Hey guys,
I have some pretty interesting news. Director Vincenzo Natali (Cube, Splice) just released some concept art and storyboards from his pitch for a third Predator film. Obviously, Fox decided green light Predators, and this idea was rejected. However, the artwork does look interesting.
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Source (http://comicbook.com/2015/06/03/concept-art-storyboards-for-rejected-predators-pitch/)
Natali's Predator idea seems... I dunno. Weird? Unique? I... don't have a word for it.
What was his pitch about anyway, was there any pitch for the story or was it just art? I mean the last picture just looks really.. out there. What is that, ANOTHER gladiator arena idea? Please, I most certainly don't want that.
Yeah, i'm really not digging these either. Just doesn't sit right.
The Predator in the artwork looks very stylized. As a piece of art, I quite like it!
The last picture looks quite cool. Something about the environment seems very feudal. I could imagine that being Japan.
I wish he'd provided some story concept too. I actually really loved Cube and Splice. Would have loved to have seen what he'd had in mind.
Apparently the pitch was made around 5 years ago.
I would say this is a sketch of a female predator... Something we have not seen yet
They did some sketches for Predators of a female. From Michael Broom IIRC. I'll try and find some from the gallery.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/predators/conceptart/concept14.jpg)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/predators/conceptart/concept15.jpg)
I like that Predator with the skinny-athletic look to it. Reminds me of the light Predator class from AvP2.
Which picture?
Fifth picture in the OP.
Okay. I can kind of see that.
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(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/games/avp2/concept39.jpg)
I'm sure that if Natali had made a Predator 3, whether it was a bad idea from the beginning or not, I am sure that I would have been interested none the less
The artist said that it is a female predator and that's the only piece he drew.
Looks good. I believe this movie might be set in the future, because of the plasma gun being used by the marine and the more cybernetic armor being worn by the female predator.
Too pointy
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 04, 2015, 11:46:52 AM
Okay. I can kind of see that.
http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/scale_small/0/7785/1995153-light_predator.jpg
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/games/avp2/concept39.jpg)
Love that design, too bad the in-game model didn't stand up.
Definitely not very good, strongly dislike most of it...the female Predator is decent but the unused concept for the female which was to appear in PREDATORS is far superior.
Quote from: The Other Mr. Runner on Jun 04, 2015, 11:21:47 PM
Love that design, too bad the in-game model didn't stand up.
I thought the in-game model looked great. Not too dissimilar to the concept.
Quote from: Weylan on Jun 05, 2015, 01:30:15 AM
the female Predator is decent but the unused concept for the female which was to appear in PREDATORS is far superior.
Definitely disagree with you there. I'll take my female Predators without boobs. :)
@Corporal Hicks,
Yeah personally I'd prefer female Predators with boobs much, much more than without, just think they look way better with them...I know the miniatures AvP game also depicts a female Predator with boobs :P
Although I completely respect your opinion :)
I prefer them not being too humanized. My own take, of course. It makes me like that design even more.
So Vincenzo has said there wasn't any story to go with his pitch. It was more to do with the visual style.
Well that's def interesting but I agree with Hicks... not being too humanized is a good thing. The style of the art has a very Japanese-Anime-Matrix feel to it. However, I must voice that I do prefer female Predator with boobs. The female characteristics draw a deeper distinction with the added breasts rather than not.
Quote from: PRJ_since1990 on Jun 05, 2015, 02:54:20 PM
Well that's def interesting but I agree with Hicks... not being too humanized is a good thing. The style of the art has a very Japanese-Anime-Matrix feel to it. However, I must voice that I do prefer female Predator with boobs. The female characteristics draw a deeper distinction with the added breasts rather than not.
I'd rather they find another way to visualize the difference. Something less human.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 05, 2015, 11:10:41 AM
I prefer them not being too humanized. My own take, of course. It makes me like that design even more.
So Vincenzo has said there wasn't any story to go with his pitch. It was more to do with the visual style.
To be fair, they are already very humanized.
Look at their body shape, hell, they even got five fingered hands shaped just like a human's. Even apes can't use their thumbs the way humans and Predators do, not as dexterous.
Plus the way they hunt for sport is very humanized, and collecting
heads as trophies? Name me another animal that does this (out of curiosity) besides a human.
They use spears, so do humans, they use blades, so do humans, they use ranged weapons, so do humans, they wear some form of clothing, so do humans. See what I mean? I don't really get this huge fear of humanizing the Predators. But I do however agree with you on keeping them a bit different from us and not literal Klingons.
I just LOVE the idea that the Predators despite being very similar to us are also incredibly alien. Their language alone is literally inimitable for our vocal cords to mimic and yet they themselves have no issues with mimicking our own language.
Their culture is quite alien and unique. How these clans are able to be space faring and still stick to barbaric traditions. It places them apart from the "we come for your resources" or "take me to your leader" kind of alien.
The Engineers are way more humanized than the Predators and that doesn't change the fact that they themselves are a very alien creature.
I respect your opinion, mate. Nothing wrong with your way of imagining the Predators. I just don't get this usual "they are being humanized" train of thought. In a way, AvP did show they "taught humans how to build", maybe it's the other way around and humans are too Predatorized. Let's see who else hunts for sport besides humans and Predators in this franchise. I don't see any Engineers or Arcturians collecting no heads. :P
And on the topic of bewbs. I don't mind female Predators having them. It doesn't really stop their females from being badasses. The new Tabletop figures of female Predators look pretty neat. I also like how apparently Dachande was able to tell Machiko Noguchi was female due to the two protrusions on her chest similar to the females of his race.
Hell, I prefer them to have breasts over the Hish's gender swapping ability.
Now, on the topic of the thread. The artwork looks a bit too stylish. Not bad though. I like how the last picture looks a bit as if the Predator is wearing an Engineer like bio-suit, that's what it reminded me of.
Quote from: DarthJoker45 on Jun 03, 2015, 11:29:02 PM
http://i.imgur.com/Q7HRcd6.jpg
This picture reminds me of those old school t-shirts where you see the green aliens with baggy jeans and white t-shirts flashing gang signs.
I really hope Shane Black's sequel and any others are proper sequels, as opposed to the cash-in 'Terminator Genisys' nonsense (not that I've seen that. I'm just predicting from the trailer). As in, don't cpy any one-liners, other than "You're/you are one ugly mother f**ker", as that's in all of them and in fact should be in a sequel. And just don't try and be clever generally with referencing; just make a sequel.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 05, 2015, 07:11:55 AMDefinitely disagree with you there. I'll take my female Predators without boobs. :)
Yeah, the "d-cup look" just seems like such a childish and unimaginative way of doing it.
Neat artwork. As someone who's fascinated by all the
Alien/
Predator scripts that never got made (even the crappy ones), I'd be really keen on finding out more about the substance of this film.
There wasn't any unfortunately.
Perhaps feminizing the shape of the body without adding breasts would suit everyone's tastes. It's hard to make something alien and still have it identifiable at the same time. The things we recognize as feminine traits would humanize too much. So you go and create off the wall changes that aren't what we are used to, people would have trouble identifying it a female....there would be a need to have dialogue in film to clarify that it's a female.
The artwork is very stylized and bland for my taste. I get a lot of the roswell grey alien combined with predator when I look at the images.
Interesting but not my cup of tea
Quote from: Njm1983 on Jun 21, 2015, 12:40:43 AM
The things we recognize as feminine traits would humanize too much. So you go and create off the wall changes that aren't what we are used to, people would have trouble identifying it a female....there would be a need to have dialogue in film to clarify that it's a female.
Not unless it somehow impacted upon the story.
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Vincenzo recently appeared on Best Movies Never Made to talk about his work on High Rise, but he was also asked about his Predators pitch.
QuoteWell Predator...that was right after Splice. And so I think people were interested in anything that had a creature in it, like I was on a list. And Predators, which I guess famously began as a script that Robert Rodrigquez had written many years before and was resurrected at Fox...When I was called into pitch, they basically said "we're not using that." There was nothing. There was no script. There was only the notion that this was going to take place on a Predator planet, or another planet. And there was kind of – I think there was a Dangerous Game aspect to it with humans being hunted by Predators.
And that was literally all that was being presented to me and I just had to go in, and I met with Robert Rodriquez and some executives – separately – and I just did a whole bunch of drawings. I just did drawings. It was actually a really fun project to pitch on because there was nothing...I could just let my imagination go wild. Like whatever crazy Predator image was conjured into my feeble mind I could immediately draw it and present it to them and I wasn't having to adhere to anything they were doing.
And the podcast also shared some different artwork that was done for it.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/vincenzo-natalis-high-rise-part-2/id1450737048?i=1000484584065
This would have been really interesting to see, Natali is an interesting director for sure.
Hi. Few years ago , I posted a comment on this site. Talking about this guy. Vincenzo. Cube is great , splice is great too. He is the guy we need for the next predator. And please forget the last one ... The Predacrap
Natali is a great director His world is what we need his mind too This guy can do something on both alien and predator
He is a talented interesting director. There's not a bunch of directors on the market , able to work on these franchise. Come on Vincenzo Thinks about it. We want a brand new movie alien and predator
If you work on it ... For sure it will be good. You are a true director. And forza italia
Fascinating
Hmm. What could have been. For the better is hard to ascertain.
At this point it would be wise to reconsider going back to game preserve planet and make Predators 2. Film is not very old and received far better then The Predator. Don't know about this director. He might have been good. It's not like I have any expectations at this point.
I wouldn't mind that
Yeah, I liked Royce.
About the only time I can think of when an actor was so badly miscast and yet somehow still managed to be excellent in the role.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Jul 23, 2020, 12:17:26 PM
Yeah, I liked Royce.
About the only time I can think of when an actor was so badly miscast and yet somehow still managed to be excellent in the role.
True. When I was reading script for the first time, I imagined Vin Diesel as Royce. Still think Diesel would have been outstanding Royce, but Brody performed surprisingly well.
Brody was never my ideal choice, he's still not, but he did a fine job (imo).
Quote from: Master on Jul 23, 2020, 11:06:12 AM
At this point it would be wise to reconsider going back to game preserve planet and make Predators 2. Film is not very old and received far better then The Predator. Don't know about this director. He might have been good. It's not like I have any expectations at this point.
I have to agree that this would be the way to go if they do anything more with the Predator franchise.
Whether they use the same planet or a different one, I hope it looks and feels more
alien the next time around. That was one of my main gripes with Predators. It played things too safe.
In retrospect now, it's a fantastic sequel especially in comparison to The Predator.
If they bring back the super predators I will personally tank the franchise single handedly out of spite. I swear it.
Quote from: PredBabe on Jul 26, 2020, 05:16:59 AMWhether they use the same planet or a different one, I hope it looks and feels more alien the next time around. That was one of my main gripes with Predators. It played things too safe.
That probably had more to do with budget than anything.
Yeah, that too. It was also designed that way, for the big surprise - IT'S NOT OUR PLANET! WE'RE GONA NEED A NEW PLAN! - After that we did get some alien vibes, like drilling plant.
In the sequel they could do more with setting from the start because there is no surprise to make any more. The more I think about it, the more I like this idea. Royce who lived on Preserve Planet for few years could give as more info about Predator species and blood feud that is going on out there. Something Ronald Noland was hinted to give us but finally failed to deliver.
Quote from: Tichinde on Jul 26, 2020, 07:57:35 AM
If they bring back the super predators I will personally tank the franchise single handedly out of spite. I swear it.
It all depends on execution. Super Predators weren't that good because they had less screen time than Preds from first two movies and because they acted more like hillbillies from Wrong Turn then the hunters we used to know and love.
Interesting. Loved Splice.
Yeah, I wanted to see them utilize more of the alien locations, like the drilling plant. Have the characters make use of their surrounding and alien locations, like integrating a drill rig or some type of alien machinery during a shootout/chase to aid in injuring or killing one of the Super Preds. It's something they could still do for a sequel.
I don't mind the "super predator" angle and Predators did make it sound like they were simply a larger breed/different tribe of the Predator species, which I prefer over the DNA splicing. But I think they failed at making them look larger and more menacing.
On the note of Super Preds and different species, I'd still like to see a proper rendition of Bad Blood Predators. I like the idea of a futuristic city setting, similar to that of Concrete Jungle's, and have a detective caught amidst a crime riddled city and 2 rogue, feuding preds. Throw the stolen Predator technology into the mix and it could make for some fun storytelling. But I think The Predator has tainted the chances for a Predator story like that to come to fruition any time soon... hell, it may have soiled the entire franchise.
I would have liked to have seem a couple of more aliens besides the River Ghost. It didn't have to be a full on frenzy of activity, but a little more weirdness would have helped.
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Yeah.... For all its flaws, I'm glad we got the version we did instead of this.
That giant stone predator head probably tops the AVP movie in terms of ridiculous architecture... It's so cheesy and overblown that it looks more like a Mortal Kombat stage than an actual location in the Predator universe.