Jesus, just when you think things can’t get any worse, they do. Comic-Con have got the title of AvP2 down as: Alien vs. Predator 2: No Peace On Earth.
Alien vs. Predator 2: No Peace On Earth, American Gangster, Babylon AD, Balls of Fury, Beowulf, The Bourne Ultimatum, Coraline, Fred Claus, Get Smart, The Golden Compass, Hellboy 2: The Golden Army, I Am Legend, The Incredible Hulk, Indiana Jones 4, Invasion, Iron Man…
It’s arguably worse than the Survival of the Fittest tagline. I’m sure the directors will be quick to deny it if it isn’t true but Comic-Con must have got it from somewhere. It could be a Christmas-style tagline too I guess like “Whoever Wins… We Lose…” for AvP. Thanks to AB2K for the news.
EDIT: Colin Strause has since confirmed that it is in fact the tagline, not the title: “That’s not the name of the movie. Someone must of heard the tag line, and stuck it with the old name. “
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What worries me most is that they're obviously going through potential names. Why is AvP 2 not good enough for them? Aliens was just Aliens. Short, sweet, to the point. No need to cheese it up.
Exactly. AvP2. There. Use it.
Dunno, think it's quite fitting. :P It'd probably work better as a tagline, though it's hardly as original & striking as "In Space No One Can Hear You Scream"
Here's to hoping it's a tagline.
I think "(AVP2 - )Aliens vs. Predator " would be a good title for this movie, because its short like aliens and predator and they used anyway most aspects from those movies, so that it would be a cool and i think a normal title for such a movie^^ or what you are thinking about a perfect title.... anyway, the title "Alien vs. Predator 2: No Peace On Earth" is so absurd^^ and too long.
Darkness, why did you start the news item with "Jesus, just when you think things can't get any worse"... I thought the info we've received on AVP2 has been pretty good thus far (this aside)?
I would shorten it up to ALIEN VERSUS PREDATOR - NO PEACE if we HAD TO have this as a tagline... That or AVP-NO PEACE, but it would just be better if they just named it ALienS versus Predator instead of the first ALIEN VERSUS PREDATOR... If they had to buy the rights, so be it... It would be better, it would be as subtle as Alien/Aliens and it would distinguish the first from the second easily and without controversy...
Sorry, I'm still pissed off about the small budget of AvP2. But I was getting at the fact that many sites are still using the Survival of the Fittest tagline.
I'm not so sure a small budget will be a problem... it may well work in it's favour by not becoming too "OTT" like a few of the other films have been in places. They may have saved money due to the fact that the Brother's FX company is handling that side of things - the rest of the budget could have gone on the rest (in camera work) to bring it up to scratch.
Daz, despite the fact that the brothers own Hydraulx, they still have to pay their employees! I agree with you though and taking the LA FEMME NIKITA series as an example, the less money they have, the more creative and more story-driven they become, so I think (I am always optimistic) this may actually help the story, but given the fact that the Strauses already said the movie will be effects-heavy, has raised some doubts in my mind... A small budget (34 million, with or without promotional marketing costs included ??? ) plus visual-effects heaviness sound they will have to save money on perhaps too many places... But I am still confident that AVP2 will prevail where AVP failed and that we will get a run for our money... ;)
The low budget will clearly be evident on how the film looks and its set pieces. Even Anderson had to cut loads of stuff out of AvP because of budget reasons. But I also understand, that the low budget is the only reason this is R-Rated. Given what I was told last week, I'm fairly concerned about AvP2.
Hmmm, regarding set pieces I think the only major ones are the sewer, hospital, that miliraty building (seen in the behind the scenes snippet) and probably some home interiors from what we've heard/gathered - nothing major to construct, and most of it was filmed in outdoor locations? Pre-built! If a few "detail" sacrifices have to be made to ensure a higher rating, then I think it's perhaps worth it. Was there something you were told last week Darkness to prompt your fears that we haven't heard?
I can\'t say. All it would do is generate a lot more negativity towards AvP2 and I don\'t want to add to that. Fox are doing a fine job of that themselves.
Oh dear :-X Can you at least perhaps point to what it was regarding? Story, characters, creature design, FX or something?
Alien vs. Predator 2: No Peace On Earth Very bad title...Worst than the AvP2: Survival of Fittest.
Darkness-It's time to spill it bud. Itll make us feel worse if you DIDNT tell us.
Sorry, we've made a collective decision not to say anything.
Hmmm..........since when has the actual title of the movie altered the actual content of the movie. Stop over reacting and wait to and see it.
??? I had a bad, bad dream this morning about AVP2, and while it was not the title itself I felt this was, in a sense, a premonition of sorts ;D that being said, the only worse thing would be a straight to video release, but I hope that is not the case....
Kinda dumb not to tell the community something you know guys. This website wouldnt be here today without us. In my opinion, you owe it to us to know anything interesting.
Only AVP2. The tagline: Whoever Wins We Lose Again.
Yep. We come here on your site everyday(at least I do) you have to say something. How do you know anyway? Anyway, yeah, say something please. If you werent gonna say anything you shouldnt have mentioned it in the first place >:( :( :-[
Did they hire a three year old to come up with the title?
thats not the name Colin confirmed iT!
Thank god. Still, not the greatest tagline, but its way better than it being used as a title.
On Earth, everybody can hear you scream :P
That was originally going to be used for Alien3... :D
It must really be bad if you guys have all made a joint decision not to inform the fans of how bad the movie really is. Haha! I called it all along.
No; the tagline will actually be: "We Already Lost, Now They're Kicking Us When We're Down."
I couldn't help but wince at the tagline... I just hope that the worse thing about the movie. :-\
no its "We Already Lost, Now They're tee-baging Us When We're Down."
IRT Comment #20: This website wouldn't be here today, without you? :'( IRT Comment #22: Yeah, wish I hadn't have said anything. It's nothing superbad, but something I would rather have not known.
Please, Darkness, we're all desperate for news about this film. If you respected us you'd tell us. Good or bad, we must know so it'd soften the blow when we're in the theatres.
Yes, come on Darkness, you have to fess up. Were not going to stop pestering you.
Yes, Darkness, send the members all a PM, you don't have to give it away here...! Or does the 'tightlip' policy virus has gotten to you too, you on who everybody relies..? :'(
I woudn't cry :'( No matter how bad is it ;D
I think the case is that hes just got 'connections' Darkness.PLEASE.IM DYING OUT HERE.
Also, Darkness, you know by now that we all look up to you and if you say it is something bad, we believe you...! SO COUGH IT UP ALREADY...please...! ;D Don't make me pout...! :D
Even if you say it is something you would prefer not to have known, it means it is relevant... so PLEASE stop this torture! :'( Send us all a PM and let us be the judge of that and help you lighten the load...! :D ;)
Exactly. You're treating us like a bunch of children who are too young to know the harsh nature of reality. Stop squeezing our balls and reveal the infomation! We all know AvP2 will suck anyway so just tell us what we're in for.
Ermac, dude, I was trying to convince him the soft way and you just blew it...! ;D He will reveal it when he sees fit...he revealed the tagline, which was a letdown, and he has given the latest info quickly and on top of every hour, so I think he is just teasing us and that either he is waiting for Fox or the other sites to advance it first and get him off the hook or we will be knowing about it from him shortly, so stay calm, especially you Ermac... He is human, he let it slip, I'm sure he will answer us very shortly and tell us what it is, and maybe it will not be a big thing! Though I know how serious he is and his concerns have always been valid ones so I am concerned too about his concerns...er... ;) So, whenever you're ready, Darkness... Just take your time... We'll wait... ;)
Alright then. I apologize for being impatient but you understand it's been nearly a whole year and we have very little infomation regarding the actual film itself. Whenever you're ready, Darkness. ;)
What?! They don't 'owe' us anything! They already said that they feel if they reveal what it was WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO PUT IT IN CONTEXT, it will contribute only bad publicity. Furthermore, the only people they owe are those involve din the actual production. Do you think they would be granted these sorts of interviews if they just let loose wiht every piece of information they have? Force the site owners to do any such thing (not that any of us can do that, even if wanting to) and you'll see any chance of them getting further access of the production reduced to absolutely zero. I would rather have them continue to be involved in that way by taking mature decisions than just spilling anything and everything there is. That said, I think it was a bit silly to just hint at knowing something terribly ominous. It was bound to lead to comments such as those. :)
hmmm I wonder what it could be? nothing superbad....maybe a new change to the alien lifecycle you dont agree with? the movies been cut? at least tell us something in vague terms.....
Perhaps it's the film's runtime; ie. 85 minutes.
he did mention once that he figured out the ending and didn’t want to spoil it, maybe its a crap ending, or another fact error that messed up another alien or predator movie like Alien 3's Bishop 2
yeah maybe the film ends with an alien getting away....
Ok ok ok! Everyone calm your nips. Xenomorphine, i see where your coming from and respect your opinion. I disagree with it tho. Listen everyone, Ive changed my mind about hearing whatever they're "hiding" only cause I don't want anything spoiled. If it has nothing to do with the plot or something extreme like that, i wanna hear it, but if it does interfere with my "movie going experience" and ruin any part of the film, i DON'T want to hear it.I think I speak for most of us with that. Anyone agree?
I could really care less about how the sets look like, Predator was made with a budget of 15 million and it still looked good, so i really don't care as long as it redeems what Anderson did.
I still wanna know... >:(
darkness, my god are you this much of a crybaby in real life? you cried and took down the site cause you didn't like the 1st movie and now you'll do anything to put a negative spin on this one... jesus it's just a friggin title, what if it WAS ''no peace on earth'' who gives a sh!t. you have all these fanboys kissing your ass for your opinion... heres a tip fellas, SEE THE DAMN MOVIE 1ST before you make judgements! i don't know why the directors even bother sharing information to a group of people waiting to pat themselves on the back if AVP2 fails... sad.
Darkness please! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
QuoteOk ok ok! Everyone calm your nips. Xenomorphine, i see where your coming from and respect your opinion. I disagree with it tho. Listen everyone, Ive changed my mind about hearing whatever they're "hiding" only cause I don't want anything spoiled. If it has nothing to do with the plot or something extreme like that, i wanna hear it, but if it does interfere with my "movie going experience" and ruin any part of the film, i DON'T want to hear it.I think I speak for most of us with that. Anyone agree?
Yes, I agree completley, about that.
I dont...I wanna hear it >:(
Look good folks lets not get excited here, personally the tag line s'ok but nowadays it really is hard to come up with really good, griping tag lines are reeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaally hard to come by, most good ones are already usedfor other movies. In the end, its all about the movie, lets all remember that.
I know, give em some slack, f*ck man.
Ditto
**(Pardon my last comment)**....I meant ditto referring to the comment made by MetroidMatt87 earlier, I agree with his comment. I'd like to hear things like the taglines, date release, movie title, etc., but things that have to do with the story and specifics I wouldn't want to spoil it for me or anyone else.
Maybe it's the 'new' name. I don't mind. I want to see this movie.
I like how you put " Jesus, just when you think things can't get any worse, they do.". How bad has it got?? I thought things was looking up.
I like that too. I think hes just trying to put us down, and tease us.... >:(
I don't really want ' AVP 2 ' because I would prefer THIS movie to stand up on its own merits as oppose to it being a sequel of sorts. the number 2 nowadays is becoming dated ;)
THIS MOVIE WILL BE EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE BEEN ALL DYING TO SEE ;D
Well, the only people I trust are Colin and Greg.
No tagline is better than something lame and cheesy!
its cool.
The more news i hear from avp2 the more im worried.Besides who would want to see an R rated scf-fi movie during the holidays?
I dunno guys,i have a really good feeling 'bout this one! I think Fox want heaps more mileage out of the franchise and will try hard to please this time 'round. I for one am looking forward to it!!!!!!! 8)
hum.... ok. what Dual blade comments... its actually true the "something 2" or 3 or 4 ir really out dated, for example we have "batman begins" - "the dark knight" of course it works very well with movie like "starwar episode 1 2 3 4 5 etc.... 10" but I think marketing people could actully think a little more to get so titles like: "warriors showdown" (yeah, I know totaly lame ) :P or maybe a title like ye'huta vs zenomorph (damn! i always forget there etnic names :S) YvsX (again, cant remmember initials jajaja) something that would need a "2" or a "returns" or an extra "s" of some sort.
No Yautja crap! Its predator or nothing.
'NO PEACE ON EARTH' could work for tag line if its done right, tho def not as a title. 'ALIENs(plural) vs PREDATOR' would work for me, like in the comics. Although the logo would have to be completely different from AVP:Alien vs Predator. Also i think the new alien life cycle is probably the ALIEN QUEEN facehugger/egg which has never really been seen before apart from Directors cut Alien3 ... heres hoping it is as the designs in alien 3 looked hot!
Well, regarding the tease from Darkness, if all the moderators are keeping alid on it, and we assume from Darkness words it is NOT GOOD, we have to fear the worse here, guys... For Darkness and co. to negate us info, it must be REALLY BAD... if it was only ARGUABLY bad, he would tell us; if it was MILDY bad, he would also...I am relatively new here, but how many times has Darkness negated info for so long (two days) and actually instituted a 'tightlip policy' involving his closest collaborators...? ???
>:( >:( >:( >:( some people here are beheaving like fox...
Meaning what exactly...? ???
I respect the moderators of thei site alot... that being said, I would like to know the bad news. I know that fans can get carried away, but some of us who are fans want to keep a solid reputation on these forums. I would like to know the bad news and have a responsible discussion about it. The bros. may be interested to hear what we have to say and it may influence somthing in the final product. Set up some ground rules and have some faith in us.
I wouldn't have said that better myself... ;)
Huuu?? What bad news, where did darkness say something about bad news? does he know something that we dont? (sry, its weird) ???
maybe is the reason why we don´t have no teaser, no trailer, no photos, no plot, no NOTHING
ok, i read the whole posts again and darkness has to know something... I wanna know that too :'( I have the feeling that hes doing some wanne be colin strause here. ;)
I mean we have enough mystery about the whole thing anyway, and its pretty unfair to mention something and then not give it away, that really sucks IMO >:(
Please, forget I said anything. I feel really bad about what I said in this article. I was just annoyed at things. At the secrecy that surrounds AvP2 and Fox\'s motives. It\'s pretty obvious that we know more about AvP2 than most people. We do the research. It wouldn\'t be respectful to the directors if I told you anything and everything I find out.
Alright lets just drop it. But Darkness, you have to promise youll tell us what it was AFTER the film is out ok??? Hehe...
Good answer! I don't quite know where I stand on That. I respect what you are doing, but you yourself are annoyed at the secrecy surrounding AVP2, so imagine how we feel, there are now 2 filters of info, what FOX releases and what you decide to tell us. The bottom line is that if the moderators of this site are withholding info out of repect for the filmmakers... then I support them on that.
IRT: #79It really isn\'t a big deal. Was just about my concerns over the budget and I don\'t think I\'ll get over that until the teaser comes out and we\'ll all see what it\'s like.
What about "Avp2: Interspecies". Dis might be da best!!!
Low budget? yea kinda sad, but i mean look, at least they r usin like earth enviorments, not lik u know space, which might cost alot! So i think its fine, da movie is guna be like 145 mins!
Spiderman 3 had a huge budget, all told about $500 million.... and it is crap. A small budget and good filmmakers are what great films are made of.
Darkness....tell us
Hey...it can't be any worse than The Punisher's budget of $12 million (that also includes marketing) :D
I'm not giving up. :-\
Darkness, I have read most of your posts and you don't misspeak...You just don't... Everytime you say something, it is wise, coherent and worthwhile... So most of us, including Pvt. Hicks, know you already... I am one of those people who comes here to have the latest news about the movie and it saddens me that you are filtering what we should or shouldn't know... Like I said, if you are taking these extreme measures (all collaborators in the know bound to secrecy), then it is not just small potatoes, is it...? I speak for myself when I say that it is not gonna be good for any of us if there is something bad about the movie and you are siding with the studio on it... I mean, if it is something you are SURE we won't like, we will know it sooner or later (my money on 'sooner') and in the worst case scenario, your secret will make people start to think twice before going to see it... This secrecy is not gonna help the movie at all, and your resilience in telling what you know actually is worrying many of us, probably for nothing...! We are big boys, Darkness, I'm sure we can all take it...! ;) ??? :-\
Couldnt say that better... Darkness, if its not that big of a deal then im sure we can all know, im writing this with a big PLEASE. :-[
Avp2: Interspecies, dis should be da title 4 avp2 :) its cool n it has da word species xD but u guys know dat aliens r guna win dis right?!
Myself, I don't much look into the tag line. The true fans of either series will only be looking forward to seeing an action packed, high volume of violence, bash your face in movie with Aliens and Predators. Everyone know the 1st AVP was lacking in many ways, but I still watch it to this day, just because I love them both. It was to long since we had last saw them on the big screen. It was nice to see them in action again. Though, there could have been much more action. I also dig for information like DARKNESS, though I am sure I don't have sources like he does. Think about it this way. With how bad everyone put down the first film, how can this one be worse? When your reach the bottom there is only one way to go.
From all the information I have found on this movie, I am pleased with the way the Brothers have went about informing everyone. No need to rush things. I like that they are going back to an orchestra for the score of the movie. I believe they are taking this movie in the right direction. You don't need a big budget to have a great movie. Even with special effects. Look at the first Matrix movie. 63,000,000 budget. Fox knows that this series could be great, but with their mistake of hiring Anderson to direct the first, they put one foot in the grave. The Brothers shouldn't have any problem with digging that foot out of the grave and running far away from it. The tombstone will read: Here lies Paul W. S. Anderson, the man who almost killed off Aliens AND Predators. Don't assume this move will be like this first. There is only 1 Paul W.S. Anderson and he has dug his grave : )
The new Tag line is a little cheezy, but it is Christmas. I don't think it is Badass enough for the movie. But it could work, let's just wait to see where it goes. This movie will be great, I have faith.
'Interspecies' makes it sound like a pornography film...
Oh AVP, Oh AVP.... No Peace On Earth For You Or Me ( to the tune of o' christmas tree). yeah, that's about all I have to say about that. :o
It'll hopefully be a good movie
I wrote a script for AvP2 (before and proboly while this movie was being made) and am learning to become a director as of now..possibly in the future I can make a AvP film. The movie, well my script and work. Deals with the movie with no dialogue, some people think this is horrible. But AvP is ALIEN VERSUS PREDATOR, this by all means does not need to include human beings (though it always has through not only these movies but other sci-fi/horror movies). It takes place before humans, back in the Mesozioc Era when dinosaurs were still around. There are some pretty epic battles in it. Anyway to see some of my script just comment back.
must be dialogue. i stopped reading after that post. you need dialogue, humands to relate to
LIKE THEY SAY WHOEVER WINS WE LOOSE.THAT DOESEN`T MEAN I WANT THE ALIENS TO LOOSE. >:(
I DONT THINK SO PVT.HICKS
2 months until the avp2 trailer comes,I can`t wait! :o
I THINK IVE FIGURED IT OUT! I know what Darkness was keeping hush hush about! I think he found out thattt.... AvP 2's budget is LOWER then 35 million! >:( :'(