And I don't mean something snarky like "I liked when it was over".
AVPR - Aliens vs Predator: Requiem gets bashed a lot around here, but for many, there is still plenty of enjoyment to be had while watching this film.
So dust off that Unrated Version blu-ray, turn up the brightness on your television, give it another watch and tell us something you liked about it!
I'll start!
I really like how they portrayed the Predator Homeworld, everything from Wolf's throne room to the two sun landscape. It was a real nice balance between ancient yet technologically advanced, with jungle foilage about.
I really appreciated director Colin Strause indicating the interior of the Predator ship seen in "Predator 2" was an important reference to him when designing the world's look, including the color palette. (I still haven't forgiven Paul Anderson for ignoring that P2 design for a more human cold steel technological ship design in the first AVP)
Nicely done!
I liked Wolf showing sadness over the death of one of the predators from the crashed ship. Implying they were friends, old hunt buddies or family. Yeah I know, it humanises him a little, but for me it was a nice touch.
I liked that the aliens were significantly harder to kill with contemporary weapons than the pulse rifles of the marines.
Hmmm that's all i can recall ATM :P
edit: Wolf had normal sized wristblades.
Quote from: TheKurgan on Dec 09, 2018, 06:01:47 PM
I liked Wolf showing sadness over the death of one of the predators from the crashed ship. Implying they were friends, old hunt buddies or family. Yeah I know, it humanises him a little, but for me it was a nice touch.
I did too. I'm fine with a Yautja taking a moment to mourn, like a Spartan, but not becoming overcome with grief.
I also very much prefer the original unrated cut, where Wolf uses the helmet to investigate what happen. I can only assume it was originally cut because how poorly the face of ADI's Wolf with robotic eyes appeared in that scene. Incredibly low lit, yet still so fake looking imo. Oh Stan, how I miss you!
QuoteI liked that the aliens were significantly harder to kill with contemporary weapons than the pulse rifles of the marines.
100 times YES!!
QuoteWolf had normal sized wristblades.
Anderson....
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The very end where they tie Weylund and Yutani into things in the final scene.
One of the few things I liked? when the shuriken pins that girl to the wall. The effect was great and it made me a fan of the weapon itself.
I liked the entire movie.
No seriously; other than the modern world setting AVP-R has a lot going for it, especially for a 90 minute movie.
If only they transferred it to the future it would be a 4/5 movie for me.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Dec 09, 2018, 07:07:41 PM
One of the few things I liked? when the shuriken pins that girl to the wall. The effect was great and it made me a fan of the weapon itself.
Yes, it looks super powerful when it is just picking her up like she weights nothing.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 09, 2018, 07:02:50 PM
Quote from: TheKurgan on Dec 09, 2018, 06:01:47 PM
I liked Wolf showing sadness over the death of one of the predators from the crashed ship. Implying they were friends, old hunt buddies or family. Yeah I know, it humanises him a little, but for me it was a nice touch.
I did too. I'm fine with a Yautja taking a moment to mourn, like a Spartan, but not becoming overcome with grief.
I also very much prefer the original unrated cut, where Wolf uses the helmet to investigate what happen. I can only assume it was originally cut because how poorly the face of ADI's Wolf with robotic eyes appeared in that scene. Incredibly low lit, yet still so fake looking imo. Oh Stan, how I miss you!
QuoteI liked that the aliens were significantly harder to kill with contemporary weapons than the pulse rifles of the marines.
100 times YES!!
QuoteWolf had normal sized wristblades.
Anderson....
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Yeah, it was just a quick moment of showing grief and than he was ready for action again. Like a seasoned warrior would do it.
What was Anderson thinking ? How would you even fight with two of this oversized things on your wrists? Glad we never really saw them in action. Would look pretty akward i think.
Quote from: TheKurgan on Dec 09, 2018, 07:20:14 PM
What was Anderson thinking ? How would you even fight with two of this oversized things on your wrists? Glad we never really saw them in action. Would look pretty akward i think.
It's certainly would be counterproductive when fighting close combat. Since Aliens have acid for blood, maybe it's meant to fight at a distance, at medium range? But they already have weapons like the combistick for that.
To be honest, I wouldn't be shocked if Anderson simply thought bigger was cooler, without ever considering the practicality of it (much like the humongous horns on the hell-hounds in "Predators".)
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Quote from: TheKurgan on Dec 09, 2018, 07:20:14 PM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Dec 09, 2018, 07:07:41 PM
One of the few things I liked? when the shuriken pins that girl to the wall. The effect was great and it made me a fan of the weapon itself.
Yes, it looks super powerful when it is just picking her up like she weights nothing.
Yep, it made me a fan of it too. The way it scooped her up... Pretty gruesome!
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 09, 2018, 07:51:07 PM
Quote from: TheKurgan on Dec 09, 2018, 07:20:14 PM
What was Anderson thinking ? How would you even fight with two of this oversized things on your wrists? Glad we never really saw them in action. Would look pretty akward i think.
It's certainly would be counterproductive when fighting close combat. Since Aliens have acid for blood, maybe it's meant to fight at a distance, at medium range? But they already have weapons like the combistick for that.
To be honest, I wouldn't be shocked if Anderson simply thought bigger was cooler, without ever considering the practicality of it (much like the humongous horns on the hell-hounds in "Predators".)
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Quote from: TheKurgan on Dec 09, 2018, 07:20:14 PM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Dec 09, 2018, 07:07:41 PM
One of the few things I liked? when the shuriken pins that girl to the wall. The effect was great and it made me a fan of the weapon itself.
Yes, it looks super powerful when it is just picking her up like she weights nothing.
Yep, it made me a fan of it too. The way it scooped her up... Pretty gruesome!
I think Anderson propably thought bigger means cooler. Judging from his other movies ;D
The wristblades should just be a side arm or last resort kinda weapon. Combisticks and especially the naginata from the comics are much better weapons to engage xenomorphs in close combat.
Found two other things i liked, wolf had way less armor than scar and his crew. The armor makes sense when fighting something up close with acid blood and it propably kept Celtic alive a little longer, but it just does not look the part. The asymetrical armor on just one side of the body and less armored shoulders and legs looks much better to me. And Wolf did not look like his main dish are whey shakes :P
Now that I own the unrated cut on bluray and can actually see things other than darkness, there are several things I like.
I like the opening onboard the ship. I like the predalien, the fight through the hospital, and the fight at the power plant. I especially enjoyed the moment where the deputy saw and ran from wolf in the woods. It felt like the truest Predator scene since P2. I like most of it really. If you take it one scene at a time, there was really a lot more to see and experience than people think. The cast wasn't very good, and the human elements weren't grand, but it felt far more mature and scary than AVP1.
Even though the characters were so poorly written, I sometimes wonder if AVPR would've been better received had it taken place in a more interesting location like AVP1?
I still want to see AVP3. Hell, I want to see alot of AVP movies. I'd love to see the company venture deep to the bottom and see the queens corpse, like the fallen kingdom opening, or see a film set on a cruiser or a distant colony. There is a lot of things to build upon with AVP, but I worry that Shane and his antics might've cost us that chance.
There's 2 things about this movie that I really like.
The first movie was goofy fun so taking those cues and following up the story on Earth worked for me. Crashing the ship in the forest and letting loose a bunch of facehuggers near a population center has great appeal. The general story works as far as I am concerned and if this had been a novel, I would have enjoyed it a lot. It's unfortunate that the movie is sooo dark and a wasted opportunity to bring Aliens back to Earth.
The other thing I liked a lot about the movie was the Predalien. It was an enormous hulking brute and the narrative was always heading towards the Big Showdown between it and Wolf. This was a central goal leading up to the end of the movie. I really wanted to see a victor emerge from that fight... Welp.
I don't mind a lot of the other issues present in the movie that some people have problems with. Kids getting facehugged and the pregnant woman scene were pretty essential considering the locale. Any 'ALIEN' movie needs to live up the the name - it has to be confronting on some level in order to give the word 'alien' that much needed adjective meaning. It should be confronting, hostile and outside conventional experience and these scenes definitely checked those boxes. 'ALIEN' movie content is always intended to convey a sense of personal loss and body horror. How much more confronting can it be to assault children and mothers to be - the most vulnerable among any community? Yeah. That's gonna hurt; and it should!
Otherwise what's the point of calling it 'ALIEN'?
'AvP-R' much like ALIEN Resurrection as far as I am concerned. There's a worthwhile story tucked away in there - but the direction of it suffered from considerable mishandling, taking it down the wrong path stylistically and in many other ways. This could have been a great movie. It's 'meh' at best.
-Windebieste.
Honestly, liked a lot of things. This just wasn't the AVP movie I wanted on screen.
Quote from: DerelictShip on Dec 09, 2018, 09:57:10 PM
Honestly, liked a lot of things. This just wasn't the AVP movie I wanted on screen.
Same. I liked the setting of the first but hated the toned down feel. Loved the gruesomeness of AVPR but it still felt lacking. Then I read the novel AVP: Prey and realized what was missing.
Yes, gruesomeness I felt was much better. Personally, I would have made it more gruesome, hold nothing back. I just really want to see an AVP movie in the future featuring all the highlights of the franchise's....colonial marines, xenomorphs, Yautja, futuristic setting.
Quote from: Huggs on Dec 09, 2018, 08:06:23 PM
Now that I own the unrated cut on bluray and can actually see things other than darkness, there are several things I like.
Is it better? I just assumed it was the same shit as the dvd and never bothered with it.
I like the movie... ironically didn't much care for the parts in the daylight which were visible though. :P
I liked how the aliens cleared the town over night and slaughter the national guard. All those empty and bloodless cars on the roadway was a neat scene. Wolf punching that one xeno was fantastic. The dumb redneck town folks were accurate to a fault. The final bombing run/fight was better than most can accept. I liked that they had the balls to kill fetuses. They shouldn't huv dun it but these things are supposed to be nightmare fuel.
Also no one actually stabbed the other in the back? People seemed to be working together and talking it out and not in the boring AVP 1 way.
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 09, 2018, 11:20:58 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Dec 09, 2018, 08:06:23 PM
Now that I own the unrated cut on bluray and can actually see things other than darkness, there are several things I like.
Is it better? I just assumed it was the same shit as the dvd and never bothered with it.
I like the movie... ironically didn't much care for the parts in the daylight which were visible though. :P
The Unrated Cut on Bluray is a big step up. There's a decent amount of extra footage and some of it's pretty gruesome. Some of it's pretty nice though, like some extra shots for wolf inside the crashed ship. A few shots across the film were tweaked, much to the better, I'd say. I'm watching it in the dark right now with my tv on energy saver mode, and I can see the predalien molting at the beginning and I can see wolf's walk through the woods and his investigation of the ship quite clearly.
The picture quality of this bluray is outstanding. Detail is beyond superb. I found the The Unrated Cut of AVP on Bluray to also be superior to the Theatrical Cut on DVD.
The edition I purchased is the standard one on sale in the U.S. It's the AVP Double Feature. Should run about $9-$10 brand new from Amazon or any major retailer. I've seen it in Walmart stores for the same price. The much improved picture and the extra footage really helped salvage both of these movies for me.
Quote from: TheKurgan on Dec 09, 2018, 07:59:53 PMAnd Wolf did not look like his main dish are whey shakes :P
Haha. Indeed! :laugh:
Quote from: Huggs on Dec 09, 2018, 08:06:23 PM
Now that I own the unrated cut on bluray and can actually see things other than darkness, there are several things I like.
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 09, 2018, 11:20:58 PM
Is it better? I just assumed it was the same shit as the dvd and never bothered with it.
It is! Once I purchased it on blu-ray and played it on an HD television, I, like Huggs, could immediately see so much more. To me, the difference was night and day. I could actually see things!
The
blu-ray as well as the
unrated version are such difference makers. The unrated version not only adds scenes, but
substitutes scenes, and also
rearranges existing scenes, which all really makes this movie much more enjoyable in my eyes.
Have yet to see that, what added scenes are there?
https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=996488 (https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=996488)
It's a pretty minor improvement in my opinion. There's some added stuff that makes the opening make more sense. (Just a smaller ship leaving the bigger predator ship.) There''s also an added scene in a cemetery where a dude gets his head blown off. Honestly, everything else is minor enough that I didn't personally notice.
https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=285280 (https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=285280)
Also, when the blonde chick gets pinned to the wall, her body falls in half in the unrated DVD... but not on the unrated blu-ray. I assume this was a mistake.
As for what I like about the movie:
Wolf and his gadgets are cool. I love his scarred face and the whip.
I also love the gore, especially the most gruesome acid kill we've ever gotten in an Alien flick.
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The biggest plus is the immensely improved picture and high level of visual detail. The tweaks to some scenes were definitely worth it though. If you're familiar with the theatrical cut, you'll feel the difference when you watch the unrated version.
That's interesting. The opening scene has always bothered me but now I can make the excuse that there was a second ship that was headed back to earth for maybe another hunt.
Take the inserted cemetery scene for instance. To me it's much, much more than someone getting their head blown off. It's a much needed breather within the films pace, and as they hide in the graveyard and share "did you see one?", you can hear in the background, the mayhem and madness going on in the surrounding town. Sirens. Gun shots. Screams. The scene makes the alien infestation feel larger, scarier and more inescapable from the hell that is going on all around them. I immediately noticed this scene effectively amped up the dread and the regular cut is certainly weaker without it.
Quote from: Huggs on Dec 10, 2018, 03:27:33 AM
If you're familiar with the theatrical cut, you'll feel the difference when you watch the unrated version.
Definitely, and for the better.
Well shit guys, I'm heading to the store now. I honestly didn't even know that the thing existed.
The atmosphere can get really spooky in this movie, like in the nighttime first scenes.
Love me some rain as well.
Wolf looks good with his mask on.
I just learned that the Jesse scene discrepancy was a branching error with earlier blu-ray discs. The disc would accidentally play the R-rated version of that scene.
On newer discs, it's been fixed, so there should be no difference between the unrated cut on DVD and blu-ray. I just ordered a replacement. Gotta have every bit of gore in 1080p!
Quote from: TheKurgan on Dec 09, 2018, 06:01:47 PM
I liked Wolf showing sadness over the death of one of the predators from the crashed ship. Implying they were friends, old hunt buddies or family. Yeah I know, it humanises him a little, but for me it was a nice touch.
I really enjoyed that moment too. I like it when Predator's take that moment - like in Hunters.
The end credits, best part of the movie, problem is that it doesn't come soon enough.
Wolf's design is good, though his behavior is stupid.
Quote from: David's Creation on Dec 10, 2018, 07:26:27 AM
I just learned that the Jesse scene discrepancy was a branching error with earlier blu-ray discs. The disc would accidentally play the R-rated version of that scene.
On newer discs, it's been fixed, so there should be no difference between the unrated cut on DVD and blu-ray. I just ordered a replacement. Gotta have every bit of gore in 1080p!
I believe you will be fine if you order the double feature Huggs recommend. The individual AVPR blu/dvd release had the issue you described (I own one with that glitch myself).
Quote from: SiL on Dec 10, 2018, 07:02:59 AM
Wolf looks good with his mask on.
Agreed. Very much so! With his mask off on the otherhand... I love Wolf's look conceptually.... the construction / execution of Wolf's head in the film underlines my frustration with ADI's Predator work. Fortunately though,, that helmet doesn't stay off for very long! And then he looks terrific!
I can't find the cemetery scene anywhere? Could someone point me in the right direction or explain more.
Quote from: DerelictShip on Dec 10, 2018, 02:05:40 PM
I can't find the cemetery scene anywhere? Could someone point me in the right direction or explain more.
A fairly long new scene is intercut with Wolf healing his wounds in the tree. First, we see Kelly and Molly running across a field and into a graveyard. The film then cuts to the panning shot following Wolf's flouresant blood trail up the tree to the branch on which he is perched; while this footage is the same as in the theatrical cut, in the Unrated Edition an air raid siren (signalling the evacuation Morales has ordered) can be heard in the background. After Wolf opens his Medicomp, we cut back to the graveyard, where Kelly and Molly run into Karl from the earlier power plant scene, who is hiding among the gravestones and is now armed with a revolver. He calls them over and nervously asks if they have seen the creatures that are stalking the town. After cutting to Wolf stapling his wound closed, the sequence returns to the graveyard, where Karl, Kelly and Molly react to Wolf's roar of pain. Molly keeps tearfully asking her mother why she left her father at the house, and Karl becomes increasingly angry that the young girl's wimpering will give away their position. Kelly tries to calm him down but he begins to threaten them; Wolf overhears and, seeing that Karl is armed, takes aim and blows his head off with his Plasmacasters. Kelly moves to pick up the dead man's revolver, but when she sees Wolf's laser pointer hovering over the gun she leaves it and flees with Molly. There is then a shot of Wolf's thermal vision as he watches them go (replacing the thermal shot of a line of traffic that is seen in the theatrical release), after which Wolf stands up as in the original cut. During this added sequence, a gravestone marked "Hawkins" is seen, an homage to Rick Hawkins from Predator.You can read more here: http://avp.wikia.com/wiki/Aliens_vs._Predator:_Requiem_Unrated_Edition
I did enjoy that scene of Wolf patching himself up in the tree. I always liked the scenes of the preds in P1 and P2 doing that. I also agree with those who have already mentioned the scene of him briefly mourning the fallen pred on the ship, it's interesting but subtle and just right. The whole part with him on the ship I liked, at least the extended version.
The shots of the predator blood running down the mask like tears hit me right in the feels. You could sense the anger and sorrow Wolf was feeling.
I have not seen this unrated Blu-ray version. I shall tonight!
Please let us know how it is!
I have it... Its still absurdly dark and it remains a terrible film.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Dec 12, 2018, 04:20:41 AM
I have it... Its still absurdly dark and it remains a terrible film.
The movie still sucks in many ways, but it's definitely not "absurdly dark" on the bluray I own. My tv is even on energy saver and I already had the brightness down as well.
With this movie, it can be frustratingly difficult to separate people who saw problematic screenings or own problematic DVD's/blu-rays from people who are just being dramatic about a movie that takes place mostly at night and used a lot of shadows...
Quote from: David's Creation on Dec 12, 2018, 06:37:07 AM
With this movie, it can be frustratingly difficult to separate people who saw problematic screenings or own problematic DVD's/blu-rays from people who are just being dramatic about a movie that takes place mostly at night and used a lot of shadows...
I own AVPR Unrated digitally, and when I watch it on my phone, with the brightness all the way up, I still struggle to see anything. Sometimes my screen is completely black, as in the phone appears off, and the sound of the movie is my only indicator that the movie is still playing, and that is extremely frustrating.
But the frustration is not soley with the brightness, but the fact how it effects people's enjoyment of the movie. When your viewing is "absurdly dark", how can it not be "terrible film" and a horrible viewing experience? It wasn't until I purchased a 4K television, put the blu-ray in, and turned off most of the lights was when I stopped squinting trying to figure out what I was looking at and could actually just sit back and get immersed in the film.
My only hope is one day, maybe with a new AVP film, they remaster this film for a 4k release, but release the remaster on all formats, and the darkness problem will be resolved once and for all.
Being dramatic about the darkness? Lol thats funny.
Ive seen it in theater, on dvd, and on bluray, uncut and original, Hd tv and 4K tv. None of these versions or variations looked any better than the other in terms of being able to see whats going on.
Now it may not be too dark for a few (huggs) but dont tell me this film isnt absurdly dark compared to any other hollywood film ever.
It dreads me to say anything positive about the aliens, but I kinda liked the ridged top of their heads. Makes them look aggressive somehow.
I thought it looked completely fine in the theater, but the whole internet complained that it was too dark. Supposedly good prints were sent to the west half of America and erroneously darkened prints were sent to the east. This makes sense to me, because I saw it in Montana. But then I saw the DVD and couldn't see a damn thing, so I finally understood what people were talking about.
But I still wonder why nobody from the west side of America seems to share my experience. This makes me think some people were just being dramatic. I feel like a lot of people who saw the correct version jumped on the bandwagon and agreed that the movie was too dark just based on shots that were supposed to be dark. There are lots of shadows and moments where subjects are filmed in silhouette. A lot of people will see shots like that and complain that they can't see every detail.
The only time the movie "looked" good was on the trailers, for the theater it was very dark.
I liked the music. It was not very good and a lot of it was recycled, but when i first listened to it without having seen the movie first i imagined a better movie in my mind, that was cool.
I do remember hearing something at the time about how some DVD versions were darker than others. I always thought it was dark but I never thought it was unwatchable from a visual perspective.
As far as something I like: I like the Aliens battle with the Marine Guard scene.
It was a missed opportunity.
One positive thing is that it had opportunities.
It just failed to capitalise on any of them.
@ David's Creation
Thats funny because ive always felt they were probably all the same super dark print, just that it doesnt bother some people. Never put much stock in the theory that some were good and some were bad.
The trailers were fine, things look properly lit.
Quote from: Vermillion on Dec 12, 2018, 12:33:22 AM
I have not seen this unrated Blu-ray version. I shall tonight!
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I just got my replacement set. I compared the old and new discs. There is absolutely no difference in the brightness level.
(But Jesse does fall in half like she's supposed to, so money well spent in my bloodthirsty opinion.)
Quote from: David's Creation on Dec 13, 2018, 02:05:13 AM
I just got my replacement set. I compared the old and new discs. There is absolutely no difference in the brightness level.
(But Jesse does fall in half like she's supposed to, so money well spent in my bloodthirsty opinion.)
I don't think there was any difference suggested between blu and blu in regards to brightness (just a difference between dvd to blu), but I agree it's nice to have the 2 dropped scenes restored in the unrated seamless branching. :)
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Quote from: Vermillion on Dec 12, 2018, 12:33:22 AM
I have not seen this unrated Blu-ray version. I shall tonight!
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Much better. But still has its head shaking moments.
Btw it was clear for me to see that The shuriken was spinning the wrong way for it to lift the blonde chick off the ground when it hit her. Lol
The part that still gets me to this day is the Alien in the Backyard. And then in the window. Still scary for me.
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Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 13, 2018, 01:52:11 AM
Quote from: Vermillion on Dec 12, 2018, 12:33:22 AM
I have not seen this unrated Blu-ray version. I shall tonight!
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Much better. But still has its head shaking moments.
Yes, agreed! Still, it's amazing to me how much the combination of the bluray and the the unrated cut improved this movie!
QuoteBtw it was clear for me to see that The shuriken was spinning the wrong way for it to lift the blonde chick off the ground when it hit her. Lol
I disagree! Actually I pulled out my forensics hat, watched it again frame by frame, and concluded it was indeed spinning the correct way my friend.
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Wolf pulled out two Shurikens, one in each hand. The way he threw the Shuriken in his
left hand, it would not scoop up a victim.
However, the Shuriken Wolf threw in his
right hand was an underhand throw, spun in the correct scooping direction through the Alien, and finished in the correct spin scooping up Jesse against the wall.
QuoteThe part that still gets me to this day is the Alien in the Backyard. And then in the window. Still scary for me.
Indeed! You knew it was coming but still scary regardless! :o
The shuriken goes up then down and up again.
Confirmed Predator on the grassy knoll in Dealey Plaza.
Quote from: SM on Dec 13, 2018, 06:24:43 PM
The shuriken goes up then down and up again.
Confirmed Predator on the grassy knoll in Dealey Plaza.
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The hive's construction is excellent.
The laser mines, two plasma casters, the whip.
Wolf's design.
Everything else is pretty much retched.
Quote from: SM on Dec 13, 2018, 06:24:43 PM
The shuriken goes up then down and up again.
Confirmed Predator on the grassy knoll in Dealey Plaza.
Must have been my old beer googles at work again.
The plasma pistol wasn't too bad though how the hell it is powered is the question.
I don't think it'd be too outlandish for the casters to have some sort of energy reservoir.
It did have to charge up at least, which it doesn't when it's mounted.
Yeah, I was fine with it personally.
Honestly, I like the idea of the Predator's having hand-held energy weapons anyway. I always liked the Plasma Pistols in the AvP games and I do dig the design of Requiem's too.
Strangely the plasma pistols in the games were more like grenade launchers than pistols if I remember correctly, as the plasma shot fires in an arc, though it might have been in only one of the games.
Yeah, that's right. And they had more of an aoe effect.
I love AVPR. I recognize it's terrible but I also think it's just so darn entertaining.
- The sheer violence happening to a whole bunch of random characters that nobody cares about. Seriously the movie goes out of its way to have characters whose sole purpose on-screen is to get themselves brutally killed. Some random dude at the plant gets headbitten, one of the bullies cops it through the eye, two stoners get their heads blown off, some nurse gets her neck snapped and an eye on top of that.
I mean who are these people? Just a waste of money on effects and paying cast members lol but hey that's what makes it funny.
- Wolf. Yes anything he succeeds at in this movie is mostly down to how utterly stupid the Xenos in this movie are portrayed to be. However the concept of a badass lone Predator appeals to me and no movie delivers on that quite like this one e.g stabbing a Xeno and then whipping out his Plasma pistol like a gunslinger to get another.
- Sewer scene. Adding to the point above really, this Predator has the guts to head into their lair and make his presence known.
- The film's attempts to try and make us care about the main characters. I never rewatch anything involving humans in this film but do I still laugh at what they put on screen. The story and acting is below soap opera level. Any scenes focusing on them is pretty much 'We need to fill a runtime and those Xeno/Pred effects cost money dammit!'
Pretty much Wolf's design/weapons/tech/movements and the action/gore. I remember going crazy when I saw Wolf and his 2 plasma cannon killing on the R-rated trailer. Naive 12 year old I was.
When something isn't dying or Wolf isn't on the screen its really bad.
In regards to Wolf, while I love my bass fisherman type Predators, I really liked having a Yautja here on Earth for some other reason than "the hunt". It was a nice added layer to the mythos.
Especially when he took time out to hunt.
You mean when he strung up that cop? Yeah, that didn't make any sense...
Fun fact: In the script, he just killed the cop. It was the PredAlien who skinned him and hung him up.
Also a fun fact: I'm not joking.
Fun fact: The PredAlien strung up dead Predators too.
What's more fun is that actually made it into the film, technically, in the background.
Those were fox's decisions right? If so, they really shoudn't be allowed to meddle with the alien franchise
Quote from: The Cruentus on Dec 23, 2018, 11:20:19 AM
Those were fox's decisions right? If so, they really shoudn't be allowed to meddle with the alien franchise
Just the Alien franchise? ;)
If it makes you feel any better, soon it will be Disney meddling with the Alien franchise.
Rather disney than fox, their ideas for the franchise suck and lets not forget the Alien 3 production issues. Even the novels get "suggestions" from fox.
Quote from: The Cruentus on Dec 23, 2018, 11:20:19 AM
Those were fox's decisions right? If so, they really shoudn't be allowed to meddle with the alien franchise
They're paying for it.
They are a studio, they are supposed to finance movies, but it shouldn't make them producer, editor and director. Which is what they try to be.
...they own the rights, they're literally the producers.
Key word. Shouldn't.
I don't know what is going to happen when disney gets control but as long as they don't act like Fox, then its a non issue for me.
It's their money - they get a say.
To suggest they shouldn't is ridiculous.
No its not. If that is the case, it is ridiculous that they bother to hire producers, directors and editors if they just going to do it themselves.
Just because someone or something has power doesn't mean it is always right to use it.
Also "getting a say" is one thing but it is not the same as imposing their ideas on someone, which is what they do.
Once again - it's their money. Especially when it comes to franchises.
They always get a say, and if the director doesn't have final cut, the studio generally has THE say.
It's silly to say 'why hire directors etc.' They hire them because a studio exec doesn't have the necessary skills to make the film. Their job is protect an investment.
Which they have tons of, so I don't see why they should interfere. Investments are risks, that is the name of the game but not everyone doing so micromanages everything all the time.
Indeed, but sometimes they do and sometimes it's necessary.
Bad investments can sink studios.
Not saying that producers and studios can't meddle in, because well, they can and they do.
But they should trust the people they hired. I think you can count the cases for meddeling that lead to a better movie on one hand. So even from an investment point, it would make sense just to hire people you trust and are proven by past successes and let them make their thing.
And sometimes the people you hire aren't as good as you thought they were.
It's a bit lazy to pin everything on the studio as so often happens.
Alien 3 ended up being a much tighter piece thanks to studio meddling - though it ultimately doomed from the start.
An unchecked director can make bad decisions but that it why it is a gamble.
And Fox does need to think a bit more about their "ideas" before imposing them on a film. Neither is really a good path, either you got a unchecked director that doesn't care about continuity and lore or you got some studio suit putting insane ideas that mess with contiuity and lore.
I understanding making movies is far from simple, but there needs to be respect for the franchise, for the what the films are about.
Back in the 70s - 80s, it was all about the director's vision, a time where the director can fight a studio and win! And considering what resulted from those decades, albiet there were plenty of stinkers, and some smaller studios had to close their doors as a result, I suspect overall this was the better method.
There's only ever been a small handful of people where it was "all about the director's vision". Everyone else has to compromise with the studio - or simply do what their told.
Fighters like Francis Ford Coppola, Oliver Stone, George Lucas, Ridley Scott, Stephen Spielberg, John Carpenter, James Cameron, John Milius, Paul Verhoeven, off the top of my head.
I don't recall Lucas fighting with studios. And the most publicised fight Ridley had - he lost.
Quote from: SM on Dec 23, 2018, 08:04:15 PM
I don't recall Lucas fighting with studios. And the most publicised fight Ridley had - he lost.
Lucas fought the Fox board room heavily with Star Wars. And you're right, Ridley lost more battles than he won, but if you're still winning some, battling still provides a net-gain.
What was Lucas fighting Fox about? Money perhaps, but it certainly wasn't content. He didn't put scenes back into the Special Edition because of studio mandated edits, which is the context here.
It's a much better movie than The Predator. Although that isn't saying much. AVPR is not the worst of the films, not anymore.
I would argue its still the worst, you can at least see things in the predator. :laugh:
Quote from: The Cruentus on Dec 24, 2018, 12:21:56 AM
I would argue its still the worst, you can at least see things in the predator. :laugh:
Get a recently manufactured bluray. As for seeing things in The Predator, I don't think that's a plus. ;D
That CGI...dear God.
Quote from: SM on Dec 23, 2018, 09:11:02 PM
What was Lucas fighting Fox about? Money perhaps, but it certainly wasn't content. He didn't put scenes back into the Special Edition because of studio mandated edits, which is the context here.
I've had a wee bit too much to drink so if I'm incoherent I apologize, but yes, money and the script. Lucas had battles with Fox executives over the complexity of the screenplay and the budget, which is probably related. Fox wanted a simpler script to shoot, so Lucas had to fight for more money for his vision. Fox tried to shut the picture down sooner than Lucas could finish it but Lucas convinced Fox to fork over cash for some extra production days. Those kind of issues/battles.
Quote from: Huggs on Dec 24, 2018, 12:04:08 AM
AVPR is not the worst of the films, not anymore.
Agreed.... I think..... I dunno. Man, this truely is a sign of the end times. :laugh:
Nah, I still think AvPR is the worst film in either series.
Alien
Aliens = Predator
Alien³
Predator 2
Alien Covenant
Alien Resurrection
Predators
AVP = Prometheus
The Predator
AVPR
Ever since I discovered the unrated cut on no-more-darkness-problems blu-ray, AVPR is no way on the bottom of the list for me. I'd put it over AVP, Alien Ressurection, and The Predator for sure. I have so much more fun with it.
Quote from: Huggs on Dec 24, 2018, 12:04:08 AM
It's a much better movie than The Predator. Although that isn't saying much. AVPR is not the worst of the films, not anymore.
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Man, this truely is a sign of the end times. :laugh:
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Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 24, 2018, 02:56:39 PM
Ever since I discovered the unrated cut on no-more-darkness-problems blu-ray, AVPR is no way on the bottom of the list for me. I'd put it over AVP, Alien Ressurection, and The Predator for sure. I have so much more fun with it.
I have it tied with AVP, but on the rest I'm with you.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Dec 24, 2018, 02:59:01 PM
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Hold my hand. We'll drive off the cliff together.
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Still the worst by far.
:laugh:
Quote from: 426Buddy on Dec 24, 2018, 03:13:29 PM
Still the worst by far.
:laugh:
No it's not.
So take that!(https://media1.giphy.com/media/XV74ZvGRXcZdS/giphy.gif?cid=19f5b51a5c20f810684957664967b126)
Still the worst.
Quote from: The Old One on Dec 24, 2018, 03:34:05 PM
Still the worst.
Not even close!
Take that!(https://media0.giphy.com/media/sEdmGhHkW9WRG/giphy.gif?cid=19f5b51a5c20f8175767796c73aa7914)
The only truly irredeemable film in either franchise.
Say something you LIKE about AVPR:
Uhhhh... it has Aliens?
That's it. If pizza boy died instead of hot blonde I would've added another point.
Not everyone can follow thread directions I guess.
Quote from: P-Rock on Feb 08, 2019, 12:00:09 AM
Say something you LIKE about AVPR:
Uhhhh... it has Aliens?
There ya go! ;D
Lets be honest, those were not Aliens. :laugh: They looked like them a little, but they were borderline defenceless weaklings that existed to get curbstomped by Wolf, who was also incompetent but only looks good because everything else is worse.
Quote from: The Cruentus on Feb 08, 2019, 11:01:38 AM
Lets be honest, those were not Aliens. :laugh: They looked like them a little, but they were borderline defenceless weaklings that existed to get curbstomped by Wolf, who was also incompetent but only looks good because everything else is worse.
Uh, oh. Time to hand the AVPR Xenopedia page to HuDaFuk! :P
Remember all, this thread is say something you LIKE.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 08, 2019, 11:27:07 AM
Uh, oh. Time to hand the AVPR Xenopedia page to HuDaFuk! :P
Remember all, this thread is say something you LIKE.
You should be the one to update the Fan reception section of that page. ;D
Quote from: Samhain13 on Feb 08, 2019, 11:33:50 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 08, 2019, 11:27:07 AM
Uh, oh. Time to hand the AVPR Xenopedia page to HuDaFuk! :P
Remember all, this thread is say something you LIKE.
You should be the one to update the Fan reception section of that page. ;D
:D
Nah, those two do an amazing job.
Researching the shitty sewer scene actually reminded me that I like the close-up shots of Chet's face from the front. The lips on it remind me of the original Alien and it makes a pretty neat image.
It also got the SKULL... even if its hard to see on the movie. We hadn't see that on a long time. Guess thats why I don't mind the face much, my complains are mainly related to the body.
You can see the eyeholes pretty clearly in the sewer when Chet smacks Wolf away from the Aliens. For the rest of the movie it's mercifully subtle.
Those bitch tits though ...
Predator pecks. The newborn was the one suffering from gyno. Would prefer the classic alien chest.
The original sculpt was lovely before they had to start adding flesh to it. I still like the arms and legs and stomach, actually. There's some nice biomech detailing in there. Just a shame you can't see it in the movie.
I like everything (almost) Predator and Alien related in this movie. I like Wolf and Predalien designs. And i find characters of Dallas (not that) and scheriff kinda interesting. Especially scheriff- he just normal man doing his job suddenly falling in this alien invasion and trying hard to do something, to bring everything back to normal. I like it.
The Predator Planet.
(https://www.avpcentral.com/images/alien-vs-predator-3/predator-prime.png)
I am not too fussed on the predator planet, too over the top really. Having lava that close to the buildings would seriously cause issues, to elaborate what I mean, lava is just so hot that you would be dead just by being meters near it.
Quote from: The Cruentus on Feb 10, 2019, 12:30:24 PM
I am not too fussed on the predator planet, too over the top really. Having lava that close to the buildings would seriously cause issues, to elaborate what I mean, lava is just so hot that you would be dead just by being meters near it.
You clearly didn't play enough with this little gem. ;)
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All seriously though, since their planet has such intense volcanic activity, I can see Yautja dig canals to control it, maybe even harness it in ways for a power source. Therefore I see those buildings more as controlling structures.
Plus apparently humans can stand 2 meters away from lava. So I can visualize Yautja standing 1.7 meters away and say "Ahhh, this is nice!" ;D
Ohhh boy! Thats the second predator toy I ever owned. I had a couple kenner aliens first though. That snow balled into a nice collection of kenner AvP toys. It was a great childhood I can tell you that much.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Feb 10, 2019, 09:00:53 PM
Ohhh boy! Thats the second predator toy I ever owned. I had a couple kenner aliens first though. That snow balled into a nice collection of kenner AvP toys. It was a great childhood I can tell you that much.
What was your first?
This bad boy lol
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51RBHDhrgBL.jpg)
Yes!! Scavage With Bola Blasting Action! Got to love all the accessories. Good memories! :laugh:
Heck yeah i had a whole desk full of kenners going to war on eachother :D
I liked when the credits started rolling.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 09, 2018, 05:55:36 PM
And I don't mean something snarky like "I liked when it was over".
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Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 09, 2018, 05:55:36 PM
And I don't mean something snarky like "I liked when it was over".
Ha, yeah. Some like to gloss right over that.
I get a kick out of the fact that it takes place in Gunnison as I've had many of camping and backpacking adventures there. And as Old One pointed out that short shot of the Predator world is pretty cool.
I like how you can match the aerial shots of 'Gunnison' up with Port Moody on Google Maps. ;D
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I wish I could be like that on those days when my floor spontaneously turns into lava and I have to walk on the furniture to get around.
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I wish I could be like that on those days when my floor spontaneously turns into lava and I have to walk on the furniture to get around.
Pierce Brosnan did it, and he wasn't even wearing plaid.
Sam Trammell was terrific in Requiem. Wish there was more of him.
Legit the only person I gave half a shit about in the movie.
Although I do remember my initial review saying I actually liked Ricky the Pizza Boy, despite expectations.
Quote from: Huggs on Feb 22, 2019, 11:19:04 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 22, 2019, 11:14:06 PM
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I wish I could be like that on those days when my floor spontaneously turns into lava and I have to walk on the furniture to get around.
Pierce Brosnan did it, and he wasn't even wearing plaid.
Plus Pierce learned that Grandmas make excellent replacement motor boat engines!
She was more of a mule than a motor.
And she had it coming, quite frankly.
Quote from: Huggs on Feb 23, 2019, 12:30:14 AM
She was more of a mule than a motor.
When I was gintastic, I clearly remember Grandma putting her lips in the water, blowing raspberries.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 23, 2019, 12:35:16 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Feb 23, 2019, 12:30:14 AM
She was more of a mule than a motor.
When I was gintastic, I clearly remember Grandma putting her lips in the water, blowing raspberries.
I still don't understand how fruit is going to save them? ;D
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Feb 22, 2019, 11:21:24 PM
Sam Trammell was terrific in Requiem. Wish there was more of him.
They could've had a plank play that part. I actually had to look up who Sam Trammell was and I only watched AvP:R the other day.
I wish they'd kept the idea from earlier drafts that he and Kelly were on the verge of divorce.
In the original draft he was actually a character and lived till the end.
Would've been nice to have him throughout. At least his death involved a good jump scare.
I like the stuff following Wolf around doing his thing. I like his design, although they ruin the reveal of his face at the end by, you know, showing it off a couple times beforehand - including the first time you see him!
John Ortiz does an admirable job with the material given - he's a solid character actor.
Brian Tyler's score deserved a bigger, better movie.
Quote from: Gilfryd on Feb 23, 2019, 08:37:30 PM
Brian Tyler's score deserved a bigger, better movie.
100%
Brian Tyler's score was from bigger and better movies.
Plagiarism?
Bit too strong a word considering he was making licensed product featuring Aliens and Predators. You would expect music similar to those films and it does sound like a greatest hits package. When Dallas shoots the Alien on the helipad for instance, the music sounds like it's lifted from Bishop's Countdown. Oddly enough the only existing music cue mentioned in the credits was from Predator.
Unlike Jed Kurzel's work on Covenant, which uses Goldsmith's work, other cues recall stuff from Alien 3 or Resurrection without sounding lifted.
Tyler's work suits the film, but like the rest of movie it's taking stuff from better films and slapping it together. The music is just a bit less superficial.
Quote from: SM on Feb 23, 2019, 09:44:00 PM
Brian Tyler's score was from bigger and better movies.
And James Cameron's aliens featured music from 2001.
As did Godzilla 2014.
But it all fit well.
I believe I said that.
Quote from: SM on Feb 24, 2019, 01:32:51 AM
I believe I said that.
It was so true that It was worth mentioning again.
Quote from: Huggs on Feb 24, 2019, 01:30:10 AM
Quote from: SM on Feb 23, 2019, 09:44:00 PM
Brian Tyler's score was from bigger and better movies.
And James Cameron's aliens featured music from 2001.
As did Godzilla 2014.
But it all fit well.
To be fair none of those
2001 pieces were written for
2001.
Quote from: SiL on Feb 24, 2019, 02:43:34 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Feb 24, 2019, 01:30:10 AM
Quote from: SM on Feb 23, 2019, 09:44:00 PM
Brian Tyler's score was from bigger and better movies.
And James Cameron's aliens featured music from 2001.
As did Godzilla 2014.
But it all fit well.
To be fair none of those 2001 pieces were written for 2001.
The plot thickens.
They were all existing pieces of classical music. The original soundtrack that was composed for the film went unused.
Aliens liberally reuses music from Wrath of Khan, as Horner had a very tight schedule to get it completed. He significantly improved some pieces to make them really come alive for Aliens.
Everything in Aliens can be traced back to Wrath of Khan or Search for Spock (and Krull and Battle Beyond The Stars before that). The Klingon theme in Search for Spock is used note for note in Futile Escape. Bishop's Countdown is an amped up version of Kirk's Explosive Reply from Wrath of Khan.
Horner repurposes himself a lot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfzqxCshIaY&t=0s&list=LLlYzqAm6IwgI3h5bvGVt2KA&index=49
We're talking about music.
Quote from: SM on Feb 24, 2019, 08:51:41 AM
We're talking about music.
SO? I mean, what's wrong if he re-uses music? His own music?
By the way i remember watching Avatar and thinking that some bit of music sounds familiar. I think when that big black dog-like creature grabs main character. music sound like one in Aliens.
Did I suggest there was something wrong?
Quote from: SM on Feb 24, 2019, 08:54:58 AM
Did I suggest there was something wrong?
OK. Maybe i need to read some more posts before.
But if you didn't suggest that it's wrong so why did you pay atention to this fact?
Someone said the score for AvPR deserved a bigger, better movie.
SM pointed out that the score lifted elements from bigger, better movies (that being the previous A/P movies).
SM, myself and others then pointed out that this wasn't strictly a bad thing as this is something most composers do, especially of their own work.
SM used Horner as a specific example as he's one of the most well-studied cases.
If you went back and read the whole thread from the last page, you'd see why it was mentioned and that there was no insult intended.
Quote from: SiL on Feb 24, 2019, 09:34:22 AM
Someone said the score for AvPR deserved a bigger, better movie.
SM pointed out that the score lifted elements from bigger, better movies (that being the previous A/P movies).
SM, myself and others then pointed out that this wasn't strictly a bad thing as this is something most composers do, especially of their own work.
SM used Horner as a specific example as he's one of the most well-studied cases.
If you went back and read the whole thread from the last page, you'd see why it was mentioned and that there was no insult intended.
Ok, ok. I need to read more posts before posting my "super-douper exclusive" opinion ;D.
Context is important ;D
Aliens works really well, but I don't think there's a truly unique cue on that soundtrack.
Here's a good review of it.
http://filmtracks.com/titles/aliens.html
Must check out Brainstorm now.
I find it interesting that we say composers are plagiarising themselves, while writers, directors and directors of photography who reuse almost identical elements to tell stories are given free pass.
Masked Wolf looks and moves superbly, especially in the EC crashed ship scene. Ian Whyte rocked the role. I've also warmed up to the face over the years a lil bit. While we're here, that entire scene was really enjoyable.
The Predalien isn't THAT bad a design, although they should've gone with the maquette version (https://monsterlegacy.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/avprpredalienmaquettesos.jpg) Steve Wang had sculpted, much better and more streamlined (no 'pectoral muscles' and the dreadlocks/mandibles flow much more nicely). In the film it looks great in certain shots. This of course keeping in mind that it's supposed to maintain aesthetic continuity with the 'stylized' AvP Alien designs.
Some of the 'big hits remix' score is real cool to listen to.
The power plant scene wasn't too bad.
The idea of the Predalien and the Predator dying locked in combat was pretty neat, like two deers or elephants (although the fight beforehand wasn't all that).
Quote from: SM on Feb 23, 2019, 09:56:06 PM
Bit too strong a word considering he was making licensed product featuring Aliens and Predators. You would expect music similar to those films and it does sound like a greatest hits package. When Dallas shoots the Alien on the helipad for instance, the music sounds like it's lifted from Bishop's Countdown. Oddly enough the only existing music cue mentioned in the credits was from Predator.
Unlike Jed Kurzel's work on Covenant, which uses Goldsmith's work, other cues recall stuff from Alien 3 or Resurrection without sounding lifted.
Tyler's work suits the film, but like the rest of movie it's taking stuff from better films and slapping it together. The music is just a bit less superficial.
Which part of the score recalled Resurrection? I know Alien 3 is during Crudup's chestburster scene.
It's got little teeny bits of Aliens but Alien and Alien³ all over. Never picked up on anything resembling John Frizzell's Resurrection music.
Quote from: Omegamorph on Feb 24, 2019, 11:27:44 AM
The Predalien isn't THAT bad a design.
Yes it is. :laugh: ;D
Agreed about Wolf's design and Ian Whyte's performance though.
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Feb 24, 2019, 03:54:29 PM
Quote from: SM on Feb 23, 2019, 09:56:06 PM
Bit too strong a word considering he was making licensed product featuring Aliens and Predators. You would expect music similar to those films and it does sound like a greatest hits package. When Dallas shoots the Alien on the helipad for instance, the music sounds like it's lifted from Bishop's Countdown. Oddly enough the only existing music cue mentioned in the credits was from Predator.
Unlike Jed Kurzel's work on Covenant, which uses Goldsmith's work, other cues recall stuff from Alien 3 or Resurrection without sounding lifted.
Tyler's work suits the film, but like the rest of movie it's taking stuff from better films and slapping it together. The music is just a bit less superficial.
Which part of the score recalled Resurrection? I know Alien 3 is during Crudup's chestburster scene.
Cargo Lift.
About 2:18 onwards there's a four note motif repeated.
It's similar to the start of Ripley's Theme. Cargo Lift has an extra note and a faster tempo.
Oh yes, I can definitely see the comparison now.
Funny, the erratic nature of that motif actually reminded me more of Aliens.
Quote from: SM on Feb 24, 2019, 08:01:03 PM
About 2:18 onwards there's a four note motif repeated.
It's similar to the start of Ripley's Theme. Cargo Lift has an extra note and a faster tempo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_o0nArWoCo
Ah! I love it. That is so cool. Thank you for pointing it out.
@Topic:
(https://monsterlegacy.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/avprwolfconceptwwhip.jpg?w=383)
Quote from: The Old One on Feb 25, 2019, 03:13:32 AM
@Topic:
https://monsterlegacy.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/avprwolfconceptwwhip.jpg?w=383
Nice 8)
Indeed, love the weapons myself.
I think the whip concept is pretty sweet. Especially that it's also supposed to be an Alien tail too. I also loved the pistol.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 05, 2019, 09:13:40 AM
I think the whip concept is pretty sweet. Especially that it's also supposed to be an Alien tail too. I also loved the pistol.
Yeah same here, loved the whip and pistol.
There are a lot of cool things/aspects that I liked within both these movies, just unfortunately they were very disappointing. But like I said, there were aspects of them that I liked, the Wolf Predator being one, dug the design and background of this particular predator. I liked the claustrophobic atmosphere they tried to achieve with AVP by basing it mostly within a pyramid under the ice... both movies had some really cool and interesting ideas and concepts, but they just failed to deliver. AVP is not a terrible movie and far better than AVP:R... it just needed to be more...well more adult, more edgy, to allow what I think Anderson wanted to really create, which at the time I hoped would be Event Horizon but in the Alien universe.
It's really indefensible as an Alien movie.
BUT - i do like to sometimes chuck it on alongside a movie like Syngenor or the '88 The Blob, it's actually a lot of fun as part of a "bad 80's movie" night, the vibe fits perfectly.
Do you like the egg-barfing?
It's a laugh. Thankfully it's not in a real movie.
Wolf, the potential of the Predalien (the realization not so much...), the return of a ridged head on the aliens and all of Wolf's new gear. The things that make me most excited for a new predator movie is literally the new potential tech and weapons. Too bad that's being put to the side in recent times...
The fifteen seconds of what I assume is a Predator home-world
Quote from: P-Rock on Feb 08, 2019, 12:00:09 AM
Say something you LIKE about AVPR:
Uhhhh... it has Aliens?
That's it. If pizza boy died instead of hot blonde I would've added another point.
Didnt he end up dying? I thought they ended up being caught in the nuke at the end
They crash but survive and get picked up by spec ops in the woods.
Quote from: BlazinBlue88 on Mar 17, 2019, 09:55:30 PM
Quote from: P-Rock on Feb 08, 2019, 12:00:09 AM
Say something you LIKE about AVPR:
Uhhhh... it has Aliens?
That's it. If pizza boy died instead of hot blonde I would've added another point.
Didnt he end up dying? I thought they ended up being caught in the nuke at the end
Pizza boy and the 3 others all lived, but I think Colin said he died of an infection due to the Predalien tail stab 2 weeks later. You can have that as a headcanon if you want.
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Quote from: P-Rock on Feb 08, 2019, 12:00:09 AM
Say something you LIKE about AVPR:
Uhhhh... it has Aliens?
That's it. If pizza boy died instead of hot blonde I would've added another point.
Didnt he end up dying? I thought they ended up being caught in the nuke at the end
They did in the earlier drafts.
AVPR is trashy as f**k ride to which i like to go back occasionally.
I liked the aliens heads more than the others post-Aliens. Probably the least fleshy alien body part ADI ever did. It looked less slimy.
(https://i.imgur.com/w7QUexg.jpg)
The area around Chet's back tubes had some biomech detail, the translucid front dome on it was nice too.
Wolf with the mask on looks as cool as Anytime, his tech/weapons were great. I prefer plasmacasters with Wolf's style, which extends behind the predator giving it more articulation to aim instead of glued to the shoulder, PCJ used this too.
The Requiem designs are the worst Alien designs put to film, by far.
Alien Design > Alien Queen Design > Alien³ Design >
Covenant Alien > Covenant Neomorph > Aliens Design > Resurrection > AVP > AVPR.
Wolf's dead on.
Drone Design: Alien > Aliens > Covenant > Alien 3 > AVPR > AVP > Alien R.
Last three have bad bodies, but I like the AVPR head. Alien R = slimiest, brown turd looking, chicken legs, the worse for me.
Quote from: The Old One on Mar 03, 2019, 11:02:58 PM
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"Drone" design; Alien > Alien³ > Covenant > Aliens > AR
Appropriate for Resurrection though, inappropriate elsewhere.
The Requiem head's a disaster, it's halloween suit tier craftsmanship.
A biomechanoid lusterless farce, leading to a ridiculous overbite and underbite simultaneously,
the end's phallic portion is, entirely unbalanced. As a bad painting is.
ADI's ridges are too different to the Giger/ Winston ones and only work when covered by the dome.
I don't mind the ridges as an alternate take, it's the face, teeth and neck that are at fault for me.
Those ridge gains are popping out.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/dbx39cNQ228/maxresdefault.jpg)
Nice that they added that skin on some games.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/games/avp3/skins/warriorridged2.jpg)
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Quote from: Samhain13 on Apr 09, 2019, 12:32:27 AM
Those ridge gains are popping out.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/dbx39cNQ228/maxresdefault.jpg)
Nice that they added that skin on some games.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/games/avp3/skins/warriorridged2.jpg)
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Jesus CHRIST that paintjob is lazy :o
No u.
I definitely put in more effort than they did there
The hospital hive looked good too.
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Didn't really make much sense though. Why not build it in a boiler room or laundry or some other place warm? Or just centre it on the maternity ward where the main victims were?
You really never miss an opportunity to say something bad about AVPR. Its like what keeps you going, even after all these years. Well I can relate, I do the same with David creating the alien. And now The Predator too.
Why it needed to be warm? The hive webs were also on the maternity ward, who knows where they started it. They are still building the place up, maybe we didn't saw the place where its centered on, where Chet plans to start laying eggs on the future.
Anyway my comment was more in regard the hive design than why the aliens builded on that specific place.
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She mirin the ridge gains.
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QuoteYou really never miss an opportunity to say something bad about AVPR. Its like what keeps you going, even after all these years.
If you want to carry on like a dickhead - perhaps don't bother.
Quote from: SM on Apr 09, 2019, 01:26:19 AM
If you want to carry on like a dickhead - perhaps don't bother.
Am I an alien now? :P
It was a joke buddy. Like I said I'm the same in regards David creating the alien. I will still complain about it long after Ridley is done with his trilogy.
But I have to admit that I got a little bothered that just by saying I liked something about AVPR, some feel the need to tell how wrong I am. Not specifically you in this case. This was suppose to be the positive AVPR thread.
I liked the look of the hospital corridor. Had a good Aliens vibe to it.
Quote from: SiL on Mar 06, 2019, 07:07:27 AM
I've never agreed with you more about anything.
Embrace the AvPR ♡ love ♡ on this thread....
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Or....
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;D
Quote from: Samhain13 on Apr 09, 2019, 01:34:03 AM
Quote from: SM on Apr 09, 2019, 01:26:19 AM
If you want to carry on like a dickhead - perhaps don't bother.
Am I an alien now? :P
It was a joke buddy. Like I said I'm the same in regards David creating the alien. I will still complain about it long after Ridley is done with his trilogy.
But I have to admit that I got a little bothered that just by saying I liked something about AVPR, some feel the need to tell how wrong I am. Not specifically you in this case. This was suppose to be the positive AVPR thread.
I didn't say you're wrong.
I said 'It didn't make sense
though'.
To rephrase - 'Yes, it may have looked cool, but its position didn't make sense'.
Quote from: SM on Apr 09, 2019, 02:27:55 AM
I didn't say you're wrong.
I said 'It didn't make sense though'.
To rephrase - 'Yes, it may have looked cool, but its position didn't make sense'.
My bad, in regards to people saying I was wrong, I was referring more in regards to the replies to my comment about the AVPR alien head.
The what now?
Just go back 1 page. The negative responses after my comment saying I liked the ridges and the hospital hive felt unnecessary. That's what I meant on that post.
Sorry I don't know what you're talking about. My post about ridges was general and not in response to anyone in particular.
Like I said:
Quote from: Samhain13 on Apr 09, 2019, 01:34:03 AM
Not specifically you in this case.
Quote from: SM on Apr 09, 2019, 03:50:07 AM
My post about ridges was general and not in response to anyone in particular.
I see, I thought all the replies were in reference to my post.
As i said, like the ridges, don't like the rest of the head though. And the pic i commented on the paintjob genuinely does look pisspoor but that has nothing to do with the design itself.
Come on guys and gals. This is a thread dedicated to what we like about AvPR. There's multiple threads dedicated to the bad things of AvPR, like the recently created thread "Moments in AVP:R That Made You Cringe/Laugh".
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=62004.0.
So go there and have at it! ;D
And let's knock off the name calling. Calling people names like "dickhead" do not further good discussion. Cheers!
Quote from: [CANCERBLACK] on Apr 09, 2019, 04:01:10 AM
As i said, like the ridges, don't like the rest of the head though. And the pic i commented on the paintjob genuinely does look pisspoor but that has nothing to do with the design itself.
Paintjobs in a fully lit photo are forgivable if they look alright on film. I didn't see any issues with the paintjob in the film (when they're visible).
Quote from: SM on Apr 09, 2019, 04:09:41 AM
Quote from: [CANCERBLACK] on Apr 09, 2019, 04:01:10 AM
As i said, like the ridges, don't like the rest of the head though. And the pic i commented on the paintjob genuinely does look pisspoor but that has nothing to do with the design itself.
Paintjobs in a fully lit photo are forgivable if they look alright on film. I didn't see any issues with the paintjob in the film (when they're visible).
Fair point, but it looks fantastically bad there regardless. Even within the same picture the arm/shoulder-rim looks much better than the head, especially the neck area. Of course it's AvP:R and darkness hides
most sins on-screen.
Indeed it looks terrible in that photo. It also looks as if the paint has rubbed off on the side of the neck, possibly through use while filming?
To my eye it looks like grey paint applied too thickly rather than paint rubbed off, but yes that spot bugs me the most.
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Those ridge gains are popping out.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/dbx39cNQ228/maxresdefault.jpg)
Nice that they added that skin on some games.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/games/avp3/skins/warriorridged1.jpg)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/games/avp3/skins/warriorridged2.jpg)
You don't see how the heads, aside from maintaining the ridges
(which even then omitt the first one and the ridiculous last one)
are completely different?
That's why they look way better than the actual Requiem design. The proportions.
Thanks all for complying! :P
Quote from: Samhain13 on Apr 08, 2019, 09:32:21 PM
I liked the aliens heads more than the others post-Aliens. Probably the least fleshy alien body part ADI ever did. It looked less slimy.
Cool that you liked it! That's what this very thread is designed for! Thanks for sharing!
Quote from: The Old One on Apr 09, 2019, 09:31:10 AM
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You don't see how the heads, aside from maintaining the ridges
(which even then omitt the first one and the ridiculous last one)
are completely different?
There is a difference, that skin is made to fit with the basic alien model on that game so its not going to be an exactly copy of the AVPR alien, they just took the main ridges design. So what? I just said I like the ridges. What's the point of this? You already said you hate the AVPR head, I don't, so whatever.
Quote from: The Old One on Apr 09, 2019, 09:31:10 AM
That's why they look way better than the actual Requiem design. The proportions.
To me its more the different body that makes it better.
I know, you misread my reply.
Quote
You don't see how the heads, aside from maintaining the ridges
(which even then omitt the first one and the ridiculous last one)
are completely different?
That's why they look way better than the actual Requiem design. The proportions.
The ridges' similar yes, but altered and everything else is completely different.
So what? I like both takes on the alien heads, be it on AVPR or the games that ridge style was used on.
Alright.
I'm saying the AVP (2010) version's good, the AVPR version's bad. Basically.
Although I enjoy the "carved" visual itself, the Requiem application's awful.
Let's not forget that this thread for highlighting what people consider positive aspects of the film. Let's not try to trash all over that.
Thanks Hicks.
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Regardless of the location.
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This is the ideal Male body, you may not like it but this is what peak performance looks like.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 09, 2019, 04:45:23 PM
Let's not forget that this thread for highlighting what people consider positive aspects of the film. Let's not try to trash all over that.
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It had gore, and some of Wolf's weapons were interesting.
Quote from: LastSonofKrypton on Apr 09, 2019, 08:36:13 PM
It had gore, and some of Wolf's weapons were interesting.
See! Ya did it!
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When I watched it a few weeks back (with AvP), I still liked it more than AvP. It's got an 80's B-movie charm to it that makes it fit with things like The Blob for comfy cheesy movie nights. I like the ridges on the Aliens, if not other details.
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Not actually huge on Wolf tbh :o
Can't remember the last time I watched AVP:R...I watch the Alien movies on the regular, once in a blue moon AVP but I never watch AVP:R.
Quote from: The Old One on Apr 09, 2019, 05:40:54 PM
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This is the ideal Male body, you may not like it but this is what peak performance looks like.
Wolf is BADASS LOOKING!
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Quote from: The Old One on Apr 09, 2019, 05:40:54 PM
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This is the ideal Male body, you may not like it but this is what peak performance looks like.
Wolf is BADASS LOOKING!
Agreed. With the helmet on, agreed.
Wolf is a shit Predator, in design and action and especially in interaction with Aliens.
But the chubby, gimpy Aliens he has non-interactions with have actually awesome head ridges, it's a great alt-design for the creatures until it hits the neck and body. I'd really like to see more of that design of cranium on a Cameralien body/jaws/neck, it'd be a cool variant structure to make all the Aliens as well as the Preds unique in a SPACE AvP hypothetical
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Apr 09, 2019, 08:44:32 PM
When I watched it a few weeks back (with AvP), I still liked it more than AvP. It's got an 80's B-movie charm to it that makes it fit with things like The Blob for comfy cheesy movie nights. I like the ridges on the Aliens, if not other details.
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Not actually huge on Wolf tbh :o
That was well put :laugh: Whenever I do my yearly Alien/Predator/AvP run, I include AvP:R with the others. So, I watch it regularly I guess. It definitely doesn't fit with any of the other movies, and despite the many problems it has, there is a certain "charm" to it that makes it fit with those Critters/80's horror movies that I remember growing up with. There's entertainment value there.
Critters is another good comparison.
I like the opening, pretty much everything inside the Predator ship until one of them starts shooting like crazy. The trophy room was cool, the Predator cleaning the Alien skull, and what you could see of the Predalien. Too bad there was no real fight in the spaceship.
I do enjoy the scenes when we're following Wolf, specially when he's investigating in the Predator ship and later starts preparing for war.
Loved seeing the Predator Homeworld.
The Alien lurking under the Predator in the Power Plant was cool.
Aliens vs the army was ok too.
The score is pretty good.
Guesa that's it.
I do watch it from time to time, but usually I have to speed over the human scenes to be able to finish it.
Quote from: Katanu on Oct 23, 2019, 10:40:41 PM
I do watch it from time to time, but usually I have to speed over the human scenes to be able to finish it.
But that "pizza boy in love with popular hot girl" plotline is crucial!
The clock thing always gives me a chuckle.
"Now are you looking at me, or the clock?"
Good grief... :laugh:
The "we both know that's not what you're looking at" part always seemed so weirdly intense to me. It's like the line was written as being cute & cheeky, to be delivered with a flirty grin, but the actress went the wrong way with it.
I liked how Wolf showed sorrow for his fellow predator.
Quote from: PsyKore on Nov 06, 2019, 11:51:40 AM
Quote from: Katanu on Oct 23, 2019, 10:40:41 PM
I do watch it from time to time, but usually I have to speed over the human scenes to be able to finish it.
But that "pizza boy in love with popular hot girl" plotline is crucial!
I still can't believe there is such a thing in an Alien - Predator movie :laugh:
Going back to the good stuff, I agree with Master Chief, Wolf showing sorrow for the dead Predators was cool, and something that was carried over to the 2010 Aliens vs. Predator game if I'm not mistaken.
The "pizza boy in love with popular hot girl" is what helps bond the estranged brothers when they search for the keys, and later it leads to the police being alerted to the Alien threat.
So kinda crucial.
When it ended
Quote from: SM on Nov 06, 2019, 07:36:58 PM
The "pizza boy in love with popular hot girl" is what helps bond the estranged brothers when they search for the keys, and later it leads to the police being alerted to the Alien threat.
So kinda crucial.
Nobody cares = Not crucial.
There is a school of thought that says booty is always crucial.
Even in AVP.
Quote from: PsyKore on Nov 06, 2019, 09:55:45 PM
Quote from: SM on Nov 06, 2019, 07:36:58 PM
The "pizza boy in love with popular hot girl" is what helps bond the estranged brothers when they search for the keys, and later it leads to the police being alerted to the Alien threat.
So kinda crucial.
Nobody cares = Not crucial.
Whether anyone cares or not is besides the point.
The alien riding on top the car.
Quote from: PsyKore on Nov 06, 2019, 11:58:07 AM
"Now are you looking at me, or the clock?"
Good grief... :laugh:
You all be cwazy.
That line was properly setup. It was executed fine. I have no problems with it.
Quote from: Katanu on Oct 23, 2019, 10:40:41 PM
The score is pretty good.
I really was pleasantly surprised with the score.
Yeah,"Predator arrival" being a favorite of mine.
Quote from: Huggs on Nov 06, 2019, 10:03:26 PM
There is a school of thought that says booty is always crucial.
Even in AVP.
:laugh: Yeah, I can understand that.
Quote from: SM on Nov 06, 2019, 10:42:14 PM
Quote from: PsyKore on Nov 06, 2019, 09:55:45 PM
Quote from: SM on Nov 06, 2019, 07:36:58 PM
The "pizza boy in love with popular hot girl" is what helps bond the estranged brothers when they search for the keys, and later it leads to the police being alerted to the Alien threat.
So kinda crucial.
Nobody cares = Not crucial.
Whether anyone cares or not is besides the point.
You know, I wasn't really being that serious, honestly. Just taking the piss. But when I think about it, the plot is just a by-the-numbers routine to get to the real meat and potatoes: a town being overrun by Aliens. You can literally swap out all characters and replace them and you're still gonna have an Alien invasion movie all the same. The characters have no bearing on anything, we're just unfortunately following them around at the start. The cops would be alerted eventually no matter what. Make of that what you will, but I really think there is no proper plot or substance to this film, honestly.
There's a plot certainly. Ultimately it's just about escaping the monsters and not miles away from other Alien flicks. Unlike other Alien flicks the characters have very little say over their fate beyond the choices of siding with Kelly or Eddie. You could pretty much change anyone except those two.
The first film had the extra bump of an interesting environment. But a real world xeno invasion under these circumstances wouldn't be a grand Shakespearean drama. All you'd have is a plain town full of regular folk getting wiped out. Including pizza boys, veterans, convicts, homeless individuals, waitresses, cops who are out of their element, etc. Many of whom would be saying and doing things we might find ridiculous or foolish while trying to survive.
A change of location would've lent itself to a more exciting story. But for portraying an "Aliens come to Bucksnort" story, it's workable.
I like Pizza Boy's girlfriend and Predators home world.
I like the look of the PredAlien.
Quote from: EJA on Nov 20, 2019, 05:32:15 PM
I like the look of the PredAlien.
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If you're a real H.R Giger fiend, and appreciate what's great about the original design, you really understand it- you'll hate the PredAlien. And it's just ugly, inelegant, totally contradictory to the point of the original.
Agreed. As a random monster or totally-not-Alien in some other movie, I wouldn't mind it - but as an Actual Alien, it's just poor design.
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Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Nov 20, 2019, 08:41:15 PM
If you're a real H.R Giger fiend, and appreciate what's great about the original design, you really understand it- you'll hate the PredAlien. And it's just ugly, inelegant, totally contradictory to the point of the original.
I'm a fan, not quite a fiend. :)
Plus Giger called Alien Resurrection an excellent film, and you know how I feel about that! ;)
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Nov 20, 2019, 09:06:23 PM
Agreed. As a random monster or totally-not-Alien in some other movie, I wouldn't mind it - but as an Actual Alien, it's just poor design.
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All I see the Predalien on the left and the Newborn on the right.
Spoiler
;D
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Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Nov 20, 2019, 08:41:15 PM
If you're a real H.R Giger fiend, and appreciate what's great about the original design, you really understand it- you'll hate the PredAlien. And it's just ugly, inelegant, totally contradictory to the point of the original.
I'm a fan, not quite a fiend. :)
Plus Giger called Alien Resurrection an excellent film, and you know how I feel about that! ;)
Fox forced him to say that. :P
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Nov 20, 2019, 09:06:23 PM
Agreed. As a random monster or totally-not-Alien in some other movie, I wouldn't mind it - but as an Actual Alien, it's just poor design.
Spoiler
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Everything about it - the design, the performance, the egg barfage - was forever cursed.
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Nov 20, 2019, 08:41:15 PM
If you're a real H.R Giger fiend, and appreciate what's great about the original design, you really understand it- you'll hate the PredAlien. And it's just ugly, inelegant, totally contradictory to the point of the original.
Did you want to say "
a True fan ™ " ?
Gotta agree with Voodoo, the Predalien is much better than the Newborn.
I find them both equally creepy, in a positive way.
Nothing positive about the PredAlien, it's even got an inferior version of the Chestburster from the last film.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Nov 21, 2019, 12:41:11 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Nov 20, 2019, 11:24:20 PM
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Nov 20, 2019, 08:41:15 PM
If you're a real H.R Giger fiend, and appreciate what's great about the original design, you really understand it- you'll hate the PredAlien. And it's just ugly, inelegant, totally contradictory to the point of the original.
I'm a fan, not quite a fiend. :)
Plus Giger called Alien Resurrection an excellent film, and you know how I feel about that! ;)
Fox forced him to say that. :P
Did they tie him up and tickle his feet?
He wasn't credited for the creature design, as soon as that was rectified- he said what he really thought. ADI's Alien gallery from AR onwards concerning the adult creature, is just as trash as their Predator work.
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Nov 21, 2019, 01:38:06 AM
He wasn't credited for the creature design, as soon as that was rectified- he said what he really thought. ADI's Alien gallery from AR onwards concerning the adult creature, is just as trash as their Predator work.
That sneaky Swiss!
#SayNoToSnailiens?
AvP:R is a turd but does have some decent Alien head-bites.
The murky, black cinematography is a blessing; it helps hide the sh*t Alien costumes.
I hate the PredAlien too, but I sure do love that skull.
The predalien in full bright light looks so bad I have to agree, but in the movie there were scenes where Chet didn't look too bad IMO, like Elmazalman said, the horrendous lighting actually helped in that instant.
It's not a movie - It's f**king shadow theatre
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Nov 20, 2019, 11:24:20 PM
Plus Giger called Alien Resurrection an excellent film, and you know how I feel about that! ;)
He also said the aliens looked like turds. I'm pretty sure he'd hate the Predalien.
Quote from: PsyKore on Nov 22, 2019, 08:17:21 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Nov 20, 2019, 11:24:20 PM
Plus Giger called Alien Resurrection an excellent film, and you know how I feel about that! ;)
He also said the aliens looked like turds. I'm pretty sure he'd hate the Predalien.
Pffft! Giger loves dreadlocks! ;D
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Huh, that's a good point !
Resurrection is way better than AVP-R though. The acting, the cinematography, the soundtrack, the budget... But they both share a terrible script.
Yeah, agreed- and knowing H.R Giger's view of the AR Alien, I think the idea he liked the PredAlien as presented in AVP/R is ludicrous.
Quote from: P-Rock on Nov 24, 2019, 09:20:07 PM
Resurrection is way better than AVP-R though. The acting, the cinematography, the soundtrack, the budget... But they both share a terrible script.
I like them both.
And I like AVPR the most.
Mwuhahaha!!!
I can't stand them, really AVP or AVPR.
Sometimes, I'm just in the mood to see Aliens and Predators tear sh*t up.
Quote from: Huggs on Nov 24, 2019, 11:39:26 PM
Sometimes, I'm just in the mood to see Aliens and Predators tear sh*t up.
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Quote from: Huggs on Nov 24, 2019, 11:39:26 PM
Sometimes, I'm just in the mood to see Aliens and Predators tear sh*t up.
"see" lol
Talk about circular discussion.
Round and round.
Quote from: SM on Nov 25, 2019, 10:54:58 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Nov 24, 2019, 11:39:26 PM
Sometimes, I'm just in the mood to see Aliens and Predators tear sh*t up.
"see" lol
You gotta stop watching those dvd's man. ;D
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Quote from: SM on Nov 25, 2019, 10:54:58 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Nov 24, 2019, 11:39:26 PM
Sometimes, I'm just in the mood to see Aliens and Predators tear sh*t up.
"see" lol
You gotta stop watching those dvd's man. ;D
I'm on dvd and can see (most of it) just fine. The movie seems to like laptop screens.
Quote from: Huggs on Nov 25, 2019, 11:30:07 PM
Quote from: SM on Nov 25, 2019, 10:54:58 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Nov 24, 2019, 11:39:26 PM
Sometimes, I'm just in the mood to see Aliens and Predators tear sh*t up.
"see" lol
You gotta stop watching those dvd's man. ;D
Old school Vhs.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Nov 26, 2019, 12:54:16 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Nov 25, 2019, 11:30:07 PM
Quote from: SM on Nov 25, 2019, 10:54:58 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Nov 24, 2019, 11:39:26 PM
Sometimes, I'm just in the mood to see Aliens and Predators tear sh*t up.
"see" lol
You gotta stop watching those dvd's man. ;D
Old school Vhs.
With your blast shield down.
(https://external-preview.redd.it/9aShLvFvF6AbQZZNupbdT3YswM2Y2PV62BafdbvUe8g.jpg?auto=webp&s=52658ea4c3d86746229a2643659cfb4e80852536)
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Nov 26, 2019, 12:50:19 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Nov 25, 2019, 11:30:07 PM
Quote from: SM on Nov 25, 2019, 10:54:58 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Nov 24, 2019, 11:39:26 PM
Sometimes, I'm just in the mood to see Aliens and Predators tear sh*t up.
"see" lol
You gotta stop watching those dvd's man. ;D
I'm on dvd and can see (most of it) just fine. The movie seems to like laptop screens.
Blu-ray is shite and all. And the AvP Blu-ray is grainy as buggery as well.
AvP was grainy in theaters. It's just how it always looked.
Trying to replicate the look of Aliens and Predator I imagine.
Quote from: SiL on Dec 05, 2019, 10:21:42 AM
AvP was grainy in theaters. It's just how it always looked.
I'd never noticed till I had to get some screencaps. And then thought maybe it'd been a shitty transfer.
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Dec 05, 2019, 04:08:18 PM
Trying to replicate the look of Aliens and Predator I imagine.
Just a result of high-speed film stock. It's most noticeable on scenes lit mostly with torches.
Ah, I see.
As much as this movie's awful it's the reason that one PSP game with which I had a lot of fun playing exists.
So it's awfully good?
Movie is awful, game is decent fun (there's just not much A/P games on PSP in general)
Just the one game. I did used to have the UMDs for the movies too. I always enjoyed that little thing, the PSP was fun.
Ahaha, forgot, that was a thing.
Quote from: Kradan on Dec 14, 2019, 08:45:27 PM
Movie is awful, game is decent fun (there's just not much A/P games on PSP in general)
So more than The Predator gave the world, then? :P
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 16, 2019, 11:49:37 AM
Just the one game. I did used to have the UMDs for the movies too. I always enjoyed that little thing, the PSP was fun.
Indeed it was
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Dec 16, 2019, 08:46:01 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Dec 14, 2019, 08:45:27 PM
Movie is awful, game is decent fun (there's just not much A/P games on PSP in general)
So more than The Predator gave the world, then? :P
Yeah, very funny. f**king bravo . Clap clap
(https://i.chzbgr.com/full/7956859392/hC9EB1B1E/sarcastic-cyber-clap)
Have you seen that episode of the simpsons, kradan?
Yep, but long long ago. What does it change ?
I don't remember that one.
Quote from: Kradan on Dec 16, 2019, 09:27:01 PM
Yep, but long long ago. What does it change ?
It changes me to slightly impressed that we finally found a 90's show that you've seen.
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Dec 16, 2019, 09:31:12 PM
I don't remember that one.
Homer discovers the internet and immediately starts a fake news site, but gets abducted by a global conspiracy who coincidentally are doing the exact thing to vaccines he said they were.
:D
Art reflects reality.
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Dec 16, 2019, 11:36:57 PM
Art reflects reality.
*predicts, the episode will be 20 years old soon.
Wow, yeah that's right.
Just watched it and I actually really like how it shows a predator world and a skilled hunter getting in what my opinions is a bounty
Wolf? Skilled? He's an idiot.
Quote from: Trioxin on Jan 08, 2020, 04:53:50 AM
Just watched it and I actually really like how it shows a predator world and a skilled hunter getting in what my opinions is a bounty
The Predator world scene was sadly less than a minute, and Gunnison/ Port Moody isn't terribly exciting.
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Jan 08, 2020, 05:25:52 AM
Wolf? Skilled? He's an idiot.
I don't hear you ! Lalalalalalala !
Don't make me beat you with the my metal pipe of re-education :laugh:
Fiendish is right, Wolf was not skilled, he even screwed up a lot and his opponents were even worse than he was, so he proved nothing by beating them.
His design was cool however, back to form after those horrible bulky preds from the first film.
Quote from: Trioxin on Jan 08, 2020, 04:53:50 AM
Just watched it and I actually really like how it shows a predator world and a skilled hunter getting in what my opinions is a bounty
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Jan 08, 2020, 05:25:52 AM
Wolf? Skilled? He's an idiot.
Quote from: SM on Jan 08, 2020, 05:37:50 AM
Quote from: Trioxin on Jan 08, 2020, 04:53:50 AM
Just watched it and I actually really like how it shows a predator world and a skilled hunter getting in what my opinions is a bounty
The Predator world scene was sadly less than a minute, and Gunnison/ Port Moody isn't terribly exciting.
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 08, 2020, 10:51:05 AM
Don't make me beat you with the my metal pipe of re-education :laugh:
Fiendish is right, Wolf was not skilled, he even screwed up a lot and his opponents were even worse than he was, so he proved nothing by beating them.
His design was cool however, back to form after those horrible bulky preds from the first film.
Remember all, the thread is "Say something you LIKE about AVPR - Aliens vs Predator: Requiem", not "Clobber what someone LIKES about AVPR - Aliens vs Predator: Requiem." :P
Quote from: Trioxin on Jan 08, 2020, 04:53:50 AM
Just watched it and I actually really like how it shows a predator world and a skilled hunter getting in what my opinions is a bounty
I like those aspects too Trioxin. :)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 08, 2020, 12:55:07 PM
Remember all, the thread is "Say something you LIKE about AVPR - Aliens vs Predator: Requiem", not "Clobber what someone LIKES about AVPR - Aliens vs Predator: Requiem." :P
But I did :laugh:
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 08, 2020, 10:51:05 AM
His design was cool however, back to form after those horrible bulky preds from the first film.
I also like Wolf's design, and the gear, yes even the powerglove but nothing much else.
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Jan 08, 2020, 01:54:06 PM
I also like Wolf's design, and the gear, yes even the powerglove but nothing much else.
Funny I thought he looked like a bobble head.
It does, without the mask.
ADI's heads grew with every movie, with The Predator being the most bobblish of bobbleheads. :(
(https://i.ibb.co/fxjtyZz/IMG-20200108-151004.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/7vgq776/20200108-151455.png)
I miss you Stan.
Shhh, don't rain on my parade.
Got to love Wolf's whip though... an excellent addition to the Predator's weaponry!
(https://i.4pcdn.org/tv/1545776876792.gif)
No argument there.
Yea the whip is awesome you can't deny that. Avpr isn't that bad neither is a.r but AVP imo takes the prize as worst of the franchise
The whip was just another decent idea shoddily executed by cinematography, darkness and bad editing.
Quote from: Trioxin on Jan 09, 2020, 12:10:55 AM
Yea the whip is awesome you can't deny that. Avpr isn't that bad neither is a.r but AVP imo takes the prize as worst of the franchise
For some of us here it's actually mindless popcorn fun that is more enjoyable than Alien Resurrection, The Predator and/or AvP. But alas, it's weak competition no matter how you rank it. :)
Avpr is the best of the worst as others have put it.
Quote from: Trioxin on Jan 09, 2020, 02:01:12 AM
Avpr is the best of the worst as others have put it.
My Man!(https://media1.tenor.com/images/a5d978ff58780f374e37de9690f4641a/tenor.gif)
Quote from: Trioxin on Jan 09, 2020, 02:01:12 AM
Avpr is the best of the worst as others have put it.
AvPR is the nadir.
Quote from: SM on Jan 09, 2020, 02:19:58 AM
Quote from: Trioxin on Jan 09, 2020, 02:01:12 AM
Avpr is the best of the worst as others have put it.
AvPR is the nadir.
Read the subject of this thread again.
A SM pattern is forming, although I agree, I disagree that here's the right place for it.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Freplygif.net%2Fi%2F127.gif&hash=5ad1919528d6590fb432124205e56610aae21698)
AVPR is objectively the worst, but I can see reasons to hate AVP, The Predator and Resurrection more, certainly not the best stuff, any of them though.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 09, 2020, 02:09:42 AM
Quote from: Trioxin on Jan 09, 2020, 02:01:12 AM
Avpr is the best of the worst as others have put it.
My Man!
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/a5d978ff58780f374e37de9690f4641a/tenor.gif)
Now I finally understand what it's all about :laugh: *cough cough* So Bad, It's Good (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SoBadItsGood) *cough cough*
Yeah, that's the only way it's enjoyable, it's an Asylum film with the AVP license.
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Jan 09, 2020, 03:30:59 AM
Yeah, that's the only way it's enjoyable, it's an Asylum film with the AVP license.
Interesting way to look at it!
I actually found the way the movie portrayed the town getting invaded pretty scary. Something about that hospital scene works really well. We see the hospital overflowing with injured townsfolk and that's a harrowing scene in of itself. Then later on we see the exact same spot and it's completely empty. No sign of a struggle even. (because you know, cocooned and all that)
Creepy as hell.
We never get to see all the wounded people inside though, and the panic and doctors being overwhelmed. All we see is maternity which is all but empty. Is there even anybody in the hive? Woulda been cool to see some people stuck to the walls.
Yeah the only people that was cocooned were the pregnant women. Without eggs about, there probably was no reason to cocoon anyone to the walls.
I found the opposite. I found that in the beginning killing a child was to me a bit of a shock l. " oh damn they are killing kids now." Later on the hospital scene... It just to me felt like the director was like "well we started off by killing a kid and his father what's worse than that ?"
Less said about that the better...
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 12, 2020, 01:10:13 PM
Yeah the only people that was cocooned were the pregnant women. Without eggs about, there probably was no reason to cocoon anyone to the walls.
But they wrote Chet to be the Queen didn't they? She'd start laying in the next day or so.
I think Colin might have said it would take like a week for it to become a full... PredQueen? Huh.
But its been so long I don't remember well.
The imagery of Chet standing in front of helpless newborns really terrifies me 'cause I'm afraid to even think what she would possibly do to them, Brrrr,,,
I think they could've had Dallas and co. walk past the maternity ward later and just have a shot of all the cribs be empty. There's no blood and the characters don't comment on it.
I like the fact I can use AVP and AVPR Alien designs- from NECA as the Resurrected Drone and Warrior from the PS1 title.
Quote from: SM on Jan 12, 2020, 05:48:00 PM
Less said about that the better...
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 12, 2020, 01:10:13 PM
Yeah the only people that was cocooned were the pregnant women. Without eggs about, there probably was no reason to cocoon anyone to the walls.
But they wrote Chet to be the Queen didn't they? She'd start laying in the next day or so.
I'm not so sure it was that they wrote her to be a Queen, as they thought the Queen angle up as they went along. From what Crom said in our interview, Shalerno had just given the normal adult Aliens the eggbarfing ability in the first draft they received but the Brothers had it moved over to the PredAlien as perhaps it was just something the PredAliens were able to do...
Ah. Righto.
They should never have come up with that for the Predalien, nevermind a warrior. Didn't mind the idea that the Predalien being a queen but the eggbarfing is a terrible concept that renders the usual life-cycle more or less pointless.
Lost potential there, as if the predalien actually did morph gradually during the movie, then the constant battles between wolf and chet would start getting more dangerous and one sided, thus making wolf having to use less direct methods.
That is genuine horror, never liked the idea of regular Alien becoming a Queen without becoming a Praetorian first, abandoning all the host's influence and becoming "pure" it also ought to take years. Otherwise the Royal Egg, Royal Facehugger, Queen bloodline is pointless. Thankfully, Alien The RPG says just as much.
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 13, 2020, 01:36:52 PM
They should never have come up with that for the Predalien, nevermind a warrior. Didn't mind the idea that the Predalien being a queen but the eggbarfing is a terrible concept that renders the usual life-cycle more or less pointless.
Unless you subscribe to the
Voodoo Magic Egg Barfing Theory. Yautja mouth = Reproductive Organ
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.predatorstuff.com%2Fimages%2Fwps%2Fbhelder01_1920x1200.jpg&hash=fa385ec95155f7d4c0ce7ace48ac9c06a6e07826)
DNA Reflex. Predator DNA is dominant and exerts a greater influence over the Alien species than other species.
That's a okay idea I think, if such a creature is rare, pity it's attached to such an abhorrent design.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 13, 2020, 03:19:45 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 13, 2020, 01:36:52 PM
They should never have come up with that for the Predalien, nevermind a warrior. Didn't mind the idea that the Predalien being a queen but the eggbarfing is a terrible concept that renders the usual life-cycle more or less pointless.
Unless you subscribe to the Voodoo Magic Egg Barfing Theory.
Yautja mouth = Reproductive Organ
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.predatorstuff.com%2Fimages%2Fwps%2Fbhelder01_1920x1200.jpg&hash=fa385ec95155f7d4c0ce7ace48ac9c06a6e07826)
DNA Reflex. Predator DNA is dominant and exerts a greater influence over the Alien species than other species.
Then why do they all wear codpieces? It seems redundant if their sexual organs and sensitive areas are the mouth. :P
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 13, 2020, 03:43:26 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 13, 2020, 03:19:45 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 13, 2020, 01:36:52 PM
They should never have come up with that for the Predalien, nevermind a warrior. Didn't mind the idea that the Predalien being a queen but the eggbarfing is a terrible concept that renders the usual life-cycle more or less pointless.
Unless you subscribe to the Voodoo Magic Egg Barfing Theory.
Yautja mouth = Reproductive Organ
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.predatorstuff.com%2Fimages%2Fwps%2Fbhelder01_1920x1200.jpg&hash=fa385ec95155f7d4c0ce7ace48ac9c06a6e07826)
DNA Reflex. Predator DNA is dominant and exerts a greater influence over the Alien species than other species.
Then why do they all wear codpieces? It seems redundant if their sexual organs and sensitive areas are the mouth. :P
Under the codpiece is what urinates and expels waste. And of course, if there's room, under the codpiece is where they also keep the keys to the spaceship.
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 13, 2020, 03:43:26 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 13, 2020, 03:19:45 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 13, 2020, 01:36:52 PM
They should never have come up with that for the Predalien, nevermind a warrior. Didn't mind the idea that the Predalien being a queen but the eggbarfing is a terrible concept that renders the usual life-cycle more or less pointless.
Unless you subscribe to the Voodoo Magic Egg Barfing Theory.
Yautja mouth = Reproductive Organ
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.predatorstuff.com%2Fimages%2Fwps%2Fbhelder01_1920x1200.jpg&hash=fa385ec95155f7d4c0ce7ace48ac9c06a6e07826)
DNA Reflex. Predator DNA is dominant and exerts a greater influence over the Alien species than other species.
Then why do they all wear codpieces? It seems redundant if their sexual organs and sensitive areas are the mouth. :P
They wear helmets most of the time too.
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 13, 2020, 03:43:26 PM
Then why do they all wear codpieces? It seems redundant if their sexual organs and sensitive areas are the mouth. :P
Because the only thing they got from us on their first visit was some Austrian DNA and a bootleg copy of Conan the Barbarian.
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 13, 2020, 09:25:11 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 13, 2020, 03:43:26 PM
Then why do they all wear codpieces? It seems redundant if their sexual organs and sensitive areas are the mouth. :P
Because the only thing they got from us on their first visit was some Austrian DNA and a bootleg copy of Conan the Barbarian.
First visit?
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/IJWTsWU7mqE/maxresdefault.jpg)
;)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 13, 2020, 09:30:14 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 13, 2020, 09:25:11 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 13, 2020, 03:43:26 PM
Then why do they all wear codpieces? It seems redundant if their sexual organs and sensitive areas are the mouth. :P
Because the only thing they got from us on their first visit was some Austrian DNA and a bootleg copy of Conan the Barbarian.
First visit?
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/IJWTsWU7mqE/maxresdefault.jpg)
;)
That predecessor was just lost. By the time he shared the discovery of this new world, Schwarzenegger was a big deal.
predator homeworld.
the chestburster
wolf predator
predalien design
The first one's good, the rest, truly abysmal.
Quote from: thexenomorphfanboy on Mar 08, 2020, 04:18:11 AM
predator homeworld.
the chestburster
wolf predator
predalien design
Ohhhh yeaaah!!!!(https://66.media.tumblr.com/fde955c11e64812dc6c06f7280765be3/tumblr_pgviblUyWO1rgaid9o1_400.gifv)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3b/1e/8f/3b1e8fbfc4e38ec27498f3c869d3116f.gif)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/32/b1/c8/32b1c82a087cd01cd3a20e9321f60545.jpg)
And with his mask on? Hellz yeah!!
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/3cd61a5eea89f1c55d0d57fd82f253fb/tumblr_pibszkszzO1rgaid9o4_250.gifv)
;D
The Whip Wolf used was pretty cool. And the fact that it was made out of a Xeno tail is even cooler. I hope to see that thing in future movies and games.
1. I liked Brian Tyler's score.
2. I liked the O.W.L.F contamination display on the colonel's monitor projecting how far the aliens will spread in 48 hours. Even though he has no idea what the aliens are or how they work. It's like he read the script or something.
3. I liked how the aliens on the rooftop awkwardly and slowly bobbled around like a bunch of clueless sheep instead of running straight at the humans and killing them instantly.
4. I liked when Jesse, the girl who incountered Aliens multiple times and stuck with the group, inexplicably decided to be a coward and run away after the group kills an alien. I guess the strause brothers just really wanted her to get hit with Wolf's shuriken.
Wolf's design was neat, his body language too.
Quote2. I liked the O.W.L.F contamination display on the general's monitor showing all the Aliens spreading across the town in infrared. Because, as we all know, Aliens show up on infrared.
That was projection mapping, not infrared.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 11, 2021, 02:04:41 AM
Quote2. I liked the O.W.L.F contamination display on the general's monitor showing all the Aliens spreading across the town in infrared. Because, as we all know, Aliens show up on infrared.
That was projection mapping, not infrared.
Fixed it.
The colonel didn't program the projection :D
Well someone clearly has info that they logically shouldn't have.
I liked the idea of a Hospital setting, liked the Predalien sounds and the fact that its been kept in the shadows
Everything was kept in shadows in that movie ;D
I could see the clock just fine!
I wasn't looking at the clock ;D
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/9d2416501a5eb1e4d3f39c8edc666d79/tenor.gif)
I think I chuckled when Ricky said, "At least I know who ordered the sausage-lovers pizza". :laugh:
It's great trash to cuddle to.
I will hold you to that.
I mean allegedly tho
Too late, this is "our thing" now. I've already had the t-shrits and mugs printed.
Oh no
Just as I would love to see a whole movie based on that impeccable scene with Guy Pearce...
that then becomes a Hannibal-WestWorld-Blade Runner hybrid :-X(https://i.ibb.co/YtpJ6g0/1-zgdq-Xi-BJe-Um-RIr-Mo-J-ggg.jpg)
I'd like to see a feature film of Wolf's home world. That should be the sequel to Requiem. We return to the beginning, we see Wolf leave for Earth and we continue there to explore this warm volcanic landscape full of Mesoamerican-style cities. A normal day in the life of a Predator when he / she is not hunting.
What's not to like?
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 02, 2021, 01:52:32 AM
Just as I would love to see a whole movie based on that impeccable scene with Guy Pearce...that then becomes a Hannibal-WestWorld-Blade Runner hybrid :-X
https://i.ibb.co/YtpJ6g0/1-zgdq-Xi-BJe-Um-RIr-Mo-J-ggg.jpg
I'd like to see a feature film of Wolf's home world. That should be the sequel to Requiem. We return to the beginning, we see Wolf leave for Earth and we continue there to explore this warm volcanic landscape full of Mesoamerican-style cities. A normal day in the life of a Predator when he / she is not hunting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZSq8YJeWDg
This summer -
T H E
P R E D A T O R
GOES TO THE SHOPS
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Feb 01, 2021, 08:07:05 PM
Too late, this is "our thing" now. I've already had the t-shrits and mugs printed.
;D ;D ;D May God have mercy on your soul, TQ ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Huggs on Feb 02, 2021, 02:01:01 AM
What's not to like?
Is egg-barfing as much of an insult to Alien's lore as harvesting autism to Predator's ?
That's alright I can find a way to avoid this fate by distracting him... or just hide for a time. My pov:
Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/UWLuvjU.gif?noredirect)
Quote from: SM on Feb 02, 2021, 04:30:10 AM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 02, 2021, 01:52:32 AM
Just as I would love to see a whole movie based on that impeccable scene with Guy Pearce...that then becomes a Hannibal-WestWorld-Blade Runner hybrid :-X
https://i.ibb.co/YtpJ6g0/1-zgdq-Xi-BJe-Um-RIr-Mo-J-ggg.jpg
I'd like to see a feature film of Wolf's home world. That should be the sequel to Requiem. We return to the beginning, we see Wolf leave for Earth and we continue there to explore this warm volcanic landscape full of Mesoamerican-style cities. A normal day in the life of a Predator when he / she is not hunting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZSq8YJeWDg
This summer -
T H E
P R E D A T O R
GOES TO THE SHOPS
I suspect when the Predator goes out to buy his underwear, it's not much different from Indiana Jones / Lara Croft adventures.
(https://s2.gifyu.com/images/AnxiousPhonyArcticfox-small.gif)
(https://s2.gifyu.com/images/giphy4625b5cc79be2f05.gif)
And just imagining what a Predator marriage involves gives me goosebumps :-X
The Predator doesn't have to go out. He has amazon prime.
Quote from: Trash Queen on Feb 02, 2021, 10:15:44 AM
That's alright I can find a way to avoid this fate by distracting him... or just hide for a time. My pov:
Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/UWLuvjU.gif?noredirect)
Now you need one with Stompy rushing the player while brandishing an AvPR dvd.
Truly terrifying.
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 02, 2021, 06:28:20 AM
Is egg-barfing as much of an insult to Alien's lore as harvesting autism to Predator's ?
Not when you take in account the
Voodoo Magic Egg Barfing Theory!
Yeah, then it's an insult to Aliens and Predators.
So, egg-barfing is an insult to Alien AND Predator too while harvesting autism is an insult ONLY to Predator ? I think we have a winner ! ;D
Not in the Church of Voodoo!
Heavy is the head that wears the crown..
(https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-01-2015/TueWjm.gif)
The only remotely good thing to come from that scene's my friend getting off to it.
Quote from: Trash Queen on Feb 04, 2021, 01:20:04 PM
The only remotely good thing to come from that scene's my friend getting off to it.
Umm... Ewww? :laugh:
Very ewww.
Wolf preparing to come to Earth was a good scene.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 04, 2021, 01:33:31 PM
Quote from: Trash Queen on Feb 04, 2021, 01:20:04 PM
The only remotely good thing to come from that scene's my friend getting off to it.
Umm... Ewww? :laugh:
An oral fixation of the third kind I guess ? ;D
I can think of at least four people who get hot and bothered by that, actually. And there's a lot more.
(https://i.gyazo.com/21743562fbca5e0a20a9eba909bd2dbb.png)
I can appreciate the battle scarred facial features, he looks like he's battled a Xeno or two:
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/95/22/7b/95227bb8b5f4f2e710c7eb193ead3a16.jpg)
God, you don't even realise what've you done posting that image, do you ? The Great Evil has been awoken
Also, what're these purple things all over his face ?
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 05, 2021, 01:14:55 PM
God, you don't even realise what've you done posting that image, do you ? The Great Evil has been awoken
Also, what're these purple things all over his face ?
Great evil? :laugh:
Even though I personally find Wolf's face quite vexing, I do too like battle scarred facial features on my Predators! 👍
I believe the purple is reflected lighting.
Quote from: AliceApocalypse on Feb 05, 2021, 12:57:07 PM
I can appreciate the battle scarred facial features, he looks like he's battled a Xeno or two:
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/95/22/7b/95227bb8b5f4f2e710c7eb193ead3a16.jpg)
He looks glazed, like a figure :laugh:
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 05, 2021, 01:33:03 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 05, 2021, 01:14:55 PM
God, you don't even realise what've you done posting that image, do you ? The Great Evil has been awoken
Also, what're these purple things all over his face ?
Great evil? :laugh:
What makes you think I was reffering to you ?
Here's a genuine compliment, Wolf's face works for me on the basis it's asymmetrical and meant to be f**ked.
Yeah I kinda always thought a similar thing, just to cope better with it.
Any compliment to the film's pure copium when it comes down to it or was when it used to be canon anyway.
I quite like the Predalien.
I liked it before it got ruined.
You have to cut the dreadlocks a little.
(https://i.imgur.com/DHDtyrT.jpg)
I like
I dig it!
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Feb 07, 2021, 06:03:56 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/DHDtyrT.jpg)
Thats really neat, I like the style too. Yours?
Quote from: StrangeShape on Apr 02, 2021, 01:08:19 AM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Feb 07, 2021, 06:03:56 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/DHDtyrT.jpg)
Thats really neat, I like the style too. Yours?
Yep, it's mine, and thank you.
I gotta watch this movie again.
So good.
With the help from some substances... Or raw ?
Unrated
A criminally underrated small town monster rampage film, and a tribute to the 80s funny punk movies.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Apr 02, 2021, 08:58:53 PM
A criminally underrated small town monster rampage film, and a tribute to the 80s funny punk movies.
I actually agree, although it needs more Trash
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/32e17ed08162ab1a5f84d58538597d23/tumblr_oxw9kc0GHh1s1v3r1o3_400.gifv)
(https://connectingdirectors.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/3172980048_46c7cf6f6b_z.jpg)
Naturally.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Apr 02, 2021, 09:03:29 PM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Apr 02, 2021, 08:58:53 PM
A criminally underrated small town monster rampage film, and a tribute to the 80s funny punk movies.
I actually agree, although it needs more Trash
https://64.media.tumblr.com/32e17ed08162ab1a5f84d58538597d23/tumblr_oxw9kc0GHh1s1v3r1o3_400.gifv
Maybe the Strauses should release an edit with a 80's color palette.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Apr 02, 2021, 08:58:53 PM
A criminally underrated small town monster rampage film, and a tribute to the 80s funny punk movies.
We agree again. We're on a roll!
(https://media.tenor.com/images/fbf32a581ac74e01e8836704e856df1a/tenor.gif)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 03, 2021, 12:50:18 AM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Apr 02, 2021, 08:58:53 PM
A criminally underrated small town monster rampage film, and a tribute to the 80s funny punk movies.
We agree again. We're on a roll!
https://media.tenor.com/images/fbf32a581ac74e01e8836704e856df1a/tenor.gif
Wow! you successfully subverted my expectations, but in a cool way :laugh:
I loved the posters.
(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/ed/61/aa/ed61aa098c62d98b1e8aca425e4a3673.jpg)
Would be nice if in some weird way, GVK would inspire disney to pit these monsters against each other again.
Quote from: Trash Queen on Apr 03, 2021, 01:15:00 PM
I loved the posters.
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/ed/61/aa/ed61aa098c62d98b1e8aca425e4a3673.jpg
I can't get past the overbite.
Far from good but it's the best that design can look.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 04, 2021, 02:28:58 AM
Quote from: Trash Queen on Apr 03, 2021, 01:15:00 PM
I loved the posters.
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/ed/61/aa/ed61aa098c62d98b1e8aca425e4a3673.jpg
I can't get past the overbite.
Yeah, it really does get me in the side shots. Aside from the overbite, I do actually quite like the design. I think the Res body looks great in black, but whenever I see that overbite...*shudders*
Actually watched AvPR Unrated again yesterday and again really had a good time with it. :) It's amazing to me the degree that is lost in the theatrical cut. Even losing the brief subtle glance of mistrust Kelly gives Dallas at the diner, to do it again when Dallas arms himself, is substantial imo.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 04, 2021, 09:50:01 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 04, 2021, 02:28:58 AM
Quote from: Trash Queen on Apr 03, 2021, 01:15:00 PM
I loved the posters.
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/ed/61/aa/ed61aa098c62d98b1e8aca425e4a3673.jpg
I can't get past the overbite.
Yeah, it really does get me in the side shots. Aside from the overbite, I do actually quite like the design. I think the Res body looks great in black, but whenever I see that overbite...*shudders*
I'll take any dodgy composite in Alien 3 over every Alien scene in AvPR.
I like the ridge designs in of themselves but it's just awful as a design altogether.
I love AVP R. For me it got the Predator vision correct.
Quote from: Trash Queen on Apr 04, 2021, 01:50:34 PM
I like the ridge designs in of themselves but it's just awful as a design altogether.
The ridges looked almost as bad as the overbite. Made nice shapes under the dome in Alien 3. Look rubbish sans dome.
That's why I made sure to correctly emphasise I mean in isolation.
(https://monsterlegacy.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/avprpredalienmaquette.jpg)
It looks much more reasonable without tits and pigtails. Those human teeth in my Predalien mouth are pissing my off though.
To be fair though, it's always stayed humanoid, even when it comes from an animal without them it's got hands and feet for example.
But I do agree the facial structure being closer to a Predator I might indeed prefer.
It's one of the few things I genuinely like on the Aliens Versus Predator Monolith design.
The drum beat from Silvestri.
The score of Tyler.
Quote from: Yautja888 on May 23, 2021, 08:36:39 PM
The drum beat from Silvestri.
The score of Tyler.
I actually don't hate the "greatest hits" style soundtrack.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 04, 2021, 09:50:01 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 04, 2021, 02:28:58 AM
Quote from: Trash Queen on Apr 03, 2021, 01:15:00 PM
I loved the posters.
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/ed/61/aa/ed61aa098c62d98b1e8aca425e4a3673.jpg
I can't get past the overbite.
Yeah, it really does get me in the side shots. Aside from the overbite, I do actually quite like the design. I think the Res body looks great in black, but whenever I see that overbite...*shudders*
The rib cage looks okay. I can't get past the fleshy shoulders, giant neck and huge hands; they all contribute to make any on screen scene to look fake as hell.
I wonder if they could have reused the Alien 3 moulds? Shove some tubes on the back of the costume. Far more aesthetically pleasing.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on May 23, 2021, 10:40:09 PM
Quote from: Yautja888 on May 23, 2021, 08:36:39 PM
The drum beat from Silvestri.
The score of Tyler.
I actually don't hate the "greatest hits" style soundtrack.
I always liked Tyler's score. And some cool original pieces in there too.
The only stuff I can remember that wasn't from the previous movies is from Holst's Mars.
Quote from: SiL on May 24, 2021, 10:00:46 AM
The only stuff I can remember that wasn't from the previous movies is from Holst's Mars.
I can't recall anything original from it either. But it's a good time when throwing some dice and moving little resin predators/marines/aliens around a table, I can assure everyone. Chuck in the AvP 99 stuff for extra juice.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 24, 2021, 09:55:59 AM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on May 23, 2021, 10:40:09 PM
Quote from: Yautja888 on May 23, 2021, 08:36:39 PM
The drum beat from Silvestri.
The score of Tyler.
I actually don't hate the "greatest hits" style soundtrack.
I always liked Tyler's score. And some cool original pieces in there too.
Thirded!
I thought the soundtrack only worked when it was pulling from the originals. I still enjoy the opening of the un-rated with the Predator ships and the hybrid. The hybrid's design was solid but could have used another pass and setting.
As solid as liquid.
Maybe it's like ice.
Solid like ice!
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/32/b1/c8/32b1c82a087cd01cd3a20e9321f60545.jpg)
I actually agree :laugh: I mean, I like that design, especially the chestburster. Sure there are better alternatives, but it wasn't as bad as the warriors. 😆👀🤘
Actually it's more like a gas, methane specifically.
More methane than F&S and The Predator combined?
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on May 24, 2021, 07:34:22 PM
I actually agree :laugh: I mean, I like that design, especially the chestburster. Sure there are better alternatives, but it wasn't as bad as the warriors. 😆👀🤘
True. It was much worse.
Quote from: SM on May 25, 2021, 12:55:27 AM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on May 24, 2021, 07:34:22 PM
I actually agree :laugh: I mean, I like that design, especially the chestburster. Sure there are better alternatives, but it wasn't as bad as the warriors. 😆👀🤘
True. It was much worse.
How could the design have been improved?
Ditch the pecs.
If they must keep the dreads, sweep them out the back to either make it look like an Alien head, or crown (don't just have them hanging loose).
Make the mouth more like a normal Alien, but then have the mandibles flare open when it attacks or screams - as it is the mandibles looked tacked on.
Proper dorsal spines - and have four. If it's meant to be a nascent Queen, make them spikes like other Queens.
None of that will fix the acting choices though...
Quote from: SM on May 25, 2021, 01:32:38 AM
Ditch the pecs.
I actually agree with that. 8)
Quote from: SM on May 25, 2021, 01:32:38 AM
If they must keep the dreads, sweep them out the back to either make it look like an Alien head, or crown (don't just have them hanging loose).
Kinda like...
(https://i.ibb.co/K52ffKW/10200123-removebg-preview-1.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/yXGNhVp/10200123a4-m-removebg-preview.png)
Quote from: SM on May 25, 2021, 01:32:38 AM
Make the mouth more like a normal Alien, but then have the mandibles flare open when it attacks or screams - as it is the mandibles looked tacked on.
Proper dorsal spines - and have four. If it's meant to be a nascent Queen, make them spikes like other Queens.
None of that will fix the acting choices though...
Oh I never read any of these arguments :o Makes sense given that she is supposed to be a queen 🤔
Quote from: SM on May 25, 2021, 01:32:38 AM
None of that will fix the acting choices though...
Definitely :laugh:
I had a proper listen to the soundtrack and there's some good stuff - though I'd hesitate to call any of it original. Track 10 (Kelly Returns Home) doesn't immediately remind me of anything, but everything else has it's roots in Aliens, Alien 3 and to a lesser extent, Resurrection. There's probably about half a dozen tracks that directly lift bits from Horner's work on Aliens.
Not a great deal of Predator influence although the title track is essentially Predator meets Mars - Bringer of War.
The music that plays when Dallas and Morales get the call to visit the power plant is adapted from the music plays during Billy's last stand
I don't remember anything about the music. Maybe I'll watch the movie one of these days.
Those are some good ideas Jonesy about the dreads, sweep em back. They needed another pass on the design for sure. Chet was the only creature I liked visually in the film. How bout the lawsuit, we heating up, who's got the popcorn? Who's talking bets?
The music is alright.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on May 25, 2021, 02:36:49 AM
Quote from: SM on May 25, 2021, 01:32:38 AM
Ditch the pecs.
I actually agree with that. 8)
Quote from: SM on May 25, 2021, 01:32:38 AM
If they must keep the dreads, sweep them out the back to either make it look like an Alien head, or crown (don't just have them hanging loose).
Kinda like...
https://i.ibb.co/K52ffKW/10200123-removebg-preview-1.png
https://i.ibb.co/yXGNhVp/10200123a4-m-removebg-preview.png
Quote from: SM on May 25, 2021, 01:32:38 AM
Make the mouth more like a normal Alien, but then have the mandibles flare open when it attacks or screams - as it is the mandibles looked tacked on.
Proper dorsal spines - and have four. If it's meant to be a nascent Queen, make them spikes like other Queens.
None of that will fix the acting choices though...
Oh I never read any of these arguments :o Makes sense given that she is supposed to be a queen 🤔
Quote from: SM on May 25, 2021, 01:32:38 AM
None of that will fix the acting choices though...
Definitely :laugh:
SiL is a design I have a lot of time for but her dreads don't belong on a capital A Alien of any flavour.
I'm SiL sir, she's Sil.
:laugh:
Quote from: [cancerblack] on May 26, 2021, 08:56:20 PM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on May 25, 2021, 02:36:49 AM
Quote from: SM on May 25, 2021, 01:32:38 AM
Ditch the pecs.
I actually agree with that. 8)
Quote from: SM on May 25, 2021, 01:32:38 AM
If they must keep the dreads, sweep them out the back to either make it look like an Alien head, or crown (don't just have them hanging loose).
Kinda like...
https://i.ibb.co/K52ffKW/10200123-removebg-preview-1.png
https://i.ibb.co/yXGNhVp/10200123a4-m-removebg-preview.png
Quote from: SM on May 25, 2021, 01:32:38 AM
Make the mouth more like a normal Alien, but then have the mandibles flare open when it attacks or screams - as it is the mandibles looked tacked on.
Proper dorsal spines - and have four. If it's meant to be a nascent Queen, make them spikes like other Queens.
None of that will fix the acting choices though...
Oh I never read any of these arguments :o Makes sense given that she is supposed to be a queen 🤔
Quote from: SM on May 25, 2021, 01:32:38 AM
None of that will fix the acting choices though...
Definitely :laugh:
SiL is a design I have a lot of time for but her dreads don't belong on a capital A Alien of any flavour.
Actually, I find your dreadlocks free design to be superior to the Requiem Predalien. 🖤 8)
Quote from: SiL on May 26, 2021, 09:04:20 PM
I'm SiL sir, she's Sil.
Was it not spelled that with the capital L in the film? I could have sworn it was like that on the successful egg sample.
S1L... I believe.
I like that it is set on Earth and several civilians are killed. I think that's all I liked.
Quote from: BishopWantsIt on May 31, 2021, 08:15:19 PM
I like that it is set on Earth and several civilians are killed. I think that's all I liked.
D@mn civvies. They're always surviving sh*t.
Quote from: SM on May 25, 2021, 01:32:38 AM
If it's meant to be a nascent Queen, make them spikes like other Queens.
I dont really believe it really was suppose to be. Wasnt Predalien originally suppose to inherit eggbarfing from Predators? And didnt the Queen stuff come much later when the first criticism towards reproducting Predalien hit? Not to mention plenty of other stuff, like that the alien life cycle is very fast, and those are suppose to even be accelerated - yet Predalien grows fast on the spaceship and then stays the exact same way for days. Its because it was already in its full form. That plus his chestburster was a regular burster. And more stuff like that
The head was designed to resemble a Queen's crown. The origin of egg barfing itself changed.
That the one with the particularly creepy chef?
Who the Brothers wanted to be Bill Paxton.
One of the funniest parts of your commentary.
Quote from: StrangeShape on Jun 04, 2021, 12:49:21 AM
yet Predalien grows fast on the spaceship and then stays the exact same way for days. Its because it was already in its full form. That plus his chestburster was a regular burster. And more stuff like that
I think it's head does get bigger in the final scene, but I could be mistaken.
Well I always liked Ian Whyte's portrayal as the Wolf. Graceful and elegant. Closest to Kevin Peter Hall we will ever get.
I also like all the creatures and how slimey they look, I know the designs aren't anyone's favorites (cept me), but to me I felt like they were done well, they felt alive.
Wolf's weapons too, gotta love that whip, power punch gauntlet.
Oh and one more thing...
Spoiler
predalien dreadlocks :-*
Quote from: The Shuriken on Jun 04, 2021, 11:06:22 PM
Well I always liked Ian Whyte's portrayal as the Wolf. Graceful and elegant. Closest to Kevin Peter Hall we will ever get.
My thoughts exactly!
I agree too. The best thing in the whole movie.
I think Brian A Prince outdid him personally.
I think he did really good also, and I wouldn't have been opposed to him returning.
As I'm watching this, enjoying all the goodies to be found the Predator ship, I'm thinking they really need to turn this streaming version with corrected color grading into a physical release!
Looks exactly the same as my asia pacific region DVD.
Idk, I guess score was OK
I liked the ending credits
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 09, 2018, 05:55:36 PM
And I don't mean something snarky like "I liked when it was over".
:P
I thought of you, Voodoo, when Iread that post
But do you dream of Voodoo?
In hindsight, I liked that a bunch of people left the theatre.
Quote from: Crazy Rich on Aug 15, 2021, 06:09:50 PM
In hindsight, I liked that a bunch of people left the theatre.
How could you have known? It's AVPR in a dark room.
Quote from: Huggs on Aug 15, 2021, 06:11:51 PM
Quote from: Crazy Rich on Aug 15, 2021, 06:09:50 PM
In hindsight, I liked that a bunch of people left the theatre.
How could you have known? It's AVPR in a dark room.
I liked having a scared girl on each arm in the theater.
I like them somewhere else.
That was a few hours later when they'd shifted from scared to horny.
If one gets fear boners, I suppose AVPR would come in handy.
I can confirm that nobody got fear boners, that might have been confusing for me at the time.
"Don't look, it'll only make it worse"
Crabator awareness.
I always thought the duel plasma cannons was a genius idea. The design of Wolf as a whole is just amazing. A 4K color correction for this film would do so much justice for this predator design.
Quote from: chopperXgill on Nov 26, 2021, 05:10:00 AM
I always thought the duel plasma cannons was a genius idea.
Yeah, when Wolf slapped on the second plasma caster after he found his buds dead, it just conveyed an air and attitude of...
I ain't f*cking around now!(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F37.media.tumblr.com%2F5975cbaf9a7578e16143e30ed0dd967c%2Ftumblr_n7mz9j1jh41rp0vkjo1_500.gif&hash=eb6f8897d76d97971c6608907bf5ec504542e373)
Can't argue with the dual casters. I always thought that was wicked. Was also nice to see a Predator pistol on the big screen, even if it was only just a field converted shoulder cannon. I dug the look of that. Would love a replica of that.
I can appreciate the design but Predpistol isn't my jam. I don't like when Predators' weaponry begins to resemble generic commonplace Earth weaponry too much. For the same reason I don't like the idea of Predator using a sword-like weapon. Predator gun's place is on his shoulder, he can control it giving mental commands, that's what makes it cool and unique, he should never just hold it in his hands.
IMO
I'm not fond of predator pistol also, but I love things like swords, or in AVPR's case, the f**king whip ! That thing was amazing !
Oh yeah, whip rocks !
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Nov 27, 2021, 02:40:27 PM
I'm not fond of predator pistol also, but I love things like swords, or in AVPR's case, the f**king whip ! That thing was amazing !
Indeed, the whip is just fantastic!
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ShrillLightDuckling-small.gif)
Quote from: Kradan on Nov 27, 2021, 03:08:32 PM
Oh yeah, whip rocks !
But like the pistol and the sword, the whip also resembles generic commonplace Earth weaponry.
You should instead be worshipping the smart-disc!
Can you slice your enemy in half with Earth whip ? That gives it extra extraterrestrial flavour for me. And what do you see more often in sci-fi: futuristic renditions of hand-held guns and swords or whips ? I wouldn't call whip a generic weapon necessarily
I would worship smart-disc, but we got much cooler IMO design in AvP 2004 :P
(https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/uploads/default/original/2X/c/c8f8c43fd870c601153927f819bccf7e2605a1f8.gif)
Also, did Wolf use the whip anywhere before rooftop fight in AvPR ? I can't remember
It's first used in the sporting store.
Quote from: Kradan on Nov 28, 2021, 02:19:44 PM
Can you slice your enemy in half with Earth whip ? That gives it extra extraterrestrial flavour for me.
From the combistick spear, to the netgun, to the bow in Hunting Grounds, most of the Predator weaponry seem to be amped up in comparison to its human equivalent. And to me personally, the whip definitely feels less extraterrestrial than the combistick spear for instance, but regardless, I love them all.
Well, I guess it's just a taste thing then. I like combistick and netgun. Bow ? No, thanks
Spear.
Gun.
AvP 2 style speargun would be great.
Quote from: SiL on Nov 30, 2021, 03:18:10 AM
AvP 2 style speargun would be great.
With the telescoping activation. Yes, please. I love the telescoping.
Gimme back some more smart disc anytime, please !
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Dec 06, 2021, 03:22:25 PM
Gimme back some more smart disc anytime, please !
And from the POV of the disc!!!
(https://i.ibb.co/WybjB4T/b100bb95f49f40409e44b36e9c4660ee.gif)
That could actually be a great movie shot !
Yeah, I'd love if Dan Trachtenberg was inspired by this disc pov aspect in Hunting Grounds and incorporated it into his film.
It happened once with The Incredible Hulk, so ya never know!
I think AVPR was entertaining as an action film, bringing back old favorites from Alien and Predator. It certainly wasn't high concept sci-fi or any kind of elevated material. I wasn't bothered by the fact that one of the protagonists is a pizza boy. I also like the strong female lead Reiko Aylesworth.
I liked Wolf's mask and Jesse's underwear
Wolf's design and general concept were all good
Quote from: happypred on Jan 24, 2022, 02:55:41 PM
I liked Wolf's mask and Jesse's underwear
I just love this response. :laugh:
Perfect juxtaposition
Hear me out! Jesse only in her underwear, but wearing Wolf's mask?
I can imagine Wolf saying "oops" after Jesse is pinned to the wall.
I'd like to pin Jesse to a wall
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Jan 24, 2022, 10:08:05 PM
Hear me out! Jesse only in her underwear, but wearing Wolf's mask?
That some kinky shit
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Jan 24, 2022, 10:20:46 PM
I'd like to pin Jesse to a wall
Careful, you might tear her in half
To be fair, think it was actually a bikini bottom?
Anyway, Dale taught her every thing she knew, and he was a good teacher. Rest in Power, Dale.
One thing I loved about it is how they went back to the traditional slimmer build of the predator.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Jan 24, 2022, 10:08:05 PM
Hear me out! Jesse only in her underwear, but wearing Wolf's mask?
But then you're covering up Kristen Hager's face...unless that's your plan? I'm sure she'd be happy the know people find Wolf more attractive than her :o :laugh:
Maybe girls find Wolf more attractive ?
Quote from: Phobos on Jan 25, 2022, 05:16:31 AM
One thing I loved about it is how they went back to the traditional slimmer build of the predator.
Something the Strause Brothers stressed in pre-production!
The bulkiness mostly stemmed from the more complete breastplate design in AvP. Wolf has the traditional "scrap of metal on one titty" most preds wear.
But the AvP breastplate can't withstand xeno acid, unlike the shuriken, spear or ritual knife in the same movie. So this led me to believe that the pred elders were trolling their youths, like "Yes, real men must wear this thing that slows them down for +0.1 protection"
Can I love both Jesse and her underwear ?
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jan 25, 2022, 03:20:42 PM
Can I love both Jesse and her underwear ?
You can love Jesse, her underwear... and the movie!!!
(https://c.tenor.com/hNCgWw0rjCEAAAAC/caroline-cameron-sportsnet.gif)
no
Turn that AvP:R frown, upside down!
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9Tuy8_2ObAE/maxresdefault.jpg)
no
Quote from: happypred on Jan 25, 2022, 02:53:28 PM
The bulkiness mostly stemmed from the more complete breastplate design in AvP. Wolf has the traditional "scrap of metal on one titty" most preds wear.
But the AvP breastplate can't withstand xeno acid, unlike the shuriken, spear or ritual knife in the same movie. So this led me to believe that the pred elders were trolling their youths, like "Yes, real men must wear this thing that slows them down for +0.1 protection"
The inconsistency between what is and isn't acid proof drives me crazy sometimes. I can understand wanting to make things more difficult for the blooding rituals, but why the most basic weapon - the wristblades - wouldn't be made of that seems silly to me. That's supposed to be your fallback. That should be the one that is!
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 26, 2022, 12:48:01 PM
The inconsistency between what is and isn't acid proof drives me crazy sometimes. I can understand wanting to make things more difficult for the blooding rituals, but why the most basic weapon - the wristblades - wouldn't be made of that seems silly to me. That's supposed to be your fallback. That should be the one that is!
Yes, definitely.
If anything, the "last line of defense" weapon should've been acid-proof. And there was no need for such bulky armour encumbering the torso...if that armour offers almost no protection against the Alien's acid.
Think we all understand the concept of making the hunt more challenging (and using these rites of passage to teach respect for arguably the Alien's most potent defence, its acid blood), but you'd think the weapon of last resort wouldn't just dissolve after one strike.
Now...correct me if I'm wrong, but it's also odd that the Pred youths would've gotten their shoulder cannons at the start of their test
if the humans hadn't stolen them. Doesn't that kinda negate the manly "coming of age" aspect of a trial by fire? The idea is to risk one's life, to hunt lions with blades like the Masai...not pick up high-powered rifles and shoot them to death.
Quote from: happypred on Jan 30, 2022, 03:07:00 AM
Now...correct me if I'm wrong, but it's also odd that the Pred youths would've gotten their shoulder cannons at the start of their test if the humans hadn't stolen them. Doesn't that kinda negate the manly "coming of age" aspect of a trial by fire? The idea is to risk one's life, to hunt lions with blades like the Masai...not pick up high-powered rifles and shoot them to death.
They are raising Yautja younglings to be so soft these days. How are they going to grow up like Wolf and dominate Xenos with such coddling!
(https://i.ibb.co/Bsb0Qzp/20220112-092903-1-1-1.gif)
I do like that its a very different sequel. Its so unlike the first film in every way, which I really like for the most part, but I also think sequels should be fresh and this sure isnt a rehash. So the aspect, the idea of it being very different as far as tone, rating, setting, is something I do like
Quote from: StrangeShape on Feb 02, 2022, 02:48:02 AM
I do like that its a very different sequel. Its so unlike the first film in every way, which I really like for the most part, but I also think sequels should be fresh and this sure isnt a rehash. So the aspect, the idea of it being very different as far as tone, rating, setting, is something I do like
I totally agree, nothing is worse when a movie just lazily remakes the movie before it. I think with both alien & predator franchise, we have been lucky that each movie has at least attempted something fresh and new (for better or worse)
Quote from: StrangeShape on Feb 02, 2022, 02:48:02 AM
Its so unlike the first film in every way, which I really like for the most part, but I also think sequels should be fresh and this sure isnt a rehash.
Is it though ?
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9ddJyWLqbt4/hqdefault.jpg)
I mean, it may not be rehash of specifically the first AvP movie, but is it though ?
It is the most rehashy of them all, before Hollywood started massively capitalising on memberberries.
It was first of its kind then ? AvPR actually pioneered something ?
Also, memberberries. I love that word :D
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 18, 2022, 04:23:19 PM
Quote from: StrangeShape on Feb 02, 2022, 02:48:02 AM
Its so unlike the first film in every way, which I really like for the most part, but I also think sequels should be fresh and this sure isnt a rehash.
Is it though ?
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9ddJyWLqbt4/hqdefault.jpg
I mean, it may not be rehash of specifically the first AvP movie, but is it though ?
Yes, its basically Critters with aliens thrown in. But, speaking strictly from the standpoint of being an AVP sequel, it goes in a completely different direction and feel
That's true I guess.
In 1986, there was a badass alien bounty hunter coming to Earth to handle the Crites rampage
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Déjà vu from 2007
(https://i.ibb.co/YkWwGk5/Wolf-depredador-Vs-Alien-2-requiem.jpg)
Okay, back to things we actually liked:
I really like ADI Aliens' look with their domes removed:
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Quote from: Kradan on Feb 19, 2022, 04:36:59 PM
Okay, back to things we actually liked:
I actually like the B-movie vibe. Also the Predators home world design.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 20, 2022, 03:52:01 AM
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 19, 2022, 04:36:59 PM
Okay, back to things we actually liked:
I actually like the B-movie vibe. Also the Predators home world design.
Yes and Yaasssss!
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Also I liked the clock!
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Nah, you were staring at her butt. We all did
Wolf looked better on this movie than it does on Predator: Hunting Grounds.
He certainly did look.
I like how Wolf lost his cool and just fired aimlessly through the powerplant trying to kill the alien that smacked him around. Also his roar of frustration while everything was blowing up around him.
Jungle Hunter did a bit of that too!
He did, oh yeeeeeah. That was nice 4th of July of him
AvPR was certainly good at knowing how to take interesting scenes scenes from other movies.
Yeah, Jungle Hunter did it better.
Quote from: SiL on Mar 08, 2022, 08:39:35 PM
AvPR was certainly good at knowing how to take interesting scenes scenes from other movies.
It was like a homage simulator.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Mar 09, 2022, 03:36:25 AM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 08, 2022, 08:39:35 PM
AvPR was certainly good at knowing how to take interesting scenes scenes from other movies.
It was like a homage simulator.
Isn't that Predators? ;)
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Definitely the other way around. :P Wonder if I have the will to punish myself with watching AvP and AvPR again to count the instances of homages, against Predators. I last attempted that about a decade ago, and though I still have my original drafts, I think there's some I missed in all 3.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 09, 2022, 02:13:01 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/3oz8xLd9DJq2l2VFtu/giphy.gif
Definitely the other way around. :P Wonder if I have the will to punish myself with watching AvP and AvPR again to count the instances of homages, against Predators. I last attempted that about a decade ago, and though I still have my original drafts, I think there's some I missed in all 3.
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Well, there are reasons why AvP Requiem doesn't have the same reputation as Predators. When it's all pulling from the same single movie with the same musical beats in the same environment, we've witnessed that it feels like retreading or aping to a portion of the audience. :)
It's an erroneous reputation based on this misconception of it being a remake/repeat, but that's an entirely different argument. Just going off instances of repeated elements or story beats or simple homages, both AvP and AvPR had far more instances. On my original count it was like 13 or 14 for AvP/R (seperately) to Predators 7 or 8. Again, I could do with a proper recount if I feel like punishing myself, but that was also me adding some into Predators I think I missed.
But I also realize I'm deviating from the topic at hand here so let's get back to the intent of the topic, things we like about AvPR. I still f**king love the dual shoulder-cannons. I'd love to see them return in something. I don't think we've seen it anything other than the AvPR game?
Loved the dual shoulder-cannons as well. Would be great if they tracked targets independently, when needed.
I liked finding it in a bargain bin at age 10 and having no idea it existed beforehand.
On a related note, I remember as small kid seeing cover for the first AvP movie (the one with two heads on a white backdrop) in stores and thinking it was the coolest looking thing ever :D
I have watched it on the original Blu-ray, Unrated Blu-ray, North American and European but I'm happy to report a correctly graded version does exist and it's sadly none of the above. The Disney+ version actually looks alright in terms of visibility.
Apologies for the mobile quality images.
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Told you! You can actually see Chet moulting.
Cool! I'll give that a watch some point soon then!
Where's that Voodoo Magic when you actually compliment AVP Requiem?
Where's he in general ?
I'm still here, just part time here. :)
May 22, 2022, 09:26:23 AMQuote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 29, 2022, 03:09:12 AM
I have watched it on the original Blu-ray, Unrated Blu-ray, North American and European but I'm happy to report a correctly graded version does exist and it's sadly none of the above. The Disney+ version actually looks alright in terms of visibility.
Apologies for the mobile quality images.
Yep! I think it was SiL who was one of the first to notice a better visibility on Star when it came to AVPR. Subsequently, there was one or two comparison videos made I believe. JoBlo released some clips too.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 29, 2022, 08:52:36 PM
Where's that Voodoo Magic when you actually compliment AVP Requiem?
Where's the compliment? Is this the compliment?
"The Disney+ version actually looks alright in terms of visibility."Ah, hell, I'll take it!!! ;D
Edit:Here is the original thread! :)
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=64779.0
I quickly scanned through it, when it came out on Disney's streaming service, here in the UK, a few weeks ago and honestly can't detect much, if any, difference to my DVD version.
EDIT: Seems Ridgetop found a video comparison and it concurs with what I had viewed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rHzAzrk9ZA
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Mar 30, 2022, 04:45:15 PM
EDIT: Seems Ridgetop found a video comparison and it concurs with what I had viewed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rHzAzrk9ZA
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My unrated Blu-ray, played on my 4k television, with my Blu-ray player, wins.
Good for you, I guess
I can't say for sure what's going on, but on my 4K TV in the UK, on my Series X- it looks better than anything posted in here.
Quote from: Kradan on Mar 30, 2022, 05:12:29 PM
Good for you, I guess
Actually, I'm hoping one day there will be a properly color graded AvPR home video release. Then we all can win!
(https://i.ibb.co/g9zLc2X/AVPR-Aliens-vs-Predator-Requiem-2007-5.jpg)
I swear to God, AvPR supporters are the worst
Spoiler
:D
Someday maybe.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 29, 2022, 03:09:12 AM
I have watched it on the original Blu-ray, Unrated Blu-ray, North American and European
well that's some endurance
Oh you know why.
Spoiler
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Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 31, 2022, 08:10:48 AM
Oh you know why.
Spoiler
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HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE
Endurance heh
The only thing I liked about AVPR was that the filmmakers were considerate enough to make the cinematography dark enough that the viewer was spared from having to watch the terrible movie itself.
You could have just not posted.
He's our edgelord
I am in the minority who liked Requiem more than AVP1.
One pf the scenes I love is Wolf sitting in his chair on the Yautja home-world and that we get to see parts of the Predator world. Granted they look very Klingon in some of the designs, but all great designs borrow from other designs.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Apr 01, 2022, 03:08:24 AM
He's our edgelord
Not liking
Aliens vs Predator: Requiem is edgelord behaviour?! I've heard it all now. :laugh:
In a thread that's specifically for liking Requiem, yes, it is
Quote from: Kradan on Apr 01, 2022, 06:12:26 PM
In a thread that's specifically for liking Requiem, yes, it is
Sorry, I didn't mean to ruffle any feathers. I'll leave you all to it.
These JoBlo clips definitely seem to be from a brighter cut:
Some in the comments are saying they don't remember it being this bright.
Comparing the clip, which was posted last year, around the time when this first started streaming on international D+, to our own Blu-Ray captures:
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And compared to the trailer, which I'd say has the best color grading still...
JoBlo Clip(https://i.imgur.com/HbNqCQU.jpg)
Blu-Ray capture from our gallery(https://i.imgur.com/RcaShX9.jpg)
Trailer(https://i.imgur.com/UesaY9t.jpg)
That top one's much closer to what I'm seeing on Disney+ tbh
*sigh* That sweet color graded trailer.
I believe only a new AvP film could trigger a remastered 4K release with better color grading. Maybe one day.
Does anyone know if the Unrated edition has better lightning? I recall watching it on my phone and seeing everything well.
Another thing I like about AVPR is the return of the Aliens shrieks and death cries. I prefer that pitch to the Alien Covenant ones when the claw crushed the Xeno and the Truck impales it.
Performance seems to depend on one's television and blu-ray player. Unfortunately it's a crap shoot.
That top image what you're seeing?
AvPRequiem: Baffling people since 2007
@Voodoo Magic
I'll have to use Yautja tech to enhance my digital copy then.
Another thing I like about AVPR is the facehuggers lose in the Forest and them going after the hunter and the boy. The rustling of bush leaves was terrifying.
Quote from: Kradan on Apr 01, 2022, 08:29:20 PM
AvPRequiem: Baffling people since 2007
Not even the latest Ridley Scott xeno-movies have achieved that :o yet ☝️
I also like the Xenos killing the Guardsmen, its a well done scene, with blood mingling with the rain to cover windshields. The scene makes me wonder if the Brothers Straus wanted to do Colonial Marines film with the Predators in the future, but what hindered them was The Predalien, they wanted to feature it and AVP1 set it up already, allowing them to piece together a easier script since its a sequel to the first film.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 01, 2022, 08:26:24 PM
That top image what you're seeing?
As soon as I dig my Blu-ray out (still packed due to moving) I'll check!
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 30, 2022, 04:57:31 PM
My unrated Blu-ray, played on my 4k television, with my Blu-ray player, wins.
https://youtu.be/-C_0V9lEJEw
That's certainly better than my home media version and what Disney in the UK is streaming.
tbh I like the Predalien look at this mean motha
(https://monsterlegacy.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/avprpredaliengreenscreech.jpg)
It's garbage, and now that Voodoo's not here, it has not one redeeming quality.
Voodoo not being here doesn't mean the topic has suddenly changed.
I think there's some reverse psychology going on, I think she's actually trying to pull him back in
I hate that movie more than the life itself, especially when some fans try to elevate it over The Predator, but it has some nice moments: Wolf's design and manneurisms, score, Predator POV scenes, sheriff I-forgot-his-name, final hustle between Wolf and Chet aaaaaand that's all I can think of from the top of my head
Quote from: Omegamorph on Jun 27, 2022, 01:40:46 AMtbh I like the Predalien look at this mean motha
https://monsterlegacy.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/avprpredaliengreenscreech.jpg
It's BTS pic, right ? Lighting makes me assume it's moment when Chet climbs out of the sewers into the streets
Quote from: Kradan on Jun 27, 2022, 07:05:47 AMI think there's some reverse psychology going on, I think she's actually trying to pull him back in
Couldn't be that... nooooooooo... 8)
Quote from: SiL on Jun 27, 2022, 06:38:08 AMVoodoo not being here doesn't mean the topic has suddenly changed.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 31, 2022, 08:10:48 AMOh you know why.
Spoiler
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Okay, one redeeming quality! ;D
For my friends who... like that.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Jun 27, 2022, 06:07:01 AMIt's garbage, and now that Voodoo's not here, it has not one redeeming quality.
wow I'm guessing you skipped the thread title here
Quote from: Kradan on Jun 27, 2022, 07:05:47 AMIt's BTS pic, right ? Lighting makes me assume it's moment when Chet climbs out of the sewers into the streets
It's a greenscreen shot (hence the background). You're likely right because the Predalien is only lit like that in the sewer bursting scene. Could be shot footage that wasn't used.
Quote from: Kradan on Jun 27, 2022, 07:05:47 AMIt's BTS pic, right ? Lighting makes me assume it's moment when Chet climbs out of the sewers into the streets
That's it. The suit wasn't ready when they started filming, so basically every shot of it on location -- the street, the diner -- was shot on a green screen and composited.
Quote from: Omegamorph on Jun 27, 2022, 08:14:46 AMQuote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Jun 27, 2022, 06:07:01 AMIt's garbage, and now that Voodoo's not here, it has not one redeeming quality.
wow I'm guessing you skipped the thread title here
I didn't.
Quote from: SiL on Jun 27, 2022, 08:18:09 AMQuote from: Kradan on Jun 27, 2022, 07:05:47 AMIt's BTS pic, right ? Lighting makes me assume it's moment when Chet climbs out of the sewers into the streets
That's it. The suit wasn't ready when they started filming, so basically every shot of it on location -- the street, the diner -- was shot on a green screen and composited.
That's incredibly impressive I had no idea honestly.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Jun 27, 2022, 08:23:19 AMI didn't.
Then your comment was p much out of topic
we're not in the rec board mate
Quote from: SiL on Jun 27, 2022, 08:18:09 AMThat's it. The suit wasn't ready when they started filming, so basically every shot of it on location -- the street, the diner -- was shot on a green screen and composited.
Brilliant, my predalien article needs an overhaul...
I always appreciate ADI's work even if I don't like what's requested of them.
I still want to see that animatronic PredAlien.
But between Johnny Lewis, the Strauss Bros and Hydraulx, maybe I should just avoid this thread because trying to be positive about this film always leaves a really bad taste in my mouth.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Jun 27, 2022, 08:51:12 AMBut between Johnny Lewis, the Strauss Bros and Hydraulx, maybe I should just avoid this thread because trying to be positive about this film always leaves a really bad taste in my mouth.
a good idea indeed
if you scour through this section, there are plenty of threads to diss AvPR in
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Jun 27, 2022, 08:23:19 AMQuote from: SiL on Jun 27, 2022, 08:18:09 AMQuote from: Kradan on Jun 27, 2022, 07:05:47 AMIt's BTS pic, right ? Lighting makes me assume it's moment when Chet climbs out of the sewers into the streets
That's it. The suit wasn't ready when they started filming, so basically every shot of it on location -- the street, the diner -- was shot on a green screen and composited.
That's incredibly impressive I had no idea honestly.
Neither did I
Well that's something new I like, because it's so well done I had no idea honestly.
A lot has been said about masked Wolf being a great or at least very solid design, but the general concept of an elite cleaner or special operator among the Preds was a great idea as well...of course setting aside the flawed execution at the Aliens' expense
Here's some of my quick thoughts on what I like/love in AVP:R:
• The score
One must wonder how to follow up such great composers in the likes of Jerry Goldsmith, James Horner, Alan Silvestri and Elliot Goldenthal. Brian Tyler's score as great callbacks to both franchises while having it's own identity. It's fast paced and exciting at times and scary and haunting at others.
Favorite track: It's a tie between Decimation Proclamation and Requiem Epilogue.
• The setting
Since that famous tease in the Alien³ trailer, I've always wanted to see the aliens wreak havoc on earth. I've always felt that the events of the first AVP were a bit too isolated and I got my wish fulfilled with this one.
• The kills
AVP:R has some pretty nasty kills. From the acid face melting to the pregnant belly burster, Requiem has it all. Some call them tastless but I can't get enough.
• Wolf
Studio ADI really stepped things up with Wolf. Design wise, it's miles better than the Preds from AVP. Ian Whyte is the real MVP here. He absolutely nails the demeanor of the Predator.
btw
AvPR > Prometheus
AvPR > The Predator 2018
Quote from: Kradan on Jul 31, 2022, 09:15:08 AMQuote from: Omegamorph on Jul 31, 2022, 07:46:45 AMAvPR > Prometheus
Hell no ! Are you high or something ?
Kradan hated Omega because he told him the truth
despite the popular belief, I'm not as continually high as some funny pass-aggro people may think (not you, of course)
I wasn't serious, of course, but that's probably the first time I've heard something like this. Would you be kind enough to elaborate why you think so ?
Quote from: Kradan on Jul 31, 2022, 03:31:29 PMI wasn't serious, of course, but that's probably the first time I've heard something like this. Would you be kind enough to elaborate why you think so ?
Both are complete ass
but at least AvPR has that kitsch grindhouse vibe that in singular scenes is sometimes enjoyable. Prometheus similarly has enjoyable, isolated scenes, but commits a grand crime of the highest order (unlike AvPR who's simply just Critters but with Aliens and a Predator)
I used to hate AvP-R the most until The Predator came along, which isn't so much praise of AvP-R but rather how much The Predator lowered the bar even further.
Compared to Prometheus though I don't know, I hate AvP-R while Prometheus is just... there.
Dare I bring forward the hypothesis that AvP-R is actually more memorable because of it's infamy while Prometheus on the other hand is just forgettable?
Quote from: Omegamorph on Jul 31, 2022, 03:49:49 PMQuote from: Kradan on Jul 31, 2022, 03:31:29 PMI wasn't serious, of course, but that's probably the first time I've heard something like this. Would you be kind enough to elaborate why you think so ?
Both are complete ass
but at least AvPR has that kitsch grindhouse vibe that in singular scenes is sometimes enjoyable. Prometheus similarly has enjoyable, isolated scenes, but commits a grand crime of the highest order (unlike AvPR who's simply just Critters but with Aliens and a Predator)
What are the worst moments of these two movies for you ?
Quote from: Kradan on Jul 31, 2022, 04:13:42 PMWhat are the worst moments of these two movies for you ?
people are dying we need guns
it must feel like your god has abandoned you
Interesting ...
I liked the Wolf scenes of AVPR, his performance, and the fact that much of the movie was from his perspective.
Also liked his heat vision a lot. It was more advanced and clear then the other movies.
Also the moment where he touched the head of the deceased Predator and showed some respectful mourning was nice.
Quote from: shadowedge on Jul 31, 2022, 07:33:24 PMI liked the Wolf scenes of AVPR, his performance, and the fact that much of the movie was from his perspective.
Also liked his heat vision a lot. It was more advanced and clear then the other movies.
Also the moment where he touched the head of the deceased Predator and showed some respectful mourning was nice.
The crashed ship scene for one is unironically great and Ian Whyte's performance there is incredible
I can agree with that. I might even call it the best scene in the movie, yes unmasked Wolf included. Watching Predator quietly doing his job is so ... SATISFYING. Also, nice to see Predators mourn their dead
Quote from: shadowedge on Jul 31, 2022, 07:33:24 PMI liked the Wolf scenes of AVPR, his performance, and the fact that much of the movie was from his perspective.
Also liked his heat vision a lot. It was more advanced and clear then the other movies.
Also the moment where he touched the head of the deceased Predator and showed some respectful mourning was nice.
If they had cut out all of the humans-related bullshit and focused entirely on Wolf dealing with the Aliens problem AvPR could've been so much more enjoyable to watch
Quote from: Kradan on Aug 01, 2022, 07:30:04 AMI can agree with that. I might even call it the best scene in the movie,
no question
Quote from: Kradan on Aug 01, 2022, 07:30:04 AMIf they had cut out all of the humans-related bullshit and focused entirely on Wolf dealing with the Aliens problem AvPR could've been so much more enjoyable to watch
I completely agree, but they would have to expand his role then. A longer prologue on Yautja Prime where he ponders on his dead wife? And an alternate ending where he actually survives (like the PSP game ending)? And if you remove the darkness problem, you would have a classic already.
Quote from: Omegamorph on Jul 31, 2022, 07:46:45 AMbtw
AvPR > Prometheus
AvPR > The Predator 2018
Objectively - no, to both of those. Non-objectively, also no to both of those. :laugh:
Quote from: Omegamorph on Aug 01, 2022, 06:58:47 AMQuote from: shadowedge on Jul 31, 2022, 07:33:24 PMI liked the Wolf scenes of AVPR, his performance, and the fact that much of the movie was from his perspective.
Also liked his heat vision a lot. It was more advanced and clear then the other movies.
Also the moment where he touched the head of the deceased Predator and showed some respectful mourning was nice.
The crashed ship scene for one is unironically great and Ian Whyte's performance there is incredible
But more in line with the intent of this thread - I 100% agree there. Ian Whyte was simply fantastic in this film. Thought on how competent Wolf actually is aside, there are some great moments of character for him like this one.
Quote from: Kradan on Aug 01, 2022, 07:30:04 AMIf they had cut out all of the humans-related bullshit and focused entirely on Wolf dealing with the Aliens problem AvPR could've been so much more enjoyable to watch
I'm hoping they'll be brave enough to try something like this in this world of lower budget streaming releases. Just give me a fantastic animated film that is just the creatures (I'll accept human voice-overs like #0 of AvP) and let's see how it goes!
1 Million Years BC but with Aliens and Predators.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 01, 2022, 08:59:09 AMObjectively - no, to both of those. Non-objectively, also no to both of those. :laugh:
no such thing as objectivity in art says me
Quote from: SiL on Aug 01, 2022, 09:26:37 AM1 Million Years BC but with Aliens and Predators.
also accurate
Quote from: Omegamorph on Aug 01, 2022, 12:44:00 PMno such thing as objectivity in art says me
There's technicalities of film-making that I would say you can consider objective.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 01, 2022, 01:05:40 PMThere's technicalities of film-making that I would say you can consider objective.
depends
the very fact there are people who like AvPR (and aren't idiots) is interesting, perhaps the thing is not as stinky as I see it. There are things that people like in it
Last time I watched it was around 2014 and don't feel the need to do so again unless we do a podcast on it (this year is the 15th, after all)
Quote from: Omegamorph on Aug 01, 2022, 01:14:27 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 01, 2022, 01:05:40 PMThere's technicalities of film-making that I would say you can consider objective.
depends
the very fact there are people who like AvPR (and aren't idiots) is interesting, perhaps the thing is not as stinky as I see it. There are things that people like in it
Last time I watched it was around 2014 and don't feel the need to do so again unless we do a podcast on it (this year is the 15th, after all)
"There's no accounting for taste." But that's an entirely different argument and probably not one we should have in this thread.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 01, 2022, 01:17:30 PM"There's no accounting for taste." But that's an entirely different argument and probably not one we should have in this thread.
You can't stop me corporal
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*glances at all his admin & moderating controls*
Anyway! Back on topic folk :)
Loved Butch's performance. Had me interested in his character from the get. Even though his fate is unknown, I'm sure he ran out of the sewers and into the woods. Good boy, Butch!
I definitely think Spike's the best boy in both franchises so far, but Coco's about to steal that crown soon!
Quote from: Master Chief on Aug 03, 2022, 02:27:21 PMLoved Butch's performance. Had me interested in his character from the get. Even though his fate is unknown, I'm sure he ran out of the sewers and into the woods. Good boy, Butch!
Oh yeah, remember how he carried that hand ? That was Oscar-worthy performance, so believable
No human character could pull off carrying a severed arm in their mouth like Butch did.
Oh wait?! Yeah we had a dog in AVPR, why in hell didnt they movie makers use that to add the alien runner into the movie? We could had the predalien, warriors and 1 runner running around, we have ADI afterall involved. Thats a golden oppurtonity gone :O
Budgetary restrictions, that's why
Because it's AVP Requiem
Quote from: judge death on Aug 04, 2022, 05:49:10 PMOh wait?! Yeah we had a dog in AVPR, why in hell didnt they movie makers use that to add the alien runner into the movie? We could had the predalien, warriors and 1 runner running around, we have ADI afterall involved. Thats a golden oppurtonity gone :O
It was planned, but as
Kraden stated, no money, no
Butch being used to serve as host to give birth to a Runner.
I mean, if scene gives me a bonner, that's gotta be a positive, right ?
I find the AVP films to be oddly entertaining. I mean I am not gonna lie, both films are by no means "good" in the conventional sense. But as for whether it entertained me, it somehow did. And what's even more weird is that I kinda find AVPR to be more entertaining than AVP, even though its considered by most critics and fans as the absolute nadir of the Alien and Predator films.
AVPR, aka "Adventures of Pizza Boy"...yeah it has a stupid story set on Earth with characters I really could not care less about and with lighting that is so dark I could barely see what was going on most of the time. But the actual scenes of the "Wolf" predator going against the Aliens...I actually found it was kinda cool. I actually liked it.
AVP...yeah director Paul W.S Anderson has a notorious reputation in the world of gamers as a talentless hack who ruined their video games with awful movie adaptations. And who unlike the even more terrible Uwe Boll, somehow managed to remain in the good graces of Hollywood producers. But AVP...I found it actually had an interesting premise, with a hidden pyramid set in Antartica. The execution was the problem. Again, with human characters I want the alien and predators to kill off, stupid dialogue and idiotic plot about Alexa allying herself with the Scar Predator, I remember being in the audience and people were erupting with derisive laughter at that scene.
Yet...despite all those bad points, I still can't really hate AVP. I like the alien and predator designs in the film. I thought Scar Predator was a badas*. I enjoyed how Scar took out the Aliens with his shoulder cannon. The movie is a sort of guilty pleasure for me.
Quote from: Kradan on Aug 12, 2022, 09:59:56 AMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yASIi3he0EA
I mean, if scene gives me a bonner, that's gotta be a positive, right ?
It's a hard positive yeah.
And then Dale interrupts and is proud to say, "Just remember, Ricky. I taught this little slut everything she knows." smh
Ah Dale. What a great character.
Felt great when he got acid splashed all over his face
I mean, was he really too stupid to talk?
I actually liked a good portion of AVPR, Wolf is one of my favorite predators, the xenos looked pretty good, especially the heads, the action was epic, the use of never before seen Predator tech was a nice thing and my favorite part..seeing the Predator home world, that was awesome.
It's the worst they ever looked, AVP not far behind, for something positive though the best things that worked about Wolf survived into Feral.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Aug 14, 2022, 06:36:12 PMQuote from: (Bad Blood) on Aug 14, 2022, 04:43:19 AMthe xenos looked pretty good
Hard disagree.
I was being polite lol, To me even the worst Alien designs are better than most creature designs out there.
Fair enough, although the AvPR ones are pretty egregious. A fair bit of that is the acting paired with the design though. A pair of decidedly stubby/chubby Aliens forgetting they have limbs and tails while Wolf grips them and poses dramatically is genuinely laughable.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Aug 14, 2022, 09:54:52 PMFair enough, although the AvPR ones are pretty egregious. A fair bit of that is the acting paired with the design though. A pair of decidedly stubby/chubby Aliens forgetting they have limbs and tails while Wolf grips them and poses dramatically is genuinely laughable.
Agreed, I was thinking to myself, no retaliation from these aliens? He's holding them in his grip and no tail stabbing or clawing?
My guys please pay attention to what thread you're in.
I said I laughed, not rolled my eyes bitterly. I enjoyed the absurdity and stupidity of the moment.
And you were just singing the praises of the designs.
And snipped. Remember the intent of the thread please.
I also wanted to say I think that wolf was really well designed, the mask, the armor placement, the skin and muscle was really well done and the addition of the bone horn/spikes on the body was really awesome. I also loved that they brought in an idea on how Predators got rid of evidence, the use of the blue liquid that dissolves organic matter was really cool. Also the first time two plasma casters were used which I thought was super awesome. All In all I actually liked a lot of the films design.
I liked the opening sequence, particulary Wolf receiving the distress signal and preparing to depart. I also liked Wolf's arrival on Earth.
I liked it too ... well, at least, the unrated edition version. I liked that Wolf had to do some "investigation" and retrieve information from dead Pred's mask as opposed to theatrical versiin where he learned about the Predalien's presence right from the start
The Yautja/Pred whip was intriguing. I like the idea of using it to hook a Xeno like a fishingline and pulling them close for wristblades.
I like the dumb power glove.
I like the Yautj/ Pred ship crash.
Wolf's epic entrance into the hospital, because f**k opening doors. :laugh:
Is there not a gif of that around here somewhere?
There is a lot I liked. I liked the characters better than those of AvP who were just of the boring scientific kind. There was actually a bit of tension because the characters in requiem felt more real and vulnerable.
The idea of a predator arriving to clean up the mess was neat
the predalien impregnating the women was nasty
The film had more of a violent edge compared to avp
Promising setpieces (powerplant, hospital, army fight etc) with a nice variety ( but obviously awfully shot and dark)
Overall I think the idea had a lot of potential but it was probably a bit too expensive to pull it off hence the darkness and short and unclear fight scenes.
Fine with first 20 minutes, Pred ship scene.
I like the AVP pyramid idea, the queen alien being captive to breed the hunt, and the flashback scene and the predator ship.
AVPR I liked the opening and the warrior and wolf.
Something good about AvPR? Not the easiest of challenges... 😅
Ok, I liked that the reproductive cycle of the predalien differed. I sometimes feel that there is an overwhelming portion of the fandom that will not accept anything that deviates from what was seen in 'Aliens', rejecting eggmorphing etc. This of course is fuelled by years of expanded media (Dark Horse comics and games) which simply repeated what was seen in the second movie. But if you take what is seen in the movies as the only consideration for a moment, I feel there has *never* been one definitive 'cycle' - from eggmorphing in the first movie, the queen/hive system in the second, the introduction of a superfacehugger in Alien 3 etc... the whole appeal of the xeno to me, it's that it is alien. Once you have it all figured out, and give it a simple insectoid life cycle, it's much less alien, and a lot more animal. I like my Xenos to be unpredictable, and chaotic,and adapting in whatever means necessary to reproduce (which is why I enjoyed the concept of the pathogen introduced in Prometheus and seeing all the wonderful diverse organisms and mutations that can result from it).
So yeah, not a fan of AvPR, but I'll give them credit for trying something new with the xeno.