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Title: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: Darkness on Jul 26, 2004, 12:38:43 AM

Well, this is the final confirmation of a PG13 rating. As predicted, the Official AvP Website has been updated with the PG13 logo:

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AvP has been rated PG13 for “Violence, language, horror images, slime and gore”. Maybe, ratings have changed these days and I’m sure AvP will be pushing the PG13 rating to the limit but it still doesn’t change the fact, that the previous Alien and Predator films were rated R. Here’s hoping for an uncut DVD edition.

Thanks to Jeff and Corpral Hicks for the news.

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Post by: Blaze on Jul 27, 2004, 12:45:08 AM
I guess im pissed (right?)   first lpost
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Post by: Cookies on Jul 27, 2004, 12:46:44 AM
i dont get it becuase doesnt have to be paul anderson?  I mean he makes the choices of editing.  So it eather means fox made some cuts behind pauls back or the movie wasnt that gory in the first place.  Becuase it isnt fox that makes the rating anyway..  So it has to be pauls fault in the part of how he did the voilent scences.
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: SCAR on Jul 27, 2004, 12:47:19 AM
Well no guess what i'm pist as well but it's time to fasse the fact's ,atlist there will still be gore and violence!thank GOD!!!  2ND POST!!!
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: Blaze on Jul 27, 2004, 12:50:17 AM
Russian roullete world champion chips:   Paul spins the chamber, puts the gun to his head!!!   We have a winner...
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Post by: flonge on Jul 27, 2004, 12:55:38 AM
Lets hope they make the best out of it!!!  I'm still a real fan and will not give up this movie easily. I'm going to see this one many times on cinema and hope for a uncut version if needed...  I loved the novelization and the movie can't be too different!  PG-13: I think's it's a bad call, but real fans won't give this one up...  We been waiting since P2 for this one, and finally PA makes a script which is Awsome and presents us AVP, I love it!
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Post by: Corpral Hicks on Jul 27, 2004, 12:56:40 AM
its still gore and all that, darkness aint u on ur pc? u aint on yim
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Post by: shakermakerman on Jul 27, 2004, 12:57:04 AM
I STILL HAVE HOPE FOR THIS MOVIE BUT A AM GUNNA GET A PIRATE NOW BUT I WILL SEE AT THE CINEMA , ONE MORE THING AMERICANS RATINGS ARE NOT AS STRICT AS THE UK SO I THINK IN UK THIS WILL BE A 15.. SORRY I AINT WAITING 2 MONTHS FOR THIS CAR BOOT SOON LOL
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: CHEEKY on Jul 27, 2004, 01:04:22 AM
Yes, I WAS GONNA PAY TO SEE THIS. Now all anticipation of good suspence and horror have been destroyed. I am expecting a 1hr 27min long Teenage Mutant Ninja tutles type of movie.  The only way I am seeing this one is: Alien.vs.Predator.centropy.recode.OneCd.avi   F*ck those greedy bastards at FOX !! They just can't butcher every movie like this, someone's gotta put a stop to this.
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Post by: Corpral Hicks on Jul 27, 2004, 01:07:24 AM
im gonna laugh so much if this films good!
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Post by: mrlee on Jul 27, 2004, 01:11:11 AM
think dudes T3 was R rated in america and 12a here, so if its rated pg-13 in americs it could be pg here. Damn this place, need direct dvd copy, not crappy internet pixel crap

this place as in england
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: Corpral Hicks on Jul 27, 2004, 01:13:27 AM
well us usally gets r1 dvds about a few weeks after the films released, just import it!
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: Vamp on Jul 27, 2004, 01:20:34 AM
slime?
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Post by: Maurice "HopeOfTheFuture" Huijs on Jul 27, 2004, 01:27:36 AM
Look at it:  Violence, Language, Horror Images, Slime and Gore,  sounds almost like a R-Rating movie :p  Stupid Paul Anderson, who always said he wanted a R-Rating. Damn you FOX.  Anyway, I still gonna see this movie, but I just hate this news.
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Post by: Chris on Jul 27, 2004, 01:30:35 AM
How can a chestbursting scene even begin to fit in the pg-13 rating.  The PG-13 rating was created because of indiana Jones and the temple of doom!!  This was because it was pretty dark and maybe abit extreme for kids!!! Yeah right!!!!  An Alien movie isn't an alien movie if they don't have the big red 18 or R on the poster.  Also the Alien series is well respected as it stands even with resurection involved!!  Imagine if this movie sucks it will slowly become like holloween and Nightmare on elm street series, a never ending pile of shit, minus the originals!!!!!!  f**k the bbfc and foX and I wait to see the movie b4 comenting on Anderson...
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: Somebody on Jul 27, 2004, 01:32:10 AM
20 years of good Alien and Predator movies, and now, in 2004, all comes tumbling down. Simply unbelievable.
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Post by: Corpral Hicks on Jul 27, 2004, 01:34:13 AM
the chestburster scene is apparently seen thro the preds vision!
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Post by: Chris on Jul 27, 2004, 01:51:55 AM
what are the bonus features discs in the quad listed as in r1, r2 are rated 15
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: Cookies on Jul 27, 2004, 02:09:50 AM
I know i was thinking the same thing.  Its been 20 years and to think this movie will bring both aliens and predator to new hights.   But only to find out its killing them yet again! After reading the book the only thing i really dont like is the grid alien, really stupid idea. Oh and im glad im not paying for the ticket anyway since im getting my free ticket from the pred dvd!!! SWEET
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: Demonicus666 on Jul 27, 2004, 02:43:48 AM
  >:D    Oh well I knew it Fox screwed up big time, I just want to see how good this film is gong to be with a damn pg-13 rating.  I doubt there will be as much "Violence, language, horror images, slime and gore" for Aliens and Predator to be in this type of film.  The lamest thing any company or movie franchise can do, is let the fans down after a long sucees of movies.  As I said in a previous post if it were not for us fans, Fox's Aliens, and Predator, would not be where it is today.  I hope this film does well, but I am still pissed off at the rating, I hope there is no damn editing, like you see a Pred is going to kill some human, then the camera cuts away, and u see nothing but hear screaming.  That is the worst way to interpret violence and gore, what have you on the film screen.  I hope Fox learns from this big mistake they are doing, becuase they let alot of fans that have waited 14 plus years, for this film to come out only to get a kiddy version of the two, most frecious creatures in the whole damn universe!  I want to ask Paul Anderson something, if you were such a fanboy as you say you are, I do not believe that you truly are a fan of Aliens and Predator.  Because if you truly were, you would not have let your fellow fans down, with a dumb rating as pg-13.
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Post by: true AvP fan on Jul 27, 2004, 03:01:47 AM
Heres my thing, everyone here has obviously seen the other movies in both of the franchises, well would anyone who has seen those movies please tell me how it is possible for this one to work with a pg-13 rating, i mean come on. Pg-13 is what dodgeball got, and i love dodgball, but if there is enough violence in a movie with dodgeballs thrown at people, and that got a pg-13 rating, than what chance does AvP have for staying true to the original movies.Can someone tell me that
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Post by: Adam Ricksworth on Jul 27, 2004, 03:06:49 AM
I told you all when this site first set up. Paul Anderson and Fox would be responsible for making a terrible movie. After this, I hope the terrible director that is Anderson never gets to ruin a big budget movie again. Why am I saying this? Because just saw the finished cut. Some nice set piece, here and there, but overall -  the nail in the coffin. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. Adam Ricksworth, UK
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: true AvP fan on Jul 27, 2004, 03:15:29 AM
can't believe it
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Post by: SCAR on Jul 27, 2004, 03:23:21 AM
So i guess this is the BEGINNING OF THE END 4 ALIEN and PREDATOR,as soon the movie come's out and it's not good ,ASTALA VISTA!!!!!
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: Somebody on Jul 27, 2004, 03:26:13 AM
I found this very strange....All four Alien movies were R, and all the two Predator movies were R. Maybe they rated this movie PG-13, becaus Paul Anderson didn't make it scary enough to be a R rated movie.  Maybe that's how Paul actually did the movie: when a predator goes to cut a man down, they cut the scene away........The trailer does show some scary moments and stuff, but it's just a 2 minute trialer for a 2 hour movie......I would not be suprised if AvP is going to be the worst movie of 2004. I HOPE TO GOD IT WON'T BE! But since it's PG-13, ANYTHING can happen.....
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: batman on Jul 27, 2004, 03:36:04 AM
how did you see the finished cut? How long was it?
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: Cookies on Jul 27, 2004, 03:39:12 AM
It is pauls fault.  Fox doesnt edit the movie.  So its paul who shot the movie and fox is more happy if it can get away with a pg13.  Pual didnt make it gory enough becuase hes just a shit director anyway.  Or fox sliped him a 20 to edit out the gory stuff.  One way or another its pauls fault becuase its his movie.
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: Jonesy on Jul 27, 2004, 03:40:21 AM
Ratings haven't changed these days, or if they have, they've changed in the opposite direction that you think - the MPAA is actually more strict today than its ever been. That study that you linked to days ago was a biased study done by an individual who has an interest in promoting the idea that movies are becoming more violent. She makes a living promoting this idea making speeches and doing 'studies' to get  government/university funds. This is a cash cow for her. If she found that movies were becoming less violent, which they are, then there'd be no reason for her to continue her 'work'. The study she did consisted of her and her aide just reading the descriptions of movies put out by the ratings board. She did not watch all the movies over the past couple decades; and probably has seen very few movies at all, especially action and horror movies - those are the kinds I'm sure she'd hate. This is one of these pacifist, intellectual types that basically turn's her nose up at anything sci-fi, horror, or action-oriented. Anyhow, all her study consisted of is reading the descriptions, like the "the rated PG-13 for violence, gore, slime,..." thing that AvP just got. Now how scientific is that? Its not. And everybody knows that over the years, recently especially, the MPAA has become more detailed about what they put in descriptions; they use to not have any at all - just a decade or so ago even. So you can see how that might make it appear that movies are becoming more violent, sexy, etc...  There's people out there, including this 'researcher/professor' you sited, that have an interest, politically and monetarily, to continue pushing this idea that movie content is sort of out of control and getting worse. The fact is if you've watched alot of movies over the years, which this researcher I'll bet hasnt, you know that they were much moreso in decades past - especially the 70s and 80s. Dont automatically believe these studies that you see in the media. They are not reliable. The people that do them often have a bias and political point-of-view and essentially find what they're looking for. And by linking to the story and repeating it over and over you are helping to spread this lie that is pressuring studios to censor movies.
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: true AvP fan on Jul 27, 2004, 03:51:40 AM
people, people, people. I can't believe we are trying to make up excuses for the situation. There is no getting around the fact that you just can't make a movie where two of the most sinister and evil beasts of movie history get together, with humans in the middle, might i add, and rip each other apart in their own respected ways, and have an outcome of a pg-13 movie. Now truely, you have to be angry from the beginning, because with a movie like this, there should be now way that there is even a hint of pg-13, if the movie was done right, then it would be a flat out R. This in not meant to be seen by little kids, i mean i saw it when i was young, but i saw the originals, the really gory ones.  So why get away from that, why try to please parents and little kids,  instead of the people who made the movies a hit in the first place. Very shady if you ask me, and i don't know if i can give my money to see a movie that i believe is ruining the franchises, the whole thing really bothers me.
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Post by: BobCat on Jul 27, 2004, 03:53:23 AM
Lets go un-rated DvD with a never before seen directors cut that comes out soon!!!!
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: true AvP fan on Jul 27, 2004, 03:54:35 AM
somebody who can, please get in touch with either Paul Anderson, or Fox and ask why this was done, will someone please do that, perhaps we can prevent this from happening again.
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Post by: batman on Jul 27, 2004, 03:56:21 AM
Indeed. Where are the head bite attacks, skinned bodies, people ripped in half, acid dissolving faces etc?  It's so bad there isn't even a drop of blood on the chestburster the pred catches after it eats and bites it's way out of a man's chest!
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Post by: dude on Jul 27, 2004, 04:03:23 AM
hey where is that dumbass who said he would ban himself from this site if it ended up being pg13? i bet he feels so stupid.    ;D  
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: true AvP fan on Jul 27, 2004, 04:06:41 AM
in predator 2 inside of the space ship, there sits an aliens skull in the trophy case, i would love to see in this movie how exactly it got there, but i fear with the current situation, i will definitely not see exactly how it got there. That is what bothers me, you have to stay true to things. Things that work should not be changed, i hope Fox finds out the hard way, now im not saying i don't want it to do good, because i do, i want them to build up the money to where they possibly could do a sequel, and make it right this time, with blood, and gore, and of course language, which brings me to my next point, the language or lack there of in the new movie.  Now i don't no about you, but if i were in the situation that the humans are in this movie, i would making up curse words i would be so scared.  How do you get a bunch of grown people, in between a war of the two monsters, and have them saying, dang, and freak, and crap.  Come on, fix that people, fix that.  Well i've about said it all, have a good time at this movie people, someone tell me how it went.
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Post by: Rluvah on Jul 27, 2004, 04:09:03 AM
Man, I was hyped, but now Im extremely fu$#$ing pissed. I feel betrayed  I waited years for this movie. Hell, I watched the first alien movie when i was 2 years old at the movies. I grew up watching horror.. Its sad that us true horror fans can no longer go see a 'R" rated movie anymore. Some of us like gore and action. I don't want to visualize  a predator digging his claws up somebody chest or pulling somebody spine out..I want to see it...Damn it!!  What fun is watching a chest buster burst in Predator vision then out pops a clean chestbuster without any blood....BORING!!!  Back in the day when I first saw Predator I was amazed.. I even like Alien resurrection.  Its said to see the end of both franchises..How could you even think about watering down the most brutal two species in the universal..Now we have to sadly see both Alien and Predator go out like Sucka's. Personally, I'd rather this shi#$t never been made if they gonna do this to it.. Im still gonna see it, because im a true fan.  I'm afraid fox  turned our creatures into Puss#$es.  I Bet Stan Winston is having a stroke right now....How could you do this to me FOX!!!!!
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Post by: SENTINEL on Jul 27, 2004, 04:09:38 AM
well you what guys,if they really really really push the pg-13 limlit,then it has a chnace to be just as gory like the others,but they really got to push it OT ITS LIMLITS!,BUT YOU KNOW IM OK WITH IT NOW,BECAUSE PG-13 LIMLIT CAN GET PRETTY CLOSE TO A R RATING MOVIE,SO IM OK WIT IT GUYS   >:D   FINE YOU WIN PG-13 LOVERS YOU WIN YOU HAPPY, IM WITH YOU.
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Post by: renno on Jul 27, 2004, 04:11:13 AM
we can still hope the all the little kiddies mummys and daddys rember how scary the preds and aliens are ment to be and stop there kids seeing it and then ha ha fox lose out as the fans hate the edited crap and the kids cant see    ;D  
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: MoBiUG on Jul 27, 2004, 04:14:31 AM
Man, some of you people are very very sad. It's a PG13... that doesn't mean the film sucks. Jesus. Here in the UK our rating system goes like this -   U - Can be seen by anyone. 12a - Can be seen by a child under 12 with an adult. 12 - Can be seen by anyone over 12 15 - Can be seen by anyone over 15 18 - Can be seen by anyone over 18  In essense, your R rating is our 18 BUT IT DOESN'T ALWAYS FOLLOW. Terminator 3 was an R in the states but got into UK cinemas with a 12 cert and NO CUTS. Was T3 a decent Terminator flick because it was rated R for you guys? Ratings are not important, the film is important. If the film sucks, so be it. My point is that AvP could have been the goriest film ever made but it could still have sucked. Quit moaning and make up your minds once you've seen it.
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: Rluvah on Jul 27, 2004, 04:20:27 AM
Man, I was hyped, but now Im extremely fu$#$ing pissed. I feel betrayed  I waited years for this movie. Hell, I watched the first alien movie when i was 2 years old at the movies. I grew up watching horror.. Its sad that us true horror fans can no longer go see a 'R" rated movie anymore. Some of us like gore and action. I don't want to visualize  a predator digging his claws up somebody chest or pulling somebody spine out..I want to see it...Damn it!!  What fun is watching a chest buster burst in Predator vision then out pops a clean chestbuster without any blood....BORING!!!  Back in the day when I first saw Predator I was amazed.. I even like Alien resurrection.  Its said to see the end of both franchises..How could you even think about watering down the most brutal two species in the universal..Now we have to sadly see both Alien and Predator go out like Sucka's. Personally, I'd rather this shi#$t never been made if they gonna do this to it.. Im still gonna see it, because im a true fan.  I'm afraid fox  turned our creatures into Puss#$es.  I Bet Stan Winston is having a stroke right now....How could you do this to me FOX!!!!!
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: true AvP fan on Jul 27, 2004, 04:25:10 AM
why is this movie still not rated in the mpaa film database?
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Post by: Timo on Jul 27, 2004, 04:36:12 AM
This just SUX    >:D   I cant believe it. If its PG-13 in the USA it will be allowed to see it at the age of 12 here in Germany. God, im really shocked about those news. This is just bullshit    >:D  
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: MoBiUG on Jul 27, 2004, 04:40:59 AM
Actually, a PG13 usually translates into a 15 over here. It's obviously not a kids flick.
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Post by: G-Dog on Jul 27, 2004, 04:54:18 AM
Told you people. FOX's way to get more people in the theaters and make more money is to tag this movie with a PG-13. Thats about the only good thing about this...........more money for this film, better chance for it NOT to flop. I mean, this is Aliens and Predators going at it on the big screen people. THE most anticipated movie in film history I bet! you bet your ass FOX is going to try to get as much $$ out of this as they can! The crappy thing about it.........it just happens to be the only way for that to happen is to do ecatly that..tag it with a PG-13 rating??? You know what? You don't see George Lucas having his final cut of his films being ripped apart! I bet Paul did make this movie keeping it true to the originals. But here comes the people who provided the funds...........wanting to suck every bit of life out of a great film to be. Damn it, COME ON FANS, foxmovies@fox.com is the e-mail for fox (duh) that some one posted on here. Its up to us fans to let FOX know how we feel about it. Stop bitchin and lets do something about it. And its true about pushing a PG-13 movie to the edge. Look at Jaws, it was PG and it didn't stop them from showing arms washing up on shore, and having a fuc-ing shark bite a man almost in half, or see meat in the shark's mouth after eating someone, or showing the shark get blown the f--k up with blood filling the ocean.......need I say more? I still can't wait for AVP! I am dying to see this movie, I just hope that they show a sneak preview of AVP at the base theater like they did with T3!!!! a couple of days before it came out world wide!!!  Bit-h slap the kids if they get roudy, and show em why AVP is not for kids!! LOL!
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Post by: Cetanu on Jul 27, 2004, 05:00:24 AM
Guys, I've got great news on the length of AvP. Listen, I downloaded the entire Aliens script off of this site and copy and pasted it into word. Then entire script ran 121 pages in word. Remember now, the script had nothing cut out of it yet like in the theatrical film, making it 154 minutes on the Director's Cut, but in the regular movie it was 137 minutes. If the AvP script is indeed 110 pages like Anderson told us, then the movie should run around 2 hours or more....good news I'd say!

You have to remember now, if the script being 121 pages made the film 154 minutes, then with the regular movie being cut down to 137 minutes, then the regular script had to have been trimmed down several pages as well bringing it real close to about 110 pages maybe, making the 134 min for AvP all the more realistic.
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: G-Dog on Jul 27, 2004, 05:11:34 AM
DDAAAAAAAAAAMMMNNN............   ???   Good shit...........   8)  
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Post by: ExarKunM3 on Jul 27, 2004, 05:20:05 AM
Don't expect a directors cut. You can tell Paul Anderson was planning on making this PG-13 from the start. Proof: The chestburster in the trailers has absolutely no blood at all on it. How f**ked up is that?
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Post by: eXhale on Jul 27, 2004, 05:30:09 AM
i dont think that it'll get a 12 in germany... it'll probably be a soft 16... but when i first heard about the movie i was wondering whether it would be 16 oder 18... damn it...
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: MoBiUG on Jul 27, 2004, 05:32:55 AM
ExarKunM3, the directors don't make these decisions. The studio funds the flick, the studio pulls the strings. If they say this thing is going to be a PG13 there's nothing anyone can do about it.
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: true AvP fan on Jul 27, 2004, 05:39:17 AM
i've got to tell you, the length of the movie is great and all, but in the in, it's still just a longer pg-13 movie, now i know that there is nothing we can do about this now, i mean it's already on the official website and everything, but shouldn't we make sure that fox catches hell about this whole thing, and as i said from the beginning, this is one of those types of movies that should have never been in the same breath as a pg-13 movie, i mean take the old movies, cut out the swearing, the violence, the gore, the blood and etc., and you don't have a movie, the films would have never made it because there would be nothing there.  Same with this movie, except they did do that, so will there be anything there worth watching, i really don't know, hope so, but with the lack of allegiance to the original movies, i do doubt it.
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: MoBiUG on Jul 27, 2004, 05:41:34 AM
Interesting you should mention cutting out the "Violence, language, horror images and gore"... because it's those elements that earned the film it's PG13 cert.  Jesus, I hope you all enjoy the film. Really I do. It's crazy how everyone goes off on one. The rating doesn't change much.
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Post by: nmlgh on Jul 27, 2004, 05:48:38 AM
Exorcist: The Beginning just got a nc-17  those @#$%# are making them cut sceens so it is rated R AvP is a lost cause to me now i wont see it.  Boycott this movie take a stand make them lose money for making shit.  BUt we all know it will be top box office because its holds the tittle AvP.
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: true AvP fan on Jul 27, 2004, 05:52:08 AM
with this series, the violence, language, gore and so on are supposed to be a little more graphic then in your basic pg-13 movie. Take a look back, the last movies in no way came close to pg-13 movies, at least in my opinion, they had some pretty graphic images, some hardcore violence and gore, and oh yea, a pretty good bit of bad laguage.
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: nmlgh on Jul 27, 2004, 05:55:42 AM
A LINE FROM AvP The has one of the men getting burned on the arm by acid and o boy he is a tuff one " O golly gee whoppers this sure does burn"
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: MoBiUG on Jul 27, 2004, 05:56:14 AM
Some people on here... I quote...  "Boycott this movie take a stand make them lose money for making shit."  YOU HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN THE FILM YET   ???  
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: Hunterkiller on Jul 27, 2004, 05:58:23 AM
No way   >:D   I'm friggin' fifteen and i wanted it to be R!!!  Well it makes sense. I finished the book and the way it was described indicates aliens taking people into shadows and killing them. Not really a cut off but very anticlimatic.  I guess i should be happy since i don't have to hold my dad at gunpoint to see it   :D  ...
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: MoBiUG on Jul 27, 2004, 06:05:32 AM
Nothing anti-climactic about cutaway violence. Infact, in some cases, it can be quite horrifying. Have any of you people actuall seen "Alien?" It's the greatest sci-fi horror movie ever made and that's FULL of cutaway violence. Infact, gore is very fleeting in that film.
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: G-Dog on Jul 27, 2004, 06:05:37 AM
PG-13 states: Parents STRONGLY cautioned. VIOLANCE, LANGUAGE, HORROR images, slime (?), and GORE. Sounds like all the shit people complain about to me.
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: nmlgh on Jul 27, 2004, 06:08:46 AM
i wont watch a pg13 alien movie thats that.  I dont care how good the plot is, which after reading reviews on the script isnt worth a damn.  They make an ass load off this censorship they will do it again.  I WANT GORE not your sissy cut sceens
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: Hunterkiller on Jul 27, 2004, 06:10:31 AM
Another thing. As any of u ppl seen the tremor movies? The first one had a lot of f**ks and a human severred head plus lots of "Creature violence and gore." There is still hope left...
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: MoBiUG on Jul 27, 2004, 06:14:00 AM
"i wont watch a pg13 alien movie thats that. I dont care how good the plot is"  ... FREAK!   ;D  
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: true AvP fan on Jul 27, 2004, 06:15:26 AM
Most people would agree that there is no way possible for Freddy Vs. Jason to have been pg-13, i mean these guys did some crazy shit, chopping peoples heads off, tearing them limb from limb, killing them so violently with blood and gore everywhere, and lots of language to follow that. Wait a minute, that sounds alot like the old predator and alien movies, it sounds alot like them, so tell me, how did this one become pg-13, seriously, it's just not right, you can justify it all you want, but in the end, it's just not right. Thats just the way i feel.
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: AngryHobo on Jul 27, 2004, 06:21:26 AM
So the movie is Pg-13 and "fans" are pissed...but isn't this movie just an excuse to see Preds and Aliens duke it out on the big screen? The tag "slime and gore" leads me to believe that the creature violence is still in tact dut to the unrealistic nature of the creatures, as I have stated before. And about PA editing the movie, while true as it is, Fox and the producers are the investors of the movie and can either sway the director with threats of project abandonment, or choose not to even release the movie if they don't get their way. Even the biggest fan of Avp would choose to release the movie with a PG-13 than to send it into development hell for another 10 years...
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: G-Dog on Jul 27, 2004, 06:21:51 AM
nmlgh and true avp fan, can I qute you two in this letter that i am e-mailing to fox? need answer ASAP.
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: ALIEN WARRIOR on Jul 27, 2004, 06:22:09 AM
well we finally know what the damn rating is for AVP. i am going to see AVP to see the 2 badass alien lifeforms getting the shit out of each other. i've seen some good movies that are PG-13 and it has some pretty good violence and language. hopefully AVP would do good in the box office which i hope so. i hope also that Fox learns a lesson from this of making AVP a PG-13 movie which it should have gotten an R rating. i think we all alien and predator fans could have done a much better aliens vs predator movie and i think we all would stand our ground and tell Fox that i'm not doing a PG-13 movie this is gonna be a R movie and it would have all the graphic violence that both franchises had. i wouldnt want to disappoint all the fans of the movies i would do it for the fans. paul anderson to me isnt a true alien and predator fan and if he was he would have stand his ground and tell Fox that this is gonna be rated R with tons of graphic violence, gore, and stronger language. lets all give AVP a chance and if it sucks we'll all blame Fox and paul anderson. i am gonna give this movie a chance and i hope it is a great movie and we all been waiting for this movie to come out after the events of predator 2 seeing the alien's head in the predator's trophey chamber to see the alien takes on the predator. ALIENS AND PREDATOR MOVIES RULES!!!!!!!!!!!! ALL THE FANS HERE OF BOTH ALIENS AND PREDATOR MOVIES ARE THE TRUE FANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   8)     :)     ;D     ;D     8)     8)     :)     ;D     :)     ;D     8)     :)     ;D  
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: AdamJZ on Jul 27, 2004, 06:26:05 AM
STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT PG-13!!!! and the movie is already been proven to be 2hours long!!!! CInemark said it was rated R diddnt it??? so why should we believe the 1hour and 27 mins??? WHO CARES ABOUT THE RATING!!!!! THIS COULD ACTUALLY BE A GOOD TURN FOR THE FRANCHISE!!!!
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: G-Dog on Jul 27, 2004, 06:28:20 AM
true AVP fan: your entire post in 67. Thanks nmlgh.
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: *bury on Jul 27, 2004, 06:28:30 AM
we should believe the 1 hour 27 min thing becasue the book was short
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: MoBiUG on Jul 27, 2004, 06:29:04 AM
... Actually, your Freddy Vs Jason description sounds a whole lot like the old Nightmare and 13 flicks from which both characters came.  Alien - Low on gore. Aliens - Low on gore, think about it. Alien 3 - More gory than the first two. Alien Resurrection - By far the most gory, but also the worst of the series because it lost all the tension.  Predator - Gore Predator 2 - Gore  Finding a balance can't be easy. But AvP won't be completely clean. Jesus, it's not rated a U so it's not for everyone Parents are Strongly Cautioned due to language and violence... hello, people?
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: AdamJZ on Jul 27, 2004, 06:29:25 AM
GUYS!!! do not worry, we should get some answers on tonights Paul Anderson's Q&A session.
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: nmlgh on Jul 27, 2004, 06:33:04 AM
and he will say nothing negative what are you expecting him to bash his own movie?
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: *bury on Jul 27, 2004, 06:33:37 AM
hey true avp fan STOP bbeing a lil bitch the two better alien films(first 2) didnt have gore and the last two did and werent even close to as good as the first two. the only reason ALien was rated R was becasue there wastn a pg-13 back tehn and Aliens was rated R because of language ya fool
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: MoBiUG on Jul 27, 2004, 06:34:49 AM
When faced with such hatred I'm sure he'll have a few things to say. Like  1) It's still violent, read the damn rating your moaning gits.  2) There's a directors cut DVD coming out.  3) This film wouldn't exist if it wasn't for me you ungrateful bastards.
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: Predgirl on Jul 27, 2004, 06:36:22 AM
All you guys still complaining over a stupid rating god please.  Come on be happy that the movie is coming out and besides probably there won't be even little kids seeing this movie anyway.  I went to see I Robot with my dad and said to him there is alot of older people seeing this movie.  I didn't even seen a little kid in the movie and it was rated PG 13.  It seems to me all you fans here just want to complain about everything on this movie which none of you yet have not seen.  About boycotting it that also shows your not even a fan of AVP anyway.  I'm still going to see it and not because of the rating or if its good or bad just because it has Alien and Predator in it.   So I'm not going to complain until I see it for myself I just wish you do the same.  Besides o don' t go see because of Fox or PA I don't care I want to see it because I like a good entertaining movie to watch and be happy that I finally got to see a Predator kick a$$ and an Alien kick a$$.   People be happy that we finally get to see them both on the big screen at last.  I can't take this anymore all of you complaining over something so simple.
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: Ravenger on Jul 27, 2004, 06:36:50 AM
think about this, aliens was a great film and there really wasnt much gore in it, the only reason it was R was because of the language, the only gorey scene was with the chestburster in the hive. im sure this movie will be somewhat similar to aliens in the gore factor, its still going to be good!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: *bury on Jul 27, 2004, 06:37:43 AM
ok u have said this like 10 times please we get the point, ur going to see the movie, great
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: J on Jul 27, 2004, 06:40:49 AM
Paul Anderson has made the movie that would have been spent in development Hell for a good few years.  HE HAS DONE NOTHING WRONG AND SOULDN'T GET THE BLAME FOR ANYTHING!!   he made this movie the way HE saw it ( whether gory or otherwise ) and from ALL images from the movie has done a terrific job.
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: HellAlien on Jul 27, 2004, 06:48:16 AM
Well parents r strongly recommended, its something good to read in a not so good news.  AvP is AvP, i will c this, boycut the sequel if the first is dumb. But c this one first. Fox will know That they screwed up if they did, just like PA will know. But seeing that rating, violence, language, slime ( thats maybe cuz some ppl have nausea when they c something like that ) gore, its giving me a bit more confidence in this. Its still 13, but it might be a Hell of a 13 .    Todays rating r different tham before, its not true that today, the mpaa r more strict. gore will rarely make a movie go R, the language will, but we c gore everyday. Look at final destination 2, it was 13, and it had some hard gore there, but almost no cursed words. Alot of movie were only R cuz of there language. This movie will be poor on " f**ks ". Kids r all finding it cool to see some guts, mpaa know that.  But kids wont slaughter their cats to see them . Gore is not pushing someone to go nuts and kill ppl to see gore. So its not getting a rating that high cuz of that.  Games have more gore than most movies. How many times can ya c gore in a shooter ??  and kids r playing that shooter all the time. Its different from " real life " but still, kids r seeing it all the time.  Language and sex will get a rating high. Not gore that much anymore.   So think to that guys. Fox maybe said to PA that they will change his script a bit. They want to do a 13 to have more money, so to do so, they cut the gore A LIL BIT, but mostly cut the language. Wich will get the rating to 13, but we will still be able to c the gore we disurv. Like " lets cut out those 3 f**ks there, and we will be able to see that guy gettin the wristblades in tha head. A good compromise. " You know , that could be the case here. Taught to that ??
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: Cookies on Jul 27, 2004, 06:52:04 AM
Ok so killing something is alot more acceptable then swearing.  Good parenting.
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: G-Dog on Jul 27, 2004, 06:55:46 AM
LOL!! that was great.
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: true AvP fan on Jul 27, 2004, 07:07:52 AM
okay, okay, you win, lets all go see the AvP movie, lets take our little cousins while we are at it, because yes, they are allowed too, but first, ask their parents because they are strongly cautioned, don't forget to do that.  In the end i'm sure your cousins will love it. And maybe you will to, who knows. It's a movie for the whole family. Alien Vs. Predator is a movie for the whole family, my damn. WOW!! that shit is just great.

Parents Strongly Cautioned  SOME material may be inappropriate for children under 13.  MOST of it's okay though, so don't worry
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: Demonicus666 on Jul 27, 2004, 07:14:03 AM
Thanks Hell Alien for the comment you made last post about agreeing with me that Pual Anderson is not a true fan, becuase if he truly was he would have made it R rated no matter what.  You also Hell Alien are a true fan, and true fans should stick to the roots of what is Alien and Predator.  I mean come on people isnt if obivious from a recent Cat-w**men moive, that if you f**k with the fans, you get no support.  I think Fox should have been smart enough not to pull a move like this, but boy was I wrong.  Oh well I must accept the fate that well if it turns out good, its good if it turns out bad its bad.
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: HellAlien on Jul 27, 2004, 07:15:26 AM
I dont say that it is better to kill something damn it. But face it, kids r seeing more gore today than ever before, its almost normal to c something gettin shred now. Games r way more violent than movies. Doom 3 for example, kids r gonna play that game. Im not takin lil kids of 7-10 years old, but 12-15 yes, and alot. Of curse a movie is more direct, its always kinda shockin to c someone gettin his head headbited. Just look aroud ya, our world is having gore as an entertainement now. The other day, my cousin was watchin candyman with his friends, there a scene where you c a guy gettin his hand cut off, another where you see a guy getting wide open with all the lil souds and all. And they were all there laughing and finding it cool. They were 12 years old.  You wont c any 10 years old in the cinema, parents r not dumb. but gore is cooltoday, not disgusting anymore. There is gonna be gore in this, a headbite is now cool, not frightening, just like the chestburster.  just ask 12 years old on the streets, youll c by yourself.
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: The_Jerk on Jul 27, 2004, 07:49:59 AM
Well, like I've said in previous posts...It wouldnt surprise me that FOX was going to do this just to pull in more money and what not for their future marketing strategy in a sense. I do blame Paul for the mere fact that when someone gives their word in written stone that hes "LITERALLY" going to do stuff and make it R, that I take it his word for it, but apparently that isnt enough and this is the make or break movie of his career..If AvP flops, you can kiss Pauls Career down the shittube and not worry about him getting anymore good movies. Like darkness stated, Im going to wait now to see Pauls Response as to why they gave it the Pg-13 and his excuse as to why he had no decision... So Paul why did it get a Pg-13 Rating?   Well...They LITERALLY gave me a shitload of money and I couldn't refuse, these are my favorite movies and I just did what they told me so I LITERALLY had no choice and gave in, sorry guys...
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: :O!!! on Jul 27, 2004, 07:54:23 AM
ok ok ok.... theres only one major point people seem to be missing here. Back in the seventies when a gory film came out, it was given the R rating straight away, why? because people had nevr seen such horror and/or gore. but now it seems people just arnt well...scared anymore by gore. weve seen it all. wether it be a creatur burst out of a mans chest, people having there skin ripped off hanging from the ceiling, a teenage girl masturbating with a cross, countless heads ripped off, guts spilled etc etc etc..you get the picture. So in this day and age it takes alot to shock veiwers. What if anderson sticked to the same level of gore as the original alien? still gory, just not as shocking anymore. also we should all watch the film first then judge as fans....OR....you americans can watch it and tell us english how good/crappy it is :D. wonder if it will be more gory than shrek?? hhmmmm.....
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: baseman on Jul 27, 2004, 07:55:06 AM
WARNING: SPOILER CONTENT AHEAD.   If you don't want to know what happens in one of the scenes, don't read ahead.  This is for the people who love to bitch about the rating and think that the Aliens and Predators will be playing rock/scissors/paper because it is a PG13 movie. Okay, So like I mentioned before, I went to Comic-con this weekend and They showed an AVP Clip, this is what happened:  The Celtic Predator was walking down one of the rooms in the temple heading towards the humans. Alexa gets in his way, and he bitch slaps her out of the way, then Bishop Weyland gets in the way, bitchslaped to the other side.  Then the Italian guy (I'm pretty sure he is italian) tries to hit the Celtic Pred, and the pred picks his ass up by the throat.  Alexa, now on the floor, looks around and finds a gun or some shit on the floor and starts crawling towards until until BAM, while on all fours, she gets kicked in the gut and flys smack into a wall.  Another Pred in Camoflauge comes out (he was the pred that kicked her), walks up to her and holds his spear to her face.  Then, slowly creeping from the background, you see something decending from behind the predator (the camouflauged pred, not the celtic pred).  SHANK!  The PRED gets an Alien tail right through him just like the queen did to Bishop in Aliens.  The Alien (not a queen) picks up the pred w/ its tail, Turns him so they are face to face.  Shot of the Preds mask (who is no longer camoflauged) and you can see a reflection of the Alien in the Mask, then a camera shot to the alien, it makes a head shot to the alien and then pred blood spills on the floor.  It is a cut away shot.  The Celtic pred hears some drama, turns to look, his view changes from IR to alien mode and he sees the alien killing his buddy.  Drops the human and goes to f**k up the alien.   The Alien, creeps out of the corner he was in, and jumps down towards the celtic pred.  The Alien whips his kick ass tail towards the pred, miss, hit, miss then the alien trips the pred (seen in trailer) and the alien pounces on him.  They are fighting and the humans sneek out.  The Alien then scratches his mask (in trailer). The Alien uses his tail for a head shot of the pred and the pred dodges it.  The tail gets stuck into the floor.  The pred's arm is free, flips out his wristblades, then the blades "flip" so that the hook towards the outside of his hand, and slices off the end of the tail.   The alien jumps up, in pain.  The pred looks at it, and tackles the alien through a wall.  The Alien is on the floor and the Pred picks him up by the legs, swings him so that the alien's head is smacked up against one wall, then another, then another, then is spun around and thrown to who knows where.    THE CROWD CHEERS (DAMN!!!!!)  SO that is what I got to see.  It was tight.  If you think i'm lying, check out the comic-con schedule.  And when you see the flick b/c there is true AVP action, then you will see i'm not lying.    Get over it.  Well see when the movie comes out.  I'll shut up and be really sad if it sucks, but from what I saw, it was pretty damn cool.!!!
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: true AvP fan on Jul 27, 2004, 07:55:46 AM
who all out there thinks Paul Anderson is a true fan of the Alien and predator series.  If so, please explain to me why he just directed a pg-13 movie with both the characters alien, and predator.  Huh, what a fan, the man took two of the greatest horror/sci-fi series and pretty much doomed in a large respect.  Really, he had to have a say, he's the freakin director, and does fox think they are really making a good decision here.  Man i hope they don't mess with the possibilities of a Predator 3, or ALien 5 movie. Please Fox, spare the fans the heartache.

I can't blame PA as much as i do Fox, hell, i like Event Horizon, but he has to express, as a true fan and all, his disapproval of Fox ever thinking of making a pg-13 predator and alien movie.  Well it's too late now, and that really bothers me, if only they could turn back time and make this thing right.
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: The_Jerk on Jul 27, 2004, 07:59:52 AM
To   baseman , that is a direct relation to the novel's plot...it happened all the way it was described...read the book if you haven't by now.
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: Galmorzu on Jul 27, 2004, 08:00:14 AM
true AvP fan:  It doesn't matter if he's the director or not.  He's not a huge director like Spielburg or Cameron is, so when Fox say they want it to be a PG-13 movie, that's what they get.  Or they kick his butt off the project and replace him with someone more manageable.  That's the business for you.

lol, I'll bet he raised all holy hell with Fox about their decision, and probably tried to get them to change their minds, but evidently he didn't win this one.
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: true AvP fan on Jul 27, 2004, 08:04:47 AM
That little seen sounded kind of tight, but in the old days it would have gone a little more like this, the predator would see his buddy messed up, gone over there, took his wrist blades and cut the alien in a million pieces, keeping the head, you would have see alien guts and blood everywhere on the screen, why, because knocking an alien up against a wall to kill just doesn't seem like the predators style, he's a little meaner if you know what i mean.
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: The_Jerk on Jul 27, 2004, 08:09:33 AM
How can this movie be a sequel to Predator 1/2 when these preds get their asses slaughtered...gah its so pathetic seriously...   >:D  
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: Galmorzu on Jul 27, 2004, 08:11:19 AM
That's not how it kills that alien.    ;)    He's jsut trying to knock it around to weaken it, but it doesn't work too well.   baseman:  I heard about that clip.  A friend of mine was at the con and he saw the same thing, though he missed the begining.  Still, even he said it looked really good and he's looking forward to seeing AvP.
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: true AvP fan on Jul 27, 2004, 08:12:47 AM
i'm sure i'm making some of you out there mad, and i truely am not trying to. But you have to be a little dissapointed with this movies rating to, i mean i know that i havn't seen it, so i can't talk bad about the movie itself, but i do criticize the decision to make it pg-13, i love both of the franchises, i mean they are my absolute favorites, and they became that because of how they were made in the first place.  Now i hear that they must be made differently simply by the rating i see. It just bothers me that it came to that, this is a no holes barred, white knuckle kind of movie, at least it should have been. PG-13  is just not the way to go, there should never had been a doubt about it being R, that bothers me alot, the true fans wanted it to stay true to the originals, because thats why we all are sitting here anticipating this movie, well, my anticipation took a hard it with this PG-13 news, i just pray it tries it's best to hold true to the monsters ancestors.
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: CelticPredator on Jul 27, 2004, 08:13:05 AM
ok some of u guys r pissing me off. the chestburst no blood is the fact it is a f**kING TRAILER GODDAMNIT,IM SO SICK OF U GUYS SAYING OH NO BLOOD ON THE ALIEN ITS GONNA SUCK. WHATCH THE DAMN MOVIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!! sry for my laugage darkness but as u can see im pretty pissed.   >:D  
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: Galmorzu on Jul 27, 2004, 08:13:36 AM
The_Jerk:  Because the preds never fought aliens in pred 1 or 2.     8)  
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: Galmorzu on Jul 27, 2004, 08:16:35 AM
true AvP fan:  I hear what you're saying, and it's cool.  I'd REALLY rather this be rated R myself, but I do think it's possible that it can still be a really fun movie if it's worked right.  It may turn out bad, but it might not, so I'm not going to jump to conclusions and proclaim that it sucks before I see it.  That's all I'm saying.
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: SENTINEL on Jul 27, 2004, 08:20:22 AM
Guys im sorry you know me,im a big gore and blood freak when it comes to AVP,but if they push the pg-13 rating to ITS VERY VERY limit you wouldnt think that the movie was pg-13 you think it was rated R,there is one movie i saw Riddick 2 and that movie was really good and it was pg-13 and it had some violence in it so,if they push it,i mean really push it to its pg-13 limlit,Im sorry guys but it still could be a good movie,im not saying im joining the KIDS group who want it pg-13 im just saying there is a chance they could get away with alot of stuff and still have it pg-13,THERE is a chance here,lets hope for that now,its pointless to talk about it anymore,lets just hope they push the limit,but if they dont push it and its really a full flesh pg-13 kids movie then it will be stupid, its only hope is to push the pg-13 rating to its very last string,if they do that there will be plenty of blood and gore.But still it woundt comepare to the realism if it was rated R,im sorry but remember the first scene in predator 2 my god that was violent,you could never show the the true violence we have seen in the past in a pg-13 movie but there still is a chance guys,lets just pray for it now.
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: The_Jerk on Jul 27, 2004, 08:20:42 AM
Galmorzu Well, Im taking into also consideration of the novels/comics as well Gal..not what we have seen in prior Pred/Alien movies...I mean Paul states that the Predators in this movie would kick the preds asses in the 1/2 films..And considering what I've read from the book, these Predators to me are pretty crappy...   ???  
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: Galmorzu on Jul 27, 2004, 08:27:23 AM
That's a good point, they do get pounded on most of the time, don't they?  "Plenty of Alien and Predator death to go around," my butt.     :D    The book made it pretty one-sided.  I just meant that in relation to the past movies, there's no way to tell how a Pred *should* fare against aliens, which seem like they aren't being watered down as they've been in some comics (and don't get me wrong, I love those comics).
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: The_Jerk on Jul 27, 2004, 08:34:17 AM
Yeah I know what you mean..this movie was totally sided for Aliens for no purpose what so ever...I wouldve at least liked to see 3 of the 5 preds do some damage other than our HERO Pred...   :-\   Oh well, 13 yrs later and this was the best script they could use? Blah...I think the next movie...for ALIENS should be based off the dark horse of   ALIENS: Earth HIVE ...Why is it this franchise is the only one that doesnt go with the comics? Spidey/Punisher/Etc Etc all did..what makes this one some exception?
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: Cetanu on Jul 27, 2004, 08:39:45 AM
The_Jerk, your a genuine dumbass. The scene that baseman described is nowhere close to being similar to the one in the novel you idiot. Listen up, and listen good! In this live scene, the Celtic is slapping people left and right out of the way, in the book that never happened once. Also, in the novel, the Pred that grabs Lex didn't hold a spear to her neck, he used his wrist blades, and after seeing her fearless expression, he hesitates in killing her which allows for the Alien's sneak attack. To add on that, the Pred in the movie was described as being cloaked, in this scene he was described as being cloaked when the Alien impales him. In the novel, the Pred is described as being drawn up into the dark and you hear him getting ripped apart, you never see it. In the movie scene though, the Pred gets a sencondary jaw to smash through his mask and tear out his face. This scene could very well be the one we see in the trailers all the time of the Alien and Pred face to face just inches apart, cause if you notice, that Pred's head is rolling around then just stops moving all together, then the Alien snaps at him stamping AvP on ths screen. That could be the cut - away baseman talked about. Guys, quit trying to use the book as a reliable source, because it will be nowehere close to what the movie turns out to be. Sorry you dumbass punks, who whine about an R - Rating and claim how the book has *spoilers*, bullshit people! I hear another whimper about the rating or another word spoken about how Paul Anderson and AvP sucks, I will personally send you home with your tail between your legs, all of you inmature punks are pushing my patience to the breaking point. This site is for fans, and as of late there have been a lot of 'critics' invading. All of you need to leave here willingly right now, or get run off by me.
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: The_Jerk on Jul 27, 2004, 08:45:17 AM
Woah Woah woah Cetanu..fkking relax man...I wasnt trying to go detailed to detailed...word for word what happened..but the book in the same sense did happen what was showin the movie as Baseman described..If you have nothing better to do than ridicule me because I wasnt specific on it, then get real man..I was only trying to relate what I read from the book to what is apparently going to happen in the movie..plus or minus what has been changed in the movie..take a midol man...
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: topman on Jul 27, 2004, 09:01:00 AM
people want to see  the alien rip the preds face. thats what they want to see!!!! they could have made this one of the best R rated movie of the year!!  take Blade for example, that movie made a lot of money, was based on a comic book and was R RATED!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: SaNdMaNxX on Jul 27, 2004, 09:03:11 AM
well now lets hope that the film aint a peice of shit like the rating iz
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: topman on Jul 27, 2004, 09:06:30 AM
this is all bullocks to me!!   >:D   saying that they will make more money if its a PG-13 is all shit talk because it depends on how good the film really is.

when i asked lots of people about the film AVP it was going to be a pg-13 they all thought that i was lying until i showed them the rating, they all freaked!!! they said just by having an Alien and Predator in the film would give a higher rating
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: G-Dog on Jul 27, 2004, 09:16:35 AM
To The_Jerk: The reason why ANY of these two franchises DO NOT GO with the comics is becuase these movies WERE NOT made FROM comics!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: PG13 Gone Live On AvP Site
Post by: Jack244 on Jul 27, 2004, 09:20:59 AM
1 thing about the clip at Comic Con. Baseman said that Celtic get's tripped then his faceplate scratched. But in the trailer you can clearly see his mask is scratched  before getting tripped.
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Post by: nmlgh on Jul 27, 2004, 09:27:26 AM
baseman that sceen sounds lame.  Here is what a real predator would of done. CHOPPED THERE HEAD OFF FOR A TROPHY!!  not bitch smacking them around because its a easy way out of not showing blood i want some damn skinned humans!!
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Post by: Jack244 on Jul 27, 2004, 09:34:46 AM
Well the first Predator smacked Dutch around instead of just chopping his head off. That's about as real as you can get.
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Post by: nmlgh on Jul 27, 2004, 09:37:10 AM
For some reason i wish they had used marines instead of archaeologists.
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Post by: J on Jul 27, 2004, 09:37:15 AM
Baseman, thats wicked man! .    (I CAN NOT WAIT FOR THIS MOVIE TO COME OUT)
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Post by: XoGArchAngelAGen on Jul 27, 2004, 09:43:25 AM
Oh stop being such cry babies! Don't judge the bloody movie until you've actually seen it! I'll bet it's gonna be awesome even though it's rated PG-13!! Honestly!! One bloody rating doesn't mean the damn movie's gonna suck!! I think it's great that they made it PG-13!! Now I can have my party and go see it without fear!! Because it's only rated PG-13!! Not R!! PG-13!!!
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Post by: baseman on Jul 27, 2004, 09:51:04 AM
Alrighty.  So, as for the novel The Jerk is talking about, You are not talking about the comic book, right?  Jack224 both the tripping and the scratching of the happen in the clip.  Maybe he does get his face scratched before, either ways, they both occur in the same fight.  nmlgh, that was not the whole fighting scene.  As soon as the predator throws the Alien, it cut off (they did not finish showing the rest of the scene), so I don't know if the Alien got his head cut off as a trophy, or if the pred gets killed.  They wanted to keep us in suspense.  Oh and when the Cloaked Pred gets killed, after he gets impailed by the alien tail, his cloaking goes away.  The alien, who was hiding in the shadows, picks up the pred with his tail, and he comes out of the shadow.  Cetanu: It is the clip where you see the pred and the alien face to face in the trailer.  But you can see the freakin' alien tail strait through the pred.  After he does the head bite, the alien just whips the alien to the side of the room where the pred just lay motionless.  As for the pred collecting trophies from the humans, He really wanted to f**k up that Italian dude.  He looked like he had his mind set on him.  Maybe the Italian dude did something F--ked up that pissed off the celtic pred.   The JerK, the novel maybe someone close to what is in the movie, but i'm sure there is a lot of variation between the the movie and the novel.  Where did you get this novel anyways.  nmlgh, the pred was trying to get to this italian dude, he just told alexa and bishop "move b-tch, get out the way, get out the way" (this is from a Ludacris hip hop song here in the US for all my non US buddies).  A True pred doesn't deal with the small fry, he want's the big fish.  I'm sure a healthy 20-30 something year old guy is a better trophy than an old man who is already dying of something.
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Post by: Cetanu on Jul 27, 2004, 09:51:39 AM
Hey, give the Yautja God some credit too man, I've been sticking up for AvP all the same..lol, just kidding man, but...way to go for defending AvP and the rating! Anyone and everyone from here on out that says something positive, I know that your faith in AvP and Paul Anderson wont be misplaced, the scene described by baseman is pretty darn good proof of that. Also, all of you who have your own take on what the Pred should have done, what kind of fight is that? Cut off its head and that be it? Hell no, these Preds are teens, they're out to have some sadistic form of "fun", which includes physically torturing the Aliens by slamming them into walls then moving in for the final kill, this is the first hunt for these five  Preds people, they wanna make it memorable!
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Post by: beeko on Jul 27, 2004, 10:04:07 AM
alien,aliens & alien3 were all rated M in australia which im assuming is the same as PG13 in the states so still should be good
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Post by: yautja on Jul 27, 2004, 10:10:03 AM
BASEMAN I really appreciate that shot you told us about.That sounds so  good its  ridiculous.I love the movie even if it was PG I would see it. Thannnnnnnks a bunch for this wonderful info. August 13th 2004 My brother,my dad and I will see this wonderful movie. Reply whenever you see this comment please. Take care.
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Post by: Abdul on Jul 27, 2004, 10:11:39 AM
Guys, this movie seems to be a hard PG13. Look at manchurian candidate, it is only rated r for violence and some language. This film has five different reasons why it got the rating of PG13. For the criteria mentioned, i think we should calm down and just give this film a chance. It could have been R easily but fox made it PG13 cause they want more people to go to the film. This film has to be up there with excitement and plus if it is really 134 mins long, we will really get a good story and you will get a long movie for your dollar(or pound). Imma stay positive on this. Peace
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Post by: XoGArchAngelAGen on Jul 27, 2004, 10:16:05 AM
how do u know its gonna be 134 minutes?
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Post by: G-Dog on Jul 27, 2004, 11:50:11 AM
"The movie makes it clear that they make love at least once, but we don't see that happening because "Catwoman," a film that was born to be rated R, has been squeezed into the PG-13 category to rake in every last teenage dollar."  This quote was taken from a well known film critic... There is the company trying to make $$ out of an R rated but yet PG-13 tagged movie. In this day and age, an R-rated film can be squeezed into a PG-13 movie. Sort of what Sentinel was talking about, puching a PG-13 to the limit....AVP will not do bad at all.
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Post by: yautja on Jul 27, 2004, 11:50:14 AM
Thanks G-Dog You spoke from the heart about how you felt about this situation. I really appreciate how you said that. Fox now may think twice. Take care   :)     :)     :)     :)  
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Post by: G-Dog on Jul 27, 2004, 11:56:46 AM
Thanks a lot Cetanu and yautja. Your remarks mean a lot. I appreciate them all. I got something else for FOX once they reply, and I got something else if they don't. I got to see what Paul freaking Anderson has to say about this.....
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Post by: yautja on Jul 27, 2004, 11:57:31 AM
Cetanu thanks for the props and kind words you said. I appreciate it man. Take care   ;D     ;D     ;D     :)     :)  
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Post by: Shadow of FUS on Jul 27, 2004, 12:40:39 PM
Boo f**king hoo. Waaah,its not R!!! Take another look at the thing.Its got gore,its got violence and its got swearing! Everything that makes up an R rated film.Fox didnt dumb it down its just the MPAA has stretched their limits and Fox wants LOTS of people to see this so thats why its PG 13.
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Post by: baseman on Jul 27, 2004, 12:57:35 PM
Yautja--No problem w/ the info.  I know, like most of you, we probably go on all kind of search engines and websites to see some new material on the AVP movie.  That is why I drove 4 hours to Comic con to see.  It was awesome.  I went with my brother (he is 17, and i am 24).  He liked Resident Evil, I DID NOT. He is into that Zombie movie stuff, i'm not really into it.  He likes movies w/ gore, so do I.  Once we saw the Clip, we were both like DAMN, THAT"S TIGHT.  He was not really into either Aliens nor Predator.  I have been a fan since I was about 10 years old.  I have a bunch of Alien comics, Predator comics, AVP Video game, and of course the movies.  I'm not a fan of Paul Anderson, I don't mean to sound redundant, but we should give this movie a try.  I was not thrilled to hear he was directing it, but some other reasons (aside from directing) other movies like Resident Evil pretty much sucked: 1) Bad Acting:  So Michelle Rodriguez sucks at acting in all of her movies, including SWAT.  She tries to seem tough, but she just sounds like some stupid "MS. BADASS."  I'm not at all saying women (or womyn, however you would like to spell it)  Cannot play good heroins (heroes) . Ripley was KICK ASS.  Great actress!  Uma Thurman in Kill Bill.  Awesome.  Even the "Ramba" chick (Vasquez) was pretty cool.  Don't get me wrong, we don't need any Oscars for best actor (it wouldn't hurt), but make it believable please!  Hey, the beautiful and Oscar award winning Halle Berry is in Catwoman, and we've heard how those reviews have been going...anti-good!  2) Very Crappy special effects:  IN Resident Evil, that evil creation looked like a bad computer creation at times.  TOO MUCH CGI   In Alien 3, Which I still think had it's great moments (like the alien pulling up next to Ripley.  oHHH)  Also had times when you can tell it was a CGI alien.  Don't get me wrong, CGI is cool, when used in the appropriate light and time.  Predator and Aliens rocked because they used minimal CGI and mostly costumes (which is what Paul Anderson is trying to do here).  I know that the Alien tail in the fight scenes is CGI, BUT IT LOOKS REAL, I"VE SEEN IT.  It is Awesome! A Stupid Scene:  In Res. Evil, when Alice kicks the dog.  Too Fake, Too dumb. A cheap-man's matrix effect.  weak like seven days!  The HULK had too much CGI too.  It had it's cool moments, but then.  Spider-man 2 had CGI, but the Fight scenes were awesome.  Spidey needed more fight scenes and not story regurgitation from the first movie.  Weak story:  AVP cannot be a weak story.  Sure, I don't know why the heck it is set in antartica, but we know that hunting aliens is a Preds "coming of Age" ritual.  Also, some movies just seem too cheesy (C-twoman).    Okay.  So props to you with the positive attitudes.  I empathize with those of you who are wanting to destroy FOX and P.A. and as for G-Dog, that is a positive, mature, and pro-active way to have your voice heard. Props.  I'm going to wait until I see the movie before I right any letters.
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Post by: yautja on Jul 27, 2004, 01:13:08 PM
Thanks BASEMAN I appreciate it. I'm 16 and loved the alien and predator franchise since I was 6. You could say I'm a hardcore action/graphic violent movie person. I grew up with alien,predator and terminator and robocop. Everyone was in to power rangers and barbies I was in to predator and alien. You seem like a hardcore pred/alien fan. Any hardcore alien/pred fan is a good friend of mine thanks for the props thanks. Take Care    ;D     ;D     ;D     ;D     ;D     ;D  
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Post by: PREDATOR on Jul 27, 2004, 01:19:03 PM
OOOOOOO MY f**king GOD!!! eople take a chill pill OO the movie is rated pg-13 im now going to jump off a bulding because a movie i have been waghting for is rated pg-13. God people you havent seen the movie and just because its rated pg-13 you say it is going to scuk balls you hate PA and you say PA has turnded back on alien and Predator. I know this movie will rock, just because PA wont make this movie a total blood bath like some of his other movies means this movie will scuk. i know there will be enuf blood and gore 2 please the fans. Think about it maby rateing theis movie PG-13 he did something good for it. now even young viewers can come see this movie makeing more fans makeing more money and makeing more movies   8)   dont be fools all it is is a rateing and you instantly hate PA agan.   P.S. dont juge a book buy its cover.
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Post by: YautjaWarrior on Jul 27, 2004, 01:19:26 PM
So what if the movie is rated PG-13? There are GOOD PG-13 movies.
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Post by: beeko on Jul 27, 2004, 02:01:00 PM
we all know the rating now, lets all get over it and wait till we see the movie before we start bitchin about it im sure its going to be very good,the only thing which is pissing me off in sydney they have put the release date back from 9/11 till 30/11
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Post by: Aliminator on Jul 27, 2004, 02:01:55 PM
hey , who cares, we are still going to watch it, right?
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Post by: *bury on Jul 27, 2004, 02:27:57 PM
hey g-dog now i must go back to the rating thing about how the better of the two alien films did not have gore in it and Aliens would of been rated pg-13 if not for all the swearing and Alien was rated R becasue there wasnt a pg-13 back tehn. And stop complaining about PA his "not being a true fan"  thing, hes making the movie to make money and this isnt going to be some disney movie i mean u got gore in the last two alien films and they were garbage compared to the other two
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Post by: Melmac on Jul 27, 2004, 02:35:08 PM
The PG13 rating is BULLSHIT but, the movie rating system has been way off for many years.  Some movies received PG13 ratings but had R-rated content(JAWS got a PG rating.  Remember?).  Maybe that will be the case for AVP   8)    If not, we still have the unrated DVD to hope for.   ;D  
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Post by: uhhhhh on Jul 27, 2004, 02:39:37 PM
sweet, im not against this rating at all.  it even says, horror images, etc.  imho, all these really means is that there probably arent skinned bodies and graphic human bursts, which i dont really mind.    def waiting for uncut though  MOVE EVENT OF THE SUMMER...GARUANTEED!
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Post by: Melmac on Jul 27, 2004, 02:40:05 PM
Either way, If you are a REAL Alien and Predator fan,go see and support the movie.   8)  
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Post by: xx13 on Jul 27, 2004, 04:05:00 PM
PA   did the same thing to Mortal Kombat he made it and it got what the MPAA thinks it is a PG to MK.
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Post by: Pred on Jul 27, 2004, 04:11:10 PM
Does anyone notice the trend in Horror movies now? They all are rated pg-13. Blood for some, gore for others, and also language. Now the only thing rated R are dramas. Remeber back in the day, like in the movie Spaceballs (PG), they said f**k? That might be what's happening here. Who knows, this could be a great movie. Im 13 and im going.
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Post by: xx13 on Jul 27, 2004, 04:15:16 PM
Anyone notice that it says violence,language, horror images, slime and gore.   No   Blood.
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Post by: xx13 on Jul 27, 2004, 04:16:24 PM
Gore might just be for the aliens and Predz since its not human.
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Post by: ALIEN WARRIOR on Jul 27, 2004, 05:19:18 PM
i agree with Hell alien about what he said about paul anderson. i think paul anderson isnt a true alien and predator fan and if he was why the f**k did he direct a PG-13 movie and why didnt he stand up to fox and tell them this movie is rated R. i am a true alien and predator fan and i would be directing it for the fans not for the money. i want to see the gore like the rest of us on here does. lets hope its a good movie and if not they better not f**k up Alien 5 or Predator 3 like they did to AVP. we know both franchises and too bad none of us ever could get together and direct our own Alien vs Predator movie and our verison would be R with graphic violence and gore and strong language too.
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Post by: SaNdMaNxX on Jul 27, 2004, 05:32:26 PM
lol i hear that shit alien warrior...........bloods and guts ooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhh yeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaa
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Post by: ALIEN WARRIOR on Jul 27, 2004, 05:46:38 PM
glad you like my idea sandmanxx. hell i think everyone on here could made a better movie than paul anderson. we all know how both the alien and the predator kills lets face it the killing method of both species is very violent and graphic.
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Post by: SaNdMaNxX on Jul 27, 2004, 05:53:04 PM
true that im not much of  an alien fan im a pred fan but i gatta admit the aliens are very very koo and the movies are good both franchises are know to make their victims suffer. i really dont see why theres ppl saysing oh iz gannabe just like the R rated movies NO  pg13 has a limit witch sucks maybe alien and preds have alot of  violent scenes  but i dunno the pg13 dont look rite on the film
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Post by: Melmac on Jul 27, 2004, 06:01:37 PM
Now that I think about it, there was a hint in a few teasers and trailers that this movie might be PG13.  In one scene, one of the guys yells out a very famous line at one of the preds.  All us fans of the original Predator movie know this line as "ONE UGLY MOTHA-f**kA!"  Well in this movie it's changed to a less harsh "ONE UGLY SON OF A BITCH!"  If this was true to the series and rated R that famous line in Predator history would'nt have been changed.
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Post by: ALIEN WARRIOR on Jul 27, 2004, 06:03:20 PM
i agree with you about that and to me it still doesnt feel right of making AVP a pg-13. i doesnt fit the either the alien and predator and also what pisses me off is in my fangoria magazine #234 and when paul anderson said "what we're doing is pretty gross and its got all the traditional things you need in a Predator or an Alien movie: hanging dead bodies, chestbursting, decapitations, alien eggs, facehuggers-all  of that stuff" to me all of what he said is bullshit but hopefully we will see those in AVP.
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Post by: SaNdMaNxX on Jul 27, 2004, 06:08:06 PM
lol ur rite he said on another intrview that theres alot of grosume and unpleasenent ( sorry for the spelling) in the movie sooooooooooooooo lets wait 17 more days to find out   ;D  
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Post by: Baseman on Jul 27, 2004, 07:07:40 PM
OKay,  SO Jurassic Park. ONe of the Best movies ever, was rated PG13.  A guy got bit in HALF by a T-REX.  IN HALF! Two Pieces.  They showed it.  They didn't pan out, it was there. Raw and Uncooked.  Also, when the female scientist goes to try to start back the power, she finds Sam. L. Jackson's Characters arm.  ONly the arm.  It shows some blood (human blood) and arm tissue.  So, I don't really know why the PG13 seems that bad if they are willing to show that stuff in JP.  Lets see when the movie comes out if PA is Full of BS.  Hopefully he isn't making up all that stuff up he said in fangoria.  It's not smart because it would make him look stupid.  I'm sure he doesn't want to be referred to as a liar.  AVP not Christina Vs. Brittney.  Well, we will see.  The PRed vision of the alien was cool.
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Post by: Parasite X on Jul 27, 2004, 11:39:14 PM
God, its only a rating. An American rating not anywhere else. Also, I think that Paul Anderson would like it R but its really FOX's decision.
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Post by: Narmack on Jul 28, 2004, 12:51:28 AM
baseman, you rule, that sounds awesome what you told us, there's no way this can suck
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Post by: yautja on Jul 28, 2004, 10:13:54 AM
AVP should have the colonial marines from aliens. They put in hundreds of predators,aliens and humans. There should be a predalien queen a predalien king and lots of predator elders and warriors. Plus add in a hint of many many colonial marines. Watch them all fight each other and tear each other apart. Does that sound like an instant bloodbath or what.
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Post by: AvP_Predator_7 on Jul 28, 2004, 01:55:05 PM
this is bull shit! It should be R
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Post by: Angelion on Jul 29, 2004, 12:47:37 AM
hi guys ima big fann of alien and predator (mainly predator) um in the movie do the preds protect the humans from the aliens ? um sorry but like it shows in the scene were the main char says they not hunting u were in the middle of a war" and they been used as bait"does that mean the preds keep them alive just to try get an alien and kill it? i saw in the  pic with the pred holding that shamrican thing and i see the main char in the background. is it me or in both pred movies they dun kill women? or they only kill a human if they are armed? sorry guys so many things i dont know i just asking sorry about the supid questions
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Post by: USCM101 on Jul 29, 2004, 04:23:02 AM
Listen, I've seen a lot of PG-13 movies that are gory as hell. It's sad and a little scary that all of you need violence in a movie to enjoy it. Boo hoo, we won't see a Predator ripping out someone's skull. It's not like we haven't seen that happen in the other two Predator movies.   Don't get me wrong though, I do think the Alien/Predator movies need blood for it to be believable, and we will see a lot of blood in this movie, I guarantee it. Just maybe not as much as seen in the Predator movies (The alien movies weren't that gory anyways. At least, not the first two).  Oh, I almost forgot. Some of you have been bitching about the Preds getting owned by the Aliens, well, it's the way it should be. Aliens is my favorite out of the four Alien movies, but Cameron anally raped Ridley Scott's vision of the Alien because nearly indestructable. Remember how Ash was telling Ripley and co. how perfect the Alien was? How you couldn't kill it? Well, that's why the Preds are getting their asses kicked.
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Post by: true AvP fan on Jul 29, 2004, 04:47:06 AM
The predators are so much cooler, i mean with all of there insane weapons and gadgets, in a one on one match a predator should win 8 out of 10 times, but considering from just watching the trailer, there are like thousands of aliens, which poses a bit of a problem for predators, all you alien fans out there, don't get mad at me, it's just my opinion, and if you think an alien would beat a predator one on one, tell me how.
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Post by: [ One Bullet Left ) on Jul 29, 2004, 05:01:27 AM
Wow, where to start ? P.A. made a movie based off 1# of the most bloody arcade games of its time {Mortal Kombat}. We received a horrible Pg-13 movie with no blood & crappy acting, thanks for nothen! Now, to top it all off he's come back around to rune another movie I was so looking forward to {AVP}. By making a Pg-13 movie which looks like crappy acting so far to me, "The Trailers". Plus, to all the people who are saying that the alien movies are Pg-13 by today's standards are so full of !@#$ it's not even funny! I think you need to watch the movies again with your eyes open! If P.A. was such a {AVP} fanboy and not a fox puppet this movie would not be rated Pg-13. This is coming form a true hardcore fan of both series. Im sure P.A. dosen't have a tattoo of predator's self destruction box on the back of his arm, which I do! So who's the real fan now    ;D   I would like to boycott this movie, but thats just not possible I have to see this movie even if its going to Suck @$$! So I guess it boils down to P.A. winning in the end. Cause whether or not we like this watered down {AVP} film he still gets paid !   Ur Pissed Off Fan ! [ One Bullet Left )   & It's For P.A. !!!  j/k    ;D  
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Post by: nothingface on Jul 29, 2004, 05:16:06 AM
This really pisses me off because NEw Line did it right with FreddyVJason, afterall, all those movies were R so the VS. movie should be R and it was and it made almost 100 million in the states.  I hope AVP does well for future movies but I won't be seeing it multiple times.  Also, it really isn't Anderson's fault.  He made an R movie and FOX saw $ signs in its head.
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Post by: true AvP fan on Jul 29, 2004, 06:58:55 AM
So did G-Dog ever get a response back from fox on those questions, they were good questions.

whenever i think about what predator 1 would have been if they had decided to edit that and squeez a Pg-13 movie in, it makes me cringe.  I mean would would not have seen anything, not to mention we would not be here talking about this right now, because most of us would not have liked it.
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Post by: J on Jul 29, 2004, 07:03:41 AM
August 13 ...            ... AWW MAN!
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Post by: true AvP fan on Jul 29, 2004, 09:18:36 AM
i actually think that you are only allowed to use the F word one time in a pg-13 movie, i pretty sure because, in a couple of pg-13 movies, thats what they did.  Dodgeball, 1 time in the very last seen. I cant think of the other movies either.  But if all they are doing is saying 1 F word, and an ocassional damn, and shit, then really, how realistic is that going to look.  Oh look, he's cutting off his head, gosh darn, lets get the heck out of here.  Seriously, the amount of language that can be used in a pg-13 movie sucks, and there is one seen where you really need to use the F word, come on, all of yall no which one i mean.
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Post by: G-Dog on Jul 29, 2004, 10:58:21 AM
Brigebane, thanks for the 411. Didn't know that, I bet its kick ass! Still though, it would be nice if they made one, a HUGE one with all kinds of things know what I mean?

true AvP fan: No I haven't recieved a response from FOX yet. Usually, I bet they get all kinds of shit anyway so I am expecting it to take a few days. I am going to wait about a week, if nothing from them, I am taking leave and driving my ass to FOX studios.   Oh, ajustin667, you're full of crap to tell you the truth. You've waited so long for this movieI bet and you are doggin the shit out of this movie without seeing it first. I agree with you about the PG-13 and the company's way of making a profit, about Kevin Peter Hall and his acting as the pred, his moves etc. in the facts about Paul A. because I felt that way before, as I stated on my 1st post on this site, but to think that the Preds look stupid and the movie sucks and its ridiculous, and this and that......... kiss my ass, and to who ever said they've been waiting for this movie for ever now, and at the last minute are not going to see this film because of the PG-13, that shouldn't stop you numb nuts. Judge this once you've seen it.   oh and Angelion, to try to best answer your questions, ever read the AVP comics? well, there is a comic in which a female "teams up" with predators, and as you can see in the trailer, you know where the teaming up of Lex and the lead pred is going. As far as females getting killed is concerned, yeap, in 1 and 2, none of the females get killed, thats true, so this might be the same thing. After all, they keep comparing Lex to Ripley that should tell us something no? And in Pred 1 Dutch kicks the weapon out of the female's hands because she wasn't sport according to him. In Pred 2, in the high rise and the train, everyone that got killed had weapons of some sort, except for an old lady that we see in the pred vision with his hands about to grip her head. Hey...preds make mistakes too, especially when you're ass is getting shot at. So, to answer your question, yes preds kill only those armed and pose a threat to them. Any more questions we can help ya out with bro?
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Post by: Shadowpred on Jul 29, 2004, 11:52:28 AM
i knew about this since saturday and well i did think paul was going to fight for an r rating so people take out your torchess because we are going to haul some @$$ to quote the pred paul "NOW YOU WILL DIE!!"   cracle crackle crackle
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Post by: Brigebane on Jul 29, 2004, 01:13:37 PM
QuoteStill though, it would be nice if they made one, a HUGE one with all kinds of things know what I mean?  
Oh I know what you mean. A life sized hive and walk through, egg chambers, the queens hive.  Possibly the preds ships and tons of armatures animatronics and props, that would rock major    ;D  
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Post by: PT on Jul 29, 2004, 02:51:20 PM
Wow...... If this is PG13 than it's gonna be General in Quebec Canada. We have the most liberal rating system because our rating boards people aren't idiots! Don't get me wrong, I'd be the first to complain if it was otherwise.  Might still get a 14 years here just because, but I've seen so many movies here that are treated always with a notch under for the age thing.
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Post by: Eternal Alien on Jul 29, 2004, 04:16:40 PM
I agree on the hating pg13 movie rating,there is noone alive aside a cousin of mine who is devoted fans of Alien and meof course,the gore is not much needed ecxept for the chestbursting scences,the headbites,the tail attacks and the finding of human bodies skinned by Predators,now for me the most important thing is the tension on the characters,on how creepy the Aliens are and how claustrophobic the movie is,remember even though Aliens was less claustrophobic than the first it was more fast pased and still was a little scary as the first,and one thing that I really hate is the design of the resent Aliens,these creatures are suppoused to look biomechanical,that's why they are so,so...Alien,their silocone and carbon based structure,thier ability to stay alive in the vacumm of space.I don't know but Stan Winston did a better job on the aliens than Alec Gillis,only the Dog Alien looked something like the original and that is cuz H.R. Giger originally designed the creature for the 3rd movie and they altered just a bit.I'll see the movie only cuz of the story line,just because is set before ALIEN,and that's only why,but I'm not goin' to be opptimstic about the suspense or the fear of the first two.
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Post by: alienpredatorfan on Jul 30, 2004, 01:13:40 AM
:: :   ???  im a big fan of pauls films but what were they thinking PG13 that sucks ass now their cant be that much gore in the movie all the aliens and predator films were all R and they all had some much violence and gore im still going to go see it but im realy disapointed  lets just hope the ending is good
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Post by: true AvP fan on Jul 30, 2004, 05:11:50 AM
the more i read some of the stuff on this site, the better feeling i get about the movie.  If you read my earlier comments, there was definitely a feeling that this movie has no chance of being good, i mean with this monsters, anything less then a R rating just seemed so dumb.  But, and i still think, this movie cannot follow the same pattern of the old movies, because of the rating.  On the other hand, maybe this movie is not meant to be like the older ones, maybe PA feels that it is time for a new direction, with a new way of doing things, if thats the case, then perhaps this can be good, but if they are stuck on trying to live up to the older movies, and trying to follow there lead, then they already messed up, because those movies at no point in time could warrant a pg-13 rating, i'm starting to become more hopefull for this movie, who knows, i may love it.  For whatever reason i love the curse words in the other movies, they were placed in at the perfect times, and it just made everything more realistic.  So i hope they can squeeze in a good few of them. We'll just have to see.
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Post by: alienworshoper on Jul 30, 2004, 05:34:40 AM
they definately will sware.....just look at the rating...LANGUAGE. i have a feeling they will be pushing the language to the limit and it should be a pretty damn good movie.

Oh yea....think of this. is the first two aliens movies (the best) had no language in it they would of been pg-13. so i have no fear in how good this movie is gonna be. its gonna kick ass!
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Post by: femmefatale_1 on Jul 30, 2004, 07:05:31 AM
I am so pissed off at this.  It is not Paul's fault, producers want things done their way, so he has to follow, but man oh man, they are messing everything up.  I am still going to see this, but I'm hoping for an uncut DVD version already!  Stupid producers!   >:D  
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Post by: yautja on Jul 30, 2004, 07:27:58 AM
femmefatale I heard that there is gallons of predator and alien gore. The movie sounds very good hearing a clip from my man baseman. The movie is going to be like watching aliens and predator on amc channel. Not much cursing but loads of violence. I watched predator on amc before they showed everything but cut out the language. The movie is going to have madd potential. Take care   :)     :)  
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Post by: J on Jul 30, 2004, 12:07:23 PM
The films going to do fine, and you know why??  because everyones hung up over the gore and the ratings thing! Hear me out, this would be the last thing on OUR minds if we new the film was going to do badly, the trailer and the novel creates a grat image in our minds, had we had seen a bad trailer we'd all be knocking on FOX's door, with baseball bats and afew chainguns.   All of us are just eager to see this movie, thats all.   rreeeeeeeeeeeeeellllllaaaaaaaaaxxxxx folks, all is in hand.
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Post by: Eternal Alien on Jul 30, 2004, 03:19:37 PM
J is right for some parts,though you have to understand that Alien was a movie that disturbed some people,and then they grew to become fans of this genre and specially of how it gave us nightmares even to this date,us the new fans,and the first.Ripley may have been the first silver sceen heroine,but the real star and terror was the Alien,and Predator gave us that not all high tec rastas are from this world and just chill smokin a joint,they hunt you if you represent good game,and then they skin you and rip your spine out and mount your head in a trophy room.So J and others cut some slack to those in need of nightmares and hopelessnes,those movies go into history,and we the fans worship and get sleepless nights or days.
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Post by: avp fan on Jul 30, 2004, 04:02:26 PM
if u are all true fans then u will see it anyway.quit winnin just as long as preds and aliens are in it im happy.pg 13 isnt that bad..its better than pg or g sure blood and gore kicks ass but its the preds and aliens that count...CMON!
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Post by: Eternal Alien on Jul 30, 2004, 05:18:46 PM
True avp fan,nothing to argue there,but if you only get Predators killing Aliens when you understand why they hunt anything that can hunt them back,you just don't want to feel it,you want to see it,and of course Aliens who are parasites to begin with,you wanna see everyone getting killed including your girlfriend even if this maybe the first movie she maybe staring in.Look @ ALIEN RESURRECTION the poor Aliens where to pathetic to be killed by a guy on a wheelchair(No offense),that would've never happend on ALIENS,no,because they are "the perfect organism" although people get lucky and "shit happens",but overall it is at least a good excuse to see Aliens and Predators rippin' each other apart,hopefully their might be a good plot twist,that leads to ALIEN.
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Post by: Angelion on Jul 31, 2004, 01:41:49 AM
ok this is going to be a very stupid question but whats everyone getting worked up on? PG13?
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Post by: G-Dog on Jul 31, 2004, 04:02:06 AM
everyone is worked up on the rating because they think that AVP is not gong to be as good if it were an R-rated movie. That is the bottom line. Angelion, where are you from?
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Post by: femmefatale_1 on Jul 31, 2004, 04:50:38 AM
I think the movie is going to be great and the PG-13 rating will not matter, I have been waiting for an AVP movie to come out for more than 5 years (well maybe more like ten) so my hunger to see this movie will not change, it just would have been better if it followed suit with all of the alien and two predator movies with the R rating.  But I am not going to lose hope to see a director's cut of the movie. Are any of you guys going to watch all of the alien and predator movies before the movie comes out?
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Post by: G-Dog on Jul 31, 2004, 05:09:17 AM
yeap, i'm having an all Alien and Predator movie day on the 12th. From morning up to late in the day, 12 hours worth of alien and predator death.....then, I'm watching that behind the scenes look on Fox, after that, I'm going to see the midnight showing of AVP... Damn I can't wait!!! Oh yeah, I am gettign my movie ticket early in the morning for later that night.
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Post by: femmefatale_1 on Jul 31, 2004, 05:36:12 AM
I hear ya, I almost want to camp outside the theater and take a day off from work!
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Post by: G-Dog on Jul 31, 2004, 05:43:08 AM
sounds like a plan bro!! two weeks and countin"!
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Post by: femmefatale_1 on Jul 31, 2004, 05:50:03 AM
Still seems too long of a time to wait!
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Post by: J on Jul 31, 2004, 07:31:51 AM
Peeps, check out my version of the intro to the sequel of this movie, AVP 2   ALL Opinions will be noted so please do tell me where am going with this, if you like it or not.   8)  
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Post by: Sith on Jul 31, 2004, 08:53:47 AM
The PG-13 rating doesn't mean there's going to be no blood or violence. I've seen plenty of PG-13 movies with some rather impressive scenes of blood and gore, etc. In my experience, nowadays it isn't violence that gets you R ratings, it's sexual content.
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Post by: Variable on Jul 31, 2004, 12:13:29 PM
O shit. I missed the big news the rating. PG-13? We lost the battle. To tell you the truth I dont have anything positive to say right now.
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Post by: sharp on Jul 31, 2004, 05:58:47 PM
meh, oh well
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Post by: mehahahaha on Aug 01, 2004, 07:19:09 AM
you all suck if u dont like the god damned rating you should just be happy that he even made the freakin movie if you dont like it go to hell and just dont see the freakin movie  >< u all suck
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Post by: J on Aug 01, 2004, 07:41:29 AM
Well put there mehahahaha (damn!)   ;D  
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Post by: Eternal Alien on Aug 01, 2004, 09:46:53 AM
See? that's what you get for not cheerin'.
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Post by: K on Aug 01, 2004, 02:39:44 PM
The movie has been made, its better than having no movie at all. Personally in my books the first 2 alien movies were pg-13ish, only the chest bursting scenes were gory, and mild language. Still damn good movies, and alien resurrection has a 14a sticker on it (in canada) and it was a pretty a brutal movie in spots, when this one comes to theatres in canada it will be rated 14a, either that or the far extreme of pg in which case i would cry, so i havent lost hope for this movie yet.
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Post by: The Reverend on Aug 02, 2004, 07:05:05 AM
LOL thats why I LOVE CANADA, wOOt wOOt. anyways if it was rated R then I couldent go see it so THANK PA FOR THAT. but as for the first Alien movie you have to remember that those were done a while ago so the ratings were put alot higher than the ones today.
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Post by: J on Aug 02, 2004, 08:22:56 AM
Can't believe this section is still in talks with this rating thing.
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Post by: Eternal Alien on Aug 02, 2004, 09:52:40 AM
You're not the only one J,you're not the only one.
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Post by: Prealienjh on Aug 03, 2004, 06:05:59 AM
  >:D    PG-13! and I from england I don't want kids watching this film at the pictures. Fox must change it to a 15 or 18 rateing (R) no parents are going to let their kids watch it be the parents had seen Alien 1 2 3 4 and all of them are 18 rateing and Predator as well so FOX plz change it to at least 15 becuase on the banner of the film is not right for kids under 13. sorry Fox parents will not lets their kids watch this film.
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Post by: femmefatale_1 on Aug 03, 2004, 09:54:11 AM
I think it is safe to assume we will all see the movie no matter what the rating is (although it should have been Rated R) but we will bare with it.  What sucks about it not being rated R is the fact that the Predators usually skin humans and hang them upside down, or do crazy stuff, that they cannot show if it is PG-13, and ofcourse sexual stuff.  But there are some positives to it all.  I am just waiting until it comes out, I cannot wait! This will freakin' rock, especially for those of us who have read countless avp comics!
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Post by: Phantom on Aug 03, 2004, 10:02:28 AM
I think it's going to be a good movie and the rating is ok because I'm only 14 years old. And this is what people want to see a good thrilling movie that both teens and adults can watch.   :)  
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Post by: yautja on Aug 03, 2004, 03:13:33 PM
My friends like J said why is everyone still stressing about the rating. Its PG-13 there is nothing we can do unfortunately. The movie is still going to be madd good. Take care
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Post by: rob on Aug 03, 2004, 04:00:03 PM
if you see it an don't like it. it's simple. it sucked to begin with.  a solid story makes the movie not the rating.
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Post by: Hudsons 2 badass on Aug 03, 2004, 04:40:01 PM
i dont know if u guys are up on current events but i think the predators are gonna get their asses whipped   8)   - i readin it rght man look....vasquez - hudson maybe right..........ifreakin love it. lets jut see it ass fans. for get the rating. if its good its good , and if its bad Mr.Anderson dies
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Post by: opforce3 on Aug 03, 2004, 05:38:35 PM
its pg-13. now i can see it. im mad that it didnt get R but still, Indiana Jones and the temple of doom was excellent. no one can argue with that. and there are a ton of other good action movies that are pg-13. I think this is gonna be more action that suspense. Alien was suspense, Aliens was suspense-action. Alien 3 was Suspense(not great suspense, but...) and Ressurection was action-horror. Avp will be like a better version of Ressurection crossed with the mummy and predator. I am still looking forward and am seeing it on the 13th.    ;D  
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Post by: munkieismad on Aug 03, 2004, 06:09:36 PM
all i have to say about this whole matter is:  when i heard there was going to be an AvP movie, i was really really excited to put it lightly, then when i heard who was making it, i cried.  Then when i heard it was pg-13, i cried some more.  RIP AvP

wait one more comment:  ok, ridley scott, James cameron, two giants in the film industry, responsible for some of the greatest movis of all time, and then here comes Paul Anderson, responsible for Mortal Combat.  Anyone who thinks that this movie can be good or even begin to stack up to the originals, is sadly mistaken, and just plain blind.  thank you.
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Post by: Arashi-Kurai on Aug 03, 2004, 06:15:30 PM
I Robot-PG-13, The Bourne Supremacy-PG-13, Spiderman-2-PG-13, The Bourne Identity-PG-13, Minority Report-PG-13, The Italian Job-PG-13, The Scorpion King - PG-13, LORD OF THE RINGS-PG-13!!!         There was a time when a piece of work was judged by it's cinamatographic qualities and NOT by the amount of fake blood gushing from a gaping wound in someone's chest. Gone are the days when Alfred Hitchcock could hold the rapt attention of thousands of people and simultaneously make them all shiver and jump at the mere sound of a shower curtain being pulled back or a shadow entering through a creaking door. Or are they? I was in the theater watching M. Night Shyamalan's "Signs" (PG-13) when the entire room scream at seeing an alien's fingers come out from under a door and try to grab Mel Gibson. People screamed and jumped in their seats. AND THEY HADN'T EVEN SEEN THE ALIEN YET!!!      It truly amazes me that there are so many of you alleged AVP fans spouting negative commentary over the possible lack of violence, and bloodshed, and foul language that may or may not be present in AVP. What about the time when kids COULD go to the movies to enjoy a good monster flik? What about the folks (and there are millions of us out there) that love Sci-Fi movies but don't want to see all of that gore because they would like to take their kids and let them see two of the greatest movie monsters of all time duke it out on the big screen? I love Aliens and Predator, not because of violence or gore, but because it's darn good Sci-Fi!! The first two Aliens movies didn't even have that much gore in them they were rated R because of the language. The truth is that the studies are true. Violence, gore in movies and television, and graphic video games have so desensitized people that the idea a movie would not be gratuituously violent and gorey is something repulsive. You want graphic violence and gore? Turn on CNN for crying out loud! Take a look at what is happening around the world! With all of the violence and suffering going on in the world you people want to go "relax" by seeing more of it? Have you all lost your minds? Folks, it's called escapist entertainment because it's supposed to take you away from reality for a couple of hours!           True AVP fans (myself included) have been waiting for years for what was said would never happen. We've read the comics, the novels, etc. And we've waited. So, why do you want to bash Paul Anderson? If someone handed one of you a few million dollars to make this film but they told you it had to get a PG-13 rating, every last one of you would quit griping, take the money, and do the best job you possibly could to make it happen!! I know I would! So, just get some popcorn, sit back, and enjoy the film. Despite all the negative comments YOU KNOW YOU'LL BE IN AUDIENCE WATCHING IT ANYWAY!!! HHHHHHHHIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: munkieismad on Aug 03, 2004, 06:19:49 PM
Arashi-Kurai , i remind you of what you already know, the first alien was r rated, and had very little gore.  it relied on good suspense, and excellent cinemetography to scare the audience.  i have no doubt that there have been excellent pg-13 movies.  but w/ this kind of franchise, a little blood is kinda the theme, and much will be lost from it.

one more thing, the original alien and predator movies were not 'monster flicks' meant for young audiences, as this AvP is obviously trying to be.  they just want more money.
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Post by: Eternal Alien on Aug 03, 2004, 10:31:39 PM
Arashi-Kurai,I could have not put any better sense to what you have said already,but it won't matter what you say,some people can't understand that a good movie doesn't really need the gore,but some need a little reality to their fiction,personally I just don't want FOX screwing up the story line or the Alien's biology/morphology or the Predator's culture(what we've found out),they already messed up a little with their faces,and the Aliens,hmph! don't even get me started.I just wish I could get scared as to when I saw ALIEN,but commercialisation has a need for bucks and as I'm sure everyone knows about the original ALIEN toy fiasco,movie industries and toy companies are trying to come into an agreement,so with what that leaves us with? well SPECIAL DIRECTOR'S CUT EDITIONS of the movie and really ass kickin' toys,figures and models,also cool comics,I agree on certain levels with everyone,so what's the best thing to do? just watch the figgin' movie,cry if it's good and cry if it's ALIEN RESURRECTION(haha).Yes if it sucks we can kiss the franchise good bye and wait another lifetime before anyone dares to touch them,but hey that happened with ALIEN RESURRECTION and we have AVP,we can hope if that happens that at least FOX can make a tv series...ow!!...who threw that shoe?...Hey!!...owowowowowow.....
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Post by: Hudsons 2 badass on Aug 04, 2004, 08:02:08 AM
Man I cant wait until this goes down. Two things I always wondered : who wins between  the Aliens and the Predators and who woud win between  the Marines and the Merc's. I can only hope its great , with truly no winner but many C.O.W's .  Is it me or does the Aliens look more ferocious then ever and has the Predator been lifting weights? By the way the title of Ultmate Badass in Aliens goes to Pvt .Vasquez / Hudson (leaning towards Vasquez I mean she was ready to go back for the Apone and Dietrich w/ no hesitation)  , Predator - Billy (no question)
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Post by: Hudsons 2 badass on Aug 04, 2004, 08:07:31 AM
The preview to AVP  I saw in th theaters while waiting for the day after tomorrow( pure crap-o-la) showed a dude callin the predator  "  one ugly mother**** ". come on now thats Arnolds line dont do that. i mean damn thas disrespect  - he might as well say " If it bleeds , we can kill it"
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Post by: Fuzzy Kitten on Aug 04, 2004, 08:37:50 AM
i know that the amont of blood and gore dosnt detirmine how good a movie is. I love movies like star wars and spider man ant there is no blood at all in those movies but the theme and concept of an alien vs predator movie is people and aliens getting torn apart limb by limb. ARASHI KURAI dont tell me that i would sell out the fans of AVP. i dont think you have ever read an AVP comic. films can stilol be good without blood and gore but its not right to take these two movies and turn them into a movie for the whole family. seriouly the last movie came out in 97 not many 13 year old kids even know a thing about AVP.
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Post by: Eternal Alien on Aug 04, 2004, 08:44:26 AM
Hudson2badass,where da hell have you been hidin'? no offense,but did you wake up from a 1986 coma? Dude get up to date with the movies bro.As for the throw down between both species,well it could be a tie or of course the Aliens win,or the same situation that happened in the pyramid(see more AVP trailers) could repeat itself,hence the insisting annoyance of Weyland corp.(before Weyland Yutani)on obtaining an Alien specimen.Buy the Alien Quadriology & both Predator movies.OW!!!...stop throwing at me.
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Post by: Hudsons 2 badass on Aug 04, 2004, 10:53:37 AM
Eternal Alien , I've seen every installment i the Alien series and both Preadator 1&2. But I own Aliens and Predator  becuse thse are my favorites from the franchises. .. The trailer isnt the moview just a taste, yess "they' have the numbers but we dont know was gonna happen. I say the only way we can be sure is nuke the planet from orbit!!!!

About this PG-13 crap ----- according to the title it's Alien vs Predator even though we are there the base of the killin is gonna be  alien on alien right? not like he other movies ... so green blood / long heads / heads w/ dreads will b ripped off but non human dismemberment does'nt usually get the "R"  true there are some humans in the movie and u want them to die horrible deaths but the real fight isnt w/ us we're  just pawns used by both teams. How can the feel of the movie be R if the primary fight is wit them. its 2004 we wont be scared because we know its fiction( not like were watchin TTCM , i swear after that one ppl in the theater wanted them lights turned on quick ... coulda swore i heard a chainsaw on my way home) We're on an express elevator to hell - going down!  Hey Eternal what u doin @ that other table?.........Guess the new lieutenant's too good to eat with the rest of us grunts.
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Post by: some aussie on Aug 04, 2004, 11:26:31 PM
Why does everybody want this to be so gory as the last Alien and pred movies. They were the worst bloody ones.    ???