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https://twitter.com/Borys_Kit/status/824305814332542976

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/jacob-tremblay-star-shane-blacks-predator-movie-967671

Some updated synopsis

With a young kid in play, there will be a scene where a Predator doesn't kill one of the main characters because he is near.

QuoteTremblay will play the son of Holbrook's character, an ex-Marine who discovers the existence of fierce aliens but finds that no one believes they exist. The son is autistic and bullied in school but becomes a key player in the fight due to his preternatural ability to learn languages.

*Added link to article. Hicks.

Nice find!!

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What if he's the one that drops "You're one ugly motherf**ker." this time around. :laugh:


Good actor, btw.

Remember this early rummored synposis with marine that finds predator gear and his son?

also

Preternatural language ability? Kid is going to chat with predator, right?

Quote from: Master on Jan 25, 2017, 05:41:41 PM
Remember this early rummored synposis with marine that finds predator gear and his son?

also

Preternatural language ability? Kid is going to chat with predator, right?

Both sound spot on.

Quote from: Master on Jan 25, 2017, 05:41:41 PM
Remember this early rummored synposis with marine that finds predator gear and his son?

also

Preternatural language ability? Kid is going to chat with predator, right?

Probably or for some reason he can decypher their writing??

Getting Super 8 vibes here.

Black & Dekker have been talking about a Spielberg influence with this new film...

All of this fits.


I'm ok with it. Predator films were never super serious hard-scifi anyway
(despite the opinions of a few cringe worthy weird nerds).  :laugh:

Quote from: skhellter on Jan 25, 2017, 05:49:39 PM
Black & Dekker have been talking about a Spielberg influence with this new film...

All of this fits.


I'm ok with it.

Hopefully it remains R rated...

It is.

Gore. F-Bombs, etc.

Dekker's last interview confirms it.

Sounds pretty cool, i like we are getting something not seen in this franchise before.

I hope it is more Last Boy Scout then Robocop 3.

and yeah i think this confirms the Reddit plot leak a while ago...


eh it'll be fine.

'I am quite sure this will be met with howls of derision, probably aimed at me, but whatever - this is what I have heard...

A special-ops tough guy is in a jungle taking down a target. He quite literally stumbles across an invisible being - a dead Predator. So he grabs the Predator's equipment, takes down his target and goes home (he may blow up a Predator ship, I am not sure I remembered this bit quite correctly). When he gets home, his 12-year-old son happens to see the alien equipment that his dad brought back. The father reluctantly tells him what he knows. And it's about then that another Predator tracks them down, with the intention of taking the equipment back...

I heard this from a very reputable source (using throwaway to protect that source if indeed this is true), and given Black's penchant for wise-cracking kids, it really does fit his MO

I heard this from a very reputable source (using throwaway to protect that source if indeed this is true), and given Black's penchant for wise-cracking kids, it really does fit his MO. It also fits with the quotes we've heard from those familiar with the project - "I think it's genius and I think it's entertaining and what it did is recreate a famous franchise in a different, interesting way; looking at it from a different light.".

Very interesting, I am excited to see how this all plays out in the movie!

The first casting news I'm legitimately excited about. Kid is talented.

That rumored plot sounds more, and more like it's real.

so it's gonna feel like

Super 8
but R-Rated, with Predators and actually well directed and well written.
:laugh:

No lens flares this time around, too.

Not sure I like the idea of the kid learning Predator language. I mean isn't it usually consisting with grunts and clicks anyway?

Quote from: Predator_Spirit on Jan 25, 2017, 06:14:23 PM
'I am quite sure this will be met with howls of derision, probably aimed at me, but whatever - this is what I have heard...

A special-ops tough guy is in a jungle taking down a target. He quite literally stumbles across an invisible being - a dead Predator. So he grabs the Predator's equipment, takes down his target and goes home (he may blow up a Predator ship, I am not sure I remembered this bit quite correctly). When he gets home, his 12-year-old son happens to see the alien equipment that his dad brought back. The father reluctantly tells him what he knows. And it's about then that another Predator tracks them down, with the intention of taking the equipment back...

I heard this from a very reputable source (using throwaway to protect that source if indeed this is true), and given Black's penchant for wise-cracking kids, it really does fit his MO'

Well that sounds f*cking horrible. What in the Hell is Shane Black thinking!?

"Want some candy"

Quote from: RakaiThwei on Jan 25, 2017, 06:20:47 PM
Not sure I like the idea of the kid learning Predator language. I mean isn't it usually consisting with grunts and clicks anyway?

Having a child prodigy/autistic kid understand some of the patterns/words is fine, imo.

Not really realistic, mind you.. as people with autism often struggle with learning other languages, etc.
but it's a predator film and realism isnt really the name of the game so whatever.

Quote from: Predator_Spirit on Jan 25, 2017, 06:14:23 PM
'I am quite sure this will be met with howls of derision, probably aimed at me, but whatever - this is what I have heard...

A special-ops tough guy is in a jungle taking down a target. He quite literally stumbles across an invisible being - a dead Predator. So he grabs the Predator's equipment, takes down his target and goes home (he may blow up a Predator ship, I am not sure I remembered this bit quite correctly). When he gets home, his 12-year-old son happens to see the alien equipment that his dad brought back. The father reluctantly tells him what he knows. And it's about then that another Predator tracks them down, with the intention of taking the equipment back...

I heard this from a very reputable source (using throwaway to protect that source if indeed this is true), and given Black's penchant for wise-cracking kids, it really does fit his MO'

Just have The Predator as a prequel to AvPR and bring Wolf back. Wolf deserves to be in a good movie.

Uh oh.....

In predator 2 the hunter was about to transform a kid into pulp but now the predators are Child Psychiatrists ? :laugh:

City Hunter let that kid in Predator2 go unharmed.
And he let a pregnant woman (that was trying to kill him) go unharmed, too.


And a certain amount of different behaviour from different members of 1 species is pretty normal stuff...

So it IS set on the suburbs.

It will be interesting to see how the other characters are involved in the father/son story. The Predator is going to need to kill some guys at some point.

He could do it by figuring out the written words...he maybe able to read "predator" but not speak it.

Quote from: Federick Gonsa on Jan 25, 2017, 06:45:29 PM
So it IS set on the suburbs.

There's 0 mention of that setting in the leaked plot points.

Quote from: skhellter on Jan 25, 2017, 06:29:01 PM

Quote from: RakaiThwei on Jan 25, 2017, 06:20:47 PM
Not sure I like the idea of the kid learning Predator language. I mean isn't it usually consisting with grunts and clicks anyway?

Having a child prodigy/autistic kid understand some of the patterns/words is fine, imo.

Not really realistic, mind you.. as people with autism often struggle with learning other languages, etc.
but it's a predator film and realism isnt really the name of the game so whatever.

I wouldn't say all autistic people struggle with learning languages.

Daniel Trammel is autistic and he was able to learn an entire language in a week, I think he learned Icelandic if I remember correctly. And when he spoke to a native speaker after the week passed, they complimented him on how well he spoke.

Maybe the kid could be a Savant. It's where people with a difficulty in some areas experience a massive boost in other areas due to the brain administering focus over to those skills.

So in this kid's case, he may have trouble acting "normal" or understanding facial expressions or whatever it is he'd have trouble with, and his brain would re-organise by focusing in the language department hence his ability to learn new ones so well.

And like others have said, he'll probably learn the written words somehow rather than actually speak to a Predator.

Quote from: skhellter on Jan 25, 2017, 06:42:39 PM
City Hunter let that kid in Predator2 go unharmed.
And he let a pregnant woman (that was trying to kill him) go unharmed, too.


And a certain amount of different behaviour from different members of 1 species is pretty normal stuff...

The predator let them go cause... He realized it was a toy gun, and cause she was pregnant he exercised moral judgment.

But the other pred species I think wouldn't follow rules.

Quote from: skhellter on Jan 25, 2017, 06:42:39 PM
City Hunter let that kid in Predator2 go unharmed.
And he let a pregnant woman (that was trying to kill him) go unharmed, too.
And a certain amount of different behaviour from different members of 1 species is pretty normal stuff...

You're missing the point.
The kid was going to be killed wich means the predators don't care much about your age or gender, they just care if you carry
a weapon or not.So when I hear a predator won't kill someone because there is a kid in the room it's totally out of character.

I wouldn't be surprised if he's involved in a scene with a Predator. Maybe not talking to one, but seeing one. I don't mind the idea as long as it's done well.

I'm sure the father and son material is probably set in the suburbs. Doesn't mean the Predators will show up there.

But who knows?

Quote from: skhellter on Jan 25, 2017, 06:29:01 PM

Quote from: RakaiThwei on Jan 25, 2017, 06:20:47 PM
Not sure I like the idea of the kid learning Predator language. I mean isn't it usually consisting with grunts and clicks anyway?

Having a child prodigy/autistic kid understand some of the patterns/words is fine, imo.

Not really realistic, mind you.. as people with autism often struggle with learning other languages, etc.
but it's a predator film and realism isnt really the name of the game so whatever.

He may have Asperger syndrome. Very similar to autism but without mental disability nor language problems. People with Asperger syndrome tend to be obsessively interested in one particular subject, like languages.

Quote from: RakaiThwei on Jan 25, 2017, 06:20:47 PM
Not sure I like the idea of the kid learning Predator language. I mean isn't it usually consisting with grunts and clicks anyway?

What about their writing? Maybe it's on tech that's intercepted.

Quote from: Predator_Spirit on Jan 25, 2017, 06:57:06 PM

Quote from: skhellter on Jan 25, 2017, 06:42:39 PM
City Hunter let that kid in Predator2 go unharmed.
And he let a pregnant woman (that was trying to kill him) go unharmed, too.
And a certain amount of different behaviour from different members of 1 species is pretty normal stuff...

You're missing the point.
The kid was going to be killed wich means the predators don't care much about your age or gender, they just care if you carry
a weapon or not.So when I hear a predator won't kill someone because there is a kid in the room it's totally out of character.

Just straight killing machines, how boring! I can't wait for Shane to add dimension and substance to the predator mythology. I've been waiting for someone talented to expand this series for a long time.

I hope the kid communicates with the predator and it pisses all the psychos off. ;D

Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Jan 25, 2017, 07:01:48 PM

Quote from: Predator_Spirit on Jan 25, 2017, 06:57:06 PM

Quote from: skhellter on Jan 25, 2017, 06:42:39 PM
City Hunter let that kid in Predator2 go unharmed.
And he let a pregnant woman (that was trying to kill him) go unharmed, too.
And a certain amount of different behaviour from different members of 1 species is pretty normal stuff...

You're missing the point.
The kid was going to be killed wich means the predators don't care much about your age or gender, they just care if you carry
a weapon or not.So when I hear a predator won't kill someone because there is a kid in the room it's totally out of character.

Just straight killing machines, how boring! I can't wait for Shane to add dimension and substance to the predator mythology. I've been waiting for someone talented to expand this series for a long time.

I hope the kid communicates with the predator and it pisses all the psychos off. ;D

Ugh.

Quote from: Predator_Spirit on Jan 25, 2017, 06:57:06 PM

Quote from: skhellter on Jan 25, 2017, 06:42:39 PM
City Hunter let that kid in Predator2 go unharmed.
And he let a pregnant woman (that was trying to kill him) go unharmed, too.
And a certain amount of different behaviour from different members of 1 species is pretty normal stuff...

You're missing the point.
The kid was going to be killed wich means the predators don't care much about your age or gender, they just care if you carry
a weapon or not.So when I hear a predator won't kill someone because there is a kid in the room it's totally out of character.

I don't know about that. In a lot of ways I think Predators know the difference between kids and adults. Which includes their intentions and the way they act. The little kid in P2 was having fun with a toy gun and City Hunter understood that. Yeah, he locked his cannon on him, but he knew the kid's intentions weren't bad.

I do think a Bad Blood wouldn't care how young a child is and kill them without a second thought. I look at them as serial killers of their species. Anything goes.

Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Jan 25, 2017, 07:01:48 PM

Quote from: Predator_Spirit on Jan 25, 2017, 06:57:06 PM

Quote from: skhellter on Jan 25, 2017, 06:42:39 PM
City Hunter let that kid in Predator2 go unharmed.
And he let a pregnant woman (that was trying to kill him) go unharmed, too.
And a certain amount of different behaviour from different members of 1 species is pretty normal stuff...

You're missing the point.
The kid was going to be killed wich means the predators don't care much about your age or gender, they just care if you carry
a weapon or not.So when I hear a predator won't kill someone because there is a kid in the room it's totally out of character.

Just straight killing machines, how boring! I can't wait for Shane to add dimension and substance to the predator mythology. I've been waiting for someone talented to expand this series for a long time.

I hope the kid communicates with the predator and it pisses all the psychos off. ;D

This, Predators are a species. They're not a hivemind that all act the same, so there's nothing "out of character" if one Predator's behaviour deviates from the rest.

There could be Predators out there who refuse to hunt intelligent life for moral reasons. Just how there's humans here who refuse to eat meat for moral reasons despite us being predatory omnivores.

What do we have in common with Predators? Our individuality and diversity.

Not to jump so conclusion but I'm getting a rather Ripley/Newt Gender Role Reversal vibe

Quote from: The Alien Predator on Jan 25, 2017, 07:06:00 PM

Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Jan 25, 2017, 07:01:48 PM

Quote from: Predator_Spirit on Jan 25, 2017, 06:57:06 PM

Quote from: skhellter on Jan 25, 2017, 06:42:39 PM
City Hunter let that kid in Predator2 go unharmed.
And he let a pregnant woman (that was trying to kill him) go unharmed, too.
And a certain amount of different behaviour from different members of 1 species is pretty normal stuff...

You're missing the point.
The kid was going to be killed wich means the predators don't care much about your age or gender, they just care if you carry
a weapon or not.So when I hear a predator won't kill someone because there is a kid in the room it's totally out of character.

Just straight killing machines, how boring! I can't wait for Shane to add dimension and substance to the predator mythology. I've been waiting for someone talented to expand this series for a long time.

I hope the kid communicates with the predator and it pisses all the psychos off. ;D

This, Predators are a species. They're not a hivemind that all act the same, so there's nothing "out of character" if one Predator's behaviour deviates from the rest.

There could be Predators out there who refuse to hunt intelligent life for moral reasons. Just how there's humans here who refuse to eat meat for moral reasons despite us being predatory omnivores.

What do we have in common with Predators? Our individuality and diversity.

Well said. 8)

Quote from: Predator_Spirit on Jan 25, 2017, 06:57:06 PM
it's totally out of character.

Almost as if.. we were talking about the behaviour of different people.

City Hunter is dead. Getting too hung up on what he did or didnt is a bit nonsensical.

Quote from: Pvt. Himmel on Jan 25, 2017, 07:07:10 PM

Quote from: The Alien Predator on Jan 25, 2017, 07:06:00 PM

Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Jan 25, 2017, 07:01:48 PM

Quote from: Predator_Spirit on Jan 25, 2017, 06:57:06 PM

Quote from: skhellter on Jan 25, 2017, 06:42:39 PM
City Hunter let that kid in Predator2 go unharmed.
And he let a pregnant woman (that was trying to kill him) go unharmed, too.
And a certain amount of different behaviour from different members of 1 species is pretty normal stuff...

You're missing the point.
The kid was going to be killed wich means the predators don't care much about your age or gender, they just care if you carry
a weapon or not.So when I hear a predator won't kill someone because there is a kid in the room it's totally out of character.

Just straight killing machines, how boring! I can't wait for Shane to add dimension and substance to the predator mythology. I've been waiting for someone talented to expand this series for a long time.

I hope the kid communicates with the predator and it pisses all the psychos off. ;D

This, Predators are a species. They're not a hivemind that all act the same, so there's nothing "out of character" if one Predator's behaviour deviates from the rest.

There could be Predators out there who refuse to hunt intelligent life for moral reasons. Just how there's humans here who refuse to eat meat for moral reasons despite us being predatory omnivores.

What do we have in common with Predators? Our individuality and diversity.

Well said. 8)

Thank you.  :)

Quote from: The Alien Predator on Jan 25, 2017, 07:14:39 PM

Quote from: Pvt. Himmel on Jan 25, 2017, 07:07:10 PM

Quote from: The Alien Predator on Jan 25, 2017, 07:06:00 PM

Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Jan 25, 2017, 07:01:48 PM

Quote from: Predator_Spirit on Jan 25, 2017, 06:57:06 PM

Quote from: skhellter on Jan 25, 2017, 06:42:39 PM
City Hunter let that kid in Predator2 go unharmed.
And he let a pregnant woman (that was trying to kill him) go unharmed, too.
And a certain amount of different behaviour from different members of 1 species is pretty normal stuff...

You're missing the point.
The kid was going to be killed wich means the predators don't care much about your age or gender, they just care if you carry
a weapon or not.So when I hear a predator won't kill someone because there is a kid in the room it's totally out of character.

Just straight killing machines, how boring! I can't wait for Shane to add dimension and substance to the predator mythology. I've been waiting for someone talented to expand this series for a long time.

I hope the kid communicates with the predator and it pisses all the psychos off. ;D

This, Predators are a species. They're not a hivemind that all act the same, so there's nothing "out of character" if one Predator's behaviour deviates from the rest.

There could be Predators out there who refuse to hunt intelligent life for moral reasons. Just how there's humans here who refuse to eat meat for moral reasons despite us being predatory omnivores.

What do we have in common with Predators? Our individuality and diversity.

Well said. 8)

Thank you.  :)

Anytime  8)

Allright, after all maybe it will be the predator female and that will explain why she spares the guy in front of the kid, maternal instinct... :D
:laugh: You people could defend the worst ideas ever.

Quote from: Pvt. Himmel on Jan 25, 2017, 07:36:59 PM

Quote from: The Alien Predator on Jan 25, 2017, 07:14:39 PM

Quote from: Pvt. Himmel on Jan 25, 2017, 07:07:10 PM

Quote from: The Alien Predator on Jan 25, 2017, 07:06:00 PM

Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Jan 25, 2017, 07:01:48 PM

Quote from: Predator_Spirit on Jan 25, 2017, 06:57:06 PM

Quote from: skhellter on Jan 25, 2017, 06:42:39 PM
City Hunter let that kid in Predator2 go unharmed.
And he let a pregnant woman (that was trying to kill him) go unharmed, too.
And a certain amount of different behaviour from different members of 1 species is pretty normal stuff...

You're missing the point.
The kid was going to be killed wich means the predators don't care much about your age or gender, they just care if you carry
a weapon or not.So when I hear a predator won't kill someone because there is a kid in the room it's totally out of character.

Just straight killing machines, how boring! I can't wait for Shane to add dimension and substance to the predator mythology. I've been waiting for someone talented to expand this series for a long time.

I hope the kid communicates with the predator and it pisses all the psychos off. ;D

This, Predators are a species. They're not a hivemind that all act the same, so there's nothing "out of character" if one Predator's behaviour deviates from the rest.

There could be Predators out there who refuse to hunt intelligent life for moral reasons. Just how there's humans here who refuse to eat meat for moral reasons despite us being predatory omnivores.

What do we have in common with Predators? Our individuality and diversity.

Well said. 8)

Thank you.  :)

Anytime  8)

*Predator secretly records that from nearby, for use later on.*  :P

Quote from: The Alien Predator on Jan 25, 2017, 07:47:50 PM

Quote from: Pvt. Himmel on Jan 25, 2017, 07:36:59 PM

Quote from: The Alien Predator on Jan 25, 2017, 07:14:39 PM

Quote from: Pvt. Himmel on Jan 25, 2017, 07:07:10 PM

Quote from: The Alien Predator on Jan 25, 2017, 07:06:00 PM

Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Jan 25, 2017, 07:01:48 PM

Quote from: Predator_Spirit on Jan 25, 2017, 06:57:06 PM

Quote from: skhellter on Jan 25, 2017, 06:42:39 PM
City Hunter let that kid in Predator2 go unharmed.
And he let a pregnant woman (that was trying to kill him) go unharmed, too.
And a certain amount of different behaviour from different members of 1 species is pretty normal stuff...

You're missing the point.
The kid was going to be killed wich means the predators don't care much about your age or gender, they just care if you carry
a weapon or not.So when I hear a predator won't kill someone because there is a kid in the room it's totally out of character.

Just straight killing machines, how boring! I can't wait for Shane to add dimension and substance to the predator mythology. I've been waiting for someone talented to expand this series for a long time.

I hope the kid communicates with the predator and it pisses all the psychos off. ;D

This, Predators are a species. They're not a hivemind that all act the same, so there's nothing "out of character" if one Predator's behaviour deviates from the rest.

There could be Predators out there who refuse to hunt intelligent life for moral reasons. Just how there's humans here who refuse to eat meat for moral reasons despite us being predatory omnivores.

What do we have in common with Predators? Our individuality and diversity.

Well said. 8)

Thank you.  :)

Anytime  8)

*Predator secretly records that from nearby, for use later on.*  :P

:laugh:

The Alien Predator wrote:

QuoteI wouldn't say all autistic people struggle with learning languages.

Daniel Trammel is autistic and he was able to learn an entire language in a week, I think he learned Icelandic if I remember correctly. And when he spoke to a native speaker after the week passed, they complimented him on how well he spoke.

Maybe the kid could be a Savant. It's where people with a difficulty in some areas experience a massive boost in other areas due to the brain administering focus over to those skills.

So in this kid's case, he may have trouble acting "normal" or understanding facial expressions or whatever it is he'd have trouble with, and his brain would re-organise by focusing in the language department hence his ability to learn new ones so well.

Well said, I could buy into that. I have no problem stretching some believability considering the mud/heat signature thing.

QuoteAnd like others have said, he'll probably learn the written words somehow rather than actually speak to a Predator.

Seems most likely right? I can't think of a scenario in which a Predator has a conversation with any human for whatever reason. Or maybe the government intercepts Pred signals?

The City Hunter was just curious about the kid at the cemetery. He was examining him and was interested in the weapon and what the hell the kid was doing, but aside for having his laser on him he didn't have any intention of killing the kid.

You can't have the Predator spare a pregnant woman and be interested in killing a kid in the same movie. It's not out of character at all. It's completely in character for a Predator not to kill a kid because that would probably be the shittiest trophy you can get and no one would take you seriously.

Now, this scene with the Predator not killing someone because the kid is there is interesting. I wonder if it's because a kid is there, or because THIS kid is there. Maybe the kid pulled a John Conner from Terminator 2 and told the Predator killing is not OK.

But I just saw Nostalgia Critic's review of Smurfs 2 where that kid was really annoying and shitty even for a child actor.

Anyways, I predict the kid will do the clicking noise back at the Predator. I know I would.

What's a bit worrying is "nobody believes they're real", which rules out Dutch. There's a lot of people from Predator 2 who are not only aware of them, but have done some studies and gathered some data about the Predators. What happened to that?

Looks like THR removed this comment from their article: "The son is autistic and bullied in school but becomes a key player in the fight due to his preternatural ability to learn languages."

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 25, 2017, 08:28:40 PM
Looks like THR removed this comment from their article: "The son is autistic and bullied in school but becomes a key player in the fight due to his preternatural ability to learn languages."

That's pretty interesting considering they didn't bother removing nor clarifying their suburbs claim.

Could they have removed it at the studios request to keep the plot more under wraps or did they realize that part wasn't actually true?

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Quote from: overthere on Jan 25, 2017, 08:22:25 PM
Anyways, I predict the kid will do the clicking noise back at the Predator. I know I would.

I never thought of the clicking noise as part of their language; I thought of it more of an intimidation thing or hunting ritual within the Predators animalistic nature. You may be right but I don't see how the kid will he able to do the clicking noises especially since I'd imagine the timing of each click would have to be perfect if it is indeed a language.

QuoteWhat's a bit worrying is "nobody believes they're real", which rules out Dutch. There's a lot of people from Predator 2 who are not only aware of them, but have done some studies and gathered some data about the Predators. What happened to that?

I read it more as "nobody Quinn has shown his evidence to" believes him.

Quote from: Stealth_Hunter on Jan 25, 2017, 08:38:02 PM

I never thought of the clicking noise as part of their language; I thought of it more of an intimidation thing or hunting ritual within the Predators animalistic nature. You may be right but I don't see how the kid will he able to do the clicking noises especially since I'd imagine the timing of each click would have to be perfect if it is indeed a language.

You're probably right, the clicking is something like cat purring, not actual language.

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 25, 2017, 08:28:40 PM
Looks like THR removed this comment from their article: "The son is autistic and bullied in school but becomes a key player in the fight due to his preternatural ability to learn languages."

I guess they're scared by the very negative reactions.

That what I figured as well if he took it to someone higher up in government and they didn't believe him then you could say the first didn't happen or that particular person isn't informed on the predators

Quote from: Stealth_Hunter on Jan 25, 2017, 08:03:36 PM
The Alien Predator wrote:

QuoteI wouldn't say all autistic people struggle with learning languages.

Daniel Trammel is autistic and he was able to learn an entire language in a week, I think he learned Icelandic if I remember correctly. And when he spoke to a native speaker after the week passed, they complimented him on how well he spoke.

Maybe the kid could be a Savant. It's where people with a difficulty in some areas experience a massive boost in other areas due to the brain administering focus over to those skills.

So in this kid's case, he may have trouble acting "normal" or understanding facial expressions or whatever it is he'd have trouble with, and his brain would re-organise by focusing in the language department hence his ability to learn new ones so well.

Well said, I could buy into that. I have no problem stretching some believability considering the mud/heat signature thing.

QuoteAnd like others have said, he'll probably learn the written words somehow rather than actually speak to a Predator.

Seems most likely right? I can't think of a scenario in which a Predator has a conversation with any human for whatever reason. Or maybe the government intercepts Pred signals?

Thanks.

Yeah, I also have no problems with suspending a bit of my own belief for some things in these movies either.

Regarding him learning their language. I can see it due to him maybe noticing some patterns in the Predator writing and somehow deciphering them. Autistic people see the world in different ways (technically, we all do, but some of them could be exceptionally gifted in some departments to make up for what they lack in others.) so the kid could be good at solving these language puzzles.

Think of it how linguists today have to try and decipher ancient texts that have no living people who speak that language. I am now curious as to how people study really ancient languages. How they know pronunciations and things like that.

Want some candy?

Quote from: Predator_Spirit on Jan 25, 2017, 06:14:23 PM
'I am quite sure this will be met with howls of derision, probably aimed at me, but whatever - this is what I have heard...

A special-ops tough guy is in a jungle taking down a target. He quite literally stumbles across an invisible being - a dead Predator. So he grabs the Predator's equipment, takes down his target and goes home (he may blow up a Predator ship, I am not sure I remembered this bit quite correctly). When he gets home, his 12-year-old son happens to see the alien equipment that his dad brought back. The father reluctantly tells him what he knows. And it's about then that another Predator tracks them down, with the intention of taking the equipment back...

I heard this from a very reputable source (using throwaway to protect that source if indeed this is true), and given Black's penchant for wise-cracking kids, it really does fit his MO'

Looks like your source was right about the kid. Seems like Shane is following his trend of putting kids in his films (Iron Man 3, The Nice Guys) and now The Predator. Could work if they pull it of right, we´ll have to wait and see.

Now all we need is an Arnold confirmation.

Quote from: Predator_Spirit on Jan 25, 2017, 06:14:23 PM
'I am quite sure this will be met with howls of derision, probably aimed at me, but whatever - this is what I have heard...

A special-ops tough guy is in a jungle taking down a target. He quite literally stumbles across an invisible being - a dead Predator. So he grabs the Predator's equipment, takes down his target and goes home (he may blow up a Predator ship, I am not sure I remembered this bit quite correctly). When he gets home, his 12-year-old son happens to see the alien equipment that his dad brought back. The father reluctantly tells him what he knows. And it's about then that another Predator tracks them down, with the intention of taking the equipment back...

I heard this from a very reputable source (using throwaway to protect that source if indeed this is true), and given Black's penchant for wise-cracking kids, it really does fit his MO'

that sounds terrible, so it might very well be true, anyway this movie is not canon so they can do whatever they want

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Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 25, 2017, 08:28:40 PM
Looks like THR removed this comment from their article: "The son is autistic and bullied in school but becomes a key player in the fight due to his preternatural ability to learn languages."

I guess they're scared by the very negative reactions.

????

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i am calling it right now, this movie will have stong political subtext and it will be about a group of people banding together against a Predator, unlike the "lone wolf" storylines of the first two, this will be  a team of town folks trying to survive the predator, and a kid

How is it not canon?

OMG they casted a creepy looking ventriloquist's puppet.

I'm excited to see what they do with this. I think this is going to be a very fun movie.  :laugh:

Aaaaaaand the movie is f**ked.

Arnold is laughing his ass off. Unless it's a comedy horror sci-fi, which means it will be a success!

Good news, I was wondering what the new angle was going to be and it's something I never thought about.
I like the fact that this will finally portray the predator as an intelligent species and not just a killing machine monster (we have aliens for that). After all those creatures build space ships which humans beings can't yet. So naturally they have a language, morality, intelligence etc

Looks interesting and original. There's more to them than killing and skinning creatures...

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Be serious really who wanted yet another round of a predator killing of a bunch of tough guys? And yet people are talking about a lack of creativity in sequels/reboots.

Quote from: nanison on Jan 26, 2017, 12:13:22 AM
Good news, I was wondering what the new angle was going to be and it's something I never thought about.
I like the fact that this will finally portray the predator as an intelligent species and not just a killing machine monster (we have aliens for that). After all those creatures build space ships which humans beings can't yet. So naturally they have a language, morality, intelligence etc

Looks interesting and original. There's more to them than killing and skinning creatures...

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Be serious really who wanted yet another round of a predator killing of a bunch of tough guys? And yet people are talking about a lack of creativity in sequels/reboots.

This guy's one of the good ones.

Quote from: nanison on Jan 26, 2017, 12:13:22 AM
Be serious really who wanted yet another round of a predator killing of a bunch of tough guys? And yet people are talking about a lack of creativity in sequels/reboots.

Most of the fans who endured a lot of pointless predator crap since what, 27 years.

Quote from: nanison on Jan 26, 2017, 12:13:22 AMBe serious really who wanted yet another round of a predator killing of a bunch of tough guys? And yet people are talking about a lack of creativity in sequels/reboots.

I did! This is starting to shape up into AVP-R territory.
-suburbs
-predator hunting in a town
-ex marine soldier
-kids and family
-literal who? casting

Quote from: Predator_Spirit on Jan 26, 2017, 12:21:31 AM

Quote from: nanison on Jan 26, 2017, 12:13:22 AM
Be serious really who wanted yet another round of a predator killing of a bunch of tough guys? And yet people are talking about a lack of creativity in sequels/reboots.

Most of the fans who endured a lot of pointless predator crap since what, 27 years.

So you didn't like predator 2? I personally love it equal to the original. All the other films were well below my expectations.

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Quote from: genocyber on Jan 26, 2017, 12:26:12 AM

Quote from: nanison on Jan 26, 2017, 12:13:22 AMBe serious really who wanted yet another round of a predator killing of a bunch of tough guys? And yet people are talking about a lack of creativity in sequels/reboots.

I did! This is starting to shape up into AVP-R territory.
-suburbs
-predator hunting in a town
-ex marine soldier
-kids and family
-literal who? casting

But this time there is a budget and some talented men behind the camera.
Nothing wrong with the casting, the predator is the star anyway...

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Quote from: RakaiThwei on Jan 25, 2017, 06:20:47 PM
Not sure I like the idea of the kid learning Predator language. I mean isn't it usually consisting with grunts and clicks anyway?

Having a child prodigy/autistic kid understand some of the patterns/words is fine, imo.

Not really realistic, mind you.. as people with autism often struggle with learning other languages, etc.
but it's a predator film and realism isnt really the name of the game so whatever.

He may have Asperger syndrome. Very similar to autism but without mental disability nor language problems. People with Asperger syndrome tend to be obsessively interested in one particular subject, like languages.

Kinda like Affleck in The Accountant?


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And the "who's" were just in or are about to be in major projects, with significant roles. Logan, Moonlight, People vs OJ, Room, Black Panther, etc. The AvP-R cast wasn't like that.

Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Jan 26, 2017, 12:45:48 AM
And the "who's" were just in or are about to be in major projects, with significant roles. Logan, Moonlight, People vs OJ, Room, Black Panther, etc. The AvP-R cast wasn't like that.

Fact. Plus the kid was awesome in Room, one of my fave movies of 2015

All of the sudden, Predators looks so much better.

Not a frame of film has been shot yet. At least give it that until the comparisons to AvP-R start.

https://twitter.com/JacobTremblay/status/824386679347646465

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*Edited with the picture in post. Hicks.

Nice. I like this kid.

Quote from: echobbase79 on Jan 26, 2017, 01:11:23 AM

Not a frame of film has been shot yet. At least give it that until the comparisons to AvP-R start.

Are people just forgetting that Fred said this takes places in multiple locales?

And even if it were 100% in suburbia, it's still SHANE BLACK. He's not exactly a Strause.

Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Jan 26, 2017, 01:39:18 AM

Quote from: echobbase79 on Jan 26, 2017, 01:11:23 AM

Not a frame of film has been shot yet. At least give it that until the comparisons to AvP-R start.

Are people just forgetting that Fred said this takes places in multiple locales?

And even if it were 100% in suburbia, it's still SHANE BLACK. He's not exactly a Strause.

The suburb parts probably just take place during character moments. Until I see some footage I'm not worrying about it.

Yup. If they can't take the words straight from the horse's mouth...

Quote from: echobbase79 on Jan 26, 2017, 01:11:23 AM

Not a frame of film has been shot yet. At least give it that until the comparisons to AvP-R start.

I know what a turd looks like before it's going to come out  ;)

Quote from: Keith on Jan 26, 2017, 01:49:57 AM

Quote from: echobbase79 on Jan 26, 2017, 01:11:23 AM

Not a frame of film has been shot yet. At least give it that until the comparisons to AvP-R start.

I know what a turd looks like before it's going to come out  ;)

AvP-R had Shane Salerno writing that. That's who I blame for AvP and Requiem. Peter Briggs even confirmed that. He's no where in same league as Black and Dekker.

Not to say that Salerno doesn't have a place in the industry. He's made some wonderful documentaries. He just had no business writing those movies.

Quote from: nanison on Jan 26, 2017, 12:26:33 AM

Quote from: Predator_Spirit on Jan 26, 2017, 12:21:31 AM

Quote from: nanison on Jan 26, 2017, 12:13:22 AM
Be serious really who wanted yet another round of a predator killing of a bunch of tough guys? And yet people are talking about a lack of creativity in sequels/reboots.

Most of the fans who endured a lot of pointless predator crap since what, 27 years.

So you didn't like predator 2? I personally love it equal to the original. All the other films were well below my expectations.

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Quote from: genocyber on Jan 26, 2017, 12:26:12 AM

Quote from: nanison on Jan 26, 2017, 12:13:22 AMBe serious really who wanted yet another round of a predator killing of a bunch of tough guys? And yet people are talking about a lack of creativity in sequels/reboots.

I did! This is starting to shape up into AVP-R territory.
-suburbs
-predator hunting in a town
-ex marine soldier
-kids and family
-literal who? casting

But this time there is a budget and some talented men behind the camera.
Nothing wrong with the casting, the predator is the star anyway...

Yeah, the Predator didn't save AVP-R from being a bad movie and it had the most screen time. This is going to be such shit.

Game over man!Game over!

I understand some people have concerns over where this plot may go but I'm feeling really optimistic and excited

-Shane Black
-Fred Dekker
-R rated
-Great cinematographer
-Cast of talented up-in-comers plus the Punisher who did the "Dirty Laundry" short film
-Multiple locations
-Possibility of understanding more of the Predator language/culture/mythos
-Multiple Predators
-Characters who are all about attitude with different motivations

Shane Black made the last movie and it wasn't even all that great. It was just on the cusp of watchable and mediocre. You need big name actors who have done action films in the past for these films, not a bunch of D listers who at best have done supporting roles in big movies.

Quote from: genocyber on Jan 26, 2017, 02:25:20 AM
Shane Black made the last movie and it wasn't even all that great. It was just on the cusp of watchable and mediocre. You need big name actors who have done action films in the past for these films, not a bunch of D listers who at best have done supporting roles in big movies.

What last movie? Boyd Holbrook is great in Narcos, Thomas Jane has been great in most of his films


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Quote from: genocyber on Jan 26, 2017, 02:25:20 AM
Shane Black made the last movie and it wasn't even all that great. It was just on the cusp of watchable and mediocre. You need big name actors who have done action films in the past for these films, not a bunch of D listers who at best have done supporting roles in big movies.

Shane Black hasn't been involved in the Predator franchise since the original.

Quote from: genocyber on Jan 26, 2017, 02:25:20 AM
Shane Black made the last movie and it wasn't even all that great. It was just on the cusp of watchable and mediocre.

What the heck are you talking about ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

QuoteYou need big name actors who have done action films in the past for these films,

Says who? Not the director or casting agent. This is an R rated movie and everyone cynical about the cast was expecting/suggesting casts that rival The Avengers' monumentally expensive bunch. Film is a business.

QuoteSays who? Not the director or casting agent. This is an R rated movie and everyone cynical about the cast was expecting/suggesting casts that rival The Avengers' monumentally expensive bunch. Film is a business.

Star power always brings in the big dollars. It helps better advertise your product.

Short list of actors to choose from that really could elevate this kind of material.

-Dwayne Johnson
-Jessica Biel
-Harrison Ford
-Dolph Lundgren
-Terry Crews
-Michael B Jordan
-Jessica Biel
-Ronda Rousey
-Henry Cavill

Quote from: genocyber on Jan 26, 2017, 02:38:35 AM

QuoteSays who? Not the director or casting agent. This is an R rated movie and everyone cynical about the cast was expecting/suggesting casts that rival The Avengers' monumentally expensive bunch. Film is a business.

Star power always brings in the big dollars.

The last Expendables film had 3 of the people on your list and it bombed. "Always" isn't the word I'd use:


-Dwayne Johnson- Hercules bombed
-Jessica Biel- Same star power as Thomas Jane
-Harrison Ford- Paranoia bombed
-Dolph Lundgren- Too many bombs to count and not an A-lister
-Terry Crews- Same star power as Thomas Jane and does Adam Sandler movies
-Michael B Jordan- Fant4stic bombed
-Jessica Biel- Hmmm.....an interesting addition to make your list longer
-Ronda Rousey- Terrible Actress and the worst part of F7, plus has as many haters as she does fans
-Henry Cavill- Man from UNCLE and Cold Light of Day bombed.

You should consider the possibility that perhaps Shane Black would like to spend the budget elsewhere, not just on the cast.


ALSO: what did you mean when you said "Shane Black made the last movie and it wasn't even all that great. It was just on the cusp of watchable and mediocre"  ???

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Sorry, not three but FOUR of the people on your list were in the bomb that was Expendables 3

Lol really? You're going to cite Hercules as a bomb?

I mean that is straight up like me saying Tom Cruise is a box office draw, and you citing Legend as proof he isn't a box office draw. Don't get ridiculous up in here.

Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Jan 26, 2017, 02:59:45 AM
Lol really? You're going to cite Hercules as a bomb? It made 2.5x its budget, which is not great but ok. Not an outright bomb.

Oh okay, I didn't bother checking since it seemed like such a nothing of a movie. How'd Snitch and Faster do? If they did "ok" then I still hesitate to say Dwayne is a sure bet considering his salary must be high.

QuoteDwayne Johnson is still a box office draw though. San Andreas, Moana, Central Intelligence were all smash hits.

I agree.

QuoteLooking through your other examples...wow! You're citing these under-performers but not citing the actors' successes. You're crazy. Michael B. Jordan for example was part of an ensemble in Fantastic Four yet acquired great success with Creed. Not a logical, cogent guy.

You miss the point I made, friend. "ALWAYS" is not the correct word to use when describing the money these people pull in just for being in a film. That's not to say they aren't successful or haven't been in good films that have made money. Simply put: it takes more than their names to draw audiences. Expendables 3 is the perfect example of this, as it was a franchise with a star-studded cast and yet audiences expect more (ie: a film that is good).

I chose many of these actors because of how well they would work as an ensemble over them each having a stand alone feature. Dwayne Johnson would be the perfect leading man in a movie like this, with Harrison Ford as some kind of military superior who has inside info on the Predator that could be either an ally or enemy for the group.

Dwayne Johnson is a box office draw and that is that is that. I won't engage further.

Quote from: genocyber on Jan 26, 2017, 03:08:56 AM
I chose many of these actors because of how well they would work as an ensemble over them each having a stand alone feature.

Expendables 3 was an ensemble film and not a standalone feature. Had Ford, Crews, Lundgren, and Rousey.

QuoteDwayne Johnson would be the perfect leading man in a movie like this,

I'd agree if he wasn't already so busy he probably only gets 2 hours of sleep per night. Are you going to blame them for not casting Dwayne Johnson in yet another franchise?

Quotewith Harrison Ford as some kind of military superior who has inside info on the Predator that could be either an ally or enemy for the group.

I get you want big names for the film (Rhodes, Holbrook, and Brown are stars in the making imho), but I'm just saying their names aren't "guarantees" slapped on the poster, and perhaps Black needs the budget to go elsewhere.

Not all the actors I listed were in Expendables 3. Lest we forget they all have had successful careers beforehand. The shortcomings of that movie came down to it being a PG 13 bloodless film.

Again I reiterate: Dwayne Johnson. The guy works magic on anything with action.

Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Jan 26, 2017, 03:17:12 AM
Dwayne Johnson is a box office draw and that is that is that. I won't engage further.

I didn't say he wasn't. Also, before you deleted your comment, you said Hercules made 2.5x its budget back. Box Office mojo states it cost $100 million and made $72 million domestically and $244 million worldwide, which the studio doesn't get 100% of if I'm not mistaken.

I think you're saying I'm crazy and illogical because you're not following the clear argument being made. I'll lay it out plainly:

-Genocyber said "Star power always brings in the big dollars"
-I gave examples on why that is factually incorrect.

That doesn't mean star power never brings in big dollars or that the stars on his list are failures. They are great, imo.

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Quote from: genocyber on Jan 26, 2017, 03:24:02 AM
Not all the actors I listed were in Expendables 3.

I know, that's why I listed the 4 that were.

QuoteLest we forget they all have had successful careers beforehand.

I definitely didn't forget that. Lest we forget your original claim that their names always bring in the money. Simply not true.

QuoteThe shortcomings of that movie came down to it being a PG 13 bloodless film.

Almost as if audiences care more about the film itself than the stars in it, huh?

QuoteAgain I reiterate: Dwayne Johnson. The guy works magic on anything with action.

Why are you reiterating the part I've agreed with multiple times?

I guess I'll reiterate something then: why did you say "Shane Black made the last movie and it wasn't even all that great. It was just on the cusp of watchable and mediocre"  ??? Did you really think Shane Black made Predators?

Quote from: Daz1999 on Jan 25, 2017, 10:17:43 PM
How is it not canon?

sorry i dont want to derail the topic but is juat that since Predator 2 there has been nothing good on movies, and even if this movie is good i think they will do so much stuff different that it wont count as canon

Quote from: nanison on Jan 26, 2017, 12:13:22 AM
Good news, I was wondering what the new angle was going to be and it's something I never thought about.
I like the fact that this will finally portray the predator as an intelligent species and not just a killing machine monster (we have aliens for that). After all those creatures build space ships which humans beings can't yet. So naturally they have a language, morality, intelligence etc

Looks interesting and original. There's more to them than killing and skinning creatures...

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Be serious really who wanted yet another round of a predator killing of a bunch of tough guys? And yet people are talking about a lack of creativity in sequels/reboots.

they showed us that they are intelligent species that  are also killing machine monsters, just like us, they use their free time to hunt, aliens are both those things too, and i actually would not mind if we always got the same movie, Predator vs Cowboy, Predator vs Samurai, the possibilites are endless  without changing the formula, only the setting, but i get what you mean

QuoteAlmost as if audiences care more about the film itself than the stars in it, huh?

Well the film made 214.6 million dollars in the box office over its 90 million dollar budget, so despite it not being as good as it should have been it was still a success. The PG 13 point I brought up was a common complaint of why the film was not viewed so favorably compared to the previous two. Their is also a fourth planned, so yes the audiences do care about the stars in it.

QuoteDid you really think Shane Black made Predators?

Yeah sorry, I retract that. I made an error on that part that I double checked on. Point for you on that. Although, I still don't trust Shane Black directing this. He feels better as a writer than a director. Iron Man 3 was a mess.

QuoteWhy are you reiterating the part I've agreed with multiple times?

You seemed to allude to him being unable to take part in this kind of project. I imagine he gets freedom to pick and choose what he wants, and if his schedule is filled its better to book him when his slot is free and wait. I know Marvel did that with Cumberbatch for Doctor Strange and it seemed to work well there.

Also I just want to point out that we're going to have a Predator movie with an autistic kid in a lead role who figures out their language. If you folks are going to go along with this then I don't ever want to hear bitching about the hieroglyph reading in AVP ever again.

This film needs someone like Benedict Cumberbatch in an over-the-top Bill Paxton role

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Quote from: genocyber on Jan 26, 2017, 04:02:55 AM

QuoteAlmost as if audiences care more about the film itself than the stars in it, huh?

Well the film made 214.6 million dollars in the box office over its 90 million dollar budget, so despite it not being as good as it should have been it was still a success.

That's a worldwide number, though, so the studio only gets a portion of that $214 million. All I know is it came out at #4 opening weekend despite having the biggest ensemble of stars.

QuoteThe PG 13 point I brought up was a common complaint of why the film was not viewed so favorably compared to the previous two.

Yeah, I'm saying the decisions made around the film hurt it's box office and quality overall. Movies can be bigger than their stars now, and people usually won't want more of what they don't like; which is why I'm betting Expendables 4 will be R rated and focus on what fans loved about the first 2 (not a group of young Expendables).

QuoteTheir is also a fourth planned, so yes the audiences do care about the stars in it.

Well we will have to see how well the 4th does and if the amount of people who show up warrants the amount they're paying everyone in addition to the rest of the budget.

QuoteI still don't trust Shane Black directing this. He feels better as a writer than a director. Iron Man 3 was a mess.

That's fair, I can see why some fans wouldn't like IM3. Personally, I liked it and know Shane could only do so much in a restrictive Marvel universe. He's more in his element with Predator, though.

QuoteYou seemed to allude to [Dwayne Johnson] being unable to take part in this kind of project. I imagine he gets freedom to pick and choose what he wants, and if his schedule is filled its better to book him when his slot is free and wait. I know Marvel did that with Cumberbatch for Doctor Strange and it seemed to work well there.

His schedule is filled to the point he's risking over saturation. Don't get me wrong, I think Dwayne Johnson is great, but he has a crazy amount on his agenda. It's to the point that if he were cast, and The Predator is a success, we wouldn't see a sequel for another 8 years (I'm guessing). I mean, when is San Andreas getting a sequel? I imagine the studio  (and fans) wants to reinvigorate the Predator franchise and not wait over 5 years for its sequels. Sure, you can say "it's worth it to make a good movie" but the studio and Shane Black is banking on making a good movie with the cast and talent they have now.

QuoteAlso I just want to point out that we're going to have a Predator movie with an autistic kid in a lead role who figures out their language. If you folks are going to go along with this then I don't ever want to hear bitching about the hieroglyph reading in AVP ever again.

Boyd Holbrook actually has the lead role, not the kid.

And as much as I can appreciate the AVP movies, the hieroglyph reading was the least of its issues and didn't bother me. I personally can suspend my belief with the kid, as it's been discussed in this thread why it may not be so farfetched (especially considering other moments that require suspension of belief even in the original film).

This movie just took a turn for the worse. Here comes another AVPR style movie. A kid? Really? Talking to the predator? Way to jump the F-ing shark....

Quote from: brokentusk420 on Jan 26, 2017, 06:26:10 AM
This movie just took a turn for the worse. Here comes another AVPR style movie. A kid? Really? Talking to the predator? Way to jump the F-ing shark....

Nobody said the kid is going to talk to the Predator.

It'll be the equivalent to a blind man reading brail if it happens at all.

I really don't get why people are getting upset over the cast. it's really quite a good group of mid-level players, new blood, and a sprinkling of veterans.

The Pred/kid aspect is one of those things that we'll just have to wait and see on screen and see how it works within the context of the movie.

I didn't want another by the numbers Pred killing tough guys one by one movie. I wanted them to expand on what Predator 2 introduced and it looks like we might be getting that. Fingers crossed the team can give us something unique and good. I loved the whole government/alien aspect P2 started.

In regards to the cast I was vocal about wanting atleast one A list star. Hardy/Affleck/Gosling - I'd love to see these guys in a Predator movie. The announcements are disappointing at first but you can then move on and see what Black and the actors can deliver. Hopefully Black is happy with his cast. 2/3 years ago Dwayne Johnson would have been my top pick, top guy and top actor for this genre. However now the guy is too big, I feel like I'd just be watching him cash in on another franchise.

I'm hoping Black can get some solid performances out of this interesting cast and build a solid movie around them. Add a well designed and acted Predator to that and hopefullly it all comes together as one solid movie. Fingers crossed.

I don't actually mind that leaked synopsis being true as it's a completely new narrative setup for a Predator film. I like that it doesn't sound like a rehash of the other films because, let's face it, they were somewhat basic.

In regards to Tremblay's character deciphering the Predator language - I'm with those who don't like the idea of it being the spoken language but I honestly don't mind the idea he's able to see something in the written language. There's plenty of different types of autism and I wont pretend to be an expert on the matter but my understanding is that there's some who are extremely focused on certain subjects so someone being autistic who has an intense interest in language really doesn't seem that much of a stretch.

He's another actor who I'm not familiar with but seems to have a lot of buzz and hype around him. By all accounts he's another talented actor and if that's the case, I'm very happy to have him aboard. I like that this cast seems to be about talent rather than flashy names.

I like the idea of the kid seeing something in the Predator symbols because of his autism, like decoding certain messages or meanings. I wouldn't want the kid to speak directly with them though, that would be weird but i just like the fact that they want to expand some of the mythology and make them even more grounded as actual characters.

Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Jan 26, 2017, 10:32:08 AM
I like the idea of the kid seeing something in the Predator symbols because of his autism, like decoding certain messages or meanings. I wouldn't want the kid to speak directly with them though, that would be weird but i just like the fact that they want to expand some of the mythology and make them even more grounded as actual characters.

I feel the same way. I'd hate to see the kid making clicking noises but reading the written language isn't something I'm too bothered by, especially if his character is an expert at linguistics. But it is great to see that Black and Dekker want to do something different than the usual hunt story.

Iron man 3 was great....if you were European lol. We enjoyed that movie. (and I still do actually)

Plot sounds cool for this one. Kinda like the Predator comic "Invaders from the 4th dimension"

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This looks like a winner to me, and I don't need the Rock for this to work. We got the Punisher!  :P

Quote from: Hemi on Jan 26, 2017, 11:30:48 AMIron man 3 was great....if you were European lol. We enjoyed that movie. (and I still do actually)

Yeah, I really liked Iron Man 3. I honestly don't think I've ever seen a Shane Black film I didn't really enjoy.

https://twitter.com/JacobTremblay/status/824386679347646465

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 26, 2017, 10:33:53 AM

Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Jan 26, 2017, 10:32:08 AM
I like the idea of the kid seeing something in the Predator symbols because of his autism, like decoding certain messages or meanings. I wouldn't want the kid to speak directly with them though, that would be weird but i just like the fact that they want to expand some of the mythology and make them even more grounded as actual characters.

I feel the same way. I'd hate to see the kid making clicking noises but reading the written language isn't something I'm too bothered by, especially if his character is an expert at linguistics. But it is great to see that Black and Dekker want to do something different than the usual hunt story.

I have some knowledge on the subject and there are evidences of people with Asperger syndrome doing outstanding things in different fields, like linguistics, but what we are talking here is different thing entirely. I don't like the idea cause it's alien language. Not foreign. Alien! Made by creatures entirely different then  we are, with totally different structure , concetp and meaning. Reading predator symbols is like understanding their clicks and roars, impossible and preposterous.

Quote from: Master on Jan 26, 2017, 04:14:30 PM
Not foreign. Alien! Reading predator symbols is like understanding their clicks and roars, impossible and preposterous.

It's illogical to think the clicks and roars are their language. I think those are just sounds made during the hunt for intimidation or to spook their prey. Let's not forget that Predators can speak English. We do not see them communicate with each other using a series of clicks and roars.

If we found an undiscovered group of tribal people in the amazon and they came at us screaming with their Spears hoisted up, would we think they communicate through screaming?

I think the idea of a gifted child developing some degree of understanding of the Yautja language could either be interesting or silly, depending on how it plays out.

Quote from: Stealth_Hunter on Jan 26, 2017, 04:20:39 PM

Quote from: Master on Jan 26, 2017, 04:14:30 PM
Not foreign. Alien! Reading predator symbols is like understanding their clicks and roars, impossible and preposterous.

It's illogical to think the clicks and roars are their language. I think those are just sounds made during the hunt for intimidation or to spook their prey. Let's not forget that Predators can speak English. We do not see them communicate with each other using a series of clicks and roars.

If we found an undiscovered group of tribal people in the amazon and they came at us screaming with their Spears hoisted up, would we think they communicate through screaming?

You're missing the point.

I don't have a problem with it if like Huda says, its handled properly. Considering the actual believability of this franchise in general its not really a problem.

It could go either way but I think it'll play out just fine with Black in the directors chair.

Quote from: Keith on Jan 26, 2017, 04:11:00 AM
This film needs someone like Benedict Cumberbatch in an over-the-top Bill Paxton role

http://gif-finder.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Benedict-Cumberbatch-Middle-Finger.gif

Hah I'd love that! Him or Ethan Hawke would be fantastic news.

Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Jan 26, 2017, 11:53:16 AM
https://twitter.com/JacobTremblay/status/824386679347646465

Little does he know he could just offer the Predator some candy.

I'm open to the kid concept though- might be amusing to watch.

Lol some of you seriously want just another "A group of XYZ(people with guns) in the location of ABC(probably desert, you guys have such a desert boner. Story and characters > location) get picked off one by one by an alien hunter, while one character during the beginning of Act 3 makes a reference to Dutch's team).

Amazing.

Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Jan 26, 2017, 04:47:01 PM
Lol some of you seriously want just another "A group of XYZ(people with guns) in the location of ABC(probably desert, you guys have such a desert boner. Story and characters > location) get picked off one by one by an alien hunter, while one character during the beginning of Act 3 makes a reference to Dutch's team).

Amazing.

Well what would you prefer?? :P

One thing I don't want is for the child to have a relationship with the Predator. I think that's pushing it. I don't think that will happen, but just throwing it out there. 

Quote from: echobbase79 on Jan 26, 2017, 05:16:30 PM
One thing I don't want is for the child to have a relationship with the Predator. I think that's pushing it. I don't think that will happen, but just throwing it out there.

Of course that would be wrong and gross, Predators should only have a romantic relationships with creatures over a certain age. It would certainly bring new meaning to the show "to catch a predator"  :D

I'm j/k

Quote from: 426Buddy on Jan 26, 2017, 05:21:27 PM

Quote from: echobbase79 on Jan 26, 2017, 05:16:30 PM
One thing I don't want is for the child to have a relationship with the Predator. I think that's pushing it. I don't think that will happen, but just throwing it out there.

Of course that would be wrong and gross, Predators should only have a romantic relationships with creatures over a certain age. It would certainly bring new meaning to the show "to catch a predator"  :D

I'm j/k

:laugh:

Quote from: 426Buddy on Jan 26, 2017, 05:21:27 PM

Quote from: echobbase79 on Jan 26, 2017, 05:16:30 PM
One thing I don't want is for the child to have a relationship with the Predator. I think that's pushing it. I don't think that will happen, but just throwing it out there.

Of course that would be wrong and gross, Predators should only have a romantic relationships with creatures over a certain age. It would certainly bring new meaning to the show "to catch a predator"  :D

I'm j/k

Big casting news!

Chris Hansen to face off against the Predator!  :D

:D

This time the predator offers the little boy some candy.

Quote from: Master on Jan 26, 2017, 04:31:46 PM

Quote from: Stealth_Hunter on Jan 26, 2017, 04:20:39 PM

Quote from: Master on Jan 26, 2017, 04:14:30 PM
Not foreign. Alien! Reading predator symbols is like understanding their clicks and roars, impossible and preposterous.

It's illogical to think the clicks and roars are their language. I think those are just sounds made during the hunt for intimidation or to spook their prey. Let's not forget that Predators can speak English. We do not see them communicate with each other using a series of clicks and roars.

If we found an undiscovered group of tribal people in the amazon and they came at us screaming with their Spears hoisted up, would we think they communicate through screaming?

You're missing the point.

Sorry, Master, I re-read your post and I think I get the point you're making. I'm not an expert in the linguistics field by any means. I'm curious if you've seen the movie 'Arrival' and if you have, what's your take on it regarding the alien language humans have to decypher? Is it a fool's errand to even try?

Another question I have is if it's preposterous for humans to understand Predator language, is it just as preposterous for Predators to understand ours?

Quote from: echobbase79 on Jan 26, 2017, 05:42:32 PM

Quote from: 426Buddy on Jan 26, 2017, 05:21:27 PM

Quote from: echobbase79 on Jan 26, 2017, 05:16:30 PM
One thing I don't want is for the child to have a relationship with the Predator. I think that's pushing it. I don't think that will happen, but just throwing it out there.

Of course that would be wrong and gross, Predators should only have a romantic relationships with creatures over a certain age. It would certainly bring new meaning to the show "to catch a predator"  :D

I'm j/k

Big casting news!

Chris Hansen to face off against the Predator!  :D

His weapon of choice, the deadly seat!

Quote from: echobbase79 on Jan 26, 2017, 05:16:30 PM
One thing I don't want is for the child to have a relationship with the Predator. I think that's pushing it. I don't think that will happen, but just throwing it out there.

Maybe they Will follow the footsteps of Anderson and do it.

Quote from: Predator_Spirit on Jan 26, 2017, 06:34:35 PM

Quote from: echobbase79 on Jan 26, 2017, 05:16:30 PM
One thing I don't want is for the child to have a relationship with the Predator. I think that's pushing it. I don't think that will happen, but just throwing it out there.

Maybe they Will follow the footsteps of Anderson and do it.

AVP was a good love story.

Quote from: Stealth_Hunter on Jan 26, 2017, 06:09:10 PM

Quote from: Master on Jan 26, 2017, 04:31:46 PM

Quote from: Stealth_Hunter on Jan 26, 2017, 04:20:39 PM

Quote from: Master on Jan 26, 2017, 04:14:30 PM
Not foreign. Alien! Reading predator symbols is like understanding their clicks and roars, impossible and preposterous.

It's illogical to think the clicks and roars are their language. I think those are just sounds made during the hunt for intimidation or to spook their prey. Let's not forget that Predators can speak English. We do not see them communicate with each other using a series of clicks and roars.

If we found an undiscovered group of tribal people in the amazon and they came at us screaming with their Spears hoisted up, would we think they communicate through screaming?

You're missing the point.

Sorry, Master, I re-read your post and I think I get the point you're making. I'm not an expert in the linguistics field by any means. I'm curious if you've seen the movie 'Arrival' and if you have, what's your take on it regarding the alien language humans have to decypher? Is it a fool's errand to even try?

Another question I have is if it's preposterous for humans to understand Predator language, is it just as preposterous for Predators to understand ours?

I'm not linguistics expert either. But without knowing the meaning of sounds it doesn't seem possible. I  haven't seen Arrival yet, but heard about it and I  definitely will.

Predators have two advantages which make their understanding of human language more plausible. They are coming here for very long time and they are watching us in natural environment,  which gives context to the sounds we are making.

Now the most preposterous would be understanding of Predator marking. It's like trying to learn the meaning of Chinese text, written in chinise alphabet without ever seeing or hearing Chinise.

Hieroglyphs were decyphered only when a thesame writing was found in three languages and two of them were still being used.

Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Jan 26, 2017, 10:32:08 AM
I like the idea of the kid seeing something in the Predator symbols because of his autism, like decoding certain messages or meanings. I wouldn't want the kid to speak directly with them though, that would be weird but i just like the fact that they want to expand some of the mythology and make them even more grounded as actual characters.

It's f**king stupid is what it is. Autism does not make you into some mad genius who can think outside the box. Not everyone is Rain Man.

Quote from: genocyber on Jan 26, 2017, 10:14:16 PM

It's f**king stupid is what it is. Autism does not make you into some mad genius who can think outside the box. Not everyone is Rain Man.

Jesus Christ, it's a movie about an alien who has a hobby hunting humans. By saying "not everyone is rain man", you're saying not all fictional characters can be fictional characters.

It's not unrealistic at all that an above-average intelligent child would be a social outcast, and in general be labeled as autistic.

I'm looking forward to this kind of story. It doesn't sound like a rehash slasher movie that we had with every new Predator movie. We'll get to know them better but getting a glimpse of their writing, which opens a door for all sorts of new ideas.

Quote from: Master on Jan 26, 2017, 04:14:30 PM
I have some knowledge on the subject and there are evidences of people with Asperger syndrome doing outstanding things in different fields, like linguistics, but what we are talking here is different thing entirely. I don't like the idea cause it's alien language. Not foreign. Alien! Made by creatures entirely different then  we are, with totally different structure , concetp and meaning. Reading predator symbols is like understanding their clicks and roars, impossible and preposterous.

Agreed.

Quote from: Master on Jan 26, 2017, 07:00:19 PM
Predators have two advantages which make their understanding of human language more plausible. They are coming here for very long time and they are watching us in natural environment,  which gives context to the sounds we are making.

That makes a lot of sense.

We display some of this when we observe and interpret animal behaviour as displaying a certain mood.

"Dogs wag tail when happy," "cats wag tail when angry," "bearded dragons bob head when warning you to stay away from them," etc.

Predators would have a similar understanding of us. They won't speak our languages fluently, but they'd have run across certain words like "f**k" to know that we use it quite frequently in some parts of the world hence why they choose certain phrases at the most opportune moments. XD

And because we're sapient with a language of our own, they may actually have deciphered some meanings by observing how we react and respond to the words.

But our languages and theirs (I think they have multiple as well) would be as similar as the language of dolphins to ours which is to say, very alien.

Kids are mostly really annoying in movies.  Mostly.

Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Jan 26, 2017, 04:47:01 PM
Lol some of you seriously want just another "A group of XYZ(people with guns) in the location of ABC(probably desert, you guys have such a desert boner. Story and characters > location) get picked off one by one by an alien hunter, while one character during the beginning of Act 3 makes a reference to Dutch's team).

Amazing.

Well, when I watch a Predator film, I don't want to see some bastardized version of "Close Encounters" instead.

Too bad. Shane and Fred are redefining what a traditional "Predator" film is. This'll be a great shot in the arm for the franchise. You want Ten Little Indians, you can watch the other five Predator movies. A Spielbergian, R-rated Predator film from Shane Black is coming our way. Man, you guys ain't ever had it so good.

You can go to The Cheesecake Factory any ol' day, but tonight you're having Il Fornaio.

Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Jan 27, 2017, 01:22:09 AM
Too bad. Shane and Fred are redefining what a traditional "Predator" film is. This'll be a great shot in the arm for the franchise. You want Ten Little Indians, you can watch the other five Predator movies. A Spielbergian, R-rated Predator film from Shane Black is coming our way. Man, you guys ain't ever had it so good.

You can go to The Cheesecake Factory any ol' day, but tonight you're having Il Fornaio.

Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Jan 27, 2017, 01:22:09 AM
You can go to The Cheesecake Factory any ol' day, but tonight you're having Il Fornaio.

That's not what I ordered.

Quote from: Keith on Jan 27, 2017, 02:12:15 AM

Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Jan 27, 2017, 01:22:09 AM
You can go to The Cheesecake Factory any ol' day, but tonight you're having Il Fornaio.

That's not what I ordered.

Well said  :D

If the film doesn't follow the structure of a Predator film, then it's not a Predator film. It's PINO (Predator In Name Only).

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Quote from: Keith on Jan 27, 2017, 04:19:12 AM
If the film doesn't follow the structure of a Predator film, then it's not a Predator film. It's PINO (Predator In Name Only).

I disagree. Movies in a single franchise do not need to follow the same structure of storytelling. Especially when it comes to The Predator - it's a franchise with so much left to explore. I don't fault them for not rehashing the same story.

QuoteThat's not what I ordered.

At least you don't have to pay lol

Quote from: Keith on Jan 27, 2017, 02:12:15 AM

Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Jan 27, 2017, 01:22:09 AM
You can go to The Cheesecake Factory any ol' day, but tonight you're having Il Fornaio.

That's not what I ordered.

You don't have to eat at this restaurant.

The last time Predator fans were given a film that followed the Predator formula, there was a lot of complaining (I still dig Predators though). Personally I'm really looking forward to something that breaks the mold a bit. I've always said Predator is an incredibly versatile series, it just needs the chance to play with that versatility. And hopefully Black pulls it off in a convincing way.

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 27, 2017, 08:35:59 AM
The last time Predator fans were given a film that followed the Predator formula, there was a lot of complaining (I still dig Predators though). Personally I'm really looking forward to something that breaks the mold a bit. I've always said Predator is an incredibly versatile series, it just needs the chance to play with that versatility. And hopefully Black pulls it off in a convincing way.

Absolutely, just look at the hundreds of comic books, partly with very interesting storylines that would make awesome movies, fans even wanted a pirate Predator movie because of P2's elder... yet, people always seem to want the same movie over and over and when they get it (Predators) they call "knock-off!". I love this franchise, but man... that fan community...  :-\

Hard ass commando in jungle? Check
Detective action in LA? Check

Let's move on.

Having a team of hard asses is not a bad formula to have, just don't put them back in the jungle again. Personally I would have put the Predator in the middle of a war zone somewhere in Africa.

And then do what?

Yeah, the idea that this film should be just like the previous ones ridiculous.

Go down that route and you get The Force Awakens-style soulless rehashing. I'd much rather they tried something new.

It's not really about the setting, though I'd love some desert action, but about the plot.

My main problem with Ps is not about what it rehashed from P1(even though it was annoying) but what it teased and didn't deliver  ("Shit you wouldn't believe" and we don't,  cause we haven't seen any).

What I'd love to see (and I've been saying it for years) is reversed scenario. Make Predator on the run. Show us super prepared human task force  with equipment and man power to actually go after predator. Go big! Give them tanks and choopers! Make the creature vulnerable, wounded and chased. Then reverse the plot again and show us the Predator live up to its name! Garber was told he'll get another chance and I want this chance taken.

What I don't want to see is autistic kid decyphering Predator symbols. It's stupid. Autism is a disease. Just like jumping into toxic waste,  it doesn't give you super powers, just makes your life harder. You know what. Make kid straight forward psychic,  like Forest Whitaker in Species. It's as unrealistic as autism superpowers, but much less convoulted.

Quote from: Master on Jan 27, 2017, 10:45:03 AM

What I'd love to see (and I've been saying it for years) is reversed scenario. Make Predator on the run. Show us super prepared human task force  with equipment and man power to actually go after predator. Go big! Give them tanks and choopers! Make the creature vulnerable, wounded and chased. Then reverse the plot again and show us the Predator live up to its name! Garber was told he'll get another chance and I want this chance taken.

Indeed. As I like to call it the "X-Com" scenario. Humans learning to turn the tables on a larger scale... Though I don't know about tanks.

Predator set's the story in place, Predator 2, on some level, gave us two hints at threads. The fact Predators have been on Earth a long time, and that there is government activity regarding them. Though I think the latter has more potential. Plus you could also borrow elements from things like Bad Blood Predators, with no rules governing them at all... I mean take it to different places. Don't just do a half dozen "badasses" up against a Predator. We've gotten a lot of that. Take it somewhere.

There's still more work to be done before that though. I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if The Predator touches on that kind of thing, with a worldwide agency trying to track the Predators.

Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Jan 27, 2017, 05:33:19 AM

Quote from: Keith on Jan 27, 2017, 02:12:15 AM

Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Jan 27, 2017, 01:22:09 AM
You can go to The Cheesecake Factory any ol' day, but tonight you're having Il Fornaio.

That's not what I ordered.

You don't have to eat at this restaurant.

The restaurant don't have to change the menu.

Quote from: Predator_Spirit on Jan 27, 2017, 12:47:45 PM

Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Jan 27, 2017, 05:33:19 AM

Quote from: Keith on Jan 27, 2017, 02:12:15 AM

Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Jan 27, 2017, 01:22:09 AM
You can go to The Cheesecake Factory any ol' day, but tonight you're having Il Fornaio.

That's not what I ordered.

You don't have to eat at this restaurant.

The restaurant don't have to change the menu.

If you want the same menu go back and watch Predator, but don't expect people to come with you. We're at the other restaurant in the meantime, you know, the one that gives people more than old, warmed up stuff from tin cans.

Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Jan 27, 2017, 05:33:19 AM

Quote from: Keith on Jan 27, 2017, 02:12:15 AM

Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Jan 27, 2017, 01:22:09 AM
You can go to The Cheesecake Factory any ol' day, but tonight you're having Il Fornaio.

That's not what I ordered.

You don't have to eat at this restaurant.

Enjoy your PINO.

I think we will, but thx anyway!  8)

Alright gents, let's not get snobby with each other please. This isn't IMDB.

All hail Shane Black.

Some parts of this movie could feel like Monster Squad. Black and Dekker did write that after all. So I'm not surprised with the kids being involved in this. This will probably just a small aspect of the picture though.

So does this mean the ex marine had an encounter with a Predator and won? Since he has some of their tech I'm assuming that's the case.
It's an interesting route for them to take, especially with the son's character. I think it can work.

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 27, 2017, 10:12:14 AM
And then do what?

Well with different terrain comes different dangers and reasons for the characters. Africa is an often densely populated and dry place. The Predator likes hunting where its hot, and it could arrive in the middle of a civil war uprising breaking out. American commandos are sent in to scout the situation and get caught up in the fighting. Meanwhile the Predator begins picking off groups and then members of the team.

So basically Predator 1-5, just with a different setting thus a new opportunity for a different hue!

This time it's in a jungle! This time a city! This time the snow! This time a small town!

...this time, you're going to get to see some orange! Because...DESERT!!!!!!

fanbases cling hard to nostalgia.

Quote from: genocyber on Jan 27, 2017, 08:23:00 PM

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 27, 2017, 10:12:14 AM
And then do what?

Well with different terrain comes different dangers and reasons for the characters. Africa is an often densely populated and dry place. The Predator likes hunting where its hot, and it could arrive in the middle of a civil war uprising breaking out. American commandos are sent in to scout the situation and get caught up in the fighting. Meanwhile the Predator begins picking off groups and then members of the team.

Boring, let's have something new!

Yeah, the franchise has to change in some way. I really hope Black has a scene with the Predator's showing how their culture works.

The problem with the Predator is the more you risk showing, the less interesting and scary it gets.

They tried to go back with the mystery with Predators and came off like a remake of the first film in a lot of ways. This sequel has to take some chances so it can broaden out to create a more larger fan base and kick start the franchise again. It has practically been dead since Predator 2.

Hopefully, the new film will have a give and take of showing enough, but not showing a lot.

Quote from: genocyber on Jan 28, 2017, 12:59:37 AM
The problem with the Predator is the more you risk showing, the less interesting and scary it gets.

The same incorrect statement can be said about Alien (and I think many are excited/interested in Covenant).

Shane Black writes excellent kid characters. Just look at Gosling's daughter in The Nice Guy, she stole the whole show.

And Danielle Harris from The Last Boy Scout. Also, Murtaugh's family from Lethal Weapon movies.

Yeah, that gravestone had a lot of personality. ;)

Quote from: KiramidHead on Jan 28, 2017, 03:59:52 AM
Yeah, that gravestone had a lot of personality. ;)

lol

Murtaugh.

Sorry, couldn't resist the joke.

Quote from: KiramidHead on Jan 28, 2017, 04:26:03 AM
Sorry, couldn't resist the joke.

Don't blame you.  ;)

Quote from: Stealth_Hunter on Jan 28, 2017, 01:14:35 AMThe same incorrect statement can be said about Alien (and I think many are excited/interested in Covenant).

None of the Alien films have ever shown us where the creatures come from or how they came to be. Sure, apparently Covenant is gonna reveal that stuff, but to be honest, I'm worried about where they're going to go with it.

genocyber's right, showing too much of the Predator's culture will make them less interesting.

Quote from: HuDaFuK on Jan 28, 2017, 09:42:39 AM

Quote from: Stealth_Hunter on Jan 28, 2017, 01:14:35 AMThe same incorrect statement can be said about Alien (and I think many are excited/interested in Covenant).

None of the Alien films have ever shown us where the creatures come from or how they came to be. Sure, apparently Covenant is gonna reveal that stuff, but to be honest, I'm worried about where they're going to go with it.

genocyber's right, showing too much of the Predator's culture will make them less interesting.

Maybe, but the franchise has to expand regardless. If not showing the Predator culture, then something else.

Quote from: HuDaFuK on Jan 28, 2017, 09:42:39 AM

Quote from: Stealth_Hunter on Jan 28, 2017, 01:14:35 AMThe same incorrect statement can be said about Alien (and I think many are excited/interested in Covenant).

None of the Alien films have ever shown us where the creatures come from or how they came to be. Sure, apparently Covenant is gonna reveal that stuff, but to be honest, I'm worried about where they're going to go with it.

genocyber's right, showing too much of the Predator's culture will make them less interesting.

I don't want to see Predator culture like it's a documentary (in fact I prefer to not see the Predator home world), I do want to see more of how their presence impacts Earth on a whole, though. And why not see how they react if, say, their tech is intercepted? The Predator can remain hidden and a mystery while still exploring more of this franchise's universe and establishing how certain groups go about in dealing with Predators.

Showing more but definitely not less interesting imo.

There's more reason to be optimistic about this film than about Covenant.

Quote from: KiramidHead on Jan 28, 2017, 03:46:38 AM
Shane Black writes excellent kid characters. Just look at Gosling's daughter in The Nice Guy, she stole the whole show.

THIS. The kid is probably gonna drop fbombs left and right.  :laugh:

It's not like the kid is going to decypher a book called "Everything about us in 2 volumes", he'll probably just decypher some detail like "they hunt because they lost a bet" or something.


As for the kid in the movie, I have this scene in my head now, like the Predator stumbled onto the kid accidentally, the kid noticed him but wasn't scared, the Predator was confused as to why the kid is not scared and tries to break stuff and look menacing to him, but the kid doesn't budge. Eventually the Predator gives up.

Quote from: Stealth_Hunter on Jan 28, 2017, 04:50:51 PM

Quote from: HuDaFuK on Jan 28, 2017, 09:42:39 AM

Quote from: Stealth_Hunter on Jan 28, 2017, 01:14:35 AMThe same incorrect statement can be said about Alien (and I think many are excited/interested in Covenant).

None of the Alien films have ever shown us where the creatures come from or how they came to be. Sure, apparently Covenant is gonna reveal that stuff, but to be honest, I'm worried about where they're going to go with it.

genocyber's right, showing too much of the Predator's culture will make them less interesting.

I don't want to see Predator culture like it's a documentary (in fact I prefer to not see the Predator home world), I do want to see more of how their presence impacts Earth on a whole, though. And why not see how they react if, say, their tech is intercepted? The Predator can remain hidden and a mystery while still exploring more of this franchise's universe and establishing how certain groups go about in dealing with Predators.

Showing more but definitely not less interesting imo.

That could definitely work.

Or have a small scene of a Predator preparing his equipment for the hunt, maybe using some cool tech to sharpen his blades. Or show him installing something into his mask.

I heard somewhere, maybe Shane Black himself said it, but we might see "who maintains their tech?" Maybe show some Predators preparing the main one for the hunt or something.

So don't worry guys, we're not gonna see how Predators file their tax returns or anything. Just some cool and new little things that make the film unique and add something to the universe.

Quote from: echobbase79 on Jan 28, 2017, 04:33:32 PMMaybe, but the franchise has to expand regardless. If not showing the Predator culture, then something else.

Oh I agree it should show us something new, I just don't wanna see a Predator sitting at home or a Predator council or anything like that. That sort of stuff is best left to the imagination.

Quote from: HuDaFuK on Jan 29, 2017, 12:46:41 PM

Quote from: echobbase79 on Jan 28, 2017, 04:33:32 PMMaybe, but the franchise has to expand regardless. If not showing the Predator culture, then something else.

Oh I agree it should show us something new, I just don't wanna see a Predator sitting at home or a Predator council or anything like that. That sort of stuff is best left to the imagination.

The Predator version of All in the Family?  :laugh:

Quote from: HuDaFuK on Jan 29, 2017, 12:46:41 PM

Quote from: echobbase79 on Jan 28, 2017, 04:33:32 PMMaybe, but the franchise has to expand regardless. If not showing the Predator culture, then something else.

Oh I agree it should show us something new, I just don't wanna see a Predator sitting at home or a Predator council or anything like that. That sort of stuff is best left to the imagination.

I'd like to see the Predators communicating while they're hunting with one another. Showing how they work as group from their perspective. I don't mind seeing a council like environment either. Doesn't mean it has to show them arguing or doing something over dramatic. Maybe they're trying to plan their next hunt. As long as its shot right I think it could work. I really enjoyed the part in AvP- R showing Wolf in his private quarters. Something like that wouldn't bother me in the slightest.

Quote from: HuDaFuK on Jan 29, 2017, 12:46:41 PM

Quote from: echobbase79 on Jan 28, 2017, 04:33:32 PMMaybe, but the franchise has to expand regardless. If not showing the Predator culture, then something else.

Oh I agree it should show us something new, I just don't wanna see a Predator sitting at home or a Predator council or anything like that. That sort of stuff is best left to the imagination.

But don't you wanna see a scene of a group of Predators watching and commentating on Predator while drinking some cool Yautja brew? That'd be something new!  :P

Maybe in the DVD special features :)

Very interesting because my brother is autistic too and he has this kind of "ability", to learn language".

Quote from: HuDaFuK on Jan 29, 2017, 12:46:41 PM

Quote from: echobbase79 on Jan 28, 2017, 04:33:32 PMMaybe, but the franchise has to expand regardless. If not showing the Predator culture, then something else.

Oh I agree it should show us something new, I just don't wanna see a Predator sitting at home or a Predator council or anything like that. That sort of stuff is best left to the imagination.

Aye, there's a level you just don't need to get to but we can learn and develop the Predator as a species without showing them in the kitchen and lessening the mystery.

This is gonna be an "event" film eh?

Damn them, getting evidently talented actors to star in a film they want people to come and see!

Right, no Kids in an event film! Plus they don't cast the usual go-to b-movie action brigade... this is being done on the cheap for sure.

Biggest problem is, they announced a big budget big event movie but all of it is cheap as hell.

What exactly suggests "all of it is cheap as hell"?

Quote from: HuDaFuK on Feb 06, 2017, 03:33:10 PM
What exactly suggests "all of it is cheap as hell"?

It's filming in vancouver with real actors! No budget movies in vancouver, like, ever.

Quote from: HuDaFuK on Feb 06, 2017, 03:33:10 PM
What exactly suggests "all of it is cheap as hell"?

And don't say Vancouver, ADI or the cast. Because you're just complaining in circles against nothing.

 I think they're keeping everything a secret as much as possible because there's a big surprise and it's gonna be a bigger movie then we thought


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I like that they're not blowing cash on big names. It means the budget could be better distributed.

While I'm not overly familiar with them all, they all seem to be talented and have accolades. I'd much rather a talented cast than a bunch of "big" names and get something like Expendables.  :-X

Yes! I loved The Nice Guys so can't wait to see what Shane does next.

Does anyone else think they may be doing a Stranger TThings kind of vibe with the next Predator with these cast members?
It would be too parody IMHO.Then what gives? I can't imagine anything else.

Quote from: acrediblesource on Feb 08, 2017, 03:12:17 AM
Does anyone else think they may be doing a Stranger TThings kind of vibe with the next Predator with these cast members?
It would be too parody IMHO.Then what gives? I can't imagine anything else.

There will be a sci fi vibe and governmental workings explored some more I bet, but I'm pretty confident we're going to get a Predator film and not ET. They cast one kid and several adults so far (one adult being the lead). If they cast several kids and 2 adults and it took place in the 80s, I'd be worried. But they didn't, plus the script was turned in before Stranger Things was popular.

 Decipher languages my ass.

Unless this kid swaps out the "want some candy scene from pred 2" by surprise mimicking a predator  like the autistic kid in The mimic  with the spoons.  Im still thinking  itd be better to just call this a mac and me sequel.
I hate kids. (Its cool. I used to be one) in movies where they run the risk of destabilizing the whole thing.  It worked in Aliens because Rebecca Jordan was the literal only survivor of hadleys hope.  She didnt have to be a genius. Or special. Or autistic  or even female.  She just had to be a scared kid  that fit into the cooling ducts. And im pretty sure  she wasnt the only kid to fit.  Just the only one that was still  ferreting around in there when the sulaco pulled into orbit.  What the hell was i saying.  Oh yeah.  Shane blacks a great writer.  But this isnt the nice guys.  I hated losing Avp time  to some asshole pizzaboy who was in love. And i would prefer not to lose 45 minutes worth of film to "i have a son.  He is autistic.  Have to save my son. Give me back my son.  We did it. Im glad your my son"

For those of you concerned with yautja culture. And predators losing their scary factor. What the hell are you talking about.  Predator is not scary.   The Alien is scary.  Because it can physically tuck you under it arm and will carry you off. It borrows traits from its host to better prey on that species.  .  Predator can kill you . yes.  Doesnt mean he will.  But unlike the Alien. predators show a capacity for individual thought. Broken tusk. Ahab.  Light stepper.  Wolf.  Hell even three spot.
I see so many complaints about not wanting to see predator in the kitchen.  You kidding? We saw predators . Twice on film . Disinfect  some wounds and put on a bandaid. And i dunno about you. But that shit was fascinating as hell.  Keep  the "new" weapons to a minimum. . Alien tail whips?  Dumbass shurikens. Under utilized  falcon drone.  Triple length  reversible wrist blades?  Spend that extra  special fx m9ney on mime lessons.  Kevin peter hall did more hopping from  root to root  by the lake in val verde or letting his arms swing at his sides before  taking his stance against king Willie to show thinking Alien mind. Than all the crap  the last 3 directors forced down our throats with. Posturing.  Fancy weapons.  Needless roars..   Ian whytes performance improved dramatically from avp to avp2. So much so i thought it was a different actor. ALIEN FILM. PREDATOR FILM. Good comics. Its gonna be a good year.

Jacob getting his hands on some nice Predator gear, latest Instagram post below:

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    jacobtremblayNo plans for tonight? #NoProblem! Go watch my baby sis #EricaTremblay in @BeforeIFallFilm! #InTheatersNow! #loveher 💜

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Here is his latest movie

While we are here waiting for the trailer...

There is a funny  video from MTV.
Jacob Tremblay got a " Predator related " question  :P ( starts at 0:53)
So... Some predators are good.  :)
Which is absolutely true, based on the behind the sceen "spy" pics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO4z3vzEKfw&start=53

Haha, i guess good is a subjective term in this case

Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jan 03, 2018, 01:03:06 PM
Haha, i guess good is a subjective term in this case

It's the equivalent to this video:


We're the dear, the dudes are the Predators.

Jacob says, the aliens look so realistic in this movie.  :P
https://youtu.be/9KYngR_26ps?t=410

ADI built several suits for the regular preds