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Previews & Interviews:

• The Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2012/apr/04/aliens-colonial-marines-multiplayer-preview)


• CVG (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/342694/previews/aliens-colonial-marines-in-space-no-one-can-hear-you-team-kill/)


• Gamereactor (http://www.gamereactor.eu/previews/22851/Aliens:+Colonial+Marines/)


• Destructoid 1 (http://www.destructoid.com/elephant/photo-m.phtml?post_key=225084)


• Destructoid 2 (http://www.destructoid.com/aliens-colonial-marines-is-a-solo-cooperative-hobby-225174.phtml)


• Destructoid 3 (http://www.destructoid.com/aliens-colonial-marines-to-use-next-gen-lighting-225194.phtml)


• Destructoid 4 (http://www.destructoid.com/colonial-marines-explains-the-aliens-but-not-too-much-225264.phtml)


• OXM UK (http://www.oxm.co.uk/40397/new-aliens-colonial-marines-screenshots-multiplayer-smart-guns-androids/)


• OXM (http://www.oxmonline.com/aliens-colonial-marines-multiplayer-hands-preview)


• Gamespy (http://uk.pc.gamespy.com/pc/sega-alien-shooter/1222245p1.html)


• MTV (http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2012/04/04/aliens-colonial-marines-single-multiplayer-preview/)


• UGO (http://www.ugo.com/games/aliens-colonial-marines-preview)


• Gamesradar (http://www.gamesradar.com/aliens-colonial-marines-info-blowout-new-screens-concept-art-interviews-and-details/)


• IGN UK (http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/122/1222250p1.html)


• OPM UK (http://www.officialplaystationmagazine.co.uk/2012/04/04/aliens-colonial-marines-ps3-preview-close-encounters-of-the-bitey-kind/)


• Thesixthaxis (http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2012/04/04/new-aliens-colonial-marines-screenshots-show-aliens-and-colonial-marines-in-screenshots/)


• Gamespot (http://www.gamespot.com/aliens-colonial-marines-2012/previews/from-halo-to-hadleys-hope-building-a-flexible-aliens-sequel-6369848/)


• Joystiq 1 (http://www.joystiq.com/2012/04/04/the-acid-blooded-devil-is-in-the-details-for-aliens-colonial-ma/)



• Joystiq 2 (http://www.joystiq.com/2012/04/04/gearbox-boss-says-impressive-wii-u-a-really-nice-bridge-to-the/)


• Joystiq 3 (http://www.joystiq.com/2012/04/04/aliens-colonial-marines-multiplayer-or-how-gearbox-played-as/)


• G4TV (http://www.g4tv.com/games/xbox-360/43623/aliens-colonial-marines/articles/76981/aliens-colonial-marines-hands-on-preview-a-love-letter-blockbuster-in-the-making/)


• X-play (http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/722435/aliens-colonial-marines-gameplay-video/)


• OPM UK (http://www.officialplaystationmagazine.co.uk/2012/04/04/aliens-colonial-marines-ties-into-ridley-scotts-prometheus-contains-spoilers/)// Upcoming Magazine Cover Story


• IGN 1 (http://uk.games.ign.com/articles/122/1222270p1.html)


• IGN 2 (http://uk.games.ign.com/articles/122/1222253p1.html)


• Destructoid 5 (http://www.destructoid.com/colonial-marines-writer-all-good-games-are-collaborative-225344.phtml)
• The Guardian 2 (//www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2012/apr/25/aliens-colonial-marines-preview)

Videos and Gameplay (Single Player and Multiplayer):

Download links (HQ)// Video #1 (http://www.mediafire.com/?bwq467u4nl6ot03) // Video #2 (http://www.mediafire.com/?bnxp75rg27fhd3b)

• Gameplay + Interview PC Gamer (http://youtu.be/VG4opj3dMxc)


• Gameplay + Interview Gamesradar (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjBJu4oOjlg#ws)


• Gameplay + Interview Gamespot (http://www.gamespot.com/aliens-colonial-marines-2012/videos/aliens-colonial-marines-wants-to-scare-the-piss-out-of-you-6369892)


• Gameplay (SP & MP) (http://www.jeuxvideo.fr/jeux/aliens-colonial-marines/aliens-colonial-marines-videos-gameplay-preview-actu-485270.html)


• Gameplay (SP & MP) + Impressions / OPM UK (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CHGJkNy4LA#ws)


• Gameplay SP (http://youtu.be/2XgLs9Fr5XY)



• Gameplay SP / Gametrailers (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/first-contact-aliens-colonial/728781)


• Gameplay (MP) (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/marine-multiplayer-aliens-colonial/728763)


• Gameplay + Interviews Gamesradar (http://www.gamesradar.com/aliens-colonial-marines-info-blowout-new-screens-concept-art-interviews-and-details/)


• Gameplay + Interview Randy Pitchford 1 / Gametrailers (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/randy-pitchford-aliens-colonial/728753)


• Gameplay + Interview Randy Pitchford 2 / Gametrailers (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/randy-pitchford-aliens-colonial/728755)


• Gameplay + Interview Brian Burleson / Gametrailers (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/brian-burleson-aliens-colonial/728757)


• Gameplay + Interview John Mulkey / CVG (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j64Rckx2M9g#ws)


• Gameplay + Interview Brian Martel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYyg5dtac3c#ws)


• Gameplay + Interview Mikey Newman / CVG (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/videos/aliens-colonial-marines-interview-mikey-newman-MwRREblsUr7q5)


• Gameplay + Interview Mikey Newman / Gameswelt (http://www.gameswelt.de/videos/videoarticles/158189-Aliens_Colonial_Marines_-_Video_Interview_mit_Mikey_Neumann_Extended_Version.html)


• Gameplay + Interview Randy Pitchford / Gameswelt (http://www.gameswelt.de/videos/videoarticles/158187-Aliens_Colonial_Marines.html)


• Gameplay + Interview John Mulkey  / Gameswelt (http://www.gameswelt.de/videos/videoarticles/158188-Aliens_Colonial_Marines.html)



• Gameplay + Interviews with Various GBX Staffers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE2ztkYiIZk&feature=youtu.be#t=7m30s)

Screenshots and Concept Art (HD - Untagged): Click Here (http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/2561706/1/Gearbox?h=1c272f)

Not working for me.

They lifted the embargo early and now removed it. The images are still at their galleries if you wanna see them.

Just seen them, nice. 8)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2012/apr/04/aliens-colonial-marines-multiplayer-preview (http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2012/apr/04/aliens-colonial-marines-multiplayer-preview)

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/342694/previews/aliens-colonial-marines-in-space-no-one-can-hear-you-team-kill/ (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/342694/previews/aliens-colonial-marines-in-space-no-one-can-hear-you-team-kill/)

http://www.gamereactor.eu/previews/22851/Aliens:+Colonial+Marines/ (http://www.gamereactor.eu/previews/22851/Aliens:+Colonial+Marines/)

http://www.destructoid.com/elephant/photo-m.phtml?post_key=225084 (http://www.destructoid.com/elephant/photo-m.phtml?post_key=225084)

Gameplay:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYyg5dtac3c#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYyg5dtac3c#ws)

Looks great,loving the smart gun and i like that they added iron sights to the pulse rifle.

http://www.ugo.com/games/aliens-colonial-marines-preview?cmpid=rss-games (http://www.ugo.com/games/aliens-colonial-marines-preview?cmpid=rss-games)

http://www.gamesradar.com/aliens-colonial-marines-info-blowout-new-screens-concept-art-interviews-and-details/ (http://www.gamesradar.com/aliens-colonial-marines-info-blowout-new-screens-concept-art-interviews-and-details/)

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/342694/previews/aliens-colonial-marines-in-space-no-one-can-hear-you-team-kill (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/342694/previews/aliens-colonial-marines-in-space-no-one-can-hear-you-team-kill)

Thanks a bunch!! This game looks amazing.

Seems as though the iron sights (multiple different versions shown now) will be optional attachments  ;D

Not bad, gearbox. not bad at all  8) graphics look pretty good, the option for attachments (iron sights n such) is well placed and environment looks very comparable to the film. i cant wait :D

I won't be posting links on the pages. Just the original post so please check that list before posting new links.

From this video http://www.gametrailers.com/video/marine-multiplayer-aliens-colonial/728764 (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/marine-multiplayer-aliens-colonial/728764) = The map textures are horrible, but thats because of the consoles, on PC it will be better. I am more concerned about the new E-Grab. I thought GBX learned their lesson from AvP 2010 that such mechanic is not good for the game  :-\

Quote from: HicksUSCM on Apr 04, 2012, 01:32:52 PM
From this video http://www.gametrailers.com/video/marine-multiplayer-aliens-colonial/728764 (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/marine-multiplayer-aliens-colonial/728764) = The map textures are horrible, but thats because of the consoles, on PC it will be better. I am more concerned about the new E-Grab. I thought GBX learned their lesson from AvP 2010 that such mechanic is not good for the game  :-\

What do you mean E-grab?

Press E to earn instant kill? You never played AvP 2010?

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/812/aliens378641b.jpg/ (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/812/aliens378641b.jpg/)

check out bishop's remains

Added more gameplay videos. SP and MP.

I watched the multiplayer video, not really that interested. It just looks generic honestly, but I guess I'll have to wait until I see the Alien side of the gameplay before I can really judge.

Im seeing smooth headed drones in there. Probably what they mean by xeno soldier and scout. Soldier = warrior and scout = drone. Friggin awesome.

Awesome.  Still not too much video-wise, but those graphics look just insanely gorgeous.  Seeing the cryotubes in the Sulaco was nice, as well as dat Smartgun...  it looks great.  I still like the little touch of having to hold the motion tracker, makes it feel closer to the marines' behavior in the film.

CoD-style hit markers, too, which I think are great as you know when you've tagged a xeno or not from farther distances.

Edit - Just read multiplayer preview from The Guardian... and oh my god.  The weapon descriptions were great, two types of pulse rifles (if I read correctly) submachine guns, shotguns, flamethrowers, all with 4 different weapon slots for customization.

Two different xeno types so far: warriors and "lurkers" which are lower-health, higher agility.  Unlockable "special" Alien in the match, which reminds me of the Queen molt (pumps fist) and doesn't really bother me one bit...  Let's see what other goodness did we have there?

XP and cash for assists and kills.  This is just friggin awesome, and tells me that the game will have much more of a multiplayer component than its' AvP predecessors did (AvP2 being exception.)  Aliens have 6 custom slots, with third-person control to limit puke factor.  That may be a great idea that I didn't really think about... nice one GBX, but I hope you can switch it to first-person if you want, for us old school Alien players. :laugh:

Overall, I'm excited as hell, and have seen enough to keep me happy.  Thanks everyone involved.

 :'( So much f**k yea right now. Its looking so awesome.

Quote from: HicksUSCM on Apr 04, 2012, 01:40:45 PM
Press E to earn instant kill? You never played AvP 2010?

I remember that but I did not see it in this game. I must have missed it! Thanks.

Quote from: Predaker on Apr 04, 2012, 02:31:34 PM

Quote from: HicksUSCM on Apr 04, 2012, 01:40:45 PM
Press E to earn instant kill? You never played AvP 2010?

I remember that but I did not see it in this game. I must have missed it! Thanks.

Watch the MP trailer. You will see how 3 players get pounced on at once. Its hilarious  ;D

From Gamereactor preview:

QuoteWe then went hands-on with the competitive multiplayer, which borrows heavily from Valve's Left 4 Dead.

So freaking thrilled about this, especially since many of us have been talking about it on the boards.  Just nice to hear.

The aliens themselves look much better than the ones in the avp 2010 game but sadly, they still walk on all fours despite being human-spawned and their legs are dog-alien like instead of humanoid, this is what they looked like in the movie aliens.http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRYWlQAWLWUwrtgI3J-sjfz1uvmduPOeaPOvFKM3rEWmFs32-hsVQ (http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRYWlQAWLWUwrtgI3J-sjfz1uvmduPOeaPOvFKM3rEWmFs32-hsVQ)
and
http://www.flickr.com/photos/plasticfetish/3653200392/#in/photostream/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/plasticfetish/3653200392/#in/photostream/)
but as long as the game's story and gameplay are brilliant then i am ok with it. Though i still like to know how the hell is the complex still standing.

Oh my gosh, the single player is going to be so cinematic. Boarding the Sulaco, retracing Hicks and his squads steps in Hadley's Hope plus exploring new areas of it, going to the Derelict and seeing the Space Jockey. Gonna be so. f**king. Sweeeet!

The MP looks pretty good so far, though I couldn't tell if it was like a Gears of War Horde Mode style or if it was a true MP.

HOLY SHIT!!! man this looks awsome, simply cannot wait for this. It looks like every alien fans dream come to life, from the pulse rifle (nice iron sights there) to the alien models, enviroments and everything really. Man sooo stoked for this .

Another great bit from the Gamespy article that directly talks about an issue important to many:

QuoteAnother mystery will be how new alien types will be introduced, such as the Stalkers that appeared in the demo of Colonial Marines. Watching them move around, jump off walls, and hide behind pillars reminded me of that first Spider Splicer encountered at the beginning of BioShock. This is a contrast to the Soldier variety (the traditional xenomorphs from Aliens) that will attack you directly in greater numbers. Even though Gearbox could create a dozen different alien variants, they'll still need to scare us, and that won't happen if the same alien pops out at the same spot every time. If that happens, Colonial Marines could easily become Alien Shooting Range. I asked Burleson how they intend to prevent that.

"Actually, the environments are pretty dynamic," says Burleson. "Depending where you're at or what you've been doing, xenos will pop in and out. They don't necessarily want to die, and they are smart, and they will get out of the scene as you're trying to blow away their friends. They avoid the spots where their friends have died, so their pathing changes depending on where you killed one of them. So yeah, your experience changes depending on where you shoot the xenos, and also when you bring your friends in, it changes that experience. But if it's important for the narrative, there will be some consistency, but in most of the environments this will be dynamic."

Sounds like we'll have a linear story with some path choices and different xeno spawn points.  That sounds good enough for me, especially if the multiplayer is as solid and well-balanced as it appears to already be...

The bold line in particular made me pee a bit.

@Prime, I think everyone played an 8 on 8 team deathmatch, and GBX controlled the aliens.

Ahh. I see. Then, that looked pretty cool, too. I can't wait to pwn get pwned by some of you guys.  :laugh:

I'm more in favor of a linear, cinematic story. That's just me.

GOD. I'm so f**king excited right now, guys. Holy Shit. I just watched all the videos in a row. Son of a bitch this is gonna be great.

The Aliens seems to "look" better than AVP2010, but their animations are so so so horrible compared to it. Happily it is wip.
disappointed anyway  :-\

This looks so much better than the E3 demo 2011. I am very excited!  :D

The graphics look great and while the animations are not polished, I wouldn't worry. They really are still working on the game and I feel confident that the finished product will be even better than this.

Quote from: Nero the Jackal on Apr 04, 2012, 02:59:46 PM
The aliens themselves look much better than the ones in the avp 2010 game but sadly, they still walk on all fours despite being human-spawned and their legs are dog-alien like instead of humanoid, this is what they looked like in the movie aliens.http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRYWlQAWLWUwrtgI3J-sjfz1uvmduPOeaPOvFKM3rEWmFs32-hsVQ (http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRYWlQAWLWUwrtgI3J-sjfz1uvmduPOeaPOvFKM3rEWmFs32-hsVQ)
and
http://www.flickr.com/photos/plasticfetish/3653200392/#in/photostream/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/plasticfetish/3653200392/#in/photostream/)
but as long as the game's story and gameplay are brilliant then i am ok with it. Though i still like to know how the hell is the complex still standing.

yeah that's killing me too. I though GB was gonna respect the old classic alien warrior too, and well..., you said everything already, and I add to your post how pathetically small the aliens are. It is really sad GB (like evrybody before them) sacrifice the imposing size of the human born alien just in the name of the balance, which is completely retarded because the aliens could be as huge as they always were (in the past) and still be deadly. Also, the one that is supposed to be the Giger's alien being even smaller and weaker (this mini-alien stalker)..., well, fail.

The game is looking nice, but those incredibly small aliens are a huge let down once more, to the point It affects very seriously the scary/imposing factor of, not only the aliens but the overall game.

They said it was still pre-pre-alpha stage, and animations were one thing they still really needed to work on.  Shouldn't be a deal by release.

This line made me almost faint, from the IGN article:

Quote"So, The Derelict," says Gearbox President Randy Pitchford, "that's a cool environment." He's speaking to IGN about multiplayer maps for Aliens: Colonial Marines.

Multiplayer modes on The Derelict map. So. Bloody. Awesome.  After Prometheus, playing CM in the Derelict is going to be just...

My body is ready.

Edit - Evac mode is pretty much confirmed in that article as well.  Hnng.  Right here:

Quote"Or, we've got to get from A to B and everything in between is trying to kill us," he says, summarizing the source material succinctly.

f**k yea, man! Watch Prometheus, then play a few matches in the Derelict map...\m/

I found something interesting. Borderlands 2 shotgun pump animations are the same as the ones in ACM. The idle gun animation while moving too  ;)

This game looks good and I'm really looking forward to it but still I'm not overwhelmed. The pulse rifle sounds a little weird to me, but I'm fine with that. It's good to see that there are multiple alien types you can play as and iron sights on the pulse rifle.  I hope there are more alien classes as well and i cant wait to see some alien gameplay! Also i think its great they have added 3rd person to the aliens.

Looks good! 

Left for Dead mulitplayer type?

I am ready to go.

Quote from: escroto on Apr 04, 2012, 03:22:29 PM

Quote from: Nero the Jackal on Apr 04, 2012, 02:59:46 PM
The aliens themselves look much better than the ones in the avp 2010 game but sadly, they still walk on all fours despite being human-spawned and their legs are dog-alien like instead of humanoid, this is what they looked like in the movie aliens.http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRYWlQAWLWUwrtgI3J-sjfz1uvmduPOeaPOvFKM3rEWmFs32-hsVQ (http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRYWlQAWLWUwrtgI3J-sjfz1uvmduPOeaPOvFKM3rEWmFs32-hsVQ)
and
http://www.flickr.com/photos/plasticfetish/3653200392/#in/photostream/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/plasticfetish/3653200392/#in/photostream/)
but as long as the game's story and gameplay are brilliant then i am ok with it. Though i still like to know how the hell is the complex still standing.

yeah that's killing me too. I though GB was gonna respect the old classic alien warrior too, and well..., you said everything already, and I add to your post how pathetically small the aliens are. It is really sad GB (like evrybody before them) sacrifice the imposing size of the human born alien just in the name of the balance, which is completely retarded because the aliens could be as huge as they always were (in the past) and still be deadly. Also, the one that is supposed to be the Giger's alien being even smaller and weaker (this mini-alien stalker)..., well, fail.

The game is looking nice, but those incredibly small aliens are a huge let down once more, to the point It affects very seriously the scary/imposing factor of, not only the aliens but the overall game.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdesmond.imageshack.us%2FHimg713%2Fscaled.php%3Fserver%3D713%26amp%3Bfilename%3Dscreenshot28318.jpg%26amp%3Bres%3Dmedium&hash=1add4abfa4695cc04b324c68570d5f777f539127)

The alien warriors look at least 7 ft. tall to me! How big should they be? I think they look pretty cool.

I hope it's just a beta cuz it looks messy.
The A.I. and the animations of the aliens are retarded.
The gunfire sounds like shit.
You can't kill the xeno while they're in the middle of an animation and that sucks.
It looks nothing like the developers promised us before, I hope they can work harder cuz this is definitely a game breaker in my eyes.

Yeah god the size thing again, please. ::)  What a dumb thing to nitpick.  They nailed the height perfectly, imo.  Any taller would look ridiculous, like Praetorian sized warriors running around the level.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.officialplaystationmagazine.co.uk%2Ffiles%2F2012%2F04%2FMultiplayer_Combat_Rev2_onlineS-610x400.jpg&hash=e4ecf4a1d319039370b5075273d9bb5cc7c372fd)

Quote from: Predaker on Apr 04, 2012, 03:41:29 PM

Quote from: escroto on Apr 04, 2012, 03:22:29 PM

Quote from: Nero the Jackal on Apr 04, 2012, 02:59:46 PM
The aliens themselves look much better than the ones in the avp 2010 game but sadly, they still walk on all fours despite being human-spawned and their legs are dog-alien like instead of humanoid, this is what they looked like in the movie aliens.http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRYWlQAWLWUwrtgI3J-sjfz1uvmduPOeaPOvFKM3rEWmFs32-hsVQ (http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRYWlQAWLWUwrtgI3J-sjfz1uvmduPOeaPOvFKM3rEWmFs32-hsVQ)
and
http://www.flickr.com/photos/plasticfetish/3653200392/#in/photostream/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/plasticfetish/3653200392/#in/photostream/)
but as long as the game's story and gameplay are brilliant then i am ok with it. Though i still like to know how the hell is the complex still standing.

yeah that's killing me too. I though GB was gonna respect the old classic alien warrior too, and well..., you said everything already, and I add to your post how pathetically small the aliens are. It is really sad GB (like evrybody before them) sacrifice the imposing size of the human born alien just in the name of the balance, which is completely retarded because the aliens could be as huge as they always were (in the past) and still be deadly. Also, the one that is supposed to be the Giger's alien being even smaller and weaker (this mini-alien stalker)..., well, fail.

The game is looking nice, but those incredibly small aliens are a huge let down once more, to the point It affects very seriously the scary/imposing factor of, not only the aliens but the overall game.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdesmond.imageshack.us%2FHimg713%2Fscaled.php%3Fserver%3D713%26amp%3Bfilename%3Dscreenshot28318.jpg%26amp%3Bres%3Dmedium&hash=1add4abfa4695cc04b324c68570d5f777f539127)

The alien warriors look at least 7 ft. tall to me! How big should they be? I think they look pretty cool.

Well the size didn't bother me, just their stance and legs which were for the same as dog alien, clone aliens and avp aliens instead of the original human-spawned ones found in alien and aliens which had a humanoid stance but their size if i recall was supposed to be 8ft for the warriors not 7ft.

I JUST f**kING CAME!!!!! 6 years of build up I just couldn't hold it :o

That must have been a pretty big load, UG6.  :laugh:

Quote from: HicksUSCM on Apr 04, 2012, 03:27:54 PM
I found something interesting. Borderlands 2 shotgun pump animations are the same as the ones in ACM. The idle gun animation while moving too  ;)

Now that you mentioned it, yeah, they do look similar.

Some really interesting information a lot of which clears up some questions we had already. Although there's a few issues overall with it that I seemed to find.

1)Aliens can't be killed during the special kill animations where they're mauling marines or whatever. That sucks flat-out. You should be able to save your buddies before they're killed.

2) Sounds. While some were spot on, the gunfire and Alien screams in particular I thought were pretty bad. Gunfire sounded fairly weak in areas, and Alien screams somewhat silly at times.

3)Animations for Aliens. No elaboration needed I guess, from what other people have said.

4)I saw a lot of dark areas in the MP level, but didn't see any flashlights being used by marines? (Might have missed it).

Overall, it was good, but like stated in the video comments section it seemed like a chore to play. The whole kill animation for Aliens against Marines seemed in particular to crap things up a bit. At the very least it should be changed to allow the player to stop it, whether by going over and pushing the Alien off his buddy, or by blasting it off, at a small cost of hp to the downed marine (Acid being dropped on the marine from dead Alien).

Just to note, I'm just pointing out the negative stuff I found in the hopes that some GBX employee might be reading this. There is a lot of good points I'm not mentioning like the correct Alien height, objective-based MP modes, graphics e.t.c.

I said it in another thread and I'll say it again:

I never doubted you, Gearbox. ;D

Quote from: Lone Warrior on Apr 04, 2012, 04:18:45 PM
Some really interesting information a lot of which clears up some questions we had already. Although there's a few issues overall with it that I seemed to find.

1)Aliens can't be killed during the special kill animations where they're mauling marines or whatever. That sucks flat-out. You should be able to save your buddies before they're killed.

2) Sounds. While some were spot on, the gunfire and Alien screams in particular I thought were pretty bad. Gunfire sounded fairly weak in areas, and Alien screams somewhat silly at times.

3)Animations for Aliens. No elaboration needed I guess, from what other people have said.

4)I saw a lot of dark areas in the MP level, but didn't see any flashlights being used by marines? (Might have missed it).

Overall, it was good, but like stated in the video comments section it seemed like a chore to play. The whole kill animation for Aliens against Marines seemed in particular to crap things up a bit. At the very least it should be changed to allow the player to stop it, whether by going over and pushing the Alien off his buddy, or by blasting it off, at a small cost of hp to the downed marine (Acid being dropped on the marine from dead Alien).

Just to note, I'm just pointing out the negative stuff I found in the hopes that some GBX employee might be reading this. There is a lot of good points I'm not mentioning like the correct Alien height, objective-based MP modes, graphics e.t.c.

I agree Lone Warrior, but I think most of this is due to the alpha stage of the game.  There were hardly any marines screaming when they were wounded or killed, and I'm sure they'll change that.

The kill animation for me is fine, though the Alien should be toast afterwards.  The way I see it, if you get pounced by an Alien, you should be dead no matter what happens.  Even if buddies shoot it off, you're taking an acid bath, and there would be no beating off of the alien, simply because they're too powerful, I think.

My one critique so far?  Get rid of that freaking buttstroke that stuns an Alien, Gearbox!  I don't want an unrealistic rifle-smash that can actually stun the most dangerous organism in the galaxy.  I mean they ram through plate steel with their heads and you can knock them silly with a little swipe from your gun?  Naw, man, don't make the AvP mistake. :laugh:

Quote from: RagingDragon on Apr 04, 2012, 04:38:52 PM
I agree Lone Warrior, but I think most of this is due to the alpha stage of the game.  There were hardly any marines screaming when they were wounded or killed, and I'm sure they'll change that.

The kill animation for me is fine, though the Alien should be toast afterwards.  The way I see it, if you get pounced by an Alien, you should be dead no matter what happens.  Even if buddies shoot it off, you're taking an acid bath, and there would be no beating off of the alien, simply because they're too powerful, I think.

My one critique so far?  Get rid of that freaking buttstroke that stuns an Alien, Gearbox!  I don't want an unrealistic rifle-smash that can actually stun the most dangerous organism in the galaxy.  I mean they ram through plate steel with their heads and you can knock them silly with a little swipe from your gun?  Naw, man, don't make the AvP mistake. :laugh:

I hope you're right about this being alpha stage. This game has a whole lot of potential, and with some simple adjustments it could make it even more awesome then it's already on the road to becoming.

About the melee that stuns an Alien, I'd imagine it's more for balance reasons more than anything. If an Alien can make mincemeat out of a Marine up close in seconds, it should only be fair to give the marine a chance to push it away quickly, similar again to the L4D style melee. Although if not implemented correctly it could spawn the same problem L4D had with it (spamming in a corner so enemies could never get near you). Perhaps a boot to the face of an Alien might be a suitable replacement to an elbow bash?

Looks great. I just hope it has lasting replay value.

Quote from: RagingDragon on Apr 04, 2012, 03:44:11 PMThey nailed the height perfectly, imo.  Any taller would look ridiculous

ROFLMAO :D, no comments to this.

Quote from: Nero the Jackal on Apr 04, 2012, 03:48:17 PMWell the size didn't bother me, just their stance and legs which were for the same as dog alien, clone aliens and avp aliens instead of the original human-spawned ones found in alien and aliens which had a humanoid stance but their size if i recall was supposed to be 8ft for the warriors not 7ft.

they are 8 foot tall (they were, when the aliens were aliens, not lolaliens like they are now). What you say about which is the second big problem is just the straw that broke the camel's back when It comes to make them look even smaller. Like you very well said, they have already a quadruped alien, the runner, and still make the human born aliens to go on their four all the time, making them to look like dwarves when they are on a distance.

I agree with you 100% there. Have you seen when they stand up in front of you in that gameplay (and in the older gameplay too of course)?, they look even smaller than you, way way smaller than you, a marine.

I can see the balance reasons, especially because it looks like the Aliens can kill marines in less than a second up-close.  A stamina thing that prevents multiple swings like L4D would be a possible solution.

I read in one of the interviews, maybe from Pitchford, that he said the game was technically still in pre-alpha?  They're also quite unsteady with their talk of release dates, but at this point I'm all for waiting longer as long as they continue to improve and polish the game.

It sucks having so many great games rushed out the door.  Nice to see a company take it's time, even though the circumstances are quite volatile with this particular title.  It's so hard to wait, but as long as the end product is a better game, most people would probably prefer that.

SLOOOOOOOOOW

Towards the end of the interview with Brian Burleson, he mentions that they listen to fan feedback from every time they release screenshots or videos, and that the feedback is important to them because they want to get it right.  :)

So if they are reading this, keep up the good work! The game still needs work but I am very pleased with the progress.  ;D

Status report on the E Grabbing thing. ChrisF responded to my question about it in gbx forums

QuoteOriginally Posted by CorporalHicks View Post
Hey Chris can you tell us if in the latest build this alien pounce on marine grab is interruptible? I though you guys realized from AvP 2010 that instant kill grab which can't be interrupted is not good decision :/ It will be WAY BETTER if we can be able to help our fellow marine being eaten alive.

Originally Posted by ChrisF View Post
It's not an instant kill. Your teammates have a chance to knock off a Xeno in that situation, but they have to act fast.

:) Hell yeah guys!

That GameSpy Preview reckons 2013 release date  :(

Quote:
"I personally can't imagine Colonial Marines making it out this year -- as Pitchford points out, Fall is already looking pretty crowded, and Gearbox itself has given Borderlands 2 a hard date of September 18th. And considering Colonial Marines is in a "pre-pre-alpha state" today, I'd imagine Colonial Marines might more realistically come out in March of 2013, well clear of the holiday competition from the Halos and Call of Duties. And if it gets just a few more months of polish out of the deal, so be it."

I seriously can't wait another year it's been so long already

No one can.

Quote from: chupacabras acheronsis on Apr 04, 2012, 05:30:46 PM
SLOOOOOOOOOW

I just watched the campaign video, had only been watching the competitive multiplayer over and over. :laugh:  Is that what you're talking about?

The xenos did seem pretty slow during the campaign.  Wish they were a little faster.

Marine A: "Kill me now..."

Marine B: "Okay."
              *ignites blow torch*

Marine A: "Not like that!"

Quote from: HicksUSCM on Apr 04, 2012, 05:54:04 PM
No one can.

At this point I'm pretty sure a lot of people can deal with a longer wait. It's already a bit of joke with al the delays, but if the game is good no is really going to care all that much and if it means it will help it sell better I can understand.

Might have been posted already, but here are the singleplayer bits without someone talking over them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n77evJ0YXZY#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n77evJ0YXZY#ws)

Quote from: escroto on Apr 04, 2012, 05:02:12 PM

Quote from: RagingDragon on Apr 04, 2012, 03:44:11 PMThey nailed the height perfectly, imo.  Any taller would look ridiculous

ROFLMAO :D, no comments to this.

Quote from: Nero the Jackal on Apr 04, 2012, 03:48:17 PMWell the size didn't bother me, just their stance and legs which were for the same as dog alien, clone aliens and avp aliens instead of the original human-spawned ones found in alien and aliens which had a humanoid stance but their size if i recall was supposed to be 8ft for the warriors not 7ft.

they are 8 foot tall (they were, when the aliens were aliens, not lolaliens like they are now).

You keep saying this, as if repeating it over and over will somehow make it true. :D

Newbeing, you should say this to the guy who was planing to play the game with his deadly sick friend who even didn't make it to the release so they will never be able to play the game together. There is no such thing as healthy delay. Broken game can be patched you know ;)

Quote from: Ultragamer6 on Apr 04, 2012, 05:52:29 PM
That GameSpy Preview reckons 2013 release date  :(

Quote:
"I personally can't imagine Colonial Marines making it out this year -- as Pitchford points out, Fall is already looking pretty crowded, and Gearbox itself has given Borderlands 2 a hard date of September 18th. And considering Colonial Marines is in a "pre-pre-alpha state" today, I'd imagine Colonial Marines might more realistically come out in March of 2013, well clear of the holiday competition from the Halos and Call of Duties. And if it gets just a few more months of polish out of the deal, so be it."

I seriously can't wait another year it's been so long already

Yeah that has killed it for me, I've waited so long for this. Why announce a Fall 2012 release time frame if they know they aren't going to make it?  ???  :-\

FFS!

Quote from: RagingDragon on Apr 04, 2012, 05:57:25 PM

Quote from: chupacabras acheronsis on Apr 04, 2012, 05:30:46 PM
SLOOOOOOOOOW

I just watched the campaign video, had only been watching the competitive multiplayer over and over. :laugh:  Is that what you're talking about?

The xenos did seem pretty slow during the campaign.  Wish they were a little faster.

xenos are okay, but the marines feel like they got their shoelaces tied. seriously, the sprint speed was at best a tad slower than the running speed in avp2.

Awesome!! I can't wait!

Quote from: Razz on Apr 04, 2012, 06:47:03 PM

Quote from: Ultragamer6 on Apr 04, 2012, 05:52:29 PM
That GameSpy Preview reckons 2013 release date  :(

Quote:
"I personally can't imagine Colonial Marines making it out this year -- as Pitchford points out, Fall is already looking pretty crowded, and Gearbox itself has given Borderlands 2 a hard date of September 18th. And considering Colonial Marines is in a "pre-pre-alpha state" today, I'd imagine Colonial Marines might more realistically come out in March of 2013, well clear of the holiday competition from the Halos and Call of Duties. And if it gets just a few more months of polish out of the deal, so be it."

I seriously can't wait another year it's been so long already

Yeah that has killed it for me, I've waited so long for this. Why announce a Fall 2012 release time frame if they know they aren't going to make it?  ???  :-\

FFS!

Woooooow, are you shitting me? God damnit.

Quote from: Xenomrph on Apr 04, 2012, 06:41:47 PMYou keep saying this, as if repeating it over and over will somehow make it true. :D

Look, this is an alien warrior. Have you ever seen one before?:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi39.tinypic.com%2Fw7kfau.jpg&hash=c8aa9eef776861c079a534948034d1c62e9cc283)Seven foot only eh?, ROFL

And look, this is the first alie,. Did you know about It
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.tinypic.com%2F2hycg0j.jpg&hash=2af37c03baf0e43a94cfc5d19486ac57cdd6afce)Note that in this pic the alien still isn't standing up completely, so imagine the size (like If that wasn't more that 7 feet already). Btw, compare It now with this new.., stalker was It?, yeah, they nailed the size again right?, please..., lol

Quote from: Razz on Apr 04, 2012, 06:47:03 PMYeah that has killed it for me, I've waited so long for this. Why announce a Fall 2012 release time frame if they know they aren't going to make it?  ???  :-\

FFS!

The game might still come out later this year. Sega rushed avp2010 before and is right now running into a lot of trouble (they have reported losses already for this year); it wouldn't surprise me they force GB to release another unfinished game like they did with Rebellion.

Anyway, the MP doesn't impress me too much. Let's wait and see what GB can deliver in the retail. Still some work to do, specially on those dwarf aliens.

Quote from: HicksUSCM on Apr 04, 2012, 06:46:02 PM
Newbeing, you should say this to the guy who was planing to play the game with his deadly sick friend who even didn't make it to the release so they will never be able to play the game together. There is no such thing as healthy delay. Broken game can be patched you know ;)

I did say that to him because that's a really stupid, crazy and frankly childish argument. If developers rushed to make a game because people die, no game would ever be released. That's like saying Prometheus should come out RIGHT NOW because any one of us could die any second. There are much more sensible arguments against long developments.

I don't think 5 delays is healthy.

Quote from: Prime113 on Apr 04, 2012, 07:44:57 PM
I don't think 5 delays is healthy.

Releasing a unfinished or unpolished project with the plans to patch it isn't either. Just look at Skyrim's backwards flying dragons, Mass Effect 3's face importation bug and AvPs poor balancing on consoles.

they really shouldn't have anounced either this or last one's delay. at least they could use this time to create a decent marketing scheme. Prometheus had viral, they could try jumping into this imaginary game too.

Quote from: newbeing on Apr 04, 2012, 07:52:41 PM

Quote from: Prime113 on Apr 04, 2012, 07:44:57 PM
I don't think 5 delays is healthy.

Releasing a unfinished or unpolished project with the plans to patch it isn't either. Just look at Skyrim's backwards flying dragons, Mass Effect 3's face importation bug and AvPs poor balancing on consoles.

There has always been glitches in games. And you think "Backward Flying Dragons" ruined Skyrim? Won Game of the year. Same thing with ME3.

Great to see some new info again for once. This was awesome preview and I guess that very big xenomorph is a praetorian?

Quote from: chupacabras acheronsis on Apr 04, 2012, 07:54:06 PM
they really shouldn't have anounced either this or last one's delay. at least they could use this time to create a decent marketing scheme. Prometheus had viral, they could try jumping into this imaginary game too.

I agree with this. They probably should have waited until the game was in a solid state before placing any release schedule on it. Similar to the "It's done when its done" stance valve took on Half-Life 2 and what appears to be there stance on Half-Life 3.

I can understand frustration with delays, but I guess it just don't bother me so much anymore. I'm just glad to see the ball rolling and to be finally hearing something about the game.

Quote from: newbeing on Apr 04, 2012, 07:52:41 PM
Just look at Skyrim's backwards flying dragons, Mass Effect 3's face importation bug and AvPs poor balancing on consoles.

Both games sold great. Fallout 3 was a buggy mess at its release but it sold well too. And now it can be played perfectly. As I said - bugs and polishing can be fixed with a few patches. But you can't bring back the lost fans. AvP 2010 is greatly playable now but do this increased the already lost player base? Exactly - no, it didn't.

The best time frame for ACM release is a few months after Prometheus. There is no point of delaying the game for 2013. Let's say I got over with the spring '12 delay, but delayed until 2013 is too much.

If the game was delayed, it is not because they want it as polished as possible.
Don't be naive  ::)
SEGA had problem with economy and all this crazy crysis.
This is why they intentionally canceled the Alien RPG.
If you don't pay a developer, they don't work on it.

So I'm guessing instead of "rushing" which is not that simple by the way, the game by putting 200 people on it working at the same time they favored a team of 20 - 50 developers to work on a largest amount of time while SEGA made income which could pay Gearbox.

Problems aren't unilateral and easy. Think of it.

---------------------------------------------

about this Alien size...
I'd rather an awesome gameplay than a total realistic Alien accurate.
Problem is both are lacking from the preview.

AVP2 was a good game and Map / skins / mods allowed the game lifespan to endure ten years even with server modification down. And all of this turned the game from Good (because of its action gameplay orientated) to awesome because everyone could find its tastes with whatever modifications and other extra.
And You all know that AVP2 had the most horrible lighting system, low polygon count, bad engine, wrong sized alien / predator and yet it didn't stop player to play it.

It's like bitch*n because in Left 4 Dead zombie hits you with their hands rather than eating you and so instant kill you.

Gameplay is above everything because that's what makes you play.

Quote from: newbeing on Apr 04, 2012, 07:52:41 PM

Quote from: Prime113 on Apr 04, 2012, 07:44:57 PM
I don't think 5 delays is healthy.

Releasing a unfinished or unpolished project with the plans to patch it isn't either. Just look at Skyrim's backwards flying dragons, Mass Effect 3's face importation bug and AvPs poor balancing on consoles.

I don't have a problem with delays as long as it benefits the game in development, what I (and I'm sure other people here aswell) do have a problem with is delaying it then giving it a rough estimate on when it is coming out (fall 2012) and now throw in another delay. I much rather they didn't announce a fall 2012 estimate in the first place just for sake of damage control from missing the spring 2012 estimate They should of just stick to their guns and not say a word until they were very confident they could get it out at a certain point and then give out a date. Its just infuriating and frustrating. :-\

Quote from: Razz on Apr 04, 2012, 08:17:23 PM

Quote from: newbeing on Apr 04, 2012, 07:52:41 PM

Quote from: Prime113 on Apr 04, 2012, 07:44:57 PM
I don't think 5 delays is healthy.

Releasing a unfinished or unpolished project with the plans to patch it isn't either. Just look at Skyrim's backwards flying dragons, Mass Effect 3's face importation bug and AvPs poor balancing on consoles.

I don't have a problem with delays as long as it benefits the game in development, what I (and I'm sure other people here aswell) do have a problem with is delaying it then giving it a rough estimate on when it is coming out (fall 2012) and now throw in another delay. I much rather they didn't announce a fall 2012 estimate and they just stick to their guns and not say a word until they were very confident they could get it out at a certain point and then give out a date. Its just infuriating and frustrating. :-\

^This. Its not necessarily that the game is coming out later than I hoped. Its just the constant "Ok, this is the release date - Ohp nevermind, its coming in fall - Ohp, nevermind again, it'll be sometime in 2013."

I would much rather have them say "Its finished when its finished".

Not sure if this video was posted. Some new game play footage in this one. It's in German.
Stay frosty people.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XgLs9Fr5XY#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XgLs9Fr5XY#ws)

Quote from: HicksUSCM on Apr 04, 2012, 08:02:56 PM

Quote from: newbeing on Apr 04, 2012, 07:52:41 PM
Just look at Skyrim's backwards flying dragons, Mass Effect 3's face importation bug and AvPs poor balancing on consoles.

Both games sold great. Fallout 3 was a buggy mess at its release but it sold well too. And now it can be played perfectly. As I said - bugs and polishing can be fixed with a few patches. But you can't bring back the lost fans. AvP 2010 is greatly playable now but do this increased the already lost player base? Exactly - no, it didn't.

The best time frame for ACM release is a few months after Prometheus. There is no point of delaying the game for 2013. Let's say I got over with the spring '12 delay, but delayed until 2013 is too much.

AvP 2010 lost players because the matchmaking and balancing was broken on release. Yeah they patched it out on PC, but patching on PCs is free. It cost the publishers $10,000 per patch per SKU, which is why Sega didn't bother with the consoles after a few patches. So yeah while it wasn't a massive game breaking bug it was probably one of the reasons why the player count in AvP sharply declined.

Patching games isn't so simple either as my point with the backwards flying dragons in skrym PS3, which were I believe caused by a previous patch. Also factor in that not everyone has the ability to get online and patch stuff in.

Either way I think we can all agree Delays suck, but sometimes things are delayed for a reason. And like Le Celticant said prior delays could have been due to Sega's money troubles. A developer isn't going to work on a game if they can't get paid. We're kind of speculating anyway. It could very well make its 2012 release, but as I've said the only release day I trust is the day where I have the game in my hand.

Is this really push back until next year? I'm getting so sick of waiting since we knew about this game since 2006! That was six f**king years ago! By 2013 it will be seven years since we knew about this game and I really have been waiting for a new game to play with my friends for a long time now with AVP being dead for over a year.

Nothing official yet. Sega's site still says fall 2012, but again that could change, but I feel like there has been a lot of goings on in the past few months with the voices for the game being recorded and Kevin Reipl tweeting that he's getting the orchestra ready to record the soundtrack. So things are moving. I can only imagine how much crunch Gearbox is doing now.

To be honest i don't mind the delays, its better to wait long for a well polished and patched game than get a rushed buggy, glitch-filled one sooner.

So cool, im so happy to see these images, footages its just AWE...no its not, just kidding starting to be unpatient.

First Contact Gameplay HD

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/first-contact-aliens-colonial/728781 (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/first-contact-aliens-colonial/728781)

Quote from: escroto on Apr 04, 2012, 07:31:02 PM

Quote from: Xenomrph on Apr 04, 2012, 06:41:47 PMYou keep saying this, as if repeating it over and over will somehow make it true. :D

Look, this is an alien warrior. Have you ever seen one before?:
http://i39.tinypic.com/w7kfau.jpgSeven foot only eh?, ROFL

And look, this is the first alie,. Did you know about It
http://i44.tinypic.com/2hycg0j.jpgNote that in this pic the alien still isn't standing up completely, so imagine the size (like If that wasn't more that 7 feet already). Btw, compare It now with this new.., stalker was It?, yeah, they nailed the size again right?, please..., lol

Quote from: Razz on Apr 04, 2012, 06:47:03 PMYeah that has killed it for me, I've waited so long for this. Why announce a Fall 2012 release time frame if they know they aren't going to make it?  ???  :-\

FFS!

The game might still come out later this year. Sega rushed avp2010 before and is right now running into a lot of trouble (they have reported losses already for this year); it wouldn't surprise me they force GB to release another unfinished game like they did with Rebellion.

Anyway, the MP doesn't impress me too much. Let's wait and see what GB can deliver in the retail. Still some work to do, specially on those dwarf aliens.

Those pictures compared to what I saw in the video game look pretty identical, as far as height comparisons go. I think that seeing the aliens run around on all fours reduces their height, obviously, but smaller targets are harder to hit. At least they aren't ankle biters!  :D Seriously though, the height is fine.

The pulse rifle sound needs more work, but I am sure they are playing around with different sounds to find the one that fits best.

Did anyone else notice the alien blood? It looks so much better now compared to the E3 2011 demo.

Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Apr 04, 2012, 08:38:23 PM
Is this really push back until next year? I'm getting so sick of waiting since we knew about this game since 2006! That was six f**king years ago! By 2013 it will be seven years since we knew about this game and I really have been waiting for a new game to play with my friends for a long time now with AVP being dead for over a year.

A game is only delayed if it is ready and finished.
It is not the case.

I re-write in an other manner what I should have make clear in first place (this is speculation, but I think to be wise enough to say "a part of the problem is due to the following thing"):

SEGA pay GEARBOX to develop, I'm sure nobody has problem to understand this.
[1] You pay a company one time and they hire / put to work hundreds of people to make a one year development with a deadline.
OR
[2] You pay month by month a company depending on your income if you don't have the money now.

SEGA has problem with income.
We know it better than anyone since an Alien RPG got canceled due to the economic crysis.
Plus SEGA announced they were canceling others game to focus on less this year.

I presume they use the way [2] with Gearbox which also explain why in many interviews it is referred to "a small team" working on Colonial Marines.
This guys are paid monthly. To pay them monthly you need to give them money.
I hardly see way [1] works because there would have money to pay for a full year and a bit more a crew of hundreds of people.

Now let's take the developer & Publisher side.
SEGA says: "Next 6 months I'm going to give ten time the money I gave you for this 6 months" which means they could hire a hundred of people this 6 months which will boost the speed of development.
Gearbox tell SEGA "then we won't took 1 year to develop it but 6 months".
PROBLEM, SEGA doesn't make good sales the last 6 months and are forced to pay several developers and ALIENS ain't their priority.
So they give the money to Gearbox to hire 20 men for the next 6 months and the statement saying "it'll be finished this year" becomes instantly FALSE.

At least I don't see how it could be otherwise.

Just added the screenshots and concept art (in the best quality available and with no watermarks) which we received from Sega. It includes their original filenames for those interested.

Looks to shape up everything AvP2010 could've/should've/would've been if Rebellion wasn't pressed to get it out the door that soon...

Not bad. Some things need fixing. The gun sounds and alien noises, the xenos sound like strangled raptors.

And for the person who said they saw a Praetorian, where did you see it?

THIS LOOKS AMAZING! I am more excited then ever now!

Quote from: skull-splitter on Apr 04, 2012, 10:29:32 PM
Looks to shape up everything AvP2010 could've/should've/would've been if Rebellion wasn't pressed to get it out the door that soon...

I'm sorry but it looks exactly like AVP2010 in a way:
-Can't interrupt "Trophy Kill" same in A:CM when an Alien grabs you, you can fire as much as you want but it won't die (so worse than AVP2010) and it won't stop the animation or just make the marine die by Acid.
-Smartgun through walls. Everyone was raging about it in AVP2010 but here in A:CM it seems fine to anyone. LOL?
-Grenades seems even weaker just like AVP2. So so so bad, inaccurate to movie and real life and just useless.
-Give a counter to an Alien so it stun it. LOL?
-Action packed attack instead of strategy according to MP demo (and that's pretty much the way I see the community play this game when it comes out).

Plus
-I haven't seen a marine crouch yet. I really hope we can otherwise it's going to be **********
-I hope we can swim and climb ladder and it ain't only in the campaign cos one stairs level are just so boring.

It is going to be better than AVP2010, no doubt.
But it won't be the so predicted and awaited game the oracle gave us as promise.

According to this video:  http://www.gamespot.com/aliens-colonial-marines-2012/videos/aliens-colonial-marines-wants-to-scare-the-piss-out-of-you-6369892/ (http://www.gamespot.com/aliens-colonial-marines-2012/videos/aliens-colonial-marines-wants-to-scare-the-piss-out-of-you-6369892/) 

It has not been delayed, and the actual release date will be announced soon....Atleast, that's what Randy Pitchford said.

That Alien AI looks seriously bad, it just runs straight for the player after it's scripted entrance. Didn't hold much hope for this anyway (Gearbox seem intent on f*cking the canon) but now it's just looking as bad as that other video that was supposed to be a "work in progress". At least AvP 2010 nailed the aliens AI.

Quote from: stemot on Apr 04, 2012, 10:54:36 PM
That Alien AI looks seriously bad, it just runs straight for the player after it's scripted entrance. Didn't hold much hope for this anyway (Gearbox seem intent on f*cking the canon) but now it's just looking as bad as that other video that was supposed to be a "work in progress". At least AvP 2010 nailed the aliens AI.

looooooool

It's definitely rough, but that's to be expected. Seeing as this fanbase, myself included, is the kind that likes to tear the devs new assholes if they don't nail all of our expectations, it makes sense it took them this long to show us what they have so far.

My only complaints are the sounds (weapons), the animations, xeno model, size, and again, the xeno blood. The first two things can be easily fixed, and the last three I can live with.

I haven't seen enough of the gameplay or AI to say if I like it. It looks way too fast paced, and a little generic at first glance.

I loved the lighting system and graphics.

ai bad
sounds bad
songs bad

....i havent got the aliens feeling

Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on Apr 05, 2012, 12:03:39 AM
It's definitely rough, but that's to be expected. Seeing as this fanbase, myself included, is the kind that likes to tear the devs new assholes if they don't nail all of our expectations, it makes sense it took them this long to show us what they have so far.

My only complaints are the sounds (weapons), the animations, xeno model, size, and again, the xeno blood. The first two things can be easily fixed, and the last three I can live with.

I haven't seen enough of the gameplay or AI to say if I like it. It looks way too fast paced, and a little generic at first glance.

I loved the lighting system and graphics.

Haha agree with you on all this stuff.

It's a little hard to gauge things when your looking at the game in little snippets.

The competitive multiplayer is pretty obviously rough, which isn't a totally bad thing in my mind. Probably better show people how its going now so we can get the bitching out of the way now and get some stuff fixed.

I have my qualms with some of the stuff I've seen and heard, but I'm going to hold my thoughts until after this weekend.

Does anyone else want to see them toss in predators to the multiplayer just for fun and diversity?

Only watched multiplayer but the game overall seems underwhelming, hopefully itll be better but it just looks so boring. And those animations are just terrible, I really want to like this game but I feel like it will just be a disappointment.

And no to the above post

Quote from: DemonicD13 on Apr 05, 2012, 12:19:16 AM
Does anyone else want to see them toss in predators to the multiplayer just for fun and diversity?

Step out of the vehicle, sir.
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Quote from: Le Celticant on Apr 04, 2012, 10:48:22 PM

Quote from: skull-splitter on Apr 04, 2012, 10:29:32 PM
Looks to shape up everything AvP2010 could've/should've/would've been if Rebellion wasn't pressed to get it out the door that soon...

I'm sorry but it looks exactly like AVP2010 in a way:
-Can't interrupt "Trophy Kill" same in A:CM when an Alien grabs you, you can fire as much as you want but it won't die (so worse than AVP2010) and it won't stop the animation or just make the marine die by Acid.
-Smartgun through walls. Everyone was raging about it in AVP2010 but here in A:CM it seems fine to anyone. LOL?
-Grenades seems even weaker just like AVP2. So so so bad, inaccurate to movie and real life and just useless.
-Give a counter to an Alien so it stun it. LOL?
-Action packed attack instead of strategy according to MP demo (and that's pretty much the way I see the community play this game when it comes out).

Plus
-I haven't seen a marine crouch yet. I really hope we can otherwise it's going to be **********
-I hope we can swim and climb ladder and it ain't only in the campaign cos one stairs level are just so boring.

It is going to be better than AVP2010, no doubt.
But it won't be the so predicted and awaited game the oracle gave us as promise.

ChrisF on the Gearbox forums confirmed that the "Trophy kill" system can in fact be interrupted, you just have to be fast.

The recent uploads of the game look much better than what we saw at E3 which means the game IS progressing.
The graphics look more polished and are pretty good if you ask me.
The gameplay seems very smooth.
Animations and AI need some work though, especially Xeno AI and Animations.

Quote from: DemonicD13 on Apr 05, 2012, 12:19:16 AM
Does anyone else want to see them toss in predators to the multiplayer just for fun and diversity?

No thanks!

i'm not too into the graphics. there's way too many lights but everything is still dark as shit. makes the eyes hurt. and while i do know that Cameron loves his Silvering and this is trying to be movie accurate, the washed out color is a bit overdone. at points i can't tell if certain objects have textures or not.

Quote from: newbeing on Apr 05, 2012, 12:12:37 AM

Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on Apr 05, 2012, 12:03:39 AM
It's definitely rough, but that's to be expected. Seeing as this fanbase, myself included, is the kind that likes to tear the devs new assholes if they don't nail all of our expectations, it makes sense it took them this long to show us what they have so far.

My only complaints are the sounds (weapons), the animations, xeno model, size, and again, the xeno blood. The first two things can be easily fixed, and the last three I can live with.

I haven't seen enough of the gameplay or AI to say if I like it. It looks way too fast paced, and a little generic at first glance.

I loved the lighting system and graphics.

Haha agree with you on all this stuff.

It's a little hard to gauge things when your looking at the game in little snippets.

The competitive multiplayer is pretty obviously rough, which isn't a totally bad thing in my mind. Probably better show people how its going now so we can get the bitching out of the way now and get some stuff fixed.

I have my qualms with some of the stuff I've seen and heard, but I'm going to hold my thoughts until after this weekend.

the human side of it is great the level design is flawless the bit of where you have to crawl up the boarding area that relays the sulacco and the other warship was so well done graphics and everything- so epic,
i know its in its infancy but its concerning to see it like this (you know i mean the aliens movement) zero fluidity
the sounds and everything are exactly from avp 2010 even a few from resurrection and avp #@$%%# :# so im guessing all this will be critiqued

and F*** me the score is awful
like b movie grade cheeseness :{
hope this was like a test to see how music fits into gameplay cause that was just pathetic

I believe in one of the interviews, they say most of the audio is just stand in. So, they will most likely go back and do a lot of over/officially.

Quote from: Prime113 on Apr 05, 2012, 01:35:17 AM
I believe in one of the interviews, they say most of the audio is just stand in. So, they will most likely go back and do a lot of over/officially.

they obviously are fixin the hell out of it because they removed the fins on the tail :D

Ahhh, there ya go, than. They will most likely fix the audio problems.

Quote from: tacksoap on Apr 05, 2012, 01:33:38 AM

and F*** me the score is awful
like b movie grade cheeseness :{
hope this was like a test to see how music fits into gameplay cause that was just pathetic

The music was from avp, too!!!
You know they won't be using it unless you're talking about a different part then what I'm thinking of. Watch the old old trailer and have your faith restored.

Not much, but definitely something.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjY7yFMEk-c#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjY7yFMEk-c#ws)

Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on Apr 05, 2012, 01:45:47 AM

Quote from: tacksoap on Apr 05, 2012, 01:33:38 AM

and F*** me the score is awful
like b movie grade cheeseness :{
hope this was like a test to see how music fits into gameplay cause that was just pathetic

The music was from avp, too!!!
You know they won't be using it unless you're talking about a different part then what I'm thinking of. Watch the old old trailer and have your faith restored.

Not much, but definitely something.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjY7yFMEk-c#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjY7yFMEk-c#ws)

That is better than the original demo I saw. thanks for sharing lol

I am ready for this game!  :D

I'm going to guess like the voice over the music is placeholder. The composer for the game Kevin Riepl (Gears of War) only tweeted a week or so ago that he was in the process of getting the orchestra ready to record his score.

kevinrieplmusic ‏ @kevinrieplmusic

Quoteprepping all my music from back in 2007-08-09 that was written for a certain xeno game. need to get ALL ready for orch...VERY SOON

kevinrieplmusic ‏ @kevinrieplmusic

Quoteit is rampin' up baby. orchestra dates set and everything. that notable 'ping' is getting closer and closer! #ACM @gearboxsoftware
12:59 PM - 28 Mar 12

I feel like having an actual score will probably improve the overall mood in the game.

It'll definitely help. Dead space with music off is like playing a ****ed up version of resident evil 5 that's hard to see.

While apparently still in progress, all I can do is judge what we have now before us.

Liked the fluidity of the graphics, but of course, there's no way to tell what peoples' individual experiences with their own system shall be.

Canon looks to be in a relatively tattered state: Blue motion tracker contacts for friends and reds for unknowns? Why not have it like the film portrayed? Filtering away friendlies and only showing unknowns. Likewise - why in the world are handguns able to kill Aliens? For all the hyping about supposedly being authentic, these two points are glaringly obvious.

I realise the handguns thing is an artificial balancer, but all they have to do is design the product around a sufficient number of squad-mates able to cue their weapons on a target in front of you when you need to reload. At best, a handgun could be portrayed as giving disorientation - only ever lethal when at point-blank range and giving repeated hits (yes, this would up the difficulty considerably; but that way you realise the whole point of why you'd need a lot of squad mates with you and why guns versus Aliens isn't the radically awesome experience so many fan-boys dream about).

Pulse rifle sounds need replacing.

Aliens need to stop sounding like frogs upon dying.

The 'boss' Alien is horrid. There was never any reason for it and seeing it in action makes it look like an absolute waste of development time on an unnecessary character. It just slowly bounds around like a buffalo with sharp teeth.

Stock animations need diversity. At one point, three Colonial Marines were on the floor, trying to fend off Aliens and all their 'flailing around' animations seemed to synchronise up perfectly.

Quote from: HicksUSCM on Apr 04, 2012, 06:46:02 PM
Newbeing, you should say this to the guy who was planing to play the game with his deadly sick friend who even didn't make it to the release so they will never be able to play the game together. There is no such thing as healthy delay. Broken game can be patched you know ;)

While that is rather tragic, what you say at the end makes no business sense. A literally broken game will do little more than gain apathy, at best. Massively negative review scores, severely lacking sales and even potential lawsuits, at worst.

Your friend would have only been in for severe disappointment and frustration if all you did was try to play a glitch-ridden mess together.

this is the game we've all been waiting for.   

Quote from: Le Celticant on Apr 04, 2012, 10:48:22 PM


I'm sorry but it looks exactly like AVP2010 in a way:
-Can't interrupt "Trophy Kill" same in A:CM when an Alien grabs you, you can fire as much as you want but it won't die

Actually you can. ChrisF confirmed it.

The pulse rifle sound is driving me up the f**king wall just watching the mp trailer. And the aliens are invulnerable while killing someone? Smartgun muzzle flash looks like its been done in MS Paint.

Hope these things will change before release.

zomg!!!

aliens vs marines multiplayer!

i hope theirs a survival mode like in avp2.

the graphics look nice, better than i expected.
only thing this game needs is predators.

must agree though, the e-grab needs to go. especially because it seems the aliens are invincible while in the animation.

Quote from: MicroN on Apr 05, 2012, 06:54:53 AM
Smartgun muzzle flash looks like its been done in MS Paint.

If I had spent more time learning about older rendering techniques, I might be able to say with confidence that they're using sprites for filler.

Basically a 2D image always oriented towards you if I understand correctly. Same thing happened when we saw the first gameplay over half a year ago--except it was with the aliens' blood, which is 3d now, but looks very messy still.

Quote from: [T)A]DarkDragon on Apr 05, 2012, 07:27:34 AM
only thing this game needs is predators.

O f**k NO

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Quote from: [T)A]DarkDragon on Apr 05, 2012, 07:27:34 AM
only thing this game needs is predators.

O f**k NO

Quote from: [T)A]DarkDragon on Apr 05, 2012, 07:27:34 AM

only thing this game needs is predators.

NO!!!!!! The game is called ALIENS: COLONIAL MARINES for a god damn reason. Go away with this childish preds. No one likes them. In the movie they are fine but in every game they are op. In AvP games the most played modes are the ones with aliens vs marines only.

QuoteAsk anyone about the old Aliens vs. Predator PC shooter and a strange trend emerges; discussion surrounding the Predator is almost nonexistent. Tension between the Marine and Alien teams brought about unforgettable stories for the water cooler.

THIS!!!!

Quote from: HicksUSCM on Apr 05, 2012, 09:15:58 AM

Quote from: [T)A]DarkDragon on Apr 05, 2012, 07:27:34 AM

only thing this game needs is predators.

NO!!!!!! The game is called ALIENS: COLONIAL MARINES for a god damn reason. Go away with this childish preds. No one likes them. In the movie they are fine but in every game they are op. In AvP games the most played modes are the ones with aliens vs marines only.

QuoteAsk anyone about the old Aliens vs. Predator PC shooter and a strange trend emerges; discussion surrounding the Predator is almost nonexistent. Tension between the Marine and Alien teams brought about unforgettable stories for the water cooler.

THIS!!!!

Yet the two best game of both licenses are?
AVP and AVP2  :D (yeah yeah my tastes and colors, but as Kant said, the beauty if universal.  ;D )
And Predator wasn't good in every game because the developer never caught the spirit of it with the gameplay it deserves as a stealthy hunter.
I strongly advise you to play AJL Mod Release 3.0 a mod for AVP2 which give justice to Predator and the way it should be played.

Quotethis is the game we've all been waiting for.   

No:
A smartgun that track through walls, a Stealth kill animation that can't be stopped, inaccurate things to the ALIENS universe while Gearbox claim to want it as perfect as possible while doing the worse mistakes ever (because previous game did okay like MT or even repeated the same mistake all over again and again and again in every game such as pulse rifle sound)
When AVP2010 cames out EVERYBODY was laming about this and now when it is in A:CM, it's like "oh we forgive you gearbox, you just did the most broken gameplay thing again but it's fine, we accept it since it is from you and you said you want to please alien fans and be as close as the original as possible" just like Paul anderson said for AVP, like the Strause brother did for AVP requiem or Rebellion who was saying they are true to source material.

The only thing I've expected from all the games was a SDK.
And only AVP and AVP2 had one release.

One day, I hope you'll learn from your mistakes... honestly.

Quotewhy in the world are handguns able to kill Aliens?

Because they can, remember vasquez?  :laugh: handguns have been in all games if i recall and while difficult to kill an alien with, it is possible.

Gearbox upgraded many things from E3 demo.
And look at that graphic details. ;D

Quote from: [USCM]Winter on Apr 05, 2012, 01:10:41 PM
Gearbox upgraded many things from E3 demo.
And look at that graphic details. ;D

Indeed. Though, I found my self liking the look of the Pulse Rifle more in the E3 demo than in what we got yesterday.

From what I've seen, and in my opinion, the game looks worlds better than the last demo we saw. 

A couple things that I don't like.  The sounds, like others have mentioned, aren't spot on.  They need to be, no excuses.  The pulse rifle sounds bizarre.  I see what they're trying to do with the pitch changing... but it's not sounding right. 

I can't quite hear the smart gun... I want to say it sort of sounds like the movie, but I'm not sure.  It NEEDS to sound like the movie.  I don't know why so many versions of this gun have a completely innaccurate sound, but I'll be very disappointed if ACM doesn't nail it.  Also, i don't think it should allow you to see through walls, but consider this - when Drake/Vasquez are using the smart gun, they have one eye closed.  I'm assuming this is so they can see what the gun is picking up.  Perhaps that should be integrated into the game.  You can toggle having one eye closed (via alt fire) and what you see on screen would reflect this.

The alien blood looks much better (in campaign, NOT in MP) but seems to dissipate in the air?  Why?  When aliens are killed they make a mess!  Hopefully this is adjusted.

Main, and biggest gripe... the motion tracker.  Red dots?  No... just no.  They weren't red in the movie, they shouldn't be red here.  Also, they shouldn't even be dots!  In the movie, the object being picked up almost appears cell-like on the tracker.  As there are more objects picked up, these cell-like objects begin to connect forming a mass.  Why hasn't a single aliens game reflected this?  I was fine with this back when the original AVP came out, but that was 1999.  It's been 13 years, fix the tracker please.  Also please make the tracker audible whether the marine is holding it up or not.

Lastly, I'd be willing to bet GB is reading these forums for feedback (the sail tail is gone, isn't it?) so I think it's great we keep the constructive criticism coming, but let's try not to be too negative.  These guys are clearly excited about the project and working really hard.  When the final product comes out, it's not going to be Aliens.  Nothing is ever going to be Aliens except Aliens and our expectations should take this fact into consideration.  I thought about it, and with this much build up, there's a HUGE chance I'll initially be disappointed with ACM which is why I'm going to spend some solid game time with it before I offer an opinion.

QuoteAnd Predator wasn't good in every game because the developer never caught the spirit of it with the gameplay it deserves as a stealthy hunter.
I strongly advise you to play AJL Mod Release 3.0 a mod for AVP2 which give justice to Predator and the way it should be played.

So I need to install a mod so it justifies the predator? So many things wrong that statement. All the AVP games can do without the predator...all the AVP movies aswell.

aka...they should have never crossed the two franchises. Like drinking fine wine with a happy meal. Predator almost killed the alien franchise, lets never let that happen again. The two DONT mix. Period. They should have kept it with the cheesy crossover darkhorse comics, nothing more.

Predator stand-alone was good fun, and I enjoyed the last "Predators" movie. But the pred itself doesnt belong in the alien franchise.

What are you talking about? Its the Alien that doesn't belong in the Predator Universe. Period.

Spoiler

Quote from: Hemi on Apr 05, 2012, 02:34:48 PM

QuoteAnd Predator wasn't good in every game because the developer never caught the spirit of it with the gameplay it deserves as a stealthy hunter.
I strongly advise you to play AJL Mod Release 3.0 a mod for AVP2 which give justice to Predator and the way it should be played.

So I need to install a mod so it justifies the predator? So many things wrong that statement. All the AVP games can do without the predator...all the AVP movies aswell.

aka...they should have never crossed the two franchises. Like drinking fine wine with a happy meal. Predator almost killed the alien franchise, lets never let that happen again. The two DONT mix. Period. They should have kept it with the cheesy crossover darkhorse comics, nothing more.

Predator stand-alone was good fun, and I enjoyed the last "Predators" movie. But the pred itself doesnt belong in the alien franchise.

You're not smart.
I said "IF YOU WANT TO SEE HOW A PREDATOR GAMEPLAY HAS BEEN HANDLE WELL AND THAT IS POSSIBLE, GO PLAY AJL R3".
There's no justification, I'm not giving opinions on "why da heck predator is in Alien universe or whatever" that retarded fanboy attitude is really out of place.

No Alien or Predator belonged so far in other franchise.
They made a new one called "AVP".

You're the kind of guy who lame lame lame but if we tell you that both AVP could have been either an Alien or a Predator movie with only humans going into a pyramid in antartica or fighting Aliens in guninson because a Space Jockey ship would have crashed you would have had an heart attack.

Wake up pink bear, this ain't dadadaland with things that goes in an unilateral sense where everything is so easy to understand and deal with.

[close]

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And concerning the pulse rifle I remember saying several times on this forum that it IS SURE they DON'T OWN THE COPYRIGHTS so you'll never ever ever ever ever get it in a release game but as MOD.

Think a little.  :-\

Quote from: Prime113 on Apr 05, 2012, 02:36:29 PM
What are you talking about? Its the Alien that doesn't belong in the Predator Universe. Period.

Lol.... Pred's universe is way too poor compared to the alien one. You can't create a whole universe from just 2 movies.

Quote from: HicksUSCM on Apr 05, 2012, 02:48:23 PM

Quote from: Prime113 on Apr 05, 2012, 02:36:29 PM
What are you talking about? Its the Alien that doesn't belong in the Predator Universe. Period.

Lol.... Pred's universe is way too poor compared to the alien one. You can't create a whole universe from just 2 movies.

:laugh: Yeah, I agree, the Alien universe is much richer than the Predator one. I was just kinda trollin' lol. And, there are 3 Predator movies.  :)

Enough with the Predator discussion guys. Please stay on topic. Any further off-topics posts will be removed.

Sorry, Ikarop. My bad.

What other news will come from the weekend? I've seen a few people say "I'll wait and see what happens over the weekend."

PAX East is going on, and there will be more multiplayer action and other videos probably.  They also said something about revealing more about the multiplayer and the game overall.  Should be exciting shit! :laugh:

I'll be going to PAX east this weekend and will hopefully get to attend the Panel on Sunday. I'm going to try to talk with people from Sega and Gearbox. If anything new or interesting comes up I'll do my best to give updates and impressions, but I'm sure there will probably be a lot of press stuff going on as well.

Tonks from the Gearbox forums  will also be attending.

Awesome.  I lurk over there a lot as well.  Excited to see what you guys get, have fun!

Tonks (Husky at our forums) will be doing an exclusive write up for AvPGalaxy about PAX East and A:CM. He also will be providing all of us with pictures and info throughout the weekend. Even got him on Sega's list actually. In short, we all will be trying our best to give people the best online coverage of PAX East :).

Could there be some more new material this weekend then, or just what we've seen already but played by some of the guys who post here

Quote from: ikarop on Apr 05, 2012, 03:58:04 PM
Tonks (Husky at our forums) will be doing an exclusive write up for AvPGalaxy about PAX East and A:CM. He also will be providing all of us with pictures and info throughout the weekend. Even got him on Sega's list actually. In short, we all will be trying our best to give people the best online coverage of PAX East :).

Nice. I can't wait to see what they have for a set up.

I hope we get to see female marines.  :)

Quote from: Prime113 on Apr 05, 2012, 02:51:12 PM

Quote from: HicksUSCM on Apr 05, 2012, 02:48:23 PM

Quote from: Prime113 on Apr 05, 2012, 02:36:29 PM
What are you talking about? Its the Alien that doesn't belong in the Predator Universe. Period.

Lol.... Pred's universe is way too poor compared to the alien one. You can't create a whole universe from just 2 movies.

:laugh: Yeah, I agree, the Alien universe is much richer than the Predator one. I was just kinda trollin' lol. And, there are 3 Predator movies.  :)

I don't count Predators as part of the Pred universe movies.

Non offtopic: about the guy who said there is no crouching. There is, I found it at one of the screenshots posted by Ikarop -> https://photos-1.dropbox.com/i/xl/3eEgwD1xfzg9QYdu4R2Jel8LgZaaw4IwYjpdOTw6tls,962AguFGrLt7PzFoQhtaYrYRWvBUJ5APqGOI6eLyXME/2561706/1333735200/7e941c2/26354Multiplayer_Combat_Rev2_online.jpg look to the right, you will see marine in crouch position  ;)

Quote from: HicksUSCM on Apr 05, 2012, 05:18:50 PM

Quote from: Prime113 on Apr 05, 2012, 02:51:12 PM

Quote from: HicksUSCM on Apr 05, 2012, 02:48:23 PM

Quote from: Prime113 on Apr 05, 2012, 02:36:29 PM
What are you talking about? Its the Alien that doesn't belong in the Predator Universe. Period.

Lol.... Pred's universe is way too poor compared to the alien one. You can't create a whole universe from just 2 movies.

:laugh: Yeah, I agree, the Alien universe is much richer than the Predator one. I was just kinda trollin' lol. And, there are 3 Predator movies.  :)

I don't count Predators as part of the Pred universe movies.  ;)

Not to stray far off topic but when you are not busy, can you send me a private message explaining what you mean? Im not trying to start a debate, just curious.

Thanks
-Predaker

Quote from: HicksUSCM on Apr 05, 2012, 05:18:50 PM

Quote from: Prime113 on Apr 05, 2012, 02:51:12 PM

Quote from: HicksUSCM on Apr 05, 2012, 02:48:23 PM

Quote from: Prime113 on Apr 05, 2012, 02:36:29 PM
What are you talking about? Its the Alien that doesn't belong in the Predator Universe. Period.

Lol.... Pred's universe is way too poor compared to the alien one. You can't create a whole universe from just 2 movies.

:laugh: Yeah, I agree, the Alien universe is much richer than the Predator one. I was just kinda trollin' lol. And, there are 3 Predator movies.  :)

I don't count Predators as part of the Pred universe movies.

Non offtopic: about the guy who said there is no crouching. There is, I found it at one of the screenshots posted by Ikarop -> https://photos-1.dropbox.com/i/xl/3eEgwD1xfzg9QYdu4R2Jel8LgZaaw4IwYjpdOTw6tls,962AguFGrLt7PzFoQhtaYrYRWvBUJ5APqGOI6eLyXME/2561706/1333735200/7e941c2/26354Multiplayer_Combat_Rev2_online.jpg look to the right, you will see marine in crouch position  ;)

:o Who says there were no crouching?
And in the picture, it's an AI that crouch I believe (at least the picture looks very cinematic) and AI in AVP2010 could also crouch but player couldn't.

I can't remember the nickname but someone in the previous pages said there is no crouch. You can't be sure if this is an AI or actual player ;)

It's looking good, but the Pulse Rifle and Smart Gun sfx are wrong and need to be fixed. They sound terrible.

We also now have undeniable proof the Alien Warriors are indeed... wait for it... TOO SMALL. AGAIN. >:( I'd like to take this moment and just say, TOLD YOU SO. :P

What happened to GB's commitment to making A:CM an authentic Aliens experience? The sfx are jacked and, yet again, the Aliens are stunted cannon fodder. ???

Other than that, the gfx look superb and I'm digging the game-play mechanics.

I can let the Smart Gun's targeting system slide as keeping it canonically accurate would render it useless (the targeting system - not the weapon itself). Since it tracks heat signatures and Aliens don't give off heat, you'd be at a big disadvantage lugging that big thing around with quick and nimble Aliens hunting you.

Quote from: Le Celticant on Apr 05, 2012, 06:11:23 PM

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Quote from: HicksUSCM on Apr 05, 2012, 02:48:23 PM

Quote from: Prime113 on Apr 05, 2012, 02:36:29 PM
What are you talking about? Its the Alien that doesn't belong in the Predator Universe. Period.

Lol.... Pred's universe is way too poor compared to the alien one. You can't create a whole universe from just 2 movies.

:laugh: Yeah, I agree, the Alien universe is much richer than the Predator one. I was just kinda trollin' lol. And, there are 3 Predator movies.  :)

I don't count Predators as part of the Pred universe movies.

Non offtopic: about the guy who said there is no crouching. There is, I found it at one of the screenshots posted by Ikarop -> https://photos-1.dropbox.com/i/xl/3eEgwD1xfzg9QYdu4R2Jel8LgZaaw4IwYjpdOTw6tls,962AguFGrLt7PzFoQhtaYrYRWvBUJ5APqGOI6eLyXME/2561706/1333735200/7e941c2/26354Multiplayer_Combat_Rev2_online.jpg look to the right, you will see marine in crouch position  ;)

:o Who says there were no crouching?
And in the picture, it's an AI that crouch I believe (at least the picture looks very cinematic) and AI in AVP2010 could also crouch but player couldn't.

You CAN crouch, they already said it.

Quote from: Bio Mech Hunter on Apr 05, 2012, 11:09:27 PM
It's looking good, but the Pulse Rifle and Smart Gun sfx are wrong and need to be fixed. They sound terrible.

We also now have undeniable proof the Alien Warriors are indeed... wait for it... TOO SMALL. AGAIN. >:( I'd like to take this moment and just say, TOLD YOU SO. :P

What happened to GB's commitment to making A:CM an authentic Aliens experience? The sfx are jacked and, yet again, the Aliens are stunted cannon fodder. ???

Other than that, the gfx look superb and I'm digging the game-play mechanics.

I can let the Smart Gun's targeting system slide as keeping it canonically accurate would render it useless (the targeting system - not the weapon itself). Since it tracks heat signatures and Aliens don't give off heat, you'd be at a big disadvantage lugging that big thing around with quick and nimble Aliens hunting you.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1228.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee450%2Fpoisonstrudel%2Faliens-colonial-marines-20120403083624100_640w.jpg&hash=5f0bbf86642b3cd00b726571b14307bb779ac41f)

That size looks about right to me, and as for the Alien being CF, it looks like when online they can kill you in up to 2 hits.

i'm kinda pissed off they waited to show us this beta to unveil the stalker alien. it deserves more attention, after all, it's everyone's favorite alien...

think we will be able to hack doors and weld them back up in multiplayer???

Quote from: 9th_Stew on Apr 06, 2012, 08:25:12 AM
think we will be able to hack doors and weld them back up in multiplayer???

Well considering you can do that in Killing Floor I bloody hope so.

I'm kind worried too about the movement which doesn't seem very fluid on the aliens. I read some some pages before, I think in this topic, a member saying this was a pre-pre-alpha state of the game , when I though that was the E3 demo tbh. If the first is true then we should expect an improvement on that very important area too.

This guy also said this all could be because what we've seen on a console, all because those damn 30 or less FPS, but I don't think that's still the case.

Also, red dots kill MT immersion soo much..., seriously, f**k the casual.

Quote from: PVTDukeMorrison on Apr 06, 2012, 04:35:07 AM

Quote from: Bio Mech Hunter on Apr 05, 2012, 11:09:27 PM
It's looking good, but the Pulse Rifle and Smart Gun sfx are wrong and need to be fixed. They sound terrible.

We also now have undeniable proof the Alien Warriors are indeed... wait for it... TOO SMALL. AGAIN. >:( I'd like to take this moment and just say, TOLD YOU SO. :P

What happened to GB's commitment to making A:CM an authentic Aliens experience? The sfx are jacked and, yet again, the Aliens are stunted cannon fodder. ???

Other than that, the gfx look superb and I'm digging the game-play mechanics.

I can let the Smart Gun's targeting system slide as keeping it canonically accurate would render it useless (the targeting system - not the weapon itself). Since it tracks heat signatures and Aliens don't give off heat, you'd be at a big disadvantage lugging that big thing around with quick and nimble Aliens hunting you.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1228.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee450%2Fpoisonstrudel%2Faliens-colonial-marines-20120403083624100_640w.jpg&hash=5f0bbf86642b3cd00b726571b14307bb779ac41f)

That size looks about right to me, and as for the Alien being CF, it looks like when online they can kill you in up to 2 hits.

You do know that the guy with the smart gun is not standing up straight right?

perhaps it's merely a matter of perspective

Not had chance to read the articles yet but liking the footage. The SP looks like it's going to be very pretty. Looks very faithful to the style and tone of the movies and their art direction. The MP, wasn't sure if I was watching a Survivor mode or not to start with. Glad to see they've kept animated kills in there, very big fan of them. Would have loved to have seen some from the Alien player perspective.

Quote from: Nero the Jackal on Apr 06, 2012, 11:08:46 AM

Quote from: PVTDukeMorrison on Apr 06, 2012, 04:35:07 AM

Quote from: Bio Mech Hunter on Apr 05, 2012, 11:09:27 PM
It's looking good, but the Pulse Rifle and Smart Gun sfx are wrong and need to be fixed. They sound terrible.

We also now have undeniable proof the Alien Warriors are indeed... wait for it... TOO SMALL. AGAIN. >:( I'd like to take this moment and just say, TOLD YOU SO. :P

What happened to GB's commitment to making A:CM an authentic Aliens experience? The sfx are jacked and, yet again, the Aliens are stunted cannon fodder. ???

Other than that, the gfx look superb and I'm digging the game-play mechanics.

I can let the Smart Gun's targeting system slide as keeping it canonically accurate would render it useless (the targeting system - not the weapon itself). Since it tracks heat signatures and Aliens don't give off heat, you'd be at a big disadvantage lugging that big thing around with quick and nimble Aliens hunting you.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1228.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee450%2Fpoisonstrudel%2Faliens-colonial-marines-20120403083624100_640w.jpg&hash=5f0bbf86642b3cd00b726571b14307bb779ac41f)

That size looks about right to me, and as for the Alien being CF, it looks like when online they can kill you in up to 2 hits.

You do know that the guy with the smart gun is not standing up straight right?

You do know that the alien is not standing up straight right?

It is standing more straighter than the marine and since its legs are like the runner's then it is more or less standing near as straight as it can. GB has made no effort at all to use the original stances and leg designs of both the xeno from alien and aliens.

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 06, 2012, 12:15:45 PM
The MP, wasn't sure if I was watching a Survivor mode or not to start with.

No, this was TDM mode.

Quote from: Nero the Jackal on Apr 06, 2012, 11:08:46 AMYou do know that the guy with the smart gun is not standing up straight right?

Neither is the Alien... they both have bent knees.

If the humans can weld doors in MP, will the aliens be able to tear through "inches of reinforced steel?" Or maybe use their heads as battering rams to break them down?

Who cares about how it looks in a photo.  When you watch video gameplay the alien is actually smaller then the human.  Very lame.

Quote from: Spoon on Apr 06, 2012, 04:45:56 PM
Who cares about how it looks in a photo.  When you watch video gameplay the alien is actually smaller then the human.  Very lame.

That is gameplay

It's not...

I wonder if this game will support DX11?

Quote from: CyberDemon13 on Apr 06, 2012, 05:48:45 PM
It's not...

Actually it is.

Quote from: HicksUSCM on Apr 06, 2012, 06:03:44 PM

Quote from: CyberDemon13 on Apr 06, 2012, 05:48:45 PM
It's not...

Actually it is.

It's very obviously a posed shot. It's not literally gameplay in that shot. In game assets, in game environment, posed shot.

Quote from: PVTDukeMorrison on Apr 06, 2012, 04:35:07 AM

Quote from: Bio Mech Hunter on Apr 05, 2012, 11:09:27 PM
It's looking good, but the Pulse Rifle and Smart Gun sfx are wrong and need to be fixed. They sound terrible.

We also now have undeniable proof the Alien Warriors are indeed... wait for it... TOO SMALL. AGAIN. >:( I'd like to take this moment and just say, TOLD YOU SO. :P

What happened to GB's commitment to making A:CM an authentic Aliens experience? The sfx are jacked and, yet again, the Aliens are stunted cannon fodder. ???

Other than that, the gfx look superb and I'm digging the game-play mechanics.

I can let the Smart Gun's targeting system slide as keeping it canonically accurate would render it useless (the targeting system - not the weapon itself). Since it tracks heat signatures and Aliens don't give off heat, you'd be at a big disadvantage lugging that big thing around with quick and nimble Aliens hunting you.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1228.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee450%2Fpoisonstrudel%2Faliens-colonial-marines-20120403083624100_640w.jpg&hash=5f0bbf86642b3cd00b726571b14307bb779ac41f)

That size looks about right to me, and as for the Alien being CF, it looks like when online they can kill you in up to 2 hits.

It's hard to tell in that pic 'cause you can't see either of their feet placement and the Marine is not standing up straight. It might be a perspective issue in that pic, but if you watch the recent multi-player footage, you see the Warriors are definitely too thin and too short. Not enough height, and not enough mass.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVkAKknz-F8#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVkAKknz-F8#ws)

I don't think the xenos are too small, I've said that already :laugh: but at the same time I'm not against bigger models.  I think the height doesn't bother me, but they are incredibly skinny.  They seemed a bit more jacked in Aliens.

Still, it's not really going to effect the experience as long as they act like xenomorphs, for me at least.  I just want them to be scary as hell.

They look better skinny. Couldn't really be that way in the movies cause they were guys in costumes.

the puppets weren't that skinny.

it's mostly the abdomens, they shouldn't carve in like if they were anorexic. that's characteristic of the ADI aliens.

The shoulders aren't the right one also.
I would just scale a "bit" up the overall size but not too much as accurate to the movie.
Otherwise we would have big things taking the whole corridors. Too easy target.

i'd fix the shape of the back spines myself. they need to be bendy, not straight. the position isn't right but i'll let it pass because it does good to the stature and it facilitates the position of the head when crawling.

Interesting, Le Celticant, maybe GBX made them a bit smaller on purpose to help make them harder to hit.

Probably not, but it's a remote possibility. :laugh:  Personally I find it scarier, since they can still jump on you and rape you to death.  Spike seemed a bit smaller in A3, maybe it's just me, or the lack of dorsal tubes.  I remember the runner in AvP2 was small, so was the warrior, but he stood up like a human and had a cool running animation.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpobierz.pl%2Fdata%2Fgallery%2F1172501835.jpg&hash=812501562cdff8c95bbc0cef57dda85c17a0f5ad)

I remember the runners were so damned small, and could do the old superman across open levels.  Used to get so many kills as the runner.  Mmm...

Yup RagingDragon, that's what I wondered at least. Runner was really small on fours legs indeed  ;D
Also it is not clear but for example the warrior in AVP2 is much taller than a human (if you compare both .abc models from source files you can see that the Alien has at last 30 to 40cm) but weirdly in POV vision of the game it makes you feel that Aliens were small and even sometimes smaller than you. It's an interesting trick to mention.
Even by making alien as accurate to the movies they will seems small due to the POV but they'll cover in the same time a larger area and be easier to shoot.

once again, pose is everything.

i always wondered why no modder tried to correct the pose or make animations similar to the ones in AvP '99. it seems like a logical thing to do.

Quote from: OpenMaw on Apr 06, 2012, 06:57:23 PM

Quote from: HicksUSCM on Apr 06, 2012, 06:03:44 PM

Quote from: CyberDemon13 on Apr 06, 2012, 05:48:45 PM
It's not...

Actually it is.

It's very obviously a posed shot. It's not literally gameplay in that shot. In game assets, in game environment, posed shot.

Whoops! My comment was a bit late lol. I was saying that the xenos are not actually smaller than the humans, it was a reply to  Spoon who was saying that they were... which, as I said, they are not haha. :laugh:

Quote from: Predaker on Apr 06, 2012, 04:28:19 PM

Quote from: Nero the Jackal on Apr 06, 2012, 11:08:46 AMYou do know that the guy with the smart gun is not standing up straight right?

Neither is the Alien... they both have bent knees.

If the humans can weld doors in MP, will the aliens be able to tear through "inches of reinforced steel?" Or maybe use their heads as battering rams to break them down?

Also like to say that the Marine in that pic is O'Neil who is clearly bigger than the other Marines. He is a big guy.

Quote from: Bio Mech Hunter on Apr 06, 2012, 10:18:06 PM

Quote from: PVTDukeMorrison on Apr 06, 2012, 04:35:07 AM

Quote from: Bio Mech Hunter on Apr 05, 2012, 11:09:27 PM
It's looking good, but the Pulse Rifle and Smart Gun sfx are wrong and need to be fixed. They sound terrible.

We also now have undeniable proof the Alien Warriors are indeed... wait for it... TOO SMALL. AGAIN. >:( I'd like to take this moment and just say, TOLD YOU SO. :P

What happened to GB's commitment to making A:CM an authentic Aliens experience? The sfx are jacked and, yet again, the Aliens are stunted cannon fodder. ???

Other than that, the gfx look superb and I'm digging the game-play mechanics.

I can let the Smart Gun's targeting system slide as keeping it canonically accurate would render it useless (the targeting system - not the weapon itself). Since it tracks heat signatures and Aliens don't give off heat, you'd be at a big disadvantage lugging that big thing around with quick and nimble Aliens hunting you.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1228.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee450%2Fpoisonstrudel%2Faliens-colonial-marines-20120403083624100_640w.jpg&hash=5f0bbf86642b3cd00b726571b14307bb779ac41f)

That size looks about right to me, and as for the Alien being CF, it looks like when online they can kill you in up to 2 hits.

It's hard to tell in that pic 'cause you can't see either of their feet placement and the Marine is not standing up straight. It might be a perspective issue in that pic, but if you watch the recent multi-player footage, you see the Warriors are definitely too thin and too short. Not enough height, and not enough mass.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVkAKknz-F8#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVkAKknz-F8#ws)

Everybody pause this video at 0:15. I rest my case lol.
Seriously though, look at where the xeno's head lines up with the marine's, they are about even. Now factor in that 1. it is clearly farther back in the depth of field than your marine buddy, and 2. it is severely hunched over. I'd imagine it would tower over the marine if it were on the same plane as him and standing up perfectly straight. :)

EDIT: So, I uh... just realized that the xeno is, uh... standing on something. Haha... yeah. :'(
Although, I still think it's got a nice height advantage over the marine, even if it isn't as substantial as I first thought lol. Sorry aboot that guys! No harm no foul? ;)

do you think we can see the character models holding up a tracker when its being used or will it be a static marine with his gun out still..??

Quote from: chupacabras acheronsis on Apr 07, 2012, 03:22:42 AM
once again, pose is everything.

i always wondered why no modder tried to correct the pose or make animations similar to the ones in AvP '99. it seems like a logical thing to do.

Because AVP2 .abc models were a pain in the ass.
You had to export it to a very very very old version of 3DS Max and while converting it you would have LOOSE EVERY INFOS such as Bones, rigging stuff, UV MAP etc.
Which in a manner means you had to redo the whole bones & rigging stuff plus 300 animations pose.
But because you would have redo everything and would not have place it at the exact nanometer you would have had to re-code the whole source code to make it works properly plus the attributes.
And by doing so when processing the source code to make the .lot & .dll files you could have had many errors resulting into crash in games.

It is a titan works and nobody succeed because make an entirely new game would have been easier.  ::)
People have tried and all noticed they couldn't because this would have need about one full year of works for just changing ONE model.

Completely useless.

wonder how did they make the game in the first place like that.

Quote from: chupacabras acheronsis on Apr 07, 2012, 03:03:56 PM
wonder how did they make the game in the first place like that.

They used very crappy engine ;)

The Runners in AVP2 when they ran looked like they were humping the floor.

They were indeed.

Quote from: The Runner on Apr 07, 2012, 05:07:39 PM
The Runners in AVP2 when they ran looked like they were humping the floor.

Why you making fun of the runner, that's because they....well yea never mind they humped the floor, ceilings and walls for over 12 years now XD lol

Quote from: chupacabras acheronsis on Apr 07, 2012, 03:03:56 PM
wonder how did they make the game in the first place like that.

Because they had the right plugin that never got release and they had also the source of the models as 3ds files.
They haven't release it which is why nobody tried to modify a model unless using the attributes thing as seen in Balistic from Herr_Alien.
Though, there were some POV models made in time such as the single blade in Projam, the Shuriken, etc. but those models required only a few animations and few bones to be code.
And it was already tough work to do  :D

Happily, engine have grown nowadays in a very flexible way and UDK is probably the best for it because no matter what software you use, there are hundreds of plugins to convert files, import nodes, etc.
If A:CM gets a SDK, modable community will have unlimited power over the game and could do everything you want even if it is Godzilla running into Hadley's hope kicking ass.  ;D

Monolith severely screwed up the Runners in AVP2. More so than the Warriors (who'd thought that was possible? lol). It drove me crazy.

Still, at least the Warriors were a major step up from Rebellion's original AVP PC game. lol

Quote from: Le Celticant on Apr 08, 2012, 07:32:08 PM...could do everything you want even if it is Godzilla running into Hadley's hope kicking ass.  ;D

f**k yeah. I'd kill to see that. 8)

ゴジラ！！！！！

Quote from: Bio Mech Hunter on Apr 08, 2012, 08:36:40 PM
Monolith severely screwed up the Runners in AVP2. More so than the Warriors (who'd thought that was possible? lol). It drove me crazy.

Still, at least the Warriors were a major step up from Rebellion's original AVP PC game. lol

Quote from: Le Celticant on Apr 08, 2012, 07:32:08 PM...could do everything you want even if it is Godzilla running into Hadley's hope kicking ass.  ;D

f**k yeah. I'd kill to see that. 8)

ゴジラ！！！！！

If Godzilla was there, they better brought us Ghidorah .

Quote from: Le Celticant on Apr 08, 2012, 07:32:08 PM
If A:CM gets a SDK, modable community will have unlimited power over the game and could do everything you want even if it is Godzilla running into Hadley's hope kicking ass.  ;D

Man, don't tempt me...I would buy the PC version just to do that. If it gets an SDK. ;D

Saw this today. http://www.1up.com/previews/authenticity-aliens-colonial-marines-blockbuster (http://www.1up.com/previews/authenticity-aliens-colonial-marines-blockbuster)
Brings up some good points about Authenticity and play-ability among younger generations that have never seen the Alien films before.

Has anyone used the flamethrower, yet? I hope it is powerful.

Thanks for answering questions newbeing and husky!

Quote from: newbeing on Apr 10, 2012, 01:46:24 AM
Saw this today. http://www.1up.com/previews/authenticity-aliens-colonial-marines-blockbuster (http://www.1up.com/previews/authenticity-aliens-colonial-marines-blockbuster)
Brings up some good points about Authenticity and play-ability among younger generations that have never seen the Alien films before.

It sure does look authentically like Hadley.

Before it was vapourised...

Quote from: Predaker on Apr 10, 2012, 01:52:55 AM
Has anyone used the flamethrower, yet? I hope it is powerful.

Thanks for answering questions newbeing and husky!

If it's powerful against Aliens, it's not authentic. :laugh:

Quote from: SM on Apr 10, 2012, 01:53:42 AM

Quote from: newbeing on Apr 10, 2012, 01:46:24 AM
Saw this today. http://www.1up.com/previews/authenticity-aliens-colonial-marines-blockbuster (http://www.1up.com/previews/authenticity-aliens-colonial-marines-blockbuster)
Brings up some good points about Authenticity and play-ability among younger generations that have never seen the Alien films before.

It sure does look authentically like Hadley.

Before it was vapourised...

lol

Well it is true, that explosion was massive and easily took out the AP and colony complex, the only thing that would perhaps be believable would be the derelict as that was quite a distance but even then the shock wave would have perhaps knocked it back or worse.

The game would be better if it only had the sulaco and derelict being investigated as while aliens over-running the sulaco is odd, it lends proof that the alien queen either laid eggs in the drop ship or a few facehuggers hitched a ride on her back and make smore sense than something that was blown up reappearing with just some slight damage. I consider all games to be non-canon because its EU but i would have perhaps viewed A:CM as canon if it was done properly and as realistic as possible because at the end of the day Aliens is sci/fi which means it needs some scientific plausibility and massive nuclear explosions not only destroys things but irradiates them.

My own personal criticism of the game so far is the design of the aliens and their stance. The alien heads are much better that avp 2010's warriors but they still have dog-alien legs and walk on all fours, i understand the need to crawl when in vents on on walls but as human-spawned aliens they should be bipedal. If one were to view pictures of the original alien warrior and drone from the first film you will see it had humanoid legs, only alien 3 and the other films started using those legs which was justified in alien 3 because it was a dog-alien (runner) but the other films were crap which messed things up.

here is the pics again. http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQLYEqg0YPgj7pxwXcdeG-y_EgBEpanXbSFseFTQDdiyrUv48pk (http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQLYEqg0YPgj7pxwXcdeG-y_EgBEpanXbSFseFTQDdiyrUv48pk) and http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRYWlQAWLWUwrtgI3J-sjfz1uvmduPOeaPOvFKM3rEWmFs32-hsVQ (http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRYWlQAWLWUwrtgI3J-sjfz1uvmduPOeaPOvFKM3rEWmFs32-hsVQ) and http://www.toyark.com/news/revoltech-toy-news-14/new-photos-alien-warrior-revoltech-3239/ (http://www.toyark.com/news/revoltech-toy-news-14/new-photos-alien-warrior-revoltech-3239/) and http://www.monstergalaxy.com/lifesize_alien_figure.php (http://www.monstergalaxy.com/lifesize_alien_figure.php)

Notice the human-like legs? these are what human-spawned aliens are supposed to look like.

For a game that is "supposedly" trying to be faithful to aliens and the original, they are doing a poor job so far, whether the gameplay and plot are decent remains to be seen but i ain't holding my breath.

Some of you probably know this by now but in multiplayer, aliens will apparently be played in the third person sadly. while i have no problem with third-person views,  A:CM is a FPS and so changing gameplay POV could be disorienting for some players. here is the video that mentions it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG4opj3dMxc#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG4opj3dMxc#ws)

I really want to know how they're going to handle quick time events like the scene in the broken umbilical during co-op.

Quote from: PVTDukeMorrison on Apr 10, 2012, 11:39:47 AM
I really want to know how they're going to handle quick time events like the scene in the broken umbilical during co-op.

Ha I can see it already four marines just hopping all over the place and getting in each others way.

My guess is that only the main player will do it and then the other players will just reappear once it's over.

Quote from: newbeing on Apr 10, 2012, 01:46:24 AM
Saw this today. http://www.1up.com/previews/authenticity-aliens-colonial-marines-blockbuster (http://www.1up.com/previews/authenticity-aliens-colonial-marines-blockbuster)
Brings up some good points about Authenticity and play-ability among younger generations that have never seen the Alien films before.

This was a great little article, and I hope GBX understands this.  I'm confident they do, with the effort going into the multiplayer.

And seeing the glorious history of the AvP mod community, it would be a damn shame if there was no SDK released.

Quote from: RagingDragon on Apr 10, 2012, 03:15:39 PM

Quote from: newbeing on Apr 10, 2012, 01:46:24 AM
Saw this today. http://www.1up.com/previews/authenticity-aliens-colonial-marines-blockbuster (http://www.1up.com/previews/authenticity-aliens-colonial-marines-blockbuster)
Brings up some good points about Authenticity and play-ability among younger generations that have never seen the Alien films before.

This was a great little article, and I hope GBX understands this.  I'm confident they do, with the effort going into the multiplayer.

And seeing the glorious history of the AvP mod community, it would be a damn shame if there was no SDK released.

Yeah the article points out something that does make me nervous when thinking about how well this game will sell, especially if placed next to games such as CoD, Resident Evil and Halo. It surprises me to see just how many young adults 16-21 have never seen any of these films, but love CoD and many of the action and horror games that take material from this franchise.

Quote from: newbeing on Apr 10, 2012, 03:53:48 PM
Yeah the article points out something that does make me nervous when thinking about how well this game will sell, especially if placed next to games such as CoD, Resident Evil and Halo. It surprises me to see just how many young adults 16-21 have never seen any of these films, but love CoD and many of the action and horror games that take material from this franchise.

You're niggling at a larger problem plaguing general culture today: people have forgotten the fundamentals of seemingly everything.  I think that's why so many reboots are happening, is that they try and get the magic back from the first one but it just isn't there no matter how awesome(crappy) the CGI ends up being or how fancy the trailer looks. :laugh:

They have all the parts, just no soul to really get the thing going.  Reminds me of learning about our favorite xenomorph through AvP, just a really different experience than the old films. 

Quote from: RagingDragon on Apr 10, 2012, 06:18:16 PM

Quote from: newbeing on Apr 10, 2012, 03:53:48 PM
Yeah the article points out something that does make me nervous when thinking about how well this game will sell, especially if placed next to games such as CoD, Resident Evil and Halo. It surprises me to see just how many young adults 16-21 have never seen any of these films, b ;Dut love CoD and many of the action and horror games that take material from this franchise.

You're niggling at a larger problem plaguing general culture today: people have forgotten the fundamentals of seemingly everything.  I think that's why so many reboots are happening, is that they try and get the magic back from the first one but it just isn't there no matter how awesome(crappy) the CGI ends up being or how fancy the trailer looks. :laugh:

They have all the parts, just no soul to really get the thing going.  Reminds me of learning about our favorite xenomorph through AvP, just a really different experience than the old films.

LOL

Luckily, my first experience with ALIEN was long before AvP existed.

The press event has got me excited again. A:CM has much potential.

Quote from: newbeing on Apr 10, 2012, 03:53:48 PM
Yeah the article points out something that does make me nervous when thinking about how well this game will sell, especially if placed next to games such as CoD, Resident Evil and Halo. It surprises me to see just how many young adults 16-21 have never seen any of these films, but love CoD and many of the action and horror games that take material from this franchise.

Same here. I was lucky enough to be born into a family that likes it's horror films. I practically grew up watching the original alien films on VHS, and I'm still a teenager.

I hope Gearbox and Sega get the message that this game needs an SDK and custom player matches if they really want to see longevity. It's a piss poor business model to force people to buy content half as good as what the community could make. We saw how well avp did with it's dlc. I bought them both, being a hardcore fan, but 9 out of 10 people never did. Imagine how many more sales of the game itself could have occurred with free, unlimited maps? Win win. I don't understand why Sega sabotaged themselves like that---unless they were financially in trouble and needed to make a quick buck. Correct me if I'm wrong, but a quick fix isn't a fix at all.


/end rant

Absolutely. AVP2's AJL Mod FTW. \m/

Too bad there are no lobbies that use AJL3, oh well, just gonna have to wait for A:CM.

I know. I was waiting for Rel 3 for what seemed like an eternity... then Sierra pulled the plug and messed everything up. T_T

the worst thing is that there are no LAN managers that support modded AvP2. i could easily get 5-10 people together to play a match but there's no way to hook the game with game ranger or hamachi.

Go try the AXP, guys  ;)