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Title: New Interview with Logan Marshall-Green
Post by: Darkness on May 02, 2012, 05:43:52 PM

TheReelBits website have a new interview up with actor Logan Marshall-Green who plays Holloway in Prometheus. There’s no major spoilers or anything but he does talk at length about his experiences filming on set.

What can you tell us about your character?

I play Charlie Holloway, who is a scientist and the love interest of Elizabeth Shaw, Noomi Rapace's character. They are a team. If she's the brains, he's the legs.  I wouldn't go so far to say muscle, but he's the legs. He's the one who leaps before he looks, and sometimes it hurts them as a team but a lot of the times it's helped them.  He takes a lot of chances and so far so good. This mission is one of the chances. The beautiful part is Noomi and I are teamed, but we actually differ in our philosophies as to exactly what we want or what we believe. She's the believer. I'm the scientist. I'm the skeptic.  I'm the atheist, if you will. But we complete each other, for lack of a better word. We make a whole in that sense. I think its what's drawn the characters together romantically as well. It's just this kind of respect, full respect but my skepticism matched with her beliefs, her faith.

Thanks to PrometheusMovieNews.com for the tip.

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Title: Re: New Interview with Logan Marshall-Green
Post by: chupacabras acheronsis on May 02, 2012, 06:38:05 PM
he paints his character as somewhat immature, in that sense, he does sell it. doesn't mean it's a likeable character for everyone, but i know people like that so i don't doubt his performance is appropriate.
Title: Re: New Interview with Logan Marshall-Green
Post by: Space Sweeper on May 02, 2012, 06:59:52 PM
Quote from: chupacabras acheronsis on May 02, 2012, 06:38:05 PM
he paints his character as somewhat immature, in that sense, he does sell it. doesn't mean it's a likeable character for everyone, but i know people like that so i don't doubt his performance is appropriate.
Why can't more people understand that?
Title: Re: New Interview with Logan Marshall-Green
Post by: OpenMaw on May 02, 2012, 07:07:58 PM
Quote from: Space Sweeper on May 02, 2012, 06:59:52 PM
Why can't more people understand that?

Hey, heyheyhey! Listen! Some of us have made a commitment to hating this actor's performance, and we're not about to let a little thing like logic get in the way, okay!? DO YOU UNDERSTAND ME SPACE SWEEPER!?  >:(


Spoiler

Fine, fair enough!  :D
[close]


I certainly like the relationship between Shaw and Holloway. That I've always liked.
Title: Re: New Interview with Logan Marshall-Green
Post by: Cvalda on May 02, 2012, 07:14:36 PM
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 02, 2012, 07:07:58 PM
I certainly like the relationship between Shaw and Holloway. That I've always liked.
That aspect has bugged me since day one. His douchiness in the trailers has only made it worse.

All will be forgiven if he just dies a brutal, nasty death. Preferably within the first hour.
Title: Re: New Interview with Logan Marshall-Green
Post by: Ash 937 on May 02, 2012, 07:29:20 PM
Quote from: Darkness on May 02, 2012, 05:43:52 PM
I play Charlie Holloway, who is a scientist and the love interest of Elizabeth Shaw, Noomi Rapace's character. They are a team. If she's the brains, he's the legs.  I wouldn't go so far to say muscle, but he's the legs.

This relationship reminds me of Blaster Master from Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome.  Anybody see that?  Blaster Master was the name shared by two characters in that film.  One guy, referred to as Blaster, had down syndrome and was really strong.  He carried Master, a quick thinking little person who gave him orders.  Blaster was the legs, Master was the brains.  Together they were known as Blaster Master.  Blaster was eventually killed in the film and Master was left to fend for himself.  I'll bet that Charlie Holloway will get killed and leave Shaw to fend for herself.  This happens all the time in these kinds of movies.
Title: Re: New Interview with Logan Marshall-Green
Post by: Predaker on May 02, 2012, 07:45:04 PM
Quote from: Ash 937 on May 02, 2012, 07:29:20 PM
Quote from: Darkness on May 02, 2012, 05:43:52 PM
I play Charlie Holloway, who is a scientist and the love interest of Elizabeth Shaw, Noomi Rapace's character. They are a team. If she's the brains, he's the legs.  I wouldn't go so far to say muscle, but he's the legs.

This relationship reminds me of Blaster Master from Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome.  Anybody see that?  Blaster Master was the name shared by two characters in that film.  One guy, referred to as Blaster, had down syndrome and was really strong.  He carried Master, a quick thinking little person who gave him orders.  Blaster was the legs, Master was the brains.  Together they were known as Blaster Master.  Blaster was eventually killed in the film and Master was left to fend for himself.  I'll bet that Charlie Holloway will get killed and leave Shaw to fend for herself.  This happens all the time in these kinds of movies.
Now I know where Master Blaster the male stripper got his stage name from. Thank you.
Title: Re: New Interview with Logan Marshall-Green
Post by: whiterabbit on May 02, 2012, 10:34:50 PM
What I want to know is why did they have to make Holloway such a pompous asshole? Why would he risk playing the character? This is a great way to get stereotyped as an actor imo.

:P :P :P
Title: Re: New Interview with Logan Marshall-Green
Post by: ThisBethesdaSea on May 03, 2012, 07:01:07 AM
He hasn't come off like a pompous asshole, more like a headstrong child. I have heard no dialogue that supports the 'pompous asshole' theory.
Title: Re: New Interview with Logan Marshall-Green
Post by: whiterabbit on May 03, 2012, 07:42:29 AM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on May 03, 2012, 07:01:07 AM
He hasn't come off like a pompous asshole, more like a headstrong child. I have heard no dialogue that supports the 'pompous asshole' theory.
I heard that the egotistic psycho bit is after he has already been implanted. Oh and he doesn't write his own lines either. Though he still looks strange in the movie, straight from the start. As if he Vaselines himself down is the best way I can put it. Of course I didn't know who he was till Prometheus so he better be awesome. Just kid. :P
Title: Re: New Interview with Logan Marshall-Green
Post by: ChrisPachi on May 03, 2012, 10:11:27 AM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on May 03, 2012, 07:01:07 AMHe hasn't come off like a pompous asshole, more like a headstrong child. I have heard no dialogue that supports the 'pompous asshole' theory.

You know what's worse? A dumbass macho 'look before you leap' himbo type character that shouts stupid shit like 'woooh, you ready for this!'. Now that is supported.

I'm with the 'kill him quick' crowd. ;)
Title: Re: New Interview with Logan Marshall-Green
Post by: ThisBethesdaSea on May 03, 2012, 01:56:57 PM
Sounds like Hudson to me...
Title: Re: New Interview with Logan Marshall-Green
Post by: OpenMaw on May 03, 2012, 02:08:45 PM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on May 03, 2012, 01:56:57 PM
Sounds like Hudson to me...

It really doesn't. Hudson was macho, sure, but the rest of the group was calling him on it and putting him in his place constantly.

"You ever been mistaken for a man?" - Hudson
"No. Have you?" - Vasquez

"Sir, how do I get outta this chicken shit outfit?" - Hudson
"You secure that shit Hudson." - Apone

"We got nukes, knives, sharpsticks...!" - Hudson
"knock it off, Hudson!" - Apone

"Smoking or non-smoking?" - Hudson
"Just tell me what you're scanning for, private." - Gorman

"Yeah man, but it's a dry heat." - Hudson
"Knock it off, Hudson." - Apone

"Oh that's great. That's just ****ing great man. Now what the **** are we supposed to do? This is some really shit now man!" - Hudson
"You finished?" - Hicks

"What are we gonna do!?" - Hudson
"Maybe we could build a fire, sing a couple of songs, why don't we try that?!" - Burke

"Well why don't you put her in charge!?" - Hudson
"Hudson! Listen to me; Just deal with it, because i'm sick of your bullshit." - Ripley

"It ain't half fair man!" - Hudson
"Hudson give us a break!" - Vasquez

"Think of what!? We're ****ed! We're doomed!" - Hudson
"SHUT UP!" - Hicks


I'm seeing no indication anyone is telling this immature fool to shut his macho, arrogant, douche baggery up.
Title: Re: New Interview with Logan Marshall-Green
Post by: brodels_nazz on May 03, 2012, 06:56:55 PM
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 03, 2012, 02:08:45 PM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on May 03, 2012, 01:56:57 PM
Sounds like Hudson to me...

It really doesn't. Hudson was macho, sure, but the rest of the group was calling him on it and putting him in his place constantly.

"You ever been mistaken for a man?" - Hudson
"No. Have you?" - Vasquez

"Sir, how do I get outta this chicken shit outfit?" - Hudson
"You secure that shit Hudson." - Apone

"We got nukes, knives, sharpsticks...!" - Hudson
"knock it off, Hudson!" - Apone

"Smoking or non-smoking?" - Hudson
"Just tell me what you're scanning for, private." - Gorman

"Yeah man, but it's a dry heat." - Hudson
"Knock it off, Hudson." - Apone

"Oh that's great. That's just ****ing great man. Now what the **** are we supposed to do? This is some really shit now man!" - Hudson
"You finished?" - Hicks

"What are we gonna do!?" - Hudson
"Maybe we could build a fire, sing a couple of songs, why don't we try that?!" - Burke

"Well why don't you put her in charge!?" - Hudson
"Hudson! Listen to me; Just deal with it, because i'm sick of your bullshit." - Ripley

"It ain't half fair man!" - Hudson
"Hudson give us a break!" - Vasquez

"Think of what!? We're ****ed! We're doomed!" - Hudson
"SHUT UP!" - Hicks


I'm seeing no indication anyone is telling this immature fool to shut his macho, arrogant, douche baggery up.

Probably because the movie hasn't come out yet.
Title: Re: New Interview with Logan Marshall-Green
Post by: OpenMaw on May 03, 2012, 07:01:22 PM
Quote from: brodels_nazz on May 03, 2012, 06:56:55 PM
Probably because the movie hasn't come out yet.

No. Because it's not indicated anywhere in anything that we've seen. I guarantee you, aside from dying, nobody is going to tell him to STFU.
Title: Re: New Interview with Logan Marshall-Green
Post by: ThisBethesdaSea on May 03, 2012, 07:03:38 PM
You know this how Open Maw? Exactly :)
Title: Re: New Interview with Logan Marshall-Green
Post by: OpenMaw on May 03, 2012, 07:14:59 PM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on May 03, 2012, 07:03:38 PM
You know this how Open Maw? Exactly :)

How exactly? Instinct. Gut feeling. I can read Jon Spaights and Damon Lindelof's minds. Mostly, because I said so!!!!  >:(

What better reason is there?

Spoiler

It's just my opinion based on the vibe i'm getting, dude. :)
[close]

;D
Title: Re: New Interview with Logan Marshall-Green
Post by: Predaker on May 03, 2012, 08:26:25 PM
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 03, 2012, 02:08:45 PM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on May 03, 2012, 01:56:57 PM
Sounds like Hudson to me...

It really doesn't. Hudson was macho, sure, but the rest of the group was calling him on it and putting him in his place constantly.

"You ever been mistaken for a man?" - Hudson
"No. Have you?" - Vasquez

"Sir, how do I get outta this chicken shit outfit?" - Hudson
"You secure that shit Hudson." - Apone

"We got nukes, knives, sharpsticks...!" - Hudson
"knock it off, Hudson!" - Apone

"Smoking or non-smoking?" - Hudson
"Just tell me what you're scanning for, private." - Gorman

"Yeah man, but it's a dry heat." - Hudson
"Knock it off, Hudson." - Apone

"Oh that's great. That's just ****ing great man. Now what the **** are we supposed to do? This is some really shit now man!" - Hudson
"You finished?" - Hicks

"What are we gonna do!?" - Hudson
"Maybe we could build a fire, sing a couple of songs, why don't we try that?!" - Burke

"Well why don't you put her in charge!?" - Hudson
"Hudson! Listen to me; Just deal with it, because i'm sick of your bullshit." - Ripley

"It ain't half fair man!" - Hudson
"Hudson give us a break!" - Vasquez

"Think of what!? We're ****ed! We're doomed!" - Hudson
"SHUT UP!" - Hicks


I'm seeing no indication anyone is telling this immature fool to shut his macho, arrogant, douche baggery up.
Thanks for compiling those quotes together! That was fun reading.

It should be interesting to hear Ms. Vickers reply to LMG when he obtusely askes, "Ms. Vickers, do you have an agenda here?"

I hope she melts his face with laser beams from her eyes.

Edit: Obtuse (adjective) 1. Annoyingly insensitive or slow to understand.  :D

If Sir Ridley directed LMG to be obtuse, then he nailed it.
Title: Re: New Interview with Logan Marshall-Green
Post by: Space Sweeper on May 03, 2012, 08:57:25 PM
Man, it really doesn't take much to be considered "macho".
Title: Re: New Interview with Logan Marshall-Green
Post by: Cvalda on May 03, 2012, 09:01:07 PM
I think emphasis should be placed less on him being "macho", and more on him being a "douche."
Title: Re: New Interview with Logan Marshall-Green
Post by: Predaker on May 03, 2012, 09:23:45 PM
Ms. Cvalda, do you have an agenda here?

lol j/k ;D
Title: Re: New Interview with Logan Marshall-Green
Post by: OpenMaw on May 03, 2012, 09:38:08 PM
Quote from: Predaker on May 03, 2012, 09:23:45 PM
Ms. Cvalda, do you have an agenda here?

lol j/k ;D

No, do it right.

"Ms. Cvalda is there some kind of agenda you aren't telling us about?"

You have to overly emphasis it!
Title: Re: New Interview with Logan Marshall-Green
Post by: First Blood on May 03, 2012, 09:46:46 PM
Okay -- I'll admit that line came off less convincing then I would have liked. But other than that, I feel indifferent towards LMG. No love or hate. Just going to wait till June to get a better feel for the character.
Title: Re: New Interview with Logan Marshall-Green
Post by: Predaker on May 03, 2012, 10:36:45 PM
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 03, 2012, 09:38:08 PM
Quote from: Predaker on May 03, 2012, 09:23:45 PM
Ms. Cvalda, do you have an agenda here?

lol j/k ;D

No, do it right.

"Ms. Cvalda is there some kind of agenda you aren't telling us about?"

You have to overly emphasis it!
Thanks for the correction! I had a feeling I was quoting him wrong. That type of dialog doesn't come naturally to me, I suppose. (ie: douche)  ;D
Title: Re: New Interview with Logan Marshall-Green
Post by: ChrisPachi on May 04, 2012, 12:00:47 AM
"Ms. Vickers, is there some kind of agenda you aren't telling us about?"

That is a pretty clumsy line, considering that, um, there most definitely is an agenda. These writers really need to work on their foreshadowing. ;)
Title: Re: New Interview with Logan Marshall-Green
Post by: Ash 937 on May 04, 2012, 07:33:20 AM
Quote from: ChrisPachi on May 04, 2012, 12:00:47 AM
"Ms. Vickers, is there some kind of agenda you aren't telling us about?"

That is a pretty clumsy line, considering that, um, there most definitely is an agenda. These writers really need to work on their foreshadowing. ;)

What if Vickers answers, "No" and the rest of the film is how the crew of Prometheus and her use teamwork to solve their problems?  Or what if Vickers isn't informed about any special agenda and only finds out later that she's been manipulated along with the crew of Prometheus.

But I do agree with you in the sense that nobody would ask a question as blatant as that to anybody unless they were a complete idiot.  LMG's character looks too clean cut for such stupidity.  That line would be more suited to the guy with the tattoos on his head because he already looks like an imbecile.
Title: Re: New Interview with Logan Marshall-Green
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on May 04, 2012, 08:33:57 AM
"Himbo?"  Really?

I get that it's not supposed to have mushy stuff like romance in the big cool science fiction movie or whatever, but I don't see too much wrong with LMG.  He's playing a headstrong guy who gets in over his head and clearly will pay a nasty price.  I think labeling Holloway a douchebag in a high school letterman's jacket based on limited material viewed is a bit much and a lot of projection.  He's far from my first interest in the supporting cast - I'm much more into Rafe Spall, Sean Harris and the positively obscure Kate Dickie - but he seems alright for what he does.

As for the line to Vickers, it's an obvious line in a genre script.  But I also thought he delivered it a bit facetiously, trying to tweak her.  Because what else is Holloway going to do with the corporate suit?
Title: Re: New Interview with Logan Marshall-Green
Post by: JKS1 on May 04, 2012, 10:16:17 AM
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 03, 2012, 02:08:45 PM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on May 03, 2012, 01:56:57 PM
Sounds like Hudson to me...

It really doesn't. Hudson was macho, sure, but the rest of the group was calling him on it and putting him in his place constantly.

"You ever been mistaken for a man?" - Hudson
"No. Have you?" - Vasquez

"Sir, how do I get outta this chicken shit outfit?" - Hudson
"You secure that shit Hudson." - Apone

"We got nukes, knives, sharpsticks...!" - Hudson
"knock it off, Hudson!" - Apone

"Smoking or non-smoking?" - Hudson
"Just tell me what you're scanning for, private." - Gorman

"Yeah man, but it's a dry heat." - Hudson
"Knock it off, Hudson." - Apone

"Oh that's great. That's just ****ing great man. Now what the **** are we supposed to do? This is some really shit now man!" - Hudson
"You finished?" - Hicks

"What are we gonna do!?" - Hudson
"Maybe we could build a fire, sing a couple of songs, why don't we try that?!" - Burke

"Well why don't you put her in charge!?" - Hudson
"Hudson! Listen to me; Just deal with it, because i'm sick of your bullshit." - Ripley

"It ain't half fair man!" - Hudson
"Hudson give us a break!" - Vasquez

"Think of what!? We're ****ed! We're doomed!" - Hudson
"SHUT UP!" - Hicks


I'm seeing no indication anyone is telling this immature fool to shut his macho, arrogant, douche baggery up.

the LMG apologists cant seem to get it into their skulls that its NOT the character of Holloway that is grating, not the immature, macho, 'wooh pepsi max' personality of the character that is irritating, but what is very grating is that LMG just doesnt sell any believability in this role from the little weve seen so far.

Paxton as Hudson was completely believable in that role and had me totally sold, he didnt look like he was acting, he nailed the character and you bought it completely

By comparison LMG's performance (the brief snippets of it we've glimpsed so far) is cheesy, hammy and makes me flinch in the same way you would when you hear an obvious and loud bum note come out of the otherwise pitch perfect string section of the London Philharmonic

He looks and sounds like he's acting.............and badly............and THATS the problem.............NOT the character he's playing
Title: Re: New Interview with Logan Marshall-Green
Post by: Space Sweeper on May 04, 2012, 10:31:11 AM
Quote from: JKS1 on May 04, 2012, 10:16:17 AM
the LMG apologists
Yeah, no. Those willing to reserve judgment.

Also, putting every keyword of your post in bold and with an underline doesn't really sell what you're trying to say; kinda over emphasizes it.

;)
Title: Re: New Interview with Logan Marshall-Green
Post by: JKS1 on May 04, 2012, 10:41:42 AM
Quote from: Space Sweeper on May 04, 2012, 10:31:11 AM
Quote from: JKS1 on May 04, 2012, 10:16:17 AM
the LMG apologists
Yeah, no. Those willing to reserve judgment.

Also, putting every keyword of your post in bold and with an underline doesn't really sell what you're trying to say; kinda over emphasizes it.

;)

Just like Logan Marshall Green

Well not quite, as at least I dont stick out like an ugly sore thumb in amongst an otherwise excellent cast of performers in the most anticipated and what looks to be the most visually stunning epic scifi outing in decades

[insert smug emoticon of choice here]
Title: Re: New Interview with Logan Marshall-Green
Post by: Space Sweeper on May 04, 2012, 10:57:33 AM
Quote from: JKS1 on May 04, 2012, 10:41:42 AM
Just like Logan Marshall Green
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fspud.wetfish.net%2Fb%2Fthe-joke.jpg&hash=660a53c3f1636a3415e59e757cf2a6ce1eedec2d)

Quote from: JKS1 on May 04, 2012, 10:41:42 AM
[insert smug emoticon of choice here]
...
Quote from: JKS1 on May 04, 2012, 10:41:42 AM
[:J]

Because jayface is the shit.
Title: Re: New Interview with Logan Marshall-Green
Post by: JKS1 on May 04, 2012, 11:40:05 AM
Quote from: Space Sweeper on May 04, 2012, 10:57:33 AM
Quote from: JKS1 on May 04, 2012, 10:41:42 AM
Just like Logan Marshall Green
http://spud.wetfish.net/b/the-joke.jpg

Quote from: JKS1 on May 04, 2012, 10:41:42 AM
[insert smug emoticon of choice here]
...
Quote from: JKS1 on May 04, 2012, 10:41:42 AM
[:J]

Because jayface is the shit.

[yawn]

[insert yet another hilarious self satisfied emoticon]
Title: Re: New Interview with Logan Marshall-Green
Post by: whiterabbit on May 04, 2012, 12:04:02 PM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi48.tinypic.com%2F28kr4ux.png&hash=e4d3f5293373f80a0b376c6d7abaaf391a25c30d)

Oh sure blame the lousy resolution and helmet but I just can't get excited about the character.
Title: Re: New Interview with Logan Marshall-Green
Post by: OpenMaw on May 04, 2012, 12:08:09 PM
Quote from: Space Sweeper on May 04, 2012, 10:31:11 AM
Quote from: JKS1 on May 04, 2012, 10:16:17 AM
the LMG apologists
Yeah, no. Those willing to reserve judgment.

Also, putting every keyword of your post in bold and with an underline doesn't really sell what you're trying to say; kinda over emphasizes it.

;)

Yeah, no. No... Maybe!

You know something? It's getting really hard to argue with some of the people on here because they all look like Charlize Theron, and I can't think straight whenever she's around.
Title: Re: New Interview with Logan Marshall-Green
Post by: ThisBethesdaSea on May 04, 2012, 12:12:12 PM
Maybe we're not supposed to like Logan's character?
Title: Re: New Interview with Logan Marshall-Green
Post by: Predaker on May 04, 2012, 12:19:13 PM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on May 04, 2012, 12:12:12 PM
Maybe we're not supposed to like Logan's character?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.memegenerator.net%2Finstances%2F400x%2F9629882.jpg&hash=4ccaf7518a89b12d1e9cb50f5f013186c23a809b)
Title: Re: New Interview with Logan Marshall-Green
Post by: EGM1966 on May 04, 2012, 01:23:08 PM
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 03, 2012, 02:08:45 PM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on May 03, 2012, 01:56:57 PM
Sounds like Hudson to me...

It really doesn't. Hudson was macho, sure, but the rest of the group was calling him on it and putting him in his place constantly.

"You ever been mistaken for a man?" - Hudson
"No. Have you?" - Vasquez

"Sir, how do I get outta this chicken shit outfit?" - Hudson
"You secure that shit Hudson." - Apone

"We got nukes, knives, sharpsticks...!" - Hudson
"knock it off, Hudson!" - Apone

"Smoking or non-smoking?" - Hudson
"Just tell me what you're scanning for, private." - Gorman

"Yeah man, but it's a dry heat." - Hudson
"Knock it off, Hudson." - Apone

"Oh that's great. That's just ****ing great man. Now what the **** are we supposed to do? This is some really shit now man!" - Hudson
"You finished?" - Hicks

"What are we gonna do!?" - Hudson
"Maybe we could build a fire, sing a couple of songs, why don't we try that?!" - Burke

"Well why don't you put her in charge!?" - Hudson
"Hudson! Listen to me; Just deal with it, because i'm sick of your bullshit." - Ripley

"It ain't half fair man!" - Hudson
"Hudson give us a break!" - Vasquez

"Think of what!? We're ****ed! We're doomed!" - Hudson
"SHUT UP!" - Hicks


I'm seeing no indication anyone is telling this immature fool to shut his macho, arrogant, douche baggery up.
I have no real view on the character or the performance yet - not enough to go on.

But I love Bill Paxton - he was perfect as Hudson.  I really liked the way they took him past the edge where you saw he was struggling with real fear and even a degree of cowardice in the face of the unknown.  But he died a man!  Bill always does in the end.

I will say that I'm expecting both Holloway and Shaw to have their characters worldview challenged and changed, and I do hope LMG is up to the task as I know nothing about him as an actor vs the rest of the main cast who are all more than good enough to pass muster.