoteWhile Disney/Marvel's "Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2" is up over its first entry, that's the exception. Most long-term franchises have shown dropoffs. "Alien: Covenant" is the 12th big studio franchise sequel since Christmas, and preview-watching moviegoers are well aware how many still await them in coming weeks.

"Alien: Covenant" came soon after the two biggest franchises so far in 2017, "The Fate of the Furious" and "Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2," and right before the latest "Pirates" incarnation. That may have made it more vulnerable to customers deciding it was less essential than the ones preceding it.

Denton Smalls

Maybe it should have stuck with the August release date. We'll never know.


cucuchu

The movie has no hope in China now. We can hope every adult in Japan sees the movie 20 times and we can maybe make production costs back. Have faith  :-\

Gash

Quote from: cucuchu on Jun 07, 2017, 02:57:54 AM
The movie has no hope in China now.

Depends if they're used to such things. Or if this (apparent) Fox edit simply put the emphasis elsewhere than the alien.

Weird as it appears it's hard to know as yet.

bb-15

bb-15

#973
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 06, 2017, 08:47:33 PM

http://www.indiewire.com/2017/06/alien-covenant-box-office-flop-series-1201837669/

Quote"Alien: Covenant" will be one of the franchise's lowest-grossing entries, second only to 2007's "Aliens Vs. Predator – Requiem," which made $52 million domestic in adjusted numbers. Three weeks in, "Alien: Covenant" is at $67 million domestic against a $97 million budget; after Japan and China open, expect it to hit about $300 million worldwide, which means theatrical won't be enough for it to break even.

I disagree with the indiewire article summary.
- "Covenant" will not reach $300 million worldwide.
- If it did, it would do better than break even because that is more than 3 times its production budget.
- As for the other franchise movies, it's not about total box office but box office compared with the budget; besides the clear failure of AVP 2/R; "AVP" and "Ressurection" BO also didn't make 3 X their production budgets.

"Alien 3" barely did better than 3 X its production budget and Fox kept the franchise going with one mediocre performing film after another.
The only clear BO hit since "Alien 3" has been "Prometheus".

;)

Salt The Fries

Quote from: bb-15 on Jun 07, 2017, 03:21:49 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 06, 2017, 08:47:33 PM

http://www.indiewire.com/2017/06/alien-covenant-box-office-flop-series-1201837669/

Quote"Alien: Covenant" will be one of the franchise's lowest-grossing entries, second only to 2007's "Aliens Vs. Predator – Requiem," which made $52 million domestic in adjusted numbers. Three weeks in, "Alien: Covenant" is at $67 million domestic against a $97 million budget; after Japan and China open, expect it to hit about $300 million worldwide, which means theatrical won't be enough for it to break even.

I disagree with the indiewire article summary.
- "Covenant" will not reach $300 million worldwide.
- If it did, it would do better than break even because that is more than 3 times its production budget.
- As for the other franchise movies, it's not about total box office but box office compared with the budget; besides the clear failure of AVP 2/R; "AVP" and "Ressurection" BO also didn't make 3 X their production budgets.

"Alien 3" barely did better than 3 X its production budget and Fox kept the franchise going with one mediocre performing film after another.
The only clear BO hit since "Alien 3" has been "Prometheus".

;)

And for a long time Prometheus wasn't considered such a hit...which by the way had always puzzled me.

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