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Title: Was Vickers going to leave Shaw for dead?
Post by: RidgeTop on Nov 08, 2021, 09:51:01 AM


This is a scene I always wondered about.

When the bridge crew realizes that Shaw is still alive, Vickers says "We're not stopping anything Shaw, we're going home" which I took to imply:

"Get your ass on board because we are leaving."

But after Shaw appeals further, Vickers says to Janeck "Let's go, get this ship moving."

Did anyone take that to mean Vickers decided in that moment to leave Shaw behind?

Title: Re: Was Vickers going to leave Shaw for dead?
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Nov 08, 2021, 11:12:18 AM
I just think it's Prometheus' script not fully thinking that stuff through to the logical conclusions, that's not what happens so why bother to check if it makes any sense, kind of carefree attitude.
Title: Re: Was Vickers going to leave Shaw for dead?
Post by: Evanus on Nov 08, 2021, 03:48:38 PM
I think Vickers was ready to leave Shaw behind, or didn't particularly care either way.
Title: Re: Was Vickers going to leave Shaw for dead?
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Nov 08, 2021, 05:38:10 PM
And yet runs contrary to Vicker's reaction to killing Holloway, it's just, not thought through at all unfortunately.
Title: Re: Was Vickers going to leave Shaw for dead?
Post by: Huggs on Nov 11, 2021, 11:59:19 PM
Vickers would've done whatever was necessary in order to live.
Title: Re: Was Vickers going to leave Shaw for dead?
Post by: SiL on Nov 12, 2021, 12:17:39 AM
I think by that point in the story she was absolutely willing to let the self righteous bitch die, yes.
Title: Re: Was Vickers going to leave Shaw for dead?
Post by: Wweyland on Nov 13, 2021, 09:17:32 PM
Arent 3 Prometheus crew members still stranded on the planet as well? They take off during the zombie attack in a vehicle and are never mentioned again.
The script has worse issues than Alien 3.
Title: Re: Was Vickers going to leave Shaw for dead?
Post by: [cancerblack] on Nov 13, 2021, 11:56:55 PM
Quote from: Wweyland on Nov 13, 2021, 09:17:32 PM
Arent 3 Prometheus crew members still stranded on the planet as well? They take off during the zombie attack in a vehicle and are never mentioned again.
The script has worse issues than Alien 3.

Presumably dolphin-boy got em eventually.
Title: Re: Was Vickers going to leave Shaw for dead?
Post by: windebieste on Nov 14, 2021, 01:24:50 AM
The vehicle used to kill Fifield is the RT01. Later in the movie, the very same vehicle is used by Weyland to reach the pyramid. So at some point, those crew members returned and are aboard the Prometheus when it is destroyed.

Besides, why is it so important to know what happens to them?

I guess you'll be asking for complete obituaries at the end of Star Wars to account for all the people who died on Alderaan. lol

-Windebieste.
Title: Re: Was Vickers going to leave Shaw for dead?
Post by: Wweyland on Nov 14, 2021, 07:07:11 PM
Quote from: windebieste on Nov 14, 2021, 01:24:50 AM
The vehicle used to kill Fifield is the RT01. Later in the movie, the very same vehicle is used by Weyland to reach the pyramid. So at some point, those crew members returned and are aboard the Prometheus when it is destroyed.

Besides, why is it so important to know what happens to them?

I guess you'll be asking for complete obituaries at the end of Star Wars to account for all the people who died on Alderaan. lol

-Windebieste.
Sorry, I must not be in the correct forum?
It raises some interesting questions, like why Janek did not warn them to evacuate later?
Title: Re: Was Vickers going to leave Shaw for dead?
Post by: The Eighth Passenger on Nov 15, 2021, 05:43:05 PM
There is a clause in their contract which specifically states, that in the event the captain goes full kamikaze, they are to remain onboard, under penalty of total forfeiture of shares.

No money.
Title: Re: Was Vickers going to leave Shaw for dead?
Post by: RidgeTop on Nov 16, 2021, 10:06:26 AM
I just figured they were the security team that was taken out by the Engineer after the encounter.
Title: Re: Was Vickers going to leave Shaw for dead?
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Nov 17, 2021, 12:53:39 PM
Quote from: Wweyland on Nov 13, 2021, 09:17:32 PM
Arent 3 Prometheus crew members still stranded on the planet as well? They take off during the zombie attack in a vehicle and are never mentioned again.
The script has worse issues than Alien 3.

Editing problems.
Title: Re: Was Vickers going to leave Shaw for dead?
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Nov 17, 2021, 12:58:56 PM
Because here's your driver.
Title: Re: Was Vickers going to leave Shaw for dead?
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Nov 18, 2021, 03:57:29 AM
According to the making off, Fifield's attack was originaly at the same time Weyland and the team were getting into the vehicles. Later an editor suggested to Scott that the attack should be after the cesarean sequence as it was necessary "for something to happen after that". I bet it was Shaw who run over the bastard with the apc.  :laugh:

Spoiler
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Title: Re: Was Vickers going to leave Shaw for dead?
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Nov 18, 2021, 02:52:08 PM
https://youtu.be/3vf-uWFJiiw

Just another thing to add to the list of this film's editing being a complete mess.
Title: Re: Was Vickers going to leave Shaw for dead?
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Nov 18, 2021, 04:15:23 PM
Thanks. I had not seen that video.
Title: Re: Was Vickers going to leave Shaw for dead?
Post by: Kradan on Nov 18, 2021, 05:50:49 PM
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Nov 18, 2021, 02:52:08 PM
https://youtu.be/3vf-uWFJiiw

Just another thing to add to the list of this film's editing being a complete mess.

wow
Title: Re: Was Vickers going to leave Shaw for dead?
Post by: [cancerblack] on Nov 18, 2021, 08:13:52 PM
I was kinda cheesed when after watching that trailer thousands of times, the film ended up cut differently.
Title: Re: Was Vickers going to leave Shaw for dead?
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Nov 19, 2021, 08:06:56 PM
Yeah, and while the following it is trivial and nothing important to the plot, I swear there is a guy that we never saw die due to the messy edition of the theatrical cut. I could be wrong though.  :laugh: