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Title: New AVP movie after A:C flop a possibility
Post by: Spirit of Fire on May 30, 2017, 03:02:27 AM
I see AVP being a Transformer type of franchise. Marines with robots and muscles. Alien hives. Big corporations with ambitions. Huge funded labs. Predators. We can see like 10+ sequels on this type of movie set in the future. With A:C flopping and the next Predator coming out, FOX might come back to the AVP movies again if Predator is a success. The Alien franchise can ride on the Predator's success into an AVP one. I've always wanted to see AVP in the future with marines. Not only that, now we don't need too much slow moving dark corridor aliens because the Aliens in A:C were primal and ferocious. Coming out of the movie, I thought to myself that no predator will be able to choke 2 A:C xenos at once unless he wants to get his limbs ripped off.
Title: Re: New AVP movie after A:C flop a possibility
Post by: marrerom on May 30, 2017, 10:20:47 PM
It will happen eventually. It seems to me that Fox wants to build up the brand names for Alien & Predator first before combining them again for a rebooted AvP film... Which is fine by me. Prometheus, Predators, and Alien:Covenant have been wonderful experiences for me personally. I'm sure I will enjoy The Predator as well (especially seeing as how Shane Black is an awesome writer/director).  I say let Fox give us one more of each before reviving the AvP series.
Title: Re: New AVP movie after A:C flop a possibility
Post by: echobbase79 on May 30, 2017, 11:16:51 PM

I'm thinking they'll make another if Godzilla vs King Kong does well, but that want be released until 2020 so we've got a while.
Title: Re: New AVP movie after A:C flop a possibility
Post by: D88M on May 31, 2017, 03:19:25 AM
if anything i think there is even less posibility of an AVP movie with A:C not doing so good
Title: Re: New AVP movie after A:C flop a possibility
Post by: Nukiemorph on Jun 06, 2017, 04:19:15 PM
Shane Black makes it sound like Fox is throwing a lot of money into The Predator.  I hope not...  because Predators didn't make that much, so they need to keep the cost low.

If The Predator doesn't do well, I'd say both of the franchises are going to lay dormant for a very long time.
Title: Re: New AVP movie after A:C flop a possibility
Post by: Kel G 426 on Jun 07, 2017, 12:05:49 AM
Predators didn't make much because it wasn't any good.
Title: Re: New AVP movie after A:C flop a possibility
Post by: D88M on Jun 07, 2017, 01:19:05 AM
Quote from: Kelgaard on Jun 07, 2017, 12:05:49 AM
Predators didn't make much because it wasn't any good.

it was like a dumb, totally brainless, senseless remake of the first movie, wit ha lot of stupid things added like the alien dogs and drones
Title: Re: New AVP movie after A:C flop a possibility
Post by: The Cruentus on Jul 11, 2017, 01:23:58 PM
Quote from: Spirit of Fire on May 30, 2017, 03:02:27 AM
I see AVP being a Transformer type of franchise. Marines with robots and muscles. Alien hives. Big corporations with ambitions. Huge funded labs. Predators. We can see like 10+ sequels on this type of movie set in the future. With A:C flopping and the next Predator coming out, FOX might come back to the AVP movies again if Predator is a success. The Alien franchise can ride on the Predator's success into an AVP one. I've always wanted to see AVP in the future with marines. Not only that, now we don't need too much slow moving dark corridor aliens because the Aliens in A:C were primal and ferocious. Coming out of the movie, I thought to myself that no predator will be able to choke 2 A:C xenos at once unless he wants to get his limbs ripped off.

A:C is a very flawed film but it did not flop  ::)
From wikipedia:"It has grossed a total of $232 million worldwide against its $97 million budget [4] and became the second highest box office of the franchise." and the film has been given a positive review with it being at 71% on rotten tomatoes.
Title: Re: New AVP movie after A:C flop a possibility
Post by: PierreVW on Jul 29, 2017, 06:17:04 PM
Michael Bay is the perfect director for a huge budget version of ALIEN V PREDATOR.

It could happen after COVENANT 2. Or maybe even earlier. They combine everything.
Title: Re: New AVP movie after A:C flop a possibility
Post by: Lonely Universe on Jul 29, 2017, 09:16:42 PM
I agree, it could be a very dark future for us all.
Title: Re: New AVP movie after A:C flop a possibility
Post by: Nukiemorph on Jul 29, 2017, 09:26:17 PM
Alien Vs. X-Men
Set in China.
Starring Scarlett Johansson.
Rated PG-13.
Title: Re: New AVP movie after A:C flop a possibility
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 31, 2017, 08:02:59 AM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jul 11, 2017, 01:23:58 PM
A:C is a very flawed film but it did not flop  ::)
From wikipedia:"It has grossed a total of $232 million worldwide against its $97 million budget [4] and became the second highest box office of the franchise." and the film has been given a positive review with it being at 71% on rotten tomatoes.

While I agree that Covenant didn't flop (but it didn't perform as well as Fox was expecting either), I don't think that's correct when accounting for inflation.

In regards to the topic at hand, I think the film not performing as well as expected would go negatively towards another AvP. Personally I hope The Predator performs well so that Fox does think there's more success left in the creatures. I still hope we'll get to see them crossover again.
Title: Re: New AVP movie after A:C flop a possibility
Post by: SM on Jul 31, 2017, 09:49:03 AM
Accounting for inflation is a mixed bag since you can't factor in foreign box office.
Title: Re: New AVP movie after A:C flop a possibility
Post by: System Apollo on Jul 31, 2017, 11:21:24 PM
Fox considered Requiem a success. Alien Covenant generated a ton of revenue and I expect The Predator to do the same. Aliens vs Predator might not generate as much as Covenant but it is highly likely that it too would be considered a success in the eyes of Fox if it turns a profit. Producers don't care about ratings, they care about revenue and will never make an AvP film vehemently. It's just got too much at stake because it's instantly recognized as a horror and there isn't much of a demand in that genre. In an economic sense, Fox looks at Alien and Predator as a means of income, therefore they want to use as little resources as possible and collect the earnings later.
Title: Re: New AVP movie after A:C flop a possibility
Post by: The happy alien on Aug 01, 2017, 12:23:59 PM
I think Fox is going to make more AvP. Firts they will finish the prequels and the new predators films. Then they will make one or two AvP films cheap. I think about 50-70 millions and get 100-120 in retourn.
Title: Re: New AVP movie after A:C flop a possibility
Post by: LastSurvivor92 on Aug 02, 2017, 01:29:05 AM
No thank you.

AVP was alright

AVPR was pretty...terrible.

Done with the story and the movies. I would rather see Siggy in a sequel to Resurrection now that Blomkamp and Ridley are canned it seems.
Title: Re: New AVP movie after A:C flop a possibility
Post by: Alionic on Aug 15, 2017, 12:47:45 AM
I really don't see another AVP film happening for at least fifteen years or so. Fox has already indicated a soft reboot (probably with Blomkamp) with completely new characters set in the Alien universe after Ridley Scott wraps up the prequels.

I also think it depends on how well Shane Black's Predator film does next year. Fox will probably just want to do more Predator films if his is successful.

I still believe an AVP film done right could be a truly powerful and epic event. I hope we eventually get that.
Title: Re: New AVP movie after A:C flop a possibility
Post by: SM on Aug 15, 2017, 12:59:41 AM
When did they indicate that?
Title: Re: New AVP movie after A:C flop a possibility
Post by: Nukiemorph on Aug 15, 2017, 01:20:38 AM
Quote from: SM on Aug 15, 2017, 12:59:41 AM
When did they indicate that?
They haven't publicly.  But this dude from Collider heard it from his "sources."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR7n5NT72ak (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR7n5NT72ak)
So pretty much unsubstantiated.
Title: Re: New AVP movie after A:C flop a possibility
Post by: SM on Aug 15, 2017, 01:44:46 AM
They have publicly.  A Fox rep said the future of the series was uncertain  (http://www.theage.com.au/entertainment/movies/after-thor-and-aquaman-the-battle-to-land-the-next-hollywood-blockbuster-continues-20170704-gx4atr.html) after Covenant didn't meet their revenue expectations.

How that equates to 'Fox has already indicated a soft reboot (probably with Blomkamp) with completely new characters set in the Alien universe after Ridley Scott wraps up the prequels', I don't know.
Title: Re: New AVP movie after A:C flop a possibility
Post by: Nukiemorph on Aug 15, 2017, 01:58:02 AM
Right, a Fox rep just said they're reassessing the series.

But that guy from Collider heard from "his sources" that before this shake-up, Fox was going to do one more Ridley film, then a soft reboot.  That's what Alionic is citing.
Title: Re: New AVP movie after A:C flop a possibility
Post by: SM on Aug 15, 2017, 02:07:11 AM
Oh, okay.
Title: Re: New AVP movie after A:C flop a possibility
Post by: Scorpio on Aug 15, 2017, 03:18:50 AM
I'd like to see another AVP, Blomkamp's Alien 5 or even a reboot.  But if they never make another Alien film, at least we have Alien: Covenant.  I know a lot of you hate the film, but would you rather it never got made?  It's a good epilogue to Prometheus, just like Alien Resurrection is a good epilogue to the Alien trilogy.  I can imagine David onboard the Covenant, floating out there in space forever, maybe being infested with aliens.  If we get a video game or something that serves as a sequel, I would be happy with that.
Title: Re: New AVP movie after A:C flop a possibility
Post by: Alionic on Aug 23, 2017, 08:32:23 PM
Quote from: Scorpio on Aug 15, 2017, 03:18:50 AM
I'd like to see another AVP, Blomkamp's Alien 5 or even a reboot.

If Fox decides to take the series in an action-oriented direction, then I would definitely prefer an AVP film set in the future rather than a remake of Aliens.

Space Marines vs. Aliens vs. Predators could be f**king amazing.
Title: Re: New AVP movie after A:C flop a possibility
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 24, 2017, 08:38:08 AM
Quote from: Alionic on Aug 23, 2017, 08:32:23 PM
Quote from: Scorpio on Aug 15, 2017, 03:18:50 AM
I'd like to see another AVP, Blomkamp's Alien 5 or even a reboot.

If Fox decides to take the series in an action-oriented direction, then I would definitely prefer an AVP film set in the future rather than a remake of Aliens.

Space Marines vs. Aliens vs. Predators could be f**king amazing.

Here, here.

Although I wouldn't be adverse to soft-reboot.
Title: Re: New AVP movie after A:C flop a possibility
Post by: Alionic on Aug 24, 2017, 09:43:46 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 24, 2017, 08:38:08 AM
Quote from: Alionic on Aug 23, 2017, 08:32:23 PM
Quote from: Scorpio on Aug 15, 2017, 03:18:50 AM
I'd like to see another AVP, Blomkamp's Alien 5 or even a reboot.

If Fox decides to take the series in an action-oriented direction, then I would definitely prefer an AVP film set in the future rather than a remake of Aliens.

Space Marines vs. Aliens vs. Predators could be f**king amazing.

Here, here.

Just imagine an AVP film done right. Annabelle: Creation got great reviews and it essentially had no plot. The production design, acting, stylized violence, and direction were all top notch. Applying these to an AVP film set in the future would at least make it as good and entertaining as the 2012 film Dredd.
Title: Re: New AVP movie after A:C flop a possibility
Post by: Cellien on Aug 28, 2017, 11:28:51 PM
I'd rather see a simple AvP movie than continue down this road with Scott's pretentious concepts for what he thinks an Alien movie should be.
Title: Re: New AVP movie after A:C flop a possibility
Post by: Scorpio on Aug 29, 2017, 12:38:30 AM
Prometheus/Covenant aren't pretentious.