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Title: Alien 5 Probably Not Happening Unless Covenant Succeeds
Post by: PRJ_since1990 on Jan 27, 2017, 12:37:28 AM
For any that missed it, I made a video discussing my thoughts regarding Alien 5/Neill Blomkamp's untitled Alien movie. Here it is, let me know what you think and drop a like if you enjoy!


Will Alien 5 get the go-ahead from FOX pending Prometheus sequels or is it doomed to concept art only? Share your thoughts!
Title: Re: Alien 5 Probably Not Happening Unless Covenant Succeeds
Post by: D. Compton Ambrose on Jan 30, 2017, 11:59:07 PM
Probably not Neill's film as he intended it, but they will never stop making Alien films. Like they will never stop making Star Wars or Halo games. Hopefully whatever comes out after Covenant does indeed give Ellen Ripley a proper ending (and if they bring back Newt, be sneaky about it, fool the audience into thinking it is not really her until the very end).
Title: Re: Alien 5 Probably Not Happening Unless Covenant Succeeds
Post by: PRJ_since1990 on Feb 13, 2017, 01:58:05 AM
Quote from: LCpl. D. Grant on Jan 30, 2017, 11:59:07 PM
Probably not Neill's film as he intended it, but they will never stop making Alien films. Like they will never stop making Star Wars or Halo games. Hopefully whatever comes out after Covenant does indeed give Ellen Ripley a proper ending (and if they bring back Newt, be sneaky about it, fool the audience into thinking it is not really her until the very end).
Agreed. Keep milking the cash cow, even if you alienate some of the core fans or original fans, if it makes money, do it. At least that's their mindset.
Title: Re: Alien 5 Probably Not Happening Unless Covenant Succeeds
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 13, 2017, 07:37:39 PM
I'd been of the opinion that 3.2's chances depend greatly on Covenant's success. I couldn't fault Fox for wanting to see how well Covenant does before sinking more cash in an Alien film. That said, I'm not convinced it'll matter anymore. I think all the stars are now out of alignment and Weaver and Blomkamp are moving on.
Title: Re: Alien 5 Probably Not Happening Unless Covenant Succeeds
Post by: N-Shifter on Feb 13, 2017, 07:41:52 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 13, 2017, 07:37:39 PM
I think all the stars are now out of alignment and Weaver and Blomkamp are moving on.

:'(

This saddens me, one last Sigourney led Alien movie with the actual Ripley would have been amazing.
Title: Re: Alien 5 Probably Not Happening Unless Covenant Succeeds
Post by: BishopShouldGo on Feb 13, 2017, 09:29:00 PM
I really do think they'll swing back around to it after Ridley's trilogy. Sigourney doesn't age, and even if she does look older and will be 70-72, who cares. She isn't going to be wrestling dudes in suits.
Title: Re: Alien 5 Probably Not Happening Unless Covenant Succeeds
Post by: HuDaFuK on Feb 15, 2017, 10:33:27 AM
I can't decide if Covenant's performance will affect the film's chances or not.

On the one hand, if it's a huge success, there's a good chance they'll want to stick with Ridley and focus on his series.

On the other, if it doesn't do well, maybe they'll decide to take a chance on Blomkamp and go in a different direction.

Having said that, it's success could just as well fuel Blomliens.
Title: Re: Alien 5 Probably Not Happening Unless Covenant Succeeds
Post by: D. Compton Ambrose on Feb 15, 2017, 08:35:37 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Feb 15, 2017, 10:33:27 AM
I can't decide if Covenant's performance will affect the film's chances or not.

On the one hand, if it's a huge success, there's a good chance they'll want to stick with Ridley and focus on his series.

On the other, if it doesn't do well, maybe they'll decide to take a chance on Blomkamp and go in a different direction.

Having said that, it's success could just as well fuel Blomliens.

But, don't you think it would be more likely that they'll do "Blomliens" BEFORE Ridley's series, and THEN do Ridley's IF Alien: Covenant is a success, as opposed to a failure?
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Post by: Nyarlathotep on Feb 15, 2017, 09:02:45 PM
They better not, "Blomliens" should stay in the garbage can where it belongs.
Title: Re: Alien 5 Probably Not Happening Unless Covenant Succeeds
Post by: HuDaFuK on Feb 15, 2017, 09:47:46 PM
Quote from: LCpl. D. Grant on Feb 15, 2017, 08:35:37 PMBut, don't you think it would be more likely that they'll do "Blomliens" BEFORE Ridley's series, and THEN do Ridley's IF Alien: Covenant is a success, as opposed to a failure?

Maybe, but likewise I think there's a good chance that if Covenant is a success, they'll want a sequel far sooner than the five years it's taken to get the follow-up to Prometheus.

I certainly don't think the studio would force Ridley to wait on account of Blomkamp if Covenant does do really well.
Title: Re: Alien 5 Probably Not Happening Unless Covenant Suc...
Post by: windebieste on Feb 15, 2017, 10:13:39 PM
If Blomkamp's script is as good as everyone who has seen it says it is, then it may yet be re-purposed to possibly end up being used as a basis for a sequel to 'ALIEN: Covenant' but with characters appropriate to the earlier timeline.   

-Windebieste.
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Post by: salomonj on Feb 16, 2017, 02:55:20 AM
Quote from: windebieste on Feb 15, 2017, 10:13:39 PM
If Blomkamp's script is as good as everyone who has seen it says it is, then it may yet be re-purposed to possibly end up being used as a basis for a sequel to 'ALIEN: Covenant' but with characters appropriate to the earlier timeline.   

-Windebieste.
The script got good reception?
Title: Re: Alien 5 Probably Not Happening Unless Covenant Suc...
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Feb 16, 2017, 04:59:03 PM
Quote from: salomonj on Feb 16, 2017, 02:55:20 AM
Quote from: windebieste on Feb 15, 2017, 10:13:39 PM
If Blomkamp's script is as good as everyone who has seen it says it is, then it may yet be re-purposed to possibly end up being used as a basis for a sequel to 'ALIEN: Covenant' but with characters appropriate to the earlier timeline.   

-Windebieste.
The script got good reception?

Blomkamp's script was praised by Sigourney Weaver, Ridley Scott and James Cameron.
Title: Re: Alien 5 Probably Not Happening Unless Covenant Suc...
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Feb 16, 2017, 05:05:33 PM
Quote from: Nyarlathotep on Feb 15, 2017, 09:02:45 PM
They better not, "Blomliens" should stay in the garbage can where it belongs.

F@CK Blomliens, and F@CK garbage cans.
Title: Re: Alien 5 Probably Not Happening Unless Covenant Suc...
Post by: Nyarlathotep on Feb 16, 2017, 10:49:00 PM
Quote from: Pvt. Himmel on Feb 16, 2017, 05:05:33 PM
Quote from: Nyarlathotep on Feb 15, 2017, 09:02:45 PM
They better not, "Blomliens" should stay in the garbage can where it belongs.

F@CK Blomliens, and F@CK garbage cans.
What did garbage cans ever do to you?
Title: Re: Alien 5 Probably Not Happening Unless Covenant Suc...
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Feb 17, 2017, 02:43:00 PM
Quote from: Nyarlathotep on Feb 16, 2017, 10:49:00 PM
Quote from: Pvt. Himmel on Feb 16, 2017, 05:05:33 PM
Quote from: Nyarlathotep on Feb 15, 2017, 09:02:45 PM
They better not, "Blomliens" should stay in the garbage can where it belongs.

F@CK Blomliens, and F@CK garbage cans.
What did garbage cans ever do to you?
What did Astroglide ever do to ruin the feeling for you? :)
Title: Re: Alien 5 Probably Not Happening Unless Covenant Succeeds
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 17, 2017, 07:55:03 PM
Back on topic, gents. Not the place.

Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Feb 16, 2017, 04:59:03 PM
Quote from: salomonj on Feb 16, 2017, 02:55:20 AM
Quote from: windebieste on Feb 15, 2017, 10:13:39 PM
If Blomkamp's script is as good as everyone who has seen it says it is, then it may yet be re-purposed to possibly end up being used as a basis for a sequel to 'ALIEN: Covenant' but with characters appropriate to the earlier timeline.   

-Windebieste.
The script got good reception?

Blomkamp's script was praised by Sigourney Weaver, Ridley Scott and James Cameron.


Aye, by all accounts those who read it liked it. I don't think we're in any position to suggest it be reworked for Covenant 2 as we have no idea what it entailed but even if we don't get Alienkamp, I do hope we get to see it in some form or another. Xenomorphine (I think) suggested release as a comic when we spoke about it on the last podcast. I'd love to see that.
Title: Re: Alien 5 Probably Not Happening Unless Covenant Succeeds
Post by: oberonqa on Feb 18, 2017, 02:52:58 PM
I'd be OK with a comic/graphic novel if a movie is indeed off the table.  Better that than nothing.  A game might also be an idea... but that would depend greatly on the needs of the story.  Would the game be action-packed like A:CM or Alien Trilogy?  Or would it be more survival horror like A:I?  Perhaps a combination of the two genres? 
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Post by: D. Compton Ambrose on Feb 18, 2017, 11:17:05 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Feb 16, 2017, 04:59:03 PM
Quote from: salomonj on Feb 16, 2017, 02:55:20 AM
Quote from: windebieste on Feb 15, 2017, 10:13:39 PM
If Blomkamp's script is as good as everyone who has seen it says it is, then it may yet be re-purposed to possibly end up being used as a basis for a sequel to 'ALIEN: Covenant' but with characters appropriate to the earlier timeline.   

-Windebieste.
The script got good reception?

Blomkamp's script was praised by Sigourney Weaver, Ridley Scott and James Cameron.
They were blowing smoke up his ass. Terri Tatchell writes the scripts and is good at it. Blomkamp, not so much.
Title: Re: Alien 5 Probably Not Happening Unless Covenant Succeeds
Post by: Inverse Effect on Mar 02, 2017, 05:52:48 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 13, 2017, 07:37:39 PM
I'd been of the opinion that 3.2's chances depend greatly on Covenant's success. I couldn't fault Fox for wanting to see how well Covenant does before sinking more cash in an Alien film. That said, I'm not convinced it'll matter anymore. I think all the stars are now out of alignment and Weaver and Blomkamp are moving on.

Do you think Fox would have pushed for the Alien in Covenant?
Title: Re: Alien 5 Probably Not Happening Unless Covenant Succeeds
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 02, 2017, 11:45:33 AM
That's my understanding of what happened.
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Post by: blood. on Mar 02, 2017, 11:47:18 AM
Aww I just want another marines vs aliens movie damn it!
Title: Re: Alien 5 Probably Not Happening Unless Covenant Succeeds
Post by: HuDaFuK on Mar 02, 2017, 02:05:39 PM
I think I'd honestly rather see a Marines vs. something else film. The Marines vs. Aliens thing has been done - exceptionally well in Aliens, and to death in the EU.
Title: Re: Alien 5 Probably Not Happening Unless Covenant Succeeds
Post by: PRJ_since1990 on Mar 06, 2017, 01:02:35 AM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Mar 02, 2017, 02:05:39 PM
I think I'd honestly rather see a Marines vs. something else film. The Marines vs. Aliens thing has been done - exceptionally well in Aliens, and to death in the EU.
Personally, I feel there's plenty of stories the big screen could tell with the USCM (including comic adaptations). ALIENS may be legend in its own right, but I could easily see a new film expand on their equipment, scope of operation, ranks/leadership and relation to WY, new characters and more Xenos to fight on new worlds. The idea of Xenos infesting multiple worlds in the human sphere makes for a large scale universe outside one event on one planetoid.

Honestly, I'd be happy if FOX greenlit productions of all the main DH novel adaptations like Rogue, Labyrinth, Genocide, etc. Even if they were cartoons or live action tv shows. 
Title: Re: Alien 5 Probably Not Happening Unless Covenant Succeeds
Post by: BishopShouldGo on Mar 06, 2017, 04:58:36 AM
Yeah lol. Done to death? Aliens just got things started...
Title: Re: Alien 5 Probably Not Happening Unless Covenant Succeeds
Post by: whiterabbit on Mar 06, 2017, 09:34:34 AM
Yea, some of us only watch the movies, moestly.  ;D

However if there was a marines vs aliens movie I want it to a war trilogy. Where each movie leads into the next.
Title: Re: Alien 5 Probably Not Happening Unless Covenant Succeeds
Post by: SiL on Mar 06, 2017, 10:42:06 AM
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Mar 06, 2017, 04:58:36 AM
Yeah lol. Done to death?
In the EU. He specifically states in the EU. Where it was done to death, decades ago. Now it's not even flogging a dead horse, it's flogging the flowers that grew out of the horse's corpse.
Title: Re: Alien 5 Probably Not Happening Unless Covenant Succeeds
Post by: Inverse Effect on Mar 08, 2017, 06:52:59 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Mar 02, 2017, 02:05:39 PM
I think I'd honestly rather see a Marines vs. something else film. The Marines vs. Aliens thing has been done - exceptionally well in Aliens, and to death in the EU.

Well Another thing that's been successfully done in the EU that is in that same setting as Marines and Aliens is including predators.. But that's getting into a totally different sub-genre at that point so heh.

I still want Alien 5 to happen soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo badly....
Title: Re: Alien 5 Probably Not Happening Unless Covenant Succeeds
Post by: PRJ_since1990 on Mar 09, 2017, 02:39:44 AM
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Mar 06, 2017, 04:58:36 AM
Yeah lol. Done to death? Aliens just got things started...
Agreed. Alien 3 was a let down in the sense that they could have gone with a more militaristic/war story continuing post ALIENS.
Quote from: whiterabbit on Mar 06, 2017, 09:34:34 AM
Yea, some of us only watch the movies, moestly.  ;D

However if there was a marines vs aliens movie I want it to a war trilogy. Where each movie leads into the next.
That would be interesting, as long as you have more memorable characters than just red shirts and Hudson wannabes.

Quote from: SiL on Mar 06, 2017, 10:42:06 AM
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Mar 06, 2017, 04:58:36 AM
Yeah lol. Done to death?
In the EU. He specifically states in the EU. Where it was done to death, decades ago. Now it's not even flogging a dead horse, it's flogging the flowers that grew out of the horse's corpse.
With respect, how many times can we change the setting, plot and characters before we realize the ultimate underlying theme is the survival against the most deadly creature in the galaxy? Not downplaying the variety of stories or trying to argue with you Sil. Just thinking that at the core of the each ALIEN movie/comic/novel/game is a nasty parasitic space wasp species and a group of humans trying to survive against it. Sure there's plenty of wiggle room with details, but doesn't it always boil down to that? Humans? Check. Alien monster? Check. Alien trying to eat them all or carry to the hive? Check.
Title: Re: Alien 5 Probably Not Happening Unless Covenant Succeeds
Post by: Rush Hour Rambo on Mar 12, 2017, 12:31:09 PM
I just want this movie made, don't even care if it's bad  :laugh:

Title: Re: Alien 5 Probably Not Happening Unless Covenant Succeeds
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 13, 2017, 04:25:04 PM
Quote from: Morse on Mar 12, 2017, 12:31:09 PM
I just want this movie made, don't even care if it's bad  :laugh:

But you'll be retconned out of existence!

Maybe you should re-think this thing.  :-\
Title: Re: Alien 5 Probably Not Happening Unless Covenant Succeeds
Post by: BishopShouldGo on Mar 13, 2017, 04:34:53 PM
It's ok. He's the guy that made a deal with God to live forever.
Title: Re: Alien 5 Probably Not Happening Unless Covenant Succeeds
Post by: D. Compton Ambrose on Mar 15, 2017, 01:47:45 AM
Quote from: PRJ_since1990 on Mar 06, 2017, 01:02:35 AM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Mar 02, 2017, 02:05:39 PM
I think I'd honestly rather see a Marines vs. something else film. The Marines vs. Aliens thing has been done - exceptionally well in Aliens, and to death in the EU.
Personally, I feel there's plenty of stories the big screen could tell with the USCM (including comic adaptations). ALIENS may be legend in its own right, but I could easily see a new film expand on their equipment, scope of operation, ranks/leadership and relation to WY, new characters and more Xenos to fight on new worlds. The idea of Xenos infesting multiple worlds in the human sphere makes for a large scale universe outside one event on one planetoid.

Honestly, I'd be happy if FOX greenlit productions of all the main DH novel adaptations like Rogue, Labyrinth, Genocide, etc. Even if they were cartoons or live action tv shows.

I think a dark, nightmare-fuel-style horror (think Poltergeist in Space) miniseries with the first season revolving loosely (I must stress loosely) around the plot of the Aliens 1-6, 1-4 and Earth War comics (for example, instead of setting it on Earth it could be set on another planet much more "alien" AKA "strange") and the second (and maybe even third) based around Harvest, Labyrinth, Rogue, Genocide and Tribes respectively.