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Lot`s of new shoots in it. Great, thanks for posting.

i guess shaw gets stuck on the moon after all

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Thx Darkoo - great find  8)

Made this with the most significant new shots

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Something doesn't add up with Ridley mentioning the planet as Z2R (it's a star - not a planetoid) and mentioning Io, which is a Jupiter moon - or it's edited out of context or something...

Having said that, "Zeta II Reticuli is a moon just off Io" is total arse-wipe. Well spotted Eva.

Zeta II Reticuli is a real star about 32 light years from our sun. And Io is a small rocky moon of Jupiter!  Pfff

Also, rather naughty to have a moon in an inclined orbit so near the rings - gravitational torques would bend the rings, or more likely scatter ring material inwards, where it will enter the atmosphere, or scatter it outwards. Who was the science advisor I wonder...?

Quote from: ucdom on May 09, 2012, 11:31:29 AM
Having said that, "Zeta II Reticuli is a moon just off Io" is total arse-wipe. Well spotted Eva.

Zeta II Reticuli is a real star about 32 light years from our sun. And Io is a small rocky moon of Jupiter!  Pfff

Also, rather naughty to have a moon in an inclined orbit so near the rings - gravitational torques would bend the rings, or more likely scatter ring material inwards, where it will enter the atmosphere, or scatter it outwards. Who was the science advisor I wonder...?

how in gods name do you guys know this information? you seem to know more about the universe then RS? lol

Quote from: Kev Loaf on May 09, 2012, 11:36:58 AM

Quote from: ucdom on May 09, 2012, 11:31:29 AM
Having said that, "Zeta II Reticuli is a moon just off Io" is total arse-wipe. Well spotted Eva.

Zeta II Reticuli is a real star about 32 light years from our sun. And Io is a small rocky moon of Jupiter!  Pfff

Also, rather naughty to have a moon in an inclined orbit so near the rings - gravitational torques would bend the rings, or more likely scatter ring material inwards, where it will enter the atmosphere, or scatter it outwards. Who was the science advisor I wonder...?

how in gods name do you guys know this information? you seem to know more about the universe then RS? lol

I'm a planetary scientist, it's my job to know this sort of sh*t

Quote from: ucdom on May 09, 2012, 11:38:34 AM

Quote from: Kev Loaf on May 09, 2012, 11:36:58 AM

Quote from: ucdom on May 09, 2012, 11:31:29 AM
Having said that, "Zeta II Reticuli is a moon just off Io" is total arse-wipe. Well spotted Eva.

Zeta II Reticuli is a real star about 32 light years from our sun. And Io is a small rocky moon of Jupiter!  Pfff

Also, rather naughty to have a moon in an inclined orbit so near the rings - gravitational torques would bend the rings, or more likely scatter ring material inwards, where it will enter the atmosphere, or scatter it outwards. Who was the science advisor I wonder...?

how in gods name do you guys know this information? you seem to know more about the universe then RS? lol

I'm a planetary scientist, it's my job to know this sort of sh*t

so all this planets, Reta-zawhatchmacallit an LV-bigbollocks etc all exist in real life? :0 MIND=BLOWN

Well, as for LV-bigbollocks, that's my business...  ;)

But yes, Zeta II Reticuli is a real star - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeta_Reticuli (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeta_Reticuli)
Although exoplanet hunters have discovered hundreds of planets around other stars, I am not aware that any have been discovered around Z-2-R. This may be because this star has not searched for planets, or that planets there are small (and by small I mean Earth-sized - most easily detected exoplanets are Jupiter-sized or larger).

And Io is indeed a real moon of Jupiter.

My comment about moons orbiting near rings is based on the very real space-craft observations (Voyager, Galileo, Cassini) of moons orbiting in or near ring systems around Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune.

 LV-bigbollocks

sounds awesome

lol

Quote from: ucdom on May 09, 2012, 11:47:07 AM
Well, as for LV-bigbollocks, that's my business...  ;)

But yes, Zeta II Reticuli is a real star - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeta_Reticuli (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeta_Reticuli)
Although exoplanet hunters have discovered hundreds of planets around other stars, I am not aware that any have been discovered around Z-2-R. This may be because this star has not searched for planets, or that planets there are small (and by small I mean Earth-sized - most easily detected exoplanets are Jupiter-sized or larger).

And Io is indeed a real moon of Jupiter.

My comment about moons orbiting near rings is based on the very real space-craft observations (Voyager, Galileo, Cassini) of moons orbiting in or near ring systems around Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune.

thats awesome man. i had no clue about stuff like that. i thought it was made up. would be crazy if being like the SJ also existed. im envious of the generation that will make first contact! unless first contact is with something like a Xeno :o

I really think he meant to say star when talking about zeta II reticuli. The large gas giant is probably called Io.

Also I get the hint that when shaw says she was so wrong; she talking about her belief in god.

edit: oh and for those saying that there is already a moon called Io around Jupiter; maybe in the ancient texts they find the planet is called Io and decided to stick with it. Because otherwise this is one heck of a screw up.

Quote from: Kev Loaf on May 09, 2012, 11:36:58 AM
how in gods name do you guys know this information? you seem to know more about the universe then RS? lol

I'll attribute my somewhat restricted knowledge into astronomy to the adventures of Yoko Tsuno and reading those comics while growing up. It sparked my interest into the real deal, although I'm in no way a capacity on the subject  :D

I wouldn't make anything big out of Ridleys comments - he could be having us on for all we know or just mix up some names during an interview, squeezed into a busy work schedule. Leave it to the trolls on imdb to speculate further and create 15 threads on the matter, should they have nothing better to do...

PS: I think Shaw being wrong, is her addressing the 'invitation angle' or how they interpreted the cave pictograms in the first place.  ;)

You should check out the Exoplanet Catalogue (http://exoplanet.eu/ (http://exoplanet.eu/)) which has 763 confirmed entries to date. Astronomers already know of roughly Earth-sized planets, and I think it will be a matter of 10-20 years before we have seen real Earth analogues, where we can observe the signatures of water, oxygen, and maybe even life.

Reading through the wikipedia entry for Z-2-R I notice a few interesting facts. The star is very similar in brightness to our sun, but is fairly young, perhaps much as 1/5 the age of our sun. Also, the star has a very low abundance of heavy elements, which would seem to suggest that rocky/metallic planets are unlikely. Also, there are some observations that indicate a dust disk around the star at about the same distance as our asteroid belt.

Quote from: ucdom on May 09, 2012, 12:05:34 PMAstronomers already know of roughly Earth-sized planets, and I think it will be a matter of 10-20 years before we have seen real Earth analogues, where we can observe the signatures of water, oxygen, and maybe even life.

More like 2-3 years. :P

Quote from: wikipediaThe two stars are somewhat deficient in metals, having only 60% of the proportion of elements other than hydrogen and helium as compared to the Sun. For reasons that remain uncertain, they have an anomalously low abundance of beryllium. Both stars are considered unusual because they have a lower luminosity than is normal for main sequence stars of their age and surface temperature.

Sure sounds like someone is harvesting the stars power. Maybe a dyson spear? A similar idea is seen in the orerry.

Quote from: whiterabbit on May 09, 2012, 12:01:47 PM
I really think he meant to say star when talking about zeta II reticuli. The large gas giant is probably called Io.

Also I get the hint that when shaw says she was so wrong; she talking about her belief in god.

I think it`s RS mistake and won`t have any impact on film.

Quoteedit: oh and for those saying that there is already a moon called Io around Jupiter; maybe in the ancient texts they find the planet is called Io and decided to stick with it. Because otherwise this is one heck of a screw up.

IO is anciant name of Zeus`s (Jupiter`s) lover. Other major moons of Jupiter ( called Galilean Moons) are Europ, Ganymede and Callisto) also have mitological names.

Quote from: whiterabbit on May 09, 2012, 12:13:35 PM

Quote from: ucdom on May 09, 2012, 12:05:34 PMAstronomers already know of roughly Earth-sized planets, and I think it will be a matter of 10-20 years before we have seen real Earth analogues, where we can observe the signatures of water, oxygen, and maybe even life.

More like 2-3 years. :P

Quote from: wikipediaThe two stars are somewhat deficient in metals, having only 60% of the proportion of elements other than hydrogen and helium as compared to the Sun. For reasons that remain uncertain, they have an anomalously low abundance of beryllium. Both stars are considered unusual because they have a lower luminosity than is normal for main sequence stars of their age and surface temperature.

Sure sounds like someone is harvesting the stars power. Maybe a dyson spear? A similar idea is seen in the orerry.

Interesting. If it were a complete Dyson Sphere you'd expect only to see the star in the infrared. There are reasonable explanations for all the observations of the two zeta reticuli stars; in other words you don't need to resort to possible extra-terrestrial engineering. But I don't think it can be ruled out either....

Great post, thanks for sharing

This movie looks more and more stunning with each new snippet of footage and Fassbender's David seems to be emerging as one of the coolest characters ever - my prediction is that Fassbender completely steals the show with this one

Quote from: ucdom on May 09, 2012, 12:22:58 PM

Quote from: whiterabbit on May 09, 2012, 12:13:35 PM

Quote from: ucdom on May 09, 2012, 12:05:34 PMAstronomers already know of roughly Earth-sized planets, and I think it will be a matter of 10-20 years before we have seen real Earth analogues, where we can observe the signatures of water, oxygen, and maybe even life.

More like 2-3 years. :P

Quote from: wikipediaThe two stars are somewhat deficient in metals, having only 60% of the proportion of elements other than hydrogen and helium as compared to the Sun. For reasons that remain uncertain, they have an anomalously low abundance of beryllium. Both stars are considered unusual because they have a lower luminosity than is normal for main sequence stars of their age and surface temperature.

Sure sounds like someone is harvesting the stars power. Maybe a dyson spear? A similar idea is seen in the orerry.

Interesting. If it were a complete Dyson Sphere you'd expect only to see the star in the infrared. There are reasonable explanations for all the observations of the two zeta reticuli stars; in other words you don't need to resort to possible extra-terrestrial engineering. But I don't think it can be ruled out either....

It definitely would make for a good sci-fi story and that is what Prometheus has morphed into. It has gone form a story about space jockeys and xenomorphs to a "what if" all of that ancient astronaut bullshit is true. A what if idea working around feasibility. To me that is what a sci-fi movie is supposed to be about. I know it's a tight rope but it's similar to how the new star trek movie, aside from names and universe, was not a star trek movie at all. There was no real attempt to insert any "feasible" science fiction nor moral delima in it. I think Ridley is really trying to put the sci-fi back into science fiction movies. If that makes any sense?


Oh and xenomorph cameo.

Quote from: Kev Loaf on May 09, 2012, 11:41:54 AM

Quote from: ucdom on May 09, 2012, 11:38:34 AM

Quote from: Kev Loaf on May 09, 2012, 11:36:58 AM

Quote from: ucdom on May 09, 2012, 11:31:29 AM
Having said that, "Zeta II Reticuli is a moon just off Io" is total arse-wipe. Well spotted Eva.

Zeta II Reticuli is a real star about 32 light years from our sun. And Io is a small rocky moon of Jupiter!  Pfff

Also, rather naughty to have a moon in an inclined orbit so near the rings - gravitational torques would bend the rings, or more likely scatter ring material inwards, where it will enter the atmosphere, or scatter it outwards. Who was the science advisor I wonder...?

how in gods name do you guys know this information? you seem to know more about the universe then RS? lol

I'm a planetary scientist, it's my job to know this sort of sh*t

so all this planets, Reta-zawhatchmacallit an LV-bigbollocks etc all exist in real life? :0 MIND=BLOWN

Yes all this bollocks exist in real life for people who take the f**king care and read a bit about the worlsd that surrounds them... Either you are troll sir, {according to the number of posts you have you aren't}, or you play dumb on purpose, or, and I don't wanna to say that, you are ral ignorant idiot ;]

Quote from: whiterabbit on May 09, 2012, 12:41:56 PM

Quote from: ucdom on May 09, 2012, 12:22:58 PM

Quote from: whiterabbit on May 09, 2012, 12:13:35 PM

Quote from: ucdom on May 09, 2012, 12:05:34 PMAstronomers already know of roughly Earth-sized planets, and I think it will be a matter of 10-20 years before we have seen real Earth analogues, where we can observe the signatures of water, oxygen, and maybe even life.

More like 2-3 years. :P

Quote from: wikipediaThe two stars are somewhat deficient in metals, having only 60% of the proportion of elements other than hydrogen and helium as compared to the Sun. For reasons that remain uncertain, they have an anomalously low abundance of beryllium. Both stars are considered unusual because they have a lower luminosity than is normal for main sequence stars of their age and surface temperature.

Sure sounds like someone is harvesting the stars power. Maybe a dyson spear? A similar idea is seen in the orerry.

Interesting. If it were a complete Dyson Sphere you'd expect only to see the star in the infrared. There are reasonable explanations for all the observations of the two zeta reticuli stars; in other words you don't need to resort to possible extra-terrestrial engineering. But I don't think it can be ruled out either....

It definitely would make for a good sci-fi story and that is what Prometheus has morphed into. It has gone form a story about space jockeys and xenomorphs to a "what if" all of that ancient astronaut bullshit is true. A what if idea working around feasibility. To me that is what a sci-fi movie is supposed to be about. I know it's a tight rope but it's similar to how the new star trek movie, aside from names and universe, was not a star trek movie at all. There was no real attempt to insert any "feasible" science fiction nor moral delima in it. I think Ridley is really trying to put the sci-fi back into science fiction movies. If that makes any sense?


Oh and xenomorph cameo.

guurl, that's the medical pod, not an alien

Quote from: DendaReloaded on May 09, 2012, 12:48:50 PM
guurl, that's the medical pod, not an alien

Agreed  :D

"What I wanna do is scare the living sh*t out of you."  :)

Quote from: metalos on May 09, 2012, 12:58:39 PM
"What I wanna do is scare the living shit out of you."  :)

Got my adult nappy to go with my ticket to the midnight May 31st screening - woohoo

Quote from: Ruzena on May 09, 2012, 12:43:50 PM

Quote from: Kev Loaf on May 09, 2012, 11:41:54 AM

Quote from: ucdom on May 09, 2012, 11:38:34 AM

Quote from: Kev Loaf on May 09, 2012, 11:36:58 AM

Quote from: ucdom on May 09, 2012, 11:31:29 AM
Having said that, "Zeta II Reticuli is a moon just off Io" is total arse-wipe. Well spotted Eva.

Zeta II Reticuli is a real star about 32 light years from our sun. And Io is a small rocky moon of Jupiter!  Pfff

Also, rather naughty to have a moon in an inclined orbit so near the rings - gravitational torques would bend the rings, or more likely scatter ring material inwards, where it will enter the atmosphere, or scatter it outwards. Who was the science advisor I wonder...?

how in gods name do you guys know this information? you seem to know more about the universe then RS? lol

I'm a planetary scientist, it's my job to know this sort of sh*t

so all this planets, Reta-zawhatchmacallit an LV-bigbollocks etc all exist in real life? :0 MIND=BLOWN

Yes all this bollocks exist in real life for people who take the f**king care and read a bit about the worlsd that surrounds them... Either you are troll sir, {according to the number of posts you have you aren't}, or you play dumb on purpose, or, and I don't wanna to say that, you are ral ignorant idiot ;]

We have a badass over here.

The person who I questioned (the scientist) did not get upset over my ignorant comments so don't get your knickers in a twist. I suggest you go home, get a hoover/vacum and take the sand out of your vagina.

Peace.

can someone do a little transcript (guuurls, i did one for the russain 3minute featuerette too)
the part where shaw talks etc...puuuhleaaasse

Quote from: Eva on May 09, 2012, 11:30:17 AM


Something doesn't add up with Ridley mentioning the planet as Z2R (it's a star - not a planetoid) and mentioning Io, which is a Jupiter moon - or it's edited out of context or something...

Ridley insists in referring to Zeta II Reticuli as a planet which he has already done a couple of years back

Quote from: ucdom on May 09, 2012, 11:31:29 AM
Having said that, "Zeta II Reticuli is a moon just off Io" is total arse-wipe.

It disappoints me how he didn't seem to realise it's the very same place he set his original film around. He should know this stuff.

QuoteWho was the science advisor I wonder...?

Some random dude they grabbed off of IMDB...

Quote from: JKS1 on May 09, 2012, 12:36:39 PM
This movie looks more and more stunning with each new snippet of footage and Fassbender's David seems to be emerging as one of the coolest characters ever - my prediction is that Fassbender completely steals the show with this one

Much like the technology in general, that particular use of cynical humour is starting to make him seem more advanced than the models like Ash and Bishop. Which, y'know, I can deal with, but like I've said before, it's going to make the series look weird, as a whole, when you try and view them as one long continuity.

I know Ridley wanted to just get out all the shiny new toys, but this project keeps feeling like they should've hired someone to look over the technological concepts to see if they fit in with the other films. I keep getting the strangest feeling that, by the end of this, we'll be left with weird nagging questions like, "Why didn't Hicks just tell everyone to use their old XZ-9 Bio-Neutralisers? Things sure would've been a whole lot simpler..."

This featurette actually made me like Logan Marshall-Green for some reason. He seems likeable now. Felt bad for him watching the scene where his eyes are damaged/changed.

Quote from: Xenomorphine on May 09, 2012, 01:28:58 PM

Quote from: ucdom on May 09, 2012, 11:31:29 AM
Having said that, "Zeta II Reticuli is a moon just off Io" is total arse-wipe.

It disappoints me how he didn't seem to realise it's the very same place he set his original film around. He should know this stuff.

QuoteWho was the science advisor I wonder...?

Some random dude they grabbed off of IMDB...

Quote from: JKS1 on May 09, 2012, 12:36:39 PM
This movie looks more and more stunning with each new snippet of footage and Fassbender's David seems to be emerging as one of the coolest characters ever - my prediction is that Fassbender completely steals the show with this one

Much like the technology in general, that particular use of cynical humour is starting to make him seem more advanced than the models like Ash and Bishop. Which, y'know, I can deal with, but like I've said before, it's going to make the series look weird, as a whole, when you try and view them as one long continuity.

I know Ridley wanted to just get out all the shiny new toys, but this project keeps feeling like they should've hired someone to look over the technological concepts to see if they fit in with the other films. I keep getting the strangest feeling that, by the end of this, we'll be left with weird nagging questions like, "Why didn't Hicks just tell everyone to use their old XZ-9 Bio-Neutralisers? Things sure would've been a whole lot simpler..."

It's a movie, and fictional. Ridley rightly doesn't CARE if the technobable is accurate or not, and I have no doubt he only cares that his own two films are consistent, rather than the sequels he was not involved in.

Also, the audience don't care if there are inconsistencies, especially in terms of scientific facts.

Quote from: zoidy on May 09, 2012, 01:43:20 PM
It's a movie, and fictional. Ridley rightly doesn't CARE if the technobable is accurate or not, and I have no doubt he only cares that his own two films are consistent, rather than the sequels he was not involved in.

Which might be do-able if he wasn't apparently including lots of 'Aliens' references, too.

QuoteAlso, the audience don't care if there are inconsistencies, especially in terms of scientific facts.

Depends how obvious those inconsistencies are.

Like I said, I'm sure it'll work fine as a piece of individual entertainment, but the more I see of it, the more I think they should've just made up their own original thing, instead of making replicas of the Space Jockey, stamping the Weyland logo on everything, etcetera. Just labelling it a prequel is bad enough - the audience already knows it's a foregone conclusion that Earth won't be in peril, even though they're trying to push that angle in the advertisements.

I'm not going to judge it, one way or another, until I've seen it. Just observing that each time something new is revealed, the more it seems like it's going to stick out oddly when viewed with the other films.

Quote from: Xenomorphine on May 09, 2012, 01:28:58 PM

Quote from: ucdom on May 09, 2012, 11:31:29 AM
Having said that, "Zeta II Reticuli is a moon just off Io" is total arse-wipe.

It disappoints me how he didn't seem to realise it's the very same place he set his original film around. He should know this stuff.

well, actually he didn't set it anywhere, there was no star system named as far as the original production crew are concerned. It looks as if as far as he's concerned it was gobbledigook and it could easily mean anything or something different to them completely going by the commentary for the movie. And it looks as if Dan added the line because he was interested in that whole area of discussion. I'm not sure what to make of it all.

Quote from: wmmvrrvrrmm on May 09, 2012, 02:00:24 PM

Quote from: Xenomorphine on May 09, 2012, 01:28:58 PM

Quote from: ucdom on May 09, 2012, 11:31:29 AM
Having said that, "Zeta II Reticuli is a moon just off Io" is total arse-wipe.

It disappoints me how he didn't seem to realise it's the very same place he set his original film around. He should know this stuff.

well, actually he didn't set it anywhere, there was no star system named as far as the original production crew are concerned. It looks as if as far as he's concerned it was gobbledigook and it could easily mean anything or something different to them completely going by the commentary for the movie. And it looks as if Dan added the line because he was interested in that whole area of discussion. I'm not sure what to make of it all.

Lambert: "We're just short of Zeta II Reticuli. We havent reached the outer rim yet."

Quote from: 180924609 on May 09, 2012, 02:04:12 PM

Lambert: "We're just short of Zeta II Reticuli. We havent reached the outer rim yet."

No exact data about their actual distance from that place or what that place actually was in the script, although it's assumed that it was the star by that name.

Quote from: zoidy on May 09, 2012, 01:43:20 PM

Quote from: Xenomorphine on May 09, 2012, 01:28:58 PM

Quote from: ucdom on May 09, 2012, 11:31:29 AM
Having said that, "Zeta II Reticuli is a moon just off Io" is total arse-wipe.

It disappoints me how he didn't seem to realise it's the very same place he set his original film around. He should know this stuff.

QuoteWho was the science advisor I wonder...?

Some random dude they grabbed off of IMDB...

Quote from: JKS1 on May 09, 2012, 12:36:39 PM
This movie looks more and more stunning with each new snippet of footage and Fassbender's David seems to be emerging as one of the coolest characters ever - my prediction is that Fassbender completely steals the show with this one

Much like the technology in general, that particular use of cynical humour is starting to make him seem more advanced than the models like Ash and Bishop. Which, y'know, I can deal with, but like I've said before, it's going to make the series look weird, as a whole, when you try and view them as one long continuity.

I know Ridley wanted to just get out all the shiny new toys, but this project keeps feeling like they should've hired someone to look over the technological concepts to see if they fit in with the other films. I keep getting the strangest feeling that, by the end of this, we'll be left with weird nagging questions like, "Why didn't Hicks just tell everyone to use their old XZ-9 Bio-Neutralisers? Things sure would've been a whole lot simpler..."

It's a movie, and fictional. Ridley rightly doesn't CARE if the technobable is accurate or not, and I have no doubt he only cares that his own two films are consistent, rather than the sequels he was not involved in.

Also, the audience don't care if there are inconsistencies, especially in terms of scientific facts.

Maybe David 8 does prove to be too advanced so when they release the Ash line (don't know his model name or number) they toned down its behavior and mellowed it out a bit. 

Plus Zeta Reticuli has 'enjoyed' a long history in UFO circles, which may be where Dan O Bannon plucked the name from. A couple of well-known UFO abductees in the late 60s, Betty and Barney Hill, claimed to have a star map showing that the slanty-eyed grey aliens came from Zeta Reticuli.

Anyway....pardon me for not getting my undies in a bind over stating correctly the star system, and how it may not flow completely with the established ALIEN saga..... ;) lolz....  :P :P :P ::) ??? :o 8)


I actually like what I saw of Logan Marshall Green as well in terms of his acting. This was a fantastic little segment. I hope the Blu Ray behind the scenes documentary is at least 2 hours. Can't wait!

LV   4-2= 2
       2  = 2
       6-3=3


That's all the thinking that went into that decision...

Quote from: ucdom on May 09, 2012, 02:10:55 PM
Plus Zeta Reticuli has 'enjoyed' a long history in UFO circles, which may be where Dan O Bannon plucked the name from. A couple of well-known UFO abductees in the late 60s, Betty and Barney Hill, claimed to have a star map showing that the slanty-eyed grey aliens came from Zeta Reticuli.

Judging by the galactic diagram from the original Alien script he seemed to have created, he was referencing The Zeta Reticuli Incident pamphlet (http://alienexplorations.blogspot.co.uk/2009/02/galactic-geography-of-alien-however.html (http://alienexplorations.blogspot.co.uk/2009/02/galactic-geography-of-alien-however.html))

I hope we get this in HD soon.  :)

I wish it was in any sort of downloadable form right now

Quote from: whiterabbit on May 09, 2012, 12:01:47 PM
Also I get the hint that when shaw says she was so wrong; she talking about her belief in god.

Nope. Because the full dialogue was "I was wrong. We were so wrong." So it's not just her personal belief she's talking about. Holloway doesn't share her religious belief either. So it's gotta be specifically about the Engineers and what they represented that she's referring to.

really good video with new footage! thanks.

i must say, i love science and i love accuracy, and i totally respect where more knowledgeable scientists are coming from when they are comparing reality to the film, i think we might all want that.

but the thing you should accept pretty soon is that films are not bound by a rule to be scientifically accurate. films are a creative field, things are done for artistic or creative reasons, scientific reasons can easily come last or not even be considered.

so i would stop expecting the film to live up to actual science at this point as based on what has been pointed out by yourselves, its not going to be 100% realistic. but it will be a 110% enjoyable film.

i think Ridley made a mistake, or just chose to simply 'simplify' what he was explaining for the wider audience, and say they go to 'zeta II reticuli', i doubt for the video's sake he would explain (they go to a planet called bla bla which is next to, bla bla, orbiting etc)


i guess its confirmed then that the film does take place in the same Star System, and now it looks more likely that its the same  Ringed Gas Giant as we saw in alien.. except they look nothing alike, which does annoy me, as i dont like the cgi look of the planet that much in the long distance shots, and i loved the look of the planets in ALIEN, that gas giant looked so neat, despite not maybe being scientifically accurate looking for a gas giant.  also does hurt continuity.

i agree, i think fassbender will be a bit advanced compared to bishop/Ash. although i still think Ash seemed more Human, even more so than bishop (bishop seemed robotic).

David seems robotic but more intelligent and psychologically adept. but this is just one of many things that seem more advanced than what was in alien and its sequels.. the suits look more futuristic and so does the ship. so does the hyper sleep beds compared to the ones scene in ALIEN.

every scene i see of david just makes me like his character more and more, im certain he will be my favourite, and for me atleast, steal the show in terms of characters. Fassbender has brilliantly taken the traits of lawrence from lawrence of arabia i can see it very clearly.

the only thing that bothers me, is the original gas giant in alien had atleast 3 moons, in the alien film only '2' are present.

i like consistency and it annoys me when there isnt.

the ship in prometheus looked different to me, can nayone compare screen shots of the ship from older trailers to the one in this footage of it standing upright on its back? im sure its been changed. maybe it will emphasis its NOT the ship in ALIEN.



lastly.. iv seen many documentaries, such as ancient aliens, outlining 'evidence' that mankind did not do everything without some kind of special tools or help from elsewhere, suggesting extraterrestrials visited us in our ancient past.

it seems like ridley/lindeleof have taken from these documentaries and theories and turned it into the alien prequel we have now.

so the film will be that the space jockeys made humans (purpose unknown yet, or if the jockey who seeded us  is prometheus or not)

that shot of the DNA in the video makes me more certain..

plus the films official plot description, scientests go on a venture into space because of evidence they find leading to mankinds origins.

not sure if it was confirmed before, but its new for me to realize that this planet has many/several temples identicle atleast, is it likely then that eacho of those temples = different trips from the prometheus ship? i wonder what is in each one.

Quote from: Esoteric_Voyage on May 09, 2012, 03:34:10 PM
really good video with new footage! thanks.

i must say, i love science and i love accuracy, and i totally respect where more knowledgeable scientists are coming from when they are comparing reality to the film, i think we might all want that.

but the thing you should accept pretty soon is that films are not bound by a rule to be scientifically accurate. films are a creative field, things are done for artistic or creative reasons, scientific reasons can easily come last or not even be considered.

so i would stop expecting the film to live up to actual science at this point as based on what has been pointed out by yourselves, its not going to be 100% realistic. but it will be a 110% enjoyable film.

Of course, I take your point, and I agree that it will be enjoyable no matter what. I do have to tell myself to relax when I see little inaccuracies though, especially when they would have been so easy to avoid. I personally do not believe that accuracy needs to be sacrificed to artistry - why else do people lap up real images of planets from space missions?

I would have loved to be a science consultant on this thing, or - *cough* - on any future projects....yeah? I mean I would do anything...
Anything
Like, who do I have to f*ck around here...?

I was niggled by an inaccuracy in Star Trek, where the Enterprise emerged from Titan's clouds to show Saturn with a great swathe of tilted rings in the background. Titan orbits in Saturn's equatorial plane - you'd only ever see the rings edge on. And their science consultant worked on the Cassini mission to Saturn !!! 

Quote from: Xenomorphine on May 09, 2012, 01:59:34 PM

Quote from: zoidy on May 09, 2012, 01:43:20 PM
It's a movie, and fictional. Ridley rightly doesn't CARE if the technobable is accurate or not, and I have no doubt he only cares that his own two films are consistent, rather than the sequels he was not involved in.

Which might be do-able if he wasn't apparently including lots of 'Aliens' references, too.

I don't know if he is though. I know the marketing by Fox includes Aliens related stuff, pulse rifles and power loaders etc, but Prometheus itself? I haven't seen anything that suggests Aliens references at all. The movie just seems to link to Alien, though no doubt Ridley won't do anything that expressly refutes Aliens in any way, no reason to.

Quote from: Xenomorphine

Quote from: zoidyAlso, the audience don't care if there are inconsistencies, especially in terms of scientific facts.

Depends how obvious those inconsistencies are.

Like I said, I'm sure it'll work fine as a piece of individual entertainment, but the more I see of it, the more I think they should've just made up their own original thing, instead of making replicas of the Space Jockey, stamping the Weyland logo on everything, etcetera. Just labelling it a prequel is bad enough - the audience already knows it's a foregone conclusion that Earth won't be in peril, even though they're trying to push that angle in the advertisements.

I'm not going to judge it, one way or another, until I've seen it. Just observing that each time something new is revealed, the more it seems like it's going to stick out oddly when viewed with the other films.

The way I look at Prometheus is to imagine how I might have felt before John Carpenter's The Thing was released, if I had been a fan of the original movie or indeed the story they both came from. In that situation, I could start being critical about how the source should be respected, everything should conform to "canon", oh my god Carpenter's made a terrible mistake including fancy technology like a chess computer! ... etc.

But that would have been silly cos the movie was so good. And if Prometheus is that good, no one will care a damn about the walls not being right, or the chair not being exactly the same scale, or which fictional planet it's set on.

IF the film is good ...

Quote from: ucdom on May 09, 2012, 03:48:26 PM

Quote from: Esoteric_Voyage on May 09, 2012, 03:34:10 PM
really good video with new footage! thanks.

i must say, i love science and i love accuracy, and i totally respect where more knowledgeable scientists are coming from when they are comparing reality to the film, i think we might all want that.

but the thing you should accept pretty soon is that films are not bound by a rule to be scientifically accurate. films are a creative field, things are done for artistic or creative reasons, scientific reasons can easily come last or not even be considered.

so i would stop expecting the film to live up to actual science at this point as based on what has been pointed out by yourselves, its not going to be 100% realistic. but it will be a 110% enjoyable film.

Of course, I take your point, and I agree that it will be enjoyable no matter what. I do have to tell myself to relax when I see little inaccuracies though, especially when they would have been so easy to avoid. I personally do not believe that accuracy needs to be sacrificed to artistry - why else do people lap up real images of planets from space missions?

I would have loved to be a science consultant on this thing, or - *cough* - on any future projects....yeah? I mean I would do anything...
Anything
Like, who do I have to f*ck around here...?

I was niggled by an inaccuracy in Star Trek, where the Enterprise emerged from Titan's clouds to show Saturn with a great swathe of tilted rings in the background. Titan orbits in Saturn's equatorial plane - you'd only ever see the rings edge on. And their science consultant worked on the Cassini mission to Saturn !!!

im not sure who said it, if it was you or not, but someone mentioned that the ring of a gas giant would lose its shape if planets were too near.

in ALIEN this is exactly what we see, minus the ring losing its shape, if it lost its shape it might not have looked at beautiful, atleast to me, or as artistic.  i also understand this well myself now as i make space art too, i have made gas giants that are definitely not scientifically accurate, their textures are not realistic, but artistically beautiful, like the gas giant in ALIEN.

this to me, is a strong example of where, i will do things for artistic and creative reasons, for the nicest looking result, as opposed to the most realistic and scientifically accurate.

science is for facts.

films/creativity/art, always prioritise their own means over science and accuracy, unless its intentionally made to be accurate according to scientific fact.

this is why based on prometheus, we should now avoid and stop analysing things for scientific accuracy as its probably established now that it wont be in every single way.

if they wanted this film to be exactly scientifically accurate, im certain they would hire you or a scientist to make it accurate, and its possible they did but for creative/artistic reasons, went against some of the facts.

this is the culture of films/art. :)



comparison of ship in new footage to old footage:

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appears to be mostly similar, the ship has been turned vertically trhe other way round for the shot, its not clear if other changes have been made nbut its significant ithought since peopel debate if its THE ship in ALien or not.

It's a movie.  Who cares?

As for David, I always thought Ash was perfectly capable of cynicism and contempt.  Long before his head came off he seemed quite  tired of those people and the job.  I don't see David as "more advanced" at all - except for the footage here, he actually seems more artificial than the relatively naturalistic Ash, which makes sense as he was the first.

Quote from: zoidy on May 09, 2012, 03:51:32 PM

Quote from: Xenomorphine on May 09, 2012, 01:59:34 PM
Which might be do-able if he wasn't apparently including lots of 'Aliens' references, too.

I don't know if he is though. I know the marketing by Fox includes Aliens related stuff, pulse rifles and power loaders etc, but Prometheus itself? I haven't seen anything that suggests Aliens references at all. The movie just seems to link to Alien, though no doubt Ridley won't do anything that expressly refutes Aliens in any way, no reason to.

From the 3-4 minutes of footage we've seen:

- The huge wallsized viewscreen in Vickers quarters projecting forrests/desert enviroments, is most likely a direct reference to the similar viewscreen in Aliens DC, also projecting a forrest enviroment.

- Weyland

I noticed this from the new featurette as well:

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The crew shooting a scene in the juggernauts control room - the resolution/detail isn't good enough to tell whether the camera viewer is showing a smaller and larger person fighting (or something) or if it's just one person. Judging from the use of smoke and lighting (+ you can tell to the far right that the chair controls are 'on'/illuminated), I'd guess that whatever happens in this scene, takes place after the juggernaut has crashed on the planetoid.

PS: be careful concluding whether this is the Z2R system or not, based on that shot of the gas giant with LV223 in orbit. Models/renderings of planetoids, stars, moons etc. are rarely done to correct scale - the focus is presenting complex details and information for use in whatever context, in a manner that gets the vital information across using a model you can easily understand and relate to. I've never seen a model depicting our own solar system correct to scale and illustrating the correct distances between the planets + the Sun, also to scale.

If that gas giant shot is to be taken at 100% face value, this system isn't the same as the one in Alien. The gas giant lacks an orbiting moon/planetoid and the rings are twice as wide as the rings surrounding the gas giant in Alien. but as I said - such details are of no use and we can't conclude anything from them...  ;)

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the thing about the rings isn't necessarily so, its easily the angle and the view of the rings/planet that make them look less wide in the shot in alien. if the shot in alien was of th same angle as in that rendering in the featurette, the rings would appear wide. the only thing that suggests it isnt the same gas giant and its moons is the lack of a moon and their sizes compared to te original scene (as remade in my signature)

but given that ridley has mentioned zeta II reticuli, and the new planet in prometheus is very closely named, my gut feeling says its the same system.

Putting aside whether Ridley misspoke or the unforgivable continuity gaffe of the density of the giant's rings, I wanted to say I really like what I've been seeing of Shaw all along.  It may just be the clips they choose and the scant discussion in the press, but she seems very much the anti-Ripley, at least early on.  Noomi Rapace is playing against her Girl with the Dragon Tattoo type as sort of a willowy, seemingly fragile (shown in body horror peril in trailers), slightly hippie-dippie sentimental spiritualist.  Shaw seems demure in the latest featurette, fretting that the crew will think she's crazy.  This is all the opposite of the relentlessly practical Ripley.

While we know Shaw will 'toughen up' in more superficial ways, what's also interesting is the scene we see of her with Janek in the pantry or mess.  Clearly something unfortunate has already occurred, and she's still this relatively delicate-seeming heroine, but her will is undeterred as she says she would die for her answers if she has to.  Shaw's strength is on the inside.  It's interesting to me to see a character who, superficially, might appear to be the "Lambert" to fans being thrust forward and allowed to show an inner core.  I think it's a real nice departure from the cliches that spun out in other genre work after Ripley.

Also intriguing to me is Shaw and Holloway's relationship.  Here again he is shown as the aggressor, with Vickers, in the lecture, with David, and even in the cockpit.  He seems like a very driven, focused personality; how did they get together?  Or has she been deferring to his 'wisdom' for years?

Holloway looks seriously like he's caught a serious case FUBAR in that new shot!

Why on earth would Shaw even consider banging him in that state?  ???

Speedymaxx has been wondering what holloway has got that Speedymaxx hasn't  ;D

Quote from: Esoteric_Voyage on May 09, 2012, 07:09:40 PM
Speedymaxx has been wondering what holloway has got that Speedymaxx hasn't  ;D

lolno.  That's, shall we say, not my division.

Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on May 09, 2012, 06:12:33 PM
Also intriguing to me is Shaw and Holloway's relationship.  Here again he is shown as the aggressor, with Vickers, in the lecture, with David, and even in the cockpit.  He seems like a very driven, focused personality; how did they get together?  Or has she been deferring to his 'wisdom' for years?

I think it was said by LMG that Holloway and Shaw basically compliment eachother in their differences. She's a dreamer, he's a skeptic. She's religious, he's not. So they bring to the table the differences that allow them to both stay grounded. Or something to that effect.

Someone compared it to another old story.

Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on May 09, 2012, 07:14:52 PM
lolno.  That's, shall we say, not my division.

You don't like Noomi Rapace? :(

Green looks in those featurettes like he's been partying all night long... And then shot the featurette.

El scoripioo is readyyyyy

I wonder if the electronic music heard throughout the featurette is part of the soundtrack.

You can hear the similar style in the Creation featurette as well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=3B-Fz1pIxD0#t=101s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=3B-Fz1pIxD0#t=101s)
Music starts at 1:42

must...resist...commenting on....scientific BS...have to....enjoy....the movie...  :-X

Quote from: OpenMaw on May 09, 2012, 07:24:19 PM
You don't like Noomi Rapace? :(

She's a lovely girl.  Think broader.

Quote from: ucdom on May 09, 2012, 03:48:26 PM
Of course, I take your point, and I agree that it will be enjoyable no matter what. I do have to tell myself to relax when I see little inaccuracies though, especially when they would have been so easy to avoid. I personally do not believe that accuracy needs to be sacrificed to artistry - why else do people lap up real images of planets from space missions?

I would have loved to be a science consultant on this thing, or - *cough* - on any future projects....yeah? I mean I would do anything...
Anything
Like, who do I have to f*ck around here...?

I was niggled by an inaccuracy in Star Trek, where the Enterprise emerged from Titan's clouds to show Saturn with a great swathe of tilted rings in the background. Titan orbits in Saturn's equatorial plane - you'd only ever see the rings edge on. And their science consultant worked on the Cassini mission to Saturn !!!

;D ;D 8)

Quote from: Deuterium on Apr 26, 2012, 04:32:42 PM

Quote from: VickersAsh on Apr 26, 2012, 11:24:20 AM
amazing!!!

btw, did the ringed planet change positions?

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Good catch.  Two things are possible.*

1)  The FX team didn't do their homework (didn't hire me as a consultant), and they F@&Ked up.  ;D
As Prometheus appears to have landed on a moon which is in orbit around a massive, gas giant, it is almost certain that the moon would be tidally locked to the parent gas giant.  A tidally locked moon makes one revolution about it's axis in the same period as it makes one orbital revolution around it's partner planet.  That means, it always shows the same face to the gas giant.  This also means that the main "planet" will  appear fixed at the same point in the sky, for any given observer's location on the moon (presuming they are on the hemisphere which faces the planet, of course).  As an example, the Apollo astronauts would always see the Earth in a fixed, unchanging position in the sky.

This situation occurs with the Earth-Moon system, as well as the moons around Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune.  Pluto and Charon are approx. the same size, and they are mutually tidally locked.  Therefore, unless the Prometheus ship moved, and changed orientation, this could be an oversight/mistake on the part of the production team.

2)  Per my last point...it is possible that the Prometheus has moved position and orientation between these film sequences/clips.  I suppose it is even possible that they have left one moon, and moved on to another moon in the system.

*EDIT:  I may have been too hasty in my analysis.  Looking closer at the two pics, it does appear that the ringed planet remains "behind" the front of the Prometheus (with the Prometheus bow/cockpit facing the camera)...at least in these two pics.  The small change in the planet's relative position is simply a change in the perspective/view of the two shots of the Prometheus. [

Quote from: Deuterium on Apr 26, 2012, 04:56:14 PM

Quote from: LarsVader on Apr 26, 2012, 04:41:38 PM
A lot of shots that are in more than one trailer/featurette have flipped sides.
For example when Shaw jumps the gap.
And other things have been changed over time as we all know.

Well, I guess that would make a third possibility.  However, when the film is finished (in the can, so to speak), then possibility #1 holds, and the planet should stay in the same position in the sky, relative to the observer.  In other words, if we see the planet "behind" the front of the Prometheus at one point in the film (and assuming the Prometheus doesn't move), then we shouldn't see it on the opposite side, in some other shot.  For example, when we are viewing the crew convoy either approaching or moving away from the front of the Prometheus, then the planet should never appear "behind" the convoy, as that is the opposite part of the sky.

Also, the large angle/inclination of the planet's rings, as observed from the moon, makes for an aesthetically pleasing image...but not one that would be typical.  Even "artistic" paintings of Saturn, as hypothetically viewed from the surface of one of it's moons, typically show the rings at a significant angle.  However, this is not the case in reality.  In reality, on Saturn's natural moons, the rings would be almost invisible, since the moons orbit almost exactly along the same plane as Saturn's rings...and the rings are so incredibly "thin" when viewed edge-on.  The exception would be small, captured moons, which were not an original part of the Saturn-moon system.  Captured moons (typically very small in relation to the natural moons) can orbit at extreme angles in relation to the planet's rotational plane (and rings).

Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on May 09, 2012, 07:52:08 PM
She's a lovely girl.  Think broader.

Broader...

Ah! Team Fassbender, then?  ;) ;D

Something along those lines.

"Ofcourse what i want to do is scare the living shit out of you"

made my day

Quote from: szkoki on May 09, 2012, 08:40:12 PM
"Ofcourse what i want to do is scare the living shit out of you"

made my day

Same here, made me laugh out loud :D

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Quote from: Despicable Dugong on May 09, 2012, 06:44:48 PM
Holloway looks seriously like he's caught a serious case FUBAR in that new shot!

Why on earth would Shaw even consider banging him in that state?  ???

My girlfriend got horny on me in her work (at a university) after we had a fallout and she wanted to make out (don't read it as something more than just "make out", pervs! :P) in a staff room...Girls have sometimes uncontrollable and weird cravings. I can totally accept this Shaw-Holloway scenario as plausible.

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SPOILER! *seriously*

Spoiler

Man down!

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So Shaw rather have her answers and be dead... maybe the space jockey offers her the chance to give birth to god and she takes it?

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Clicky clicky!  :)

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SPOILER! *seriously*

Spoiler

Man down!

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Download link for the 1080p vid?

It seems to me that the fact they had to shot on the Iceland instead of the Morocco was win. The Iceland landscape has terrific cinematic qualities.. Like the early version of the Giger's Alien landscape. This will look magnificent in IMAX :) I hope for some looong shots.

Morocco would be like Lawrence of Arabia in space...

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Quote from: ucdom on May 09, 2012, 12:05:34 PMAstronomers already know of roughly Earth-sized planets, and I think it will be a matter of 10-20 years before we have seen real Earth analogues, where we can observe the signatures of water, oxygen, and maybe even life.

More like 2-3 years. :P

Quote from: wikipediaThe two stars are somewhat deficient in metals, having only 60% of the proportion of elements other than hydrogen and helium as compared to the Sun. For reasons that remain uncertain, they have an anomalously low abundance of beryllium. Both stars are considered unusual because they have a lower luminosity than is normal for main sequence stars of their age and surface temperature.

Sure sounds like someone is harvesting the stars power. Maybe a dyson spear? A similar idea is seen in the orerry.

Interesting. If it were a complete Dyson Sphere you'd expect only to see the star in the infrared. There are reasonable explanations for all the observations of the two zeta reticuli stars; in other words you don't need to resort to possible extra-terrestrial engineering. But I don't think it can be ruled out either....

It definitely would make for a good sci-fi story and that is what Prometheus has morphed into. It has gone form a story about space jockeys and xenomorphs to a "what if" all of that ancient astronaut bullshit is true. A what if idea working around feasibility. To me that is what a sci-fi movie is supposed to be about. I know it's a tight rope but it's similar to how the new star trek movie, aside from names and universe, was not a star trek movie at all. There was no real attempt to insert any "feasible" science fiction nor moral delima in it. I think Ridley is really trying to put the sci-fi back into science fiction movies. If that makes any sense?


Oh and xenomorph cameo.

Another ALIEN reference! beautiful ;)

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Quote from: LarsVader on May 09, 2012, 09:38:06 PM
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SPOILER! *seriously*

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Download link for the 1080p vid?

• http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2561706/POrigins.mp4 (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2561706/POrigins.mp4)

Wow, that featurette was excellent :D

Nice to catch the HD version just before bedtime  :)

A couple of (new) details
- that medpod is now smeared in blood stains on the inside - was it like this in previous clips?
- Janek is the one who gets to torch someone on the floor
- the jockey holograms seem to play out at various locations throughout the ship/temple - not just the control room

...and I'm mystified by LarsVaders pic of the jockey in the chair. In the new origins featurette, the hose between the helmet and the ribcage is shorter than it is in Vaders screenshot - it doesn't connect to the opening ribcage. But in the screenshot above it does... What kind of black magic is this...?  :D

Thats a cool TV Spot, the extra dialogue from Vickers was interesting.

Quote from: Eva on May 09, 2012, 10:41:30 PM
Nice to catch the HD version just before bedtime  :)

A couple of (new) details
- that medpod is now smeared in blood stains on the inside - was it like this in previous clips?
- Janek is the one who gets to torch someone on the floor
- the jockey holograms seem to play out at various locations throughout the ship/temple - not just the control room

...and I'm mystified by LarsVaders pic of the jockey in the chair. In the new origins featurette, the hose between the helmet and the ribcage is shorter than it is in Vaders screenshot - it doesn't connect to the opening ribcage. But in the screenshot above it does... What kind of black magic is this...?  :D

Post-production placeholder magic, I'll tell ya ;)

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Quote from: mastermoon on May 09, 2012, 10:44:08 PM
Thats a cool TV Spot, the extra dialogue from Vickers was interesting.

It is best to avoid those now, though. Come on, it's really not that far away - I mean for me 2 months and 10 days, but for the rest of you it's almost around the corner, especially for the UK folks.

Quote from: Salt The Fries on May 09, 2012, 10:45:07 PM
Post-production placeholder magic, I'll tell ya ;)

Oh, I get what the filmmakers/effects people did in post. What I don't get, is where LarsVader lifted that particular and very high-res shot? It's can't be from the featurette, unless Vader himself added the hose extension  ;)

Spoil me , spoil me more! It will not dampen my interest, it will empower it!

Quote from: Eva on May 09, 2012, 11:01:40 PM

Quote from: Salt The Fries on May 09, 2012, 10:45:07 PM
Post-production placeholder magic, I'll tell ya ;)

Oh, I get what the filmmakers/effects people did in post. What I don't get, is where LarsVader lifted that particular and very high-res shot? It's can't be from the featurette, unless Vader himself added the hose extension  ;)

Not to mention an additional tube by the shoulder/neck.  That's new.

Quote from: Eva on May 09, 2012, 10:41:30 PM
...and I'm mystified by LarsVaders pic of the jockey in the chair. In the new origins featurette, the hose between the helmet and the ribcage is shorter than it is in Vaders screenshot - it doesn't connect to the opening ribcage. But in the screenshot above it does... What kind of black magic is this...?  :D

In the first few frames it does connect.
And just before the ripcage opens half of it disconnects and retracts downwards.

But you cought me, I combined two frames  so there is no "ring" in front of the jockey.  :P

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Quote from: Eva on May 09, 2012, 10:41:30 PM
...and I'm mystified by LarsVaders pic of the jockey in the chair. In the new origins featurette, the hose between the helmet and the ribcage is shorter than it is in Vaders screenshot - it doesn't connect to the opening ribcage. But in the screenshot above it does... What kind of black magic is this...?  :D

In the first few frames it does connect.
And just before the ripcage opens half of it disconnects and retracts downwards.

But you cought me, I combined two frames  so there is no "ring" in front of the jockey.  :P

Thanx - you are right, indeed it does connect in the first few frames - I just didn't catch it.  ;)
Now there's also a smaller tube attached to the back of the helmet that retracts into the chair. Besides, the chair controls facing the helmet are now illuminated.

Anyone know if the origins video is on YouTube or anywhere else?

*Sigh* And there goes Logan Marshall-Green, tainting every shot he's featured in with his douchebag characterization and unconvincing delivery.  >:(

It'll certainly be interesting to see how many of the trailer shots we've come to know so well will be completely overhauled by the time the film reaches cinemas.

Quote from: Cvalda on May 10, 2012, 03:28:24 AM
*Sigh* And there goes Logan Marshall-Green, tainting every shot he's featured in with his douchebag characterization and unconvincing delivery.  >:(

On the bright side, he's being tortured by alien parasites and stuff, no?  ;D

Quote from: OpenMaw on May 10, 2012, 03:54:56 AM
On the bright side, he's being tortured by alien parasites and stuff, no?  ;D

Not enough, OpenMaw--not enough.

Miss Cvalda, is there an agenda that your not telling us about?

I don't know, that Green guy seems more in character in the featurette and less douchy. Especially when he's on his back.  Hey it's an improvement.  :laugh:

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"They're not if ya keep it scientific!"

It is as though Damon Lindelof transferred himself into the body of an American Apparel male model.
I'm afraid this annoying prick is going to drag the entire film down around him in every scene he's in.

You better not see it then..... ;)

'Dem rose-tinted glasses are so fetching on you, Bethesda ;D

Cvolloway.

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That's you until Prometheus comes out.

Hey, at least you finally learned how to spell the name right.

They're not rose tinted, they just lack judgment until I see the entire film. :)

Quote from: Cvolloway on May 10, 2012, 04:24:09 AM
Hey, at least you finally learned how to spell the name right.

Tell me about it, I was missing the "C" and "V" all along!  :o

Quote from: Space Sweeper on May 10, 2012, 04:27:06 AM
Tell me about it, I was missing the "C" and "V" all along!  :o

Be thankful you're safe up there in the frozen North.

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I kind of found, y'know, all the acting a little weak this time around.

Still, pretty colors!

Quote from: Cvalda on May 10, 2012, 04:31:27 AM

Quote from: Space Sweeper on May 10, 2012, 04:27:06 AM
Tell me about it, I was missing the "C" and "V" all along!  :o

Be thankful you're safe up there in the frozen North.

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Ummmmm... it's actually rainy spring weather up here, I can walk out in my plaid t-shirt. Heck I even helped with a bit of gardening a few days ago. Not so frozen.

Quote from: Crazy Rich on May 10, 2012, 04:36:37 AM
Ummmmm... it's actually rainy spring weather up here, I can walk out in my plaid t-shirt. Heck I even helped with a bit of gardening a few days ago. Not so frozen.

That's not the picture some very reliable stereotypes and misconceptions have painted. Who are you to go against them?

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Quote from: Crazy Rich on May 10, 2012, 04:36:37 AM
Ummmmm... it's actually rainy spring weather up here, I can walk out in my plaid t-shirt. Heck I even helped with a bit of gardening a few days ago. Not so frozen.

That's not the picture some very reliable stereotypes and misconceptions have painted. Who are you to go against them?

I'm Crazy Rich.

Quote from: Cvolloway on May 10, 2012, 04:31:27 AM

Quote from: Space Sweeper on May 10, 2012, 04:27:06 AM
Tell me about it, I was missing the "C" and "V" all along!  :o

Be thankful you're safe up there in the frozen North.

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It was actually quite a beautiful sunny, clear day here in Vancouver today.  :)

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Don't get me wrong, I hated Lost with a burning passion - I really, really, really did, before anyone else, in fact - but I find everyone involved with that abortion seems to work much better when they're only given a finite amount of script and less of a blank check (i.e., films or in Lindelof's past case, comics).  I really can't get onboard the knee-jerk hate train for him or Green, much less conflate the character into the writer.

Now, Holloway seems interesting enough for me in that, as I mentioned before, I wonder if he's been the dominant personality in the relationship with Shaw all along, and if she's been left in his wake up til now.  From what little we've seen, she demurrs and defers a bit; he's the driving ego, probably professionally.  Which is an interesting dynamic to play with, as is his arrogance.  It makes for good drama.  He's young, he's handsome, he's a bit of a slickster, he's in love - all apparently verboten in a geek-accredited tough-as-nails Alien movie, but we're not in Kansas anymore, we're in Prometheus.  Besides, he's totally going to get butchered anyway, and he'll probably at least partly deserve it.

Quote from: Cvalda on May 10, 2012, 04:08:16 AM
It is as though Damon Lindelof transferred himself into the body of an American Apparel male model.
I'm afraid this annoying prick is going to drag the entire film down around him in every scene he's in.

Maybe we just secretly envy him for getting to lock lips with Noomi?

Maybe?

Quote from: OpenMaw on May 10, 2012, 07:22:20 AM
Maybe we just secretly envy him for getting to lock lips with Noomi?

Maybe?

Have you seen LGM's lips? "Locking" ain't the word--more like saturation bombing. That poor woman.

Quote from: Cvalda on May 10, 2012, 07:28:50 AM

Quote from: OpenMaw on May 10, 2012, 07:22:20 AM
Maybe we just secretly envy him for getting to lock lips with Noomi?

Maybe?

Have you seen LGM's lips? "Locking" ain't the word--more like saturation bombing. That poor woman.

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Quote from: Cvalda on May 10, 2012, 07:28:50 AM
Have you seen LGM's lips? "Locking" ain't the word--more like saturation bombing. That poor woman.

My eyes have better things to do than study LMG's lips. Like Shaw, and Vickers. Victims of the stare. Oh yeah.  8)

...


Eva, do we need to have more words about creepy ass pictures?

;D

Quote from: OpenMaw on May 10, 2012, 07:37:35 AM
Eva, do we need to have more words about creepy ass pictures?
;D

Sorry, but you must be mistaking me for DoomRulz  ;)

Did someone managed to rip the 3 minute video? i can't do it with any of the firefox add-ons i have

Pretty sure Ikarop left a download link for the HD version somewhere - that's the version I've got anyway

Quote from: zuzuki on May 10, 2012, 07:51:06 AM
Did someone managed to rip the 3 minute video? i can't do it with any of the firefox add-ons i have

Try:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2561706/POrigins.mp4 (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2561706/POrigins.mp4)

Quote from: Eva on May 10, 2012, 07:55:15 AM
Pretty sure Ikarop left a download link for the HD version somewhere - that's the version I've got anyway

That's for an alternate shorter version. Original version in first post is longer and features more LGM douchiness.

Quote from: Cvalda on May 10, 2012, 07:56:48 AM

Quote from: Eva on May 10, 2012, 07:55:15 AM
Pretty sure Ikarop left a download link for the HD version somewhere - that's the version I've got anyway

That's for an alternate shorter version. Original version in first post is longer and features more LGM douchiness.

Ahh...

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... and now move your ass over here and paint my nails, Eva!  :-\ ;)

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Quote from: Cvalda on May 10, 2012, 07:56:48 AM

Quote from: Eva on May 10, 2012, 07:55:15 AM
Pretty sure Ikarop left a download link for the HD version somewhere - that's the version I've got anyway

That's for an alternate shorter version. Original version in first post is longer and features more LGM douchiness.

You seem to have that guy , don't you ?
Thus you should be happy that the character will suffer a lot  ;D

Quote from: timiteh on May 10, 2012, 08:00:03 AM

Quote from: Cvalda on May 10, 2012, 07:56:48 AM

Quote from: Eva on May 10, 2012, 07:55:15 AM
Pretty sure Ikarop left a download link for the HD version somewhere - that's the version I've got anyway

That's for an alternate shorter version. Original version in first post is longer and features more LGM douchiness.

You seem to have that guy , don't you ?
Thus you should be happy that the character will suffer a lot  ;D

It appears Cvalda has a love/hate relationship with LMG...

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... without the love part  :P

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Quote from: Eva on May 10, 2012, 08:02:30 AM
It appears Cvalda has a love/hate relationship with LMG...

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... without the love part  :P

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Spoiler

That's cuz it's all saved for yoooouuu ;D :P

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Quote from: Cvalda on May 10, 2012, 08:05:55 AM

Quote from: Eva on May 10, 2012, 08:02:30 AM
It appears Cvalda has a love/hate relationship with LMG...

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... without the love part  :P

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That's cuz it's all saved for yoooouuu ;D :P

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;D

Quote from: Cvalda on May 10, 2012, 08:11:39 AM
;D

Watch out everybody... I'm going to blow Cvaldas mind now  ;)

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Quote from: Eva on May 10, 2012, 08:15:26 AM

Quote from: Cvalda on May 10, 2012, 08:11:39 AM
;D

Watch out everybody... I'm going to blow Cvaldas mind now  ;)

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:laugh: Awesome!!!

Quote from: Vickers on May 10, 2012, 08:16:43 AM
:laugh: Awesome!!!

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I've said it before, I'll say it again--there needs to be a Winona Ryder posing with and/or clinging to other female celebrities thread.

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:laugh:

Quote from: Vickers on May 10, 2012, 08:19:54 AM
http://i45.tinypic.com/34zdq3l.jpg

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Quote from: Cvalda on May 10, 2012, 08:18:04 AM
I've said it before, I'll say it again--there needs to be a Winona Ryder posing with and/or clinging to other female celebrities thread.

Yeah... if only I could think of an obvious member of these forums to make such a thread... who could it be...? hmmm  :D

PS: I'd saved that pic for a special occasion, but I just couldn't resist anymore  ;D

Quote from: Eva on May 10, 2012, 08:23:20 AM
PS: I'd saved that pic for a special occasion, but I just couldn't resist anymore  ;D

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You should see the one I've got saved ;D

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Quote from: Cvalda on May 10, 2012, 08:22:19 AM
:laugh:

Quote from: Vickers on May 10, 2012, 08:19:54 AM
http://i45.tinypic.com/34zdq3l.jpg

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:laugh:!

Quote from: Cvalda on May 10, 2012, 08:25:09 AM

Quote from: Eva on May 10, 2012, 08:23:20 AM
PS: I'd saved that pic for a special occasion, but I just couldn't resist anymore  ;D

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You should see the one I've got saved ;D

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Can't... wait...!  :o :( :-\ :'( :P
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Quote from: Eva on May 10, 2012, 07:55:15 AM
Pretty sure Ikarop left a download link for the HD version somewhere - that's the version I've got anyway

nope it's the short version. need the long one. can't seem to make it play properly on the yahoo site

Quote from: Eva on May 10, 2012, 08:15:26 AM

Quote from: Cvalda on May 10, 2012, 08:11:39 AM
;D

Watch out everybody... I'm going to blow Cvaldas mind now  ;)

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Why you got a dollar sign tattooed on your forearm?

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Quote from: Salt The Fries on May 09, 2012, 09:33:16 PM
My girlfriend got horny on me in her work (at a university) after we had a fallout and she wanted to make out (don't read it as something more than just "make out", pervs! :P) in a staff room...Girls have sometimes uncontrollable and weird cravings. I can totally accept this Shaw-Holloway scenario as plausible.

Would she still bang you if she knew you had a bad dose of the space herpes? I think not!  :o  ;D

I really want the 3 minute featurette in beautiful 1080. :(

LMG is absolutely beautiful.....and he has an identical twin brother as well.

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Quote from: LarsVader on May 09, 2012, 09:38:06 PM
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SPOILER! *seriously*

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Man down!

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Download link for the 1080p vid?

• http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2561706/POrigins.mp4 (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2561706/POrigins.mp4)

Wonderful stuff............except boy does LM Green seem progressively more and more dreadful with each additional 3 second snippet of him we're shown (the snippets where he has to talk.......and try and act).............God he really is appalling !!!!!

Its staggering to me that he got this part, especially since he seems so completely unbelievable as any sort of 'scientist'

"Its staggering to me that he got this part, especially since he seems so completely unbelievable as any sort of 'scientist'"

Well, speaking as a scientist, I can tell you that there are plenty of cocky w*nkers, although I have to admit I don't know how some of them still are scientists.
There are arseholes in every trade.

I'm okay with LMG myself, I don't see anything wrong with his acting (bearing in mind we don't know very much at all about his character or his story arc - from the few moments of the 2 hr film we've seen!)
He is very fit though...

it smells like there are no bad or good guys in this movie but everyone is driven by his own agenda

Quote from: szkoki on May 10, 2012, 01:01:24 PM
it smells like there are no bad or good guys in this movie but everyone is driven by his own agenda

I don't think everyone has his own agenda, except who knows Vickers and possibly Weyland. I would be glad if we didn't get the traditional stereotypes in the movies: bad guys, good guys, egoistical types and so on. If they are a crew of scientist and explorers i expect all of them to behave like a team and have only one common goal in the end just like in real life. I don't want them to fight each other for their own selfish reasons, i want them to  be killed  by whatever creature this movie has in a non-discriminatory fashion. From what i've seen so far i like that at least half of the crew survives into the second act. In a traditional horror movie we would see them killed one by one during the duration of the movie.

LMG is a homage to Hudson... I think. Although I thought he improved in the featurette. They fixed that Vaseline look he was sporting in earlier trailers.

Quote from: zuzuki on May 10, 2012, 01:37:24 PM
From what i've seen so far i like that at least half of the crew survives into the second act. In a traditional horror movie we would see them killed one by one during the duration of the movie.

I think the surviving half of the crew will all die horribly in the last 8 minutes.

Quote from: whiterabbit on May 10, 2012, 01:47:41 PM
LMG is a homage to Hudson... I think.

Gordon Jackson?

Quote from: Eva on May 10, 2012, 07:40:09 AM
Sorry, but you must be mistaking me for DoomRulz  ;)

Haha. No!

http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=43370.msg1357189#msg1357189 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=43370.msg1357189#msg1357189)

Right there. I warned you.



One thing I do find very interesting is that LMG's eyes seem to get better once they're back on the ship. Well, aside from the eye worm thing, but I mean, they look "normal." So maybe shaw and he have their moment together thinking he's all better? Maybe?

eh.

Quote from: Gash on May 10, 2012, 04:28:32 PM

Quote from: whiterabbit on May 10, 2012, 01:47:41 PM
LMG is a homage to Hudson... I think.

Gordon Jackson?

Now I want to see a trailer mash-up with Upstairs Downstairs....

Great Feature!

hmmm.. interesting name of that planet huh...

LV-233 i think.. could be 426 but its hard to tell..

LV-223.

Just an interesting theory I had after watching the clip. The saucer ship is taking off it looks like. Is it possible the blue guy was banished to earth and he created those carvings for a way to find his way home or something?

Man, is it just me or does it seems like everyone involved making this movie seem to be really into the Ancient Astronaut thesis? It kind of puts a bad taste in my mouth. I hope the movie won't turn up to be some Von Däniken propaganda film.

Really hoping that Scott has a few delicious surprises in his bag that will topsy turvy everything and open up another can of endless and unanswered questions.

I really don't see what the problem is.  Everyone knew years ago Von Daniken's actual writings were a load of tosh, but back then and still today it makes for great speculative fiction.  Who cares?

I don't know. Maybe I react this way because it is too close to home; I have a few old friends who are into all kinds of conspiracy theories and who are pretty much religious nut bags when it comes to that Ancient Astronaut crap. I find it embarrassing, especially since they are grown men with kids and all.

But you're right, as fiction Ancient Astronaut ideas really work well. So many games, movies, comics and novels have built their stories around the idea that we are not from here _or_ that we are the way we are because of extraterrestrial interference.

now available in 1080p !!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXHC_HOg7FA#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXHC_HOg7FA#ws)

Quote from: Cvalda on May 10, 2012, 04:31:27 AM

Quote from: Space Sweeper on May 10, 2012, 04:27:06 AM
Tell me about it, I was missing the "C" and "V" all along!  :o

Be thankful you're safe up there in the frozen North.

Spoiler

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This is off topic but are you and Eva like together? lol if so I would feel alot better not being the only errrmmm open "alternative" lifestyle person here.

Kirkland...I'm a gay...have no fear sir...we can sashay down the street and then shontay into the mall together. :)

Yup - fellow gayboy here!

Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on May 17, 2012, 03:43:12 PM
Kirkland...I'm a gay...have no fear sir...we can sashay down the street and then shontay into the mall together. :)

hahaha i'll join you

Silly boys....I think David 8 if he has the proper programming, has the potential to know and maybe feel "love". I mean it would be a reach but I would be very impressed if David turns out to be indiscriminate in terms of catering to male and female lovers. Ridley had replicant prostitutes in Blade Runner so it wouldn't be that much of a curveball..

Quote from: VickersAsh on May 17, 2012, 03:57:09 PM

Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on May 17, 2012, 03:43:12 PM
Kirkland...I'm a gay...have no fear sir...we can sashay down the street and then shontay into the mall together. :)

hahaha i'll join you

Me too. The thing is, whenever I mention sci-fi to any of my friends, their eyes generally glaze over and they try and change the subject to Gaga or Kylie  ::)

Off topic: I'm gay too. ;) There's a couple of us scattered around here and, for the most part, everyone is really cool about it.  I mean I haven't personally been mistreated by anybody on the forum or had a run in with any ignorant folks.

Quote from: Vickers on May 17, 2012, 08:12:44 PM
I mean I haven't personally been mistreated by anybody on the forum or had a run in with any ignorant folks.

That's good to hear. Just remember to keep this handy for close encounters ;) :P:

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not gay but i'm living in walt disney world with 3 gay roommates, none of them have any interest in scifi/horror XD

Quote from: Byohzrd on May 17, 2012, 08:34:03 PM
not gay but i'm living in walt disney world with 3 gay roommates, none of them have any interest in scifi/horror XD

Literally? :P

Quote from: Cvalda on May 17, 2012, 08:33:24 PM

Quote from: Vickers on May 17, 2012, 08:12:44 PM
I mean I haven't personally been mistreated by anybody on the forum or had a run in with any ignorant folks.

That's good to hear. Just remember to keep this handy for close encounters ;) :P:

http://i.imgur.com/1e70j.gif

:laugh: I'm still on a buzz, re: the GIF. ;)

Its nice to see us gays represented so well here! I wish some of lived in the same town...I need some peeps to go see the film with in a coupla weeks.

Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on May 17, 2012, 09:02:47 PM
Its nice to see us gays represented so well here! I wish some of lived in the same town...I need some peeps to go see the film with in a coupla weeks.

I hear you.  None of my friends are really clued up on Prometheus.  There's one who said he would like to see it because it looks cool but he doesn't really know what's up, if you get what I'm saying.  He's not really a big fan of Alien but he likes films like Transformers and he'll probably think Battleship is going to be cool too. :P

The double edged sword of forum-ing: all the really cool people you meet, you will never really meet. :(

Quote from: Cvalda on May 17, 2012, 09:08:56 PM
The double edged sword of forum-ing: all the really cool people you meet, you will never really meet. :(

:( I would like to think that I will meet at least a few of the cool people from here someday.  But financially speaking, I don't see this happening anytime soon.