Do you think Prey will get a blu Ray release?
Disney+'s record up until now suggests we wont. I do want one but I'm not expecting we'll get one
Yeah sadly I doubt we'll get one. Which sucks, but it won't be a surprise unfortunately.
This is the reason why I refuse to get streaming and support this shitty way of putting out a film. I'll get my friend to pirate it for me
It will not be released on dvd at all? Or only not on blu-ray?
Quote from: 343 on Aug 05, 2022, 02:05:01 PMIt will not be released on dvd at all? Or only not on blu-ray?
I'd imagine both
Man, that sucks. :-(
I thought i've heard it would be released on dvd (4K even).
We'll see. Maybe a avpg-member knows for sure.
I'm expecting it to stay streaming only, which is unfortunate.
One can only hope.
Quote from: 343 on Aug 05, 2022, 02:05:01 PMIt will not be released on dvd at all? Or only not on blu-ray?
Disneys statements they made last year span has been they wont release movies physical except rare exceptions, hence mandalorian and now obiwan kenobi arent on DVD or Bluray. A very limited run of mandalorian season 1 was released but they are super rare.
Yep, doing the same: boycotting.
Quote from: 343 on Aug 05, 2022, 02:08:34 PMI thought i've heard it would be released on dvd (4K even).
https://insidethemagic.net/2020/08/no-more-disney-4k-blu-ray-tm1/
Theres more articles about this but long story short: no 4K releases from disney.
After Disney sees how well it'll do along with everything going on. At Warner Discovery, I could see them changing their tune potentially to drop it on Blu.
Yeah, there was all that talk about Disney not bothering with Blu-Rays anymore although there was a report last year that said they were readying the 4K versions of Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection but nothing ever came from that. I do hope they release something. I'd like to listen to a commentary and watch some behind-the-scenes stuff from the film.
Quote from: Billiken on Aug 05, 2022, 01:25:36 PMDo you think Prey will get a blu Ray release?
The only Disney exclusive that has a physical Media release that I know of is Get Back and that's only because Apple wanted one. However, the fact that all the other Predator movies have a physical release may mean we get one but they'll want to use it to drive subscribers on the service for a while, I'm sure, so don't hold your breath.
This is technically a hulu release though, and Disney seems to release their hulu shows on physical media more often.
So there is some hope.
PS this is why I hate streaming and all this digital only crap, btw. People don't seem to understand how important physical releases are. Hopefully there's never a world wide disaster someday that takes out the Internet permanently. Lol Think how much culture and entertainment will be lost because everything was "digital only".
One shouldn't have to come at the expense of the other.
Quote from: BountyHunter on Aug 06, 2022, 08:15:41 AMThink how much culture and entertainment will be lost because everything was "digital only".
Dont need a disaster for that, tons of games and movies that already is lost and cant get anymore. :)
Dont know about the Disney statement at all. But I hope we will get the physical release.
This is a Hulu film that was released on Disney Plus in certain countries that have Star built into Disney Plus. So its Hulu's decision?
I don't know who handles these decisions, exactly. Either 20th Century Studios or all the way up the line at Disney, I'd imagine. For what it's worth, I don't think a single other 20th Century Studios movie that released direct to Hulu has ever gotten a home release before.
To be honest, the only way I can potentially imagine this movie breaking that pattern is in a complete series box set at some point down the line, but even that sounds unlikely to me right now unfortunately which really sucks.
Dunno about a "Hulu original" movie like Prey since it didn't get a theatrical release, but all of Disney's other mainline movies that got theatrical releases have all gotten physical releases.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 07, 2022, 01:29:10 PMI don't know who handles these decisions, exactly. Either 20th Century Studios or all the way up the line at Disney, I'd imagine. For what it's worth, I don't think a single other 20th Century Studios movie that released direct to Hulu has ever gotten a home release before.
To be honest, the only way I can potentially imagine this movie breaking that pattern is in a complete series box set at some point down the line, but even that sounds unlikely to me right now unfortunately which really sucks.
No other direct-to-Hulu 20th Century movie was nearly as high-profile as a Predator one either, let alone as popular and praised.
So Hulu has released some of its original content on Blu-Ray such as "The Handmaid's Tale" seasons so at least there's precedent. But this is the first major movie that's been released on the platform so only time will tell.
I really do hope we get a Blu-ray or DVD release sometime in the future. Having a physical copy of the film not only provides interesting "behind-the-scenes" videos or director commentary, it is also an insurance against the possibility that, god forbid, if Hulu (or Disney+ internationally) one day shuts down, for whatever reason.
I mean, what if some future Disney management decides that Hulu or Disney+ isn't generating enough revenue (or suffered too much losses) and shut those streaming plaforms down? That may sound absurd or very unlikely now, but you can never be sure about the future. Look at "Batgirl" as an example. No one could predict that the new Warner Bros management will cancel that movie outright when the shooting was already done. But it happened.
So without any physical copy available to consumers, movies like "Prey" could simply disappear into some black hole, never to appear again. Sure, I suppose Disney themselves can release a physical copy at that point or some other studio and their streaming platform can buy "Prey" off Disney. But, that's a big "if". I feel a lot safer with a physical copy I can keep at home now.
Not sure about that
https://www.dvdsreleases.com/movie/prey-dvd-release-date/
Quote from: David on Sep 06, 2022, 09:16:52 AMNot sure about that
https://www.dvdsreleases.com/movie/prey-dvd-release-date/
I'm sure I've said this before, but that's not a reliable source. For starters it mentions Amazon Prime and iTunes, but it's a Disney+/Hulu exclusive. Secondly it mentions a theatrical release, but it's streaming exclusive.
I would put no cachet in anything mentioned on that site. Sorry.
The problem is it's streamed with the highest possible resolution and HDR coding ( Dolby vision etc), which surprised me to be honest.
Usually the Blue Ray is a way to get something better, but in this case there is nothing better ( although a disc will still be of higher quality IMO).
Saying that......If you've been around as long as some of us have, there will 100% be a box set release, it's pretty much a given. We just have to wait a year or two maybe. It's easy money, since all of us will buy the box set just to own Prey and the other discs already exist.
I'm less concerned with the quality of the Blu Ray than I am with if Disney decides to sell Hulu off, shutter 20th Century Studios completely, or in some other way muck with their library -- that Prey will eventually vanish and there will be no way to actually watch it.
Quote from: exorcissy72 on Sep 09, 2022, 05:43:01 PMI'm less concerned with the quality of the Blu Ray than I am with if Disney decides to sell Hulu off, shutter 20th Century Studios completely, or in some other way muck with their library -- that Prey will eventually vanish and there will be no way to actually watch it.
Unlikely to ever happen, but worst case you sail the stormy sea's. People are ripping Blue Ray's still at high quality.
I'm big on physical media especially with movies I like. It would be a real shame if we didn't get a bluray release.
I'm really hoping they do some kinda Predator bluray set with all 5 films. Maybe that can be a way to get it?
Real missed opportunity if AVP Galaxy did not ask in their interview.
The only point of asking would be to see if Dan even has any information, but it's not up to him if this film gets a physical media release. I'm sure he would want one just as much as any of us, but a lot of streaming service and studios just aren't into that medium anymore. I don't have any numbers to back this up, but perhaps sales in physical media have been on a steep decline that they can't justify spending money to make blu-rays. Also, let's not forget that we don't have all the details of that agreement that prevented HBO Max from having streaming rights to PREY. Not only were Disney not allowed to show it in theaters, but perhaps they're not allowed to put it on physical media either. Maybe that part even comes from Hulu, a "We'll stream it for you, but we have exclusive rights to it for x-amount of time before you do anything with it." Who knows. Look at Netflix. They have one of the most popular shows right now in STRANGER THINGS, and they stopped making discs for it after the second season, and its popularity is bigger than ever. It all comes down to numbers, I think. "Our show is HUGE and people are signing up like crazy to watch it!" Why release it on physical media when a streamer's goal is to acquire and keep subs?
Anyway, I desperately want a blu-ray/4K release of PREY. I just don't know if we'll see on in the next couple of years or at all.
Just give it a Blu-ray release, I will happily import it if it is necessary.
I guess a realistic position to take is -
What movie can't you buy on Blu Ray...
Here's a link to an article written back in January when news broke about Warner Bros. phasing out physical media and what it potentially means for everywhere else.
I maintain we may not see PREY on blu-ray any time soon if at all.
https://www.fortressofsolitude.co.za/studios-phasing-out-blu-rays/
Yeah sadly I'm not expecting to every see a physical release. And WB's recent handling of a lot of their original streaming content is only underscoring why physical media is ultimately better than streaming.
If people can't get a physical release... then they will find other ways... ;D ;)
Why would they not want that *BONUS CASH*? Like I said before, I think the best bet would be another series collection bluray set. You can repackage & resell the previous films with the incising physical version of PREY.
Because it's more lucrative to take $10 every month than get $20 once.
Quote from: SiL on Sep 15, 2022, 07:49:35 PMBecause it's more lucrative to take $10 every month than get $20 once.
Hmmmm... yeah you have a good point.
Oh well...
https://c.tenor.com/PwkHNWcHm_IAAAAC/hehe-pirate.gif
Like I said, they wont ever release it on bluray, its stream only like with star wars and the new hellraiser movie is also confirmed as stream only.
Hmmmm....
https://twitter.com/kendrickpejoro/status/1582526162206478341
:o intrigue!
If it contributes to the conversation at all, I was just at a local Walmart and they have DVD copies of the 'Pam and Tommy' series which was produced for HULU.
Quote from: SiL on Sep 15, 2022, 07:49:35 PMBecause it's more lucrative to take $10 every month than get $20 once.
Blu-ray/DVD release and streaming doesn't have to be mutually exclusive...
I'm aware.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 20, 2022, 07:47:31 AMHmmmm....
https://twitter.com/kendrickpejoro/status/1582526162206478341
A friend just shared this tweet with me:
https://twitter.com/kendrickpejoro/status/1591995142571175936?s=46&t=nLrQwxdTYQZmqO4rcuzm-w
I looked him up on LinkedIn. This was in his job description (quote below). I'm calling it. Blu Ray/DVD release inbound.
Quote• Develop Home Entertainment bonus content, providing creative input and shepherding projects through all stages of production on New Release titles such as Widows, Bohemian Rhapsody, Can You Ever Forgive Me?, The Favourite, The Kid Who Would Be King, Breakthrough, and Tolkien.
• Collaborate with menu producers to create motion and static menus for Home Entertainment physical and digital releases.
• Supervise production from inception by providing art direction, notes on rough cuts, and trafficking projects for approval.
• Oversee delivery of all digital assets to ensure digital-only exclusives are implemented correctly and QC'd properly along with the rest of the pre-existing assets to streaming services such as Apple iTunes Store and Movies Anywhere.
• Project lead on Fox International Properties titles, such as Dragon Ball Super: Broly and Rate Your Date.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kendrick-pejoro?original_referer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F
f**k yes.
Quote from: Engineer on Nov 15, 2022, 01:44:36 AMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 20, 2022, 07:47:31 AMHmmmm....
https://twitter.com/kendrickpejoro/status/1582526162206478341
A friend just shared this tweet with me:
https://twitter.com/kendrickpejoro/status/1591995142571175936?s=46&t=nLrQwxdTYQZmqO4rcuzm-w
I looked him up on LinkedIn. This was in his job description (quote below). I'm calling it. Blu Ray/DVD release inbound.
Quote• Develop Home Entertainment bonus content, providing creative input and shepherding projects through all stages of production on New Release titles such as Widows, Bohemian Rhapsody, Can You Ever Forgive Me?, The Favourite, The Kid Who Would Be King, Breakthrough, and Tolkien.
• Collaborate with menu producers to create motion and static menus for Home Entertainment physical and digital releases.
• Supervise production from inception by providing art direction, notes on rough cuts, and trafficking projects for approval.
• Oversee delivery of all digital assets to ensure digital-only exclusives are implemented correctly and QC'd properly along with the rest of the pre-existing assets to streaming services such as Apple iTunes Store and Movies Anywhere.
• Project lead on Fox International Properties titles, such as Dragon Ball Super: Broly and Rate Your Date.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kendrick-pejoro?original_referer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F
Well, this is promising. I would happily be wrong if we end up getting a physical release for this.
keep hope alive
Please please please let it happen
So, maybe he wasn't referring to a blu-ray release at all. Maybe it was just this: https://twitter.com/kendrickpejoro/status/1593348860016877569?s=46&t=9l0NLWG8JHVXqjUMw_vPvg (https://twitter.com/kendrickpejoro/status/1593348860016877569?s=46&t=9l0NLWG8JHVXqjUMw_vPvg)
Nah, I have my doubts there. His previous tweets were specific to Prey, while the DLC update doesn't relate to Prey. His work credentials seem to focus primarily around home video releases rather than video games too. I think this tweet is a coincidence in terms of timing. I still think a blu ray release is on the way...
You may be right, and while he may specialize in the home media, I have seen past tweets in which he mentions he and a creative team have had hands involved in the inclusion of Predator and Alien content in games and other mediums. Especially the approval of artwork for book and comic covers. Time will tell I suppose. I really do hope a blu-ray release is on the horizon.
Quote from: Engineer on Nov 17, 2022, 09:51:36 PMNah, I have my doubts there. His previous tweets were specific to Prey, while the DLC update doesn't relate to Prey. His work credentials seem to focus primarily around home video releases rather than video games too. I think this tweet is a coincidence in terms of timing. I still think a blu ray release is on the way...
Yeah, he's kind of a brand manager for Alien/Predator. His work isn't just home releases, he manages the books, comics and etc.
I have all predator movies on my shelf, even Black's abomination (AVP-R only on DVD), but I don't really care for Prey to be released that way. If it will be released then I may buy it if it will be cheap enough, if not - whatever...
You seriously paid money for a copy of The Predator but aren't fussed about Prey? Sort your life out homie.
The Predator (apart of being completely idiotic) was at least funny at times, Ive bought it cheap 3 years after theatrical release. Prey was boring, unengaging, cheap looking and I didnt care for any of the characters. I may buy it too eventually, but I can live without it.
That being said, I really hate the fact that streaming movies are not released on Blu-ray (Greyhound is the one I would really like to put on my shelf).
Well at least I can agree with you on the second point, but I had a lot more fun with Prey than I did with The Predator.
As did the vast majority based on aggregators and polls. I'll be disappointed if we never get this on our shelves. It deserves it far more than The Predator or the AvPs, but I'm just glad we got it in the first place.
I'd be down for a blu-ray release even if it was a limited thing. With the shakeup of Disney leadership maybe that might influence a physical release? Probably grasping at straws but I'd like to have a physical copy.
Though as to home media releases, The Predator is the only one I have digital. Which is kind of amusing given Hulu had the Predator series but The Predator and now currently has none of them without another service barring Prey at least here.
If there had been a plan for a blu-ray release who knows what will happen now that Bob Iger has returned. I know a lot people liked him, but we'll have to wait and see what shakeups are about to happen with positions, streaming, projects, etc.
I'm hoping that anything far along into production of merch and all is still a go (again, assuming if a Prey blu-ray was in the works).
There is a rumor going around that Hocus Pocus 2, released as a Disney+ exclusive, is going to be coming out on Blu-ray/4K. And didn't some recent Pixar movies released as Disney+ exclusives get physical releases as well?
Here's hoping!
Quote from: RoguePred1987 on Nov 22, 2022, 12:43:34 AMThere is a rumor going around that Hocus Pocus 2, released as a Disney+ exclusive, is going to be coming out on Blu-ray/4K. And didn't some recent Pixar movies released as Disney+ exclusives get physical releases as well?
Some movies/shows will get a release, like Obi-wan recently has and a few others. Unfortunately, Obi-wan is being released DVD only with no bonus features, possibly to protect the draw of the higher quality streaming content and because the sad state of the home video market is that DVD stil strangely outsells Blu-ray and I'm not really sure where 4K sales are at right now.
Get Back got a Blu-ray release but that probably has more to do with Apple Corp wanting a physical copy out in the world, and the Star Wars content on DVD may be a contractual thing as well.
Lots of factors play into it. Home video is no longer the cash cow it once was, sadly. I'll never understand, though, why a MOD model like Warner Archive has, or licensing it out to a boutique studio like Shout! Factory or Arrow Video, isn't just a go-to with streamers for the die-hard collector market, though.
https://twitter.com/kendrickpejoro/status/1595563718225502208?s=46&t=L4XFBE5qJIDBcWArkcUGRA
He's still teasing something "Prey" related. Definitely wasn't the "Hunting Grounds" update...
Could be a NECA Naru and Sarii figure. That's just an assumption based on the specific hashtag of the characters. 🤷🏽
Quote from: Engineer on Nov 24, 2022, 02:04:05 PMhttps://twitter.com/kendrickpejoro/status/1595563718225502208?s=46&t=L4XFBE5qJIDBcWArkcUGRA
He's still teasing something "Prey" related. Definitely wasn't the "Hunting Grounds" update...
its definitely possible, could be anything at this point.
Quote from: Dr. Von Predator on Nov 24, 2022, 09:03:26 PMCould be a NECA Naru and Sarii figure. That's just an assumption based on the specific hashtag of the characters. 🤷🏽
Quote from: Engineer on Nov 24, 2022, 02:04:05 PMhttps://twitter.com/kendrickpejoro/status/1595563718225502208?s=46&t=L4XFBE5qJIDBcWArkcUGRA
He's still teasing something "Prey" related. Definitely wasn't the "Hunting Grounds" update...
I think he's tweeting those tags because they are in the movie. Simple as that. Not too much to dig in to there.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Nov 25, 2022, 10:38:59 PMQuote from: Dr. Von Predator on Nov 24, 2022, 09:03:26 PMCould be a NECA Naru and Sarii figure. That's just an assumption based on the specific hashtag of the characters. 🤷🏽
Quote from: Engineer on Nov 24, 2022, 02:04:05 PMhttps://twitter.com/kendrickpejoro/status/1595563718225502208?s=46&t=L4XFBE5qJIDBcWArkcUGRA
He's still teasing something "Prey" related. Definitely wasn't the "Hunting Grounds" update...
I think he's tweeting those tags because they are in the movie. Simple as that. Not too much to dig in to there.
Agreed
So, I have a friend who co-wrote a Hulu exclusive (don't want to name in case this information isn't supposed to be public knowledge, and don't want them to get in trouble for it) but I inquired about a blu-ray for it. While he's in the dark when it comes to how they handle that department, he does know the deal for their exclusive was no physical media or theatrical release. However long it remains a Hulu exclusive remains to be seen. Could be for a limited time, could be permanent. With that said, I'm thinking this could be the same for PREY. In shorter words: No blu-ray/4K release for the foreseeable future.
Quote from: Dr. Von Predator on Dec 13, 2022, 10:43:05 PMSo, I have a friend who co-wrote a Hulu exclusive (don't want to name in case this information isn't supposed to be public knowledge, and don't want them to get in trouble for it) but I inquired about a blu-ray for it. While he's in the dark when it comes to how they handle that department, he does know the deal for their exclusive was no physical media or theatrical release. However long it remains a Hulu exclusive remains to be seen. Could be for a limited time, could be permanent. With that said, I'm thinking this could be the same for PREY. In shorter words: No blu-ray/4K release for the foreseeable future.
Well that just sucks, doesn't it?
Quote from: Cougerboy on Dec 15, 2022, 01:48:17 AMQuote from: Dr. Von Predator on Dec 13, 2022, 10:43:05 PMSo, I have a friend who co-wrote a Hulu exclusive (don't want to name in case this information isn't supposed to be public knowledge, and don't want them to get in trouble for it) but I inquired about a blu-ray for it. While he's in the dark when it comes to how they handle that department, he does know the deal for their exclusive was no physical media or theatrical release. However long it remains a Hulu exclusive remains to be seen. Could be for a limited time, could be permanent. With that said, I'm thinking this could be the same for PREY. In shorter words: No blu-ray/4K release for the foreseeable future.
Well that just sucks, doesn't it?
Prey streams on Disney plus in some countries aswell but I think disney owns hulu any so this probably means nothing. Isnt hulu free with a Disney membership aswell?
It's just been announced that Paramount is releasing seasons 1 & 2 of The Great, a HULU exclusive series, on Blu-ray. Looking it up, it seems that Paramount is a distributor for the series so that's why they have the rights to release Blu-rays for it. But again, another HULU exclusive getting a physical release. There's always a chance.
Quote from: bobcunk on Dec 26, 2022, 03:15:33 AMQuote from: Cougerboy on Dec 15, 2022, 01:48:17 AMQuote from: Dr. Von Predator on Dec 13, 2022, 10:43:05 PMSo, I have a friend who co-wrote a Hulu exclusive (don't want to name in case this information isn't supposed to be public knowledge, and don't want them to get in trouble for it) but I inquired about a blu-ray for it. While he's in the dark when it comes to how they handle that department, he does know the deal for their exclusive was no physical media or theatrical release. However long it remains a Hulu exclusive remains to be seen. Could be for a limited time, could be permanent. With that said, I'm thinking this could be the same for PREY. In shorter words: No blu-ray/4K release for the foreseeable future.
Well that just sucks, doesn't it?
Prey streams on Disney plus in some countries aswell but I think disney owns hulu any so this probably means nothing. Isnt hulu free with a Disney membership aswell?
So perhaps it comes down to how long this Hulu exclusive deal last. Is it meant to last forever or only for a set duration? Who knows, with the changes in Disney upper management and the return of Bob Iger and firing of Bob Chapek, they might re-consider this streaming-only approach...hopefully.
I just think all this Prey teasing that Ken guy on Twitter posts is more about other stuff. Cavity Colors teased Prey merch, so that could be one of them. Basically, not sure we get a blu-ray for a very long while, which is an absolute bummer because, as much as I'm in the minority of enjoying The Predator for what it was, I would HATE for that to be the last blu-ray in the franchise.
Quote from: Cougerboy on Dec 28, 2022, 09:25:01 AMQuote from: bobcunk on Dec 26, 2022, 03:15:33 AMQuote from: Cougerboy on Dec 15, 2022, 01:48:17 AMQuote from: Dr. Von Predator on Dec 13, 2022, 10:43:05 PMSo, I have a friend who co-wrote a Hulu exclusive (don't want to name in case this information isn't supposed to be public knowledge, and don't want them to get in trouble for it) but I inquired about a blu-ray for it. While he's in the dark when it comes to how they handle that department, he does know the deal for their exclusive was no physical media or theatrical release. However long it remains a Hulu exclusive remains to be seen. Could be for a limited time, could be permanent. With that said, I'm thinking this could be the same for PREY. In shorter words: No blu-ray/4K release for the foreseeable future.
Well that just sucks, doesn't it?
Prey streams on Disney plus in some countries aswell but I think disney owns hulu any so this probably means nothing. Isnt hulu free with a Disney membership aswell?
So perhaps it comes down to how long this Hulu exclusive deal last. Is it meant to last forever or only for a set duration? Who knows, with the changes in Disney upper management and the return of Bob Iger and firing of Bob Chapek, they might re-consider this streaming-only approach...hopefully.
doe the majority of the general public care? If its only collectors and hard core movie buffs then Disney may not think it would be profitable do do physical releases anymore, look at Cds, most people don't use them because it can be easier to use an mp3 player. I think alot of people prefer streaming because you can have accses to 1000s if movies and not have to lug around those old huge cd albums. I don't really think about it anymore and try to just go along with whatever.
Quote from: bobcunk on Jan 12, 2023, 12:23:03 AMQuote from: Cougerboy on Dec 28, 2022, 09:25:01 AMQuote from: bobcunk on Dec 26, 2022, 03:15:33 AMQuote from: Cougerboy on Dec 15, 2022, 01:48:17 AMQuote from: Dr. Von Predator on Dec 13, 2022, 10:43:05 PMSo, I have a friend who co-wrote a Hulu exclusive (don't want to name in case this information isn't supposed to be public knowledge, and don't want them to get in trouble for it) but I inquired about a blu-ray for it. While he's in the dark when it comes to how they handle that department, he does know the deal for their exclusive was no physical media or theatrical release. However long it remains a Hulu exclusive remains to be seen. Could be for a limited time, could be permanent. With that said, I'm thinking this could be the same for PREY. In shorter words: No blu-ray/4K release for the foreseeable future.
Well that just sucks, doesn't it?
Prey streams on Disney plus in some countries aswell but I think disney owns hulu any so this probably means nothing. Isnt hulu free with a Disney membership aswell?
So perhaps it comes down to how long this Hulu exclusive deal last. Is it meant to last forever or only for a set duration? Who knows, with the changes in Disney upper management and the return of Bob Iger and firing of Bob Chapek, they might re-consider this streaming-only approach...hopefully.
doe the majority of the general public care? If its only collectors and hard core movie buffs then Disney may not think it would be profitable do do physical releases anymore, look at Cds, most people don't use them because it can be easier to use an mp3 player. I think alot of people prefer streaming because you can have accses to 1000s if movies and not have to lug around those old huge cd albums. I don't really think about it anymore and try to just go along with whatever.
Where is the evidence that says the general public does not care? Predator Blu-ray and DVDs are still sold, if no one buys them the "hard copy" way, why would they still offer blue-ray and DVD of those movies?
Where is the evidence that no one will buy DVD or blu-rays just because there is now streaming? That's just your own opinion with nothing to back that up.
Physical media releases have been falling for almost two decades now (https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/08/the-death-of-the-dvd-why-sales-dropped-more-than-86percent-in-13-years.html). DVDs peaked in 2005 and Blu Ray peaked in 2013. The streaming market is worth ten times the physical release market, and the average physical release buyer is a 25-39 year old who grew up with it and keeps building their collection.
The rate of decline slowed during the pandemic, and as more streaming platforms come out I imagine it's slow further, if not reverse.
But it's absolutely true to say the old physical media market is long, long dead.
No I was asking if people don't care, I like having the bluray.
The average buyer is a collector and the market went from 2 billion discs a year to a few hundred million, so no, the average audience doesn't care.
Sadly true, despite the diminished quality.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 12, 2023, 06:27:55 AMPhysical media releases have been falling for almost two decades now (https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/08/the-death-of-the-dvd-why-sales-dropped-more-than-86percent-in-13-years.html). DVDs peaked in 2005 and Blu Ray peaked in 2013. The streaming market is worth ten times the physical release market, and the average physical release buyer is a 25-39 year old who grew up with it and keeps building their collection.
The rate of decline slowed during the pandemic, and as more streaming platforms come out I imagine it's slow further, if not reverse.
But it's absolutely true to say the old physical media market is long, long dead.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 12, 2023, 06:27:55 AMPhysical media releases have been falling for almost two decades now (https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/08/the-death-of-the-dvd-why-sales-dropped-more-than-86percent-in-13-years.html). DVDs peaked in 2005 and Blu Ray peaked in 2013. The streaming market is worth ten times the physical release market, and the average physical release buyer is a 25-39 year old who grew up with it and keeps building their collection.
The rate of decline slowed during the pandemic, and as more streaming platforms come out I imagine it's slow further, if not reverse.
But it's absolutely true to say the old physical media market is long, long dead.
Then why do other studios still bother with Blu-ray and DVD release then? You sound like you keep making excuses for Hulu exclusive streaming release.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 12, 2023, 08:10:40 PMThe average buyer is a collector and the market went from 2 billion discs a year to a few hundred million, so no, the average audience doesn't care.
Where is the source for your stat?
Was the dwindling and almost disappearance of physical disc's from department store shelves not enough of a clue?
Quote from: Cougerboy on Jan 21, 2023, 01:52:40 AMWhere is the source for your stat?
This link answers both of your questions:
https://www.wired.com/story/why-do-dvds-exist/amp
Companies still make physical media because there's still a market. But it's a small market compared to what it once was so it's not surprising some companies are not bothering.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 21, 2023, 08:28:48 PMQuote from: Cougerboy on Jan 21, 2023, 01:52:40 AMWhere is the source for your stat?
This link answers both of your questions:
https://www.wired.com/story/why-do-dvds-exist/amp
Companies still make physical media because there's still a market. But it's a small market compared to what it once was so it's not surprising some companies are not bothering.
As long as they can make an extra buck (revenue outstrip production/development cost), film studios will keep making physical discs. Small market...depends, one can argue Disney is forgoing extra revenue by an exclusive streaming strategy.
It costs money to manufacture discs. If they don't sell, they lose money.
Yes, there is a market. But they might decide the cost of entering into it isn't worth the potential gains. I don't know, ask them.
Disney and Mill Creek have signed a physical media distribution deal for DVD/BLU-RAY. The deal covers tv and film, and 20th Television and 20th Century Studios are specifically mentioned among other Disney-owned companies.
https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20230130005094/en/Alliance-Entertainment%E2%80%99s-Mill-Creek-Entertainment-Announces-New-Home-Entertainment-Licensing-Agreement-with-The-Walt-Disney-Company (https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20230130005094/en/Alliance-Entertainment%E2%80%99s-Mill-Creek-Entertainment-Announces-New-Home-Entertainment-Licensing-Agreement-with-The-Walt-Disney-Company)
Quote from: RoguePred1987 on Jan 30, 2023, 08:03:41 PMDisney and Mill Creek have signed a physical media distribution deal for DVD/BLU-RAY. The deal covers tv and film, and 20th Television and 20th Century Studios are specifically mentioned among other Disney-owned companies.
https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20230130005094/en/Alliance-Entertainment%E2%80%99s-Mill-Creek-Entertainment-Announces-New-Home-Entertainment-Licensing-Agreement-with-The-Walt-Disney-Company (https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20230130005094/en/Alliance-Entertainment%E2%80%99s-Mill-Creek-Entertainment-Announces-New-Home-Entertainment-Licensing-Agreement-with-The-Walt-Disney-Company)
Yeah, well... https://twitter.com/thediscfather/status/1620151519978082304?s=46&t=MkUd5-HeQUS3GNLr0nlEsQ (https://twitter.com/thediscfather/status/1620151519978082304?s=46&t=MkUd5-HeQUS3GNLr0nlEsQ)
And thats why I wont ever pay hulu to watch prey or any of the new upcoming alien movies or tv series: release it on bluray and I give my money. Else no thanks, I dont care if they dont make more movies, streaming is anyways the death of movies to me.
Are these just someone in Sri Lanka burning an MP4 to a Blu-Ray, or has this actually been released in Asia?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/144747716566?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=DIFifSm8QEK&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
That's 100% someone just burning copies to disc.
Or at least pretending to.
Slipcover and no Blu-ray case. Yeah, totally bootleg.
Quote from: bobcunk on Jan 12, 2023, 12:23:03 AMQuote from: Cougerboy on Dec 28, 2022, 09:25:01 AMQuote from: bobcunk on Dec 26, 2022, 03:15:33 AMQuote from: Cougerboy on Dec 15, 2022, 01:48:17 AMQuote from: Dr. Von Predator on Dec 13, 2022, 10:43:05 PMSo, I have a friend who co-wrote a Hulu exclusive (don't want to name in case this information isn't supposed to be public knowledge, and don't want them to get in trouble for it) but I inquired about a blu-ray for it. While he's in the dark when it comes to how they handle that department, he does know the deal for their exclusive was no physical media or theatrical release. However long it remains a Hulu exclusive remains to be seen. Could be for a limited time, could be permanent. With that said, I'm thinking this could be the same for PREY. In shorter words: No blu-ray/4K release for the foreseeable future.
Well that just sucks, doesn't it?
Prey streams on Disney plus in some countries aswell but I think disney owns hulu any so this probably means nothing. Isnt hulu free with a Disney membership aswell?
So perhaps it comes down to how long this Hulu exclusive deal last. Is it meant to last forever or only for a set duration? Who knows, with the changes in Disney upper management and the return of Bob Iger and firing of Bob Chapek, they might re-consider this streaming-only approach...hopefully.
doe the majority of the general public care? If its only collectors and hard core movie buffs then Disney may not think it would be profitable do do physical releases anymore, look at Cds, most people don't use them because it can be easier to use an mp3 player. I think alot of people prefer streaming because you can have accses to 1000s if movies and not have to lug around those old huge cd albums. I don't really think about it anymore and try to just go along with whatever.
But then look at Vinyl....
If it were about mass numbers nothing would ever get made ( collectables, Hobby items etc)
There will always be a core amount of people that either want the thing or they want the thing because the quality is better. There will just be less of them and perhaps they might move to steel book or collectable versions only with a higher price.
Likely it'll just come down to certain blockbusters or franchises as opposed to "every" movie getting a disc, like how it used to be.
can i ask a question: can you stream hulu on a pc? can i stream it on ubuntu linux? do i need a special program installed to do so? do i need a special device decoder to make run on a tv or pc? because if i can run it on a pc then what prevents me from using something like simplescreenrecorder to illegally record the movie?
how does streaming prevent piracy and if it doesnt what is the advantage of it over public showing and physical media?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SimpleScreenRecorder
Streaming services work on PC, but they block you from taking screencaps or recording your screen. There are other means of pirating off of them, of course, hence pirated copies existing.
As for why the studios would rather make you stream as opposed to purchase a physical copy, because then they can hit you with a monthly fee as opposed to you just buying the disc on time.
ty
https://twitter.com/TheDiscFather/status/1630235709125820417
Weirdly only a DVD release, but I wonder if this might be a sign of Prey getting select regional home releases like this?
I wouldn't be surprised. The repeated suggestion that if we want it, we have to ask for it definitely implies nothings locked down, but I'm still thinking we'll get some kind of announcement this year. It hasn't even been a year since release, even though it feels like forever.
Disney CEO says they are going to reevaluate the home release market. Could be good news for a Prey blu ray.
https://twitter.com/ultrahdbluray/status/1634158374827831297?s=46&t=_UkEryu2c2UmLOQcQ5K4SA
very nice to see somebody waking up a lil bit
Glad to see that! If it does happen, just hope it doesn't just mean bare-bones releases, though.
I guess we'll find out, eventually. We're still not a year post release yet, which is insane because it feels like its been ages.
https://twitter.com/TheDiscFather/status/1681359181478260736
This account can be.... dubious, sometimes, in its sources. So I'm not gonna put any real stock in anything. But it's been right before, and I figured it was worth posting 'cause sooner or later this was going to wind up in this thread anyways.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jul 18, 2023, 06:57:20 PMhttps://twitter.com/TheDiscFather/status/1681359181478260736
This account can be.... dubious, sometimes, in its sources. So I'm not gonna put any real stock in anything. But it's been right before, and I figured it was worth posting 'cause sooner or later this was going to wind up in this thread anyways.
FINALLY!
...hopefully
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jul 18, 2023, 06:57:20 PMhttps://twitter.com/TheDiscFather/status/1681359181478260736
This account can be.... dubious, sometimes, in its sources. So I'm not gonna put any real stock in anything. But it's been right before, and I figured it was worth posting 'cause sooner or later this was going to wind up in this thread anyways.
I almost shared this but couldn't tell if it was official anywhere. Steve Asbell, President of 20CS follows the account, so maybe there is something there.
I've been anticipating a physical release since the beginning. I bet this is true! But I'll wait to celebrate until it's confirmed via an official announcement lol
https://twitter.com/billbria/status/1681400892699049985
This is a media reporter's account now...
"Finally today, we're hearing from multiple industry sources now that 20th Century Studios is preparing Dan Trachtenberg's successful Predator prequel Prey (2022) for release on Blu-ray and... even better... physical 4K Ultra HD! The film has, up to now, been available only via streaming on Hulu here in the States (and via Star on Disney+ internationally). We've been quietly tracking this one for a few months, but we've heard it now from multiple independent sources, so we're confident that it's legit. As soon as we have firmer or official details, rest assured we'll let you know. But it would certainly be very welcome news indeed."
Source: https://thedigitalbits.com/columns/my-two-cents/071823-1000
Quote from: SisterJill on Jul 18, 2023, 11:58:11 PM"Finally today, we're hearing from multiple industry sources now that 20th Century Studios is preparing Dan Trachtenberg's successful Predator prequel Prey (2022) for release on Blu-ray and... even better... physical 4K Ultra HD! The film has, up to now, been available only via streaming on Hulu here in the States (and via Star on Disney+ internationally). We've been quietly tracking this one for a few months, but we've heard it now from multiple independent sources, so we're confident that it's legit. As soon as we have firmer or official details, rest assured we'll let you know. But it would certainly be very welcome news indeed."
Source: https://thedigitalbits.com/columns/my-two-cents/071823-1000
Yes....please let that be true...
Canceling Hulu as we speak lol
Finally! What is the usual time between the official announcement and the actual release?
Quote from: David on Jul 19, 2023, 05:20:08 PMFinally! What is the usual time between the official announcement and the actual release?
Need an official announcement first!
Thats right.
Yeah, I'm not sure about this one. On Twitter TheDiscFather mentions PREY is set for 4k/blu-ray release but he's been known to just throw stuff out there and watches to see what sticks. Until there's an official announcement from 20th Century or Disney, I'm not going to get my hopes up.
Please please please please please please
If this is the case I'd imagine they'd time an announcement around the Emmys for the most exposure possible.
Thank the gods! Need a physical copy for my collection and the obvious idea of fighting against not owning your own copy cuz Hulu can stream it but can pull it down anytime.
I really hope this is true. I'm dying to see it again but I'm not signing up to Disney+ for one movie.
Would be neat having a physical copy.
Give me 4k steelbook and my happiness would be complete.
That's a day one preorder purchase for me
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Finally!! Good god I hope we get behind the scenes features and interviews. I love me a good behind the scenes. This will be a day one purchase. As well as the Hot Toys release.
Please, please, please let this rumor be true. Can't wait to get a physical copy of Prey.
This film will look insane on 4K HD. Here's hoping.
Good news . Only physical is real !
About time. I can then cancel Disney+.
I'm all over this, if true I can't wait!!
https://7news.com.au/business/retail/disney-to-stop-releasing-dvds-and-blu-ray-discs-in-major-change-for-australian-customers--c-11414857
Well, I guess you can kiss the hope of a PREY blu-ray goodbye, because if Disney is already ending physical media in Australia and New Zealand, you bet they're already planning to end it completely.
No we're just a small expensive market.
Quote from: Dr. Von Predator on Jul 30, 2023, 09:21:53 PMhttps://7news.com.au/business/retail/disney-to-stop-releasing-dvds-and-blu-ray-discs-in-major-change-for-australian-customers--c-11414857
Well, I guess you can kiss the hope of a PREY blu-ray goodbye, because if Disney is already ending physical media in Australia and New Zealand, you bet they're already planning to end it completely.
Not entirely true. Yeah, AUS is getting cut out. But there were talks a few months back of pushing physical media sales more in other countries because they've found it brings in more profit than streaming.
https://www.mediaplaynews.com/says-ceo-bob-iger-less-is-more-diversity-of-content-distribution-including-home-entertainment-new-disney-focus/
Of course, we have to see how this all plays out first.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Jul 31, 2023, 01:52:38 AMQuote from: Dr. Von Predator on Jul 30, 2023, 09:21:53 PMhttps://7news.com.au/business/retail/disney-to-stop-releasing-dvds-and-blu-ray-discs-in-major-change-for-australian-customers--c-11414857
Well, I guess you can kiss the hope of a PREY blu-ray goodbye, because if Disney is already ending physical media in Australia and New Zealand, you bet they're already planning to end it completely.
Not entirely true. Yeah, AUS is getting cut out. But there were talks a few months back of pushing physical media sales more in other countries because they've found it brings in more profit than streaming.
https://www.mediaplaynews.com/says-ceo-bob-iger-less-is-more-diversity-of-content-distribution-including-home-entertainment-new-disney-focus/
Of course, we have to see how this all plays out first.
You're right. Just feels a bit hopeless considering all that's going on with Disney since Iger's return. The hardest part is just waiting for some confirmation. Almost a year in and nothing. At this point I'd accept a "Sorry, not interested in releasing it on physical media." At least this way we don't have spend our days wondering.
https://twitter.com/discussingfilm/status/1692173794725749054
https://twitter.com/steveasbell/status/1692179073127293072
QuoteBONUS FEATURES
Making of Prey: Step behind the scenes of Prey as the cast and crew explore the genesis of the project, how they gave authenticity to the story, the intense physical training the cast endured, and the effects work that brought the iconic Predator back to the screen.
Prey FYC Panel With Cast & Crew: Go deeper into Prey with a lively panel discussion featuring director Dan Trachtenberg, actor Amber Midthunder, producer Jhane Myers, director of photography Jeff Cutter, film editor Angela M. Catanzaro and creature effects designer Alec Gillis.
Alternative Opening Scene: Check out a scene that didn't make the cut with commentary by Dan Trachtenberg.
Deleted Scene: Big Warrior, Little Warrior: Check out a scene that didn't make the cut with commentary by Dan Trachtenberg.
Deleted Scene: Treetop Chase (pre-vis): Check out a scene that didn't make the cut with commentary by Dan Trachtenberg.
Audio Commentary: Play Movie with Audio Commentary by Dan Trachtenberg, Amber Midthunder, Jeff Cutter & Angela M. Catanzaro.
[...]
PRODUCT SPECIFICATIONS
Street Date – 4K UHD: October 3, 2023
Product SKUs – Physical: 4K UHD, Blu-ray and DVD
Feature Run Time – Approx. 100 minutes
Rating – U.S. Rated R for strong bloody violence
Aspect Ratio – Physical: 2.39:1
Disc Size – 4K UHD: 66GB, Blu-ray: 50GB, DVD: 8.5GB
U.S. Audio – 4K UHD: English 7.1.4 Dolby Atmos, English AD 2.0 Dolby Digital, French 5.1 Dolby Digital, Spanish 5.1 Dolby Digital, Blu-ray: English 7.1.DTS-HDMA, English AD 2.0 Dolby Digital, French 5.1 Dolby Digital, Spanish 5.1 Dolby Digital, DVD: English 5.1 Dolby, English AD 2.0 Dolby, French 5.1 Dolby, Spanish 5.1 Dolby
U.S. Subtitles – 4K UHD: English SDH, French, Spanish, Blu-ray: English SDH, French, Spanish, DVD: English SDH, French, Spanish
https://thedigitalbits.com/columns/my-two-cents/081723-0700
CONFIRMED! God I can't wait to get my hands on this. Excited to see a few deleted scenes and get a commentary track, too. Odd that the Comanche dub doesn't seem to be included though.
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Better late than never! ;D I'm really surprised it's finally, actually happening. I'm kinda back and forth as to whether the amount of special features is more than I figured there'd be for something like this, or par for the course when it comes to Disney releases these days. But the fact that there are any at all I'm going to take as a good thing.
Definitely going to grab this day one......so long as it doesn't turn out to be US-only or something. :P
I saw Bill Hunt on twitter teasing aliens in 4k, maybe alien 3 and resurrection are next
Hopefully the behind-the-scenes is a nice juicy one! The Predator films have always got a little shafted when it comes to that. Definitely looking forward to hearing the commentary though!
Quote from: Xenalien on Aug 17, 2023, 03:10:05 PMI saw Bill Hunt on twitter teasing aliens in 4k, maybe alien 3 and resurrection are next
Oh shit!
https://twitter.com/BillHuntBits/status/1692180392114282503
I just hope the colors don't get botched like in T2's 4K...
EDIT: Oh, The Digital Bits article has been updated to include the Comanche dub.
F&CK YEAH!! :) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D DAY ONE PURCHASE! Right next to my Predator 4 movie pack 4K UHD set.
And next month, Neca will release the Feral Predator figure.
Very great to have it available on physical media to include in the Predator series movie collection, can I ask is this a home media release for just America or does it include International territories?
Oh shit!!! Buying this ASAP! Give me behind the scenes features and commentary! Yes!!!
Finally! Maybe this will help the sequel as well.
https://twitter.com/DannyTRS/status/1692207155628191890
Noooice.
It better get a UK release too!
Happy day!
Gonna import, prefer US and AU disc art.
The Artwork looks great as well! Alternate opening, whats that about?
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Aug 17, 2023, 05:02:48 PMNoooice.
It better get a UK release too!
Hopefully we'll get news of other Region releases soon.
Quote from: Wweyland on Aug 17, 2023, 05:48:03 PMThe Artwork looks great as well! Alternate opening, whats that about?
I've got a shooting draft of the script (that I need to clean up and release) and it's the same opening with the eagle, but different dialogue. Think Dan mentioned this was re-recorded to replace some information from later cuts.
Panic attack!
f**k yes! Can't wait to actually own this fantastic film!
I'm surprised and excited that this is happening. Also disappointed that they're not doing it right. Well, maybe right isn't the word to use, but they're not utilising the 4K format to it's best. The Blu-ray is 50gb, while the UHD is 66gb. I know Disney doesn't like spending the extra money on triple layer discs, but I'd still prefer to see it released in the best quality, especially since the film has really good cinematography.
So awesome to see this officially happening. I'll be keeping my eye on Best Buy to pre-order that snazzy Steelbook.
Would also be cool if we got a new box set with all the films.
FINALLY!!!
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I haven't been this excited to buy a blu-ray since...I can't remember when I was this happy before about buying a physical media.
I guess this proves all the naysayers wrong about never seeing a blu-ray.
The art cover looks fantastic and I'm curious about the deleted scenes, no matter how big or small they are. Can't wait to get my grubby hands on it.
4KUHD purchase for me! Can't wait to see and hear this in 4K Dolby Atmos at home.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 17, 2023, 03:12:05 PMHopefully the behind-the-scenes is a nice juicy one! The Predator films have always got a little shafted when it comes to that. Definitely looking forward to hearing the commentary though!
I'm hoping the two hours of bonus features that's mentioned doesn't include the commentary, because if it does the making-if's gonna be pretty lightweight.
"2 hours including", makes me think it's only 20 minutes of extras.
And if one is the same opening but with a different VO, I feel like the only substance is going to be the commentary and the fact it's physical media.
I am so excited for this!
Quote from: SiL on Aug 18, 2023, 06:39:26 AM"2 hours including", makes me think it's only 20 minutes of extras.
And if one is the same opening but with a different VO, I feel like the only substance is going to be the commentary and the fact it's physical media.
You are just bummed out that your prediction of no blu-ray turned out to be wrong. Weren't you so confident there will no blu-ray for Prey? Don't be a sore loser. Admit you were in error.
Quote from: Cougerboy on Aug 18, 2023, 08:03:52 AMQuote from: SiL on Aug 18, 2023, 06:39:26 AM"2 hours including", makes me think it's only 20 minutes of extras.
And if one is the same opening but with a different VO, I feel like the only substance is going to be the commentary and the fact it's physical media.
You are just bummed out that your prediction of no blu-ray turned out to be wrong. Weren't you so confident there will no blu-ray for Prey? Don't be a sore loser. Admit you were in error.
Never said it wouldn't get a physical release, no.
I am so salty that this is getting a release on physical media! >:(
Quote from: SiL on Aug 18, 2023, 08:16:12 AMQuote from: Cougerboy on Aug 18, 2023, 08:03:52 AMQuote from: SiL on Aug 18, 2023, 06:39:26 AM"2 hours including", makes me think it's only 20 minutes of extras.
And if one is the same opening but with a different VO, I feel like the only substance is going to be the commentary and the fact it's physical media.
You are just bummed out that your prediction of no blu-ray turned out to be wrong. Weren't you so confident there will no blu-ray for Prey? Don't be a sore loser. Admit you were in error.
Never said it wouldn't get a physical release, no.
Oh sure...you were the one who was so insistent that a Blu-ray release for Prey isn't profitable for Disney. I guess Disney has thrown their business sense out the window with this release? ;)
I'm not expecting anything super significant from the making-of featurette here. Mostly gone are the days of super in-depth documentaries for first run physical releases, unfortunately. :-\ Even Alien: Covenant, which had a doc that ran a pretty decent length of an hour or so, was mostly unsubstantial compared to all of the Charles de Lauzirika docs that it followed on from.
The deleted/alternate scenes and the commentary (and, of course, the main selling point: the fact that you no longer need to use Hulu and can watch the film at a stable resolution without relying on monthly fees and the whims of your potentially shitty internet) are likely going to be the core of this release. And that is more than enough to warrant an immediate purchase from me, though I do of course genuinely miss the days of getting hours worth of extensive making-ofs on the disc as well.
The FYC Panel could potentially be nice as well, depending on the level of quality of the questions that the filmmakers are asked.
Looking forward to this. Especially the less compressed look would be a vast improvement.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Aug 18, 2023, 09:09:12 AMI am so salty that this is getting a release on physical media! >:(
why?
Quote from: Cougerboy on Aug 18, 2023, 09:32:21 AMOh sure...you were the one who was so insistent that a Blu-ray release for Prey isn't profitable for Disney. I guess Disney has thrown their business sense out the window with this release? ;)
Never said that either.
You're tilting at windmills. Please stop.
Although for what it's worth, Disney has officially announced they're stopping physical media releases in my country. So I probably couldn't even get this anyway.
You can import it like I will do.
Yeah not with the current exchange rates.
VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Quote from: Cougerboy on Aug 18, 2023, 08:03:52 AMQuote from: SiL on Aug 18, 2023, 06:39:26 AM"2 hours including", makes me think it's only 20 minutes of extras.
And if one is the same opening but with a different VO, I feel like the only substance is going to be the commentary and the fact it's physical media.
You are just bummed out that your prediction of no blu-ray turned out to be wrong. Weren't you so confident there will no blu-ray for Prey? Don't be a sore loser. Admit you were in error.
Let's refrain from the personal snipes, please.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 18, 2023, 12:11:52 PMQuote from: Cougerboy on Aug 18, 2023, 09:32:21 AMOh sure...you were the one who was so insistent that a Blu-ray release for Prey isn't profitable for Disney. I guess Disney has thrown their business sense out the window with this release? ;)
Never said that either.
You're tilting at windmills. Please stop.
Although for what it's worth, Disney has officially announced they're stopping physical media releases in my country. So I probably couldn't even get this anyway.
Yeah sure...
Amazon is your friend to get a copy now I guess. The same probably applies to me.
Quote from: Cougerboy on Aug 19, 2023, 12:55:38 AMYeah sure...
You're welcome to find where I said the movie would never be released on physical media or that it would be unprofitable to do so. My post history is available like anyone else's.
QuoteAmazon is your friend to get a copy now I guess. The same probably applies to me.
At an overinflated price given the fall in the local currency. Maybe later, if they do a large enough run of discs.
sil do you think hulu just waited to ensure a financial return before releasing a phyical media? what do you think ? or was it just the outcry for a physical release ? has prey been copied ilegally and spread illegally as has theatrical releases? has the hulu online only release reduced the illegal spreading? or is it a hard thing to find out?
Quote from: oduodu on Aug 19, 2023, 05:50:41 AMor was it just the outcry for a physical release ?
I think this was the main driver. They saw there was enough interest to justify it.
oh look, naru is actually a predator fan too,
she's wearing a predator all over shirt. ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: SiL on Aug 19, 2023, 12:58:07 AMQuote from: Cougerboy on Aug 19, 2023, 12:55:38 AMYeah sure...
You're welcome to find where I said the movie would never be released on physical media or that it would be unprofitable to do so. My post history is available like anyone else's.
QuoteAmazon is your friend to get a copy now I guess. The same probably applies to me.
At an overinflated price given the fall in the local currency. Maybe later, if they do a large enough run of discs.
Well nothing is perfect in life is it? ;D
For me, the exchange rate is not so bad...for now.
https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1693656375904370840
Once it goes up on Amazon, I'll be putting in a pre-order straight away.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 21, 2023, 04:11:24 PMhttps://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1693656375904370840
Once it goes up on Amazon, I'll be putting in a pre-order straight away.
Do let me know.
https://twitter.com/BillHuntBits/status/1693688483729244331
Interesting move from Disney given they pulled out of physical media downunder and seem to be heading that way internationally too. Quick money grab u-turn from Iger and co?
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 21, 2023, 09:27:36 PMhttps://twitter.com/BillHuntBits/status/1693688483729244331
Fantastic
Quote from: Prez on Aug 21, 2023, 11:44:01 PMInteresting move from Disney given they pulled out of physical media downunder and seem to be heading that way internationally too. Quick money grab u-turn from Iger and co?
Possibly in response to the fact that streaming is financially untenable at this rate and they want to try to make as much out of their streaming-only products before it all crashes down.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 22, 2023, 06:33:34 AMQuote from: Prez on Aug 21, 2023, 11:44:01 PMInteresting move from Disney given they pulled out of physical media downunder and seem to be heading that way internationally too. Quick money grab u-turn from Iger and co?
Possibly in response to the fact that streaming is financially untenable at this rate and they want to try to make as much out of their streaming-only products before it all crashes down.
I think you nailed it. That was my initial thoughts too.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 22, 2023, 06:33:34 AMQuote from: Prez on Aug 21, 2023, 11:44:01 PMInteresting move from Disney given they pulled out of physical media downunder and seem to be heading that way internationally too. Quick money grab u-turn from Iger and co?
Possibly in response to the fact that streaming is financially untenable at this rate and they want to try to make as much out of their streaming-only products before it all crashes down.
Considering they've just announced physical releases of WandaVision and some other streaming exclusives, I think they might be realising that streaming isn't the be all and end all of home media.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 21, 2023, 09:27:36 PMhttps://twitter.com/BillHuntBits/status/1693688483729244331
Relieved to hear it's getting a global release. Instant pre-order for me. Been dying to see it a second time!
https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1693757050948653422
August 28 is set to be the date pre-orders go live for the Marvel/Star Wars Disney+ shows that are getting physical releases; maybe Prey's pre-orders will officially go live the same day (Best Buy seems to have jumped the gun a bit).
Just ordered the steelbook from Best Buy. Had to use the Best Buy app to select the steelbook because the site was being funky with the purchase button, but secured my preorder.
I was hoping for isolated score feature but I'll take it.
OK but can we get Aliens in 4K please
Quote from: Adam802 on Aug 22, 2023, 07:12:07 PMOK but can we get Aliens in 4K please
Hearing this is possibly happening next year.
And the other films?
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Aug 22, 2023, 07:45:50 PMQuote from: Adam802 on Aug 22, 2023, 07:12:07 PMOK but can we get Aliens in 4K please
Hearing this is possibly happening next year.
"Ah movement. Multiple signals...."
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 22, 2023, 09:00:00 PMAnd the other films?
Where is that 4K Abyss??
Quote from: Prez on Aug 22, 2023, 11:34:03 PMQuote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 22, 2023, 09:00:00 PMAnd the other films?
Where is that 4K Abyss??
The Abyss (and
Titanic and
True Lies) are all on that that "coming...eventually...maybe next year" list along with
Aliens.
No idea about
Alien 3 or
Alien: Resurrection just yet.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 22, 2023, 11:50:27 PMQuote from: Prez on Aug 22, 2023, 11:34:03 PMQuote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 22, 2023, 09:00:00 PMAnd the other films?
Where is that 4K Abyss??
The Abyss (and Titanic and True Lies) are all on that that "coming...eventually...maybe next year" list along with Aliens.
No idea about Alien 3 or Alien: Resurrection just yet.
According to Digital Bits, "True Lies" and "The Abyss" are still set for this year.
"Aliens" is being released next year. They had a tweet recently that said he would have more news on that soon.
Crossing my fingers and hoping that The Abyss' extended cut makes it to 4K.
Did T2's extended cut ever get a proper 4K release? The last Blu-ray I saw didn't restore the extended edition scenes to the same quality (or even colour grading) as the rest of the movie!
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Aug 23, 2023, 02:56:30 PMDid T2's extended cut ever get a proper 4K release? The last Blu-ray I saw didn't restore the extended edition scenes to the same quality (or even colour grading) as the rest of the movie!
Can't speak for
Terminator 2's release, I still haven't purchased it yet (not hot on the new colors that I've seen in the previews), but that did indeed happen with the added scenes in the misnamed "Director's Cut" of
Alien on 4K.
Judgment Day's 4K's notoriously awful, like, Ultimate Hunter Edition level.
https://twitter.com/20thHomeEnt/status/1694395015106068674
Pre-orders are now officially live.
Amazon isn't mentioned on the site, but the 4K pre-order option is live there as well. That's where I pre-ordered it (since if the price dips between now and release, they always honor the lowest option).
And speak of the devil... this guy isn't always reliable, mind you:
https://x.com/thediscfather/status/1694381429906719076?s=46&t=_UkEryu2c2UmLOQcQ5K4SA
Yeah, given who's doing the reporting there, I wouldn't be entirely shocked if the info he's working off of is exactly the same as what we are. :laugh:
Glad they're finally releasing it on bluray. Nice we're having a commentary track as well.
I'll try and get a review prepped.
Wonder if they'll do a box set of the previous 4 Predator movies to include this film Prey, for that matter a 7 movie boxset with the 2 Alien Vs Predator films.
Hope everybody got their Steelbooks if you wanted them, looks like that edition is sold out.
Quote from: XENOMORPHOSIS on Aug 27, 2023, 12:56:07 PMWonder if they'll do a box set of the previous 4 Predator movies to include this film Prey, for that matter a 7 movie boxset with the 2 Alien Vs Predator films.
That would be terrific. Honestly I'd be over the moon if they gave the previous Predator movies updated standalone 4K releases. And it would be nice if they went back and remastered, fixed, AVPR and put both the crossover movies on 4K.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Aug 27, 2023, 05:33:55 PMHope everybody got their Steelbooks if you wanted them, looks like that edition is sold out.
Maybe if the numbers look appealing enough they'll go back for a reprint later. BestBuy and Sony have both been doing that with Steelbooks.
Great new, but I wish I can watch it in cinema or iMax
Quote from: RoguePred1987 on Aug 28, 2023, 12:50:28 AMHonestly I'd be over the moon if they gave the previous Predator movies updated standalone 4K releases.
Literally why, what could you possibly gain with that idea, they are already pretty much perfect.
Fellow Aussies, Amazon.com has the 4K UHD for a discounted $AUD48.17 + $16 shipping.
https://www.amazon.com/Prey-4K-UHD-Amber-Midthunder/dp/B0CFYHGGVK/
Quote from: Prez on Aug 31, 2023, 12:56:51 AMFellow Aussies, Amazon.com has the 4K UHD for a discounted $AUD48.17 + $16 shipping.
https://www.amazon.com/Prey-4K-UHD-Amber-Midthunder/dp/B0CFYHGGVK/
Awesome to see physical available for Australia after the word that got around before about Disney cutting them off from all physical.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 30, 2023, 11:40:01 PMQuote from: RoguePred1987 on Aug 28, 2023, 12:50:28 AMHonestly I'd be over the moon if they gave the previous Predator movies updated standalone 4K releases.
Literally why, what could you possibly gain with that idea, they are already pretty much perfect.
For any number of reasons. More sales, updated features and art, and not least of all because outside the boxset individual 4K releases of the previous films aren't readily available at most retailers. And with Prey coming out it would be easy to put out the others alongside it on a store shelf, or on online retailers.
They didn't say they're going to make importing physical media illegal or something. Just they aren't selling it locally.
And they aren't. $48+$16 shipping is obscene.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 31, 2023, 01:56:19 AMThey didn't say they're going to make importing physical media illegal or something. Just they aren't selling it locally.
And they aren't. $48+$16 shipping is obscene.
I didn't mind the actual price but yer that shipping is a real killer for me.
I already have prey on blue ray.
Any word on european market?
I saw mention that it will get a Euro release, but no hard info yet.
I hope you are right. Maybe they will wait how much money it Will make in US market.
Region B release Nov 27th
https://www.zavvi.com/4k/prey-4k-ultra-hd-steelbook/14926578.html
https://www.zavvi.com/blu-ray/prey/14926576.html
https://www.zavvi.com/4k/prey-4k-ultra-hd/14926577.html
Already got the steel book preordered. :D
Aaaand ordered.
First review is out: https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Prey-4K-Blu-ray/343944/#Review
Positive.
Damn, I knew the way they listed the extras were too good to be true. The commentary takes up a lot of that time they said would cover the special features.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 18, 2023, 06:39:26 AM"2 hours including", makes me think it's only 20 minutes of extras.
And if one is the same opening but with a different VO, I feel like the only substance is going to be the commentary and the fact it's physical media.
Called it.
Yeah, advertising it like that is unfortunately pretty standard practice. :-\
I am very very glad to have the commentary track, but I do miss the days where we would get an extensive making of doc as well.
Saddened but not surprised to find the documentary's gonna be lightweight.
It won't ever happen, but I really wish they'd let Lauzirika loose on the Predator franchise.
seeing on twitter multiple reviewers have gotten their copies.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Sep 23, 2023, 09:34:36 AMSaddened but not surprised to find the documentary's gonna be lightweight.
It won't ever happen, but I really wish they'd let Lauzirika loose on the Predator franchise.
He really enjoyed Prey. He was at the first SDCC screening with Ridgtop and I.
I remember asking him at the after party if he'd ever be interested in tackling a documentary on the Predator films. He kinda gave me a no, and implied he only really likes the first film and Prey after it kicking so much ass.
Another positive one from HighDefDigest 4.5/5: https://ultrahd.highdefdigest.com/121127/prey4kuhd.html
This doing well will help the sequel
absolutely it will
Glad to see they've done a great job on the video and audio. I'm disappointed, if not surprised, about the behind-the-scenes feature not being meaty. One day the Predator series will get some love with those.
the collectors editions of 1 and 2 had pretty fantastic features on DVD around the time the Alien Quadrilogy came out.
My memory is they were pretty standard fare. Nothing compared to the Quadrilogy. :'(
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 25, 2023, 01:38:18 PMMy memory is they were pretty standard fare. Nothing compared to the Quadrilogy. :'(
That really was the peak of the format, I doubt we'll ever get a package like that again. The Alien 3 commentary will always have a place in my heart :(
I unfortunately agree with you. Studios just don't place the value on that kind of coverage anymore.
Yeah, unfortunately the only way you're really going to get any sort of extensive features these days is with the premium/boutique labels – Criterion, Arrow, Shout, etc.
I am incredibly thankful that these exist (the twice a year Barnes & Noble Criterion sale always ends up being a bit of a shopping spree for me) but I do miss general releases from the studios also coming with features worth watching as well.
As streaming continues to lose studios money, I hope they start to realise the value in feature rich home releases again.
Quote from: SiL on Sep 26, 2023, 12:09:53 PMAs streaming continues to lose studios money, I hope they start to realise the value in feature rich home releases again.
Amen.
Nice little review here on the Digital Bits too https://thedigitalbits.com/item/prey-4k-uhd-2023 - goes into some technical detail as well.
I quite enjoyed Prey on first watch, but I watched it again last night - and dare I say, I felt a little bored with it. I'll still pick up the Blu-ray, but wondering if I'm alone in thinking it's not actually as good as I thought on first watch...?
got my shipping notification last night, and estimated arrival is tomorrow. won't be long now.
Quote from: Superstitious Man on Sep 27, 2023, 07:58:34 PMI quite enjoyed Prey on first watch, but I watched it again last night - and dare I say, I felt a little bored with it. I'll still pick up the Blu-ray, but wondering if I'm alone in thinking it's not actually as good as I thought on first watch...?
Nah, I've probably watched it 5 times since release and I've thoroughly enjoyed each viewing.
Mine is saying it'll be here Wednesday. 8)
Boo, not out here in the UK until the end of November.
EDIT***
Oct. 1- DELIVERED. Great condition except for the smallest smallest ding on the front. Can't wait to put it on tonight.
EDIT 2***
the movie looks terrific on 4K.
Prey 4K out now. Here's my review: https://www.avpgalaxy.net/predator-movies/prey/4k-blu-ray-review/
https://twitter.com/ScottWamplerRIP/status/1709238719188803631
https://twitter.com/IGN/status/1709335289515196552
YT link
My copy arrived today. 8)
How are the deleted scenes?
I hope there's an alternate ending where they find Ripley in a cryo-pod. That'd be great.
Sad I wasn't able to nab the steelbook. Tried going to a few stores in my area but no luck. Settled for just the regular 4K+Blu-ray, but glad to have a physical copy regardless!
Feeling a bit down, so I did something rash...
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https://twitter.com/GeekTyrant/status/1709669728531226675
Quote from: ace3g on Oct 05, 2023, 01:06:18 AMhttps://twitter.com/GeekTyrant/status/1709669728531226675
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drlBg-b4IBc
This would have been awesome if it was in the film.
That is indeed a really cool sequence. The Hunting Grounds influence is strong there. It's a shame it didn't make it into the film.
https://x.com/TheDiscFather/status/1714340513103691885?s=20 (https://x.com/TheDiscFather/status/1714340513103691885?s=20)
Prey 4K Steelbooks are restocked at Best Buy!
Just snagged one for pickup for myself online.
Kinda disheartened now in trying to get this film - the cost of shipping to AU is insane (gotten more expensive).
That deleted scene looks interesting, but Feral gets stabbed through his body perhaps too many times already.
I wish we were able to hear the dialogue of the deleted scenes. One set with the director's commentary and then one where we can absorb the scene alone. Wanted to see that moment with Naru and the little girl as the scene for itself.
Can you not turn the commentary off?
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 30, 2023, 10:16:25 AMCan you not turn the commentary off?
Unfortunately not...
My immediate response to this has me singing a little bit of Penny Lane and there's apparently no GIFs of it for me to react with so...
https://youtu.be/S-rB0pHI9fU?si=xM6TA2rfpLA4HmAr&t=35
I don't understand that choice.
Even weirder it is not like they did not bother putting in the audio for the deleted scenes, you can just barely hear it underneath Dan Trachtenberg's commentary, it's borderline inaudible but does exist.
In another strange choice I think in part because of the deleted scenes being talked about during the commentary track, the commentary track's only available on the Blu-ray, it's not on the 4K Blu-ray.
An interesting logic behind it that sort of makes sense if you only somehow have the UHD I guess but in practice, means you have to watch it in 2K if you want commentary, or 4K without commentary.
Add to this the making of only lasts a whopping twelve minutes, plus a twenty six minute convention panel makes for some pretty underwhelming special features.
Whats even weirder is the deleted scenes just has the oridinary audio on media sites.
https://www.inverse.com/entertainment/prey-blu-ray-exclusive-deleted-scene
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Nov 02, 2023, 09:10:58 PMWhats even weirder is the deleted scenes just has the ordinary audio on media sites.
https://www.inverse.com/entertainment/prey-blu-ray-exclusive-deleted-scene
It's nuts that I have to look at a media news site to see a deleted scene without commentary from a Blu-Rey disk that I paid for.
The only copy I can preorder seems to be in German, Italian and French, FML... have to wait closer to tenth of december I guess...
https://twitter.com/Predator/status/1720546396829589892
I got this for my birthday last month and finally watched it again. Looks just terrific in 4K. Even after having seen the film 5 times or so now, I still love it.
Gonna get a copy to add to the collection of the Predator saga, wonder if they'll do development an entire boxset "perhaps for the 40th anniversary of the original film in 2027" of all Predator entries thus far from Predator, Predator 2, Alien Vs Predator, Aliens Vs Predator Requiem, Predators, The Predator and Prey. It could be possible we may get Prey 2 included if it is indeed in the pipeline.
If AVP/AVPR gets a 4K before Alien³ I will neck myself.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Nov 20, 2023, 10:30:08 PMIf AVP/AVPR gets a 4K before Alien³ I will neck myself.
Neck yourself? I think this is slang that I do not understand
Kill herself.
My copy of the Blu-ray's on its way here in the UK. Can't wait to give this another watch.
Haven't found the time yet, determined to soon though.
Arrived yesterday.
Don't get me wrong, I'm thrilled to have a physical copy, but the fact it's in a slimline Blu-ray case when the other Predator films were in full size cases is triggering my OCD something fierce :laugh:
Going to be watching later today.
My copy arrived yesterday too! Looking forward to rewatching - it's been a little while, but I'd been relistening to some of the score this week and it really put me in the mood.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Nov 26, 2023, 11:37:24 AMArrived yesterday.
Don't get me wrong, I'm thrilled to have a physical copy, but the fact it's in a slimline Blu-ray case when the other Predator films were in full size cases is triggering my OCD something fierce :laugh:
Going to be watching later today.
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Quote from: HuDaFuK on Nov 26, 2023, 11:37:24 AMArrived yesterday.
Don't get me wrong, I'm thrilled to have a physical copy, but the fact it's in a slimline Blu-ray case when the other Predator films were in full size cases is triggering my OCD something fierce :laugh:
Going to be watching later today.
After receiving some blu-rays and 4K's with damaged cases I've fully embraced buying empty cases online and replacing things as needed. you can get them on Amazon pretty easily.
FYI, Aussies - free shipping on Amazon for Prey 4K. Still $60 though. https://amzn.asia/d/8n06Bhi
Finally got a 4k copy in, as I hoped for, the transfer quality is far better than what I got with streaming, and it's lovely to have a physical copy of the films that I love.
This is my third time watching it, I liked it better than I remember.
the 4K is gorgeous
Still haven't broken in my 4K copy of Prey yet, but definitely planning a Predator, Predator 2, and Prey triple feature soon, now that I just got my hands on the first couple movies on 4K (along with Predators and... ehm, The Predator... as well, since I got the four movie box set).
Been wanting to revisit Predator since Carl Weathers passed.
Prey/Predator/Predator 2 triple feature is perfect. Predators is a lovely cocktail after that meal. Would really love for the previous movies to get individual 4K releases outside of the boxset. Maybe when "Badlands" comes out they'll go for it and rerelease everything.
Why exactly?
Their current 4K releases are already borderline perfect, you can still pick up the Predator Trilogy easily, and Prey.
It is every Alien sequel that desperately needs some love.
The collector in me is also hoping for individual 4K special boutique releases for each of the Predator movies (except THAT one). I'm glad it's available, but something about that trilogy pack just doesn't scratch that itch for me.
I know it's kinda dumb, but I want a cool steelbook (I love the one for Prey) or some sort of special packaging like what Arrow or Vinegar Syndrome put out.
Also want to see the same for the Alien series and AVP of course.
Trilogy or boxsets only appeal to me when they have some effort put into them like the Alien Anthology for example. There was a cohesive look and feel with all the GUI and design throughout. Don't like the slapdash efforts to just put 3 previous releases inside a box and sell it off.
Still thinking about spending $AUD60 with free shipping to get Prey on 4k from the US. Tempting but so bloody expensive. For you non-Aussies, we usually pay around $20-40 locally for a 4K release.
Quote from: Prez on Feb 22, 2024, 11:25:21 PMTrilogy or boxsets only appeal to me when they have some effort put into them like the Alien Anthology for example. There was a cohesive look and feel with all the GUI and design throughout. Don't like the slapdash efforts to just put 3 previous releases inside a box and sell it off.
Good point! The Alien Anthology box is a great example. When it's a nicely put together box set that feels like a special release I'm cool with that. Or even something like that boxset for Friday the 13th that Shout Factory put out, with that amazing artwork on the big outer box that holds all the individual films.
The Predator one just kind of gives me the vibe of a slapped together box go in the bargain bin at Wal-mart or Best Buy. Nothing special about it.
As someone that just got the Predator one, I can also say that it's pretty poorly made. It arrived from Amazon with the discs loose in the case, so I shipped it back and got a replacement... which also came in the same exact way. Amazon wouldn't replace it and send me a third one so they just refunded me and told me to keep that second one. Opened it up and the case is pretty crap, but the discs don't look scratched as far as I can tell. Hope they actually play.
Also had this same thing happen recently with the 4K LotR trilogy set. They all seem to be doubling down on using big cases with really flimsy pages and clips that can barely hold the discs.
boxsets are nice, but when you're taking about an ongoing franchise they can be deeply frustrating. a really wonderfully put together boxset is great...until a new movie comes out and its instantly out of date. the only time i've ever heard of a boxset trying to address the issue was that massive James Bond complete set that had an empty disc space for the movie that was about to come out.
But there will never be another film in "The Trilogy" the UK release of it on 4K uses a fold out design much like the original Alien Anthology.
And it is not a slap dash set, they made the effort to give all three films the same stylistic main menus, with also the bookmark system from the Anthology.
Individual releases do exist, but are much more difficult finds, with Disney now ending their Movie Club and moving distribution to through Sony instead if you thought that they did not do many boutique releases before get ready for nothing.
I can not stress enough the Predator films will likely never ever get a better release, just repackaging and reprinting.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 23, 2024, 09:16:24 AMif you thought that they did not do many boutique releases before get ready for nothing.
I can not stress enough the Predator films will likely never ever get a better release, just repackaging and reprinting.
That makes me very sad :'(
The gravity of physical media being on the decline is starting to really hit me...
There are a lot of companies out there doing incredible work with physical media releases – Criterion, Arrow, Shout/Scream Factory, Kino Lorber, etc., to name just a few – but yeah, releases are basically all barebones or just totally nonexistent when it comes to releases from the big studios at this point...
Hell, the LotR 4K set doesn't even both to throw in any of the documentaries and bonus features that that DVD/Blu-ray releases were known for. Like I'm not asking for the docs to be remastered for 4K obviously, but like... slap those Blu-ray discs in the box at least.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 23, 2024, 05:45:36 PMThere are a lot of companies out there doing incredible work with physical media releases – Criterion, Arrow, Shout/Scream Factory, Kino Lorber, etc., to name just a few – but yeah, releases are basically all barebones or just totally nonexistent when it comes to releases from the big studios at this point...
Hell, the LotR 4K set doesn't even both to throw in any of the documentaries and bonus features that that DVD/Blu-ray releases were known for. Like I'm not asking for the docs to be remastered for 4K obviously, but like... slap those Blu-ray discs in the box at least.
I always thought that the quality of the DvD and Blu Ray presentations drop off since 2018 more or less. Could be that the people are more inclined to streaming service and not physical media. But I never saw anything as great like Alien Quadrilogy and Anthology, even the Ultimate Jurassic Park Trilogy DvD was cool
Quote from: aliens13 on Feb 23, 2024, 11:14:21 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 23, 2024, 05:45:36 PMThere are a lot of companies out there doing incredible work with physical media releases – Criterion, Arrow, Shout/Scream Factory, Kino Lorber, etc., to name just a few – but yeah, releases are basically all barebones or just totally nonexistent when it comes to releases from the big studios at this point...
Hell, the LotR 4K set doesn't even both to throw in any of the documentaries and bonus features that that DVD/Blu-ray releases were known for. Like I'm not asking for the docs to be remastered for 4K obviously, but like... slap those Blu-ray discs in the box at least.
I always thought that the quality of the DvD and Blu Ray presentations drop off since 2018 more or less. Could be that the people are more inclined to streaming service and not physical media. But I never saw anything as great like Alien Quadrilogy and Anthology, even the Ultimate Jurassic Park Trilogy DvD was cool
Yep. I still buy 4K discs regularly because the quality of a disc trumps the quality of a stream any day, but I do miss the days when it seemed like almlost every release came with really great special features to accompany the film itself.
I'm just glad we do have the boutique labels doing everything they can for titles that really deserve it whenever they can scoop up the rights for them.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 23, 2024, 11:49:11 PMQuote from: aliens13 on Feb 23, 2024, 11:14:21 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 23, 2024, 05:45:36 PMThere are a lot of companies out there doing incredible work with physical media releases – Criterion, Arrow, Shout/Scream Factory, Kino Lorber, etc., to name just a few – but yeah, releases are basically all barebones or just totally nonexistent when it comes to releases from the big studios at this point...
Hell, the LotR 4K set doesn't even both to throw in any of the documentaries and bonus features that that DVD/Blu-ray releases were known for. Like I'm not asking for the docs to be remastered for 4K obviously, but like... slap those Blu-ray discs in the box at least.
I always thought that the quality of the DvD and Blu Ray presentations drop off since 2018 more or less. Could be that the people are more inclined to streaming service and not physical media. But I never saw anything as great like Alien Quadrilogy and Anthology, even the Ultimate Jurassic Park Trilogy DvD was cool
Yep. I still buy 4K discs regularly because the quality of a disc trumps the quality of a stream any day, but I do miss the days when it seemed like almlost every release came with really great special features to accompany the film itself.
I'm just glad we do have the boutique labels doing everything they can for titles that really deserve it whenever they can scoop up the rights for them.
The last 4k Blue Ray that I bought was Jurassic World Dominion Steelbook, and before it was the Steelbook of Alien Covenant. You can also see an downgrade in the menus, back then they made incredible menua for the movies. I can remember the JP and TWL one with the velociraptors, or the ones of Alien Anthology. They were really interesting to look at, now they made them boring just showing random parts of the movie
I think the Anthology is a beautifully crafted boxset collection. That said the original LOTR Extended Edition DVDs whilst not a boxset, were absolutely gorgeous. Beautiful fold-out packaging with so much TLC in the design and artwork. And Madman's original 5 volume DVD collection of Battle of the Planets (Gatchaman) with Alex Ross' artwork plastering it are stunning (BTW if anyone has volume 5, I'd love to talk if your willing to sell it).
They simply rarely make such wonderfully crafted sets these days unless it's someone from Shout, Arrow, Scream or the like.
I hope Alien Romulus get an appropriate blu ray release, sure it will have an physical release. But I want a very good one like before
Quote from: aliens13 on Feb 24, 2024, 09:32:15 PMI hope Alien Romulus get an appropriate blu ray release, sure it will have an physical release. But I want a very good one like before
As it is,
Covenant's release (apart from the really nice packaging from the Target exclusive Blu-ray edition) really pales in comparison to what came before. The hour long doc is decent but can't hold a candle to the material Lauzirika spearheaded for the Quadrilogy/Anthology and
Prometheus.
I'd expect something comparable to what
Prey got for
Romulus, honestly. Anything more is a bonus...
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 24, 2024, 10:08:14 PMQuote from: aliens13 on Feb 24, 2024, 09:32:15 PMI hope Alien Romulus get an appropriate blu ray release, sure it will have an physical release. But I want a very good one like before
As it is, Covenant's release (apart from the really nice packaging from the Target exclusive Blu-ray edition) really pales in comparison to what came before. The hour long doc is decent but can't hold a candle to the material Lauzirika spearheaded for the Quadrilogy/Anthology and Prometheus.
I'd expect something comparable to what Prey got for Romulus, honestly. Anything more is a bonus...
And do you consider the Prey blu ray release good?
Quote from: aliens13 on Feb 24, 2024, 10:40:52 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 24, 2024, 10:08:14 PMQuote from: aliens13 on Feb 24, 2024, 09:32:15 PMI hope Alien Romulus get an appropriate blu ray release, sure it will have an physical release. But I want a very good one like before
As it is, Covenant's release (apart from the really nice packaging from the Target exclusive Blu-ray edition) really pales in comparison to what came before. The hour long doc is decent but can't hold a candle to the material Lauzirika spearheaded for the Quadrilogy/Anthology and Prometheus.
I'd expect something comparable to what Prey got for Romulus, honestly. Anything more is a bonus...
And do you consider the Prey blu ray release good?
Good in that it's a miracle we got one at all for a streaming release.
Bad in that it is pretty much barebones.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 24, 2024, 10:48:43 PMQuote from: aliens13 on Feb 24, 2024, 10:40:52 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 24, 2024, 10:08:14 PMQuote from: aliens13 on Feb 24, 2024, 09:32:15 PMI hope Alien Romulus get an appropriate blu ray release, sure it will have an physical release. But I want a very good one like before
As it is, Covenant's release (apart from the really nice packaging from the Target exclusive Blu-ray edition) really pales in comparison to what came before. The hour long doc is decent but can't hold a candle to the material Lauzirika spearheaded for the Quadrilogy/Anthology and Prometheus.
I'd expect something comparable to what Prey got for Romulus, honestly. Anything more is a bonus...
And do you consider the Prey blu ray release good?
Good in that it's a miracle we got one at all for a streaming release.
Bad in that it is pretty much barebones.
I'm not that much fan of Predator (I'm big fan of Alien), so when the news of BR release came out I wasn't too excited but the art work of the Steelbook looks kinda meh. On the Covenant release I loved the art work of the Steelbook, I hope they put more effort in Romulus that they put in Prey
I quite liked the art frr the Prey steelbook.
But yeah it did more so felt like a miracle that we got anything at all, so expectations were low.
I am going to buy classic blu ray next month. Maybe.