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Title: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: Valaquen on Mar 15, 2011, 03:24:12 AM
From a report on the new cast addition, JoBlo added:

QuoteBy the way, today we had someone give us a heads up to the fact that, in a foreign interview back in December, Ridley Scott admitted part of PROMETHEUS takes place a million years in the past...presumably showing the origin story of the space jockeys. Sounding cool to you or what?
http://www.joblo.com/arrow/index.php?id=27094 (http://www.joblo.com/arrow/index.php?id=27094)

No idea what this foreign interview was, I wish they'd link or hint, but nope, nadda. A pinch of salt for now, until someone picks up on the actual interview. Sounds very 2001, really.
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: Sharp Sticks on Mar 15, 2011, 03:25:59 AM
Coool.
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: The Ghoul on Mar 15, 2011, 04:05:19 AM
I wonder if this would mean that the pilot was indeed flossilized a million years ago.  :P


If its true of course. hahaha.
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: predxeno on Mar 15, 2011, 04:08:29 AM
Interesting.
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the p...
Post by: Valaquen on Mar 15, 2011, 04:47:35 AM
Remember there was a tweet a while back saying that Alien fans have been waiting to see the opening for the film for years? Perhaps the opening is the Jockey ship going down, then Prometheus takes off from there. Would be funny: the great Jockey ship mystery dealt with and set aside in the first few minutes.
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: BonesawT101 on Mar 15, 2011, 05:16:13 AM
http://www.blick.ch/unterhaltung/kino/robin-hood-gabs-wirklich-146589 (http://www.blick.ch/unterhaltung/kino/robin-hood-gabs-wirklich-146589) is this the story you are referring  to?
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: Valaquen on Mar 15, 2011, 05:24:53 AM
Quote from: BonesawT101 on Mar 15, 2011, 05:16:13 AM
http://www.blick.ch/unterhaltung/kino/robin-hood-gabs-wirklich-146589 (http://www.blick.ch/unterhaltung/kino/robin-hood-gabs-wirklich-146589) is this the story you are referring  to?

QuoteMuch are enough before. Scott orients itself at Erich von Däniken: "That guessed/advised correctly. Before millions of years it gave high-standing creatures here and elsewhere". It is a time, in which HR Gigers all monster does not exist yet. "I must create something new."
Could be, but JoBlo said the interview was in December, not last summer.
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the p...
Post by: Federick Gonsa on Mar 15, 2011, 07:13:15 AM
AVP flashback!  BOOM!!!
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the p...
Post by: Omegamorph on Mar 15, 2011, 01:11:29 PM
Jee, I can only pass over the thousands of possibilities right now.

Spoiler
LOVECRAFT-ED JOCKEYS.
[close]
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: P.B. on Mar 15, 2011, 01:57:10 PM
Bah Humbug... All this is starting to sound extra lame. Hope I'm wrong but I think Ridley lost his touch a long time ago.
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: dandan on Mar 15, 2011, 02:35:38 PM
 "I have to create something new."

Hmmm?

something new.. space jockeys? a new race we have not seen yet?

very very very interesting....

." It is a time when HR Giger's monster didn't exist. "

but this could also mean the jockeys right?! even though i could be wrong because we didnt see the jockey in action or anything only thing we saw/heard was in its ship and the weird sounds the crew heard on the nostromo before landing on LV-426.
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: Valaquen on Mar 15, 2011, 02:59:18 PM
Quote from: dandan on Mar 15, 2011, 02:35:38 PM
"I have to create something new."

Hmmm?

something new.. space jockeys? a new race we have not seen yet?

very very very interesting....

." It is a time when HR Giger's monster didn't exist. "

but this could also mean the jockeys right?! even though i could be wrong because we didnt see the jockey in action or anything only thing we saw/heard was in its ship and the weird sounds the crew heard on the nostromo before landing on LV-426.
He said in the Anthology booklet that there was something new besides the Alien and Space Jockey, and has said for a while that the Alien is being redesigned. Exciting, I think.
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: dandan on Mar 15, 2011, 03:38:40 PM
Quote from: Valaquen on Mar 15, 2011, 02:59:18 PM
Quote from: dandan on Mar 15, 2011, 02:35:38 PM
"I have to create something new."

Hmmm?

something new.. space jockeys? a new race we have not seen yet?

very very very interesting....

." It is a time when HR Giger's monster didn't exist. "

but this could also mean the jockeys right?! even though i could be wrong because we didnt see the jockey in action or anything only thing we saw/heard was in its ship and the weird sounds the crew heard on the nostromo before landing on LV-426.
He said in the Anthology booklet that there was something new besides the Alien and Space Jockey, and has said for a while that the Alien is being redesigned. Exciting, I think.
yes i personally cannot wait either a new species or the pure Alien instead of the xenomorph... also if this film makes success and everyone creates hype about new species he could then make other films with these aliens in to make more money so it is a very good idea....
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: BonesawT101 on Mar 15, 2011, 03:56:16 PM
with all the info we have so far it is pretty clear this film will be a massive epic on a truly grand scale. and we barely know anything!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: dandan on Mar 15, 2011, 04:41:24 PM
Quote from: BonesawT101 on Mar 15, 2011, 03:56:16 PM
with all the info we have so far it is pretty clear this film will be a massive epic on a truly grand scale. and we barely know anything!  :laugh:

lol ino this is going to be amazing i cannot stop dreaming or thinking about it ! :D  and he said this film with be big aswell so i guess we are not going to see a short film obviuosly because its a 6month shoot
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the p...
Post by: ScottishXeno on Mar 15, 2011, 06:19:53 PM
Nice :)
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: locusta on Mar 15, 2011, 06:26:36 PM
Scott speaks of Erich von Daniken: "He has guessed right. Millions of years ago, there were intelligent creatures everywhere." It is a time when HR Giger's monster didn't exist.
"I have to create something new."


If somebody got the AVP Making of DVD, listen closely to what Anderson says in the pre-production part....... :-\
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: Valaquen on Mar 15, 2011, 06:46:49 PM
Quote from: locusta on Mar 15, 2011, 06:26:36 PM
Scott speaks of Erich von Daniken: "He has guessed right. Millions of years ago, there were intelligent creatures everywhere." It is a time when HR Giger's monster didn't exist.
"I have to create something new."


If somebody got the AVP Making of DVD, listen closely to what Anderson says in the pre-production part....... :-\
I know, but Scott is doing 'gods and engineers of space', not interstellar fox hunts. I think Prometheus, if related, won't connect to AVP and its Von Daniken Predators.
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the p...
Post by: RakaiThwei on Mar 15, 2011, 07:00:17 PM
Quote from: Federick Gonsa on Mar 15, 2011, 07:13:15 AM
AVP flashback!  BOOM!!!

Funny you say that as a joke, because I've hypothesized to how Prometheus could fit in the AvP timeline..

Course, me saying this probably pissed people off.

-Rakai'Thwei
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: predxeno on Mar 15, 2011, 07:23:17 PM
Those people can stay in denial all they want if it makes their perception of the A/P/AVP universe better. :-\
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: RakaiThwei on Mar 15, 2011, 07:44:50 PM
Quote from: predxeno on Mar 15, 2011, 07:23:17 PM
Those people can stay in denial all they want if it makes their perception of the A/P/AVP universe better. :-\

Now I am not too certain but I've read somewhere that millions of years ago, before humanity was even around, that the Jockeys had seized control of Earth and were planning to use it as a Proteus planet of some sort. Now, I've read some of the EU, and looking up on some sites such as Xenopedia (I hate that wikia.. their info just seems... wrong in some places!) seems to also indicate that some EU material had in fact implemented this idea. And this idea also seemed to utilize the concept of a Proto-Xenomorph as well.

Of course, we're not certain if this information of Prometheus being set long in the past might happen but if it does..

-Rakai'Thwei
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: MrSpaceJockey on Mar 15, 2011, 08:08:40 PM
I'm going to assume the xenomorph might be the reason so many of the extraterrestrials were wiped out before our time
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: ThisBethesdaSea on Mar 15, 2011, 09:06:00 PM
AvP doesn't exist for Ridley Scott...I don't know how much clearer it has to be made.
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: dandan on Mar 15, 2011, 10:19:23 PM
heres something to think about prometheus it is meant to be set millions of years ago  and this could connect with the predators (i hope not because it could be another avp agen lol... ) aswell because if you look at there ships they collect skulls from beins or anything which was alive from years ago such dinosaurs like that triceratops skull from predator 2 i think it was.... just a fought anyway i could be wrong....
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: Highland on Mar 15, 2011, 11:17:30 PM
I think you gy's may be reading it wrong. I read it as 2 separate quotes. The first part is saying that Erich von Daniken came up with an original idea. The second part is Scott saying he has to do something similar.

There's no link there, he's just using Daniken's theory as an example. That's how I read it.

Either way the movie won't be shot "millions of years ago" unless it's in a galaxy "far, far away"  which would mean nothing to do with the Alien franchise.

Sure you could say the SJ is a million years old, but then your just creating a back story for your back story?
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 15, 2011, 11:18:46 PM
This could be awesome. Can't wait to see how it turns out! :D
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the p...
Post by: DaddyYautja on Mar 16, 2011, 12:16:57 AM
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Mar 15, 2011, 07:00:17 PM
Quote from: Federick Gonsa on Mar 15, 2011, 07:13:15 AM
AVP flashback!  BOOM!!!

Funny you say that as a joke, because I've hypothesized to how Prometheus could fit in the AvP timeline..

Course, me saying this probably pissed people off.

-Rakai'Thwei

pffft, i've been saying that for a while.
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the p...
Post by: dandan on Mar 16, 2011, 10:51:35 AM
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Mar 16, 2011, 12:16:57 AM
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Mar 15, 2011, 07:00:17 PM
Quote from: Federick Gonsa on Mar 15, 2011, 07:13:15 AM
AVP flashback!  BOOM!!!

Funny you say that as a joke, because I've hypothesized to how Prometheus could fit in the AvP timeline..

Course, me saying this probably pissed people off.

-Rakai'Thwei


pffft, i've been saying that for a while.
it could fit in the timeline to be honest because they are talking about millions of years? dont predators collect skulls from dinosaurs aswell as other alien beings? so if there got dinosaurs the predators must have been around for years but lets hope they dont inclube them in prometheus because it will be another avp agen and might spoil it...
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: Master on Mar 16, 2011, 11:10:05 AM
It`s impossible for Predators to be here for milions of years. Those dinosaur skull are

a) Fossils take cause they look cool.

b) Skulls of alien creatures that happened to look similar.

Also dinosaur skulls appear only in AvP-r which not entirely fits canon. Dinosaur skulls ther might be an easter egg just like Harryhausen`s Cyclop`s skull which is also dissplayed there.
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: dandan on Mar 16, 2011, 02:38:12 PM
Quote from: Master on Mar 16, 2011, 11:10:05 AM
It`s impossible for Predators to be here for milions of years. Those dinosaur skull are

a) Fossils take cause they look cool.

b) Skulls of alien creatures that happened to look similar.

Also dinosaur skulls appear only in AvP-r which not entirely fits canon. Dinosaur skulls ther might be an easter egg just like Harryhausen`s Cyclop`s skull which is also dissplayed there.
yeah it was just a fought id like to take out though...
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: ThisBethesdaSea on Mar 16, 2011, 04:41:58 PM
Jesus H.
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: Sharp Sticks on Mar 16, 2011, 10:32:49 PM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Mar 16, 2011, 04:41:58 PM
Jesus H.

Ooh, what are you thinking, like a cameo, maybe?
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: DaddyYautja on Mar 17, 2011, 03:36:28 AM
Quote from: Sharp Sticks on Mar 16, 2011, 10:32:49 PM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Mar 16, 2011, 04:41:58 PM
Jesus H.

Ooh, what are you thinking, like a cameo, maybe?

What about a scene with a Pilot/Jockey/whatever sending/testing some Xenos into the original Pred planet and they are at the cavemen stage with bone facemasks and they end up kicking the Xenos but. Which makes the Jocks develop the Xenos more.
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: SM on Mar 17, 2011, 03:47:36 AM
Yeah, but how does Jesus fit in?
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: Sharp Sticks on Mar 17, 2011, 03:56:36 AM
That's all I wanted to know.
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: Bad Replicant on Mar 17, 2011, 09:44:28 AM
Forget Jesus. We're talkin' Predators with bone masks here.


In 3-D, mind you.
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the p...
Post by: Valaquen on Mar 17, 2011, 09:49:00 AM
If anyone cameos I hope it's this guy

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1101.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg425%2Fmrmagoo6%2F2001-ape.jpg&hash=0f177e04cef132619a25e45b3e206b626f8f4065)
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: Keyes on Mar 17, 2011, 10:38:48 AM
"dun...dun....DUN DUNNNN!!!" ;D
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: Space Voyager on Mar 17, 2011, 11:10:29 AM
DUNdunDUNdunDUNdun...
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: predxeno on Mar 17, 2011, 11:30:13 AM
Quote from: SM on Mar 17, 2011, 03:47:36 AM
Yeah, but how does Jesus fit in?

Jesus could have been a jockey or some other alien that created the human race in his image.  That's why we worshipped him and "God", though I don't think many religious groups would be too enthused at having that idea in a movie. :-\
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: Valaquen on Mar 17, 2011, 11:48:11 AM
Quote from: predxeno on Mar 17, 2011, 11:30:13 AM
Jesus could have been a jockey or some other alien that created the human race in his image.  That's why we worshipped him and "God", though I don't think many religious groups would be too enthused at having that idea in a movie. :-\
Save some discontent for me!
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: predxeno on Mar 17, 2011, 12:00:10 PM
Hey, SM asked a question and I provided a possible answer.  I didn't mean to offend anyone.
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: Valaquen on Mar 17, 2011, 12:25:11 PM
Quote from: predxeno on Mar 17, 2011, 12:00:10 PM
Hey, SM asked a question and I provided a possible answer.  I didn't mean to offend anyone.
I'm not  8)
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the p...
Post by: Sharp Sticks on Mar 17, 2011, 01:31:42 PM
Quote from: Valaquen on Mar 17, 2011, 09:49:00 AM
If anyone cameos I hope it's this guy

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1101.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg425%2Fmrmagoo6%2F2001-ape.jpg&hash=0f177e04cef132619a25e45b3e206b626f8f4065)
But now he's got a weapon, so the Predator shoots him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdhhQhqi_AE# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdhhQhqi_AE#)

Quote from: predxeno on Mar 17, 2011, 11:30:13 AM
Jesus could have been a jockey or some other alien that created the human race in his image.  That's why we worshipped him and "God", though I don't think many religious groups would be too enthused at having that idea in a movie. :-\
We're all Space Jockeys!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdhhQhqi_AE# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdhhQhqi_AE#)
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: wmmvrrvrrmm on Mar 17, 2011, 02:54:44 PM
Quote from: Valaquen on Mar 15, 2011, 05:24:53 AM

Could be, but JoBlo said the interview was in December, not last summer.

Well, this the Blick interview link was given a couple of days ago at AlienExperience.com and it just so happens that Joblo picked up on it. Probably Joblo read the date on the Blick article which was 12.05.2010 as if it were written in the American way and not the European way.  So he would think it was the December 5th rather than 12th of May


So we also have a comparison to Back to the Future to think about!
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: Valaquen on Mar 17, 2011, 03:10:37 PM
Quote from: wmmvrrvrrmm on Mar 17, 2011, 02:54:44 PM
Quote from: Valaquen on Mar 15, 2011, 05:24:53 AM

Could be, but JoBlo said the interview was in December, not last summer.

Well, this the Blick interview link was given a couple of days ago at AlienExperience.com and it just so happens that Joblo picked up on it. Probably Joblo read the date on the Blick article which was 12.05.2010 as if it were written in the American way and not the European way.  So he would think it was the December 5th rather than 12th of May


So we also have a comparison to Back to the Future to think about!
Always on the ball, wmmvrrvrrmm  8)
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: DaddyYautja on Mar 18, 2011, 12:23:29 AM
Quote from: SM on Mar 17, 2011, 03:47:36 AM
Yeah, but how does Jesus fit in?

Predator Jesus?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg545.imageshack.us%2Fimg545%2F8499%2F2386760.jpg&hash=b28ceeca318ee038030dbda2ae1ebfda6ffa5a34)
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: MrSpaceJockey on Mar 18, 2011, 01:56:04 AM
Quote from: predxeno on Mar 17, 2011, 12:00:10 PM
Hey, SM asked a question and I provided a possible answer.  I didn't mean to offend anyone.

Rhetorical in the question and false seriousness in the discontentment.

Quote from: DaddyYautja on Mar 18, 2011, 12:23:29 AM
Quote from: SM on Mar 17, 2011, 03:47:36 AM
Yeah, but how does Jesus fit in?

Predator Jesus?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg545.imageshack.us%2Fimg545%2F8499%2F2386760.jpg&hash=b28ceeca318ee038030dbda2ae1ebfda6ffa5a34)

Well I was going for Zoidberg Jesus, but okay.
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: Psycho on Mar 19, 2011, 10:03:45 PM
thats freaking cool!
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the p...
Post by: Federick Gonsa on Mar 20, 2011, 06:24:31 AM
The whole million years into the future could be another mislead from fox. Perhaps they heard it and said "wow... That is so not our script... but hey, we can use this to mislead even more!"
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the p...
Post by: Valaquen on Mar 20, 2011, 08:10:09 AM
Quote from: Federick Gonsa on Mar 20, 2011, 06:24:31 AM
The whole million years into the future could be another mislead from fox. Perhaps they heard it and said "wow... That is so not our script... but hey, we can use this to mislead even more!"
All we have is speculation, I guess. I asked Diane O'Bannon about it via FB, here's what she told me:

Frankly, I have calls in to 20th about this new non-Alien Alien prequel, since they have contractual obligations to the writers if it is part of the Alien franchise. No one has gotten back to me. Perhaps it is so very secret, even their legal department doesn't know. I am thinking that soon perhaps my attorney will ask them.
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the p...
Post by: Wobblyboddle77 on Mar 20, 2011, 11:09:40 AM
Quote from: Valaquen on Mar 20, 2011, 08:10:09 AM
Quote from: Federick Gonsa on Mar 20, 2011, 06:24:31 AM
The whole million years into the future could be another mislead from fox. Perhaps they heard it and said "wow... That is so not our script... but hey, we can use this to mislead even more!"
All we have is speculation, I guess. I asked Diane O'Bannon about it via FB, here's what she told me:

Frankly, I have calls in to 20th about this new non-Alien Alien prequel, since they have contractual obligations to the writers if it is part of the Alien franchise. No one has gotten back to me. Perhaps it is so very secret, even their legal department doesn't know. I am thinking that soon perhaps my attorney will ask them.

Is it me, or is there an aura of, "we'll sue for not being consulted about the fact of if this is an alien franchise or not related film from the O'Bannon clan?. Fair enough if they're entitled to some of the profits from the film rights, but why can't both sides just sit down and thrash this out in a civil manner. I know fox are not known for being the easiest people to liase with when it comes to money and royalties. but frankly it's posts with comments like this which get the wheels of legal and copyright breach proceedings turning. Which can lead to production and release delays. It nearly happened with watchmen a few years back. Off the subject ,does andyone know if Ridley got his R/18 rating he was pushing for after for prometheus? or did Rothman and his buddies get the PG13 they wanted?
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the p...
Post by: Valaquen on Mar 20, 2011, 11:14:05 AM
Quote from: Wobblyboddle77 on Mar 20, 2011, 11:09:40 AM
Quote from: Valaquen on Mar 20, 2011, 08:10:09 AM
Quote from: Federick Gonsa on Mar 20, 2011, 06:24:31 AM
The whole million years into the future could be another mislead from fox. Perhaps they heard it and said "wow... That is so not our script... but hey, we can use this to mislead even more!"
All we have is speculation, I guess. I asked Diane O'Bannon about it via FB, here's what she told me:

Frankly, I have calls in to 20th about this new non-Alien Alien prequel, since they have contractual obligations to the writers if it is part of the Alien franchise. No one has gotten back to me. Perhaps it is so very secret, even their legal department doesn't know. I am thinking that soon perhaps my attorney will ask them.

Is it me, or is there an aura of, "we'll sue for not being consulted about the fact of if this is an alien franchise or not related film from the O'Bannon clan?. Fair enough if they're entitled to some of the profits from the film rights, but why can't both sides just sit down and thrash this out in a civil manner. I know fox are not known for being the easiest people to liase with when it comes to money and royalties. but frankly it's posts with comments like this which get the wheels of legal and copyright breach proceedings turning. Which can lead to production and release delays. It nearly happened with watchmen a few years back. Off the subject ,does andyone know if Ridley got his R/18 rating he was pushing for after for prometheus? or did Rothman and his buddies get the PG13 they wanted?
No, it means if it's an Alien film, O'Bannon gets credited, as he did for every other Alien film in a 'Characters Created By' credit. Since it's been rumoured to be an Alien film, and they haven't been contacted, then they're curious to know what's going on. She didn't mean anything at all 'suing,' lawyers are also intermediaries for business, and may be need to prick the ears of someone who, after several attempts, have been ignoring the other party.The film won't be put into delays over a bloody 'Characters Created By' credit. As for the rating issue, that seemed to be rumour amid all the other BS that was floating around.
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: Wobblyboddle77 on Mar 20, 2011, 11:27:52 AM
Thanks alot for clearing that up, it looks like fox are taking the same approach as avatar , by keeping stum and only releasing bits here and there.
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: ThisBethesdaSea on Mar 20, 2011, 03:44:07 PM
If the derelict and the space jockey are in it, it's an alien film.
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the p...
Post by: Bad Replicant on Mar 20, 2011, 04:21:11 PM
Quote from: Valaquen on Mar 20, 2011, 11:14:05 AM
No, it means if it's an Alien film, O'Bannon gets credited, as he did for every other Alien film in a 'Characters Created By' credit. Since it's been rumoured to be an Alien film, and they haven't been contacted, then they're curious to know what's going on. She didn't mean anything at all 'suing,' lawyers are also intermediaries for business, and may be need to prick the ears of someone who, after several attempts, have been ignoring the other party.The film won't be put into delays over a bloody 'Characters Created By' credit. As for the rating issue, that seemed to be rumour amid all the other BS that was floating around.

I've noticed a few reports have listed David Giler and Walter Hill with their usual billing as producers. If that's for real, seems like Fox would have to give O'bannon and Shussett their credits as well.
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: shakermakerman on Mar 20, 2011, 10:35:08 PM
I hope this bridges the gap from AvP to Alien, maybe Ridley can show a Predator ship, you know just have it in the back ground or something.
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: Sharp Sticks on Mar 20, 2011, 10:36:09 PM
It won't.
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: nendo on Mar 20, 2011, 11:50:25 PM
Quote from: shakermakerman on Mar 20, 2011, 10:35:08 PM
I hope this bridges the gap from AvP to Alien, maybe Ridley can show a Predator ship, you know just have it in the back ground or something.

in all honestly why would he do that? The predator was never a part of the alien franchise he created. It came about through comics which is commen to do. Think terminator versus predator etc. From there is spawned games and then movies.

Why would ridley want to accept this as part of cannon to the alien franchise?
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: MrSpaceJockey on Mar 21, 2011, 12:00:12 AM
Where'd I put that video of Ridley hating on AvP....
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: JaaayDee on Mar 21, 2011, 01:59:23 AM
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Mar 21, 2011, 12:00:12 AM
Where'd I put that video of Ridley hating on AvP....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TQLRMIGA2I# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TQLRMIGA2I#)

This video?
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: MrSpaceJockey on Mar 21, 2011, 02:30:40 AM
Yep. This cursed device I am using prohibits proper copy and pasting as I know of. Nonetheless yeah, thats it, thanks.
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: stroggificated on Mar 21, 2011, 11:40:16 AM
FOX will force him to do it. I guarantee it.
And after saying such mean, mean and mean things about the xeno, everything is possible with Sir Scott. ;D
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: dandan on Mar 26, 2011, 08:00:00 PM
A guy who is currently working on some kind of "consoles" at pinewood for prometheus i wounder what they could be for? maybe the space jockey ship ?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi2.bebo.com%2F051b%2F7%2Flarge%2F2011%2F03%2F26%2F19%2F8386610908a12900800431l.jpg&hash=bf0dd2bf88632918210dad48ed9992fedcf43c0c)
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: JaaayDee on Mar 26, 2011, 08:15:44 PM
Quote from: dandan on Mar 26, 2011, 08:00:00 PM
A guy who is currently working on some kind of "consoles" at pinewood for prometheus i wounder what they could be for? maybe the space jockey ship ?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi2.bebo.com%2F051b%2F7%2Flarge%2F2011%2F03%2F26%2F19%2F8386610908a12900800431l.jpg&hash=bf0dd2bf88632918210dad48ed9992fedcf43c0c)

There is a wide vocabulary for 'consoles'...

He could be talking about cockpits for the spaceships, or the console terminal on the computer screens.
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: SiL on Mar 26, 2011, 10:16:23 PM
Why on Earth would anyone immediately leap to alien ships cos someone said console?

Way more likely it's the human stuff.
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: dandan on Mar 26, 2011, 11:13:06 PM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 26, 2011, 10:16:23 PM
Why on Earth would anyone immediately leap to alien ships cos someone said console?

Way more likely it's the human stuff.

like what that guy said     "or the console terminal on the computer screens."

he means it could be for the human vehicles or human computers what ever....
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: Alexa Chung on Mar 27, 2011, 01:56:35 AM
probably the console for ridley's cigar dispenser
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: JaaayDee on Mar 28, 2011, 06:28:32 AM
'Consoles' confirmed for cockpit stations
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi51.tinypic.com%2Fdcfqrl.jpg&hash=5977414da77a192c483a305034f27a8f78e1db7c)
Now for which spaceship however....space jockey ship or human?
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: SiL on Mar 28, 2011, 06:34:54 AM
... how does that quote confirm they're for cockpit stations? All he says is they look good.
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the p...
Post by: Wobblyboddle77 on Mar 28, 2011, 09:36:40 AM
i think these are human consoles, space jockeys operate their ships telepathically as they are biomechanically grown into them, and communicate all through mind transfer. That's assuming prometheus has space jockeys or Scott changes how the jockeys operate and make them more physical in the movie. My perspective is Noomi Rapace was rumoured to have a part a few months back and so was Michael Fassbender, it was all true, so i'm kind of believing this info of a space jockey set in pinewood to be true also. i'm loving logging in here every day and reading all the news and discussion transpiring about this film. Scott was bang on about changing it from a direct prequel to prometheus. Let's hope the fox execs let scott get on with it and don't stick their corporate noses in too much
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the p...
Post by: SiL on Mar 28, 2011, 09:48:36 AM
Quote from: Wobblyboddle77 on Mar 28, 2011, 09:36:40 AM
space jockeys operate their ships telepathically as they are biomechanically grown into them, and communicate all through mind transfer.
... what.
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: Wobblyboddle77 on Mar 28, 2011, 09:59:56 AM
If you read alien harvest, space jockeys kind of rest motionless when piloting one of their ships, and control the ship telepathically, it's in the second half of the script when the jockey ship is being pursued by the human ship. They pretty much do alot of communicating through telepathy.If some of  the alien harvest script has made it to prometheus final draft such as how space jockeys live and communicate through telepathy.Im betting these consoles being built are for the human ships of the film. 
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: SiL on Mar 28, 2011, 10:03:01 AM
I have no doubt they're human consoles.

I also have no doubt I will never acknowledge Alien Harvest's validity as anything other than fan fiction.
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: Wobblyboddle77 on Mar 28, 2011, 10:03:21 AM
and there's no need for the abrupt ......what . be civil please i'm just trying to explain my point of view, which i'm entitled to do.
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: SiL on Mar 28, 2011, 10:05:56 AM
I know, I was just wondering where the assertion that they were definitely telepathic came from. Didn't mean to come across as rude, just surprised :P
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: Wobblyboddle77 on Mar 28, 2011, 10:28:04 AM
ok buddy no probs  :D
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: JaaayDee on Mar 28, 2011, 04:00:23 PM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 28, 2011, 06:34:54 AM
... how does that quote confirm they're for cockpit stations? All he says is they look good.

Because unix commands aren't really much.  Unless they're stylized like Mother's interface.
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: dandan on Mar 28, 2011, 05:42:10 PM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 28, 2011, 10:05:56 AM
I know, I was just wondering where the assertion that they were definitely telepathic came from. Didn't mean to come across as rude, just surprised :P

tbh no one knows but ridley him self and his crew whats going on... so no one can say that jockeys don't use  telepathic to control there ships how do you know that ? they could do ? but no one knows
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: Teape on Mar 29, 2011, 04:12:55 PM
Just signed up here, so forgive me.  However I've read 80% of the Aliens EU stuff and it's a common theme throughout that the SJs and Aliens are telepathic, particularly Outbreak aka Earth Hive, and Female War.  Sometimes its pheromones, sometimes its "royal jelly" causing hallucinations.  DEFINITELY not saying that the creators of Prometheus are reading this stuff, but some of the news tidbits have been strikingly similar to what was done by Dark Horse in the 90's.
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: Vulhala on Mar 29, 2011, 05:46:10 PM
Welcome to the site mate :)
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: predxeno on Mar 29, 2011, 06:00:46 PM
Yeah, welcome.  Always nice to have someone well versed in the EU here, like me. :D
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: Teape on Mar 29, 2011, 06:12:57 PM
Thanks for the welcome.  Glad to be somewhere where we can speculate on the real nuts and bolts of this thing.
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: predxeno on Mar 29, 2011, 08:14:44 PM
EU=real nuts and bolts

Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. ;D
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: Sharp Sticks on Mar 29, 2011, 08:20:16 PM
Quote from: predxeno on Mar 29, 2011, 08:14:44 PM
EU=real nuts and bolts

I'm picturing a chair from Ikea with only three legs attached and a box of nails hammered into the armrests.

Now where did those instructions get to...
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: predxeno on Mar 29, 2011, 08:21:40 PM
Chet ate them.
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: Sharp Sticks on Mar 29, 2011, 08:25:12 PM
Typical Chet.
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the p...
Post by: Omegamorph on Mar 29, 2011, 08:35:07 PM
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Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: Vulhala on Mar 29, 2011, 11:19:59 PM
 ::)

Guys....
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: Teape on Mar 30, 2011, 05:47:13 PM
Anywhoo...

Space Jockey's rule the universe millions of years ago by using the xenos, it gets outta hand, things go bad.  Archaeologists in the future find some of their bio-tech.  They use the tech to more properly chart courses through space via a big giger head, think System Shock woman giger face thing.  Bio-tech head is inevitably linked telepathically to remaining Space Jockeys.  Thus bringing the curious Noomi and the others face to face with said Jockeys where secrets of the universe are revealed.  Maybe the Jockeys see this as some sort of opportunity to reclaim their place as gods of the universe.
Title: Re: Part of Prometheus set 'millions of years in the past'
Post by: CainsSon on Apr 27, 2011, 08:51:48 PM
Quote from: Teape on Mar 30, 2011, 05:47:13 PM
Anywhoo...

Space Jockey's rule the universe millions of years ago by using the xenos, it gets outta hand, things go bad.  Archaeologists in the future find some of their bio-tech.  They use the tech to more properly chart courses through space via a big giger head, think System Shock woman giger face thing.  Bio-tech head is inevitably linked telepathically to remaining Space Jockeys.  Thus bringing the curious Noomi and the others face to face with said Jockeys where secrets of the universe are revealed.  Maybe the Jockeys see this as some sort of opportunity to reclaim their place as gods of the universe.

Hmmm. You know there is SOMETHING interesting about this proposal. If the tech you speak of is 'STOLEN' from the 'Gods of the Universe', the Space Jockeys, and they have some way of finding out and are pissed off and so, they set a trap, THE DERELICT, to punish the human race.

This would be quite similar to the myth of PROMETHEUS.

I also think it should be worth noting that PROMETHEUS and ADAM AND EVE IN 'PARADISE' are THE TWO Mythological versions of the creation story.